Colin Badger – The Continuity of Babylon – Class 5 – Revelation 12-17 (Part 2)

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And now we’ll be pleased to call
call upon our brother Colin

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Badger, who will give us the his
fifth class and the title of the

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5th class is Observations on
Revelations Chapter 12 and 17,

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Part 2.
Mother Badger.

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Morning brothers and sisters and
young people.

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A little recap from yesterday
before, we were trying to assess

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the meaning of the symbols and
the events in Revelation Chapter

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12.
Yesterday, we first considered

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Revelation Chapter 11.
We feel that it’s useful to take

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a look at that chapter prior to
making a careful assessment of

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those events in Revelation 12.
We believe that yesterday in

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Revelation 12, excuse me,
Revelation 11, we saw

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indications of a concept that we
met in our earlier studies in

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Daniel that we also met in
Second Thessalonians Chapter 2.

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The concept of the false being
an imitation of the true.

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We believe that there are hints
of that in those early details

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of Revelation Chapter 11.
Then we went to the other side

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of Revelation 12.
In Revelation Chapter 13, we met

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two beasts, the sea beast and
the Earth beast.

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With both of these, we found
that there were terms used that

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in scripture have strong
association with apostasy.

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The sea beast, for example, is
introduced to us with a banner

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as it were.
Over top of that beast the term

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blasphemy.
And we noted yesterday that the

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term blasphemy seems to be used
in a very specific sense in the

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Book of Revelation.
Except for Revelation chapter 2

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and verse 9, every reference to
blasphemy in the Book of

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Revelation is in relation to the
beast system.

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And most significantly, that one
exception in Revelation 2 and

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verse 9 refers to blasphemy in
conjunction with those who claim

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to be Jews but are not Jews.
They are people who make a

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pretense of being Israel, but
they are not Israel.

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They don’t belong to the
Ecclesia, they belong to the

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synagogue of Satan.
Then we looked at the Earth

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Beast, and perhaps that’s where
we can see the.

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Truth of this.
Concept most clearly brought out

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where following on from the
dragon scene of Revelation 12,

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we noticed that this dragon has
continuity as it manifests

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itself not only through the sea
beast as John tells us in the

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opening of Revelation 13, where
the dragon gives the sea beast

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its power.
When we come to the earth beast

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in the second part of Revelation
13, John first views a creature

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that, to all intents and
purposes must have reminded him

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of the Lord Jesus Christ.
To start with.

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For earlier in Revelation, the
Master has been pictured

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symbolically as the Lamb.
So he sees a lamb.

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But John tells us it wasn’t
until this beast opened his

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mouth that he spake as a dragon.
Thus the dragon of Revelation

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chapter 12 has not disappeared.
He is getting power to the sea

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beast in its face.
He is furthermore, continuing to

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give.
Power and force.

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To the Earth beast, the dragon
has not gone.

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His appearance has changed.
His obviousness has become more

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and more difficult to identify.
He is covert rather than being

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apparently a dragon.
Upon first picturing concept of

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the false of the truth, we
notice how the Lord Jesus.

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Christ, of course.
Used a similar figure to that of

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Revelation 13 with the Earth
based when he talked about

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apostasy being pictured as
wolves in sheep’s clothing.

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The Apostle Paul, when he spoke
to the Ephesian elders in the

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Acts, warned them that after his
departure grievous wolves would

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enter in among the flock.
Then there are references in

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conjunction with the dragon
after chapter 12, which show

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that its later development does
result in apostasy associations

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that prior to chapter 12 there.
Are also.

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Hints in Revelation 11 of this
concept of the false imitating

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the truth.
That whole concept surrounds

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Revelation 12 and we believe
must be borne in mind before we

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can be sure we’ve got the right
interpretation of the details.

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In Revelation 12, it issues a
caution that though there may be

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certain things going on in
Revelation 12 that seem to be

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reflections of the truth, there
might also be there too, a

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deception.
Similar to what we see the

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dragon going through in its
later phases, such as with the

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Earth Beast, there may be
something going on in Revelation

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12 that looks very much.
Like the true but.

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It may be an imitation of the
false.

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We have to look cautiously,
therefore, at those details, and

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we have good good warrant to do
so, knowing how the dragon goes

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on in 13 to take on this guise.
Furthermore, brothers and

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sisters, we see from our studies
earlier yesterday that the man

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of sin must be considered in
this context too, for the

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details used to describe the man
of sin in Second Thessalonians

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Chapter 2.
Have word links and idea links

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with the beast and Daniel and
the beasts in Revelation.

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For if you recall in your notes,
we have a chart in that booklet

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where we list for you, and we
went through this yesterday,

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close to 15 descriptions of the
man of sin, which are also.

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Appropriated to the beast.
System once we get into

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Revelation, the same Greek.
Words.

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The same concepts associated
with the man of sin and the

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beast system.
Emphasis, especially being

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placed on the mouth that speaks
great things in Daniel chapter

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seven, with the little horn, the
speeches, and the pride and

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arrogance that come forth,
obviously from the man of sin

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who thinks he’s God sitting in
the temple of God.

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And then in Revelation chapter
13, the beast that emerges as a

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conglomerate of the various
beasts in Daniel 7, Revelation

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shows that it has a body that’s
a leopard.

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Parts that are drawn from the
other beasts, as we said in

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Daniel 7.
But it’s mouth is drawn

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attention to.
It has the mouth of a lion, and

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of the various beasts in
Revelation 7 the lion is

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identifiable with Babylon,
equivalent to the gold part of

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the image, to the stump and
Daniel 4 around which the iron

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and brass are encased.
The mouth was the mouth of a

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lion, like that of Babylon.
It was a babylonish mouth in

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that sense, then.
Furthermore, the earth beast is

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described with attention to its
mouth.

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It’s from its mouth that John
determines that it is still the

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dragon inside, and its mouth is
described as speaking things

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against the Most High.
Blasphemy is associated with

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both these beasts.
Therefore, we have good warrant

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as we look at Chapter 12 to be
cautious in determining whether

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this is the true being portrayed
or whether it’s an extremely

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good copy of the truth we
noticed.

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If we now go to Chapter 12 again
by way of review, details within

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this chapter that should alert
us to the possibility that the

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false is imitating the true.
As in chapter 13, where there

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was emphasis on the deception of
the Dragons working through the

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Sea Beast Manifestation and
through the Earth Beast

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Manifestation, there is Dragon
Assault.

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There is deception associated
with the dragon here in chapter

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12, verse 9.
The influence is deceiving.

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Furthermore, in chapter 12 there
are events here which on the

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surface truly appear to be very
grand and wonderful events of

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the truth.
For example, when the dragon is

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thrust out and Michael is
elevated, verse 10 we read, I

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heard a loud voice saying, In
heaven now has come salvation

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and strengthen the Kingdom of
our God and the power of his

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Christ.
For the accuser of our brethren

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is cast down which accused them
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It seems that this is an
acclamation of the beginning of

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the Kingdom of God.
Salvation is proclaimed.

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The Kingdom of God is believed
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the stress is immediate.
Now has come salvation.

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However, however, as we go
further beyond that acclamation,

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do we see the signs of the
Kingdom of God being set up?

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In fact, we don’t, For we read
in verse 12 immediately after

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these events, simultaneous to
the acclamation now has come the

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Kingdom of our God.
Instead we find woe to the

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inhabitants of the earth and of
the sea, for the devil has come

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down unto you.
The devil is now released.

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Furthermore, this devilish
dragon pursues the woman as we

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read in verse 13 and 14, and he
drives her into the wilderness.

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More than that, in verse 17 the
dragon begins a campaign of

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persecution and he makes war
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Is this what we would expect to
be the events after the

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acclamation that now has come?
The Kingdom of God now has come

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salvation.
Are these the events that we

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would expect to be ushering in
the Millennium?

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Hardly.
And then we discovered that the

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Dragon’s life history continues.
As we’ve already noted, he

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continues to give the motive
power behind the Sea Beast in

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Revelation 13.
He also is the force behind our

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earth beast here on the screen
in verse 11.

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And as we pursue the rest of the
Book of Revelation, we

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discovered that the dragon is
still present as far as

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Revelation 20 and verse two.
These are hardly the events that

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we would expect to be attending,
the ushering in of the Kingdom

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of God, not prior to the Kingdom
of God, but in fact after the

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Kingdom of God.
After Michael, whoever he is has

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won an apparent victory.
Whatever that is the false is it

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imitating the truth.
Michael is exalted, we notice in

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Revelation 12 and the Saints are
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If Michael represents the Lord
Jesus Christ is somewhat urge.

