This week we are listening to a class by Bro. James Robinson entitled “He is not here, He is Risen” that was given at the Book Road Ecclesia in 2008.
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Welcome to good for selfie and
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I’m Levi and I’m Chris and I’m
Brian, thank you for joining us
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Hand to kind of set the stage
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You’re about to listen to and
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Hello.
My name is Justin and I’ll be
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your host for this week and the
following week.
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For this class.
I’ve chosen a talk by James
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Robinson, this class made a
fairly significant impact on me
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several years ago and I really
wanted to share it with
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everyone.
This talk gets back to the
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basics and tries to prove the
death but more importantly the
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resurrection of Jesus a backbone
of our faith.
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So now, we’ll turn it over to
James.
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Good evening, brothers and
sisters.
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I’m glad to see you all here
tonight because our subject
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tonight is he is not here.
He has risen.
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And hopefully it’ll be a very
interesting subject for you.
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All I greatly enjoyed
researching it, the subject for
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tonight officially is he is not
here.
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He has risen, that’ll probably
be the subject on whatever board
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we have outside.
If we have a board outside at
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the moment, if we don’t, that’s
the official title.
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But what you’re going to be
here, Tonight is more simply
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stated as proof that Jesus
Christ rose from the dead.
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What I’m going to try and do in
this talk is go through and get
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evidence for why we can believe
that.
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Jesus Christ, honestly did rise
from the dead and the start off.
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I’ll explain why this is
important because Jesus Christ
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rising from the dead is the
foundation of Christianity.
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You’ll notice I have a quote up
there.
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First Corinthians 15, this is
from the Apostle Paul.
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All a Christian writing to other
Christians and he says, if
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Christ has not been raised, our
preaching is useless and so is
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your faith, obviously Paul
thought the resurrection was
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pretty important that quote, by
the way, is from The New
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International Version.
All quotations tonight on my
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slides and that I will be
reading our from The New
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International Version for the
simple reason that it’s very
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easy to understand and tonight I
want to make sure that what I’m
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saying is easy to understand
because it should be Easy to
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understand that we have a firm
and good reason to believe that
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Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
Now, as for why this is
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important, Jesus Christ himself,
claimed that he rose from the
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dead.
The reference I have up there.
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Matthew 17, 22 to 23 is pretty
much the same as what we already
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read earlier in Luke 24, Jesus
claimed that he was going to be
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betrayed and killed and Rise.
Again, the third day, this is
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what he said.
If Jesus said this, and it
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didn’t happen, then he is a
liar.
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And therefore, it is hugely
important whether or not He rose
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from the dead identically, his
disciples afterwards, all
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claimed that he rose from the
dead Acts 2 and 32 it’s only one
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reference among many in the New
Testament all claiming the same
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thing that Jesus rose from the
day.
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If he didn’t rise from the dead,
then all his disciples are liars
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to and the entire Christian
faith is founded on a lie.
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If that is the case, then I
might as well not be speaking up
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here.
That’s why our subject tonight.
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Is that the resurrection He did
actually happen because if it
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didn’t actually happen, none of
us needs to be here tonight.
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Finally, there’s one other
important Point.
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Christianity has a lot of things
that are important to it and
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tonight I’m not going to talk
about everything that
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Christianity deals with.
Well one thing that you have to
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understand is Christianity is
based on Jesus Christ as a
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living, savior, if Jesus Christ
is dead in a tomb right now or
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moldering in the ground
someplace, then Christianity is
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useless because Does not have a
savior.
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It’s savior is dead and there is
no.
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Hope you can put in somebody who
is dead.
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But tonight we’re going to get
into if he was resurrected and
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if he was resurrected, that
means some things as well.
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First of all, it means that when
Jesus made the claim that he was
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going to die and be resurrected
and it actually happened.
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That’s pretty astounding.
You can go talk to any
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Undertaker and they will not
tell you that their corpses that
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they’re dealing with rise from
the dead.
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This is not a common occurrence,
this is something we call a
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miracle.
And if he is able to accurately
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predict a miraculous occurrence,
then we might want to believe
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the other things that he said,
identical case for his disciples
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if they’re all saying, something
totally astounding happen and it
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actually did happen.
Then we might have reason to
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believe the other things they
say.
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And they said some other pretty
fascinating things, one of them
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is quoted on the screen there
for the son of man is going to
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come in his father’s Glory with
his angels and then he Reward
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each person according to what he
has done.
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That’s a pretty scary prediction
that Christ is going to come and
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judge the world.
And so if they were right about
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that, maybe we need to lend some
Credence to the other things
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they said and that’s going to be
a scary proposition.
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So again our subject is
important did Jesus rise from
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the dead or didn’t?
That’s what I’m going to try and
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prove to you tonight.
Now proof is an interesting
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thing, how do we prove
something?
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Especially something quite so
amazing as a person rising from
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the dead.
It is not hard to prove to you
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tonight that gravity exists
here.
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I have a book, I drop the book
if falls down that has proven to
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you that gravity exists.
But proving a resurrection from
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the dead.
It’s not quite so easy because
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dead people do not normally come
back to life books.
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Normally fall when we drop them
dead, people do not normally
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come back to life.
It’s called a And to prove a
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miracle is difficult, in fact,
on someone back in the 1700s
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called David Hume, who was an
atheist, wrote a whole book on
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the subject and one of the
things he said, which I thought
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was quite wise, was that no
testimony is sufficient to
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establish a miracle unless the
testimony of you have such kind
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that it’s falsehood, would be
more miraculous than the fact,
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which it Endeavors to establish.
In other words, if we want to
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believe that something.
Thing happened which seems
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totally impossible.
