Ben Brinkerhoff – Class 2: Battling False Doctrine in Ephesus

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This is day, two of the 2019.
Idlewild Bible School.

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Our second period teacher is
brother.

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Ben Brinckerhoff is General
topic is unity and Ephesus the

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story of the Ecclesia.
In Ephesus, today’s topic is

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battling false Doctrine and
Ephesus for the red.

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Good morning.
My beloved brothers and sisters.

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I I find it helpful to summarize
the last class at the start of

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the next one.
Just so there’s a little bit of

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continuity and we conclude our
last class by looking just

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briefly at a verse from Timothy
about Doctrine.

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And you might recall it, the
verse was first Timothy 4:16

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where Paul is exhorting, Timothy
and saying, take heed unto

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thyself.
And unto the doctrine.

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Continue in them for, in doing
this.

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Thou shalt both save thyself and
them that hear thee.

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And I quoted this to put a final
point on how important Doctrine

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really is.
I tried to point out two simple

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truths right by way of summary
to simple truths and our last

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session together.
The first is that we have no

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basis for Unity.
Unless you also have a basis for

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separation.
The second truth was.

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If that base is the gospel.
They understand it to be a

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matter of life and death. we’re
unified as a body of Christ, and

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so far, as we also separate from
those who do not hold the same

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basis of that Unity, And these
two Foundation planks of the

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Gospel were shown to us in Acts
chapters 18 and 19 and the first

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was the name of the Lord Jesus
Christ.

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To which Apollo send the
Apostles of John Disciples of

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John both the seated and by
which they enjoyed Unity with

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the Brethren and Ephesus.
And the second point of the

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Gospel was the kingdom of God
for which cause Paul separated

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the Ecclesia from the Jews upon
hearing the doctrine, smoking

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evil of in the synagogue.
But it wasn’t by accident that

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we’ve in.
Finished yesterday by coding

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from 1st Timothy.
See you isn’t.

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It was Timothy who Paul left in
Ephesus as a young leader?

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After he departed, there’s
always disputes about

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chronologies.
I’m not particularly interested

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in them.
I’ve looked at all of them.

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This is, I think the best
representation that I can make

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of, some of the key dates that
are happening for us here.

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But what I want to point out is
that Paul is in Ephesus around,

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80 57, he’s there for about
three years.

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He’s arrested upon the start of
his fourth missionary journey

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and during that time in Rome I
believe he writes Ephesians

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Philippians Colossians and
Philemon.

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Paul is then released from
prison in Rome, this is after

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the time of Acts has concluded
and then sometime after that I’m

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guessing around ad 66 Paul
writes First.

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Timothy and Titus Surely there
after he’s arrested and he

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writes, second Timothy.
The reason I point out that

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chronology is to tell you that
we’re going to go out of

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chronological order.
So really?

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Next thing we should be,
discussing is the book of

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Ephesians.
However, I find that the issue

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of Doctrine, whatever that issue
was that Paul says Listen.

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Hold to this because it’s going
to save you, and it’s going to

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save others.
Whatever that issue is of

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Doctrine, is much better Define
for us.

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In 1st Timothy, then it’s
defined in Ephesians.

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So I want uncover what that
controversy in the equation was

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because if we understand it,
then we can look back at a

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fusions written, maybe four
years earlier and see how this

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thing is being discussed then.
So if you’ll just give me that

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patients, let’s go out of
chronological order.

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Let’s go.
Then to First, Timothy I also

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want to make one thing clear
about this session today.

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This session is going to contain
perhaps more than most sessions.

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Some Exposition because we’re
trying to understand what this

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doctrinal controversy was.
Happening in Ephesus and in the

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collages of Asia and it’s going
to form a foundation upon which

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we can then make more
educational classes later on in

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this week.
So if you’ll just bear me a

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little bit of patience today
with the exposition and this

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study I hope you still find
interesting.

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I know my dad will there’s a lot
of history involved and other

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boring things that we both find
interesting.

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So so let’s thin turn over to
First Timothy.

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And we’re to look at verses 1, 2
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Where the book opens this way?
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ

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by the Commandment of God, our
savior and the Lord Jesus

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Christ, which is Our Hope on to
Timothy my own son in the faith,

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grace, mercy and peace from God,
our Father and Jesus Christ.

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Our Lord, as I besought Thee, To
abide still at Ephesus, when I

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went into Macedonia, that thou
mightest charge some that they

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teach no other Doctrine.
So at the very beginning of this

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letter, Paul lays out that the
main thing happening for which

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Paul needs to talk to Timothy
about, is there some variety of

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warning about false doctrine?
That is arising within that

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Ecclesia?
And it’s for this reason I think

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in Timothy, the idea of Doctrine
is mentioned so often in fact, I

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don’t know if you’re interested
in Coloring, things like this in

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but you might want to color this
one in or write a little note in

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Timothy because it comes up
quite often.

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First Timothy chapter 1 verse 3
which we looked and verse 10 4:6

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13 and 16. 5:17 chapter 6, verse
1 and verse 3, that’s 8 times in

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six chapters So Paul knew that
he needed to encourage Timothy

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because some issue of false
Doctrine was arising.

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Now, my question to you and my
question for the study is what

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was that issue?
What was the issue of false

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Doctrine happening in that
occlusion?

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Maybe, you know?
But if you don’t know that,

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maybe there’s a question to
wrestle with and see if we can

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find some resolution with in
this class today.

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Now, Paul knew that that false
Doctrine would arise in the

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equation, he absolutely knew it.
In fact, he warned the Ecclesia

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of it.
Inverses, I’m sure you’re

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familiar with when Paul calls
the Elders of Ephesus down into

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Meletis on his way back to carry
the Jerusalem.

