236: John Evans – A Soft Answer Turns Away Wrath

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Welcome to Good Burger selfie
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Welcome to the good.
Chris Italian talks podcast,

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this is brother Brian.
This week’s talk is a Class by

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Brother John Evans.
That was given in 2016 at the

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teacher, Gully, Ecclesia The
class is called a soft answer

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turns away wrath.
And this is part.

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One of a two class series all
about anger.

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This was not a recommendation.
This was actually a series that

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I was looking at myself because
I feel like I struggle with

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having an anger problem.
And I found it to be not only

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helpful to to myself, but good
enough that I felt the community

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worldwide would benefit from
hearing these classes brother.

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John looks at how this
tumultuous emotion has been used

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in a biblical sense, both by God
and man and what are the key

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lessons that we can take away
and I found that the more and

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more instances he kept going
into as like oh man I forgot

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like yeah that’s a great story
that deals with anger and that’s

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a great story that deals with
anger.

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One of the points that I
appreciate, was he, he makes

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clear anger is not a sin. and
anger in and of itself is not

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necessarily a problem, but the
challenge for us, is preventing

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it from quickly becoming Wrath
or something worse, he reminds

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us that Paul cautioned in
Ephesians 4, be angry and sin.

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Not.
So that’s that’s our struggle to

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allow ourselves to be angry
about things but have the mind

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of the spirit and not just react
with the mind of the Flesh.

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And one of my favorite take away
lines that I think brother, John

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for, is he He says anger is only
one letter away from danger.

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And such a good reminder that
like, you know, if we ignore the

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warning signs, if we ignore the
cues that our bodies giving us,

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we very quickly can move from
being angry into being in a

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dangerous situation, with our
words, with our actions.

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So I found that between the two
classes, there’s just lots of

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great practical gems regarding
dealing with anger within our

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families anger.
With our young children

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frustration within our colleges
and a really think would benefit

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everyone to hear how this can be
approached from a biblical

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sense. so, as always, We hope
this strengthens your faith and

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brightens your day.
Brother.

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John Evans, a soft answer turns
away wrath, thank you for the

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German good evening.
My brother and sisters in young

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people.
It’s wonderful to have an

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opportunities and it during the
middle of a busy week to stop

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and to consider the word of God.
It’s what we do every Wednesday

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night and we have a opportunity
to open the word and to let the

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word speak to us.
And the challenge of course, of

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any Bible study is to see how do
we make that apply to ourselves.

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It can be very interesting, it
can be very academically

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challenging but of course if
it’s not going to affect us in

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our daily life then it’s just
those two things academic or

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interesting, the word of God of
course has the power to change

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the inner man as we know and our
aim is to look at tonight.

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An interesting subject that of a
soft answer turns away wrath.

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That’s our overall title.
What really going to look

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Tonight is the challenge that we
Face a lot of in this world

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today around about us and the
challenge for ourselves of being

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angry about things.
We live in an evil world.

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I don’t need to tell you that,
we look at the news, we see

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what’s happening in the world
around about us.

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We see the challenges in the
occlusal environment that we

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dwell in.
We seem to be facing an

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avalanche of decline in the
world outside, people

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challenging everything that’s
been ever conceived to be holy

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or righteous as God except for
that his word, the Bible.

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Society calls.
Evil good and good evil.

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And we know that means we’re in
the time of the end.

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And of course, we’ve seen Russia
just recently move itself into

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the, into the Middle East
Theater, which is very exciting

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for us.
As we witness the current

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events.
We see men are artists who are

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covered us.
An evil man who had Godless and

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all they were interested in is
themselves.

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And of course, we recognize that
as a disciple and follower of

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Christ, that’s not the way, we
should conduct ourselves in our

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daily life and I believe,
brother and sisters were not

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participating in the Covetous
evil things that are happening

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in the world around about us.
We tend to stand aside from that

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and say, no, that’s not
something we should be involved

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in.
But we live in a very angry

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world, you know, a common term,
you’ll hear is that people have

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short fuses.
What’s that mean?

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It means doesn’t take much in
the explode, people in the

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workplace people in the school
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People just seem to have a lot
of anger, you know, the term

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today which wasn’t around
probably 40 years ago called

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road rage 40 years ago.
They probably weren’t enough

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cars going up and down the road
out there for anyone to get

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cross with each other.
And now there’s a term now and

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is road rage.
What is it?

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It’s really just anger and
people unable to contain their

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anger who then beat their horns.
Jump out of cars will do worse

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things and that to each other.
It’s a world we live in where

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anger is seen.
Before us all the time, we see

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it in our political leaders,
they slog it out in Parliament.

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We see it in the things that we
witness around about us and I

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think all of us would say is
Brethren sisters of our law.

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That that’s not the way we ought
to behave.

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Yet of all the issues that
challenges perhaps his Brethren

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and sisters.
And sometimes we graduate

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things.
Don’t we say?

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Well, this is a really bad
thing.

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We don’t want to be involved in
this murders or robberies or

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theft.
How do we graduate our

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relationship with each other and
our ability to get very angry

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with each other, perhaps we can
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Well, that’s not so bad.
Well what we’d like to do

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tonight is to look at the
perspective, our heavenly father

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and say, is that bad or not?
Because I think that’s one of

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the great challenges for all of
us in these last days how we

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interact with each other and how
we let that affect us, So what

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we want to look at tonight is is
probably four points.

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We want to look at what anger
is.

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We want to say, where does it
come from?

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What is this Spirit of being
angry?

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Then man.
Exhibits.

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How does God view, anger?
And then we look at some

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scriptural examples of bad anger
and surprisingly good anger.

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Am I find that surprising but
bear with us because you’re

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going to see some examples where
anger is used very positively in

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the scripture.
So if we went to look up about

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anger, what will we do?
We grab a dictionary

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off-the-shelf, we look up the
word anger, and if we picked up

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an order, a dictionary would
read this.

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It’s a feeling of great
annoyance or antagonism as a

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result of some real, or supposed
grievance, Rage or Roth.

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That’s your standard English
dictionary.

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Let’s pull off a Bible.
Victory off a shelf though.

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And say what’s the word anger
got to do with, with the

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scriptures.
And we read in the Old

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Testament, the translation of
several Hebrew words, especially

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that of off.
Literally means the nostril or

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the countenance.
When we get to the New

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Testament, the word only occurs
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That’s the word anger.
But it’s place is taken by the

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word Roth, which we see on
multiple occasions in the New

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Testament.
So we’ve got the opportunity to

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open God’s word and see him
talking about anger.

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And to see how it affects our
Brethren and sisters, those who

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have gone before us, and the way
that they were affected by this

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emotion of anger.
Well, the first question was

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where does human anger come
from?

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What we’re going to do tonight
because we look at a lot of

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scripture and pick out bits and
pieces we go what I’d like to do

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is to say be nice if we could
get this thing to work.

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From the bottom.
How about James you can we make

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this work?
Because we’ve got to get through

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a fair bit of.
Here we go.

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Here we go.
Don’t ever panic and whatever

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you do.
Don’t get angry.

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Okay, I’m not getting angry.
Okay, James, thank you.

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I’ll just get James to have a
look at that for us.

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Let’s turn up in our Bible,
Matthew 15:19.

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What we’re going to do is use
PowerPoint to get through a lot

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of quotes tonight but Matthew
15:19 and we know this quiet

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very well.
Thank you very much, James.

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Lucky, no one got angry.
Good, Matthew 15 verse 19.

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What do we read for out of the
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Proceed evil.
Thoughts murders adulteries,

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fornications thefts, false
witness, Nice to meet you.

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Where’s that all come from?
Well, of course we know the Lord

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tells us it comes from with a
man within a man comes out of

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his heart.
What else do we know from

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scripture?
Well, we know that the heart of

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man is deceitful, Jeremiah 17
verse 9.

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You may want to take notes.
If you want to copy afterwards

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please come and see me.
The heart is deceitful above all

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things, and desperately wicked,
who can know it.

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Now, we know these quotes, we
put them up at a lecture.

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When we talked new interested
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yep, man is not in only good,
but rather, he actually deviates

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or Falls over towards sin.
Those quotes prove that for us

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so anger comes from within us,
it’s an emotion.

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How do we let it affect us and
what do we know about, God, and

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anger?
Well, we know God’s holy we know

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that he can’t look upon sin.
But we also know, when we come

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back to Exodus 34:6, we find a
lot out about his character,

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don’t we?
And we look at this with a young

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people.
We talked about the character of

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Yahweh and we find it described
for us because he says to Moses.

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This is my character and he said
he’s gracious.

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Merciful long-suffering abundant
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However he keeps Mercy for
thousands forgiving iniquity,

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transgression and sin but will
by no means clear.

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The guilty visiting the iniquity
of the father’s upon the

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children.
Children and upon the children’s

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children unto the third and
fourth generation, what have we

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got?
Was we say to people it’s a

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balance, isn’t it?
He’s got Justice and mercy and

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it’s perfectly balanced.
Their heavenly father, is it

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perfectly balanced and US
brothers and sisters.

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Will, of course not.
We know that God’s consistent.

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He’s consistent, he’s reliable,
he’s predictable.

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You know, how he’s going to
react to any situation because

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he said he was affording the
word and said, this is how I

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operate.
This is what I think this is

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what I do, he is consistent, but
what else do we know about him?

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Let’s turn over to the New
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First John 4:8 and we read
together, he that loveth not

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knoweth not God for God is love.
Remember what we said we’ve got

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Justice and we’ve got Mercy, the
principles that he stands for,

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he won’t change but his ability
to show Mercy to those who wish

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to repent.
They’re the two characteristics

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of our loving Heavenly Father.
It’s a central part of his being

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those two welded together.
Do you know what?

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We don’t read.
We never read anywhere in

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Scripture.
That God is anger.

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We read that God is love.
We don’t read got his anger.

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Why is that?
That’s an emotion that he

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exhibits but at the core of his
buried, very being God is love

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and he’s prepared to exhibit
that to those who want to

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worship and come before him.
So if you got your, your

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Strong’s out, you looked up the
word anger or its derivatives

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and you said, okay, how many
times does this word occur in

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the Bible?
Well, in the Old Testament, as

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we saw it occurs, many times, it
actually occurs 455 times.

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So, 450 5 times the word anger
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Do you know what I found?
Amazing, out of those four

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hundred and fifty five times,
three hundred and seventy five

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of those times, relate to go
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He’s angry, he’s Roth, he’s
annoyed.

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Look at that.
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He says God, judges the
righteous and God is angry with

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the wicked every day.
He’s angry with the wicked.

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He’s angry with the nation’s,
he’s angry with Israel when they

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turn their back on him.
CC anger is a Divine emotion

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that dwells within got.
He tells us these angry about

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things was.
He angry about his angry about

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challenge to his Holiness and
his righteousness, and he’s not

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going to tolerate it and because
he is holy and righteous, but

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because he is merciful, he welds
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together, doesn’t he?
His Holiness stands against in?

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He won’t tolerate that But his
Mercy seeks those who wish to

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come before him and to serve
him, he seeks to be able to

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provide a way for that to
happen.

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So all of God’s laws as we know
are based upon his Holiness and

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his mercy and I’m not telling
you anything, you don’t already

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know.
How does that affect us when we

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come to look at the situation of
God’s ability to deal with

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anger?
Well, in Deuteronomy chapter 13

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and verse 15.
And 16, we see Moses recounting,

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what you always said?
He said, look, I’ve set before

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you this day.
Life and good and death and

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evil.
You’ve got to challenge life and

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death, good and evil.
And it’s that constant

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challenge, isn’t it?
We’re going to serve God, are we

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going to serve ourselves?
And the messages go forward,

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serve God.
Because if you do, he’ll be

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merciful, he will be gracious.
He is consistent.

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He is predictable.
He is reliable.

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He doesn’t change.
And so therefore if you follow

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this pattern which is serving
him he will recognize that and

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be merciful unto you if you
choose not to well, his anger is

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shown to those who choose not to
follow his principles and he’s

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very righteous in his anger.
So God’s justice and his

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righteousness stimulates his
anger, he looks at a situation

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says that’s wrong.
That challenge is my Holiness

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and I won’t tolerate that.
What about we come to the New

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Testament?
Well, of course we got the Lord.

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Jesus Christ.
What did he say?

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If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen
the father and how did he

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witness that?
Well, he did that his life,

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didn’t he?
And so, a couple of quotes we’ll

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look at in a minute.
Mark 3 John 2 examples of Our

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Lord showing anger or Roth.
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So we know Christ, never sinned.
And yet he shows anger or Roth.