That the only way we can do that
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reasonably, is to believe that
it would be totally impossible
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for it not to happen.
In other words, if we can
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discount everything else and say
that couldn’t have happened then
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we might believe in a miracle.
Otherwise why would you believe
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that someone Rose from the day?
It doesn’t normally happen.
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It’s not a recurring fact, we
can’t go and make someone else
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rise from the dead.
So if we Prove that we need to
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prove it by showing that nothing
else works.
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And so tonight I’m going to make
two claims I’m going to claim
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first of all, that it is a
reasonable proposition that the
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Jesus Christ was resurrected
from the day that this is a
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reasonable explanation of the
facts.
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And secondly, I am going to
claim that there is no other
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reasonable explanation of the
facts.
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You’ll notice extensive use of
the word reasonable in that.
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The reason for that is that That
in a court of law.
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When we’re trying to convict
someone in a criminal court, the
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burden of proof that Slade on
the prosecution is that they
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have to prove.
He is guilty of beyond all
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Reasonable Doubt.
Obviously, there are some people
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tonight who are going to be able
to doubt me, no matter what I
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say.
But I want to be able to prove
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to you beyond all reasonable
doubt that Jesus Christ, rose
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from the dead.
And that’s what we’re working on
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tonight.
We’re not dealing with are
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reasonable facts.
We’re dealing with reasonable
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facts that you should be able to
reasonably Understand.
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So let’s start off with some
documentary evidence.
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We read Luke 24 tonight which is
a documentary account that
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claims that Jesus Christ rose
from the dead.
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Here is a few other ones.
In fact in the Bible we have
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four different accounts that all
claim.
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The same thing that Jesus Christ
is risen from the dead.
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You see short excerpts from the
mall up on the slide tonight.
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I’m not going to go through and
read each one but they all say
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about the same thing and I asked
you if you don’t believe me to
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read it because they all say
about the same thing that this
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man rose from the dead.
And the interesting thing about
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this is it’s not a single
witness.
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We have four different
Witnesses, two of them.
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Matthew and John were
eyewitnesses of these events.
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Mark was not an eyewitness.
He was writing based on the
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testimony of another eyewitness
which was Peter and Luke does
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not claim via night witness.
His was a compilation but all
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These people were writing at
about the same time and all
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claim that this happened, that
should give us an inkling that
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maybe something happened.
It doesn’t prove that it did
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happen because we’re not going
to look at these people tonight
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as inspired by God.
That’s the position of the
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christadelphians.
But if their writings inspired
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by God, I might as well, not be
talking tonight, anyway, because
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the case is already proven.
If it’s inspired then we believe
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it in.
That’s it.
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We’re not going to do that
tonight.
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I’m going to assume that these
are historical documents, but
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I’m not going to say Assume that
they’re inspired by God, because
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if they’re inspired by God we
have a circular argument.
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And my case is already over,
we’re going to assume though
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that they are historical
testimony and we have good
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reason to assume that.
Well there’s more documentary
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evidence.
We’re going to skip that for
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right now though we’re going to
let us look at the veracity of
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these documents.
First of all, when were they re
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if Mark had written his gospel?
500 years.
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After the events happened, we
might have reason to doubt him,
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but that’s not the case.
You see up here, what I found as
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scholarly opinion by those
Scholars, who actually have
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reason to believe that these
authors were not lying, if you
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believe that the authors were
lying, you get a bunch of dates
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after 80 70.
But based on what they actually
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wrote, the dates are usually in
this range 80/50, 27, which puts
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you at most 40 years after the
events in cave question, You’re
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not accounts by people long
after the events are past.
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These are people who claim to be
island us’, and wrote a time
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period where they could be
eyewitnesses.
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Secondly, it’s often a question
of who actually wrote These
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gospels.
However, based on my research
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again tonight, I’m not going to
give you a documentary, go over
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of everything to do with textual
analysis of the gospels.
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What I will say, though, if the
authorship was not questioned
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for any of these for the next
500 years, Years.
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And so everyone in those time
periods and we have lots of
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documents says, Mark, wrote
Mark, Matthew wrote, Matthew,
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John wrote, John, and if so we
had good reason to believe that
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that’s the case.
These people wrote those books
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and honestly, believed what they
wrote, we have these books,
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that’s what they say.
And just as a bit of comparison
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Duke, can we trust these books
written 2000 years ago, actually
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got to us in a reasonable
condition.
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So Up here we have a brief
comparison of the textual
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attestation of the New Testament
versus some other contemporary
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documents.
For example, we’ve got Julius
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Caesar, you might have heard of
him.
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He was a Roman general who wrote
some rather long accounts, in
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Latin about his conquest of the
gaulish nation.
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And these have been used as
basic Latin texts.
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If you’re taking Latin for a
long time, The written up in the
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history books.
However, as for manuscripts we
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only actually have 10 different
manuscripts, ancient
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manuscripts, and not like modern
copies of these events and the
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new like the oldest one.
As in the closest When It Was
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Written, is it Thousand Years
afterwards?
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We’re not saying that it was
written a thousand years
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afterwards.
We’re saying that it was copied
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and recopied and we copied and
the newest copy.
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We have is a thousand years
after it was originally written.
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So It’s been lots of time for
errors to creep it and yet we we
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trust that Caesar conquered the
Gauls.
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We have a bunch of other authors
here.
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The last one you’ll notice is
the New Testament and the thing
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is for the New Testament, it’s
almost embarrassing.
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Just how much evidence we have
that.
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The New Testament was written
and just how much material we
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have to go through it.
And figure out whether or not,
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this is a textual Lee accurate
document to what was originally
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written.
You’ll notice that the Of
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manuscripts.