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Poor fun to, you know, back to
Jerusalem.

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At the end of the third
missionary journey, he calls the

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elders in the latest, and he
gives them a warning and, and

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some verses taken out of the
midst of that warning are found

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in Acts chapter 20 verses 28 to
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We read there, take heed,
therefore unto yourselves.

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And to all the flock over, which
the Holy Spirit hath made you

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overseers to lead the Ecclesia
of God, which he hath purchased

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with his own blood for.
I know this that after my

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departing shall Grievous.
Wolves, enter in among you not

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sparing.
The flock also of your own

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selves shall men.
Arise speaking perverse, things

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to draw away disciples after
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Now why would she now excuse me?
Why would Paul use the metaphor

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of the wolf, right?
Probably, I’m sure you’re

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thinking in your mind right now,
probably in a reference, back to

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The Sermon on the Mount.
And Matthew chapter 7 and verse

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15, where Jesus said this about
that same metaphor, beware of

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false prophets, which shall come
to you in sheep’s clothing, but

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inwardly, they are ravening
wolves, right?

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So I use the metaphor of wolves.
I’m probably speaking about

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false prophets.
In fact, Paul.

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Amongst yourselves within this
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Within this very people here,
there are going to come some

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that draw people after
themselves, you know.

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And how often is that actually
create the source of disunity in

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a cliches?
You know, that that what happens

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is a brother has a point.
And and some people agree to the

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point and then and then and then
he gets a bit of a falling about

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his point and then and then he
raises the point up at the level

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of a collegial discussion.
Ian’s maybe throws a bomb into

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the business meeting.
You know, has anyone seen I’ve

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done that, you know, you know II
still apologize, the San Diego

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Ecclesia, they still have the
some consequences of that.

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So so the reality is, you know,
you because you want it, you

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want a reputation, you want a
following.

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There’s a pride issue here.
What’s Paul saying that Grievous

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wolves false prophets are going
to come in among you and are not

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going to spare the flock.
Okay, well, he talks about.

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Then speaking perverse, things
in that word perverse, their

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means to corrupt.
So something that was pure is

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going to be made corrupt in
their teaching.

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Okay.
Now what is it?

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That’s our question.
What is it?

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We’re told it was going to
happen.

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Paul knew was going to happen.
He’s in, he’s writing Timothy to

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discuss it because it has
happened, but my question is,

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what is it?
So turning over to Timothy

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first, Timothy Chapter 1 Verse
18.

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We pick up our first two Clues
regarding what this false

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Doctrine is We read their verses
18 to 20.

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This charge.
I commit into thee, son,

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Timothy, according to the
prophecies, which once before on

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thee, that thou by them mightest
War, a good Warfare holding

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faith and good conscience, which
some having put away concerning

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Faith have made shipwreck.
Of whom is hymenaeus and

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Alexander whom.
I have delivered unto Satan,

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that they may not learn.
They may learn not to blaspheme.

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So, so it appears that Paul puts
these two out of the meeting.

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It’s very likely, but not
certain that.

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What delivered unto Satan means
is that they were disfellowship.

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We might use that word
disfellowshipped today.

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This is maybe how Paul was
phrasing it or or giving it a

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term in that day and age.
But why were these two

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disfellowshipped?
Well, our first two Clues, our

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this Firstly that they put away
conscience.

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Concerning faith.
And secondly, that they

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blasphemed, it’s put away
conscience concerning faith.

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And that they blast named.
So what wrong Doctrine than were

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Alexander and hymenaeus teaching
that was caused to blaspheme?

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And why did it cause him to lose
conscience.

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Well consider some of the
evidence first direct evidence.

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Fortunately for Paul were given
the name hymenaeus and now

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that’s a name we can trace
through scripture.

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In fact Amadeus comes up again
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Verses 1618.
So let’s do a pause to say about

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hymenaeus thin and see, we can
pick up some more clues.

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What does Paul say about
hymenaeus?

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And second Timothy Chapter 2,
verses 16 to 18, we read there

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but shun profane and vain
babblings for, they will

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increase unto more ungodliness
and their word will eat as doth

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a canker in whom is hymenaeus
and philetus.

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Who concerning the truth have
aired.

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Saying that the resurrection is
passed already and overthrow the

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faith of some so we pick up
three more clues here about what

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this doctrinal controversy was
happening in Ephesus.

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Okay, these are the clues.
Firstly, they obviously taught

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that the resurrection was passed
already.

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Next is that this false Doctrine
led directly to ungodliness And

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our last clue is this false
Doctrine, is called vain

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babblings, which is another way
of saying empty talk.

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So why was the doctrine called
Vain babblings and what does

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that the do with the
Resurrection being passed

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already?
And what does this have to do

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anything with putting you a
conscience or blasphemy or

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ungodliness for that matter?
So what if, so how do we peace?

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All these different Clues
together.

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We got like the puzzle pieces,
right?

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But we don’t know how to fit it
together yet and to form the

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picture that we’re trying to
look at.

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Sir, turn back over to First
Timothy.

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And let’s take a look at chapter
6 in verses 20 to 21.

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We have another significant clue
to bring to bear on this

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particular puzzle.
Fact, perhaps the key clue.

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So 1st, Timothy Chapter, 6, thin
and verses 20 to 21 where we get

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our last clue to the puzzle.
Paul says, Oh, Timothy.

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Keep that which is committed to
thy Trust.

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Avoid profane and vain
babblings.

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And opposition’s of science.
Falsely so-called which some

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professing at aired concerning
the faith.

