Darren Tappouras – Class 6: Confidence at His Appearing

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Well, good morning, everyone.
Excellent.

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So the end of the marathon
really, isn’t it?

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The last session of the camp
sort of sad in many ways, but

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I’m happy that my voice is sort
of held out, so that’s been,

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it’s been one.
Good thing.

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I was getting a bit worried
there for a while.

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One of the objectives of our
study together over this week is

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to be is to reconcile a number
of different things that are

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presented to us about the
Judgment seat and to try and

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bring them together in a way
that makes sense of both verses

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even though they might seem this
parrot, initially, we’ve tried

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to reconcile, the idea of a
quick recognition process at the

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Judgment seat with a more
detailed account.

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Both of those Concepts have
scripture behind them and

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Parables to support them.
I’ll try to sort of bring them

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together in a way that that
makes sense of both.

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Other aspects like our reward.
In one instance a reward is all

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equal like illustrating the
parable of the field, the penny

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a day and then there are other
little references in scripture

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and this whole sort of body of
evidence that indicates that our

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reward is proportional.
We’ve tried to reconcile those

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things as well.
Now this morning as a little

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exercise before we move on to
their final session.

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We’re going to try and reconcile
these verses both of them

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written by Paul.
But The surface, they seem to

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contradict each other and yet
they’re really at the very, the

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very heart of understanding.
I believe the whole purpose of

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the Judgment seat in our
salvation and what’s involved

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with it.
So we got these two versus one

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is second Timothy 4.
And it’s a verse.

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We all know this one very well,
where Paul expresses his

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absolute confidence.
There is no doubt, not a scary

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covered out in that verse that
he will be in the kingdom and he

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says, I have fought the good
fight.

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I have finished.
My course, I have kept the

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faith.
Faith henceforth.

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There is laid up for me, a crown
of righteousness.

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So there’s that absolute
confidence there.

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Now, when I asked this at my own
occlusion said, well how do we

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reconcile these verses some of
the Brethren said?

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Well, second Timothy is right at
the end of his life, so that may

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be why he’s so confident there
and not as confident in the

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other one will look at in a
moment.

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But again, that is that really
logical and that’s that really

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explain the disparity sort of
approach.

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The judge was, it is that mean
that at some stage of our life

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we can be absolutely.
In confident in others.

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Not so confident doesn’t really
answer the question and also

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keep in mind that Paul goes
wider than just himself even

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though he might be at the end of
his life, he says he’s

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absolutely confidence in himself
but also it says which the Lord,

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the righteous judge shall give
me at that day and not to me

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only but unto all them that love
his appearing.

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So he broadens that that’s that
confidence level to a whole lot

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of people not just himself, and
the over in First Corinthians

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for which we did touch on a
little bit.

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Yes, They not it.
Not a great deal.

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Paul expresses this reality that
he doesn’t even judge himself.

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He says I don’t even judge
myself.

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He says even though I think like
I think I’ve done the right

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thing, I don’t know any
particular aspect which I’ve

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sort of deliberately done the
wrong thing.

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He says, I’m not even going to
judge myself.

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He says, for I know nothing by
myself, I’m not going to judge

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myself.
And I’m not all my actions in

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life.
I’m not going to justify and say

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that they’re all right, because
I don’t really know the judge

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will do that for me when he
comes.

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And think, well, there he is
standing there in Jeopardy, is

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judgment-seat experience with
one of Jeopardy that he doesn’t

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know the outcome.
He doesn’t know whether he made

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the right decision with John
Mark, when he, when he sort of

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had that fight with Barnabas, he
may be wrong that he doesn’t

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know in these things could
affect his, the outcome of the

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Judgment seat.
We know from Romans 7.

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I ran.
As soon as one of the most

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marvelous and insights into the,
into the mind of a spiritual,

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man, he did things that were
wrong.

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He seemed he says the things
plural.

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Things I do, I don’t want to do
and those things I should do.

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I don’t.
Do we experience, singing

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experienced all those things
that we know about and yet you

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one verse absolute confidence,
the other one, I don’t really

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know until the judge appears.
Now I’m going to throw it open

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to you guys who wants to maybe
suggest how we can reconcile

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those two together and your
ideas.

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The Camp’s got to finish
sometime and my plane doesn’t

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get to be known.
Just doesn’t matter if you’re

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wrong, just a suggestion. think
about what we’ve tried to talk

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about this, this this week, one
of the

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Yes, yes, that’s, that’s that’s
good.

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Let’s go dip.
Yep, that’s on the right track.

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That’s right.
So, when he’s very motives are

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examined, He’s not going to
prejudge those because he’s in

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good conscience.
He’s doing things.

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But the very mode he’s like all
of us and maybe he’s a mixed up

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there out there are things that
will need to be sorted out even

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in Paul’s life.
So that you’re a genius sets

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that you can see the juice that
family is counting that’s

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spot-on, but that you said the
same thing as well, in some

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regards, this is Phase 1.
This is the first stage, this is

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the sheep and the goats
scenario.

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He is absolute confidence will
spawn a look.

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At why he would have that, he
was in Christ that he was, he

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had faith that he believed in
the promises of God.

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He acknowledged, God’s
righteousness.

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He from that, he had absolute
confidence that not just him.

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But all those who, I came and
have that same Outlook will be

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in the Kingdom, so that the
crown of righteousness, the

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immortality that was, that was
almost a given.

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If you, if he, if you’re a, if
you’re a saint, will talk about

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that.
However, the second stage where

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we do give account of our life,
where our motives are opened up

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and the two-edged sword Cuts us
under the Soul, and Spirit right

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into the very marrow and the
intense and thoughts of our

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heart, and the word of the word.
In that case, Jesus himself,

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criticizes and examines those
those in, and Inner workings of

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our mind and I thoughts and that
that bit poor doesn’t know.

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He’s interaction with the.
He’s an amazing currents.

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And those who were speaking
against him and how he’s dealt

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with all that.
He thinks he’s dealt with it

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correctly but as all of us know
in any dispute situation or any

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issues arise in the me we would
like to think we’ve done the

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right thing.
But there’s always niggling

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thoughts and even Paul, I
believe would have felt that.

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So so hopefully there’s
everyone, is everyone agree with

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that.
Sort of not necessarily but see

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what the point of that.
There’s a point.

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Okay, cool.
So that that I think brings our

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studies to an end.
So thanks very much everyone.

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If only your save only, that
would be just a nice if you’d

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shut up.
Now, we’d be all happy.

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So, I suppose that the question
that then arises is a one we

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apply to ourselves.
We think we’ll have.

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You looked at all the things
theoretical about the Judgment

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seat, and it’s sort of, being a
little bit academic and in my

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studies, and comparing things
and looking at Greek.

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Words, you think we’ll how does
it apply to me?

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What’s the likelihood of me
being in the Kingdom?

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Being part of those all those
that Express their by Paul that

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will receive a crown of
righteousness.

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And I suspect that many of us
and I think we already have you

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guys here have sort of had a
pretty similar upbringing to me,

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and I’m pretty, pretty similar
sort of exposure to to the truth

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as I’ve had.
And if that is the case, I’m

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just being General here.
Many of us feel deep down on

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their press, that We find it
hard to use those words in an

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absolute sense about ourselves
that we are going to be in the

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Kingdom.
I remember this is, this is one

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of the seminal little
experiences of my life that sort

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of led me down this road.
There’s been a few and I’ll

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mention some of them as we go.
But one of them was many many

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years ago, and I was young and
skinny, and all that sort of

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stuff.
I was on a committee organizing

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young marrieds week.
I don’t know if you’re any of

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you remember that, and was
pretty.

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It was a pretty unique events
and we got brother.

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Hurry tenant from England.
He never really spoken else or

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our closures over in Sydney
before.

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So we sort of got him to fly
over and delete these studies.

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Because I was always on the
organizing committee, I had the

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privilege of sort of picking him
up at the airport and all sort

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of things and having and sit
around with some others and

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having a discussion with him and
believe it or not, and I’m not

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making this up and see my notes
from my previous talks, he’d

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just been in Perth.
So I’m not having a go at you

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guys, anyway.
It’s just how it all panned out.

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He just been in Perth.
And he was distressed.

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And I saw this visible is
almost, you know, he was getting

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old to sort of shaking and faces
a bit ready and he’s distressed

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about the people he’d spoken to
him, Perth and people who

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confided him, he had a lot of
people talking to him how the

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people he spoke to in Perth did
not think they would be in the

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kingdom, and he was distressed
by that.

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He thought.
And but that’s my reaction.

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I really want to think about
this morning.

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I was distressed that he was
distressed in a way because I

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thought, well, isn’t that?
How we’re supposed to think

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Harry?
You know what?

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Why You?
So cut up about this area, isn’t

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that?
What every righteous person or

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everyone who’s?
Who’s taking the truth?

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Serious should feel and I was, I
was concerned that he was

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concerned.
If you know what I mean.

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I could never heard a sort of
what we might call a senior

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brother or someone who’s a
well-known Expositor of the

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word.
And, and is very well versed in

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the Bible Express things like
that.

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And never never really heard
that expressed all that

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sentiment expressed.
And so it sort of started me

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thinking it was one of the
occasions in my life, where I

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start thinking.
Wow, that’s funny that There are

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people in the Brotherhood who
think that we will be in the

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kingdom, and I think that we
should be confident about that

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and think we shouldn’t shy away
from that.

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So, that was one of my, one of
my little sort of, as I said, a

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little seminal moment that
started me thinking that and

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sort of question said me
questioning my my Outlook We

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asked the question what is the
likelihood of Salvation in the

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the Christian world if you like
in the theological schools that

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make up our the Christian world
around us?

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They probably two Extremes in
this in this question and

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there’s what he’s called The
calvinist View and the Puritan

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View.
And the calvinist view is based

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on this, this extreme doctrine
of election where God picks out

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certain people.
And if you are saved, then you

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were Eyesight on.
If you’ve heard that phrase

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before once saved, always saved.
And he says if you’ve if you

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have accepted Jesus, it doesn’t
have to be a very drawn out

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process.
You just accept Jesus as your

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lord and your savior, you will
be saved eventually, if you make

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wrong paths in your life and go
off the track eventually because

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you’re saved, you’ll be brought
back into the fold at some stage

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in some way and you’ll be saved.
So it’s this you this.

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What’s the actual phrase?
I’m sort of this out.

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Absolute salvation, that’s bill.
Into that that Doctrine, this is

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surance absolute Assurance.
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few will be saved at the end of
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Like, you know, Noah sort of
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that view that no, only eight
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There are only 12 Apostles, you
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few group, a very small group,
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safe.
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like I suppose a lot of cases.
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in the middle of those extremes.
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The us both set the scene for
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this morning, Philippians 2 has
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interplay with the word working
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the Greek.
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So there’s this this aspect we
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salvation.
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that’s it’s really up to me.
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because because so what do we
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pleasure the will and to do of
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you work with God and there’s
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sort of, I feel more.
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in those in those stands as in
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scripture.
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this morning and look at this
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won’t have time to look at a lot
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own Bibles, going to put a lot
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I do apologize about that and
I’m going to talk pretty fast to

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get through it.
I’m sure to try to combine two

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sessions here.
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I do have a paper.
I’ve written on this subject on,

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on this subject a little bit non
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Damien about whether I go and
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out and I’m thinking, well, I
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and those who want it, Eliza
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you want to.
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argument and probably laid out a
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logically then I’ll sort of rub
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So hopefully that might help
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of Salvation is like what I call
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where we are.
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takes us away for judgment, and
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by the way, we look at some of
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little bit about that later on.
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this, this blue line here
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of Salvation, if you’re one of
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children that he will give
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And we say, well, we at baptism,
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time comprehend, that a baptism,
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we sort of, there’s this there’s
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her shoulders that if they
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you know, they were accent or
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we saw it.
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that feeling, but we sort of
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our psyche that we can pop out
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circumstances in our life, we
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of time where we stopped praying
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in outside in our life and we
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readings or we, some of us in a
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stopped going to the meeting
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got issues in our life or
there’s an issue in their

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closure itself and just don’t
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whatever it might be.
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that if we’re going through one
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puts us out of out of the
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the pale of Salvation and we
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life in that state.
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right here and there then we’re
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would be we’d be like One of the
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have any oil.
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time we’re gonners.
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perspective we have.
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readings, and we stopped, you
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it’s all going well for us.
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in our life.
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another period of, you know,
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spiritual and and some of that
is sort of in and out process

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and hopefully towards the end of
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mature, and things start making
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the case and I thought as I got
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hasn’t worked out for me either.
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me.
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spiritual maturity later on but
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baptism to spiritual maturity,
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troughs along the way that
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Now.
I’m going to question that I do

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this morning and this is what
this is really what we’re not

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going to talk about one of the
best things you can ever

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investing is a box set of CDs by
Brother Harry tenant.