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It’s peculiar that upon the
elevation of this Michael to a

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throne of victory, at the time
when sin and the devil is

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finally destroyed or is at least
subdued totally, the Saints,

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instead of being elevated and
relieved of their problems, are

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persecuted even more so with the
Lord Jesus Christ.

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We know that when he attains his
ultimate victory over the

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dragon, the dragon is not.
Loosed.

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Rather, the dragon is destroyed
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But that’s not what we find here
in Revelation 12, upon the

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elevation of Michael to this
throne in this heaven as it’s

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described.
The devil is not bound.

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He’s not destroyed.
He’s released the very opposite

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of what we know to be the truth
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Then there is warrant within
chapter 12 from those details so

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far to have a strong suspicion
that the concept of the false

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imitating the true, as hinted at
in Chapter 11 as very obvious in

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Chapter 13.
As the dragon continues its

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work.
To see that perhaps in this

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chapter we have indeed the seeds
of the same concept being

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developed around this dragon
figure, then becomes more and

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more obvious, an imitation of
the true in his final

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manifestations.
I would like to pursue this just

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a little more, because we
haven’t exhausted all these

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possible details for
consideration in Revelation 12.

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First, it has been urged by some
recent expositors that this

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woman represents Israel, and
that later on in Revelation 17

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the city of Babylon represents
Jerusalem in conjunction with

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Israel.
It’s urged that Michael must

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represent Jesus Christ.
There are certain associations

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in this chapter with the true,
of course, which are urged as an

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indication that this is Christ
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I’d like to look at this just a
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Could this concept of Israel in
conjunction with this woman, and

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then finally with the city of
Babylon in 17 really be the

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case?
Well, first we notice in

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Revelation 12 verse one that
this woman is clothed with the

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stars, the sun and the moon.
And those who feel that this

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interpretation favors the woman
representing Israel and Jesus

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being Michael will suggest that
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and consider the fact that the
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were given in a dream to Joseph,
which of course is true, and

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that that was times.
Of course, at that time the 12

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stars had a bearing upon the 12
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But once again we have to be
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For though that is indeed the
initial association in Genesis

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with the 12 stars and the sun
and the moon, as time went along

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in Israel’s history those
symbols came to take on another

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meaning.
Those symbols came to take on an

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apostate association.
We say this when we look at

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passages in Scripture the deal
with this concept, such as in

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Jeremiah and in the Kings, where
the sun and the moon and the

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stars are worshipped by Israel.
And the 12 signs of the Zodiac

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as it’s used in one of the
marginal references in the kings

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are the subjects of apostate
worship and adoration at the

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time of the captivity.
As we’ve said in Jeremiah, there

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is a definite reference to
Israel’s apostate adoration of

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the 12 stars of the sun and the
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So then there is once again need
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the 12 Stars had that
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As we progress through.
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associated with apostasy.
They become the subjects of

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worship.
The brazen serpent was a symbol

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to start with of God’s salvation
in Israel.

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But by the time of Hezekiah it
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The hush tan It had changed its
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It had become apostasized.
It had become an object of vain

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worship.
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one looks at those symbols, not.
Just were their first.

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Jews in Israel’s history in the
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But what meanings were finally
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How were they finally associated
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Since there is warrant in the
environment of chapter 12,

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namely in 13 and in 11 for
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they come out so clearly as the
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last stage after chapter 12, to
be an ecclesiastical figure are

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at least an imitation of Christ
like the Lamb, but in fact is

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not.
We have good reason, when we

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look at Revelation 12 and verse
one and see these stars and

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remember their associations with
Joseph’s dream, to ask ourselves

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whether there is any other
association in scripture

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besides.
Was there a later development

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that gave those stars the sun
and the moon another connection?

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And indeed there was, and it
amounted to apostasy, and that

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surely can’t be ignored in a
context where apostate terms

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like blasphemy are used to
describe this beast in his final

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manifestation.
Need then for caution.

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Furthermore, considering the
suggestion of Israel, Israel

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strictly speaking never did
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When Christ was born, Israel is
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There was no room at the inn.
There was no stir in Israel.

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There was no agonizing for the
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In fact, there was flat
rejection to picture this woman

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in Revelation 12.
Verse one is a picture of Israel

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travailing and agonizing over
the birth of their Messiah is

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hardly an accurate picture of
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According to the birth scenes
when Jesus comes into Israel

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unnoticed in a small place
unrecognized, where there was no

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room for the inn.
We don’t believe that’s

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appropriate at all.
Furthermore, we can see that

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Christ did not go to heaven as
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For let’s notice these details,
and we press them for what they

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say exactly as she brought forth
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As she brought forth a man child
who was to rule all nations with

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a rod of iron, and her child was
caught up unto God in his

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throne.
The dragon is waiting to pounce.

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In verse 4 the dragon is waiting
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as soon as it was born.
There is a sense of immediacy

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here.
Urgency.

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So thus when the child is born,
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throne immediately as soon as he
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Now any careful consideration of
those terms can be seen not to

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fit the case of the Lord Jesus
Christ.

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He was not cut up to the throne
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He certainly had those like
Herod who wished to take the

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child and to murder him.
And certainly Jesus escaped the

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clutches of Herod and went to
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But going to Egypt with his
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The symbols don’t fit.
We also see in this woman figure

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that there is problem in the
suggestion that she represents

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Israel.
Could it be said, as in the case

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of this woman, that Israel was
nourished in the place of her

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dispersion?
For the woman flees into the

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wilderness, and there she has a
place prepared there.

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The inhabitants of the earth
help her and assist her if the

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woman represents Israel.
And this fleeing into dispersion

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or into the wilderness,
represents Israel fleeing after

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the death of Christ in some way,
such as after 70 AD, as she was

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scattered by the Romans
throughout the Mediterranean

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world.
Did those details fit?

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Could it be said that the Roman
Empire had a place prepared for

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the Jews?
Did they nourish and tend and

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care for Israel instead?
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Israel in dispersion, as
pictured in Deuteronomy 28 and

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Leviticus 26th, was a time of
horror, no time to even consider

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where she’d go next.
Thy life, says Deuteronomy,

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shall hang in doubt because of
thee there thou shalt find no

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ease for thy foot, says
Deuteronomy 28.

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No in dispersion after the birth
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Israel’s plight was something
other than what might be

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described here as the condition
of the woman in the condition of

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her wilderness dispersion, most
importantly, when Babylon falls.

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If we just go a little further
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mind that this is viewed by sun,
of course, as being the fall of

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Jerusalem in Revelation chapter
18, when the city falls, the

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city of Babylon, what are the
Saints encouraged to do by way

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of response?
Well, verse 20 of Revelation 18,

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they’re encouraged.
Rejoice over her, thou heaven,

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and ye holy apostles and
prophets, for God hath avenged

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you on her.
If in fact, this Babylon

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represents Jerusalem, as some
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Is it appropriate?
And is it in harmony with other

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scriptures that the Saints would
be encouraged to rejoice over

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the demise of Jerusalem?
That the prophets and the people

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of God would have reason to be
joyful and happy about the fact

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that Jerusalem has been burned
and destroyed by God, and not

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just, of course, by Gentile
powers.

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How does that harmonize with the
expectations to pray for the

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peace of Jerusalem?
The many other references in the

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Psalms, in the Old Testaments
where the people of God are

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enjoying to sympathize and to
care for the plight of

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Jerusalem, and not, of course,
to rejoice over her final

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destruction and torture.
Once again, the concept of

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Israel, we believe brothers and
sisters, does not fit.

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Furthermore, back in Revelation
12, where is the theater of

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activity?
If the context is allowed to

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define its own terms of
reference, heaven must be

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defined.
In the cases where we have some

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indication as to what kind of
heaven is being talked about, we

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are introduced to heaven.
In verse one of Revelation 12,

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it’s where this woman sits.
She is CLO with the sun and the

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moon is under her feet.
She has a crown of 12 stars.

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It’s in heaven that the dragon
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In verse 3, it’s in the same
heaven where the dragon draws

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his tail.
In the third part of the stars.

