This week we are listening to the second class in a series by Alfred Norris, the series is titled “The Mighty Acts of God”. This class is titled “The Visitation at Pentecost”.
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Welcome to Good Chris Selfie and
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I’m Levi.
And I’m Chris, and I’m Brian.
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of set the stage for the talk
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now let’s talk more about.
This Week’s Talk
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This week’s Talk is the second
class in a series by Brother
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Alfred Norris.
The series is called The Mighty
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Acts of God, and this class is
called the Visitation at
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Pentecost.
Really, really enjoyed this
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class.
It’s kind of pretty evenly
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divided into two parts.
He even takes a pause in between
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them, the first part being a
discussion on what it means to
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be made in the image of God.
And there was kind of a bunch of
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thoughts in that first section
that I’d I’d never had before,
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so that was very fun to listen
to.
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And the second part, it’s about
the last 17 minutes is about the
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the Holy Spirit working in Acts
and in the New Testament and
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what the the gift of tongues
like, how often it’s mentioned
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and and what it what it might
have actually meant.
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So very really really fun class
to listen to.
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This isn’t our first time
obviously running a Alfred
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Norris talk.
This is his fourth class on the
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show and he fits exactly into
kind of an older style and I’ve
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I’ve talked about this in
introductions before where he
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doesn’t quote a verse in this
entire class so which feels
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feels so foreign to me And now
as AI guess a modern day
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Chrysadelphian that all classes
and exhorts we hear now are full
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of brethren quoting exact
scripture.
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Brother Norris obviously refers
to scripture a ton and that’s
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kind of fun to hear.
Fun to hear him kind of use
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quotes interwoven in his talk in
his class.
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You know he’s he’s referring to
scripture constantly but not
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telling you exactly where.
So it’s fun as a as a listener
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to to hear those thoughts
because then it becomes kind of
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a more, I don’t know a more a
more conversational style I
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think in less of a less of a
lecture feeling.
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So again, really enjoyed this
one, really happy to, happy to
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share it.
So here is Alfred Norris, The
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Visitation at Pentecost.
There’s one hymn, one of the
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sound paraphrases, which sums up
completely the title of this
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series, which is, as you know,
the mighty acts of God.
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So can we sing Hymn 24?
Could I ask that we sing the
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second-half of verse 2 Softly
and the whole of verse 4 softly?
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Hymn 24.
O Lord, Thou Art My God and
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King.
There’s a good deal more yet to
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be said about the resurrection
of the Lord Jesus, which was the
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theme we introduced yesterday.
So the official title of this
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talk will occur only to the
later part of what I have to
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say.
In Acts chapter 2, Peter used
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the fact of the Lord’s
resurrection as the basis of
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that urgent appeal, that
irresistible appeal to all good
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consciences in their midst, that
the people should repent and
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turn to God.
For the man who was raised from
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the dead was the man whom they
had crucified, or whose
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crucifixion they had engineered,
or at the call for whose
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crucifixion they had applauded
and said, not this man, but
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Barabbas.
The apostles continue on the
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same theme, but as they do so,
there arises an ever sharper
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division amongst the people to
whom they are speaking.
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At first a neutral body of
people, including some friends,
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some enemies, some who had not
made-up their mind addresses.
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Here’s the address of Pentecost.
And then decide whether they
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will repent or they will not,
and 3000 decide they will.
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And the company increases as
time goes on.
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And a great number of the
priests are added to the faith,
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which must have been no small
surrender on the part of those
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priests, since the priests were
primarily Sadducees, and the
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Sadducees say there is no
resurrection, neither Angel nor
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spirit.
Such persons must therefore have
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gone full circle from their
original denial that there was
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such a thing, either as survival
of the dead or as bringing the
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dead back to life again.
And when they were converted to
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the faith, that was conversion
indeed.
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But nevertheless, in spite of
the increase in numbers growing
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to 5000 and more, before very
long there was inevitably an
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increase in hostility.
They who were hardened in their
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unbelief, they who had called
down the blood of the Lord Jesus
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Christ upon themselves and upon
their children, who would grow
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in opposition to God to such an
extent that it would indeed be
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needful to destroy their city.
And the Romans would indeed come
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and take away their place and
habitation.
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We’re only mustering their
forces.
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The few thousands who joined
themselves to the disciples were
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matched by an increasing number
and an increasing determination
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on the part of those who would
see their hostility to the Lord
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Jesus Christ through to the
bitter end.
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Bitter end it would be indeed,
if ever there was a case of a
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people turning aside from God’s
ways to their own discomfiture
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and destruction.
That was the case with the Jews
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from Pentecost onwards in
Jerusalem, and indeed throughout
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the cities of the Roman Empire
where Jews were to be found.
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There is throughout this book a
monotonous story of the people
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of God-given a second
opportunity to hear the wisdom
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of God, allowed time to repent
of the deeds of their fathers in
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putting the Son of God to death.
