Class 2 from this series was used for GCT Episode 251
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Well, good morning.
A little bit more awkward on
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Sunday morning, isn’t it?
Good morning, my dear brother
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and sisters.
This is the 4th class this
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weekend.
In some ways I think
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unfortunately it’s the most
difficult say that because you
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know, it really took me, it
really took me a long time to
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get my head around the subject
we’re going to.
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Addressed this morning.
And sometimes you think to
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yourself as as clear as God’s
where it is that sometimes that
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he hasn’t made my mind very
clear.
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And so I struggle to impart to
you some of the things which I
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think are in the word of God
here.
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But fortunately, it’s not about
me, it’s not about you.
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We’re just going to read God’s
words together and try to gain
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some spiritual lesson from them.
And I hope.
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But leaves you with something
meaningful and helpful this
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morning is you prepare to
partake of the bread and the
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wine.
And as you recall from last
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night that we left on a little
bit of a cliffhanger.
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And I guess we did that on
purpose, not because we did,
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because Paul did.
And the end of verse four of
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Romans chapter 8.
Paul.
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Leaves us with these words.
He talks about these wonderful
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blessings that we have in Christ
Jesus.
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Aren’t they wonderful and.
And and the blessings include
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this idea that there’s no
condemnation for those who are
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in Christ Jesus.
And we discussed just what a
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beautiful idea that is, and how
when all we see is the mercies
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of Christ that separate us even
from death itself, that that
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those words are so precious to
us.
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And and yet these wonderful
blessings seem to contend to
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have some.
Hanging on on what it means to
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be in Christ Jesus.
And and Paul leaves with this
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word in verse four.
And the word is that this
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blessing, as wonderful as it is,
is for those who walk not after
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the flesh, but after the Spirit.
And as you recall, I had you cut
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out your pencils, and I had you
underline the word who, because
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that’s kind of a rather
important word, wouldn’t you
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say?
Given that we all want to
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participate in these blessings.
And so and so Paul, I think, I
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think Paul recognizes for
himself that there’s a tension
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in that word.
There’s a tension in that
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statement.
Who walk after the spirit?
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Well, who are these that walk
after the spirit?
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How do I do that?
What does that mean?
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And so Paul’s going to dedicate
himself in the next 5 to 6
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verses.
And really trying to explain for
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us what does it mean who are
these people who walk after the
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Spirit?
And he feels the tension in that
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statement.
So to resolve the tension for
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for himself and for us, he
explains what he means.
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And starting in Romans 8 and
verse five and six and I’m going
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to read now the out of the Rs.
V for those who live.
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According to the flesh, they set
their minds on the things of the
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flesh.
But those who live?
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According to the Spirit.
To set their minds on the things
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of the Spirit.
To set the mind on the flesh is
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death, but to set the mind on
the Spirit is life and it’s
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peace.
Now the King James just has the
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word mind, but the RSV really
uses that word, set thy mind,
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and that’s important.
We’ll get back to that in a
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second, but it seems to me that
if we’re going to understand
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anything about Romans chapter 8
and verses 5 through 11, we
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really have to get our minds.
Around these words spirit and
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flesh and and and the word mind
itself.
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And what do we what do we make
of these words?
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Not that we want to define them
because Scripture to find some
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force, but but you know those
words can mean different things
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to different people in this
audience and so we have to get
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to a common maybe a common
understanding what Paul’s really
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talking about when he uses these
words.
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So so to begin with what does
the word mind mean?
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Well, following the The Revised
Standard Version, the mind is
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something that can be set.
That’s quite important because
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it relates to your thoughts.
Basically things that have this
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obvious element of choice to
them.
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Now, now, that may be in
contrast to something like
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feelings.
Actually, you can’t set your
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feelings very often, you just
have them.
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You don’t choose your feelings.
Those who might be afraid of
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something, like heights, they
don’t choose to be afraid of
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heights.
They don’t want to be afraid of
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heights.
They just are.
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So feelings can often not be
set.
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But your mind, whatever the mind
is in these verses, there’s this
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obvious element of choice of
these words, and that matters.
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So our mind is something here
which we have some control over.
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You can control what you think
about and what actions you take,
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but then what is flesh?
The first thing we observe about
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flesh, it really isn’t something
material, is it?
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Flesh doesn’t refer to the skin
and the muscle and the bones in
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our hands and our arms, and but
it refers to the way the flesh
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expresses itself, its desires
and its wants.
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The attitude of the flesh.
And that was our focus from
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yesterday.
But what is the spirit?
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Seems quite important, doesn’t
it?
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Because this word spirit comes
up 22 times in this chapter.
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The word spirit comes up 22
times.
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Brother Stevens, would you think
it’s quite important that we
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figure out what that word means?
I reckon, yeah.
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He agrees.
So even our presiding brother
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thinks that’s the case.
So.
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And the spirit again is it’s one
of those Bible words, is it not?
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And it’s it’s a word that’s
commonly used in the Bible and
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it’s also commonly used today,
but it’s used in different
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contexts now.
So what does the what does the
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spirit mean?
Now, unfortunately, we can’t
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look out the window because all
we see is this Gray, foggy
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stuff.
And that’s killing me because
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it’s hurting my point.
But if we were to look out the
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window, we were to see the trees
and we’d see the trees moving.
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But what’s causing those trees
to move?
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Well, the wind would be causing
the trees to move, of course,
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but can you see the wind?
So what the spirit is?
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Is a spirit stood for things in
the Bible that have power where
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the evidence or the effect of
the power can be seen, but which
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the agent of the power cannot be
seen.
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And that I don’t know if that
clarified anything.
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So let me say it again.
Spirit stands for things that
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have power.
Where we can see the effect, we
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just can’t see the agent.
And if you see the wind blowing
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as a tree, you see the effect of
the wind on the tree, because
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the tree moves and see you see
the tree moving, but you don’t
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see what’s making the tree move.
And so the ancients called Wind
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spirit.
What else has power that can’t
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be seen well in a live person,
for example, now if I had a dead
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person and a live person, right?
That’d be pretty spooky,
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wouldn’t it?
But if I had a dead person and
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an alive person right here in
the floor in front of me?
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They look awfully similar,
wouldn’t they?
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I mean the dead person, the live
person, they they both have
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hands and feet and and faces and
hair, and they’d have all many
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of the same parts, In fact, all
the same parts.
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In fact, they’d be made of the
same stuff.
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They’d be made of the hydrogen
and the carbon and the and the
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oxygen, and it had all the same
parts and and they’d be made of
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the same things.
But there’d be one difference
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between the two if I told the
live person to.
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This delay, there very still
will be.
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The difference is that you’d see
in that live person the chests
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go up and down, up and down.
It’d be the only noticeable
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difference between the two,
perhaps, and that live person
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would be breathing, and that
thing can be thought of as
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breath and alive people breathe.
They can’t see the air they
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breathe, but without the air
it’s obvious that they die.
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And so the ancients called
breath that invisible thing that
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seems to make alive people
alive.