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It’s in heaven where the dragon
confronts Michael in verse 7 and

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war breaks out.
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And yet it is sometimes urged
that in verse 5, when the man

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child is elevated and freed from
the clutches of the dragon, as

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soon as he is born and is caught
up unto God into his throne,

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that this must be none other
than the resurrection of Jesus

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Christ to the right hand of the
Father.

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But where is this throne?
Where is this God, this throne?

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And this God is in the position
that Michael finally takes.

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What position does Michael
finally take?

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He takes his place in heaven,
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That’s the throne.
That’s the destination that he’s

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brought to, and that’s the very
heaven where the dragon has been

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previously.
Is this the heaven where the

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almighty dwells?
Does he dwell in the place that

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was previously occupied by the
dragon?

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That’s the residence that
Michael takes up.

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That’s the place of his throne.
That’s where this God is

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positioned.
Do we have any hints in the

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environment of Revelation 1112
and 13 that there might be

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another God spoken up here?
Well, if we go back to

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Revelation 11, it’s interesting
to note in verse 4 in reference

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to the candlesticks and the
witnesses, these verse four are

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the 2 olive trees and the two
candlesticks standing before the

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God of the earth, the God of the
earth.

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Is that the true God or is that
someone else who perhaps poses

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this God?
It’s interesting in Revelation

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11 to read the following.
In verse 13 by way of contrast

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we suggest and the same hour
there was a great earthquake,

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and the 10th part of the city
fell, and in the earthquake were

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slain of men, 7000, and the
remnants were affrighted and

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gave glory to the God of heaven.
Is there a distinction intended

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between the God of heaven?
As opposed to the God of the

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earth.
Two different articles in the

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Greek in verse four?
Or are they two expressions of

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the same God?
Well, it’s interesting once

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again to notice the original,
for we discover when we look at

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Revelation 11, verse four, that
the Greek word for God is

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curious.
They stand before the curious of

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the earth.
But significantly, we believe in

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verse 13.
Curious is not repeated to

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describe the God of heaven.
It is the say off of heaven in

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verse 13.
Why use two distinctive Greek

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terms if in fact it was intended
that we are to make these two

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titles synonymous with one and
the same God, the God of the

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earth, the curious of the earth,
as opposed to the, say, off of

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heaven?
We suggest there’s a distinction

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there.
And that in turn prepares us, we

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believe, for a correct
understanding of Revelation 12

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and verse 5, where Michael is
caught up unto God and his

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throne in a heaven that we can
define in the context of

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Revelation 12.
That was a place of warfare, a

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heaven where a dragon presided
before Michael got there.

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A heaven where a woman finally
sits, clothed with the sun and

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the moon and the 12 stars.
Is this the heaven of where our

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Father truly presides?
Is this this presence where a

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dragon fights and challenges
Michael?

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Hardly, brothers and sisters,
the context of Revelation 12 the

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destination of where Michael
finally goes when he goes to

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this throne, and before this
God, is the heaven where the

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dragon has presided.
And therefore there’s good

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reason to suspect that this is
not the true, but it’s an

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imitation of the truth.
The language of the true is

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being used to portray a place
that truly is not in the context

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that heaven where our Father in
Heaven presides.

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And then from the clues in
Revelation Chapter 11, that the

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Scriptures distinguish this God
who was called the curious of

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the earth as opposed to the true
one, who is the Phaos of heaven,

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gives us reinforcement and
further reason to suspect that

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where Michael goes is not where
the Lord Jesus Christ went when

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he went to the right hand of the
Father.

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Therefore, once again, we see
how.

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A.
Further reading in Revelation 13

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and asking ourselves how the
dragon finally ends up in his

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later manifestations associated
with the sea beast and

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blasphemy, and then finally a
figure who looks like the lamb

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with the dragon inside, shows us
that what’s happening in

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Revelation chapter 12 is the
dragon in his first stage.

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But there are clues in
Revelation 12 before we get to

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13 that this dragon is going to
be associated with the woman.

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He’s going to be associated with
a place of authority called

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Heaven.
There is going to be a place

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that is something like a.
Throne called the Throne of.

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God and that this Michael is
indeed going to be one who

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portrays God like features in
some ways.

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Thus his name Michael, like unto
God we might think that.

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That’s absurd at first.
But is it so absurd?

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Do we not have a connection with
this beast system and 2nd

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Thessalonians Chapter 2 In The
Man of Sin We do.

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Our notes show us that by the
very close word associations

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between a man of sin and the
beast system, they are one and

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the same.
Same terms, same concepts, the

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very same Greek words use.
Thus when we get to Revelation

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chapter 12, we see one who is
like God, who ascends to a

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position that is heaven, Who
then sits in a place or comes to

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a place.
That is called the throne of

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God.
And we know at the same time

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00:28:25,440 –> 00:28:28,480
that the man of sin, having the
connections he does with this

439
00:28:28,480 –> 00:28:34,720
beast system, also is described
as one like God, that he is one

440
00:28:34,720 –> 00:28:39,200
who presides in a place called a
temple, that he has a seat

441
00:28:39,320 –> 00:28:41,240
according to Second
Thessalonians 2.

442
00:28:42,120 –> 00:28:45,880
We do have good warrant for
believing from those connections

443
00:28:45,880 –> 00:28:48,680
with Second Thessalonians
Chapter 2 that this is none

444
00:28:48,680 –> 00:28:52,680
other than a further
amplification of what’s going on

445
00:28:53,240 –> 00:28:57,000
in 2nd Thessalonians 2.
Perhaps this is a further stage

446
00:28:57,000 –> 00:29:01,000
or further information, but the
concept is not out of the

447
00:29:01,000 –> 00:29:05,360
ballpark as it were.
We do have a person in Scripture

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00:29:05,680 –> 00:29:08,840
in a passage that does connect
with this beast system at other

449
00:29:08,840 –> 00:29:12,640
points after 12 and before 12,
Who does?

450
00:29:12,640 –> 00:29:15,600
Pose as a God.
And yet he isn’t God who does

451
00:29:15,600 –> 00:29:18,120
have a seat of authority.
That would look like the Temple

452
00:29:18,120 –> 00:29:22,240
of God, but it isn’t the Temple
of God who claims to be like a

453
00:29:22,240 –> 00:29:25,520
Michael one like God.
But in fact, the man of sin is

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00:29:25,520 –> 00:29:28,960
no more than the Son of
Perdition, one who is doing a

455
00:29:28,960 –> 00:29:34,800
very careful job of
counterfeiting great value and

456
00:29:34,800 –> 00:29:37,760
having first seriously
considered the terms of

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00:29:37,760 –> 00:29:39,760
reference in 2nd Thessalonians
2.

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00:29:39,760 –> 00:29:44,480
First, before going into
Revelation value and seeing 1st

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00:29:44,560 –> 00:29:49,400
that the man of sin has very
careful associations with the

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00:29:49,400 –> 00:29:51,640
beast system, and understanding
that first.

461
00:29:52,280 –> 00:29:54,880
So that when we look at these
details and might really wonder

462
00:29:54,880 –> 00:29:57,080
whether it could possibly be a
counterfeit, there is a

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00:29:57,080 –> 00:30:00,360
precedent for it already laid
down in Paul’s writings.

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00:30:00,360 –> 00:30:05,400
Of course there must be cues
within this context itself that

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00:30:05,400 –> 00:30:08,840
we have something like the man
of sin, and we look for those

466
00:30:08,840 –> 00:30:10,640
cues.
We believe we have found them

467
00:30:10,920 –> 00:30:14,120
not only in 12 but as we’ve said
in Chapter 11 and also in

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00:30:14,120 –> 00:30:18,920
chapter 13, like just now.
To go a little further into 17,

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00:30:29,960 –> 00:30:34,520
where does John see this woman
sitting on this scarlet colored

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00:30:34,520 –> 00:30:36,640
beast when he first pictures
her?

471
00:30:37,440 –> 00:30:42,760
Well, we read in Revelation 17,
verse three, that John is

472
00:30:42,760 –> 00:30:45,440
carried away and where does he
go?

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00:30:46,640 –> 00:30:51,920
Well, in Revelation 17, verse 3,
John says he is carried away in

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00:30:51,920 –> 00:30:57,240
the Spirit into the wilderness,
and I saw a woman sit upon a

475
00:30:57,240 –> 00:31:00,080
scarlet colored beast.
Full of names of.

