Dave Pogson – Atonement – Class 4

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Words to act As an introduction,
we’ll call upon our brother Dave

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to come forward and to continue
his class for us on the

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Atonement.
Well, good evening, brothers and

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sisters.
You’re really in trouble tonight

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because I brought my Greek into
Linear with me, so I’m going to

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bore you with all this technical
stuff, OK?

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All right, next class is holiday
time and some of you may be at

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the Bible school and so on.
All right, so tonight I thought

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we would jump forward a class
and deal with the main pivotal

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point, the main verse that deals
with the atonement, which is

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Romans chapter 321 onwards.
OK, All right, so you’ve got to,

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you blokes have got to really
concentrate for once in your

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life all night, OK?
It’s this is your life, OK.

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And if you can get this, you’re
20 years ahead of yourself.

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All right, so you young people
try and get with this, but you

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older people know it backwards.
But I think we all enjoy going

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through it again and again.
As we pointed out, brother and

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sister’s brother Carter, on the
last occasion I mentioned, said

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that the he believed the two
most important scriptures on

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this subject was Romans.
Five, and we did a bit of Romans

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5 doing we had a look through
that and the other one is these

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verses in Romans chapter 3.
Now I hope Phil announced on

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Sunday that you’ll need a
pencil.

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I did all right, So just keep
your pencil handy and don’t when

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I say cross something out and
put something else there.

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Do it very lightly.
OK, don’t do it so deep that you

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can’t rub it out again.
OK, it’s just a method for this

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class to identify a couple of
things.

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OK.
So don’t put it in that deep.

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You can’t rub it out, OK?
And the rule that we use is not

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a rule that can be used
universally throughout the New

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Testament anyway, OK?
So just go back a bit and look

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at the proposition we put at the
1st place because we’re going to

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go ahead first into this
proposition, OK?

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Our proposition to you is a
sacrifice is actually a full

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demonstration of certain facts
and truths.

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Pick up demonstration.
OK, That word is actually used

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in Romans tonight.
You read it.

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But we didn’t read
demonstration.

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We read declare.
OK, it says to declare the

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righteousness of God.
The word declare.

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They’re very poorly translated.
OK?

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It should be to exhibit or to
demonstrate.

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OK, So what we’re looking at
here, There’s Jamie.

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Thank goodness you’re here,
Jamie.

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I knew there was something easy
from the class.

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There he is.
Look at that.

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Hey, he’s a top technician at
Telecom.

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I get working these Mcgraths out
very carefully.

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I think I’ve got them all now.
There’s one mixed up with

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Apache.
Yeah, that’s Jared, isn’t it?

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Jared, you’re mixed up.
Yeah, I’ve got your workout.

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He was at Wilson last week.
Very important.

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It’s very hard to remember that
when he and I fell, all these

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different faces and these young
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OK, Now my proposition to you is
that what’s going on here is

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actually a climax of what’s been
going on right through the life

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of Christ, OK?
But it all sorts of comes to a

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head, OK.
God was working in Christ.

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And he’s demonstrating certain
facts, 1 facts about man and two

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facts about God.
Now we’ve looked at some of the

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facts about man.
We found out where we’re coming

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from.
From Romans chapter 5.

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We found out that man is a
mortal being, that by man sin in

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the world and death by sin
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And it passed on to all men by
inheritance.

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We became sitting brown and we
became mortal, and we’ve

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exacerbated that.
That is, we’ve made things worse

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by our own conduct, OK?
An actual sin we inherit, we

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have caused to it, but to even
grow by our own conduct.

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So we’ve got real problems, OK?
And so man has that problem.

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He’s more sitting brown.
He’s mortal, OK, Rightly related

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to death, and he can’t save
himself, OK.

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But Christ was also he had to
represent man.

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He had to demonstrate man’s
position, but at the same time

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he had to manifest God and in
Romans 5 had talked about we get

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certain disabilities from Adam,
but we get certain benefits from

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a second Adam.
Remember that?

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And he was the Son of God and he
was a tempted no punch yet

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without sin.
And because of that, and because

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he it was obedient under the
death of the cross, wherefore

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God has highly exalted him,
Philippians chapter 2.

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And all sorts of benefits come
from the fact that he was the

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sinless Son of God, Son of man.
And we share the benefits of

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Christ’s victory over sin.
I repeat, we share the

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disabilities of Adam.
We share, you know, the

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blessings that came upon Jesus
Christ because of his perfect

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obedience, because of one man’s
disobedience, we suffer certain

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disabilities, but one man’s
perfect obedience, we can share

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with him the benefits of that
obedience.

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Now that’s fundamental.
The atonement, the doctrine of

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sharing fellowship.
It’s called the word village

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means.
Sharing so he had to two jobs to

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do, he had to demonstrate
certain facts.

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He had to expose man for what he
really was because we’ve got a

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problem and recognising just how
big a sinners we are.

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We’ve all got that problem.
That’s a very serious problem.

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And that was what I was going to
deal with tonight.

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But I want to jump forward, OK.
And he had at the same time the

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manifest God.
So his job was to expose man’s

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weakness and his the enormity of
his transgression and how

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rightly related to death he was.
You know, on the other hand, he

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had the job of manifesting the
power of the divine holiness

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when you take it on board.
And he took it on board from a

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very early age.
So much so he’s called the Word.

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Is he the Word made flesh?
So when you look at this set of

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circumstances, you look at all
this sort of things climaxy.

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If he was a man, yet a divine by
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education, he was God manifest.
Then within him there was a

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conflict.
There was a conflict, as it is

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in all of us, the conflict
between the forces of weakness

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and the forces of strength from
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So weakness from man, strength
from God.

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And that conflict goes on, but
it’s not only weakness from

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ourselves, it’s weakness from
all our world and the people

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around about us.
So Christ, representing God and

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at the same time representing
man, had to deal with this

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tremendous conflict, a conflict
which came to an apex here.

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As he died upon the tree.
So that what you’re looking at

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the final moment of the
conflict.

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OK, if you’re going to choose
any part of the life of Christ

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to represent that conflict, the
best point is the final moment.

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The final moment represents his
total life of conflict between

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sin and righteousness, human sin
and divine righteousness, and

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then the purpose of God.
We know God was dishonored by.

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Adam.
That left God’s educational

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method in question, all right.
It was the work of Christ to

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demonstrate the educational
effect of the Word of God upon a

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person capable of fully
receiving it, to demonstrate its

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power and vindicate an honour
God.

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So God had been dishonoured
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Christ’s work was to honour God.
And that’s why we said Christ

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died for God before he died for
any of us.

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He died to uphold the honour of
God.

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In fact, we think we get no
benefit unless we can see that,

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unless we can see that God’s
been glorified and vindicated

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and seen to be right and just
and fair and equitable and all

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these dealings both with sin and
in matters of holiness.

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OK.
It’s the absolute recognition of

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that, right?
Recognition, acknowledgement,

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right?
It’s called faith in his blood.

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This recognition and
acknowledgement of these facts

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lived out by Christ is called
faith in his death, His blood.

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His faith in his blood means
believing that God was

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vindicated.
Right believing it and being

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educated just how sinful we are
and just how righteous God is

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and how merciful He is in
providing this belief in this.

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They acknowledgement this as a
basis of forgiveness.

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It’s an awesome concept and that
constitutes the gospel.

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So.
I’ve just put to you again the

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concept.
There was a demonstration of the

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facts, and the longer you look
at it, you can sit there and

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look at it for hours and hours.
You can see thousands of details

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about human sin and divine
holiness.

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You can look at the outside and
you can look at the crowd.

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They crucified it.
You can look at humanity here,

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one that identified with Christ.
Lord Remember Me when there come

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a it’s in their daily readings
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Lord, Remember Me when there
come a sin to thy Kingdom, OK?

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He represented a group of the
crowd that eventually saw his

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position and identified with
this sinless son of God.

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And because he identified with
it and because he had a good

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knowledge of the gospel before
he got into this sort of

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trouble, Christ said, you’ll be
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OK, this one here said, now I
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We shouldn’t be up here if
you’re the Christ.

