This week we are listening to an Exhortation from Bro. Levi Gelineau titled “The Final Consolation” that was given at the Verdugo Hills Ecclesia on August 13, 2023.

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Welcome to good Krysofian talks.
I’m Levi.

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I’m Chris.
I’m Gisten.

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And I’m Brian, thank you for
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And now let’s talk more about
this week’s talk.

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This week’s talk is my own
exhortation that I gave in

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August of 2023, as was a little
over a year ago.

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It’s called the Final
Consolation and I really enjoyed

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putting this exhortation
together.

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I open with a reading of a
portion of The Final Consolation

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by Brother Robert Roberts.
And then?

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Talk about the reality of our
hope being that there is kind of

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an apocalypse.
And I think I have struggled

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with that for years.
And I, I, I tell a personal

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story in this talk about that
and just, you know, just how it,

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how it.
Can be so.

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Surreal or and sometimes feeling
very illogical and just very

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strange to to maintain the faith
that we have in saying yes, I

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believe the world’s going to end
right, which a lot of people

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wouldn’t say right.
And that’s, I think that’s this

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talk is me kind of struggling
with that.

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I actually.
Gave this version of the talk in

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at Verdugo Hills, which is
Chris’s meeting, the long time

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meeting of Bob Lloyd.
It’s a very nearby meeting.

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Vaduga Hills and Simi Hills are
about half an hour apart.

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And so I also wanted this, I
wanted to post this version of

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it.
I’m, I’m saying that because I

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gave this exhortation three
times that summer and this is

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definitely the best performance
of the exhortation, which is

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something I’ve, I, I thought was
worth sharing ahead of time

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because there’s a reason I
think, you know, that I haven’t

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been on good Chris, good
Christopian talks yet.

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And we’re all, you know, there’s
a, there’s definitely a tongue

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in cheek to this July special of
us posting our own talks.

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You know, it’s just, it’s just
funny.

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And we’re.
And we’re not, you know, and I’m

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not a particularly great
speaker.

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I don’t get invited to teach a
Bible school.

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And that’s OK.
I wouldn’t, I would probably

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decline if someone said that I
needed to give 5 lectures.

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It’s just not my strength.
It’s not, not, not, not not

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really the part of the body, you
know, of First Corinthians 12

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that I am.
But I anyways, I, I was excited

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to share it And, and it is
something that I’m still kind of

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learning at my age.
I’ve been, I’ve been giving

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exertations for 20 years, but
when I, this is the third, third

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time.
And for me especially when I

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have actually given the talk,
the 2nd and 3rd and 4th time is

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significantly better.
So now it’s part of my

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preparation when I when I do
take the time to properly

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prepare and actually taking a
video recording of myself giving

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the talk 1st and then then going
and giving it at at the ecclesia

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I’m speaking at.
Anyways, so.

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That’s the that’s some of my
context before, before sharing

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this talk.
It is the most recent

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exhortation I’ve given.
So it’s also funny when I look

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back when I was asking myself
what is the best talk I’ve ever

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given, I ended up with the last
one.

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So that was also, you know, a
funny thing.

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But I’m, I’m, I’m excited to
share it.

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I hope it’s helpful.
I hope there are some ideas in

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here that are helpful.
Thank you again to everyone for

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listening to the show for so
long.

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I can’t believe we’re past 300
episodes.

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So here is the final
consolation.

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Good morning, I’m going to start
my exertation in a non advisable

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way.
I’m going to read something for

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a long time.
So.

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Work really hard on your
attention, please, if you or me,

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it’s this is a big struggle is a
quote from the final Consolation

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written by Brother Robert
Roberts in the the year 1895 The

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final.
Consolation is a.

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Small pamphlet that Robert
Roberts wrote and it was his

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vision of the Kingdom.
We approach Jerusalem, or rather

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Yahweh.
Shema, the new name of the new

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city from the South.
It stands in the southernmost

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section of the Holy portion.
It’s an immense city built upon

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a plan of perfect symmetry and
proportion.

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It is very unlike the huddled
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called towns with which we have
been familiar.

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The general plan is an exact
square marked by an outer wall.

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The square is of enormous
extent, measuring 9 miles

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through at any point.
The wall is of bright stone and

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adorned with towers at regular
distances.

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Keep paying attention.
We descended from the

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overlooking hill and entered by
one of these gates.

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It would be pleasant to stay and
inspect the city, but we want to

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hurry on to the temple, and
therefore we must be content

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with a rapid passage to the
central thoroughfare, which we

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have chosen to the northern exit
by one of the gates in the north

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wall.
Just before passing on, we

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notice at a glance the stately
character of the city.

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The streets are straight and
wide and shaded with trees, and

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at regular distances open out
onto squares and crescents.

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The houses are not high, and
stand apart in gardens, except

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where here and there palatial
blocks of buildings spring from

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the midst of the squares.
We asked what these are, and

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informed that they are reception
houses for the accommodation of

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the visitors, who daily come
from all parts.