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Without it, people die.
They call that spirit.
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It’s also clear that a lot
people can think, no, no one can
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see your thoughts.
I mean I can look in in the
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audience and I see some blank
stares.
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I see some people that look
confused and.
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I can see some people that look
bored and some people that look
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amused.
So I can maybe maybe try to read
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your thoughts from your from
your, from your face.
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But I could be getting this
totally wrong.
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So I can’t see your thoughts per
se.
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But thoughts are quite powerful,
aren’t they?
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I mean, how motivating are your
thoughts?
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They can think your thoughts can
take you in any any one of many
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different directions is based on
thoughts, but they can’t be
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seen.
But they’re very powerful.
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And so the ancients called.
Thoughts, Spirit.
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And there’s other examples for
that.
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For example, angels.
The work of the angels is
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somewhat obvious.
We see the angels working in our
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lives and and doing things that
may be on retrospect are quite
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clear.
But the time they aren’t.
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And the Bible we see the work of
the angels.
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They are always seen when
they’re working sometimes, but
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not often and and most often
they’re not seen at all, but
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they’re still working.
So.
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So we see the effect of the
angels work, we don’t see the
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angels themselves.
And so the angels are called
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spirit.
They’re calling ministering
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spirits.
But let’s get even more subtle,
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shall we?
What about words?
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So you can’t see the words as
they travel from my mouth
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through this microphone up into
the projection system.
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And they the sound waves bounce
off the different molecules in
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the air until they hit your
eardrum.
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You can’t see any of those
things.
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You can’t see, and I can’t see.
But words, words are really
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powerful, aren’t they?
You know, I’ll tell you how
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powerful words are.
I fell in love with my wife
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because she talked to me.
Not that she was the only one
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who had talked to me, but we
talked about things that I’m not
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going to talk to you about as it
should be.
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And.
Because we spoke and we talked
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so intimately that that’s why I
fell in love with her.
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And many of us who are married
will recognize that the reason
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we fell in love, whatever that
in love thing is, was probably
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not because of how nice looking
the person was.
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It’s probably because of the
quality and the depth of our
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discussions.
Of the words that passed between
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us.
And they weren’t just words,
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they were invisible, but somehow
they went inside of us to invoke
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within us.
Such a deep and powerful
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feeling.
Of love.
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It’s words.
And with my wife and I, she
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being in New Zealand and me
being in the United States, we
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didn’t even have Skype at the
time.
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In fact, for the first month or
so, I didn’t know what she
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looked like.
I was quite happy when I found
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out.
In fact, I called my dad right
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away and said, and she’s pretty
too dad.
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But I didn’t know what she
looked like at 1st and and so it
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was merely words.
It was all words.
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In fact, sometimes they weren’t
even spoken.
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Sometimes I just read them
through an e-mail.
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But but how powerful are words?
They’re invisible.
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But wouldn’t you admit that
they’re so powerful and you
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think about it?
Words have the power to save us
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words.
Words can give us life.
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If you hear the gospel message,
those invisible words which
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passed from the page, or for
someone’s lips into your ears,
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and you heard them, and you
believed them, and you knew
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them, and you confessed them
then, although no one can see
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it.
And although no one can point to
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the place where it’s recorded,
your name is now in the book of
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life because of words, because
you believe those words, because
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you knew those words.
So words in and of themselves
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are incredibly powerful things,
and I can’t see within you
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necessarily whether you believe.
Can’t see whether you know, but
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you know in, in and of yourself.
If the word of God has power
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within you because it changes
you, because you’re different.
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Why are you different?
Because you’ve heard some words
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and because you believe them.
And words become learning, and
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learning becomes faith and
faith.
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Supported by continue learning
and renewing grows into love and
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works and God provides that
believer life.
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And I hope that making this
association between words and
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spirit and learning in fact
demystifies this concept of
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spirit for us, because spirit
itself can be a very mysterious
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word, can it?
I mean, people talk about the
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Spirit.
What does it mean to have the
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Spirit?
And sometimes we wonder, can I
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participate in that?
Do I have the?
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Spirit is the spirit.
Working in me, is it?
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I don’t know.
You ask yourself that question.
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And and and the spirit.
The word seems so mysterious,
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and I want to demystify this
word.
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I never want spirit to be
mysterious.
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For you again.
Because this doesn’t have to be
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God doesn’t want it to be
mysterious for you.
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He wants you to understand it.
He wants you to know that you
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have it.
I want you to ask yourself the
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question, Am I any different as
a person because of what Jesus
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taught me?
And if so, would you deny that
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you have spirit?
Would you deny that the words of
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Christ are spirit?
Would you deny that you’ve come
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to know Jesus Christ, and that
Spirit has power in you to do
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things for which you would never
do of yourself?
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Nor do you have any inclination
except that which has been
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taught to you.
So you’re different, and so you
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have Spirit, and never deny it
and never forget it.
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In first John chapter 4 and
verse six we read we are of God.
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He that knoweth God heareth us.
He that knoweth God heareth us.
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He that is not of God heareth
not us.
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Hereby know we.
The Spirit of truth.
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So how do we know the spirit of
truth?
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Because of what you hear.
Because of what you know.
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Because of what you confess.
So spirit indicates and this is
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the word.
This is how John Carter in his
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book on the Romans, which is a
fantastic book, this is how he
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summarizes this word Spirit.
Spirit indicates a mental and a
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moral development through
hearing, learning, and faith in
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the Gospel.
Which has its ultimate source in
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God, who is Spirit and who’s
revealed it through His power,
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which is also called Spirit.
I think it’s a really good
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definition.
Now you think about Spirit and
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learning, and we think about the
gospel, don’t we?
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The gospel, which is the Spirit
word of God, Which is.
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The way that God is revealed to
us is truth in the gospel.
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And see how Paul speaks about
the gospel.
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In the first chapter of Romans
in verse 16, Paul says it’s
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about the gospel.
There Paul says I’m not ashamed
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of this gospel because, and this
is the word, what I want you to
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pay attention to, it’s quite
interesting.
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I’m not ashamed of the gospel.
It’s the power of God to
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salvation, everyone that has
faith.
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Why don’t you say the Holy
Spirit, The spirit was working
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out.
The salvation was working out.
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Salvation in us was, was, was
God through his power, His
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spirit is working out within us
and is calling people still to
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be saved, to know him, to
confess him that God is doing
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this through his spirit.
But Paul here says I’m not
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ashamed of the gospel, it’s the
power of God.
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So closely associated are these
things and tell me, does God
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have any power?
Does God’s Spirit have any power
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to save except through the
gospel?
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Can God save someone who has
never has any knowledge, or
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never comes to any knowledge of
the gospel?
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Can God choose to save someone
out there and choose to save
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them but never they come to a
knowledge of the gospel.
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He would not and he does not.
So how can God save through his
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spirit except through words?
I suppose he could, but he
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doesn’t.
So the gospel itself, Paul says,
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is the power of God.
It what gives God’s spirit
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power.