And though they heard the
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message quietly for a day or so,
then gathering their forces and
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rejecting the message offered to
them, some few, of course, did
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accept the way of salvation.
The primarily Jewish accession
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to the faith from Pentecost
onwards, until the days when
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disciples first were scattered
abroad, gradually, however,
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changed into Jews plus
Samaritans, Jews plus Greeks.
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Some Jews are mostly Greeks.
So many Greeks that you now
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could begin to talk about the
Jews did this, while the
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believers did that.
And towards the end of the
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history of the Acts of the
Apostles, we have that dreadful
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judgement on the people to whom
Paul in particular went first to
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preach the way of life, that
seeing they judged themselves
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unworthy of eternal life, lo,
they would turn to the Gentiles.
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Which does not mean that the
Jews were disallowed so far as
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the fulfilment of God’s purpose
for them was concerned.
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It does not mean that they were
no longer acceptable if they
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would humble themselves beneath
the mighty hand of God, but it
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does increasingly mean that
there were few who would do so.
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And towards the end of New
Testament times, and ever since,
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even to our own days, those of
that race who would humble
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themselves and accept the name
of the Crucified One as that of
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their Saviour, went down and
down and has stayed down.
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Now, however, we go on to the
remainder of the resurrection
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Witnesses in the Acts.
Matthias was ordained to be a
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witness with the other apostles
of his resurrection, and with
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great power gave the apostles
their witness of the
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resurrection of the Lord Jesus
Christ.
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God hath raised him from the
dead.
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This to Cornelius, of which we
are witnesses not to all the
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people, but unto witnesses
chosen before of God, even to
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us, who did eat and drink with
him after he rose from the dead.
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And so first of all, in
Jerusalem the apostles continued
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to preach fearlessly that which
they had seen and heard.
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They had seen an empty grave.
They had heard a powerful,
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vibrant, resurrected voice
beyond the power of death.
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They had been witnesses of the
many infallible proofs whereby
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the Lord had declared that he
was alive forevermore.
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And they knew.
And so, as John, the last of
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them, perhaps, was later to
write that which we have seen
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and heard declare, We unto you
the enemies arose, and tried to
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silence them.
They took Peter and John, and
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they put them in prison.
The prisons were miraculously
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opened, and the apostles
appeared again in public next
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day.
And the rulers, knowing that the
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great work had been wrought in
healing the man who’d been lame
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for so long, were unable to deny
the great things that the
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apostles were doing in the name
of Jesus, But unable to deny it
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though they were, they would
quieten it if they could.
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And so they straightly commanded
them that they should speak no
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more in this name.
It was then that Peter made that
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classic declaration of what was
to be the way in which the
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apostles would always bear
witness to their faith, which
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was, whether it be right in the
sight of God to obey you rather
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than him judge ye, or we ought
to obey God rather than men.
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And then they rejoiced that they
were counted worthy to suffer
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shame for his sake in the sight
of the rulers.
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They were obstinate men,
ignorant Galileans, a nuisance
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to the smooth running of the
machinery of the subordinate
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Jewish state, men without
visible means of support.
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Moreover, it should be easy to
quell them.
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They had been strangely
forgetful of how hard it was to
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quell Jesus, who, despite the
fact that he raised no finger to
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hurt any person at any time, yet
could always escape them when
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they came.
For Him, could always seem to be
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sacrosanct when they tried to
arrest him except for the last
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moment, and could not be
silenced when they tried to
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cause him to stop his preaching.
If only they had listened, if
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only they had known, that the
Christ they crucified, and was
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now raised from the dead, was
indeed the one behind every
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effort of His Apostles.
And that they who had received
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power when the Spirit of God
came upon them had that power
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from him to whom it was given
all power in heaven and in
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earth, that they went not alone,
but in his company.
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So they preached not defenceless
men, but with the Lord by their
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side.
And if the Lord, who had not
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been defended against his death,
would not ultimately defend his
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disciples against their own, yet
quicken and bear witness to
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their preaching, He would So
they could not but speak the
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things that they had seen and
heard, first in Jerusalem, then
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through Philip in Samaria, then
through Peter to Cornelius in
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Caesarea.
The first fully fledged
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Gentiles, not already Jews by
faith, who were admitted into
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the fold, then through Paul in
Antioch of Pisidia, to a fully
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Gentile audience, with a many
fold repetition of the fact that
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the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed
risen from the dead.
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Using the same Psalm as we have
said, that Peter used yesterday
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to convince the Jews of
Jerusalem, then further afield,
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when he came to Athens, to
Athens, where there were so many
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gods and goddesses, worshipped,
so many temples, so many altars,
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so many shrines, so many
witnesses, that this
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superstitious people could never
be quite sure that with a
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multiplicity of gods they were
worshipping them all.