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Well, that’s interesting,
opposition’s of science.

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Falsely so-called you guys may
know this but science is simply

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the Latin word for knowledge.
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is actually the word that Paul
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gnosis.
Now notice this means knowledge

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or more.
Broadly, speaking enlightenment.

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Or revelation.
I’m going to suggest to you that

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in Ephesus.
There’s a very important

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Doctrine issue surfacing
surrounding this word gnosis and

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unfortunately it’s an issue that
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This Theory day So Scholars,
including dr.

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Thomas call this perversion
gnosticism.

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It’s it’s like Christianity.
It defines a very, very wide

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variety of beliefs so you can’t
just pin the word nasik on

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something and say, well, this is
exactly what that is.

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It’s like defining the word
Christian on something.

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Well, GA could be Mormon or it
could be christadelphians, you

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know, I’m saying.
Like they would identify as

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Christians, right?
So, So it’s a represents a wide

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variety of beliefs and that’s
one of the things that are hard

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to get your head around.
So what exactly is Paul

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referring to here?
And what was this specific issue

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happening than in Ephesus?
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I’m gnostics believed that they
were saved by gaining a special,

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or secret knowledge and this
knowledge awakened their dead

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Souls To life.
Okay, they’re dead flesh was

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awakened by the special or
secret knowledge.

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Now, the best definition, I
could find in the truth of

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gnosticism comes from a book by
HP Mansfield in his commentary,

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on the letters of John.
And other man’s feel is

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suggesting that the Apostle John
was countering an early form of

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gnosticism in part as he wrote
his letters and explain

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gnosticism, brother Mansfield
quotes from the Encyclopedia

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Britannica and amongst other
sources.

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And this is his quote, About
narcissism. amongst the majority

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of the followers of the movement
gnosis Was understood as not

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meaning, knowledge or
understanding in our sense of

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the word.
But but revelation.

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These little Gnostic sects and
groups all lived in the

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conviction that they possess a
secret and mysterious knowledge.

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And no way accessible to those
outside and not based on

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reflection or scientific inquiry
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But on Revelation, it was
derived from the times of

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primitive Christianity and from
the Savior himself and his

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disciples and friends with whom
they claim to be connected by

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secret tradition or else from
waiter profits.

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Who many sects?
Boasted So why there are many

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variants of narcissism.
The term itself, doesn’t stand

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for very much in general.
I would say gnostics tend to

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agree on these three main core
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Number one is that all matter
was evil. principle number two,

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that we have an immaterial and
Immortal soul in which a form of

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divinity, dwelt hence, the
reason it was a mortal And which

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was there for good.
And three the Salvation was

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essentially about the righteous
or Immortal Soul, being awakened

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with knowledge and delivered
from the prison of the wicked

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and mortal flesh.
Maybe they have those three

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things in common Now nasik
believe about all matter being

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evil resulted in two main
theories.

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According to a doctor, Alfred
plumber an expert on narcissism

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that HP Mansfield quotes in his
exposition of First John.

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So there’s two different ways
that this belief manifested.

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Okay.
First If the human body is

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utterly evil, it must be subdued
and chased into the utmost that

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the spirit may be freed from the
burden of.

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So, vile and instruments.
This might be thing.

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I thought of as a seat is mm,
this was the issue that Paul was

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dealing with in colossi. but the
other idea is different, derived

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from the same set of of core
beliefs, Secondly, the human, if

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the human body is utterly, evil
is a matter of indifference.

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What it does.
And so worthless and vile and

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instruments may be made to
commit any act from which the

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real man might derive additional
experience and knowledge.

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And that was the issue.
The Paul was dealing with in

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Ephesians.
Now, the second of these two

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theories is elaborated, more
fully by Alfred Palmer again as

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quoted by Brother Mansfield.
Where we read, narcissism was

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not the open enemy of
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It professed to gift its
approval and patronage to the

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gospel.
The gospel was very good as far

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as it went, but gnostics had a
more excellent way.

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They understood the gospel
better than the apostles

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themselves, it was a mistake to
suppose that historical facts

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and mere precepts of scripture
where to be taken.

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Literally it was still greater
mistake to suppose that the

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scriptures contained all that
was necessary for man’s

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spiritual well-being.
There was a higher knowledge A

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more profound gnosis and this
the Gnostic would attain to and

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in part illumined by this men
would see that everything was

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comparatively of unimportance,
the philosopher whose mind was

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enlightened.
By this esoteric knowledge need

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not trouble himself much about
his conduct He was steeped in

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light.
Good actions.

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Could not seriously detract.
From an indeed, there are many

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things commonly regarded as bad.
Which the true Gnostic would not

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shunned, but seek as a means of
enlarging his experience.

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Now, to the Gnostic.
Who had this particular set of

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beliefs as defined by dr.
Climber Three main issues would

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arise.
Those issues are.

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Morality doesn’t matter.
righteousness was in no account

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in comparison, with intellectual
illumination Secondly.

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The god of scripture is no
Authority. scripture was of no

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account in comparison to with a
higher knowledge, which partly

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transmuted and partly,
superseded it, frankly, and it

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came down to a discussion
between the inner light and the

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guidance of my inner spirit and
was scripture said Scripture

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losses.
And the third issue that arises

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from this particular set of
beliefs is salvation cannot be

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lost.
So, the work of atonement was

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lessened in significance for
there, was not really evil and

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sin.
Okay.

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Now, this philosophy is actually
given a name in the Bible as it

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develops into later generations.
Does anyone know what it’s

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called?
It’s called Nicolaitans ism.

