Today we are listening to a talk by Bro. David Fraser given at Pinetown in South Africa in 2018 titled “Can Creation and Modern Science Co-Exist?”

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Welcome to the good Christian
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And now let’s hear more about
this week’s talk.

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So this talk from David Frazier
was fantastic, both of us,

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really enjoyed it and we are
recording this intro together

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for our first time on this show.
Now, neither of us are

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scientists, which I think is the
important Point leading into

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this talk because there’s a lot
of debate around a topic like

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this.
Yeah, there’s there’s a lot of

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ways that people approach
creation and how creation fits

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with modern science.
As man has grown his knowledge

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house nature and the world
around us works.

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And we realize that for some
people this topic Is a major

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point of faith for them
understanding creation and how

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it worked, and how God created
the world in the universe and us

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for myself, it’s not a super
critical point.

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Don’t know about.
I think it’s the same for me.

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I mean, we kind of both
recognize that all things come

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from God, but but we feel
nervous to talk about this topic

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because we know it’s divisive in
other countries.

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It’s really not for us because
we’re both here in Southern

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California.
It hasn’t been a major issue

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yet.
But also, like we’re saying for

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each of us for our individual
Faith.

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So I think we would try to put
this before we started

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recording.
It’s not a major Faith white,

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but we respect that.
It is for some people.

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But David Fraser here lays out a
case that I think is very

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compelling and encouraging for
really anyone because he has a

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humility.
I think that’s the most

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important part about this
presentation is he has a

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humility to respect the truth.
That is in both the Bible and

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nature.
I think one of the things that I

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really liked about his
presentation was he starts off

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by making the very clear
distinction that what’s the role

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of the Bible and of the creation
account that we read in the

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scriptures, it’s not.
The Bible is not a scientific

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textbook, it’s not intended to
teach us the scientific method

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or you know how cells are
created or anything like that.

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That’s not the role of it.
He makes the point that if you

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try to make the Bible into a
method of teaching science,

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you’re going to get yourself
into trouble because the purpose

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of the Bible isn’t to teach
Science.

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It’s the teach the truth and to
make it applicable and

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approachable to anybody of any
level of learning.

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We have to remember that this
was something that was being

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taught to people before modern
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Was even a thought in Humanity’s
mind, right?

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But so it’s still applicable now
but at the same time I was

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durable.
Science, is a record left by

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God, Brother.
David says, a couple times in

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this talk that there is a truth
to what we can observe in nature

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and in science.
He says that later in the talk,

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I think it’s in the last, like,
kind of third that you can’t

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have a theologian meet a
scientist completely in the

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middle, there is a space between
their the words.

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He uses are very impactful for
me and I think they’re going to

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be impactful for anyone who
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There are two records, the Bible
and nature.

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I think both of us are a little
nervous about postings talk

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knowing the controversy, I guess
that’s around this, but we still

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think it’s worth it because this
is a good one.

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So David Fraser Cain creation of
modern science.

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Close this.
My dear friends, it’s an

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interesting topic because a lot
of people in today’s world think

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that these two are diametrically
opposed, they think that

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creation and science are equal
and opposite poles, and can

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never reconcile.
And if you speak to a lot of

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people, they think that if you
believe in creation, you can’t

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believe in science and vice
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So we’d like to look at this
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will look at the creation
briefly, obviously we can’t look

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at it in macro sin microscopic
detail and they will look a

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little bit about what modern
science is about and

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particularly modern science and
creation and what modern science

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has to say about the data of
creation.

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And then we were trying to
answer the final question as to

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whether they can coexist.
So Creation itself.

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The creation itself in the Bible
is presented for us.

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In those beautiful words of
Genesis 1 verse 1 probably the

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densest of all significant
verses in the entire Bible that

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prologue to the Bible actually
sets the tone for the entire 66

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books of the Bible.
It is a verse that is denser

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with meaning and importance than
probably any other verse in the

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entire Bible.
And this wonderful verse which

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speaks about in the beginning,
God created the heavens and the

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Earth tells us a whole lot of
things directly by implication

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and also by inference.
So let’s have a look at some of

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these things.
What does Genesis 1 verse 1,

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tell us about the universe
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Genesis 1 verse 1 says, it was a
created thing.

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It didn’t just spontaneously
come in to be Genesis, one tells

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us that it was a willful act.
It was created by somebody and

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it was created with intent with
purpose.

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And with meaning it’s not just
merely a blind collection of

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forces and material that make up
the universe.

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It says there was an intent.
To create all that is, there was

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something behind it, a purpose
and meaning.

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And it also says it had a
beginning.

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There was a time when matter and
time itself did not exist.

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It was a time when all of these
things came into be time itself

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started.
When the universe was created,

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We see this encompassed in that
term, everything because the

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universe is everything that is
and that idiom that’s used in

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the scripture, Heaven and Earth,
actually means everything.

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It’s a Hebrew idiom that talks
about everything.

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It’s like saying everything
inside and outside, it means

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everything.
You can’t exclude anything from

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that.
That’s what that idiom Heaven.

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And Earth means it’s saying that
it’s as the totality of all.

