This week we are listening to a class from the Day with the Word Weekend that was given at the Pomona Ecclesia in California on May 9, 1992 entitled “He Learned Obedience by the Things He Suffered” by Bro. Alfred Norris.
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Welcome to Good Chris Selfie and
Talks.
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I’m Levi.
And I’m Chris.
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And I’m Brian.
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week on this podcast.
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We post a new episode at the
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short intro beforehand to kind
of set the stage for the talk
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you’re about to listen to.
And now let’s talk more about
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this week’s talk.
Hello, welcome back.
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This is Brother Chris.
For our talk this week, we’re
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listening to the second class of
a day with the word study
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Weekend given by Brother Alfred
Norris at the Pomona Ecclesia
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back in 1992.
This was given in as a
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suggestion from a very dear
sister who actually started me
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on the journey of doing all the
tape digitization that I know
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we’ve talked about in a couple
other podcast of tapes that I’ve
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converted.
She handed me a stack of tapes
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for this series and said this is
my suggestion for the podcast
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and kind of started me on the
journey of figuring out how to
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digitize old talks and cassette
tapes and has now led to all the
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other many talks that we have
shared.
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This was one that I had wanted
to get to, but I had some issues
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with the original audio that I
had copied because it was right
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when I was starting to do it and
didn’t know what I was doing.
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So I had to go back and recopy
it to make sure that the audio
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sounded at the right level and
sounded good.
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One small disclaimer on this one
is this is a four part series of
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talks, but the sister who gave
it to me didn’t have the third
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tape and I have not been able to
find it anywhere online.
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So if anybody is aware of where
the third tape for this series
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is in existence, either online
or has a physical copy, please
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feel free to reach out to us.
I would love to be able to
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complete the set as it were.
This particular one, like I
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said, is the second class, and
the title of this one is He
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Learned obedience by the Things
He Suffered.
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In the entire series, Brother
Alfred is looking at Christ and
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different aspects of the
importance of his life.
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The first one he was looking at
the significance of the cross
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and the sacrifice of Christ.
This one, he was spending a lot
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of time looking at the
significance of Christ being a
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man and the importance of that.
And different little Nuggets
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that I hadn’t heard anybody make
mentioned before of the
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significance behind that.
And looking at different
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elements of the fact that
because Jesus was a man
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originally that he had, it just
was different in the way that he
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was tempted.
And because he had to learn
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obedience to God and battle
against his own human nature.
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Making the significance of the
sacrifice that he actually
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mentioned in the first class,
which will have classes 1-2 and
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four since class 3 is missing,
but we’ll have the three classes
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that we do have added to good
Christophian talks extended if
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you want to listen to all of
them.
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All three are excellent, and he
even mentions some of what he
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talks about in class 3 at the
start of class 4.
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So you kind of get a little
taste of what we’re missing, but
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at least you kind of can get the
sense of the entire series.
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I found this to be a really
powerful class, especially the
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last five to 10 minutes of this
class.
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Brother Alfred does a little bit
of a, I know exactly how to call
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it almost a monologue or sort of
a.
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What he’s sort of is surmising
is what could be the mindset of
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Christ when it came to him
learning obedience and the way
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he was approaching things when
it came to approaching God.
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And I don’t know if it’s just
the way that Brother Alfred
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spoke or the way that he had
written down the words that he
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was saying as he provided them,
but it just, it hit in a way
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that felt very powerful and very
different than I’ve heard in
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other scenarios.
So I know it was one of the
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things that I actually thought
about recounting some of the
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words that he said the next time
that I am remembering Christ at
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the memorial table because it
just kind of hit in a very
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different way for me, at least
at least personally.
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And I hope that the entire
class, the series, if you listen
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to it on the extended podcast or
the last five minutes of this
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class, have a impact on on you
and uplift you and encourage you
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in your walk.
Again, thank you to the sister
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who physically handed me a copy
as the suggestion for the
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podcast and I hope that you all
enjoy it just as much and as I
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did so.
With that, I will turn it over
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to Brother Alfred Norris.
For his class he learned
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obedience by the things that he
suffered.
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I sometimes think we don’t fully
appreciate the benefits and
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blessings in our understanding
of Scripture, particularly this
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present topic.
We stem from the fact that we do
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not believe in the doctrine of
the Trinity.
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Our usual approach to that
subject is to show quite
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convincingly from Scripture that
the Lord our God is 1 Lord.
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That there is one God the Father
and one Lord Jesus Christ.
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That whenever the Lord Jesus
Christ and His Father are
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mentioned together, the Lord
adopts or is given a subordinate
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position to His Father.
And that when the Lord Jesus
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returns to the earth and
conquers the nations, he will
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remain in control until such
time as He hath put all enemies
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under his feet.
And then, when it is said He
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putteth all things under his
feet, it is manifest that he is
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accepted, which did put all
things under him, that the Son
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shall be subject to the Father,
that God may be All in all.
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So we have an excellent starting
platform for which to
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contemplate what was done when
the Lord Jesus Christ died for
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our sins according to the
Scriptures.
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We start with one who is by his
own confession and in his own
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pleasure Son of God, who came to
do His Father’s will, and who
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did nothing of Himself.
We start with one, however, who
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is unlike us in this important
particular that his Father is
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not like our fathers, that he
had no immediate human Father,
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that he became the being he was
born as, because the Holy.
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Spirit came upon his mother.
And the power of the Most High
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overshadowed her, so that for
that reason her child could and
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must be called the Son of God.
Now they will rewrite that story
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in the interest of the doctrine
of the Trinity, and they will
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say that the Lord Jesus Christ
was but the manifestation.
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In flesh of God, eternally pre.
Existent.
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They will tell us that the birth
of the Lord Jesus Christ wasn’t
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really like what we understand
by our naive acceptance of Luke
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chapter one, but was something
like this invent problems for
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themselves in doing so, For they
say God has always been a
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triune.