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And we can struggle with that
brother and sisters and young

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people.
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How do we put that together?
Because so often, when we get

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angry, very quickly switches
from anger to Us actually

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speaking in advisory with our
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Li how did the Lord Do It?
Well, I guess the challenge is

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to think, first of all, what
what makes us get angry?

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What drives us to become angry?
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Sorry, not Nathan came to David,
didn’t he?

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After the tragic events that
have Bathsheba and Nathan came

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with a parable second Samuel,
chapter 12 and, you know, the

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story very well and he came and
he spoke about the fact that a

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rich man had a huge flocks and
there was one poor man, had a

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little ewe lamb.
He cared for that lamb and he

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loved it and that lamb loved
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And Along came a rich man, and
he sent someone to get, hold of

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that lamb.
Bring it back and let’s barbecue

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that for my visitor.
What’s David say?

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A look at that verse for verse
the bottom on there, David and

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David’s anger was greatly
kindled against them and he said

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to Nathan.
As Yahweh liveth the man that

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has done this thing shall surely
die.

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What happened in David?
Do you know the sheer Injustice,

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the she wickedness of what had
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That was being portrayed to him,
fired up within David a feeling

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of justice, and, right?
And he said that man’s Gotta

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Die.
I’m not going to tolerate that

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my kingdom.
I will stand for justice and

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right and his anger was killed
with Kindle within him so that

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sheer Injustice aroused within
David, the action to do

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something.
Now as we know, first of all, he

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was overreacting to the
situation.

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Secondly, tragedy is about to
find out.

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Actually it’s a parable and it’s
all about you David.

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However, David was a man after
God’s Own Heart and what he saw

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that sheer Injustice.
He said no I’ll act about that.

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The evil of the situation, made
him act.

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And a creator with him anger and
it made something happen, you

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know, we’re going to find
brother and sisters throughout

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scripture that God works with
people who show real anger will

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come back to our reading that
Matt read for us tonight, Jonah

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for unusual reading perhaps
until look at the subject in it.

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God works with people who show
some amazing attributes as far

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as anger.
Okay, question for all of us.

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Try to remember the last time
that you experience anger and

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ask yourself the question, why
did I get angry?

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If you can sit there honestly
and say, I can’t remember

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myself, personally don’t look
around and see is I remember

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that brother got angry and my
husband got angry, or my wife.

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Got angry and my kids getting on
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You, it was the last time you
got angry about an incident, if

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you can’t remember check your
pulse, no, not really.

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If you can’t remember drive it
harder or you’re in a marvelous

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category, but it’s likely your
answer was somewhere in your

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answer.
You will mention some injustice,

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something that was Inequitable
something that really annoyed

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you because that just isn’t fair
that shouldn’t happen to

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somebody or something those
incidents just they challenge

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what is right and wrong.
And you might have directed your

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anger, against a person or
against an object, or even

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Brethren sisters against God.
Now, please note, we are not

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discussing, whether your
perception of wrong is valid or

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invalid.
It’s not what I’m asking you.

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We’ll talk about that later on
what I’m just saying.

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Think about the last time you
got angry and was it because

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someone made you angry, was it?
Something that happened.

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Let’s have a look in scripture
for some examples of people who

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went down that path.
First of all, a person a person

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who got very, very angry with
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Genesis for Cain and Abel to
Brethren to Brethren, who

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decided that one was going to
follow the ways of Yahweh and

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the other one was going to do
what he wanted to do.

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What happens but unto Cain and
to his offering he had not

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respect and Cain was very wroth
and his countenance fell.

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What it came.
Think it happened well, he

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actually felt slighted by able,
didn’t he?

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He thought that able have gone
out of his way to make it

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example of Cain and came toward
upon that and we don’t know what

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the time frame was, whether it
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But he dwelled upon that.
And what was the outcome?

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The outcome was he actually
killed his brother?

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If you want to know where anger
left unchecked can end up your

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reading in Genesis chapter 4,
you let that run and you’ll kill

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your brother and maybe you won’t
kill your brother physically

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while whacking him.
Over the head with a big stick,

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your brother might leave the
truth because of the things you

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do or say to him because you’re
angry with him.

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So we challenge that we there’s
someone who’s angry about a

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person would have been an
object.

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Oh, come on John.
You say no one gets angry at an

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object.
What would you get angry in an

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object.
Remember Balaam.

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And he wrote his little donkey
to get that house full of gold

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and silver, and his whole Focus
was on that.

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And his silly little donkey
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So what happened?
Well, he wouldn’t go into the

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angel, you know, this story with
no heard it from Sunday school

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lessons, but what really
happened, what really happens is

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Balaam jumps off the ass and his
anger was kindled, and he gets

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his stuff and he whacks his poor
donkey the ass and he lays into

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the donkey, that’s an object and
we go the foolishness of the

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prophet.
Brethren ever had your lawn

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mower.
Not start the Saturday morning.

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And thought boy, this is really
annoys me or maybe maybe

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something like a computer.
It’s in and out of it object

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with bits of wire and a bit of
glass and I don’t know what’s in

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there.
No idea.

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But sometimes it doesn’t do what
you want.

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Does it?
Have you ever got angry at your

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computer and we laughed
everything?

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All people wouldn’t get angry at
donkey.

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How silly is that ever?
Whack your computer hoping to

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make it work or shout it?
Shout it at your computer or

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your lawnmower but your sewing
machine or whatever it is you’re

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angry at an object.
It’s pointless.

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Except the aspect about Denis
because God was in control.

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Perhaps, we’re starting to see
that.

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Hmm, maybe some of their
Brethren and those in the

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scriptures, do have same
challenges that we have.

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What, about angry at God?
Turn to the reading that Matt

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did for us in Jonah, chapter 4,
and unusual reading, probably

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for a class it’s often
challenged the sister we get to

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the end of Jonah and this is
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Here’s an example of a brother
who was obviously God-fearing

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and godly.
He went out to do the work of

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God.
He was a prophet he went and did

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what he was told to do what
happens?

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He he saves Nineveh.
And what’s the result?

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He is extremely angry about
that.

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Who’s he angry with?
He’s angry with God.

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You know, Jonah for should be a
celebration chapter at least 120

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thousand.
People got saved.

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What do we know?
God is not willing that any

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should perish?
He saved at least a hundred and

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twenty thousand people and
what’s Jonah?

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Say you’re wrong.
And I’m I’m mad at you.

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I’m so angry about the way
you’ve dealt with this

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situation.
Look at it, if you cut it, in

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the words, very angry verse 1,
but it displease Jonah

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exceedingly.
He was very angry.

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God says, do what are you angry
about?

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He says, well denied, this was
my saying, I told you in my

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country.
Therefore, I fled Tasha’s for.

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I knew that they were gracious
and merciful and slow to anger.

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Oh, we’ve already seen that.
Heavenly God is absolutely

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predictable and reliable.
He doesn’t change and Jonas, and

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I know you don’t change.
Engine.

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Because of that, these people
have been saved.

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Because his, you’re angry.
Yeah.

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And then he ends up with a good,
doesn’t he?

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And he sits under a GERD.
And the good guys and what

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happens to China?
He’s angry again.

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God says, to him, do you be do
well to be angry and Jonah said,

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yeah, I’m doing well, to be
angry.

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I’m very angry about what’s
happened in my life.

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But let’s stop for a minute.
Think about why did Nineveh

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repented are?
Because it was in the plan of

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purpose of Yahweh?
Yes, that’s true.

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What happened?
What drove them to repent?

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A man going through the city
with a message forty days and

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Nineveh destroyed.
Oh, that was a catalyst to it.

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Let’s have a look at what
actually it says, in chapter 3

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and verse verse 9, this is the
king talking in the leaders

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saying and who can tell, if God
will turn and repent from his

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away from his Fierce anger that
we perish.

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Not, here’s a gentile nation of
non-believers ago.

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Hang on a minute.
In this is Israel’s God.

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He has a fierce anger.
If we choose not to obey him, we

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know what that Fierce anger will
do.

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It will destroy us 40 days and
we’re gone.

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And they listen to that.
And what happened?

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Verse 10 and God saw their
works.

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And they that they turn from
their evil ways and God repent

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of the evil that he had said, he
would do unto them.

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And he did it.
Not God, repented did Jonah have

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a right to be angry?
Well, he certainly thought he

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did.
He’s prepared to challenge the

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Almighty.
Is it will go head-to-head with

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his messenger and say.
Yep, absolutely.

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I’ve got a right to be angry.
He was very, very clear because

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he expresses to God, how angry
is actually actually is, and

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what was his problem?
He saw that.

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God had conducted, a great
Injustice upon him.

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You did listen to me.
I told you this would happen

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upon his Nation, they’re going
to come down and Destroy Israel,

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all of which were true in time.
And we’d sit here in this Hall

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tonight and go with Jonah was
wrong.

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That was clearly.
That was wrong.

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He didn’t understand God,
Brethren and sisters and when we

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sit down and think about
ourselves, if we ever got that

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angry, do we sometimes use
language like Jonah?

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Oh, perhaps, we’re not brave
enough to actually speak it out

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loud.
But if you ever thought that and

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perhaps, towards God situation
has happened in your life, and

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you think that’s just not fair.
I’ve done this and this and this

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God, where are you?
What’s this happened?

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Why is this going on?
Perhaps we haven’t said it.

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Absolutely.
As Brave as Jonah, but I’m sure

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probably at some stage.
All of us have thought thoughts

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like that can get?
It was yahweh’s anger that led

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to them to repent because we saw
he gave him the warning.

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If you don’t repent or destroy
you.

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They’re fierce anger was with
the thing that they were

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terrified of and they dealt with
it.

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00:25:55,600 –> 00:25:58,700
God’s anger brought a better
response that he designed.

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He wanted to see that happen and
it happened.

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What if are anger brother and
sisters could be used to the

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same effect?
What if we could actually make a

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positive use of her anger?
Because, as we said, when we

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started anger is an emotion The
challenge for every one of us is

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what Paul wrote to the Ephesians
where he said, be angry and sin.

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Not and the challenge for us and
we’d like to spend some time

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tonight.
Looking at is okay, we can be

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00:26:25,800 –> 00:26:28,700
angry about it.
Injustice, how do we not sin?

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00:26:29,200 –> 00:26:30,800
How do we actually work our way
through that?

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That challenge I said, we’d look
at the example of the Lord.

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Jesus Christ.
Here’s some examples.

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When he went into the, into the
temple, you know, this and he

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drove out those were selling
oxen and sheep.

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Why?
Because you’ve turned my

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father’s House into a house of
merchandise and he drove them

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out.
Take these things.

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Hence he says, look at the end
of that, his disciples

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00:26:51,600 –> 00:26:54,500
remembered that it was written
the Zeal of thine house.

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Hath eaten me up The disciples
saw the anger of their master

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00:27:00,500 –> 00:27:03,500
and attributed that for a deep
concern for his father’s house,

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they knew him then.
Spent time with him, they didn’t

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just go, oh, he’s had a bad day.
He’s got out of bed on the wrong

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00:27:09,600 –> 00:27:11,100
side and I don’t mean that
flippantly.

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00:27:11,700 –> 00:27:14,600
Sometimes we do with each other,
we got having a bad day.

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00:27:14,800 –> 00:27:17,500
No, they said this is the Zeal
of these father’s house.

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00:27:17,500 –> 00:27:20,400
He’s making a stand on behalf of
his father because he knows what

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00:27:20,400 –> 00:27:22,400
this house stands for and he
knows it.

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00:27:22,400 –> 00:27:24,000
Turning into a Marketplace is
wrong.

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00:27:27,200 –> 00:27:30,700
There was another occasion, he’s
in a synagogue, you know it?

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00:27:30,700 –> 00:27:33,500
Well as a man with a withered
hand and the Pharisees set him

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00:27:33,500 –> 00:27:37,100
up right at the very front and
they challenged Christ as to

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00:27:37,100 –> 00:27:39,300
whether you’re going to heal
this man or not.

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What’s he say?
Mark chapter 3 verse 4 and 5 it

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says, Under them.
Is it lawful to do good on the

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00:27:46,308 –> 00:27:48,600
Sabbath days or do evil to save
life?

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00:27:48,600 –> 00:27:51,300
What he killed but they held
their peace.

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00:27:51,600 –> 00:27:54,500
And when he looked around upon
them with anger being grieved

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for the hardness of their
hearts.

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00:27:55,600 –> 00:27:57,700
He said to the man stretch forth
his hand and we know he healed

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00:27:57,700 –> 00:28:01,200
him.
But look, what happened?