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We shouldn’t be up here.
This blood says, yes, we should.

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He said that we shouldn’t be up
here if you’re the Christ.

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You can’t come down from the
cross and take us down too.

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He refused to recognise the.
Fallen state of man.

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He refused to recognise that
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He failed to confess.
The facts.

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So God demonstrates the facts.
We’re called upon to confess the

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facts.
It’s called faith in His blood

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in Romans chapter 3.
Now what I’ve just put to you is

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the most important concept
possible.

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I haven’t proved anything.
I’m just putting it to you as a

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proposition, OK?
So I’ve got a leap forward and

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look at Romans chapter 3.
OK, we’re going to do with that

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tonight about how sin blinds us.
It’s a very important concept

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you I keep quoting to you
Proverbs 2813.

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He that confesses and forsakeeth
his sin will find mercy with

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God.
But it’s a problem with that and

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the problem is that our.
Ability to yeah, I’d like to

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talk about that, but we can’t do
not, OK?

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We’ve got to start, get into
Romans 3 in this topic of the

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righteousness of God, OK?
So get your pencil ready.

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Romans is all about two methods
of righteousness.

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That is how a man can be
righteous in the sight of God

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the Judge.
OK, so he is God, the holy and

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righteous judge of all the
earth.

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Shall not the judge of the old
earth do right?

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God can only do what’s right.
We sometimes forgive our kids

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wrongly.
He won’t do it wrongly.

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He can only do things right.
OK, and here is you and.

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I all start with Jesus Christ.
OK, all right, so we have this

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subject called the righteousness
of God, and in Romans it deals

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with two systems of
righteousness.

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All right, one was the.
Jewish system, the Judaizers

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view of righteousness.
That is how you can be righteous

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in God’s sight, how you can
stand there and receive the OK

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from the judge.
They had their method.

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There’s a method based upon
plain and simple wrong doctrine.

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It’s amazing how a wrong
doctrine produces terrible

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attitudes.
OK, and they had some wrong

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doctrines, very fundamental
wrong doctrines.

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And the and the most fundamental
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You’ll find all this just by
reading Philippians chapter 3.

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It talks about what Paul used to
be like.

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It all boiled down to the fact
that the Jews trusted in the

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flesh to earn salvation by
keeping a set of divine rules.

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So it was flesh.
This is 1 the wrong method of of

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being pronounced righteous.
This is the background of Romans

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all.
Through.

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Romans.
He’s arguing against this

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concept, so get the background
boy, you won’t know why.

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Things are said the way they
said.

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You won’t know why it’s there.
All right, So he’s fighting this

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concept of the Jews, which
taught the way to be righteous

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was to trust in the flesh, to do
your best to keep a set of

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divine rules called the Law of
Moses.

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OK.
And if you do that, you actually

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earn righteousness or
acceptance.

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I used to think about that when
I was a little kid.

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I used to think, oh, yeah, I did
something pretty awful.

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But if I do a lot of good
things, that will cover that.

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And the good things are more
than the bad things.

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And I don’t feel so bad about it
that that’s a.

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And that’s exactly how they
thought.

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They all recognized man had
weakness, but they also believed

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man had a lot of strength.
OK.

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And that God had created us.
There’s a lot of goodness.

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People believe that in every
church and humanists believe it

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today.
They all recognize human beings

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are weak in some areas, but they
believe there’s a lot of

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goodness in it too, OK.
And what it means is the

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exercise of goodness.
And, and if you exercise

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yourself in God’s set of rules,
and that’ll strengthen that

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goodness and that and you do
more acts of good than you do of

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evil, therefore you’ve sent the
balances the right way.

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You’re more righteous than you
are sinful.

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Therefore you’re righteous.
You’ve earned the position.

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OK, Law, law.
And they had this concept

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expressed in Romans as law too,
not the law, even though it’s

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referring to the law of Moses.
They simply called it law.

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And by law they meant equity,
Yeah.

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Can you follow what I mean by
equity German?

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Well, I’ll tell you, you got to
work.

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How much an hour do you get $10?
OK.

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So you got $10 probably get 25
in blood and been a pensioner.

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I get about 5.
So, so that if if if you have

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agreed for $10 and you work for
10 hours equals equity, that

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equals $100.
Can you see the idea of equity?

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OK.
So they saw law as a principle

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of equity, OK.
And that was there and they were

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very vehement about it, OK.
And of course, because the

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rituals of the.
Law were a lot easier to keep

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than its moral requirements.
They put a lot of emphasis on

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all the rituals.
Of the law.

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You know, every the flesh is
very capable of doing

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ritualistic things.
It’ll traverse land and sea that

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convert somebody and build
churches.

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They’ll do all sorts of things.
And we can be doing it.

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We can be doing it right now.
We can be coming here giving out

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leaf is doing everything.
And it might all be on the basis

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of the strength of the flesh.
It mightn’t be out of taking on

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board the divine mind and.
Attitudes and out of gratitude.

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Operating from that as a motive
force, OK, they’re two different

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motive forces, OK.
Faith energized by love, the

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Galatians is the great motive
force of the gospel.

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Faith in the fact generates a
spirit of gratitude.

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You take on board Christ’s own
methods.

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You take on board divine
attitudes.

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And they became a mental, moral
motivating force that you

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receive from outside of yourself
into your faculties.

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And they became become a
motivating force for you to do

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the things that God wants you to
do.

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Works made for repentance.
There’s no argument about works

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are needed.
There’s no argument about

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obedience.
Everyone agreed, the Jews

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agreed, the Christians believed
obedience was necessary.

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There’s no doubt about that.
The problem was your motivation.

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What motivates you?
And we can be Christadelphian or

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Judaizer, and you can live your
whole life in the truth, keeping

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virtually a set of rules in the
strength of yourself.

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It’s and you’d be quite blind of
the fact you’re doing it.

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And that’s why this doctrine,
the atonement is so important.

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We have a basic understanding of
that.

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Fortunately, amongst
Christelphians, we always push

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the importance of the Word of
God, something studied and taken

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on board day by day.
But Saturday and they still do

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it.
If you retire in a Jewish Home,

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all morning, all the old Jews,
they sit around studying the

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first five books of Moses, the
Torah, they spend the whole

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morning.
Doing nothing else but studying

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the Torah in the afternoon
they’re given magazines about

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the revival of Israel and so on
in between meals and that I

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mean, but the the problem is
what’s missing in their study of

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the word is those simple words
in Timothy you know or you know

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from a child there was known the
whole.

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Scriptures which were able to
give wise to salvation through

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the.
Faith that, as in Christ Jesus,

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the Word of God won’t work for
you as it should as a moral

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force.
It’ll be just a set of rules

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which you’ll do your best to
keep.

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You’re missing out on divine
mind motivation.

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Missing out on.
OK, OK, so deals with Romans the

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righteousness of God.
If you got your pencils ready.

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If we go to Romans chapter 1 and
we go to what’s called the

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thesis and Alan will take you
through this all again, but

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that’s good to do it a couple of
times reading from Romans

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chapter 1.
Have your pencil ready verse 15

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so as much as as in me is I’m
ready to preach the gospel to

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you that at Rome also for I’m
not ashamed of the gospel the of

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Christ is not in the originals,
but that makes no difference

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anyway.
I’m not ashamed of the gospel,

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for it is the.
Power of God under salvation.

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Obviously a great moral power.
It’s the power of God under

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salvation.
He’s probably quoting Numbers

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1417 when Moses in our that’s in
our readings tonight.

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That’s in our readings today.
Did you?

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When he pleads for Israel, they,
you know, the spice, came back

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with an evil report in their
readings and they wanted to make

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a captain and go.
Back in God.

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Wanted to splat them out and so.
Moses the prophet Christ is a

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prophet like unto Moses, a great
mediator, and he mediates for

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their forgiveness, and he
appeals to the great power of

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God should.
Manifest your power.

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And what was the power?
It was the power.

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To forgive, the power to
forgive, that’s what it was, the

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power of God unto salvation.
OK.

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And he quotes, you know, he
quotes Exodus 33 and 34,

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gracious and merciful and
long-suffering, but by no means

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will clear the guilty.
Well, we know we’re guilty.

