317: Kevin Leadbetter – Joseph: The Rejected Becomes The Savior in Due Time

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Welcome to good Chris Selfian
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Welcome to the good Chris
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This is brother Brian.
Just as a way of introduction,

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we have Brother Mike Livermore
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Mike.
Hello.

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My name is Mike Livermore, I’m a
disciple of Christ from the

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state of Michigan, here to share
with you a class I really

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enjoyed hearing at Trine or the
Midwest Bible School in 2023.

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The teacher is Kevin Ledbetter
who is an old friend of mine

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from Ontario who now lives in
Virginia.

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And at Trine 2023 he gave an
evening program which I believe

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was Thursday night, might have
been Wednesday night, I forget,

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but it was just a one off
evening program and I loved it.

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It was my favorite class of the
whole Bible school and I went up

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and I thanked Kevin immediately
after the class.

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I love this class.
The class is called Joseph.

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The rejected becomes the savior
in due time.

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There’s two reasons why I love
this class.

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The 1st is it sort of answers
the question.

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Have you ever been in a class
where when it was over you

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wanted more?
Where instead of the class going

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on for too long, instead you
thought the class was too short,

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you didn’t even get enough.
Like what you got was great, but

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you wanted more.
He left the audience wanting

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more.
It’s such a rare thing.

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Usually, you know, people go
long, but Kevin said no, less is

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more.
And I left this class wanting

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even more than the already
excellent spiritual meal that I

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got.
The second reason I love this

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class was that I can’t believe
I’ve lived my whole life and

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never realized the lessons or
the expositional material that

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Kevin brought out about Joseph.
That we of course know that

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Joseph’s a type of Christ, but
we forget all of the connections

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sort of in the second-half of
Joseph’s life to the future work

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of Jesus and I.
It’s one of the things where you

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say, why did I never even think
of that before?

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So I learned so much.
And for all of the expositional

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weight of this class and the
lesson at the end, I still

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wanted more.
Like it wasn’t enough.

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It was that good.
So hopefully you agree with me.

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Hopefully you love this class
and when it’s over ask yourself

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did you want 3 more minutes of
Kevin maybe really hammering a

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lessons home?
I could have taken 10-15 more

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minutes.
I love this class so hopefully

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you do too.
So this was Kevin Ledbetter

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trying 2023 called Joseph the
rejected becomes the Savior in

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due time.
Joseph is one of those stories

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in scriptures that really pulls
us in as we read through it.

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You feel his pain and anguish
when he’s sold by his brethren.

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We feel sorry and upset when
he’s for his unjust

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imprisonment, and yet we stand
behind him when he’s lifted up

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into a position of authority.
It’s really this great,

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remarkable and very emotional
story, and we take a step back

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to consider the life of Joseph.
We see that’s a witness to the

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power of God with the rejected
Joseph who becomes the Savior of

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the world in the right time in
God’s plan.

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That the life of Joseph is
presented in such a way in

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Scriptures that it foreshadows
future events.

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For example, if we read through
chapters 37, we read of the

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treatment that Joseph receives
at the hand of his brethren.

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They mocked him, they conspired
against him, they stripped him

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of his clothes, and they sell
him to die.

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And these same details are are
described.

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Describes how the nation of
Israel treated Jesus and his

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ministry who was hated, rejected
and sentenced to death by his

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brethren.
Like Joseph.

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We read chapters 40 to 41.
They tell us this really

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dramatic way in which Joseph is
brought up out of prison by

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being an interpreter of dreams
to become second in command.

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And this very illustration is
applied to Christ.

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The apostle Paul says that when
he ascended up on high, he led

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captivity captive.
And so the imagery is presented

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of one who opens the prisons and
leads the captives to freedom.

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And we know as by Paul’s use of
this is representative of Jesus

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resurrection and his ascension
to sit at the right hand of God.

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And so we see clearly the life
of Joseph is a from chapters 37

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to 41 is a pattern of the life
of Jesus, pointing forward to

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his abuse of treatment by his
brethren and his life, his

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condemnation to die, his
resurrection and ascension to

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the right hand of God.
Now if the first advent of Jesus

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is portrayed in chapters 37 to
41, what about chapters 42 to

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46?
Would it not stand to reason

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then that the second-half of the
life of Joseph is a pattern of

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Jesus as well?
Consider this remark from Logos

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Magazine in 1953 and speaking
about Joseph as a type of

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Christ, the writer says it
usually requires 2 characters to

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typify the Lord Jesus Christ.
For example, David and Solomon

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combined prefigured the Lord as
man of war and Prince of Peace.

