048: Darren Tappouras – Least and Greatest in the Kingdom

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Welcome to the good Christian
talks podcast.

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I’m Levi and I’m Chris.
Thank you so much for joining us

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this week on this podcast.
We select one taco week to help

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each one of us get the Bible in
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We post at the start of each
week for you to listen.

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With a short intro before hand
to kind of set the stage for the

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talk.
You’re about to hear and now

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let’s hear more about this
week’s talk.

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This class comes from a series
called looking forward to the

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Judgment seat by Brother Darren
tabris.

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He presented it at in 2013 at
the Busselton Bible School in

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Australia.
I found this whole series

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incredibly compelling really
really enjoyed the whole series

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and Chris and I talked about
that.

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It’s a fun.
It’s a fun problem when you have

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a trouble picking one class from
the Is this is definite one will

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put on the extended podcast to
include the whole series.

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It’s just a practical study on
what the Judgment seat will be

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actually like and I think
there’s an overall theme isn’t

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kind of mentioned it but every
class he doesn’t say this

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specifically but every class he
Compares multiple ideas about

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the same thing and you’ll see
that in this class the idea of

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the This is class 3 from the
series the least and greatest in

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the kingdom and kind of
examining the idea of variable

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rewards and how do we understand
that how do we understand that

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there’s some verses that say
we’ll all be in the Kingdom will

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be equal but then there’s
Parables and other verses that

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talk about the variable reward
that will be given to us.

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So again, this was just a great
study because he does the same

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thing with like the speed of the
That’s kind of the first and

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second class comparing the ideas
in the in the Bible that we have

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about the Judgment seat.
Where is it an instantaneous

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thing or is it a long drawn-out
process at the Judgment?

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Because there’s versus that
Stack Up on both sides of that

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and then also looks at the book
the concept of The Book of Life.

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Are you permanently written in
the Book of Life or is The Book

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of Life something you can be
taken out of so and And yeah, he

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makes a point in the first
class, which said there is no

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clear.
Like we don’t have a judgment

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chapter like we do, you know
faith in Hebrews 11 or the

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resurrection and foreskin is 15.
We don’t have you know, love we

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don’t have a classic judgment
chapter.

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You have to kind of pull
together different ideas from

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different parts of the Bible and
that makes for an interesting

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study and it makes for really a
variance of opinions on what

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this is going to be like I would
definitely suggest If you if you

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want to listen to another one
left to listen to the first

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class, that was my other other
option in my head for posting

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this but because that’s where he
examines that two different

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concepts of the Judgment seat.
So anyways, this was a really

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really compelling really
interesting series.

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He is very easy to listen to
brother Tetris and I hope you

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enjoy this one.
This is the least and the

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greatest in the Kingdom.
Thanks for the rush.

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Well and good morning.
Once again, everybody excellent.

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My voice is a little bit croaky.
So try and conserve as much as I

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can and not yell at you too much
as we go through all that study.

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This morning is called works and
rewards and it’s a suppose we’re

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building on some of the concepts
we laid yesterday.

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So we’ll continue on with this
consideration of how these

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things all play out at the
Judgment seat.

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Just a couple of spies initial
Concepts and some of the ideas

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are going to set the scene for
our investigation this morning

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all our lives.
I suppose we’ve grown up.

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It’s been drummed into us that
we are saved by grace.

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We are saved through faith, and
we’ve told over and over again

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that salvation is a gift and
we’re not saved by works.

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We can earn our Salvation.
We can’t impress god with our

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works to sort of gets a little
Nation by that in that method we

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can’t do Works to sort of earn
brownie points or to build up

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the balance sheet on one side of
The Ledger or the other and we

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know we know these things we’ve
been we’ve had these things

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taught to us in school kids in
some regard and yet and yet also

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we’ve come across many many
references in scripture and it’s

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been references throughout our
life as well that our works are

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balled up at the Judgment see in
the works of sort of front and

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center at the Judgment seat.
So there’s this sort of conflict

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there in our thinking to some
degree.

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How do we how do we reconcile
these these ideas and these

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Concepts and even you know today
amongst that you know, I’ve got

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teenage kids were all even older
than teenage kids and I’d have a

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little bit of do with young
people’s groups and young people

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find this as a bit of a
struggle, you know, the idea

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that you know, your works is
almost a dirty word, you know to

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say things about works and and
and in any way employing that

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works have any involvement in
our in the Judgment seat or

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anything like that.
So it’s a it’s a it’s there is a

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Moment of confusion in all this
to some degree.

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So hopefully we might try and
clear some of that up today and

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we’ll see that works are closely
associated with the Judgment

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seat and yet the concepts that
we’ve we know a true of that

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works don’t sort of earn
salvation rule is also true as

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well and hopefully that will
come through in what we look at.

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We’re as I said, we’re going to
build on some of the concepts.

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We looked at yesterday.
We sort of look at this idea

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that there are scripture records
two types of recordings of our

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life The Book of Life in which
our name is in and we saw from

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Revelation 20 that the verdict
about whether we are in the

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Kingdom or not, whether we are
saved or not whether we are

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rejected or not is based on the
book of life and I’m being in

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that book and yet we saw in that
judgment seat seen that the

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books of our life are opened as
well and we were judged

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according to The things written
in the books plural, so we need

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to sort of try and reconcile
that a little bit this morning

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as well.
But what we what we have tried

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to do in the previous session is
as opposed show that the the

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verdict about our salvation is
based on Grace, but at the

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Judgment seat our works are
still considered and and in

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there is a decision made about
those works and there is a an

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evaluation of those Works made.
which is In some way separate

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from the verdict of Salvation.
So let’s try and build on that a

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little bit this morning and I’m
going to introduce this concept

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now that will then we’ll sort of
follow through in the rest of

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our studies this idea that if
their name is in the Book of

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Life to use this this word
picture this analogy, I’ve sort

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of said, well, we are in a Zone
here that I’ve just called The

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Pale of Salvation.
We are in God’s Plan of

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Salvation.
We are in essence we are saved

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in that It’s not the of course
ultimately that we haven’t been

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given immortality and there’s
always still the possibility we

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could make shipwreck of our
faith Etc.

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But while we remain in this book
of life or this pail of

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Salvation, we are in the will be
accepted by our lord and there

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are some conditions put on this
idea and we’re going to look at

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these quotes in John John to and
John for ETC that talk about we

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are we can have confidence that
the Judgment seat if we abide in

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the lights.
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sorry if we abide in him, so
we’re going to try and look at

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what that means is we go through
as well.

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So if we are in the Book of
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We will be recipients of God’s
Grace will be in the Kingdom.

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However, the reality is our name
can be removed from that book

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and we saw that referred to in
some of those verses that I got

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to to read yesterday and then
can be removed which means we

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are taken out of that zone if
you like out of that pail of

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Salvation and we got many
examples in scripture of people

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who either deliberately made a
choice to walk out of that zone

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and to leave that zone of
Salvation or who drifted out of

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that zone all The very behavior
and attitude deems them to have

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left that zone in God’s eye.
So Judas for example went out

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and there’s a point made about
that that he went out and it was

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dark, you know, we went out into
the world and he rejected the

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light he was instead of abiding
in the light in the presence of

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his Lord.
He went out and put himself

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outside that the prodigal son in
the parable in Luke 15.

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He goes out from his father’s
house and he wants to wants to

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sample the world.
So he leaves physically in that

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Parable goes out into a world of
darkness in that sense and then

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comes to his senses later on and
comes back in to the family and

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there are many other warnings in
scripture of people who are

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either, you know in a path in a
decline that is eventually going

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to lead to them being outside
that zone as well and you know

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outside God’s pale of salvation.
So what just to quickly recap

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what we looked at in our first
session, we sort of said the

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normal view of the Judgment seat
is this idea.

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We give account we receive
praise and admonition and we are

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accepted and rejected and we
sort of said well, maybe based

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on the parable of the sheep and
goats Works slightly differently

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that we are accepted or rejected
we give account and then there’s

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this receiving praise and
admonition is a final part of

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the process and it’s probably a
part that I personally haven’t

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given much I thought too because
I suppose I’ve sort of grown up

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with the sort of binary view of
the Judgment seat.

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It’s a verdict based process
that you’re in all out.

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And that’s the sort of
terminology at the judges are

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going to be in or out in or out
and that’s really all that.

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I thought about the Judgment
around in or out and it’s really

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more than just in or out it’s
much more layer than that.

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And there’s this this concept of
being rewarded at the Judgment

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seat that I haven’t really taken
that that seriously because all

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I’ve been concerned about his in
or out and whether you know, I

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couldn’t really Care less about
being rewarded or having praise

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given to me.
It’s been just about in or out

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has been the focus of my
particular view this quickly

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flick through here.
I suppose that the Judgment seat

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conjures up for most of us the
idea of a court and I suppose

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that’s the closest analogy we
have when we try and picture the

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judges little think about the
Judgment see and even the word

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itself judgment seat.
That’s it conjures up a legal

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context.
However, I’m going to suggest

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that it’s not the best analogy
to use when we think about what

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is actually taking place at the
Judgment seat.

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There are some major
differences.

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Major differences which make
that in that analogy a flawed

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analogy really when we try and
relate it to the Judgment seat

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the judges.
He’s not like a human Court in a

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number of very fundamental ways.
One of the big differences is

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the judge already knows you now
in a human Court situation which

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human courts trying to arrive at
a verdict.

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That’s that’s the whole sort of
reason it’s established and held

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because all the evidence is
going to be presented.

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And an impartial judge is going
to listen to one side or the

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other the prosecutor or the
defendant and he’s going to make

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a final verdict on something.
That’s our idea of a courtesan.

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So the channeling everything to
it to this final result.

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And so the judge is not allowed
to know you in that case.

