Today we are listening to a talk by Bro. Mike Hardy from The Bethel meeting in Manchester, England on the subject “The Transforming Friendship”, continuing from episode 003, an examination of Christ’s role today.
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Welcome to the good Chris selfie
and talks podcast.
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I’m Levi how this talk is
titled.
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The transforming friendship is
given to us by brother Mike
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Hardy from Manchester England.
This talk was actually a
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suggestion from a brother after
listening to the third episode
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of this show called honor the
son.
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A talk by brother, Tim Badger,
this talk was presented in 2010.
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We Found it a very well studied
in Practical extension from the
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honor, the sun talk, I guess
this is partic.
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The editorial bias of this
program because I personally
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have been meditating on the
relationship of Jesus to us
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today.
So found this talk to be very
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impactful in something, I’ve
personally been interested in.
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So anyone else who was inspired
by that third by episode 3,
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honor, the son, I think we’ll
enjoy this talk as well.
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It’s so often says in the New
Testament that Christ should
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dwell.
Us or there’s quotes like Christ
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in us.
What does that mean?
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And I think you’ll find some
answers in this talk.
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This talk was also a suggestion
and please keep those coming.
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So here’s my card.
E the transforming friendship
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introduction.
I’m so totally to collect we
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speak, I’ve got all sorts of
gadgets here, I’ll get one of
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those and I got a sort of Gordon
Brown microphone here and I’d
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like just to test this and see
if you can hear me when I just
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use this one and not that to
get, can you hear me at the
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back?
Okay, on my Gordon Brown
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microphone?
Yes, good.
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That means I wonder about very,
very good to be here with you.
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It’s, you know, this is this is
a very special weekend.
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I’ve done some talks in other
places, but the great thing
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about being here with you is
that you’re a very special
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audience.
There’s a, there’s a quality of
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listening.
Those people who stand on
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platforms, will know that
there’s a there’s a quality of
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listening and it’s something
special that happens here.
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I think there’s a certain kind
of person can I say that comes
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to all traffic Fellowship
weekend and I think That I’m
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probably going to be talking to
the converted today.
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I think, you know, all about
what I’m saying is that
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feedback?
Because I’m standing near these
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lava, right?
I move over here.
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This is a story.
I don’t know if, you know, it is
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in Texas, oil millionaire, build
himself a new swimming pool.
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Very proud of it.
It was very ritzy and he’s, and
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so I threw a party and filled it
with sharks and invited.
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Lots of uses a lot of the people
who work for him and he said, if
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anybody swims, the length of
this pool, they can have
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anything.
They like anything they ask for
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immediately.
There’s no hesitation
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whatsoever, young man in his
suit and shoes dived in.
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All the sharks could even turn
around.
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He was from one end of the pool
to the other and he came out, he
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stood in a pool of water and the
oil millionaire said to him.
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That was just amazing.
No.
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Just name it.
Anything you like you can have
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it and he said well I really
like the name of the person who
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pushed me out the other end.
well, I know who got me into
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this, it was layers, I can’t see
where she is, but, and I did
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struggle a bit to get out of it
because I’m supposed to be here
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and talk about preaching.
And when I look around this
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room, I can see people here
who’ve done the most amazing,
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preachy events, terrific,
Outreach and fight, really can’t
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match that kind of track record
in preaching, but I do have
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something to say.
And so here I am and all those
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people who weren’t brave enough
to pretend that they had
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children when everybody left.
Do you are right and you know
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you kind of stuck with me round
but we’re going to talk about
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something very special to
transforming friendship and this
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is what I want to say.
This is what it’s all about
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that.
Our relationship with a living
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and indwelling Lord, Jesus,
radically empowers and
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transforms, every part of our
service to God without that,
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we’re just working in our own
strength, the indwelling
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presence of the Lord Jesus
Christ.
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Changes, Everything Changes
Dusty theology into spiritual
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dynamite and that’s where I want
to talk about, and it’s
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important, I think to talk about
this for two reasons.
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And the first is that, it seems
to me that it’s not really given
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the emphasis that it deserves
within our community.
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And for something, which is so
essential for success.