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It was created in the beginning.
And it consists of all space and

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all time.
And time did not exist outside

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of that which was created in
Genesis 1 verse one time, as a

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principal only exists in the
universe in which we currently

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are and I can even show to you
that time is relevant just to

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you or to me there is no.
Now in the universe there’s just

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a time that is relevant to me
and his time relevant to you

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talk stick differently at the
top of the mountain.

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Compared with that the sea.
Do you know that there is no?

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Absolute time.
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did not exist without God.
And the last important Point

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here is that certain laws were
established at the very

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commencement of the universe
which were essential for the

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purposefulness of this universe
to bring forth life if those

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laws weren’t exactly right at
the beginning of the universe.

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You and I wouldn’t be here.
We couldn’t possibly happy

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having this discussion this
morning.

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So what it’s saying is that
there were laws and principles

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embedded into the very fabric Of
space and time as metamaterial

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that are designed for you and I
to have life.

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And that’s remarkable thing was
those laws were good and perfect

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and true.
And Genesis 1 tells us a couple

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of things about God as well.
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It says that God is a Creator.
So a God who makes something out

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of nothing.
But not only that, he is the

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creator.
The God, Who is the only one who

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is doing this work, he is the
omnipotent.

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Genesis 1:1 also tells us that
God, existed prior to the

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universe coming into being that
all that we see is a product and

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a subset of the greatness of
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He is eternal and Beyond Time.
And beyond space, he can dip

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into the past, the present and
the future equally because they

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underneath him.
They are a subset of what God

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is.
God is greater than the entire

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universe because it is a product
of his will.

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He willed it into being, and so
it came forth.

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It’s a remarkable thing you.
And I have to put a lot of

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effort into make the smallest of
things.

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God’s power in his will will
this universe into being.

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And it came for And he’s this
God as we said who exists

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outside of all space and outside
of all time and is bounded by

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neither its us silly humans who
try and put limitations and

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Shackles on God he is Limitless
in every sense of the word he is

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bounded by another space or
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And it’s interesting that right
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God creates a distinction in the
very first verse of the Bible

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between that, which is Off the
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heavens.
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is not so much talking about
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about the things that are
related to of the earth earthy

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and of the Heavenly and the
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In other words, God was adding a
spiritual realm right into the

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physical nature.
Just the universe, he was

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weaving into it.
This whole wonderful tapestry of

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there, being a spiritual
purpose, behind the physical

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creation.
There is meaning and purpose in

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all that God did Now, the race
of the first four chapters of

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Genesis, which are the creation
texts, are all they to teach us

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wonderful things, they there to
teach us the principles of a God

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principled or God purpose life.
Now, if you think about these

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parallels, we’ve got a universe
that is designed by God to

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support life.
And then we’ve got Genesis,

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which is teaching us the
principles of a god, supported

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life.
The two are running in parallel

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and I hope if that’s one thing
you remember from Today, that

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that’s the principal.
You remember the whole of

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Genesis?
Was there to teach God’s purpose

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in life and it just have a look
at what I mean.

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Just by our, I’ll just run
through one or two summaries.

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God talks about separation of
light, and dark day and night

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Waters from above from Waters,
from beneath separation.

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The principles of separation of
the Earth from the sea, That the

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Earth was to bring forth life of
its own, the Earth, had to yield

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fruit.
The Earth had to do something of

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itself.
And as a result, we’ve got these

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wonderful two kingdoms, the
plant kingdom and the animal

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kingdom.
And again, there’s a separation

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between animals and man, animals
were not the same as man, and in

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terms of principles and
thinking, and God had to show

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Adam that.
And at the very beginning of

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Genesis, they were in positions
of laws and principles for

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sustainable life, just like the
physical Universe.

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God, put these laws and in
Genesis, to show the way that

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you and I should have
sustainable life and those are

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the laws upon the trees.
And then, of course, we’ve got

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the rule of Free Will being
established.

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And why that’s important is,
it’s teaching you and me that we

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have to question things, we have
to have the ability to have a

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reasoned Faith.
The reason Behavior, not just

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blindly going along with what
the masses tell us.

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And then another principle is
that there’s a separation

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between the way that animals
think, and the way that God

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thinks and wants us to think,
and of course, we know that to

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Genesis was all about dealing
with failure.

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Failure to reason Godly in a
Godly way and dealing with

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errors and the principles of
separation from life.

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I mean, finally, that wonderful
path of recovery.

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That all of these things were
kept the way of the tree of life

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was Kept For Those Who Would One
Day, find it, once again.

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So Genesis is all about doing
one thing and if you read

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through Genesis, the first four
chapters very carefully, what do

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you see?
You see the emphasis is on the

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word of God.
God spoke and it was so God

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spoke with Adam and the cool of
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God said, the following things,
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Now, in a spiritual creation,
was trying to create this Adam

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and Eve who would follow him at
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devolved back to an Earthly
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And the wonderful thing about
this word of God, it was present

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at the beginning of creation for
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And there’s isn’t Genesis
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People principles of Life of
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That’s what word means.
There’s a lovely Psalm, which

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says this exactly.
In Psalm 33, verse 6 by the word

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of the Lord, the heavens were
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the breath of his mouth.
Now, you and I know that stars

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and planets and galaxies aren’t
blown into existence and you see

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this is where we can sometimes
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If we start to assume that God
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or painting butterflies Wings.
It minimizes the greatness of

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God God is saying I just need to
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will it and it becomes so
because I’ve said every law

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perfectly For that to be the
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comforting thing because the
very self same laws that sustain

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life in also, sustained
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If we follow them with the same
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again from the Jewish Bible
Hebrews. 11 verse 3 by trusting

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or by faith.
We understand that the Universe

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was created through a spoken
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See this is what scriptures
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word of God is preeminent.
It is the principal thing.

