Class 2 from this series was used in GCT Episode 284.
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This is the 1981 Texas
Christadelphian Bible School.
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Our third class brother, Warren
Phillips, is subject, as Thou
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considered my servant Joe,
subject to today’s class, The
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Speeches of a Life.
Good morning everyone.
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To have a very brief moment of
recapping what we’ve considered
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so far this week so that
everything will be refreshed in
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our minds and fit well together.
We remember we started out by
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learning that Job was a very
rich man and a very just man.
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One who was perfect and upright,
one that feared God and his
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chueth evil, that there was none
like him in all the earth.
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And we found that there was an
enemy of Job.
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It turned out to be an enemy of
God as well, that felt that Job
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was only righteous because God
was paying him to be righteous,
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and that he was paying God back.
But what God had given him and
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therefore this challenge was
laid before the Lord, And the
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Lord permitted Job to be tested.
And first of all we found that
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all of his wealth was removed,
as well as his ten children.
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But even in that Job maintained
his integrity and cursed God not
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with his lips, and said, he said
the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh
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away, blessed be the name of the
Lord.
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And consequently at another
meeting of the Ecclesia, this
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enemy was present, and claimed
that even when God approached
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him and said, Have you
considered my servant Job, that
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there is none like him in all
the earth.
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He claimed that Job was even
more wicked than he thought, and
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claiming that Job was really
only interested in his own
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personal physical well-being.
He didn’t really care too much
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about his wealth, although I’m
sure he would have liked to have
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had it.
But he said that he really
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didn’t care too much about his
children either.
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All he was interested in was in
his own skin, And in fact he
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worded it that way, saying skin
for skin, all will a man give
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for his life.
And so we find that the Lord
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permitted the enemy to put Job
to a further test and let him
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reach forth his hand and touch
him with one stipulation, and
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that was that he’d take not away
his life.
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And so we find that Job was
smitten with boils from the
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crown of his head to the sole of
his foot, and he was left in a
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very miserable condition, a
condition that lasted for quite
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some period of time.
We suggested that it certainly
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was weeks, maybe possibly even
months.
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We find that his wife comes
along and suggests that he
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cursed God and die, feeling that
she would rather see Job dead
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than suffering.
And Job, very gentle, rebukes
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her, recognizing that even
though she’d been a righteous
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woman to that time, that she was
talking as a silly woman, as a
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woman that wasn’t interested in
the things of God, and said unto
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her be not as the silly women.
In other words, you haven’t been
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that way.
Don’t start it now.
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And then we find that his three
friends come along how they sit
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with him for seven days, not
saying anything until finally
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Job curses his day, opening up
the opportunity for his friends
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to speak.
And they also are interested in
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the well-being of Job and bring
out the idea that they feel that
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he’s suffering because of some
particular sin that he’s
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committed.
Believing in what we refer to as
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the doctrine of exact
retribution, That if a person
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has committed a little sin now,
he’ll be punished a little bit
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now, but if he’s committed a big
sin now, he’ll be punished
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tremendously now in proportion
to the sin that he is.
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Committed, and we examined that
Doctor of Retribution.
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We followed the.
Arguments of his three friends.
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Or that Eliphaz felt that he had
received a heavenly vision.
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Therefore could not be convinced
how Bill Dad claimed the wisdom
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of antiquity, that there was a
tradition that they had always
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accepted, and therefore it must
be right, and how that so?
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For being a very crude
individual suggested that
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perhaps Job was suffering for
some unknown sin, And even later
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on a suggestion was made that it
may be a sin of omission and not
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a sin of Commission, or which
Job was suffering.
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And in all of these things, Job
was very effective in answering
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them, totally changing his own
mind in regard to exact
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retribution, realizing that with
his own, with his own case, he
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had not committed any
particularly terrible sin which.
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We’re also aware of because of
the commendation of the Lord at
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the beginning of the book.
And then we find that he pointed
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out that even in life it is
obvious that there are many
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individuals that seem to fare
far better.
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Who are not interested in the
things of God or his plan of
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salvation and don’t try to water
and establish their life.
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In a manner that’s pleasing to
God.
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And yet they seem to get along
far, far better than many
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individuals who are are
interested in the things of God
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who want to live in accordance
with God’s great plan of
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salvation and His law and His
commandments and statutes.
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And even when death comes, some
of these individuals who have
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been far more wicked may die
very suddenly, such as with a
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heart attack.
Where others who have tried to
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make righteousness a way of
life, they find that suffering
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may linger for many weeks or
months before they actually die.
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And so he recognized that exact
retribution wasn’t true.
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However, we noticed that even in
all this, Job wished that he
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could have it out with God.
He felt that because of his
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righteousness, God really wasn’t
treating him quite right.
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He wished that he could have a a
discussion with God and that if
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he could, he’d be able to prove
his point that he was right and
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God was wrong.
And yet God was silent, and he
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charged God with that charge
that he hadn’t spoken when he
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had called unto him.
Undoubtedly he had prayed often
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under this condition and God
hadn’t answered him, and
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consequently he wishes that he
could have a dazement.
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Someone who might be a go
between between him and God, if
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indeed he couldn’t have it out
with God himself.
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Perhaps a go between might be
able to talk with God and he
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felt it would be on his behalf.
Because certainly he thought he
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was right and God was the one
that was wrong, and therefore if
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he could have a Daisman,
forgetting that a daisman worked
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for both.
Parties as a go between.
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He felt that surely he would be
exonerated and the Daisman would
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speak to God on his behalf.
He longs for that day’s been,
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and we’re going to see that
day’s Been show up in just a
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moment.
But we do.
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Find that there’s one thing that
does seem to crop up that we
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didn’t mention yesterday in our
closing moments, and that is the
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Job had not completely abandoned
the idea that eventually all
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things would become equal.