And God’s spirit is using the
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gospel as its means of saving.
And we can understand that the
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Gospels taught.
We can understand the Gospels
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learned.
We can understand the Gospels
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believed through the work of
God.
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And it becomes the power of God,
and it becomes that which in
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someone has the ability to save.
You know, in Elpas Israel,
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Doctor Thomas puts it like this.
He says where the truth takes
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possession of the sentiments,
where the truth takes possession
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of the sentiments.
Setting them like that word,
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setting, setting them to work,
and so forming the thoughts, it
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becomes a law of God to them,
which the Apostle Paul styles
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the law of his mind.
And because it is written there
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through the hearing of the law
and the testimony which came to
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the prophets.
Through the spirit he terms it
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the law of the spirit inscribed
on the fleshly tables of the
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heart, and the law of the spirit
of life, because while obeyed
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confers a right to life.
So Paul says set your mind on
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things of the spirit and the
spirit he’s think he’s speaking
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about.
Is that spiritual self which is
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fed by the word of God, the
gospel through which God
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exercises his power to save, and
through which God and Christ
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dwell in us and and and we can
understand this because we go to
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another verse in the Old
Testament.
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It seems totally clear to us,
does it not?
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In in Isaiah chapter 57 and
verse 15 we read that God dwells
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in a high in a holy place, but
also with him.
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Who is of a humble spirit, of a
contrite heart?
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And for some reason that’s
really not confusing to us, is
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it?
We can understand that like
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that.
If you, if you see one of a
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humble and a contrite heart
because of the word of God
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working in them, you said you
know what God God’s dwelling in
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that person, that they’re not of
a humble and a contrite heart.
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Nearly, because they were born
that way.
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But because they have yielded
themselves up to God and that
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God chooses to dwell with that
person.
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And that’s not hard to
understand, is it?
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We can understand that.
And and actually this is the
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meaning of Spirit.
And every time it’s found in
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verses 5 through 11, it’s the
same meaning every time.
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And so I think you actually know
what Spirit means.
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I actually think you can look
inside yourself right now, and I
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think you can find within
yourself that which is fed by
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the inspired truth of God.
I think you can find inside of
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yourself where your faith is.
I think you can find within
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yourself where the love of God
is.
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I think you can find within
yourself the part that’s humble,
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the part that’s kind, where
you’ve learned Christ, the part
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that doesn’t seek self.
Seeks the benefit of your
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brother and sisters.
The part that rejoices in what
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is good.
The part that rejoices in the
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will of the Lord.
The inner man fed by the Word
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that loves the Word.
And this is where God and Christ
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dwell within you.
This is the right Spirit that
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David asks God to restore within
him.
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This is the humble.
And contrite mind where God
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dwells, I think you know it if
you can find it within yourself.
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I think you know when it’s fed.
I think you know when it’s
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weakened.
I think you know that defeat it
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is to is to have life and to
weaken it is to find death.
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And it’s not hard to understand.
And strange as it sounds, even
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those with this spirit, as
amazing as the spirit is, they
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still struggle with the flesh.
See, the flesh doesn’t go away.
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Even if you have the spirit,
this flesh doesn’t go away and
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and beyond it not going away.
As if that isn’t bad enough.
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It’s just not satisfied.
And I remember finding great
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comfort, tremendous comfort.
In these words which don’t
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really appear to be that
comfortable in Romans 8 and
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verse 7.
And these words are there where
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we read because the carnal mind
is enmity, enmity against God,
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for it is not subject to the law
of God.
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Neither indeed can be.
You know, I remember back in the
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first study, right?
And I talked about the fact that
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I was in the missionary.
Field.
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And I was in the the Persian
Gulf, and that sounds like it
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should be scary, but it wasn’t
that scary.
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But.
Things were things were quite
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hard for my wife and I I
remember struggling with my
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feelings and money was really
tight and I was defrauded and I
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had some money stolen which I.
Thankfully got back, but only by
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working with a local lawyer and
I remember my wife struggling to
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get medical care and she had
diabetes and she was pregnant.
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I remember worrying about the
health of my child and we didn’t
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have an easy way to cook hot
food.
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And I just felt this pressure
inside of me and I I just felt
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this pressure and actually I
kind of felt like I wanted to
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give up and it was a very, very
selfish feeling.
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I remember feeling bad that had
the feeling.
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And how.
How awful is that?
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Not only do you have this bad
feeling, you feel bad that you
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have the bad feeling, right?
I thought to myself, I’m doing
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the Lord’s work.
Shouldn’t this be joy?
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Should not be rejoicing and
doing the Lord’s work?
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And sometimes you may have this,
sometimes you may not feel good
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coming to the meeting on Sunday.
Sometimes you may not feel good
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pulling at your Bible to do
readings.
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Sometimes you may not feel good
calling in at the hospital on
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this new couple with it, with
the twin children, you think,
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oh, I just have so many things
to do.
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I don’t have time to do this.
It doesn’t feel like a joy.
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You’re not rejoicing and you
feel bad that you feel bad and
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you think to yourself, like,
shouldn’t I feel joy?
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Should I feel joy in this?
And I was feeling guilty about
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these things.
I didn’t understand why I had to
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struggle against myself.
And I came across these verses
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and Romans.
And in my struggle, as I came
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across these verses and Romans,
I found tremendous relief.
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Do you know why?
Because there’s a part of me,
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and there’s a part of you that
will never be converted.
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You’ll never make it want to do
the will of God.
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It will always be selfish.
It will always be rebellious.
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And Paul calls that thing within
you the carnal mind.
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He says that it’s enmity with
God and in me.
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I could feel the carnal mind.
And at that time I realized.
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I simply need to accept there
was a part of me that would
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always want to rebel.
And by focusing on it and by
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feeling guilty about it, I was
just giving it life.
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I was making it stronger.
See, I was letting it convince
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me that I was a fraud, that I
was worthless.
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Look how Paul puts it.
In Romans 7, verse 25, thanks be
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to God through Jesus Christ our
Lord.
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So then I have myself serve the
law of God with my mind.
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But look at this a little bit
after that.
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But with my flesh I serve the
law of sin.
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And Paul realized the the
inevitability of this, that the
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flesh would not be converted.
It would always rebel.
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It wouldn’t always want to do
its own thing.
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It would always be selfish.
It’s not convertible.
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That’s why Jesus destroyed it.
That’s why he destroyed it,
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because his enmity with God and
he took that which of the
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himself was enmity with God and
it was nailed to the cross.
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So there is within you, and
there is within me that which is
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an enmity with God and will
never be converted.
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And Paul’s point is so beautiful
in its simplicity.
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You see, our struggle is not
trying to convert the carnal
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mind.
You’re not going to convert it.
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It’s not convertible.
We can’t.
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So what is our struggle?
Our struggle then, is choosing
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00:28:51,820 –> 00:28:57,510
to set our mind.
On the Spirit, and that we can
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00:28:57,510 –> 00:28:59,750
do.