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It’s got to be a blank canvas is
working with him and even to

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extremes that are you know
rapists in who’s committed rape

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before you can’t even bring up
that that he’s done it before in

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some cases because it would be
prejudicial to the particular

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case being examined at A
particular time in a judge has

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to recuse themselves or stand
down if there’s any connection

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with the defendant in any way at
all so that is a that that the

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concept in the end.
The objective of a human court

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is not really analogous to
what’s going on at the at our

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judgment seat.
And there’s this other Factor as

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well that’s got to be brought to
account here in our sort of

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coming to grips with this.
We are already By virtue of the

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fact that we are in Christ.
We are already declared

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righteous.
That would righteous is many of

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us know our legal term.
That means that we’ve already

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been declared right or or
innocent or have you know,

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there’s the Slate has been clean
really our garments are washed

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in the blood of the Lamb.
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So how does that also play out
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well?
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interesting differences to you
know, Romans 8 makes things big

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point at the end of Romans 8 who
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of God’s elect in essence.
There’s no prosecutor at the

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Divine sort of judgment seat.
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isn’t a human Court who who sort
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the evidence against us.
The question is asked who is at

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the Judgment who’s laying any
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elect is a God.
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No, it’s not God he just is One
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He’s justifying us.
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making intercession for us.
He’s our defense attorney if you

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if you like so that the whole
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the human cord analogy and I and
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many of us have at the Judgment
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flawed as will see another
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probably closer.
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No analogy is a perfect but this
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Her to what is actually been
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a concept of a performance
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of you all are aware of it.
Not every job has these sorts of

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if you work for a big like a
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pharmaceutical company or some
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Department.
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what’s called an evaluation
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it’s often either annually and
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Now a performance review you sit
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and your immediate supervisor
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done and what you may not have
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of your role.
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bought out things like kpi’s
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that you have.
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all these things are examined
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brought to your attention
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haven’t met them with your
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done and you know the goals that
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review was sort of analyzed as
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this process.
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performance review is not to
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cases.
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more with their labor laws are a
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ours that you know your
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supervisor.
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and get out of here, you know,
so that that is an extreme

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result of a performance review,
but that’s not the objective nor

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is it really what the
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The performance review is trying
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improve your performance which
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increases the performance of the
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eventually the company and the
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So there’s a in our world.
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it.
It’s Trying to better you in

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order to better the results of
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We’re going to see there’s a
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and it’s not just a Judicial
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There is this this concept of
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bringing us to Glory at all part
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So as we said one of the
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performance review understand
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blind spots in that regard and
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appreciates that so you identify
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to overcome them.
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your own weaknesses in offering
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So I just always right, you
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those sort of, you know, give
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hard, but say so we got to try
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Not the not the ones we’re
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to come under scrutiny in any
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We don’t like it at all.
It’s and and I’ve hope in any of

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my presentation so far haven’t
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seat at all.
I think, you know, it’s even

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taking into account the quotes
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four about boldness and
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There’s a there’s a context
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language there that we’ve got to
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It won’t be a walk in the park
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It’ll be a You know, the word
fear is used in relationship to

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the judgments that we’ll talk
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Terran it nonetheless and there
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And that no one even knew that
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I remember when I worked for a
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performance reviews.
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your performance review is very
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I mean I used to I couldn’t eat
breakfast that morning now if

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those are you know me now,
that’s a pretty big deal.

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That’s a pretty a pretty big
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So I was so turned up I couldn’t
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If you know that walk past all
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stressful thing to have a
performance review back but deep

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down as many people he had a
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So if you have not yet been
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you know, you know, it’s not fun
and you’re not looking forward

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to and you if you could skip it
you would take the option but

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you deep down know it’s actually
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I’m not you know, you might have
a boss is a psychopath and

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immediate night.
I understand that but on the

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whole generally we know it’s for
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Good and even when things are
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done wrong or we’ve failed we
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right or she’s right when that’s
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We know that we know where we
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This is bored out.
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make that go away or reduce it
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if you work for an American type
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company, there are bonuses and
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we’ll bring that up as well in
as we continue on with this

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analogy.
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little bit uncomfortable that
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really like that that much and
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The Parables again and this
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parable of the pounds and the
parable of the talents and in

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the sense you can see this
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it?
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got time at Matthew 25.
The three servants are brought

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in and they have to settle their
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they’ve done with their Lords
resources while he’s been away

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and also Luke 19 with the ten
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each.
They told to occupy till I come

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on which means to do business
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called in and their performance
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So there is a there is a sense
that that is quite a genuine

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analogy to use and When I think
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been achieved then the court
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So this brings us back to our
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looking at the the connection
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trying to reconcile these ideas.
Look, we’re going to build on

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these this this chart a little
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aspect of this Charter haven’t
really gone explained or gone

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into yet.
But basically we ask the

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question.
Why do we have this second stage

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of the Judgment?
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true that there is this sense
that we are accepted early on in

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the process like the parable of
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indicate and then a secondary
process we what’s the need for

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the secondary process.
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and give account involves
looking at our works or our

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actions in our life and also our
motives are examined.

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There’s no doubt about that.
And we going to look at this

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word fan arou that comes through
in all these judgment seat

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versus that that implies this
opening up in a revealing of our

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inner man.
So we that happens.

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Well, we’ve already identified
this as one of the objectives of

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that process to refine our
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Purge.
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immortality then that makes
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I think we all will get that and
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Mansfield’s ideas on the purpose
behind the Judgment see that

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came out very clearly this idea
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But there’s also another
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Which and again this is where
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sort of either cared about or
took seriously or or even sort

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of featured in my judgment seat
sort of view the idea of rewards

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and rebuke that the Judgment
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We are going to be rebuked and
rewarded and I think because we

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we have connected been rebuked
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We’ve connected that with
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And I think that’s where the
confusion for me has laid will

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be rebuked at the judge says no
doubt about that but doesn’t

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necessarily mean that we won’t
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and we’re gonna be praised for
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My goodness, how could I
possibly be praised for

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anything?
It doesn’t it sort of goes

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against I suppose everything
I’ve thought about before about

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the Judgment seat, but there’s
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We’re going to be praised for
things we do at the Judgment

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seat.
There’s so many references to

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this this idea that you can’t
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And if we’re looking at the
Judgment seat being an overall

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verdict that you know, all our
actions and life is weighed up

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and then there’s this one result
that comes out of that.

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It doesn’t make sense that we
are ever going to anyone would

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really be praised in that.
Sense and rebuked and praise at

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the same time.
But when we separate those

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processes, it’s sort of to me
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So let’s go through it.
Even yesterday.

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We looked at this idea of the
The Works been examined by the

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by the blowtorch and whether we
take that as referring to

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individuals or some refer it to
the the sort of leaders in the

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teachers and their Collegiate of
the underlying principles the

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same The Works are examined the
motives are examined as to

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whether they’re gold or
precious.

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Soul just wooden stubble the
torch is applied the scenario

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presented in First Corinthians 3
is this person’s work is totally

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consumed so his work was might
it might have been motivated by

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wrong reasons or for
self-aggrandizement all whatever

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it might have been or even
foolishness and and

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insensitivity whatever it might
have been for some reason it’s

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burnt and yet it says he still
saved so there’s a disconnect

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between the salvation.
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evaluation of their Works in
that particular case And in that

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chapter as well, there’s this
emphasis on the idea of reward

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which is connected to the works
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event.
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We are rewarded according to the
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is the leaders or the all the
teachers in that case the

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rewards go according to the
works in that scenario that’s

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person receives no reward
because his works are all

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consumed and yet it says he’s
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That was through fire.
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And so First Corinthians 3 says
everyone will receive his own

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reward according to his labor K
the connection between what he’s

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done and rewards and yet that’s
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That’s ever from being saved.
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Remember we looked at that
yesterday or survives.

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He receives a reward it’s
mentioned again, if any man’s

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work work and it’s a work
they’re not word is burned up he

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suffers.
As a loss which will try and

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make some suggestions about as
well.

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But he still say nonetheless and
that picture that is presenting

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First Corinthians 3 shows that
difference between the works

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even all his Works in that
scenario been burnt up.

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He still saved so we want to
make some sense of that.

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We sort of looked at that
yesterday that the works are

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totally destroyed, but he’s
saved as well.

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Now we have again.
These are Concepts have been

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brought up with us as kids.
Haven’t we salvation is a gift

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00:25:27,800 –> 00:25:31,400
from God eternal life is a gift
you can earn it and yet there’s

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this connection between works
and the Judgment seat that we

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sort of got to try and come to
grips with for by Grace.

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You are saved through faith as a
gift of God.

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So how is it a gift of God and
then if it’s connected to our

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works how then is it a gift and
we need to think about that.

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Now what I’m going to do very
quickly than this morning is

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look at Reality of rewards for
works.

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You can’t deny that any so much
a part of the Judgment seat

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picture that you can’t deny the
connection between works and

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rewards and also this idea of
proportional rewards at the

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Judgment seat.
And again that it goes against

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their idea of the gift of God
and Grace and given given

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00:26:13,100 –> 00:26:16,300
salvation is a gift you this
idea that people are saved.

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Yes, but there’s there’s a
proportion in the rewards

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receive at the Judgment seat.
We got to try and build all

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these things into whatever
picture we have of the Judgment

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seat eventually.
Even even this word mean the

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words taken from a parable and
it seems to be the word that

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using nearly every song You have
about the Judgment seat and

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every place I’ve ever been in on
the Judgment seat this idea of

463
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well done.
And I find that again that word

464
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even is a little bit
counterintuitive that well done.

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So you get the Judgment seat and
it’s well-done think really

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00:26:50,300 –> 00:26:52,200
really well.
It’s isn’t it a gift is another

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gift from God and and even if
any of us, even if we have the

468
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scarcity of you that only a few
gonna be I saved is anyone even

469
00:26:59,000 –> 00:27:01,800
that few really well done and
they really done everything.

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Well, it’s sort of a an
interesting concept isn’t it

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that we are trying to come to
grips with as we as we try and

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00:27:07,800 –> 00:27:09,800
look at this.
We’re saved by grace, aren’t we?

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00:27:09,800 –> 00:27:13,000
What why is well done the big
judgment-seat word that pops up.

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Well, we’ll see hopefully see
that he’s a big part of the

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Judgment seat and it is can be
reconciled.