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That’s got, I think it’s like
50.

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So yeah, it was a lot of CDs in
it and it’s got all these

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studies.
He’s done all around the world

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and and lectures and it’s, and
I’ve got in my car and I have to

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say, one of the best investments
of I want my life listening to

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brother tenant is very balanced,
and considered approach to

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scripture.
Just you’re so amazing.

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Anyway, I’ve taken a little
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Hebrews here, which talks about
this particular issue and poor

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old Sue’s at the top and up for
me while I dictated it to her

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but here it is.
I read it.

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I know you might not all be able
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says, when it says in Romans 8,
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condemnation to them who are in
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Who walk not after the flesh.
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what it says.
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It means what is shares of you.
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he just It means what it says.
The Lord knows that nobody walks

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perfectly after this after the
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Interesting concept I know that
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and the possibility of the
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wait just a second.
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The bit at the end says those
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only out of condemnation when
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your inclination, we walk after
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you take that like in a literal
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constantly red and green, you
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I’ve got stuff.
Okay, I just so passionate

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about, but you can see what he’s
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that’s the that’s where L works.
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you know, come over and work a
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yell at the kids.
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out I’m gone.
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on or whatever, and It sort of
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He says now, Romans 8 doesn’t
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So there isn’t a charge against
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doesn’t work that way.
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credit method at all.
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Christ Jesus and since Christ is
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not condemned.
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with his terrifying fear.
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on, we’re all aware of the
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Concepts real, this is this is
where we’re going to go this

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morning.
Maybe seems real, we are in

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Christ.
Therefore, there’s no

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condemnation, not, because I’m
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consistently and achieving some
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I’m in Christ.
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not condemned and it really is
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doctrine of the atonement.
No more than that put in simple

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words.
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this a reality?
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Or is it not?
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we got to sort of come to grips
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Now a lot of us are going to
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true.
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that.
But but what about what about?

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And there’s all these verses are
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mind as you’re sitting here now,
and this morning, I look at some

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of those verses as I said, it’s
going to be very quick and just

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going to quickly throw up some
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verses.
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the paper that goes through, any
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other Brethren Etc than you’re,
welcome to get that awful eyes

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or whatever one night when I
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But But for now we’ll just
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through them.
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brother.
Tenants, very nice Exposition on

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it and he focuses on this idea
of being in.

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You are in Christ.
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the very, very Crux of of what’s
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Christ now.
It’s not just brother tenant

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that says this, but there’s many
of our our Brethren written

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about Sort of issue and usually
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of the atonement and God’s
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So it’s written in such a way
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aspect to it that that we find
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you know the best exposition of
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using a rally in the Thomases
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The first developers is real,
there’s a section there called

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the constitution of sin.
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constitution of righteousness
and brother Thomas makes this

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really powerful point.
And he says it’s like in his

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case he flies his own case of
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States, we use moved from
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You’re a citizen of England.
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in America, you get a new
passport, you become a citizen

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of a, of a whole new regime.
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circumstances, all the
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As a citizen, are yours by
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transferred to this new realm if
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picked out a couple of sentences
here says There are two states

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or Kingdoms in God’s
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There are two kingdoms that
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Constitution.
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and the kingdom of God, the
citizens of the former are all

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sinners.
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Saints.
This is getting closer to the

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point.
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transferred our membership with
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another realm.
Now, how do we, how does this

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transfer?
Take place, does it only happen?

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You know, we get baptized and as
I said our first session baptism

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gives you qualifies you to sort
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got to achieve something or

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reach some sort of spiritual
maturity before the transfer

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happens.
Well that’s not the case.

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He says, Mark the sacred style
and description of Sinners, the

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script descriptive of Sinners,
after they’ve been placed on the

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constitution of Israel’s
Commonwealth, which is the

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kingdom of God.
Your that were far off, are made

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nigh by the blood of Christ this
applies to us.

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Now you that through him, you
have access by one Spirit to the

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father and a No More Strangers
and foreigners but

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fellow-citizens with the Saints
and of the household of god,

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fellow heirs and of the same
body partakers of God’s promises

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in Christ by the gospel.
And this is going to be the this

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is the mechanism that this
happens.

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The gospel.
What is Romans 1?

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Tell us about the gospel.
Is the power of God.

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The Juno us.
It’s the power of God unto what

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unto salvation.
It’s the mechanism.

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The gospel is like a power, a
force that that leads us to

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Salvation, And he says, by being
partakers of God’s promises in

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Christ by the gospel.
He says, in this remarkable

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contrast is discoverable a great
change in state and character

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predicted of the same persons.
How is this transformation

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affected?
His question is answered by the

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phrase in Christ.
Just by the gospel and the in

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expresses, the states and the by
the instrumentality, by which

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the state and character changed
in Christ, is the is a weight

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happens by the gospel, is the
instrumentality of that process.

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Now, again, theoretically,
notice we’ve been at many of us

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have done elpis Israel, and
others are all classes and

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marked all these in and looked
it up.

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But I’m trying to get us now to
say, well, if this is real, how

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does it apply to me and is it
real to me?

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And so in that little article,
dr.

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Thomas says this inward is
really the key to it being in

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Christ.
It’s exactly what other tenants

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that as well.
This idea of been in, we are in

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and it’s a little metaphor in a
word picture and a concept that

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runs through scripture.
There’s lots of n examples.

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We could talk about Romans 8,
those that are in Christ.

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Are not condemned.
Genesis 7.

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They went into the ark and by
very virtue of the fact that

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went into that Ark, they were
saved.

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In the Passover story, they had
to stay in the house and that

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house was then protected by the
blood of the Lamb.

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So they’ll in that house and
receive the benefits of being in

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there.
Colossians 1.

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This is this, the an amazing
concept that we sort of can

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glibly read over.
Sometimes that we are now now,

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transferred into.
It says, it says translated in

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May in the authorized.
While the idea we’ve transferred

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into the kingdom of God.
Right now, the king of Exists in

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a particular form and and it’s
an embryonic form, but that is

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the Ecclesia of God, the kingdom
of God in embryo. however, and

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this is where we part company
with the Calvinists You can put

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yourself outside by your
behavior by your actions, by

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deliberate Choice, by accepting
even wrong doctor.

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And you can put yourself outside
that state, and there’s a whole

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lot of out words that appear
right through scripture.

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I’ve just picked a few of them
up here.

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First, John 2 talks about those
who were, who are accepting?

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No would appear.
Greek philosophical Concepts

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into the into their doctrines
that says they went out from us

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because they were not of us,
they put themselves outside,

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some will depart From the faith,
is that we as gives it’s a

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movement word to describe.
They’ve changed their position

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before God.
Some of them could be other

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famous sick.
Quoting Galatians 1.

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It says they, we are removed
from from the truth unto another

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gospel.
The idea of rejecting a heretic

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or a represent, one, who is sort
of left, the truth

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intellectually and doctrinally
again that the idea of moving

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them outside that state is
there, and they’ve departed from

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the Living God by, going back to
Judaism, or going back to going

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relieving the truth and leaving
the principles of the truth.

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So the idea of being In Christ
is a powerful thing and it’s

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efficacious, it’s real, it’s
true, it’s effective in our life

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effective in our in terms of
salvation.

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But then we can put ourselves
outside that by our actions in

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our life.
And this takes us back to the

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idea, introduced on our, I
think, our second session, the

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idea that our names are in the
book of life and that appears

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from all the evidence and the
quotes we looked at to be the

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default setting, when you are
baptized, your name is in the

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book.
Of life.

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That is the default setting.
Yes, your name can be removed

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and there are many examples in
scripture of those whose name

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was removed from The Book of
Life, Judas, is a classic case,

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Judas went out and put himself
outside that that the the

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influence of the light that he
was blessed to have the prodigal

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son.
Goes out the closures in Ephesus

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and later see when we’re moving
in that direction and about to

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be removed.
So there’s this idea of our name

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beating the Book of Life
correlates The idea of being in

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Christ doctrinally been in
Christ by accepting the gospel.

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When you think about it, that
was the basic message of the

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Apostles.
Wasn’t it?

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When the Phillipi Jailer says
sirs, what must I do to be saved

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to be saved?
That was a question I believe on

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Jesus Christ and be baptized you
and your household and you’ll be

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saved.
And that was a, that was a

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simple as it.
Got really not sense.

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Now, this is we’re going to talk
about then.

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The confusion we can have with
being saved by accepting the

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gospel and the demand of
spiritual growth.

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We need to grow spiritually in
Christ.

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And what we’ll talk about those
issues in a moment, in a moment.

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How many of us have this idea?
I’ve tried this graph.

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It here with these squiggly
lines that you know, we at

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conversion or baptism we start
this process and we as I said

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it’s like we’re qualified to be
in the in the race and in our

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life we go through ups and
downs.

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Maybe and we have experiences
and growth and eventually we

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reach this spiritual maturity.
Some called God manifestation or

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whatever you might call it
maturity in Christ, / teleosts

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or the different words in the
Greek, that cover that concept.

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And it’s when we reach this
spiritual maturity, that we are

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in the pale of Salvation, that
we don’t know when we’ll get

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into it.
But eventually we hopefully

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through the grace of God, we
grow in our life and we then end

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up in the, in the pale
salvation.

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Now this this idea.
Seems to have intuitive support

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from quotes.
Like you know James talks about

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faith without works is dead and
it gives the ultimate example of

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Abraham offering Isaac will talk
a little bit about Abraham and

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moment, you think, well, Abraham
reaches this absolute spiritual

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maturity, where he finally gets
to the point where he can take a

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knife and slit the throat of his
own son.

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This is an absolute concrete
maturity that that he got to.

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And at that point it was, you
know, Count on him for

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righteousness, but before that,
he was only learning and

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growing.
That’s not quite that’s not

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quite the spirit description
concept.

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So we want to go from this idea
that we sort of fall in and out

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of Salvation to an idea that I
believe is more scriptural.

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That we are in that at baptism
and during that time we have ups

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and downs in our life when we
grow and we make mistakes and we

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develop and we do achieve God,
willing and our life spiritual

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maturity, but all within the
confines of salvation, And a

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spiritual journey is one of
faith and growth.

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As Romans 1 says, you know from
Faith to Faith from one quality

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of Faith, which might be just a
faith of accepting the truth.

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And being baptized to another
more deeper level of faith.

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That is like, Abraham’s that he
could even offer his own son,

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it’s a journey.
But the journey is done within

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the pale of Salvation, not
dropping in, and out of it.

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And yes, there are Downs in that
process.

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There are times when we make
mistakes times that we regret

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things, we said stands, we might
have even taken in a decade

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previous about an issue that we
really wish we could go back in

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time.
And, and, and heal some things

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we’ve said and done, you know,
these things are part of as I’ve

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read that, I’ve written are from
Hebrews 12.

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The chastisement of the Lord is
Hebrews 12 says God, he’s

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working with his sons and he’s
allowing them to go through

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these problems in some You
bringing these problems

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directly?
It may be and and he’s allowing

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them to experience these things
because they’re all part of the

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growth process.
Like, any Father and Son

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relationship, he’s disciplining
us and putting us through these

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things.
It doesn’t mean that we in these

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low points.
We fail to be his son.

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That doesn’t make sense of the
whole father-son relationships

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because of son goes through a
bad patch.

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Isn’t you’re not my son anymore?
That doesn’t that doesn’t, that

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doesn’t work on any level and it
doesn’t work when it comes to

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Salvation.
Ation.

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However, as we said before, and
I don’t want to trivialize this

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either because this is a very
important point, we can put

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ourselves on a path.
That is downward spiraling

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rather than rather than heading
towards spiritual maturity.

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And they’re at some point in
that process we can make

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shipwreck of our faith.
We can put ourselves outside and

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make ourselves a reprobate or
put ourselves outside God’s pale

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of Salvation.
And and Paul even says that

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there was a reality that he
himself, if he wasn’t careful,

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could put himself outside of
Salvation.

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So that that is a reality as
well.

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Now, we can apply this principle
to many Bible characters.

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In fact, every study you do half
of a few exceptions like Joseph

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and something Daniel Daniel
Jesuit.

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The Rattler Islam have major
flaws purposely presented for us

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that we can, we can look at and
you can apply this graph, too.