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I think that’s a terrible.
Stu is there was a time in the
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1970s.
Remember the 1970s?
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No, I do.
Unfortunately, I remember
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really.
Well there was a time then when
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it looked as though the
christadelphians teaching about,
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this was going to change and a
lot of the influential speakers
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and writers around about that
time lady Norris James Norris,
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our third diag spread bawling,
Melva perkis We’re all beginning
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to talk about the Holy Spirit
and about the presence of the
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Lord Jesus Christ, and how that
works in our lives.
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But he met with enormous
opposition.
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It was a very bitter opposition.
Thank you.
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And I know that Melva perkis and
some of the others were just
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very concerned that it was going
to cause division in our
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community and so people backed
off.
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But it was a, it was a shame
because it’s left is really in a
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kind of limbo where we don’t is
used to me.
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We don’t have a very clear idea
about the way.
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The Lord Jesus Works in our
lives through the power of the
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Holy Spirit.
And so I think we really need
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the shame of it.
Is the with our understanding of
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the Holy Spirit museum with our
theology isn’t clouded by any
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belief, that the holy spirit is
the third person of the Trinity.
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And so, of all people, we ought
to be able to understand it.
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We ought to have this rise and
sadly we backed away from from
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thinking about it.
So that’s the first reason.
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And the second is it says here
If it’s will, I stand there,
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isn’t it?
Thank you.
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If we don’t get this right then
we get everything wrong.
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Would it help if I move this
desk to the other side, wouldn’t
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it be think?
Come to talk to you now, I’ve
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talked to them and I’m going to
talk to you.
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Yes.
We, if we get this wrong, we get
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everything wrong.
We just turn our faith into
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something, which is based on
duty, and Dusty theology.
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How many people read Harry
Potter can’t admit admit it?
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Aah remembering Harry Potter,
the Dementors to suck the joy
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out of life.
That’s what happens if you don’t
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have this because the offers it
of this price entered faith is
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legalism and legalism is just
such a killer was when Jesus was
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around the Pharisees,
exemplified it and it still is
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today and it’s under the the
tragedy of legalism is we do
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have legal.
Community.
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They look so religious.
You know.
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They look so impressive and you
think well, they must be right.
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But they’re so wrong.
They are so completely wrong and
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they drive all the joy out of
our worship and our relationship
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with the Lord Jesus Christ.
And that’s that’s such a tragedy
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I think.
Okay, right then.
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Try my next Gadget.
Good, thank you face.
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So I press the button, he
presses the button, it’s pretty
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impressive, isn’t it?
What is this?
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That you’ve given me?
I really am selling a while ago,
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and and I think it was It was
this there is a crystallized.
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What I want my faith to be
about.
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Let me just find my copy of
these because otherwise I have
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to keep turning around.
I wonder faith of his
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christ-centered bible-based
active in love that.
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That really is my Manifesto.
That’s the way that I would like
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to be in my life and I was quite
pleased with this.
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So I sent it off to my friend,
Bruce Parker and your brother
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Bruce Parker in in America.
Bruce like this as well.
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In fact, he liked it a lot
because Bruce has a background
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in marketing and he says look we
turn it the other way around.
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It’s ABC.
What a gift that is you note
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when you’re talking to people
and so Bruce said he’s entered
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India at the moment, he said
I’ll go talk about this and I’m
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going to do active in love
bible-based and christ-centered.
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And then I thought, well, that
doesn’t work.
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I think that’s back-to-front,
Theology and it won’t work and
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that just kind of crystallized
it for me.
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That’s not what it means to me
at all.
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So I want to talk about being
christ-centered empowered and
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transformed by the living
presence of the Lord, Jesus
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Christ.
The Apostle Paul’s talks about
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struggling All his energy, which
so powerfully Works in me.
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I want to know what that’s
about.
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I want to know what that feels
like, and I want to know how to
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share that experience with the
Apostle.
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Paul, and bible-based it has to
be real.
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It has to not just wish
fulfillment at us.
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I’ll tell you a secret ever.
Since I got in this morning,
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I’ve been on the edge of a
migraine and anybody a lot.