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Okay, I’ve put a lot of the
quotes this morning up on the

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slides because if I we look them
all up we’ll just Here all day

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and I know no one wants to do
that tickling my wife so I know

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I can’t go over time when she’s
here.

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So invite me back another time.
We can go over time all your

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life.
Just want to show the connection

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between works and rewards and
this is Greek word the word

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according that we’re going to
look at in the English Bible.

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According is in the king in the
King James.

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Anyway, it’s this Greek word
Hoss which means in the manner

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or in like manner or like even
as its shows a connection

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00:27:56,100 –> 00:27:59,700
between the two Things Hoss so
it’s translated here.

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00:27:59,700 –> 00:28:02,900
Mainly according.
I put put it in red revelation

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22 verse 12 behold I come
quickly and my reward is with

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me.
So there’s the idea of reward to

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give every man according as his
work took a singular there.

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Yes, as his work shall be
according Hoss.

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00:28:19,300 –> 00:28:23,900
So the connection between his
work and the reward is is really

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clear there Matthew 16 for the
son of man shall come in the

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glory.
Three of his father with his

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00:28:28,700 –> 00:28:34,100
angels and he shall reward every
man according horse to his work

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00:28:35,100 –> 00:28:38,300
Revelation 2 verse 23.
I am he that searcheth the reins

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00:28:38,700 –> 00:28:42,200
in the hearts and will give unto
every man every one of you sorry

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00:28:42,200 –> 00:28:46,700
according Hoss according to his
works first Peter 1:17, the

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father who without respect of
persons judges according to

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00:28:51,700 –> 00:28:56,100
Every Man’s work.
And pass the time of your

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00:28:56,100 –> 00:29:00,000
sojourning here in fear.
So so here’s this connection of

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00:29:00,000 –> 00:29:05,700
work and the reward and we will
try and delve into that a little

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00:29:05,700 –> 00:29:10,000
bit as we go through.
I need to go into that.

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Okay, so works and reward we’ve
established that there’s a

506
00:29:16,108 –> 00:29:19,500
connection would Now quickly
establish that there’s a connect

507
00:29:19,500 –> 00:29:22,900
there’s this proportional
concept that plays out in the

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00:29:22,900 –> 00:29:26,400
giving of rewards.
We’ve got hints of it in a

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00:29:26,400 –> 00:29:29,300
parabolic sent have sent seven
winner in The Parables Matthew

510
00:29:29,300 –> 00:29:32,600
25 says well done good and
faithful servant.

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00:29:32,600 –> 00:29:34,600
You have been Faithful over a
few things.

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00:29:34,900 –> 00:29:37,600
I will make you ruler over many
things and sort of start to get

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00:29:37,600 –> 00:29:40,200
this this idea of a proportional
response.

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00:29:41,400 –> 00:29:44,200
Probably more clearer.
The parable of the pounds of the

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00:29:44,200 –> 00:29:50,900
miners as someone said the other
day in Luke 19 your pound has

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00:29:50,900 –> 00:29:54,700
gained 10 pounds have authority
over 10 cities.

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00:29:54,700 –> 00:29:59,100
So you can see the results that
he achieved is is proportional

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00:29:59,100 –> 00:30:04,800
connected to the reward is given
and then the next servant that

519
00:30:04,800 –> 00:30:10,200
comes along he’d achieved five
pounds out of the one he gets

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00:30:10,200 –> 00:30:13,400
the authority over five cities
and then interestingly enough

521
00:30:14,800 –> 00:30:19,000
Later on in the parable the
person who doesn’t use his

522
00:30:19,000 –> 00:30:23,400
talent has it taken from him and
given to somebody else want to

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00:30:23,400 –> 00:30:25,800
try think about how that plays
out to in the in the whole

524
00:30:26,200 –> 00:30:32,300
rewards scenario.
Now we also on the negative side

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00:30:32,300 –> 00:30:34,500
of the ledger.
So so rewards are given

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00:30:34,600 –> 00:30:39,300
proportionally but also rebuke
and Punishment appears to be

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00:30:39,300 –> 00:30:42,500
proportional as well hints that
adding a few of the statements

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00:30:42,500 –> 00:30:45,900
of Our Lord which are sort of a
little bit enigmatic but they do

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00:30:45,900 –> 00:30:50,100
imply this idea Luke 12 says and
that servant which knew his

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00:30:50,100 –> 00:30:52,600
Lord’s will so he knew he knew
it.

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00:30:52,600 –> 00:30:57,600
He did something wrong sort of
very consciously shall be beaten

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00:30:57,600 –> 00:30:59,700
with many stripes.
So this is the story of many

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00:30:59,700 –> 00:31:03,000
stripes, but he that knew not
and didn’t commit things worthy

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00:31:03,000 –> 00:31:05,200
of Stripes.
So we sort of did it ignorantly

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00:31:06,000 –> 00:31:08,700
he didn’t quite know he was
doing something wrong, even

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00:31:08,700 –> 00:31:13,300
though he should have shall be
beaten with few stripes for unto

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00:31:13,300 –> 00:31:17,000
whomsoever much is given of him
shall be much required.

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00:31:17,900 –> 00:31:20,700
Try it just try and work that
through into the Judgment seat

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00:31:20,700 –> 00:31:24,900
process.
In the in the going through of

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00:31:24,900 –> 00:31:28,200
our life in the examination of
our of what we’ve done and what

541
00:31:28,200 –> 00:31:31,400
we haven’t done.
It appears that some people get

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00:31:31,400 –> 00:31:37,600
a harder time and get rebuked
and receive more castigation or

543
00:31:37,608 –> 00:31:41,600
rebuke from our Lord than others
May who have not had same the

544
00:31:41,600 –> 00:31:44,500
same advantages or opportunities
that others have had.

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00:31:45,700 –> 00:31:49,300
Now these interesting Matthew 10
again on the idea of reward.

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00:31:50,300 –> 00:31:52,800
He that receives that you can
all see that up there.

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00:31:52,800 –> 00:31:55,200
But I’ll read anyone here that
receives a prophet in the name

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00:31:55,200 –> 00:31:59,000
of a prophet shall receive a
prophet’s reward and he that

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00:31:59,000 –> 00:32:01,700
receives a righteous man in the
name of a righteous man.

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00:32:01,700 –> 00:32:04,900
Shall receive a righteous man’s
reward and even someone who

551
00:32:04,900 –> 00:32:08,000
gives that our a cup of water in
the Name of Christ says he shall

552
00:32:08,000 –> 00:32:11,300
not lose his reward.
So even in that little parrot in

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00:32:11,300 –> 00:32:14,500
that little statement that
parabolic statement you’ve got

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00:32:14,500 –> 00:32:18,300
these Different rewards
mentioned you got a prophet’s

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00:32:18,300 –> 00:32:22,700
reward a righteous man’s reward
and a cup of water givers reward

556
00:32:22,900 –> 00:32:26,800
anything.
Well, you know, what why

557
00:32:27,000 –> 00:32:32,200
differentiate that what yf7 if
reward is be careful how I say

558
00:32:32,200 –> 00:32:34,800
this I say simply eternal life.
That’s probably an

559
00:32:34,800 –> 00:32:39,100
understatement snot if the word
if the reward we get is only

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00:32:39,300 –> 00:32:42,500
eternal life and that’s what the
judges he’s dishing out.

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00:32:42,500 –> 00:32:46,900
Yes, you know, there’s binary
yes-or-no in or out Thing then

562
00:32:46,900 –> 00:32:50,900
why are we talking about levels
or grades or qualities of

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00:32:50,900 –> 00:32:54,400
rewards its we’re just in or out
that should be it.

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00:32:54,600 –> 00:32:59,700
But obviously there’s more
happening than just that there’s

565
00:32:59,700 –> 00:33:04,700
an indication also that how we
live our life now and the things

566
00:33:04,700 –> 00:33:09,000
we do and the things we don’t do
have an impact on the quality of

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00:33:09,000 –> 00:33:12,300
our reward and how we reward is
played out in the future.

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00:33:12,300 –> 00:33:14,500
There’s some very interesting
little statements.

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00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:20,500
Matthew 7 is interesting judge
not that you be not judged now

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00:33:20,900 –> 00:33:26,000
again thinking that through the
idea.

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00:33:26,000 –> 00:33:28,800
I always thought was if you
know, if you bit harsh judging

572
00:33:28,800 –> 00:33:31,500
people and the Lord will reject
you’ll be harsh to you and just

573
00:33:31,500 –> 00:33:34,300
reject you at the Judgment seat,
but that it seems a little bit

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00:33:34,300 –> 00:33:38,200
so it’s a little bit extreme
isn’t it a little bit, you know?

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00:33:40,000 –> 00:33:42,200
The Lord we can be forgiven of
all our sins can’t wheel is

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00:33:42,200 –> 00:33:45,100
there’s no in our context
unforgivable sin.

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00:33:45,100 –> 00:33:48,000
So if we have done something
that’s a little bit judgmental

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00:33:48,400 –> 00:33:50,600
and we may feel guilty about
that later on in our life even

579
00:33:50,600 –> 00:33:52,500
decades.
I think gee I was bit judgmental

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00:33:52,500 –> 00:33:55,100
back then and it’s probably too
late to rectify it.

581
00:33:55,100 –> 00:33:56,300
We think well that’s blown it
for me.

582
00:33:56,300 –> 00:33:59,000
I’m out of the Kingdom because
I’m going to get judged as I

583
00:33:59,000 –> 00:34:00,100
judge.
Somebody else that it’s

584
00:34:00,100 –> 00:34:02,400
something I did 20 years ago,
and that’s probably behind the

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00:34:02,400 –> 00:34:05,000
guilt of people in the rest
homes or wherever who thinking,

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00:34:05,000 –> 00:34:06,300
how am I going to face?
The Judgment?

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00:34:06,300 –> 00:34:08,199
I did that.
Well, I think there’s no sin.

