This week we are listening to a class called “Devils, Demons & Unclean Spirits” that was givenby Brother Barnaby Harrison (Rugby, UK) last year in 2021.
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Welcome to good for selfie and
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I’m Levi and I’m Chris and I’m
Brian, thank you for joining us
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now let’s talk more about this
week’s talk.
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Welcome to the good
christadelphians talks podcast.
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This is brother Brian.
This week’s talk is a class that
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was given by Brother Barnaby
Harrison of the rugby UK.
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Ecclesia on the subject Devils
demons and unclean spirits.
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The talk is a standalone class
that was either given as an
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evening program or perhaps, as
an hour each lecture.
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And I almost hope that it was
the latter.
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Because it was presented and
delivered, in such a way that it
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breaks down a slightly taboo and
complex subject into something.
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That’s very easy to digest.
Very easy to follow along with
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and really very satisfying to
walk away from having listened
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to.
I would go so far as to say
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that, if, you know, someone who
struggles with why these words
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and this language, this demonic
language, Appears in the Bible,
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if they’re not really what we
make them out to be.
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Then this class would be the one
that I’d suggest, they listen to
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particularly due to the way that
the brother designs the class
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around tracking patterns. and
then breaking down what those
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patterns imply and what the
probable cause of the reference
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to a demon or devil or unclean
or evil spirit is used for
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Admittedly not a subject that I
would pick out for a Monday
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morning pick-me-up, on my
commute to work.
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But nevertheless, this talk is
fantastic.
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Considering the subject
material.
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This does not overload you with
Exposition and the need for
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marking up every reference.
Although I’m sure you will want
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to go back and listen twice with
a pen in hand.
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The brother mentions multiple
times having to cut it short and
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perhaps biting off more than
what time would allow.
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And yes, there is a whole lot
more, that can be covered,
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having studied the concepts
myself, but either way, it is as
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smooth as the other side of the
pillow.
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And my overall Lasting
Impression but just how many
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times I found myself mentioning.
Wow, that was such a cool point.
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So as always, we hope this
strengthens your faith and
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brightens your day for the
Barnaby Harrison.
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Devils demons and unclean
spirits.
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A class this evening assumes
that the first principles
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concerning Devils demons
unclean, spirits Satan Etc are
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already understood and so we
won’t be proving that
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Supernatural powers in
opposition to God don’t exist.
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That’s not our rain this
evening.
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So what is our aim?
Well, our aim is to discover
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within the scriptures guiding
principles which will help us to
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understand why the inspired
records use the Which of Devils
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demons and unclean spirits in
relation to some miracles of
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healing and probably mostly from
now on, I’m going to use the the
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phrase demonic language to cover
the whole of our subject title.
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Otherwise it’s going to get a
little bit rapid repetitious,
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isn’t it Devils?
Demons, unclean, spirits for
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Simplicity.
I’m going to use the label
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demonic language.
So how are we going to do this
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this evening?
Well, I want to kind of divide
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the class into roughly two parts
will be roughly equal length,
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and I hope to goodness of not
bitten off more than I can chew.
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Now, the first part unusually
for me will not turn up many
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scriptures and only on the first
to complain when that’s the case
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but hopefully as I go through,
you’ll see why that’s the case.
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We’re going to keep some pretty
high level.
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We’re going to refer to a number
of scriptures but really it’s
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food for thought and you know,
feel free to make notes and talk
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to you about it afterwards.
If I If I go off piste a little
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so that’s the first part.
We’re going to ask the question,
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why, why is demonic language
used in the gospels?
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And then having drawn out some
principles which are very much
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found in within the scriptures
with I’m going to try and apply
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them to just one miracle that
the record of which uses this
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demonic language and it’s the
record that we just read with
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brother.
Chris, in Mark chapter 1 there
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we just read the section verses
has 14 to 28.
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So that’s what I hope to do.
And then we’ll have a few
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summary points at the end.
So the first part of the
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question is that we’re thinking
about why, why is demonic
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language used in the gospels?
And it is an important question
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and there are several facets to
the, the answers, and there are
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more than one possible answer.
But before we start with those,
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I want to just frame our
thinking I want you to realize
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that if we go through all three
gospels are, all four gospels
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actually, but particularly the
synoptic gospels will find that
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the Demonic language is used in,
in certainly Matthew, Mark and
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Luke, it isn’t specific to just
one record it spans, all three.
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So, that’s the first point I
want you to notice.
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And the second thing I want you
to to, to do, is to imagine
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something for me now, arguably
having a PowerPoint slide or
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something similar.
Would have been useful here.
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But I Haven’t we won’t impact
the reasons why we just haven’t
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got one.
So you’re going to need to
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imagine this table and it’s a
really useful table, okay?
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So can you imagine that you buy,
always scribe it down if you
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look at these, look at something
but just it’s a simple table
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with three columns, okay, on
your first column so your left,
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you’re going to write down what
the miracle was just going to
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note, what is the miracle column
one in the second column, you’re
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going to put is demonic language
used yes or no.
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No, and in the third column
you’re going to say where did
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the miracle take place?
So just imagine that that table
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exists and you’ve then gone
through all of the Gospel
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records and you’ve done that
simple exercise.
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What was the miracle of healing
in particular?
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What was the miracle was
demonic?
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Language used in the record of
the healing and where did that
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Miracle take place?
Where geographically did it take
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place.
Now having done that that
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wonderful analysis And you’ve
got it all bad.
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These would be your results.
Now, you’re going to have to
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believe me.
You have to trust me, but if you
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are in doubt, do the exercise
for yourself.
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Don’t just take my word for it,
but for the purposes of class to
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because it will help us go
through this quickly.
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So, the first of three patterns
that would become evident
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Thomas.
The first pattern is that we
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would note that only sometimes
demonic language is used.
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Sometimes it is definitely not
used and sometimes it is a bit
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ambiguous.
That’s the first pattern.
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The second pattern is that there
is a correlation between the
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type of miracle.
And the use of demonic language.
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So certain types of Miracle
commonly, use demonic language
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or frequently used in manik
language.
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And the third pattern is that
there is a correlation between
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where geographically, the
healing Miracle takes place and
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the use of demonic language.
So, it’s three patterns, I’m
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going to go through each one
now, briefly in turn to unpack
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them in a bit more detail.
So, the pattern the first patent
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was that sometimes given
Language is used sometimes, it’s
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not, sometimes it’s ambiguous.
So let me explain in the healing
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of the man in the synagogue, for
my reading and Mark Warren,
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which is probably still open on
your laps.
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You would agree with me that
demonic language is clearly
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used.
Unequivocally, their the spirit
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of the unclean demon in the loop
record.
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It is a devil.
Okay, so there it is clear, it
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is used but in the healing of
the blind man in Mark 8, the
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language of demons Spirits,
unclean, spirits, Devil’s Etc is
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not used.
