224: John Pople – Learning To Pray

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Welcome to Good Burger selfie
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I’m Levi and I’m Chris and I’m
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Welcome to the good
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This is brother Brian.
This week’s talk is a Class by a

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brother.
John poeple that’s called

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learning to pray.
It’s the last class in a series

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of four under the theme growing
closer to God that was

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originally given at the New
Zealand Bible School in 2015 and

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it was hard to choose which one
to post.

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As all four are very good.
My wife, Rachel actually had me

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listen to Third class, which is
about giving to the poor.

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Jamie listen to it a few years
ago and it really stuck with us.

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And as changed my perspective on
how to view those who are less

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fortunate and need of Grace, But
then the guy around listening to

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all the classes and I was hooked
on the first class which is all

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about roof and the showing of
Mercy.

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But ultimately I settled on this
one because I felt that the

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start of a new year, this was
the best message for all of us

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to consider.
Learning to pray.

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It’s not a how to step by step
breakdown.

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So much as brother, John asked
the opening question.

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Why pray?
And then elaborates on the only

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good answer that we can all
agree on. because Jesus prayed,

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The part that grabbed me by the
heart and that I anticipate will

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be the most memorable for you as
well as near the end.

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When he reads to Anonymous
letters about people’s prayer

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life experiences and the stories
are very jarring and raw and

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Powerful.
And my hope is that it will help

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bring out our shared sense of
humanity.

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And our need to pray with
urgency and purpose for our

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Lord’s return. maybe this year
in Jerusalem, The whole series

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is being loaded into the
extended podcast today as well.

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So as always, we hope this
strengthens your faith and

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brightens your day for their
John poeple from the series

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growing closer to God.
This is learning to pray your

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evening.
Once more my dear brothers and

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sisters I do offer an apology
considering its come this late

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in the week, but I should
explain all these slides can be

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made available to you.
Not only brother tone is

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cleverly, encrypting them along
the DVDs.

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But if you have your own flash
drive, I can happily give you

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any of the PowerPoint series,
you need.

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So don’t feel that you have to
take notes to get the

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information, but if you like to
take notes, obviously please

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continue to do.
So this is the last talk mayor

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of this series of for growing
closer to God.

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And now we’re going to look Look
at the best example of all.

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We’re going to look at the Lord.
Jesus Christ.

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We don’t therefore look at his
life as we do at the others, to

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see how he closed the Gap with a
by overcoming a shortcoming that

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he had.
Because it’s not, it’s not

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possible for us to tag
shortcomings in the development

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of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
But if there’s something, I

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think we’re Jesus, really stands
ahead and shows us a way in

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which we can all improve.
It’s about learning to pray.

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I’m not suggesting you don’t
know how to pray but how to

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develop one’s prayer?
Life prayer.

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I speak personally, but perhaps
I speak for more than just one

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prayer, is a very difficult
activity.

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It’s very difficult to know the
point.

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The reason the correct manner of
construction, you already know

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that the Lord God knows
everything you think and feel

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even before you express it.
So you wonder even about its

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value so it is a very difficult
thing but I have every

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confidence Confidence.
That if a disciple will really

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just say to me, I want to be a
better disciple.

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What should I work on almost
certainly, the idea answer would

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be improve your prayer life.
I just feel that that’s likely

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to be the case, a very difficult
answer, but perhaps the

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necessary one.
Why pray?

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Straight question.
Why pray?

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I think many good answers.
Could be given?

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What might you suggest?
To talk to God, and that’s good.

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And yet, you know, if I were to
be adversarial, I would say.

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But God already knows what I
think, but you’re still correct.

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I don’t dispute that.
And perhaps, I think it’s a

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really good answer.
If you didn’t hear Brother Paul.

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The idea is that in articulating
and vocalizing your own

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thoughts, you begin to
crystallize them.

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In other words, yes.
God knew what you were thinking

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before you prayed, but you might
not have done.

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And as you actually begin to
find words or at least feelings

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in which to express that prayer,
we learn to refine our feelings

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and understand more about what
it is that we really want.

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We’re acknowledging God, we
acknowledge In his presence.

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Yes, we’re acknowledging.
That we know that he’s there and

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here’s a very simple answer that
attracts me, why pray?

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Because Jesus did We’re told he
is our example and if his

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residence with the almighty
father was even greater than

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ours.
I his distance between him and

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his father was less than ours.
Then God knew what Jesus was

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thinking, even more, if it’s not
a foolish statement, then God

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knows what we’re thinking.
And yet, Jesus prayed, and if

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Jesus did it, we can trust.
It’s the right thing.

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Remember, one of the charges we
have in discipleship is become

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like Jesus.
Well, to become like Jesus.

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Isis.
We do what Jesus did.

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Not just in appearance, but more
in actual lifestyle, we’re going

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to try a little bit later on to
become like the 1960s that’s all

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rather fun and realistically the
only thing we can modify in an

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evening, isn’t it?
Our outward appearance so we’ll

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probably be modifying our dress
code and our outward appearance

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to become like the 1960s.
That’s just an external match.

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But if we’re going to become
like Jesus, we become like Jesus

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by doing what Jesus did the news
about Jesus spread all the more

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So the crowds of people came to
hear him and to be healed of

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their sicknesses but Jesus often
I noticed that whether Jesus

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often withdrew to lonely places
and prayed Jesus prayed

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frequently do I pray frequently
I’m not sure it’s frequently

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enough.
Why don’t I pray frequently

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enough?
Because my life is already full

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of stressful activities that’s
perhaps the stupidest answer you

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can ever give to a question.
Isn’t it?

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My life is full of stress, so I
don’t have time to pray.

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What were you hoping prayer
would do?

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Well, reduce the stress but I
don’t take time to reduce the

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stress because I’m stressed, you
see?

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And, again, that’s Brother,
Paul’s Point.

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By the time I say it out loud.
I suddenly realized, that’s

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ridiculous.
I need to change what I’m doing.

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Jesus was the closest to the
father of closest of all to the

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father I and the father are one.
He said, what a beautiful

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statement and given doctrinal
concerns.