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Okay.
Because they believed that the

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soul was essentially Divine and
their bodies were evil

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Nicolaitans.
Apparently taught that there is

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nothing.
The body could do to corrupt the

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soul and since we’re saved by
grace and not works, There’s

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really no works that could take
away your salvation again.

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They literally put away
conscience.

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Concerning faith.
They didn’t need to feel bad

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about sinning.
Today, a similar ideas may be

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described by the concept.
Once saved, always saved.

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To which many Christians still
teach, at least directly the

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conclusion that I don’t need to
follow any law.

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Especially not the moral
precepts found in the law of

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Moses because laws can save in
the soul is Immortal and

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regardless, hens Nicolet to
gnostics Use these ideas to

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justify Godless, immoral Lawless
and debauched wife styles.

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So, what was the origin then?
I mean, where do they get these

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ideas from?
Where is the origin of these

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Gnostic ideas?
Well, you wouldn’t be surprised

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to find out that they derive
from Greek philosophy.

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Would you?
Which is why Paul uses the word

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vain babblings, I mean, think of
philosophers sitting around

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talking about nothing more than
ideas and Concepts which have no

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life and have no value and
they’re arguing with them and

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their babbling and babble Babble
Babble this way bable bable

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bable that way and it’s all
Vain.

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And so Paul describes this idea
as a vain babblings, a quote on

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gnosticism from the dictionary,
illustrates the Greek

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philosophical foundations.
The earliest origins of

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gnosticism our skewer and still
disputed probable, influences

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include Plato.
Gnostics borrow a great deal of

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ideas and terms from platonism.
They exhibit a keen

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understanding of, Greek
philosophical terms and use

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Greek philosophical Concepts
throughout their texts.

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Now we can be sure that.
Gnostic ideas, we’re starting to

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pervade the Ecclesia in Ephesus
particularly so turn with me to

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Revelation chapter 2.
Just as a case we have any doubt

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in our mind whatsoever that some
of these ideas were prevalent

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and being taught in that City.
We should have no controversy or

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confusion about that because the
Lord Jesus Christ in his letter

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to the Ephesians found in
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Chapter 2 makes mention of the
fact we see this in Revelation

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chapter 2 verse 1 unto the angel
of the Church of Ephesus write

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for six but thou Hast.
Just but this style has that

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thou hatest the Deeds of the
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So what was happening is the
Ecclesia at some point in its

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history, had to make a stand
against these particular

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philosophers who were teaching
these ideas and the Lord Jesus

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commends them.
That the those in the equation

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had made a stand.
And so we realize you won’t have

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to make a stand if the issue is
a rising And is prevalent in the

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city itself.
Now, it’s not simply brother

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Mansfield and makes reference to
this in christadelphians

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literature in Eureka concerning
Nicolaitans.

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Now maybe make one comment about
Eureka.

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Well, I just have an opportunity
to say your ego is always a

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book.
I was someone intimidated by my

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grandfather.
Dick Stone used to tell me if he

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told me once he told me a dozen
times.

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Then you need to read the
pioneers.

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Well he it was a real point of
him to emphasize that to me, but

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I put off Eureka because it just
seemed well to seem intimidating

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I suppose.
And in studying this subject I,

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of course, went to what brother
Thomas has to say on the

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Ecclesia and Ephesus.
And I was I don’t know the right

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word to use is I was incredibly
impressed.

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With what brother Thomas had to
say it’s as if he laid out the

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whole study and about four
pages, what I’d spend months and

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months and months, trying to
uncover.

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He had it all there as an aside.
yeah, so this is what brother

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Thomas had to say in Eureka,
Talking about the Nicolaitans

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this was composed of the Wolves.
Now that’s a reference back to

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Acts 20 that we looked at
earlier.

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This was composed of the Wolves
referred to in Paul’s first

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letter to Timothy 6:20 which we
also just looked at where Paul

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says to Timothy o Timothy keep
that which is committed to thy

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trust.
Avoid profane Vain babblings and

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opposition’s of gnosis Or
knowledge falsely so-called,

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which some professing have erred
concerning the faith, these came

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to be called gnostics because of
their professing, what they call

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gnosis or knowledge, a false
science, whose principles were

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subversive to the truth brother.
Thomas says now brother Thomas

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also suggests that these ideas
were founded on Greek

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philosophy, he says this on
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These gnostics were sort of
immersed or baptised

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philosophers.
Gentile, professors of the

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wisdom then current in the world
among the admirers of Play-Doh

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and other Heathen.
Speculators upon the unknown.

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They conceived the idea of so
commingling their speculations

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or fables of heathenism.
With the doctrine of the

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Apostles asked to make the
compound palatable to the

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respectability and the learning
of the age.

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He has much more to say it’s
well worth reading that section

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of Eureka.
Now it’s pretty clear that

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hymenaeus who Paul mentions in
both first and in second Timothy

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thus someone certainly from
Ephesus write had Gnostic like

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views again.
Let’s read from our clue earlier

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second.
Timothy Chapter 2 and see if we

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can figure out what Paul is
talking about there.

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We read this earlier.
But three, two, one more time.

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Second Timothy Chapter 2 and
verses 16 to 18.

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Where Paul writes but shun
profane and vain babblings for

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they will increase unto more
ungodliness that makes sense to

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us.
Now, you follow that means why

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these profane babblings were
waiting to more ungodliness,

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okay?
And their word will eat as doth,

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a canker of whom is hymenaeus
and philetus.

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Who concerning the truth of
aired saying, the resurrection

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00:30:13,700 –> 00:30:18,600
is passed already and overthrow
the faith of some um, so why

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00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:20,700
does this quote suggest Gnostic
beliefs?

