271: Matt Tuckson – Faith and Anxiety

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Welcome to Good Chris Selfie and
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I’m Levi.
And I’m Chris, and I’m Brian.

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With a short intro beforehand to

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kind of set the stage for the
talk you’re about to listen to.

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And now, let’s talk more about
this week’s talk.

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Hello and welcome back.
This is Brother Chris.

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I wanted to start real quick
before we get into the talk

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which we are going to be
listening to from a series that

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Brother Matt Tuckson gave
earlier this year at a 25 and

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older conference up in Ontario,
which is really, really

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excellent.
But before I get into telling

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you why I picked this class and
why I picked the series, I also

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wanted to do a programming note
similar to what Levi did a few

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weeks ago.
And that is that we have a new

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host joining the podcast.
Some of you may know him.

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Fun fact, he has been a speaker
on the podcast every season

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except for this one.
We’re in the middle of the sixth

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season and in our first one, and
that is brother Jason Hensley.

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Some of you may have heard his
talks or may know him from doing

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the Magnify Him Together podcast
where he does an end of the week

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encouragement as well.
He leads the Heritage School

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here down in Southern California
as well, so we’re really excited

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to have brother Jason joining
us.

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I know that he, Levi and I have
been friends for many, many

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years and always stay connected
and it was super exciting that

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he was interested and willing.
And as you will hear from him

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next week that he is excited to
be able to join the podcast and

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join in on the rotation.
Brother Brian will still be in

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the mix, as you heard he did his
class last week.

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And so he’ll still be sprinkling
in here and there as he’s able

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to.
And so he’ll still be presents

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on the podcast as well.
But we’re excited to be able to

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add Brother Jason in.
So you got a month of old school

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with just Levi and I alternating
back and forth and then we’ll

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now be able to go back to our
regularly scheduled programming

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of every three weeks.
We’re excited to have Jason on.

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I hope that you enjoy his first
talk that he has picked.

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It’s going to be great to to
have him on board with the

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podcast.
With that, I will do just a

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quick introduction into Brother
Matt Texan’s class.

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This was sent in as a
recommendation.

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The title of this first class is
Faith and Anxiety and is

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actually the overall subject for
the four classes that he gave.

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There were three classes with an
exhortation in the middle.

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And what I really appreciated
about this class is Brother Matt

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One.
He is speaking from a place of

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experience.
So he is speaking from a place

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of struggle that he has in his
own life and he’s had to work

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through, which I always find to
be really valuable when hearing

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from a speaker that they have
first hand experience in

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whatever topic they are teaching
about.

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And that he takes a really
practical look at sort of the

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struggles you can face when you
have anxiety and how that can

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impact your faith.
In the same way that any

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struggle that you might have in
your life with any sort of

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temptation or sin can have an
impact, but anxiety has this way

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of.
Impacting you in ways that other

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temptations and sins might not
otherwise do.

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So I really appreciated this.
The sister that wrote in to

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recommend this really gave an
excellent recommendation.

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She also suggested that the
first class was a great place to

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start, which hopefully in most
class series it is.

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So I hope that you really enjoy
this.

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I found it to be a really
powerful one and even just

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approaching it in his way of
looking at how the different

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stages of struggling with
something can impact you and

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where at what stage we should be
focusing our efforts.

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I found to be really really
encouraging.

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All four of the classes are
excellent.

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We will have them up on the good
Christadelphian Talks extended

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podcast feed and then in the
second class he mentions A

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handout.
Now the second class isn’t going

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to be on the podcast but I will
make sure to have it LinkedIn

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the good Christadelphian talks
extended feed.

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So if you want to look at the
handout he represents there, I

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would highly encourage take a
look at it and you give it a

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listen.
This entire series I’d recommend

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because he does a very good kind
of systematic looking at each

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step.
That I found to be really

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encouraging and a good reminder
for myself and just general

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walk.
And then also I think it is a

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good reminder for you to be able
to do if you or somebody you

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know struggles with some of
these same types of things.

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As always, thank you for the
recommendations and suggestions.

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We really, really appreciate
them and I hope that you enjoy

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the first class from brother
Matt Tuckson on his series

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entitled Faith and Anxiety.
So this week and my ultimate

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goal, I’ll give you a one liner.
What is my goal for this weekend

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is to show you the agency that
you have in this battle so that

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you have some amount of power,
have some amount of influence

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over this battle.
It’s not something that’s

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happening to you, you’re you
actually get to participate in

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it.
You get to actually fight the

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battle of anxiety actively to
show you what can you do, get

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really practical and what are
the steps to do with anxiety.

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We have a lot to cover to get
into that.

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Before I enter our series, I
want to do a few discliners.

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Anxiety has a wide range.
We have a little nervous about

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giving a talk to I’m super panic
attack can’t function.

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You know, normal things don’t
really happen to my brain

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because I can’t function right
now.

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There’s a whole range, right?
And the the lessons I’m going to

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be talking about, the principles
I talk about, they do apply to

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the whole range.
So they’re going to apply very

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differently and they’re going to
look very different depending on

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where in this range you kind of
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And we’ll we’ll talk about the
nuances somewhat in the series.

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One thing I’m not going to get
too detailed on to is like the

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medical side of anxiety of like
when to take medication and not

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and things like that.
I do want to be very clear.

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I’m pro medication for the
extreme cases of anxiety.

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I take it myself sometimes.
I have a prescription for it.

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I use it every now and then, but
I’m just not going to be getting

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into where’s that line and the
nuance.

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My point of that simply to say I
think it should be on the table

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of discussion.
It’s actually going to be on the

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table of discussion on our
discussion groups.

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So I look forward to this
hearing that from you all.

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But I’m not going to really
getting that nuance of when you

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take medication, what are you
not.

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I will talk about how I view it
in kind of a moral framework

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later on, but I’m not going to
be getting into the details of

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like, well by this point you
should go see a doctor.

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That’s not really what the class
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The other disclaimer I want to
do work before we get into our

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intro is the phrase easier said
than done is going to be

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extremely applicable to the
series.

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I can’t really talk about
anxiety, which is something that

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you might battle with your whole
life in four hours and do it

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justice.
It’s just not a way to do that.

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On top of that, I’m going to be
approaching this on a very kind

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of logical thought out process.
And anxiety is an extremely

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emotional situation and it can
come off really unapathetic when

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I’m like, all right, here’s how
you logic your way through this.

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When I’m dealing with this
really kind of volatile emotion.

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And so my that’s not my
intention.

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I’m going to make that very
clear.

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My intention is not to say,
well, just think your way

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through it, but we are going to
be approaching this from a very

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logical biblical point of view.
It’s not my intention.

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I understand that’s best not
easiest have been done.

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I’m going to reiterate that a
few times.

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But I understand the challenge
of anxiety.

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I understand it’s an emotional
thing, and I understand easier

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said than done is going to be
really applicable.

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There’s just not a way I can
change that and still go through

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this in a kind of logical,
analytical way, which is what I

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think we need to do when we’re
not in the state of anxiety.

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We need to be thinking of it in
that kind of logical, analytical

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way.
When we get into anxiety, it’s a

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different story.
All right, So with this

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disclaimer is out of the way,
we’re going to go ahead and

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intro our class or at least
intro our series.

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So class one is going to be Go
ahead I.

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Forgot about your reading, so
I’m going to end up reading it

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later, so no worries.
So class one is faith and

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anxiety.
That’s for this class.

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What motivated this class was
essentially kind of both being

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in.
For those who don’t know, I was

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in mainstream Christianity for a
while, so both being in

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mainstream Christianity as well
as not Christadelphia.

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I’ve heard two different
stories, largely when it comes

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to anxiety.
One is that it’s 100% about

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faith, and if you don’t, if you
have anxiety, the other reason

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you have anxiety is because you
don’t believe hard enough, you

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don’t have enough faith.
You need to pray more, you need

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to believe harder.
That’s the solution to anxiety,

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and it’s entirely focused on
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Anxiety equals bad faith, and
it’s just that kind of blunt and

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simple and kind of extreme.
Then there’s the reaction to

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that, which is that anxiety is
entirely a medical problem.

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There’s nothing about faith.
It’s like the mental equivalent

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to breaking a bone.
You need to go to the doctor for

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it, and that’s how you deal with
your anxieties through

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medication.
It’s through therapy and things

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like that.
It’s not about faith.

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The Bible doesn’t agree with
really either of those.

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And so we’re going to be digging
into what is the relationship

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between faith and anxiety.
The Bible just connect the two.

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So what is it?
How do I think about it?

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And then on top of that, if
there’s a connection between

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faith and anxiety, how does
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How do I feel guilty when I have
anxiety?

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Should I feel guilty?
Should I not?

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Those kinds of questions,
because I know guilt and anxiety

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are heavily associated with in a
faith context.