We have is two orders of
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magnitude higher than the
closest contemporary manuscript
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closest contemporary document,
which is Homer’s The Iliad You
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also notice that the time span
we have is a lot closer.
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We have a fragment from the
Gospel of John, that’s identical
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to what we currently have.
That was just covered in Egypt
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that data to 8125, or give or
take one or two years.
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And that’s not much more than 25
years after it was originally
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written.
Now, if you want a complete set,
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you have to go to about.
Yeah, the third Century ad again
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that totally beats Homer’s.
The Iliad in how close we have a
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copy to when it was originally
written, these documents have
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been well preserved.
And there’s a quote that I like
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to read you, that was from the
conclusion of an article.
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I read on a text to authenticity
of the New Testament.
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And it’s like this simply put.
If we reject the authenticity,
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Of the New Testament on textual
grounds.
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We’d have to reject every
ancient worked event equity and
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declare, null and void.
Every piece of historical
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information from written sources
prior to the beginning of the
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second Millennium 80.
In other words, if we throw out
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the New Testament because we
can’t trust the text, we have to
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throw out a whole lot of other
stuff because the New Testament
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is on much better grounds than
most of our knowledge of the
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ancient world.
These are not documents that you
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can discount simply because
they’re old.
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Second, we have a lot of old
documents.
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We have a lot of new documents
that people don’t believe
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because they’re not believable.
We have fairy tales of say
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Rapunzel, nobody, no scholar
that I know of reputably
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believes that Rapunzel was an
actual person with eight foot
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hair that had a prince climb up.
There’s a question of are these
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were liable documents And for
that matter, you have to analyze
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the document.
There have been some excellent
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books written on this.
The one I’d like to point out to
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you, is this one by Frank
Morrison called who moved the
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stone?
The introduction of that book is
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definitely worth reading because
he starts off talking about how
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he intended to write a book to
discover, who the real Jesus was
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after sifting through all the
evidence and finding out where
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there was just the made up stuff
and where the real Jesus shown
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Through any.
So we are going to read through
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the Book of Mark.
Look through the last seven days
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of Jesus life and find out what
was true and what wasn’t true
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and he intended to prove that
Jesus did not actually rise from
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the dead.
He ended up becoming a Christian
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and his book who moved the stone
is not a proof that Jesus did
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not rise from the dead, but a
proof that he did rise from the
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dead.
Now, Frank Morrison was a lawyer
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who did this and he didn’t know
about it at the time he was
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writing who Moved Stone but
going through and examining the
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evidence of each of the
different Witnesses and cross
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examining them.
And looking at it from a legal
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perspective was not new.
In fact, Simon Greenlee a
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professor from a little-known
university in the It’s called
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Harvard.
I had done it a little bit
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earlier, back in the 1700s.
It’s called the testimony of the
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evangelists and it did the same
thing.
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It went through each of the
different gospels and use the
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principles of law to go through
and figure out were these
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testimonies accurate?
Did it have a case now?
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I’m not a lawyer.
Yeah.
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So if you want to truly get a
legal perspective on these
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things, So you’re going to have
to read those books but they’re
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worth looking at and I found
them very convincing.
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As well.
There’s a whole lot of things in
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the record itself that are
convinced.
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I’m only going to pull out some
of them because I don’t have all
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night tonight.
But this is one that I found
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particularly interesting in the
Gospel of John, John records.
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But when they came to Jesus and
found that he was already dead,
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they did not break his legs.
Instead, one of the soldiers
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pierced Jesus side with a spear
bringing, a sudden flow of blood
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and water.
And why was this recorded?
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Its recorded because it’s weird
that if you pierce someone
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outcomes, both blood and water.
This is not a normal event, but
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that’s the sort of thing that
makes it seem that if it
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actually truly happened, it
would mean that this witness was
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telling the truth.
So once upon a time, back in
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about the 1700s again, there was
a physiologist at the University
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of Dublin who decided to run
some tests on animals.
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So key and he was also a
physiologist.
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So we’ve seen a lot with humans.
So what he did was, he pierced,
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lots of left signs with large
knives comparable in size with
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the Romans fear, and he found
that there were five distinct
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cases that could happen.
First of all, sometimes he got a
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flow with nothing if he got
nothing at all except some
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slight trickling up blood.
So then lie, sometimes he got a
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whole lot of blood and then
nothing else.
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Sometimes though he got a flow
of water and then a few drops of
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blood.
Now based on these conclusions,
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he could tell based on what
happened, how the thing died.
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This is going to use some
medical terminology for example,
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of these three cases.
The first is that what usually
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occurs as in on a normal death?
You get just a small trickle of
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blood.
Second is found in cases of
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death by drowning and by strict
Nia may be demonstrated by
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destroying an animal with that
poison and it can be proved to
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be the natural case of a
crucified person.
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The third is found in cases of
death from pleurisy pericarditis
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and rupture of the heart.
I’m not a doctor.
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He’s a doctor, you can have to
depend on him or look up these
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terms to find out exactly what
they mean.
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His point though is that these,
he came up with two following
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cases that aren’t normal.
These two cup following cases
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were a copious flow of water.
Succeeded by a, copious flow of
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blood or a copious flow of blood
succeeded by copious flow of
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water.
He determined that these would
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only occur in a crucified person
who had previously separate from
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pleuritic effusion, or from a
crucified person who had died
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upon the cross from rupture of
the heart.
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In other words, this is a very
rare condition.
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That’s not going to happen.
Except if you’re crucified and
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your heart first and that’s what
John saw.
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Which is really interesting.
It’s a strong case.
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That what he saw was something
that actually happened.
