043: Ben Brinkerhoff – When You Cannot Bear

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Welcome to the good Christian
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of set the stage for the talk.

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You’re about to hear and now
let’s hear more about this

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week’s talk.
Well, it’s kind of a unique

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thing.
Chris and I are sitting at here

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at Idyllwild.
We were both blessed to be here

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for the week.
So we heard a really good class.

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So we’re doing like a live quick
reaction to the sixth classroom

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been Brinckerhoff series on
unity and Ephesus.

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Yeah.
So yeah all six classes were

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really good the first two we
kind of starts up talking about

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the concept of unity and it’s
one of those ones where you hear

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that the topic and the first
direction is a little bit of a

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where’s where’s the Go with
that, but he did a really really

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amazing job with it.
He started in the beginning

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talking about how God scriptures
don’t teach unity in the sense

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of what we think about it sort
of the worldview of Tolerance.

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But instead really focused on
the concept of unity through

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forbearance or loving each other
to the point of learning and

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coming to some sort of
commonality and learning to

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understand what God’s truth is.
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He makes a couple really good
points.

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I also had the same reaction
like oh no he’s going to whole

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week on Unity.
Like I’m sure he’s going to step

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in trouble areas at some point,
but he never really does which I

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think was really a credit to
him.

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He makes like the he makes a
bunch of good points.

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I think will eventually get to
the whole series.

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I’m assuming putting this series
up because the last three

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classes it was hard to decide
but it was between class 4 5 & 6

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I just didn’t actually hear I
heard glass 4 & 5 were good, but

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I was on baby duty, but I was
able to sit in here and class 6,

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which is what we’re going to
have here on the on the show.

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It was really excellent.
He makes a think here in class 6

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well earlier in the week.
He makes really good point about

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Unity being set on what God’s
truth and What God Says is right

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and that is always the Baseline
and our opinions are kind of our

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opinions.
It is always what God is right

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and it’s up to us to humbly
figure out what that is.

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So yeah, he does a really good
job.

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I think established kind of
setting it does a lot of table

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setting and then I think these
last three classes are really

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when he kind of hits the throws
the punches if you will, so yeah

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what you heard class four and
five Giving you points from

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that.
Yeah.

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I mean, I’ll just kind of
Briefly summarize without going

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into great detail.
I thought what Ben did for this

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class that was really really
well done.

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Is he kind of broke down the
three kind of viewpoints that

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you could approach the concept
of unity from so you have the,

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you know, the judaizers in the
legalistic methodology of where

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you know, if you follow these
rules you will make yourself

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right and using those guidelines
is how you can be righteous with

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God.
He also really a lot of time

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laying the groundwork on the
concept of gnosticism and

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Nicolaitans which were some
different sects that had broken

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off and we’re sort of forming
actually within the Ecclesia and

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Ephesus at the time when Paul
wrote this letter and tied in

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also where John also more than
likely spent some time in

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Ephesus, which he gets into in
this class and how that you

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know, the Gnostic belief was
that you had some sort of

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indwelling of God inside
yourself and that was how you

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determine what was and wasn’t
right and I thought he made a

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really The strong point he makes
it a couple times in all of his

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classes and he recounts that
here that if you come at it from

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the perspective that you love
God and in turn that means that

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you love his Commandments one of
his Commandments is to love each

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other.
So if you are ever at a point

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where you say, I love God, but I
hate you you’re you’re not

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following the commands.
You’re making yourself a

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hypocrite.
I think that was the around pick

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that up.
But that was the Bell to get in

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the next class.
I think I think that was the

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most All part of this class is
that he had set up this idea of

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narcissism was the opponent to
to the fusion Ecclesia and the

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reveal that he has in this six
class that you’ll hear is that

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what gnosticism is missing is
love.

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That’s why I fusions like and
unity is based on love.

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It’s based on love of each other
and like you he makes the point

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about being rival children, you
know, you would never say I’m

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repeating a point you said but
you would never say as a child

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that your brother does not
deserve the love of your

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parents, right, which is what we
do to each other.

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So often in our kind of in are
ecclesial structures, which is

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which is a huge embarrassment
and to uh, so yeah, this was

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this to me I definitely felt he
had built to of this point like,

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oh, here’s the I’m going to
remove the veil the the real

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problem with gnosticism was the
was the complete lack of love as

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an important tenant.
So yeah, this was a really great

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class.
I think it was kind of neat.

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You could really feel in this
series that this is Ben’s home.

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You know, he’s been living in
New Zealand for some time.

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He’s from this area and now he’s
like kind of he has his very

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strong.
Durand kind of emotional

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connection through this series
that I would argue could kind of

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only be done here with two kind
of his home crowd in a way.

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So it was a really special
special group of classes.

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So yeah, I’m excited to share
this one.