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We acknowledge that.
We know you won’t likely pass by

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sin, but now let your great
power, your goodness, come

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pardon.
And he said immediately.

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Well, according to your word,
because of you, Moses, I forgive

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them, but let them know that my
purpose is not all about

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forgiveness.
And he swear before them the

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whole.
Earth would be filled with his

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glory.
He wants we’re always looking

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forgiveness.
He was always looking for

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holiness.
OK, and that’s the context of

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that.
So he’s probably referring to

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that when he says the gospel is
the power of God under salvation

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to everyone that faiths that
believeth Jamon.

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That’s something you’ve got to
get in this, mate.

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In this Romans bit, faith,
belief of the same Greek word,

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and right through Romans, OK.
In fact, right through the New

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Testament, OK, except except
one’s a noun.

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Faith’s a noun, and believing is
a verb.

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I bet you don’t even know what a
verb is, dear.

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What do you say?
What did he say?

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What did he say?
Oh, you did?

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Well, why don’t you see if you
know the next one?

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I’ll come to it in a minute.
Test you out.

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I don’t think they teach English
at school these days.

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I had Matthew home the other
night.

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I took him to clause 12 and he
couldn’t even pronounce

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propitiation.
And then he said, what’s this

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viz bit?
What’s viz?

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He says OK, Yeah, Anyway, I love
picking on you blogs with your

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bad English and not that I’m any
good at it either.

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So so I’ll, I’ll tend to use the
word and it doesn’t exist in

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English to him that faiths I’ll
tend to use.

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I’ve created an English verb for
faith called faiths or faithing,

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OK, instead of using the word
believe, OK, because I think

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there’s a difference between
belief and faith.

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I believe you can believe a
thing as a fact that may not

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affect you.
Faith is believing the thing

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that’s strongly right, that it
affects you and changes your

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conduct.
It’s a converting belief.

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That’s the difference between
ordinary belief and faith.

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So we should have an English
word OK fighting or something

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like that, OK.
And the other one?

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The other one to note is the
word just and righteous, the

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righteousness of God.
Sometimes it’s called the

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justice that God may be just.
Now in the Greek, there’s no

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difference between just and
righteous.

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They’re the same word basically.
But here again you got the

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problem all right.
To.

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The problem of noun and verb.
So sometimes instead of using

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the word just, I’ll say
righteous.

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Fine, there’s no such English
word, but I’m trying to explain

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to you I’ll.
Try and use.

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The one word, even though they
they don’t exist in English.

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Can you follow me?
You’ll see it as we go along.

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So I’ll just read that again,
verse 16.

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I’m not ashamed.
The gospel for it is the power

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of God under salvation to
everyone.

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June Gentile.
That faiths to the Jew 1st and

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also to the Gentile of Greek you
ready with your pencil for

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therein that is within the
gospel is the righteousness of

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God revealed.
Now I want you to change one

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word there.
See the righteousness of God.

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I want you to lightly cross out
the word the and put A and it’s

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above it, in its place, a
righteousness of God.

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OK, very lightly.
You’ll be able to rub it out

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later when you’ve got the
message about it, you know, in a

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few months time.
Rub it out.

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Of course it tells us something.
OK, It tells us something.

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You see the righteousness of God
as a term in Romans.

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The Testament and in the Old
Testament can be one of two

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things that express the
righteousness of God means God’s

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or righteousness, his own holy
character.

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OK, can mean that, but in this
place it doesn’t mean that

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that’s what I’m putting to you.
It means #2 to be reckoned

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righteous.
It’s all they call the

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righteousness of God.
Takes a long while to sink in.

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The girls pick it up straight
away, but boys boy takes a

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while.
Can you follow me, John?

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Well, can you understand that it
could refer to God as?

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Righteous.
He’s a righteous God, but the

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very same phrase is also used.
When you were baptized, you were

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pronounced righteous.
You had received the

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righteousness of God.
But that means something

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completely different to God’s
personal.

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Righteousness, doesn’t it?
That means he’s converted and

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forgiven you, and he’s going to
help you from there on.

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Isn’t that true?
You were baptized not so long

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ago, were you?
Can you see the difference?

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Now you can oversimplify it and
say it can mean God’s personal

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holiness and righteousness, his
righteous character, or it can

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mean the forgiveness we receive
from God.

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And only forgiveness is
oversimplifying.

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And that forgiveness method is
also called the righteousness of

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God.
Why would it be called the

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righteousness of God?
Because in Romans it’s dealing.

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With this other righteousness
called unrighteousness, man’s

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method of righteousness, this is
saying, God’s method of

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righteousness.
See.

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I’ll prove it to you.
Prove it to you.

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OK, let’s look at Romans
chapter.

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This is why I said you’re going
to do Romans 1 to 8.

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That’s not good enough.
You got to do Romans one to 10.

437
00:30:22,200 –> 00:30:28,200
If you look at Romans 10 verse
3, he’s pressing total buttons

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00:30:28,200 –> 00:30:31,800
here and this is a key verse,
Alan.

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00:30:32,440 –> 00:30:38,400
It’s a key verse for thy that is
the Jews be ignorant of God’s

440
00:30:38,400 –> 00:30:44,000
righteousness, God’s method of
righteousness for you and going

441
00:30:44,000 –> 00:30:48,760
about to establish their own
method of righteousness have not

442
00:30:48,760 –> 00:30:53,800
submitted themselves to the
method of righteousness that

443
00:30:53,800 –> 00:31:00,640
comes from God.
So there’s two righteousnesses

444
00:31:00,640 –> 00:31:06,240
here, their own method or God’s
method for you to be righteous.

445
00:31:06,800 –> 00:31:13,720
Therefore, it carries this idea
sometimes here, God’s method to

446
00:31:13,720 –> 00:31:17,520
make you righteous, He grants
you getting it.

447
00:31:22,240 –> 00:31:23,720
Anyone got any problems with
that?

448
00:31:24,360 –> 00:31:29,800
So I go back to Romans one
again, and you must get that, or

449
00:31:29,800 –> 00:31:34,000
everything I say from here on
won’t mean a thing to you

450
00:31:40,160 –> 00:31:42,680
because we’re about to jump to
Romans 3, where we’ve got to

451
00:31:42,680 –> 00:31:47,680
sort it out there.
So verse 17 says for therein,

452
00:31:47,680 –> 00:31:54,280
that is within the gospel is a
method of righteousness from God

453
00:31:56,600 –> 00:31:58,880
and it’s revealed in that
gospel.

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00:31:58,880 –> 00:32:02,920
This method of God to make you
righteousness is revealed.

455
00:32:04,880 –> 00:32:06,680
It’s from faith.
That’s Eck.

456
00:32:07,160 –> 00:32:14,280
It’s based on faith.
So within the gospel is a method

457
00:32:14,280 –> 00:32:17,840
for you to be righteous in God’s
sight based on faith.

458
00:32:20,240 –> 00:32:23,960
Then it says to.
Faith that is East.

459
00:32:24,480 –> 00:32:29,640
That is toward faith and as many
interpretations of that nothing

460
00:32:29,640 –> 00:32:35,000
Brother Carter gives the most
logical and it is it got the

461
00:32:35,000 –> 00:32:41,280
idea of here is a righteousness
of Gods of God, a method of

462
00:32:41,280 –> 00:32:43,800
righteousness based on faith.
That’s all.

463
00:32:43,800 –> 00:32:49,240
One phrase within the gospel is
a method of righteousness based

464
00:32:49,240 –> 00:32:55,960
upon faith, and that
righteousness goes toward those

465
00:32:56,440 –> 00:33:01,200
who actually faith.
That the idea toward those E

466
00:33:01,200 –> 00:33:04,480
toward those who fight.
And then he gives a quote and

467
00:33:04,480 –> 00:33:07,680
there’s not a double faith in
the quote he quotes from

468
00:33:07,680 –> 00:33:12,680
Habakkuk.
The the just shall live by faith

469
00:33:13,000 –> 00:33:16,760
or as it literally is in the
Hebrew, My righteous one by

470
00:33:16,760 –> 00:33:24,840
faith shall live.
Have a Cath chapter 2 We we

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00:33:24,840 –> 00:33:32,760
won’t go there.
See how I change just The just

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00:33:32,760 –> 00:33:35,920
shall live by faith, my
righteous 1.