And there are two views in
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regards to Job looking forward
to the resurrection, one of
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which is that Job now is
convinced where perhaps he may
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not have been before, if there
would indeed be a resurrection
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of the dead.
And at that time he would be
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exonerated, and it would be
proven that he was righteous
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after all, and that he had
suffered unjustly.
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Another view, of course, is that
he always recognized the
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resurrection.
Of the dead.
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And realized that even though
God would not make things
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perfectly equal now in this
life, in this mortal life, that
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surely all things would be made
equal at the time of the
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resurrection.
And consequently we have those
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very beautiful words that have
often been quoted in the 19th
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chapter of Job, where we read
starting with the 25th verse.
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For I know that my Redeemer
liveth.
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And that he shall stand at the
latter days upon the earth.
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And though after my skin worms
destroy this body, yet in my
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flesh shall I see God, whom I
shall see for myself, and mine
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eyes shall behold and not
another, though my reigns be
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consumed within me.
And how often it is we’ve turned
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to that beautiful passage and
used it as we look forward to
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the time of the resurrection of
the dead, when all things shall
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be made right and perfect.
And so we.
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Find that Job did desire a days
man.
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We found also that Job’s friends
had been silenced by the things
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that he had to say.
We recognize that in the third
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round of speeches.
The second individual, Bildad,
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came forth with a speech of only
5 verses long, and Job’s third
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friend Zofar didn’t even come
forth at all.
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But instead Job concludes with
two rather lengthy monologues
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expounding the things that he
feels are so.
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And then we left that, and we’re
now about to consider the
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introduction of a very
interesting young man that we’ve
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read about here in the 32nd
chapter of Job.
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And it would seem to us that
this man was always present
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throughout the debate.
Sometimes we might look upon Job
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and his free friends and say,
well, they were the only ones
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that was present.
We might even say, well, maybe.
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His wife was still standing in
the background, but it would
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seem to me that there are other
individuals present as well,
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listening to this debate as it
went on.
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Certainly this young man Eli,
who was present.
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It’s obviously obvious by what
we’ve read here.
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In the 32nd chapter he was
present.
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He heard the debate between Job
and his three friends, and he
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was not very satisfied with his
outcome.
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He was a very polite young man,
however.
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He recognized that he should
listen to his elders before he
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put forth his own opinion, and
consequently in verse four we
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read now Eli, who waited until
Job had spoken because they were
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elder than.
He.
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And in the middle of verse six
we read I am young and ye are
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very old.
Wherefore I was afraid, and does
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not show you my opinion.
I said days should speak, and
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multitude of years should teach
wisdom.
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He was wise enough to recognize
that his.
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Elders had the opportunity to
amass more knowledge than hate
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and more wisdom if that
knowledge had been applied and
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considered properly.
Yet that did not mean that he
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couldn’t speak up after they’d
finished speaking.
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And when he does speak up, he
speaks up in a very polite
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manner.
He’s willing to give the type of
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courtesy necessary to his
elders, but it doesn’t mean that
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he has to remain silent forever.
And he points out in verse 8,
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but there isn’t a spirit of man.
There is a spirit in man.
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And the inspiration of the
Almighty giveth them
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understanding.
Great men are not always wise,
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neither do the ages understand
judgment.
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Therefore I said, hearken to me,
and I also will show you mine
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opinion.
He pointed out in a courteous
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manner that sometimes just
because a person is older
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doesn’t necessarily.
Mean that they know everything.
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Sometimes a younger person has
been permitted by God to grasp
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things that an older person may
not as yet have perceived.
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It isn’t a case that just
because a person is old, they
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know more than a person just
because he’s younger.
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He’s polite in introducing this,
and we do find that he has a
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very good reason for being
displeased with both Job and his
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three friends.
And that reason is put forward
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at the beginning of the chapter
in verse 2.
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Then was the then was kindled
the wrath of Elihu, the son of
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Barekal, the buzzite of the
kindred of Ram.
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And these are the reasons
against Job.
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Was his wrath kindled because he
justified himself rather than
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God?
That’s a problem that Elihu is
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going to answer, and also
against his three friends.
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Was his wrath kindled because
they found no answer and yet had
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condemned Job?
And I think that this perhaps
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may be a trait that we all share
to 1° or another.
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How often it is that we may have
debated with those of other
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faiths, and perhaps have not
fared quite as well as we ought
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to.
In the truth, we certainly ought
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to have a reason for the.
Hope that lieth in us we ought
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to be able to prove all things,
and how often it is that when we
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may be worsened in a discussion
with somebody of another faith.
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We may feel that, well, we’ve
got the truth and therefore they
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must be wrong.
And the only reason we’re worse
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in the discussion is because
we’re not quite as familiar with
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the truth as we ought to and
ought to be in that in itself
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should be a reason for us to
study much more diligently.
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But quite often we find that the
same type of reasoning is
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applied within in our own
meetings when we have a dispute
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within the Ecclesia and we find
that somebody else within the
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meeting may be able to.
To do a little bit.
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Better in a debate with us than
we do ourselves, We go on the
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assumption that, well, you know,
we can’t be wrong, and therefore
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they must be, even though the
arguments have been presented
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that they presented a much
better than the ones we’ve
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presented.
We merely assume that it’s
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because of our own shortcoming,
or perhaps because of their
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stubbornness, that we haven’t
been able to do as well as we
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should.
Instead of sitting back and
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saying, you know, it just may be
that I’ve made the mistake and
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they’ve got a good.
Point And we’re not willing to
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accept it.
And how often this is the case
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with some disputes within our
ecclesias.
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Instead of going right back to
the word of God and saying I
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ought to study it all over
again, I ought to see to it that
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I can prove every single thing
that I hold to, We sit back and
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just assume we’ve been right.
Because that’s what we believed
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all along, and that’s what we
were taught when we were young,
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perhaps by others.
Instead of saying I ought to go
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back to the word of God myself,
and I ought to prove all things
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and hold fast to that which is
true, these three individuals
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found no answer, and yet they
still condemned Job.