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Many people look at the apostles
are the apostles are such a

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stark example.
I find that I find a lot of

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comfort in this example, because
You know, the lofty calling of

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Christ that we are looking at
with joy that the demand on

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Perfection.
That is there is what is so is

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can be daunting really?
And we all fall short of that

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00:33:00,100 –> 00:33:03,500
anything well How does God look
at me?

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00:33:03,500 –> 00:33:05,800
When I’m falling short of that.
I’m not reaching Perfection.

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He says be perfect as my father
is, in heaven is perfect.

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Where do I stand from salvation?
Point of view as I’m trying to

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achieve that.
And the apostles are a classic

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example, you know, look at their
look at their immaturity, in

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those early those early days
with the Lord.

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Now arguing about who was going
to be the greatest.

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It’s almost it’s almost comical
when you read that.

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You do you think you idiots?
You’re reading the reading the

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story.
You idiots.

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What are you what are you doing
that?

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00:33:33,700 –> 00:33:39,200
It’s so immature and and Even
the doctrinal perspective was

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00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:43,100
not quite clear, was that they
didn’t even understand the

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overall message that Jesus had
to actually die and raise again.

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So there’s even those little
shortfalls in that understanding

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even their their courage and
commitment.

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00:33:52,400 –> 00:33:56,000
To Christ was question, they all
fled when he was arrested, Peter

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goes on to deny him even when
the Lord needed them the most.

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They weren’t there for him, even
if they have just, you know,

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just being there at that crucial
time.

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But they all slumbered and slept
Lipton, they really didn’t

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really contribute and help him
in a great deal.

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And often Jesus would say to
them, oh, ye of little faith.

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When they reacted, you know, in
a particular situation, you

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00:34:19,300 –> 00:34:22,300
would look at the reaction with
our scared in the boat, or

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00:34:22,300 –> 00:34:23,900
whatever it is, are ye of little
faith.

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00:34:23,900 –> 00:34:26,900
So, they only had little faith
at that time.

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We ask you a question.
Well, when, when did we need

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salvation?
Kick in, for these men, was it.

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When we read later in the gospel
in In the Epistles, where they

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00:34:38,400 –> 00:34:40,900
reach this spiritual maturity,
where they become pillars in the

647
00:34:40,900 –> 00:34:44,199
Ecclesia, is that when that God
considers them to be in the Book

648
00:34:44,199 –> 00:34:50,000
of Life and the reality is no.
The reality is Jesus considered

649
00:34:50,000 –> 00:34:54,600
them that point to be his
brother, Mother, sister or

650
00:34:54,600 –> 00:34:56,300
brother.
What is it brother twice you?

651
00:34:56,400 –> 00:34:57,500
But you know that what I’m
trying to say.

652
00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:04,300
Well, when he said to them
Rejoice, emotionally respond, to

653
00:35:04,300 –> 00:35:06,100
the fact that your names are
written in heaven.

654
00:35:06,100 –> 00:35:10,200
Right now, I want you to Rejoice
not rejoice that maybe in the

655
00:35:10,200 –> 00:35:13,500
future, you’ll get more maturity
and you’ll be no.

656
00:35:13,500 –> 00:35:15,300
He says, Rejoice, that your
names are written in heaven.

657
00:35:15,300 –> 00:35:18,900
So in a sense, they had shown
the little If they had, they had

658
00:35:18,900 –> 00:35:22,600
followed Jesus, and despite all
of the mistakes, they would all

659
00:35:22,600 –> 00:35:25,700
make particularly, you know,
Peters ones are glary and lift

660
00:35:25,700 –> 00:35:27,100
on record for us for that
reason.

661
00:35:27,400 –> 00:35:32,100
Despite the fact that they would
fail in many ways, they were

662
00:35:32,100 –> 00:35:38,000
still in the pale of salvation I
was still in that that Circle of

663
00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:41,800
Salvation.
Now, not all of them were Judas

664
00:35:42,500 –> 00:35:43,400
went out.
Sorry brother.

665
00:35:44,200 –> 00:35:55,700
Yep.
That’s it.

666
00:35:56,000 –> 00:35:57,100
You want that?
Galatians, 1:6.

667
00:35:57,100 –> 00:36:01,800
One or all?
Okay, I’ve got you have your lip

668
00:36:02,100 –> 00:36:08,800
no problem.
Okay, so the apostles Judas went

669
00:36:08,800 –> 00:36:11,800
out so he was on the journey
with them at one point and then

670
00:36:12,100 –> 00:36:16,700
he makes a decision and many as
many different than men.

671
00:36:16,700 –> 00:36:18,800
Even studies looking at the
motivation of Judas with it was

672
00:36:18,800 –> 00:36:21,500
pure greed as it appears or
whether it disappointment with

673
00:36:21,500 –> 00:36:28,100
the, with the political approach
that Jesus was taking and Etc.

674
00:36:28,100 –> 00:36:31,600
Whether it is a rebuke, he got
from when he sort of talk down

675
00:36:31,600 –> 00:36:34,700
to marry and washing Jesus who
was watching Jesus feet, all,

676
00:36:34,700 –> 00:36:38,700
there’s all these different
reasons, but whatever it was He

677
00:36:38,700 –> 00:36:42,000
made a decision to leave, and he
went out and he puts himself

678
00:36:42,000 –> 00:36:47,000
outside that pail of salvation.
the many of us have grown up on

679
00:36:47,000 –> 00:36:51,200
this, I suppose concept of God
manifest station where young

680
00:36:51,200 –> 00:36:54,800
people and got manifestations,
being a concept that’s been put

681
00:36:54,800 –> 00:36:59,500
before us quite often and And
I’m not saying everyone thinks

682
00:36:59,500 –> 00:37:01,000
this is could be me because I
would be dim.

683
00:37:01,000 –> 00:37:03,900
But the idea I had of God
manifestation was, you know,

684
00:37:03,900 –> 00:37:06,800
you’ve just great on this graph.
Here, you’ve got your faith

685
00:37:06,800 –> 00:37:08,700
levels and you’ve got your time
in the truth.

686
00:37:09,200 –> 00:37:12,500
And as your time in the truth
grows, as you get more knowledge

687
00:37:12,500 –> 00:37:15,700
of God’s word and you, you know,
have more experiences and you

688
00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:19,300
learn more about God and your
relationship with God, grows

689
00:37:19,300 –> 00:37:21,400
that your faith.
Level grows in this sort of

690
00:37:21,600 –> 00:37:23,800
trajectory like we see on this
graph here.

691
00:37:23,800 –> 00:37:26,100
That’s sort of the impression I
sort of had of God

692
00:37:26,100 –> 00:37:28,200
manifestation.
So I was looking forward to when

693
00:37:28,200 –> 00:37:31,900
I Yeah, my mid-40s whatever.
I’d be so, mature and everything

694
00:37:31,900 –> 00:37:34,800
would just sort of clicking the
place and it doesn’t really

695
00:37:34,800 –> 00:37:36,700
happen that way.
And so, if we have that view, we

696
00:37:36,700 –> 00:37:40,300
can feel a bit of a
disappointment when life doesn’t

697
00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:42,000
work that way.
Now, I just want to graph the

698
00:37:42,000 –> 00:37:45,000
life of two people, Peter and,
and Abraham very quickly.

699
00:37:46,000 –> 00:37:48,300
And just show you that God
manifestation doesn’t work on

700
00:37:48,300 –> 00:37:50,600
that trajectory at all, doesn’t
work in that way.

701
00:37:50,800 –> 00:37:53,500
Yes, behind the scenes.
There definitely is a

702
00:37:53,508 –> 00:37:56,300
development taking place, but
it’s not in that sort of

703
00:37:56,700 –> 00:38:00,200
businessmen, like The knowledge
that we fill method that we’re

704
00:38:00,207 –> 00:38:04,300
thinking now look at Peter just
graph his life, there’s this

705
00:38:04,300 –> 00:38:06,500
fake level.
There’s is timing the truth.

706
00:38:07,400 –> 00:38:09,600
Well, you responds to the call
of Christ, so we could say,

707
00:38:09,600 –> 00:38:13,700
well, that’s a demonstration of
Faith, which it was, but then

708
00:38:14,000 –> 00:38:18,000
there’s the many incidences,
like we, Jesus rebukes him for

709
00:38:18,000 –> 00:38:20,900
his attitudes.
And what he’s, what he’s in

710
00:38:20,900 –> 00:38:23,900
statements that he makes and
Jesus depart from me, you know,

711
00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:29,000
he occasionally, walks on the
water you could say, was As a

712
00:38:29,000 –> 00:38:31,000
pinnacle of Faith or he stepped
out of the boat.

713
00:38:31,400 –> 00:38:33,900
Yes, he floundered but at least
he got out of there and sort of

714
00:38:33,908 –> 00:38:37,600
put himself in that environment.
But then he’s later on in that I

715
00:38:37,607 –> 00:38:39,500
think it’s almost the same.
Chapter is all the very accepted

716
00:38:39,500 –> 00:38:43,100
Jesus says, Get Behind Me, Satan
calls him Satan and he said well

717
00:38:43,100 –> 00:38:46,000
there’s a there’s a low point in
Peters life any then he makes

718
00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:48,400
that statement that you know you
are the Christ, the son of the

719
00:38:48,408 –> 00:38:50,900
Living God and Jesus says you
know, this is just an amazing

720
00:38:50,900 –> 00:38:54,200
statement that I’m going to
build my closure on and then he

721
00:38:54,200 –> 00:38:57,300
denies Christ.
You know not not much long after

722
00:38:57,300 –> 00:39:02,400
that and sort of So, a low point
in his life and then, of course

723
00:39:02,400 –> 00:39:04,500
he cut off Malcolm’s is here.
We could, we didn’t even graph

724
00:39:04,500 –> 00:39:07,700
everything in there, and he goes
on, eventually become a pillar

725
00:39:07,700 –> 00:39:11,500
in God’s Ecclesia.
Even as a pillow, though he

726
00:39:11,500 –> 00:39:13,900
still won’t, we still, you know,
they’ll these prejudices and

727
00:39:13,900 –> 00:39:15,900
these things and he had that God
had to work with, you know, the

728
00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:19,000
story of the call Newton for the
Cornelius conversion.

729
00:39:19,000 –> 00:39:21,900
Got it to send the sheet of
animals later on even when he’s

730
00:39:21,900 –> 00:39:25,400
a you know he’s a very respected
brother and a very senior, you

731
00:39:25,400 –> 00:39:27,800
know, and mature brother in the
truth.

732
00:39:28,300 –> 00:39:30,600
Paul has to with standing
face-to-face because of his

733
00:39:30,600 –> 00:39:33,300
attitude.
So you know, you never really

734
00:39:33,600 –> 00:39:35,500
sort of just keep going up and
up and up, and becoming more

735
00:39:35,500 –> 00:39:39,500
perfect in that way.
And so Peters trajectory was not

736
00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:42,900
like that.
It was more like that ups and

737
00:39:42,900 –> 00:39:44,700
downs in his life.
It doesn’t mean that when he hit

738
00:39:44,700 –> 00:39:47,500
a low, he was out of the pale of
Salvation.

739
00:39:48,200 –> 00:39:51,800
It doesn’t mean when he was hit
the high that he was in the pale

740
00:39:51,800 –> 00:39:54,700
and he was fine.
It’s not how God works.

741
00:39:54,800 –> 00:39:57,300
God’s strength.
Is second Corinthians says God’s

742
00:39:57,300 –> 00:39:58,700
strength is made.
Perfect.

743
00:39:58,700 –> 00:40:01,000
In weakness.
It’s actually the process

744
00:40:01,000 –> 00:40:03,900
actually occurs at these lows in
our life.

745
00:40:03,900 –> 00:40:06,500
That’s where God works with us
and that’s something that we’re

746
00:40:06,500 –> 00:40:09,400
going to keep in mind.
In fact, sometimes when the

747
00:40:09,400 –> 00:40:12,500
everything seems to be
successful and good is where

748
00:40:12,500 –> 00:40:16,800
we’re not as spiritual.
As we could be Abraham another

749
00:40:16,800 –> 00:40:20,500
classic case of Faith to Faith
of development of Faith.

750
00:40:21,200 –> 00:40:23,400
He leaves earn, you know, rides
in shechem.

751
00:40:23,500 –> 00:40:27,300
That’s an upper in his life.
For example of Faith, you know,

752
00:40:27,300 –> 00:40:32,200
it’s a it really crosses.
Euphrates, Etc.

753
00:40:32,200 –> 00:40:36,200
He becomes a Hebrew.
But then it’s virtually the very

754
00:40:36,200 –> 00:40:40,100
next chapter chapter 12, he goes
down into Egypt, he’s fearful

755
00:40:40,100 –> 00:40:41,700
for his life is worried that
there is going to kill.