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We often And take that statement
and listen to it and say, yes.

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But he doesn’t mean, we’ll never
mind what he doesn’t mean.

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Let’s pause for a moment’s
reflection amongst those of

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like-minded spirit and pause to
consider what he did mean.

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I and my father are one.
I don’t need to add anything.

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That’s a beautiful statement.
Why pray?

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Your kingdom come for example.
Jesus instructed.

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His disciples asked Lord, how
should we pray?

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And he gave them some suggested
ideas and one of those was your

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kingdom.
Come.

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I hope we believe that.
Do we believe that God’s kingdom

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will come?
I’m hoping that’s a general.

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Yes, a little quieter than I
hoped for but it’s still a form

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of the sensor will go with that.
Will it?

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Come?
Yes, we believe it will come

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brothers and sisters.
Will God’s kingdom, come if I

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don’t pray for it.
Yes.

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Let me go one step further, will
it come if I pray for it, not to

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come.
Yes.

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So, why pray?
Why pray for that?

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That’s not a case of
articulating.

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My understanding any better?
I already know what the

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understanding is your kingdom
come.

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It’s a very direct statement.
It’s not a complex feeling.

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So why pray?
It helps our conviction, that’s

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an excellent answer.
We’re going to come onto that.

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I think there’s one I’m going to
come to that just directly but

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just before I come to that one.
Let the days may be shortened,

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who said that very good.
TJ the back there.

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It very well may change the
speed at which the kingdom comes

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that.
The days may be shortened.

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His brother, TJ said there’s
good scriptural evidence.

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Not only in that promise for
something that hasn’t yet

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happened.
But for the things that did

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happen when they were prayed for
that the fervency and the

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multitude and the magnitude of
prayers offered actually

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affected the speed at which the
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And the more people praying
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which God’s will played out.
And I think that’s maybe why one

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of the reasons it’s said in the
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No, man knows the day, or the
hour or the year when the son of

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man shall return.
And I think one of the reasons,

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no man knows the day is because
the day is not fixed.

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And one of the parameters on
which it flexes is, how much

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prayer and how much desire we
express and that the father

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hears US Express, Do You Really
Want Jesus to come if you do

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pray, pray more frequently for
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Pray harder for it and it very
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According to the promises of
scripture may come sooner that’s

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reasonable.
Every time, God speaks about the

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coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.
He tends to use the analogy of

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I’m somehow Vista barley or
wheat or anything ask any

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farmer.
Don’t look at me the closest

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I’ve got to farming is a
roommate growing tomatoes on the

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windowsill that’s about as close
as it gets but that’s that’s the

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limit of my understanding of
farming but even then I gained

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enough education from that to
think about the coming of the

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Lord Jesus Christ on what day
are you going to pick those

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Tomatoes roommate?
Well, What did the roommate

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reply?
when they’re ready, when the red

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not green, And so, who are the
tomatoes?

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That’s us.
Our color dictates the coming of

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harvest time.
So that’s a very good reason why

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to pray.
It also changes us, two people

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have already commented
particularly to that end.

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It changes us.
It increases our desire by

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making our vision more tangible,
the more we picture something,

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even if it isn’t physically in
front of us, if there’s a

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picture of it in our mind, then
the more we are attached to it.

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So as you You pray for the
kingdom paint pictures of it in

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your mind think what certain
parts of the earth will look

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like physically or
geographically, or

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socioeconomically, or whatever
paint, those pictures and look

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at those pictures and describe
those pictures in your prayer

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that you desire, because then
the picture will make things

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more tangible to.
You are, are there any in the

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room who have a predilection for
chocolate?

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Perhaps, raise a hand.
Warrick.

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Your hand was up faster than
anyone else’s.

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I’m, I’m very impressed.
Oh, I’m always guilty.

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That’s just taking his red.
I am.

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Yes, that’s right.
Stop gets not a guilty thing.

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Don’t worry.
Chocolate is not bad.

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So this is rapidly coming to my
own defense.

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Anyone would fancy some
chocolate right now.

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Realize you’ve just had dinner.
Andrew would good for Andrew.

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Okay.
So think about how much you

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might like that chocolate now.
Have a look at that for a few

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seconds.
Yeah, there you go.

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There you go.
Let’s go.

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And you may notice that your
disease.

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If you had that desire to start
with that, your desire may

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actually increase.
Why is your desire increased?

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Because there’s a visual
realization of the desire

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itself.
That’s if that’s true for

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chocolate, something that’s
simple and something that

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meaningless.
Then my goodness.

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How much more true is that going
to be for the kingdom of God.

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Paint a picture, see the
details.

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Describe the details in your
prayer, so it changes us

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Desiring.
The kingdom actually makes us

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more suitable for the kingdom,
God is love and so those who

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populate his kingdom best, are
those who love it.

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Most those who Love it.
Most of those who desire it,

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most, and those to desire it.
Most are those who have

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increased their Desire by
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Becca’s, let me take that
picture away because otherwise,

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you’ll, you’ll be thinking
you’ve been right.

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Very good, you’re welcome.
That’s how we can operate in our

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prayers to a change, both
ourselves and potentially, can

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we believe it even potentially
the start time of the kingdom?

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It is still likely though, ever
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The kingdom will come in 2015,
but if not Gene is put around

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the corner and awaits our
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Three words, when preparing, for
the kingdom was on, Jesus mind,

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and he spoke to that, that
affected all of a sudden, he

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spat out three random words
right in the middle of his

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dialogue.
And he said, Remember Lot’s,

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wife.
What was that about?

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Why remember Lot’s wife we don’t
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Remember Lot’s, wife, desire.
Where is your desire?

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We are going forwards out of
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Not backwards.
Where is your desire?