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They felt that they certainly
had to be right.
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Why They couldn’t be wrong, and
therefore the only one left that
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could be wrong would be Job, And
it may be that Job was just a
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little bit more clever debating
than they were.
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Or it may also be that Job was
just stubborn and that’s all
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there was to it, and he just
wouldn’t listen to their what
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they thought was good, sound
reasoning, and therefore they
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found no answer and yet
condemned Job.
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We may ourselves be in this
position on all too many
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occasions.
And we find that this young man
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is willing to speak forth.
He’s willing to discuss with Job
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and his three friends.
But as he speaks forth, we find
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that instead of challenging
Job’s three friends, he has very
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little to say to them.
Other than saying look, they
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didn’t answer him.
Instead, we find that the four
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speeches that Eli who makes are
directed primarily against Job
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and his attitude toward God and
his upholding of his own
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righteousness.
And we might say, why is it that
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he didn’t have anything to say
against the obviously erroneous
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arguments that the three friends
had put forth?
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For when we come to the 42nd
chapter, we find that the
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Almighty says to his three
friends, that was not spoken,
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that which is right concerning
me as my servant Jobath.
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Why is it that Eli, who didn’t
speak up and say, look, you
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fellows, you are wrong in these
particular things?
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He doesn’t say a word to them,
but he has a a multitude of
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words to say to Joe, and I think
the reason is that Job has
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already done a very good job in
putting the three friends to
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silence.
In fact, he’s done such a good
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job it’s unnecessary for a lie.
Who to hash over the very same
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things?
Why does he have to go back and
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put them to silence when Job has
already done a very good job at
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it?
But the three friends were the
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ones that found no answer, and
he felt that an answer should be
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given to Job even though.
We find that Job had been
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righteous, mechanically
righteous to begin with.
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There is a problem that crops up
during this time of suffering,
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and that problem is that Job has
justified himself rather than
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God.
Job feels that he deserves
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something better, that God was
being absolutely unjust in the
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way that Job was treated.
He’s charged God with unjustice.
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He’s charged God, essentially,
with doing wrong.
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And this is something that Eli
who cannot stand and Eli who has
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to speak up.
Eli who is going to indeed be
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the Daisman.
That Job had desired someone
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that would be the go between
between him and God.
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And yet we find a very
remarkable thing that we touched
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on yesterday.
A Daisman or a mediator is one
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who is to mediate between 2
individuals.
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And we have here in Elihu a very
beautiful type of Christ.
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We have a type of Christ in Job
as well.
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In Job, we have a type of
Yahweh’s righteous suffering
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servant, an individual who is.
Suffering not for something that
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he’s committed himself, but on
behalf of another individual.
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He’s suffering that this enemy
might be brought to
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righteousness eventually.
In Elihu we find an individual
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who is a type of Christ as the
intercession or the mediator or
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the days men between God and
men.
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And we recognize yesterday how
that before Christ to represent
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men to.
God.
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He had to represent God to man,
and consequently the life that
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Jesus lived was indeed a
manifestation of God.
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Not that Jesus was God himself,
but since God cannot be seen,
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since he has not been seen, nor
can be seen by mortal eyes,
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since he dwells in a light that
no man can approach unto, the
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only way that we can know God is
by his revelation of himself to
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US.
One way, of course, is by what
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he says about himself in his
inspired word and another.
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Way was reflecting His
righteousness, his character,
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His Holiness, and His purpose in
the way in which his Son lived
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his life so much.
So that the Lord Jesus Christ
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could say He that hath seen me
hath seen the Father.
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Because indeed he lived in a
very godly way.
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And consequently we find that
the Lord Jesus Christ represents
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men to God, a God to men.
Excuse me?
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Before he represents men to God
and likewise.
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Eli, who does the very same
thing instead of taking Job’s.
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Case.
And pleading it before.
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God, He takes up God’s case and
he upholds the righteousness of
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his Maker.
And on a number of occasions
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throughout his speeches, he
said, I will yet speak for God.
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I will speak for my maker, and
consequently he represents God
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to men before representing men
to God.
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Now there’s one other thing that
I’d like to mention.
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We are truly privileged.
We have information that Job’s
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wife or Job, or his three
friends or Rely, who did not
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have.
We know that Job was being
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tested for the purpose of
bringing an unrighteous
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individual to a better way of
life, a life of righteousness.
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We find a very interesting thing
in considering this.
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We find that this Satan, this
enemy, is spoken of in the first
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two chapters of Job.
After that we have 40 chapters
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to explain to Job why he’s
suffering.
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As we go through these 40
chapters, we find that.
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Not once again in the book of
Job is Satan mentioned.
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And that’s strange indeed, if
indeed this is a fallen Angel
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devil that’s causing all of this
havoc.
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Doesn’t it seem strange to you
that Job’s wife doesn’t mention
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to Job that that’s the reason
he’s suffering?
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That Job himself doesn’t bring
up such a proposition that
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Eliphast build out a jolfa to
fail to mention it in their
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speeches, which we know are
quite lengthy for that debate,
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rage for 28 chapters?
And now, as we come upon the
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young man Elihu, we’re going to
find that Elihu doesn’t mention
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that idea either.
And then when we get on to the
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most beautiful speeches of all
those of the Almighty, we find
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that the Almighty doesn’t
mention any fallen Angel devil
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either.
In fact, when we come to the
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epilogue.
The last 11 verses of the book
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of Job, we still have a failure
to mention this Satan again, and
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we might say why?
How come?
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Isn’t it strange that we’ll
spend 40 chapters to explain to
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Job why he’s suffering?
And never get around to really
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telling him.
Why it is, after all, if indeed
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it’s because a fallen Angel
devil has caused all of this
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problem tremendously.
Interesting, isn’t it?
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I’d like to string you along for
another two or three days if I
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could.