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So we’re going to try to be
dealing with when should I feel

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guilty, when shouldn’t I, and
how do I think through that

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class?
One really is about

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understanding how I should view
anxiety in a moral framework.

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Essentially is the goal of class
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Class 2 is to be the processing
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Now that I understand how I view
it, how to think about it, what

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is anxiety inside of a moral
framework?

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What do I do about it?
That’s going to be Class 2.

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We’re going to be going through
a couple steps of dealing with

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anxiety or dealing with kind of
the biblical framework of how to

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deal with anxiety.
We’re going to be looking

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through mostly David’s life and
see how he deals with it

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multiple different stages in his
life, and he deals with it in a

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very similar pattern.
He has a pattern of how he

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processes anxiety.
So we’re going to go through

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that pattern and we’re going to
see what does he do.

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We’re going to think about how
that might apply to our lives.

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In some ways, when we get to our
expectation, we’re going to be

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dealing with Christ’s battle
with anxiety because he deals

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with it as well, and he deals
with it in a very similar way

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how David deals with it.
And so we’re going to be looking

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at how Christ deals with
anxiety, how he processes his

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own anxiety, and we’re going to
go ahead and think about how

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does that apply to us.
And the cool thing about

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Christ’s story is you actually
see that it gets easier as you

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process it, more as you put the
steps into practice.

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The battle actually gets easier.
Doesn’t mean it goes away, but

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it does get easier.
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Christ’s battle.
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of a tangently related idea,
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of anxiety.
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conversation with gnomes,
actually, about what is a common

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thing of people struggle with
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And she said having purpose,
feeling purpose, feeling

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fulfilled.
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that and kind of use that as a
use case of what do you do if

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you have that anxiety?
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What does it look like?
What is our purpose?

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How do I examine my purpose?
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4.
As you can tell, we’ve got a lot

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to cover, so we’re going to be
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start with reading Matthew
Chapter 6, verses 16 to 34.

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Again, that’s Matthew chapter 6
verses 16 to 34.

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OK, starting at verse 16,
whenever you fast, do not put on

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a gloomy face as the hypocrites
do, for they neglect their

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appearance, so they will be
sorry.

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They neglect their appearance so
that they will be noticed by men

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when they are fasting.
Truly, I say to you, they have

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their reward in full.
But you when you fast and hold

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your head and wash your face, so
that in fasting, when you will

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not be noticed by men, but by
your father, who is in secret,

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and your father, who sees what
is done in secret, will reward

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you.
Do not store up for yourselves

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treasures on earth, where moth
and rust destroy, and where

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thieves break in and steal, but
store up for yourselves

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treasures in heaven, where
neither moth nor rust destroy,

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where thieves do not break in
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For where your treasure is, that
your heart will be.

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Also the eyes is the lamp of the
body, And then if your eye is

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clear, your whole body will be a
full of light.

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But if your eye is bad, your
whole body will be full of

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darkness.
Within the light that is in you

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is darkness.
How great is that darkness?

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No one can serve 2 masters, for
either he will hate the one and

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love the other, or he’ll be
devoted to one and despise the

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other.
You cannot serve God and wealth.

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For this reason I say to you, do
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as to what you will eat or what
you will drink, nor for your

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body as to what you will put on.
Is not life more than food in

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the body, more than clothing?
Look at the birds of the air,

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that they do not sow, nor reap,
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And here your heavenly Father
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Are you not worth much more than
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And who are you by being who?
Who of you by being worried, can

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add a single hour to his life?
And why are you worried about

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clothing?
Observe how the lilies of the

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field grow.
They do not toil, nor do they

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spin.
Yet I say to you that not even

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Solomon, all of his glory,
clothes themselves like one of

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these.
But if God said, close the grass

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of the field which is alive
today and tomorrow, and tomorrow

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is thrown into the furnace,
really not much more clothe you,

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you have little faith.
Do not worry them.

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Saying what?
What will we eat?

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What will we drink?
What will we wear?

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For clothing for the Gentiles
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for your heavenly Father knows
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You need all these things.
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His righteousness, and all these
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Do not worry about tomorrow, for
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itself.
Each day has some trouble.

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All right, so this this section
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it.
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because of verse 30.
I’m just going to reread that

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one.
But if God so close the glass of

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the field which which today is
live and tomorrow some of the

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oven really not much more close
you owe you of little faith.

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Jesus is telling people I don’t
want us to put ourselves in that

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scenario.
Jesus is telling people who are

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anxious over base needs food and
clothing that if you’re worried

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about that oh ye have little
faith that’s jarring.

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Like if I was in that scenario,
like, Jesus chill.

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Like there are a lot to be
anxious about that that makes

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sense.
Like that’s my that I’d be

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really like, we need to be OK
with this.

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Let’s have some kind of empathy
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But Jesus doesn’t approach it
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It says, O ye of little faith.
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why?
Why do these people have little

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faith for having this anxiety,
for having this word And how do

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we look at that?
How do we approach that?

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But first note, he doesn’t say
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I think it’s really important.
Being anxious or having anxiety

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in the scenario doesn’t tell
Jesus they’re faithless people.

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No, they have faith.
They just have room for

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improvement or something to work
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And that’s a very important
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It’s not that these people are
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Anxiety doesn’t mean you’re some
terrible person who doesn’t

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believe, but it doesn’t mean
there’s opportunities to work.

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There’s room for improvement
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And so we’ll look at kind of
what is that work, what is that

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room for improvement?
And lucky for us, Christ leaves

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a great hint at the start of
verse 25.

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Verse 25 starts with Therefore I
tell you, whenever you see that

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word or hear that word,
therefore or wherefore those

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kinds of language means, read
what I just said.

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That’s the reason I’m saying
what I’m saying because of what

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I just said.
So the reason that Jesus can say

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do not be anxious about your
life is because of what he says

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and what we’ve read before.
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So we’re just going to start
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through what is Jesus saying
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And then we’ll think about how
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So in verse 16 I’ll just read
the 1st 3 verses.

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And when you fast, do not look
gloomy like the hypocrites, for

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they disfigure their face and
they’re fast.

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That their fasting may be seen
by others.

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Surely I say to you, they’ve
received their reward.

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But when you fast, anoint your
head and wash your face that

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your fasting may not be seen by
others but by your father, who

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is in secret, and your father,
who sees in secrets, will award

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you.
So let’s face the section seems

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to be telling you how to fast.
That’s not really what it’s

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getting at.
It’s not really getting at.

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This is how you should go about
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The real point is that we should
value God’s point of view, God’s

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opinion of us, more than man’s
opinion of us, and that this is

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just an example of how these
people are valuing man’s opinion

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over God’s opinion By saying I
care more that people recognize

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me fasting than I care
necessarily if God is looking at

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me fasting.
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people recognizing me?
And So what this is getting at

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is essentially an idea of
values.

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Do you value God’s point of view
or God’s opinion or man’s

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opinion of you?
What do you value more?

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What’s more important to you?
So it seems like it’s about

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fasting.
It’s not really, it’s actually

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about values.
What is more important to you,

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God’s point of view or man’s?
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we’ll see a similar theme.
In verse 19 it says do not earth

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19 to 24.
Do not lay up for yourselves.

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Treasure on earth or moth and
rust destroyed, where thieves

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break in and steal the lay up
for yourselves.

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Treasure in heaven where neither
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Or if thieves do not break in
and steal for where your

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treasure is, there your heart
will be.

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Also, the eye is the lamp of the
body, so if your eye is healthy,

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the whole body will be full of
light.

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But if your eye is bad, your
whole body is full of darkness.

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And if then the light in you is
darkness, how great is that

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darkness?
No one can serve 2 masters, for

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you either will hate the one or
love the other, or he will be

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devoted to the one and despise
the other.

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You cannot serve God and money.
And again, at first this seems

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to be saying, OK, what should I
value more as far as money goes?

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As soon as you’re talking about
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But again, that’s not really the
focus.

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It’s not really about money,
it’s about internal values.

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Do you value things on earth or
do you value things in heaven?

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Do you value things of God or do
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We know this because he says lay
up yourselves treasures in

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heaven.
It’s not saying there’s some

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Stock Exchange in heaven that I
should go invest in.

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He’s talking about what you care
about, where your heart is or

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where your treasure is.
Sorry, that is where your heart

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will be.
Also, he’s saying, do you care

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about the things?
What do you value?

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What’s important to you?
The things on earth where moths

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and what destroys.
Do you steal or do you care and

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value things in heaven?
The eternal again it’s talking

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about values.
Both sections are trying to get

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us to change how we evaluate
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How we go from evaluating things
from kind of man’s point of

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view.
I care what’s right in front of

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me.
I care about how people view me.

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I care about money and my basic
needs.

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This is what I care about kind
of God’s point of view.

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I care about the eternal.
I care about God’s opinion of

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me.
I care about what’s everlasting,

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not the temporary.
It’s trying to get us to change

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how we evaluate things.
This brings us to a concept that

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I like to call value systems.
Essentially, it’s this idea of

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how do you value things, How do
you find things important.