And so Paul has done, is he’s
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00:28:59,750 –> 00:29:03,470
lifted the struggle from that
which is inevitable, which is
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00:29:03,470 –> 00:29:05,750
that you want to rebel.
That’s inevitable.
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00:29:06,870 –> 00:29:13,190
Everybody here wants to rebel.
And so he’s lifted the struggle
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00:29:13,270 –> 00:29:17,230
from that which is inevitable.
And he said no, no, no, it’s not
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00:29:17,230 –> 00:29:20,510
about that which is inevitable.
With my flesh.
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00:29:20,510 –> 00:29:24,940
I want to serve the law of sin.
He said, You know what?
447
00:29:25,100 –> 00:29:29,300
It’s not about that.
It’s about that which you have
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00:29:29,340 –> 00:29:35,100
choice over, and you choose to
set your mind on the things of
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00:29:35,100 –> 00:29:39,660
the Spirit, or you choose to set
your mind on the things of the
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00:29:39,660 –> 00:29:43,060
flesh.
And so that is not inevitable.
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00:29:43,940 –> 00:29:48,980
Desiring sin is inevitable.
The carnal mind within you is
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00:29:48,980 –> 00:29:51,580
inevitable.
It will not be converted.
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00:29:53,110 –> 00:29:56,830
But what’s not inevitable is
what you choose to set your mind
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00:29:56,830 –> 00:30:01,670
on.
So.
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00:30:02,350 –> 00:30:03,870
It’s really not about how you
feel.
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00:30:05,910 –> 00:30:07,830
It’s not not about doing what
you want.
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00:30:09,470 –> 00:30:12,510
It’s not a matter of following
the spirit because it feels
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00:30:12,510 –> 00:30:17,150
good, or doing what feels good,
or hoping that mission work
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00:30:17,150 –> 00:30:21,030
feels good, or hoping that
speaking to contacts feels good.
460
00:30:22,550 –> 00:30:26,630
It’s really not about what feels
good, it’s about what doings,
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00:30:26,630 –> 00:30:28,190
what about doing what’s.
Right.
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00:30:28,870 –> 00:30:30,430
About.
Choosing to set your mind on
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00:30:30,430 –> 00:30:34,670
things of the spirit which is
not inevitable, which is your
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area.
Of choice, but how?
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00:30:40,990 –> 00:30:44,070
How do we do it?
How do we set our mind on things
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00:30:44,070 –> 00:30:50,120
of the Spirit?
So how can you possibly hope to
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00:30:50,120 –> 00:30:52,640
put your mind on things of the
Spirit if you don’t know the
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00:30:52,640 –> 00:30:58,720
things of the Spirit?
As a teenager, teenager I
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00:30:58,720 –> 00:31:01,520
wondered if we’d always had to
do Bible classes all the time
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00:31:01,520 –> 00:31:05,360
during Cy, C’s and and lectures
and Sunday School and always
471
00:31:05,360 –> 00:31:07,360
reopen the Bible, the Bible, the
Bible, the Bible.
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00:31:07,480 –> 00:31:13,120
You know, I wonder if it was
just a matter of our elders who
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00:31:13,120 –> 00:31:15,760
wanting to torture teenagers or
something, you know, and
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00:31:17,040 –> 00:31:18,520
actually what our elders were
doing.
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00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:23,280
Is there a trying to get as much
of this in my mind as they
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00:31:23,320 –> 00:31:28,400
possibly could?
There’s something in here the
477
00:31:28,400 –> 00:31:32,800
fun and games can never give you
something here.
478
00:31:32,800 –> 00:31:37,160
So much more precious, so much
more meaningful.
479
00:31:38,400 –> 00:31:41,000
And it’s not that there’s words.
Those words mean nothing if not
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00:31:41,000 –> 00:31:44,760
believed, but they’re they’re
hoping that if you believe them,
481
00:31:45,720 –> 00:31:50,420
that they can give you a gift.
Which is so much more meaningful
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00:31:50,420 –> 00:31:52,300
than any fun and game not ever
could be.
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00:31:56,700 –> 00:32:01,820
It’s a hope the scripture has
learned, believed and acted upon
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00:32:02,980 –> 00:32:06,940
that it will feed that part in
you and which God wants to
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00:32:06,940 –> 00:32:10,740
dwell.
Now listen to Paul and turn over
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00:32:10,740 –> 00:32:15,020
to the book of Ephesians.
We’re going to look at Ephesians
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00:32:15,020 –> 00:32:20,830
in chapter 4.
We’re going to look at verses 17
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00:32:20,830 –> 00:32:26,350
through 24, and as we’re reading
it, what I’d like you to do is
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00:32:26,350 –> 00:32:29,510
try to identify all the places
in this section of scripture
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00:32:29,830 –> 00:32:34,590
where Paul is talking about
understanding or learning or
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00:32:34,590 –> 00:32:38,790
hearing or knowledge or
teaching, understanding,
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00:32:38,790 –> 00:32:43,510
learning, knowledge, teaching,
hearing, these types of words, I
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00:32:43,510 –> 00:32:47,810
want you to ask yourself.
Do all of these words have
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00:32:47,810 –> 00:32:50,810
anything to do with spirit?
Anything at all to do with
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00:32:50,810 –> 00:32:57,250
spirit, Anything at all to do
with that inner man, the inner
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00:32:57,250 –> 00:33:00,650
man where God dwells?
All right, so let’s start at
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00:33:00,650 –> 00:33:03,290
first.
You know, I’ll read out of the
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00:33:03,290 –> 00:33:05,050
King James Version.
I have the new King James
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00:33:05,050 –> 00:33:08,050
Version in front of me, but I
think most of us probably has
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00:33:08,170 –> 00:33:11,130
had King James versions.
So we’ll read out of the King
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00:33:11,130 –> 00:33:12,930
James.
We’ll start at verse 17.
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00:33:14,500 –> 00:33:18,020
This I say therefore, and
testify in the Lord, that ye
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00:33:18,020 –> 00:33:25,140
henceforth walk not as other
Gentiles walk in the vanity of
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00:33:25,140 –> 00:33:32,940
their mind, having the
understanding darkened, being
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00:33:32,940 –> 00:33:39,020
alienated from the life of God
through the ignorance that is in
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00:33:39,020 –> 00:33:44,140
them because of the blindness of
their heart.
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00:33:45,830 –> 00:33:50,990
Who, being past feeling, have
given themselves over to
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00:33:51,270 –> 00:33:54,870
lasciviousness, to work all
uncleanness with greediness.
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00:33:56,270 –> 00:34:11,449
There’s 20 But ye have not so
learned Christ, if so be ye,
510
00:34:11,449 –> 00:34:16,850
have heard him, and have been
taught by him.
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00:34:18,409 –> 00:34:24,770
As the truth is in Jesus, that
ye put off concerning the former
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00:34:24,889 –> 00:34:30,170
conversation, the old man which
is corrupt according to
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00:34:30,170 –> 00:34:40,449
deceitful lusts, and be renewed
in the spirit of your mind, Paul
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00:34:40,449 –> 00:34:42,639
says here.