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It is the mind of God in the
form that can do things and can

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impact.
So the universe was created

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through the spoken word of God.
So that which is seen what we

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can look at in the physical
world is, did not come into

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being out of existing phenomena.
Now that’s very interesting.

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It’s very interesting at a
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saying that there wasn’t Another
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simply recycled and this became
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universe.
It’s not saying that they were a

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whole lot of other materials
around that would just simply

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repurposed for this universe.
This universe was custom

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designed by God.
For life to exist for sentient

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beings to be in it that can
worship and love him and follow

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his higher Heavenly principles,
and all of these things

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happened.
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it’s incredibly powerful.
So what we have to understand is

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that Genesis teaches us the why?
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And if we going to do ourselves,
a great service in understanding

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God, we need to keep
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happen.
We need to look at the

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principles behind them.
If we try and lead to Genesis

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teach us science you and I are
going to be grossly, letdown it

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is not a scientific textbook.
Have you ever thought why can’t

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be a scientific textbook?
It had to appeal to people

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thousands of years ago, who
didn’t have any of the science

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and knowledge.
We have it said to appeal to

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people of great education and
have no education.

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It had to have principles that
permeated all pouches, whether

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they were sophisticated
Advanced, Swiss watch, makers,

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or people from rural area, the
same word of God is going to

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appeal, to them, equally with
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God is not teaching us science
in the Bible and we do ourselves

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a huge disservice.
If we try and take this Bible

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and make it try and teach
scientific principles, we end up

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looking like fools and we got to
be very Be careful that we never

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do that.
It’s not a scientific text and

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you know what?
It’s wonderful that it isn’t a

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scientific text because it’s so
far beyond our thinking, what

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God has done that you and I
could never understand it.

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Could you and I understand how
God could make something out of

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nothing, there is no science.
That explains that Isaiah, 45

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Verse 18 says, thus says the
Lord who created the heavens,

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who is God, who formed the Earth
and made it who has established

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it.
Who did not create it in vain

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who formed it to be inhabited?
I am the lord and there is no

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other Why is that verse so
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It’s important because God says
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the universe is therefore
purpose, it is a purposeful

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universe that he created.
He didn’t just create it to make

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beautiful nebula and wonderful
stars and a beautiful Alpine

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Valley.
God didn’t create the world for

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those purposes though, they are
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He created it for purpose.
In vain for vanity saying he

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created to be inhabited by
people who love and worship him

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as the great Creator.
God.

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So, what does science have to do
with this modern science?

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While science deals with the how
questions not the why questions

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science has got to do with
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And it sounds like it’s dumbing
it down but it really isn’t.

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If you can’t measure it with
some instrument or some

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principle or some law or some
process, it isn’t science.

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If it can’t be measured, science
does not apply and keep

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remembering that because, you
know what science can measure

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how much.
A mother loves her children.

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There is no unit of measure for
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There’s no way of quantifying
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There’s no way of quantifying
the self-sacrifice of one person

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for another.
All of those things are outside

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of science.
Science has got to do with

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things that can be measured.
Here’s an example of

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measurement, the two largest
Earthbound telescopes at the

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moment are in Hawaii and the
busy shooting lasers up into

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the, the Milky Way so that they
can precisely measure, the

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Optics of the atmosphere to
adjust for them.

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So they can get a really good
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You see, it’s about
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It’s about analysis.
It’s about minimizing error and

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it’s about getting things
technically, right?

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That’s what could Inches.
And scientists, of course, you

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know, it covers many different
domains that the principal about

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science starts with questions.
And it’s a good thing science is

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about asking you a question and
then doing some background

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research, often constructing an
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And I thought this is something
testing.

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It’s going out and doing
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Does this glass of water boil,
higher at a higher point on the

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mountains, compared, with the
sea and you test it?

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And then you see with the
procedures working or not, you

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might change your experiment and
then you’d write it up and you

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publish it and you might, then
go and say, well, let’s try

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another experiment.
That’s the sum total of what

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science is, whether it’s the
wonderful science of that

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projector, which uses Quantum
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Actually make these colors
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It’s all the same thing.
It’s this process that keeps

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getting used and that process
applies to things that can be

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measured the physical world.
It doesn’t apply to the

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spiritual to the Y to the
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So, what does modern science
then have to say about what

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we’ve been talking about the
topic of creation?

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Well, interestingly enough most
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actually a very life friendly
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They would agree that it’s a
bio-friendly universe that

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scenes from their observations
as scientists.