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Yeah, I think Ben did a
fantastic job and also because

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he and he shares both in this
class in some of the other ones

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some really personal not
details, but that some very

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personal impact that he’s had
with the concept of unity and

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that actually stuff was going on
with his homework Leisure at the

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time he was Writing these
classes which makes it even more

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powerful to hear his perspective
on it.

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So I thought it was a tremendous
class a really really good.

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Look at what otherwise could be
a really difficult topic to

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approach.
So we’ll turn it over to brother

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Ben for his sixth class on Unity
Ephesus and when you can for

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bear no more good morning, my
beloved brothers and sisters.

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It’s want to give to you.
Thanks on behalf of my wife

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Alyssa.
And my family for your love and

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generosity for your hugs.
For your encouragement as we

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travel through what is really a
complicated and difficult

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subject together.
I’ve remarked to several people

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that this study really helps me
always think that’s the earmark

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of a study worth sharing.
Did it help you?

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Did it change you?
If it did then maybe you ought

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to pass it along and if not,
maybe just keep studying.

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Yeah, as you mentioned in our
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I think Paul dies knowing this
controversy in some of the

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Ecclesia is he established
hadn’t really been resolved.

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Second Timothy contains some
evidence that the problem got

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worse.
In fact, according to tradition

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Nero puts Paul to Death Around
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last time of course that we hear
about the Ephesian Ecclesia.

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We know that it’s mentioned in
Revelation Chapter 2 where it’s

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given a last warning by the Lord
Jesus Christ before we get that

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warning.
Let’s first consider that The

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city of Ephesus like we had
special importance for another

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apostle.
The apostle that wrote

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Revelation.
In fact John now, we’re not told

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anywhere directly in Scripture
that John the Apostle was in

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Ephesus and and that instance
and because that’s true.

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I’m just going to hold out some
evidence that he might have been

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in Evan Ephesus, but I’m not
going to be dogmatic about it

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because if scripture re-up, I
really need to know that I think

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scripture would have told me
right we can sort of think

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that’s reasonable right?
I think that’s reasonable.

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But if Is there helps clarify a
few things?

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So let’s just go through this a
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The most obvious evidence is
probably from Revelation 1 verse

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9 where it says John your
brother and companion and the

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suffering and Kingdom and
patient endurance that are ours

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in Jesus was on the island of
Patmos because of the word of

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God and the testimony of Jesus.
Well the island of Patmos Is is

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a place where Pliny the Roman
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political offenders were often
banished and it just so happens.

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You probably are aware of this
but Patmos.

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Is really close to Ephesus and
it’s not very likely you get

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banished to a place like Patmos
if you’re sitting out over here

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in in Jerusalem or in Israel
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There’s other evidence consider
the fact that in Revelation

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chapters 2 and 3 that they were
a cliche has all over the Roman

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Empire at this time, but we’re
given a letter to the Seven

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equations in we’re in in Asia.
It is not that those were the

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only seven Ecclesia has.
It’s more likely that Jesus

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channeled this message through
John and that John had taken

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some leadership in those seven
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And that’s why Jesus Through
John use those seven occasions

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as a microcosm for the entire
occlusal world as I think most

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of us recognize if we’ve done
that study.

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In my research any of the early
church historians that mention

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John are they all attribute that
he was in Ephesus the this

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includes eusebius, but the
earliest reference would be from

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Iranians and his book against
heresies book 3 chapter 3

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section 4 and he explaining how
the apostles passed their

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teaching on to their heirs.
I radius says this.

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There are also those who heard
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That’s polycarp.
That John the disciple of the

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Lord going to bathe at Ephesus
and perceiving sir in ‘this

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within rushed out of the bath
house without bathing exclaiming

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let us fly less even the
bathhouse fall down because

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Serena’s the enemy of the truth
is within.

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Iranians to live between 125 ad
and 202 ad and so he wrote in

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sort of the late 2nd Century era
but as a young man, he met

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polycarp and polycarp were told
by another story and was a

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disciple of John and polycarp
was the leader of the Collegiate

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in Smyrna as an example and
eusebius says as well polycarp

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was himself martyred.
So so why is this quote

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interesting outside of maybe
giving us a little bit of extra

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biblical evidence that John
might have in fact been or lived

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in the city of Ephesus.
Well, it’s interesting to me

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because you know, I just have
one of those mines aggravatingly

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and I think to myself because
I’m all I’m doing when I’m

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studying.
This guys is I’m just present

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sisters guys.
What am I thinking, you know

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Brethren and sisters.
I’m just thinking I’m getting

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comfortable with you.
Can you tell right?

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I’m thinking who’s the rent this
did anyone else kind of think

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that themselves as they went
through is God.

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Who is this the rent this guy so
I I can call him a guy see that

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so I look him up and this is
what we have to hear about and

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this is from Robert gundry a
survey the New Testament.

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He says for instance Arendt.
This was a gnostic.

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And to summon early Christian
who was prominent as a Harris

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Arc in the view of the early
church fathers.

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He denied that the Supreme God
made the physical world.