To be renewed in the spirit of
515
00:34:42,639 –> 00:34:45,679
your mind now in Colossians, in
chapter 3 and verse 10, and what
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00:34:45,679 –> 00:34:50,360
is really a very parallel
passage, Paul puts it this way
517
00:34:51,159 –> 00:34:58,640
and put on the new man, which is
renewed in knowledge after the
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00:34:58,680 –> 00:35:08,480
image of him that created him.
Do you understand?
519
00:35:08,480 –> 00:35:11,360
We’re not torturing you
teenagers.
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00:35:12,800 –> 00:35:16,560
Isn’t about torture.
There’s some hope, perhaps
521
00:35:17,360 –> 00:35:26,000
optimism may play a part that
that the words they do something
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00:35:26,000 –> 00:35:32,240
to your mind and that they renew
you, and that they create a
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00:35:32,240 –> 00:35:37,800
place within you where Christ
and God will dwell and that
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00:35:37,800 –> 00:35:42,900
you’ll change.
That’s what we’re trying to do.
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00:35:44,860 –> 00:35:49,100
That’s why every time we get
together, we focus on the word.
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00:35:53,900 –> 00:35:56,300
But how would you react to
Paul’s words?
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00:35:56,460 –> 00:35:58,620
How would you react to Paul’s
words that there’s something
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00:35:58,620 –> 00:36:01,580
inside of you, this carnal mind
that you have and I have, that’s
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00:36:01,580 –> 00:36:03,020
simply never going to be
converted?
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00:36:04,580 –> 00:36:07,860
Now I responded by reading those
words in a time when I was.
531
00:36:08,210 –> 00:36:15,890
In a very, very stressful
situation, By saying that makes
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00:36:15,890 –> 00:36:21,050
me feel so much better.
But I think there also could be
533
00:36:21,050 –> 00:36:25,570
another reaction on the opposite
side, which says there’s
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00:36:25,570 –> 00:36:27,410
something in me that can never
be converted.
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00:36:27,650 –> 00:36:31,330
I almost feel hopeless.
I almost feel hopeless.
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00:36:31,330 –> 00:36:34,170
I mean, I’m going to struggle
with this my whole life.
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00:36:35,010 –> 00:36:37,010
There’s this famous story about
Harry Tennant.
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00:36:38,020 –> 00:36:42,580
And and Harry was giving a class
for teenagers at a Bible school.
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00:36:43,380 –> 00:36:45,620
And he asked the teenagers
essentially about their desire
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00:36:45,620 –> 00:36:49,540
to sin and how that desire to
sin would change as they aged.
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00:36:50,460 –> 00:36:54,380
And the teenagers basically told
them, told him that when they
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00:36:54,380 –> 00:36:56,180
got older, they wouldn’t want to
sin anymore.
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00:36:57,780 –> 00:37:00,100
And so he went out to the class,
The next class he’s given to the
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00:37:00,100 –> 00:37:01,820
adults, he says adults.
Good news.
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00:37:02,300 –> 00:37:06,460
The teenagers have all concluded
that you don’t want to sin and
546
00:37:06,460 –> 00:37:07,700
all the adults.
Laughed.
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00:37:09,410 –> 00:37:12,370
But that’s what the teenagers
thought, that when I got older,
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00:37:12,370 –> 00:37:14,610
I wouldn’t want to sin anymore.
And and actually what I’m
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00:37:14,610 –> 00:37:18,250
telling you is that you’re going
to want to sin until you die.
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00:37:20,170 –> 00:37:23,050
There’s a part of you which will
never be converted.
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00:37:23,170 –> 00:37:26,650
And I guess on the extreme end
that might be hopeless for some
552
00:37:26,650 –> 00:37:30,290
people.
And and I think Paul was
553
00:37:30,290 –> 00:37:32,530
thinking maybe people are going
to respond the wrong way to
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00:37:32,530 –> 00:37:34,930
these words.
And So what he says in the next
555
00:37:34,930 –> 00:37:38,630
several verses is just meant to.
To make his readers feel more
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00:37:38,630 –> 00:37:40,230
comfortable about what he just
said.
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00:37:40,830 –> 00:37:45,710
And so he says in verses 9
through 11 he says, but you’re
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00:37:45,710 –> 00:37:47,670
not in the flesh, but in the
Spirit.
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00:37:47,830 –> 00:37:49,710
He says, listen, this is
hopeless.
560
00:37:50,070 –> 00:37:52,030
You have this Carl mind that’s
never going to be converted.
561
00:37:52,150 –> 00:37:54,830
But guess what?
You don’t just have the Carl
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00:37:54,830 –> 00:37:57,310
mind.
You also have the Spirit.
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00:37:57,510 –> 00:38:00,350
Now, for people without the
Spirit, this is truly hopeless.
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00:38:02,030 –> 00:38:03,990
For people without the Spirit,
this is truly hopeless.
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00:38:03,990 –> 00:38:05,630
But he says, listen, it’s not
for you.
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00:38:06,230 –> 00:38:09,150
Because you don’t just have the
carnal mind, you have something
567
00:38:09,150 –> 00:38:11,710
more than the carnal mind.
You actually have the Spirit.
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00:38:12,110 –> 00:38:14,950
And so he says in verse 9.
But you are not in the flesh but
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00:38:14,950 –> 00:38:18,550
in the spirit, if indeed the
Spirit of God dwells in you.
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00:38:19,070 –> 00:38:24,190
Now if anyone does not have the
Spirit of Christ, he is not his.
571
00:38:25,110 –> 00:38:30,110
But if Christ is in you, the
body is dead because of sin, but
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00:38:30,110 –> 00:38:31,950
the Spirit is the wife because
of righteousness.
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00:38:32,950 –> 00:38:34,150
It’s quite a passage.
To this.
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00:38:34,690 –> 00:38:38,450
But in summary, simply saying
that that you don’t need to be
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00:38:38,450 –> 00:38:42,050
concerned if you have the
knowledge of Christ and believe
576
00:38:42,050 –> 00:38:45,690
his word, that gospel which has
power to save and will save you.
577
00:38:47,490 –> 00:38:48,490
That you don’t have to lose
hope.
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00:38:48,650 –> 00:38:51,970
Because you’re not just in the
carnal mind, you actually have
579
00:38:51,970 –> 00:38:54,890
the spirit too and that spirit
within you will work out your
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00:38:54,890 –> 00:38:57,610
salvation.
So don’t lose hope.
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00:38:58,570 –> 00:39:02,570
Of course we read these verses
and say is Christ in me?
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00:39:03,900 –> 00:39:08,020
What does that mean?
We don’t, we don’t read them
583
00:39:08,020 –> 00:39:10,420
with the intention that Paul
wanted to be read because we’re
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00:39:10,420 –> 00:39:13,500
getting worked worked up over
over whether Christ is in us.
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00:39:14,740 –> 00:39:17,340
And we ask ourselves the
question, is Christ in me?