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It’s similar to the idea of
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And then on top of that, it’s
how do they interact with each

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other?
So not just do I value

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something, but do I value it
more or less than something

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else?
And then as situations happen in

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my life, do these values change?
Do I value other things more or

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less?
This is essentially a value

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system that you have that’s
constantly changing.

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When you get in situations, what
you care about may change a

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little bit because that
situation is happening to you.

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And so that’s kind of what we’re
looking at is value systems is

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essentially this idea of what is
important to you in a specific

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moment.
And again, that might change as

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different moments happen.
And this doesn’t just have to do

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with religious beliefs.
It’s not just God versus man.

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It might be today I really care
about if I’m on time but

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tomorrow I don’t.
But very different things can

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can fall in this value system.
It’s not just religious things

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are important things that’s kind
of the whole range of everything

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going on in life.
And what this sections that

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we’ve read up to now we’re
trying to say evaluate things so

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that the eternal so that the
everlasting so that God’s point

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of view is up in the top of that
value system.

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It’s very high in your priority
list and that the temporary, the

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the man’s point of view and all
those things are a bit lower in

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that in that value system and
what you find important.

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And Jesus uses this to say this
is the reason they can say do

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not be anxious for your life,
huh?

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OK Why?
And I think this makes a lot of

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sense because what Jesus is
getting at is that the reason

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these people are anxious is
because there’s actually

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something off in that moment of
anxiety with their values, with

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what’s important to them.
This is something that was told

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to me.
I used to go to therapy for

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anxiety, and this was something
that, although it came from a

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humanistic point of view, when
you kind of put your God filter

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on, you can turn it into a
really cool lesson.

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And that is that our anxieties
come from essentially deep and

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personal cares.
When you’re anxious about

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something because you care a lot
about something related to that

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anxiety.
It might not be directly that

436
00:22:02,480 –> 00:22:05,320
anxiety or that thing that’s in
front of you, but it’s something

437
00:22:05,320 –> 00:22:07,880
related to it and you care a lot
about it.

438
00:22:08,520 –> 00:22:11,880
So for example, if I had social
anxiety, it means I have a

439
00:22:11,880 –> 00:22:15,440
strong care for something
related to social situations.

440
00:22:15,760 –> 00:22:18,560
It might not be that I care
about social situations, but I

441
00:22:18,560 –> 00:22:21,280
might be that I care about being
respected, that there’s a threat

442
00:22:21,280 –> 00:22:23,640
to that respect.
If I’m in a social situation, it

443
00:22:24,400 –> 00:22:26,560
might be that I care about being
approved of, or it might be that

444
00:22:26,560 –> 00:22:28,480
I care about not being
embarrassed.

445
00:22:28,480 –> 00:22:30,400
You know, I’ve had a really bad
event in my life where I was

446
00:22:30,440 –> 00:22:32,280
embarrassed in my life.
I don’t want that to happen

447
00:22:32,280 –> 00:22:33,760
again.
And there’s a chance that might

448
00:22:33,760 –> 00:22:37,440
happen in a social scenario.
And these cares, these deep

449
00:22:37,440 –> 00:22:42,080
cares, push this anxiety at the
top of my list of my value

450
00:22:42,080 –> 00:22:44,680
system.
Now all of a sudden, when I’m

451
00:22:44,720 –> 00:22:48,200
afraid of this embarrassment,
not being embarrassed now

452
00:22:48,200 –> 00:22:51,040
matters more to me than anything
else because I’m anxious about

453
00:22:51,040 –> 00:22:53,400
it.
It’s causing me to to have

454
00:22:53,440 –> 00:22:56,960
physical reactions where I care
about this, whatever this thing

455
00:22:56,960 –> 00:23:00,280
is that’s causing me anxiety, it
goes to the top of my values in

456
00:23:00,280 –> 00:23:03,520
that moment.
It’s not a thought out priority.

457
00:23:03,560 –> 00:23:05,440
It’s not a priority where I
thought, written out my

458
00:23:05,440 –> 00:23:08,000
priorities and gone.
This is how I would order them.

459
00:23:08,560 –> 00:23:12,040
It’s not a planned value system.
It’s one that happens in the

460
00:23:12,040 –> 00:23:15,320
moment because you’re anxious
and it comes from human nature.

461
00:23:15,400 –> 00:23:17,200
It’s not something that you’ve
thought out, planned and said

462
00:23:17,200 –> 00:23:18,440
no, I’m going to care about this
more.

463
00:23:18,440 –> 00:23:20,040
It’s something that’s happening
to you.

464
00:23:20,040 –> 00:23:21,960
You can choose to value that
more at the moment.

465
00:23:22,160 –> 00:23:24,680
Your anxiety is kind of telling
you this thing.

466
00:23:24,840 –> 00:23:27,440
Whatever you’re anxious about is
the most important thing.

467
00:23:27,560 –> 00:23:29,600
It’s all you should think about.
It’s more important than

468
00:23:29,600 –> 00:23:32,120
anything else, and that’s why we
get so worried.

469
00:23:32,560 –> 00:23:37,480
Physical reactions to the idea
and what Jesus is doing in the

470
00:23:37,480 –> 00:23:40,560
section is he’s saying these
people there’s something off of

471
00:23:40,560 –> 00:23:44,040
their values if they’re anxious
even about things that are as

472
00:23:44,240 –> 00:23:49,240
needed as food and clothing.
And the reason is because God is

473
00:23:49,240 –> 00:23:51,280
going to take care of them.
God has said he will take care

474
00:23:51,280 –> 00:23:54,280
of them, and he explains this in
verses 26 and 30.

475
00:23:55,320 –> 00:23:59,240
Look at the birds of the air.
They neither sow nor reap when

476
00:23:59,240 –> 00:24:01,600
we’re gathering to barns, Yet
your Heavenly Father feeds them.

477
00:24:02,120 –> 00:24:03,440
Are you not of more value than
they?

478
00:24:03,440 –> 00:24:07,960
And then 30 But if God clothes
the grass of the field which

479
00:24:07,960 –> 00:24:10,800
today is alive and tomorrow is
thrown in the oven, will not

480
00:24:10,800 –> 00:24:15,080
much more clothe you?
Essentially, Jesus is saying

481
00:24:15,560 –> 00:24:19,840
that there’s God who values us
as people more than he values

482
00:24:19,840 –> 00:24:22,360
grass and birds.
He values us so much that he

483
00:24:22,360 –> 00:24:24,760
gave his only Son for us.
And if he values us this much,

484
00:24:25,080 –> 00:24:27,440
it takes care of other things
that he values less than he’ll

485
00:24:27,600 –> 00:24:31,120
take care of you.
And if we truly believed that,

486
00:24:31,400 –> 00:24:33,880
if that’s an actual true belief
to the point where it impacts

487
00:24:33,880 –> 00:24:37,520
our feelings moment to moment,
well then we wouldn’t be anxious

488
00:24:37,680 –> 00:24:40,320
because we would internally have
accepted that that’s a true

489
00:24:40,320 –> 00:24:44,080
statement and that their concern
of not having food wouldn’t be

490
00:24:44,080 –> 00:24:47,560
there.
Now, like I said, easier said

491
00:24:47,560 –> 00:24:52,600
than done.
This is giving us insight into

492
00:24:52,600 –> 00:24:54,760
the relationship between faith
and anxiety, but we haven’t

493
00:24:54,760 –> 00:24:56,160
really gotten to how do we deal
with that yet.

494
00:24:57,240 –> 00:24:59,520
The thing is, anxiety
essentially makes us value

495
00:24:59,520 –> 00:25:03,800
things way more than we should.
And it’s because it’s it’s part

496
00:25:03,800 –> 00:25:06,440
of our human nature.
But we’ll look into in a bit.

497
00:25:06,440 –> 00:25:08,400
We’re not quite there, but we’re
going to look into how anxiety

498
00:25:08,400 –> 00:25:12,720
is essentially A temptation.
It it causes us to miss value

499
00:25:12,720 –> 00:25:15,480
things, miss evaluate things
because it’s telling us.

500
00:25:15,480 –> 00:25:17,360
It’s lying to us and saying
whatever it is that we’re

501
00:25:17,360 –> 00:25:18,960
interested about.
Social situations.

502
00:25:18,960 –> 00:25:21,240
Anything else?
I’ll tell my personal story here

503
00:25:21,240 –> 00:25:24,360
in a minute.
It tells us to value it as the

504
00:25:24,400 –> 00:25:28,400
highest thing, but then we think
through what is God value that

505
00:25:28,400 –> 00:25:30,640
thing at the top.
Really, it shouldn’t be there.