Being and in that being there
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are three.
For one of a better term we call
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it English persons, and that
those persons are to be known as
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God the Father, God the Son, and
God the Holy Ghost or Spirit.
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And that it was long ages ago,
in the harmony of their divine
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councils, that it was decided
that person called God the Son,
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should come to the earth and
become also men.
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They do not, when they’re
speaking carefully, speak of the
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birth of Christ, they speak of
His incarnation.
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He’s putting on a flesh.
And they tell us that as far as
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we can understand such things,
the real circumstances were that
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eternal God, the second person
of the Godhead, voluntarily
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entered within the body of the
Virgin and took flesh from her
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womb and became also man.
So what emerged into the
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daylight of publicity when the
Lord was 30 human years old, was
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somebody whom, distastefully
they sometimes call the God man,
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no less God than he was man.
Perfectly both mount together in
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one being, and the choice of
both, in that nothing could go
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wrong with the God, and nothing
did go wrong with his manhood.
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And of course, by that day they
obliged themselves to admit when
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they are speaking candidly, that
the Lord was not what the Bible
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says.
He was made in all points like
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unto his brethren, but he was
not what the Bible says.
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He was tempted in all points,
like as we are, yet without sin,
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that he did not undergo the
experiences in needings of tight
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temptation that you and I do,
For how could he, even though in
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his manhood?
He was by his own choice weak
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and frail, and capable of
suffering and sorrow, as well as
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joy and hunger, as well as
repretion.
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Yet in all the things that
belong to his manhood there lies
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in control and unavoidable.
His divinity would say He was,
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is, and remains God.
And God, we know, cannot be
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tempted with evil.
Neither tempteth he any man, And
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it is an essential part of the
fact that it be a fact that
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Jesus Christ is God, that he
should not be able to respond to
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the forces of evil.
The temptation as we know the
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Word could be no part of his
experiences, if I can put it
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crudely, even if the manly side
nature of the nature of the Lord
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Jesus Christ had felt that he
urged to do what man likes to do
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the godless, I couldn’t have let
him, for God cannot sin and that
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man well complete, all of him
was God and man.
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So logically and strictly and in
some cases quite admittedly,
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they can’t accept the real
temptations of the Lord
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sufferings.
Yes, death by some means that
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none of us can understand.
Yes, that too they accept but
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temptations, in the sense that
he might have yielded, that
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yielding was possible.
The battle had to be fought to
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maintain his righteousness.
That cannot be a part of
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Trinitarian teaching, but it can
be a part of ours.
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It can and must be a part of
ours.
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The great glory of our
understanding of the Lord Jesus
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Christ, which they don’t like us
to have, is that we can stand
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back and look.
But him who sits now at the
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right hand of God, with marks in
hand and feet inside, and
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possibly the scars of the crown
of thorns, and the residue of
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the wheels wrought by the lashes
that lashed his back, we can
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look at the Lord Jesus Christ
and triumph in him, and say thou
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art worthy.
For thou was slain, and has to
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redeem this unto God by thy
blood, out of every kindred and
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tribe and people and tongue, and
we can acclaim his victory.
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And so there sits one who
against all the human odds won.
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Through there sits one who, when
we would many times, almost
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always in the same
circumstances.
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Have yielded ourselves to the
desires of the flesh, kept them
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at Bay, kept them tame, held
them in subjection, won his
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daily battles for God, being
tempted in all points like as we
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are, yet without sin.
Would you read with me the
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letter to the Hebrews Chapter 5
much of the earlier part of this
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passage?
We shall not need that.
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It’s needed to give us a a
connected recitation.
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So I’d like to begin at the
beginning and go as far as verse
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10, Hebrews 5, the 1st 10
verses.
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For every high priest taken from
among men is ordained from men
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in things pertaining to God,
that he may offer both gifts and
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sacrifices for sins, who can
have compassion or be ignorant,
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and on them that are out of the
way.
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For that he himself also is
compassed with infirmity, and by
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reason thereof he ought, As for
the people so also for himself,
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to offer for sins.
And no man taketh dishonor upon
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himself, but he that is called
of God, as was Aaron.
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So also Christ glorified not
himself to be made a high
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priest, but he that said unto
him, Thou art my son this day
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have I begotten thee, as he said
also in another place.
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Now the priest forever after the
honor of Melchizedek, who,
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that’s Jesus, who in there is of
his flesh, when he had offered
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up prayers and supplications
with strong crying and tears
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unto him, that was able to save
him from death, and was heard in
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that he feared though he were a
son, yet learned his obedience
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by the things that he suffered.
And being made perfect, he
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became the awful eternal
salvation, and to all them that
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obey him called of God and high
priest.
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After the order of Melchizedek.
In those messages, we begin with
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the Lord Jesus Christ preparing
for and acquiring the office of
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priesthood.
We know.
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That.
He know more.
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Than anybody else took it upon
himself without being asked that
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he, like Aaron, waited to be
asked before he did it.
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And as God had appointed Aaron
for the temporary office,
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discharged by himself and his
successors as high priests over
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Tabernacle and then temple, so
the Lord Jesus Christ bided the
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time.
Till the Lord declared it to be
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right that the priesthood should
change and accepted the office.
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When it came to him, he did not
glorify himself to being a high
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priest.
He did not grasp that the office
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of being a high priest, he did
what God had wanted him to do,
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when beforehand he declared that
my son this day have I begotten
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thee, and again thou the priest
forever after the order of
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Melchizedek.
As with everything in his life,
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the Lord took what he was
offered by the one who offered
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it, to do the will of the one
who offered it, and became a
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high priest for God in things
pertaining to men.
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Now the words that follow, that
with strong crying and tears he
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called on him, that was able to
save him out of death, and was
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heard for his godly fear.