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00:28:01,400 –> 00:28:05,600
He was angry, why was he angry?
Because those evil men were

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00:28:05,600 –> 00:28:09,500
prepared to take a poor
individual like this man subject

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00:28:09,500 –> 00:28:13,200
him to ridicule and and mocking,
put him right in front of the

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00:28:13,208 –> 00:28:14,000
Lord.
Jesus Christ.

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00:28:14,000 –> 00:28:15,000
Why?
Because they want to try and

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00:28:15,000 –> 00:28:20,100
catch a man and he said you’re
evil that’s wicked what you’re

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00:28:20,108 –> 00:28:24,300
doing and he was angry.
Because the Injustice that whole

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00:28:24,300 –> 00:28:27,500
event struck our Lord was a
desperate need for that man to

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00:28:27,500 –> 00:28:32,000
be healed and all those in that
room would say, well, see if you

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00:28:32,000 –> 00:28:33,700
will or not because it’s a
Sabbath day.

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00:28:34,800 –> 00:28:39,100
Brought about an angry response
in our Lord and I brought about

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00:28:39,100 –> 00:28:41,000
a scripture response and it
brought about a healing of a

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man.
You know, anger, you could

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00:28:43,700 –> 00:28:46,000
describe anger.
As a big red flashing light on

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00:28:46,000 –> 00:28:48,400
the dashboard of Life.
What is it?

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00:28:48,500 –> 00:28:51,300
It’s a light that flashes.
It’s saying something is in just

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00:28:51,300 –> 00:28:55,500
something is wrong.
It goes off from time to time in

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00:28:55,500 –> 00:28:58,400
our life and we look around
things, occasionally in a place

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00:28:58,400 –> 00:29:01,400
of employment, and we go, that’s
not fair.

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00:29:02,200 –> 00:29:05,600
That’s in, just that challenges,
you always Holiness.

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00:29:06,500 –> 00:29:10,600
It’s just the big light.
It’s flashing to us challenge

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00:29:10,600 –> 00:29:12,200
for us, brothers, and sisters,
is what do we do?

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00:29:12,200 –> 00:29:15,900
Because anger can be a very
powerful motivator to move us

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00:29:15,900 –> 00:29:19,100
towards doing something positive
and right to do something, which

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00:29:19,100 –> 00:29:23,300
will uphold yahweh’s Holiness to
correct an injustice like David

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and the rich man.
For example.

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00:29:25,600 –> 00:29:28,000
David just didn’t gawa.
Send the poor man.

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00:29:28,000 –> 00:29:31,000
Another lamb.
No, then just as of what had

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00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:33,200
just happened struck him and he
said I want to do with that.

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00:29:35,500 –> 00:29:37,000
But I tell you what, brother and
sisters we need to be

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00:29:37,000 –> 00:29:40,300
particularly careful because of
this angers only one letter

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00:29:40,300 –> 00:29:42,000
short of danger.
You have seen those signs.

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00:29:42,000 –> 00:29:44,200
They put them over deep holes,
they put them on building sites.

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00:29:44,200 –> 00:29:46,700
Danger, do not enter danger,
danger danger.

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00:29:47,100 –> 00:29:48,500
You know what?
When we start to let that big

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00:29:48,500 –> 00:29:51,500
red, light of anger, flashing
our on our dashboard as it were

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00:29:51,500 –> 00:29:54,900
of life.
We’ve got to be very careful

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00:29:54,900 –> 00:29:57,500
because we’re actually one step
away from danger.

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00:29:58,200 –> 00:30:01,400
We actually can very easily sin,
and our reaction can be

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00:30:01,400 –> 00:30:08,400
anything, but Godly We can
forget about what God would do.

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00:30:08,400 –> 00:30:10,900
We consider get forget about
what our Lord Jesus Christ has

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00:30:10,900 –> 00:30:14,100
done, and we can end up making
things a whole lot worse,

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00:30:14,600 –> 00:30:16,700
because we have allowed anger to
drive us forward.

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So, the challenge tonight is,
how do we process anger in a

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00:30:19,308 –> 00:30:21,700
spiritual way and actually make
it positive.

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00:30:22,300 –> 00:30:24,700
We’ve looked at Cain and Abel.
That was a disaster.

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00:30:25,300 –> 00:30:28,400
We looked at Jonah and God not,
not a good place to be.

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We’ve looked at table, dr.
David David, and Nathan.

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00:30:32,800 –> 00:30:35,800
And we saw how that interacted
the rich man and what happened

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00:30:35,800 –> 00:30:39,200
in David’s life.
You know, all those three people

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00:30:40,200 –> 00:30:43,500
came.
Jonah and David all felt angry

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00:30:43,500 –> 00:30:46,000
towards the same object.
You know what it was.

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00:30:47,300 –> 00:30:51,000
Someone else.
They’re not angry with

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00:30:51,000 –> 00:30:55,500
themselves, they’re not beating
themselves up, they’re angry

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00:30:55,500 –> 00:31:00,600
with someone else.
The challenge for this is this.

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As we look at the subject, it’s
really easy to break it back to

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being purely theoretical,
analytical, pull it apart.

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00:31:09,400 –> 00:31:11,200
The challenge, for all of us is
how do we relate in our

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00:31:11,200 –> 00:31:14,000
relationships, our interpersonal
relationships, our husbands, our

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00:31:14,000 –> 00:31:17,000
wives, our children, our
parents, our Ecclesia, our

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Brethren and sisters.
And of course, it doesn’t, just

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00:31:19,700 –> 00:31:21,000
stay.
There goes out into our work

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00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:25,100
place, or a place of study.
How do we react in the ongoing

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00:31:25,100 –> 00:31:29,300
relationships?
We have What do we need to do

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00:31:29,300 –> 00:31:31,700
first, when we get angry that
big red light goes off in our

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00:31:31,700 –> 00:31:33,800
head and we get angry, what’s
the first thing we need to do?

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00:31:33,900 –> 00:31:35,800
You know what you need to do?
You need to consciously

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00:31:35,800 –> 00:31:37,500
acknowledge to yourself that
you’re angry.

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00:31:38,300 –> 00:31:40,400
You go off.
Seriously, John like one.

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00:31:40,400 –> 00:31:41,700
Look at me.
I look in the mirror.

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00:31:41,700 –> 00:31:43,800
Everyone can see how angry my
ears have gone red.

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00:31:43,900 –> 00:31:46,000
I’m angry.
Oh no.

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00:31:46,100 –> 00:31:47,600
You need to stop.
And actually acknowledged for

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00:31:47,600 –> 00:31:52,600
yourself and say I’m angry
because you need to ask yourself

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00:31:52,600 –> 00:31:56,800
the question.
What’s happening to me, you

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00:31:56,800 –> 00:31:59,400
know, anger can hit us that fast
like that.

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00:31:59,700 –> 00:32:02,100
Someone tells you something like
that, you’re angry.

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00:32:03,900 –> 00:32:07,100
You’ve built up a head of steam
as it were and you’ve got a real

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00:32:07,100 –> 00:32:11,300
anger and of course because we
think fast and act fast we tend

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00:32:11,300 –> 00:32:15,800
to speak Farsi you open your
mouth and outcomes exactly what

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00:32:15,800 –> 00:32:19,500
you’re thinking about that NS.
We’re always busy framing the

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00:32:19,500 –> 00:32:20,500
response.
We’re going to give to the

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00:32:20,500 –> 00:32:22,300
brother or the work made or
whoever it is.

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00:32:22,800 –> 00:32:25,200
We haven’t stopped.
We haven’t listened.

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00:32:25,400 –> 00:32:27,400
We haven’t thought through the
fact we’re angry.

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00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:30,700
You know what we are far more
likely to make a very positive

605
00:32:30,700 –> 00:32:33,600
response to anger if we
recognize what’s happening.

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00:32:33,700 –> 00:32:37,800
inside our head Wow, I’ve just
got angry.

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00:32:39,300 –> 00:32:41,400
Okay now I’ve got some choices
to make.

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00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:46,200
Paul said be angry and sin not
that’s the challenge and that’s

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00:32:46,200 –> 00:32:48,300
our goal.
We want to try and work to that.

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00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:51,600
So as we said before anger isn’t
seen it can’t be the Lord Jesus

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00:32:51,600 –> 00:32:55,600
Christ showed anger yet.
He never sinned anger is not sin

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00:32:56,900 –> 00:32:58,800
when you become angry.
You’ve got to say okay stop for

613
00:32:58,808 –> 00:33:00,000
a minute.
What’s happening to me?

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00:33:00,000 –> 00:33:05,200
I’m becoming angry challenge was
never don’t get angry challenge

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00:33:05,200 –> 00:33:07,000
Paul gave the Ephesians is don’t
see him.

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00:33:08,600 –> 00:33:11,300
Well, I’m because the wrath of
man worketh not.

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00:33:11,300 –> 00:33:13,700
The righteousness of God is
James tells us in chapter 1 and

618
00:33:13,700 –> 00:33:15,900
verse 9 could be pretty careful
over this.

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So, how do I respond to my
anger?

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00:33:18,500 –> 00:33:20,500
So that my actions will be
constructive and in his

621
00:33:20,500 –> 00:33:23,500
spiritual, vain well.
Step number one, we need to

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00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:26,700
acknowledge her angry.
If you don’t ever give you self

623
00:33:26,700 –> 00:33:28,300
the time to think.
Actually, I’m angry about this,

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00:33:28,600 –> 00:33:31,800
you’ve just launched straight
into stage two, which may be

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00:33:32,000 –> 00:33:34,800
constructive.
Usually, it’s destructive

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00:33:34,800 –> 00:33:37,600
because you’ve allowed yourself
to think, right?

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00:33:37,600 –> 00:33:40,300
I need sort this problem out.
I need to sort out right now.

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00:33:41,800 –> 00:33:44,300
So it’s about restraining our
immediate response.

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And from there, there’s two
usual patterns, which we can

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follow.
Once we’re angry and everyone

631
00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,000
tends to follow them.
And neither of them are very

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00:33:54,000 –> 00:33:56,600
useful to a disciple, a follower
of Lord Jesus Christ.

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00:33:57,500 –> 00:33:59,600
But look at the wild Ranger,
look how people respond to being

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00:33:59,600 –> 00:34:05,300
angry, they respond with either
number one verbal or physical

635
00:34:05,300 –> 00:34:08,100
venting.
You’re a complete idiot or worse

636
00:34:08,100 –> 00:34:12,100
and they know some very horrible
language or worst case they

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00:34:12,100 –> 00:34:14,500
thump somebody.
So I’ve responded, I’m angry

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00:34:14,500 –> 00:34:16,300
bang on.
Fixed it thumb.

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00:34:16,699 –> 00:34:21,000
You’ve got thumped. that’s not
the way any discipling Christ

640
00:34:21,000 –> 00:34:25,500
wishes to conduct themselves,
but acknowledge that What’s the

641
00:34:25,500 –> 00:34:30,000
second option you’ve got?
Well I withdraw, I’ll say

642
00:34:30,000 –> 00:34:32,500
nothing.
I’ll just suck it all in and

643
00:34:32,500 –> 00:34:38,199
just bear it and be silent.
That’s not very helpful either.

644
00:34:38,199 –> 00:34:40,300
We’ll see why in a minute, you
know, we need to be able to

645
00:34:40,300 –> 00:34:44,699
restrain our human nature.
We don’t need to fire off an

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00:34:44,699 –> 00:34:48,300
answer.
We need to just stop and think

647
00:34:48,300 –> 00:34:51,000
for a minute that’s not the same
as storing anger.

648
00:34:53,500 –> 00:34:55,400
It’s refusing to take the
action, which would come

649
00:34:55,400 –> 00:34:58,100
naturally to us, which is give
the person a piece of our mind

650
00:34:58,100 –> 00:35:00,900
and often, when we really angry
is not the time to give a piece

651
00:35:00,900 –> 00:35:02,800
of your mind away, you’re going
to need all the mind you’ve got,

652
00:35:02,800 –> 00:35:06,700
don’t start throwing that around
the place, just stop and think.

653
00:35:08,500 –> 00:35:12,600
What happens?
Well, you know what are we

654
00:35:12,600 –> 00:35:13,800
trying to do?
We’re trying to stop that

655
00:35:13,800 –> 00:35:17,200
natural reaction.
Hi, John never never experienced

656
00:35:17,200 –> 00:35:18,200
it.
Give us an example.

657
00:35:18,200 –> 00:35:20,400
Sure, I’ll share an example with
your 30 years ago.

658
00:35:20,400 –> 00:35:22,200
Don’t even bother trying to work
out who it is.

659
00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:25,500
It’s really quite funny.
We do the marriage seminars and

660
00:35:25,800 –> 00:35:28,000
sister came up afterwards and
said, I really enjoyed that.