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00:31:00,080 –> 00:31:02,760
Blasphemy.
Having seven heads and 10 horns,

477
00:31:03,280 –> 00:31:07,760
we’re reminded of the beasts in
Daniel, especially the 4th

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00:31:07,760 –> 00:31:11,320
Beast.
We’re reminded of the beasts in

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00:31:11,320 –> 00:31:15,280
Revelation 13.
We’re reminded of the fact that

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00:31:15,280 –> 00:31:19,760
the sea Beast is introduced to
us with the name Blasphemy, and

481
00:31:19,760 –> 00:31:24,880
now this woman with this beast
is associated in the same way

482
00:31:25,120 –> 00:31:30,520
with the term blasphemy.
There is continuity between this

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00:31:30,520 –> 00:31:35,640
beast, obviously in the beast in
Revelation 13 and in Daniel.

484
00:31:36,920 –> 00:31:39,800
We know that the dragon, of
course, was still present in

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00:31:39,800 –> 00:31:42,280
Revelation 13 in a very covert
way.

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00:31:43,920 –> 00:31:48,120
We know beyond chapter 17 that
the dragon is still present as

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00:31:48,120 –> 00:31:52,960
far as chapter 20 and verse 2.
It’s not then unlikely that the

488
00:31:52,960 –> 00:31:56,560
dragon is doing here underneath
the scene exactly what he was

489
00:31:56,560 –> 00:31:59,840
doing with the sea beast and the
earth beast in Revelation 13.

490
00:32:01,560 –> 00:32:06,240
Furthermore, in Revelation 13,
the sea beast is described as

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00:32:06,240 –> 00:32:09,440
having the mouth of a lion, and
we know that from the

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00:32:09,440 –> 00:32:12,760
connections in Daniel 7 the lion
was associated with Babylon.

493
00:32:14,120 –> 00:32:18,320
Lo and behold, we discover in
verse five that with this beast

494
00:32:18,320 –> 00:32:20,800
and this woman too, there is a
connection with Babylon.

495
00:32:21,520 –> 00:32:25,760
Four upon her forehead is a name
written Mystery, Babylon

496
00:32:26,800 –> 00:32:30,320
Mystery.
Mystery was associated with a

497
00:32:30,320 –> 00:32:33,000
man of sin in Second
Thessalonians chapter 2.

498
00:32:34,080 –> 00:32:37,360
In fact, the very same Greek
word used here for the mystery

499
00:32:37,480 –> 00:32:40,760
associated with this woman is
the same Greek word used for the

500
00:32:40,760 –> 00:32:44,120
term mystery in Second
Thessalonians chapter two.

501
00:32:45,720 –> 00:32:49,880
We have here a woman on a beast
and she is in the wilderness

502
00:32:50,000 –> 00:32:53,720
coming out of it.
Any connection with the woman,

503
00:32:53,720 –> 00:32:58,360
possibly that was pursued by the
dragon in Revelation chapter 12.

504
00:32:58,560 –> 00:33:01,840
Where did she end up?
Well, keep our hand here in

505
00:33:01,840 –> 00:33:06,080
Revelation 17 and let’s remind
ourselves how that scene closed.

506
00:33:07,520 –> 00:33:09,840
We discover in Revelation
chapter 12, brothers and

507
00:33:09,840 –> 00:33:17,320
sisters, verse 13, that the
dragon saw that he was cast unto

508
00:33:17,320 –> 00:33:20,120
the earth.
He persecuted the woman which

509
00:33:20,120 –> 00:33:22,480
brought forth the manchild.
So first he went for the

510
00:33:22,480 –> 00:33:25,880
manchild to devour the child as
soon as he was born.

511
00:33:25,960 –> 00:33:28,600
But he didn’t succeed against
the Manchild and now he turns

512
00:33:28,600 –> 00:33:32,440
against the woman.
But the woman is taken away into

513
00:33:32,440 –> 00:33:36,560
the wilderness. 2 wings are
given to her and she flies in

514
00:33:36,560 –> 00:33:41,440
there where she’s nourished.
Furthermore, the servant pursues

515
00:33:41,440 –> 00:33:44,160
her in verse 15, lets out a
flood from his mouth.

516
00:33:44,960 –> 00:33:48,040
But verse 16, the earth gives
assistance to the woman.

517
00:33:49,120 –> 00:33:53,000
The earth gives assistance to
the woman and absorbs the shock

518
00:33:53,000 –> 00:33:54,880
of this water coming out of the
Dragon’s mouth.

519
00:33:55,720 –> 00:33:58,800
As a consequence, you notice
what’s happened in verse 17.

520
00:33:59,800 –> 00:34:03,200
He is wrought with the woman.
But who does he pursue?

521
00:34:04,240 –> 00:34:09,480
He makes war now with the
remnant of her seed, not the

522
00:34:09,480 –> 00:34:14,159
woman as such, but he makes war
with the remnant of her.

523
00:34:14,159 –> 00:34:17,280
Seed.
We leave, therefore, the woman

524
00:34:17,280 –> 00:34:21,159
in the wilderness, having been
first pursued by the dragon and

525
00:34:21,159 –> 00:34:23,920
chased into that wilderness.
But we leave.

526
00:34:23,920 –> 00:34:27,560
Her.
Being assisted by the earth in

527
00:34:27,560 –> 00:34:31,320
verse 16, and the earth
swallowing up the persecuting

528
00:34:31,320 –> 00:34:33,400
influence of the dragon in verse
16.

529
00:34:34,199 –> 00:34:36,840
In other words, the woman and
the earth now seem to have

530
00:34:36,840 –> 00:34:39,760
something in common.
The inhabitants of the earth are

531
00:34:39,760 –> 00:34:43,080
giving her nourishment and
assistance, in other words, this

532
00:34:43,080 –> 00:34:45,679
cooperation between the woman
and the earth.

533
00:34:46,440 –> 00:34:49,440
The dragon therefore pursues the
remnant of her seed.

534
00:34:51,080 –> 00:34:55,480
We leave the woman in the
wilderness in cooperation with

535
00:34:55,480 –> 00:35:00,800
the earth.
In Revelation 17 the woman

536
00:35:00,800 –> 00:35:04,960
emerges.
Now she emerges from the same

537
00:35:04,960 –> 00:35:09,920
place where she was left this
woman, this whore, now

538
00:35:09,960 –> 00:35:15,040
compromised, impregnated with
air, having compromised and

539
00:35:15,040 –> 00:35:20,800
adulterated, the truth now
emerges as a compromised woman.

540
00:35:21,000 –> 00:35:22,480
Out of the.
Wilderness.

541
00:35:22,720 –> 00:35:26,680
John is taken to the place where
we left the woman in Revelation

542
00:35:26,680 –> 00:35:30,680
12.
There she was being pursued by

543
00:35:30,680 –> 00:35:33,560
the dragon and finally given
assistance by the earth.

544
00:35:34,680 –> 00:35:38,080
The dragon changed the object of
his persecution.

545
00:35:38,960 –> 00:35:41,440
He pursued the remnant of her
seed.

546
00:35:42,360 –> 00:35:47,120
But now the woman emerges at
this latter stage from the

547
00:35:47,120 –> 00:35:51,640
wilderness as a whore.
Her character has been

548
00:35:51,640 –> 00:35:54,520
adulterated.
She is a woman.

549
00:35:54,960 –> 00:35:57,160
That’s what she was when she
went into the wilderness.

550
00:35:57,840 –> 00:36:01,640
She is now a whore.
That’s not what she was at the

551
00:36:01,640 –> 00:36:03,840
start, when she was pursued by
the dragon.

552
00:36:05,160 –> 00:36:07,440
She is no longer pursued by a
beast.

553
00:36:07,480 –> 00:36:15,680
She is riding on a beast and is
in collusion with the beast and

554
00:36:15,680 –> 00:36:18,880
those who are persecuted as we
pursue the rest of this section

555
00:36:18,880 –> 00:36:22,480
in Revelation are not the woman
or is not the woman herself.

556
00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:25,080
She’s no longer the subject of
persecution.

557
00:36:25,240 –> 00:36:29,960
She becomes a persecutor.
Those who are persecuted are

558
00:36:29,960 –> 00:36:32,440
like those who are the Remnant.
Of her.

559
00:36:32,440 –> 00:36:35,200
Seed mentioned incidentally in
Revelation 12.