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Your desire is where your vision
is, where was lots wife’s Vision

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pointing forward for a while.
And then, well, well, Kind of

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like what was back there.
The Israelites in the

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wilderness, said similar things
and perished there in remember

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Lot’s, wife her desire was
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Ours needs to be ahead.
Lord, teach us to pray, they

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said and so, Jesus gave them
this prayer, Our Father in

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heaven Hallowed Be Your Name,
Your Kingdom Come your will be

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done on Earth as it is in
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Give us today our daily bread
forgive us our debts as we also

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have forgiven, our debtors and
lead us not into temptation, but

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Deliver Us from Evil.
I’ve divided, if you are able to

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discern colors, I’ve divided
that prayer into three separate

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colors because I think there are
three separate sections that are

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in that prayer.
And I think that’s as much of

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the instruction Jesus gave as
ever the words were, I think he

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wants us to learn and use.
I don’t which wish to criticize

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my friend, but I have a friend
who is now of relatively great

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age over the age of 80, not a
brother, but he prays at

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mealtime, which is Good.
And he is thankful to God, which

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is excellent.
And at every meal time, he says

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these words and no other and he
eats three meals a day and he’s

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over 80 years of age.
And if that’s three meals a day,

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I’m going to get into trouble
here.

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Three meals a day at about 300,
were days per year.

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That’s going to be about a
thousand prayers per year.

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And he’s done this for at least
50 years.

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He said this prayer 50,000
times, I’m unable to persuade

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him to try anything different.
Now, was that what Jesus wanted

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from us to say this prayer
50,000 times?

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I think it’s an excellent
prayer, but I think he wants us

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to learn the principles in the
structure as well as the content

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of the prayer and use it in
designing and adapting, our own

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prayers to that end.
What do you notice about the

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purple section?
What That prayer about.

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It’s about things about God.
We don’t need complex language

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here.
What’s the green words about?

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Things about God’s will I like
that?

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I heard that from somewhere
things about God’s plans and

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what’s the blue part about but
us things about us, Lord teach

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us to pray that the disciples.
Okay said Jesus do this first,

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pray about God mention him,
comment on him, comment on your

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relationship with him.
Then think about the plans that

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God has in place and then think
about you I’ve known that for a

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long time and to this very day,
I can still catch myself in

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prayers, private prayers, that
immediately launched into, it’s

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about me.
Thanks, and I catch myself on

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that on at least a weekly basis.
And yet, the Lord has said, this

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is how to pray in this order.
There’s another sequence of

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things that has this same
structure.

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Do you know what it is?
I’m sure you do.

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The Ten Commandments was
nervously, whispered over here,

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but was more Well confidently
said over there I think,

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absolutely, right.
If we look at the Ten

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Commandments, No other gods
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Love the Lord your God.
You shall not bow down to Idols.

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You shall not misuse the name of
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Your God.
Those are things about God then

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you have remember the Sabbath
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Holy honor your father and your
mother things about God’s plans,

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he had a plan and a structure
for the week and for the family

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and finally things about us.
In fact, if there are Ten

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Commandments on two tablets of
stone and Like the example given

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in the background, the Bible is
clear that the tablets were

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written on both sides, most TV
and movie representations mess

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that.
But if there are Ten

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Commandments written on both
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perhaps reasonable to suspect,
they were five Commandments on

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one tablet and five Commandments
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If so, there was an entire
tablet, about things about God

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and an entire tablet.
The second tablet, things about

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us, there’s an actual
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There, even physically.
I notice if that’s speculation

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is true.
So always God’s things God’s

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guard.
God’s plans, our needs.

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So You shall not murder.
Its number 6.

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It’s the most important offense
that can ever be committed

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against, man.
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I will see in the online
newspapers.

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People talking about murder as
the ultimate crime, it is the

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ultimate crime.
But only if there is no God,

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once you’ve thrown the first
tablet of stone out the window,

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then it’s the top commandment
and that’s what’s happened in

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our world today.
But in actual fact, God says

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this is number 6 but number
three might be don’t misuse my

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name which people Cheerilee do
multiple times per day.

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Our prayers need to have the
same structure.

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So if we’re going to learn how
to pray, I would say.

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That’s at one concrete, way we
can learn how to pray.

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Analyze your own prayers whilst
you’re saying them.

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Am I praying about God before?
I’m praying about me. if I could

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add any, Thoughts or learning
from personal experience.

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I would say this would be my
second piece of advice.

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Pray directly.
What do I mean by that?

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I mean pray for what you want
and you might say well that’s

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stupid.
I do.

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Do you ask yourself?
Do you actually pray for what

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you want?
Here’s my guess at the things

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that we want.
I can’t speak for all of you.

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I have to guess.
We want to be happy and

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fulfilled.
We want to save the lives.

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Of others.
Genuinely, we want to be closer

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to God.
We want to have protection.

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For our loved ones.
We want to have our minds

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transformed so that we desire
the things of Christ, not the

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things of the world, we want to
feel secure about our future.

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We want peace of mind.
Do we pray for those things?

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I wonder those are the actual
goals, but I wonder if the

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prayers that I hear and the
prayers often for which I am

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solicited.
Please, would you help me pray

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for this tend to look like this.
Their prayers for a home.

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A spouse.
A baptism.

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A job children. and I suppose,
my guess is, the reason that we

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pray for these is because we
believe these will fulfill these

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I want to be fulfilled, so I
pray for a partner but what did

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I do that for?
I should pray for fulfillment.

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I want to be closer to God.
So I pray to be involved in a

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big preaching campaign.
I want to feel secure about my

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future, so I pray that I’ll get
that job but I might get that

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job and not be the slightest bit
secure in my future.

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I might be married and not feel
the slightest bit fulfilled.

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Why didn’t I pray for what?
I actually wanted.

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And so over the years, I’ve
learned to pray for this column

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and not for any of the tangibles
that I might trick my mind into

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thinking, what will actually
come in this column, and there’s

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another advantage to praying
directly, you’re able to catch

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yourself out when you cheat.
Do not be, do not be surprised

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that the human mind is deceitful
above all things.

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You might pray that this
preaching campaign, be

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tremendously successful, and we
have at least five, maybe ten

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baptisms as a result of three
months work, for example, that’s

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a beautiful thing to pray for.
Isn’t it?