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00:39:19,060 –> 00:39:22,300
And some of you might be sitting
there right now going, I don’t
587
00:39:22,300 –> 00:39:27,780
know, is Christ in me?
I don’t know.
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00:39:28,020 –> 00:39:31,660
And you ask yourself the
question, well, what’s that
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00:39:31,660 –> 00:39:32,820
supposed to feel?
Like.
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00:39:33,610 –> 00:39:36,810
What does it feel like for the
chairman if Christ is in you?
591
00:39:37,730 –> 00:39:40,650
Bit of a tough one.
That’s the issue.
592
00:39:40,690 –> 00:39:44,570
He thinks it feels great.
But what?
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00:39:44,570 –> 00:39:47,410
What brother chairman, if the
brother sisters out there don’t
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00:39:47,410 –> 00:39:49,490
feel great, does that mean they
don’t have Christ in them?
595
00:39:50,090 –> 00:39:52,850
And that’s the question.
So that’s that’s the conflict,
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00:39:53,370 –> 00:39:58,210
You know, what do we do then?
What do we do if we don’t feel
597
00:39:58,210 –> 00:40:01,970
good?
I think that’s where we get
598
00:40:01,970 –> 00:40:05,430
ourselves tripped up.
Because we think that having
599
00:40:05,430 –> 00:40:09,030
Christ in us is supposed to be a
feeling.
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00:40:10,750 –> 00:40:14,350
We think that’s supposed to feel
good and warm and happy and
601
00:40:14,350 –> 00:40:18,750
enthusiastic.
And here I was on mission work.
602
00:40:19,630 –> 00:40:24,270
I didn’t feel warm or happy or
enthusiastic.
603
00:40:25,670 –> 00:40:28,870
Does that mean the work was bad,
the work was flawed?
604
00:40:28,870 –> 00:40:32,350
Does that mean Christ had
abandoned me?
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00:40:33,720 –> 00:40:40,040
It wasn’t in me anymore.
And I think that sometimes we
606
00:40:40,040 –> 00:40:42,560
can think having Christ in us
means we don’t have to have any
607
00:40:42,560 –> 00:40:46,400
hard choices anymore because
everything is just so clear and
608
00:40:46,400 –> 00:40:48,040
right and wrong and everything
is just so obvious.
609
00:40:48,040 –> 00:40:51,400
And we don’t worry about it
making bad decisions or doing
610
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:53,600
bad things because we have
Christ in us and it just feels
611
00:40:53,600 –> 00:40:59,720
good all the time.
And yes.
612
00:41:01,400 –> 00:41:03,640
Having Christ in us can bring us
great contentment.
613
00:41:04,280 –> 00:41:06,680
There’s no doubt that is
scriptural.
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00:41:09,320 –> 00:41:12,720
But you’ll never get there
focusing on feeling good.
615
00:41:13,520 –> 00:41:14,720
Isn’t that the great irony of
it?
616
00:41:16,600 –> 00:41:19,480
You’ll never get contentment.
Trying to get contentment,
617
00:41:21,400 –> 00:41:24,240
you’ll never feel good trying to
feel good.
618
00:41:28,660 –> 00:41:30,860
And you think after all Paul is
said about the motions of the
619
00:41:30,860 –> 00:41:33,620
flesh and the mind of the
Spirit, that having Christ in us
620
00:41:33,620 –> 00:41:38,180
is merely replacing a bad
feeling with a good feeling has
621
00:41:38,180 –> 00:41:45,900
nothing to do with feelings.
Now turn over to John 6, where
622
00:41:45,900 –> 00:41:49,580
we learn a bit more about what
Christ in us really means.
623
00:42:06,180 –> 00:42:10,340
And after Christ fed the 5000,
it might be an understatement to
624
00:42:10,340 –> 00:42:13,260
say that people are
enthusiastic, enthusiastic.
625
00:42:13,900 –> 00:42:16,140
They wanted to take him by force
and make him king.
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00:42:16,260 –> 00:42:19,060
Why not?
God said in Genesis chapter 3,
627
00:42:19,060 –> 00:42:21,140
verse 19 that by the sweat of
your face you’re going to make
628
00:42:21,140 –> 00:42:22,700
bread.
But this man has pulled it out
629
00:42:22,700 –> 00:42:25,500
of the basket.
How great is that?
630
00:42:26,100 –> 00:42:27,700
Who wouldn’t want to make that
person king?
631
00:42:29,300 –> 00:42:30,700
Of course they want to make him
king.
632
00:42:30,860 –> 00:42:32,740
And they’re very enthusiastic, I
mean.
633
00:42:33,270 –> 00:42:34,670
They’re pumped up.
They’re full of juice.
634
00:42:34,670 –> 00:42:37,590
Like all that evangelical stuff
like Hallelujah, Wonderful.
635
00:42:37,590 –> 00:42:38,950
You know, like that’s how they
felt.
636
00:42:39,390 –> 00:42:41,630
They felt good.
They felt really good.
637
00:42:44,430 –> 00:42:49,430
And Christ retreats to a Quiet
Place to pray because John had
638
00:42:49,430 –> 00:42:53,310
just been executed.
And when John was executed, did
639
00:42:53,310 –> 00:42:58,710
that feel good?
When John was putting his head
640
00:42:58,710 –> 00:43:02,750
against the platter, they feel
good.
641
00:43:07,500 –> 00:43:11,380
Was Christ not in him when he
did that?
642
00:43:15,700 –> 00:43:19,620
And Christ moves away to a quiet
place to pray, to gain some
643
00:43:19,620 –> 00:43:24,740
strength, and they find him the
next day on the other side of
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00:43:24,740 –> 00:43:26,940
the sea, and they’re just as
excited as they were the day
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00:43:26,940 –> 00:43:31,420
before.
And Christ says to them.
646
00:43:32,540 –> 00:43:34,180
And he proves them with his
words.
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00:43:34,940 –> 00:43:37,220
Says you feel really good.
You feel really good.
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00:43:37,220 –> 00:43:39,260
You want to make me king?
You want to make me king?
649
00:43:39,260 –> 00:43:42,180
You really do.
Well, just listen to what I have
650
00:43:42,180 –> 00:43:48,220
to say, he says.
You want to make me king because
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00:43:48,220 –> 00:43:51,110
you ate bread.
You.
652
00:43:55,670 –> 00:43:57,470
Want to make me king because I
gave you a free meal?
653
00:43:59,270 –> 00:44:01,670
They said no, no, we want to
make you king because of you.
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00:44:02,470 –> 00:44:04,430
This isn’t about free meal.
You’re the one.
655
00:44:08,280 –> 00:44:14,440
Jesus says in John 6, verse 54,
whoever eats my flesh and drinks
656
00:44:14,440 –> 00:44:20,200
my blood has eternal life, and
I’ll raise him up at the last
657
00:44:20,200 –> 00:44:26,040
day.
For my flesh is food indeed, my
658
00:44:26,040 –> 00:44:31,280
blood is drink indeed, and this
is the important bit.