506
00:25:31,520 –> 00:25:33,680
But in the moment, our anxiety
is telling us that is the most

507
00:25:33,680 –> 00:25:35,480
important thing.
That’s the biggest, most

508
00:25:35,480 –> 00:25:36,640
important thing to you in this
moment.

509
00:25:37,200 –> 00:25:39,240
That is essentially what anxiety
is doing.

510
00:25:39,240 –> 00:25:41,520
And that’s why there’s a
relationship between anxiety and

511
00:25:41,520 –> 00:25:43,720
faith.
It’s not that anxiety and faith

512
00:25:43,720 –> 00:25:46,680
are just connected one to one.
It’s that there’s this thing in

513
00:25:46,680 –> 00:25:51,080
the middle of values and the
values is the connector between

514
00:25:51,080 –> 00:25:54,440
faith and anxiety.
The reason anxiety messes with

515
00:25:54,440 –> 00:25:57,400
our faith, it’s being that
changes our values.

516
00:25:57,400 –> 00:26:00,000
It changes what you care about,
changes what’s at the top of the

517
00:26:00,000 –> 00:26:01,800
list.
And like I said, this changes a

518
00:26:01,800 –> 00:26:03,800
lot.
If you’re anxious, this thing

519
00:26:03,800 –> 00:26:05,440
that you’re anxious about move
to the top of the list.

520
00:26:06,000 –> 00:26:08,440
When you’re later not anxious,
it’s not that high, it’s much

521
00:26:08,440 –> 00:26:10,400
lower because these things
change.

522
00:26:10,400 –> 00:26:12,640
These are moment to moment.
I’m not talking about your your

523
00:26:12,640 –> 00:26:15,160
planned out priorities.
When you sit down and you you do

524
00:26:15,160 –> 00:26:17,120
a chart and you say what’s more
important to me and how do I

525
00:26:17,120 –> 00:26:19,200
structure my life.
I’m talking about your moment to

526
00:26:19,200 –> 00:26:21,840
moment values, the moment to
moment of what’s important to

527
00:26:21,840 –> 00:26:23,480
you.
And anxiety essentially tells

528
00:26:23,480 –> 00:26:26,000
you change those values.
That thing that you’re anxious

529
00:26:26,000 –> 00:26:30,200
about needs to be at the top.
In my personal story, I really

530
00:26:30,200 –> 00:26:33,440
experienced this.
So a bit of background.

531
00:26:33,640 –> 00:26:38,400
My parents got divorced when I
was 13, and the way they got

532
00:26:38,400 –> 00:26:40,600
divorced really kind of messed
me up a bit.

533
00:26:41,280 –> 00:26:46,480
See, they they got divorced in a
way where one day, happy family,

534
00:26:47,360 –> 00:26:51,360
my mom, my dad were seemed fine.
Dad would come home from work,

535
00:26:51,760 –> 00:26:53,320
they’d get hugged, maybe a heck
on the cheek.

536
00:26:53,560 –> 00:26:56,320
Seemed fine, no arguments.
Never had any clue that anything

537
00:26:56,320 –> 00:26:59,560
was going on.
Next day, like I told, yeah,

538
00:26:59,560 –> 00:27:02,720
we’re we’re having a divorce.
And what that did to me is

539
00:27:02,720 –> 00:27:06,000
essentially goes gotcha.
So a relationship can break up

540
00:27:06,240 –> 00:27:09,560
at the drop of a hat like just
like that, that we can do it

541
00:27:09,560 –> 00:27:13,000
from perfect great relationship
to it’s over just like that.

542
00:27:13,880 –> 00:27:16,120
And that’s what that’s what it
became an ingrained belief,

543
00:27:16,120 –> 00:27:17,600
right.
That’s what I kind of took with

544
00:27:17,600 –> 00:27:19,600
from that.
And then in my future

545
00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:24,440
relationships for years, I felt
like that the first instance,

546
00:27:24,440 –> 00:27:26,160
anything would go even remotely
wrong.

547
00:27:26,160 –> 00:27:29,040
An argument even.
Like, usually the the person I’d

548
00:27:29,040 –> 00:27:31,520
be dating would be generally a
happy person and they had like a

549
00:27:31,520 –> 00:27:32,840
bad day.
It wasn’t even, like a problem

550
00:27:32,840 –> 00:27:33,920
with me.
It was just like they just

551
00:27:33,920 –> 00:27:36,040
seemed off.
Oh my goodness, is this

552
00:27:36,040 –> 00:27:38,040
happening to me?
Is this the the drop of the hat?

553
00:27:38,040 –> 00:27:39,160
Is this the end of the
relationship?

554
00:27:39,360 –> 00:27:41,560
Panic, panic, panic, panic,
anxiety.

555
00:27:43,160 –> 00:27:46,360
And what that did for me is
essentially say, making this

556
00:27:46,360 –> 00:27:49,360
relationship stick together is
the top of the list.

557
00:27:49,360 –> 00:27:51,280
It’s more important than
anything else.

558
00:27:51,760 –> 00:27:55,120
It’s more important than is this
relationship good for me, it’s

559
00:27:55,120 –> 00:27:57,960
more important than should I
actually be dating this person?

560
00:27:58,440 –> 00:28:00,680
It’s more important to then do I
even like this person?

561
00:28:01,200 –> 00:28:03,200
It was more important than
anything else.

562
00:28:03,720 –> 00:28:06,120
I needed to make sure that
relationship slept together

563
00:28:06,360 –> 00:28:08,240
because panic, panic, panic,
panic.

564
00:28:08,240 –> 00:28:10,360
That’s what was going on in my
head.

565
00:28:11,680 –> 00:28:13,920
And as I mentioned, I went to
the Thera Confess for a while

566
00:28:14,680 –> 00:28:18,800
and again, this is 1 potential
danger of going to the therapy

567
00:28:18,800 –> 00:28:20,160
and there’s a lot of value that
comes from it.

568
00:28:20,160 –> 00:28:22,120
I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s
great, highly recommend if you

569
00:28:22,120 –> 00:28:24,200
need it.
But one danger is that you get a

570
00:28:24,200 –> 00:28:26,720
lot of humanism kind of thrown
in the in the mix.

571
00:28:26,720 –> 00:28:28,360
So you have to have a God filter
on.

572
00:28:29,200 –> 00:28:31,800
But one of the things that they
had said, and they asked me one

573
00:28:31,800 –> 00:28:35,000
time that really just made me
step back, was, do you actually

574
00:28:35,000 –> 00:28:37,560
want to be in this relationship
talking about a specific issue

575
00:28:37,560 –> 00:28:38,600
that I was dealing with at the
time?

576
00:28:39,440 –> 00:28:42,360
The the relationship was really
bad at communication.

577
00:28:42,360 –> 00:28:44,040
The person didn’t really talk to
me a whole lot.

578
00:28:44,240 –> 00:28:46,280
That was causing me a lot of
anxiety because my priority was

579
00:28:46,280 –> 00:28:49,720
to make this work.
My priority was have had it not

580
00:28:49,720 –> 00:28:51,080
happened what my parents
happened.

581
00:28:51,480 –> 00:28:53,160
Don’t avoid that situation of
all costs.

582
00:28:53,440 –> 00:28:56,640
Most important, the relationship
wasn’t a good relationship for

583
00:28:56,640 –> 00:28:58,680
me.
We actually didn’t need to be

584
00:28:58,680 –> 00:28:59,920
together.
We weren’t a good fit.

585
00:29:00,560 –> 00:29:03,800
But I couldn’t think through
that because I was anxious about

586
00:29:03,800 –> 00:29:06,800
keeping it together.
And so that was my priority.

587
00:29:06,800 –> 00:29:08,520
And that’s the problem with
anxiety.

588
00:29:08,520 –> 00:29:09,840
So why anxiety messes with
faith?

589
00:29:10,000 –> 00:29:11,120
Because I wasn’t thinking
through.

590
00:29:11,520 –> 00:29:13,680
Is this relationship a good
relationship to mimic Christ in

591
00:29:13,680 –> 00:29:15,440
the Ecclesia?
I wasn’t thinking through.

592
00:29:15,440 –> 00:29:17,920
Is this relationship a good
relationship to raise kids in?

593
00:29:17,920 –> 00:29:19,160
The truth, I wasn’t thinking
through.

594
00:29:19,160 –> 00:29:22,120
Is this relationship something
that’s going to help me be more

595
00:29:22,120 –> 00:29:24,080
like Christ and help her be more
like Christ?

596
00:29:24,320 –> 00:29:26,760
Those thoughts were not in my
brain when I was freaking out

597
00:29:26,760 –> 00:29:29,000
about.
Is this something that I, you

598
00:29:29,000 –> 00:29:31,720
know, something going wrong?
Panic, panic, panic.

599
00:29:32,440 –> 00:29:35,280
When I sit back and think about
it, those are at the top of my

600
00:29:35,280 –> 00:29:37,800
list.
But in the moment of anxiety,

601
00:29:38,320 –> 00:29:41,200
those drop, keep it together,
goes to the top.