I’d like to make a statement now
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that when we get to that
epilogue, I’d like to suggest
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what happened to this enemy.
I think there is a suggestion
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there in one verse, and this is
one of the reasons that I
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haven’t put forth a very few
copies of the notes that I have
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for your disposal.
I’d like to hold them back to
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Saturday because I know that
everybody’s going to be flipping
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over to the last page.
So I’d like to hold it back.
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There’s going to be a number of
suggestions we’re going to make
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then.
Amongst which I’m going to
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suggest what I think happened to
this Satan.
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I hope you’d be interested to
listen until then, but let’s
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take a look at the speeches of
Eli, who now we find that he was
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very displeased with Job because
he had justified himself.
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Rather than God, and in the
presentation of his speeches, he
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approaches Job in a rather
polite way when we get over to
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the. 34th chapter verse 36 if
you look.
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In the margin, the way that it’s
worded, is my father let Job be
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tried a very polite way.
It would seem as though what Eli
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who is doing is appealing unto
Job his elder in the very same
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way that he might appeal unto
his own father, although I’m
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sure that Eli, who was not.
The son of Job.
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So we can set that aside.
But he was appealing unto Job as
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the young man might appeal unto
his father, maintaining a proper
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respect and reverence for his
father, but yet still bringing
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up something that he feels might
be helpful to him.
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And so, even though he’s not the
son of Job, actually he does
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say, my father, let Job be
tried.
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In other words, would you be so
good as to look at yourself
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objectively, if that’s possible,
and really listen to what I have
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to say?
Because it’s worthwhile
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listening to.
It’s a polite way in which you
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lie.
Who approaches Job?
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Now we find that he first gives
a little summary of some of
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Job’s charges against God.
Let us go to the 33rd chapter,
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the 10th verse, and there he
says, Behold, he findeth
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occasion against me.
These are the words of Job.
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It’s what?
Eli who is saying?
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That job has charged God.
With says he counted me as his
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enemy.
One of the things that Job had
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done Eli, who did not agree that
he should do this.
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Actually, this first speech
covers the subject that God is
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not arbitrarily hostile, and
neither is he silent.
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Now remember, Job had often
called upon God desiring to have
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it out with him wanting.
To have a debate with him,
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feeling that if and only he
could talk it over with God, Job
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would be able to prove that he
was right and God was wrong, and
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treating him the way in which he
had.
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And yet we find that this claim
has been brought up, that he
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counteth me for his enemy.
And as we go down to the 13th
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verse, he says, Why does not
thou strive against him?
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For he giveth not account of any
of his matters.
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For God speaketh once, yeah,
twice.
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Yet man perceiveth not, And so
here now he is covering that
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other part that Job had claimed
that God was silent.
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That he never really did.
Answer, even though Job had
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called upon him on a number of
occasions.
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And so we find Eli who is going
to answer these two charges.
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He’s going to point out that God
really isn’t Job’s enemy after
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all, and that God doesn’t really
remain silent.
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That perhaps it isn’t the
problem that God has been
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silent.
But perhaps the problem is that
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Job hasn’t been able to listen.
And here he points out to Job
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that God speaks in a number of
ways, even though he doesn’t
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have to.
As in verse 13 we read, He
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giveth not account of this of
his Himself.
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His matters unto man.
He doesn’t have to tell us why
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he does things and I think it
might do well.
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For us to remember that God is
omnipotent, He’s all powerful.
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He’s the creator and sustainer
of the universe.
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He doesn’t have to come to lowly
little man and tell him why he
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does the things that he.
Does, and even though he doesn’t
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have to give an account of
himself to us, who are so
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insignificant yet because of his
goodness and mercy and love and
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kindness to us.
In his desire to uplift us from
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the lowly condition in which we
are, in His desire to help us
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develop a character that will
eventually be acceptable before
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00:25:50,960 –> 00:25:55,120
him, that we might receive
immortality, and eventually God
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00:25:55,120 –> 00:25:59,000
might be All in all that He
eventually may not only
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demonstrate himself and manifest
himself through the Lord Jesus
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00:26:02,960 –> 00:26:08,440
Christ, but through all of the
sons and daughters as well,
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through us.
He does tell us why he does
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things on many occasions,
perhaps not all because in our
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mortal minds we might not be
able to understand all of the
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00:26:18,920 –> 00:26:23,280
reasons why God does what he
does, but he doesn’t remain
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totally silent.
Even though he doesn’t have to
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00:26:25,680 –> 00:26:29,440
give an account of what he does
to us on many occasions, he does
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00:26:29,440 –> 00:26:31,880
tell us why.
And he tells us in many
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00:26:31,880 –> 00:26:36,800
different ways, and we find
three of them spoken of here in
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00:26:36,800 –> 00:26:41,720
the first speech of Elijah.
First of all, he tells us that
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God speaks in a night vision,
verse 15, in a dream, in the
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vision of the night, when deep
sleep falleth upon man in
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slumbering upon his bed.
This is one of the ways that God
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speaks, and we know that as we
go to the Scriptures, very often
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00:27:01,120 –> 00:27:05,160
individuals were spoken to by
God in dreams.
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Now, I don’t think too many of
us have dreams that are
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00:27:08,000 –> 00:27:12,240
significant today.
But we do find that in both Old
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00:27:12,240 –> 00:27:16,280
and New Testament times, God
made use of dreams, a night
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00:27:16,280 –> 00:27:20,280
vision, to speak to people.
Surely we know that Joseph had
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dreams.
We also recognize the dream of
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the Butler and the Baker that
Joseph interpreted.
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And as we move.
Forward through the Old
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Testament we find that on a
number of occasions this method
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is employed.
Even a king that worship false
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gods received a dream of
significance.
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We remember Nebuchadnezzar’s
dream that Daniel interpreted.
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And then when we move forward in
the New Testament, we find that
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this method is still employed by
God.