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And not gonna remember, they’re
not necessarily believe is to be

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pre prepared for life.
It’s actually from their point

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of view, set up for life.
And they say that it’s a

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universe with laws and
mechanisms and processes that

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have been established right from
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And the wonderful thing about
these universal laws is that by

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the by the implication that are
Universal, they apply the same

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here as an staff.
Four and a half, light-years

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away as to the other side of the
universe, the same laws, apply

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equally everywhere.
That’s the wonderful thing about

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the consistency of what God is
baked into the universe, in its

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very recipe of creation.
And that they wonderful ordered

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processes that both support and
sustain life.

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It’s universe that doesn’t only
let life exists but it lets it

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abound and be very diverse.
You know for example in our

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lifetimes there are whole lot of
new species that have actually

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just come into existence in our
lifetime because these laws are

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there.
They good and they work.

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The wonderful things for
example, just about the

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chemistry of carbon.
Why are we carbon-based?

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Life-forms, there’s a whole lot
about the physical chemical and

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biological nature of carbon.
That makes sense that makes us

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as human beings work in the
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And the sum total of all of this
is that without that we wouldn’t

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be here.
We couldn’t exist.

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And most scientists would
actually agree with that

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statement.
In fact, the topic is often

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described as fine-tuned universe
or they use the other fancy at

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word, the anthropic universe and
Tropic, simply meaning life

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supporting some will say, it’s
very strong, the anthropic some

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say, weekly anthropic.
But everybody says, it’s

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anthropic certainly
life-supporting.

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Because the evidence is here.
We are here.

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You can’t say it’s not
life-supporting when we were

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walking around itself
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True it is.
Is a life-supporting universe.

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And the remarkable thing is that
all of these things happened,

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way back at the beginning of
time over here, those laws were

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set up at the beginning of time.
When the universe was formed,

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this is all of space and this is
all of time and we are here in

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our beautiful planet, which is
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And all of the laws were set up
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universe and I’ll show you that
in a moment.

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Most scientists have would agree
that they’re round about 40

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parameters that are required in
space in physics for this

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University exists.
Now, imagine if you had 40 radio

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knots right, and you had to to
tune them and here to tune them

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all.
Exactly.

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And when I mean exactly so
exactly that some of them, if

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you blew on them you would knock
them off that balance, right?

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And yet to get them all at the
right positions as this one

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decreased that when they will go
up you’d have to balance them

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will all 40.
And you’d have to do that in one

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millionth of a millionth of a
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Because that’s the time that it
took in the early part of the

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universe for God to form all
those key parameters.

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Exactly, right?
So life could exist In the first

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tiny sliver of a second before
anything formed God, balanced

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every single Force perfectly.
So what came afterwards would

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support life?
Slight changes in that caused

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utter destruction and death.
Let me show you an example.

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Here’s a very eminent
cosmologist astrophysicists from

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from the UK.
He’s not a Believer at all that.

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He wrote a very interesting book
called The Universe and six

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numbers where he picked six out
of those 14, he wrote a book

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about it.
And we won’t go through those

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what they are.
Six numbers mean, but those six

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numbers are so fine tuned.
That if that are slightly out.

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We wouldn’t exist.
Now let me pick up on one of

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them, it’s called Lambda the
cosmological constant, you know

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that simply means don’t worry
about the details.

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It simply means that the
universe is expanding until the

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early part of the last century
people used to think the

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universe was just static.
It was like a box, nothing

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changed.
Then Fred Hoyles found that the

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Universe was expanding and not
only expanding but rapidly

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expanding and that became known
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So they started to try and
measure this cosmological

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constant.
Now, to give you an idea of how

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precise this has to be, if you
have to take a dime and put the

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numbers 6 upwards on it, And
then you had to put tendai in a

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row.
So now you’ve got 10, dice, all

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the 6 up.
And you had to extend it to 150

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died, or were they number 6 on
the top?

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The chances of that happening
are so infinitesimally small,

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compared with all the
possibilities of that, the die

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being positioned that, that’s
the level of precision of the

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cosmological constant.
And can I just show you what

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would happen if you changed one
of them?

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00:28:19,000 –> 00:28:22,300
Did you notice?
I just changed one died that

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00:28:22,300 –> 00:28:26,200
little one there to the number
four, at the Top, If the

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00:28:26,200 –> 00:28:32,000
cosmological constant Changed by
one flick of a die, There would

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00:28:32,000 –> 00:28:36,500
be no life at all on Earth.
There’d be no Universe with one

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00:28:36,500 –> 00:28:40,100
little change.
That’s our sensitive things are.

446
00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:44,500
In fact, all of these parameters
are so perfectly and finely

447
00:28:44,500 –> 00:28:48,400
balanced that.
The slightest tiniest error

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00:28:49,300 –> 00:28:53,600
would result in there being no
life at all anywhere in the

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universe.
Nothing.

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So what do you think modern
Sciences is modern?

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00:29:02,400 –> 00:29:06,500
Science has responses to this
wonderful Fit for Life Universe

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00:29:07,100 –> 00:29:09,700
teeming with diversity and
Beauty like this.

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00:29:11,000 –> 00:29:15,100
I’m afraid that General response
by most scientists is actually

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00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:18,900
quite unscientific.
Because remember what we’ve said

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00:29:18,900 –> 00:29:22,800
is, we’ve said that the
scripture and data points to

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00:29:22,800 –> 00:29:26,300
there, being a beginning that
was designed by God.