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But what if I’m praying
actually, to be proved right.

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I designed this preaching
campaign and I said, do it like

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this and the other guy had tried
to do it like that for six

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months and nothing happened.
So if we do it like this, like I

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said and we get a lot of
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That’s why I’m praying for the
baptisms and I can catch myself

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in things like that.
Sometimes what I’m really

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praying for is to be proved
right or to indulge myself or to

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look Superior and that can
happen when we play Pray for

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these indirect tangibles because
in the indirect tangible, you

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can hide a lot of things that
your little undermined will

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sneak in under the tangible.
But when you pray directly for

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fulfillment or protection for
loved ones, without any of the

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tangible coverings, you will
discover.

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If any of these, rather less
worthy things have crept in with

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your thinking, because you’ll be
analyzing your desires,

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absolutely directly.
So, that’s my second piece.

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Of advice.
Pray directly.

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God will choose whatever
tangibles to supply in order to

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fulfill the direct goal for
which you’re praying.

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So at this point, we come to a
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I’m going to show you a literal
testimonies of real people.

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Neither of whom, you know, who
have commented and agreed to

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comment publicly on their prayer
life.

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Now, at some point particular in
the second case, it’s very

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personal.
I’ve cut out, the bits that are

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sort of a little bit too
gruesome.

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But it’s I think it’s useful to
see real people.

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In action in their prayer Lives
who are happy to comment upon

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them and one of them is a very
happy story that will be the

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second one there.
For a first will address this

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one.
The name is a pseudonym, not her

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real name and she comments in
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If you had asked me as a young
Christian, whether I believed in

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prayer, I would have quickly
said, yes, I would have told you

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about the time I spun out in the
snow and didn’t get hurt.

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Well, the time I dropped a house
key somewhere in my 74, Dodge,

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Dart, and couldn’t find it for
hours.

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Until I prayed, maybe God takes
care of, neophyte Believers.

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I don’t know.
He doesn’t seem to take care of

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Old-Timers though.
I could list probably 100

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prayers.
That haven’t been answered.

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I’m not speaking of selfish
prayers but important prayers,

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God keep my kids safe.
Keep them away from the wrong

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crowd.
All three ended up in trouble

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with the law abusing drugs and
alcohol.

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I’ve got to say Jesus story of
the persistent Widow Sowers,

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thousands of people pray for a
Christian leader, who has cancer

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and he dies.
What did Jesus mean by the

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parable that we keep beating?
Our heads against a wall.

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I’d guess maybe 20% of my
prayers, get anything like the

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answer.
I want over the time I give up,

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I pray for those things, I
believe will happen, or I just

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don’t pray.
I review my journal and see God,

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00:27:25,400 –> 00:27:29,500
doing less and less.
I get mad like a child.

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00:27:29,500 –> 00:27:32,500
I stop talking.
I’m passive aggressive with God.

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00:27:32,800 –> 00:27:37,500
I put him off maybe later.
I went to a mentor and poured

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00:27:37,500 –> 00:27:40,100
out, my soul describing in
detail.

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00:27:40,100 –> 00:27:42,700
All, I’ve been through in the
past few years with my health

444
00:27:42,700 –> 00:27:45,700
and especially with my kids.
What do I do?

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00:27:46,300 –> 00:27:50,600
I asked he sat there for the
longest time and said, I don’t

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00:27:50,600 –> 00:27:54,500
know, Joanne, he sighed.
I waited for words of wisdom.

447
00:27:55,000 –> 00:27:57,700
None came.
That’s how it is with prayer,

448
00:27:57,700 –> 00:28:03,300
too. so, One thing we can
conclude the prayer.

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Life was a bad experience.
What had gone wrong challenge

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00:28:08,100 –> 00:28:11,100
yourself.
That woman has come to you

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00:28:11,400 –> 00:28:15,100
earlier, on this afternoon, sat
down next to you on the bench

452
00:28:15,300 –> 00:28:18,900
and said, precisely that.
What’s your response?

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00:28:20,100 –> 00:28:23,200
If we’re Disciples of Christ, we
should be ready for moments such

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as these.
We’ll think about that in just a

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minute, but before we do, let’s
introduce our second testimony.

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Hilda, my family in Costa Rica
had no money.

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And so when I was four years
old, my mother sold me into

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00:28:40,800 –> 00:28:43,500
sexual slavery.
Men pay a lot of money to have

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their way with children.
So while other kids, my age went

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00:28:46,500 –> 00:28:50,200
to school, I worked in a brothel
turning over all my earnings to

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00:28:50,200 –> 00:28:54,200
my mother, all my life.
I felt ugly and dirty ashamed.

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00:28:54,500 –> 00:28:58,000
I learned to drink alcohol, and
use cocaine very early as a way

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00:28:58,000 –> 00:29:01,200
to dull the pain.
When I was a teenager, I had two

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00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:04,100
children of my own from then on,
I worked harder.

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Earn money to support my
children.

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00:29:06,700 –> 00:29:08,800
It was the only way I could show
my love for them.

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00:29:09,700 –> 00:29:11,500
One day, a customer.
Got Furious.

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00:29:11,800 –> 00:29:13,400
When I wouldn’t do what he
asked.

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00:29:13,700 –> 00:29:16,200
He pulled a knife on me.
Then hit me with a baseball bat,

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00:29:16,200 –> 00:29:20,000
splitting my head open, they
took me to the hospital and I

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00:29:20,000 –> 00:29:22,400
lay in that bed plotting to kill
myself.

472
00:29:23,000 –> 00:29:26,500
Finally, I got down on my knees
beside the bed and plead with

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00:29:26,500 –> 00:29:31,000
God, I wanted somehow to escape
prostitution to become a real

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00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:34,100
mother to my children and God
answered that prayer.

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00:29:34,200 –> 00:29:36,300
With a miracle.
He gave me a vision.

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00:29:36,700 –> 00:29:40,500
I actually saw the words look
for Rahab Foundation.