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So that in order to secure
themselves against a repetition
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of a sad disaster which had
overtaken them some years
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before, there was in at least
one place in their city an altar
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bearing this inscription to the
unknown God.
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And when Paul went into their
midst and preached unto them
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Jesus and the resurrection, oh
Yesus Kai, hey Anastasi, they
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thought a new God and a new
goddess were being introduced to
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their category.
Yes, it’s the God Anastasia the
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goddess.
And so they wished to enquire of
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Paul what he meant by setting
forth strange gods in their
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midst.
The unknown God should have been
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enough.
It was.
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All they needed was to be told
about him, to be told that he
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was not likened to flesh and
blood, that it was useless to
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imagine him, still less to
depict him in the shape of
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carved images of man or beast or
bird or creeping thing, and
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worst of all, in the shape of
goddesses.
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That he created all things, that
his power surpassed everything
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you could see in the created
universe.
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That he who made the earth, whom
they ignorantly and
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superstitiously worshipped, was
the one in whose hand is the
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life of every living thing, who
controls the breath of all
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mankind.
They should turn from their
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superstitions before it was too
late, as Israel should have
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turned from their parochial
their Pharisaic reliance upon
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being Abraham’s dead children.
They should turn and worship the
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living and the true God, for one
day it would be too late.
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Ignorance, when there is no, no,
no extenuation of that
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ignorance, when there is no
information to be given, is one
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thing.
Ignorance, when you shut your
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eyes to the truth which is
declared, is another.
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This the Jews had already done
this.
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The Greeks might also do so in
those classic words we so often
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quote.
And the times of this ignorance
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God winked at, but now
commandeth thee all men
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everywhere to repent.
He called the Greeks to join the
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faithful Jews in accepting the
God of heaven declared in the
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Lord Jesus Christ.
For he hath appointed a day in
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the which he will judge the
world in righteousness.
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Whereof he hath given assurance
unto all men in that he hath
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raised him from the dead.
To the Jews at Pentecost, the
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resurrection of Jesus was the
call to repent and turn from
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their evil works, and
acknowledge the misdeeds of
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their fathers.
To the Athens, it was the call
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to know, to know for sure, that
there was coming a time when God
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would intervene once more in the
affairs of the earth, when there
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would be a judgement both of the
living and the dead, where in
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which the one who himself had
been raised from the dead would
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stand before them to render into
every man according to his
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works.
So to Greeks as well as to Jews,
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there came the same call,
Repent.
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This word, repent, is a word we
could use more often, a thought
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we could entertain more deeply
in our hearts, A-frame of mind
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into which we could more
constantly find ourselves drawn.
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When we receive the faith we
believe it is good to believe it
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is indispensable.
God requires that those who come
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to him shall believe that he is,
and that he is a rewarder of
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them that diligently seek Him.
But belief has come to mean
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something less than its full
meaning in our usual way of
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describing it.
I believe that there is one God
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means to most of us.
I am sure there are not three
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and certainly not more.
I believe that the scriptures
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are the inspired record of God’s
dealings with men means.
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I’m sure it didn’t come by the
unaided work of man and that man
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by himself could not have done
it and man was only the agent of
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God’s revelation.
I believe that Jesus Christ will
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return to the earth means I’m
convinced of the fact that one
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day he will come back.
And one can believe such things
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as that in the spirit of a man
who, like James, beholds his
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natural face in the glass and
goes away, and straightway
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forgets what manner of man he
was.
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When we see our faces in the
glass, we ought, at least at
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1st, to see a strangely
disfigured image of God.
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God has made us in his likeness,
but the likeness of God has been
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overlaid with the likeness of
sinners, with the lines of sin
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and mortality, with the
distortions and the hardenings
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and the flabbiness’s of engaging
in the lusts and desires of the
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flesh.
When we who know that there is a
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God who created man in his own
image after his likeness, look
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inside the glass, we ought to be
able to tell that there is that
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even in that distorted, bloated,
lined, and sin stricken image,
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that which tells us we are more
than beasts, more than blind
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creatures, obliged to do the
things that instincts make them
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do.
We should know that God put in
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US better than that, but that we
have not done so well as He put
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in us that the deeds of our
sinning Father we have done with
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all too great eagerness, and the
deeds of him whose image and
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likeness we bear have come hard
to us to perform.
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And whether we are murderous
Jews at Pentecost, or well lived
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Gentiles at Caesarea, or curious
philosophical idolaters
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Athenians at the Ariopagus.
Whether we are good living
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proselytes like the Ethiopian
eunuch or terrace stricken
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prison keepers like the Jenner
of Philippi.
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Whether our lives have been as
the world counts such lives
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upright, honest, respectable,
esteemed by others.
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Whether they have been
brutalized, hard, callous.
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Whether they have been wicked,
wanton, abandoned, well, there
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have been stiff, proud, Paris
sake.