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00:29:27,900 –> 00:29:30,600
How do they accommodate that?
Because many of them don’t want

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00:29:30,600 –> 00:29:35,500
to believe in a god.
So unfortunately what they do is

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they say they were not just one
Universe the universe were in

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00:29:39,500 –> 00:29:45,900
but many that there’s a sea of
little bubbles of new universes

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00:29:45,900 –> 00:29:48,900
popping into existence.
Some of them terminating

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00:29:48,900 –> 00:29:52,800
immediately some just exploding
and we just happened to be in a

463
00:29:52,808 –> 00:29:56,700
lucky one.
Now that’s the nonsense that’s

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00:29:56,700 –> 00:30:01,600
currently going around and you
know you may say well they find

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they probably educated.
People.

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00:30:03,000 –> 00:30:04,400
They know what they talking
about.

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00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:09,100
The problem is this is outside
of space and time and cannot be

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00:30:09,100 –> 00:30:12,200
measured by science its
philosophical.

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00:30:13,200 –> 00:30:17,700
You can’t conduct any instrument
measurement off this ever now,

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00:30:17,700 –> 00:30:21,400
or in the future, it is a
philosophical idea.

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00:30:22,400 –> 00:30:24,100
In fact, all it does is just
kicks.

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00:30:24,100 –> 00:30:28,000
The question just further down
the road because who or what

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00:30:28,000 –> 00:30:32,300
created the Sea of evolving
universes.

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00:30:32,900 –> 00:30:37,000
And from what?
It doesn’t answer the question.

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00:30:37,300 –> 00:30:42,200
It just tries to duck the issue
of an initial cause being God

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00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:47,400
himself.
Fortunately though, there are

477
00:30:47,400 –> 00:30:51,800
many eminent scientists who
actually do believe in God and

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00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:55,600
are prepared to say.
So, here’s one from Cape Town,

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00:30:55,600 –> 00:30:58,600
George Ellis, a wonderful
cosmologists, mathematician,

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00:30:59,000 –> 00:31:01,600
who’s written the book on
cosmology in the world.

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00:31:01,800 –> 00:31:04,100
The book, The choosing all the
universities.

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00:31:04,500 –> 00:31:07,300
He worked with Stephen Hawking,
a remarkable.

483
00:31:07,600 –> 00:31:11,900
And very sensitive humble person
when he was asked about this.

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00:31:11,900 –> 00:31:14,400
And you can, you can look at
them on YouTube and watch his

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00:31:14,400 –> 00:31:19,400
lectures.
He says the following There’s an

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00:31:19,408 –> 00:31:23,200
amazing fine-tuning that occurs
in the laws that make this

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00:31:23,200 –> 00:31:28,600
complexity possible.
Realization of the complexity of

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00:31:28,600 –> 00:31:33,100
what is accomplished makes it
very difficult for not to use

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00:31:33,100 –> 00:31:37,600
the word miraculous because it
is miraculous.

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00:31:37,900 –> 00:31:41,600
It’s miraculous that God did all
of these things to create life

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00:31:42,200 –> 00:31:45,100
and to create life.
So abundantly in this universe

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00:31:47,000 –> 00:31:48,700
So then we try and answer the
question.

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00:31:49,700 –> 00:31:54,500
So can creation and modern
science coexist, But I suppose

494
00:31:54,500 –> 00:31:57,800
the question, depends.
It depends on whether you

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00:31:57,808 –> 00:32:01,500
prepared to accept that.
There was an ultimate cause to

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00:32:01,500 –> 00:32:06,000
all of these things.
What we’ve seen very plainly

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00:32:06,000 –> 00:32:09,800
today is that God spoke in the
universe came into being as

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00:32:09,800 –> 00:32:12,400
Genesis tells us.
And the nice thing is it’s

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00:32:12,400 –> 00:32:16,500
actually borne out by data by
facts by this strongly

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00:32:16,500 –> 00:32:21,700
life-supporting universe, that
science understands But God also

501
00:32:21,700 –> 00:32:24,300
spoke and gave us his
scriptures.

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00:32:24,900 –> 00:32:28,200
The same God is the originator
of the universe and the

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00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:31,300
scriptures.
So the remarkable thing is

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00:32:31,600 –> 00:32:33,700
between them, there is no
conflict.

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00:32:34,600 –> 00:32:39,600
They have the same Source, the
same mind, the same intent, the

506
00:32:39,600 –> 00:32:44,000
universe to support life
scripture to give life and more

507
00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:47,200
abundantly.
And that all of those things are

508
00:32:47,200 –> 00:32:52,700
unified in The God Who made it.
So, The problem is exists

509
00:32:52,700 –> 00:32:57,700
between the bottom levels, we
scientists and Bible students

510
00:32:58,100 –> 00:33:02,000
impose their own human
interpretations on things and

511
00:33:02,200 –> 00:33:04,700
can act in very foolish ways
both of them.

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00:33:05,400 –> 00:33:08,800
And that’s where the conflict
often exists but not between the

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00:33:08,800 –> 00:33:11,800
source material, if you
genuinely honest.