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Okay, you may not recognize that
but that immediately says he’s

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thinking about the law along the
lines of Play-Doh.

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Okay, he denied the Supreme God
made the physical world and

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surrender this interpretation.
The Christ came to Jesus who is

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a man born of Joseph and Mary at
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Guided him in his ministry and
left him at his crucifixion.

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Okay, in other words syringe
this taught that Jesus as Christ

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did not come in the flesh.
What did he believe in?

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Well, according to the quote
above strength is taught that

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that Jesus was flesh.
Jesus was flesh, but the Christ

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was spirit.
And that Spirit came on Jesus at

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baptism.
But because the Christ was not

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flesh the Christ could not die.
It left Jesus at his death and

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in Sorrento’s few, by the way.
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Jesus is going Jesus.
The man is going to be

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resurrected with everyone else
on the last day confusing isn’t

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it?
Because we all know this

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completely contradicts the
gospel, but what’s amazing is

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that people even in the Apostle
John’s day were teaching this

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stuff?
This is only what 60 years 50

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years after Christ and already
these views that are so far away

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from Apostolic teaching are
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Now that Doctrine isn’t exactly
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if the legend has some truth to
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here.
This would be a cause for

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disunity and here in the
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We could all agree.
Yet we’re told this about the

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equation Ephesus in Revelation 2
verse 2.

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I Know Thy Works Christ says to
diffusion equation to the angel.

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I Know Thy works and thy Labour
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And how thou canst not bear them
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That was tried them which say
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and found them to be Liars.
Now, I believe that this

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Did you ever consider that?
What clue might we have that to

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be true other than Iranians
record, which was just written

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down fifty or a hundred years
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It’s past tense thou Hast tried
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and are not so on.
What basis did the Ephesian

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leaders try the false Apostles?
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himself living in Ephesus
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trial.
Let me just suggest why that

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might be true.
We look at first John chapter 4

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and verse 1 beloved believe not
every Spirit but try the spirits

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whether they are of God because
many false prophets are gone out

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into the world.
So so that that’s really

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informative.
But let me just line up those

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two verses because seeing them
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probably adds another layer of
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So we have here.
First John four saying believe

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not every Spirit but try the
spirits because many false

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prophets are gone in the world
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Thou Hast tried.
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and are not.
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riding from Ephesus dealing with
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the historical record seems to
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trial and John said this is the
basis of the trial the maybe

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these two things might have
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another.
But I want one what basis did

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John try the false prophets?
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three or three and four, I guess
hereby know we know ye the

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spirit of God every spirit that
confesseth that Jesus Christ is

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come in the flesh is of God.
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that Jesus Christ is not come in
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Is not of God and this is the
spirit of antichrist whereof ye

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have heard that it should come
even now is already in the world

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now.
Okay, what did surrender this

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believe he believed that Jesus
as Christ did not come in the

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flesh rather.
The Christ Spirit came on Jesus

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and baptism and left him a
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So there’s strong reason to
believe that that John came in

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to Ephesus.
And try to eradicate the

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Ecclesia of are giving the
Brethren really simple terms and

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clear Lines by which they could
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And based on Revelation to we
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succeeded by identifying those
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and that were evil.
This is not the only place in

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first John by the way that you
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false teaching of his day recall
the quote from Robert gundry

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syringe this taught that Jesus
was the child of Mary and

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Joseph.
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Christ in a sense with the Son
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So look at what John says in
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Whoever whosoever shall confess
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God dwelt in him and he in God
so is is John making that point

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because he has to not just
because we need to know it

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because it was an issue in his
own time. so why am I making

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these points what’s clear that
there needed to be a delineation

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by which the Brethren could tell
the difference between truth and

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are either you believe that
Jesus was God’s son or not,

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either you believe that he came
in the flesh or you don’t Are we

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fighting for a bit?
One of the things I struggled

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with brother and sisters with
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Is the studies own
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We see an inspired basis for
Unity in the mercy and Oneness

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of God.
We seen exportation for for

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forbearance.
Even after I show you some

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evidence that there’s probably
some things in that Ecclesia

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that were difficult to bear.
Yeah, we see in first Timothy

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that Paul discusses that some of
the leadership of this group had

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been delivered to Satan.
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evidence in Timothy that the
problems getting worse not

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better.
We see the Fulfillment of Paul’s

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prophecy and Acts chapter 20
verse 28 to 30 that there were

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going to be wolves in that
Ecclesia not sparing the flock

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and drawing disciples after
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And now we see a clear
delineation being drawn whether

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someone is with Christ or is
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Now I ask you the question
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What is the right approach to
Unity?

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Okay, you’re confused too.
Alright, it’s good.