So, in Market, when the blind
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man is healed, that language is
not used, but there are other
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Miracles which is not so
straightforward.
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So for example, later on in this
chapter, in mark, one around
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about verse 30, you read of
Simon Peter’s mother,
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Mother-in-law rather his wife
mother who lays sick of a fever.
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And if you read through that
record, it says that The Fever
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left her.
Okay.
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But ambiguous, isn’t it?
And it’s very similar to what’s
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used to the nobleman’s son in
John 4, which is also says that
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The Fever left him.
And this language is ambiguous
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because sorry, the fever is
rebuked in Marquand, the fever
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leaves, the nobleman’s son and
John for this language of being
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Buked or leaving is also applied
to other Miracles that do use
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Devils demons and unclean
spirits.
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Those things are said to have
left the individual or they are
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said to have been rebuked by the
Lord Jesus Christ, so that’s
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what I mean by ambiguous.
It’s not always cut and dry
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whether or not the language is
used.
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So that’s the pattern.
What’s the conclusion of that
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pattern, the first pattern?
Well, I think there are two
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possible conclusions from this
first pattern of evidence.
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Number one, The Inspired records
do not constantly apply demonic
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language to all miracles of
healing.
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Other languages used to easily
describe miracles of healing
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without the need for Language
the gospels.
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Therefore do not rely on demonic
language to convey miracles of
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healing.
That’s an important point.
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I’m going to say it again.
The gospel records, do not rely
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on demonic language to convey
miracles of healing.
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And the second conclusion from
the first pattern is that the
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ambiguous language helps us to
realize that it is synonymous
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with the healing itself, okay?
We can conclude that the use of
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demonic language It is therefore
used symbolically, it helps to
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convey a message over and above
the healing itself.
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So, there are two conclusions
there, which I think are
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helpful, and the second pattern
from this table that you’ve
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done, and you’ve got all this
analysis.
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What was the miracle was demonic
language used?
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And where did the miracle, take
place the second pattern then is
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that you suddenly realize that
there are certain types of
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Miracles that use the Demonic
language quite frequently in.
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Killer demonic language is used
consistently in relation to
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miracles of healing associated
with the brain. and more
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specifically, it’s used with
healings that are associated
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with neurological conditions,
And the and alongside that
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pattern, it’s a sort of the
other side of the coin demonic
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language is rarely if ever used
in relation to miracles of
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healing of other perhaps, we
might say, non neurological
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conditions, other such miracles
of healing that language isn’t
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used.
So for example, the man in the
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synagogue in mark one seems to
have suffered with the symptoms
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commonly associated with
epilepsy.
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He was torn, couldn’t control
himself.
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Epilepsy we think Mark won the
man.
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The Gathering man that’s
recording all three gospels.
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Seems to have suffered with
symptoms of something like a
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multiple personality disorder
and that may or may not have
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been caused by a parasite and we
can speculate and we can be
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interested in the symptoms that
are described and then the dumb
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man in Matthew 9.
Well that man may have suffered
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from any number of neurological
conditions but the one that
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Springs to mind is a stroke,
okay, so those Kind of Miracles,
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those Miracles that are
associated with the brain or
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maladies of the brain, very
commonly very frequently, use
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demonic language.
But other Miracles, like the
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raising of Jairus daughter from
the dead, the man with the
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withered hand, the man born
blind, these Miracles, or they
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don’t use demonic language.
So, that’s the second pattern.
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Okay, there is a correlation
between the type of Miracle of
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healing and whether or not this
language, is You.
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Used and what’s the conclusion
we can draw from that, then?
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Well, I’m going to suggest We
can conclude that demonic
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language is used in relation to
miracles of healing that are
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associated with the brain.
Because the record of these
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Miracles are used to symbolize a
symbolize and to represent
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teaching about the mind, okay?
These miracles of healings that
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are healing neurological
conditions, conditions affecting
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the brain, use demonic language,
Because it is a symbol.
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It is a vehicle by which the
gulf, the inspired word is able
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to convey a teaching that goes
beyond just that person being
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healed, it’s about the Battle
for the mind.
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So, that’s the second pattern on
the third pattern that I think
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emerges from that table, is that
there is a correlation between
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where the miracle takes place.
So, the geographical location
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for the miracle and whether or
not demonic language, is You
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Used now the Miracles of healing
that use demonic language all
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take place in the north of the
land of Israel especially in the
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region of Galilee and in
particular in this city of
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Capernaum.
Now, that’s not to say that all
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miracles, that took place.
In the North of Israel in and
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around, Galilee not all of those
Miracles, use them up in demonic
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language because they do not.
In fact, the raising of gyrus is
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daughter took place in
Capernaum, but as we’ve already
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said demonic language is not
used.
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So it’s not okay.
To draw the conclusion that if
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the miracle happened in in
Galilee, or in and around
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Galilee, they use demonic
language.
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That would be a false
conclusion, okay?
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But there is a correlation
between the two But there is a
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within that correlation still an
important distinction being made
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and I think that distinction is
being made for a reason.
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So what conclusion might we draw
from this third pattern of
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evidence.
Well I think it goes something
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like this.
That demonic language is used in
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relation to some healing
Miracles that take place in the
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north of the land of Israel in
and around Gallery where there
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is a backdrop of Gentile beliefs
associated with Devils demons
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and In spirits beliefs, which if
you were interested, the secular
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sources.
Secular literature shows us that
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those beliefs were Pagan in
origin, And I think that we can
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conclude from this that the
scriptures use and reflect those
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widespread beliefs of the
Gentiles in that region to teach
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Doctrine.
And when we look at the example,
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in Mark 1 in a little while, I
hope to show you that Jesus uses
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this demonic language in this
very Galilee region, to reflect
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these demonic beliefs to teach
Israel and us.
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By extension important lessons
about the need for the true
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worship of the god of Israel.
So, let’s summarize what we’ve
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done in the last 10 minutes or
so.
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I think we’ve established hope,
we’ve established for principles
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and I think they are important
principles.
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The first is that the inspired
scriptures do not always apply
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demonic language to all miracles
of healing.
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Other languages used easily to
describe the Miracles of
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healing.
Without the need for demonic
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language.
The scriptures are not bound by
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the belief of the day, to always
reflect this sense that somebody
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was possessed by a devil demon
or unclean Spirit saying To, to
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convey these miracles of healing
without that language at all.
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So the question is, why does it
use it then and we are
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suggesting.
But whether it leads us to a
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second conclusion, that it’s
their used as a symbol that is a
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level of symbology, that’s used
a vehicle by, which teaching can
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be made in addition to the
healing itself.
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And the third is that The
Ambiguously use of language in
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some cases indicates to us, that
the Demonic language is
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synonymous with the healing
itself.