514
00:33:13,000 –> 00:33:17,400
Another way of looking at it.
There’s God’s Wonderful World,

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00:33:17,500 –> 00:33:22,000
which is his General Revelation,
to all of us about what he did,

516
00:33:22,300 –> 00:33:26,300
he created this world of Wonder.
You just wake up on a beautiful

517
00:33:26,300 –> 00:33:28,700
natal morning and you smell
everything.

518
00:33:28,700 –> 00:33:31,600
You see the birds and you hear
the Hardy dollars and you look

519
00:33:31,600 –> 00:33:35,600
at everything and you say, this
is truly a wonderful world and

520
00:33:35,600 –> 00:33:38,500
you can’t help but be awed by
what you see.

521
00:33:39,600 –> 00:33:43,700
That’s God’s natural world, his
General Revelation, but then

522
00:33:43,700 –> 00:33:46,900
these God’s word, which is a
special Revelation.

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00:33:47,600 –> 00:33:50,200
You can look at the world, all
you like, but you don’t learn

524
00:33:50,200 –> 00:33:53,800
more about God.
You need the revelation of the

525
00:33:53,800 –> 00:33:57,800
word that tells you about him
that says, this is the mind.

526
00:33:57,800 –> 00:34:01,800
And the reason why I did these
things, not just the how this is

527
00:34:01,800 –> 00:34:07,600
the why And the interesting
thing is both require reason

528
00:34:07,600 –> 00:34:10,699
logic to understanding.
You can’t be a scientist without

529
00:34:10,699 –> 00:34:13,400
reason and logic neither can you
be a good Bible student?

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00:34:13,600 –> 00:34:17,699
You could ask questions and
you’ve got apply reason logic to

531
00:34:17,699 –> 00:34:24,699
the word of God to An
interesting thing is we start

532
00:34:24,699 –> 00:34:28,199
drawing our thoughts to close
then is that the principles of

533
00:34:28,199 –> 00:34:33,199
the natural, the how should
actually lead us to seek the

534
00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:39,100
spiritual, which is the fine in
other words, the natural world

535
00:34:39,100 –> 00:34:41,300
should actually make us start
thinking.

536
00:34:41,900 –> 00:34:44,000
There’s got to be more to life
than this.

537
00:34:44,900 –> 00:34:48,100
There’s gotta be more to life
than the beautiful Berg or the

538
00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:52,100
dolphin surfing often schlanger.
There’s got to be more To even

539
00:34:52,100 –> 00:34:55,199
how eat as beautiful as all of
that is in perfect.

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00:34:56,400 –> 00:35:00,900
Why does it exist?
And that’s really what all of

541
00:35:00,900 –> 00:35:04,000
this purposefulness of the
universe is designed to do

542
00:35:05,400 –> 00:35:07,200
perhaps another way of looking
at it.

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00:35:07,800 –> 00:35:11,500
If you take the hierarchy of the
Sciences at the bottom, you’ve

544
00:35:11,500 –> 00:35:15,200
got maths and logic which
teaches the laws of physics

545
00:35:15,200 –> 00:35:19,200
which brings out chemistry which
gives rise to the biological

546
00:35:19,200 –> 00:35:22,300
sciences.
And then on the one side that

547
00:35:22,300 –> 00:35:26,400
then expands into the
cosmological Sciences, the ones

548
00:35:26,400 –> 00:35:30,500
relating to the universe.
And on the other side, to the

549
00:35:30,500 –> 00:35:33,600
applied sciences, the
engineering and the social

550
00:35:33,600 –> 00:35:36,700
sciences etcetera.
Both of them are based on these

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00:35:36,700 –> 00:35:40,800
fundamentals.
But all of these are about the,

552
00:35:40,800 –> 00:35:43,300
how none of those talk about
the.

553
00:35:43,300 –> 00:35:50,300
Why even psychology is not the
why You need something, imposed

554
00:35:50,300 –> 00:35:53,900
from the top down to give
purpose, to all of science.

555
00:35:54,500 –> 00:35:57,500
You need Theology.
And you need ethics and both of

556
00:35:57,508 –> 00:36:01,500
those are imposed in top-down
form by God.

557
00:36:02,300 –> 00:36:07,100
You can’t have emergent morals
from a purely physical world.

558
00:36:07,600 –> 00:36:11,700
It has to be imposed top down
for these these things to

559
00:36:11,700 –> 00:36:14,500
actually match with the purpose
of the Thing That Grew From The

560
00:36:14,500 –> 00:36:17,300
Bottom up.
God made the world possible to

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00:36:17,300 –> 00:36:20,700
support life.
Now, here’s the purpose from the

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00:36:20,700 –> 00:36:23,000
top down.
In other words, you could say

563
00:36:23,000 –> 00:36:25,800
those deal with the harm and
those deal with the why.

564
00:36:27,500 –> 00:36:30,600
And to understand things.
Perfectly Heaven and Earth.

565
00:36:31,400 –> 00:36:35,100
You need to understand the heart
and the why And that you have a

566
00:36:35,108 –> 00:36:39,200
perfect understanding of what
God is doing and the reason why.