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There’s an immense number of
people in the city, but the city

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is so vast that they do not
appear numerous except at

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certain points as we pass along.
Their aspect is such as we never

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saw in any city crowd before, so
quiet and yet so cheerful, so

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brightly interested in
everything, yet so orderly and

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respectful, so apparently
cultured and well to do, yet

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having none of the fussiness and
arrogance usually associated

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with prosperity.
All are well clad, clean,

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intelligent, good, righteous and
happy.

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No boisterous merrymaking, no
foolish banter, no unseemly

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utterance.
There are few.

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These are few of the happy
subjects of the Kingdom of God.

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They’ve come from all parts of
each of the earth, all parts of

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the earth, to do homage to the
King, wives and families with

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them, leaving behind them
prosperous homesteads and

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occupations to which they return
in a little season.

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We hasten in a straight line
along our Nine Mile Ave. of

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picturesque and happy human
habitation.

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We could take the help of an
electric tram if we liked, for

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such has been provided in all
the thoroughfares that’s fancy

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for the use of the people.
But in our new state we prefer

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to walk.
We can quicken our pace when we

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want to do so, by gliding along
in the air, skimming the surface

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of the road as we dreamt of in
our mortal days.

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We get out at the gate of Judah,
opposite which, after crossing

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an ornamental common of about
half a mile in breadth that runs

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around the entire city, there
opens a magnificent Hwy. running

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in a straight line in a northern
direction towards the temple,

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which is distant about 30 miles.
Along this highway we proceed

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again.
That is written by Brother Rob

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Roberts in the year 1895.
That’s why an electric tram is

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special, and that’s why I think
it matters that people are

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clean.
I thought that was funny.

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Why does it matter that they’re
clean?

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It’s been our hope as
Christadelphians for a very long

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time for the Kingdom of God to
come here on earth.

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Pretty neat that he wrote that
130 years ago.

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God will wipe every tear from
our eye.

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We just read from every tear
from every eye.

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A couple years ago, I was at
dinner with a client who had

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grown to be a friend, and we
started talking about religion.

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His father was a pastor, but
he’d sworn off organized

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religion when he was 17.
And he asked me, so how then do

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you think it all ends?
So he said.

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I said, well, there’s a big
battle.

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All the nations of the earth
will come together to fight

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against Jesus and the Saints.
Jesus wins.

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The armies and might of men are
easily overthrown.

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Jesus rules from Jerusalem or
Yahweh Shema for 1000 years.

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Streets are paved with gold.
We float and you know we can.

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We can float instead of walk.
Electric trams, all that stuff.

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I didn’t say that exactly, but
it was close.

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He started laughing and he said
really like fantasy movie

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things.
As he said.

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I laughed too, because it was
the social thing to do.

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And I said, yeah, I guess I’m
pretty apocalyptic when it comes

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down to it.
And I never thought about that,

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that I’m I’m someone who
believes in an apocalypse now

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some days.
I don’t really disagree with

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him.
Will the world really end with a

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trumpet sound?
Will there really be a last

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battle?
I was in a CYC class once where

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the brother described the final
battle and he said the Saints

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will be able to shoot lasers out
of their hands.

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I’m looking forward to that.
What?

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And after class, I stood with a
friend of mine and I said that

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was crazy lasers out of the
hands.

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And she said, yeah, and she
doesn’t come around anymore.

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Our hope is not lasers out of
our hands.

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The complexity of revelation,
what we just read, I think makes

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it easy to hand wave away.
I think it makes it easy to

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ignore.
I think it makes it easy for

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smart, intelligent people to
say, well, this can’t be it.

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This is too confusing.
There’s a philosophical argument

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that’s called the puddle
analogy, which I’m going to try

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to explain, that you also can
pair with revelation being

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confusing, and actually Douglas
Adams described it in The

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Hitchhiker’s Guide to the
Galaxy.

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So here’s another short reading.
This one’s shorter, but still

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funny.
This is rather as if you imagine

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a puddle waking up one morning
and thinking, this is an

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interesting world I find myself
in, an interesting hole I find

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myself in.
This fits me rather neatly,

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doesn’t it?
In fact, it fits me staggeringly

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well.
Must have been made to have me

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in it.
This is such a powerful idea for

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the puddle.
And as the sun rises and the sky

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and the air heats up, and as
gradually the puddle gets

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smaller and smaller, frantically
hanging on to the notion that

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everything’s going to be all
right.

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Because the world was meant to
have him in it was built to have

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him in it.
So the moment that he

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disappears, it catches him
rather by surprise.

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I think this may be something we
need to watch out for.

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That’s what Adam said.
And there’s a there’s a

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philosopher who describes it.
William Lane Craig describes it

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as one appealing one appeals to
a self selection effect in order

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to eliminate surprise that one
observes, however improbable.

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The anthropomorphized puddle can
be surprised at its own

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existence only if the whole
exists, so it shouldn’t be

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surprised how well the whole
fit.