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We are not to to be led astray
by the scriptures, the
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scriptures don’t confuse us,
they don’t lie to us.
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They are there to show us almost
the synonym, if it describes an
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unclean Spirit or an inkling
devil, Duncan demon.
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And then in, in another light,
it talked about it, being a
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fever, being rebuked or a fever
leaving individual.
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Then really.
It’s just the healing.
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Okay.
It is a Killing of the malady.
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But in one, the frame of
reference of this demonic
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language is used in others.
It is not.
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So it just shows us that it is
still just the healing that’s
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being talked about.
And I think the fourth principle
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is that there is an element of
the way in which the scriptures
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reflect the widespread yet
Regional Gentile false beliefs.
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Again, to teach Doctrine.
So that’s I think a helpful
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starting point.
You’ve done that analysis,
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you’ve gone through and
Whistlestop tour, we’ve drawn
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out some conclusions, and we’re
going to use those conclusions
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to move on to the next stage of
our of our class.
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So we’re still thinking about
this question, aren’t we or why
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why is demonic language used in
the gospels and if we were to
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try and write the answer down, I
think and you were to sort of
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talk to people about this.
There are that I’ve come across
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to commonly held view points in
answer to this question.
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Now, I’m going to tell you
before, I give you the two
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viewpoints, I don’t think either
are right, okay.
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But I want to share them with
you anyway, so that you can go
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with me on this journey.
Of learning.
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Okay, so the first Viewpoint
you, somebody says to you A wise
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demonic language used, you might
hear this answer.
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You’re very likely to hear one
of these two answers.
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The first is that Jesus and the
apostles mention demons, because
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they believe they existed, and
since they were inspired Devils
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demons and unclean.
Spirits are part of the
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supernatural world that you
might be surprised at that one.
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Now I will not going to dwell on
this particular answer for very
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long because Um, it is
problematic when compared to
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many other scriptures.
It’s also a very literal
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aesthetic Viewpoint, which does
not allow for this role of
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symbology within the Miracles,
okay?
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So, but it is a view that’s
held, but the second you may
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well have heard of.
So, the alternative view goes
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along the lines, that Jesus and
the apostles were people of
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their time.
They were people of their day,
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they did not understand.
Perhaps, they could not have
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understood goes, the suggestion
disease and illness in
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scientific terms.
And so they understood these
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things in the concepts that were
familiar to them and that were
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familiar to the people around
them.
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Just think about that one for a
minute.
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Okay, this is held commonly, but
Jesus and the apostles were
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people of their time.
They did not understand and
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perhaps could not have
understood disease and illness
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in It terms that we do today.
And so they understood them in
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Concepts, like, Devils demons
and unclean spirits that were
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familiar to them.
And that was certainly familiar
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to the people around them.
Now, I have to be really clear.
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This view is not in accordance
with our shared understanding of
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the inspiration of scriptures.
God is the author of these
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gospel records and after years
of all the scriptures to Peter
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1000e that holy men of God spake
as they were moved by the Holy
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Spirit.
And we know That the scriptures
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introduced many Concepts and
ideas.
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To those who were inspired with
the words themselves, and these
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Concepts and ideas were,
sometimes not understood by the
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writers themselves.
Okay.
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God.
Gives them Concepts Visions
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prophecies.
That were mind-bending to there
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that they were hard to be
understood. and so he could
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easily have revealed these
things to them in scientific
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terms, but God chose not to
Therefore the idea that
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neurological conditions couldn’t
have been understood by the men
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and women of Christ.
They just doesn’t sit well with
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me brothers and sisters.
We have no evidence that these
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people were primitive.
And it also risks, I think
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taring the Son of God with the
same limited understanding.
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So, having told you the two
views and why I think that they
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are both wrong.
Okay.
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I don’t believe that Jesus or
the apostles believed in Devils
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demons and unclean spirits.
The apostles may have done when
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they were first converted, and
there is evidence, which we
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aren’t going to explore this
evening where it appears to
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develop their understanding.
But I never believe for one
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minute that the Lord Jesus
Christ believed in these things.
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And yet, the fact remains that
he uses these terms in Miracles
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of healing.
So the question Still Remains
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why.
And I think the answer, I think
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the Viewpoint that is correct,
is that there are several
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reasons why demonic language is
used?
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And those three those reasons
are encompassed under three
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broad categories.
Okay?
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I think the reason demonic
language is used is because one
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that was terminology of the day.
It’s just what things are.
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Cool.
There is an element of
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accommodation and we’ll explain
what we mean by that in a
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second.
But more important in all those
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two is symbology that Devils
demons and unclean.
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Spirits are used as symbols in
scripture to make.
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Some really exciting points and
some really exciting teaching.
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So, what do you mean by
terminology?
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Well, terminal?
Just just is a word that says,
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that’s what things are called.
They are the terms.
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And when a condition particular,
medical condition is first Sort
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of encountered or commonly
encountered the name.
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That’s given to it quite often
sticks.
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And there are a few go to
examples of this malaria is the
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one we’re going to think about.
But influenza being influenced
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by the heavenly bodies or the
Stars Dengue fever is another
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example, malaria.
So let’s just unpack that one
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for a second.
It’s from the Latin terms Mal,
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meaning.
Bad or Malla being bad and Aria
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meaning are malaria.
It means bad air and that’s
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because when this, Term was
coined in the mid 19th century.
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The belief was that malaria bad.
Air was the reason why people
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got sick with this particular
condition.
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If to do with the decomposition,
smells and the gases in these
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Masters in the marshes and these
marshes.
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If you live near these marshes,
then you quite often got sick
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with this condition.
It was called malaria, and
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actually we now know that it’s a
parasite carried by mosquito,
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that causes malaria and yet what
do we call it?
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You need to go abroad to an
area.
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That’s got an area.
It is still called malaria, but
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do any of you believe the
condition was caused by bad air.
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Of course you don’t.
You see the point.
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So although these conditions
were said, unclean Spirit devil
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or demon, there is a facet by
which this is just the
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terminology, it’s just what it
was.
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Cool. but can we rightly
conclude that Jesus the apostles
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believed it In the way that we
sometimes talk about it.
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No, I don’t think we certainly
can So that’s terminology the
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second is accommodation.
What do we mean by
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accommodation?
This idea of accommodating
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certain beliefs.
Well, if a person thinks that
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they are possessed by a devil or
demon, it is impossible.
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I suggest to tell them that they
aren’t is sometimes necessary
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for clinicians who deal with
people with patients suffering
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conditions of the Mind.
Take multiple personality
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disorder for example where they
can be any number of
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personalities and they can
change in Split seconds.
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They can be wholly different,
personas in the personas can
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know about each other, they can
be completely different in type
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and character.
And sometimes their clinician is
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to start by saying, well, who am
I dealing with today?
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Who is it?
And I have different names
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sometimes.