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So, You I’m sure have migraine
the man at the back, I know.
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And what happens is that your
vision starts to break up, you
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get this thing called a scotoma
and flashing lights and
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dazzling.
And I thought this happens, it’s
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going to be an interesting
morning.
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And so that’s beyond the edges
of my Consciousness all morning.
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There’s a medieval Mystic
Hildegard of bingen who used to
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have visions of the Lord Jesus
Christ.
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And Painted these Visions
lawyers later man called Oliver
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Sacks wrote a book on the grave
and he said, I think what she
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was experiencing was the scotoma
of me grain and that she and she
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draws these pictures of the
visions that she has and the
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surrounded by those kind of
zigzag dazzling lies.
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It’s important that with the,
our belief isn’t just wish
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fulfillment.
It has to be real and so our
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faith has to be Christ centered,
but it has to be bible-based as
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well.
And so, I’m going to spend a
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little time this morning talking
about the scriptures, which,
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which Define this relationship
with the Lord Jesus Christ, the
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indwelling presence of the Lord
Jesus Christ.
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And it has to be active in love.
If it’s going to be real, it has
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to produce results.
Won’t work the other way around.
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But if we have this relationship
with the Lord, Jesus Christ,
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then we’re going to produce.
Fruit press my button Pete, so I
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find again.
It’s first right, what’s up?
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Okay, this is Peterson’s
translation, fruit of the spirit
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and I love the translation.
What happens when we live God’s
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away?
He brings gifts into our lives.
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Much the same way that fruit
appears in an orchard things
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like affection for others.
Exuberance about life.
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This is the opposite of
legalism.
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Isn’t it exuberance about life
Serenity, we develop a
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willingness to stick with things
a sense of compassion in the
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heart and a conviction that a
basic Holiness, permeates,
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things.
And people without find
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ourselves involved in loyal
commitments, not needing to
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force our way in life, able to
Marshal and direct our energies
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wisely, read the rest of it.
If you got a copy of Peterson’s
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translation at home because it’s
a terrific, Quick description of
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the fruit of the spirit.
And the thing about this is
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these are attractive qualities.
Remember that last year?
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Those of you who were here, huh?
Girls no yes we’ll remember John
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saying this people don’t care
how much you know until they
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know how much you care that
stayed with me all year really
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and that’s what I think.
That’s the main thing that I
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took away really from from Don’s
talk last year and the purpose
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of the fruit of the spirit is to
draw people into that
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relationship with the Lord Jesus
Christ.
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And if our faith is working in
our relationship, with them is
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working, is going to happen to
you.
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Is that is what, you know,
Jesus, as your the, on the vine,
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you are the branches, branches.
Bear fruit is what they do.
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If you stay attached to the
vine, is what they do.
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So preaching, I think in the
formal sense comes later, okay?
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It’s time we wrote something,
isn’t it?
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So will you turn to Mark chapter
11?
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Going to read to you verses 1 to
20 baccala.
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As they approached Jerusalem,
and came to bethphage and
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Bethany at the Mount of Olives.
Jesus sent two of his disciples
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saying to them, go to the
Village ahead of you.
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And just, as you enter it, you
will find a Colt tied there,
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which no one has ever ridden, a
little girl, come to our South
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Lakes once and she did really
for us and Jesus according to
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her said, go into the city.
They will find a clause tied to
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a tree.
Sorry, where was I?
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Untie it and bring it here.
If anyone asks you, why you
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doing this?
Tell him.
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The Lord means.
It will send it back here
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shortly.
And I went and found the cold
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outside in the street ties to
doorway as they untied it.
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Some people standing there
asked, what what are you doing?
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Untying that colt.
They answered as Jesus had told
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them to and the people that them
go.
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When they brought the Colt to
Jesus, who through their cloaks
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over it, he sat on it.
Many people spread their cloaks
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on the road while others spread
branches, they had cut in the
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fields.
Those who went ahead and those
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who follow shouted.
Hosanna blessed.
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Is he who comes in the name of
the Lord blessed, is the coming
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Kingdom of Our Father, David
hosanna in the highest Jesus
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entered Jerusalem, and went to
the temple.