567
00:36:40,800 –> 00:36:45,000
Now, if you think this is just a
theory, have a look at some of

568
00:36:45,008 –> 00:36:48,600
these wonderful scriptures which
actually see exactly what we

569
00:36:48,600 –> 00:36:52,700
saying.
Paul says in Romans 1, I’m

570
00:36:52,700 –> 00:36:57,100
quoting from the, the Jewish
Bible again, What is known about

571
00:36:57,100 –> 00:37:00,900
God is plain to them.
Since God has made it plain to

572
00:37:00,900 –> 00:37:04,500
them it’s playing for people to
see that.

573
00:37:04,500 –> 00:37:07,600
There’s something special out
there for ever since the

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00:37:07,600 –> 00:37:13,300
creation of the universe.
God’s invisible qualities re his

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00:37:13,300 –> 00:37:16,200
power.
And his divine nature have been

576
00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:21,700
clearly seen how because they
can be understood from what he

577
00:37:21,700 –> 00:37:24,300
has made.
In other words, you know that

578
00:37:24,300 –> 00:37:27,800
there’s a great God when you
look at the it wonderful

579
00:37:27,800 –> 00:37:31,700
Perfection of life that God has
allowed to exist on this

580
00:37:31,700 –> 00:37:34,100
beautiful planet.
They feel.

581
00:37:34,100 –> 00:37:37,400
They’ve got no.
Excuse God, says that people

582
00:37:37,400 –> 00:37:42,100
should just think this came out
of of nowhere and has got no

583
00:37:42,100 –> 00:37:47,500
reason for existence.
You said you without excuse you

584
00:37:47,500 –> 00:37:50,100
should be saying it’s got to be
a higher reason for all of this.

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00:37:50,300 –> 00:37:55,700
There has to be And here’s part
of another clue again from the

586
00:37:55,700 –> 00:37:59,300
Jewish Bible, quoting
Ecclesiastes, 3 verses 11 to 12.

587
00:37:59,900 –> 00:38:02,600
God has made everything suited
to its time.

588
00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:07,600
Also, he is given human beings
and awareness of Eternity.

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00:38:08,000 –> 00:38:11,100
That’s why people are all had.
When they see the mountains or

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00:38:11,100 –> 00:38:13,800
the big vast.
See, there’s this feeling of

591
00:38:13,800 –> 00:38:18,500
Eternity and how small they are.
But God’s given him this

592
00:38:18,500 –> 00:38:23,100
awareness of Eternity in such a
way that they can’t fully

593
00:38:23,100 –> 00:38:27,800
comprehend it from beginning to
end, the things that God does.

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00:38:28,300 –> 00:38:32,300
So this is tantalizing hint.
These more out there human

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00:38:32,300 –> 00:38:35,300
beings.
You’ve seen all this, but let me

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00:38:35,300 –> 00:38:39,400
tell you the real story.
The why you tantalize by the

597
00:38:39,400 –> 00:38:42,300
beauty.
Let me tell you why all this

598
00:38:42,300 –> 00:38:45,900
exists and in so doing the
ultimate perfection.

599
00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:49,000
Ian of Genesis 1, verse 1 comes
full circle.

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00:38:49,300 –> 00:38:53,500
It’s a reuniting of all things
in heaven and in Earth if you

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00:38:53,500 –> 00:38:57,000
and I would step outside just
the how to look at the wire of

602
00:38:57,000 –> 00:39:01,700
God’s creation and the missing
key to all of this is the Lord

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00:39:01,700 –> 00:39:05,500
Jesus Christ himself.
Have a look at this verse again

604
00:39:05,500 –> 00:39:09,300
from the Jewish Bible Ephesians
1 verses 9 to 10.

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00:39:10,800 –> 00:39:13,700
Remember it was poorly
understood by human beings

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00:39:14,100 –> 00:39:16,400
because God has made known to
us.

607
00:39:16,400 –> 00:39:20,400
Now, his secret plan, it was
Kept Secret through all the ages

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00:39:21,400 –> 00:39:25,600
by which the, by his own.
Will he designed beforehand?

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00:39:25,600 –> 00:39:30,300
It was all baked in in
connection with the Messiah and

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00:39:30,308 –> 00:39:33,200
he will put it into effect when
the time is ripe.

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00:39:34,100 –> 00:39:37,000
And what is it?
It’s his plan to place

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00:39:37,000 –> 00:39:42,800
everything in heaven and earth.
Adama sighs.

613
00:39:42,800 –> 00:39:44,400
Hey chip.
Isn’t that beautiful?

614
00:39:45,300 –> 00:39:49,400
All things are going to be
unified in Heaven and Earth the

615
00:39:49,400 –> 00:39:53,900
purposeful Universe in which we
live with the purpose of it

616
00:39:54,600 –> 00:39:58,900
which is Heavenly all a unified
in Christ and God’s going to put

617
00:39:58,900 –> 00:40:01,600
all of them under his rule.
He’s the perfect one.

618
00:40:01,600 –> 00:40:06,300
Who was the son of God, and the
son of man of heaven and of

619
00:40:06,300 –> 00:40:09,800
Earth, he is the perfect key to
unlock all of this.