659
00:44:32,440 –> 00:44:37,280
He who eats my flesh and drinks
my blood abides in me and I and
660
00:44:37,280 –> 00:44:39,480
him.
Well, that’s interesting because
661
00:44:39,480 –> 00:44:42,240
that’s where we’re trying to
find out about what does it mean
662
00:44:42,240 –> 00:44:44,560
that Christ twelves in you?
What does that really mean?
663
00:44:45,480 –> 00:44:47,880
We’re fortunate because here
Jesus is really talking about
664
00:44:47,880 –> 00:44:50,880
that very thing, and he’s saying
that He eats my flesh and drinks
665
00:44:50,880 –> 00:44:52,840
my blood abides in me and I and
him.
666
00:44:52,840 –> 00:44:55,880
So what does he mean by that?
He goes on to say, as the living
667
00:44:55,880 –> 00:44:59,200
Father sent me, and I live
because of the Father, so he who
668
00:44:59,200 –> 00:45:01,440
feeds on me will live because of
me.
669
00:45:04,860 –> 00:45:07,460
Jesus says that he abides and
saves those and eat his flesh
670
00:45:07,460 –> 00:45:10,500
and drink his blood.
So we should look at this
671
00:45:10,500 –> 00:45:12,980
language and say, does this
language at all invoke any
672
00:45:12,980 –> 00:45:15,220
discussion of the Spirit?
Because if it does, we’re
673
00:45:15,220 –> 00:45:17,540
probably on safe ground thinking
that really these are talking
674
00:45:17,540 –> 00:45:20,340
about very similar things that
Paul is talking about in Romans
675
00:45:20,340 –> 00:45:22,820
chapter 8 might be very similar
to what Jesus is talking about
676
00:45:22,820 –> 00:45:26,860
here in John Six.
We can understand what it means
677
00:45:26,860 –> 00:45:31,410
that Christ dwells in us.
And we move on over 60, And we
678
00:45:31,410 –> 00:45:34,370
read their the minions, his
disciples.
679
00:45:34,530 –> 00:45:39,090
When they heard this, they said,
this is a hard saying.
680
00:45:40,130 –> 00:45:44,370
Who can understand it?
And when Jesus knew in himself
681
00:45:44,370 –> 00:45:47,770
that his disciples complained
about this, his disciples, By
682
00:45:47,770 –> 00:45:49,050
the way, these are his
disciples.
683
00:45:49,050 –> 00:45:52,250
These are not just randoms that
had a free meal, right?
684
00:45:52,250 –> 00:45:54,250
I want to be clear about that.
These are, these are his
685
00:45:54,250 –> 00:45:58,770
disciples, he said to them.
Does this offend you?
686
00:46:00,910 –> 00:46:02,390
What they need.
You should see the Son of man
687
00:46:02,390 –> 00:46:07,390
ascend where he was before.
It’s the spirit who gives life,
688
00:46:08,630 –> 00:46:13,910
the flesh prophets, nothing.
The words I speak to you are
689
00:46:13,910 –> 00:46:19,350
spirit and their life.
So what is the spirit?
690
00:46:22,830 –> 00:46:24,510
It’s very simple brother,
sisters.
691
00:46:26,390 –> 00:46:28,510
It’s the words of Jesus that
give life.
692
00:46:30,840 –> 00:46:33,800
And isn’t that the exact point
that Paul’s making about the
693
00:46:33,800 –> 00:46:35,600
spirit of Romans?
He’s saying the Spirit gives
694
00:46:35,600 –> 00:46:38,960
life, that you have this carnal
mind, but the Spirit working in
695
00:46:38,960 –> 00:46:41,760
you is going to give life.
And he says Romans 8 verse 11.
696
00:46:42,000 –> 00:46:44,480
But if the spirit of him who
raised Jesus from the dead
697
00:46:44,480 –> 00:46:49,480
dwells in you, he who raised
Christ and the dead will give
698
00:46:49,480 –> 00:46:53,960
life to your mortal bodies
through his spirit who dwells in
699
00:46:53,960 –> 00:46:55,280
you.
So the Spirit gives life.
700
00:46:57,310 –> 00:47:00,030
It’s the words of Christ.
It’s his teaching, His precepts,
701
00:47:00,590 –> 00:47:03,710
the knowledge without which we
cannot please God, because we
702
00:47:03,710 –> 00:47:08,510
wouldn’t know what it was like
to be what what God’s like.
703
00:47:08,510 –> 00:47:09,870
We wouldn’t know what his
character’s like.
704
00:47:09,870 –> 00:47:12,510
We wouldn’t know what his
teaching is, what he what he
705
00:47:12,510 –> 00:47:17,350
wants us to know and to believe.
But it’s not just knowledge,
706
00:47:18,190 –> 00:47:20,790
okay.
It’s not just knowledge.
707
00:47:20,790 –> 00:47:25,790
It’s just words.
You hear all sorts of words.
708
00:47:26,230 –> 00:47:29,670
Words all day long.
It’s not just knowledge.
709
00:47:29,670 –> 00:47:36,790
It’s not just words, is it?
And we read that from that time
710
00:47:36,990 –> 00:47:39,710
many of his disciples went back
and walked with him no more.
711
00:47:41,230 –> 00:47:44,590
So I ask you then, if the Spirit
are Jesus words?
712
00:47:45,230 –> 00:47:47,150
Did the Spirit give warm
feelings?
713
00:47:48,230 –> 00:47:52,510
What did the Spirit feel like?
What did Jesus words?
714
00:47:52,510 –> 00:47:56,370
Life giving though they were?
What do they feel like?
715
00:47:58,010 –> 00:48:03,450
I’ll tell you what they offended
they brought up within his
716
00:48:03,450 –> 00:48:06,570
disciples negative and strange
and bad feelings.
717
00:48:08,930 –> 00:48:11,050
So I’m going to say this now,
and I really mean this very,
718
00:48:11,050 –> 00:48:12,410
very clearly.
I don’t know how to say it more
719
00:48:12,410 –> 00:48:14,130
clearly.
So to say as clearly as I can,
720
00:48:15,290 –> 00:48:19,690
The Spirit is not about your
feelings, so get rid of that
721
00:48:19,690 –> 00:48:22,970
concept.
It’s not about feeling warm and
722
00:48:22,970 –> 00:48:25,370
happy and secure and comfortable
and lovely and safe all the
723
00:48:25,370 –> 00:48:30,930
time.
Most often it isn’t about making
724
00:48:30,930 –> 00:48:32,770
the easy choice that feels
right.
725
00:48:34,530 –> 00:48:39,010
It’s about making the difficult
choice that’s right no matter
726
00:48:39,010 –> 00:48:43,890
how it feels.
And the spirit within you is
727
00:48:43,890 –> 00:48:48,970
going to allow you to make that
choice because you now know what
728
00:48:48,970 –> 00:48:52,070
right is.