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00:34:08,199 –> 00:34:12,000
That’s Unforgivable.
So how does that literally play

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00:34:12,000 –> 00:34:15,000
out?
Maybe I’m just suggesting maybe

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00:34:15,000 –> 00:34:19,000
because we’ve acted that way
that there is we are judged

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00:34:19,000 –> 00:34:22,100
harshly by a Lord and rebuked
for those things and told off

592
00:34:22,100 –> 00:34:27,100
about them by our Lord in a
severe way in a proportion of

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00:34:27,100 –> 00:34:30,400
how we’ve treated others in our
life and bought maybe grief or

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00:34:31,300 –> 00:34:36,400
or pain to somebody else judge.
Not that you be not judged for

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00:34:36,400 –> 00:34:39,300
with what judgment ye judge.
Ye shall be judged and we What

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00:34:39,300 –> 00:34:42,000
measure ye mete it shall be
measured to you again.

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00:34:42,600 –> 00:34:46,900
So maybe that plays out in some
way second Corinthians 9 but I

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00:34:46,908 –> 00:34:50,900
say he that sows sparingly shall
reap also sparingly and he which

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00:34:50,900 –> 00:34:52,800
soweth bountifully shall reap
bountifully.

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00:34:55,199 –> 00:34:59,100
This is this idea of if you’re
generous with others, then God

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00:34:59,100 –> 00:35:00,600
will be in a sense generous with
you.

602
00:35:00,600 –> 00:35:01,800
Now.
How does that play out?

603
00:35:01,800 –> 00:35:04,600
Is that just about any that just
refer to one in or out scenario

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00:35:04,600 –> 00:35:08,500
or the way we dealt with it the
Judgment seat and they’ll

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00:35:08,500 –> 00:35:11,400
Rewards Save a build into that
into that process.

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00:35:12,600 –> 00:35:16,800
Here’s what we’re looking at
with Jonah Matthew 6 layup or

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00:35:16,800 –> 00:35:20,400
which means a mass or build up
for yourselves Treasures in

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00:35:20,400 –> 00:35:23,000
Heaven where neither moth nor
rust does corrupt.

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00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:26,200
There’s a Matthew 6 is full of
this idea of reward, isn’t it?

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00:35:26,900 –> 00:35:31,000
It’s interesting that uses this
plural Treasures in Heaven that

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00:35:31,100 –> 00:35:33,500
would indicate some people have
more Treasures than others.

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00:35:33,500 –> 00:35:37,300
It’s like a like a bank account
sort of terminology.

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00:35:37,300 –> 00:35:41,900
Isn’t We Lay Up install
Treasures in Heaven Is there

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00:35:41,900 –> 00:35:45,600
someone Which those of us who
are who are generous with our

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00:35:45,600 –> 00:35:48,600
money and do it behind the
scenes or or give our time and

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00:35:48,608 –> 00:35:52,500
our effort and do it with no one
without reward and praise who

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00:35:52,500 –> 00:35:55,000
carry on their life without
getting rewarded from others.

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00:35:55,000 –> 00:35:58,500
Is there a sense in which they
are building up a reservoir of

619
00:35:58,500 –> 00:36:02,800
treasures that they will receive
not necessarily salvation for

620
00:36:02,800 –> 00:36:05,400
but they’ll receive reward for
it in a particular way.

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00:36:06,600 –> 00:36:08,700
And it’s interesting when you
look at that that you know, you

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00:36:08,700 –> 00:36:10,800
look at the sermon on the
mountain is in the Lord says

623
00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:13,200
about the Pharisees I suppose
he’s talking about the Pharisees

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00:36:13,200 –> 00:36:16,100
primarily.
He says they have received their

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00:36:16,100 –> 00:36:19,100
reward in a sense.
They got recognition.

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00:36:19,100 –> 00:36:21,500
They got on our they got Glory
they got position.

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00:36:21,500 –> 00:36:24,800
They got status all those things
are very important in that, you

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00:36:24,808 –> 00:36:31,300
know judeo based culture in
which they live that you know,

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00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:36,700
They got those things if that’s
the reward we’re going to get

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00:36:36,700 –> 00:36:41,600
than it’s got to play out some
way in a similar Fashion on the

631
00:36:41,600 –> 00:36:43,500
other side on the flip side in
the in the Kingdom.

632
00:36:43,500 –> 00:36:46,200
So just try and keep those
things in mind.

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00:36:50,000 –> 00:36:53,000
Luke 14 I’m just what we look
I’m just trying to get us now as

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00:36:53,000 –> 00:36:56,500
we look at some of these verses
that we look at rewards we can

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00:36:56,500 –> 00:36:59,200
simply read reward being eternal
life, but there seems to be a

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00:36:59,800 –> 00:37:04,500
specific aspect to it when you
know you do there’s a quick look

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00:37:04,500 –> 00:37:08,300
at the fission six in a moment.
It says whatsoever a man does he

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00:37:08,300 –> 00:37:11,300
will be whatsoever.
Good thing he does he receive a

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00:37:11,308 –> 00:37:14,100
reward.
There’s a specific aspect of

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00:37:14,100 –> 00:37:17,600
that whatsoever.
It’s not just a general outcome

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00:37:17,600 –> 00:37:20,900
of his life gets.
And more good things and evil

642
00:37:20,900 –> 00:37:22,600
and you get sort of eternal life
for that.

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00:37:22,600 –> 00:37:26,100
But there’s this specific nature
to it.

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00:37:26,100 –> 00:37:29,100
We’ll get to that in a minute
Luke 14 and thou shalt be

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00:37:29,100 –> 00:37:31,900
blessed.
Are you if you do if you invite

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00:37:31,900 –> 00:37:33,500
people who can’t invite you
home.

647
00:37:34,300 –> 00:37:37,700
He says they can’t recompense
you they can’t sort of pay you

648
00:37:37,700 –> 00:37:40,500
back.
There’s a special blessing for

649
00:37:40,500 –> 00:37:42,500
you’re going to be recompensed
at the Judgment seat of the just

650
00:37:42,500 –> 00:37:45,900
you say, well that’s just a game
only eternal life, but there’s a

651
00:37:45,908 –> 00:37:48,600
special blessing for those who
do that who is show that

652
00:37:48,600 –> 00:37:51,600
generosity who?
A who go that extra mile and do

653
00:37:51,600 –> 00:37:53,000
that.
Sorry.

654
00:37:55,900 –> 00:37:58,700
Baby be clued in that he’s
actually talking about rewards

655
00:37:58,700 –> 00:38:00,300
because only talking about the
judge the judge.

656
00:38:00,300 –> 00:38:01,400
Yes.
That’s a good point.

657
00:38:01,400 –> 00:38:03,500
Actually the river is exactly
who made the resurrection

658
00:38:03,500 –> 00:38:06,600
involves other people, but it’s
the gesture are rewarded in that

659
00:38:06,600 –> 00:38:07,000
way.
Yep.

660
00:38:07,000 –> 00:38:10,700
That’s a good point.
It’s actually going to talk

661
00:38:10,700 –> 00:38:14,800
about in a moment Luke 20:36
says those are obtained.

662
00:38:16,300 –> 00:38:18,900
Those that are worthy of the
Resurrection shall be made equal

663
00:38:18,900 –> 00:38:20,300
unto the angels and we sort of
get this ID.

664
00:38:20,300 –> 00:38:23,700
There’s a quality in that whole
process, but we’ll get to that

665
00:38:23,700 –> 00:38:29,300
I’m jumping ahead.
Sorry settle down even we said

666
00:38:29,300 –> 00:38:33,800
that the idea of teachers been
receiving a stricter judgment

667
00:38:34,100 –> 00:38:36,700
and I sort of made the sort of a
facetious type Point.

668
00:38:36,700 –> 00:38:39,600
What why would I if I believe
that was in relation to my

669
00:38:39,600 –> 00:38:42,600
eternal life?
I’m a little bit crazy to be a

670
00:38:42,608 –> 00:38:46,400
teacher and I because why would
you put yourself in a harder

671
00:38:46,400 –> 00:38:51,200
judgment Zone that would
increase the likelihood of me

672
00:38:51,200 –> 00:38:53,200
being rejected if you think of
that logically, what would it

673
00:38:53,200 –> 00:38:54,800
be?
It seeks your in Michael my

674
00:38:54,800 –> 00:38:58,500
meeting at Gosford when I’m
going to be get stricter

675
00:38:58,500 –> 00:39:01,400
Judgment of stricter judgment
relates to my eternal life then

676
00:39:01,700 –> 00:39:03,300
man.
I mean, it’s a little bit crazy

677
00:39:03,300 –> 00:39:07,300
for me to do that and and and I
believe teachers will get

678
00:39:07,300 –> 00:39:10,700
stricter judgment, but they will
be restored get rebuke from our

679
00:39:10,900 –> 00:39:14,300
To know be they’ll be set
straight on a lot of things and

680
00:39:14,308 –> 00:39:15,800
we’ll get to that as we go
through as well.

681
00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:18,400
But I’m just trying to put these
ideas in our mind before we draw

682
00:39:18,400 –> 00:39:22,600
any conclusions.
Again, there’s so many so many

683
00:39:22,600 –> 00:39:24,500
verses here.
Let’s look at the Ephesians 6:1.

684
00:39:24,600 –> 00:39:26,300
I guess we just turn to
Ephesians 6.

685
00:39:27,000 –> 00:39:28,900
You see why I put them up on the
slides because we’ll be here all

686
00:39:28,900 –> 00:39:30,500
day.
We look at every single one, but

687
00:39:36,700 –> 00:39:39,100
And as you’re ready, you may
think I’m just stretching a

688
00:39:39,108 –> 00:39:41,200
little bit too far all the
reading too much into it, but I

689
00:39:41,600 –> 00:39:43,800
can’t help feeling there’s got
to be an explanation for the

690
00:39:44,000 –> 00:39:46,900
specific aspects of these
rewards when they’re mentioned

691
00:39:49,100 –> 00:39:55,900
Vision 6.
It’s verse 8 is the one we’re

692
00:39:55,900 –> 00:39:58,400
going to focus on but it’s
talking about servants.