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Whether our lives have been any
of these things, from the simply
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respectful to the dreadfully
stained with nameless sins.
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God hath commanded all men
everywhere to repent, because he
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hath appointed a day under which
he will judge the word in
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righteousness by that man whom
he hath ordained.
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Whereof he hath given assurance
unto all men in that he hath
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raised him from the dead.
The assurance is the assurance
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that Jesus can judge because
he’s alive.
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To do it.
God hath raised him from the
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dead.
The assurance is the
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demonstration that he is alive,
for so can the resurrection of
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Jesus be set out convincingly
before us.
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And so we all know he can judge
the assurances that Jesus is
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entitled to judge, because in
righteousness was the way he
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lived, and for righteousness was
the way he died.
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And everlasting righteousness is
fixed upon him with his grant
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title, the Lord Our
Righteousness, which now He
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bears.
And He can and will judge the
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world in righteousness, having
been raised from the dead.
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Because the resurrection came
after the spotless living
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itself, the fruits of a lifelong
battle between the man with
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man’s instincts and man’s
temptability, and the way that
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God wanted him to live, and the
rightness God wanted him to
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show, and the sinlessness it was
essential that he should reveal.
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And the Lord did it, And the
Lord could look, had he been so
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vain as to look in a glass that
revealed his own face, and know
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that no act of his had lined
that image?
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Puffed those cheeks, coarsened
that tender glance, the Lord
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could bid them, give him a coin,
show to them Caesar’s image, and
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say, knowing that they would
look straight at him as he did
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so render unto Caesar that which
is Caesar’s, and bears Caesar’s
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image, and unto God that which
is God’s, and bears his.
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For surely that is what the Lord
was saying when he said, Render
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unto God the things that are
God’s.
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And the outcome of that should
have been and should be that
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when they went.
And when we go to our own place
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and look in our own glasses
again, it is not purely for the
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purpose of brushing our hair and
powdering our nose and making
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the none too perfect image look
better than it is.
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But seeing the image as it is
seeing in the face of the Lord
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Jesus Christ, which we also
behold in the glass what it
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ought to be like.
And repenting, knowing how much
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worse the one is than the other.
How much deformed is the image
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of God in US?
Seeing what God would like it to
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be and repenting, turning aside
from our own way and walking in
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God’s ways, leaving behind us
our own sins and seeking God’s
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righteousness, leaving behind
our own pattern of worldly
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behaviour, and seeking that
godly direction of life which
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was exemplified perfectly only
in one, but is now evidently set
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forth in him who was crucified
amongst us.
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And that is how Paul puts the
resurrection before the men of
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Athens.
He will judge because he can,
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righteously because he is
righteous at the appointed day
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because he is God’s servant, and
so now is the time to repent.
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There were some who did, not
many.
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It seems the odd man here and
there.
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Some noble women joined Paul in
Athens, but we don’t hear of any
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church founded there, so it
looks as though there perhaps
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wasn’t one for ourselves.
We have turned our minds to
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admit us through the things we
believe, to confess faithfully
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the first principles of our
statements.
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But to believe is to have faith,
to have trust, to place
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ourselves in God’s hands, to
turn aside from vain trust in
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the mortal things of this
worldly life.
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For the world passeth away on
the lust thereof and place our
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confidence in God through the
Lord Jesus Christ.
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Many wonders and signs were done
by the apostles.
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This touches in a different kind
of way upon a life problem of
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today.
Not much to do with our
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behaviour, though it has
something to do with that, but
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rather to do with our defences
against the constantly attacking
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winds of doctrine that confront
us in the world in which we
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live.
In a new upsurge of Neo
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Pentecostalism, In a world where
the spirit gifts are claimed
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again and increasingly and
aggressively with the new
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charisma matter that men are
begging for themselves and
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claiming to receive, we are not
infrequently confronted with the
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problem.
How far are these things true?
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How far should they affect
ourselves?
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How much should we follow them?
Should there be an earnest
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coveting of the same things in
our minds, or should we bring
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down all the shutters and close
down our minds even to thinking
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of the matter and battening down
the hatches, decide that this is
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not for us?
Well, of course, the right way
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at all times is to say what is
written.
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How readest thou both, if you
like?
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What did they experience in the
1st century?
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And is there a promise 1/2
promise, an open-ended promise,
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or no promise of corresponding
events in our own day?
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And in the period when the
mighty acts of God were most
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manifest of all subsequent to
the resurrection of the Lord
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Jesus Christ?
We do, at least it seems to me,
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have the top end of what God
might have done, and therefore
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might conceivably be going to do
again.
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What did He do in that 1st
century, by way of Spirit
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endowment and mighty gifts and
miraculous manifestations?
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Well, He gave the visitation of
Pentecost.
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He called the apostles, at least
perhaps at most, to speak with
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other tongues as the Spirit gave
them utterance.