That’s the English revised
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version, revealed to us the
depths of what the Lord must
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suffer, and the dungeon of
hopelessness into which he must
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willingly sink, if he would
become the one who is to be our
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high Priest.
He sobbed, saw tears that God
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would strengthen him to
overcome, that the will of God
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should not fail in his hands,
that he should I accept his
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death in such a way that God
might save him out of death, and
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that he might become our
perfected high priest.
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Those words, though he were a
son, yet learned he obedience,
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see most as though they might
have been written.
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Then why should it not be so
with the prescience of God, who
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could see all things from the
beginning to provide an answer
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that cannot be gained, said for
the Orthodox of our own day.
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For they would say, because he
was a son, there could be no
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suffering of temptation, and he
would says, though he were a
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son, yet did he learn obedience
by the things that he suffered.
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He learned obedience the hard
way, as we would say, not your
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kind of hard way and mine.
When we learn obedience to the
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extent to which we do, we learn
it because we find out how
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painful it was to disobey.
We decided we’d rather not be
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hurt like that again, and so we
decide next time to do as we’re
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told.
But the Lord was not like that.
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He was never disobedient, but He
was never allowed, not ever
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wanted to find it easy to be
obedient.
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He learned obedience by the
things that he suffered,
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accepted steadfastly the path of
duty, whatever it cost, was
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prepared to endure the strong
crying and tears to which he was
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driven by the need to suffer in
the service of God, and did it
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faultlessly.
Suppose I asked you the
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question, Did Jesus Christ live
a perfect life?
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Unless you had been forewarned,
I think you would all say yes.
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Of course, if you’d heard me
perhaps others address this
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topic before, you might hesitate
a little and say, ah, he lived a
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life in which he did no sin.
He lived a thoughtless life.
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His behaviour from beginning to
end was spotless and I would say
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yes, that was a better way of
putting it.
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The word being perfect, or more
correctly, being perfected, is
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only used, I think, four times
about Jesus, once by him and
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three times about him.
The one by him is in Luke
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chapter 13.
Well, the advice to run away
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from the possible wrath of
Herod.
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He stays where he is and says to
them go tell that Fox, I do
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curse today and tomorrow and the
third day I shall be perfected
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and it seems.
That there is an intentional
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comparison there between the
Lord’s helping other people to
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get their bodies right.
I do curse today and tomorrow,
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and the Lord’s expectation that
shortly afterwards he will
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himself be perfected.
As though to admit that there
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was something falling just short
of perfect in his present
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condition, I said conditioned,
not behaviour.
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His behaviour was never.
Short of spotless, but I’ve
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scold myself, I’ll try to not to
use the word perfect about it,
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because the Bible doesn’t.
The Bible says the Lord expected
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to be perfected.
Not that he claimed to be
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perfect.
The Bible says that the Lord, in
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answer to the rich young man,
said, why call this army good?
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There is no good at one that is
gone.
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And that throughout his life the
Lord looked forward to a time
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when perfection would be His
that needs perhaps a self
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defensive word of explanation.
I don’t think there is a thing
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to be said against anything the
Lord did or said or entertained
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permanently in his thoughts.
Everything the Lord did and said
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and allowed to take root in his
mind was without fault.
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He did no sin.
Neither was guile found in his
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mouth.
But you don’t say things like
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that about the Lord without
realizing their implication.
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To say he did.
No sin will be meaningless.
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If he couldn’t, could.
Not have done any sin.
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To say he behaved faultlessly is
no commendation to him.
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He was bound to be faultlessly
to say he did always those
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things that pleased his father,
as he said himself.
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It would be an idol to boast if
he could do nothing else than
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please his father if the way he
was built was such that pleasing
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his father was part of his make
up.
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All.
Those things like he did no sin,
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that no guile was found in his
mouth, that he did always those
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things that please his Father,
that my need is to do the with
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him that sent me, and to finish
his work.
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They all rest inevitably, upon
the possibility that it could
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have been otherwise.
You don’t commend a man for
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being what he can’t help being.
You don’t say what a wonderful
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person you must be.
You were so handsome when you
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were born, which is quite
irrelevant.
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You say how well you have
behaved in face of the
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possibility that you might have
behaved differently.
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The example I gave in the first
talk that when the Lord insisted
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on being baptized, when he might
have accepted John’s suggestions
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to the contrary, he went into
and came out of the water, and
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the Spirit of God came to heaven
in the shape of a dog.
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And God said yes.
And God said, This is my beloved
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Son, in whom I am well pleased,
is an indication that that was a
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victory, that that was a
temptation overcome, an
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opportunity of declining from
God’s service, detected and
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perceived and rejected, so that
he might do what God wished him
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to do and do it flawlessly.
God couldn’t usefully have said
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I’m very pleased with him.
Unless he had done something
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which warranted the divine
pleasure, if you’re pleased
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with.
A.
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A mechanical thing that can’t do
anything else.
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It’s because you’ve made it
rather nicely, not because of
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any merits in the thing itself.
1 can be personally proud of a
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robot or any mechanical or
electronic object one makes
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because one has designed what is
needed to make it and done it
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right.
But in this instance, there was
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nothing robotic about it at all.
I am very pleased with the way
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my son behaves.
Is what the Father said.
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And that must mean that he had
it within his power to behave
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differently and didn’t do so.
I’ve only given you one of the
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four examples, the use of the
word perfect about Jesus.
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I’ll skip quickly through the
other three.
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They’re all in the letter to the
Hebrews, and perhaps you’ll know
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them so well that we won’t need
to turn them up.
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But one is in chapter 2 where we
read it became God in bringing
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many sons unto glory to make the
captain of their salvation
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perfect through sufferings
notice make him perfect.