473
00:33:35,920 –> 00:33:39,680
The righteous shall live by
faith.

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00:33:41,600 –> 00:33:45,480
The word just and the word
righteousness in this verse

475
00:33:45,920 –> 00:33:53,800
comes from the same basic root.
The word just and righteousness

476
00:33:53,800 –> 00:33:58,480
come from the same root.
Connect the idea of just to the

477
00:33:58,480 –> 00:34:05,120
word righteousness, right?
Faith is belief to the point,

478
00:34:05,400 –> 00:34:07,960
belief in the gospel, the point
where it changes you.

479
00:34:08,760 –> 00:34:12,120
And live.
It means not only live now, it

480
00:34:12,120 –> 00:34:21,600
means to live eternally.
Getting too heavy is it?

481
00:34:24,040 –> 00:34:37,510
Never mind, so I read.
It again for within the gospel

482
00:34:37,510 –> 00:34:41,389
is a method of righteousness
from God revealed.

483
00:34:41,590 –> 00:34:46,190
It’s based on faith, and that
pronouncement of righteousness

484
00:34:46,190 –> 00:34:49,679
comes on those who actually
faith as it is written.

485
00:34:50,080 –> 00:34:55,880
The righteous shall live by
faith.

486
00:35:00,880 –> 00:35:05,920
OK, In fact, he becomes
righteous because of his faith

487
00:35:06,400 –> 00:35:10,680
in the work of Jesus Christ.
OK, he was.

488
00:35:11,040 –> 00:35:14,000
If you like.
If you want to oversimplify it,

489
00:35:14,440 –> 00:35:19,880
it’s saying that a method of
forgiveness has been revealed in

490
00:35:19,880 –> 00:35:24,120
the gospel based upon faith.
You got to believe certain facts

491
00:35:24,120 –> 00:35:27,600
and acknowledge them as it is
written.

492
00:35:28,480 –> 00:35:32,120
The righteous that is the
forgiven and this doesn’t

493
00:35:32,120 –> 00:35:35,120
strictly mean this.
The forgiven will live eternal

494
00:35:35,120 –> 00:35:38,000
because of their.
Faith, can you follow that?

495
00:35:39,040 –> 00:35:46,240
OK, OK, let’s take that now up.
It’s hard work tonight and it’s

496
00:35:46,240 –> 00:35:49,000
the main bit.
Let’s go to Romans 3.

497
00:36:01,690 –> 00:36:06,370
Now this is all on tape.
OK, you fellas, this is all on

498
00:36:06,370 –> 00:36:08,890
tape.
And you may have to listen to

499
00:36:08,890 –> 00:36:12,050
the tape several times to get
these messages.

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00:36:12,170 –> 00:36:14,370
OK.
When I’m preparing people for

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00:36:14,370 –> 00:36:20,530
baptism, I expect them to be
able to explain verses 19 to 31

502
00:36:20,530 –> 00:36:22,010
of Romans 8.
And that becomes.

503
00:36:22,010 –> 00:36:26,280
Part of their examination well,
I find I always have to put on

504
00:36:26,280 –> 00:36:30,040
tape a paraphrase of what it’s
saying and I have to listen to

505
00:36:30,040 –> 00:36:33,520
it quite a few times before it
becomes part of themselves OK

506
00:36:34,080 –> 00:36:36,320
all right, so this is all on
tape.

507
00:36:36,400 –> 00:36:41,680
Isn’t fellas, it’s all on tape.
OK, but let’s.

508
00:36:41,680 –> 00:36:45,880
Pick up the flow of thought.
Well, maybe you can just do the

509
00:36:45,880 –> 00:36:50,480
pencil changes.
We need to change verse 21.

510
00:36:50,480 –> 00:36:53,120
It says, but now the
righteousness.

511
00:36:53,720 –> 00:36:58,000
Let’s change that to, but now a
righteousness.

512
00:36:58,080 –> 00:37:03,680
Can you do that and do exactly
the same in verse 22, Even the

513
00:37:03,680 –> 00:37:07,560
righteousness?
Should be even a righteousness.

514
00:37:13,850 –> 00:37:16,290
So we’re we’ve got this a
righteousness.

515
00:37:16,290 –> 00:37:20,650
It’s referring to God’s method
of making new righteous.

516
00:37:21,770 –> 00:37:24,490
OK.
It’s not referring to God’s

517
00:37:24,490 –> 00:37:29,080
personal righteousness.
But both meanings occur

518
00:37:29,080 –> 00:37:33,440
continuously throughout these
verses, right in the beginning

519
00:37:33,440 –> 00:37:38,560
of chapter 3 on the whole issue
in chapter 3 is about whether

520
00:37:38,560 –> 00:37:41,040
God’s righteous and how you can
become righteous.

521
00:37:41,040 –> 00:37:43,760
That’s the whole subject.
OK.

522
00:37:46,480 –> 00:37:50,120
And if we had time, we’d do the
whole chapter that better.

523
00:37:50,120 –> 00:37:53,880
Alan can do that with you right
now.

524
00:37:53,880 –> 00:37:57,160
The other little things I
suggest with your pencil you

525
00:37:57,160 –> 00:37:59,680
don’t have to do.
You just do it if it suits you.

526
00:38:00,120 –> 00:38:03,160
OK, you’ve got the three that
matter.

527
00:38:04,720 –> 00:38:06,520
OK, you’ve got the three that
matter.

528
00:38:06,520 –> 00:38:12,840
The one in chapter 1 and the 2
here in in those two verses 21

529
00:38:13,120 –> 00:38:15,600
and 22.
If you’ve changed into a.

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00:38:15,800 –> 00:38:18,320
Righteousness.
A righteousness you.

531
00:38:18,560 –> 00:38:22,160
That’s enough.
But just for the advanced

532
00:38:22,160 –> 00:38:25,800
student, keep your pencil going
and we can get some other

533
00:38:25,800 –> 00:38:28,560
points, but this is not
essential for you fellas.

534
00:38:28,680 –> 00:38:32,760
You try and get the basics.
OK, verse, you’re ready.

535
00:38:32,760 –> 00:38:37,920
Verse 19 for we know that is we
perceive that whatsoever things

536
00:38:38,160 –> 00:38:45,800
the law says, put a tick over
the Jamin.

537
00:38:46,440 –> 00:38:53,200
What’s the definite article?
Did you do your high school

538
00:38:53,200 –> 00:38:58,080
certificate or did you just do
year 10?

539
00:38:58,280 –> 00:39:01,640
He only went to year 10 and you
don’t know what the definite

540
00:39:01,640 –> 00:39:04,040
article is.
He doesn’t know what the

541
00:39:04,040 –> 00:39:05,800
definite.
I’ll tell you what, you’ve got

542
00:39:05,800 –> 00:39:08,000
to mate.
You’re going to mate.

543
00:39:09,040 –> 00:39:10,720
In fact, I think you’ve got a
lot of them.

544
00:39:12,680 –> 00:39:14,640
You don’t know what the definite
article is.

545
00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:18,720
The definite article.
I’m just trying to think of his

546
00:39:18,720 –> 00:39:19,920
name.
Nutter.

547
00:39:19,920 –> 00:39:22,960
What’s his first name?
Chris.

548
00:39:23,480 –> 00:39:27,560
Chris Nutter has done his high
school certificate, done all

549
00:39:27,560 –> 00:39:30,360
that, and he’s sitting right
down the front row at the school

550
00:39:30,360 –> 00:39:32,680
of the Prophet.
And I’m saying to him now you’ve

551
00:39:32,880 –> 00:39:35,000
you’ve got your high school
certificate.

552
00:39:35,000 –> 00:39:38,760
Yes, yes, I said, and yeah,
you’re an electrician, so yeah,

553
00:39:38,920 –> 00:39:40,520
you’ve got a.
So what’s the death?