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00:30:22,400 –> 00:30:25,700
Well, gnostics deny the
resurrection that’s a big clue

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00:30:26,500 –> 00:30:29,700
and you ask yourself while we
know for certain that the

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apostles and Jesus taught.
The resurrection.

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I’m that is that it comes boldly
jumps out of the pages of the

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New Testament that there can’t
be any controversy about that

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point.
How could they deny the

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resurrection?
Well.

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Simple.
They taught the resurrection was

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spiritual.
The resurrection according to

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them.
And this is backed up by text.

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They found in nod, commodity
there’s a something there called

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the Treatise on the
resurrections, written a couple

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hundred years.
After this time, we’re talking

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about here.
But nevertheless it what they

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talk about is that the
resurrection was the

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resurrecting of the spirit
within me that was dead.

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To life.
My Flesh and my soul, and my

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00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:24,900
spirit was dead, but because of
this special knowledge that I

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have, now now it’s resurrected
into life.

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And so then for the believer who
had already had this knowledge,

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the resurrection for that
person.

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Was already passed.
Remember the gnosticism taught

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that the body itself and all
material, substances sinful?

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And the soul is trapped in the
body.

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So the whole point of faith in
the whole point of the idea is

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to escape the prison of the
body.

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And if the whole point is
Escape, the Prison of the body,

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then the idea then of being
resurrected back into a physical

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body.
Is a really unacceptable idea.

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If the whole idea is to escape
the body is to get out of the

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body is too for the soul to
leave the body because the soul

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is, is Immortal, then why in the
world would it make any sense at

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all?
To be resurrected back into a

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00:32:34,800 –> 00:32:40,700
physical material body.
That seems like a dumb idea.

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That does not seem like their
idea of salvation.

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00:32:45,500 –> 00:32:48,400
And so they spiritualize the
entire concept.

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Despite this, where Paul takes
the gnostics mosta task, by the

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way, I could very well, be the
first Corinthians chapter 15.

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Is a response to this belief in
corns.

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00:33:11,500 –> 00:33:15,100
As an Assad.
But despite this where Paul

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takes the gnostics most to task
is over the immorality of their

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lifestyles.
Now in writing about Paul’s not

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they want to do that and writing
about the gnostics in the second

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00:33:27,700 –> 00:33:32,300
century and early church father
named irenaeus. so, the

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00:33:32,300 –> 00:33:36,900
Nicolaitans this is his
description, the Nicolaitans or

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Aeneas.
Nicolaitans weed wives of

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00:33:41,800 –> 00:33:46,800
unrestrained indulgence.
That was his summary of the

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00:33:46,808 –> 00:33:50,100
Nicolaitans so gnostics and
Nicolaitans in particular

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00:33:50,300 –> 00:33:54,700
rejected laws and moral laws
concerning others created by

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00:33:54,700 –> 00:33:57,500
others.
Morality was for them to

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determine and not anyone else.
And this is why Paul says

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concerning hymenaeus.
Back in second Timothy chapter 2

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verse 16.
But shun profane and vain

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00:34:10,800 –> 00:34:13,900
babblings for they will increase
unto more ungodliness.

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00:34:14,400 –> 00:34:16,300
Okay.
So, are these words starting to

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00:34:16,300 –> 00:34:18,400
make sense?
Now, can we see them on the

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00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:19,800
page?
And they’re not just words.

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00:34:19,800 –> 00:34:24,699
Like now, we had some ideas to
fit those words around that this

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00:34:24,699 –> 00:34:27,500
is what was being dealt with.
This is what had to be dealt

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00:34:27,500 –> 00:34:32,800
with by Paul.
It’s for this reason that Paul

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put such an emphasis on
godliness.

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And if first second first letter
to Timothy, I don’t know if

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you’ve ever noticed this or ever
had a reason to cover this in

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00:34:42,000 –> 00:34:45,699
but but I pointed out that the
word Doctrine comes up often in

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00:34:45,707 –> 00:34:49,699
1st Timothy well, another word
that comes up often in first

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00:34:49,699 –> 00:34:54,100
Timothy, is this word Godly or
godliness, right?

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00:34:54,699 –> 00:34:58,800
It comes up.
Several times, first Timothy

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00:34:58,800 –> 00:35:05,300
chapter, 14, to 22 10, 316 for
seven and eight six, three, five

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00:35:05,300 –> 00:35:07,900
and 11.
And again, if you’re the kind of

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person that likes color in
things, in this might be a word

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00:35:10,300 –> 00:35:13,300
to kind of color in.
As you look at Timothy, just to

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00:35:13,300 –> 00:35:16,800
remind yourself that this is a
major theme that is developing

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00:35:16,800 –> 00:35:24,300
in that book.
So hymenaeus and his fellows did

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00:35:24,300 –> 00:35:27,200
not consent a wholesome words or
to sound Doctrine.

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00:35:28,600 –> 00:35:31,700
Order the doctrine that was
according to Godliness and and

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00:35:31,700 –> 00:35:34,600
we can link any number of
doctrines today back to this

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00:35:34,600 –> 00:35:36,300
Gnostic.
Thinking fact, this is one of

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00:35:36,308 –> 00:35:39,500
the major themes of dr.
Thomas in Eureka, is the link,

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00:35:39,500 –> 00:35:42,800
modern-day Christian practices,
back to these early

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00:35:42,800 –> 00:35:45,300
controversies.
He spins quite some time doing

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00:35:45,300 –> 00:35:48,000
that.
For example.