Now the clinician needs to
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accommodate that person’s
beliefs and through even to get
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a conversation going.
From which you can then build a
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basis by which you might treat
them and help them contain them.
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Sometimes these things can be
very violent personalities.
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So that’s what we mean by
accommodating in that scenario
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that I’ve just painted the
clinician doesn’t believe in the
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world view of this person that’s
poorly.
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They have to engage with them on
those terms to a certain degree,
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they need to accommodate them to
a certain degree in order to
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communicate with them to help
them to treat them.
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00:26:58,800 –> 00:27:00,500
So the way in which these
miracles of healing are
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recorded, careful reading will
show you that whenever Jesus is
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said to have addressed a devil
or demon the very same verse, or
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00:27:08,200 –> 00:27:10,600
a couple of verses later, it’s
very clear that he’s also
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talking to the individual
themselves.
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00:27:13,400 –> 00:27:16,800
So if I was thought, I was
possessed by a devil or demon,
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00:27:17,200 –> 00:27:19,600
and it’s the devil or demons are
speaking through me, Jesus talks
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00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:22,300
to the devil or demon.
But then, in the next nurse,
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00:27:22,300 –> 00:27:24,000
it’s very clear.
He’s also talking to me as an
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individual.
You see the point, this is what
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we mean by accommodation, there
is an element of this going on
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00:27:29,700 –> 00:27:33,400
in some of the way in which some
of these Miracles are recorded.
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00:27:34,900 –> 00:27:37,300
But we can’t conclude from that
that the Lord Jesus Christ
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00:27:37,300 –> 00:27:40,000
believed in Devils demons are
unclean spirits.
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00:27:40,000 –> 00:27:43,300
That doesn’t make sense.
Now, I think it was also to
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00:27:43,300 –> 00:27:45,900
helpful to think about the way
in which the Prophet Elijah.
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00:27:46,200 –> 00:27:48,800
He’s taunting the children of
Israel are Mount Carmel.
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00:27:48,800 –> 00:27:51,600
Do you remember this?
As a great contest going on
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00:27:51,800 –> 00:27:59,300
between the the prince of devils
they are And the true God and
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00:27:59,300 –> 00:28:02,300
the majority of the people,
there are convinced in the
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00:28:02,300 –> 00:28:04,300
false.
God Baal such that, this is a
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00:28:04,300 –> 00:28:09,400
contest between the two gods.
No contest, we might say.
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00:28:10,800 –> 00:28:13,700
But he says to them, when
they’ve tried all day to get
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bail to respond by fire, Elijah
says to them, or maybe he’s on a
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journey.
Maybe he’s sleepy, he
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00:28:21,900 –> 00:28:25,200
accommodates their worldview,
he’s taunting them.
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00:28:25,200 –> 00:28:29,600
Yes, but he’s trying to also
make them realize the craziness
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00:28:29,600 –> 00:28:32,300
of what they’re doing the
craziness of their own beliefs,
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00:28:32,600 –> 00:28:35,700
but when Elijah uses those
terms, he accommodates their own
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understanding and reflects it
back to them, he’s doing it.
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00:28:39,200 –> 00:28:42,500
Not because he believes These
things, but he’s doing it to
467
00:28:42,500 –> 00:28:45,900
make a broader point, and we
know the outcome of what happens
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on Mount Carmel.
So that’s what we mean by
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accommodation.
It’s allowing for a false
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00:28:51,800 –> 00:28:54,700
understanding, either of the
poorly person themselves either
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00:28:54,700 –> 00:28:56,500
of some of the audience that
were there.
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00:28:56,900 –> 00:29:01,400
But then it’s used as a
springboard to go on to develop
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00:29:01,400 –> 00:29:04,100
teaching and that’s where the
third element comes in.
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00:29:04,100 –> 00:29:06,300
And most important of all three
is symbology.
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00:29:07,000 –> 00:29:09,400
If you doubt anything that I’ve
said that so far, that’s fine,
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00:29:09,700 –> 00:29:12,600
but symbology, Gee, I really
need you to come with me on this
477
00:29:12,600 –> 00:29:14,200
one.
Symbology is so important
478
00:29:14,200 –> 00:29:17,500
because it really does unlock
all of the Miracles of healing
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00:29:17,500 –> 00:29:21,600
that use demonic language Devils
demons and unclean spirits.
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00:29:21,600 –> 00:29:24,200
They are not literal Jesus and
his disciples.
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00:29:24,200 –> 00:29:27,000
I suggested not believe that
they were real but these
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00:29:27,000 –> 00:29:31,300
Miracles are about healing the
poorly brains of people, but
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00:29:31,300 –> 00:29:34,700
they go on and they teach
Doctrine the teachers spiritual
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00:29:34,700 –> 00:29:39,200
lesson about the Battle for the
mind that God is interested in
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00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:42,500
the minds of true.
Pools of Trudy’s of True
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00:29:42,500 –> 00:29:46,500
Believers.
He wants Minds to be focused on
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00:29:46,500 –> 00:29:49,300
him and not on anything else,
not on idolatry.
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00:29:49,800 –> 00:29:52,500
And the language of Devils
demons and unclean, spirits is
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00:29:52,500 –> 00:29:55,800
used in this sense and it’s used
in many times in the Old
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00:29:55,800 –> 00:30:01,800
Testament, to describe idolatry
to describe idol, worship the
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00:30:01,800 –> 00:30:05,400
false gods from the Nations that
were around Israel at the time.
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00:30:06,400 –> 00:30:10,200
And Jesus had the power to cure
these brain conditions.
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00:30:10,400 –> 00:30:13,300
But more than that, the point
that is made by these Miracles
494
00:30:13,300 –> 00:30:16,400
is that he had the words of God,
which would help the people
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00:30:16,400 –> 00:30:18,300
leave their idolatry behind
them.
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00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:25,500
And instead Focus their minds on
Jesus and on the father and when
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00:30:25,500 –> 00:30:27,900
we say symbology, what do we
mean by it?
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00:30:28,200 –> 00:30:29,500
We know what a symbol is, don’t
we?
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00:30:30,500 –> 00:30:33,800
It’s something a word or phrase
that stands for something else.
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00:30:33,800 –> 00:30:39,300
In addition to what it is
usually used for So, sun and
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00:30:39,300 –> 00:30:43,500
moon, they describe the
celestial bodies line turns out
502
00:30:43,500 –> 00:30:45,900
10 in the Bible.
When you read about the Sun and
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00:30:45,900 –> 00:30:48,700
the Moon, you are looking about
the Sun and the Moon that you
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00:30:48,700 –> 00:30:52,600
can see in the daytime, if it’s
not cloudy and in the nighttime,
505
00:30:53,200 –> 00:30:56,100
if it’s not cloudy.