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We remember Joseph, the husband
of Mary, the foster father of
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Jesus.
How that he was.
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One of a dream to go down into
Egypt and take the child with
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him.
Because Herod sought the child’s
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life, we find that God has made
use of this particular method,
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and Job is reminded of it.
That God does speak in dreams to
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individuals, but that’s not
always the way that he speaks.
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Verse 16 Then he openeth his
ears of men and sealeth their
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00:28:18,040 –> 00:28:21,000
instruction.
There is another way that God.
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Speaks.
Sometimes God speaks by an open
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00:28:24,680 –> 00:28:27,240
vision.
There have been many occasions
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00:28:27,240 –> 00:28:31,000
where God has sent his Angel to
actually speak with an
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individual, not when they’re
asleep, but when they’re wide
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00:28:34,000 –> 00:28:37,120
awake.
We also find that God has
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00:28:37,120 –> 00:28:39,160
inspired the word of God to be
written.
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00:28:40,160 –> 00:28:44,800
And here we have before us one
of the ways in which God speaks
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00:28:44,800 –> 00:28:46,560
to us.
It’s really the primary way that
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00:28:46,560 –> 00:28:49,160
God speaks to us today.
Oh, we know that there.
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Are others, And I know some
might take exception to this, I
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00:28:51,920 –> 00:28:55,000
hope not, but since we’ve been
talking a little bit about it
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00:28:55,000 –> 00:28:56,720
this week and Brother Peter’s
classes.
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We realize that wisdom crieth
without She entered her voice in
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the streets, and we can look
about us and see by the things
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00:29:03,560 –> 00:29:07,040
all around about us, the
manifestation of God Himself.
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00:29:07,640 –> 00:29:11,040
We have an opportunity, by
seeing in events about us, that
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00:29:11,040 –> 00:29:14,760
God still is reminding us that
he is the creator and sustainer
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00:29:14,760 –> 00:29:17,200
of all things.
And many of those events around
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00:29:17,200 –> 00:29:20,960
about us reflect the glory and
wisdom of God that we shouldn’t
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00:29:20,960 –> 00:29:25,200
certainly be learning from.
But here we find that God has
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00:29:25,200 –> 00:29:28,240
spoken.
Both by dreams and by open
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00:29:28,240 –> 00:29:30,800
vision.
And we have before us today the
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00:29:30,800 –> 00:29:34,240
word of God.
And if we say that God hasn’t
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00:29:34,240 –> 00:29:37,480
spoken to us, the problem isn’t
that God hasn’t spoken.
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00:29:38,160 –> 00:29:40,360
The problem is that we haven’t
bothered to listen.
501
00:29:41,120 –> 00:29:44,200
If we have our Bibles before us
and fail to read and study them
502
00:29:44,200 –> 00:29:47,920
in the way that we ought to, we
can’t accuse God of being silent
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00:29:47,920 –> 00:29:50,840
when we pray.
The problem is that we haven’t
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00:29:50,840 –> 00:29:53,120
listened to him.
He’s already spoken.
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00:29:54,040 –> 00:29:57,320
And since he’s spoken, and we
may have ignored his word, can
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00:29:57,320 –> 00:29:59,280
we turn around and say, well,
you know, the only way that
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00:29:59,280 –> 00:30:01,640
we’re going to accept God
speaking to us is if he gives
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00:30:01,640 –> 00:30:06,240
sends us an angelic visitation.
What a very awkward thing that
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00:30:06,240 –> 00:30:09,360
would be.
And I can’t help but say now
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00:30:09,360 –> 00:30:12,760
that that’s exactly what the
Pentecostal views seem to border
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00:30:12,760 –> 00:30:15,760
on quite often.
They’ve turned their back on
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00:30:15,760 –> 00:30:19,000
much of the things that God has
had to say and claim that what
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00:30:19,000 –> 00:30:22,600
they really have is a personal
angelic visitation, that God is
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00:30:22,600 –> 00:30:24,680
speaking to their heart and they
don’t really need the Bible.
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00:30:25,280 –> 00:30:28,280
We’ve got the Bible before us.
It is the word of God.
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00:30:28,280 –> 00:30:30,560
God has spoken.
And the problem isn’t
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00:30:30,560 –> 00:30:32,280
necessarily that God hasn’t
spoken.
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00:30:32,760 –> 00:30:35,280
But the problem may be that all
of the little jobs, the little
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00:30:35,280 –> 00:30:38,520
jobs here in this room may not
have listened quite as
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00:30:38,520 –> 00:30:41,720
attentively as we ought to to
that still small voice that’s
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00:30:41,720 –> 00:30:43,440
recorded in the pages of
Scripture.
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00:30:44,400 –> 00:30:47,720
But as we move through this
first speech of Elihu, we find
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00:30:47,720 –> 00:30:52,040
that Elihu brings up another way
in which God speaks.
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And when God speaks this way,
all of the little jobs in this
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00:30:56,160 –> 00:30:59,520
room that may have ignored that
still small voice are going to
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00:30:59,520 –> 00:31:03,120
set up and take notice.
He speaks in such a way that we
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00:31:03,120 –> 00:31:06,880
can’t fail to listen and we find
that introduced to us in the
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19th.
Verse He is chastened also with
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pain upon his bed and the
multitude of his bones strong
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00:31:15,560 –> 00:31:17,920
pain.
And so here we find that there
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00:31:17,920 –> 00:31:22,480
are times when if an individual
has not listened to the night
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00:31:22,480 –> 00:31:26,200
vision or to the open vision,
read the word of.
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00:31:26,200 –> 00:31:29,600
Scripture that we have before
us, that God may speak a little
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00:31:29,600 –> 00:31:33,400
bit louder.
He may speak by sending pain and
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00:31:33,400 –> 00:31:36,920
trial and tribulation upon us.