661
00:35:28,000 –> 00:35:29,900
I tried very hard to work out
who all the people when you’re

662
00:35:29,900 –> 00:35:33,000
talking about serious, that’s
not the point of the example.

663
00:35:33,400 –> 00:35:36,400
I’m driving down the street and
I see a brother jumping into his

664
00:35:36,400 –> 00:35:37,600
castle.
Give them a beep.

665
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:41,000
Maybe I shouldn’t beat him and
out of the window.

666
00:35:41,000 –> 00:35:44,400
Comes this as he turns his head
a quickly became this.

667
00:35:45,600 –> 00:35:47,200
He saw who he was shaking his
fist at.

668
00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:49,100
You see the natural reaction was
to shake his fist.

669
00:35:49,500 –> 00:35:51,600
Maybe I shouldn’t have been.
No, I was just saying hi.

670
00:35:51,700 –> 00:35:53,700
Maybe he always says hi to
people by shaking his fist at

671
00:35:53,700 –> 00:35:55,400
them.
Which automatically became the

672
00:35:55,400 –> 00:35:57,100
hand.
The natural response was I

673
00:35:59,500 –> 00:36:03,300
right?
It’s about being able to manage

674
00:36:03,300 –> 00:36:06,300
our natural responses because
the natural man is worth nothing

675
00:36:06,300 –> 00:36:07,500
to us.
In our spiritual senses.

676
00:36:07,500 –> 00:36:10,900
It, it’s about being able to
think through and say, what are

677
00:36:10,900 –> 00:36:13,200
we going to do?
Let’s go back to scripture.

678
00:36:14,000 –> 00:36:18,500
Proverbs Solomon, says 29:11 to
fall out with all his mind, but

679
00:36:18,500 –> 00:36:20,500
a wise man, keep it into
afterwards.

680
00:36:21,300 –> 00:36:23,700
Now someone tells you something,
someone upsets you and a fool.

681
00:36:23,700 –> 00:36:25,800
Just goes where and how it all
comes.

682
00:36:26,900 –> 00:36:30,200
Thomas is that’s not a wise man.
Wise me thinks it through,

683
00:36:31,700 –> 00:36:33,600
doesn’t mean.
He’s gone to sleep, doesn’t mean

684
00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:35,600
he doesn’t care.
He’s just he’s thinking that

685
00:36:35,600 –> 00:36:38,900
through brother translation of
that says, a full gives vent to

686
00:36:38,900 –> 00:36:41,900
his anger but a wise man keeps
himself under control, it really

687
00:36:41,900 –> 00:36:46,200
is self control.
What about this?

688
00:36:47,600 –> 00:36:51,100
The discretion of a man defers
his anger and His glory to pass

689
00:36:51,100 –> 00:36:54,300
over a transgression or another
translation insightful people

690
00:36:54,300 –> 00:36:59,300
restrain their anger My you
insightful, am I can you see

691
00:36:59,300 –> 00:37:01,800
where this is going to leave?
If I had down this path is would

692
00:37:01,800 –> 00:37:04,900
be what may happen historically.
When I react like this, this is

693
00:37:04,900 –> 00:37:06,200
what happened.
People end up in tears.

694
00:37:06,200 –> 00:37:09,700
Things, go wrong.
I’ll be a bit smarter than that.

695
00:37:10,300 –> 00:37:16,300
The writer of Proverbs is
saying, yeah, just Settle he

696
00:37:16,300 –> 00:37:18,900
that is soon.
Angry deal with foolishly.

697
00:37:20,600 –> 00:37:23,100
Yes, you hear things in life,
that make you very ill, make you

698
00:37:23,100 –> 00:37:26,400
very unhappy, you need to be to
take that on board and think

699
00:37:26,400 –> 00:37:29,600
that through because you know
what, our Heavenly father’s

700
00:37:29,600 –> 00:37:32,600
watching and seeing things that
make him extremely angry unhappy

701
00:37:32,600 –> 00:37:40,300
and he will deal with it. so
what I’m being told to do think

702
00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:45,600
before we open our mouth, you
know, there’s a Monumental

703
00:37:45,600 –> 00:37:47,900
speech that was given by an
individual in scripture.

704
00:37:48,500 –> 00:37:51,700
Monumental I think you probably
could could think it through it

705
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:57,500
last for about one verse.
Jonathan speaks to his father

706
00:37:57,500 –> 00:38:02,600
Saul and says you are have got
David completely wrong and Saul

707
00:38:02,600 –> 00:38:05,900
who was not known for holding
back launched with this

708
00:38:06,600 –> 00:38:09,200
dissertation.
Upon Jonathan pain Jonathan’s

709
00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:11,200
mother.
His wife and saw his anger was

710
00:38:11,200 –> 00:38:13,600
kindled against Jonathan.
He said to him, thou son of a

711
00:38:13,600 –> 00:38:15,300
perverse rebellious woman, do
not.

712
00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:17,300
I know those chosen.
The son of Jesse to thine own

713
00:38:17,300 –> 00:38:19,600
confusion under the confusion, a
mother’s nakedness.

714
00:38:19,900 –> 00:38:22,600
What a magnificent speech that
deliver not.

715
00:38:23,800 –> 00:38:26,300
Why?
Because it does not a spiritual

716
00:38:26,300 –> 00:38:29,100
bone in the man’s body but he
just launched with an attack.

717
00:38:29,600 –> 00:38:32,600
Someone once wrote speak, when
you are angry and you will make

718
00:38:32,600 –> 00:38:34,900
the best speech that you’ll ever
live to regret.

719
00:38:36,300 –> 00:38:40,400
And this means gone down in
history preserved, in the word

720
00:38:40,400 –> 00:38:47,000
of God has been a god less and
be that’s one of his great

721
00:38:47,000 –> 00:38:51,400
speeches.
Because he got angry, he did

722
00:38:51,400 –> 00:38:55,700
Think Through the situation.
And he was prepared to

723
00:38:55,700 –> 00:38:58,000
challenge.
Jonathan and we know what

724
00:38:58,000 –> 00:39:02,000
happened, not only destroy his
own family, he lost he lost the

725
00:39:02,000 –> 00:39:03,800
kingdom.
He lost the respect of his son

726
00:39:04,000 –> 00:39:06,400
because when you are starting to
dish out language like that,

727
00:39:08,000 –> 00:39:09,500
you’re not in a very good space,
spiritually.

728
00:39:09,500 –> 00:39:10,800
And I think we all acknowledge
that.

729
00:39:12,500 –> 00:39:15,600
Sometimes we do say things in a
flash of anger later.

730
00:39:15,600 –> 00:39:18,300
We regret it.
Unfortunately, you can’t erase

731
00:39:18,300 –> 00:39:23,000
it.
Saul’s writings there, therefore

732
00:39:24,000 –> 00:39:26,800
for anyone to read 4,000 years
later, he can’t arrays that.

733
00:39:26,800 –> 00:39:28,500
You might think, yeah.
But I only said that to brother,

734
00:39:28,500 –> 00:39:31,800
you know what that person might
forgive you, but that hurt that

735
00:39:31,800 –> 00:39:33,600
you’ve done might last a
lifetime.

736
00:39:34,900 –> 00:39:36,500
Be careful what we say to each
other.

737
00:39:37,100 –> 00:39:38,600
Sometimes, you hear?
Someone say I didn’t mean to say

738
00:39:38,600 –> 00:39:39,100
that.
You know what?

739
00:39:39,100 –> 00:39:41,100
You’d be more honest to say.
Actually, I wished I hadn’t said

740
00:39:41,100 –> 00:39:44,300
it, you meant to say your brain,
thought it your mouth engage.

741
00:39:44,300 –> 00:39:46,800
You said it.
Really what you say is?

742
00:39:46,800 –> 00:39:50,100
I wished I hadn’t said that and
he part of processing anger.

743
00:39:50,400 –> 00:39:52,500
It’s about to be able to break
that and say, yeah, I’m not

744
00:39:52,500 –> 00:39:54,300
going down that path.
Why?

745
00:39:54,300 –> 00:39:59,000
Because we know the tongues that
little member which causes so

746
00:39:59,000 –> 00:40:05,200
much trouble for all of us.
So oh, if someone says to you,

747
00:40:05,200 –> 00:40:08,000
well, that’s fine for him.
But I can’t control my anger,

748
00:40:08,000 –> 00:40:09,300
just the way I am.
It’s my upbringing.

749
00:40:09,300 –> 00:40:11,800
It’s my just genetic.
Predisposition, this is how I

750
00:40:11,800 –> 00:40:13,300
am.
There’s nothing I can do about

751
00:40:13,300 –> 00:40:15,200
it and I just lose it.
And that’s how it is.

752
00:40:16,100 –> 00:40:18,500
Should say sorry.
Should say sorry them, because

753
00:40:18,500 –> 00:40:21,100
they’re in put themselves in
magnificent company with people

754
00:40:21,100 –> 00:40:24,400
like Saul, who didn’t have a
Godly bone in their body.

755
00:40:24,800 –> 00:40:26,600
You see, we can change the word
of God can change.

756
00:40:26,600 –> 00:40:29,700
It’s not an excuse to say that’s
how I am genetically.

757
00:40:29,700 –> 00:40:31,300
That’s how I am.
All Jonathan.

758
00:40:32,100 –> 00:40:36,300
Saul’s son, you find Jonathan
firing off Rockets like that.

759
00:40:36,800 –> 00:40:39,500
Not recorded for us, suggest you
add that, he didn’t speak like

760
00:40:39,500 –> 00:40:41,800
that.
You see, we can make changes if

761
00:40:41,800 –> 00:40:44,400
we want to, once you begin, an
explosion is very hard to pull

762
00:40:44,400 –> 00:40:46,000
it back in.
Again once that lava of the

763
00:40:46,000 –> 00:40:48,800
volcano’s going, you can’t
really just put it all back

764
00:40:48,800 –> 00:40:50,200
together.
It’s pretty hard to get back

765
00:40:50,200 –> 00:40:51,600
together.
So what do you need to do?

766
00:40:52,300 –> 00:40:54,600
You need to think about it.
You know, I don’t know about

767
00:40:54,600 –> 00:40:56,200
you.
My mother said to me once look,

768
00:40:56,200 –> 00:41:00,300
just if you’re angry count to
10, That didn’t work.

769
00:41:00,300 –> 00:41:03,900
So I had to learn to count to
100 and 1000, then I think my

770
00:41:03,900 –> 00:41:05,700
sister said, you better learn to
count to ten thousand.

771
00:41:05,900 –> 00:41:07,300
No.
But seriously, you know what?

772
00:41:07,300 –> 00:41:08,600
We’ve all got a different
trigger points.

773
00:41:08,600 –> 00:41:12,300
But we will say, hey if it takes
counting to ten as this calmly,

774
00:41:12,300 –> 00:41:15,600
think this through, or if it’s
100, do it rather have an

775
00:41:15,607 –> 00:41:18,500
explosion because a long delay,
make well that volcano that’s

776
00:41:18,500 –> 00:41:22,400
going to explode within you.
And it’s much better not to have

777
00:41:22,400 –> 00:41:25,100
an explosion because once you’ve
done it you it’s difficult to

778
00:41:25,100 –> 00:41:28,900
put back together.
We’ve seen it, the problems of

779
00:41:28,900 –> 00:41:32,200
said, don’t seem with our lips.
We need to be circumspect in the

780
00:41:32,200 –> 00:41:34,600
things that you say, why does it
matter?

781
00:41:35,700 –> 00:41:38,100
Well, he that slow to anger is
better than the mighty and he,

782
00:41:38,100 –> 00:41:39,900
that rule is spirit and he had
taken the city.

783
00:41:39,900 –> 00:41:43,100
It doesn’t say he who doesn’t
have anger, is better known on

784
00:41:43,100 –> 00:41:46,500
says he that slow to anger.
Actually, if it’s used in a

785
00:41:46,500 –> 00:41:50,700
Godly sense, can help you to
clearly see issues.

786
00:41:52,800 –> 00:41:56,800
Now.
What happens then to someone

787
00:41:56,800 –> 00:42:00,100
like David and Jonathan sorry
Saul and Jonathan is our that

788
00:42:00,100 –> 00:42:01,700
was learned behavior.
He will know, it didn’t follow

789
00:42:01,700 –> 00:42:02,900
through, Jonathan didn’t follow
that.