554
00:39:40,520 –> 00:39:41,840
An article, he said, I don’t
know.

555
00:39:41,840 –> 00:39:47,560
OK, OK.
The definite article.

556
00:39:48,520 –> 00:39:52,160
It’s the word the.
Got it.

557
00:39:53,240 –> 00:39:55,720
You only have my grants and
misfortune, not a crime.

558
00:39:55,720 –> 00:39:57,960
And, you know, just don’t take
it serious.

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00:39:58,520 –> 00:40:05,240
The indefinite article is I I is
it?

560
00:40:07,000 –> 00:40:08,760
OK, it’s definite.
Definite.

561
00:40:08,960 –> 00:40:11,520
Got it.
You got it.

562
00:40:11,520 –> 00:40:15,400
Oh, you knew that, Pete.
You’ve been through this before,

563
00:40:15,400 –> 00:40:20,240
haven’t you?
Or didn’t I ask that before you

564
00:40:20,240 –> 00:40:22,680
tell your girlfriend that?
OK, All right.

565
00:40:23,520 –> 00:40:26,520
All right.
She’s she’s not a patch on you,

566
00:40:26,520 –> 00:40:28,920
mate.
OK, Right.

567
00:40:30,320 –> 00:40:33,600
So put a tick over that first
one.

568
00:40:34,080 –> 00:40:38,400
Now, we know that whatsoever
things that law said, it’s said

569
00:40:38,400 –> 00:40:41,800
to them that are under the law.
Yeah.

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00:40:41,800 –> 00:40:45,880
Tick that one.
All right.

571
00:40:46,440 –> 00:40:54,360
So the Jews, they were under the
law and the law here is Speaking

572
00:40:54,360 –> 00:41:00,600
of the law of Moses.
OK, but the term the law can

573
00:41:00,600 –> 00:41:05,640
mean the law of Moses, or can
mean the first five books, or

574
00:41:05,640 –> 00:41:09,640
can mean the whole Old Testament
or can simply mean.

575
00:41:09,880 –> 00:41:14,800
The Word of God.
OK, so the term the law is very

576
00:41:14,800 –> 00:41:19,520
general, can refer just to the
law of Moses, refer to the

577
00:41:19,520 –> 00:41:22,960
Pentateuch, can refer to the
whole Old Testament.

578
00:41:23,280 –> 00:41:26,960
It can actually refer to the
whole Bible just called the law.

579
00:41:27,280 –> 00:41:34,000
OK, But we find later that the
word that is dropped in some

580
00:41:34,000 –> 00:41:37,720
places and where it’s dropped,
the emphasis is?

581
00:41:37,840 –> 00:41:45,600
The Law of Moses has equity law.
In principle, the Law of Moses

582
00:41:45,600 –> 00:41:49,520
was more than law, but law.
It was revelation, it was

583
00:41:49,520 –> 00:41:52,840
excitation, it was prophecy, it
was all sorts of things.

584
00:41:52,840 –> 00:41:57,440
It was history.
But as a covenant, it was law.

585
00:41:58,280 –> 00:42:04,960
And law is strict equity.
If you do that, this is what you

586
00:42:04,960 –> 00:42:08,040
get.
If you commit adultery, not

587
00:42:08,080 –> 00:42:11,320
forgiveness, you’d be put to
death, OK.

588
00:42:11,320 –> 00:42:15,880
And if if one of the young
fellows, if a 14 year old or 15

589
00:42:15,880 –> 00:42:19,240
year old plays up, he really
plays up as a drunkard and drugs

590
00:42:19,240 –> 00:42:22,080
and so on and so on.
He had to take him to the elders

591
00:42:22,080 –> 00:42:24,800
and say you can’t do anything
with him and he had to take him

592
00:42:24,800 –> 00:42:33,000
out and everyone’s to stone him.
If anyone actually OK, the law

593
00:42:33,000 –> 00:42:37,600
was saying what you deserve, OK,
David should have been put to

594
00:42:37,600 –> 00:42:41,040
death with his Summa Bathsheba.
That’s equity.

595
00:42:42,080 –> 00:42:46,560
He wasn’t OK.
That law is equity.

596
00:42:47,240 –> 00:42:54,240
The Jew said OK and he’s using
in their sense earning equity.

597
00:42:54,520 –> 00:42:59,120
So when the drops off, the
emphasis is strong on the law,

598
00:43:01,080 –> 00:43:05,480
strict equity, the message.
Can you follow that?

599
00:43:09,360 –> 00:43:16,000
It’s all on type verse 19, that
every mouth may be stopped and

600
00:43:16,000 –> 00:43:20,000
that all the world, June Jindal
might become guilty before God.

601
00:43:20,280 –> 00:43:24,960
That was the purpose of the law,
to make the whole world guilty

602
00:43:24,960 –> 00:43:28,200
before God.
He wants to conclude everyone

603
00:43:28,200 –> 00:43:30,960
under sin, that he might have
mercy on all.

604
00:43:30,960 –> 00:43:33,320
That’s just God’s business.
It’s his method.

605
00:43:33,560 –> 00:43:37,360
He’s made a subject of vanity,
not willingly, but by reason of

606
00:43:37,360 –> 00:43:39,760
humour, subjected the same in
hope.

607
00:43:40,600 –> 00:43:42,960
That’s our position.
We didn’t ask to be born the way

608
00:43:42,960 –> 00:43:44,800
we are, but we’re born the way
we are.

609
00:43:45,400 –> 00:43:48,880
And He’s given U.S. law to teach
us what we are, that we’re

610
00:43:48,880 –> 00:43:52,360
sinners, but we might all become
guilty before God.

611
00:43:53,400 –> 00:43:59,680
Verse 20 Therefore by deeds of
law cross out the the by deeds

612
00:43:59,800 –> 00:44:03,160
of.
Law, which was the Jewish view.

613
00:44:04,640 –> 00:44:09,800
Deeds of law, works of law earn
earn righteousness right by

614
00:44:09,800 –> 00:44:14,800
deeds of law shall no flesh be
justified in his sight?

615
00:44:15,360 –> 00:44:20,160
And that last phrase, no flesh
be justified or righteous fide

616
00:44:21,080 –> 00:44:24,840
shall no flesh be pronounced
righteous in his sight or

617
00:44:24,840 –> 00:44:29,960
righteous Fie.
And that’s actually in the

618
00:44:29,960 –> 00:44:36,440
margin there against you’ll see
some. 143 verse 2.

619
00:44:36,960 –> 00:44:41,560
He’s actually quoting that in
Psalm 143, verse 2, the

620
00:44:41,560 –> 00:44:47,440
expression Shall no flesh be a
righteous fight in his sight.

621
00:44:48,760 –> 00:45:02,280
For by law epigmosis, the
acknowledgement of sin, the full

622
00:45:02,280 –> 00:45:07,600
knowledge, sometimes translated
acknowledgement of sin.

623
00:45:08,520 –> 00:45:13,480
It’s a knowledge is can be a
theoretical knowledge, but when

624
00:45:13,480 –> 00:45:17,320
you actually experience that
knowledge in practice becomes

625
00:45:17,440 –> 00:45:22,800
EPI gnosis, it becomes a
knowledge born of from

626
00:45:22,800 –> 00:45:26,360
experience.
I mean, when you go to tech,

627
00:45:27,040 –> 00:45:31,280
they teach you certain things.
You go into the exchange, they

628
00:45:31,280 –> 00:45:36,680
talk, oh, that’s what they meant
When you muck it up the first

629
00:45:36,680 –> 00:45:39,760
time and the second time and
then the boss says you mucked

630
00:45:39,760 –> 00:45:41,640
that up again, you had it and
eventually you get it right

631
00:45:42,080 –> 00:45:46,000
after you’ve done it becomes
second nature to you.