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That this is an eyewitness who
saw a very novel circumstance
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that he wrote down to.
The next verse is him going, I
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actually do believe this and
this is what I saw and he wrote
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it down and now we can look at
it and go, this is the only case
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where it would happen.
He saw something amazing and it
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happened and we can look at it
and say, this is an eyewitness.
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Approach that’s cool.
It doesn’t prove it but it’s a
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very strong Mark of internal
consistency.
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That these are eyewitnesses who
are watching what was happening
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and telling us, there’s another
very strong point though and
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that is the empty too.
The quotes up on the screen are
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kind of long, but they basically
explain what the Tomb of Jesus
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was like.
It had a large Stone in front of
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it and it was sealed by the
Romans and it had a garden front
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of it.
This is all a time when the body
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was assumed to be there.
But then we read in the record
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that the body was not found in
this tomb.
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In fact, the body was not found
anywhere.
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This is an amazing thing.
Usually bodies don’t disappear
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in a criminal investigation.
In fact, a large portion of time
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is spent looking for the body
because if you can’t find a
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body, it’s hard to establish
whether or not the person
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actually died.
And bodies don’t usually just
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disappear.
But that seems to have been the
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case here, because even the very
enemies who did not believe that
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Jesus was resurrected claimed
that the body wasn’t there.
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You’ll notice in that quote,
when the chief priests had met
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with the elders and devised a
plan, they gave the soldiers.
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Those are the ones who are
guarding the tomb, a large sum
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of my many telling them, you
already say his disciples came
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during the night and stole him
away while we were asleep.
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What that means is that the very
people who did not believe in
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the resurrection, could not
explain where the body had gone,
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they had to lie and say that the
disciples had stolen the body.
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In other words, there was nobody
that they could find that is
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very strong evidence that Jesus
was resurrected from the dead
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because if he was resurrected,
then there would be no dead body
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to find.
But if he was not resurrected,
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then you would expect to find a
body somewhere.
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You would not expect an empty
too.
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And you’ll notice that
throughout the record
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afterwards, there is no
production of the body of Jesus.
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There was no attempt to say that
Jesus actually was dead.
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When they’re persecuting the
disciples afterwards, they put
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them in jail.
They get mad at them, but they
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don’t say, here’s the body of
Jesus.
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See, he’s dead, he’s dead.
They can’t do that because they
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don’t have a body of Jesus to
produce.
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They had to say that.
The disciples had stolen him
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because they couldn’t find this
body.
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That’s powerful.
Finally, the reason I’m saying
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this today is because I am a
Christian.
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I am Christian in a religion
that is based on Jesus Christ.
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And Christianity is currently a
religion of 1.5 to 2 point 1
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billion people nowadays, that
means it had to come from
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somewhere.
In fact, it was established as
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the official religion of the
Roman Empire 380 ad, And it
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emerged just about the time that
Jesus was said to have died and
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been resurrected.
Large religions, don’t come from
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nowhere and that’s a large Point
as well.
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Any explanation for this death
and resurrection of Jesus?
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Any explanation for why we have
different Witnesses writing
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around the time period saying
that this man was resurrected
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has to also be able to explain
where Christianity came from.
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If Jesus was not actually
resurrected, how did a religion
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get started about?
Where did it come from?
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And another important point
Remember that body that body,
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that, no one could find
Christians are not lacking in
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veneration of holy artifacts.
If you go throughout Europe, you
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will find lots of pieces of the
True Cross or pieces of nails
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from the cross or Allah, or
worship of statues.
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If you go to the Holy Land,
you’ll find out that this is
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where Jesus walked, and this is
where his tomb was etcetera, but
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there is nowhere, where it’s
this was where Jesus is buried.
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There is no.
This is where his body was.
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There’s a tomb that they’ll say,
this is where he’s buried, but
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it’s an empty tomb in Jerusalem.
If Jesus actually died and left
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a body, you’d expect for all
this big religion, based around
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him to venerate it, and it’s not
there.
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There’s no body of Jesus.
That’s venerated by Christians.
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It’s unanimously.
Taught that he rose from the
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dead and there is nobody, that’s
strong.
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That means that we have this
large religion here.
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That believes that someone rose
from the dead and has no
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evidence against it themselves.
Okay, that’s not so strange.
436
00:25:42,200 –> 00:25:44,600
But we have to explain where
Christianity came from.
437
00:25:45,000 –> 00:25:47,500
So, as a general conclusion to
the first part of my lecture
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00:25:47,500 –> 00:25:51,300
tonight, Christianity,
definitely exists, nowadays,
439
00:25:51,900 –> 00:25:55,800
documents from the time period
when it was formed say that it
440
00:25:55,800 –> 00:25:57,900
started with the resurrection of
Jesus Christ.
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00:25:58,200 –> 00:26:01,700
Christianity cannot exist
without the resurrection of
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00:26:01,700 –> 00:26:03,900
Jesus Christ.
And in that Christianity, as a
443
00:26:03,900 –> 00:26:08,700
religion is useless without it,
the documents we have our
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00:26:08,700 –> 00:26:11,300
original and internally
consistent.
445
00:26:12,400 –> 00:26:16,100
And for all these things, I say
that it is reasonable to assume
446
00:26:16,100 –> 00:26:19,900
that if a man actually was
resurrected, it is reasonable to
447
00:26:19,900 –> 00:26:22,600
assume that documents of the
time period would say he was
448
00:26:22,600 –> 00:26:26,100
resurrected, it is reasonable to
assume that those people who are
449
00:26:26,100 –> 00:26:29,000
affected by a miracle like that
would go around and preach.