602
00:29:42,240 –> 00:29:45,160
And that’s why that’s the
relationship between anxiety and

603
00:29:45,160 –> 00:29:47,520
faith.
That’s the problem of anxiety

604
00:29:47,520 –> 00:29:49,840
and why Christ can say, oh, you
have a little faith.

605
00:29:49,840 –> 00:29:53,000
Because in that moment I’m
saying faith takes a back, step

606
00:29:53,040 –> 00:29:56,320
back, step, the back seat and my
anxiety takes the front.

607
00:29:56,840 –> 00:29:58,960
Anxiety becomes the the, the
focus.

608
00:29:59,440 –> 00:30:01,280
That’s why anxiety relates to
faith.

609
00:30:02,120 –> 00:30:06,040
That’s the reason that Jesus can
say, owe you a little faith when

610
00:30:06,040 –> 00:30:10,200
dealing with anxiety.
Now, that might seem harsh, but

611
00:30:10,200 –> 00:30:14,400
it’s not that different than
other temptations, not that

612
00:30:14,400 –> 00:30:19,200
different than anger or lust.
And I think that’s why Jesus

613
00:30:19,200 –> 00:30:22,960
puts the section of anxiety in
the Sermon of the Mount after

614
00:30:22,960 –> 00:30:27,800
talking about anger and lust.
And so there’s actually a lot of

615
00:30:28,560 –> 00:30:32,240
crossover of how we should think
about temptation, or how we

616
00:30:32,240 –> 00:30:34,960
should think about anxiety with
how we should think about anger

617
00:30:34,960 –> 00:30:36,560
and lust.
They they do very similar

618
00:30:36,560 –> 00:30:38,320
things.
Anger, essentially.

619
00:30:38,320 –> 00:30:42,000
When I get angry about something
is my human nature telling me

620
00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:45,920
whatever I’m angry about is
worth being angry about, but I’m

621
00:30:45,920 –> 00:30:47,280
justified in being angry about
it.

622
00:30:47,280 –> 00:30:49,280
It’s telling me that it’s
important enough that I should

623
00:30:49,280 –> 00:30:52,160
be mad about it, and I’m
important enough that it’s worth

624
00:30:52,160 –> 00:30:54,240
getting mad about it.
It’s some it’s lying to me in

625
00:30:54,240 –> 00:30:56,120
some way.
It’s telling me something is

626
00:30:56,160 –> 00:30:58,800
that is actually bad.
Well, it’s telling me it’s good.

627
00:30:59,720 –> 00:31:02,960
Lost is very similar.
It’s my human nature telling me

628
00:31:02,960 –> 00:31:05,760
this bad thing that I shouldn’t
want is actually something you

629
00:31:05,760 –> 00:31:08,360
should want.
It’s my human nature telling me

630
00:31:08,360 –> 00:31:11,280
that I should evaluate things
differently than how God

631
00:31:11,280 –> 00:31:14,120
evaluates things.
Zion is the same.

632
00:31:15,000 –> 00:31:17,960
Zion says evaluate things
differently than how God

633
00:31:17,960 –> 00:31:21,080
evaluates things.
Evaluate things in a way that’s

634
00:31:21,160 –> 00:31:24,200
that’s wrong, that’s incorrect.
But I’m going to make you do it.

635
00:31:24,400 –> 00:31:26,280
I’ll make it the most important,
and I’m going to tempt you to do

636
00:31:26,280 –> 00:31:28,880
it.
And This is why I say anxiety

637
00:31:29,240 –> 00:31:32,200
assembly by temptation.
And so when we look at it in

638
00:31:32,200 –> 00:31:34,720
that vein, the question becomes,
how do we think about guilt?

639
00:31:36,120 –> 00:31:38,760
How do we think about guilt in
the context of anxiety?

640
00:31:39,640 –> 00:31:42,120
I think this is important
because when we say that faith

641
00:31:42,600 –> 00:31:47,800
and anxiety are related and that
having anxiety suggests there’s

642
00:31:47,800 –> 00:31:50,760
issues in our faith, well that
makes me feel really guilty.

643
00:31:51,040 –> 00:31:54,360
When I have anxiety, that makes
me feel like, well, I didn’t

644
00:31:54,360 –> 00:31:56,280
choose this, I didn’t want to
have anxiety.

645
00:31:56,280 –> 00:31:57,880
I didn’t ask for it.
Yeah.

646
00:31:57,880 –> 00:31:59,480
Apparently when I have it, I
have a faith problem.

647
00:31:59,920 –> 00:32:02,880
That’s not fair.
And now I’m a bad person because

648
00:32:02,880 –> 00:32:05,360
I have anxiety.
You start going through this

649
00:32:05,360 –> 00:32:09,240
kind of rabbit hole of pot.
And so I want to make sure that

650
00:32:09,240 –> 00:32:11,200
we have a really proper
understanding of how guilt works

651
00:32:11,200 –> 00:32:13,680
with this because I don’t want
people to walk away from here

652
00:32:13,680 –> 00:32:17,320
and going And he said that that
I I’m, I’m of little faith if I

653
00:32:17,560 –> 00:32:19,320
have anxiety, I must be a
terrible person.

654
00:32:19,320 –> 00:32:20,600
And that’s the take away from
the weekend.

655
00:32:20,720 –> 00:32:23,320
That would be terrible.
And so that’s not the take away.

656
00:32:23,320 –> 00:32:26,600
And we’re to look at how do I
deal with guilt when it comes to

657
00:32:26,600 –> 00:32:30,000
anxiety.
So if anxiety is a temptation, I

658
00:32:30,000 –> 00:32:32,480
think it’s really valuable to
think about other temptations

659
00:32:32,840 –> 00:32:36,840
and how guilt work with them and
then apply those ideas into

660
00:32:36,840 –> 00:32:39,120
anxiety and say so.
It probably works the same way

661
00:32:39,520 –> 00:32:41,360
with anxiety if anxiety is a
temptation.

662
00:32:41,920 –> 00:32:43,800
And so in doing that, we’re
going to read 3 sections and

663
00:32:43,800 –> 00:32:45,240
we’re going to see what can we
take away from them.

664
00:32:46,080 –> 00:32:49,280
Section one is going to be
Matthew 5, verses 21 and 22.

665
00:32:52,640 –> 00:33:03,160
So Matthew 5 verses 21 and 22,
you have heard that it was said

666
00:33:03,160 –> 00:33:06,280
of those of old you shall not
murder, and whoever murders will

667
00:33:06,280 –> 00:33:09,120
be liable of judgement.
But I say to you that who?

668
00:33:09,120 –> 00:33:12,200
Anyone who is angry with his
brother will be liable to

669
00:33:12,200 –> 00:33:14,720
judgement.
Whoever insults his brother will

670
00:33:14,720 –> 00:33:17,360
be liable to the council.
Whoever says you fool will be

671
00:33:17,360 –> 00:33:20,920
liable to Hellfire.
And then we’re going to be a

672
00:33:20,920 –> 00:33:23,360
little bit further down, verses
27 to 30.

673
00:33:26,080 –> 00:33:28,080
You have heard that it was said
you shall not commit adultery.

674
00:33:28,600 –> 00:33:30,960
But I say to you that everyone
who looks at a woman with

675
00:33:30,960 –> 00:33:34,120
lustful intent has already
committed adultery with her in

676
00:33:34,120 –> 00:33:36,680
his heart.
And if your right eye is causing

677
00:33:36,680 –> 00:33:38,680
you to sin, tear it out and
throw it away.

678
00:33:39,040 –> 00:33:41,520
For it is better for you to lose
one of your members than for

679
00:33:41,520 –> 00:33:43,040
your whole body to be thrown
into hell.

680
00:33:43,760 –> 00:33:46,440
And if your right hand causes
you to sin, cut it off and throw

681
00:33:46,440 –> 00:33:48,560
it away.
For it is better that one that

682
00:33:48,560 –> 00:33:51,120
you lose one of your members and
your whole body is thrown into

683
00:33:51,120 –> 00:33:54,320
hell.
And the last section don’t.

684
00:33:54,320 –> 00:33:56,000
You don’t need to flip there
because it’s just one verse.

685
00:33:56,000 –> 00:34:00,680
But it’s Ephesians 4, verse 26.
Be angry and do not sin.

686
00:34:00,680 –> 00:34:03,560
You don’t let the sun go down on
your anger.

687
00:34:03,560 –> 00:34:06,560
So we’re going to take these
three sections and go, what can

688
00:34:06,560 –> 00:34:10,159
we take about take away from
them when it comes to guilt and

689
00:34:10,159 –> 00:34:13,800
sin, verse, temptation, all
these ideas, what we should, how

690
00:34:13,800 –> 00:34:15,920
should we be thinking about it
and kind of a moral framework.