And this is something that every
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00:31:36,920 –> 00:31:39,680
single one of us face in our
life, to greater or lesser
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00:31:39,680 –> 00:31:43,680
degree at one time or another
Throughout our lives we find
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00:31:43,680 –> 00:31:46,920
that God sometimes can speak to
us by pain.
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00:31:47,760 –> 00:31:51,480
You know, we may instruct our
own children and we may tell our
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00:31:51,480 –> 00:31:56,880
children not to touch the.
Stove, because it’s hot and they
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00:31:56,880 –> 00:31:59,000
may know that we’ve given them
that instruction.
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00:31:59,720 –> 00:32:02,200
And when we turn our back and go
off in the other room, they want
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00:32:02,200 –> 00:32:04,320
to find out for themselves and
they reach forth their finger
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00:32:04,320 –> 00:32:06,760
and they put it on the stove and
wow do they listen then?
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00:32:07,400 –> 00:32:10,240
Because their finger is burned,
and even though they might not
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00:32:10,240 –> 00:32:13,160
have listened to what we’ve had
to say, when they put forth
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00:32:13,160 –> 00:32:16,280
their hand and they burn it on
that stove, boy, that message
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00:32:16,280 –> 00:32:19,880
gets across and it hurt.
And likewise, there are times
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00:32:19,880 –> 00:32:23,040
when God may speak to us.
We may have been ignored some of
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00:32:23,040 –> 00:32:26,520
the things that He said in His
word, but when He speaks to us
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00:32:26,520 –> 00:32:31,600
on beds of pain, boy do we
recognize our mortality then do
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00:32:31,600 –> 00:32:34,760
we recognize that we can’t
really get along by ourself,
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00:32:34,880 –> 00:32:39,200
that we really have need of God?
We then set up and take notice.
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00:32:39,800 –> 00:32:44,040
There are times when God speaks
on beds of pain, and we come now
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00:32:44,040 –> 00:32:46,040
to the second reason for
suffering.
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00:32:46,880 –> 00:32:50,600
We already have brought up one,
and that was the only reason
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00:32:50,600 –> 00:32:52,480
that Job’s three friends could
see.
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00:32:52,920 –> 00:32:57,600
They recognized that suffering
had come because of sin.
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00:32:59,080 –> 00:33:02,120
They had carried it to an
extreme which was not totally
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00:33:02,120 –> 00:33:04,120
correct.
In feeling that.
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00:33:04,120 –> 00:33:06,440
All suffering was the result of
sin.
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It is indirectly because of sin.
We find that suffering has come
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00:33:11,960 –> 00:33:16,040
upon humanity, but it doesn’t
necessarily mean that because a
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00:33:16,040 –> 00:33:18,400
person has committed a little
sin, they’re going to suffer a
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00:33:18,400 –> 00:33:20,480
little, or because they’ve
committed a big sin, they’re
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00:33:20,480 –> 00:33:23,880
going to suffer a lot.
But we do find that there are
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00:33:23,880 –> 00:33:29,280
times when God may make use of
pain to bring an individual to
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00:33:29,280 –> 00:33:35,560
him with the idea that it is far
better to be corrected now and
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00:33:35,560 –> 00:33:39,200
have a top opportunity to live
in the Kingdom of God, then to
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00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:43,440
be ignored now and to go on in
our unrighteous ways and forfeit
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00:33:43,440 –> 00:33:45,760
that opportunity to live forever
in the Kingdom.
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00:33:46,200 –> 00:33:48,800
And consequently, we find that
I’m not going to read every
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00:33:48,800 –> 00:33:50,600
verse of this chapter.
Time doesn’t permit.
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We find that this is the reason,
the lie who is bringing out it
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00:33:55,040 –> 00:33:59,480
is to save an individual from
the pit, that pit being the pit
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00:33:59,480 –> 00:34:03,560
of death, the grave.
It is far better that God speak
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00:34:03,560 –> 00:34:06,960
to an individual today on beds
of pain, that they might be
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00:34:06,960 –> 00:34:10,159
brought back to it.
Then just ignore the individual
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00:34:10,320 –> 00:34:13,480
and let them go in their ungodly
way and be rejected that the
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00:34:13,480 –> 00:34:15,800
judgment seat and remain in that
pit forever.
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What a sad thing that would be.
And you notice how often where
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00:34:19,800 –> 00:34:23,080
our attention is brought to that
in the 24th verse.
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00:34:23,080 –> 00:34:27,239
It ends by Speaking of that.
Then he is gracious unto him,
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00:34:27,239 –> 00:34:30,360
and saith deliver him from going
down to the pit.
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00:34:31,239 –> 00:34:36,239
I have found a ransom.
God’s purpose is to save us from
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00:34:36,239 –> 00:34:39,440
eternal death.
Again we find the very same
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00:34:39,440 –> 00:34:42,000
thought is brought out on the
28th chapter.
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00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:46,159
He will deliver his soul from
going into the pit, and his life
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00:34:46,159 –> 00:34:50,120
shall see light.
And again in the 30th chapter to
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00:34:50,120 –> 00:34:55,880
bring back his soul from the
pit, to be enlightened with the
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00:34:55,880 –> 00:34:57,600
light of the living.
This.
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00:34:57,600 –> 00:35:00,800
Is the purpose.
There is a time when God may
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00:35:00,800 –> 00:35:05,320
speak to us in a very formidable
way, by permitting us to have
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00:35:05,320 –> 00:35:08,800
trials and tribulations in this
life, by permitting us even to
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00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:15,080
lie on beds of pain, to correct
us, to bring us to Him so that
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00:35:15,080 –> 00:35:18,560
we might eventually be saved
from eternal death and be
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00:35:18,560 –> 00:35:20,240
delivered even unto eternal
life.
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00:35:20,400 –> 00:35:23,080
That’s the purpose.
You know, I’d I’d like to
599
00:35:23,080 –> 00:35:27,240
illustrate this a little bit.