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00:29:41,100 –> 00:29:44,200
I was barely literate and didn’t
know the word Rahab, it’s not a

478
00:29:44,200 –> 00:29:46,400
Spanish word.
One of the nurses.

479
00:29:46,400 –> 00:29:51,200
Help me find their number though
and I called the phone rang and

480
00:29:51,200 –> 00:29:54,200
rang and I prayed Lord, if you
really exist, make somebody

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00:29:54,200 –> 00:29:57,800
answer that phone at last a
woman named Marie, Liana.

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00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:01,000
Answered turns out.
She was the director of Rahab,

483
00:30:01,100 –> 00:30:04,100
which was closed for the day,
but she had stopped by to pick

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00:30:04,300 –> 00:30:06,800
Pick up some papers.
I need help.

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00:30:06,800 –> 00:30:10,300
I told Maria Liana, I’m dying.
I can’t take it anymore.

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00:30:10,700 –> 00:30:13,600
She told me that God loved me
and would not leave me alone.

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00:30:14,000 –> 00:30:16,700
She would help me get away from
prostitution and start a new

488
00:30:16,700 –> 00:30:19,700
life.
A few days later, she brought me

489
00:30:19,700 –> 00:30:22,600
to her home, bruised and
bandaged fresh from the

490
00:30:22,600 –> 00:30:25,200
hospital.
She welcomed me with a huge hug

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00:30:25,200 –> 00:30:29,300
and said you’re safe here Hilda.
She told me Rahab was named for

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00:30:29,300 –> 00:30:32,300
a prostitute in the Bible.
One who became a heroine.

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00:30:32,900 –> 00:30:35,500
I couldn’t believe the Hope on
really Anna’s face.

494
00:30:35,900 –> 00:30:39,600
It felt like a dream.
She gave me a clean bed flowers

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00:30:39,600 –> 00:30:42,800
in the room and a promise that
no man would harass me, she

496
00:30:42,800 –> 00:30:45,900
introduced me to other women who
had left, prostitution, she

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00:30:45,900 –> 00:30:47,300
taught me how to be a real
mother.

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00:30:47,600 –> 00:30:51,200
And now I I am studying a trade
to live for the glory of God.

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00:30:52,100 –> 00:30:55,600
Now some fairly Stark details in
there and I apologize for any

500
00:30:55,600 –> 00:30:58,800
shock they cause, but I think
it’s valuable to consider this

501
00:30:59,000 –> 00:31:02,900
testimony because one thing we
can conclude in opposite to the

502
00:31:02,900 –> 00:31:05,800
first testimony.
The prayer life had been a very

503
00:31:05,800 –> 00:31:09,400
beneficial experience.
What had gone right?

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00:31:10,200 –> 00:31:14,200
Why has God chosen one and
ignored the other or so, it

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00:31:14,200 –> 00:31:17,600
seems Where should we find an
answer?

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00:31:18,200 –> 00:31:21,000
We will find an answer where we
always find an answer.

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00:31:21,300 –> 00:31:23,900
It’s the word of God that will
give us the answer.

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00:31:26,200 –> 00:31:29,600
Luke chapter 15 and will find
that here.

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00:31:29,900 –> 00:31:32,900
Lies a very good key to the
answer and that’s why thank you,

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00:31:32,908 –> 00:31:35,800
brother.
John he read that passage for

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00:31:35,800 –> 00:31:38,800
us.
Luke chapter 15 begins this way.

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00:31:40,500 –> 00:31:42,600
There was a man who had two
sons.

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00:31:42,900 –> 00:31:47,600
The younger one said, father,
give me my share of the estate.

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00:31:47,600 –> 00:31:50,900
We’re going to focus just on
that youngest, son for the

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00:31:50,900 –> 00:31:53,800
purpose of this evening and
we’re going to focus on two

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00:31:53,800 –> 00:31:57,800
prayers.
This is his prayer in a before

517
00:31:57,800 –> 00:31:59,700
State and the other prayer we’re
going to look after.

518
00:31:59,700 –> 00:32:03,200
Look out for is the same man.
Even those a hypothetical

519
00:32:03,200 –> 00:32:06,000
character after his
transformation?

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00:32:08,000 –> 00:32:10,600
When he came to his senses, he
said, father I have sinned

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00:32:10,600 –> 00:32:13,900
against heaven and against you,
I am no longer worthy to be

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00:32:13,900 –> 00:32:18,100
called your son, make me like
one of your hired men and we

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00:32:18,100 –> 00:32:20,000
know the education.
We’re going to get from these

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00:32:20,000 –> 00:32:23,300
words is excellent because they
were never spoken by a fallible

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00:32:23,300 –> 00:32:28,100
human mind rather Jesus crafted
them himself in a parable for

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00:32:28,100 –> 00:32:30,300
us.
Do you see the difference

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00:32:30,300 –> 00:32:33,100
between those two prayers?
Look again.

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00:32:34,300 –> 00:32:37,300
There was a man who had two sons
the younger one said, father,

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00:32:37,900 –> 00:32:40,700
give me.
Let’s just stop there.

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00:32:41,200 –> 00:32:43,800
That’s really all we need.
We just need those three words.

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00:32:44,300 –> 00:32:48,400
Father, give me.
That’s an excellent summary of

532
00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:50,000
that prayer.
What he was asking to be given

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00:32:50,000 –> 00:32:52,000
doesn’t really matter.
We can take the code away.

534
00:32:52,300 –> 00:32:55,900
That was the nature of the
prayer and the second prayer

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00:32:56,300 –> 00:33:01,900
when he came to his senses, he
said, father Make me.