691
00:34:16,159 –> 00:34:18,600
And we’ll apply those ideas to
anxiety.

692
00:34:20,400 –> 00:34:22,800
So first thing is that anger
based off what we read in

693
00:34:22,800 –> 00:34:26,800
Ephesians, in and of itself,
it’s not a sin, not a sin to be

694
00:34:26,800 –> 00:34:30,239
angry, but it is a temptation.
It’s not something that

695
00:34:30,320 –> 00:34:33,120
initially demands repentance.
However, it is something that

696
00:34:33,120 –> 00:34:36,920
should lead us to want to
change, want to get out of that

697
00:34:36,920 –> 00:34:40,000
spot of anger.
It’s not something that we

698
00:34:40,000 –> 00:34:42,760
should feel guilty in and of
itself, but given us a

699
00:34:42,760 –> 00:34:44,719
temptation, we need to work out
of it.

700
00:34:45,120 –> 00:34:49,480
Staying in anger is not good.
Jesus very clearly says in the

701
00:34:49,480 –> 00:34:53,320
first section that being angry
and stewing an anger, not good.

702
00:34:53,400 –> 00:34:56,199
Even little acts of anger.
You didn’t kill the guy, but you

703
00:34:56,320 –> 00:34:58,040
said you fool, you talk behind
their back.

704
00:34:58,360 –> 00:35:01,920
Those are still sins.
So acting on it, even in my ways

705
00:35:02,240 –> 00:35:06,600
is a sin.
However, just having anger in

706
00:35:06,600 –> 00:35:09,520
and of itself, not a sin.
It’s a temptation, but it’s

707
00:35:09,520 –> 00:35:12,800
something that leads to sin.
It’s bad, but it’s not something

708
00:35:12,800 –> 00:35:14,800
that you should feel guilty for
or like you’ve transgressed

709
00:35:14,800 –> 00:35:17,040
about.
Similar with lust.

710
00:35:17,240 –> 00:35:19,000
We cannot do it.
We cannot sit in it.

711
00:35:19,480 –> 00:35:21,680
We cannot just look at someone
and say, hey, I didn’t do

712
00:35:21,680 –> 00:35:25,120
anything, I just looked.
We need to work our way out of

713
00:35:25,120 –> 00:35:27,280
the temptation.
We need to not just go.

714
00:35:27,280 –> 00:35:29,160
I’m tempted.
I’m not sinning, so I’m fine.

715
00:35:29,160 –> 00:35:32,080
It’s not tempted that’s close to
sinning.

716
00:35:32,360 –> 00:35:35,240
I need to get out of this.
You haven’t transgressed, but

717
00:35:35,240 –> 00:35:36,320
you are on a state of
temptation.

718
00:35:37,400 –> 00:35:40,360
We really get this idea when
Jesus says that if your eye

719
00:35:40,360 –> 00:35:43,200
offends thee to pluck it out or
or pull it out, Name your

720
00:35:43,200 –> 00:35:45,440
version.
Essentially.

721
00:35:45,440 –> 00:35:47,720
He’s not saying you’re sinning.
That’s bad.

722
00:35:47,720 –> 00:35:50,280
Repent.
What he’s saying is you have a

723
00:35:50,320 –> 00:35:54,400
temptation that leads to sin.
We need to take that out.

724
00:35:54,560 –> 00:35:56,120
And he’s not saying stop
sinning.

725
00:35:56,120 –> 00:35:58,080
He’s actually saying work on the
temptation.

726
00:35:58,880 –> 00:36:00,640
This is a clear, really
important point.

727
00:36:00,640 –> 00:36:03,640
He doesn’t say don’t fit
adultery.

728
00:36:03,640 –> 00:36:07,480
He doesn’t say don’t murder.
He says work on the temptation

729
00:36:07,480 –> 00:36:10,880
before you get there.
OK, so does that mean for us?

730
00:36:10,880 –> 00:36:13,600
Right, That means when we’re
angry, we actually need to stop

731
00:36:13,600 –> 00:36:14,680
before we get to the murder
part.

732
00:36:14,680 –> 00:36:17,920
We need to stop and go, OK, I’m
in a state of temptation.

733
00:36:18,120 –> 00:36:21,120
It’s my responsibility to work
on this temptation at the

734
00:36:21,120 –> 00:36:24,040
temptation level before it gets
to the transgression level.

735
00:36:24,960 –> 00:36:27,120
I have to deal with it now,
while I’m just in a temptation

736
00:36:27,120 –> 00:36:30,640
state before I can get even have
the chance to get to the

737
00:36:30,640 –> 00:36:32,880
transgression state.
I shouldn’t feel guilty about

738
00:36:32,880 –> 00:36:34,360
being in temptation.
That happens.

739
00:36:34,360 –> 00:36:37,280
It’s part of human nature, but I
need to deal with it while it’s

740
00:36:37,280 –> 00:36:40,040
happening.
Since we figure out whatever is

741
00:36:40,040 –> 00:36:43,280
causing the temptation of anger
or lust and deal with it.

742
00:36:43,280 –> 00:36:45,080
Work on it on a temptation
level.

743
00:36:45,480 –> 00:36:47,840
Don’t wait for it to get to the
transgression level.

744
00:36:48,400 –> 00:36:49,800
Deal with it in a temptation
level.

745
00:36:50,480 –> 00:36:52,840
Deal with it with anger and
lust, not murder.

746
00:36:52,840 –> 00:36:56,600
In adultery, yes, obviously.
Don’t do those other things.

747
00:36:56,600 –> 00:36:58,200
Don’t do murder.
Don’t do adultery.

748
00:36:58,400 –> 00:37:00,840
But press point.
Curious to say, deal with it

749
00:37:00,840 –> 00:37:02,880
before it gets there.
Work on it earlier.

750
00:37:03,040 –> 00:37:04,320
Work on it when it’s just a
temptation.

751
00:37:06,160 –> 00:37:08,480
So let’s apply some of these
thoughts over to anxiety.

752
00:37:09,400 –> 00:37:12,800
So tell us that having anxiety
in and of itself shouldn’t make

753
00:37:12,800 –> 00:37:15,360
you feel guilty.
You shouldn’t feel guilty

754
00:37:15,360 –> 00:37:17,960
because you have anxiety.
That’s the accused of feeling

755
00:37:17,960 –> 00:37:19,920
guilty because you have human
nature.

756
00:37:20,560 –> 00:37:22,800
You didn’t choose that.
That’s given to you.

757
00:37:22,800 –> 00:37:26,280
I was handed to you on at birth.
You had human nature.

758
00:37:26,600 –> 00:37:27,800
You didn’t choose it.
You didn’t want it.

759
00:37:27,800 –> 00:37:30,200
You still don’t want it.
That’s a part of what we’re

760
00:37:30,200 –> 00:37:32,640
trying to do, is to change it.
But you have it.

761
00:37:32,720 –> 00:37:34,720
You have human nature.
It’s going to make you feel

762
00:37:34,720 –> 00:37:36,440
anxious sometimes.
It’s going to make you want to

763
00:37:36,440 –> 00:37:38,440
change your priority.
Sometimes it’s going to want to

764
00:37:38,440 –> 00:37:41,240
make you mis evaluate things
sometimes, and you shouldn’t

765
00:37:41,240 –> 00:37:43,600
feel guilty because of that.
It’s temptation, and we have

766
00:37:43,600 –> 00:37:47,000
human nature.
However, it’s not something

767
00:37:47,000 –> 00:37:48,960
we’re supposed to be OK with.
Sitting in that statement

768
00:37:49,560 –> 00:37:51,480
outside of just the like, it’s
uncomfortable.

769
00:37:51,480 –> 00:37:53,080
Like anxiety is not fun to be
in.

770
00:37:53,560 –> 00:37:55,440
We also shouldn’t want to.
From a moral perspective,

771
00:37:55,440 –> 00:37:58,760
there’s a reason to get out of
anxiety from a moral point of

772
00:37:58,760 –> 00:38:00,840
view.
Because when we’re in anxiety,

773
00:38:00,840 –> 00:38:05,440
we are tempted and somewhat
doing mis evaluating what is

774
00:38:05,440 –> 00:38:06,760
important and how important it
is.

775
00:38:06,760 –> 00:38:09,160
We are changing what is on the
top of our value list.

776
00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:11,840
When I was anxious in my
relationships, what was most

777
00:38:11,840 –> 00:38:14,040
important to me wasn’t what
should have been most important

778
00:38:14,040 –> 00:38:16,040
to me.
And so I’m tempted to then act

779
00:38:16,040 –> 00:38:17,600
on that, then do something about
that.