790
00:42:02,900 –> 00:42:08,900
Knees life someone says well
it’s a challenge though, that’s

791
00:42:08,900 –> 00:42:12,600
how I always react.
I’m the marrying brother from

792
00:42:12,600 –> 00:42:14,600
Enfield most of you know that
there was a group of marine

793
00:42:14,600 –> 00:42:17,400
Brethren and their wives who got
together a couple of years ago

794
00:42:17,400 –> 00:42:20,800
now and there was a couple of
nights put on at the Hyde Park

795
00:42:20,800 –> 00:42:24,500
hall, for just the Marine
Brethren their wives and the

796
00:42:24,500 –> 00:42:27,000
subject subject didn’t really
matter.

797
00:42:27,000 –> 00:42:29,900
As I outside speaker, who came
and spoke, his name is Martin

798
00:42:29,900 –> 00:42:31,300
guarantee.
If you ever get a chance to hear

799
00:42:31,300 –> 00:42:34,600
him, his very good, but he spoke
about the fact that

800
00:42:34,600 –> 00:42:37,000
communication and listening and
hearing, and those sort of

801
00:42:37,000 –> 00:42:40,100
things, we build a rapport with
this gentleman and wasn’t a

802
00:42:40,107 –> 00:42:42,200
crispy too often, but over a
period, Period of nights.

803
00:42:42,200 –> 00:42:45,000
We’ve got to know him.
And one night I said and his

804
00:42:45,000 –> 00:42:47,600
background was he dealt with
extremely troubled youth, who

805
00:42:47,600 –> 00:42:50,800
did very violent things and he
was trained as a, as a

806
00:42:50,800 –> 00:42:53,100
specialist in that work, for
that for 25 years, which

807
00:42:53,100 –> 00:42:57,100
probably do your head in, but he
said this, he said, you know,

808
00:42:57,100 –> 00:42:59,200
anyone got any questions as
yeah, we got a commission that

809
00:42:59,400 –> 00:43:01,800
there’s a brother, I know and he
gets very angry.

810
00:43:03,000 –> 00:43:06,200
He gets very angry with his
family and his storm out of the

811
00:43:06,207 –> 00:43:07,800
house and we’ll do this.
He said stop.

812
00:43:08,000 –> 00:43:09,400
Stop chomping at ask you two
questions.

813
00:43:09,400 –> 00:43:11,000
I want straight honest.
Answers it.

814
00:43:11,000 –> 00:43:11,900
Go ahead.
Martin.

815
00:43:12,300 –> 00:43:14,400
He said when he’s pushing his
trolley through a war shopping

816
00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:16,000
center.
He’s going down the aisle and

817
00:43:16,100 –> 00:43:19,600
someone cuts his trolley off.
Does he just ran his trolley

818
00:43:19,600 –> 00:43:21,800
into the baked bean display and
bring the whole thing to the

819
00:43:21,800 –> 00:43:24,100
ground.
And then, run over to the jam,

820
00:43:24,100 –> 00:43:26,400
I’ll in the coffee, I’ll extend
both arms and run down the

821
00:43:26,400 –> 00:43:28,900
whole, passage pulling, all the
glass jars onto the ground.

822
00:43:29,700 –> 00:43:31,600
No, no man.
I don’t think he’s ever done

823
00:43:31,600 –> 00:43:32,500
that.
Right.

824
00:43:33,000 –> 00:43:35,700
Second question in your
community or your church.

825
00:43:35,700 –> 00:43:38,500
Yep, if he doesn’t something
goes wrong.

826
00:43:38,500 –> 00:43:41,100
Does he rip up his Bible?
Throw the hymn book at someone

827
00:43:41,100 –> 00:43:43,200
allowing the ground.
Swearing, I said, no mr.

828
00:43:43,200 –> 00:43:47,000
My knowledge has never done that
either he said right then he’s

829
00:43:47,000 –> 00:43:49,600
got a behavioral problem, not a
mental problem.

830
00:43:49,900 –> 00:43:51,500
He said, please understand the
difference.

831
00:43:51,600 –> 00:43:53,400
A mental problem is and we meet
them.

832
00:43:53,400 –> 00:43:57,300
Poor people who have a mental
issue in their brain, they can’t

833
00:43:57,300 –> 00:43:59,300
digest what’s right and wrong in
the situation.

834
00:44:00,100 –> 00:44:03,200
It’s a very small percentage.
He’s got a behavior problem

835
00:44:03,200 –> 00:44:05,100
because in the world were
shopping center, he doesn’t

836
00:44:05,100 –> 00:44:07,400
destroy things.
When it doesn’t go his way in

837
00:44:07,400 –> 00:44:08,900
your community.
He doesn’t do it.

838
00:44:09,300 –> 00:44:10,600
But at home, he doesn’t get his
own way.

839
00:44:10,600 –> 00:44:12,600
He just Chuck’s a full-on
wobbly.

840
00:44:12,900 –> 00:44:15,700
That’s behavioural.
You need to call it for what it

841
00:44:15,700 –> 00:44:17,500
is.
You can change that.

842
00:44:19,000 –> 00:44:21,300
And it struck me off it.
Yeah, that’s why we spend time

843
00:44:21,300 –> 00:44:23,700
around the word of God because
we can change it.

844
00:44:24,900 –> 00:44:26,800
And yes, sadly, there might be.
Someone is Afflicted with a

845
00:44:26,808 –> 00:44:30,300
mental illness.
Most of us aren’t reflected with

846
00:44:30,300 –> 00:44:32,800
human nature and sometimes we
like to hide behind that.

847
00:44:33,400 –> 00:44:35,100
So we need to look at why we
really angry.

848
00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:39,000
What does that mean?
Sorry.

849
00:44:39,000 –> 00:44:41,700
In our personal relationships.
I don’t know about you.

850
00:44:41,700 –> 00:44:43,900
I can’t remember the last
shouting matching in food hall

851
00:44:43,900 –> 00:44:46,000
or the last punch up in the car
park and neither should there

852
00:44:46,000 –> 00:44:47,400
ever be one.
You might have them here

853
00:44:47,400 –> 00:44:51,000
regularly but I doubt it you see
because good nature and good

854
00:44:51,000 –> 00:44:53,300
manners dictate their way.
We speak to each other when we

855
00:44:53,300 –> 00:44:57,300
were in a community like this is
proper and correct challenge for

856
00:44:57,300 –> 00:44:58,700
us.
All is how do we interact at

857
00:44:58,700 –> 00:45:01,000
home?
When our front doors closed?

858
00:45:01,100 –> 00:45:02,500
How do we interact with our
children?

859
00:45:02,900 –> 00:45:05,600
How do we interact with our wife
or a husband or our parents?

860
00:45:05,600 –> 00:45:08,600
If you’re a young person That’s
where you really going to say.

861
00:45:08,600 –> 00:45:11,100
Yes, I am living these
principles or no, I’m not.

862
00:45:11,900 –> 00:45:14,600
Because good manners dictate,
you’re not really going to have

863
00:45:14,600 –> 00:45:17,800
a fit here at the hall.
And that’s the challenge for us

864
00:45:17,800 –> 00:45:21,600
to Think Through, isn’t it?
Okay, so we’ve said, we’ve got

865
00:45:21,600 –> 00:45:24,200
to try and temporary automatic
response.

866
00:45:24,200 –> 00:45:26,700
We also need to think through an
issue as to why we angry is the

867
00:45:26,700 –> 00:45:28,200
real issue.
What’s in front of us?

868
00:45:28,200 –> 00:45:31,900
Just a while were angry or not.
Example, I’m mowing the lawn on

869
00:45:31,900 –> 00:45:34,600
Saturday morning if this were
true and to just to defend my

870
00:45:34,600 –> 00:45:36,600
two sons, let’s just use this
for an example.

871
00:45:36,600 –> 00:45:38,900
I’m mowing the lawn on, on a
Saturday morning, at 11:00 in

872
00:45:38,900 –> 00:45:40,200
the morning and I am really
angry.

873
00:45:40,200 –> 00:45:43,400
I’m mowing the lawn.
Actually Laura Ingraham angle or

874
00:45:43,400 –> 00:45:46,000
I’m angry because my two boys
are sound asleep in bed by 11:00

875
00:45:46,000 –> 00:45:48,200
on a Saturday morning and my dad
would never let me do that.

876
00:45:48,200 –> 00:45:50,300
And I’ve failed as a father
because I can’t get him out of

877
00:45:50,300 –> 00:45:51,600
it.
You see what’s happened.

878
00:45:51,800 –> 00:45:53,700
I’m actually upset about my
boys.

879
00:45:53,700 –> 00:45:55,000
It’s nothing to do with mowing
the lawn.

880
00:45:55,000 –> 00:45:56,800
But if you ask me, why you
upset, I’m upset because I’m

881
00:45:56,800 –> 00:45:58,100
mowing the lawn.
No you’re not.

882
00:45:58,800 –> 00:46:01,200
Sometimes we need to step back
and say what are we really upset

883
00:46:01,200 –> 00:46:03,100
about?
What’s really got us angry.

884
00:46:03,100 –> 00:46:05,100
What’s driving?
Our feelings is on this

885
00:46:05,100 –> 00:46:08,900
particular case.
And also we need to be a scalar,

886
00:46:08,900 –> 00:46:12,800
you know, we’re on a scale of 1
to 10 where 1 is.

887
00:46:14,000 –> 00:46:16,300
Yeah.
Who cares and 10 is World War 3?

888
00:46:16,700 –> 00:46:19,100
If it’s up to 10 and you need to
sit back and think it through if

889
00:46:19,100 –> 00:46:22,800
it’s a number one, perhaps the
whole world doesn’t care what

890
00:46:22,800 –> 00:46:26,200
you think about everything, okay
so we’ve now stop to think about

891
00:46:26,200 –> 00:46:27,500
things.
What do we do then?

892
00:46:28,300 –> 00:46:32,200
Well we can launch but song as a
retard assets foolish a wise man

893
00:46:32,200 –> 00:46:34,100
keeps his counselor thinks
through the issues.

894
00:46:34,100 –> 00:46:38,000
He says yeah I’m not just going
to deliver my whole thinking on

895
00:46:38,000 –> 00:46:40,100
this here.
I think through what’s

896
00:46:40,100 –> 00:46:43,200
happening.
You know, there’s two options

897
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:45,600
for a disciple of Christ.
We’ve only got two really.

898
00:46:45,700 –> 00:46:47,700
As I see it, I’m happy to have a
discussion afterwards.

899
00:46:48,200 –> 00:46:51,100
The world’s got more actually go
back to the Old Testament, you

900
00:46:51,100 –> 00:46:53,800
know, quite Ephesians 4, be
angry and sin.

901
00:46:53,800 –> 00:46:56,300
Not know if you know where that
comes from its picked up out of

902
00:46:56,300 –> 00:47:01,200
some for and it’s actually
working from the incident of

903
00:47:01,200 –> 00:47:05,000
David fleeing from Absalom
second Samuel. 16 he’s going

904
00:47:05,000 –> 00:47:06,000
down there cigar butt of the
Hill.

905
00:47:06,000 –> 00:47:09,100
If you remember she may I comes
out and curses him in the most

906
00:47:09,100 –> 00:47:12,800
filthy way.
And it’s abishai us.

907
00:47:12,800 –> 00:47:14,800
Is just let me go over and I’ll
fix this problem.

908
00:47:14,800 –> 00:47:18,600
One hit, he’s gone, that’s it.
Remember he says no, God must

909
00:47:18,600 –> 00:47:21,500
have sent him.
I’m not you sons are alive, too

910
00:47:21,500 –> 00:47:23,700
hard for me.
I’m not going to deal with that.

911
00:47:24,700 –> 00:47:27,300
David was probably very angry
about it, but he didn’t sin.

912
00:47:27,500 –> 00:47:29,500
He didn’t go and take to have
someone go and take that man’s

913
00:47:29,500 –> 00:47:31,900
head off.
So we’ve got two options, we

914
00:47:31,908 –> 00:47:33,400
don’t have the option to take
someone’s head off because

915
00:47:33,400 –> 00:47:34,600
that’s wrong.
Our Lord’s told us.

916
00:47:34,607 –> 00:47:36,500
That’s not what we to do.
What can we do?

917
00:47:36,600 –> 00:47:38,500
Here’s what we can do.
We can lovingly confront the

918
00:47:38,500 –> 00:47:42,300
person and say I am really
unhappy about this or we can

919
00:47:42,300 –> 00:47:44,700
consciously decide to overlook a
matter.

920
00:47:47,300 –> 00:47:49,600
Let’s look at the second one
first and see how it affects us.

921
00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:52,500
Do you know if we decide to
consciously Overlook a matter?

922
00:47:52,800 –> 00:47:54,900
What’s it mean?
Probably applies to Something in

923
00:47:54,900 –> 00:47:57,000
the workplace.
Perhaps, it’s not to do with our

924
00:47:57,000 –> 00:47:58,100
family.
Our brother and sisters.