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He looked around at everything
but since it was already late,
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he went out to Bethany with the
twelve the next day as they were
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leaving.
Bethany.
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Jesus was hungry seeing in the
distance.
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A fig tree in leaf.
He went to find if he’d had any
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fruit when he reached it, he
found nothing but leaves because
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it was not the season for figs.
Then he said to the tree, May no
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one ever eat fruit from you
again and his disciples heard
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him say it.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus
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entered the temple area and
began driving out those who were
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buying and selling their, he
overturned the tables of the
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money changers and the benches
of those selling doves would not
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allow anyone to carry
merchandise through the temple
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courts.
And as he taught them, he said,
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is it not written?
My house will be called a house
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of prayer for all nations, but
you have made it a den of
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robbers.
The chief priests and the
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teachers of the law heard this
and began, looking for a way to
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kill him for, they feared him
because the whole crowd was
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amazed at his teaching.
When evening came.
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They went out of the city in the
morning as they went along.
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I saw the Fig Tree withered from
its roots.
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So, here we have the triumphal
entry of Jesus into Jerusalem.
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The crowds all chanting these
words from Psalm 118 is the only
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complete sentence, I know in
Hebrew.
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And so Sue’s over there, she
knows I’ve got to say it, but
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hookah bar b’shem Adonai.
But I promise, I’ll only say it
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once I try it after you just say
it once, I’ll just love this.
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Blessed is he who comes in the
name of the Lord and it’s a song
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that hundred eighteen Psalm
about David’s victories.
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It’s David returning from his
victories over the Philistines,
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a conquering King but it’s also
something else in Judaism.
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It’s the beginning of the Jewish
wedding.
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If you go to a Jewish wedding
anywhere in the world, it always
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begins that way that the
congregation wait for the bride,
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groom to arrive.
And as soon as he appears they
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say, I can just it was more.
Okay, Baruch Haba b’shem, Adonai
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blessed.
Is he who comes in the name of
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the Lord.
And you see what they’re saying?
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Jesus is the Messiah.
He’s the bridegroom.
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He’s the one.
We’ve been waiting for
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tremendous moment.
Exciting moment.
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Then Jesus is the Fig Tree
curses.
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The Fig Tree we’re going to the
temple which is just been
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corrupted being used for selfish
purposes is not being used as a
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house of God at all.
Is being used for material gain
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is being used for self-promotion
of a, kind of a religious Elite.
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And then they returned.
And in the morning, the Fig Tree
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is withered.
A lot of people think the Fig
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Tree is a symbol for Israel.
Heidi is symbol for the temple.
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It’s a perfect symbol for that.
What worship of God has become?
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It’s it’s got leaves but it’s
got no fruit.
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And that’s what empty religion
does.
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It’s kind of very showy and it
looks pretty good but it has no
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substance.
It has no fruit.
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And Jesus is saying that he’s
replaced the temple.
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A system of belief has been
replaced by a relationship with
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a person Jesus of replace the
temple.
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God’s living presence departed
from the temple.
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Long ago.
Remember Eli’s, grandson was
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Ichabod or the saddest names in
the history of the world.
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The glory has departed.
Holiness isn’t found.
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In a building Holiness isn’t
found in our system of belief is
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found in a Can ship in Hebrew,
the words.
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Holy is kadosh and the word for
marriage is Kiddush in the so
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closely related.
It’s about a relationship It
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won’t work again, please.
Thanks one that said I’m
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indebted to you, Margaret over
there for reminding me of this
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quotation.
From Andrew Murray, Holiness
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doesn’t come by seeking Holiness
comes by seeking the Lord Jesus
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Christ.
The temples gone at the end of
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Matthew’s gospel, Jesus tells
his disciples.
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It’s going to be pulled down.
There won’t be one stone left or
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another it’s like a leprous
house in Leviticus. it’s going
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to be pulled apart Stone by
Stone because it’s, it’s become
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an evil place and Jesus says,
the end of Matthew’s gospel, you
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won’t see me again, until you
say blessed, is he who comes in
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the name of the Lord has to be
like that for us, where the
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bride of Christ, we’re inviting
him in triumphal entry into our
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lives and when that happens then
we’re going to produce fruit as
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well as leaves its Just going to
be showy religion.