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Is it just me or does anyone
else struggle to summarize all

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this?
I think it shows the complexity

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of the subject personally and
why I don’t think we should ever

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subject– Unity to a formula or
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It must be guided by God’s
wisdom and it must be an

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exercise in spiritual and
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Guided by the word of God, which
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Nevertheless does there need to
be clear In and Out Lines today

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like there appeared to be in
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Obviously, the Ecclesia had
reached a point where it was

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necessary to create a fence to
protect the sheep from the

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Wolves the time for forbearance
had come to an end because the

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bond of Peace could not
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a doctrinal are the time for
patience had run out either you

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believe the truth or you do not
you make a decision and you go

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forward now our first principles
are written today in this type

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of clear and delineating
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They’re there to separate truth
from are on some particularly

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controversial points as regards
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Where there’s potential for
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Having such dividing points I
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I think this is the proof.
In Revelation Jesus shows that

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he’s pleased he is pleased by
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and at the Ecclesia no longer
bears with Liars.

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As we wait from sisters for
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We’re going to be faced with
more challenges that will

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wrestle with us and we’ll try
our patients and our lowliness

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and our meekness.
Some challenges will probably

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inevitably require a clear inner
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When this happens we have to
remember that we too are always

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saved by God’s mercy.
We as remember that no legal

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structures will ever save That
God also me is right, even if we

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feel that we’re right.
We must make sure that in and

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out line is consistent with the
whole view of scripture and we

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must ask ourselves.
The question does or does not

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this new joxer and idea being
foisted on the Ecclesia

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contradict the inspired word of
God as defined in this line.

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And yet today brothers sisters
almost all of Christianity.

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Deny that Jesus Christ came in
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The Catholics believe it was
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But they can’t see it.
Couldn’t see the air that was

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going to a rods and John saw it
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So he gave us a basis for truth.
And he showed leadership and he

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provides a line for Unity.
I think the truth is that much

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of First John can be understood.
At least have suggested it

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originally by HP Mansfield and
in white of this Gnostic

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controversy.
I’ll show you a particular

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example because it’s in just its
this example shows a fundamental

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flaw in nasik philosophy that I
want to use to draw agitation

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from later on so the gnostics
believed as we previously

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discussed that that God dwells
within them not figuratively we

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can understand how that works
figuratively.

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But no no, they they believed it
was true literally to the extent

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of believing that their soul was
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So God is literally in them.
Okay to the point where they can

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they can hold it.
That’s a greater Authority than

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the scripture is in terms of
what the will of God actually

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is.
So so God, so John then is going

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to help them to see if this is
really true or if they’re

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deluded.
How do you know if God’s in you?

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Well, John says going to say
This is how you know of God’s in

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you. number one you love others.
Verse 12 if we love one another,

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excuse me in John chapter 4
verse 12 if we love one another

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God dwelleth in us as well as
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So you want to know that God is
in you number one way.

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You’re going to know you’re
going to love one another number

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two.
God’s words and Doctrine with

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and have power in you which is
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So verse 13, hereby.
We know that we dwell in him and

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he in us because he has given us
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You’re going to know if God
really dwelling in you.

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Number 3 verse 15 you have
correct Doctrine who has

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whosoever shall confess that
Jesus is the son of God.

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God dwells in him and he in God,
so if you don’t have correct

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Doctrine then God doesn’t dwell
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Fourth way you dwell in love.
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love dwelleth in God and God in
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So you can see the John’s giving
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You might actually be able to
discern whether or not God is

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dwelling in you.
How can I know how can I know

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the truth of it?
And you can also see.

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That of the Four Points to of
the 4.2 love so this is again.

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I’ve been so I’m just kind of
tracing this out as I’m doing

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this tell you I’m I ask myself
the question.

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I think maybe Dennis has asked
this question as well.

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I haven’t heard his studies
unfortunately, but you ask

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yourself the question.
Well why I love why was love the

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test.
Why was The Well of the test if

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God is dwelling in me or not.
Because more than anything else

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brothers and sisters. the
gnostics valued knowledge not

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love They thought knowledge was
the key to God dwelling in them

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and John disagreed.
John saying in effect God isn’t

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found via some secret knowledge
some Revelation or

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Enlightenment.
God is found in love.

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Because God is love.
In other in other words, the

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thing the gnostics were
searching for was that hidden

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wisdom?
and that thing is love so first

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of all loves stays as a contrast
to enlightenment. as the key

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object of a True Believer
Secondly, those who love God

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will obey God’s commands and the
Nicolaitans famously didn’t

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follow God’s commands.
This is actually pointed out to

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us in Crystal Clear language
because look at first John

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chapter 5 verse 3 for this is
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That we keep his Commandments
and his Commandments are not

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Grievous. love compels us The
keep the Commandments and walk

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in the way that Jesus walk.
Therefore love showed someone if

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God was truly in that person
because if God was in you would

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you act contrary to the will of
God?

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If God and at the will of God is
summarized in his Commandments

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and someone doesn’t follow God
his Commandments.

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Can God really dwell on that
person and could that person

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really love God?
And I got to tell you brothers

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sisters.
It wasn’t only the Apostle John

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that had this particular Point
figured out.