780
00:38:18,120 –> 00:38:21,280
For me, I was tempted to stay in
relationships that were actively

781
00:38:21,280 –> 00:38:24,200
leading me away from God.
That’s not a good thing, but I

782
00:38:24,200 –> 00:38:27,080
was definitely tempted to do it
because I had anxiety making me

783
00:38:27,080 –> 00:38:29,800
forget about everything else.
So you’re in this state of

784
00:38:29,800 –> 00:38:32,520
anxiety.
It’s a temptation, and we need

785
00:38:32,520 –> 00:38:35,360
to deal with that on a
temptation level before it gets

786
00:38:35,360 –> 00:38:38,920
to transgression.
This also means similar to how

787
00:38:39,280 –> 00:38:43,600
saying mean words when you’re or
when you’re angry, or looking

788
00:38:43,600 –> 00:38:45,360
upon a woman when you’re
lustful.

789
00:38:45,880 –> 00:38:49,760
These are minor transgressions,
and similarly, acting on our

790
00:38:49,760 –> 00:38:53,200
anxieties can lead to
transgression, and that’s kind

791
00:38:53,200 –> 00:38:55,000
of hard to a hard pill to
swallow sometimes.

792
00:38:55,800 –> 00:38:58,560
For example, if I have social
anxiety and someone in my

793
00:38:58,560 –> 00:39:01,720
meeting needs help and I say no
because I’m socially anxious

794
00:39:02,280 –> 00:39:05,800
because I’m valuing my safety,
for example, of feeling, you

795
00:39:05,800 –> 00:39:08,360
know, I’m nervous about the
social interaction, about being

796
00:39:08,360 –> 00:39:11,320
embarrassed, that’s more
important to me than helping my

797
00:39:11,320 –> 00:39:13,520
brother or sister.
And so I’m not going to help

798
00:39:13,520 –> 00:39:15,240
them because I’m I’m, I’m
nervous about that.

799
00:39:16,160 –> 00:39:17,320
I would argue that’s a
transgression.

800
00:39:18,000 –> 00:39:21,000
That is something that we should
feel a minor amount of guilt

801
00:39:21,000 –> 00:39:22,520
about.
That’s an aspect of guilt about

802
00:39:23,000 –> 00:39:26,600
because you’ve acted upon your
MIS evaluation in the same way

803
00:39:26,600 –> 00:39:29,120
that with anger, when I’ve mis
evaluated how important

804
00:39:29,120 –> 00:39:31,160
something is and I get angry
about it and I punch the guy

805
00:39:31,200 –> 00:39:34,760
because he stepped on my toe,
that is, that is me mis

806
00:39:34,760 –> 00:39:38,920
evaluating the situation well
when I just chose to stay home

807
00:39:38,920 –> 00:39:41,880
because I was anxious about
this, being embarrassed in this,

808
00:39:41,920 –> 00:39:44,000
in this conversation, that was
more important to me than

809
00:39:44,000 –> 00:39:46,680
helping my brother or sister.
I’ve mis evaluated the

810
00:39:46,680 –> 00:39:49,040
situation.
I’ve mis evaluated my priorities

811
00:39:49,080 –> 00:39:51,040
of God’s priorities.
I’d argue that’s a

812
00:39:51,040 –> 00:39:53,800
transgression.
However, this is really

813
00:39:53,800 –> 00:39:56,920
important.
Feeling guilty about a

814
00:39:56,920 –> 00:40:00,920
transgression shouldn’t.
There’s actually a usefulness to

815
00:40:00,920 –> 00:40:03,240
that.
There’s a useful thing to being

816
00:40:03,240 –> 00:40:05,360
guilty about a transgression.
I’m supposed to remind you that,

817
00:40:05,360 –> 00:40:08,760
hey, change this, this isn’t
what you want.

818
00:40:09,200 –> 00:40:12,000
It’s not just to make you feel
like wallow in self pity, which

819
00:40:12,000 –> 00:40:13,720
is what we often can do with
guilt.

820
00:40:13,720 –> 00:40:16,720
It’s just supposed to say, hey,
you don’t actually want this.

821
00:40:17,280 –> 00:40:20,320
This is kind of your conscience.
The the bit of the spirit saying

822
00:40:20,480 –> 00:40:22,080
you don’t want to go down this
path.

823
00:40:22,480 –> 00:40:25,320
You didn’t want to act that way.
It’s a guilt that’s actually

824
00:40:25,320 –> 00:40:27,560
useful.
And the point of that, in

825
00:40:27,560 –> 00:40:30,480
recognizing that guilt, that’s
the role of guilt, is to say

826
00:40:30,480 –> 00:40:33,640
that when you’ve said, OK, well,
I want to work on this on a

827
00:40:33,640 –> 00:40:36,120
temptation level, I’m going to
start putting into practice

828
00:40:36,120 –> 00:40:39,000
principles to make it so that I
can deal with my anxiety in a

829
00:40:39,000 –> 00:40:41,400
way that is stops me from
transgressing, stops me from

830
00:40:41,400 –> 00:40:43,480
making those choices.
I’m going to do it in a way that

831
00:40:43,480 –> 00:40:45,360
is righteous.
I’m going to try my best and I I

832
00:40:45,360 –> 00:40:48,600
will still struggle with anxiety
or anger or lust or any of these

833
00:40:48,600 –> 00:40:50,440
other things, but I’m going to
make it so that I don’t

834
00:40:50,440 –> 00:40:52,640
transgress.
I’m going to do my best to stop

835
00:40:52,640 –> 00:40:56,840
that, that you should stop
feeling guilty because that’s

836
00:40:56,840 –> 00:40:58,800
the point of guilt.
The point of guilt was to get

837
00:40:58,800 –> 00:41:01,200
you there.
Once you’re there, you shouldn’t

838
00:41:01,280 –> 00:41:02,600
feel guilty about having
anxiety.

839
00:41:02,600 –> 00:41:04,360
That’s part of human nature.
That’s a that’s a battle that

840
00:41:04,360 –> 00:41:06,600
you’re going to have until the
Kingdom comes.

841
00:41:06,600 –> 00:41:09,680
That’s a battle that you’re
going to deal with forever, not

842
00:41:09,680 –> 00:41:12,720
forever.
Sorry for this life, sorry, but

843
00:41:12,880 –> 00:41:14,000
that’s about it.
You’re going to deal with for

844
00:41:14,000 –> 00:41:17,320
this life because that’s part of
our our lot in life is that you

845
00:41:17,320 –> 00:41:19,880
have human nature and we all
struggle with different things.

846
00:41:20,480 –> 00:41:22,880
Some else are going to struggle
with anxiety, some more, some

847
00:41:22,880 –> 00:41:25,080
less, some less are going to
struggle with anger, some more

848
00:41:25,080 –> 00:41:27,600
or less.
And the whole mixing variety of

849
00:41:27,600 –> 00:41:30,320
temptations we all struggle with
with different levels.

850
00:41:30,680 –> 00:41:33,320
Some of us, I will argue, can
actually get to a point where

851
00:41:33,320 –> 00:41:34,560
you don’t deal with anxiety
anymore.

852
00:41:35,320 –> 00:41:37,600
Some of us won’t.
Some of us will get to a point

853
00:41:37,600 –> 00:41:40,800
where it’s a little bit easier,
but it’s not necessarily gone.

854
00:41:41,960 –> 00:41:45,240
That’s how temptation works.
But what we do have a

855
00:41:45,240 –> 00:41:47,600
responsibility to do, when we
view it in the light of anxiety

856
00:41:47,600 –> 00:41:50,320
and we view it in the light of
lust, we have this.

857
00:41:50,360 –> 00:41:53,880
We have a responsibility to work
on it in the state of

858
00:41:53,880 –> 00:41:58,280
temptation, in the anxiety.
It’s not just as long as I don’t

859
00:41:58,680 –> 00:42:01,320
act on it, I’m good.
That’s the same as saying as

860
00:42:01,320 –> 00:42:03,880
long as I don’t commit murder,
I’m good, or as long as I don’t

861
00:42:03,880 –> 00:42:06,680
commit adultery, I’m good.
Or in the less extreme cases, as

862
00:42:06,680 –> 00:42:09,280
long as I don’t say the bad
words I’m good, or as long as I

863
00:42:09,280 –> 00:42:11,000
don’t look upon a woman, I’m
good.

864
00:42:11,840 –> 00:42:14,520
But that’s not what Jesus says.
He says, no, no, no.

865
00:42:15,000 –> 00:42:16,200
Deal with it when it’s a
temptation.

866
00:42:17,240 –> 00:42:19,560
So we have a responsibility to
deal with it when it’s a

867
00:42:19,560 –> 00:42:21,520
temptation.
And that’s what next class is

868
00:42:21,520 –> 00:42:23,760
going to be about when we get
there is, well, how do I deal

869
00:42:23,760 –> 00:42:24,840
with it?
You told me to deal with it.

870
00:42:24,840 –> 00:42:27,240
I got a responsibility to what
do I do about it?