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It’s not just gonna be rote
learning, it’s not just going to
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be a matter of Doctrine.
It’s going to be something which
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produces fruit.
It’s going to be something,
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which changes the world because
of the presence of a living.
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Lord Jesus.
What is the sing Jesus to be the
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center.
Must remember to switch this off
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because I have a terrible scene
boy.
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Okay.
I want to say that is Christ
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centered and bible-based, it has
to be he has to be rooted in
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clear, Bible teaching.
Now I’m not there an awful lot
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of time here and so you’re going
to have to go home and do the
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legwork yourself, but I want to
show you just where to look
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three things.
I want to show you if you don’t
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already know them.
As the first one, because the
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word, which occurs in John’s
gospel, got all the way through
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John, picks up the teaching of
the Lord Jesus Christ.
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And we went, and this word
appears about 40 odd times in
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the Gospel of John, and it’s the
word to dwell to abide.
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Unfortunately, translations
haven’t really helped us because
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they often translating all kinds
of different ways, but you know
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what it means because Very early
in the gospel.
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Jesus, is walking along Peter
and Andrew, is it?
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I think of following him.
And Jesus says to Peter, you
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want to ask me a question and
Peter always has something to
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say not always sensible, and not
very sensible on this occasion,
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really because he says, where do
you live?
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All right.
John in his wisdom, records,
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this encounter.
And I think the reason a does it
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is the flag of the meaning.
Right at the beginning of the
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Gospel of this word meno in
mean.
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I don’t know which work for his
first for downside, but it means
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to dwell or to abide and it’s
about the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Who will dwell in US.
Have a look for it for once in a
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while.
Do the thing where you get the
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you know, the highlighter and
get your concordance and just
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highlight all the times that
this happens in the Gospel of
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John and the Epistles of John
because it’s so important this
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teaching and you learn a lot by
doing it.
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That’s it.
Okay, what I’ve done here is
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I’ve slightly retranslated.
So every time the word meno
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appears, I’ve translated it
dwell, this is what Jesus says,
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the thing that Neil read to us.
I am the True Vine.
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And my father is, the gardener
he cuts off every branch in me,
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that bears, no fruit, while
every branch that does bear
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fruit, he prunes so as it will
be even more fruitful, you are
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already clean because of the
word I have spoken to you dwell
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in me.
And I will dwell in you no
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Branch can bear fruit by itself,
it must dwell in the vine
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neither.
Can you bear fruit?
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Unless you dwell in me?
I am the vine.
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You are the branches.
If a man dwells in me and I
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dwell in him, he will bear much
fruit.
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Apart from me, you can do
nothing and you think Jesus is
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trying to tell us something
there.
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I think he is and that kind of
teaching occurs.
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As all the way through John’s
gospel.
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And so going to go away
hamburger time to go through
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them all purchases business of
Earth, a Bible class, rather
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talk like this, but you need to
do it, you need to go and look
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at it and fix it in your mind
because it’s has to be rooted in
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clear Bible teaching.
So, that’s the first big body of
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teaching to do with this word,
to dwell, or to abide.
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Try again, good.
Did I do that?
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Why did you do that?
You design.
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Straps.
This is nothing really isn’t.
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It’s just, this is just a toy.
Then there’s this whole body of
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teaching about Christ in you the
Apostle Paul very, very
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important to him to her.
Yes and it occurs all the way
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through his teachings, just give
you one example in Colossians.
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God has chosen to make known
among the Gentiles, the Glorious
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Riches of this mystery which is
Christ in.
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You the hope of glory, we
Proclaim him admonishing and
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teaching everyone with all
wisdom.
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So that we may present every one
perfect in Christ.
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And Paul says, to this end, my
labor struggling with all his
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energy which so powerfully Works
in me.
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I want to know what that feels
like.
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I want to know what that’s about
and all the way through the
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letters of Paul, you’ll find
this teaching.
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Christ in you.