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In Joseph, we have the complete
type, a man whose life

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foreshadowed in great detail the
past and future glory of the

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Messiah.
So only inspiration could select

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to record such a life, and which
is a complete parable, the

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purpose of God in Christ.
And so brother Pennington here

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calls Joseph the complete type,
the past and future glory of the

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Messiah.
And so it’s at this point,

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brothers and sisters, we’re
going to consider a few details

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primarily from Genesis 42.
Now, as we go through this

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chapter, think about how these
details point forward to the

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future work of Israel’s
Redeemer.

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So chapter 42, just for a bit of
context here, the narrative

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brings our attention away from
Joseph in Egypt, back up into

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the land of Canaan, to Jacob and
to his eleven sons.

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Now, verses one to four, Jacob
and his sons realize that there

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is a famine in the land.
Now, they do not know that’s

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going to last seven years and
they don’t know what God’s plan

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is at this time.
However, they do realize the

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seriousness of this situation.
They realize it’s a matter of

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life and death.
And so it’s at this point, if

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you were to go over to Acts
Chapter 7 and read what Stephen

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has to say about this time
period.

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He says that our fathers found
no sustenance in the land,

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indicating that the sons of
Jacob went up and down the land

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looking for food for them and
for their cattle, and they came

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up empty.
And so at this point the Jacob

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turns to his sons and says, why
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I don’t think this comments so
much about the laziness on their

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part, but it is their lack of
action.

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You see, they’ve searched the
land, they came up empty, and

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they don’t know what to do next.
And so it’s Jacob, their father,

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who takes command.
And it’s he that directs their

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attention to Egypt, where there
will be food for their survival.

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And so he then organizes his
sons to go into Egypt to buy

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food.
However, due to issues of

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mistrust, he doesn’t send
Benjamin with the 10.

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So just to summarize here,
verses one to four, the brethren

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seek food during the time of a
famine.

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Now verses 5 to 9, the brethren
come into Egypt to buy corn and

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the very first thing they do as
they entered in to Egypt is to

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bow down before this ruler in
charge.

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Now there’s two interesting
things identified in this

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action.
Firstly, from the from the

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perspective of the sons of Jacob
from the 10 brethren, verse 8,

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Joseph knew them, but they did
not know him, so they didn’t

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recognize Joseph.
But you look at this situation

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through the eyes of Joseph as he
sees his brethren come in and he

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sees his brethren bow down
before them.

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What does he see?
He sees his dreams being

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fulfilled, and it’s declaring to
him that Yahweh is at work

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through him to save his family.
And so verses 5 to 9, we see

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that the brethren bow down
before this unknown provider

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when they enter into Egypt.
Now verses 9 to 38, the brethren

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are thou put to the test.
You see Joseph, upon recognizing

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his brethren, he devises a way
to see if they’ve changed their

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ways and so he accuses them of
being spies in the land.

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Now the sentence or the
punishment of being spies is

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death.
So consider the situation the

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brethren are in.
They’re being accused of spying

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in a foreign land.
Their life is on the line.

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Now look how they respond in
verse 10.

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They said nay, my Lord, but to
buy food are thy servants of

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comes.
They’re declaring that their

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purpose here is not to spy out
the land.

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Their purpose is to buy food to
provide for their families back

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home.
But they follow this with a

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declaration in verse 11.
They said we’re all one man’s

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sons and we are true men and not
spies.

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And so they make this
declaration.

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We’re not spies.
We’re not.

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We’re telling the truth because
we’re true men.

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It’s interesting.
The evidence that they that they

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put forth for this, the evidence
they put forth that they’re not

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spies is that that they are sons
of one man in the land of

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Canaan.
Now how does this evidence prove

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their innocence?
How does this evidence prove

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that they’re not spies to spy
out the land?

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Well, to this we would just go
back to Numbers chapter 13.

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We remember when the children of
Israel spied out the land of

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Canaan and what did they do?
They sent one man from every

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tribe into the land, showing
they had a confederate of people

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to invade.
You know, in the time of Joshua,

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they had an army consisting of
hundreds of thousands of

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soldiers to invade.
But in the time of Jacob, when

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you looked at the land of
Canaan, it was not united.