756
00:40:41,700 –> 00:40:45,100
Him takes are off in this, array
of him, makes up these little

757
00:40:45,100 –> 00:40:47,400
half Li half-truth thing and
gets himself.

758
00:40:47,600 –> 00:40:51,300
You know, we’re a Web of Lies
that sort of has him trapped in

759
00:40:51,300 –> 00:40:53,100
an eventual.
He’s only God’s intervention

760
00:40:53,100 –> 00:40:56,800
that saves him from that point
and it’s it’s at these low

761
00:40:56,800 –> 00:40:58,900
points.
I believe rain Abraham’s faith

762
00:40:58,900 –> 00:41:01,400
is really developed the Abraham
in Genesis 22.

763
00:41:02,400 –> 00:41:06,500
Does not happen by Magic the
eggs Genesis 22 comes because of

764
00:41:06,600 –> 00:41:09,900
the Abraham in Chapter 13.
It’s all part of the same.

765
00:41:10,000 –> 00:41:13,000
Same story, isn’t it?
Doesn’t mean what he was in

766
00:41:13,000 –> 00:41:16,400
Egypt that God said well, well
well if the angel comes back now

767
00:41:16,400 –> 00:41:17,500
you’re not in the Kingdom at
all.

768
00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:21,600
He rescues like the space that’s
an upper, the story of Hagar,

769
00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:23,200
some people interpret it
slightly different.

770
00:41:23,200 –> 00:41:26,100
But I see it as a down point
where he’s trying to he’s trying

771
00:41:26,100 –> 00:41:29,700
to bring about the Fulfillment
of the promises, his own way

772
00:41:31,200 –> 00:41:34,000
later on the Promises of renewed
to him and so there’s a sort of

773
00:41:34,900 –> 00:41:36,900
an upper Faith upper in his
life.

774
00:41:37,800 –> 00:41:40,100
Story of gear on, with the bema
lake, seems to be a down where

775
00:41:40,100 –> 00:41:42,900
you repeat the exact same
problem back here in Egypt,

776
00:41:43,300 –> 00:41:46,400
sacrifice of Isaac.
Of course, he’s up again and

777
00:41:46,400 –> 00:41:50,500
again Abraham’s Faith was not
this getting better and better

778
00:41:50,500 –> 00:41:53,200
and better all the time, like
some sort of, you know, athlete

779
00:41:53,200 –> 00:41:55,700
is just continually training in
that sense.

780
00:41:56,600 –> 00:41:59,800
God’s strength is not developed
like an athlete in that sense.

781
00:42:00,300 –> 00:42:02,500
Yes, is an undeveloped
underlying development taking

782
00:42:02,500 –> 00:42:05,300
place, but the the development
of Abraham went like that.

783
00:42:05,900 –> 00:42:08,700
And when Abraham was laying on
his My stomach in front of

784
00:42:08,700 –> 00:42:12,100
pharaoh laying there on the cold
marble floor, his bowels, you

785
00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:14,300
know, just about to gush in his
teeth chattering.

786
00:42:14,300 –> 00:42:17,900
And one of these is going to be
impaled or that’s when God’s

787
00:42:17,900 –> 00:42:19,700
faith.
That’s when let’s learn God’s

788
00:42:19,700 –> 00:42:22,300
strength was working in here.
Maybe a low Point like that.

789
00:42:23,700 –> 00:42:25,800
And that, as I said, he’s part
of the whole process.

790
00:42:28,100 –> 00:42:31,400
One of the one of the it
seriously.

791
00:42:32,700 –> 00:42:37,600
One of my objectives, my
practical objectives from these

792
00:42:37,600 –> 00:42:41,100
studies is almost identical to
Jonah’s in a way and it’s

793
00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:43,800
interesting how there’s two
studies will see come together

794
00:42:43,800 –> 00:42:47,900
in that way.
John official is beautiful study

795
00:42:47,900 –> 00:42:51,400
yesterday with the two houses
and and the saying that let’s

796
00:42:51,400 –> 00:42:56,800
build our house on, on the Rock,
The Words of Christ that that we

797
00:42:56,800 –> 00:43:00,400
can withstand the winds and the
storms and the trials, and the

798
00:43:00,408 –> 00:43:02,300
problems that come upon us and
just just hang in there.

799
00:43:02,500 –> 00:43:05,300
Hanging on the words of Christ
hanging on the Rock and build a

800
00:43:05,308 –> 00:43:08,500
life on that.
And in a sense I believe that’s

801
00:43:08,500 –> 00:43:14,400
the real message and my take
home message, is the words are

802
00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:16,300
slightly different.
The concepts are saying he that

803
00:43:16,300 –> 00:43:19,400
endures to the end will be
saved.

804
00:43:19,400 –> 00:43:23,400
That’s my message viewing do it
to the end, you will be saved.

805
00:43:23,800 –> 00:43:27,300
And I believe a lot of The
Parables we sort of missed that

806
00:43:27,300 –> 00:43:31,600
concept looking Maybe.
To intricately at other aspects

807
00:43:31,600 –> 00:43:34,300
of The Parables of Miss.
This is overwhelming idea that

808
00:43:34,600 –> 00:43:38,700
it’s remaining in Christ.
That really is what our

809
00:43:38,700 –> 00:43:41,300
Salvation is dependent on.
And we were in Christ or when

810
00:43:41,300 –> 00:43:44,300
we’re staying within the
confines of the Ecclesia.

811
00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:47,000
If you want to use that term,
all the the truth, or within the

812
00:43:47,008 –> 00:43:51,400
confines of God’s word, God can
work with us and the Spiritual

813
00:43:51,400 –> 00:43:54,500
Development can take place if
we, if we stay there and we

814
00:43:54,508 –> 00:43:58,400
don’t depart And that’s that’s
that’s really the power, I think

815
00:43:58,400 –> 00:44:00,300
of these things.
Now, we haven’t got time to

816
00:44:00,300 –> 00:44:03,200
dwell on this into much detail,
but the one of the, one of the

817
00:44:03,200 –> 00:44:06,600
interesting Parables is the
parable of the ten virgins.

818
00:44:06,600 –> 00:44:10,600
Five wise for our foolish, many
of us I think pick up this

819
00:44:10,600 –> 00:44:14,300
concept through Sunday school
that you know we can’t we come

820
00:44:14,300 –> 00:44:16,800
to Bible schools, we could go to
the meeting and we get the oil

821
00:44:17,100 –> 00:44:19,900
levels increased and then if we
don’t do the readings and we

822
00:44:19,900 –> 00:44:23,700
sort of don’t go to bible class
little oil goes down and

823
00:44:23,700 –> 00:44:27,000
hopefully we got enough oil in
the tank when Christ returns at

824
00:44:27,300 –> 00:44:28,700
that, he looks at the oil
levels.

825
00:44:28,800 –> 00:44:31,500
Maybe drops one of those oil
indicators in the see, what will

826
00:44:31,500 –> 00:44:33,000
ever wear got whether we’re
saved or not.

827
00:44:33,000 –> 00:44:38,200
That’s sort of a, you know, a
concept that that some of us

828
00:44:38,200 –> 00:44:41,300
think.
Now, this one present a slightly

829
00:44:41,300 –> 00:44:42,600
different way of looking at
that.

830
00:44:42,600 –> 00:44:46,400
Parable you may not agree with
this particular in your first

831
00:44:46,400 –> 00:44:50,100
view of it and that’s fair
enough and it won’t really

832
00:44:50,100 –> 00:44:55,600
change the overall theme of our
study but I believe it’s

833
00:44:55,600 –> 00:44:58,400
tapping.
NG into the whole purpose of God

834
00:44:58,400 –> 00:45:01,900
in our life.
The context of these Parables,

835
00:45:01,900 –> 00:45:04,300
not just the Matthew Parables,
but the the similar parables are

836
00:45:04,300 –> 00:45:07,700
given in Luke.
The context is, it says he added

837
00:45:07,700 –> 00:45:10,800
and spake, a parable, because he
was nitrogen Jerusalem, and

838
00:45:10,800 –> 00:45:15,600
because they thought the kingdom
of God should immediately appear

839
00:45:15,700 –> 00:45:18,300
now.
This is this is the background

840
00:45:18,300 –> 00:45:22,000
objective of these Parables.
Yes, there’s going to be lots of

841
00:45:22,000 –> 00:45:23,500
other little lessons.
We got to pull out of it, but

842
00:45:23,500 –> 00:45:27,000
the overall sort of punch or
these Parables is that Jesus is

843
00:45:27,000 –> 00:45:28,700
not going to immediately appear
to those people.

844
00:45:29,900 –> 00:45:33,600
And he then progresses into the
Olivet prophecy in Matthew 24.

845
00:45:33,700 –> 00:45:37,000
For example, the question is
asked which, which sort of

846
00:45:37,008 –> 00:45:40,000
prompts the whole prophecy, when
are these things going to happen

847
00:45:40,200 –> 00:45:41,200
when you’re going to restore
again?

848
00:45:41,300 –> 00:45:43,200
The kingdom to Israel is the
sentiment there.

849
00:45:43,300 –> 00:45:46,200
One of these things going to be
and Jesus goes on in that in

850
00:45:46,207 –> 00:45:48,900
that prophecy says.
Well there’s going to be a lot

851
00:45:48,900 –> 00:45:51,700
of lot of time.
A lot of history is going to go

852
00:45:51,700 –> 00:45:53,800
under the bridge before these
things happen.

853
00:45:53,900 –> 00:45:57,100
He says there’s going to be Wars
rumors of wars and troubles.

854
00:45:57,100 –> 00:45:59,600
You said the end is not yet.
Don’t don’t think it’s because

855
00:45:59,700 –> 00:46:02,200
See, some wars in the Roman
Empire.

856
00:46:02,200 –> 00:46:05,700
That’s the end, is still a long
way off Nation will rise against

857
00:46:05,700 –> 00:46:09,000
Nation Kingdom against Kingdom,
and he says, but he that

858
00:46:09,000 –> 00:46:12,800
endureth to the end shall be
saved.

859
00:46:12,900 –> 00:46:15,000
This is the appeal of Jesus, in
these parables.

860
00:46:16,100 –> 00:46:19,000
Now.
Again, you have to follow this

861
00:46:19,000 –> 00:46:20,500
up in your own time, a lot of a
lot of you.

862
00:46:20,508 –> 00:46:26,000
But that, that would for lamps
that we often think about and

863
00:46:26,000 –> 00:46:28,200
have depicted in our Sunday
school plays Etc.

864
00:46:28,200 –> 00:46:30,500
When we look at this, Parable,
we often think of lamps in the

865
00:46:30,500 –> 00:46:33,100
sense of these little tiny
little lamps with a little weak

866
00:46:33,100 –> 00:46:36,400
on it that we carry around.
You might read a manuscript with

867
00:46:36,800 –> 00:46:39,500
the actual word, it’s only used
five times in the New Testament,

868
00:46:39,500 –> 00:46:42,700
the word lamps and it’s used an
interesting place in John 18,

869
00:46:42,700 –> 00:46:46,100
when the soldiers come to arrest
Jesus, I have these two tickets

870
00:46:46,100 –> 00:46:50,300
Transit torches Tortures, I went
little lamp so much, the Torches

871
00:46:50,500 –> 00:46:53,800
don’t have oil in them as such
what you do is that top of the

872
00:46:53,800 –> 00:46:58,400
torch is often had some leather
or even material at the top of,

873
00:46:58,400 –> 00:47:00,400
wouldn’t the like a steak, a
wooden stake.

874
00:47:00,400 –> 00:47:03,400
And you’ll dip them in the oil
and light them and then have to

875
00:47:03,400 –> 00:47:05,600
read them once they went out.
So, that’s the item.

876
00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:09,500
That’s more of the idea, than
the little sort of oil lamp that

877
00:47:09,508 –> 00:47:13,600
we sometimes think about, Now,
look at what happens in this

878
00:47:13,600 –> 00:47:15,600
Parable.
The five foolish.

879
00:47:16,800 –> 00:47:17,800
Talk.
No oil.

880
00:47:17,900 –> 00:47:19,400
None.
They never had any oil to start

881
00:47:19,400 –> 00:47:22,400
with, not at not a drop.
Okay, this is this is slightly

882
00:47:22,400 –> 00:47:24,000
different than the idea of our
oil levels.

883
00:47:24,000 –> 00:47:26,800
Running up and down through our
life, they never had oil with

884
00:47:26,800 –> 00:47:30,600
them since they took no oil with
them at all.