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00:33:03,100 –> 00:33:07,100
Those three words, sufficient I
think therefore we can just drop

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00:33:07,500 –> 00:33:11,900
that quote away to those.
That’s the essence of the two

538
00:33:11,900 –> 00:33:15,100
different prayers.
Jesus is always teaching us

539
00:33:15,100 –> 00:33:17,600
everything.
He says everything he does and

540
00:33:17,600 –> 00:33:21,900
he’s saying there’s a man who
grew up and whilst he was still

541
00:33:22,200 –> 00:33:27,600
immature and spiritually young,
he prayed father, give me but

542
00:33:27,600 –> 00:33:33,600
after he had matured he prayed,
Father Make Me And you’ll notice

543
00:33:33,600 –> 00:33:38,900
the difference about give me and
make me, give me, I don’t have

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00:33:38,900 –> 00:33:42,800
to do anything.
I just sit here and people give

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00:33:42,800 –> 00:33:46,900
me things that’s actually true.
In the dining hall, I’m slow to

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00:33:46,900 –> 00:33:48,300
get up and people bring me
things.

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00:33:48,300 –> 00:33:54,000
It’s wonderful father, give me,
but in the second case, father

548
00:33:54,000 –> 00:33:57,400
make me there has to be giving
from both sides.

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00:33:58,300 –> 00:34:01,600
Because the person who is about
to be made, has to give effort

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00:34:02,200 –> 00:34:05,700
or give up control in order to
be changed.

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00:34:07,100 –> 00:34:10,699
So let’s look at those two
prayers again and realize this

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00:34:10,699 –> 00:34:14,900
may have been the reason of the
difference between them you put

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00:34:14,900 –> 00:34:17,900
up the same words this time.
I’m just going to read the ones

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00:34:17,900 –> 00:34:20,800
that I’ve highlighted in the
yellow typeface.

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00:34:21,300 –> 00:34:25,300
I could list probably 100
prayers, that haven’t been

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00:34:25,300 –> 00:34:27,600
answered.
How do you know they haven’t

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00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:31,500
been answered because it wasn’t
the answer that I wanted.

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00:34:32,300 –> 00:34:34,900
God keep my kids safe.
Keep them away from the wrong

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00:34:34,900 –> 00:34:41,000
prep crowd, I’d guess maybe, 20%
of my prayers, get anything like

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00:34:41,100 –> 00:34:46,000
the answer I want.
So God was never really given a

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00:34:46,000 –> 00:34:48,699
choice.
God was given a set of

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00:34:48,699 –> 00:34:53,800
instructions.
To fulfill a Santa Claus list.

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00:34:54,000 –> 00:34:59,200
Father, give me is the
underlying Spirit of this prayer

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00:34:59,700 –> 00:35:03,900
and perhaps why it was indulged
early on when she was still

565
00:35:03,900 –> 00:35:07,500
young, but as she Grew Older,
her prayer life never actually

566
00:35:07,500 –> 00:35:10,300
matured, and she just became
angry.

567
00:35:10,600 –> 00:35:14,400
That things didn’t happen.
We pray to God sometimes, but

568
00:35:14,400 –> 00:35:18,100
sometimes insist on retaining
control of what the outcome must

569
00:35:18,100 –> 00:35:22,200
look like.
We don’t pray and intangibles

570
00:35:22,200 –> 00:35:23,900
that.
Allow God to work.

571
00:35:24,200 –> 00:35:26,600
We just say God, you need to do.
God, give me.

572
00:35:26,600 –> 00:35:29,900
Let me get that job.
Let me get that job guard.

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00:35:31,000 –> 00:35:34,100
And you don’t get it.
Did he really deny your prayer

574
00:35:34,300 –> 00:35:37,600
or was the prayer not
well-sculpted father, I’m

575
00:35:37,600 –> 00:35:41,100
feeling very insecure about my
financial future.

576
00:35:41,100 –> 00:35:46,200
Please Salve, my insecurities, I
might get a job that gives more

577
00:35:46,200 –> 00:35:48,100
money.
Well, the insecurity may be

578
00:35:48,100 –> 00:35:51,100
taken away, some other means all
prayers.

579
00:35:51,100 –> 00:35:55,100
In this sense, become orders
issued to God for him to perform

580
00:35:55,300 –> 00:35:58,300
father.
Give me this specific thing.

581
00:35:58,600 –> 00:36:02,300
The consequences guard is Just
to a cosmic slave.

582
00:36:03,400 –> 00:36:07,000
He just gets to fulfill the
orders that we send Heaven words

583
00:36:07,600 –> 00:36:11,300
and any contradiction of our
predetermined outcome can induce

584
00:36:11,300 –> 00:36:13,900
a faith crash any horrific
disaster.

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00:36:13,900 –> 00:36:18,000
We may observe in our personal
or broader social life may

586
00:36:18,000 –> 00:36:21,300
suddenly say how can there be a
god when this happens?

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00:36:22,000 –> 00:36:26,400
And in a way that claim is true,
that God is indeed dead.

588
00:36:26,600 –> 00:36:30,400
That God must fail that God
doesn’t exist.

589
00:36:30,400 –> 00:36:34,600
God is not a cosmic slave.
Volta our direction.

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00:36:34,800 –> 00:36:37,500
If we are giving the
instructions of how God must

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00:36:37,500 –> 00:36:42,300
operate, who really is God to
us, It’s us.

592
00:36:44,600 –> 00:36:49,700
Rather Hilda’s prayer.
I got down on my knees beside

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00:36:49,700 –> 00:36:55,600
the bed and plead with God, I
wanted to become a real mother

594
00:36:55,600 –> 00:37:00,800
to my children, how by being
given what she doesn’t specify,

595
00:37:01,300 –> 00:37:05,400
she specifies a Godly goal and
says God, you will know the path

596
00:37:05,400 –> 00:37:08,200
to get there.
And I am open to your

597
00:37:08,200 –> 00:37:11,700
manipulation and control to
arrive at that ends.

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00:37:12,100 –> 00:37:14,200
Meridiana taught me how to be a
real mother.

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00:37:14,400 –> 00:37:18,600
Yeah, and now I am studying a
trade to live for the glory of

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00:37:18,600 –> 00:37:22,400
God.
Father, Make Me is clearly the

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00:37:22,400 –> 00:37:26,900
basis of this young lady’s
prayer and so we’ve seen the

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00:37:26,900 –> 00:37:30,300
tangible results that happen
from a lifetime of Father.