560
00:36:35,200 –> 00:36:39,480
At the end, those who are
persecuted are only those left

561
00:36:40,440 –> 00:36:44,720
who resist this woman, who
resist the beast system, and

562
00:36:44,720 –> 00:36:50,120
who, according to chapter 17
here in verse 14, these are

563
00:36:50,120 –> 00:36:53,440
those who finally make war with
the Lamb when he’s ready to

564
00:36:53,440 –> 00:36:55,600
March out in judgment against
this whore.

565
00:36:56,600 –> 00:37:00,480
These are the Saints.
These are those whom we read of

566
00:37:00,480 –> 00:37:03,720
earlier in our excitation this
morning in chapter 14, that have

567
00:37:03,720 –> 00:37:08,920
not defiled themselves with
women they have not adulterated

568
00:37:08,920 –> 00:37:10,240
themselves as.
She.

569
00:37:10,280 –> 00:37:13,960
Has adulterated herself.
She’s now a compromised women, a

570
00:37:13,960 –> 00:37:16,160
woman.
The Saints are not to so

571
00:37:16,160 –> 00:37:19,520
compromise themselves.
They are woman like figures.

572
00:37:19,520 –> 00:37:21,560
They are virgins, not to be
defiled.

573
00:37:21,680 –> 00:37:26,520
In contrast to this woman, she
didn’t start off that way when

574
00:37:26,520 –> 00:37:27,760
she first went into the
wilderness.

575
00:37:29,040 –> 00:37:33,240
But now the one who persecuted
her and chased her into the

576
00:37:33,320 –> 00:37:37,840
wilderness is now the means by
which she is transported.

577
00:37:38,880 –> 00:37:43,040
They are now in collusion.
We might wonder what has taken

578
00:37:43,040 –> 00:37:46,400
place to put this woman in a
position of compromise.

579
00:37:46,680 –> 00:37:49,520
We might wonder how it is that
she goes in one way and comes

580
00:37:49,520 –> 00:37:52,560
out the next.
But we have a clue, don’t we?

581
00:37:53,880 –> 00:37:56,840
The woman at the end of
Revelation 12 is no longer being

582
00:37:56,840 –> 00:38:01,000
directly pursued by the dragon.
Instead, as we’ve said, he draws

583
00:38:01,000 –> 00:38:04,240
his attention only to the
remnant of her seed, not to her

584
00:38:04,240 –> 00:38:07,200
as a whole.
We did get a hint, didn’t we,

585
00:38:07,640 –> 00:38:10,080
that she received assistance
from another party.

586
00:38:11,000 –> 00:38:13,920
She was nourished and helped by
the earth.

587
00:38:14,560 –> 00:38:19,120
Now what associations in this
context are given to the earth?

588
00:38:19,480 –> 00:38:21,080
Who is the earth?
What is the earth?

589
00:38:22,800 –> 00:38:26,960
What’s this beast called?
It is the earth beast.

590
00:38:28,040 –> 00:38:32,040
It is the beast of the earth.
What associations, finally in

591
00:38:32,040 –> 00:38:34,120
Revelation 12 are given to this
earth?

592
00:38:35,120 –> 00:38:38,360
The earth is described as being
in need of woe.

593
00:38:38,920 –> 00:38:42,080
Well, when the dragon is cast
down in Revelation chapter 12,

594
00:38:42,080 –> 00:38:46,600
it specifically says in verse 12
woe to the inhibitors of the

595
00:38:46,680 –> 00:38:49,840
earth and of the sea.
Woe.

596
00:38:49,840 –> 00:38:55,160
To the earth woe, to the sea?
Why, we might ask, while the

597
00:38:55,160 –> 00:38:58,840
earth nourishes the woman.
And then in chapter 13, there

598
00:38:58,840 –> 00:39:02,680
surely is no coincidence that
what do we have coming out of

599
00:39:02,680 –> 00:39:07,960
the water is a sea beast and an
earth beast.

600
00:39:08,600 –> 00:39:10,680
Woe to the inhabitants of the
earth.

601
00:39:11,160 –> 00:39:13,200
Woe to the inhabitants of the
sea.

602
00:39:14,360 –> 00:39:16,920
The scene closes.
A new scene begins.

603
00:39:17,280 –> 00:39:19,040
Outcomes.
A beast from the earth.

604
00:39:19,360 –> 00:39:21,240
Outcomes.
A beast from the sea.

605
00:39:22,240 –> 00:39:26,480
The sea and the earth are now
dominated by this power.

606
00:39:27,120 –> 00:39:30,000
The earth and the sea are now
under the influence.

607
00:39:30,600 –> 00:39:33,480
Of.
The Dragon, only it’s covert,

608
00:39:33,920 –> 00:39:36,520
for The Dragon gives us power to
the Sea Beast.

609
00:39:37,480 –> 00:39:39,680
The dragon is underneath the
earth.

610
00:39:39,680 –> 00:39:42,600
Beast is the inside motive
force.

611
00:39:42,760 –> 00:39:46,560
Although it’s not apparent, the
dragon, although cast down to

612
00:39:46,560 –> 00:39:49,440
the earth now, has dominated the
earth.

613
00:39:51,080 –> 00:39:54,560
The dragon isn’t the loser,
although he’s been thrust out of

614
00:39:54,560 –> 00:39:56,920
a presiding place in heaven by
Michael.

615
00:39:57,160 –> 00:40:00,920
In some symbolic sense, the
dragon now dominates the earth.

616
00:40:01,200 –> 00:40:03,040
More than that, he dominates the
sea.

617
00:40:03,680 –> 00:40:07,440
So that Earth and sea are now
pictured in a beast like form,

618
00:40:07,640 –> 00:40:13,360
totally dominated by the covert
work of the dragon, who is the

619
00:40:13,360 –> 00:40:16,400
mode of force behind the Earth
and the sea.

620
00:40:17,120 –> 00:40:21,560
No wonder then significantly at
the end of 12 there’s a woe that

621
00:40:21,560 –> 00:40:23,960
is issued to the Earth and to
the sea.

622
00:40:24,080 –> 00:40:26,640
Why?
Because in 13 we’re going to

623
00:40:26,640 –> 00:40:29,680
find that the Earth and the Sea
become dominated by the.

624
00:40:29,800 –> 00:40:35,720
Earth system, the Earth based.
And by the sea beast, so then,

625
00:40:36,320 –> 00:40:38,840
compromise has taken place with
the woman.

626
00:40:39,760 –> 00:40:42,200
No wonder at the beginning of
Revelation 12, she is.

627
00:40:42,200 –> 00:40:45,400
First pictured.
As having a picture of

628
00:40:45,400 –> 00:40:48,200
authority.
She doesn’t start that way,

629
00:40:48,920 –> 00:40:51,720
although that’s the first
picture given to us of the woman

630
00:40:52,120 –> 00:40:55,080
with the sun and the moon and
the stars associated with her.

631
00:40:55,280 –> 00:40:58,240
When we actually read of the
woman in the events of chapter

632
00:40:58,240 –> 00:41:01,040
12, it’s not her that was in
heaven and is thrust down and

633
00:41:01,040 –> 00:41:05,200
persecuted.
Rather, the woman is chased by

634
00:41:05,200 –> 00:41:08,160
the dragon, but comes out
finally out of the wilderness in

635
00:41:08,160 –> 00:41:12,280
17, triumphant.
As she comes out riding on the

636
00:41:12,280 –> 00:41:14,880
skullar colored beats, she is in
control.

637
00:41:15,680 –> 00:41:18,400
She is elevated.
She is one who has had.

638
00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:22,320
Control over the whole earth.
No wonder then, in Chapter 12,

639
00:41:22,320 –> 00:41:26,480
the first snapshot we have of
her is what would seem to me to

640
00:41:26,480 –> 00:41:29,880
be her latter end.
It’s not what she actually shows

641
00:41:29,880 –> 00:41:33,600
herself to be in the events of
Chapter 12, but it is what she

642
00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:35,800
ends up to be.
By the time we get to Revelation

643
00:41:35,800 –> 00:41:40,160
17, and certainly before that,
she ends up in a position of

644
00:41:40,160 –> 00:41:43,480
exhortation.
She ends up in heaven.

645
00:41:43,680 –> 00:41:46,160
But she’s not in heaven.
As we look at the events of

646
00:41:46,160 –> 00:41:49,040
Chapter 12, the dragon was in
heaven.