So, the son of the moon, but
506
00:30:56,400 –> 00:30:59,900
sometimes they are used as a
symbol and they are used to
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00:30:59,900 –> 00:31:03,400
represent Powers particularly
ruling powers or ruling
508
00:31:03,400 –> 00:31:10,400
authorities. so, It is a phrase
or a word that has an additional
509
00:31:10,400 –> 00:31:14,300
meaning into what it is usually
understood to be and I think
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00:31:14,300 –> 00:31:16,700
that’s what is going on with
this demonic language.
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00:31:16,700 –> 00:31:18,900
Yes.
Society particularly in the
512
00:31:18,908 –> 00:31:22,200
Gentile region around Galilee,
there is a reflection of these
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00:31:22,200 –> 00:31:26,600
false beliefs but then they are
used as a symbol.
514
00:31:26,600 –> 00:31:30,100
To represent something far more
worrying than a brain condition
515
00:31:30,100 –> 00:31:31,800
that could be healed by the
almighty.
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00:31:32,200 –> 00:31:36,100
The condition of idolatry that
was a pandemic in the nation
517
00:31:36,600 –> 00:31:40,400
that was The mining, the whole
livelihood, and that ultimately
518
00:31:40,400 –> 00:31:43,500
would lead to them being the
natural branches, been broken
519
00:31:43,500 –> 00:31:46,200
off and the Gentiles being
grafted in.
520
00:31:47,000 –> 00:31:51,200
So demonic language, reflects,
both the beliefs of those around
521
00:31:51,200 –> 00:31:54,900
them, as well as symbolizing the
nation of Israel, under the
522
00:31:54,900 –> 00:32:01,000
influence of foreign ideas.
So we’ve covered the first half
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00:32:01,000 –> 00:32:03,200
of the class and I think, if I
check my stopwatch, we’ve done
524
00:32:03,200 –> 00:32:06,200
it in 24 minutes, that’s going
to be a long class.
525
00:32:06,500 –> 00:32:08,300
So we have a shorter second
half, okay?
526
00:32:08,500 –> 00:32:13,200
And if if I get to about 40
minutes or so I’ll just stop Ian
527
00:32:13,200 –> 00:32:16,000
didn’t to worry.
You can have the rest in
528
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:17,800
discussion afterwards if you’re
interested.
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00:32:17,900 –> 00:32:20,200
So we’re not going to go to
Mark, chapter 1 and we’re going
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00:32:20,200 –> 00:32:23,300
to try and see how some of these
things stack up.
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00:32:23,300 –> 00:32:27,200
Okay, so let’s open our bibles
are going to do some filming and
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00:32:27,200 –> 00:32:29,700
I think we’re going to do some
Me just reading out the
533
00:32:29,700 –> 00:32:32,600
references and you listen and
then you can look them up in
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00:32:32,600 –> 00:32:33,500
your own time.
Okay.
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00:32:33,800 –> 00:32:39,000
So Mark, 1 verse 21, we’re told
that on the Sabbath day, Jesus
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00:32:39,000 –> 00:32:42,400
enters into the synagogue and
taught, you know, that and verse
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00:32:42,400 –> 00:32:45,900
22 that the people are
astonished at his Doctrine for,
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00:32:45,900 –> 00:32:47,900
he taught them as one who had
Authority.
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00:32:48,200 –> 00:32:51,500
So, do this miracle begins with
Jesus entering into a synagogue
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00:32:51,700 –> 00:32:55,500
and teaching with authority and
interestingly the teaching is
541
00:32:55,500 –> 00:32:57,300
not described for us.
Okay.
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00:32:58,300 –> 00:33:01,300
But what is described is the
healing of a man, with an
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00:33:01,300 –> 00:33:05,300
unclean Spirit, the man with an
unclean Spirit declares that
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00:33:05,300 –> 00:33:08,500
Jesus is the Holy One Of God,
Jesus, rebukes him.
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00:33:08,800 –> 00:33:10,700
And the unclean Spirit comes out
of the man.
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00:33:11,100 –> 00:33:14,500
And as you might expect, the on
workers are amazed their
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00:33:14,500 –> 00:33:17,400
astonishment.
But somewhat
548
00:33:17,400 –> 00:33:21,800
counter-intuitively, the gospels
emphasize their amazement, not
549
00:33:21,800 –> 00:33:26,100
at the miracle, but at the
doctrine that Jesus taught
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00:33:26,100 –> 00:33:28,100
rather than the miracle that he
carried out, you see that?
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00:33:29,000 –> 00:33:30,600
Verse 22.
They were astonished at his
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00:33:30,600 –> 00:33:34,800
Doctrine for he taught them as
one of the total Authority and
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00:33:34,800 –> 00:33:37,100
in verse 27, at the end of that
Miracle.
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00:33:37,300 –> 00:33:38,800
We’ve got a mirror image.
Haven’t me.
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00:33:39,100 –> 00:33:44,400
They were all amazed. in as much
as they questioned among
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00:33:44,400 –> 00:33:47,000
themselves saying, what new
thing is this what you Doctrine
557
00:33:47,000 –> 00:33:50,600
is this for with authority
commandeth, even the unclean
558
00:33:50,600 –> 00:33:55,700
spirits and they do a baby So
got teaching in a synagogue
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00:33:55,800 –> 00:33:58,900
teaching, not recorded, miracle,
done, miracle done with unclean
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00:33:58,900 –> 00:34:02,700
Spirit.
People are amazed, but they’re
561
00:34:02,708 –> 00:34:04,600
not amazed at the doctor.
They’re not amazed at the
562
00:34:04,600 –> 00:34:06,600
miracle.
They’re amazed at the doctrine
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00:34:06,800 –> 00:34:09,699
because repeated Doctrine
Authority.
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00:34:11,100 –> 00:34:14,300
So there is a real clear pattern
to this miracle, and this is
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00:34:14,300 –> 00:34:16,699
emphasizing the symbology that’s
going to go on here.
566
00:34:17,300 –> 00:34:20,400
The teaching happens within the
miracle of healing itself.
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00:34:21,500 –> 00:34:24,600
So this is a chiastic structure
for those that like finding
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00:34:24,600 –> 00:34:29,100
these in verse 21, we have a
mirror with verse 29.
569
00:34:30,000 –> 00:34:33,000
They go into the synagogue verse
29, they come out of the
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00:34:33,000 –> 00:34:36,699
synagogue in verse 23.
We learned that the man with the
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00:34:36,699 –> 00:34:39,500
unclean Spirit confronts Jesus
and we are told that he cried
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00:34:39,500 –> 00:34:42,500
out and in verse 26, the
counterpart.
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00:34:42,500 –> 00:34:45,199
The unclean Spirit tears.
The man and he cries out with a
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00:34:45,199 –> 00:34:47,699
loud voice.