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Do you know who else understood
this?

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the Apostle Paul was turning
back to Ephesians chapter 3

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verses 17 to 18 observe this
This is Paul’s prayer for the

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Ecclesia in Ephesus.
And Paul says that Christ May

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dwell in your hearts by faith.
That being rooted and grounded

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in love in love then you’ll be
able to comprehend with All

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Saints.
What is the breadth?

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What is the length?
What is the height?

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What is the depth?
to know the love of God that

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passeth knowledge Which is
gnosis?

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That ye might be filled with all
the fullness of God.

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You want to be filled with the
fullness of God.

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You need a love that passes.
Knowledge that’s greater than

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knowledge.
So both Paul and John knew

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something really important that
the aim of this false Doctrine

446
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was not love.
Soul of the king the true test

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00:32:49,100 –> 00:32:52,600
for the Gnostic as to whether
God really dwelled in them.

448
00:32:57,000 –> 00:32:59,200
But as love a test for the
gnostics only.

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Is love not a test for those
upholding right Doctrine as

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00:33:05,900 –> 00:33:09,400
well.
You see love unites.

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It has to because the two
greatest Commandments are to

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love the Lord your God with all
your heart soul mind and

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strength and to love your
neighbor as yourself.

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See the excitation of love God
alone.

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It’s that’s not enough because
in the process of loving God, I

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could easily develop a form of
self righteousness.

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I might be so zealous for the
love of God.

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So zealous that I make myself a
judge over other people than

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aren’t loving him enough or
honoring him the way I think he

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00:33:42,300 –> 00:33:46,700
ought to be honored.
So I’ll cede from God his

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00:33:46,700 –> 00:33:49,400
righteousness seed from God his
judgment.

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A place that upon myself and I
as God’s agent will judge you.

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00:33:56,900 –> 00:34:03,600
Because I love God so much.
And so so Christ knew that I

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00:34:03,600 –> 00:34:08,600
have to couple.
The Commandment to love God with

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the Fulfillment of that
commandment and that command is

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then to love you as a result as
the end result of loving God and

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if I haven’t brought myself to
the web of you, I haven’t even

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00:34:21,199 –> 00:34:23,900
understood the first commandment
let alone the second

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commandment.
And that this would be able to

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help us put down a vicious
Pride.

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And then Christ is going to go
and tell us that the definition

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or the example of who the
neighbor is is a Samaritan who

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even in Gospel of John chapter 4
We’re told Samaritans worship

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what they don’t understand.
So love unites us with God, who

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is the commander?
And with others who love at

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God’s command.
The reason I point this out.

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Is although Paul and John
clearly used love to point out

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the flaws in Gnostic thinking.
And we can see that can’t we?

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Hopefully we can But then Jesus.
in speaking to the Elders of the

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Ecclesia in Ephesus After
commending them for not being

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able to bear with the liars.
Tells them they lost their first

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00:35:42,100 –> 00:35:49,000
love.
And you can you get you can sort

483
00:35:49,000 –> 00:35:51,200
of hear the Ephesian leadership
reading this going.

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00:35:51,800 –> 00:35:54,000
Oh, hold on a minute.
Hold on a minute.

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00:35:54,800 –> 00:35:57,600
It’s it’s the rent this it’s the
gnostics.

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00:35:57,800 –> 00:36:01,400
It’s these is these both
Brethren they have a problem

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with love thinking they have
special knowledge and that

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00:36:04,700 –> 00:36:08,300
they’re so important how have I
left my first love?

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00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:15,100
And that brings us to a question
of what’s the first love and

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00:36:15,100 –> 00:36:19,000
I’ve heard many wonderful
expositions on this and and I’m

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00:36:19,000 –> 00:36:22,000
not sure that the way I’ve come
to understand this is the right

492
00:36:22,000 –> 00:36:26,200
way because every time I hear
someone explain this to me, I

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00:36:26,200 –> 00:36:30,600
like their definition, you know,
and I but this is just the way I

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00:36:30,600 –> 00:36:34,100
saw it looking at the lens of
this study if you can just

495
00:36:34,100 –> 00:36:39,900
patiently bear with that.
What might the first love be?

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00:36:43,100 –> 00:36:49,300
Well, I remembered that the test
if the test that Jesus commends

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00:36:49,700 –> 00:36:54,100
the Ephesian leadership for
implementing in Revelation 2 if

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00:36:54,100 –> 00:37:00,900
that test is described.
And first John four then maybe

499
00:37:00,900 –> 00:37:06,000
the spirit is telling me to look
at first John four as a helpful

500
00:37:06,000 –> 00:37:10,800
place to understand this this
many epistle in Revelation to

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00:37:10,800 –> 00:37:14,200
the Ephesian Ecclesia.
And when I look in first John

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00:37:14,200 –> 00:37:18,600
four, I can’t help but see these
words.