871
00:42:27,600 –> 00:42:30,080
How do I actually deal with it?
And that’s what we end up doing

872
00:42:30,080 –> 00:42:32,640
in our next class.
So just to kind of summarize

873
00:42:32,640 –> 00:42:35,520
what we’ve talked about so far,
I want to first start with the

874
00:42:35,600 –> 00:42:37,240
kind of guilt framework.
I want to work our way

875
00:42:37,240 –> 00:42:39,320
backwards.
So the guilt framework we talked

876
00:42:39,320 –> 00:42:43,080
about was essentially that
anxiety is a temptation, the way

877
00:42:43,080 –> 00:42:45,040
you viewed loss, the way you
viewed anger, or any other

878
00:42:45,040 –> 00:42:46,840
temptation.
You should view anxiety in a

879
00:42:46,840 –> 00:42:49,920
very similar way because it’s
your human nature essentially

880
00:42:49,920 –> 00:42:52,000
lying to you at how important
different things are.

881
00:42:52,320 –> 00:42:55,680
It’s telling you to MIS evaluate
how you view things, and then

882
00:42:55,680 –> 00:42:57,640
it’s telling you to act on those
MIS evaluations.

883
00:42:57,640 –> 00:42:59,520
It’s saying that thing that’s
really important to you.

884
00:42:59,640 –> 00:43:02,120
Yeah, make sure that stays
important and do like things in

885
00:43:02,120 –> 00:43:04,520
your life based off that level
of importance.

886
00:43:04,840 –> 00:43:06,400
For me, that was again, in
relationships.

887
00:43:06,760 –> 00:43:09,040
Make sure this relationship
that’s from a biblical point of

888
00:43:09,040 –> 00:43:10,560
view, from a spiritual point of
view, bad.

889
00:43:10,560 –> 00:43:12,800
But make sure it sticks together
because it’s the most important

890
00:43:12,800 –> 00:43:16,120
thing to you in this moment.
Anxiety tells you to miss

891
00:43:16,120 –> 00:43:19,000
evaluate things and that is why
it’s a temptation.

892
00:43:19,000 –> 00:43:22,680
And we should view guilt in the
same context where you shouldn’t

893
00:43:22,680 –> 00:43:24,800
feel guilty because you’re
tempted by something but you

894
00:43:24,800 –> 00:43:26,600
should work on it while it’s a
temptation.

895
00:43:26,960 –> 00:43:28,240
That’s the point that you work
on it.

896
00:43:28,240 –> 00:43:31,280
You don’t work on it When it’s a
sin, that’s when you should feel

897
00:43:31,280 –> 00:43:32,800
guilty.
You work on it when it’s a

898
00:43:32,800 –> 00:43:36,040
temptation.
However, sins are going to

899
00:43:36,040 –> 00:43:39,800
happen, and when you feel guilty
because you’ve acted on anxiety

900
00:43:39,800 –> 00:43:43,520
or you’ve acted on anger or
luster anything else, guilt

901
00:43:43,520 –> 00:43:47,120
should be there until you decide
to work on the temptation and

902
00:43:47,120 –> 00:43:49,880
then repent and say I’m going to
change and then you should let

903
00:43:49,880 –> 00:43:52,560
that guilt go because the
purpose of that guilt has been

904
00:43:52,560 –> 00:43:55,360
fulfilled.
Guilt is a useful tool, but once

905
00:43:55,360 –> 00:43:57,360
it’s fulfilled its usefulness,
get rid of it.

906
00:43:57,480 –> 00:43:59,960
It’s not useful anymore.
You shouldn’t feel guilty for

907
00:43:59,960 –> 00:44:01,600
having anxiety.
We’re going to be in this battle

908
00:44:01,800 –> 00:44:04,240
for a long time.
That’s just how anxiety works.

909
00:44:04,240 –> 00:44:07,760
That’s how temptation works.
But when we transgress, guilt is

910
00:44:07,760 –> 00:44:09,320
there.
It’s useful to tell us to get

911
00:44:09,320 –> 00:44:11,920
back in the battle, get back to
work on this transgression or on

912
00:44:11,920 –> 00:44:15,000
this temptation, and then we let
it go because the guilt isn’t

913
00:44:15,000 –> 00:44:17,560
useful anymore.
And that’s I think the spot that

914
00:44:17,560 –> 00:44:20,640
we, a lot of people, me
included, in cases, mess up.

915
00:44:21,000 –> 00:44:23,120
We hold on to that guilt.
We associate the guilt of the

916
00:44:23,120 –> 00:44:25,360
temptation and say, well, I’m
tempted by this thing.

917
00:44:25,360 –> 00:44:29,160
I have anxiety, I have anger, I
have lust and therefore I’m bad.

918
00:44:29,160 –> 00:44:31,400
I should feel guilty.
Not quite.

919
00:44:32,240 –> 00:44:33,800
We should feel guilty when we
transgress.

920
00:44:34,200 –> 00:44:37,320
But the the guilt is useful to
say get back in the battle on

921
00:44:37,320 –> 00:44:41,840
the on the temptation level and
then moving back to the how does

922
00:44:41,840 –> 00:44:43,640
anxiety and faith seem to
relate?

923
00:44:44,120 –> 00:44:45,840
It relates by the connection of
values.

924
00:44:46,040 –> 00:44:47,880
Essentially.
When we are anxious about

925
00:44:47,880 –> 00:44:50,920
something, we are internally
saying whatever it is we’re

926
00:44:50,920 –> 00:44:53,120
anxious about, whatever aspect
that we’re anxious about.

927
00:44:53,360 –> 00:44:54,560
That is the most important
thing.

928
00:44:54,640 –> 00:44:57,480
It goes to the top of our list
more important than things that

929
00:44:57,480 –> 00:44:58,960
God would say should be the most
important.

930
00:44:59,760 –> 00:45:01,120
And that’s why it relates to
faith.

931
00:45:01,600 –> 00:45:04,680
It relates to faith not because
you know, anxious bad or your

932
00:45:04,680 –> 00:45:06,280
beliefs changed or anything like
that.

933
00:45:06,280 –> 00:45:09,240
It goes, it relates to faith
because it changes how you

934
00:45:09,240 –> 00:45:11,440
evaluate things in life.
It changes.

935
00:45:11,440 –> 00:45:13,640
What do you find important and
how important are they?

936
00:45:14,080 –> 00:45:16,920
Changes your priority list.
In the moment, we know that.

937
00:45:16,920 –> 00:45:19,040
It doesn’t change your big
picture priority list if you

938
00:45:19,040 –> 00:45:20,680
were to go home and write it out
and think about it.

939
00:45:21,040 –> 00:45:24,320
But in that moment of anxiety,
you’re not thinking about that

940
00:45:24,320 –> 00:45:26,160
list.
You’re thinking about whatever

941
00:45:26,160 –> 00:45:28,840
is the thing that’s the top of
your values, whatever is the

942
00:45:28,840 –> 00:45:31,880
thing that’s threatening to you
at that top of the top of the

943
00:45:31,880 –> 00:45:35,360
value system.
Next class, what we’re going to

944
00:45:35,360 –> 00:45:38,720
do is we’re going to work on.
So what do I do about this?

945
00:45:39,000 –> 00:45:39,920
Cool.
I understand it.

946
00:45:39,920 –> 00:45:42,840
I understand when I should feel
guilty, when I shouldn’t and why

947
00:45:42,840 –> 00:45:45,920
anxiety is a problem and how it
relates to faith and all those

948
00:45:45,920 –> 00:45:48,960
kinds of great things.
What do I do about it?

949
00:45:49,520 –> 00:45:52,080
And that’s really, I’m really
looking forward to that class

950
00:45:52,320 –> 00:45:55,400
because that’s the class where
I’m really hoping to empower you

951
00:45:55,400 –> 00:45:57,320
all.
I want to give you guys agency

952
00:45:57,320 –> 00:45:59,840
and show this is what I can
actually do in this battle.

953
00:46:00,240 –> 00:46:03,520
Give you clear steps and say
that’s what I can actually do

954
00:46:04,000 –> 00:46:05,880
because it’s really hard to say
or really easy for me to say.

955
00:46:06,040 –> 00:46:08,360
Hey guys, work on your anxiety,
work on your anger to work on

956
00:46:08,360 –> 00:46:10,640
this stuff.
What does that actually mean?

957
00:46:11,160 –> 00:46:14,160
I want to give you guys real
practical things from scripture

958
00:46:14,360 –> 00:46:17,360
and then also from my own
personal experiences that say

959
00:46:17,520 –> 00:46:20,200
this is how you can actually
take steps in that direction and

960
00:46:20,200 –> 00:46:22,640
then and have power to really
transform your mind.

961
00:46:22,640 –> 00:46:24,640
So that’s be the goal of the
next class.

962
00:46:24,640 –> 00:46:40,440
I really look forward to that.
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00:46:40,440 –> 00:46:42,040
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964
00:46:42,840 –> 00:46:45,280
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