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It was broken up into multiple
tribes and small and small or or

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large families, one of which was
the family of Jacob.

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And so to challenge the power of
Egypt, they would have to be

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united.
And so therefore, proof that

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they were not spies, that they
were looking for food, was the

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fact that they had no
Confederates, they had no help,

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and that they were just one
family, and therefore they could

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not gather an army to defeat the
Egyptians.

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Now verses 9 to 34, we see this
bit of back and forth between

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Joseph and his brethren over
this accusation of spying.

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And Joseph really puts them in a
corner because they have to

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defend themselves by saying that
we’re true men and this is what

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Joseph is putting to the test.
Now in their defense, they

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mentioned that they had one more
brother at home with their

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father.
Now upon hearing this, that they

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had one more brother at home
with their father.

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Joseph leverages this situation
so he again, he can put their

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character to the test.
And So what does he say?

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He takes them up on their story.
He says fine, go fetch your

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brother that your words may be
proved because he wants to find

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out if there’s any truth in
them.

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So Joseph, he brilliantly
recreates his last interaction

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he had with his brothers by
putting them into prison to

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prove their worth.
Now, upon hearing Joseph’s

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request, look at this discussion
that comes up among the brethren

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as they’re standing before
Joseph.

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They said one to another, we are
verily guilty concerning our

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brother.
And so for the first time,

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Joseph hears them admit to their
grievous sins.

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And in verse 22, he also learns
that Reuben, his older brother,

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actually protested against his
other brothers and and somewhat

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stood up for him and showed a
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This is the first time Joseph is
hearing this out of his

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brother’s mouth.
Now, upon hearing their

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confession right in Reuben’s
Reuben’s remarks, it resorts

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Joseph to tears.
And we see that he’s a really

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emotional man.
And this concept of Joseph

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weeping over as a brethren is a
point that’s repeated multiple

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times in in the narrative.
Now, Brother Snow in the Logos

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magazine points out there seven
times that Joseph weeps over his

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brethren from the ways of when
he reflection of the ways of

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Providence to his presence
before his brethren, he’s

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weeping over them.
Now Brother Snow continues on

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and he speaks about this and he
first makes the point that tears

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show emotion.
He says Joseph tears flowed from

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Lovejoy, sympathy, sorrow,
affection, compassion and

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sadness.
He then makes the point the

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tears affect us physically.
He says tears relieve tension

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and are therefore calming in
effect and they do good for they

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contain a bacteria fighting
enzyme.

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And thirdly, he says they
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time.
And he finishes his remark here

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about the tears of Joseph.
And he says it’s significant

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that the Hebrew word for tears
or for eyes, sorry is Ian, and

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that there’s duty also for
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The eyes, of course, are the
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And so he he finishes remarks by
connecting tears as the

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fountains of the body.
So just to summarize these

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points, we see in verses 9 to
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test.
They have no Confederates.

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They acknowledge their sin.
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fountain who sheds tears over
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So I want to skip over a couple
chapters to chapter 44 again,

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just very briefly.
And this is where we have Judah

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before Joseph.
Now Judah is a man whose name

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means praised, and he comes
before Joseph really as a

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representative of his brethren,
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And he comes bowing before him.
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comes out of his mouth is an
acknowledgement of their sins

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and iniquities before God, and
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And then verses 18 to 34, Judah
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Now consider the emphasis of the
words here 44 and verse 19.

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Judah says, My Lord asked his
servants, saying, Have you a

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father and a brother?
He said, He said, we responded,

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we have a father and an old man,
and his father loves him, his

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son Benjamin.
And the lad cannot leave his

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father, for if he should leave
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die.
And so we see an emphasis in the

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words of Judah about their
father.

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And this continues on in the
rest of this chapter.

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His father, his father, his
father.

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And so here we have Judah as a
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And they’ve learned how their
actions have hurt their father,

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and they’ve changed their
character because it reflects

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their father.
There’s a change in these men as

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they come in to stand before
Joseph in Chapter 44.