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If the whole were not there, the
puddle would not exist to be

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surprised about it.
A fear that I have sometimes

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when my faith is weak is have I
used Revelation as an ending to

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the story I’ve made-up in my
life to explain my own

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existence?
I mean, it is pretty confusing.

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I’m the wrong brother to invite
to explain to you every part of

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Revelation 21.
And am I really?

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Is it really fair for me to
expect of myself or especially

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others to believe?
To really believe that our

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regular day-to-day life and the
real physical experiences that

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we have will all end in a moment
or in a twinkling of an eye.

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Well, yes, the answer is yes.
Yes, Revelation is real.

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The river of life is real.
The lion sleeping with the Lamb

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is real.
The lame man leaping like a deer

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is real.
All nations will come to

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Jerusalem, and they will come to
Jerusalem to worship.

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There will be no more need for
the sun.

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This is reality.
God has shown to keep His

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promises.
Prophecies we read have been

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fulfilled, and if part of this
Bible is true, then I think the

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whole thing is true.
Does anyone know what the newest

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country in the world is?
It’s South Sudan.

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South Sudan was founded in 2011
and actually right now South

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Sudan is competing in the World
Cup of Basketball.

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They have a basketball team
that’s competing in the FIBA

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basketball tournament.
South Sudan thirteen years old.

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I wonder if you know, so that
that was 2011.

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I was baptized in in oh,
shouldn’t, shouldn’t have said

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this. 2000 I was baptized in
2000.

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I wonder if I had been taught
for years and years that there

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would be a nation called South
Sudan, how that would impact me

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when it then happened.
I’m saying that because, as we

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all know, as Bible students,
Ezekiel 37 and other passages

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predicted the establishment of
the nation of Israel, which

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happened in 1948.
And Robert Roberts and John

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Thomas wrote about that almost
100 years before that, the

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nation of Israel would be
founded, People would be drawn

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out from the world and the
nation of Israel would be

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founded.
I wonder, I think about South

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Sudan, just as an example,
because I think for some it

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would be just that random, just
that weird.

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Like what if we had, what if we
had spent 20 years?

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What if we’d spent 100 years
predicting the establishment of

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South Sudan?
Right then we would see it

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happen and we would see their
team play in the basketball

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tournament and we’d think, wow,
that’s amazing that the Bible

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said that we’ve got we’ve, we’ve
come far now.

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What’s it been 70 plus years
since the establishment of

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Israel for my generation, It’s
easy to forget how amazing of a

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miracle that was.
It’s easy to forget that

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revelation is real.
I think again, maybe it’s easy

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for me.
It’s easy for me to forget this.

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I’m a very busy person.
I have a baby.

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You heard her before we started.
She hit her head on the chair.

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It was really sad.
I have stressful client

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relationships at work.
I have so many people I’m

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concerned about.
I have a mortgage.

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I have all these things, all
these external pressures.

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Jess and I often quote in a
joking way, Second Corinthians

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11/28.
Paul says, besides all this, I

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have the pressure every day of
all the churches.

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So we say besides all this, it’s
when, when you get your, your

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head so clouded with so many
things, it’s hard to remember

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that revelation is real.
And I think as I’m, as I’m

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standing up here speaking to
you, that’s different for some

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of us, for some of you,
revelation is more real.

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You think more about it,
frankly, you’re older than me.

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You’re looking forward to that
day and you look forward to it

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and you focus on it every day.
And I’m, I’m envious of that

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focus.
It’s hard to keep the faith that

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that the sun really will go away
and all the light of the world

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will come from the temple.
And really this apocalyptic

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reality, because we are a little
apocalyptic, should inspire

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constant good, for we know that
Jesus could come at any moment.

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CS Lewis said the doctrine of
the second coming has failed so

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far as we are concerned if it
does not make us realize that at

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every moment of every year in
our lives, Jesus is knocking at

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the door.
That’s a warning for me.

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I believe in an apocalypse and
an ending, but that should only

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inspire positive actions in
everyday.

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That doesn’t mean that I get to
put my head in the sand and

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ignore injustice or ignore the
sad things that happen in the

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world, not take action when I
can.

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I can’t just say, well, it’ll
all be over soon and shrug off

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the terrible headlines in the
paper.

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I need to respond to hunger or
to climate issues.

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Matthew 25 says whatever you
have done to the least of these,

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you have done to me.
Our Father wants to be with us,

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and He looks forward to that day
with nothing standing between

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us, with the end of this
dispensation in the coming of

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the final consolation.
He wants to hold us.

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He wants to hear about us.
He wants to hear about our

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story.
Revelation is very real.

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Thankfully, that day is coming.
We’re finished reading

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Revelation 22 at verse 5, but
I’m going to close now with

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verse six and seven.
And he said to me, these words

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are trustworthy and true.
And the Lord, the God of the

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spirits of the prophets, has
sent his Angel to show his

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servants what must soon take
place.

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And behold, I am coming soon.
Blessed is the one who keeps the

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words of the prophecy of this
book.

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