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00:35:50,000 –> 00:35:53,200
They believe in a mortality of
the soul and Paul counters that

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00:35:53,500 –> 00:35:58,000
in first Timothy chapter 6.
Verse 16 when Paul says God

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00:35:58,000 –> 00:36:03,300
Alone path.
Immortality, why do you think he

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00:36:03,300 –> 00:36:07,600
has to say that?
So Paul is countering some of

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00:36:07,600 –> 00:36:12,000
these ideas in his writing.
He also in Titus Chapter 1,

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00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:14,500
Verse 2 and 3 verse 7, Titus has
written a ride around the same

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00:36:14,500 –> 00:36:17,800
time as first Timothy, how about
the belief that the soul was

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00:36:17,800 –> 00:36:19,400
good and it’s the devil that
makes me sing.

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00:36:19,400 –> 00:36:23,200
Well Paul counters that ID and
First Timothy 6:10 and second

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00:36:23,200 –> 00:36:29,200
Timothy chapter 3 verses 2 to 5.
How about the belief that we are

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00:36:29,200 –> 00:36:32,000
once saved always saved by Paul
counters that ID and First

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00:36:32,000 –> 00:36:37,200
Timothy 4:16.
How about a rejection of the

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00:36:37,200 –> 00:36:39,900
moral authority of the law of
Moses?

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00:36:39,900 –> 00:36:43,600
Well, Paul counters that idea in
1st Timothy 1:8.

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00:36:45,800 –> 00:36:48,100
How about the idea that
rejection of the hope of Israel

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00:36:48,100 –> 00:36:50,700
and the restoration restoration
of the physical kingdom of God

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00:36:50,700 –> 00:36:52,300
on Earth.
Well Paul counters that in

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00:36:52,300 –> 00:36:55,700
second Timothy Chapter 4, verses
2 and verse 8.

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00:36:56,600 –> 00:36:59,300
How about the idea the
resurrection of the rejection of

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00:36:59,300 –> 00:37:01,900
the Resurrection In the Flesh?
Will Paul counters that as we

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00:37:01,900 –> 00:37:05,100
saw in second Timothy Chapter 2,
Verse 18.

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00:37:05,100 –> 00:37:11,500
So so Paul is actually taking up
These false beliefs in this

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00:37:11,500 –> 00:37:15,000
letter and is systematically
dealing with him.

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00:37:15,000 –> 00:37:17,600
And actually once you know what,
he’s dealing with you can see

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00:37:17,600 –> 00:37:19,200
these things.
Jump off the page.

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00:37:19,300 –> 00:37:21,800
That’s why he says that.
That’s why he says this, that’s

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00:37:21,800 –> 00:37:28,200
why he says that he’s
encouraging Timothy to correct,

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00:37:28,700 –> 00:37:32,100
the false Doctrine, hold on to
sound Doctrine and that Ecclesia

553
00:37:33,400 –> 00:37:36,200
and think about the profound
impact of Gnostic thinking on

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00:37:36,200 –> 00:37:40,300
the Ecclesia, That this would
happen and how desperate Paul

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00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:43,600
would have been to repeal this
and to reject this.

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00:37:46,100 –> 00:37:50,200
So, we can conclude that that
whatever hymenaeus believed.

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00:37:51,100 –> 00:37:55,200
He was in some way, trying to
combine the ideas of Plato and

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00:37:55,200 –> 00:37:59,200
the Greeks and other Gentile
philosophies and put them into a

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00:37:59,200 –> 00:38:03,500
Jewish and Christian context.
While also ironically if you re

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00:38:03,500 –> 00:38:07,300
closely positioning himself as
an expert in the law of Moses,

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00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:11,200
despite keeping none of us moral
precepts.

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00:38:12,000 –> 00:38:15,800
It’s a strange Unity to be sure
that hymenaeus was propounding

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00:38:16,500 –> 00:38:21,900
in Ephesus.
But let’s consider just for a

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00:38:21,908 –> 00:38:27,700
moment, the doctrine of unity.
Ponder for a moment, how

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00:38:27,700 –> 00:38:29,500
relevant Doctrine is to
practice.

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00:38:33,700 –> 00:38:37,300
The doctrine of many churches
concerning the atonement is

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00:38:37,300 –> 00:38:39,300
basically Gnostic and its
conclusions.

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00:38:40,500 –> 00:38:43,000
Okay, because Jesus did not
share my nature.

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He could not, he only could have
died because he took my personal

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00:38:48,800 –> 00:38:52,500
sin upon himself on the cross.
Then what need do I have?

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00:38:52,500 –> 00:38:59,000
Then for Morality?
I’ve been in good discussions.

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00:38:59,700 –> 00:39:03,800
Troubling discussions with
Christians who claim, no matter

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00:39:03,800 –> 00:39:06,100
what they do, no matter what
they do.

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00:39:06,100 –> 00:39:11,100
They can’t lose their salvation.
Some Christians would claim the

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00:39:11,100 –> 00:39:13,000
law of Moses has no relevance
today.

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00:39:13,100 –> 00:39:16,800
I why would you read that?
That’s old Old Testament.

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00:39:16,800 –> 00:39:21,300
Been old, you know, you don’t
need to read that anymore.

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00:39:32,200 –> 00:39:37,700
if we promote the principle of
unity, Does that mean we desire

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00:39:37,700 –> 00:39:43,600
Unity with gnostics like the
Nicolaitans as they later became

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00:39:43,600 –> 00:39:47,400
known?
Does the love of Jesus.