603
00:37:30,300 –> 00:37:35,600
Give me prayers and a lifetime
of Father, Make Me prayers and I

604
00:37:35,600 –> 00:37:38,300
suppose the obvious question
that needs to be asked while we

605
00:37:38,300 –> 00:37:41,400
sit here in potential Judgment
of the lives of others.

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00:37:42,900 –> 00:37:44,900
Which one is my most common
prayer?

607
00:37:46,200 –> 00:37:50,600
Think about the last 12 Pros,
you gave your memories not so

608
00:37:50,600 –> 00:37:52,000
good.
Think about the last three,

609
00:37:53,000 –> 00:37:56,100
which would be the best summary
of those three prayers.

610
00:37:56,600 –> 00:38:00,300
Could you say it was this one?
Or would you say was probably

611
00:38:00,300 –> 00:38:03,400
that one?
Father give me prayers are not

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00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:07,300
Wicked or wrong.
But they are the neophyte level,

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00:38:07,300 –> 00:38:10,000
they are the beginners level of
prayer and perhaps they still

614
00:38:10,000 –> 00:38:13,400
have some place in later life,
but we need to make sure that

615
00:38:13,400 –> 00:38:18,400
our prayer life is maturing from
father give me generically into

616
00:38:18,700 –> 00:38:23,500
father make me it can apply.
Even at that most intimate of

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00:38:23,500 –> 00:38:26,800
times that we shared together as
a community as we pass Bread and

618
00:38:26,800 –> 00:38:29,000
Wine behind and sometimes we use
that time.

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00:38:29,000 –> 00:38:32,400
We don’t have to to think about
the Forgiveness, that that sells

620
00:38:32,400 –> 00:38:37,000
us and joins us in closer, Union
with our After father, give me

621
00:38:37,000 –> 00:38:40,500
this bread.
Father, give me this wine.

622
00:38:41,300 –> 00:38:45,500
Father, give me forgiveness.
Why not all three are freely

623
00:38:45,500 –> 00:38:50,800
given or how about father with
this bread?

624
00:38:51,400 –> 00:38:56,300
And with this wine make me that
better disciple.

625
00:38:56,300 –> 00:39:00,000
I desire to be and yet cannot be
alone.

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00:39:04,200 –> 00:39:08,500
I think the difference between
the dramatic endings of the

627
00:39:08,500 –> 00:39:10,200
father.
Give me prayer in the Father

628
00:39:10,200 –> 00:39:14,700
Make Me prayer come from their
essential basis, that one is

629
00:39:14,700 –> 00:39:18,400
based on entitlement and one in
back is based in Hope.

630
00:39:18,700 –> 00:39:22,000
Look again at the words that
were in the testimony, I’ve got

631
00:39:22,000 –> 00:39:26,000
to say Jesus is story of the
persistent Widow Sowers,

632
00:39:26,500 –> 00:39:29,800
thousands of people pray for a
Christian leader who has cancer

633
00:39:29,800 –> 00:39:33,600
and he dies.
Why does that make you annoyed?

634
00:39:34,500 –> 00:39:37,200
Because I had a right to see him
healed.

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00:39:37,600 –> 00:39:40,900
Didn’t I just pray for it does?
God not here English.

636
00:39:41,100 –> 00:39:47,600
Is he deaf?
I had a right I was entitled to

637
00:39:47,600 –> 00:39:50,900
what I prayed for and if you
have or if you’re entitled to

638
00:39:50,900 –> 00:39:53,500
what you pray for, that’s a bad
start.

639
00:39:53,500 –> 00:39:57,000
But entitlements and hope are
relatively similar things that

640
00:39:57,000 –> 00:40:00,000
they’re massively different in
end result but they can look

641
00:40:00,200 –> 00:40:03,400
similar to start with and it’s
why the confusion can come.

642
00:40:03,700 –> 00:40:07,800
He gave me a vision says held.
I couldn’t believe the Hope on

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00:40:07,800 –> 00:40:11,300
me early on his face better.
Then that our prayers are

644
00:40:11,308 –> 00:40:14,400
grounded in.
Hope we know, A father is a

645
00:40:14,400 –> 00:40:18,000
loving father and whatever
happens will work out for the

646
00:40:18,000 –> 00:40:20,600
best loving care of all
concerned.

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00:40:21,600 –> 00:40:26,600
Entitlements lead to demands.
We have a right to see this man

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00:40:26,600 –> 00:40:30,800
healed.
But hope leads to please

649
00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:35,100
finally, I got down on my knees
beside the bed, and pleaded with

650
00:40:35,100 –> 00:40:39,300
God, I desperately desire to
change.

651
00:40:39,300 –> 00:40:42,800
I acknowledge my inability to
make it happen, myself.

652
00:40:43,500 –> 00:40:49,400
And finally, therefore demands
were not met or if not met will

653
00:40:49,400 –> 00:40:52,700
necessarily lead to bitterness
and anger.

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00:40:53,200 –> 00:40:57,100
I review my prayer journal and
see God, doing less and less.

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00:40:57,600 –> 00:41:02,000
I get angry.
Because why are you angry, my

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demand wasn’t mad.
Why did you have the right to

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make a demand?
Because I was entitled to see my

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prayer answered and this is the
pathway to a very unhappy prayer

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00:41:12,200 –> 00:41:17,300
life that is still the hope that
leads to the plea that can lead

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to Joy and praise and
motivation.

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It felt like a dream.
She says, I am studying a trade

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to live for the glory of God.
Praise of God motivation with

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the Joy in the dream.
These are the natural emotional

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byproducts of going down a
prayer life, founded this way,

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the Father Make Me prayer so we
can see these words of

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scripture.
The Bible isn’t some dead old

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book.
Speaking from thousands of years

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00:41:47,300 –> 00:41:51,200
ago in Easter, tarek terms, it
affects real people’s real

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lives, whether they see it, or
whether they don’t, we could be

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either one of these people.
Do we invite God to be present

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in our lives.
This is a matter very much

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centered in the United States
where I live where it is

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mandatory now that God is
removed.