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00:37:23,500 –> 00:37:28,400
We love him.
Because he first loved us.

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00:37:29,900 –> 00:37:32,100
If a man say I love God and
hateth his brother.

505
00:37:32,100 –> 00:37:37,800
He is a liar for he that loveth
not his brother whom he has seen

506
00:37:37,900 –> 00:37:41,200
how can you love God whom he has
not seen and this commandment we

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00:37:41,200 –> 00:37:45,000
have from him that he who loveth
God love his brother.

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00:37:45,000 –> 00:37:51,300
Also.
Could it be that our first love

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00:37:56,500 –> 00:37:58,900
Is that which is invoked within
us?

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00:38:00,700 –> 00:38:09,400
when we first contemplated God’s
love when we first truly

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00:38:10,800 –> 00:38:15,300
understood that if that’s true
then what would it mean for an

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00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:19,800
Ecclesia upholding right
Doctrine to leave their first

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00:38:19,800 –> 00:38:25,000
love?
Well, well if we comprehend.

514
00:38:26,100 –> 00:38:28,800
If we comprehend really that God
loved us first.

515
00:38:30,100 –> 00:38:33,900
How would that affect?
our attitude and perspective

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00:38:33,900 –> 00:38:39,700
brothers sisters Well, well, I
can’t I can’t speak for you.

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00:38:43,300 –> 00:38:48,500
But if you truly comprehend it.
Then you would have a really

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00:38:48,500 –> 00:38:56,000
deep sense of gratitude.
They God would love me even me a

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00:38:56,008 –> 00:39:00,700
sinner and call me to something
that I actually genuinely feel

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00:39:00,700 –> 00:39:07,200
as greater than I am.
We would realize that we haven’t

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00:39:07,200 –> 00:39:09,200
earned it.
We have an earned that love we

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00:39:09,207 –> 00:39:14,700
haven’t deserve that love.
It’s the first two of it’s a

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00:39:14,700 –> 00:39:19,500
sort of like the love a parent
has to our newborn child.

524
00:39:20,800 –> 00:39:24,600
The hasn’t done anything to
deserve the affection poured

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00:39:24,600 –> 00:39:27,600
into it.
All it’s done is made my wife

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00:39:27,600 –> 00:39:31,200
not be able to sleep be grumpy
at me all this pain and all this

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00:39:31,200 –> 00:39:35,500
money, right and there it is a
big lump of Flesh.

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00:39:37,400 –> 00:39:42,500
And I love it.
And I’d sacrifice myself for it

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and it’s done nothing for me.
It’s only made my life hard.

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00:39:52,200 –> 00:39:54,500
And I love it.
I love him.

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Now if if you comprehend it and
you are touched with that sort

532
00:40:05,400 –> 00:40:11,700
of love with that sort of Agra
pay. the kindness and the grace

533
00:40:11,900 –> 00:40:16,100
and the mercy that you benefited
from you cannot turn to another

534
00:40:16,100 –> 00:40:24,300
person also in receipt of that
love and say I deserve the love.

535
00:40:26,400 –> 00:40:37,600
But you don’t. or even worse to
say I hate you.

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00:40:41,800 –> 00:40:45,300
Comprehending the first two of
the love you don’t deserve.

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00:40:46,400 –> 00:40:51,000
You simply can’t look to another
one who’s also receipt of it.

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00:40:54,300 –> 00:40:59,500
And hate them you can only ever
feel that way as John tells us

539
00:40:59,500 –> 00:41:02,400
in first John chapter 4.
Listen, you can’t say you love

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00:41:02,400 –> 00:41:04,600
God and hate your brother.
How could you do that?

541
00:41:04,600 –> 00:41:10,000
You could only really do that if
you felt that you’ve earned the

542
00:41:10,000 –> 00:41:17,200
love. and they haven’t that you
deserve the love.

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00:41:21,200 –> 00:41:24,100
With anyone that’s had two
children.

544
00:41:26,900 –> 00:41:29,900
Could the first child say to the
second child?

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00:41:30,300 –> 00:41:33,700
I deserve mommy and daddys love
but you little baby.

546
00:41:33,700 –> 00:41:38,800
You don’t deserve it.
With that even make sense.

547
00:41:44,900 –> 00:41:50,700
The child couldn’t say that.
Because it hasn’t been earned it

548
00:41:50,700 –> 00:41:54,800
isn’t deserved.
So if you’ve left your first

549
00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:58,700
love.
You’ve left the love that God

550
00:41:58,700 –> 00:42:00,400
gave you when you hadn’t earned
a thing.

551
00:42:02,800 –> 00:42:06,100
And you failed the follow your
King’s Command that you love

552
00:42:06,100 –> 00:42:08,700
your brother even as God is love
to you.

553
00:42:09,800 –> 00:42:15,100
So perhaps just perhaps the
first love.