925
00:47:58,100 –> 00:48:00,400
This is example, someone has
wronged us.

926
00:48:00,700 –> 00:48:02,800
Someone said you’ve got your
line manager.

927
00:48:02,800 –> 00:48:04,900
Said, look fill out.
This Excel spreadsheet, populate

928
00:48:04,900 –> 00:48:06,300
ourselves.
Make sure it works is going

929
00:48:06,300 –> 00:48:09,800
upstairs to the big boss.
You do that, he then tampers

930
00:48:09,800 –> 00:48:11,500
with it.
All the cells fall out, it goes

931
00:48:11,500 –> 00:48:13,900
upstairs, the big boss, the big
boss comes down and gives you a

932
00:48:13,900 –> 00:48:16,100
real ticking off because you
just don’t even know what you’re

933
00:48:16,100 –> 00:48:17,900
doing.
You’ve done the right thing.

934
00:48:20,400 –> 00:48:22,400
You have been accused of
something that you didn’t do.

935
00:48:22,400 –> 00:48:25,000
What do you do?
Well, you can choose to say, is

936
00:48:25,000 –> 00:48:27,600
there any Redemptive value and
me confronting the big boss,

937
00:48:27,600 –> 00:48:30,200
probably not is the person that
work with.

938
00:48:32,300 –> 00:48:35,200
Well, I can accept the wrong and
I can leave the matter to God.

939
00:48:35,700 –> 00:48:37,000
Now that sounds really easy to
see.

940
00:48:37,000 –> 00:48:39,200
Say sitting here, isn’t it?
But actually you can apply that

941
00:48:39,200 –> 00:48:40,900
now life.
How do we know we can apply it

942
00:48:40,900 –> 00:48:44,900
because look what Peter says,
you know that very well taking

943
00:48:44,900 –> 00:48:47,200
the Lord Jesus Christ and he
says this is what our Lord

944
00:48:47,200 –> 00:48:50,100
suffered this is what he went
through and He was a totally

945
00:48:50,100 –> 00:48:53,700
just innocent righteous man who
never was angry to the point of

946
00:48:54,200 –> 00:48:57,200
cine and out of that.
They took him and hung him on a

947
00:48:57,207 –> 00:49:02,400
tree. so he says, you know, if
you suffer for something which

948
00:49:02,400 –> 00:49:08,400
isn’t your fault, so, be it pass
that over, understand that that

949
00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:12,500
is you’re following your Lord
and Master Look at that last

950
00:49:12,500 –> 00:49:16,300
line there but committed himself
to him that judgeth righteously.

951
00:49:16,700 –> 00:49:18,700
What of the Lord do?
He said, I know that there’s a

952
00:49:18,700 –> 00:49:21,600
righteous judge, he’s
consistent, he’s predictable,

953
00:49:21,600 –> 00:49:24,800
he’s reliable.
And he wept over Jerusalem

954
00:49:24,800 –> 00:49:26,500
because he knew was going to
happen to that City when they

955
00:49:26,508 –> 00:49:30,000
killed him, God will deal with
it, and he left that to him.

956
00:49:31,600 –> 00:49:34,500
I want to be really clear.
This is not the same as burying

957
00:49:34,500 –> 00:49:39,400
anger, what’s burying anger?
I’m so mad with that person that

958
00:49:39,400 –> 00:49:42,500
I am not even going to tell them
if they went up.

959
00:49:42,500 –> 00:49:45,200
And said well, yeah, everything.
All right, is something wrong

960
00:49:45,300 –> 00:49:46,000
move.
You don’t know.

961
00:49:46,000 –> 00:49:49,400
I’m not telling you.
No, that’s bearing anger.

962
00:49:50,100 –> 00:49:53,700
What happens if you Barry anger?
Scriptural example, have a look

963
00:49:53,700 –> 00:49:56,200
at this.
Absolute, let’s make it really

964
00:49:56,200 –> 00:49:57,600
clear.
More Godless, man.

965
00:49:57,600 –> 00:50:01,800
You’re not going to find in
David’s life but Absalom When

966
00:50:02,100 –> 00:50:05,800
his half brother forced, his
sister was utterly Furious.

967
00:50:06,400 –> 00:50:08,800
And what did he do?
He went and dealt with, he said

968
00:50:08,800 –> 00:50:10,600
that’s wrong.
That’s abominate.

969
00:50:11,000 –> 00:50:14,600
No, he didn’t.
He spake neither good nor bad to

970
00:50:14,600 –> 00:50:18,000
Amman, and it came to pass after
two full years.

971
00:50:18,000 –> 00:50:20,500
He dwelled on that for two years
and said nothing.

972
00:50:21,400 –> 00:50:24,500
He just was almost like a little
plant and he just kept ending

973
00:50:24,500 –> 00:50:26,000
it.
Every time he saw.

974
00:50:26,000 –> 00:50:28,700
He was angry.
I was going to let go of it.

975
00:50:28,700 –> 00:50:31,200
He wasn’t going to deal with it.
He internalize that and he said,

976
00:50:31,200 –> 00:50:33,200
right.
I’ll deal with this one day.

977
00:50:33,300 –> 00:50:35,500
I’m angry and I’m going to do
what’s right?

978
00:50:36,000 –> 00:50:37,900
There’s no question what his
brother did was evil.

979
00:50:37,900 –> 00:50:40,700
I’m not suggesting that but he
planned this revenge for two

980
00:50:40,700 –> 00:50:42,700
years and then what’d he do had
him killed.

981
00:50:45,600 –> 00:50:49,100
You have been upset about
something two years, five years.

982
00:50:49,800 –> 00:50:52,900
There’s something in your life.
You go at brother three years

983
00:50:52,900 –> 00:50:56,400
ago, three months ago, three
weeks ago, really upset me.

984
00:50:57,400 –> 00:50:59,900
I am not going to let him have
the satisfaction of knowing I’m

985
00:50:59,900 –> 00:51:03,600
upset, but I am upset.
I’ll keep watering and tending.

986
00:51:03,600 –> 00:51:07,600
My little upset Bush because
that keeps me just going brother

987
00:51:07,600 –> 00:51:11,000
says, that’s wrong.
We’re not to actually dwell on

988
00:51:11,000 –> 00:51:13,000
it.
You need to be able to move on

989
00:51:13,400 –> 00:51:18,300
and why?
Because Our Lord, Jesus Christ.

990
00:51:18,300 –> 00:51:21,300
Really believe that God would
judge righteously and Paul says,

991
00:51:21,300 –> 00:51:24,000
the Romans rather give place to
wrath is written vengeance.

992
00:51:24,000 –> 00:51:25,300
Is mine?
I will repay.

993
00:51:26,600 –> 00:51:28,700
You know what you need to be
able to let go of those sort of

994
00:51:28,700 –> 00:51:30,000
issues.
We’re not talking about their

995
00:51:30,000 –> 00:51:32,300
here, we’re talking about
saying, okay, there’s no

996
00:51:32,300 –> 00:51:34,000
Redemptive value in this person
in the world.

997
00:51:34,000 –> 00:51:36,300
I’ll just suffer in silence and
move on.

998
00:51:38,600 –> 00:51:40,700
Perhaps in this situation,
overlooking the transcription

999
00:51:40,700 –> 00:51:43,000
aggression is the best thing
that we can do as an option at

1000
00:51:43,000 –> 00:51:46,400
moment.
The discretion of a man’s to

1001
00:51:46,400 –> 00:51:49,600
furth is to defer his anger, and
it is Glory to pass over a

1002
00:51:49,607 –> 00:51:54,100
transgression brother and
sisters far more often and far

1003
00:51:54,100 –> 00:51:56,600
more useful for us in our
occlusal interactions and our

1004
00:51:56,607 –> 00:51:59,000
interactions with their Brethren
and sisters, our families, our

1005
00:51:59,000 –> 00:52:03,000
husbands, our wives, our
children is to lovingly confront

1006
00:52:03,000 –> 00:52:06,700
the person.
Not what I said lovingly

1007
00:52:06,700 –> 00:52:08,800
confront.
You’re not going to try and

1008
00:52:08,800 –> 00:52:10,700
settle a score.
You’re not trying to win a

1009
00:52:10,707 –> 00:52:12,700
battle.
You’re going to try and work

1010
00:52:12,700 –> 00:52:17,300
through an issue.
Who did this very well?

1011
00:52:18,400 –> 00:52:20,100
Our Lord and Master.
Do you remember Peter?

1012
00:52:20,100 –> 00:52:21,600
Kay new said, no Lord.
You’re not going to go up to

1013
00:52:21,607 –> 00:52:22,900
Jerusalem.
Yagami crucified.

1014
00:52:22,900 –> 00:52:26,200
And he said to him, he rebuked
Peter saying get behind me.

1015
00:52:26,200 –> 00:52:28,700
Satan, you know that situation.
What did he rebuked him?

1016
00:52:30,500 –> 00:52:32,200
So the only person that Lord
rebuked.

1017
00:52:32,600 –> 00:52:34,800
No, two.
More of his disciples came with

1018
00:52:34,800 –> 00:52:37,600
another brilliant idea.
Let’s call down fire from heaven

1019
00:52:37,600 –> 00:52:41,300
and completely incinerate the
Samaritans, he turned and

1020
00:52:41,308 –> 00:52:43,400
rebuked them and said, you know,
not what manner of spirit you

1021
00:52:43,400 –> 00:52:46,700
are.
She didn’t just say, no, that’s

1022
00:52:46,700 –> 00:52:48,000
okay.
He rebuked them.

1023
00:52:52,300 –> 00:52:54,600
Take heed to yourselves, If thy
brother trespass against thee,

1024
00:52:54,600 –> 00:52:58,000
rebuke him, if he repent,
forgive him, what’s Happening

1025
00:52:58,000 –> 00:53:00,400
Here?
You look up the word rebuke, it

1026
00:53:00,400 –> 00:53:03,700
means to censure or to admonish.
Let me tell you what it doesn’t

1027
00:53:03,700 –> 00:53:05,700
mean.
It doesn’t mean to verbally

1028
00:53:05,700 –> 00:53:09,700
abuse, Sometimes we think,
right?

1029
00:53:10,100 –> 00:53:12,900
That particular situations like
this, I’m going to deal with it.

1030
00:53:12,900 –> 00:53:15,400
And boy, when I’m finished that
brother or sisters, certainly

1031
00:53:15,400 –> 00:53:17,500
going to know what I think about
this.

1032
00:53:17,900 –> 00:53:19,900
No rebuking.
According to scripture

1033
00:53:19,900 –> 00:53:21,800
translation is to sensual
demolish.

1034
00:53:23,400 –> 00:53:27,000
Peter said John’s Christ, says
in Luke 17.

1035
00:53:27,400 –> 00:53:29,600
You know what?
Take it ease up if you Brothers

1036
00:53:29,600 –> 00:53:34,600
trespass, go and talk about it
with him or her rebuke him, say

1037
00:53:34,600 –> 00:53:36,800
I’m sorry, it didn’t appreciate
that.

1038
00:53:37,800 –> 00:53:42,600
If he repents forgive him, why
you’re going to lay a matter

1039
00:53:42,600 –> 00:53:45,500
before someone who you perceive
has wronged you.

1040
00:53:46,200 –> 00:53:48,300
But always remember, you might
have perceived it wrong.

1041
00:53:49,100 –> 00:53:52,700
You might have misunderstood the
words or the nuances or the

1042
00:53:52,700 –> 00:53:54,900
situation you might actually be
wrong.

1043
00:53:56,200 –> 00:53:58,800
What do you do by following the
Lord’s example, in Luke 17,

1044
00:53:59,000 –> 00:54:00,200
you’re going to go and say to
them.

1045
00:54:00,500 –> 00:54:02,400
I’m giving you an opportunity to
share more information.

1046
00:54:02,400 –> 00:54:04,000
Perhaps, I don’t have all the
facts.

1047
00:54:04,000 –> 00:54:06,000
Perhaps I came in halfway
through the discussion.

1048
00:54:06,300 –> 00:54:08,600
Perhaps, I’m missing some of
this, I’m angry, but I need to

1049
00:54:08,600 –> 00:54:12,000
talk about it with you or you’re
also giving them an opportunity

1050
00:54:12,000 –> 00:54:13,700
to explain their motives.
They might say, well, look

1051
00:54:13,700 –> 00:54:15,800
brother.
Here’s why I said that because I

1052
00:54:15,800 –> 00:54:18,500
know that ten years ago, when
the closure a person, an

1053
00:54:18,500 –> 00:54:20,800
individual went down that path
is where they ended up today.