632
00:45:46,440 –> 00:45:50,280
You don’t even have to think
about what you learn at tech

633
00:45:50,280 –> 00:45:53,320
anymore.
Gnosis was what you learned at

634
00:45:53,320 –> 00:46:01,160
tech by putting you got to he
knows this you acknowledge it

635
00:46:01,200 –> 00:46:05,920
becomes a skill now I learned
how to experience by trying to

636
00:46:05,920 –> 00:46:09,000
keep the law of God that just
couldn’t do it and it just

637
00:46:09,000 –> 00:46:14,160
taught you from experience just
how big a Sinner we are get the

638
00:46:14,160 –> 00:46:17,200
message.
So that’s the purpose of the law

639
00:46:17,880 –> 00:46:19,760
equity.
That’s what equity is all about.

640
00:46:20,160 –> 00:46:23,640
All you ever learned from the
law is that you’re worthy of

641
00:46:23,640 –> 00:46:25,400
death, but the Jews couldn’t say
that now.

642
00:46:25,760 –> 00:46:30,800
As my acts of righteousness
exceeded my sins, as long as I

643
00:46:30,800 –> 00:46:37,000
had these five acts of righteous
and only two of sins, then

644
00:46:37,000 –> 00:46:41,040
equity says I’m in front and
therefore I’m earning salvation.

645
00:46:41,200 –> 00:46:44,520
OK the way they but we very
well.

646
00:46:44,560 –> 00:46:47,160
Paul’s are going to bounce that
against this.

647
00:46:47,640 –> 00:46:53,360
It says cursed as everyone that
continueth not in all things are

648
00:46:53,360 –> 00:46:55,400
written in the book of the law
to do them.

649
00:46:56,120 –> 00:47:00,640
It’s Laura, right and it’s
equity and and and the more of

650
00:47:00,640 –> 00:47:04,680
equity is sin.
Once and you’re out, you’re

651
00:47:04,680 –> 00:47:06,240
worthy of death.
That’s equity.

652
00:47:06,560 –> 00:47:11,200
Look at Adam, he said once
death, but they made the mistake

653
00:47:11,240 –> 00:47:14,640
had wrong doctrine about it.
Wrong doctrine leads to wrong

654
00:47:14,640 –> 00:47:17,000
action leads to wrong
motivation.

655
00:47:17,560 –> 00:47:22,760
They rely on the flesh that are
relying on their works.

656
00:47:23,280 –> 00:47:27,000
OK, wrong.
Wrong doctrine, wrong attitudes.

657
00:47:27,880 –> 00:47:29,800
And they lose the way of eternal
life.

658
00:47:32,400 –> 00:47:38,320
Verse 21 But now that is for the
coming of Christ, and the

659
00:47:38,320 –> 00:47:41,920
revelation of the gospel says,
But now.

660
00:47:42,200 –> 00:47:45,440
A.
Method of righteousness from God

661
00:47:46,560 –> 00:47:52,960
without law cross out of the
without law without strict

662
00:47:52,960 –> 00:47:59,720
equity is manifested.
I was witnessed by the law tick

663
00:47:59,840 –> 00:48:03,760
was witnessed by the law and the
prophets that is was witnessed

664
00:48:03,760 –> 00:48:07,640
by the whole Old Testament.
You go through all the Old

665
00:48:07,800 –> 00:48:11,680
Testament, you’ll find the
prophecies about this method of

666
00:48:12,520 –> 00:48:15,120
we can call it grace,
righteousness, if you.

667
00:48:15,120 –> 00:48:19,360
Like OK, this method of
righteousness by grace.

668
00:48:20,000 –> 00:48:23,080
It’s been talked about, right?
Through the Bible, even in the

669
00:48:23,080 –> 00:48:26,440
law of Moses was typified in a
million and one ways.

670
00:48:27,080 –> 00:48:30,960
And right from the very first
promise, God promised that he’d

671
00:48:30,960 –> 00:48:34,440
raise up a man who would
overcome and destroy the effects

672
00:48:34,440 –> 00:48:38,200
of the serpent’s temptation.
OK, it was a promise.

673
00:48:39,360 –> 00:48:42,040
OK, it’s grace.
It’s mercy.

674
00:48:42,640 –> 00:48:47,600
It’s not equity.
No one did anything to entitle

675
00:48:47,600 –> 00:48:55,480
them to that thing.
Verse 22, even a method of

676
00:48:55,480 –> 00:49:02,880
righteousness of God, which is
through faith that relates to

677
00:49:02,920 –> 00:49:06,640
Jesus Christ.
So it’s a method of

678
00:49:06,640 –> 00:49:10,080
righteousness witnessed in the
law, says verse 21.

679
00:49:10,840 –> 00:49:14,880
Verse 22 says it’s a God’s
method of righteousness, but

680
00:49:14,880 –> 00:49:17,080
it’s through.
Your faith.

681
00:49:17,840 –> 00:49:23,080
In what Jesus Christ did, and he
says, when it comes unto all

682
00:49:23,080 –> 00:49:26,840
that is due in general, and upon
all them, let faith.

683
00:49:27,320 –> 00:49:31,600
If there was such an English
word, I’m using faith as a verb

684
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:34,320
now, not as a noun to.
All them that.

685
00:49:34,320 –> 00:49:36,560
Faith.
They believe it to the point

686
00:49:36,840 –> 00:49:39,040
where it changes their direction
of life.

687
00:49:40,600 –> 00:49:43,480
And shouldn’t it?
Oh, we haven’t got that shot up

688
00:49:43,520 –> 00:49:46,720
now.
I mean, but you’ve got Christ

689
00:49:46,720 –> 00:49:49,000
crucified.
When you see what the crowd did

690
00:49:49,000 –> 00:49:51,000
to the glory.
Here’s the glory of God in their

691
00:49:51,000 –> 00:49:52,560
midst.
When you see what the crowd.

692
00:49:52,560 –> 00:49:56,480
Did to that and you realize that
you belong to the crowd once and

693
00:49:56,480 –> 00:50:00,040
now and again we seem to jump
back into the crowd every time

694
00:50:00,040 –> 00:50:06,320
we sin we actually the honor of
God OK so that’s how dreadful

695
00:50:06,520 –> 00:50:11,240
transgression is if you can if
you kind of.

696
00:50:11,240 –> 00:50:15,480
Realize how awful that is, and
yet how wonderful the mind of

697
00:50:15,480 –> 00:50:19,240
Christ was, all because He took
on board the divine mind

698
00:50:19,240 –> 00:50:22,800
Himself.
And if that won’t turn you

699
00:50:22,800 –> 00:50:26,880
around from chasing the life of
sin and relying on itself, to

700
00:50:26,880 –> 00:50:31,280
turning around to seeking after
God’s mind as a method of

701
00:50:31,280 –> 00:50:35,960
motivation, nothing will do it.
It’s supposed to.

702
00:50:36,520 –> 00:50:40,480
Turn everyone of you from your
iniquity.

703
00:50:41,080 –> 00:50:45,000
The very awareness of the
enormity of sin and the

704
00:50:45,000 –> 00:50:50,080
wonderfulness of God
manifestation should to good and

705
00:50:50,080 –> 00:50:52,200
honoured hearts.
It actually converts them.

706
00:50:53,040 –> 00:50:56,600
It converts them.
If I be lifted up, I’ll draw all

707
00:50:56,600 –> 00:50:58,760
men under me.
That is all that are intended to

708
00:50:58,760 –> 00:51:00,560
be saying the good and honest
heart.

709
00:51:03,600 –> 00:51:08,040
Verse 20.
Three says the reason why

710
00:51:08,040 –> 00:51:12,440
there’s this method of
righteousness from God and not

711
00:51:12,680 –> 00:51:20,720
by works of law is because all
have sinned, Jew and Gentile,

712
00:51:20,800 –> 00:51:25,880
they’ve all sinned and they’ve
all come short of the glory of

713
00:51:25,880 –> 00:51:29,080
God.
You cannot earn it.

714
00:51:30,120 –> 00:51:35,840
More is equity you can’t earn.
Righteousness.

715
00:51:35,840 –> 00:51:38,960
You can’t be pronounced
righteous by the God on the

716
00:51:38,960 –> 00:51:49,000
basis of equity.
Law can’t be done, OK, Because

717
00:51:49,000 –> 00:51:58,870
all of sin and come short of the
glory of God, OK, That was the

718
00:51:58,870 –> 00:52:06,360
easy part, OK.
Verse 24 Being righteous fired.