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00:42:18,700 –> 00:42:21,300
That the faithful Brethren
Ephesus who upheld the doctrine

555
00:42:21,300 –> 00:42:27,500
Left Behind was this?
But how would they leave it

556
00:42:27,500 –> 00:42:31,600
behind?
Could it be that first John

557
00:42:31,600 –> 00:42:38,800
chapter 4 was written as John
reflected on what was going on

558
00:42:38,800 –> 00:42:43,700
in his Ecclesia.
That John sits back and says

559
00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:49,000
this is what’s happening in this
Ecclesia that I’m in in Asia.

560
00:42:51,000 –> 00:42:55,900
I’ve just given you a test to
tell whether someone’s inner out

561
00:42:55,900 –> 00:42:58,300
of the Ecclesia.
I’ve just give you the test now,

562
00:42:58,300 –> 00:43:01,200
what’s the danger once I give a
test like that?

563
00:43:01,600 –> 00:43:04,200
What’s the danger wants a test
is lay down.

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00:43:04,200 –> 00:43:07,800
I say I’m on the right side of
the line.

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00:43:09,100 –> 00:43:11,800
What’s the immediate danger
brother sisters?

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00:43:11,900 –> 00:43:17,100
That will happen?
I deserve the love.

567
00:43:19,600 –> 00:43:27,900
You don’t.
So John reflecting on his own

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00:43:27,900 –> 00:43:32,700
Ecclesia has to write these
words and maybe Christ is saying

569
00:43:32,900 –> 00:43:36,800
to that Ecclesia.
You’ve left your first love.

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00:43:38,000 –> 00:43:42,500
You haven’t earned this you
didn’t deserve this and just

571
00:43:42,500 –> 00:43:45,100
because you’ve actually kept the
word pure.

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00:43:50,400 –> 00:43:55,600
It’s not that you know something
special. because as soon as you

573
00:43:55,600 –> 00:44:01,000
think, you know something
special Who you acting alike?

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00:44:03,800 –> 00:44:06,100
You’re now acting like the
people on the other side of the

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00:44:06,100 –> 00:44:18,300
line.
If so, high ironic see love was

576
00:44:18,300 –> 00:44:23,600
what the Gnostic Believers were
missing by aiming for special

577
00:44:23,700 –> 00:44:28,900
Revelation and knowledge, but
maybe love was what the faithful

578
00:44:28,900 –> 00:44:35,900
Brethren had left behind in
proudly believing that they were

579
00:44:35,900 –> 00:44:39,600
better and deserving of the
truth and the false Brethren

580
00:44:39,600 –> 00:44:52,700
weren’t Just maybe. both
gnostics and true brethren

581
00:44:54,200 –> 00:45:05,500
needed to remember love.
Sadly, we know that Pagan

582
00:45:05,500 –> 00:45:10,100
philosophy would overcome the
Ephesian Ecclesia the

583
00:45:10,100 –> 00:45:17,400
Candlestick and that Ecclesia
would burn out. but actually in

584
00:45:17,400 –> 00:45:21,000
the end brethren this Ecclesia
lost the truth.

585
00:45:21,700 –> 00:45:31,400
That’s how the story ends.
But I believe the Ephesian

586
00:45:31,400 –> 00:45:34,200
Ecclesia still instructs us how
to hold onto truth.

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00:45:37,400 –> 00:45:39,600
And hold on to each other in
these last days.

588
00:45:40,700 –> 00:45:44,500
And it’s asked me to remember my
first love and for that I am

589
00:45:44,500 –> 00:46:03,400
incredibly grateful.
As I was writing these studies.

590
00:46:05,400 –> 00:46:14,200
Mike Leisure was torn apart.
Controversy took a United

591
00:46:14,200 –> 00:46:19,800
Ecclesia and made it into two.
I reckon I felt just about every

592
00:46:19,800 –> 00:46:25,800
emotion you can feel in that
process. before the Collision

593
00:46:25,800 –> 00:46:32,300
divided every night I said
Paul’s prayer for Unity found in

594
00:46:32,300 –> 00:46:35,500
Ephesians chapter 3 verses 14 to
21.

595
00:46:36,800 –> 00:46:39,200
I said it so often I practically
memorized it.

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00:46:41,300 –> 00:46:44,900
For this reason, I bow my knees
before the father from whom

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00:46:44,900 –> 00:46:49,400
every family under Heaven is
named and I pray that according

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00:46:49,400 –> 00:46:54,600
to the riches of I Glory.
Now you might Grant my cliche to

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00:46:54,600 –> 00:46:59,600
be strengthened with might
through thy Spirit working in

600
00:46:59,600 –> 00:47:03,300
the Inner Man.
The Christ Jesus would dwell in

601
00:47:03,300 –> 00:47:07,800
our hearts through faith that
being rooted and grounded in

602
00:47:07,800 –> 00:47:11,000
love that we might be able to
understand.