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Even by reference from
educational and other state and

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federally run establishments for
years, we’ve been telling God to

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get out of our schools, to get
out of our government and to get

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out of our Lives, being the
gentleman that he is.

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I believe that he has calmly
backed out.

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How can we expect God to give
us?

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Us his Blessing and his
protection.

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If we demand that he leave us
alone whilst that’s a good

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comments and excellently
insightful comment on a national

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and social scale.
I wonder to what level is that

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could that also be true in your
life and my life personally

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00:42:47,900 –> 00:42:53,800
have, we invited God to be
present Do we need to invite God

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00:42:53,800 –> 00:42:56,200
to be present?
Isn’t he with us anyway?

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00:42:56,700 –> 00:43:00,400
Ah, you mean, do we have a right
to having God With Us?

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00:43:01,500 –> 00:43:04,000
There’s some very interesting
passages in the scripture.

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That show that God actually
looks for his disciples to

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invite him to be present.
You may not have noticed this

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because I certainly didn’t
notice this.

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But when Israel went out into
the Wilderness under Moses God

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has initially said, I’m not
coming with you to remember that

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I did I miss that – Reid so
fast.

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I just skip right over the top
of it.

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God said, I’ll paraphrase.
You guys are really annoying and

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he Kick me off every five
minutes.

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00:43:36,200 –> 00:43:38,700
I’ll tell you what, if I come
with you, or probably wipe you

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00:43:38,700 –> 00:43:40,700
out.
At some point, I will meet you

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at the promised land off.
You go.

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00:43:44,100 –> 00:43:45,700
Clearly, that’s a bit of a
paraphrase.

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You are a stiff-necked people.
If I were to go with you, even

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for a moment, I might destroy
you.

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00:43:51,700 –> 00:43:54,500
It’s actually pretty accurate to
what was said, so which Moses

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were replied Lord, if your
presence does not go with us.

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Don’t even send us up from here.
How will anyone know that?

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You are pleased with me and with
your people, unless you go with

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us, what else will distinguish
me?

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And your people from all the
other people on the face of the

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Earth.
The Lord said to Moses, I will

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do the Everything you have asked
because I am pleased with you.

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That’s why God was with the
children of Israel.

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In the wilderness.
It actually was the basis of an

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invitation from Moses without
it.

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God wasn’t going to go with
them.

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He was going to meet them at the
Promised Land.

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00:44:34,800 –> 00:44:39,000
God accompanies only when
invited to do so God will do as

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he will.
I’m not trying to say God is

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somehow constrained by our
thoughts.

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If he decides, he will bust into
someone’s life in any such way.

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He, you certainly will take
Pharaoh for example.

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But this is a text that least
says God is looking for us to

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invite him along if we want him
to be present and active in our

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lives.
Guess what?

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Jesus always does the same
thing.

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Jesus is the mirror image of his
father, Perfect Image, and the

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00:45:08,300 –> 00:45:10,300
perfect representation of the
father.

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00:45:10,800 –> 00:45:13,200
As they approached the village
where they were going along the

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00:45:13,200 –> 00:45:18,100
road to Emmaus, Jesus acted as
if he were going farther, but

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they urged him strongly stay
with us for.

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It is nearly evening.
The day is almost over so he

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went in to stay with them.
They invited him and he went in.

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You’ll find the same thing in
John.

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Chapter 6, on the see, that time
that Jesus was walking on the

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water.
Don’t be misled into thinking,

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he was walking towards them to
come into the boat.

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00:45:42,800 –> 00:45:45,700
He was walking towards, he was
walking and he came into their

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00:45:45,700 –> 00:45:51,300
site and was going to go past
them and they called to him and

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00:45:51,300 –> 00:45:54,100
it’s their call that made him
come to them.

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00:45:54,800 –> 00:45:59,500
I believe Jesus operates that
way in your life and in mine, I

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00:45:59,500 –> 00:46:03,900
believe he makes himself.
Clearly visible on the horizon

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00:46:03,900 –> 00:46:09,200
and says, hello.
I’m walking by And then it’s up

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00:46:09,200 –> 00:46:15,200
to us to say wait, no.
Don’t walk by, please.

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00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:19,900
Come in, reside, with me.
And Jesus accepts, invitations

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00:46:19,900 –> 00:46:24,300
to come and reside, have?
I invited Jesus to reside with

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00:46:24,300 –> 00:46:30,200
me Have you?
Has it been a prayer of yours?

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00:46:30,700 –> 00:46:32,500
Is it a constant prayer of
yours?

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00:46:32,700 –> 00:46:36,400
Is it a rare prayer of yours?
Has it ever been a prayer of

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00:46:36,400 –> 00:46:39,500
hours?
And that I think is the

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00:46:39,500 –> 00:46:44,600
education we gained from how to
pray from the Lord Jesus Christ

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00:46:44,600 –> 00:46:49,100
and that wraps up then.
Oh various series on growing

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00:46:49,100 –> 00:46:52,200
closer to God and I thank you
very much for your attention in

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00:46:52,200 –> 00:46:55,200
summary.
Then what did we see Ruth?

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00:46:55,400 –> 00:46:58,500
Gave us this advice, spread your
wings.

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00:46:58,600 –> 00:47:01,600
Meaning provide Mercy, you
spread your wings, you’ll learn

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00:47:01,600 –> 00:47:06,500
to fly closer to heaven.
Jacob said no wrestling.

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00:47:07,200 –> 00:47:10,900
The end never justifies.
The means wait upon the Lord.

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00:47:11,100 –> 00:47:12,800
Took him a whole life to learn
that.

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00:47:13,400 –> 00:47:17,300
John the Baptist told us.
You want to grow closer to God.

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00:47:18,100 –> 00:47:23,900
Take care of the poor, and Jesus
says, pray more invite me to be

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00:47:23,900 –> 00:47:27,400
part of your journey and part of
your discipleship.

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00:47:28,200 –> 00:47:31,800
This is what we’ve learned from
these fascinating, scriptural

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00:47:31,800 –> 00:47:35,700
characters on the topic growing
closer to God.

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00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:52,200
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