885
00:47:31,100 –> 00:47:35,800
And the lamps, as I said, didn’t
contain actual oil itself, look

886
00:47:35,800 –> 00:47:37,700
at the five wise.
They need they have oil in their

887
00:47:37,700 –> 00:47:40,200
lamps either.
They just had the lamp and it

888
00:47:40,200 –> 00:47:45,500
says they took or oil in their
vessels or the I think the ESV

889
00:47:45,500 –> 00:47:50,000
is got Thank you coil in the
flask, not in a torch, not in

890
00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:53,900
their land.
And basically other translators

891
00:47:53,900 –> 00:47:58,600
have jars or flask the five
foolish were not prepared for

892
00:47:58,600 –> 00:48:03,100
the long Waits that would come.
And so when there’s long way to

893
00:48:03,100 –> 00:48:05,400
curd and that they slumbered and
slept excetera when the

894
00:48:05,400 –> 00:48:08,700
bridegroom finally showed, at
that point, they had no oil

895
00:48:08,700 –> 00:48:10,800
whatsoever though.
We’re not ready for that long.

896
00:48:10,800 –> 00:48:13,300
Wait.
There’s no measurement of oil

897
00:48:13,300 –> 00:48:15,900
levels is no discussion of
topping up or you know,

898
00:48:15,900 –> 00:48:19,600
refilling Your Vessel with oil.
It’s a binary response oil or no

899
00:48:19,600 –> 00:48:21,100
oil.
That’s that’s that’s all that’s

900
00:48:21,100 –> 00:48:26,000
the difference between the wise
and the foolish virgins and it’s

901
00:48:26,000 –> 00:48:28,900
when the bridegroom comes, those
with oil are able to light up,

902
00:48:28,900 –> 00:48:32,900
their torches, duck it into
their flask, light it up.

903
00:48:32,900 –> 00:48:35,100
And they’re ready, they’re there
at the brought when the

904
00:48:35,100 –> 00:48:38,400
bridegroom finally comes,
they’ve lasted right through

905
00:48:38,400 –> 00:48:43,500
that whole time with oil.
And I think what Really seen as

906
00:48:43,500 –> 00:48:47,300
one of the principal lessons in
this Parable is those that he do

907
00:48:47,300 –> 00:48:48,900
unto.
The end will be saved those who

908
00:48:48,900 –> 00:48:51,200
have oil will be their right to
the very end.

909
00:48:51,200 –> 00:48:53,000
The others don’t have oil needs
sort of.

910
00:48:53,000 –> 00:48:54,700
They Nick off.
Basically, they do they all they

911
00:48:54,700 –> 00:48:58,000
all go.
Run away to find oil and it’s

912
00:48:58,000 –> 00:48:59,400
they’re not there.
That’s the point.

913
00:48:59,400 –> 00:49:03,600
They’re not there at the end.
Now how do we apply that to?

914
00:49:03,700 –> 00:49:07,700
What we’ve been talking about?
Well again, we’ve got a timeline

915
00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:09,900
that runs here in the in the
blue.

916
00:49:11,000 –> 00:49:13,900
Those that take off.
And a flask are there right?

917
00:49:13,900 –> 00:49:16,200
At the end when the bridegroom
comes, they’re there, they

918
00:49:16,200 –> 00:49:20,300
haven’t run off, they’re not out
of the event.

919
00:49:20,700 –> 00:49:23,800
And so we start off at baptism
and we don’t really know who’s

920
00:49:23,800 –> 00:49:24,600
going to be there right at the
end.

921
00:49:24,600 –> 00:49:26,900
Do we?
And I’m sure all of us are

922
00:49:26,900 –> 00:49:28,500
shocked.
As I am about some of our

923
00:49:28,500 –> 00:49:33,000
friends and and people that seem
to be front and center in the

924
00:49:33,000 –> 00:49:36,300
work of the truth and have been
a central part of our lives with

925
00:49:36,300 –> 00:49:38,400
him, and looked up to who are
not there at the end.

926
00:49:39,100 –> 00:49:43,000
And I’ve just made some
hypothetical Is he a brother

927
00:49:43,000 –> 00:49:45,600
rakes leaves?
His wife and marries the

928
00:49:45,600 –> 00:49:47,200
secretary at work and leaves the
truth?

929
00:49:47,200 –> 00:49:49,500
I mean that’s happened.
That happens in his appearing to

930
00:49:49,508 –> 00:49:51,600
happen, more and more sister,
why?

931
00:49:51,600 –> 00:49:54,100
She leaves the truth and goes
and joins a Pentecostal Church

932
00:49:55,100 –> 00:49:56,800
brother.
And sister said, they basically

933
00:49:56,800 –> 00:50:00,000
just drift away, they don’t show
up at the meeting anymore.

934
00:50:00,000 –> 00:50:02,300
They sort of drift out of the
truth and eventually they

935
00:50:02,300 –> 00:50:04,100
consider themselves, agnostic,
or atheist.

936
00:50:04,100 –> 00:50:07,600
A just drifted away at the end
of the day.

937
00:50:07,600 –> 00:50:10,400
They had no oil and we don’t
know who has all the one who was

938
00:50:10,400 –> 00:50:15,200
not the the result of the end
determines our, are they there

939
00:50:15,200 –> 00:50:18,500
at the end with their lamps?
Lit, up to welcome the

940
00:50:18,500 –> 00:50:21,600
bridegroom that’s indications
bit, like in John of study, we

941
00:50:21,600 –> 00:50:23,600
don’t know who’s built on the
sand, who’s built on the Rock.

942
00:50:23,600 –> 00:50:26,700
It’s not we don’t know that.
The, the results at the end,

943
00:50:26,700 –> 00:50:31,300
those who survive the storms of
life and there at the end have

944
00:50:31,300 –> 00:50:32,800
built on the Rock, That’s How
we’ll know.

945
00:50:33,500 –> 00:50:36,500
And so in this case, the same
thing those with oil are the

946
00:50:36,500 –> 00:50:38,600
ones that are there at the end
to welcome the bride groom, and

947
00:50:38,600 –> 00:50:42,600
he comes And as I said, I think
it’s, I think this concept in

948
00:50:42,607 –> 00:50:44,200
Matthew 24.
Is those that enjoy it to?

949
00:50:44,207 –> 00:50:48,000
The end is really the power of
this study.

950
00:50:49,100 –> 00:50:52,700
Now, just in the few minutes
that remain, want us to think

951
00:50:52,700 –> 00:50:55,700
about verses that seem to go
against everything.

952
00:50:55,700 –> 00:50:59,600
I’ve said this week, and there’s
quite a number and particularly

953
00:51:00,500 –> 00:51:04,700
what often happens is, sometimes
These verses can almost become

954
00:51:04,800 –> 00:51:08,200
these phrases and verses become
almost mantras in our occlusal

955
00:51:08,200 –> 00:51:11,300
environments, depending where
we’ve, grown up and, and what

956
00:51:11,300 –> 00:51:13,500
things were emphasizing.
And, and there’s a lot of versus

957
00:51:13,500 –> 00:51:17,400
a lot of Concepts that that have
been thrown up used by chairman

958
00:51:17,400 –> 00:51:19,900
used in prayers, use that young,
people’s events used.

959
00:51:19,900 –> 00:51:22,300
All our life.
That would indicate that

960
00:51:23,700 –> 00:51:26,300
salvation is a scarcity.
That not many will be say that

961
00:51:26,300 –> 00:51:28,600
it’s hard to be saved.
That only a few will be saved in

962
00:51:28,607 –> 00:51:32,900
these verses probably come in
your mind right now. and even

963
00:51:32,900 –> 00:51:36,400
though you might have, Consented
to the some of my Concepts

964
00:51:36,400 –> 00:51:38,300
through the week.
And then single brother, Carter

965
00:51:38,300 –> 00:51:40,600
says, and brother tenant and
brother Robertson Brother,

966
00:51:40,600 –> 00:51:43,600
Thomas, are you still got these
niggling thoughts in your mind

967
00:51:43,600 –> 00:51:44,800
thinking?
But what about?

968
00:51:44,800 –> 00:51:46,500
But what about, but what about,
but what about?

969
00:51:46,900 –> 00:51:49,500
And we just want to quickly.
Look at some of these, as I

970
00:51:49,500 –> 00:51:51,800
said, this is really a whole
session, really more of a

971
00:51:51,808 –> 00:51:54,300
workshop session but we’re just
going to put these up for us to

972
00:51:54,300 –> 00:51:57,600
think about now.
One of the things that a lot of

973
00:51:57,600 –> 00:52:00,800
people find daunting is the
absolute demands that Jesus

974
00:52:00,800 –> 00:52:05,200
makes and they unequivocal the
demands of Jesus are Perfection

975
00:52:05,200 –> 00:52:09,200
and nothing less.
And and that we find that don’t

976
00:52:09,200 –> 00:52:11,200
because none of us.
None of us know will ever

977
00:52:11,200 –> 00:52:14,100
achieve that.
Any of the Apostle Paul with

978
00:52:14,100 –> 00:52:16,500
that, if that was, if that was
his perspective as well, would

979
00:52:16,500 –> 00:52:18,800
find it hard to say there’s a
crown of righteousness because

980
00:52:18,800 –> 00:52:21,100
he never achieved Perfection.
I mean, we know from Romans 7,

981
00:52:21,100 –> 00:52:23,500
we know from his life that he
there were things that he did

982
00:52:23,500 –> 00:52:25,600
wrong.
So how do we reconcile this

983
00:52:25,600 –> 00:52:27,100
audio?
This absolute demand for

984
00:52:27,100 –> 00:52:28,900
Perfection.
There’s no there’s no middle

985
00:52:28,900 –> 00:52:31,600
ground with Christ.
So as I said before it’s, you

986
00:52:31,600 –> 00:52:34,700
know, even the parable of the
talents, the only the to he

987
00:52:34,700 –> 00:52:38,800
gives two extremes, he says zero
response or zero return on my

988
00:52:38,900 –> 00:52:43,300
investment or 100%.
So like it’s it’s Isn’t he?

989
00:52:43,300 –> 00:52:46,600
The role sort of situation when
you think about it in the

990
00:52:46,607 –> 00:52:49,900
righteousness of God that has to
be the demand of Christ.

991
00:52:50,200 –> 00:52:52,900
He caught me.
He can’t say look.

992
00:52:54,000 –> 00:52:58,500
I represent God and and I’m
showing what God’s like and look

993
00:52:58,500 –> 00:53:01,300
if you just Reach This sort of
level than the should be.

994
00:53:01,300 –> 00:53:04,200
Okay, he has to make this
absolutely man, he’s the king

995
00:53:04,700 –> 00:53:07,000
and in life throughout all
history, those great men of

996
00:53:07,400 –> 00:53:09,500
history like Napoleon or
Alexander the Great, or whether

997
00:53:09,500 –> 00:53:12,800
they might be their favorite,
quite absolute commitment.

998
00:53:13,000 –> 00:53:15,200
Where you’ve got to give you a
life for them and follow them

999
00:53:15,700 –> 00:53:17,900
unstintingly in that absolute
way.

1000
00:53:18,100 –> 00:53:20,300
And Jesus is the king and
particularly Matthew’s gospel.

1001
00:53:20,300 –> 00:53:23,300
He is presenting himself as this
King and his demands are

1002
00:53:23,300 –> 00:53:25,900
absolute now.
Yes, that’s true.

1003
00:53:25,900 –> 00:53:29,300
But we have to read that and
think about that and take that

1004
00:53:29,308 –> 00:53:31,800
into account in the context of
all of Jesus life.

1005
00:53:32,500 –> 00:53:35,900
We Jesus talked to the woman
who’s been taking adultery and,

1006
00:53:35,900 –> 00:53:39,300
and other statements he makes
where there seems to be a

1007
00:53:39,300 –> 00:53:42,800
breakdown of that absolute
requirement, that he seems to

1008
00:53:42,800 –> 00:53:48,100
demand.
And this this idea of this, it

1009
00:53:48,100 –> 00:53:51,400
just think about this idea of
this absolute absolutes on both

1010
00:53:51,400 –> 00:53:52,900
sides of the Ledger.
Absolutely.

1011
00:53:52,900 –> 00:53:56,200
When he when he presents those
who rejected they are, Absolute

1012
00:53:56,200 –> 00:54:00,700
Total obvious people that will
be rejected.

1013
00:54:00,700 –> 00:54:04,400
Those are accepted our offer.
Most Angelic and reached an

1014
00:54:04,400 –> 00:54:07,300
absolute perfection, and, and
they are the two extremes.