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00:39:49,800 –> 00:39:55,500
Overcome such obstacles.
Consider Jesus words in

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00:39:55,500 –> 00:39:58,500
Revelation.
Chapter 2 verse 15 in Revelation

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00:39:58,500 –> 00:40:05,300
Chapter 2 Verse 6 again, where
Jesus says this So thou Hast

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00:40:05,300 –> 00:40:10,600
also them that hold the doctrine
of the Nicolaitans.

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00:40:11,800 –> 00:40:19,500
Which thing I hate.
Revelation Chapter 2, Verse 6,

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00:40:20,400 –> 00:40:26,900
but this thou hast thou hatest
the Deeds of the Nicolaitans

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00:40:27,500 –> 00:40:36,300
which I also hate.
So why Jesus stops short as he

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00:40:36,300 –> 00:40:43,400
would of saying he hates them.
he certainly does say, That he

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00:40:43,400 –> 00:40:46,900
hates their Doctrine and he
hates the Deeds.

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00:40:49,800 –> 00:40:52,500
How does a shape your view
around Unity?

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00:40:57,900 –> 00:41:03,100
Can you have Unity?
With a Doctrine.

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00:41:03,100 –> 00:41:12,200
Jesus hates.
A system that excuses and

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00:41:12,200 –> 00:41:15,000
promotes.
Sin.

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00:41:19,500 –> 00:41:21,400
And that’s the relevant question
for us today.

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00:41:25,200 –> 00:41:30,200
I willing to defend the truth.
That Jesus Christ.

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00:41:30,200 –> 00:41:35,200
Delivered unto the Saints.
From false Doctrine the same

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00:41:35,200 –> 00:41:40,300
way.
Paul was Now, for Paul.

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00:41:41,800 –> 00:41:46,900
That meant putting some of the
leaders of this movement, like

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00:41:46,900 –> 00:41:50,200
hymenaeus.
Out of Fellowship.

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00:41:51,200 –> 00:41:54,500
It also meant appealing
directly.

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00:41:55,500 –> 00:41:58,700
To some of the followers of this
movement.

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00:41:59,000 –> 00:42:02,100
And we’re going to see that in
our next few studies.

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00:42:03,400 –> 00:42:06,700
So that he could bring them back
to the truth.

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00:42:09,600 –> 00:42:13,800
But it didn’t mean compromised
and regards to Doctrine or

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00:42:13,800 –> 00:42:18,500
practice of the truth.
So, let me just summarize.

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00:42:19,600 –> 00:42:24,200
Okay.
I want to draw some conclusions

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00:42:25,000 –> 00:42:27,500
about when we should or
shouldn’t unify.

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00:42:30,100 –> 00:42:34,700
Clearly Paul would not teach
Unity at all costs.

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00:42:36,500 –> 00:42:38,600
He did not preach Unity with the
wolves.

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00:42:39,900 –> 00:42:42,300
You don’t put the wolves in with
a sheep and say, hey, have some

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00:42:42,300 –> 00:42:49,300
Unity.
He put Alexander and hymenaeus

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00:42:49,300 –> 00:42:51,200
out of the meeting.
Now, why did he do that?

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00:42:52,600 –> 00:42:55,700
He did that because a false
Doctrine.

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00:42:56,500 –> 00:42:58,800
He did that because they were
tearing down occlusal

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00:42:58,800 –> 00:43:00,700
leadership.
He did that because they’re

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00:43:00,700 –> 00:43:03,200
creating disciples and leading
others astray.

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00:43:03,600 –> 00:43:06,500
He did that because there’s no
conscience regarding sin.

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00:43:06,800 –> 00:43:09,400
He did that because they’re
causing God to be blasphemed and

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the scriptures to be Dishonored.
We can’t have Unity with those

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00:43:16,600 –> 00:43:20,000
who destroy Unity.
We can’t have Unity with those

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that hold doctrine that Jesus
hates.

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00:43:25,300 –> 00:43:28,200
So Paul delivers these Brethren
to Satan.

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00:43:31,000 –> 00:43:33,300
But the truth is that Paul
didn’t disfellowshipped these

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00:43:33,300 –> 00:43:35,100
Brethren, they disfellowshipped
themselves.

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00:43:35,700 –> 00:43:38,300
They created the conditions in
which they were no longer in

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00:43:38,300 –> 00:43:43,600
Union with the Ecclesia and with
their true brethren in Ephesus.

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00:43:47,600 –> 00:43:53,800
How much time do I have Jeff?
It’s time, none.

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00:43:55,900 –> 00:44:00,900
Perfect, perfect.
Just just one comment, you know,

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00:44:03,000 –> 00:44:08,500
the reason that these Brethren
did this, I’m sure with sincere.

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00:44:10,700 –> 00:44:14,400
But there’s something more
subtle to it, as well.

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00:44:15,700 –> 00:44:19,400
And that to be was the real
excitation that I pulled out to

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00:44:19,408 –> 00:44:21,800
be on time.
Now I’m going to go over.

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00:44:25,100 –> 00:44:30,300
Says in Acts.
These brethren.

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00:44:31,500 –> 00:44:33,400
We’re like wolves in the
Ecclesia.

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00:44:36,000 –> 00:44:38,200
To gather disciples after
themselves.

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00:44:40,800 –> 00:44:44,000
And I reckon that that’s how it
starts present.

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00:44:46,100 –> 00:44:53,200
When issues of disunity come up.
It’s not merely an issue of, is

638
00:44:53,200 –> 00:44:59,100
this, or that or wrong Doctrine?
In a dispassionate sort of way.

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00:45:02,100 –> 00:45:06,700
It’s a Time representing people.
I’m the leader.