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And so chapter 44, we see Judah
as representative of his

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brethren show care for their
father as they bow before this

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unknown provider.
It affected the way they lived

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their lives.
One last point from Genesis in

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Genesis chapter 45, as we we
have this this really as as

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Joseph reveals himself to his
brethren in in this really

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dramatic way.
Consider Joseph’s words about

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how God worked through them.
He says in verse 5, God sent me.

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He says in verse 7, God sent me
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Verse eight, it was not you that
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And so Joseph clearly makes the
point God was at work in their

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lives.
God was at work and sending him

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into Egypt.
Why verse 5?

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To preserve life.
It was to preserve a posterity

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and to save their lives.
And so Joseph, upon revealing

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himself to his brother, declares
that God worked through them to

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save their house.
And so he’s making the point

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that you can see the power of
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And what does it lead to?
It leads to a change of

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character.
It reads the reconciliation and

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ultimately to the saving of the
House of Jacob.

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And so last piece that we just
briefly looking at in the story

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of Joseph, Joseph is revealed.
Joseph, their brother is

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revealed as their Savior.
Now looking at this summary,

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where do our minds go in
scriptures to compare this, the

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second advent of our Lord the
Prophet Zechariah?

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Now you can just consider
briefly the summaries of chapter

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10 to 14.
Now, these are not necessarily

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in chronological order, but when
we read chapters 10 to 14, we

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read about the regathering and
cleansing of the nation of

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Israel.
We read about them seeking the

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Good Shepherd, and we read about
the salvation of Jerusalem and

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the establishment of the
Kingdom.

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And in the midst of all this,
Zechariah shares with us again a

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dramatic unfolding with the
nation of Israel recognizes

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Jesus as their savior in a time
of need.

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So let’s let’s start in
Zechariah chapter 10.

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This is a prophecy about the
divine deliverance and the

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regathering of the nation of
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But look how it starts.
He starts off by instructing the

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nation to pray to their God for
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He says, ask ye of the Lord
reign, ask ye.

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This is a prayer for help.
Now notice the time frame he

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follows this with the specific
season.

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That’s the season of the latter
rains.

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Now, we don’t use the term
former and latter rains here in

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the West, right?
But we often refer to this.

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Perhaps the the poetic verse we
might be familiar with is April

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showers bring May flowers.
Yeah.

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So the point is the time of
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Think about that for a second.
Zechariah is instructing the

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people to pray for rain when
during the rainy season.

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What does this imply?
It implies there is no rain.

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There’s no cloud in the sky when
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So we conclude then they’re
experiencing what they’re

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experiencing, drought.
This is going to lead to a

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famine in the land.
And this is how Zechariah starts

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off Chapter 10.
There’s a famine in the land,

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just like the time just before
Joseph reveals himself to his

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brethren in the latter days.
There’s a famine in the land

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before the nation is shown
mercy, before it’s redeemed, and

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before it’s strengthened.
If you were to follow through

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the chapter now worry about
reign in scriptures it usually

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significant of blessings from
God and whereas drought or

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famine generally represents
idolatry, apostasy or falling

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away from God.
So let’s look at chapter 10

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verse 2 Zechariah explains why
they’ve been experiencing

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drought or a famine in the land.
He says for the idols have

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spoken vanity and the diviners
have seen a lie and they have

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told false dreams.
Who does that remind us of?

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Joseph’s brethren lied to their
father.

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They scoffed at his dreams.
And so here we see again a

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connection between the nation of
Israel in the latter days and

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Joseph’s brethren back in
Genesis.

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It says they comfort in vain.
What’s the That’s the words that

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were used of Joseph’s brethren
as they were lousy comforters on

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the news of the death of Joseph.
And then Zechariah finishes this

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verse off by saying, therefore
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They were troubled because there
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And so he describes the nation
as apostate and leaderless,

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scattered.
And again we see this

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comparison.
Zechariah indicates that Israel

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will be in a period of apostasy
similar to the character and

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attitude of Joseph’s brethren.
And Zechariah describes the

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nation as a troubled flock
without a shepherd, again

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similar to Joseph’s brethren who
are wandering the land looking

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for food.
Verse 3 after mentioning they

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lacked a true shepherd, he makes
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He says mine anger was kindled
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You see, God was upset with the
shepherds they put in place in

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the absence of the true
shepherd, and these were

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shepherds that had no regard for
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Consider these comments from
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If you go over. 11 verse 5.
Sorry. 11 verse 5 their own

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shepherds pity them not. 11
verse 16.