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00:40:10,200 –> 00:40:12,600
He is the purpose.
Of Genesis 1 verse 1.

621
00:40:15,500 –> 00:40:21,600
I said, cancel on Spaces from
Colossians chapter 1, Jesus is

622
00:40:21,600 –> 00:40:26,500
the image of the invisible, God,
the firstborn over all creation

623
00:40:27,000 –> 00:40:30,400
and by firstborn, it means
preeminent, it doesn’t mean born

624
00:40:30,400 –> 00:40:33,400
first.
It means first born as in

625
00:40:33,400 –> 00:40:35,700
preeminent, and we get to see
that in this verse.

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00:40:36,400 –> 00:40:39,100
He was preeminent over
everything.

627
00:40:39,600 –> 00:40:42,900
He was the purpose.
Why all of this happened for by

628
00:40:42,900 –> 00:40:44,800
him?
All things were created that are

629
00:40:44,800 –> 00:40:48,300
in Heaven and Earth and that are
in the earth, visible and

630
00:40:48,300 –> 00:40:52,100
invisible, whether Thrones or
Minions or principalities or

631
00:40:52,100 –> 00:40:55,200
Powers.
All things were created through

632
00:40:55,200 –> 00:41:00,000
him and for him, in other words,
he’s the father of a new

633
00:41:00,000 –> 00:41:03,100
spiritual creation.
He is the one who’s brought to

634
00:41:03,100 –> 00:41:05,900
being a new creation in him as
you.

635
00:41:05,900 –> 00:41:08,300
And I are his workmanship in
Christ.

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00:41:09,600 –> 00:41:14,700
And he is before, all things and
in him all things consist, he’s

637
00:41:14,700 –> 00:41:18,400
the head of the body, the church
or the Ephesian, who is the

638
00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:21,900
beginning, the firstborn from
the dead that in all things?

639
00:41:21,900 –> 00:41:25,000
He may have the preeminence.
You see wasn’t dummies this

640
00:41:25,000 –> 00:41:28,900
before he he was born.
He’s got preeminence before he

641
00:41:28,900 –> 00:41:33,600
even existed.
For peace, the father that’s in

642
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:37,700
him, all the fullness, should
dwell the completeness and by

643
00:41:37,700 –> 00:41:42,600
him to reconcile all things to
himself by him, whether things

644
00:41:42,600 –> 00:41:48,200
on earth or things in heaven.
Having made peace through the

645
00:41:48,200 –> 00:41:52,700
blood of his cross, the blood of
the cross on the cross.

646
00:41:52,700 –> 00:41:56,200
That was shed for you.
And for me reunite, suspect to

647
00:41:56,200 –> 00:42:01,300
heaven, we were separated by the
foolishness of mankind to be

648
00:42:01,300 –> 00:42:03,800
earth-born and earthy to be
limited.

649
00:42:03,800 –> 00:42:09,000
Just to this beautiful creation
but not to send higher Christ

650
00:42:09,000 –> 00:42:10,800
has come to reunite us with
Heaven.

651
00:42:11,500 –> 00:42:14,200
Not take us to Heaven.
Reunite us with the Heavenly

652
00:42:14,200 –> 00:42:16,800
principles and make us new
creatures in.

653
00:42:17,000 –> 00:42:19,800
Him, it’s all done through the
blood of Christ.

654
00:42:20,900 –> 00:42:23,300
It’s the purpose of over
Universe.

655
00:42:24,000 –> 00:42:27,400
The purpose that God did those
things 13.8, billion years ago.

656
00:42:27,700 –> 00:42:31,700
All the laws of physics were for
this one purpose of binding

657
00:42:31,700 –> 00:42:34,800
things in Heaven and Earth under
the Lord, Jesus Christ.

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And you and I here to be his
workmanship.

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It is profound unbelievably
profound that God could do all

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of this to bring many sons to
glory and that’s why he’s done

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it.
So if God’s word could create

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the heavens and the Earth, the
question you and I could ask if

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ourselves is how much is it,
changing you?

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And I to be part of God’s new
spiritual Creation in Jesus, he

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could just speak a word and the
universe came to be He’s given

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us his word that little book on
our laps that can change us as

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much as the universe was
changed.

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If we just let it That’s got to
be the thing that we put our

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effort into my dear friends,
more than anything else.

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It’s got the same power of
Creation in US is a creation of

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all this beautiful universe.
Moscow station from Revelation,

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right?
At the end of the book from

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Genesis, to Revelation the same
principle applies behold says,

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Jesus, I am coming quickly, my
reward is with me to give

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everyone according to his work.
I am the Alpha and the Omega,

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the beginning, and the end.
The first, and the last Blessed

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are those who do his
Commandments.

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You see rules are important.
The rules created life in this

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universe, but they also apply to
you and me God’s Commandments to

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create new life in us and
Christ.

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That they may have the right to
the Tree of Life.

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The very thing that was
separated from man and Genesis

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is going to be given to us to
participate in life and have it

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more abundantly.
This is a wonderful place in my

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dear friends, while it is still
called today.

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Let us actually make the effort
to follow him and to become a

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new creation in Christ.
Thank you.

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