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You start off with a captain of
our salvation who has not yet
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been made perfect and you
legitimately consents to be LED
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through a path that involves his
sufferings and at the end of
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that he has been made perfect.
That’s the meaning of the words,
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whatever the reality turns out
to be.
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The second is 1.
We just read in Hebrews chapter
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5 that though he were a.
Son yet learned the obedience by
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the things that he suffered, and
being made perfect, he became
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the author of eternal salvation
called of God and High Priest
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after the order of Melchizedek.
And there is, I think, there an
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intended contrast between the
Jewish high priests who being so
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compassed.
About with infirmities of their
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own could with shamed eloquence
plead for their own sins and the
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sins of others, when they went
before the throne of grace, in
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the shape of the most holy place
of the temple or Tabernacle.
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And this person who, wherever he
started, had got to the point
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where he had been made perfect
before he is called by God our
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High priest.
There’s much more to say about
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this in the last talk, but
perhaps we can anticipate to the
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extent that when the Lord Jesus
Christ having been made perfect,
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whatever that mean, did go into
God’s heavenly temple as our
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high priest.
He didn’t just spend a few hours
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there on one day of a year, but
he stayed there and sat down the
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right hand of God.
That was where he belonged and
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belongs, having been made
perfect.
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And the last example is in the
7th chapter, I think towards the
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end.
Well, we are told the law
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appointed high priests which
have intermity, but God
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appointed this one who has been
consecrated forevermore.
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What a pity, the King James
authorized.
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Version said consecrated.
He shouldn’t have done.
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It’s the same word.
It’s the only other the last
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occasion where the word
perfected is used about Jesus,
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and the Word of God’s author
appoints our High Priest
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perfected forevermore.
And you can see in broad
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outlines the programme laid out.
You start up with Jesus as he
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was born.
You go through Jesus as he lives
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and behaves.
You come to Jesus of his death.
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You see that he having died,
Lord Jesus Christ raised from
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the dead.
And ascending to the right hand
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of God.
And he said there now he has
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been perfected forevermore.
Nothing can ever go wrong with
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the perfected Christ.
How much more?
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Glorious, that is, than to see
the Lord Jesus Christ as the
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Trinitarians, see him as the
eternal God the Son, assuming
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flesh as well.
But still, being God beyond the
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reach of sinning, our Lord was
not beyond the reach of sinning
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at all.
He missed it at close quarters.
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He missed it because of who he
was.
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He already be cast as the letter
to the Romans can say about him
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what the law could not do in
that it was weak through the
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flesh.
God, sending his own Son in the
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likeness of flesh of sin, and as
an offering for sin in the
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flesh, condemned sin.
And I have purposely reworded
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that so that I didn’t have to
say that I’m going to say it now
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to dismiss it.
Sin in the flesh.
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In the flesh he overcame sin.
He defeated sin, because God had
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sent him in the kind of person
which made that necessary.
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The Lord was in the likeness of
flesh and sin, just like it made
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in all points like unto his
brethren, and though he were a
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son.
Yet.
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Learned he obedience by the
things that he suffered.
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We must, of course, give
examples.
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He was pour the Lord through
some of the temptations of his
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life and see how keen they were
and stand back and marvel at his
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victories.
We’ve done it already with his
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baptism.
We are left from that to his
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temptations in the wilderness.
Described in similar terms in
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Matthew chapter 4 and in Luke
chapter four.
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With one interesting difference,
that they’re not given in the
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same order.
And somebody perhaps will tell
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me why if I haven’t run the risk
of telling you why before this
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talk comes to an end.
But in Matthew they are Turn
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stones into bread.
Throw yourself down from this
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exalted place.
Worship me and take all the
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kingdoms of the world and then
Luke.
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The other two are reversed.
It’s turned stones into bread.
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Worship me and take the kingdoms
and throw yourself down from
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this exalted place.
The Matthew 1 looks more
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sequential, but the Lukeman is
there.
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It’s not the same sequence.
I don’t believe they contradict.
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As I say, I may get succumbed to
telling what I do think they do,
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but the moment all three are
there, let’s look at them, shall
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we?
In the Matthew Record.
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Matthew chapter 4.
The 1st 11 verses are the
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relevant verses, but we won’t
necessarily read right through
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it.
We learned that Jesus was led by
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the Spirit into the wilderness
to be tempted by the devil.
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Or in Matthew he was driven by
the Spirit into the wilderness
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to be tempted by the Devil.
That was in Mark.
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I’m sorry, that second one.
As though the Lord.
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Fresh from the victory of his
baptism, was obliged to meet his
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nature in the Roar and deal with
the temptations to which it
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might have succumbed.
Now I know there are alternative
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views of this passage.
And I know that those who are.
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Anxious to safeguard the total
righteousness of our Lord and I
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will yield to nobody.
And being anxious to do the same
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thing, sometimes feel it their
duty to deny that He could have
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thought about the things which I
hear suggested.
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And for that reason amongst
others, wish to take the record
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completely literally and make
that devil a person, so that
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there is a dialogue between
someone, whoever he is, or
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someone’s whoever they are, who
speak to the Lord and suggest a
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course of action.
I know, too, that such pieces
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may go further, and they say it
wasn’t really temptation.
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As you and I know it, he’s
rather a trial, a test, a dry
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run to see if he really was the
Son of God proves you as they
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say.
This person or person said that
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you really are the good son of
God by doing the appropriate
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signs that make it impossible to
deny it.
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Turn stones into bread, throw
yourself under harm from the
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pinnacle of the temple, and
assume some kind of authority.
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I’m not quite sure what this
could be over the kingdoms of
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the earth.
If you do that, we’ll be obliged
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to believe in you.
That’s what they say.
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And the tests then become not
tests of His integrity and His
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Holiness and His sinlessness,
but tests of his office, which,
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for other reasons, the Lord
rejected.