647
00:41:49,520 –> 00:41:51,760
Michael gets up there and casts
out the dragon.

648
00:41:52,000 –> 00:41:55,400
The woman is never described in
the events of Chapter 12 as

649
00:41:55,400 –> 00:41:57,440
being in heaven.
We might wonder how she ever got

650
00:41:57,440 –> 00:42:01,200
there, because when we see her
in chapter 12, she’s on the

651
00:42:01,200 –> 00:42:03,840
earth all the time.
There’s no mention of her going

652
00:42:03,840 –> 00:42:05,840
down to heaven like with the
dragon.

653
00:42:06,360 –> 00:42:09,480
She’s pursued by the dragon on
the earth, into the wilderness

654
00:42:09,480 –> 00:42:13,240
and finding help by the earth.
So she was never in heaven in

655
00:42:13,240 –> 00:42:16,800
the events of chapter 12.
How did she ever get up there

656
00:42:16,800 –> 00:42:18,280
then?
How did she ever get to the

657
00:42:18,280 –> 00:42:20,240
position of verse one of
Revelation 12?

658
00:42:20,720 –> 00:42:23,200
Revelation 12 doesn’t tell us
she’s always on the earth.

659
00:42:23,200 –> 00:42:27,760
In chapter 12.
Somehow, in some way, at some

660
00:42:27,760 –> 00:42:32,640
later stage past Revelation 12,
she gets up to that position of

661
00:42:32,640 –> 00:42:34,920
having the sun and moon adorning
her.

662
00:42:35,240 –> 00:42:37,320
She gets up to a position of
being in heaven.

663
00:42:37,520 –> 00:42:40,240
But there’s nothing in 12 that
tells us how she got into heaven

664
00:42:40,400 –> 00:42:44,480
or how she might ever get out.
So we first get a picture,

665
00:42:44,560 –> 00:42:48,080
typical of the pattern of
Revelation, of the end with the

666
00:42:48,080 –> 00:42:52,400
woman, and then we go back and
trace the events that lead up to

667
00:42:52,400 –> 00:42:54,560
that end.
And that takes us all the way

668
00:42:54,560 –> 00:42:57,600
through 12.
It takes 13 to do that, and it

669
00:42:57,600 –> 00:43:00,560
takes part of 17 to finally
alert us to the fact.

670
00:43:00,840 –> 00:43:04,320
This is how the woman gets into
a triumphant posture.

671
00:43:04,960 –> 00:43:08,040
It’s after the events of chapter
12 and not before.

672
00:43:08,800 –> 00:43:11,120
So.
John has to be taken to the

673
00:43:11,120 –> 00:43:13,760
wilderness to go and find the
woman that went into the

674
00:43:13,760 –> 00:43:16,320
wilderness, and now she comes
out compromised.

675
00:43:16,320 –> 00:43:20,000
Now she comes out triumphant, at
least from the point of view of

676
00:43:20,000 –> 00:43:23,800
the flesh.
Now, brothers and sisters, what

677
00:43:23,800 –> 00:43:25,240
about the identity of this
woman?

678
00:43:26,560 –> 00:43:30,200
She’s a hard.
Figure some have urged that if

679
00:43:30,200 –> 00:43:33,480
we go back into the Old
Testament and we ask ourselves

680
00:43:33,480 –> 00:43:36,280
what is the predominant hard
figure of the Old Testament, we

681
00:43:36,280 –> 00:43:38,520
will be left with concluding it
would be Israel.

682
00:43:39,560 –> 00:43:42,400
And that’s fair in the sense
that most of the prophecies of

683
00:43:42,400 –> 00:43:45,520
scripture deal with Israel and
picture her as a whore.

684
00:43:46,360 –> 00:43:49,120
Certainly that would be true of
Israel and many, many of the

685
00:43:49,120 –> 00:43:52,000
prophets.
Ezekiel especially betrays her

686
00:43:52,000 –> 00:43:54,960
as an unclean woman.
Hosea portrays her through his

687
00:43:54,960 –> 00:43:58,400
experience with his wife as a
hard figure and so on.

688
00:43:59,200 –> 00:44:03,400
But we might ask, is that the
only kind of hard figure in the

689
00:44:03,400 –> 00:44:08,360
Old Testament, the idea of it
being Israel, always really to

690
00:44:08,360 –> 00:44:11,240
start with part of the true.
Who then, like the prodigal son,

691
00:44:11,240 –> 00:44:14,720
has left and become apostate?
Is that the only kind of hard

692
00:44:14,800 –> 00:44:17,240
figure?
Is there another kind of heart

693
00:44:17,240 –> 00:44:19,960
of figure we might consider
before we draw a permanent

694
00:44:19,960 –> 00:44:23,000
conclusion?
There’s only really one other

695
00:44:23,000 –> 00:44:27,240
woman in the Old Testament that
figures predominantly as a heart

696
00:44:27,240 –> 00:44:31,560
of figure besides Israel, and
it’s Jezebel.

697
00:44:32,840 –> 00:44:34,280
She’s a different kind of heart
of figure.

698
00:44:35,040 –> 00:44:38,040
Unlike Israel, who started off
on the right foot and then

699
00:44:38,040 –> 00:44:40,680
apostasized, Jezebel was always
a Pagan.

700
00:44:41,520 –> 00:44:43,200
Jezebel was a Pagan right to
start with.

701
00:44:43,880 –> 00:44:46,840
Through her marriage with Ahab,
she adulterated Israel’s

702
00:44:46,840 –> 00:44:50,120
religion.
She posed as a mother of Israel,

703
00:44:50,680 –> 00:44:52,520
but in fact she wasn’t and she
never was.

704
00:44:52,520 –> 00:44:57,320
To start with, she was a Pagan
to her very bones, and she put

705
00:44:57,320 –> 00:45:01,400
on a veneer of Israelitis
worship as long as she was in

706
00:45:01,400 –> 00:45:08,520
cahoots with Ahab, A Pagan at
her heart with a veneer of the

707
00:45:08,520 –> 00:45:11,640
truth.
That’s the figure of a harlot

708
00:45:11,880 –> 00:45:14,440
Jezebel.
But is this woman Jezebel?

709
00:45:14,440 –> 00:45:19,000
Is she a Jezebel like harlots?
Well, let’s look at the word

710
00:45:19,000 –> 00:45:21,960
associations and see if we can
find Old Testament leads.

711
00:45:22,560 –> 00:45:26,720
Verse five of Revelation 17 says
that upon her forehead was a

712
00:45:26,720 –> 00:45:33,040
name written Mystery Babylon.
The great, the mother of.

713
00:45:33,040 –> 00:45:36,760
Harlots.
Is there a phrase that matches

714
00:45:36,760 –> 00:45:41,040
that somewhere in the old?
Testament the mother of Harlots.

715
00:45:42,560 –> 00:45:47,520
Let’s turn to 2nd Kings Chapter
9, where we believe we find the

716
00:45:47,520 –> 00:45:53,600
closest approximation to that
phrase in the Old Testament, and

717
00:45:53,600 –> 00:45:55,760
it’s interesting to discover who
it’s talking about.

718
00:45:57,000 –> 00:46:03,520
For we find in Second Kings
Chapter 9 the following verse

719
00:46:03,520 –> 00:46:09,480
22.
And it came to pass when Joram

720
00:46:09,480 –> 00:46:14,040
slew or saw Jehu.
Excuse me that he saw said, Is

721
00:46:14,040 –> 00:46:17,280
it peace, Jehu?
And he answered, what peace, so

722
00:46:17,280 –> 00:46:22,880
long as the whoredoms of thy
mother Jezebel and her

723
00:46:22,880 –> 00:46:28,040
witchcrafts are so many
whoredoms associated with a

724
00:46:28,040 –> 00:46:34,280
mother and it’s Jezebel.
The closest approximation to

725
00:46:34,280 –> 00:46:38,960
that phrase in Revelation 17 is
here in Second Kings 9, and

726
00:46:38,960 –> 00:46:43,200
Arthur Gibson and his series
that he did in the Testimony 701

727
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:47,000
quotations from the Apocalypse
shows by looking at the original

728
00:46:47,000 –> 00:46:51,560
sources that indeed it’s even
much closer as an approximation.