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I will raise up a shepherd in
the land which shall not visit

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those that be cut off.
Neither shall seek the young

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one, nor heal that is broken,
nor feed that stands still, but

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he shall eat the flesh of the
fat and tear their claws in

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pieces.
And so the shepherds who were

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set in place in the absence of
our Lord, will not do their

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duty.
And what better imagery to bring

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our minds back to Joseph than
that of shepherds are the very

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occupation of Jacob and his
sons.

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It was his sons who led the
flock from Shechem to Dothan.

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It was his sons that killed the
lamb for their brother’s blood.

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False shepherds.
Bad leaderships.

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Bad leadership reminds us of
Reuben trying to take the

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leadership, but he failed in
keeping Joseph safe.

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He failed in understanding the
principles of atonement and

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reconciliation by trying to
offer his sons in place of

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Joseph or Jesus.
That was removed through this

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chapter in chapter 10.
Just just an interesting mention

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here in verse 6, we’ve got
mention of the House of Judah

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and the House of Joseph, again,
linking our minds back into the

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time of Genesis.
You go over to Chapter 11 again,

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just briefly.
There’s another connection to

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the life and to the bondage of
Joseph.

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In this case here they’re
talking about weighing the 30

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pieces of silver.
We know this is from Exodus

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chapter 21, the price of a gorge
slave.

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But Joseph, like Jesus, was sold
for money.

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In his case it was 20 pieces of
silver.

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Now, as you moved towards the
climax of Zechariah’s prophecy,

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it surrounds the revealing of
Jesus as the Savior in a time of

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trouble.
Now having started off in a time

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of famine, a period of apostasy,
disobedience, we find that God

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is working with them.
He says this I will bring of the

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third part through the fire, and
we’ll refine them as silver is

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refined and we’ll try them as
gold is tried.

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And so here we see Zechariah is
making it clear God is working

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with with a remnant of the
nation, just as he worked with

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Judah and his brethren.
And these are those that pretty

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much inhabit Israel and
Jerusalem at the time of the

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end.
And it’s at this time we find

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that the armies of the north,
they’re coming down into the

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land they’ve taken or about to
take Jerusalem, and they’re

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persecuting its inhabitants in a
very barbaric way.

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As you read through the first
few verses of Zechariah 14, we

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see those points come out.
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seemingly that the as the
nation’s grasping for its last

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breath, the place is shaken by a
great earthquake.

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And this is the point that we
see that Jesus stands upon the

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Mount of Olives, which then
cleaves into two, and it creates

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this valley that points towards
Jordan.

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And it provides a way for the
nation to escape from the

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northern oppressor.
And they’re going to escape down

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this valley into Jordan with the
army on their tails.

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And who do they meet?
It’s at this point here that we

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see they’re saved by Christ and
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Now consider the response of the
nation of Israel at this time as

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they meet their Savior.
We just go back to Zechariah

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chapter 12 again.
These these chapters are not in

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chronological order, but in
Zechariah 12 and verse 10, he

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talks about pouring out upon the
House of David and inhabitants

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of Jerusalem.
And it says that they shall look

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upon me whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him as

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one mourns for his only Son, and
shall be in bitterness for him,

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as one that is in bitterness for
his first born.

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And so they will finally
recognize the one whom they

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pierced.
They will mourn and be in

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bitterness for their
disobedience, for their

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ignorance, and they will be
surprised as their Savior turns

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out to be their brother.
This is a highly emotional time

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for them as Joseph is revealed
and they take responsibility.

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Look at this.
We go to chapter 13 and verse

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one where the nation is now
cleansed from its iniquity, and

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look at the imagery.
Look at the wording pulled out

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of here, Zechariah 13, verse
one.

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In that day when Christ is
revealed, when the nation is

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saved, in that day, there shall
be a fountain open to the House

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of David and to the habitants of
Jerusalem for sin and for

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uncleanness.
Look at the imagery being used.

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It reminds us back of Joseph
shedding his tears for his

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brethren.
Here’s the time when the nation

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will acknowledge their sins
before their Savior and God’s

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going to provide a way to
cleanse them from their

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iniquity.
As we continue on in chapter 13,

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the remnant acknowledges Jesus
and there and first thing we see

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is a humbling of the false
prophets among them.