1015
00:54:07,300 –> 00:54:11,200
And Jesus saying, in your life,
you have to be pushing towards

1016
00:54:11,200 –> 00:54:14,400
that.
That, that extreme in a sense

1017
00:54:14,900 –> 00:54:17,400
moving in John, has study was
excellent.

1018
00:54:17,400 –> 00:54:19,400
How are you?
He bought these two extremes to,

1019
00:54:19,400 –> 00:54:21,600
to ahead really didn’t said, you
know, you’ve got these two or

1020
00:54:21,600 –> 00:54:25,600
three, you’ve got almost a
psychopathic type person who’s

1021
00:54:25,900 –> 00:54:28,500
made a list of all their
achievements and they know they

1022
00:54:28,500 –> 00:54:30,000
can rattle them off.
And say I’ve done all these

1023
00:54:30,000 –> 00:54:31,700
great things.
Haven’t I done these great

1024
00:54:31,700 –> 00:54:33,400
things in there.
Aware of them and they’re

1025
00:54:33,800 –> 00:54:36,300
conscious of them and they’re
the verses before.

1026
00:54:36,300 –> 00:54:37,800
Talk about sheep in Wolf’s
clothing.

1027
00:54:37,800 –> 00:54:41,600
This is a, this is a, you know,
this person is obviously not

1028
00:54:41,600 –> 00:54:43,100
going to be saved.
They just got this absolute

1029
00:54:43,100 –> 00:54:47,200
extreme approach, to just doing
things to be seen of men.

1030
00:54:47,200 –> 00:54:50,300
And they’re just, it’s just
that, like I said, almost

1031
00:54:50,600 –> 00:54:54,200
psychopathy, The Other Extreme
was these people that are

1032
00:54:54,200 –> 00:54:55,600
depicted in the parable of the
sheep.

1033
00:54:55,600 –> 00:54:59,500
And goats who have this sort of
axiomatic risk Faith response in

1034
00:54:59,500 –> 00:55:01,200
like whether they’re virtually
doing things almost

1035
00:55:01,200 –> 00:55:04,100
automatically and Even a way
that they doing all these

1036
00:55:04,100 –> 00:55:07,100
things, which again, I think,
you know, it’s something that I

1037
00:55:07,100 –> 00:55:10,200
can’t honestly say I’m anywhere
near so.

1038
00:55:10,500 –> 00:55:13,800
So these extremes represented by
Christ to give us a direction

1039
00:55:13,800 –> 00:55:16,700
that we should be following and
that there’s he demands absolute

1040
00:55:16,700 –> 00:55:20,400
perfection in that way.
And what we have got to on look

1041
00:55:20,400 –> 00:55:22,900
at this but there’s a style of
language Middle East and in the

1042
00:55:22,900 –> 00:55:25,100
Middle Eastern Riders.
Use a lot couldn’t ellipses

1043
00:55:25,100 –> 00:55:27,400
which you want to look up and
talk about where the look, we’re

1044
00:55:27,400 –> 00:55:31,300
adding an extreme statement is
made and you have to fill in the

1045
00:55:31,300 –> 00:55:35,100
gaps in the sense and make sense
of it based on context.

1046
00:55:35,100 –> 00:55:37,100
Etc.
So here is a classic case in

1047
00:55:37,100 –> 00:55:40,500
Luke 14 and this is one of the
statements of you cannot be my

1048
00:55:40,500 –> 00:55:43,200
disciple statements, that that
worry is a lot.

1049
00:55:43,900 –> 00:55:47,800
He says, if any man come to me
and hate not his father, his

1050
00:55:47,800 –> 00:55:49,800
mother, his wife, and children.
Brothers and sisters.

1051
00:55:49,800 –> 00:55:52,500
Yeah, he’s own life.
He cannot be my disciple.

1052
00:55:52,500 –> 00:55:54,600
Just forget it.
You’re just not even going to be

1053
00:55:54,900 –> 00:55:59,100
don’t even bother trying.
That’s the initial impression

1054
00:55:59,100 –> 00:56:02,600
without Takin taking idiom and
and another aspects into

1055
00:56:02,600 –> 00:56:04,200
account.
This, this audio will, you know,

1056
00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:07,700
I don’t hate my mother brother
sister and we sort of intervene

1057
00:56:07,700 –> 00:56:11,700
and say well by comparison.
But even by comparison, really

1058
00:56:11,700 –> 00:56:15,100
honestly, does anyone really
achieve that sort of level of

1059
00:56:15,100 –> 00:56:18,400
difference between their hatred
of my parents as compared to my

1060
00:56:18,400 –> 00:56:22,100
love of It’s a it’s an extreme
statement isn’t it on any level

1061
00:56:22,100 –> 00:56:25,100
and it’s not consistent with
Christ’s own words about

1062
00:56:25,100 –> 00:56:27,000
honoring our mother and father
Etc.

1063
00:56:27,000 –> 00:56:31,500
So it requires a sense of
interpretation about it even

1064
00:56:31,500 –> 00:56:33,500
though we black and white.
It’s there in black and white.

1065
00:56:33,500 –> 00:56:35,800
You cannot be my disciple.
What’s the back and wipe

1066
00:56:35,800 –> 00:56:40,300
slightly clearer?
So Simplistically.

1067
00:56:40,300 –> 00:56:42,300
We gotta we gotta we gotta be
careful sometimes when were

1068
00:56:42,300 –> 00:56:44,400
interpreting these words and
then applying them to ourselves,

1069
00:56:44,400 –> 00:56:46,500
there is an absolute demand of
Christ.

1070
00:56:46,500 –> 00:56:49,900
Absolutely Man compared to your
love for your family, you must

1071
00:56:49,900 –> 00:56:53,400
hate them compared to how you
respect and reverence and follow

1072
00:56:53,400 –> 00:56:58,000
and obey me and sometimes in our
life we got to make decisions to

1073
00:56:58,008 –> 00:57:02,900
go against our family because of
principles Etc and they do come

1074
00:57:02,900 –> 00:57:06,200
to the fore but there it’s
presented in this sort of such

1075
00:57:06,200 –> 00:57:08,700
Stark way.
As I said, the parable of

1076
00:57:08,700 –> 00:57:14,800
talents the examples are, as I
said, 0 or 100 zero response

1077
00:57:14,800 –> 00:57:18,100
from the servant the lazy
servant who buried his talent or

1078
00:57:18,100 –> 00:57:21,500
100% achievement.
And again, where do I stand in

1079
00:57:21,500 –> 00:57:23,200
it?
I don’t think I’m 10, I don’t

1080
00:57:23,200 –> 00:57:24,700
think I’m here.
I definitely don’t think I’m

1081
00:57:24,707 –> 00:57:27,300
100%.
So what where do I see myself?

1082
00:57:27,300 –> 00:57:31,400
And again, the Lord gives the
parables in such an extreme way

1083
00:57:31,400 –> 00:57:34,800
because he’s calling us to this
absolute perfection and absolute

1084
00:57:35,800 –> 00:57:39,700
total commitment to God, even
Knowing that that that, you

1085
00:57:39,707 –> 00:57:42,000
know, is not actually going to
be achieved by any of us.

1086
00:57:42,800 –> 00:57:44,700
In fact, I’d suggest that on our
first night.

1087
00:57:45,100 –> 00:57:48,800
He says, when he’s interviewing
the lazy servant he says, like

1088
00:57:48,800 –> 00:57:51,400
why don’t you just put your
talent in the bank just get

1089
00:57:51,400 –> 00:57:53,200
interest?
At least I would have been happy

1090
00:57:53,200 –> 00:57:56,800
with interest which is like a 4%
return it if you’d done

1091
00:57:56,800 –> 00:58:00,200
something, you know?
So so the the Ark of Salvation

1092
00:58:00,200 –> 00:58:04,200
if you want to Hypothetically,
extended isn’t just a hundred

1093
00:58:04,200 –> 00:58:07,600
percent, but it there are other
layers to that.

1094
00:58:09,000 –> 00:58:10,900
What about the other Parable?
The parable of the sower.

1095
00:58:11,600 –> 00:58:12,500
Have you thought about the power
of the?

1096
00:58:12,508 –> 00:58:16,200
So in the terms of enduring to
the end, sometimes we think of

1097
00:58:16,200 –> 00:58:19,200
it as just a different grounds,
different responses, that’s it.

1098
00:58:19,200 –> 00:58:22,100
But I think there’s more in it
than just a response initial

1099
00:58:22,100 –> 00:58:24,900
response.
So there’s an endurance building

1100
00:58:24,900 –> 00:58:28,400
to this Parable, right up until
the production of Fruit by in

1101
00:58:28,400 –> 00:58:32,100
different measures.
So there’s a three different

1102
00:58:32,100 –> 00:58:33,900
grounds.
That’s the Wayside the Stony

1103
00:58:33,900 –> 00:58:38,100
ground the Thorns to meet
appears the Wayside never ever

1104
00:58:38,100 –> 00:58:39,100
come.
The Christ.

1105
00:58:39,100 –> 00:58:40,800
Those are the seed that fell on
the wayside.

1106
00:58:40,800 –> 00:58:44,600
It says, they do not believe
they never believed, which means

1107
00:58:44,600 –> 00:58:47,100
I never had Faith.
They never were in Christ.

1108
00:58:47,400 –> 00:58:51,100
However, the Stony ground the
Thorns did begin their life in

1109
00:58:51,100 –> 00:58:54,800
Christ in Salvation, says a
Stony ground though, it says

1110
00:58:54,800 –> 00:59:00,200
they withered away and Jesus
says they received them

1111
00:59:00,300 –> 00:59:01,800
persecution or embarrassment
whatever.

1112
00:59:01,800 –> 00:59:05,800
And it says they fall away or
the Greek means they depart or

1113
00:59:05,800 –> 00:59:08,200
they’re removed.
So sometime in their life,

1114
00:59:09,200 –> 00:59:12,200
They’re like, they’re like the
put the version doesn’t have the

1115
00:59:12,200 –> 00:59:14,200
oil.
They like the person who built

1116
00:59:14,200 –> 00:59:16,100
on the on the sand and not the
rock.

1117
00:59:16,100 –> 00:59:18,800
They are for persecution or
trolls in their life, whatever

1118
00:59:19,000 –> 00:59:22,900
they remove themselves from the
pale of Salvation, the Thorns,

1119
00:59:22,900 –> 00:59:26,000
the same sort of idea, it’s a
result of behavior.

1120
00:59:26,000 –> 00:59:29,800
They become choked and that word
choked in Strong’s means to be

1121
00:59:29,800 –> 00:59:33,300
drowned or to become strangled.
It’s a process.

1122
00:59:33,300 –> 00:59:36,000
It’s not just something that
happens automatically and the

1123
00:59:36,000 –> 00:59:39,300
very first sign of the, you
know, the Busch trying to sort

1124
00:59:39,300 –> 00:59:42,800
of creep around their legs does
not mean that are outside the

1125
00:59:42,800 –> 00:59:44,800
Kingdom at that point.
It was a process where they

1126
00:59:44,800 –> 00:59:48,200
became choked and therefore it
says they became Barren and bore

1127
00:59:48,200 –> 00:59:53,100
no fruit and they put themselves
outside of Salvation in that

1128
00:59:53,100 –> 00:59:55,400
way.
As far as the big question,

1129
00:59:55,400 –> 00:59:58,000
everyone’s everyone’s got their
mind, maybe says, well, okay,

1130
00:59:58,000 –> 00:59:59,900
these put their Stony ground in
the Thorns.

1131
01:00:00,300 –> 01:00:03,100
They started a process that
ended up with them being choked

1132
01:00:03,100 –> 01:00:06,900
or having fallen away.
At what point do they then put

1133
01:00:06,900 –> 01:00:11,900
themselves outside of Salvation
and where does this, where does

1134
01:00:11,900 –> 01:00:14,200
this actually happen?
This is the thing we don’t know

1135
01:00:15,000 –> 01:00:16,600
and this is why we have
exaltation.

1136
01:00:16,600 –> 01:00:19,500
This while we have bustled and
Bible schools is where we keep

1137
01:00:19,500 –> 01:00:21,900
strengthening ourselves and
going back to God’s word and

1138
01:00:22,100 –> 01:00:26,100
refine in retuning out our A
life and examining ourselves and

1139
01:00:26,200 –> 01:00:30,200
and be uplifted and refocus on
the Beatitudes, and the fruit of

1140
01:00:30,207 –> 01:00:32,800
the spirit, all these things,
because we’ve got to keep going

1141
01:00:33,600 –> 01:00:35,700
towards Christ.
That’s that’s the whole purpose

1142
01:00:35,700 –> 01:00:37,800
behind it.
That we don’t start a downward

1143
01:00:37,800 –> 01:00:41,600
Trend that eventually can lead
us outside God’s pay or

1144
01:00:41,600 –> 01:00:44,000
salvation and we need to provoke
each other.