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I can’t see it that way, and I
don’t want to.
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I don’t mind if a voice from
outside spoke these words.
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If it is thought we must
construe Matthew poor and Luke
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for us, meaning that some other
person than the Lord came and
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spoke the words.
If you are the Son of God, turn
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these stones into bread.
If you are the Son of God, throw
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yourself down from this
pinnacle, and then all these
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things I will give you, you’ll
fall down and worship me.
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If it is found.
We must accept that those were
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spoken by somebody else.
I could live with those who
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accepted it like that, but it
doesn’t alter the case at all.
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It has its own problems in how
such a man, whoever he was,
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could have given the Lord all
the kingdoms of the earth, or
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could have induced the Lord to
believe that he might have done.
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But provided that we accept that
what I’ve always spoken was
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understood, perceived, felt, and
rejected, I have no problem
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believing that somebody else
might have said it.
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But whoever said it, when the
words, if thou be the Son of
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God, turned these stones into
bread, the Lord would not only
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have known what he meant, which
he obviously would.
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Not only know.
That he had the power to do it,
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Who would have felt the urge to
do it, will have met that urge
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and defeated it and gained a
victory.
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The record goes out of its way
to tell us it was very, very
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hungry.
After a 40 days passed and then
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he should put it in that way.
Who needs me in no doubt that it
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was an appeal to that hunger?
You don’t need to be hungry.
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All you have to do is to snap
your fingers and there’ll be a
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banquet made.
Out of stones, whatever that was
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by way of proving his office.
And it would have done something
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about that, I suppose.
It was an urge to the Lord to do
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this totally unacceptable thing
of taking the powers he
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possesses because he is Son of
God and using them without
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permission to ratify the hunger
he suffered from because he is
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Son of Man, turning God’s powers
to human usage gratuitously,
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without so much as a bag.
You leave and the Lord’s answer
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to that it is written.
Man doth not live by bread
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alone, but by every word that
proceedeth out of the mouth of
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God is an answer not just.
I won’t do it, but however
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tempting it may be, it would be
incompatible with my
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relationship with God.
Was every word I must follow
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Whose word is life.
Interesting that if you go back
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to the part of Deuteronomy which
the.
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Lord is there.
Quoted new light comes into its
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meaning.
The Lord thy God said, Do with
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manner in the wilderness, said
Moses, Do thy might just know
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them, and do not live by bread
alone, but by every word that
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proceedeth from the mouth of
God.
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God short, seconded the cross of
nature.
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When there was no food, the Lord
did what had there.
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Been food have taken you hours
and days and weeks to do.
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You have sown the seed.
The grain would have grown, the
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the shoots would have ripened,
the ears would have ripened on
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the shoots.
You would have harbited the
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grain.
You would have taken away the
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stalk.
You’d have winnered away the
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ears.
You’d have ground the grain.
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You will bake the flour, and
then you would have been able to
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eat it.
But the moment God says there’s
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your food thereby God proved his
power to feed in that and every
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other way.
The Lord Jesus Christ knew that
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To be faced with the possibility
of anticipating the need for
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that by using his own powers for
something he would not do, God
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will feed me when it pleases
Him, I’m sure, he said.
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And having said it once, he
could say it again, As for
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example when he talked to the.
Woman by the.
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Well, in Samaria John chapter 4
and his disciples went on into
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Psycho to buy bread and they
came back and they said master
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eat.
And the Lord who was too busy to
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eat at that time, talking to a
woman that was a Sinner and
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seeking to assuage her sins,
said, I have meat to eat that
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she know not of my meat, is to
do the will of him that sent me
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to finish his work.
And I wouldn’t.
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Be surprised if the Lord was
saying they’re not just I’d
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rather savour the will of God
than gratify my human appetites,
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Was also saying God can keep me
alive in any way that suits him
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while I’m engaged in His work.
He’s not critical.
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I should eat just now.
I can turn to that when this
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present meal is over, doing the
will of God.
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It’s a very.
Lovely thing, that each
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temptation the Lord endured in
the wilderness boy its fruits in
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later life.
And he who would not turn stones
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to bread on his own account
would not multiply food to take
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him through the journeys which
he must endure in the Lord’s
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service, but would wait till
somebody gave him a crust to
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eat, or rich women ministered to
Him of their substance.
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Or in the feeding of the 5000,
he and his disciples could pick
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up trolls, basket full of the
scraps they’d left behind, and
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might it be take them home for
supper, using what men had
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rejected, who was rich and for
our sakes became poor.
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So we lose so.
Much if we do not see that
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temptation as a temptation in
every sense of the term, all its
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attractions being plain to the
Lord, being seen and known and
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in the full knowledge of them
rejected, He don’t do any
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service to the Lord by imagine.
He couldn’t have thought of
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things like that, because if he
couldn’t have thought of them,
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they couldn’t have tempted him,
and he couldn’t have won a
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victory.
And so they could have been
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thought about, and they were a
temptation they would totally
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overcome.
And there’s a victory not down
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to the Lord’s credit, that
without that he would never have
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had.
It’s the same with the angels.
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How tempting it would have been,
having got to the pinnacle of
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the temple if he did literally
get there.
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To plunge himself down from that
with absolute assurance that
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he’ll give his angels charge
concerning thee, and in their
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hands they shall bare thee up.
This is anytime thou dash thy
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foot against a stone.
And throw himself down with an
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admiring multitude, gaping on
and wondering as he was safely
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parachuted to the ground by the
angels that God sent to ensure
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his safety.
Oh, it would have been a
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wonderful opportunity of acting
a drama before an appreciative
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and gobbling multitude, and
having them follow him for the
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wonders sake that he would not
do that then strengthen.
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Him I have.
No doubt against every other
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occasion to do related things
when they deserted him aside
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from heaven, and they wouldn’t
give them one.