693
00:39:58,400 –> 00:40:02,900
Don’t just do things to please
your master, you know and to do

694
00:40:02,900 –> 00:40:05,100
it for him and not do it when
he’s not looking at cetera, but

695
00:40:05,100 –> 00:40:10,400
do everything unto the Lord.
Verse 7 with Good Will doing

696
00:40:10,400 –> 00:40:14,400
Service as to the Lord and not
to men verse 8 so he have got

697
00:40:14,400 –> 00:40:16,500
someone who works in you could
apply this to your own job where

698
00:40:16,500 –> 00:40:20,300
you apply it to a real service
situation the attitude you take

699
00:40:20,300 –> 00:40:22,900
to the job you can say well I’m
going to do the bare minimum

700
00:40:22,900 –> 00:40:25,800
that keep my boss happy or I’m
going to work unto the Lord,

701
00:40:25,800 –> 00:40:30,200
which is this higher ideal,
which is what Matthew 6 and 5 6

702
00:40:30,200 –> 00:40:32,600
7 all about got reaching this
level of perfection.

703
00:40:33,400 –> 00:40:38,000
You can choose which way you go.
He says if you choose to go the

704
00:40:38,000 –> 00:40:42,700
harder route the harder option,
then there’s a reward a special

705
00:40:42,700 –> 00:40:49,500
reward in that and so he says
knowing verse 8 that whatsoever

706
00:40:49,700 –> 00:40:53,500
good thing the king the new King
James got whatever sort of just

707
00:40:53,500 –> 00:40:56,600
trying to drill down to this
specific aspect.

708
00:40:56,600 –> 00:41:00,300
Whatever good thing.
Any man does the same shall he

709
00:41:00,300 –> 00:41:04,200
receive of the Lord whether he
be Bond or free or free so the

710
00:41:04,200 –> 00:41:08,300
principle applies in all About
life, but just think about that

711
00:41:08,300 –> 00:41:12,600
whatever, you know, it’s a
specific thing a specific course

712
00:41:12,600 –> 00:41:15,800
we choose to take in our whether
it be our job or our occlusal

713
00:41:15,800 –> 00:41:19,300
life for a family of we take a
specific course the higher

714
00:41:19,300 –> 00:41:21,400
calling the higher Road,
whatever you want to call it.

715
00:41:21,500 –> 00:41:23,200
There’s a specific reward for
that.

716
00:41:24,500 –> 00:41:30,000
That may be above and beyond the
granting of immortality will all

717
00:41:30,000 –> 00:41:33,400
the acceptance of the judgments
at the Judgment seat in the

718
00:41:33,400 –> 00:41:36,200
Kingdom.
We’ve talked about Matthew 6

719
00:41:36,200 –> 00:41:39,600
already about being rewarded and
runs all the way through Matthew

720
00:41:39,600 –> 00:41:46,300
6 Galatians 6 whatsoever a man
soweth that shall he also reap

721
00:41:46,300 –> 00:41:49,500
and let us not be weary in
well-doing for in due season.

722
00:41:49,500 –> 00:41:52,600
We shall reap if we faint not
again, there’s there’s the

723
00:41:52,600 –> 00:41:55,800
results in the amount of effort
to put it at the proportional

724
00:41:55,800 –> 00:41:58,700
and connected the this is
interesting little phrase.

725
00:41:59,500 –> 00:42:02,900
And another you could read you
can maybe read too much into it

726
00:42:02,900 –> 00:42:05,000
because it could just be a
simple flourish.

727
00:42:05,100 –> 00:42:09,400
Or an expression but it’s got it
just makes you think and second

728
00:42:09,400 –> 00:42:12,900
John one or second John verse 8
really it says look to

729
00:42:12,900 –> 00:42:15,300
yourselves that you lose not
those things which we have

730
00:42:15,300 –> 00:42:18,500
wrought but that we receive a
full reward.

731
00:42:19,200 –> 00:42:21,800
Now, what’s the difference in a
full reward and normal reward?

732
00:42:21,800 –> 00:42:23,800
Is is there a is there a Max
reward?

733
00:42:23,800 –> 00:42:27,700
Is there if we lived our life
according to Matthew 5 6 & 7

734
00:42:27,700 –> 00:42:31,500
there’s a full reward and
there’s something lesser than

735
00:42:31,500 –> 00:42:34,500
that if we don’t so you say look
to those things.

736
00:42:35,100 –> 00:42:39,800
Which we’ve taught you about and
receive the full reward, maybe

737
00:42:39,800 –> 00:42:44,200
maybe it’s as I said, maybe just
expression but it implies

738
00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:46,000
something that we need to think
about.

739
00:42:47,400 –> 00:42:49,600
Then we can go on and on and on
I’ll just flick through these

740
00:42:49,600 –> 00:42:52,800
very quickly.
He’s some examples of the idea

741
00:42:52,800 –> 00:42:57,200
examples of proportionality in
rewards.

742
00:42:57,400 –> 00:43:00,300
We saw it in the parable already
parable of the pounds have

743
00:43:00,300 –> 00:43:03,300
authority over tens tens cities
five cities Etc.

744
00:43:04,600 –> 00:43:07,100
But even as other little hints
as you go through the gospels,

745
00:43:07,100 –> 00:43:11,600
for example, remember the story
where the mother of the sons of

746
00:43:11,600 –> 00:43:14,900
Zebedee was somebody’s wife
comes and says to Jesus special

747
00:43:14,900 –> 00:43:17,900
request to Jesus can my son’s
sit on your right hand on your

748
00:43:17,900 –> 00:43:20,400
left which was a position of
Honor.

749
00:43:20,400 –> 00:43:23,100
It’s been part of the inner the
inner court or the you know,

750
00:43:23,100 –> 00:43:26,700
click of a kingdom isn’t the sit
there in that in that sort of

751
00:43:26,900 –> 00:43:29,100
close proximity and be part of
the inner group.

752
00:43:29,400 –> 00:43:32,800
It’s a great seat of Honor now,
Jesus doesn’t say, oh don’t be

753
00:43:32,800 –> 00:43:33,900
silly.
There’s no such thing in the

754
00:43:33,900 –> 00:43:36,400
kingdom are Cool under the out
look like he doesn’t say that he

755
00:43:36,400 –> 00:43:41,300
says well, that’s not mine to
give my father will actually

756
00:43:41,300 –> 00:43:45,300
grant that that blessing which
indicates.

757
00:43:46,400 –> 00:43:50,400
There may be an inner group that
are associated with Christ in a

758
00:43:50,400 –> 00:43:54,600
much more closer way and
intimate way then others in the

759
00:43:54,608 –> 00:43:59,100
kingdom and there is that those
positions those job descriptions

760
00:43:59,100 –> 00:44:02,300
are genuine their ask there are
somebody there are people are

761
00:44:02,300 –> 00:44:03,700
going to be on the right hand on
the left.

762
00:44:03,800 –> 00:44:05,800
He doesn’t deny the reality of
those positions.

763
00:44:06,000 –> 00:44:09,800
He says that’s God’s in fact, he
confirms of my saying it Gods.

764
00:44:10,400 –> 00:44:14,700
That’s God’s prerogative to
grant that Daniel 10 and most of

765
00:44:14,700 –> 00:44:18,500
us are aware of this little
scenario and As I said before we

766
00:44:19,900 –> 00:44:21,400
equal onto the Angels, what does
that mean?

767
00:44:21,400 –> 00:44:23,500
Does that mean we’re all equal
like the Angels because the

768
00:44:23,500 –> 00:44:26,700
angels are not equal are they we
don’t quite know how that

769
00:44:26,900 –> 00:44:30,200
hierarchy of the Angels Came
about whether it’s based on

770
00:44:30,400 –> 00:44:33,900
their performance in a previous
era or Epoch or even Another

771
00:44:34,400 –> 00:44:35,900
Universe.
We don’t we don’t know really

772
00:44:35,900 –> 00:44:38,700
where the Angels came from and
where they’re why there is a

773
00:44:38,700 –> 00:44:42,300
hierarchy of both position and
knowledge amongst them, but

774
00:44:42,300 –> 00:44:46,100
there is there really is and
there are angels called are

775
00:44:46,200 –> 00:44:48,900
Archangels, there are angels
that have more abilities than

776
00:44:48,900 –> 00:44:53,700
other angels that have more
knowledge than other Angels.

777
00:44:53,900 –> 00:44:57,300
Their angel would have special
jobs is that there’s an angel in

778
00:44:57,300 –> 00:45:01,000
Daniel called palimony.
Who’s the wonderful number who’s

779
00:45:01,000 –> 00:45:03,000
in charge of numbers?
I think you know accountants

780
00:45:03,000 –> 00:45:06,200
have got a you know, that’s
that’s that’s the dream of every

781
00:45:06,200 –> 00:45:09,200
accountant.
That’s a bit know how much they

782
00:45:09,200 –> 00:45:11,400
have probably taken it too far.
I think I think I’ve got reach

783
00:45:11,400 –> 00:45:16,000
that limit.
So yeah, Michael is called in

784
00:45:16,000 –> 00:45:17,600
it.
Little story and Daniel 10 most

785
00:45:17,600 –> 00:45:19,200
of you know, and I’m sure that
the younger ones may not be

786
00:45:19,200 –> 00:45:21,700
aware of it.
But this angel that comes Daniel

787
00:45:21,700 –> 00:45:23,800
praise.
This Angel comes to him three

788
00:45:23,800 –> 00:45:26,400
weeks later and says, look, I’m
I heard your words.

789
00:45:26,400 –> 00:45:32,000
I’ve come for your responded to
your words, but I got held up by

790
00:45:33,200 –> 00:45:36,000
I got by the words of the Prince
of Persia Prince of Greece the

791
00:45:36,008 –> 00:45:39,000
country with Prince of Greece.
I got held up trying to do

792
00:45:39,000 –> 00:45:43,200
something in world affairs and I
was being resisted and I

793
00:45:43,208 –> 00:45:45,900
couldn’t fulfill the job.
And so this other Angel was

794
00:45:45,900 –> 00:45:46,500
sent.
St.