1145
01:00:44,000 –> 01:00:46,900
That’s what you know, Hebrew
says, provoke one, another unto

1146
01:00:46,900 –> 01:00:49,200
love and to Good Works.
Not that we’re saying you’re not

1147
01:00:49,200 –> 01:00:51,000
going to be the kingdom.
If you don’t do this or that or

1148
01:00:51,000 –> 01:00:54,100
you don’t do, you know, do this.
We don’t speak here tonight.

1149
01:00:54,500 –> 01:00:58,500
We’re sort of saying lift our
game because God has given us

1150
01:00:58,500 –> 01:01:03,200
salvation and be aware of
pitfalls and things that we can

1151
01:01:03,200 –> 01:01:05,500
do.
That can start us on a path that

1152
01:01:05,500 –> 01:01:08,800
leads eventually to destruction
and that’s that’s the whole

1153
01:01:08,800 –> 01:01:13,100
purpose behind it.
Okay, let’s just finish up with

1154
01:01:13,100 –> 01:01:15,500
a few IDs.
Who will definitely not be in

1155
01:01:15,500 –> 01:01:18,000
the kingdom and this is, I think
this helps us get a perspective

1156
01:01:18,000 –> 01:01:20,600
on things as well.
There are cut there a few times

1157
01:01:20,600 –> 01:01:23,900
in the Epistles we were given
lists of who will not be in the

1158
01:01:23,900 –> 01:01:25,800
Kingdom.
Sorry, brother two minutes.

1159
01:01:26,000 –> 01:01:28,500
Okay, will you?
We can do it.

1160
01:01:29,500 –> 01:01:32,200
Okay, these lists, are all
pretty similar.

1161
01:01:32,300 –> 01:01:34,100
These people will not inherit
the kingdom of God.

1162
01:01:34,200 –> 01:01:36,500
Fornicators idolaters
adulterers, effeminate abused

1163
01:01:36,500 –> 01:01:37,800
themselves.
Mankind thieves, Covetous

1164
01:01:37,800 –> 01:01:39,800
drunkards.
Revilers extortionist shall not

1165
01:01:39,800 –> 01:01:41,000
inherit.
The kingdom of God.

1166
01:01:41,600 –> 01:01:44,200
And I know I’ve heard talks
where a brother will say oh look

1167
01:01:44,200 –> 01:01:46,800
at all these terrible things but
there’s drunkenness in there.

1168
01:01:46,800 –> 01:01:50,800
So you shouldn’t drink alcohol.
That’s not that’s not quite a an

1169
01:01:50,800 –> 01:01:53,200
honest interpretation of the
bottom looking at the context

1170
01:01:53,200 –> 01:01:56,200
and the position.
It’s it’s a lifestyle, their of

1171
01:01:56,200 –> 01:01:59,400
drunkenness and reveling.
And that is, but he’s part of

1172
01:01:59,408 –> 01:02:02,100
the lifestyle that puts someone
outside the kingdom of God, I’m

1173
01:02:02,100 –> 01:02:04,200
talking very fast e.
You can see the repetition of

1174
01:02:04,207 –> 01:02:07,900
all these ideas in Galatians and
Ephesians.

1175
01:02:08,200 –> 01:02:10,100
These people that will not be in
the kingdom of God.

1176
01:02:10,900 –> 01:02:12,800
And I think it’s the audio whole
monk.

1177
01:02:12,800 –> 01:02:14,700
I don’t even know if anyone
knows of a whoremonger is, but

1178
01:02:14,900 –> 01:02:18,200
it seems to be in the context of
the first century writings a

1179
01:02:18,207 –> 01:02:22,400
male prostitute, this is a
lifestyle so obnoxious that it

1180
01:02:22,400 –> 01:02:25,400
puts you outside the kingdom of
God, which which makes sense

1181
01:02:26,600 –> 01:02:29,000
Okay, we are rush through these
and I say I’m sorry, I’ve gotta

1182
01:02:29,000 –> 01:02:32,000
rush really so quickly.
I’ll get the paper over for

1183
01:02:32,000 –> 01:02:34,700
those who want to look at these
in more detail or my

1184
01:02:34,700 –> 01:02:37,000
explanations for these verses
are not mine.

1185
01:02:37,000 –> 01:02:40,400
They’re from either HP Mansfield
or brother barley nor brother

1186
01:02:40,400 –> 01:02:43,300
Carter, who have looked at the
context.

1187
01:02:43,300 –> 01:02:47,000
And the reality of these words,
not just use them in a sort of a

1188
01:02:47,000 –> 01:02:51,200
glib sort of cliche way.
But I’ve looked at what they’re

1189
01:02:51,200 –> 01:02:54,800
really referring to.
Now, this one here, many people.

1190
01:02:55,900 –> 01:02:59,500
I think sort of summarizes the
whole story that they, many are

1191
01:02:59,500 –> 01:03:02,400
called few are chosen.
Therefore, how can I possibly be

1192
01:03:02,400 –> 01:03:04,000
in the kingdom?
And I look around the Ecclesia,

1193
01:03:04,500 –> 01:03:07,300
there’s no way I’m going to be
one of those called the reality

1194
01:03:07,300 –> 01:03:09,100
is, without going into it in too
much detail.

1195
01:03:09,500 –> 01:03:11,700
The word chosen is a word.
Cleese’s, it’s a word.

1196
01:03:11,700 –> 01:03:15,400
Ecclesia, those who have entered
into God’s Ecclesia through

1197
01:03:15,400 –> 01:03:17,900
faith.
Are the chosen, the called, in

1198
01:03:17,900 –> 01:03:20,600
Jesus time, the called were all
those who heard the message, the

1199
01:03:20,600 –> 01:03:23,300
crowds of people, that
surrounded Jesus, and listen to

1200
01:03:23,300 –> 01:03:27,600
his message but never ever join.
He became a follower of Christ.

1201
01:03:29,700 –> 01:03:31,900
This is our list.
This one again these quotes soon

1202
01:03:31,900 –> 01:03:34,400
to blow everything I’ve said out
of the water when you look at

1203
01:03:34,400 –> 01:03:37,200
them on first reading.
But when you carefully, look at

1204
01:03:37,200 –> 01:03:39,600
them in their context, the story
is quite different.

1205
01:03:39,900 –> 01:03:43,900
This is a famous quote First,
Peter 4 verse 18 that says, if

1206
01:03:43,900 –> 01:03:47,800
the righteous are scarcely saved
your what will be the what will

1207
01:03:47,800 –> 01:03:50,700
happen to the Sinners.
And we say, oh the righteous are

1208
01:03:50,700 –> 01:03:54,000
scarcely saved.
I’ve never once we put a

1209
01:03:54,000 –> 01:03:58,400
judgment seat play on years ago.
Think my wife was rejected in

1210
01:03:58,400 –> 01:04:01,200
that play, which is fair enough?
We put a judgment seat play on.

1211
01:04:01,800 –> 01:04:05,200
And one of the lines in the play
was, you know, the person gets

1212
01:04:05,200 –> 01:04:08,600
saved says, I was saved by the
skin of my teeth and at one of

1213
01:04:08,600 –> 01:04:11,800
the Brethren of the conference
got up and said, well, I take

1214
01:04:11,800 –> 01:04:14,200
objection with that phrase
because that’s not how we’re

1215
01:04:14,200 –> 01:04:16,300
saved by the skin of our teeth
were saved because we’re in

1216
01:04:16,300 –> 01:04:19,500
Christ now, all of us were all
young people going held dare.

1217
01:04:19,500 –> 01:04:21,700
He say that.
And and we’ve got all upset with

1218
01:04:21,700 –> 01:04:24,700
him for trying to ruin our play.
And one of the things that we

1219
01:04:24,700 –> 01:04:27,100
all said, what about first paid
off or he has no.

1220
01:04:27,100 –> 01:04:29,300
He’s talking about the righteous
scarcely say looking.

1221
01:04:29,500 –> 01:04:31,100
Back now he was right and I was
wrong.

1222
01:04:31,100 –> 01:04:35,500
So then if you want to, if you
want the answer to this section,

1223
01:04:35,500 –> 01:04:36,800
is not talking about the
Judgment seat.

1224
01:04:36,800 –> 01:04:40,500
That’s, that’s the that’s the
quick answer verse 17 says, the

1225
01:04:40,500 –> 01:04:42,700
time has come that judgment will
begin at the house.

1226
01:04:42,700 –> 01:04:45,500
What was happening right there.
And then it was a judgments of

1227
01:04:45,500 –> 01:04:47,500
the trials that first Peter is
all about trials.

1228
01:04:47,700 –> 01:04:51,300
The trials were about to count
upon the truth through Nero and

1229
01:04:51,300 –> 01:04:53,500
eventually would lead to the
destruction of the Jewish state

1230
01:04:53,500 –> 01:04:56,800
in totality and that was about
to happen right there.

1231
01:04:56,800 –> 01:04:59,300
And then and that’s the if you
want your rebuild HP, man.

1232
01:04:59,500 –> 01:05:02,900
During the James to Jude
Expositor and see that expounded

1233
01:05:02,900 –> 01:05:06,200
in a very clear way.
Now, there’s another one again.

1234
01:05:06,700 –> 01:05:09,800
This one seems to blow blow my
whole thesis out of the water.

1235
01:05:09,800 –> 01:05:13,200
When you first read it, it says
look at Israel, they all First

1236
01:05:13,200 –> 01:05:14,300
Corinthians and they all came
through.

1237
01:05:14,300 –> 01:05:16,300
The Red Sea, they were all
baptized into Moses.

1238
01:05:16,300 –> 01:05:19,700
They all eat the spiritual food,
which was the manner and yet

1239
01:05:19,700 –> 01:05:21,200
most of them died in the
wilderness, you go.

1240
01:05:21,200 –> 01:05:23,300
Well, they’re all in the
occlusion, then are all baptized

1241
01:05:23,500 –> 01:05:26,200
and then they most of them
didn’t make it so apply that to

1242
01:05:26,200 –> 01:05:29,600
us.
Now the reality is the

1243
01:05:29,600 –> 01:05:31,800
comparison.
I have a lot of time that dwell

1244
01:05:31,800 –> 01:05:33,100
on this.
A bit longer, the comparison

1245
01:05:33,100 –> 01:05:37,300
between a saint or a believer in
Christ and it Israelite that’s

1246
01:05:37,300 –> 01:05:43,100
born into being a Jew or Hebrew.
The comparison is not, is not

1247
01:05:43,100 –> 01:05:46,000
complete.
It is used for comparison but it

1248
01:05:46,000 –> 01:05:51,400
is not a complete analogy.
When you look at it and this was

1249
01:05:51,400 –> 01:05:54,900
a specific warning.
In First Corinthians 10 about

1250
01:05:54,900 –> 01:05:57,200
Brethren, who thought they could
go into the idols Temple.

1251
01:05:57,400 –> 01:06:00,000
With those Rich lines,
prostitution and prostitution

1252
01:06:00,000 –> 01:06:04,000
was normalized and condoned by
Society in a very

1253
01:06:04,000 –> 01:06:06,000
straightforward way.
And they thought they could go

1254
01:06:06,000 –> 01:06:10,100
there and eat and drink and be
part of that whole lifestyle and

1255
01:06:10,100 –> 01:06:13,800
not be led away and it was a
comp overconfidence.

1256
01:06:13,800 –> 01:06:18,000
And Paul is saying here, look,
look at Israel with all the

1257
01:06:18,000 –> 01:06:19,900
advantages.
I had, they saw the Miracles.

1258
01:06:19,900 –> 01:06:22,000
They saw the power of God, they
saw the sea been open.

1259
01:06:22,400 –> 01:06:26,200
And the moabite is a moabite.
Women turned up, you know, it’s

1260
01:06:26,200 –> 01:06:30,200
23,000 Roy you know that they
were annihilated as a result of

1261
01:06:30,207 –> 01:06:31,800
that he says therefore take
heed.

1262
01:06:31,800 –> 01:06:34,600
He thinks he stands and can
handle this lifestyle.

1263
01:06:34,900 –> 01:06:38,700
It will lead you in a way that
is detrimental and eventually

1264
01:06:38,900 –> 01:06:40,400
put you outside the pale of
Salvation.

1265
01:06:40,400 –> 01:06:42,100
Now that’s not my
interpretation.

1266
01:06:42,100 –> 01:06:44,000
You read brother Marlene’s notes
on Corinth.