Hasn’t there been times, perhaps
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00:35:27,240 –> 00:35:30,600
in our own life, certainly in
the lives of some of our loved
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00:35:30,600 –> 00:35:35,920
ones, when they may have had
some physical problem and may
602
00:35:35,920 –> 00:35:40,240
realize that in order to correct
this physical problem, more pain
603
00:35:40,240 –> 00:35:42,400
must be introduced in order to
correct it?
604
00:35:42,880 –> 00:35:46,000
Perhaps they may have a growth
and realize that.
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00:35:46,000 –> 00:35:50,120
That has to be actually cut out
of their flesh, lest it
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00:35:50,120 –> 00:35:53,600
eventually terminate their life,
and therefore they’re willing to
607
00:35:53,600 –> 00:35:56,120
go to the hospital.
They’re willing to prevent
608
00:35:56,120 –> 00:35:58,840
someone to actually cut into
their flesh and to remove this
609
00:35:58,840 –> 00:36:03,040
problem knowing that it’s going
to hurt, knowing that there’s
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00:36:03,040 –> 00:36:06,440
going to be a a period of
convalescence that might be much
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00:36:06,440 –> 00:36:09,120
more painful that the than the
pain that they’ve been doing up
612
00:36:09,120 –> 00:36:11,720
to that particular time.
But they’re willing to do it
613
00:36:12,120 –> 00:36:14,920
because they realize that the
end result is worth it.
614
00:36:15,400 –> 00:36:17,680
They realize that it will save
their life.
615
00:36:18,240 –> 00:36:20,560
That is, of course, their mortal
life, that they might live out a
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00:36:20,560 –> 00:36:23,600
normal mortal life.
We’re willing to do this, aren’t
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00:36:23,600 –> 00:36:26,560
we?
We know also that a woman is
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00:36:26,560 –> 00:36:30,160
perfectly willing to bear a
child and to go through the
619
00:36:30,160 –> 00:36:33,000
labor that is going to take
place in order to bring that
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00:36:33,000 –> 00:36:37,600
child into the world for the
purpose of helping someone else,
621
00:36:37,600 –> 00:36:41,280
of giving someone else life.
Even though she knows it’s going
622
00:36:41,280 –> 00:36:43,760
to be uncomfortable, she’s
willing to go.
623
00:36:43,760 –> 00:36:47,560
Through that pain in order to
bring forth a child that it
624
00:36:47,560 –> 00:36:51,040
might live because of the joy
she’ll have with that child
625
00:36:51,480 –> 00:36:54,560
later on.
There are times in our lives
626
00:36:54,720 –> 00:36:58,080
when we are willing to endure
pain because we know we’re going
627
00:36:58,080 –> 00:37:01,800
to be better off for it.
And likewise, we find that there
628
00:37:01,800 –> 00:37:04,440
are times when God will chasten
us.
629
00:37:05,200 –> 00:37:07,840
He doesn’t just speak to us in
His word of truth and say, OK,
630
00:37:07,840 –> 00:37:11,000
you’ve got the Bible, you’re on
your own.
631
00:37:11,000 –> 00:37:14,400
From here on we find that there
are times when God will bring
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00:37:14,400 –> 00:37:18,000
difficulties upon us, and the
problem is how we’re going to
633
00:37:18,000 –> 00:37:19,440
react to it.
We’re going to say a little bit
634
00:37:19,440 –> 00:37:22,440
more about that when we get into
the 4th speech of Eli Who,
635
00:37:22,640 –> 00:37:26,640
because Eli who seems to bracket
his talks 1st and the last.
636
00:37:26,640 –> 00:37:30,760
Speech with this idea of pain.
Bringing a person to God.
637
00:37:31,600 –> 00:37:34,840
So this is a purpose of his
first speech, to show Job that
638
00:37:34,840 –> 00:37:38,080
there’s another reason for pain.
It can be to correct an
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00:37:38,080 –> 00:37:40,720
individual.
It can be to build a character
640
00:37:40,880 –> 00:37:42,680
that’ll be pleasing to God, so
that.
641
00:37:42,680 –> 00:37:45,000
Eventually they’ll be saved from
eternal death.
642
00:37:45,920 –> 00:37:47,720
That’s the purpose of his first
speech.
643
00:37:47,880 –> 00:37:50,960
He isn’t really silent.
There are times when he speaks
644
00:37:50,960 –> 00:37:54,800
to them by beds of pain.
And then we find that Eli, who
645
00:37:54,800 –> 00:37:59,320
gets to his second speech in the
34th chapter, and in this 34th
646
00:37:59,320 –> 00:38:03,920
chapter he brings up two of the
unfortunate charges that God has
647
00:38:03,920 –> 00:38:06,440
made.
That Job is made against God
648
00:38:06,600 –> 00:38:10,200
because of the stress under
which he is is bearing up.
649
00:38:10,200 –> 00:38:13,760
Here we find that.
He mentions the two of them
650
00:38:13,760 –> 00:38:16,520
first and the fifth verse, and
then in the ninth verse, and in
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this 34th chapter.
In this second speech he answers
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the charge of the fifth verse,
and in the third speech he
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answers the charge of the ninth
verse.
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First of all, that fifth verse
says, I am righteous and God
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hath taken away my judgment.
In other words, what Job had
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actually said is that he had
lived a righteous life.
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And of course we know that he
had mechanically.
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Job had been righteous.
The Lord had said that in the
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1st and 2nd chapter.
And yet we find that Job felt
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that God hadn’t quite treated
him right.
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Job felt that because of his
personal righteousness, God
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should have treated him a little
better.
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God should never have brought
him to the condition that he is
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here where that he’s suffering
tremendously for no apparent
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reason.
In fact, even the Lord said unto
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the enemy, Thou moveth me to
destroy him without a cause.
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And so here Job, not realizing
that his suffering might be for
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the benefit of someone else,
says that God has taken away his
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judgment.