So we’ve got crying out, we’ve
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00:34:47,699 –> 00:34:51,800
got unclean Spirit, 23 and 26,
and that then leads us to Center
576
00:34:51,800 –> 00:34:54,600
of this miracle, which is also
the center of the chiasm.
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00:34:55,000 –> 00:34:56,800
Let us alone.
What have we to do with thee.
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00:34:56,800 –> 00:34:58,800
Thou Jesus of Nazareth, Art
Thou.
579
00:34:58,800 –> 00:35:02,200
Come to destroy us.
I know that you do art, the Holy
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00:35:02,200 –> 00:35:06,600
One of God and Jesus rebuked him
saying, hold thy peace, and come
581
00:35:06,600 –> 00:35:10,900
out of him.
So, clearly this miracle the way
582
00:35:10,900 –> 00:35:13,100
in which is recorded is really
important, and we have to
583
00:35:13,107 –> 00:35:15,000
remember that as well with
everything else.
584
00:35:15,000 –> 00:35:17,600
We’ve said this evening that
the, the world couldn’t contain
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00:35:17,600 –> 00:35:19,700
the books of everything that
Jesus did.
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00:35:20,100 –> 00:35:22,900
So the Miracles that are
recorded are of particular
587
00:35:22,900 –> 00:35:25,200
interest.
And therefore, the ones that do
588
00:35:25,200 –> 00:35:28,500
use demonic language are another
of level of Interest beyond
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00:35:28,500 –> 00:35:31,600
that, aren’t they?
Why this miracle, why recorded
590
00:35:31,600 –> 00:35:34,000
in this way?
It’s not just okay to say, Well,
591
00:35:34,000 –> 00:35:36,700
it conveys, the general sense
that Jesus could heal people.
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00:35:37,500 –> 00:35:39,500
Well, you could do that.
About this level of detail,
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00:35:39,500 –> 00:35:42,400
brothers and sisters, there must
be more to it than that.
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00:35:42,700 –> 00:35:46,900
So, the way in which it is
recorded is as important as what
595
00:35:46,900 –> 00:35:51,200
is recorded.
So, this miracle put Jesus in
596
00:35:51,200 –> 00:35:54,400
opposition to the man possessed
with an unclean spirit.
597
00:35:54,400 –> 00:35:58,600
And it demonstrates a conflict
between the unclean spirit and
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00:35:58,600 –> 00:36:01,000
Christ.
Okay.
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00:36:01,000 –> 00:36:05,300
Now, you might want to note here
that when you get the parallel
600
00:36:05,300 –> 00:36:08,200
record in, Luke, rather, than
unclean Spirit, we have the word
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00:36:08,200 –> 00:36:10,100
demon.
And that’s why I think we can
602
00:36:10,100 –> 00:36:13,400
use them interchangeably as to
why we have the three turns or
603
00:36:13,400 –> 00:36:17,000
that I have to be another class
or together but there is a
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00:36:17,008 –> 00:36:20,200
degree of it interchangeability.
And I think the reason there are
605
00:36:20,200 –> 00:36:22,900
differences lie in the fact that
there are different symbols
606
00:36:22,900 –> 00:36:26,300
being used and different facets
of idolatry that have been
607
00:36:26,300 –> 00:36:27,100
brought out in the Old
Testament.
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00:36:27,107 –> 00:36:31,500
So let’s just park that for a
moment and let’s think Unclean,
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00:36:32,100 –> 00:36:34,900
unclean spirit is very clear in
mark.
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00:36:34,900 –> 00:36:38,500
One that is what’s described an
unclean spirit.
611
00:36:38,700 –> 00:36:41,800
Uncleanness in the law through,
Moses had set involved several
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00:36:41,800 –> 00:36:45,100
things, you don’t clean animals,
which the Israelites were not
613
00:36:45,107 –> 00:36:46,900
allowed to touch anything.
I did that to make a
614
00:36:46,900 –> 00:36:50,400
sin-offering liberty was five.
They were unclean animals which
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00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:53,400
could not be eaten.
Leviticus 11, the state of
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00:36:53,400 –> 00:36:57,600
leprosy was described as being
unclean, Leviticus 13 and bodily
617
00:36:57,600 –> 00:37:00,300
discharges were also unclean of
it.
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00:37:00,400 –> 00:37:04,100
Because 12 and Leviticus 15.
So the law has a lot to do with
619
00:37:04,100 –> 00:37:06,600
unclean.
It was not a good thing.
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00:37:08,100 –> 00:37:10,900
The general result of
transgressing these laws, meant
621
00:37:10,900 –> 00:37:14,000
that, a person themselves became
styled.
622
00:37:14,200 –> 00:37:18,600
Unclean and action had to be
taken to resolve the situation,
623
00:37:18,800 –> 00:37:21,800
and that usually involved a
period of separation.
624
00:37:22,900 –> 00:37:26,100
And this whole idea of
uncleanness that whole pattern
625
00:37:26,300 –> 00:37:29,200
of what’s in the law.
You become you touch something
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00:37:29,200 –> 00:37:32,500
unclean, you associate with it,
you yourself are unclean, you
627
00:37:32,500 –> 00:37:37,300
have to be separated, this then
becomes a pattern to describe
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00:37:37,600 –> 00:37:40,100
the nature.
Even habitants of the land given
629
00:37:40,100 –> 00:37:43,900
to Israel.
So just listen to Ezra 90k as
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00:37:43,900 –> 00:37:49,400
ra9 the land and to which you go
to possess is an unclean land
631
00:37:49,400 –> 00:37:52,900
with the filthiness of the
people of the lands with their
632
00:37:52,900 –> 00:37:58,300
Abominations which are filled it
from one end to the other with
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00:37:58,300 –> 00:38:02,300
their uncleanness.
So we’ve got the law, we’ve got
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00:38:02,300 –> 00:38:05,500
a pattern of uncleanness and
already that pattern is used
635
00:38:05,500 –> 00:38:09,200
elsewhere in the Old Testament,
to associate it with Gentiles
636
00:38:09,600 –> 00:38:12,400
with their filthiness, with
their uncleanness and in
637
00:38:12,400 –> 00:38:16,800
particular their idolatry, their
Abominations, Ezra 9 verse 11,
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00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:22,400
that was and in Ezekiel 36 we
have a very similar references.
639
00:38:22,400 –> 00:38:25,500
So son of man, when the house of
Israel dwelt in their own land,
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00:38:25,500 –> 00:38:28,500
they defiled, it by their own
way and by their doings their
641
00:38:28,500 –> 00:38:33,000
way was before me as the In the
server removed woman, wherefore
642
00:38:33,000 –> 00:38:35,700
I poured out my Fury, upon them,
for the blood that they have
643
00:38:35,700 –> 00:38:39,300
shed upon their land, and for
their Idols wherewith, they had
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00:38:39,300 –> 00:38:43,600
polluted it as Ezekiel 36 verses
17 and 18.