719
00:52:06,680 –> 00:52:10,960
If there was such an English
word being righteous fired, that

720
00:52:10,960 –> 00:52:14,000
is pronounced righteous freely
he.

721
00:52:14,600 –> 00:52:17,000
Is the God, and he pronounces
this Sinner.

722
00:52:17,000 –> 00:52:19,800
Here he pronounces him
righteous.

723
00:52:19,800 –> 00:52:25,440
Freely and freely is the exact
opposite to earning.

724
00:52:26,880 –> 00:52:31,360
It’s not unconditional, but free
is the opposite of earning.

725
00:52:31,680 –> 00:52:33,680
There’s.
No way you can earn a

726
00:52:33,680 –> 00:52:36,920
pronouncement of righteousness,
OK?

727
00:52:37,280 –> 00:52:43,720
It’s a free thing, being
righteous, fired freely by God’s

728
00:52:43,720 –> 00:52:50,400
grace or favor, unmerited favor.
It’s a matter of grace, OK, but

729
00:52:50,400 –> 00:52:54,120
it’s conditional.
It’s through the redemption that

730
00:52:54,120 –> 00:52:59,920
is in Christ Jesus.
It’s through the redemption that

731
00:52:59,920 –> 00:53:09,680
is in Christ Jesus.
I should have.

732
00:53:09,680 –> 00:53:19,600
Been turning these over
justified freely right through

733
00:53:19,600 –> 00:53:24,440
faith in his blood.
He is God’s grace in the form of

734
00:53:24,440 –> 00:53:27,400
justification or a pronouncement
of righteousness.

735
00:53:27,760 –> 00:53:29,800
It’s through and it means
through.

736
00:53:30,440 –> 00:53:34,440
It’s channelled through Christ
and it reaches the person who.

737
00:53:34,440 –> 00:53:38,680
Fights.
OK, who believes what Christ

738
00:53:38,920 –> 00:53:43,200
crucified was all about?
It’s a free thing.

739
00:53:44,080 –> 00:53:46,360
It’s not unconditional, but it’s
not earned.

740
00:53:46,360 –> 00:53:48,760
It’s free in the sense of not
earned.

741
00:54:12,360 –> 00:54:18,760
I’m missing something here Child
or something turn 2 pages.

742
00:54:25,070 –> 00:54:28,110
Yes, through the red, that’s the
one I missed, wasn’t through the

743
00:54:28,110 –> 00:54:31,350
redemption that is in Christ
Jesus.

744
00:54:31,790 –> 00:54:34,870
So it’s conditional, it’s free,
but it’s conditional.

745
00:54:35,550 –> 00:54:38,830
There is a redemption.
And it’s actually in Christ

746
00:54:38,830 –> 00:54:40,590
Jesus.
He actually possesses it.

747
00:54:42,150 –> 00:54:46,920
He’s actually gone before.
And obtain personal redemption.

748
00:54:49,640 –> 00:54:51,520
He’s the first fruits of them
that sleep.

749
00:54:51,520 –> 00:54:54,640
First Corinthians 15.
He’s the first fruits of God’s

750
00:54:54,640 –> 00:54:58,040
method of salvation.
He’s the first one that walked

751
00:54:58,040 –> 00:55:00,160
the path perfectly and
completely.

752
00:55:00,840 –> 00:55:03,240
Others had walked before him,
but they’d never completed.

753
00:55:03,240 –> 00:55:06,880
It they couldn’t get past
remember those earlier charts on

754
00:55:06,880 –> 00:55:08,680
the Gap?
They couldn’t get past

755
00:55:08,680 –> 00:55:12,280
temptation and death.
Christ did, and he’s held a

756
00:55:12,280 –> 00:55:16,840
complete right.
And in Christ we have a perfect

757
00:55:17,280 –> 00:55:22,480
manifestation of salvation from
being a man right to become an

758
00:55:22,480 –> 00:55:27,080
immortal man.
OK, so it’s a redemption that he

759
00:55:27,080 –> 00:55:32,960
has in himself, who by his own
blood entered once into the the

760
00:55:33,200 –> 00:55:37,000
holy place, having obtained
eternal redemption.

761
00:55:38,400 –> 00:55:40,960
The forest shouldn’t be there.
That means he had.

762
00:55:41,360 –> 00:55:45,680
It in himself.
But he did obtain it in himself

763
00:55:46,280 –> 00:55:48,000
God gave the privilege to
actually.

764
00:55:48,000 –> 00:55:51,400
Share it on certain conditions
he had to if he.

765
00:55:51,400 –> 00:55:53,600
Hadn’t obtained personal
redemption.

766
00:55:54,520 –> 00:55:56,120
He couldn’t share it with
anybody.

767
00:55:57,000 –> 00:55:59,800
OK, so he obtained personal
redemption.

768
00:56:00,080 –> 00:56:06,160
Redemption that salvation on how
that refers to purchasing a

769
00:56:06,160 –> 00:56:10,240
slave, but using in the general
sense the salvation that’s

770
00:56:10,240 –> 00:56:14,680
actually embodied in Christ
Jesus because perfectly though

771
00:56:14,680 –> 00:56:18,880
he was a son, he emptied his off
been found in fashion of Manning

772
00:56:18,880 –> 00:56:22,000
humiliate himself became
obedient under the death of the

773
00:56:22,000 –> 00:56:26,520
cross wherefore God highly.
Exhorted him, OK, so he’s

774
00:56:26,520 –> 00:56:30,440
redeemed, but he’s redeemed par
excellence.

775
00:56:30,960 –> 00:56:36,480
John 526 says God’s passed all
judgement over to me.

776
00:56:37,360 –> 00:56:41,600
He’s also passed over to me the
power to to raise the dead and

777
00:56:41,600 –> 00:56:44,720
give them eternal life as the
Father hath life in himself,

778
00:56:45,080 –> 00:56:47,360
saith He given the Son to have
life in himself.

779
00:56:47,680 –> 00:56:53,960
So he’s embodied in Jesus Christ
because he was the one, the way

780
00:56:53,960 –> 00:56:59,480
of eternal life, perfectly OK.
He gave him the ability, this

781
00:56:59,480 –> 00:57:03,880
redemption in such a way that
enabled him to actually share it

782
00:57:04,880 –> 00:57:09,040
with those who might be able to
walk it as perfectly as he did.

783
00:57:09,080 –> 00:57:12,360
But make that endeavour and
believe that Christ did it

784
00:57:12,360 –> 00:57:16,800
perfectly and use the same
methods and use the forgiveness

785
00:57:16,800 –> 00:57:19,240
that comes because he had
vindicated God.

786
00:57:19,680 –> 00:57:25,840
OK to use that forgiveness along
with the method God let’s Christ

787
00:57:25,840 –> 00:57:29,960
share his own personal
redemption with them the same as

788
00:57:29,960 –> 00:57:33,760
God shared his own immortality
with Jesus Christ.

789
00:57:35,400 –> 00:57:38,680
It’s amazing concept.
Try and catch it.

790
00:57:39,680 –> 00:57:42,520
Very different than Jews.
We’re keeping a set of rules to

791
00:57:42,520 –> 00:57:45,720
earn eternal life.
God owes you to you to give it

792
00:57:45,720 –> 00:57:48,480
to you.
You earn it, you know, so you

793
00:57:48,480 –> 00:57:54,880
know, that’s Roman’s chapter.
If if the if the reward is is by

794
00:57:54,880 –> 00:57:59,360
works, then it’s of debt.
God owes it to you and Abraham

795
00:57:59,360 –> 00:58:01,880
never got it his righteousness
by death.

796
00:58:01,880 –> 00:58:07,680
It says Abraham believe God and
that was accounted to him for

797
00:58:07,680 –> 00:58:11,120
righteousness.
OK, and that’s another key verse

798
00:58:11,120 –> 00:58:13,120
that Romans 4.
I think it’s verse three or

799
00:58:13,120 –> 00:58:17,440
something that shows the Jewish
attitude in the background.