God hasn’t treated him justly.
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In other words, God has done
wrong, and that’s certainly not
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a very complimentary thing for
us to say about our creator and
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sustainer.
That was an unfortunate charge
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that Job had made.
He made another charge in the
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ninth verse.
It profiteth a man nothing, that
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he should delight himself with
God.
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In other words, what he’s saying
is there’s no prophet whatsoever
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whether a man should delight
himself with God and try to live
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in accordance with his laws and
its statues.
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It doesn’t really matter whether
we’re good people or bad.
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People, there’s no prophet
either way.
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And we find that Eli who is
going to answer that in the next
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speech.
But here in this speech, we find
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that Eli, who brings up a very,
very interesting answer in
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regard to God.
Taking away Job’s judgment,
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instead, he points out verse 10.
Therefore hearken unto me, ye
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men of understanding.
Far be it from God that he
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should do.
Wickedness or from the Almighty
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that he should commit iniquity.
Job had charged that since he
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lived a good life, God should
have treated him better, and God
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had taken away his judgment.
God wasn’t doing right.
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And here we find that Eli, who
says far be it from God that he
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should do wickedness, or from
the Almighty that he should
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commit iniquity.
And then he brings up a very
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interesting argument.
Again, we don’t have time to go
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through the entire chapter.
But the argument seems to go on
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this wise.
He points out that God has
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demonstrated in his creating and
sustaining of this planet and of
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man upon it, that he is a good
and beneficent and just.
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God.
He didn’t have to create us.
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He didn’t have to give us the
life that He gave us.
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And even if He did create us and
sustain us, he didn’t have to
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give us the many blessings that
we enjoy.
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He didn’t have to treat us in
the good and just way in which
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He does.
Why?
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He could have created us, just
to make us suffer if he wanted
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to.
But instead, because of the
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goodness, because of the way in
which God has ordered and
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established everything and
showed himself to be a good and
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beneficent ruler, He
demonstrates that he is a good
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and gracious God, that he’s not
a God of iniquity, that he’s a
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God of goodness, the very
creation that we see.
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Around About Us brings forth
this fact very, very forcefully.
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And then he carries his argument
a little bit further, and he
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says, now, look, you would
expect that the rulers of the
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world around about us.
That men would rule justly.
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How much more would we expect
that the Creator and Sustainer
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of all things, the one who has
not only created this planet,
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but the entire universe, the one
who has given life not only to
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man but all the living creatures
around us, would conduct?
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Himself in a just and righteous
way.
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If we look upon world.
Rulers.
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And would expect.
Even though we all don’t always
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find it the case, if we look
upon world rulers and would
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expect some type of justice in
the governments of the world,
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how much more would we expect
the most righteous of all to
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conduct himself in a manner
which is just?
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How much more would we expect
the Creator and sustainer of all
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things to conduct himself
properly?
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And so he uses this argument to
demonstrate that God indeed is a
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good and righteous and just God,
and that he should never be
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accused of the folly that Job
has accused him of.
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And then in his third speech
will not be able to get on to
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his fourth this morning.
He goes on to take up that other
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charge that God, that Job has
made in the ninth verse.
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It profiteth a man nothing, that
he should delight himself with
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God.
And he brings up a rather
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00:43:13,200 –> 00:43:17,000
interesting and unique argument,
A very unique argument, his
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third speech being contained in
the 35th chapter of Job.
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And there we find that he points
out that nobody can give God
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anything, one way or another.
If a man is righteous, he can’t
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give anything to God by his
righteousness.
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Or if a man is wicked, he can’t
take away anything from God by
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his wickedness.
We know that God doesn’t change,
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that God always was and always
will be.
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There is nothing that we can do
to affect God one way or
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another.
And by saying that, I don’t mean
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that we don’t displease God.
I don’t mean that he God isn’t
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sad when we don’t live
righteously.
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Neither do I mean that we don’t
please God when we live
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properly.
Why?
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God himself said in regard to
the Lord Jesus Christ, This is
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my beloved Son in whom I am well
pleased.
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And so we know that God does
have an emotion, and God can
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feel pleased or displeased in
the way in which we live.
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But we can’t take anything away
from God by our wickedness.
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Neither can we actually give
anything to God.
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We find that the Apostle tells
us that even after we’ve
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rendered every possible service
we can to God, we’re still
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unprofitable servants, and so
there’s nothing we can give.
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To God by the way in which we
live.
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There’s nothing we can take away
from God by the way in which we
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live, and therefore our
righteousness or our
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00:44:45,360 –> 00:44:49,040
unrighteousness must have to do
only with man and not to God.
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If we’re righteous, that
righteousness is going to
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benefit ourselves.
Since we’re not giving God
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anything, that righteousness
must be a benefit to us.
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And since we can’t take anything
away from God, our iniquity must
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only come back upon our own head
and be something that we remove
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from ourselves.
What a very interesting
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00:45:08,640 –> 00:45:10,320
argument.
It’s not an argument that I
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would ever thought of.
Unless it was contained here in
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this beautiful 35th chapter of
Job.
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So here we find that Eli, who
points out to Job that a
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person’s wickedness can’t take
anything from God.
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Neither can their righteousness
give anything to God.
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Therefore the Prophet must be
for the individual himself.
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00:45:30,240 –> 00:45:32,320
And yet, Job still has a
problem.
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Here he is having been a
righteous man, and yet he’s
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suffering tremendously, and it
doesn’t seem to him as though
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there’s any profit whatsoever.
Because of his righteousness, he
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still has a little bit more to
learn.
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Our time is gone this morning,
but tomorrow we’re going to come
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back, give a very brief review
of these first three speeches of
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Elihu, and go on into the 4th
speech where Elihu takes up some
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00:45:55,800 –> 00:45:59,360
fascinating things that are
going to help us to understand
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the chastisement.
That we can receive in our own
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life from our Heavenly Father.
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