If you want to, if you want a
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reference list all these things
just give me your email address
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and I’ll email you some, some
notes.
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But you really need to do the
work Christ in you the hope of
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glory.
And look we’re not talking about
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just the words of the Lord Jesus
Christ.
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But they’re in words are
important.
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You need to know what Jesus
says.
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I’m not just talking about the
example, of the Lord Jesus
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Christ, because the examples
important, I’m talking to dead
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people influence people in
there.
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His ways with their words and
their example but the Lord Jesus
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Christ is alive and promising to
be with us to the ends of the
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world a living in dwelling, Lord
Jesus.
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So that’s the second body of
teaching and you need to look at
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it and the third is the teaching
in the Gospel of John about the
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paraclete Jesus, before his
crucifixion, gives this teaching
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to his disciples, trying to
prepare them, and trying to
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teach them something, which must
have been absolutely impossible
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for them to comprehend at that
time that he would be with them
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after his death and
Resurrection, I will ask the
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father, he he will send another
counselor to be with you forever
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Greeks, very precise language.
It has two words for another one
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is Allison.
What is heteros?
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I lost wins one of this, exactly
the same kind.
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Somebody just like Jesus.
We run for his note.
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That’s it.
I’m sorry pressed to this.
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It’s the world cannot accept him
as Spirit of truth because it
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neither sees him nor knows him
but, you know, him for he lives
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with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you as orphans.
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Jesus says I will come to you.
It’s a promise of the presence
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of the Living Lord Jesus Christ
with his people after his
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resurrection.
My dear children, he says, here
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in the Epistle of John, I write
this to you so that you will not
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sin.
But if anyone does sin, we have
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one who speaks to the father in
our defense.
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Now, that word is Advocate, if
you’ve got a new King James
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version, that’s how its
translated.
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It’s the same word, it’s the
paraclete, it’s the counselor,
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it’s the presence of the Lord
Jesus Christ.
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And I think for me this first
just clinches it and makes it
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Obvious.
Now, does this bother you?
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This kind of teaching about the
indwelling presence of the Lord
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Jesus Christ.
Has it sound a bit on
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christadelphians?
Because I think some people
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think that it’s not very
christadelphians but it is it
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really is.
But let me just hunger time to
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give you many protections but I
can give you a couple.
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Now we’ll smart.
It is clear from this that the
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coming of the comforter spirit
is the coming of Jesus himself.
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With Paul, as with John, the
operation of the holy spirit in
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Human Experience is almost
indistinguishable from the
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indwelling of Christ.
The spirit being the means by
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which Christ comes to us and
works within us.
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No, the Turkish.
How many people got Melva
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purchases Life of Christ as a
sunday-school present?
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Yeah, there’s a certain age
group that’s gonna be quite
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interesting.
Yes.
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Melba.
Perky said this in a letter, I
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firmly believe that the
indwelling of the father and the
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son is virtually the same as the
indwelling of the spirit.
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After all the spirit is only,
that’s his exploration of art,
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the power of God, working in
lives, dedicated to him and that
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by the grace, which is in Jesus.
Just one last one.
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But there are many more, and
this is Arthur hail writing in
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the Bible missionary, terrific
series he did in the Bible
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missionary called are exalted.
Lord is go back and have a look
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at it.
Jesus said the paraclete would
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abide with his followers
forever.
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A promise that would be hard to
reconcile with a few Decades of
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witness in the first century.
The Lord is the same yesterday
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today and forever, so that his
interest and participation in
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the witness of his servants in
all ages.
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Is assured.
That’s just a selection that I
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can give you. but you got to do
the Lego at yourself really and
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Let me just make one thing clear
and I don’t think I need to make
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this clear to you.
I’m talking about fruit of the
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spirit and not gift to the
spirit right there.
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We got into an awful lot of
hassle talking about whether you
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have Spirit gifts I’m not all
that interested.
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Really, if God wants you to have
gifts, he’ll give you gifts.
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Don’t worry about it, but what
you do need to have is fruit.
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Jesus Says by their fruit.
You shall know who are, my
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disciples is a by their gifts.
He said by their fruit, that’s
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the defining principle.