1054
00:54:21,000 –> 00:54:23,600
I’m concerned for you go.
Okay, thank you, I appreciate

1055
00:54:23,600 –> 00:54:26,200
that.
Well, they might actually Around

1056
00:54:26,200 –> 00:54:29,200
and say, you know what?
I haven’t slept, since I said

1057
00:54:29,200 –> 00:54:31,900
that to you, I’ve been very
distressed, I’m very sorry.

1058
00:54:32,200 –> 00:54:34,500
Please forgive me.
What’s happened?

1059
00:54:35,400 –> 00:54:38,800
Forgive him and you’ve gained
your brother, Matthew 8, a s

1060
00:54:38,800 –> 00:54:41,900
about reconciling.
Party’s back together.

1061
00:54:41,900 –> 00:54:44,200
Isn’t it confrontations?
Never the purpose.

1062
00:54:44,600 –> 00:54:46,400
It’s about to reconcile that
situation.

1063
00:54:46,700 –> 00:54:49,400
Now it comes to taking some sort
of constructive action.

1064
00:54:50,900 –> 00:54:52,800
You got a choice, you can let
the offense.

1065
00:54:52,800 –> 00:54:57,500
Go Christ, says to forgive them,
Absalom didn’t just remember how

1066
00:54:57,500 –> 00:55:02,100
that ended up.
You can actually do something

1067
00:55:02,100 –> 00:55:04,000
about it.
And if we choose to lovingly

1068
00:55:04,000 –> 00:55:06,400
confront the person who’s wrong,
it wronged us unique to do with

1069
00:55:06,400 –> 00:55:11,700
that anger.
You need to do it as Paul says

1070
00:55:11,700 –> 00:55:14,000
Brethren.
If a man be overtaken in a fault

1071
00:55:14,000 –> 00:55:17,000
ye which are spiritual restore,
such a one in the spirit of

1072
00:55:17,000 –> 00:55:19,500
meekness considering yourself,
lest you be tempted.

1073
00:55:20,300 –> 00:55:22,100
You might raise a conversation.
I you say, John, that’s

1074
00:55:22,100 –> 00:55:23,500
impossible.
How am I going to bring up?

1075
00:55:23,500 –> 00:55:26,000
This person’s hurt me, company
to the quick.

1076
00:55:26,000 –> 00:55:28,500
How am I going to do it?
Well, you make it a matter of

1077
00:55:28,500 –> 00:55:31,000
prayer and then perhaps you go
with something like this.

1078
00:55:32,100 –> 00:55:34,900
I’m feeling hurt and angry over
something that happened.

1079
00:55:35,500 –> 00:55:40,300
Maybe I misunderstood you But I
need to resolve this today.

1080
00:55:40,500 –> 00:55:45,700
Can we talk about it, please?
It’s got to be positive way of

1081
00:55:45,700 –> 00:55:48,500
moving forward, doesn’t it?
It’s a lot better than just

1082
00:55:48,500 –> 00:55:52,900
dwelling upon it.
There’s might explain to you.

1083
00:55:52,900 –> 00:55:56,200
Like it is said that, sorry you
misunderstood me or I’m sorry, I

1084
00:55:56,207 –> 00:55:57,700
didn’t mean that and I’m very
upset.

1085
00:55:57,700 –> 00:55:59,400
Please forgive me, both have an
anger.

1086
00:55:59,400 –> 00:56:02,400
The anger that welled up in you,
the red light is that we’re on

1087
00:56:02,400 –> 00:56:04,400
the dashboard is actually got
you to do something.

1088
00:56:04,900 –> 00:56:06,700
If you weren’t angry, you
probably would sit for a long

1089
00:56:06,700 –> 00:56:08,600
time and just now I’ll just bury
it.

1090
00:56:08,600 –> 00:56:10,800
No, that’s not good.
You need to actually be able to

1091
00:56:10,800 –> 00:56:13,600
get that on the table and talk
it through it.

1092
00:56:13,600 –> 00:56:17,300
Served a good purpose.
You might think we’ll John if

1093
00:56:17,300 –> 00:56:20,000
anger so marvelous.
How come the so many problems in

1094
00:56:20,000 –> 00:56:25,200
the world around about us?
Why is this emotion allow people

1095
00:56:25,200 –> 00:56:28,000
to get completely out of control
and do utterly ridiculous things

1096
00:56:28,000 –> 00:56:30,000
in the world?
And in the Ecclesia let’s be

1097
00:56:30,000 –> 00:56:34,700
blunt.
I’ll tell you why human nature

1098
00:56:34,700 –> 00:56:36,200
would have us, believe, brother
and sisters.

1099
00:56:36,200 –> 00:56:39,200
This is without the word of God
that all anger is of equal

1100
00:56:39,200 –> 00:56:42,800
value.
If I perceive I’ve been wronged,

1101
00:56:43,000 –> 00:56:46,400
then I’ve been wronged I
perceived that way perceive

1102
00:56:46,400 –> 00:56:48,700
reality, I believe it.
It happened to me as I see it,

1103
00:56:48,700 –> 00:56:50,200
so I’m right.
Everyone else is wrong.

1104
00:56:50,800 –> 00:56:53,800
This leads to the conclusion
that I have a right, I have a

1105
00:56:53,800 –> 00:56:56,100
right to be angry, it’s not
great.

1106
00:56:56,600 –> 00:56:58,000
That’s not what we’re seeing in
scripture.

1107
00:56:59,000 –> 00:57:01,200
We’ve got two types of anger, if
you allow me to split it in

1108
00:57:01,200 –> 00:57:05,500
half, you’ve got what we going
to call definitive anger, it’s

1109
00:57:05,500 –> 00:57:08,300
born out of wrongdoing.
Is when you witness,

1110
00:57:08,800 –> 00:57:12,700
perpetrators conducting evil
acts and you feel very angry

1111
00:57:12,700 –> 00:57:15,700
about that, you open up a
newspaper and in someone in

1112
00:57:15,700 –> 00:57:19,300
serious, drop chlorine bombs on
homeless children and killed 500

1113
00:57:19,300 –> 00:57:24,300
of them.
That’s evil, that’s wicked.

1114
00:57:26,300 –> 00:57:29,700
Well, your open up your paper
and you see, you know, some

1115
00:57:29,700 –> 00:57:33,400
African leaders flying around
the world in a million dollar, 5

1116
00:57:33,400 –> 00:57:35,900
million, 25 million, hundred
million dollar jet while he’s

1117
00:57:35,900 –> 00:57:39,000
Nation starves.
That’s evil, that’s theft.

1118
00:57:39,000 –> 00:57:42,900
That’s wickedness.
Or a brother leaves, his wife

1119
00:57:43,600 –> 00:57:47,300
and leaves behind children and
leaves the truth and goes out in

1120
00:57:47,308 –> 00:57:49,900
the world and teams up with some
secretary in the office.

1121
00:57:50,300 –> 00:57:53,000
That’s evil.
That’s wicked.

1122
00:57:54,100 –> 00:57:55,600
And that’s what we call defined
anger.

1123
00:57:56,000 –> 00:58:00,300
It’s the only kind of anger that
God has his anger is only ever

1124
00:58:00,300 –> 00:58:03,800
spurred because his Holiness is
challenged and all his examples

1125
00:58:03,800 –> 00:58:06,100
of just raised with it
challenges, you always holiness.

1126
00:58:07,200 –> 00:58:09,600
The second time of that type of
anger is where we feel

1127
00:58:09,600 –> 00:58:13,400
disappointed, but we’re in a bad
mood or we’ve got out of bed on

1128
00:58:13,400 –> 00:58:17,800
the wrong side in the morning.
And we feel hurt because of

1129
00:58:17,800 –> 00:58:19,600
something, we think someone
might have done.

1130
00:58:20,100 –> 00:58:25,200
This is distorted anger.
And you know what the scary

1131
00:58:25,200 –> 00:58:29,200
thing is, there is absolutely no
difference in the feeling.

1132
00:58:31,900 –> 00:58:34,200
Weather is distorted and you
feel that someone’s done that to

1133
00:58:34,200 –> 00:58:35,200
you.
Or whether you actually open

1134
00:58:35,200 –> 00:58:39,200
newspapers say this is evil.
The feeling of anger internally

1135
00:58:40,000 –> 00:58:43,900
will not be any different, but
the reason is incredibly

1136
00:58:43,900 –> 00:58:46,300
different.
In the first reason, it’s,

1137
00:58:47,000 –> 00:58:48,700
that’s evil against everything
God stands for.

1138
00:58:48,700 –> 00:58:51,400
The second reason.
Is this is all about Justice for

1139
00:58:51,400 –> 00:58:54,300
me.
Me me me.

1140
00:58:54,300 –> 00:58:56,000
And this is where the World
Views anger.

1141
00:58:56,000 –> 00:58:58,400
It’s all about me.
I’m allowed to be angry because

1142
00:58:58,400 –> 00:58:59,900
he cut me off.
I’m allowed to be angry because

1143
00:58:59,900 –> 00:59:01,900
they took my car.
Parking space, I’m allowed to be

1144
00:59:01,900 –> 00:59:05,100
angry because whatever.
Why?

1145
00:59:05,200 –> 00:59:08,300
It’s all about me.
That ever happened in scripture

1146
00:59:08,300 –> 00:59:09,900
where someone got angry because
of them.

1147
00:59:09,900 –> 00:59:13,300
Oh yeah.
Second Kings five Naman.

1148
00:59:14,300 –> 00:59:16,700
He comes down and he says to
Elijah.

1149
00:59:16,700 –> 00:59:18,400
No I’m here.
I’m here with his whole

1150
00:59:18,400 –> 00:59:20,600
Entourage and Luscious as yet
turns out he’s little messenger

1151
00:59:20,600 –> 00:59:22,600
and says, go and dip in the
Jordan 7 times.

1152
00:59:23,200 –> 00:59:26,400
Naaman was Roth.
This man had problems with

1153
00:59:26,400 –> 00:59:28,700
anger, probably made him an
excellent leader of an army

1154
00:59:28,700 –> 00:59:31,000
which went round massacring
slaughtering people because he

1155
00:59:31,000 –> 00:59:32,700
just didn’t really control
anger, very well.

1156
00:59:33,600 –> 00:59:36,700
Look, at the end there, he says,
Arbor are not a bother and

1157
00:59:36,700 –> 00:59:39,600
Firepower wizard two rivers of
Damascus better.

1158
00:59:40,000 –> 00:59:43,900
So he turned and went away.
You know, right age it was Roth

1159
00:59:43,900 –> 00:59:46,400
he’s got, did he seriously has
anger management issues.

1160
00:59:46,700 –> 00:59:52,500
It’s all about him.
But why was he so angry?

1161
00:59:53,700 –> 00:59:56,500
Well, in his mind, Elijah had
done him a huge Injustice.

1162
00:59:56,800 –> 00:59:59,500
He had given a lie, sure, a
chance to come out and prove

1163
00:59:59,500 –> 01:00:02,400
that his God was great.
The mighty name in it, tuned up

1164
01:00:02,400 –> 01:00:05,400
and allowed the God of this
little Nation, Israel, to show

1165
01:00:05,400 –> 01:00:08,000
how powerful he was and that
hadn’t happened.

1166
01:00:08,400 –> 01:00:10,200
What had happened.
Well, the fact that what

1167
01:00:10,200 –> 01:00:13,200
happened was Elijah had cured
and incurable disease had given

1168
01:00:13,200 –> 01:00:17,400
him the remedy to cure leprosy.
That was unheard of, it’ll be

1169
01:00:17,400 –> 01:00:19,800
like if you had cancer and
someone came said he’s the

1170
01:00:19,800 –> 01:00:23,300
remedy for curing cancer.
Like just just understand this.

1171
01:00:23,400 –> 01:00:26,900
This is an incurable disease,
he’s got and Elijah’s, give him

1172
01:00:26,900 –> 01:00:31,300
the Cure and he’s angry because
he perceives that upon him.

1173
01:00:31,300 –> 01:00:35,300
There’s been great hurt done and
he rages to all those round

1174
01:00:35,300 –> 01:00:37,300
about him.
The only thing that actually

1175
01:00:37,300 –> 01:00:41,700
saved him was the fact that some
of the men who Probably looked

1176
01:00:41,700 –> 01:00:43,600
at each other and went.
Here We Go Again.

1177
01:00:44,100 –> 01:00:46,200
Calm down.
Talked him through it.