729
00:46:51,560 –> 00:46:55,400
The way it appears here in the
English and the King James, I’d

730
00:46:55,440 –> 00:46:58,160
have to say that I’m personally
indebted to Arthur and his list

731
00:46:58,560 –> 00:47:01,680
of allusions and scriptural
connections in the Apocalypse.

732
00:47:01,960 –> 00:47:06,720
For in second in Revelation 17
verse five, he was the first to

733
00:47:06,720 –> 00:47:10,800
indicate to me anyways, that
this is surely the source in the

734
00:47:10,880 –> 00:47:16,400
Old Testament of that phrase, a
woman who’s a harlot and she’s a

735
00:47:16,400 –> 00:47:19,640
mother figure and she’s
associated with whoredoms.

736
00:47:21,040 –> 00:47:23,920
But furthermore, brothers and
sisters, and we believe this is

737
00:47:24,280 –> 00:47:28,920
the greater proof if we are
asking ourselves who this harlot

738
00:47:28,920 –> 00:47:33,280
figure is in Revelation 17.
And we are debating as to

739
00:47:33,280 –> 00:47:36,240
whether the harlot figure is
something like Israel as a

740
00:47:36,240 –> 00:47:37,840
harlot figure in the Old
Testament.

741
00:47:38,360 –> 00:47:40,440
Or whether this hearted.
Figure would be more like a

742
00:47:40,440 –> 00:47:44,480
Jezebel who was a Pagan to her
heart and only took on a veneer

743
00:47:44,480 –> 00:47:48,720
of the truth.
Might we not be right in asking

744
00:47:48,720 –> 00:47:52,720
ourselves where is the first
hearted figure mentioned in

745
00:47:52,720 –> 00:47:56,640
Revelation?
Maybe the first reference to a

746
00:47:56,640 –> 00:48:00,000
hearted figure in Revelation
would help to define the terms

747
00:48:00,000 –> 00:48:02,880
of reference in Revelation
before we meet this woman.

748
00:48:02,880 –> 00:48:07,040
In Revelation 17 we did the same
thing with the term blasphemy

749
00:48:07,560 –> 00:48:10,880
use only of the beast system,
except in Revelation chapter 2

750
00:48:10,880 –> 00:48:12,480
and verse nine in the seven
letters.

751
00:48:13,040 –> 00:48:15,640
And there we discovered when we
went to Revelation 2, verse

752
00:48:15,640 –> 00:48:19,120
nine, that the first reference
to blasphemy in the Book of

753
00:48:19,120 –> 00:48:21,400
Revelation.
Is to do with those who.

754
00:48:21,400 –> 00:48:24,600
Say they are Jews and are not
imitators of the truth.

755
00:48:25,520 –> 00:48:29,720
So we asked the question who or
what is the first reference to a

756
00:48:29,720 –> 00:48:33,000
harlot figure in the Book of
Revelation, and we discover it

757
00:48:33,000 –> 00:48:35,720
very easily.
It, too is in the seven letters

758
00:48:36,600 –> 00:48:41,600
back to Revelation chapter 2, to
the Church of Thyrotyra.

759
00:48:43,240 –> 00:48:45,400
The Spirit says this by way of
warning.

760
00:48:46,160 –> 00:48:53,360
Verse 20 notwithstanding, I have
a few things against.

761
00:48:53,360 –> 00:49:01,720
Thee, because thou sufferest
that woman Jezebel, which

762
00:49:01,840 –> 00:49:06,040
calleth herself a.
Prophetess noticed that, like

763
00:49:06,040 –> 00:49:12,680
the man of sin, call it herself
a prophetess, That’s a title or

764
00:49:12,680 –> 00:49:16,640
a description.
She ascribes to herself like the

765
00:49:16,640 –> 00:49:20,000
man of sin, like the Prince of
Tyre that we looked at yesterday

766
00:49:20,000 –> 00:49:23,280
in Ezekiel 28.
Like Lucifer and Isaiah 14,

767
00:49:23,280 –> 00:49:27,720
Jezebel is of a similar type.
She calls herself to be a

768
00:49:27,720 –> 00:49:32,400
spokesman for God.
She claims to be God like, but

769
00:49:32,400 –> 00:49:34,600
she’s not.
What does she do instead?

770
00:49:35,240 –> 00:49:37,640
To teach and to seduce my
servants?

771
00:49:37,640 –> 00:49:43,120
To commit fornication and to eat
things sacrificed unto idols?

772
00:49:43,920 –> 00:49:46,840
What is the Jezebel figure
associated with here?

773
00:49:46,880 –> 00:49:51,720
In Revelation, she claims to be
a prophetess. #1 She has the

774
00:49:51,720 –> 00:49:56,240
appearance of being God, or at
least God like, or a spokesman

775
00:49:56,240 –> 00:49:58,840
for God.
She appears to have the

776
00:49:58,840 –> 00:50:02,280
credentials of the true.
She’s not, however.

777
00:50:02,320 –> 00:50:06,720
She’s a false prophet.
She actively campaigns for her

778
00:50:06,720 –> 00:50:11,600
false views because she teaches
and she seduces God’s servants.

779
00:50:13,080 –> 00:50:16,200
She is still associated by a
figure as a harnot with

780
00:50:16,200 –> 00:50:18,480
Fornication Porneia in the
Greek.

781
00:50:19,800 –> 00:50:25,760
And lastly, although she poses
as a prophetess, although she

782
00:50:25,760 –> 00:50:31,000
seduces her servants and causes
them to commit fornication and

783
00:50:31,000 –> 00:50:37,120
has those religious trappings,
nevertheless is a Pagan at

784
00:50:37,120 –> 00:50:39,920
heart.
Because what she brings the

785
00:50:39,920 –> 00:50:45,080
servants to do is to eat things
associated with idols, just like

786
00:50:45,160 –> 00:50:50,200
the Jezebel harlot of the Old
Testament she looked like.

787
00:50:50,320 –> 00:50:54,280
An Israelitis worshipper.
In her marriage with Ahab she

788
00:50:54,280 –> 00:50:57,440
looked perhaps like a mother of
Israel, as a Queen of Israel.

789
00:50:58,280 –> 00:51:02,680
But she was from Tyre.
She was a Pagan to her heart and

790
00:51:02,680 –> 00:51:04,920
never had become like the true
Israel.

791
00:51:05,440 –> 00:51:10,240
But for a time she took on the
veneer of being a godly woman,

792
00:51:10,800 –> 00:51:14,000
of having something to do with
the true, when in fact at the

793
00:51:14,000 –> 00:51:17,760
heart she was a Pagan.
What do we see with this lamb

794
00:51:17,760 –> 00:51:24,160
figure in Revelation 13?
The heart of the animal is a

795
00:51:24,160 –> 00:51:28,520
Pagan.
It’s the dragon, but outwardly

796
00:51:29,280 –> 00:51:31,680
the sea beast.
Excuse me, the earth beast looks

797
00:51:31,680 –> 00:51:33,800
like a lamb.
What about?

798
00:51:33,800 –> 00:51:36,240
Jezebel.
She’s a prophetess.

799
00:51:36,680 –> 00:51:39,800
She looks like and poses as
though she’s got the credentials

800
00:51:39,800 –> 00:51:45,240
of a spokesman for God.
But her teaching, what comes out

801
00:51:45,240 –> 00:51:48,760
of her mouth, That’s the test.
What does she say?

802
00:51:49,080 –> 00:51:51,840
What’s her doctrine?
It is seduction.

803
00:51:52,840 –> 00:51:55,720
What is really her heart’s
desire and ambition?

804
00:51:55,920 –> 00:52:00,800
It is idolatry, you see then.
The descriptions of Jezebel

805
00:52:00,920 –> 00:52:05,840
match the same kind of
scriptural associations given to

806
00:52:05,840 –> 00:52:09,000
the sea beast and the earth
beast, especially the earth

807
00:52:09,000 –> 00:52:12,480
beast.
There is the first reference to

808
00:52:12,480 –> 00:52:16,520
a harlot figure in the Book of
Revelation, and it’s connected

809
00:52:16,520 –> 00:52:21,440
with Tyre and Jezebel, the
harlot figure we suggest then in

810
00:52:21,440 –> 00:52:25,640
Revelation 17.
This whore isn’t like an

811
00:52:25,640 –> 00:52:28,720
Israelitis whore in the prophets
and in the Old Testament.

812
00:52:29,480 –> 00:52:30,440
Rather.
This.