Okay.
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That’s the that’s the Bible part
and I really do think you have
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to go and do it in, do the work
yourself because it’s so
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important that this is based on
clear, Bible teaching.
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It’s there for you to find if
you’re not, then he’s already.
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Okay, let me ask you a question.
If everything depends on this
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relationship, how do we nourish
it and make it as good as we
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possibly can?
Is it something that’s going to
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happen?
And be so powerful, all through
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your life.
I’m used to do a little
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research.
Here we put your hand up.
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If you’ve been married more than
10 years, lots of all lots of
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people.
Okay?
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When you put your Handler who
married, more than 20 years,
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Bill at want.
Anybody new variables and 30
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years?
Goodness.
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Me.
How about hello?
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Try it 40 years.
Ha ha ha.
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00:32:55,100 –> 00:33:02,800
Oh I didn’t realize you were
sold 50 years, everyone.
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00:33:03,700 –> 00:33:06,500
Whoa, Philip.
How many years have you been
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married?
52 years.
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What a saintly work.
Woman.
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Dorothea 52 years.
Have you any idea how many times
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you kissed?
Her?
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No, well, fortunately, I brought
my calculator.
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00:33:30,200 –> 00:33:33,900
Let’s just go for the assumption
that, you know, once stood once
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a day, 52 years.
Wow, 18,000 512, at least, that
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would go through at least, once
a day, I’m sure right now Philip
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don’t do anybody else is this
Some of those kisses Philip were
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00:34:04,200 –> 00:34:06,500
forged in the white-hot, fires
of passion.
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00:34:06,500 –> 00:34:15,600
When they, I don’t want to know
about those but some of them
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were just that every day, kiss
on the cheek when you went to
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work.
But they were important to, and
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00:34:24,199 –> 00:34:27,800
I, because they’re part of a
relationship that’s gone on for
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a long, long time.
We thank God that it has.
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00:34:32,100 –> 00:34:35,500
The part of something, very
precious and something special
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00:34:35,800 –> 00:34:39,400
life is for The Living Lord,
Jesus Christ isn’t always,
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00:34:39,699 –> 00:34:44,600
spiritual highs, very important.
Those times of refreshing but
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00:34:44,600 –> 00:34:48,900
the day-to-day experience of a
living Lord, sometimes is a bit
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00:34:48,900 –> 00:34:53,699
every day in a bit mundane, but
it’s still the real thing.
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00:34:53,699 –> 00:34:58,500
Still precious, still special
still keeps us together all
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these years.
Okay.
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00:35:04,800 –> 00:35:10,000
There’s a question I would ask.
But who is this good.
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00:35:11,500 –> 00:35:15,800
We talk about this later on if
it’s so important as quality,
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00:35:16,300 –> 00:35:20,000
there must be a test I want to
talk about in the second
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session.
What is the test?
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I’m going to we’re going to
break now.
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I’ve got four minutes left, it’s
pretty good.
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00:35:31,400 –> 00:35:35,000
Eh.
Yeah, we’re going to break and
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00:35:35,000 –> 00:35:37,000
we’re going to go to some
discussion groups because what I
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00:35:37,008 –> 00:35:40,900
want here.
Something that’s very important
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about a weekend.
Like this is, It’s a fellowship
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00:35:44,000 –> 00:35:46,900
weekend.
It’s about God’s people being
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00:35:46,900 –> 00:35:51,800
together, sharing our
experience, helping each other
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00:35:52,700 –> 00:35:57,200
and I want you to go away and
talk about how you experience
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00:35:57,200 –> 00:36:00,800
this relationship.
How do you make it strong?
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00:36:02,600 –> 00:36:05,700
What do you do when something
goes wrong with it?
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00:36:06,000 –> 00:36:10,800
And you seem far apart from God.
Because we’re all different
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00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:14,800
personalities.
We all relate to the Lord, Jesus
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00:36:14,800 –> 00:36:18,100
Christ in different ways.
And I want you to talk about
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that, we used to tell each other
because that’s how we strengthen
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each other, and that’s how we
grow.
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00:36:24,900 –> 00:36:27,100
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