800
00:58:19,880 –> 00:58:24,360
So we’re justified freely by the
redemption that’s embodied in

801
00:58:24,360 –> 00:58:29,600
Christ Jesus.
OK, there’s hands of fellowship.

802
00:58:29,600 –> 00:58:33,840
When you shake somebody hand at
the meeting, you’re indicating

803
00:58:34,040 –> 00:58:36,160
you you’re both sharing the one
hope.

804
00:58:36,560 –> 00:58:39,440
You’re both sharing with God and
you’re sharing with each other

805
00:58:39,640 –> 00:58:44,120
the one thing even in business
and that you shake someone hand,

806
00:58:44,120 –> 00:58:47,200
that’s a sharing of of
confidence in each other for

807
00:58:47,200 –> 00:58:50,560
business purposes or whatever.
OK, there’s a sharing idea.

808
00:58:50,800 –> 00:58:54,840
The word fellowship actually
means sharing and in John

809
00:58:54,840 –> 00:58:58,160
chapter one it talks about how
we have fellowship with God.

810
00:58:58,560 –> 00:59:00,080
We have fellowship with each
other.

811
00:59:00,320 –> 00:59:02,360
The blood of Christ cleanse us
from all sin.

812
00:59:02,640 –> 00:59:06,960
They make sharing God’s purpose
is all about sharing himself

813
00:59:07,480 –> 00:59:10,160
with His people, his sons and
daughters, and he does it

814
00:59:10,160 –> 00:59:13,160
through Christ by letting Christ
share what He is.

815
00:59:13,680 –> 00:59:16,360
Behold on the children who go
and give the doctrine of

816
00:59:16,360 –> 00:59:19,040
sharing.
It’s a very important doctrine

817
00:59:19,080 –> 00:59:21,240
and it’s laid out by Brother
Roberts.

818
00:59:21,240 –> 00:59:26,960
OK, I suppose it’s another way
of saying, however, however,

819
00:59:26,960 –> 00:59:31,280
it’s another way of saying that
it’s a matter of grace and there

820
00:59:31,320 –> 00:59:33,160
has to be the element of
forgiveness.

821
00:59:33,680 –> 00:59:38,480
But in the end, God’s sharing
and Christ sharing with you what

822
00:59:38,480 –> 00:59:41,200
He is.
It’s a beautiful concept, right?

823
00:59:45,120 –> 00:59:51,960
We share Christ’s victory over
sin We’re we’re being able to be

824
00:59:51,960 –> 00:59:56,040
presented before the presence of
his glory, faultless with

825
00:59:56,040 –> 01:00:00,680
exceeding joy.
That can’t be understood except

826
01:00:00,680 –> 01:00:05,040
on the basis that it’s a mixture
of manifesting God and being

827
01:00:05,040 –> 01:00:07,640
forgiven.
It’s a mixture, isn’t it right.

828
01:00:07,960 –> 01:00:10,360
The righteousness of God is a is
a mixture.

829
01:00:10,360 –> 01:00:14,720
Repentance means that the.
The the truth of God’s got into

830
01:00:14,720 –> 01:00:16,760
your mind.
There is real God’s

831
01:00:16,760 –> 01:00:18,640
righteousness an element of it
in there.

832
01:00:18,640 –> 01:00:24,280
You know so that’s the beginning
of God manifestation in you

833
01:00:24,840 –> 01:00:29,160
right and be baptized for
remission of sins and for

834
01:00:29,160 –> 01:00:31,360
remission of sins.
You need that ongoing all the

835
01:00:31,360 –> 01:00:35,040
time for David baptism on OK and
you’ll receive the gift of the

836
01:00:35,040 –> 01:00:39,280
Holy Spirit means God will help
you from there on OK, I mean the

837
01:00:39,280 –> 01:00:43,920
Holy Spirit they we haven’t got
it today in the powerful but 99%

838
01:00:43,920 –> 01:00:46,280
of the Holy Spirit was always
ever used for writing the

839
01:00:46,280 –> 01:00:48,160
scriptures.
The scriptures are called the

840
01:00:48,160 –> 01:00:52,040
Holy Spirit and instead of the
New Testament they had spirit

841
01:00:52,040 –> 01:00:54,960
and the elders that have to get
up and speak the things you read

842
01:00:54,960 –> 01:00:56,720
in the New Testament until it
was written.

843
01:00:57,040 –> 01:00:59,120
So we’ve got the Holy Spirit
there it is on your left.

844
01:00:59,760 –> 01:01:02,120
There’s nothing greater than the
mind of God.

845
01:01:02,840 –> 01:01:05,280
I mean Balaam had the physical
power of God.

846
01:01:05,280 –> 01:01:07,720
We didn’t have the mind of God
didn’t do him any good, did it?

847
01:01:08,080 –> 01:01:11,680
You can’t go higher than taken
on board the mind of God.

848
01:01:11,680 –> 01:01:13,920
I think we’ve said that many
times you can’t go higher than

849
01:01:13,920 –> 01:01:26,670
that.
All right in Christ Jesus and

850
01:01:26,670 –> 01:01:34,030
later on are taken from Isaiah
4524 and 25 which I don’t know

851
01:01:34,470 –> 01:01:37,790
that we’ve got time to look at
which 5 minutes to go.

852
01:01:38,510 –> 01:01:45,120
OK, it looks like we’re not
going to do it finish tonight.

853
01:01:45,120 –> 01:01:50,760
That’s a pity isn’t it
Redemption is in Christ Jesus

854
01:01:57,240 –> 01:01:59,640
can’t be done.
Sorry we’re not going to finish

855
01:01:59,640 –> 01:02:02,800
it tonight.
I I purposely jumped forward so

856
01:02:02,800 –> 01:02:05,280
we do all Romans 3 in those
verses.

857
01:02:05,800 –> 01:02:08,640
We just can’t do it.
We’re we’re going on to the most

858
01:02:08,640 –> 01:02:12,880
complex is whom God has set
forth to be of appreciation.

859
01:02:13,320 –> 01:02:20,120
OK, any of you boys know what a
propitiation is?

860
01:02:24,400 –> 01:02:28,680
Mercy seat?
Yeah, it’s a propitiatory place.

861
01:02:29,480 –> 01:02:35,280
It’s only used twice here and in
Hebrews 9 where it’s translated

862
01:02:35,280 –> 01:02:39,200
mercy seat.
OK, what was the mercy seat?

863
01:02:39,200 –> 01:02:43,400
The mercy seat was the place.
It was a caporeth.

864
01:02:43,840 –> 01:02:47,840
See the lid on top of the ark,
the two Caribbean, the glory,

865
01:02:48,240 –> 01:02:50,720
and that high priest had to go
in once a year and sprinkle with

866
01:02:50,720 –> 01:02:53,840
blood.
It was the place of forgiveness.

867
01:02:55,200 –> 01:02:57,840
OK, the place of forgiveness,
Hitler.

868
01:02:57,840 –> 01:03:01,320
Sterion actually means the place
of favor.

869
01:03:02,360 –> 01:03:07,640
So in the Hebrew it’s the place
covering Caporeth, here it’s the

870
01:03:07,640 –> 01:03:09,480
place of favour.
No difference.

871
01:03:10,320 –> 01:03:14,840
OK, so Christ is set forth as.
The.

872
01:03:14,840 –> 01:03:19,320
Place of favour, God says, I’ll
meet you there.

873
01:03:20,280 –> 01:03:25,080
I’ll meet you at Christ
crucified, I’ll meet you at what

874
01:03:25,080 –> 01:03:27,840
he was declaring.
I’ll meet you at that

875
01:03:27,840 –> 01:03:32,200
demonstration of certain facts.
I’ll meet you at you believing

876
01:03:32,560 –> 01:03:36,800
what those facts were.
If it’s changed your direction

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01:03:36,800 –> 01:03:41,520
of life, that’s where I’ll meet
you, and that’s where I’ll

878
01:03:41,520 –> 01:03:43,400
forgive you.
OK.

879
01:03:43,720 –> 01:03:46,360
But we’ll run over that again on
the next time.

880
01:03:46,480 –> 01:03:47,560
Thank you, Andrew.