1178
01:00:47,300 –> 01:00:51,200
And God could work with that.
So, there’s a person you got

1179
01:00:51,200 –> 01:00:54,400
very angry.
How do we recognize when would

1180
01:00:54,400 –> 01:00:56,800
be affected by distorted anger?
That’s that anger, which talks

1181
01:00:56,800 –> 01:00:59,100
all about me?
Well, it’s all about my

1182
01:00:59,100 –> 01:01:01,200
perceived wrongs of led.
Me to be angry.

1183
01:01:02,700 –> 01:01:05,300
Take name it, he perceived that
he had been treated bad.

1184
01:01:05,300 –> 01:01:06,800
It was all in his head, it
wasn’t real.

1185
01:01:06,800 –> 01:01:10,600
He just been given the cure for
an incurable disease, but in his

1186
01:01:10,600 –> 01:01:15,300
head, he said, oh I perceive
I’ve been treated poorly.

1187
01:01:15,700 –> 01:01:17,900
You know what we need to stop
and think and ask ourselves.

1188
01:01:17,900 –> 01:01:19,700
Preven sisters.
Is this anger based on my

1189
01:01:19,700 –> 01:01:22,800
perception?
This is why we’re stopping our

1190
01:01:22,800 –> 01:01:26,500
responses while we’re getting
all upset begin to examine our

1191
01:01:26,500 –> 01:01:28,000
anger.
Why are we so cross about this?

1192
01:01:28,000 –> 01:01:30,700
Is it distorted ingersoll’s.
A great example of that, he just

1193
01:01:30,700 –> 01:01:33,800
showed the store – he genuinely
believed in his head, that David

1194
01:01:33,800 –> 01:01:35,900
was going to kill him.
David raised an army.

1195
01:01:35,900 –> 01:01:38,900
David was going to wipe out his
whole family and he was going to

1196
01:01:38,908 –> 01:01:41,600
take the kingdom.
The reality was David had at

1197
01:01:41,600 –> 01:01:42,800
least two opportunities to kill
him.

1198
01:01:42,900 –> 01:01:47,000
And never acted upon it.
The reality was that, every time

1199
01:01:47,000 –> 01:01:49,600
Saul went after him, David says
to him, right here to kill you.

1200
01:01:49,900 –> 01:01:52,000
So the reality was, he was going
to kill him, but the perception

1201
01:01:52,000 –> 01:01:54,800
his head was, he’s going to so
he acted upon his perception.

1202
01:01:55,100 –> 01:02:00,300
And he dealt with what we call
distorted anger, How do we

1203
01:02:00,300 –> 01:02:02,700
handle bad anger?
What’s bad angle?

1204
01:02:02,700 –> 01:02:04,400
Well, I guess distorted angers
bad anger.

1205
01:02:05,100 –> 01:02:08,600
So often we base our decisions
upon information, that’s wrong.

1206
01:02:10,200 –> 01:02:12,300
You know, something comes fast
as we hear something, it’s

1207
01:02:12,800 –> 01:02:15,300
circumstantial, its
generalizations expectation, is

1208
01:02:15,300 –> 01:02:19,300
personal preference, whatever it
might be, we go, we’ve been

1209
01:02:19,300 –> 01:02:22,500
wronged, we create an anchor,
that’s distorted.

1210
01:02:22,800 –> 01:02:25,300
And if we dealt well upon it,
we’ve got the potential to turn

1211
01:02:25,300 –> 01:02:28,900
that into sin.
That ever happened in Scripture?

1212
01:02:30,700 –> 01:02:33,400
And a Joshua, remember
two-and-a-half drives a heading

1213
01:02:33,400 –> 01:02:35,800
back to the Eastern side of the,
the River Jordan.

1214
01:02:36,300 –> 01:02:38,400
And when they got there, they
built a huge pile of stones

1215
01:02:38,600 –> 01:02:40,800
because they wanted to remember
that they were still part of the

1216
01:02:40,808 –> 01:02:42,100
nation of Israel.
What happened?

1217
01:02:42,100 –> 01:02:44,400
What are the nation of Israel?
Do they quickly all Rush

1218
01:02:44,400 –> 01:02:45,200
together?
I went, huh.

1219
01:02:45,800 –> 01:02:47,800
We know what they’re doing.
They’re building an altar.

1220
01:02:48,300 –> 01:02:49,600
Well, they were better than
that.

1221
01:02:49,600 –> 01:02:51,900
They teamed up got their
soldiers, got their captains of

1222
01:02:51,900 –> 01:02:55,400
thousands, and went charging
down to say, what on Earth are

1223
01:02:55,400 –> 01:02:59,100
you doing?
So look at that, the whole

1224
01:02:59,100 –> 01:03:01,000
Congregation of the children of
Israel, gathered them together,

1225
01:03:01,000 –> 01:03:03,100
at Shiloh, to go up to war
against them.

1226
01:03:03,600 –> 01:03:05,800
This wasn’t just a couple of
Brethren coming to ask what he

1227
01:03:05,800 –> 01:03:08,900
doing.
They’ve armed up to load up and

1228
01:03:08,900 –> 01:03:16,200
they’re going off to war.
What are the men Everybody Get

1229
01:03:16,200 –> 01:03:17,600
Enough?
Try to master say they say,

1230
01:03:17,600 –> 01:03:19,100
whoa!
Whoa!

1231
01:03:19,900 –> 01:03:22,300
If that was what we were doing.
Building an altar.

1232
01:03:22,300 –> 01:03:24,500
The first so worship false gods,
kill us.

1233
01:03:24,500 –> 01:03:26,800
Now, don’t save save us.
Not this day.

1234
01:03:26,800 –> 01:03:30,200
Destroy us.
That was never Our intention.

1235
01:03:35,400 –> 01:03:38,300
And what happened like talked
about it and they said we’re

1236
01:03:38,300 –> 01:03:41,200
happy.
We’re now, we’ll go back, you go

1237
01:03:41,200 –> 01:03:43,000
on.
And the thing please, the

1238
01:03:43,000 –> 01:03:44,800
children of Israel and they
bless God.

1239
01:03:47,600 –> 01:03:50,100
I guess that’s never happened in
occlusal life in the last 100

1240
01:03:50,100 –> 01:03:52,100
years has it we want to cleanse
yourself to another closure.

1241
01:03:52,100 –> 01:03:55,400
What on Earth are you doing?
Wyman.

1242
01:03:56,000 –> 01:03:59,900
Yeah, can happen Carter.
What if you decided to paint

1243
01:03:59,900 –> 01:04:02,400
your hall?
I think you’ve just painted it

1244
01:04:02,400 –> 01:04:04,100
on the outside and done lots of
work.

1245
01:04:05,300 –> 01:04:07,600
What if someone driving past and
a little cliche Down, the Road

1246
01:04:07,600 –> 01:04:11,000
Enfield, drove past and came
into infinitely, tedric Alice,

1247
01:04:11,000 –> 01:04:15,000
panted the whole bear with me
here, that painted it pink.

1248
01:04:16,900 –> 01:04:23,000
And we all say p in a situation
of the world where these evil

1249
01:04:23,000 –> 01:04:27,900
effeminate colors are speaking
about a Godless perception of

1250
01:04:27,900 –> 01:04:32,100
where people want to live pink.
So we all quickly break open the

1251
01:04:32,100 –> 01:04:33,900
cabinet’s.
Got our paint rollers got

1252
01:04:33,900 –> 01:04:35,200
brother.
Jeff hands is a painter and

1253
01:04:35,200 –> 01:04:37,200
said, lead the charge.
We coming up to teach regalia.

1254
01:04:37,200 –> 01:04:40,500
We all marched up the road.
We got up here and we said, what

1255
01:04:40,500 –> 01:04:44,400
are you doing?
And the brother who’s running

1256
01:04:44,400 –> 01:04:48,400
the painting and might have been
able to his Brethren course,

1257
01:04:48,400 –> 01:04:50,100
it’s pink.
It’s the primer.

1258
01:04:50,400 –> 01:04:52,600
We can only put on a pink
primer, you get primer and two

1259
01:04:52,600 –> 01:04:54,800
colors.
It’s pink, it’s pink and we put

1260
01:04:54,800 –> 01:04:56,600
on Pink and then we’re going to
paint it another color.

1261
01:04:58,300 –> 01:05:00,500
Silly story.
Isn’t it would never happen in

1262
01:05:00,500 –> 01:05:02,300
reality because we don’t talk to
each other first.

1263
01:05:02,300 –> 01:05:06,700
Wouldn’t we?
Let’s make sure we do in the

1264
01:05:06,700 –> 01:05:09,700
future talk to each other.
Let’s not launch pre-emptive.

1265
01:05:09,700 –> 01:05:11,800
Strikes against someone who’s
put the pink primer and the

1266
01:05:11,800 –> 01:05:14,400
examples.
Silly on the outside of their

1267
01:05:14,400 –> 01:05:15,700
Hall.
Without actually going and

1268
01:05:15,700 –> 01:05:19,400
saying, brother, I know you here
in the same city or any others

1269
01:05:19,400 –> 01:05:22,300
in the same country or in the
same Fellowship, you mind, if I

1270
01:05:22,308 –> 01:05:24,600
come in, have a cup of tea or
coffee with you or can I ring

1271
01:05:24,600 –> 01:05:29,300
you let’s talk this through.
You know what the ten tribes

1272
01:05:29,300 –> 01:05:34,200
never would have stood for false
worship and that’s right.

1273
01:05:34,400 –> 01:05:39,800
God wouldn’t either But the way
you go about, finding that out

1274
01:05:39,800 –> 01:05:41,800
is pretty important.
And, of course, Reuben could

1275
01:05:41,800 –> 01:05:43,300
have said, I’m by the way, we’re
leaving now.

1276
01:05:43,300 –> 01:05:45,100
And when we get down there,
going to build a huge pile of

1277
01:05:45,100 –> 01:05:46,600
stones, and this is what it’s
for.

1278
01:05:46,600 –> 01:05:48,300
That would have helped the
situation too.

1279
01:05:50,200 –> 01:05:53,400
We need to make sure that we’re
not angry before we get our

1280
01:05:53,400 –> 01:05:55,300
paint brushes and go charging up
the road.

1281
01:05:56,000 –> 01:05:58,200
And if you see em feel, paints,
their haul, any other color, but

1282
01:05:58,200 –> 01:06:01,100
cream actually, if you want to
help us, find out how we can

1283
01:06:01,100 –> 01:06:05,600
come down, that’s fine.
You see the action was correct

1284
01:06:05,600 –> 01:06:08,100
with the ten tribes but their
information was wrong.

1285
01:06:10,500 –> 01:06:12,700
What are we saying here?
Answers the matter before.

1286
01:06:12,700 –> 01:06:14,400
He’s it’s Folly and shame unto
him.

1287
01:06:14,400 –> 01:06:19,100
And so often we do that because
we think we know why how where

1288
01:06:19,100 –> 01:06:21,600
what’s going on?
So long as his don’t do that,

1289
01:06:24,000 –> 01:06:25,600
And the challenge, of course, is
our relationships.

1290
01:06:25,600 –> 01:06:29,000
How do we Relate to each other
in the news.

1291
01:06:30,800 –> 01:06:32,600
Because the fact is the other
person probably never intended

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to make you angry.
Perhaps you’ve just to let that

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bad anger get control of your
life.

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So what we’ve covered tonight is
some steps that we can actually

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apply in our life to say.
Yeah.

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Will be angry and sin.
Not will follow the example of

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Lord Jesus cross and we won’t
get it right.

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But I tell you what, if we don’t
try and follow it when from no

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hope of getting anywhere near
where.

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Here’s What do you want to do?
Next time we get together

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because God willing there,
another class is what we want to

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cover.
We want to look at anger and

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forgiveness, important,
absolutely?

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Any examples in scripture,
plenty, that will make us sit up

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and say, yeah, how do I react to
that?

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We want to look at how anger
affects families and children.

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What’s the impact of anger on a,
on a family?

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And how does that transcribe
into the way the children and

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what about, when you’re angry
with yourself?

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I’m so angry at myself here.
I am again on a Sunday morning

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and I’ve done the same thing.
Talk about that will talk about

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how to speak to an angry person,
plenty of information.

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Plenty of information.
And the last one I want to cover

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is when we are angry with God.
I could promise you that sitting

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here tonight there are people
who are angry with God.

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Who feel that God has let me
down.

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I can’t understand what this
person’s got this.

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I can’t understand why that
person died and maybe angers the

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wrong way.
Maybe it’s just struggling to

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understand God in relation to
how I feel about things.

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We’re going to spend quite a bit
of time, looking at subject

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brother and sisters because some
Monumental Brethren struggle

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with that challenge.
Not only Jonah, we got to see

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some next week.
God willing.

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