795
00:45:46,500 –> 00:45:49,500
Michael was a chief Angel.
So again, you got this idea of

796
00:45:49,500 –> 00:45:52,400
hierarchy not just hierarchy in
position, but high-ranking

797
00:45:52,400 –> 00:45:56,100
ability, it would appear he
comes along and he fixes a

798
00:45:56,100 –> 00:45:58,200
problem up for me and I needed
his help.

799
00:45:58,600 –> 00:46:01,000
And as I said, that’s
interesting not just rank, but

800
00:46:01,000 –> 00:46:04,000
also ability now does that
translate into the kingdom as

801
00:46:04,000 –> 00:46:05,800
well?
When we’re in the kingdom are

802
00:46:05,800 –> 00:46:10,900
there saints that have more
ability and are given more power

803
00:46:10,900 –> 00:46:15,200
in some sort of physical sense
or or mental sensor that they

804
00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:18,900
can do things that other Is
can’t maybe maybe that that if

805
00:46:18,900 –> 00:46:21,700
the analogy of been like under
the Angels carries forward into

806
00:46:21,700 –> 00:46:25,600
immortality than that, that is a
reality, isn’t it in some way?

807
00:46:26,800 –> 00:46:30,200
And you know when we think about
our life in the Kingdom, we’re

808
00:46:30,200 –> 00:46:32,500
not robots are we got never
wants us to be robots.

809
00:46:32,500 –> 00:46:36,700
He always wants us to to use our
mind and our faculties to do

810
00:46:36,700 –> 00:46:40,100
things and he always makes it
that we’ve got to you know

811
00:46:40,100 –> 00:46:43,200
arrived at the seasons and make
certain calls.

812
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:45,800
Now, I think that it’s hard to
imagine that goes out the window

813
00:46:45,800 –> 00:46:47,600
when we’re in the kingdom and
they’re all of a sudden we’ve

814
00:46:47,600 –> 00:46:50,300
sort of make every perfect
decision in every perfect way

815
00:46:50,300 –> 00:46:53,300
that there would appear and that
little example would help would

816
00:46:53,300 –> 00:46:57,400
help us come to that conclusion
that there is Sense that as we

817
00:46:57,400 –> 00:47:01,500
reign as kings and Priests that
we do make decisions and there

818
00:47:01,500 –> 00:47:05,400
may be other saints that we can
call on to help us in certain

819
00:47:05,400 –> 00:47:07,800
circumstances.
So without taking it too far

820
00:47:08,100 –> 00:47:12,000
that is a little window I think
into into that reality when

821
00:47:12,000 –> 00:47:14,100
there’s other ones.
I haven’t looked at but you

822
00:47:14,100 –> 00:47:17,900
know, there’s that story of the
prophet Micah Micah who makes

823
00:47:17,900 –> 00:47:22,800
this heat to Jehoshaphat and he
makes this little word picture.

824
00:47:22,800 –> 00:47:26,000
He says God called the angels
together in heaven and ask their

825
00:47:26,000 –> 00:47:29,300
opinion on how he’s going to
change the course of events in

826
00:47:29,300 –> 00:47:32,200
Israel and one Angel suggest
this another Angel suggest that

827
00:47:32,200 –> 00:47:36,300
one said what and I go down and
be a lying spirit in the

828
00:47:36,300 –> 00:47:37,800
prophets Mouse and God said
here.

829
00:47:37,800 –> 00:47:38,700
Okay.
Go with that.

830
00:47:39,000 –> 00:47:42,200
Yeah how literal that is.
I don’t I don’t know but it’s

831
00:47:42,200 –> 00:47:46,900
interesting that it portrays
these Immortal beings as all

832
00:47:46,900 –> 00:47:50,000
coming up with suggestions and
ideas and and eventually one of

833
00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:53,800
those ideas been implemented.
So again, it’s it’s interesting

834
00:47:53,800 –> 00:47:59,000
to think about that in terms of
our Our future there’s the

835
00:47:59,000 –> 00:48:02,100
famous one here that all this
would know as well Matthew 19.

836
00:48:02,600 –> 00:48:07,900
The apostles are given will be
given to sit on the honor and

837
00:48:07,900 –> 00:48:11,200
the glory and the privilege of
sitting on 12 Thrones judging

838
00:48:11,200 –> 00:48:15,400
the Twelve Tribes of Israel sort
of specific role a specific

839
00:48:15,400 –> 00:48:21,300
position of honor and power that
you and I will not get okay, so

840
00:48:21,300 –> 00:48:24,800
there is a sense of inequality
in that outcome.

841
00:48:25,900 –> 00:48:27,500
Actually, this is this a very
interesting one.

842
00:48:27,700 –> 00:48:29,000
Maybe we’ll look that up as
well.

843
00:48:29,000 –> 00:48:32,000
Let’s look at Matthew 19.
Let’s look at a couple of these.

844
00:48:32,600 –> 00:48:34,400
I promise I won’t get much
longer.

845
00:48:35,200 –> 00:48:39,700
Just wanted to plant the seed ye
Matthew 19.

846
00:48:39,700 –> 00:48:45,600
Here’s the context here is You
know the Rich Young Ruler whose

847
00:48:45,600 –> 00:48:51,000
come and said, you know what
must I must I do to inherit

848
00:48:51,000 –> 00:48:54,000
eternal life in the Lord sort of
delves into that attitude and

849
00:48:54,000 –> 00:48:57,700
says well and it gives him this
answer that really is specific

850
00:48:57,700 –> 00:48:59,200
to him.
It’s not to All Saints of all,

851
00:48:59,200 –> 00:49:02,200
Tommy says give everything away
and sell what you have give it

852
00:49:02,200 –> 00:49:05,300
to the poor and come and follow
me because he’s focusing on the

853
00:49:05,300 –> 00:49:07,100
need of that particular man at
that time.

854
00:49:11,100 –> 00:49:15,300
The apostles he that response
and they start thinking in Peter

855
00:49:15,300 –> 00:49:18,200
says in verse 27 usually weighs
Peter isn’t who jumps in with

856
00:49:18,200 –> 00:49:21,800
these little things verse 27
Peter says then Peter said unto

857
00:49:21,800 –> 00:49:25,000
him behold.
We have forsaken all and

858
00:49:25,000 –> 00:49:27,200
followed you what will we have
their vote?

859
00:49:27,200 –> 00:49:29,700
Thereafter?
Anything will Jesus could say

860
00:49:30,400 –> 00:49:32,100
what a stupid question Peter you
idiot.

861
00:49:32,300 –> 00:49:33,500
Of course, you can have eternal
life.

862
00:49:33,500 –> 00:49:34,500
And what does there is a
disease.

863
00:49:34,500 –> 00:49:36,400
Is there anything else matters?
Is there any old what else would

864
00:49:36,400 –> 00:49:39,300
you want?
Well, Jesus sort of doesn’t

865
00:49:39,300 –> 00:49:41,600
couch the The answer look quite
like that verse 28.

866
00:49:41,700 –> 00:49:47,500
Jesus says unto them verily I
say unto you to you to the group

867
00:49:47,500 –> 00:49:51,600
that not just to Peter they
which have followed me in the

868
00:49:51,600 –> 00:49:54,900
Regeneration when the son of man
shall sit in the Throne of his

869
00:49:54,900 –> 00:49:58,100
glory shall also sit upon twelve
Thrones judging the Twelve

870
00:49:58,100 –> 00:49:59,600
Tribes of Israel.
Now, that’s what the verse we

871
00:49:59,600 –> 00:50:03,000
just looked at now.
We’re all pretty okay with that

872
00:50:03,000 –> 00:50:07,300
but read on in verse 29 so that
verse 28 was to you was the

873
00:50:07,300 –> 00:50:11,400
immediate recipients but verse
29 says and everyone.

874
00:50:12,600 –> 00:50:16,100
Throughout all time that has
forsaken house or Brethren or

875
00:50:16,100 –> 00:50:20,400
sisters or father or mother or
wife or children for land or

876
00:50:20,400 –> 00:50:25,700
lands for my name’s sake shall
receive a hundredfold end.

877
00:50:25,700 –> 00:50:29,900
So the the injection or whatever
whatever and is in Granite City

878
00:50:29,900 –> 00:50:34,700
at the additional thing here the
receive a hundredfold end shall

879
00:50:34,700 –> 00:50:38,100
inherit eternal life.
Now, that’s interesting.

880
00:50:38,100 –> 00:50:39,700
What does that mean?
Literally?

881
00:50:39,700 –> 00:50:43,300
I don’t I can’t give you an
exact answer to Question, but it

882
00:50:43,300 –> 00:50:48,100
implies that maybe it implies
that say a protester from the

883
00:50:48,108 –> 00:50:51,800
from the Middle Ages who is goes
and has his tongue ripped out

884
00:50:51,800 –> 00:50:54,900
and he maintains his
faithfulness despite incredible

885
00:50:55,100 –> 00:50:58,000
persecution sees his family
persecuted all the terrible

886
00:50:58,000 –> 00:51:02,400
things of that experience may
get a better reward than Darren

887
00:51:02,400 –> 00:51:05,100
de Porres is live this pretty
nice middle-class life on the

888
00:51:05,300 –> 00:51:09,000
beautiful Central Coast of New
South Wales and had eight pretty

889
00:51:09,000 –> 00:51:10,500
good and had a pretty good life
man.

890
00:51:10,500 –> 00:51:13,900
So maybe there is in that Um
sort of proportionality that

891
00:51:14,100 –> 00:51:18,300
that there’s a reward given to
that person more than say us

892
00:51:18,600 –> 00:51:23,700
21st century sort of got it good
believers.

893
00:51:24,900 –> 00:51:27,100
And then the next verse says in
verse 13, this is the phrase

894
00:51:27,100 –> 00:51:31,300
we’ll finish up with thinking
about many that are first shall

895
00:51:31,300 –> 00:51:33,700
be last and the last shall be
first again.

896
00:51:34,400 –> 00:51:36,800
That is an interesting concept
and we might just have a quick

897
00:51:36,800 –> 00:51:38,700
think about that before we
finish up.

898
00:51:39,700 –> 00:51:42,600
This whole idea of been least in
the kingdom of God.