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He caused a promise to be made
that if they would repent and be
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baptized every one of them, then
they should receive the gift of
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Holy Spirit, whatever that
implies.
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And the promise was to extend to
them and to their children, and
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to all that were afar off, even
as many as the Lord their God
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should call.
And he caused 3000 to be
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baptized that day and be joined
to the faith.
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And then what?
Well, we’ll come back to Then
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what in a moment.
For that was Pentecost, the next
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public manifestation of
widespread Spirit gifts, however
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widespread they were, would, I
suppose, be at Samaria when
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Philip had preached the Gospel
with his own mighty works in the
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presence of the Samaritans.
And they, having believed,
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awaited the time when Peter and
John would come down from
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Jerusalem.
And when Peter and John came,
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they prayed for them that they
might receive the Holy Spirit.
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And in what manifestations we
hardly know.
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The prayer was granted, and the
gift was put upon Samaritans
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also.
And then there was Caesarea,
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when Cornelius the Gentile was
preached to, when it was
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anticipated from above, and
understood by Peter that it
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might be very difficult to
persuade hardened Jews to accept
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the Gentiles without first
becoming Jewish, by faith, could
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be introduced into the Christian
fold.
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And so while Peter was yet
speaking to them, behold, the
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Holy Spirit fell upon them, and
they began to speak with tongues
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and glorify God.
And Peter was then empowered to
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say who we can forbid water,
that these should not be
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baptized, which have received
the Holy Spirit as well as we.
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And it occurred in Ephesus, when
in the 19th chapter of the Acts,
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when Paul had gone there
following the mission of
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Apollos, and had found there
certain who are called
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disciples, obtained an
unsatisfactory answer to the
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question, Have you received the
Holy Spirit since she believed,
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being told that they had not so
much as heard, that the Holy
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Spirit was given, proceeded to
tell them about the limitation
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of John’s baptism, about the
promise of John, that they or
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some of them would be baptized
with Holy Spirit not many days
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hence.
And from that point on, well,
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the gift of the Holy Spirit came
to these people too, a small
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number, and they were convinced
that God’s gift was given.
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Now outside those four.
Is it public?
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Examples At Pentecost in Samaria
in Caesarea, as in Ephesus, Acts
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is just about silent about
widespread gifts.
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Not merely is it just about
silent about widespread gifts,
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but the implications are that
they weren’t widespread anymore.
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Though there might have been
these outsurgings of the Spirit
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00:29:41,320 –> 00:29:48,040
gifts, but they didn’t last,
Save that many wonders and signs
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00:29:48,040 –> 00:29:53,680
were wrought by the apostles,
and the words are emphasized.
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Many wonders and signs were
wrought by the apostles, and
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with great power gave the
apostles their witness, and
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00:30:03,040 –> 00:30:06,640
miracles occurred.
The Lord wrought special
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miracles by the hand of Paul.
They gathered together, if
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perhaps the shadow of Peter
passing by might fall upon some
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of them, and their sick ones be
healed.
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And it is so throughout the
book.
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Peter works miracles, Paul works
miracles, and Philip and Stephen
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00:30:30,480 –> 00:30:34,160
also work miracles.
But Philip and Stephen are
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special men chosen at the behest
of the Apostolic Council of
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Jerusalem, to look after the
problem of the unequal
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00:30:40,640 –> 00:30:43,960
distribution of relief to
Grecian and Jewish widows with
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the apostles hands laid upon
them, with a special discernment
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given unto them, with it seems,
that special endowment still in
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00:30:50,840 –> 00:30:53,640
them as they lead the solution
of that problem, and set about
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preaching work in earnest.
And Stephen full of the Holy
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00:30:56,240 –> 00:30:59,720
Spirit and power, wrought great
signs, And Philip wrought mighty
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miracles in the neighbourhood of
Samaria.
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So much then is the Acts
concerns with mighty signs
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wrought by apostles and by
special apostolically appointed
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delegates, that it doesn’t have
anything to say in general terms
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about other people being workers
of miracles.
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Tongues come and tongues go, but
we hear no more of them in the
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Acts.
And if those who are not
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forewarned, as some of you have
been, I know we’re asked the
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00:31:28,840 –> 00:31:30,920
question.
And how often do we hear about
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00:31:30,920 –> 00:31:34,160
tongues outside the Acts and of
Mark chapter 16?
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00:31:35,720 –> 00:31:39,040
The answer would be how many
books of the New Testament?
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You’re quite right.
Not to commit yourselves, but
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00:31:43,680 –> 00:31:48,600
it’s one just one place outside
the axe are the gift of tongues
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00:31:48,600 –> 00:31:51,280
referred to, and that one is in
First Corinthians, and it
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00:31:51,280 –> 00:31:54,200
occupies essentially the basis
of three chapters there,
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00:31:54,440 –> 00:31:59,760
chapters 1213 and 14.