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It’s the same with the kingdoms
of the world in a moment of
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time, which he saw.
I will repeat one thing about an
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earlier exposition of that in
order to give publicity to the
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mathematical acumen of our
chairman of today.
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It was some years ago and I
wanted to get a picture as to
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how far someone could see from a
real high mountain on a clear
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day if he could look around and
his eyesight was good.
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So for the sake of the occasion,
I imported Mount Everest into
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the wilderness of Judea, which
was the highest pinnacle I could
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think of, and approximated its
height to 6 miles, which is not
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quite right.
And then I told my audience that
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if the Lord Jesus Christ were
there, and he looked all around
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him and there was nothing in the
way, and his eyesight was
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perfect, there was no quasi Los
Angeles smog you could have seen
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for 220 miles.
We should have been less than
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1/4 of the way across the island
of Cyprus and, oh, maybe 1/6 of
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the way to Rome.
And my diligent, accurate,
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mathematical president, He
wasn’t president then came to us
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and said, you’ve got it wrong.
I said, oh, he said yes, it
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wasn’t 220 miles, it was 219.
Well, I was grateful for that.
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I’ve actually watched it out
myself before, and then I knew
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that.
I also knew that everyone isn’t
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exactly 6 miles high.
So it’s going to be a bit of a
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guess anyhow.
But the important thing is that
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if you’re seeing with your own
eyes what can be seen from any
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mountain, however high, you
couldn’t from the highest of
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them all see further than about
1/6 of the way to Rome and
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though.
You couldn’t.
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With your own unaided eyes,
you’ve seen anything like all
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the kingdoms of the world, of
the glory of them.
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You couldn’t see their capital
even.
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But it doesn’t matter.
By 1 means or another, the Lord
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upon his high mountain saw
clearly the kingdoms of the
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earth and the glory of them as.
Clear.
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As Ezekiel, upon the very high
mountain of chapter 40 of his
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book, saw the frame of the city
of Jerusalem as clearly as John
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in the vision of chapter 21 was
put on his high mountain, and
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saw the new Jerusalem coming
down from God out of the heaven
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that the Lord saw.
In whatever world the Lord does
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see things, and was given the
opportunity.
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Take it, take it now take it the
quick way.
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Don’t worry about the sufferings
and declined to do so.
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Thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God, and him alone shalt thou
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serve.
That must be a great strength to
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him when they came and tried to
take him by force and make him a
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king after the feeding of the
5000.
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He must with the second case,
have been a great precedent for
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him.
When later, as he came mounted
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upon a donkey through the walls
of Jerusalem, they spread their
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garments and their palm these in
the way, and called Hosanna in
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the highest Blessed be the
Kingdom of David, blessed be he
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that cometh in the name of the
Lord on all three.
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Occasions.
He rejected the kingdoms in the
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terms in which they offered it.
My Kingdom is not of this world.
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If my Kingdom were of this
world, then would my servants
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fight?
So whatever you think about the.
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Mechanism whereby the Lord was
tempted in the wilderness.
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Don’t plead a little attempt to
whittle away its temptation.
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For if you do, you whittle away
the victory.
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You can’t see the Lord’s utter
overcoming of the things of this
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life which He could savor
because He came in the likeness
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flesh of sin.
He learned the videos by the.
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Things that he suffered.
Suffered from the enemies that
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wouldn’t believe in him.
Suffer from those who mocked
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00:38:12,960 –> 00:38:16,280
him, Suffered from the hunger.
And thirst and sorrow that came
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00:38:16,280 –> 00:38:18,720
to him and suffered ultimately
upon the cross.
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00:38:19,160 –> 00:38:22,120
The Lord’s obedience was hard,
won every inch of the way
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00:38:22,680 –> 00:38:26,080
against every possible
temptation, and yielded not a
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00:38:26,080 –> 00:38:28,600
wit.
I said there were others.
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00:38:29,600 –> 00:38:32,520
Of course there were.
It would have been a temptation,
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00:38:32,520 –> 00:38:35,640
wouldn’t it, when the sons of
Zebedee said to him.
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00:38:35,960 –> 00:38:37,800
Look at those horrible.
Samaritans, it won’t give you a
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00:38:37,800 –> 00:38:39,880
home for the night just because
you’re going to Jerusalem.
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00:38:40,040 –> 00:38:42,880
Shall we destroy them?
Shall we call down fire from
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00:38:42,880 –> 00:38:44,600
heaven and consume them as
Elijah did?
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00:38:45,560 –> 00:38:49,960
Lord must have known the
feelings inside the heart of
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00:38:49,960 –> 00:38:54,200
those who come in flesh of sin,
who want vengeance and redress,
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00:38:54,760 –> 00:38:57,000
so he must have.
Fought that and answered it for
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00:38:57,000 –> 00:39:00,400
himself before he said to them,
You know not what spirit you are
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00:39:00,400 –> 00:39:02,080
of.
The Son of man has not come to
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00:39:02,080 –> 00:39:03,920
destroy man’s life, but to save
them.
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00:39:03,920 –> 00:39:07,280
There would have been temptation
of some kind when they said get
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00:39:07,560 –> 00:39:09,800
out of this place, go hell
looking to kill you.
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00:39:10,320 –> 00:39:13,480
Until he stayed where he was.
There must have been temptation.
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00:39:13,480 –> 00:39:15,920
When they said, let Christ the
King of Israel come down from
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00:39:15,920 –> 00:39:19,160
the cross, and he didn’t take
the opportunity, he might have
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00:39:19,160 –> 00:39:21,320
done so.
There must have been temptation
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00:39:21,320 –> 00:39:24,680
when Peters obviously failed
with his one single blade in the
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00:39:24,680 –> 00:39:27,440
Garden of Gethsemane, and the
Lord could remind him up there
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00:39:27,440 –> 00:39:30,000
there are more than 12 legions
of angels I could have done if I
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00:39:30,000 –> 00:39:34,720
wanted to save me from the
dunes, and in not using them.