899
00:51:43,000 –> 00:51:45,600
What does that mean?
How does that actually play out?

900
00:51:45,600 –> 00:51:47,800
And is it something you’ve
really ever thought about?

901
00:51:47,900 –> 00:51:50,800
What is what on Earth does that
mean to be least in the kingdom

902
00:51:50,800 –> 00:51:55,400
of God as a reality is a concept
that a lot of these references

903
00:51:55,400 –> 00:51:58,000
are in Matthew the concentrating
but just go to Matthew 5 verse

904
00:51:58,000 –> 00:52:00,000
19.
Let’s just try and think this

905
00:52:00,000 –> 00:52:08,700
through This is a really really
interesting little little word

906
00:52:08,700 –> 00:52:11,500
picture and again and again, I
think it’s also this.

907
00:52:12,800 –> 00:52:15,800
This little section here will
reinforce the thesis of my my

908
00:52:15,800 –> 00:52:20,100
whole set of studies that that
there is a difference between

909
00:52:20,300 –> 00:52:25,000
salvation and eternal life and
and being rebuked or punished in

910
00:52:25,000 –> 00:52:27,900
the Judgment seat.
There is a difference and again,

911
00:52:27,900 –> 00:52:31,600
it gets comes out time and time
again, let’s just pick it up in

912
00:52:31,600 –> 00:52:36,800
verse verse 19 whosoever.
Therefore shall break.

913
00:52:37,300 –> 00:52:39,800
Now the King James has got
break.

914
00:52:39,900 –> 00:52:42,200
Has anyone else got another
rendition of that?

915
00:52:43,700 –> 00:52:45,700
Relaxes is good.
I think I say yes, please

916
00:52:45,700 –> 00:52:48,400
Knowles relaxes.
So it’s in some way watering

917
00:52:48,400 –> 00:52:52,800
down God’s principles.
So he that shall break one of

918
00:52:52,800 –> 00:52:56,900
the least of these Commandments
and chill influence others teach

919
00:52:56,900 –> 00:53:02,500
men others that teach men the
same He Shall be Called least in

920
00:53:02,500 –> 00:53:06,700
the Kingdom of Heaven.
So this is a Interesting little

921
00:53:08,400 –> 00:53:12,400
outcome here and then it goes on
and says but whosoever shall do

922
00:53:12,400 –> 00:53:15,600
and teach so he walks the walk
and talks the talk He Shall be

923
00:53:15,608 –> 00:53:17,900
Called great in the Kingdom of
Heaven.

924
00:53:18,800 –> 00:53:22,200
Now, who is this person that
water’s down certain principles.

925
00:53:22,200 –> 00:53:25,400
And and what does that mean?
Well, there are so many there

926
00:53:25,400 –> 00:53:28,000
are so many examples you could
think of and make of this but

927
00:53:28,000 –> 00:53:31,600
you could say well and you could
go both ends of the spectrum.

928
00:53:31,600 –> 00:53:34,100
I mean some people might when
they say the word relax is he’s

929
00:53:34,100 –> 00:53:37,800
got said well, That’s somebody
watering down standards of

930
00:53:37,800 –> 00:53:41,400
watering down sort of, you know,
letting people do things that

931
00:53:41,400 –> 00:53:44,100
they shouldn’t do or whatever or
you can jump the other end of

932
00:53:44,100 –> 00:53:45,500
the spectrum.
So well, that could be someone

933
00:53:45,500 –> 00:53:48,000
that’s playing down some of
those really important things in

934
00:53:48,008 –> 00:53:51,500
Matthew 5 6 and 7, like like
piece that the best of the

935
00:53:51,500 –> 00:53:53,900
peacemakers that John has been
telling us and in the Ecclesia

936
00:53:53,900 –> 00:53:57,900
instead of making peace.
They making you know Division

937
00:53:57,900 –> 00:54:01,500
and and not talking to other
religious and thinking they’re

938
00:54:01,500 –> 00:54:04,100
better than everyone else.
So that is also watering down

939
00:54:04,400 –> 00:54:06,900
the principles of God.
So on both ends of the spectrum

940
00:54:06,900 –> 00:54:10,800
I think are relevant here and if
that affects other people the

941
00:54:10,800 –> 00:54:15,100
problems magnifying and the
result of that is that person is

942
00:54:15,100 –> 00:54:18,900
not necessarily rejected at the
Judgment seat.

943
00:54:19,100 –> 00:54:21,800
There is something about Grace
in his faith that that means

944
00:54:21,800 –> 00:54:24,200
that he’s accepted his in the
pale of Salvation is in the book

945
00:54:24,200 –> 00:54:28,600
of life, but there are
consequences for that and the

946
00:54:28,600 –> 00:54:31,400
consequences play out into the
kingdom.

947
00:54:31,600 –> 00:54:34,500
He’s called least in the kingdom
of God and whatever that means

948
00:54:34,800 –> 00:54:38,600
and the other Brother who’s
consistently teaching and doing

949
00:54:38,900 –> 00:54:41,900
is great in the kingdom of God.
Now there’s this hierarchy of

950
00:54:41,900 –> 00:54:46,100
words actually just from Harry
weekers book on the studies in

951
00:54:46,108 –> 00:54:49,800
the gospel brother would he
could comments and says there is

952
00:54:49,800 –> 00:54:53,200
a there is here an impressive
combination of severity and

953
00:54:53,200 –> 00:54:56,600
graciousness how greatly the
special responsibility of the

954
00:54:56,608 –> 00:54:59,500
teacher is accentuated.
My brethren be not many teachers

955
00:54:59,500 –> 00:55:02,100
is Queenie from James three
knowing that we shall receive

956
00:55:02,100 –> 00:55:05,000
heavy and judgment yet.
It is noted.

957
00:55:05,400 –> 00:55:10,200
Although least such a one may
still be in the kingdom and it’s

958
00:55:10,200 –> 00:55:12,600
interesting.
He goes first Corinthians 3 that

959
00:55:12,600 –> 00:55:16,100
which we looked at yesterday’s a
cross-reference their so even

960
00:55:16,100 –> 00:55:18,000
though he’s least he still in
the Kingdom which is it, which

961
00:55:18,000 –> 00:55:22,200
is again, maybe something we’ve
never really sort of got a

962
00:55:22,200 –> 00:55:25,300
handle on II hadn’t up until I
looked at this subject that

963
00:55:25,300 –> 00:55:29,300
there is this interesting sort
of concept.

964
00:55:31,100 –> 00:55:35,000
Let’s just move along. there
seems to be a bit of a hierarchy

965
00:55:35,300 –> 00:55:39,100
in the Kingdom you in the use of
these these Greek words now

966
00:55:39,100 –> 00:55:43,000
while we’re in Matthew, let’s
look at Matthew 18 verse for

967
00:55:43,000 –> 00:55:47,300
just just just not far away
Matthew 18 verse 4 and here’s

968
00:55:47,300 –> 00:55:52,900
another sort of quantitative
statement about our rewards in

969
00:55:52,900 –> 00:56:01,400
the in the Kingdom Matthew 18
verse for whosoever therefore

970
00:56:01,400 –> 00:56:06,900
shall humble himself as this
little child the same is

971
00:56:06,900 –> 00:56:10,800
greatest in the kingdom of God.
Now the word great that we

972
00:56:10,800 –> 00:56:14,500
looked at in Matthew 5 that the
the brother who’s a teacher and

973
00:56:14,500 –> 00:56:17,900
a doer he’s consistent what he
says and does he’s going to be

974
00:56:17,900 –> 00:56:22,400
great that were great is the
word nigger we get MegaMart from

975
00:56:22,400 –> 00:56:25,300
whatever it’s a mega.
This is a higher word in the

976
00:56:25,308 –> 00:56:26,700
Greek.
It’s a wooden deck zone.

977
00:56:26,700 –> 00:56:29,200
I And it’s even higher than
Mega.

978
00:56:29,500 –> 00:56:33,300
So this brother who’s just all
sister is a humble person who

979
00:56:33,300 –> 00:56:36,400
humble themselves to be like a
little child there Meek and

980
00:56:36,400 –> 00:56:39,600
humble and they take God’s word
into their mind and heart and

981
00:56:39,600 –> 00:56:42,900
they live it their greatest in
the kingdom of God greater than

982
00:56:42,900 –> 00:56:47,100
even the teacher who is a really
really wonderful brother.

983
00:56:47,100 –> 00:56:49,600
He doesn’t he does does good
things.

984
00:56:49,600 –> 00:56:52,100
He teaches good things but even
higher than he’s just a person

985
00:56:52,100 –> 00:56:53,900
who humble themselves like a
little child.

986
00:56:54,300 –> 00:56:57,400
They’re even greater than this
this little hierarchy so Just my

987
00:56:57,400 –> 00:56:59,200
recently stopped Jesus is the
greatest.

988
00:56:59,500 –> 00:57:02,900
The greater in the Kingdom of
Heaven is the people who are

989
00:57:02,900 –> 00:57:06,000
humble in the Ecclesia.
Someone who’s great is some

990
00:57:06,000 –> 00:57:09,100
someone who teaches and does it
actively work doing good work

991
00:57:09,100 –> 00:57:12,300
for God and being consistent
where they can the least is

992
00:57:12,300 –> 00:57:16,300
someone who is relaxing God’s
principles in some way and

993
00:57:16,400 –> 00:57:20,000
leading others to do the same.
And then the Pharisees that

994
00:57:20,000 –> 00:57:22,600
we’re told in Matthew five of
you if you like the Pharisees,

995
00:57:22,900 –> 00:57:24,500
they’re not even they’re not
going to be there at all.