And the urgency which Paul has
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00:31:59,760 –> 00:32:02,480
in dealing with the problem of
tongues in Corinth is not to
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00:32:02,480 –> 00:32:06,360
encourage the gift, though he
does, say, forbid not to use it,
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00:32:07,520 –> 00:32:12,120
but to regulate it.
Not to incite them into speaking
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00:32:12,120 –> 00:32:15,920
with tongues, but to ensure that
if they do, they’ll do it right,
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00:32:16,920 –> 00:32:18,920
in the right way and in the
right place, and to the right
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00:32:18,920 –> 00:32:22,040
people.
But they shall not privately, in
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00:32:22,040 –> 00:32:24,440
their prayer meetings or in
their closed ecclesial
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00:32:24,440 –> 00:32:27,200
assemblies behind doors, which
shield them from the public,
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00:32:27,360 –> 00:32:31,080
engage in paroxysms, ecstatic
utterances, and do it for their
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00:32:31,080 –> 00:32:33,800
own supposedly spiritual
delight.
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00:32:35,360 –> 00:32:38,080
But you remember that tongues
are for a sign, not for them
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00:32:38,080 –> 00:32:43,080
that believe, but to them that
believe not that they will
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00:32:43,080 –> 00:32:46,080
deserve the accusation of being
mad, if in their private
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00:32:46,080 –> 00:32:49,080
enjoyment of these luxuriating
gifts the door happens to open,
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00:32:49,080 –> 00:32:51,240
and a stranger comes in and rubs
his eyes with astonishment.
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00:32:52,080 –> 00:32:53,560
And there coming one of them
that believe not.
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00:32:53,560 –> 00:32:54,720
Will it not say that you are
mad?
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00:32:54,800 –> 00:32:59,240
He says so.
It would seem that Corinth was
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00:32:59,240 –> 00:33:02,400
exceptional in the way it used
the gifts, possibly unusual in
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00:33:02,400 –> 00:33:05,040
having the gifts to any large
extent at all, and certainly
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00:33:05,040 –> 00:33:08,200
warned that this was the way in
which such gift, if they were
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00:33:08,200 –> 00:33:11,640
claimed, should be regulated,
controlled, and evidence
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00:33:11,640 –> 00:33:13,880
provided for the speaker, and
for the listener, that the gift
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00:33:13,880 –> 00:33:18,480
is indeed come from God, with an
interpreter to explain to the
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00:33:18,480 –> 00:33:22,000
others what the words mean, if
the words are not spoken in the
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00:33:22,000 –> 00:33:26,160
language understood by all For
the rest.
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00:33:26,160 –> 00:33:29,080
Corinthians is concerned with
coveting earnest and the best
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00:33:29,080 –> 00:33:32,960
gifts, with recognizing that not
everybody has all of them, that
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00:33:32,960 –> 00:33:35,040
not everybody has any of them,
that there are some who have
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00:33:35,040 –> 00:33:37,760
one, some another, and many who
enjoy the results of the
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00:33:37,760 –> 00:33:41,680
administrations of those He gets
some apostles, some prophets,
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00:33:41,760 –> 00:33:44,280
some ministrations afterwards,
gifts of healing and tongues,
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00:33:44,280 –> 00:33:49,800
and so forth.
Apart from that, when you go
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00:33:49,800 –> 00:33:52,720
through the other epistles, you
get the occasional indication
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00:33:52,720 –> 00:33:56,080
that God has by miraculous
divine appointment attested that
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00:33:56,080 –> 00:34:00,640
some are His special servants
with special gifts, and they are
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00:34:00,640 –> 00:34:03,760
spoken of in such a way that the
Apostle Paul calls them the
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00:34:03,760 –> 00:34:07,480
signs of an apostle.
The signs of an Apostle were
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00:34:07,480 –> 00:34:09,920
wrought in me, that I could
speak to you with power and
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00:34:09,920 –> 00:34:14,679
wisdom, with mighty works.
And when we learn in the letter
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00:34:14,679 –> 00:34:17,639
to the Hebrews that they had
received the faith because they
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00:34:17,639 –> 00:34:21,000
were visited with mighty
miraculous works by those who
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00:34:21,000 –> 00:34:24,000
had conversed with the Lord
Jesus Christ after he rose from
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00:34:24,000 –> 00:34:26,480
the dead again, you have the
impression that the Hebrews
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00:34:26,600 –> 00:34:30,600
heard the words, saw the
miracles, but received the
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00:34:30,600 –> 00:34:35,560
words, and understood the
miracles and didn’t do them in
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00:34:35,560 –> 00:34:39,000
their turn.