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00:39:35,200 –> 00:39:39,440
He must have decided not to use
them, maintain this decision not
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00:39:39,440 –> 00:39:43,080
to use them, refused to make
take advantage of the powers
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00:39:43,080 –> 00:39:46,520
that were his, that is face
temptation, and beaten.
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00:39:46,520 –> 00:39:50,600
It once referred to one actual
example and one well, they’re
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00:39:50,600 –> 00:39:53,840
really both examples of the way
in which the Lord’s faced and
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00:39:53,840 –> 00:39:56,680
defeated temptation.
The 1st I’ll take from John
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00:39:56,680 –> 00:40:01,680
chapter 12.
I don’t know why more.
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00:40:01,680 –> 00:40:03,760
Use isn’t made of this because
it doesn’t.
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00:40:04,400 –> 00:40:07,240
It does something that needs to
be done about the temptation of
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00:40:07,240 –> 00:40:09,520
the Lord.
And I don’t think it can be.
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00:40:09,520 –> 00:40:14,920
Again said in John chapter 12,
verse 25.
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00:40:14,920 –> 00:40:19,920
The Lord in verse 24 indeed
compares his own life, and the
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00:40:19,920 –> 00:40:22,840
fruits of it to a grain of
wheat, falling into the ground
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00:40:22,840 –> 00:40:25,720
and dying, and then emerging
from its death with abundant
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00:40:25,720 –> 00:40:29,000
fruitfulness.
And he sees him that the death
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00:40:29,000 –> 00:40:32,720
is shortly going to die, as it
were, reminds himself of it,
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00:40:32,720 –> 00:40:36,920
comes, brings it freshly to his
mind, opens his diary, and sees
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00:40:36,960 –> 00:40:40,240
what he’s going to have to do.
And by that very.
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00:40:40,240 –> 00:40:43,160
Fact, He’s reminded of what that
suffering will be and how hard
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00:40:43,160 –> 00:40:48,680
it will be to overcome.
But he says in verse 27, Now is
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00:40:48,680 –> 00:40:53,440
my soul troubled.
And what shall I say, Father?
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00:40:53,440 –> 00:40:56,080
Save me from this hour.
Look for this purpose.
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00:40:56,080 –> 00:41:00,000
Go around to this hour, Father.
Glorify thy name.
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00:41:01,400 –> 00:41:03,280
Now, I’m sure there were plenty
of people listening when the
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00:41:03,280 –> 00:41:06,240
Lord said that, but he wasn’t
talking, as it were, to an
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00:41:06,240 –> 00:41:08,880
audience.
He was like laying bare his
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00:41:08,880 –> 00:41:12,320
inmost feelings.
But as death loomed so close
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00:41:12,320 –> 00:41:15,000
before him, he confessed to what
it felt like.
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00:41:15,760 –> 00:41:21,000
Now is my soul troubled?
There are two things I might
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00:41:21,000 –> 00:41:24,120
say.
One is Father saved me from this
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00:41:24,120 –> 00:41:26,360
hour.
The other I’ll come to in a
703
00:41:26,360 –> 00:41:30,520
moment, but the Lord should be
able to enunciate those words,
704
00:41:30,520 –> 00:41:35,640
shows that he could feel the
possibility of saying that, see
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00:41:35,640 –> 00:41:40,040
the human desirability of saying
it, view it as an escape from
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00:41:40,040 –> 00:41:43,280
the troublings of his soul.
Is that the way I will take?
707
00:41:43,800 –> 00:41:46,880
He asks.
And then he answers himself and
708
00:41:46,880 –> 00:41:50,320
says But This is why I’m.
Here, that’s the purpose of
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00:41:50,320 –> 00:41:52,360
which I came.
If I were to say that, that
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00:41:52,360 –> 00:41:54,120
would frustrate the purposes of
God.
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00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:57,760
And as it were, I won’t do it.
This is what I will say, and I
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00:41:57,760 –> 00:42:00,400
will endure the sufferings and
the troublings, and let the
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00:42:00,400 –> 00:42:02,560
Father lead me.
In so doing, I will leave my
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00:42:02,560 –> 00:42:06,120
death in His hands.
I will put away the last urge to
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00:42:06,120 –> 00:42:10,480
go any other way than His.
I will glorify His name by
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00:42:10,480 –> 00:42:13,760
putting away all the rebellious
and proud desires of the frack
717
00:42:13,760 –> 00:42:17,120
pledge.
I will die that the Father’s
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00:42:17,120 –> 00:42:20,920
glory in my unbroken
righteousness shall be fully
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00:42:20,920 –> 00:42:23,760
established.
And when the Father said in
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00:42:23,760 –> 00:42:27,760
reply to, that I have both
glorified it, glorified my name,
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00:42:28,320 –> 00:42:31,760
and I will glorify it again,
whatever ignorant people
722
00:42:31,760 –> 00:42:36,080
standing by might think about
it, or some said it thunders the
723
00:42:36,080 –> 00:42:38,640
other said, an Angel spoke to
him.
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00:42:39,240 –> 00:42:41,520
The Lord knew that the Father,
who was well pleased with his
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00:42:41,520 –> 00:42:44,840
baptism some years earlier, was
now well pleased with his
726
00:42:44,840 –> 00:42:48,400
resignation and surrender again,
would not fail him when called
727
00:42:48,400 –> 00:42:50,600
upon, and will establish his
glory.
728
00:42:50,600 –> 00:42:54,120
When the work succeeded, the
Lord died willingly.
729
00:42:54,920 –> 00:42:57,680
But who was the cup He asked to
pass from him, if it were
730
00:42:57,680 –> 00:43:00,560
possible, when he prayed those
words in the garden?