450
00:26:29,000 –> 00:26:32,400
It is reasonable to assume that
a man who claimed something as
451
00:26:32,600 –> 00:26:36,700
Miraculous as his own death and
Resurrection, could convince
452
00:26:36,700 –> 00:26:40,600
people to go and spread a
religion in his name that seems
453
00:26:40,600 –> 00:26:43,800
reasonable to assume if he
actually was resurrected.
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00:26:46,300 –> 00:26:48,400
But that doesn’t mean other
people haven’t come up with
455
00:26:48,600 –> 00:26:51,400
ideas about how this could have
worked.
456
00:26:51,600 –> 00:26:53,000
We’re going to cover four of
them tonight.
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00:26:53,200 –> 00:26:56,700
They’re called the Swoon Theory.
The Conspiracy Theory, the
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00:26:56,700 –> 00:27:01,200
hallucination Theory and the
myth Theory needs basically run
459
00:27:01,200 –> 00:27:05,900
from least plausible to most
plausible.
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00:27:07,000 –> 00:27:09,200
So let’s start off with the
Swoon Theory.
461
00:27:10,600 –> 00:27:12,700
That’s basic idea of the Swoon
theory.
462
00:27:12,700 –> 00:27:16,500
Is that Jesus?
Really died on the cross.
463
00:27:16,800 –> 00:27:22,900
He was knocked unconscious by in
some way, came back to a state
464
00:27:22,900 –> 00:27:27,400
of consciousness inside the tomb
and that’s why everyone thought
465
00:27:27,400 –> 00:27:29,400
he was resurrected.
He didn’t actually die in the
466
00:27:29,400 –> 00:27:32,100
first place.
There’s a lot of problems with
467
00:27:32,100 –> 00:27:37,200
this Theory.
The first one is that Jesus was
468
00:27:37,200 –> 00:27:39,800
crucified.
Crucifixion, was designed to
469
00:27:39,800 –> 00:27:43,000
kill people, our documents from
the time period.
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00:27:43,000 –> 00:27:47,300
Say he was verified to be dead.
Romans usually knew what they
471
00:27:47,300 –> 00:27:49,900
were doing when they were
planted when they were executing
472
00:27:49,900 –> 00:27:53,900
people.
So it doesn’t seem likely that
473
00:27:53,900 –> 00:27:56,500
they would have made a mistake
in this circumstance but say
474
00:27:56,500 –> 00:27:59,100
they did.
We also happen to know that this
475
00:27:59,100 –> 00:28:02,500
tomb that Jesus was in was
guarded and sealed and had a big
476
00:28:02,500 –> 00:28:06,900
Stone in front of it.
So this man who is has been
477
00:28:06,900 –> 00:28:11,000
beaten and crucified somehow
survived that comes to
478
00:28:11,000 –> 00:28:14,300
unconsciousness in a tomb with a
large Stone.
479
00:28:14,500 –> 00:28:18,100
Front of it.
Surrounded by soldiers, this is
480
00:28:18,100 –> 00:28:21,700
a problem as well.
But say for instance he manages
481
00:28:21,700 –> 00:28:25,500
is in his weakened state to roll
the stone out of the way break
482
00:28:25,500 –> 00:28:28,600
through the soldiers or who are
around and make it to his
483
00:28:28,600 –> 00:28:32,900
disciples.
We then have the problem that if
484
00:28:32,900 –> 00:28:36,600
Jesus actually didn’t die, his
disciples are liars.
485
00:28:37,800 –> 00:28:40,100
And in that case, he’s a liar as
well.
486
00:28:40,500 –> 00:28:42,100
And we’re not dealing with this
one Theory at all.
487
00:28:42,100 –> 00:28:45,300
What we’re dealing with is a
conspiracy where’s disciples
488
00:28:45,300 –> 00:28:49,000
made up the fact that he was
resurrected for their own
489
00:28:49,000 –> 00:28:54,500
benefits because if Jesus wasn’t
actually resurrected and managed
490
00:28:54,500 –> 00:28:57,300
to survive this thing and came
to them, bloody and beaten, and
491
00:28:57,300 –> 00:28:59,900
bruised, and dehydrated, and
half dead.
492
00:29:00,200 –> 00:29:01,600
They wouldn’t believe he was
resurrected.
493
00:29:03,100 –> 00:29:05,900
So we’re dealing with the wrong
Theory here anyway, it’s not the
494
00:29:05,900 –> 00:29:09,600
Swoon Theory and you still have
to deal with the fact that if he
495
00:29:09,600 –> 00:29:12,600
didn’t actually get resurrected,
you must have died at some point
496
00:29:12,600 –> 00:29:17,100
and where is that body.
But we have the next period
497
00:29:17,100 –> 00:29:20,800
which is the conspiracy theory
that the disciples made it all
498
00:29:20,800 –> 00:29:22,600
up.
There was some sort of Passover
499
00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:26,500
plot where they decided to trick
everyone and say that Jesus
500
00:29:26,500 –> 00:29:30,400
actually was resurrected.
When he’d honestly died, maybe
501
00:29:30,400 –> 00:29:32,600
they stole the body.
We don’t know what it was.
502
00:29:32,800 –> 00:29:38,000
Applied by the disciples.
This one has some problems as
503
00:29:38,000 –> 00:29:41,900
well.
First of all, why what is the
504
00:29:41,900 –> 00:29:45,600
motive of these disciples to
trick everyone with their
505
00:29:45,600 –> 00:29:50,100
Passover?
Plot, if Jesus actually was a
506
00:29:50,108 –> 00:29:52,200
liar and has risen from the
dead?
507
00:29:53,000 –> 00:29:55,800
Why would they still believe in
him?