When Paul writes to the
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00:34:39,000 –> 00:34:42,679
Galatians and warns them against
accepting the blandishments of
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00:34:42,679 –> 00:34:45,440
Judaizers, who would have their
men circumcised before they
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00:34:45,440 –> 00:34:47,960
could be baptized, or at least
have both if they thought
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00:34:47,960 –> 00:34:51,520
themselves Christians at all, he
says, He that ministeth to you
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00:34:51,520 –> 00:34:55,679
the Spirit, and worketh miracles
amongst you doeth it by the
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00:34:55,679 –> 00:34:57,280
hearing of the law, by the Word
of Faith.
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00:34:58,600 –> 00:35:01,360
And again, the Galatians were
witnesses of miracles,
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00:35:01,800 –> 00:35:04,040
spectators of the Spirit’s
mighty Acts.
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00:35:04,640 –> 00:35:09,840
They knew that God was with
them, but only some, and perhaps
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00:35:09,840 –> 00:35:13,040
only few, did these things
themselves.
527
00:35:14,480 –> 00:35:16,880
You knew a prophet when you met
him, and he was a rare thing.
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00:35:17,000 –> 00:35:18,680
There was a prophet called
Agabus.
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00:35:19,040 –> 00:35:23,000
There were as Antioch certain
prophets as Barnabas and Saul
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00:35:24,680 –> 00:35:26,800
prophets.
Messages were inspired messages.
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The greatest of the temporal
prophets at that time was Saul
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00:35:30,440 –> 00:35:32,400
himself.
Paul now that if a man think
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00:35:32,400 –> 00:35:34,880
himself to be a prophet or
spiritual, let him acknowledge
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00:35:34,880 –> 00:35:37,240
the things that I write unto you
are the commandments of the
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00:35:37,240 –> 00:35:41,480
Lord.
The Lord confirmed the word with
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00:35:41,480 –> 00:35:45,280
signs following.
But the great majority of those
537
00:35:45,280 –> 00:35:48,480
who believed confessed their
repentance, accepted the faith,
538
00:35:48,680 –> 00:35:51,680
went down into the waters of
baptism, had good and sufficient
539
00:35:51,680 –> 00:35:53,880
evidence that the gospel they
were accepting was the true
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00:35:53,880 –> 00:35:57,000
gospel indeed, which might in
some areas and at sometimes
541
00:35:57,000 –> 00:36:02,360
include seeing mighty science,
hearing the exercise of the gift
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00:36:02,360 –> 00:36:04,080
of tongues.
But in the case of only few of
543
00:36:04,080 –> 00:36:09,160
them would it involve them in
doing the science, speaking the
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00:36:09,160 –> 00:36:14,080
tongues, making the prophecies,
carrying out the healings.
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00:36:16,640 –> 00:36:19,400
And that was how it was in the
days when the mighty Acts were
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00:36:19,400 –> 00:36:23,760
most manifest, when there was
the most frequent and powerful
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00:36:23,760 –> 00:36:27,080
exercise of the gifts, when the
Lord confirmed the Word in such
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00:36:27,080 –> 00:36:29,600
a way that they could not deny.
And it seems to me that when
549
00:36:29,600 –> 00:36:33,320
Mark’s Gospel was written, he
describes the events of those
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00:36:33,320 –> 00:36:35,480
days as though perhaps they were
already on the way out.
551
00:36:36,280 –> 00:36:39,600
They went everywhere, says Mark,
preaching the Word, the Lord
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00:36:39,600 –> 00:36:42,320
confirming the Word, with signs
following as though to say
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00:36:42,440 –> 00:36:45,440
that’s what they did and that’s
what happened.
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00:36:46,720 –> 00:36:51,240
As though to say the preaching
goes on, but the Lord’s
555
00:36:51,240 –> 00:36:54,280
confirmation of the Word has got
as far as it needs to go.
556
00:36:54,280 –> 00:36:56,600
Now, you can’t expect much more
of this.
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00:36:57,200 –> 00:37:01,840
This is what they did not, and
it would be Needless to say it
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00:37:01,840 –> 00:37:04,760
if it were the case, what they
are doing, as everybody knows.
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00:37:06,840 –> 00:37:08,680
So it seems to me.
We have, apart from the evidence
560
00:37:08,680 –> 00:37:12,120
we would normally adduce, very
good New Testament evidence that
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00:37:12,120 –> 00:37:15,920
the gifts were given to few,
given for a short time temporary
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00:37:15,920 –> 00:37:22,920
in their duration.
Whether it will please God to
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00:37:22,920 –> 00:37:29,520
visit the world with such gifts
again before His Son returns, It
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00:37:29,520 –> 00:37:32,040
seems to me we should humbly
wait and see.
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00:37:34,080 –> 00:37:37,080
Not sure that Joel’s prophecy
might not be fulfilled twice
566
00:37:37,640 –> 00:37:39,760
before another great and
dreadful day of the Lord.