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00:38:44,400 –> 00:38:49,300
And it goes on to say, in
Ezekiel 36, but having been
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00:38:49,600 –> 00:38:53,900
polluted and having been
unclean, Ezekiel 36 verse 25
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00:38:53,900 –> 00:38:57,100
says, then, I will sprinkle
clean water upon you and you
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00:38:57,100 –> 00:38:59,400
shall be clean from all your
filthiness.
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00:38:59,400 –> 00:39:03,000
And from your, from all your
Your Idols will I cleanse you
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00:39:03,800 –> 00:39:05,800
did?
You see what’s going on here?
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00:39:06,200 –> 00:39:10,300
We’ve got literal uncleanness.
As according to the law, we’ve
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got that being used as a pattern
for what happened to Israel.
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When they came into contact with
these false ideas of the Nations
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around them, they were unclean.
They were filthy, they needed to
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be cleansed from their idolatry.
God promises a faithful Remnant.
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00:39:26,800 –> 00:39:30,000
He would reverse their state of
uncleanness and he would make
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00:39:30,000 –> 00:39:32,800
them clean.
And I Zechariah 13.
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00:39:32,800 –> 00:39:35,300
Let’s just have a look at
Zechariah 13 because this
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00:39:35,300 –> 00:39:38,400
reference is a good.
Go to reference in this subject,
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Zakaria 13, and verse 2.
Talking about the way in which
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00:39:47,000 –> 00:39:50,700
God is going to redeem The
Remnant Zechariah 13 verse 2 and
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00:39:50,707 –> 00:39:52,200
it shall come to pass in that
day.
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00:39:52,200 –> 00:39:55,600
Saith, Yahweh of hosts that I
will cut off the names of the
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idols out of the land and they
shall no more be remembered.
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00:39:59,200 –> 00:40:02,400
And also, I’ll cause the
prophets and the unclean Spirit
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to pass out of the land.
You see that Zechariah 13 and
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verse 2.
And so when we’re thinking about
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00:40:10,300 –> 00:40:13,900
symbology, rather than being
bogged down with what’s going on
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00:40:13,900 –> 00:40:16,700
in mark, one with did, Is
believe an unclean spirits or
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00:40:16,707 –> 00:40:18,600
did you not?
Well, they’re clever enough to
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00:40:18,600 –> 00:40:24,300
understand the science, or
whether or not let’s, Be
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00:40:24,300 –> 00:40:27,500
faithful to the record.
Let’s realize it is teaching
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Doctrine, and that there are
those within the audience of
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Jesus day that understood the
doctrine and they Marvel because
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00:40:35,000 –> 00:40:38,800
he’s teaching with authority and
the unclean spirit that is being
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00:40:38,800 –> 00:40:41,400
styled.
Here is representative of the
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00:40:41,400 –> 00:40:45,800
state of the nation of Israel.
Who were themselves unclean who
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00:40:45,800 –> 00:40:49,700
needed the uncleanness to be
cast out, that they needed the
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00:40:49,700 –> 00:40:53,700
cleaning as it were the
cleansing of almighty God.
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That was possible in his son.
The Lord Jesus Christ and so we
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00:40:59,400 –> 00:41:01,700
are able to comprehend better.
What’s going on in Mark?
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Chapter 1, if we stand too close
to that record, we end up seeing
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00:41:06,500 –> 00:41:08,400
the gospel as a product of its
day.
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00:41:08,600 –> 00:41:13,100
Strange demonic language being
used to describe to us
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00:41:13,100 –> 00:41:16,400
recognizable.
Neurological conditions.
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00:41:17,800 –> 00:41:20,400
Which are to do with some form
of brain impairment of one form
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00:41:20,400 –> 00:41:22,900
or another.
But by stepping back from that
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00:41:22,900 –> 00:41:26,500
very close that narrative and
considering the record in the
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00:41:26,500 –> 00:41:29,500
light of the Canon of scripture,
which God, so, clearly wants us
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00:41:29,500 –> 00:41:31,700
to do time.
And again, comparing spiritual
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00:41:31,700 –> 00:41:34,700
with spiritual.
We see that we begin to see a
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00:41:34,700 –> 00:41:38,300
symbology that goes, well,
beyond the literal explanation
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00:41:38,600 –> 00:41:41,100
of what was wrong with the Pauly
man.
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00:41:41,100 –> 00:41:45,700
And I think my point is simple,
that rather than being caught up
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00:41:45,700 –> 00:41:47,500
in what the condition might have
been, we do that.
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00:41:47,600 –> 00:41:48,900
Don’t tell me.
Who was it?
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00:41:49,000 –> 00:41:51,300
Was it epilepsy?
Or was it, was it something else
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00:41:52,000 –> 00:41:54,800
that brothers and sisters is
not, not the important.
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00:41:55,000 –> 00:41:57,500
It might be interesting.
You know, was the man, the
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00:41:57,508 –> 00:42:00,100
Gathering was he affected by
sisters are kotas?
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00:42:00,100 –> 00:42:03,100
How do you eat them cook?
Pork, was he a sufferer of a
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00:42:03,107 –> 00:42:06,000
parasite?
That’s fascinating, but it’s not
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00:42:06,000 –> 00:42:09,100
the main point.
The main point is the way in
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00:42:09,100 –> 00:42:12,800
which God wants us to realize
that there is a symbology, well,
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00:42:12,800 –> 00:42:17,000
beyond the miracle of healing
itself that it’s to do with the
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00:42:17,600 –> 00:42:21,700
You’ll state of the nation of
Israel and the Healer was was
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00:42:21,700 –> 00:42:24,800
possible to heal these things.
You know, we’re familiar with
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00:42:24,800 –> 00:42:27,000
this concept.
The man, with the withered hand,
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00:42:27,100 –> 00:42:30,300
many of you will know this one,
it’s on a Sabbath day.
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00:42:30,400 –> 00:42:34,000
Is it to do good, or to do evil
to save life or to destroy.
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00:42:34,400 –> 00:42:36,400
And Jesus puts the man in front
of mrs.
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00:42:36,400 –> 00:42:39,100
Stretch forth.
Your hand on the Sabbath day and
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00:42:39,100 –> 00:42:42,200
you go back to Isaiah 58, which
is all about the key principles
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00:42:42,200 –> 00:42:45,000
of the Sabbath.
And how does Isaiah 59 verse 1
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00:42:45,000 –> 00:42:47,500
begin.
Behold yahweh’s hand is not
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00:42:47,500 –> 00:42:51,900
Shortened that it cannot save.
So we’re used to seeing Old
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00:42:51,900 –> 00:42:55,100
Testament principles, being
worked out in the life of the
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00:42:55,100 –> 00:42:55,600
Lord.
Jesus Christ.
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Key principles of Salvation
being brought out in real life.