508
00:29:55,800 –> 00:29:59,600
What is there to be gained from
helping a dead man for
509
00:29:59,600 –> 00:30:02,100
glorifying?
The name of someone who is dead
510
00:30:02,200 –> 00:30:06,100
and has Dude, everyone that he
can’t save because he couldn’t
511
00:30:06,100 –> 00:30:09,300
save himself.
We have the problem of
512
00:30:09,300 –> 00:30:13,000
motivation that what did they
have to gain from supporting
513
00:30:13,000 –> 00:30:15,600
someone?
They knew was a dead horse.
514
00:30:17,300 –> 00:30:20,800
Also, we have the problem that
we have documents written by
515
00:30:20,800 –> 00:30:23,800
these disciples and then these
documents, they say, they didn’t
516
00:30:23,800 –> 00:30:26,800
believe, they didn’t believe
that he was going to rise from
517
00:30:26,800 –> 00:30:28,900
the dead.
They thought that he was dead.
518
00:30:29,700 –> 00:30:33,500
That’s normal.
My she would expect if they come
519
00:30:33,500 –> 00:30:38,600
up with this conspiracy to say
that he wasn’t Dead when he was
520
00:30:38,600 –> 00:30:40,000
dead.
Why wouldn’t they have made
521
00:30:40,000 –> 00:30:42,500
themselves look a little bit
better rather than looking like
522
00:30:42,500 –> 00:30:45,700
faithless idiots who didn’t
believe their own master?
523
00:30:46,500 –> 00:30:49,000
If this is a conspiracy, they
could have done a lot to making
524
00:30:49,000 –> 00:30:52,000
themselves look better.
As part of this conspiracy.
525
00:30:52,800 –> 00:30:58,800
Thirdly, usually plots like this
come out over the time when they
526
00:30:58,800 –> 00:31:01,700
were persecuted when they were
going throughout the Roman
527
00:31:01,700 –> 00:31:03,400
Empire trying to make these
converts.
528
00:31:04,000 –> 00:31:07,700
Why didn’t anyone defect, why
didn’t anyone get out there and
529
00:31:07,700 –> 00:31:10,700
reveal the plot?
Then finally when you have
530
00:31:10,700 –> 00:31:13,900
authorities who are trying their
very best to defeat this
531
00:31:13,900 –> 00:31:17,600
movement, why didn’t they
managed to Figure this out, find
532
00:31:17,600 –> 00:31:21,000
out where the disables had
hidden the body and uncover it
533
00:31:21,400 –> 00:31:27,800
this is not easy to understand.
The conspiracy theory in my
534
00:31:27,800 –> 00:31:31,300
opinion requires more faith than
to believe that he was
535
00:31:31,300 –> 00:31:34,100
resurrected from the dead,
because it requires men to do
536
00:31:34,100 –> 00:31:39,500
things that give them no benefit
pull it off, absolutely
537
00:31:39,500 –> 00:31:43,300
perfectly and prevent
authorities from finding it out
538
00:31:43,300 –> 00:31:46,500
as well.
You need perfect actions by
539
00:31:46,500 –> 00:31:49,700
people for no reason.
That seems unlikely.
540
00:31:50,700 –> 00:31:53,200
The next thing we have is the
hallucination Theory.
541
00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:58,400
Not that these disciples.
Deliberately tricked everyone,
542
00:31:59,100 –> 00:32:02,000
but let’s avoid the whole motive
problem and say they were
543
00:32:02,000 –> 00:32:04,700
tricked themselves.
They believed Jesus was
544
00:32:04,700 –> 00:32:06,800
resurrected from the dead, and
they did all these actions
545
00:32:06,800 –> 00:32:10,100
because they thought he was
resurrected and they just seen a
546
00:32:10,108 –> 00:32:12,400
bunch of hallucinations.
It’s been known to happen.
547
00:32:12,400 –> 00:32:14,600
When people go through
emotional, trying circumstances
548
00:32:14,600 –> 00:32:19,500
deal with death, but this again
has some problems.
549
00:32:19,900 –> 00:32:23,200
First of all that body, where’s
the body?
550
00:32:23,900 –> 00:32:27,600
If Jesus was not actually
Resurrected, We still don’t
551
00:32:27,800 –> 00:32:29,800
still have the problem of, where
did the body go?
552
00:32:30,000 –> 00:32:32,000
And if the disciples were
deceived, they couldn’t have
553
00:32:32,000 –> 00:32:35,000
stolen the body.
So where is the body?
554
00:32:35,200 –> 00:32:39,700
Why do we have this empty tomb?
It doesn’t answer that question.
555
00:32:40,400 –> 00:32:44,000
Secondly, the idea that it could
have been a Hallucination is not
556
00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:45,800
new.
We read in Luke 24 that they
557
00:32:45,800 –> 00:32:49,200
thought it was a hallucination
by their own testimony.
558
00:32:49,200 –> 00:32:51,500
When Jesus appeared to them,
they thought they were
559
00:32:51,500 –> 00:32:53,500
hallucinating.
He had to prove to them.
560
00:32:53,500 –> 00:32:58,700
That he wasn’t a hallucination.
So if it was a hallucination,
561
00:32:58,700 –> 00:33:01,200
this was a mighty good
hallucination because it managed
562
00:33:01,200 –> 00:33:03,200
to prove to people who were
convinced, it was a
563
00:33:03,200 –> 00:33:07,300
hallucination that it wasn’t in
the way they say.
564
00:33:07,700 –> 00:33:10,900
He proved it to them was by
eating to the, in front of them,
565
00:33:11,100 –> 00:33:14,700
talking to him.