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00:37:40,720 –> 00:37:45,000
Because it looks in Joel as
though it might be so not
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00:37:45,000 –> 00:37:47,720
certain that God would not when
He sends His disciples out in
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00:37:47,720 –> 00:37:51,680
their last message to the world
before the Lord comes back and
570
00:37:51,680 –> 00:37:54,960
bids them preach again before
many peoples and nations and
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00:37:54,960 –> 00:37:57,840
kindreds and tongues.
As Revelation tends as He will
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00:37:58,920 –> 00:38:02,800
that He won’t in that case to
make the world so totally aware
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00:38:02,800 –> 00:38:06,520
that this is a divine work, that
it will be totally responsible
574
00:38:06,520 –> 00:38:12,000
for its rejection of it, and
therefore not in the mood to be
575
00:38:12,000 –> 00:38:15,720
too surprised.
If before the Lord comes back,
576
00:38:15,720 –> 00:38:20,120
we do find that He Himself takes
a hand in bearing witness to the
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00:38:20,120 –> 00:38:26,560
last decisive testimony to His
gospel before the Lord comes in
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00:38:26,560 –> 00:38:29,640
flaming fire, taking vengeance
on them that know not God and
579
00:38:29,640 –> 00:38:31,880
that obey not the gospel of our
Lord Jesus Christ.
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00:38:32,040 –> 00:38:34,280
When He shall come to be
glorified in His Saints and
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00:38:34,280 –> 00:38:38,080
admired in all them that believe
as our testimony among you was
582
00:38:38,080 –> 00:38:46,280
believed in that death.
But not being sure, not doing
583
00:38:46,280 –> 00:38:48,240
silly things to try to make it
happen.
584
00:38:50,320 –> 00:38:57,280
Not whipping up guitar strummed
enthusiasms, not trying by pop
585
00:38:57,400 –> 00:39:04,280
engendered paroxysms to force
God’s hand for him, but waiting
586
00:39:05,920 –> 00:39:10,080
soberly, knowing that the gift
of God by grace is the thing we
587
00:39:10,080 –> 00:39:12,480
need.
That His presence with us to
588
00:39:12,480 –> 00:39:15,160
influence our hearts in ways
unknown to us, when we surrender
589
00:39:15,160 –> 00:39:20,720
ourselves to Him, is His mighty
act for us and content to wait,
590
00:39:20,720 –> 00:39:25,560
almost fearful in waiting, in
case the time should come when
591
00:39:25,560 –> 00:39:30,440
He will take other steps,
unmistakable other steps, steps
592
00:39:30,440 –> 00:39:34,720
that can’t be controverted to
make the world know that this is
593
00:39:34,720 –> 00:39:39,360
His last appeal to them.
I’m not saying He will do that.
594
00:39:41,120 –> 00:39:43,640
I’m saying we should wait and
see.
595
00:39:44,920 –> 00:39:47,960
And if He does, there won’t be
any doubt.
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00:39:48,840 –> 00:39:58,320
Shall we sing Him. 154 And I
think the sentiments of this
597
00:39:58,320 –> 00:40:02,240
hymn are such that a restrained
volume is what we need
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00:40:02,240 –> 00:40:07,000
throughout.
We’re not shouting about things
599
00:40:07,000 –> 00:40:11,480
of praise and power now.
We’re pleading for things of
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00:40:11,480 –> 00:40:16,560
grace and goodness.
Lord, speak to me that I may
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00:40:16,560 –> 00:40:18,720
speak in living echoes of thy
tone.
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00:40:20,000 –> 00:40:22,080
Oh Lord our God and Heavenly
Father.
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00:40:23,880 –> 00:40:26,440
We have thy family, who are
joined to thee through Jesus
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00:40:26,440 –> 00:40:31,120
Christ our Lord, who is not
ashamed to call us brother and
605
00:40:31,120 –> 00:40:34,840
sister.
We thank thee that thou hast
606
00:40:34,840 –> 00:40:37,680
revealed to us the light of the
knowledge of thy glory, and the
607
00:40:37,680 –> 00:40:43,080
face of Jesus Christ, both in
the face of him that suffered
608
00:40:43,080 –> 00:40:47,920
and died, and in the face of him
risen with glory from the grave.
609
00:40:50,040 –> 00:40:54,400
May we keep that image and
likeness of thine before our
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00:40:54,400 –> 00:41:02,600
face at all times.
And so, as we trust in thee and
611
00:41:02,600 –> 00:41:07,880
the work of the risen Lord is
continued in US, be changed
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00:41:08,720 –> 00:41:13,840
after the same image from glory
unto glory, even as by the Lord
613
00:41:15,280 –> 00:41:21,600
the Spirit receive us.
In this we ask thee, hear and
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00:41:21,600 –> 00:41:24,440
answer our prayer and open our
hearts to receive the answer
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00:41:26,160 –> 00:41:30,600
through Jesus Christ our Savior.
Amen.
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00:41:43,960 –> 00:41:46,080
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