813
00:52:30,440 –> 00:52:32,320
Whore.
Is like a Jezebel.

814
00:52:33,800 –> 00:52:39,160
And the connection in verse five
of Revelation 7 and verse 17 and

815
00:52:39,160 –> 00:52:42,320
verse five with the reference to
Jezebel and the kings as the

816
00:52:42,320 –> 00:52:46,720
mother of harlots or a mother
associated with harlotry, Then

817
00:52:46,720 –> 00:52:50,040
the first reference in turn to
Jezebel in the Book of

818
00:52:50,040 –> 00:52:53,760
Revelation defining what
Revelation associates with that

819
00:52:53,760 –> 00:52:57,280
hard figure, we believe, puts us
on an entirely different

820
00:52:57,280 –> 00:53:01,120
direction than some of our more
recent expositors in their

821
00:53:01,120 –> 00:53:03,720
identification of this harlot
and this beast.

822
00:53:05,520 –> 00:53:08,440
This does bring us to
connections with Tyre.

823
00:53:09,880 –> 00:53:11,960
Now, upon a little bit of
reflection from the work we’ve

824
00:53:11,960 –> 00:53:14,840
done on the man of sin, that’s
highly significant for another

825
00:53:14,840 –> 00:53:17,240
reason.
Do you remember that shark we

826
00:53:17,240 –> 00:53:20,920
have in your book where we laid
out for you the connections in

827
00:53:20,920 –> 00:53:24,080
the man of sin prophecy with
Isaiah, with Ezekiel, with

828
00:53:24,080 –> 00:53:27,960
Daniel 7 and Daniel 11, where
they were all man figures until

829
00:53:27,960 –> 00:53:30,160
we got to Zechariah 5 with a
woman figure?

830
00:53:30,160 –> 00:53:34,960
Do you remember how we pointed
out that in the first two

831
00:53:34,960 –> 00:53:39,080
references, Isaiah 14 and
Ezekiel 28 were introduced to

832
00:53:39,080 –> 00:53:43,360
Lucifer of Babylon and to the
Prince of Tyre, Tyre and

833
00:53:43,360 –> 00:53:45,160
Babylon?
As.

834
00:53:45,160 –> 00:53:48,600
Old Testament sources for the
descriptions given to the man of

835
00:53:48,600 –> 00:53:53,360
Sin, Tyre and Babylon.
And here we discover in

836
00:53:53,360 –> 00:53:58,120
Revelation chapter 17 that this
hardest figure is a kind of

837
00:53:58,120 –> 00:54:02,120
Jezebel, and she’s connected
with Tyre.

838
00:54:02,840 –> 00:54:06,360
More than that, as you go down
through your marginal references

839
00:54:06,360 –> 00:54:10,080
all the way from Revelation 17
to 18, you’ll find that the

840
00:54:10,080 –> 00:54:13,520
descriptions of this whore and
the descriptions of the city

841
00:54:13,520 –> 00:54:18,040
that falls are drawn from 2 main
scriptural sources.

842
00:54:18,880 –> 00:54:21,920
The prophets that deal with the
fall of Babylon and the

843
00:54:21,920 –> 00:54:24,880
prophecies that deal with the
fall and the pomp of Tyre.

844
00:54:25,360 –> 00:54:29,440
In fact, in pursuing chapter 17
and 18 in your margin, if you

845
00:54:29,440 –> 00:54:33,320
color-coded them, you would
discover that in the end there’s

846
00:54:33,320 –> 00:54:37,360
1 1/2 times more references to
Tyre than there is to Babylon.

847
00:54:38,680 –> 00:54:41,920
More references to Ezekiel and
Isaiah in their prophecies

848
00:54:41,920 –> 00:54:45,800
dealing with Tyre, then those
prophecies like Jeremiah 51 that

849
00:54:45,800 –> 00:54:50,240
refer to Babylon of old.
There is in fact a preponderance

850
00:54:50,240 –> 00:54:55,800
of references to Tyre, Tyre and
Babylon here in the beast

851
00:54:55,800 –> 00:54:58,400
system.
Tyre and Babylon with a man of

852
00:54:58,400 –> 00:55:01,000
sin.
Once again, the bridges are made

853
00:55:01,000 –> 00:55:03,880
back and forth across.
From those two key scriptural

854
00:55:03,880 –> 00:55:06,960
sources as they relate to the
Beast.

855
00:55:06,960 –> 00:55:10,520
System and to the development of
this apostate system and figure.

856
00:55:11,840 –> 00:55:15,240
And we remind ourselves in
Revelation 13 that the mouth of

857
00:55:15,240 –> 00:55:17,040
the sea beast was the mouth of a
lion.

858
00:55:18,320 –> 00:55:20,880
And we know from the connections
with Daniel’s beast that that

859
00:55:20,880 –> 00:55:25,960
lion was a babylonious lion, and
therefore the sea beast had a

860
00:55:25,960 –> 00:55:30,040
babylonish mouth.
It has a babylonish mouth.

861
00:55:31,000 –> 00:55:33,600
And lo and behold, when this
woman comes out on a scarred

862
00:55:33,600 –> 00:55:37,800
colored beast, she too, like the
man of sin, is associated with

863
00:55:37,800 –> 00:55:41,080
mystery.
She also like the beasts of

864
00:55:41,080 –> 00:55:47,240
Daniel and like the sea beast of
Revelation 13 and verse one is

865
00:55:47,240 –> 00:55:52,200
connected with Babylon.
She too, like the persecuting

866
00:55:52,200 –> 00:55:55,760
4th beast of Daniel 7,
persecutes the Saints.

867
00:55:55,760 –> 00:56:01,400
It’s apparent in Revelation 17
and verse six she is drunk with

868
00:56:01,400 –> 00:56:04,840
the blood of the Saints.
Exactly the same thing that was

869
00:56:04,840 –> 00:56:06,560
true.
Of the little horn.

870
00:56:06,760 –> 00:56:10,440
With the Witch with the beast,
the 4th beast of Daniel 7 wears

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out the Saints and persecutes
them.

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Finally, I’d like to look in
conclusion and another rather

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interesting time in with Daniel.
It’s to do with the time period

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in the Book of Revelation.
Time periods, I know, tend to

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stare us a little bit, but
without trying to work out

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whether it’s days or years right
now.

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And without.
Trying to be positive as to all

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the associations with these time
periods, let’s just notice the

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following.
I can just get all of this on

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the screen.
Revelation Chapter 11, verse 2.

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Says that the.
Holy City will be trodden by the

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Gentiles.
For. 42 months, then in

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Revelation 11 in the very next.
Verse verse 3.

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The two witnesses are said to be
free to prophecy.

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For. 1260 days.
That’s interesting because in

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fact these two are somewhat
related. 42 months is 1260 days

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00:57:22,200 –> 00:57:24,920
on the basis of a 30 day month
which was the lunar calendar.

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Used by Israel chapter. 12 then
and verse 6 and verse 14 gives

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us two more time periods and
they both refer to the woman as

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she is preserved for a period of
time in the wilderness.

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First in Revelation 12 and six,
it’s expressed as time times and

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half time times and half a time.
Then in verse 14 it’s expressed

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as 1260.
Now there’s the clincher the

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1260 and the times, times and
half a time are one in the same

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period. 3 1/2 years is the same
as 42 months, and it’s the same

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thing as 12160 days.
Then in chapter 13 with the

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BEAST system.
That comes out of the waters.

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The power of the sea beast to
wage war against the Saints is

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42 months now.
Isn’t that interesting?

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Go back to Chapter 11 where we
have the.

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Holy city trodden down by the
Gentile, persecuted for 42

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00:58:27,200 –> 00:58:30,200
months.
In the Beast system of 13 and

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00:58:30,200 –> 00:58:35,920
five, the same expression is
used 42 months, describing the

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time in which the Sea beast can
wage war against the Saints.

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There’s a link.
The Holy City of Revelation 11

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and the Saints are one of the
same in 13 and five.

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The Gentiles that trod down the
Holy City must in some.

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00:58:52,040 –> 00:58:56,640
Way be linked to the sea beast
furthermore.

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Within Chapter 11, verse three
says the witnesses are free to

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prophecy for 1260 days.
And isn’t it interesting that

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the woman is allowed to have
asylum in the wilderness for

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00:59:11,600 –> 00:59:12,960
12160 days?