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00:43:00,800 –> 00:43:04,000
And I think the Miracles of off
healing to do with demonic
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00:43:04,000 –> 00:43:08,000
language are the same.
We are being encouraged by God
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00:43:08,000 –> 00:43:12,400
to go and find this language in
the Old Testament, and to use
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00:43:12,400 –> 00:43:15,000
that as the frame of
understanding, by which we are
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00:43:15,000 –> 00:43:18,800
taught great lessons about the
Battle for In our minds about
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00:43:18,800 –> 00:43:22,200
the need for us not to be
distracted and overwhelmed by as
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00:43:22,200 –> 00:43:25,100
it were power of powers that
have influence over us.
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00:43:25,500 –> 00:43:29,200
But instead to be clear, minded
in our right Minds, it says of
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00:43:29,200 –> 00:43:33,700
the gallery and and and in a
state of mind that is ready to
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00:43:33,700 –> 00:43:38,800
receive the word of God.
Now we have run out of time.
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I had hoped to be able to show
you much more of this language
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00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:48,600
in Mark 1.
In the Old Testament because
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00:43:48,600 –> 00:43:52,200
there is a particular and very
specific typology, which
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00:43:52,200 –> 00:43:54,800
underlies this miracle.
It’s that of Israel being
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00:43:54,800 –> 00:43:59,400
spiritually in Israel, so it’s
spiritually in Egypt.
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00:43:59,700 –> 00:44:03,900
Okay?
So, rather than giving, you all
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00:44:03,900 –> 00:44:07,200
of the types, I’m going to just
pick out one or two, okay?
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00:44:07,700 –> 00:44:10,900
So the man with the unclean
Spirit, the words that he cries
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00:44:10,900 –> 00:44:15,200
are important, is let us alone.
And that’s exactly what the
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00:44:15,200 –> 00:44:16,200
people say.
The Moses.
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00:44:16,400 –> 00:44:20,900
Exodus 40, let us alone that we
may serve the Egyptians.
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00:44:20,900 –> 00:44:22,300
I’ll give you these references
afterwards.
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00:44:22,600 –> 00:44:24,400
I just want to give you a quick
bullet point summary.
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00:44:24,400 –> 00:44:26,300
So you go.
I think you could be on to
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00:44:26,300 –> 00:44:28,400
something there.
Okay, let us alone.
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00:44:28,700 –> 00:44:31,500
Exodus 14, let us alone.
Why that we may serve the
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00:44:31,508 –> 00:44:34,800
Egyptians.
The man also says, I’ll come to
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00:44:34,800 –> 00:44:37,600
destroy us.
That’s in Deuteronomy chapter 1
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00:44:38,100 –> 00:44:40,400
because you always hated us, he
has brought us forth in the land
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00:44:40,400 –> 00:44:44,700
of Egypt to deliver us into the
hand of the amorites to destroy
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00:44:44,700 –> 00:44:46,200
us.
It is word.
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00:44:46,300 –> 00:44:51,400
For word verbatim.
Ezekiel 20 employs the people
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00:44:51,400 –> 00:44:54,300
they had to forsake the idols of
Egypt.
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00:44:55,400 –> 00:45:02,800
And then we’re told that the
Jesus told the the man to hold
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00:45:02,800 –> 00:45:05,400
his peace and that’s exactly the
phrase that’s used of it.
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00:45:05,400 –> 00:45:08,600
In Exodus 14 again, they were
told that they would hold their
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00:45:08,600 –> 00:45:10,600
peace when they saw the
salvation of Yahweh.
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00:45:10,900 –> 00:45:14,700
He says Yahweh shall fight for
you and you shall hold your
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00:45:14,700 –> 00:45:17,700
peace.
We’re told that the people are
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00:45:17,700 –> 00:45:22,200
amazed in Mark 1 and this
amazement is reflected by the
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00:45:22,200 –> 00:45:26,500
amazement of the Nations around.
Israel, when Israel are
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00:45:26,500 –> 00:45:29,800
delivered from Egypt, okay?
So Exodus 15, The Dukes of Edom
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00:45:29,800 –> 00:45:33,700
shall be amazed the Mighty Men
of Moab trembling shall take.
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00:45:33,700 –> 00:45:35,400
Hold on them.
All the inhabitants of Canaan
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00:45:35,400 –> 00:45:38,900
shall melt away.
So I’ve just done a handful of
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00:45:38,900 –> 00:45:42,300
the comparisons but you can see
that every Clause of this
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00:45:42,300 –> 00:45:47,600
record, every phrase is loaded
with, meaning is loaded with
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00:45:47,600 –> 00:45:54,400
Association, it is loaded with
with representation The broad
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00:45:54,400 –> 00:45:57,700
pattern of unclean spirits takes
us to idolatry, but the specific
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00:45:57,700 –> 00:46:02,500
language to gives us a very
particular context about of
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00:46:02,500 –> 00:46:08,300
Israel in Egypt and succumbing
to the idols of Egypt.
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00:46:09,200 –> 00:46:10,400
Well, I’m going to draw a line
under it.
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00:46:10,400 –> 00:46:13,100
There, I hope this class has
been helpful.
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00:46:13,400 –> 00:46:17,800
I realize I have tried to cram
too much into it, but I hope
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00:46:17,800 –> 00:46:20,600
that it’s the principles.
You’ll remember the principles
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00:46:21,000 –> 00:46:23,500
that this is a very carefully
constructed.
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00:46:23,600 –> 00:46:25,800
Could by the almighty God of
heaven.
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00:46:25,800 –> 00:46:31,900
And let’s not presume to limit
the understanding of Our Lord or
778
00:46:31,900 –> 00:46:35,500
the understanding of his
disciples don’t patronize them
779
00:46:35,600 –> 00:46:38,400
by what they could.
Or could not have understood, do
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00:46:38,400 –> 00:46:42,100
not limit the Creator to what he
could convey because of the
781
00:46:42,100 –> 00:46:45,300
limited understanding of a group
of people in a certain region.
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00:46:45,300 –> 00:46:50,200
Instead, let’s see it as
reflecting a belief, but being
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00:46:50,200 –> 00:46:54,200
used to overturn that belief.
And to help the nation.
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00:46:54,800 –> 00:46:57,900
Not just the one man that was
poorly or the one woman that
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00:46:57,900 –> 00:47:01,900
needed help.
But through that healing, the
786
00:47:01,900 –> 00:47:05,200
nation could realize.
Whoa, hang on.
787
00:47:07,400 –> 00:47:11,700
We too can be saved from the
idolatry that is around us.
788
00:47:11,700 –> 00:47:16,300
If only, we will be in our right
minds and ready to come to know
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00:47:16,600 –> 00:47:21,600
the true God and Jesus Christ,
whom he has sent Thanks you.
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00:47:35,300 –> 00:47:37,600
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