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Now look at verse 5.
This is our find that the the

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King James.
It’s a little awkward in this

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section.
Well, we go to Zechariah 13 and

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verse 5.
But he shall say I am no

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prophet.
I am an husbandman for man

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taught me to keep cattle from my
youth.

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Now this is clearly talking
about the false prophets and

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they’re humbled at this point.
Now verse six, though, if you

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notice that the word one in the
King James is in italics.

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So you take the word one out of
verse 6 and what do we have here

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to read without the word 1?
We can see it’s the false

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prophets who are speaking.
And so the false prophets who

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are speaking in verse 5.
Then in verse six.

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And one shall say and shall say
the false prophets unto him.

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Well, who’s the him?
Well, what’s the question?

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The question is, what are these
wounds in thine hands?

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Well, this is the same question
and the same evidence asked for

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by Thomas, Thomas the Jew before
the resurrected Lord.

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And so here we see this is his,
the brethren surrounding Jesus.

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Who are you as he?
They, as they start the

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conversation about the wounds in
his hands and they start talking

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with Jesus, learning or start
talking with their Savior and

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learning it was Jesus and it’s
He who’s their Savior both

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nationally and during
Armageddon.

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And it’s amazing because it’s
through the type of Joseph and

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Zechariah kind of talks about
these events, but it’s through

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the type of Joseph that helps us
understand how emotional this

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time will be as Jesus reveals
himself to his brethren as they

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gather around to him.
We think of the tears of Joseph

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as he’s surrounded by his
brother to talk about these

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things.
Now to finish off Zechariah, we

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come to chapter 14, your last
few verses.

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And in verse 16 here we see that
all nations come up.

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This is after Armageddon, after
Christ, and the Saints have set

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themselves up in Jerusalem and
the nation’s been converted.

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And we have all nations coming
here to worship the king.

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And look at look at the words
that that Zechariah says.

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He says everyone that has left
of all the nations which came

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against Jerusalem shall even go
up, yeah, to year to year to

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worship the King, the Lord of
hosts, and to keep the Feast of

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Tabernacles.
So all nations coming up, just

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like all the nations went down
into Egypt.

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And it shall come to and it
shall be that whosoever will not

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come up of all the families of
the earth to Jerusalem to

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00:33:06,360 –> 00:33:09,320
worship the King, the Lord of
hosts, even upon them shall be

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no rain, no food, just like the
time of Joseph.

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God put those vents into place
to bring them down into Egypt.

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Likewise, at the time of the
end, those nations who don’t

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come up to Jerusalem will be in
a time of famine.

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And who’s the example that
Zechariah uses?

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Well, in verse 18, if the family
of Egypt go not up, they shall

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have no ring and and they shall
be plagued.

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Verse 19, this should be the
punishment of Egypt.

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And so it’s interesting that
Zechariah uses Egypt as a

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representative of rebellious
nations, again bringing our

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minds back to the story of
Joseph.

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So in summary, we’ve seen how
the life of Joseph foreshadows

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the 1st and 2nd advent of Jesus
Christ and with a with a

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specific focus on the revealing
of Jesus as their savior.

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00:34:12,840 –> 00:34:16,159
Now, while Zechariah outlines
these events and he helps us to

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understand that these things
point forward, it’s the type

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00:34:20,520 –> 00:34:24,840
that we see in Joseph which
gives us this beautiful imagery

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00:34:25,679 –> 00:34:29,560
of how emotional it will be as
Jesus stands in the midst of his

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brethren who repent and
acknowledge their God with a new

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00:34:35,760 –> 00:34:42,000
heart.
And we as Christadelphians, we

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00:34:42,000 –> 00:34:44,960
can be there to witness this in
that day.

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As immortalized Saints, we know
who the Redeemer is.

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But the challenge for us is the
same challenge for the brethren

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of Joseph.
And so we need to change our

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ways.
We need to be true men, and we

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need to seek the will of our
heavenly Father.

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And we’re going to close with
the words that will be spoken by

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the remnant of Israel in their
day of salvation.

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00:35:14,200 –> 00:35:17,000
He says in Zechariah 13, verse
9, this is talking about the

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redeemed who comes through.
They shall call upon my name,

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and I will hear them, and I will
say it is my people, and they

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shall say the Lord is my God.
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