603
00:47:11,000 –> 00:47:14,000
What is the breadth and what is
the length and what is the

604
00:47:14,000 –> 00:47:18,900
height and what is the depth and
to know the love of Christ that

605
00:47:18,900 –> 00:47:23,300
surpasses knowledge and to be
filled with all the fullness of

606
00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:27,200
thee now unto thee who through
the power that is at work within

607
00:47:27,200 –> 00:47:33,100
us is able to do far more than I
ask or I To thee be glory in the

608
00:47:33,100 –> 00:47:37,500
Ecclesia.
And in Christ, Jesus unto all

609
00:47:37,500 –> 00:47:48,300
generations forever and ever.
amen I prayed it over.

610
00:47:49,500 –> 00:47:53,400
And over again.
Because I didn’t feel like I had

611
00:47:53,400 –> 00:47:56,000
the words, you know, like you
you ever feel present systems

612
00:47:56,000 –> 00:47:58,700
like you don’t have the words.
You don’t know what to say to

613
00:47:58,700 –> 00:48:00,800
God.
You don’t know how to articulate

614
00:48:00,800 –> 00:48:02,700
your pain.
You don’t know how to articulate

615
00:48:02,700 –> 00:48:04,800
your problem.
And so you just borrow

616
00:48:04,800 –> 00:48:08,300
scripture.
He say Paul is going to take

617
00:48:08,300 –> 00:48:10,000
this.
This is your prayer Paul.

618
00:48:10,000 –> 00:48:14,300
I know it’s your prayer, but I’m
just well, I’m just going to

619
00:48:14,300 –> 00:48:18,000
borrow it.
And just for for some time this

620
00:48:18,000 –> 00:48:21,600
is going to be my prayer because
I can’t express how I feel.

621
00:48:25,100 –> 00:48:28,500
Then one Friday night on hard
Friday night.

622
00:48:28,500 –> 00:48:37,400
I got a phone call.
Saying that the Ecclesia was

623
00:48:37,400 –> 00:48:42,700
splitting.
What could I do?

624
00:48:47,000 –> 00:48:51,500
What could I pray?
I reflected on these talks.

625
00:48:51,500 –> 00:48:52,900
I had been in the midst of
preparing.

626
00:48:56,700 –> 00:49:00,900
What did I learned?
How do I learn to anything?

627
00:49:03,200 –> 00:49:07,300
was it just was it just
knowledge?

628
00:49:11,100 –> 00:49:16,800
It’s anything different.
And when we are hurt, we have an

629
00:49:16,800 –> 00:49:19,700
instinct to retreat when were
hurt.

630
00:49:19,700 –> 00:49:23,100
We have an instinct to divide
with an instinct to separate.

631
00:49:24,500 –> 00:49:26,800
And something in my heart want
to punish those brothers and

632
00:49:26,800 –> 00:49:32,200
sisters.
Something my heart wanted to be

633
00:49:32,200 –> 00:49:33,900
part from them.
They will be a part for me.

634
00:49:33,900 –> 00:49:35,200
I’m going to be a part from
them.

635
00:49:36,800 –> 00:49:39,400
I felt anger start to swell to
the surface.

636
00:49:46,200 –> 00:49:51,600
Was that the spirit of Paul?
What’s that the spirit of John?

637
00:49:53,600 –> 00:49:58,300
Who are dealing with
controversies in truth much much

638
00:49:58,300 –> 00:50:03,000
much more serious.
Then the controversy we were

639
00:50:03,000 –> 00:50:12,900
doing within our Ecclesia.
I wanted to judge. but brothers

640
00:50:12,900 –> 00:50:17,900
sisters I remembered my first
love.

641
00:50:24,600 –> 00:50:30,700
The same love that God offered
to me when I was helpless.

642
00:50:32,500 –> 00:50:36,300
What’s the same love he was
offering to them?

643
00:50:41,500 –> 00:50:50,200
I to live in Salvation.
So I fell to my knees once more

644
00:50:50,200 –> 00:50:53,300
that night.
And for the first time I changed

645
00:50:53,300 –> 00:50:59,500
a word in that prayer.
And the word I changed was

646
00:50:59,500 –> 00:51:04,600
Ecclesia.
And I changed it to a cliche

647
00:51:04,600 –> 00:51:12,300
cuts.
I prayed for our Ecclesia has.

648
00:51:14,200 –> 00:51:19,200
to have a love that surpasses
knowledge and for God to be

649
00:51:19,200 –> 00:51:27,300
glorified in our equation has
both of them I decided why Paul

650
00:51:27,300 –> 00:51:29,600
I would emphasize what we have
in common.

651
00:51:32,100 –> 00:51:34,500
That I might have opportunity in
time.

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Whilst varying to discuss what’s
not in common.

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I learned this from Paul.
I learned this from John test

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the spirits if it is from God,
it will be motivated by love.

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And we do love very much.
So let me summarize a study that

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for me has defied summary.
God is one.

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Love God.
Obey his truth.

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Follow his commands.
Love the brethren.

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