And if I touching his wounds, we
566
00:33:14,700 –> 00:33:16,900
have a mighty, fine
hallucination.
567
00:33:17,100 –> 00:33:23,000
If people are able to
hallucinate all of that, As
568
00:33:23,000 –> 00:33:26,600
well.
We’ve got a hallucination that
569
00:33:26,600 –> 00:33:30,300
not only manages to prove
itself, not to be hallucination,
570
00:33:30,400 –> 00:33:34,000
but also manages to hang around
for exactly 40 days.
571
00:33:34,100 –> 00:33:38,700
So repeated hallucination.
And then stop appearing after
572
00:33:38,700 –> 00:33:41,400
those 40 days after they have
this magnificent hallucination
573
00:33:41,400 –> 00:33:45,300
of it going up into heaven.
As far as the hallucination
574
00:33:45,300 –> 00:33:48,400
Theory goes, we require
miraculous hallucination for
575
00:33:48,400 –> 00:33:52,600
this to happen and our burden of
proof already was that, we want
576
00:33:52,600 –> 00:33:56,900
something that seems less
miraculous, not more, miraculous
577
00:33:57,000 –> 00:33:59,400
to believe in the hallucination
Theory, you need to believe in a
578
00:33:59,400 –> 00:34:01,900
greater Miracle than Jesus
rising from the dead.
579
00:34:03,500 –> 00:34:06,400
Now, the final Theory going to
look at is the myth Theory.
580
00:34:06,900 –> 00:34:10,800
The myth theory is the one
you’ll find most often in.
581
00:34:10,800 –> 00:34:13,199
Scholarly works the idea of
that.
582
00:34:13,900 –> 00:34:18,400
These documents were written as
a myth and we can compare them
583
00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:21,199
with other myths.
Such as myths about officer
584
00:34:21,199 –> 00:34:27,500
arrests or about certain Roman,
Catholic saints and say, those
585
00:34:27,500 –> 00:34:31,400
are obviously lousy Tails
invented by people to pump up.
586
00:34:31,600 –> 00:34:35,000
Someone they thought was
important and the gospels, the
587
00:34:35,000 –> 00:34:38,100
whole new testament in fact is
just the same way, it’s a myth
588
00:34:38,199 –> 00:34:42,500
that people came up with that
was produced over time and it
589
00:34:42,500 –> 00:34:47,500
didn’t really happen.
Problem with that is, as far as
590
00:34:47,500 –> 00:34:52,100
misko, the New Testament is a
pretty lousy myth.
591
00:34:52,300 –> 00:34:56,800
First of all, it was written
within 40 Years of the events
592
00:34:56,800 –> 00:34:59,100
happening.
It’s hard to create myths, quite
593
00:34:59,100 –> 00:35:02,800
that fast.
The reason for that is, let’s
594
00:35:02,800 –> 00:35:06,400
take an example of someone who
just recently died, say Ronald
595
00:35:06,400 –> 00:35:11,000
Reagan, there are people still
alive who knew Ronald Reagan, if
596
00:35:11,000 –> 00:35:14,400
I wrote a biography of Ronald
Reagan in which I said that
597
00:35:14,500 –> 00:35:19,700
every morning he would he would
strap Wings on his back and fly
598
00:35:19,700 –> 00:35:24,300
up in the sky in the area.
And then come back down, I might
599
00:35:24,300 –> 00:35:27,200
sell a few copies of my
biography but anyone who knew
600
00:35:27,200 –> 00:35:30,200
Ronald Reagan would know that he
didn’t actually do that and they
601
00:35:30,200 –> 00:35:32,500
would say that Biography was a
pack of Lies.
602
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:36,500
It probably wouldn’t get
preserved because people would
603
00:35:36,500 –> 00:35:40,100
consider it a pack of lies, and
we wouldn’t have 24,000
604
00:35:40,100 –> 00:35:43,700
manuscripts of it to look at.
That’s the problem we have with
605
00:35:43,700 –> 00:35:45,900
considering in a myth, it’s too
soon.
606
00:35:46,200 –> 00:35:50,500
Mitch develop over time after
people can’t really say, whether
607
00:35:50,500 –> 00:35:52,900
something was true or not, not
during the time, when we still
608
00:35:52,900 –> 00:35:57,300
have eye witnesses as well.
You have the problem of myths,
609
00:35:57,300 –> 00:36:00,500
don’t develop out of nothing.
You need to have some solid
610
00:36:00,500 –> 00:36:02,300
fact.
And who was this?
611
00:36:02,300 –> 00:36:05,900
Real non mythical?
Jesus then Who the myth was
612
00:36:05,900 –> 00:36:09,500
based around because of Jesus.
We have claimed that he was
613
00:36:09,900 –> 00:36:12,000
risen from the dead and the
disciples.
614
00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:14,900
We have writing afterwards, say
that he rose from the dead.
615
00:36:15,200 –> 00:36:19,600
And if there was actually a real
Jesus who didn’t really rise
616
00:36:19,600 –> 00:36:21,800
from the dead, and he got made
up afterwards.
617
00:36:22,200 –> 00:36:25,400
We have to figure out who he
actually was and so far.
618
00:36:25,400 –> 00:36:27,400
He seems like a liar and a
cheat.
619
00:36:27,800 –> 00:36:30,800
Because he said things that
didn’t actually happen.
620
00:36:33,200 –> 00:36:36,800
Ah, ah, ah, So the same argument
can be applied to the New
621
00:36:36,800 –> 00:36:40,300
Testament as a whole in second
Peter 1 in 16.
622
00:36:40,800 –> 00:36:43,200
It’s claimed, I’ll read that for
you.