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00:43:01,160 –> 00:43:03,840
Father, if it be possible, let
this cup pass from me.
732
00:43:04,240 –> 00:43:06,760
Nevertheless, not my will, but
thine be done.
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00:43:07,360 –> 00:43:10,200
His first desire was that God’s
will should be paramount.
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00:43:10,640 –> 00:43:12,720
No human will should interfere
with it.
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00:43:13,480 –> 00:43:16,640
He may have wanted, perhaps,
that the Father should remain
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00:43:16,640 –> 00:43:20,120
with him to the end.
He should face death with his
737
00:43:20,120 –> 00:43:23,800
hand in the hand of the one who
suckered him, for there should
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00:43:23,800 –> 00:43:27,800
be no period of desolation.
It would seem that the Angel who
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00:43:27,800 –> 00:43:31,160
appeared to strengthen him
showed to him that, however deep
740
00:43:31,160 –> 00:43:34,440
and great and loving the
Father’s concern, even that
741
00:43:34,440 –> 00:43:37,440
should be endured.
This separation from his father,
742
00:43:37,960 –> 00:43:41,400
to make his death to sin
complete, to cause him willingly
743
00:43:41,400 –> 00:43:46,520
to die as a criminal might die
to be hung, as Deuteronomy had
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00:43:46,520 –> 00:43:50,440
put it, upon a tree, Behold be.
Taken down that day.
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00:43:51,680 –> 00:43:54,520
So there was at that stage run
from his lips to cry.
746
00:43:54,760 –> 00:44:00,040
My God, my God, why hast thou
forsaken, not questioning the
747
00:44:00,040 –> 00:44:04,720
reason, but finding so painful
the fact that the cry could not
748
00:44:04,720 –> 00:44:08,160
be suppressed?
How dreadful is it to die alone?
749
00:44:08,240 –> 00:44:11,320
He said.
So In the darkness that fell
750
00:44:11,320 –> 00:44:15,880
upon the earth, the Lord endured
his sufferings in silence and in
751
00:44:15,880 –> 00:44:20,200
sadness and in separation, until
at last the time appointed came.
752
00:44:20,840 –> 00:44:25,880
And seeking not to continue in
this now fast ebbing life, he
753
00:44:25,880 –> 00:44:28,840
willingly gave it up.
He gave up the Spirit.
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00:44:29,160 –> 00:44:33,080
Having cried, it is finished.
Father, into thy hands.
755
00:44:33,080 –> 00:44:37,040
I commend my spirit as though he
flung out into the darkness the
756
00:44:37,040 –> 00:44:40,080
life that he had carried,
knowing that there was one there
757
00:44:40,080 –> 00:44:44,960
who, however little felt now was
still waiting, watching, loving,
758
00:44:45,480 –> 00:44:48,400
ready to help.
Into thy hands I commend my
759
00:44:48,400 –> 00:44:51,000
spirit.
His death was placed in God’s
760
00:44:51,000 –> 00:44:53,320
hand.
His life in God’s mercy and
761
00:44:53,320 –> 00:44:58,080
faithfulness he became obedient
unto death, even the death of
762
00:44:58,080 –> 00:45:01,080
the cross.
Now the Lord’s surrender could
763
00:45:01,080 –> 00:45:04,000
never be reversed.
Now it’s last period have been
764
00:45:04,000 –> 00:45:07,120
put in place.
Now the Lord would rest in peace
765
00:45:07,120 –> 00:45:12,000
and in purity until that time so
very short ahead, and the Lord
766
00:45:12,000 –> 00:45:15,080
would raise him from the dead.
All had been surrendered.
767
00:45:15,680 –> 00:45:18,640
All might now without peril to
God’s glory be granted.
768
00:45:19,160 –> 00:45:23,680
God in Jesus will be All in all.
Wherefore God also hath highly
769
00:45:23,680 –> 00:45:27,120
exalted him, and given him the
name which is above every name.
770
00:45:27,640 –> 00:45:31,040
But at the name of Jesus every
knee should bow of things in
771
00:45:31,040 –> 00:45:35,280
heaven, and things in earth, and
things under the earth, and that
772
00:45:35,280 –> 00:45:38,160
every time should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord.
773
00:45:38,720 –> 00:45:43,360
To the glory of God the Father.
I have glorified thy name thus
774
00:45:43,360 –> 00:45:46,320
far.
The Lord had seemed to say, It
775
00:45:46,320 –> 00:45:48,440
shall now be glorious forever
through you.
776
00:45:49,080 –> 00:45:53,280
God says to him, Now is his
glorious reply, The Lord can be
777
00:45:53,280 –> 00:45:55,760
given the greatness and the
titles that belong to his
778
00:45:55,760 –> 00:45:58,120
Father.
Yet the greatness and the title,
779
00:45:58,120 –> 00:46:00,480
even in that giving, will remain
his Father still.
780
00:46:01,320 –> 00:46:05,640
The Holy will not give and lose.
When the Lord takes, the Father
781
00:46:05,640 –> 00:46:08,360
will give to the Son, whom He
will never lose.
782
00:46:08,680 –> 00:46:11,640
The Father and Son working
together will work out the
783
00:46:11,640 –> 00:46:15,600
purposes of God, the Alpha and
the Omega, the beginning and the
784
00:46:15,600 –> 00:46:19,120
end, the first and the last,
which was always the power.
785
00:46:19,600 –> 00:46:21,720
Our titles now which in the Book
of Revelation.
786
00:46:22,000 –> 00:46:26,480
The Son also can share having
been highly exhausted Him and as
787
00:46:26,480 –> 00:46:30,280
Matthew put it, all power having
been given unto Him in heaven
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00:46:30,960 –> 00:46:46,560
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00:46:46,560 –> 00:46:48,160
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