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00:45:10,100 –> 00:45:13,300
And so you can’t just simply
deal with the issue as the issue

641
00:45:13,300 –> 00:45:18,900
surfaces itself.
With a Bible open because you

642
00:45:18,900 –> 00:45:21,100
now you’re dealing with a
movement.

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And I’ve dealt with disunity and
just my, my short years in the

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00:45:31,300 –> 00:45:36,100
Ecclesia.
And when I’ve caused disunity,

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00:45:39,600 –> 00:45:43,700
I’ll have to admit that Pride.
Plays a very big part.

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00:45:46,100 –> 00:45:51,100
When I came back from Israel.
I was a member of the San Diego

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00:45:51,100 –> 00:45:56,900
meeting and and I, you know, I
thought I knew a thing or two,

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00:45:57,100 –> 00:46:00,300
right, especially because I was
in Israel and I know how to

649
00:46:00,300 –> 00:46:05,100
speak a bit of Hebrew, and I had
gone to, to do the feasts over

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00:46:05,100 –> 00:46:09,700
there.
So there came up a business

651
00:46:09,700 –> 00:46:18,800
meeting And I had been reading
about. how Jesus says in the

652
00:46:18,808 –> 00:46:25,200
Last Supper, That he desires to
have this Passover with him.

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00:46:25,200 –> 00:46:28,100
I said, well, it’s a Passover
and when I celebrate Passover in

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00:46:28,100 –> 00:46:32,100
Israel, we use crackers.
So, I at the business being, I

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00:46:32,107 –> 00:46:34,200
raise my hand, I said, why don’t
we use crackers?

656
00:46:36,200 –> 00:46:40,400
What was I thinking?
Why did I say that, right?

657
00:46:40,400 –> 00:46:42,600
And suddenly, it’s like a bomb
explodes, right?

658
00:46:42,600 –> 00:46:45,600
And that Summit we come is on
this side are saying well, that

659
00:46:45,600 –> 00:46:47,000
makes sense.
It’s number saying no, no, that

660
00:46:47,000 –> 00:46:49,400
doesn’t make sense.
And there’s Eleanor Amaral.

661
00:46:49,400 –> 00:46:51,200
Does anyone know Sister?
Eleanor Amaral?

662
00:46:51,300 –> 00:46:53,700
I love that sister.
And she’s right there.

663
00:46:53,700 –> 00:46:55,400
She’s saying and under her
breath.

664
00:46:55,400 –> 00:47:06,200
She’s saying, no, no, no.
She was a Jew, right?

665
00:47:07,700 –> 00:47:09,300
She said, no, he shared our
nature.

666
00:47:10,700 –> 00:47:12,500
No, she’s saying under her
breath.

667
00:47:14,800 –> 00:47:17,200
Did I think to myself?
Well gee this would be a good

668
00:47:17,200 –> 00:47:21,100
idea to Kota go off to Uncle Max
and just say, hey Max May, I was

669
00:47:21,100 –> 00:47:23,700
thinking about bringing this up,
maybe we can talk about together

670
00:47:23,700 –> 00:47:28,200
the two of us.
Because I wasn’t really

671
00:47:28,200 –> 00:47:31,400
interested.
In doing the right thing in

672
00:47:31,400 –> 00:47:33,900
terms of the Bread and Wine.
I’m a, I was totally wrong by

673
00:47:33,900 –> 00:47:37,100
the way and wrong in my
attitude, wrong decisions, wrong

674
00:47:37,100 –> 00:47:39,300
in terms of what the doctrine
was about.

675
00:47:39,300 –> 00:47:41,400
I didn’t understand anything
about the atonement.

676
00:47:41,500 –> 00:47:46,500
I was just wrong completely.
But it wasn’t about that.

677
00:47:48,200 –> 00:47:50,200
It’s I want to show.
I knew something.

678
00:47:52,000 –> 00:47:53,800
I want to show, I knew
something.

679
00:47:56,900 –> 00:48:00,800
And I just wonder how often back
in Paul’s day, in an hour each

680
00:48:00,808 –> 00:48:04,900
day.
That is really the cause of

681
00:48:04,900 –> 00:48:09,600
disunity.
As we want to show that, we know

682
00:48:09,600 –> 00:48:11,500
something, we want to get the
accolades.

683
00:48:11,500 –> 00:48:15,100
We want to draw disciples after
ourselves.

684
00:48:15,200 –> 00:48:18,000
We don’t want to be Disciples of
the Lord Jesus Christ.

685
00:48:21,800 –> 00:48:26,100
I think that’s at the heart that
right there in Acts chapter 20.

686
00:48:26,100 –> 00:48:29,900
That is at the heart of
disunity.

687
00:48:31,200 –> 00:48:34,100
The disunity I’ve caused and the
disunity I’ve seen.

688
00:48:37,600 –> 00:48:40,200
But for today’s class, I just
want us to understand that this

689
00:48:40,200 –> 00:48:42,700
was the issue Paul was dealing
with head on.

690
00:48:42,800 –> 00:48:46,400
And we can also observe that
this is a very serious issue.

691
00:48:46,800 –> 00:48:50,500
This is issue in terms of
Doctrine, and in terms of

692
00:48:50,500 –> 00:48:55,500
practice Now, how is Paul going
to deal with this in the

693
00:48:55,500 –> 00:48:58,200
Ecclesia?
What is he going to do?

694
00:48:58,400 –> 00:49:03,100
How is he going to bring some of
the sheep following this ideas?

695
00:49:03,100 –> 00:49:05,500
How is he going to bring them
back into the meeting?

696
00:49:06,300 –> 00:49:09,200
How is he going to try to bring
about unity and Ephesus?

697
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:13,100
Well, I’ll take that up in our
next class.