623
00:36:43,600 –> 00:36:46,800
We did not follow cleverly
invented stories when we told
624
00:36:46,800 –> 00:36:49,200
you about the power and coming
of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
625
00:36:49,300 –> 00:36:51,500
But we were eyewitnesses of his
majesty.
626
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:55,600
Obviously people at the time had
come up with these same theories
627
00:36:55,700 –> 00:36:58,700
and we’re throwing them at them.
And in the New Testament, we
628
00:36:58,700 –> 00:37:03,100
find offenses that these were
not cleverly invented, stories
629
00:37:03,800 –> 00:37:08,700
sounds a lot like a myth to me
that did come up with to try and
630
00:37:08,900 –> 00:37:14,300
make up this wonderful savior.
If they say something like that,
631
00:37:14,300 –> 00:37:17,700
it leaves to conclusions either
they’re telling the truth or
632
00:37:17,700 –> 00:37:20,400
they’re lying.
If they’re lying, we’re back to
633
00:37:20,400 –> 00:37:23,800
the conspiracy theory and if
they’re telling the truth, then
634
00:37:23,800 –> 00:37:33,400
Jesus was resurrected. so, now
that we’ve gone through No, and
635
00:37:33,400 –> 00:37:34,900
here’s something else, that’s
interesting.
636
00:37:36,600 –> 00:37:38,700
The gospels, don’t read like
myths.
637
00:37:38,800 –> 00:37:40,500
They read like eyewitness
accounts.
638
00:37:40,600 –> 00:37:44,800
We have up there.
A comparison for you between the
639
00:37:44,800 –> 00:37:49,200
gospel of Peter and the Gospel
of John, the gospel of Peter.
640
00:37:49,400 –> 00:37:51,300
It’s largely viewed to be a
myth.
641
00:37:51,600 –> 00:37:55,200
We don’t have many manuscripts
of that because it was widely
642
00:37:55,200 –> 00:37:58,100
reputed in its own time to be a
forgery.
643
00:37:58,900 –> 00:38:01,100
But really, it’s kind of
interesting.
644
00:38:02,000 –> 00:38:04,600
So, let’s see what it says.
It says that.
645
00:38:04,800 –> 00:38:09,000
Okay, this is talking about when
Jesus was resurrected again,
646
00:38:09,000 –> 00:38:11,500
they see three men.
Come forth from the tomb and two
647
00:38:11,500 –> 00:38:14,600
of them supporting one and
across following them, and of
648
00:38:14,600 –> 00:38:17,700
the, to the Head reached under
the heaven, but the head of him
649
00:38:17,700 –> 00:38:20,900
who was led by them over past
the heavens, and they heard a
650
00:38:20,900 –> 00:38:23,400
voice from the heavens saying
that was preached to them.
651
00:38:23,400 –> 00:38:26,100
That sleep in a response was
heard from the cross.
652
00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:29,500
Yay.
So in this manner, It, we have
653
00:38:29,500 –> 00:38:33,400
people with hugely
over-exaggerated Dimensions
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since their heads, our way up
there and we have this gigantic
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talking cross in the Gospel of
John, we have, this is the same
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path as you saw earlier.
With another verse attached, we
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have a description of something,
he clearly considers miraculous
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and annexed, but which we can
find out not to be miraculous
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instead of description of the
various This epic event.
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And we have someone going
claiming eyewitness testimony
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the man who saw it has given
testimony.
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In his testimony is true.
He knows that he tells the truth
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and he testifies so that you may
also believe the gospels don’t
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read like Miss and I invite you
to read submits and compare the
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gospels to them and see if
they’re the same sort of thing,
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because they aren’t verify me on
it.
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If you want.
They don’t read, like, men their
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wit.
They are written, like
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eyewitness accounts.
So, let’s take a look at what
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conclusions we can make from
this.
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I believe I have demonstrated
that the resurrection of Jesus
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Christ is a reasonable
explanation of the facts.
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If a man, honestly, was
resurrected from the day, we
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have a good explanation for why
we have the existence of
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Christianity.
As a religion, we have a good
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explanation for why we have all
these accounts.
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All these documents claiming
that he rose from the dead, it
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makes sense.
If a man actually was, were
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actually did get resurrected
from the dead.
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I also claimed that these other
explanations that we’ve looked
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at at are not reasonable
explanations that they require
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you to believe in a greater
Miracle than that.
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Jesus actually was resurrected
from the dead and So based on
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these two conclusions, I derive
a third conclusion and that
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00:40:25,700 –> 00:40:32,800
conclusion, is that if Jesus did
rise from the dead, then we have
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to believe what else you said.
And the other thing that he said
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is that he’s going to come back.
When he comes back, we need to
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be ready for it and acts 17 and
verse 31.
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It says, for God has set a day
when he will judge the world
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with Justice.
By the man, he is appointed.
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He has given proof The best
almond by raising him from the
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dead.
It’s not my subject night, but
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if Jesus was resurrected from
the dead, it doesn’t just mean
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that a man was resurrected from
the dead and that’s amazing.
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It means that the other things
he said were true as well
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because him being resurrected
from the dead was the proof that
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00:41:11,400 –> 00:41:17,000
was given for him for the other
things that he said and he said
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00:41:17,000 –> 00:41:20,200
that he is going to come back
and judge the world and we need
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to be ready for that.
And so tonight, I hope I’ve
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demonstrated to you that we can
believe beyond all reasonable
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doubt that Jesus Christ rose
from the dead.
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I hope I’ve also demonstrated to
you that this is not just head
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knowledge but that it’s vitally
important because of Jesus
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Christ did rise from the dead.
Then it requires action on our
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part because we need to be ready
when the next thing happens that
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he miraculously approximate
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