996
00:57:24,600 –> 00:57:26,900
They’re not going to be in the
king so you can see that that

997
00:57:26,900 –> 00:57:30,000
little all hierarchical chart
based upon those words in

998
00:57:30,000 –> 00:57:34,600
Matthew Just to finish up.
I might just make quick

999
00:57:34,600 –> 00:57:38,100
reference.
We’re about to finish some 84

1000
00:57:38,200 –> 00:57:41,800
which we often use about the
kingdom and being accepted at

1001
00:57:41,800 –> 00:57:43,600
the Judgment seat.
Assignment says just from

1002
00:57:43,600 –> 00:57:46,000
memory.
I’d rather I’d be happy to be a

1003
00:57:46,400 –> 00:57:49,700
doorkeeper in the you know, how
you know that one that’s in the

1004
00:57:49,700 –> 00:57:54,000
temple and we often say well and
again based on the scarcity view

1005
00:57:54,000 –> 00:57:56,500
of the Judgment seat.
I’d be lucky if I get in there

1006
00:57:56,500 –> 00:57:59,600
crawling on my hands and legs on
broken glass and if if I just

1007
00:57:59,600 –> 00:58:02,100
make it I’ll be happy to be like
the cleaner that that’s sort of

1008
00:58:02,100 –> 00:58:04,600
the impression that Very
sometimes gives or what we have

1009
00:58:04,600 –> 00:58:08,100
we use it when in fact, there’s
a couple responses.

1010
00:58:08,100 –> 00:58:12,000
Everyone is that that position
is not a lowly position at all.

1011
00:58:12,000 –> 00:58:15,600
It’s quite a very prestigious
position to be that to be so

1012
00:58:15,600 –> 00:58:18,400
closely involved with the temple
Worship in Israel’s culture and

1013
00:58:18,400 –> 00:58:21,800
to be part of that keeping the
door in the temple is a great

1014
00:58:21,800 –> 00:58:24,100
honor and a great that people
would have, you know, given

1015
00:58:24,100 –> 00:58:25,600
their right arm to have a
position like that.

1016
00:58:25,600 –> 00:58:30,000
So it’s sort of a not quite the
we use in the in the way that is

1017
00:58:30,100 –> 00:58:34,600
that is correct and Based on the
fact that God talks about

1018
00:58:34,600 –> 00:58:38,600
rewards so often and you know
Matthew 5 6 or 7 a classic cases

1019
00:58:38,600 –> 00:58:41,000
and they pop up all over the
place is that the attitude God

1020
00:58:41,000 –> 00:58:44,400
really wants us to have any way
does God want us to strive for

1021
00:58:44,400 –> 00:58:46,100
awards?
And this is a little bit

1022
00:58:46,100 –> 00:58:49,700
controversial because you know,
I’ll use this phrase showing off

1023
00:58:49,700 –> 00:58:53,500
to God does God want us to show
off to him now that sort of

1024
00:58:53,508 –> 00:58:56,700
loaded phrase which just to make
you sort of stop and think but

1025
00:58:57,700 –> 00:59:00,200
John I talked about Nehemiah.
The other thing was John had

1026
00:59:00,200 –> 00:59:02,500
mentioned earlier my who said
you kept praying all the time.

1027
00:59:02,800 –> 00:59:05,300
The me for gold remember for
good I could have sat on my

1028
00:59:05,300 –> 00:59:07,400
Laurels as the governor and had
a really crazy life.

1029
00:59:07,400 –> 00:59:09,600
But remember me for good
goddamn, if you could I don’t

1030
00:59:09,600 –> 00:59:10,600
think there’s anything wrong
with that.

1031
00:59:10,600 –> 00:59:12,700
I don’t think there’s anything
wrong with doing works not to

1032
00:59:12,700 –> 00:59:14,600
earn salvation because that’s
not going to happen.

1033
00:59:14,600 –> 00:59:18,200
That’s not what it’s all about.
But consciously doing things in

1034
00:59:18,200 –> 00:59:20,600
the Ecclesia for other people
people are suffering going

1035
00:59:20,600 –> 00:59:22,400
through hard times all those
things.

1036
00:59:23,300 –> 00:59:25,300
There’s nothing wrong with
striving to do those things and

1037
00:59:25,300 –> 00:59:29,100
to doing them to impress God and
to please God and this idea that

1038
00:59:29,100 –> 00:59:31,100
runs through Emirates on look at
now this idea of being well

1039
00:59:31,100 –> 00:59:33,400
pleasing it’s a judgment seat.
Word as well.

1040
00:59:34,100 –> 00:59:36,600
It’s using a number of judgments
that context being well pleasing

1041
00:59:36,600 –> 00:59:40,700
is based on the sacrifices under
the law and the sweet smelling

1042
00:59:40,700 –> 00:59:43,400
Savor and all those Concepts
that we can live our lives to

1043
00:59:43,400 –> 00:59:46,600
give pleasure to God and if
that’s your objective to please

1044
00:59:46,600 –> 00:59:49,400
him to give pleasure.
It’s born out in your works and

1045
00:59:49,400 –> 00:59:53,700
things that you do consciously
and I said, I think you know,

1046
00:59:53,700 –> 00:59:58,100
sometimes we use the the the
parable of the I’m going off

1047
00:59:58,100 –> 01:00:02,200
script you so just bear with me
as I ramble on but the parable

1048
01:00:02,200 –> 01:00:05,500
of the sheep and the goats way
that the people there don’t know

1049
01:00:05,500 –> 01:00:07,300
that they’ve done good.
You know, they say oh, when did

1050
01:00:07,300 –> 01:00:10,800
we see you hungry?
And when we see if really when

1051
01:00:10,800 –> 01:00:12,800
you delve into that Parable what
they didn’t know is they did it

1052
01:00:12,800 –> 01:00:14,100
to Jesus.
It wasn’t they didn’t know that

1053
01:00:14,100 –> 01:00:15,500
they did it.
They obviously knew that they

1054
01:00:15,500 –> 01:00:17,700
did it they went and visited
someone in jail.

1055
01:00:17,700 –> 01:00:20,400
You don’t forget that lightly,
but they didn’t know they did it

1056
01:00:20,400 –> 01:00:22,000
for the Lord.
That was that was where the

1057
01:00:22,000 –> 01:00:24,300
connection is here in Jesus.
If you’ve done it to the least

1058
01:00:24,300 –> 01:00:25,700
of these Brethren you’ve done it
to me.

1059
01:00:26,300 –> 01:00:28,400
So we We need to consciously do
good works.

1060
01:00:28,400 –> 01:00:32,000
It’s not something going to
magically happen somehow and

1061
01:00:32,300 –> 01:00:34,800
it’s something we need to
consciously do and Nehemiah did

1062
01:00:34,800 –> 01:00:37,700
consciously do good works and
Jesus tells us we got to you

1063
01:00:37,700 –> 01:00:42,500
know, give he tells us you’ve
arms in secret for the direct

1064
01:00:42,500 –> 01:00:45,100
objective that your father who
sees in secret will reward you

1065
01:00:45,100 –> 01:00:47,400
openly so there’s nothing wrong
with consciously doing those

1066
01:00:47,400 –> 01:00:50,300
things to please God and this is
where I think young people get

1067
01:00:50,300 –> 01:00:53,700
this they sort of get like they
struggle with this because I

1068
01:00:53,708 –> 01:00:56,700
say, well, why do I have to go
the meeting do I go they just

1069
01:00:56,800 –> 01:00:58,400
Impress God and earn brownie
points.

1070
01:00:58,400 –> 01:01:01,100
Well, it’s not linked to your
salvation.

1071
01:01:01,100 –> 01:01:03,400
If that is something you do to
please God that you want to give

1072
01:01:03,400 –> 01:01:06,500
God you want to show God your
appreciation and and you want to

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01:01:07,200 –> 01:01:10,500
be a sweet smelling Savor if you
want to use that term to God and

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give God pleasure.
Anyway, I’m raving on so I

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better finish up just to finish
up.

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This little idea went look at
it.

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Now.
It’s interesting this little

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analogy in this little idea when
when David rewards his mighty

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men.
He actually rewards them on me.

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It’s on what they achieved all
the great feats that they’d

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achieved.
It’s really quite interesting.

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So these men all went out to the
cave of a dull and Etc.

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They you know says that they’re
pretty sort of Motley Crue

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that’s what they were in debts
and they were fleeing from this

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01:01:39,700 –> 01:01:42,400
and that it was sort of like us
really there’s no bodies that

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were in trouble and you know
looking for something and they

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01:01:46,800 –> 01:01:51,100
come out to David and they are
with David during the bad years

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01:01:51,100 –> 01:01:54,200
the trial years in the
wilderness and when David comes

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01:01:54,200 –> 01:01:57,900
to power and he’s made King in
and Samuel 23 and First

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01:01:57,900 –> 01:02:02,100
Chronicles 11 is quite a
specific response that David has

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any cracks these different
hierarchies and different levels

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01:02:04,900 –> 01:02:08,700
and there’s a group called The
Three and they’ll and he says

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01:02:08,900 –> 01:02:11,400
they were water because they
jumped in a picking killed a

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01:02:11,400 –> 01:02:15,400
lion or they did this and and
the defeats and the acts of

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courage.
They shown were were

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01:02:17,900 –> 01:02:20,100
specifically related to the
position.

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They got in the in the in the
Kingdom.

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There’s this connection with
them.

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01:02:23,700 –> 01:02:26,600
I mean all these men were part
of his kingdom all of them work.

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01:02:26,800 –> 01:02:29,900
Take that into his kingdom.
They all became his he’s private

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01:02:29,900 –> 01:02:31,900
Army and he’s you know, he’s
immediate supporters and all

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that.
They all got they were all there

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01:02:33,400 –> 01:02:36,300
in honor.
But there were some that were

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given special places and special
positions.

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01:02:38,600 –> 01:02:40,900
There was another group called
the three there’s another grank

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01:02:40,900 –> 01:02:42,800
of three.
There’s another Elite group

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01:02:42,800 –> 01:02:45,200
called The 30 and it’s you know,
we had time to look at it with

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01:02:45,200 –> 01:02:47,200
this.
This guy was one of the 30 but

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01:02:47,200 –> 01:02:48,700
he wasn’t one of the three and
this one was one of the three

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was not one of the the secondary
and they all get they all get

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01:02:51,700 –> 01:02:55,200
these these rewards according to
the service and the courage that

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they’d shown so I look like I
have gone over time.

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I apologize.
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