1267
01:06:44,800 –> 01:06:50,200
He said he no case is Paul’s
argument there in no case.

1268
01:06:50,200 –> 01:06:53,100
In Paul’s argument, was the
equivalence of present and past

1269
01:06:53,100 –> 01:06:54,700
details meant to be an absolute
one.

1270
01:06:54,900 –> 01:06:57,900
Absolutely.
Not the comparison of Vacation

1271
01:06:58,300 –> 01:07:00,300
is not the same and that we
could talk about that for some

1272
01:07:00,300 –> 01:07:03,800
time.
But these people in Corinth,

1273
01:07:03,800 –> 01:07:06,600
they started on a downward
spiral by just going to the

1274
01:07:06,600 –> 01:07:11,000
temple, you know, being part of
the celebrations there and

1275
01:07:11,000 –> 01:07:13,300
eventually for taking and
everything else that it could

1276
01:07:13,300 –> 01:07:16,600
offer.
Now, this one, if we sin

1277
01:07:16,600 –> 01:07:19,400
willfully, this one is seems to
blow everything I’ve set out of

1278
01:07:19,400 –> 01:07:21,700
the water as well.
It’s a quoting Hebrews 10.

1279
01:07:21,700 –> 01:07:25,200
It says, if we sin willfully
after we’ve been in Christ,

1280
01:07:25,200 –> 01:07:28,800
there is no sacrifice for our
sins, except the looking fiery.

1281
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Looking forward to have judgment
think that well, all our sins,

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01:07:32,000 –> 01:07:33,500
our will Things.
Other, we’ve all everything.

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01:07:33,500 –> 01:07:35,700
Everything we do is all decision
when we make a decision.

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01:07:35,700 –> 01:07:40,100
Therefore, How can any of us be
saved again?

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01:07:40,400 –> 01:07:42,800
Context is King.
When it comes to Bible study and

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01:07:42,800 –> 01:07:44,000
you want to brief, you will read
brother.

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01:07:44,000 –> 01:07:49,000
Carter in Hebrews, he says Paul
is for donations pulp 100%.

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01:07:49,000 –> 01:07:52,600
We think it’s Paul and Hebrews
is specifically specifically

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01:07:52,600 –> 01:07:56,000
referring to those who were
going back to Judaism and

1290
01:07:56,000 –> 01:07:59,700
training under foot the the body
of Christ.

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01:07:59,700 –> 01:08:02,700
And and I like dogs going back
to their vomit and and that’s

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01:08:02,700 –> 01:08:04,600
the immediate context.
And that’s what that’s what

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01:08:04,600 –> 01:08:06,800
Paul’s rule, the right of the he
was referring to.

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01:08:07,200 –> 01:08:09,800
He says, I just read this one
because it’s really powerful to

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01:08:09,800 –> 01:08:11,700
see brother.
Carter’s state will do a black

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01:08:11,700 –> 01:08:13,700
and white.
It looks like it decimates us,

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01:08:13,700 –> 01:08:15,500
doesn’t in black and white.
It looks like how can we ever

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01:08:15,500 –> 01:08:17,700
get past this verse?
It’s like all of our sin

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01:08:17,700 –> 01:08:21,899
willfully brother Carter says in
letter to the Hebrews, all the

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01:08:21,899 –> 01:08:24,000
influences about them.
Tended, to make them leave the

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01:08:24,000 –> 01:08:25,700
Christian Community.
Does his pressure to leave the

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01:08:25,700 –> 01:08:29,200
commuting go back to Judaism.
He says many anxious Souls have

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01:08:29,200 –> 01:08:32,000
worried over whether they have
committed this willful sin.

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01:08:32,899 –> 01:08:34,700
Dings audience, selfies on
myself to prove.

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01:08:34,700 –> 01:08:37,800
Otherwise what is this?
Willful sin question, mark, the

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01:08:37,800 –> 01:08:40,200
context on both sides of the
versus fixes.

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01:08:40,200 –> 01:08:43,399
What it is?
It is leaving the truth, that’s

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01:08:43,399 –> 01:08:46,000
what it is.
And in the case of the Hebrews

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01:08:46,300 –> 01:08:49,700
joining hands with those who
repudiated the claims of Jesus,

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01:08:49,700 –> 01:08:52,100
to be the Christ.
So it’s leaving the truth.

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01:08:52,300 –> 01:08:55,600
In an extreme sense.
Those who had seen the power of

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01:08:55,800 –> 01:08:59,200
the Holy Spirit, going back to
Judaism had were really a

1313
01:08:59,600 –> 01:09:06,500
culpable level that, that
transcends ourselves, even I’ve

1314
01:09:06,500 –> 01:09:09,399
got to go through this, run out
of time, I’ll put these all on

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01:09:09,399 –> 01:09:11,800
the, on the, on the, on the
handout.

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01:09:11,800 –> 01:09:15,899
What I did, I just sat down with
my Bible, and a blank exercise

1317
01:09:15,899 –> 01:09:17,700
book.
I wrote a column and I’m going

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01:09:17,700 –> 01:09:19,300
to just go through the New
Testament.

1319
01:09:19,300 –> 01:09:22,399
I’m going to put on a list,
every positive versus about

1320
01:09:22,399 –> 01:09:24,800
salvation.
I’m going to list every – one

1321
01:09:24,800 –> 01:09:27,300
that seems to think that makes
salvation seem hard.

1322
01:09:27,500 –> 01:09:30,300
And I can tell you, if you do
that exercise, the positive

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01:09:30,399 –> 01:09:34,399
overwhelming – just buy
multiples at this.

1324
01:09:34,399 –> 01:09:36,100
There’s overwhelming the
positive.

1325
01:09:36,300 –> 01:09:39,899
From Romans 5 and Romans 8, and
Ephesians one day just so many

1326
01:09:39,899 –> 01:09:42,100
positive statement and they’re
not, they’re not qualified

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01:09:42,100 –> 01:09:43,800
statement to say you’ll be in
the Kingdom.

1328
01:09:43,800 –> 01:09:46,000
If you put enough money in the
bag, and if you do this and if

1329
01:09:46,008 –> 01:09:49,000
you go to the working videos and
well, Heritage colleagues, we

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01:09:49,008 –> 01:09:52,100
still might to say that, that is
one of the ones but that but

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01:09:52,100 –> 01:09:55,300
normally normally they’re not,
they’re not qualified in that

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01:09:55,300 –> 01:09:56,200
way.
They are because you’re in

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01:09:56,200 –> 01:09:58,900
Christ, these losing, we are
reconciled to God.

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01:09:58,900 –> 01:10:02,000
By Christ was saved by his life.
All these amazing positive

1335
01:10:02,000 –> 01:10:05,600
powerful statements that
literally drowning out the other

1336
01:10:06,200 –> 01:10:08,500
Warning ones or the negative
ones that appear there.

1337
01:10:10,100 –> 01:10:12,800
Okay, what do we take away from
out from a week together?

1338
01:10:14,500 –> 01:10:18,500
I hope that what we’ve talked
about is made us look forward to

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01:10:18,500 –> 01:10:21,100
the Judgment seat rather than
fearing it and looking at it

1340
01:10:21,100 –> 01:10:24,600
with Dread and Terror.
And I think these concepts of

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01:10:24,600 –> 01:10:27,700
search me o God, we want the
Judgment seat.

1342
01:10:27,700 –> 01:10:31,300
We want God to search us to look
at all the things that we have

1343
01:10:31,300 –> 01:10:34,500
wrong in our thinking and our
attitudes and to remove them and

1344
01:10:34,500 –> 01:10:38,000
to changes in the present, us
faultless before his presence it

1345
01:10:38,000 –> 01:10:41,900
leads us into the X rotational
aspect of, if we want that to

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01:10:41,900 –> 01:10:43,100
happen.
We really want that to happen.

1347
01:10:43,400 –> 01:10:46,400
Then we also can do that right
now in our life and we can

1348
01:10:46,400 –> 01:10:50,000
examine ourselves, and we can
get God’s word to even now, look

1349
01:10:50,000 –> 01:10:52,900
at our consciences and our
motives, and we can try, and be

1350
01:10:52,900 –> 01:10:56,300
pleasing to God in our life,
just to finish up to Quick

1351
01:10:56,300 –> 01:10:57,700
references.
I’ll read them out for you.

1352
01:10:59,000 –> 01:11:01,000
This is from Brother Melva
purchases book, the first

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01:11:01,000 –> 01:11:04,000
Epistle of John.
He’s quite on these two verses.

1354
01:11:04,500 –> 01:11:06,600
You know I just realize these
two verses what?

1355
01:11:06,600 –> 01:11:08,900
My whole studies hinge on.
I think we even have been read

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01:11:08,900 –> 01:11:11,800
them this week.
This is pretty bizarre to real

1357
01:11:11,800 –> 01:11:14,100
powerful verses.
In first John about confidence

1358
01:11:14,100 –> 01:11:18,200
that the Judgment seat and
brother Mel Burke is says we

1359
01:11:18,200 –> 01:11:20,900
sometimes hear Brethren and
sisters say that they’re fearful

1360
01:11:20,900 –> 01:11:23,700
of Christ’s coming.
Such apprehension is perhaps

1361
01:11:23,700 –> 01:11:27,500
understandable, but it is
needless if we abide in him.

1362
01:11:28,200 –> 01:11:30,200
If we bought him, we shall not,
we shall anticipate.

1363
01:11:30,200 –> 01:11:32,500
He’s coming with joy and
confidence.

1364
01:11:33,000 –> 01:11:34,900
It is true, that we are
absolutely Unworthy of the

1365
01:11:34,900 –> 01:11:36,200
blessings.
He has promised us.

1366
01:11:36,600 –> 01:11:40,200
However, we should not shrink
from Human shame at his cunning.

1367
01:11:40,600 –> 01:11:42,700
It is one of those glorious
truths which cannot be learnt

1368
01:11:42,700 –> 01:11:45,500
quickly or easily, but he’s
gradually apprehended during a

1369
01:11:45,500 –> 01:11:48,900
lifetime with the Lord.
So it’s more of a burka says

1370
01:11:49,500 –> 01:11:52,500
that that I find it very
powerful and the final one

1371
01:11:54,200 –> 01:11:58,000
coming on, first John four John
now, goes on to show us that At

1372
01:11:58,000 –> 01:12:01,100
living in the love of God.
There is no need for us to fear

1373
01:12:01,300 –> 01:12:03,900
the impending day of judgment.
There is no fear in love

1374
01:12:04,200 –> 01:12:08,400
perfect, love casts out fear, in
time past, great emphasis was

1375
01:12:08,400 –> 01:12:11,400
placed on fear.
It was almost used as a go to

1376
01:12:11,400 –> 01:12:16,100
drive men to obedience, sadly
and obedience to a system rather

1377
01:12:16,100 –> 01:12:19,700
than loyalty to God.
These ideas have left a lurking

1378
01:12:19,700 –> 01:12:23,100
dread in some Minds.
A drug which is kept Alive by

1379
01:12:23,100 –> 01:12:26,300
some passages of scripture taken
from its true context which we

1380
01:12:26,300 –> 01:12:27,800
have alluded to a few of them
now.

1381
01:12:28,600 –> 01:12:31,400
So hopefully those Concepts will
stay with us.

1382
01:12:31,400 –> 01:12:36,400
That these things should make us
want the judgment-seat to come.

1383
01:12:36,600 –> 01:12:38,000
That we want the return of
Christ.

1384
01:12:38,000 –> 01:12:41,600
When we apply the back porch,
test, next time I see you and

1385
01:12:41,600 –> 01:12:43,100
we’ve heard a noise in the
backyard.

1386
01:12:44,000 –> 01:12:46,200
Has it been accompanied by
dreading out in our hearts

1387
01:12:46,200 –> 01:12:47,400
thinking?
This could be the angel, this

1388
01:12:47,400 –> 01:12:50,400
could be the Judgment seat or
hasn’t been accompanied by joy

1389
01:12:50,400 –> 01:12:52,900
that this could be, the angel is
could be the Judgment seat.

1390
01:12:52,900 –> 01:12:55,600
Yeah, this is, this is the, this
is the hopefully, the Mind

1391
01:12:55,600 –> 01:12:59,500
change that we have started to
ER, and so, this beautiful quote

1392
01:12:59,500 –> 01:13:03,300
from Luke 12 just to finish up,
fear, not little flock for it,

1393
01:13:03,308 –> 01:13:05,700
is your father’s, good pleasure
to give you the kingdom.

1394
01:13:05,900 –> 01:13:06,500
Thanks everyone.