Now know what God’s right and
729
00:48:52,070 –> 00:48:55,510
wrong is, what God’s good and
evil is, and you’re going to
730
00:48:55,510 –> 00:48:59,230
feel within yourself your own
good and evil come into conflict
731
00:48:59,230 –> 00:49:02,670
with God’s good and evil.
So what’s going to allow you
732
00:49:02,670 –> 00:49:07,750
then within yourself, when you
feel you’re good and evil, come
733
00:49:07,750 –> 00:49:10,710
into conflict with God’s?
What’s going to allow you to
734
00:49:10,710 –> 00:49:12,390
submit yourself to God’s good
and evil?
735
00:49:13,550 –> 00:49:15,910
What’s going to allow you to
yield yourself to him?
736
00:49:15,910 –> 00:49:21,990
It’s going to be the Spirit.
It might not feel good.
737
00:49:24,670 –> 00:49:29,150
And then Jesus said to the 12,
Do you also want to go away?
738
00:49:32,230 –> 00:49:36,430
But Simon Peter answered him,
Lord, to whom shall we go?
739
00:49:37,790 –> 00:49:44,790
You have the words of eternal
life also we have come to.
740
00:49:45,720 –> 00:49:49,920
To believe and know that you are
the Christ and so you understand
741
00:49:49,920 –> 00:49:51,800
then it’s not just in the
knowing.
742
00:49:53,160 –> 00:49:55,000
The knowing doesn’t do you very
much good.
743
00:49:56,400 –> 00:49:57,840
I know some things about
economics.
744
00:49:57,840 –> 00:49:59,600
I studied them in school.
They’re not going to give me
745
00:49:59,880 –> 00:50:02,520
anything in the in the Kingdom.
It’s not going to help it.
746
00:50:02,520 –> 00:50:06,440
I know it.
It’s not just about knowing.
747
00:50:08,600 –> 00:50:11,760
And if you think that that we’re
up here just a pound scripture
748
00:50:11,760 –> 00:50:14,120
into your into your mind so we
can all be smarter, you’re
749
00:50:14,120 –> 00:50:17,520
wrong.
It’s not just so, you know.
750
00:50:18,280 –> 00:50:21,800
Now knowing is necessary.
But Peter didn’t just know.
751
00:50:23,600 –> 00:50:30,040
He knew and believed.
And he says, we have come to
752
00:50:30,040 –> 00:50:36,440
believe and know that you are
the Christ.
753
00:50:36,840 –> 00:50:39,640
And so he actually, he completes
this perfect, this perfect
754
00:50:39,640 –> 00:50:43,280
circle.
It’s not just knowing, it’s
755
00:50:43,280 –> 00:50:46,360
believing.
And it’s not just believing,
756
00:50:47,200 –> 00:50:54,200
it’s confessing.
And I reckon that as Peter saw
757
00:50:54,280 –> 00:50:59,920
his friends leave Christ, all
those disciples leave Christ,
758
00:51:01,200 –> 00:51:08,640
that it hurt, that didn’t feel
good at all, that he was really
759
00:51:08,640 –> 00:51:15,410
sad.
But Christ had the words of
760
00:51:15,410 –> 00:51:19,930
eternal life.
Where else was he to go?
761
00:51:24,810 –> 00:51:29,010
And So what we see then here
with Peter is we see that Peter
762
00:51:29,010 –> 00:51:31,690
has a spirit.
He has a spirit of Christ.
763
00:51:33,090 –> 00:51:37,930
That’s what allowed him to say
that he has Christ in him.
764
00:51:39,940 –> 00:51:42,580
He realizes, despite the
confusion, despite the other set
765
00:51:42,580 –> 00:51:44,860
of weapons, despite the
difficulty of the words, that
766
00:51:44,860 –> 00:51:47,060
Christ is life and Peter
believed him.
767
00:51:47,060 –> 00:51:50,460
And in that action the words
became belief, and that belief
768
00:51:50,460 –> 00:51:53,140
drove decision, and that
decision led to life.
769
00:51:55,460 –> 00:51:58,860
And brothers and sisters and
young people, we have the words
770
00:51:58,860 –> 00:52:02,740
of Christ, we have the same ones
Peter heard, and they dwell in
771
00:52:02,740 –> 00:52:05,820
us, and we know them, and we can
recite them or familiar with
772
00:52:05,820 –> 00:52:07,620
them.
So when do they become eternal
773
00:52:07,620 –> 00:52:10,450
life in us?
When do these words become
774
00:52:10,450 –> 00:52:14,970
eternal life in us?
When do they become spirit?
775
00:52:15,690 –> 00:52:19,530
When does the invisible agent of
the Word working within me?
776
00:52:19,810 –> 00:52:22,850
When does it display power?
When does the Word become
777
00:52:22,850 –> 00:52:29,570
powerful?
When we believe, and when that
778
00:52:29,570 –> 00:52:35,490
belief leads us to confess God’s
righteousness and to yield
779
00:52:35,490 –> 00:52:39,130
ourselves.
To his version of good and evil,
780
00:52:40,530 –> 00:52:45,610
and to make difficult choices,
Not easy ones, difficult ones,
781
00:52:46,850 –> 00:52:49,410
and certainly not choices.
Always feel good at the time,
782
00:52:51,250 –> 00:52:55,770
But which, if you make them,
bring great contentment.
783
00:52:59,210 –> 00:53:03,850
And each Sunday we do take him
in, and the bread and the wine,
784
00:53:05,770 –> 00:53:09,110
but just.
Just like our flesh is just
785
00:53:09,110 –> 00:53:12,590
carbon and oxygen and hydrogen,
so is this bread.
786
00:53:14,990 –> 00:53:18,990
I guess in and of itself it’s a
loaf of bread, but it’s not for
787
00:53:18,990 –> 00:53:21,030
you.
Do you know why it’s not just
788
00:53:21,030 –> 00:53:26,270
bread for you?
Because you believe so.
789
00:53:26,270 –> 00:53:30,350
It’s more than just bread.
It is Christ in you.
790
00:53:31,950 –> 00:53:35,790
It is you renewing yourself, and
it is in you.
791
00:53:36,530 –> 00:53:42,170
Proclaiming the Lord Jesus and
his death till he come.
792
00:53:43,290 –> 00:53:46,170
And so as we take this bread and
this wine, we pass it from hand
793
00:53:46,170 –> 00:53:47,850
to hand.
What do we think of ourselves?
794
00:53:48,890 –> 00:53:50,210
We don’t think of ourselves at
all.
795
00:53:51,930 –> 00:53:54,770
Suppose we think of the Lord
Jesus, we think of ourselves
796
00:53:54,770 –> 00:54:00,450
only in relation to Him, and we
make a decision once again to be
797
00:54:00,450 –> 00:54:08,380
like Him, to crucify our flesh.
Our desires and our passions and
798
00:54:08,380 –> 00:54:11,020
we choose to proclaim the Lord’s
death.
799
00:54:12,860 –> 00:54:15,100
And we ask ourselves a very
important question.
800
00:54:18,220 –> 00:54:23,180
Is Christ alive in me?
And am I dead to myself?
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