Dev Ramcharan – Class 3: Coping in a Fallen World

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This is day three of the 2022
Palm Springs.

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Bible School.
Our first period teacher is Deb.

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Ramjarin his General.
Subject is the whole duty of

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man.
Today’s topic is coping in a

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falling.
Fallen World.

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Excuse me.
Good morning.

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Brothers and sisters.
Did you all have a good night

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sleep?
Well, I don’t believe you

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because at your age that’s an
impossibility or a rarity a

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rarity at least.
So if you did have a good night

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sleep, that’s a wonderful
blessing.

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So the brother who are dear
brother, who is presiding this

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morning, had to come and
practice my name with me just to

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make sure he pronounced it
properly.

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It’s not an easy one and I was
in a somewhere in the east

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coast, Boston Baltimore, I’m not
sure where And I know it’s not

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pronounced Baltimore unless
you’re a foreigner.

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It’s polymer.
If you’re from Baltimore and he

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came up, he said, okay, let’s do
it again.

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Dev Dev, dad, Rapture, and he
must have done three or four

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times, and he was literally
sweating.

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I mean, I didn’t care what he
called me.

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So you went up there in front
of, you know, group of about 300

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christadelphians, is this
Gathering?

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He said, give me great pleasure
to announce brother, ramdev

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ashrams, his face turned sheet
white.

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He looked like he was going to
pass out, I thought it was

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funny.
He was so mortified, poor,

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brother.
I tell you, I don’t know how he

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got through it, but I’m sure he
did not hear a word.

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I said, four.
Session and his wife just you

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know stared sternly at him from
the front row for the ramdev

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ashram.
So we’re going to look now at

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Ecclesiastes 6 And then work our
way forward.

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Now, let me just remind you a
little bit about how things are

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put together in this book.
A they are the thoughts of a

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brother who has made some big
mistakes in his life.

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He’s had a lot more than most
people that he is ruled over

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have ever experienced.
It didn’t make him happy.

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There was always something he
was searching for and searching

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for and searching for so money
power.

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Women opportunities just didn’t
fill the void and he noticed he

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noticed that life had an
inherent hole in it.

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He looked at the world of the
way things work and he saw

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unfairness and so many different
ways.

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He also saw in unpredictability
He realized that you could be a

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good person or a righteous
person or a God-fearing person

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we know.
No one is good Christ.

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Said that, but a God-fearing
person and still have a really

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tough difficult, painful life.
You could be a wicked individual

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and have a trouble-free life and
so there wasn’t a

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predictability.
He saw based on how you behaved

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in this world.
But he realizes.

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In fits and starts.
It seems through the course of

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the writing of the book and the
capturing of these alternating

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thoughts that in the end, a life
of faith.

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Is the life.
That we need to subscribe to

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that.
We need to hold on to and that

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going and making our life in
this world, all about parties

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and laughter.
And merriment is ultimately an

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empty life.
The life of a Believer which in

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involves endurance patients, and
choosing to believe, and have

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faith in God is something that
we should all be trying to do.

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Am I the only one who’s hearing
bells or is this a problem?

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None in my head?
All right.

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Sounds like some kind of
tinkling jingling that’s going

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on.
So when we go through these

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chapters sometimes, he writes
from the point of view of a man

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of faith, Other time, he writes
from the point of view, of the

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darkening view towards the end
of life of a man of this world

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at an uncle, like that made a
very, very big success of his

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life dragged himself up out of
poverty.

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My dad’s brother Was very kind
to all of his brothers and

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sisters and their kids often had
young families who were nephews

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and nieces living free of charge
in houses that he owned just

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free because it was who he was.
He had a terribly hot temper

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when he got going.
And he would lose his temper and

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then it was over except for the
person with whom he had lost his

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temper. now they had to go and
get repaired somewhere after,

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but as his life went on, Fewer
and fewer people came and

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visited him.
Fewer and fewer people.

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Remember to come, say thank you
to him for all of his kindness.

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Everything the that he had done.
Even found this time goes by

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went by that.
The people that were closest to

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him, didn’t come to see him.
Not part of that, was because of

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his temper and his critical
nature.

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And so it tended to alienate
people with the problem was the

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people closest to him weren’t
there for him, as he was dying.

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And so all the money, all the
power, all the influence, all

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the adulation, all the hangers,
on all the people who benefited,

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none of that mattered at the end
of his life.

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Because what he experienced is,
what this man is describing in

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the Book of Ecclesiastes.
He’s describing the fact that in

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spite of everything that you get
and everything you can have

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apart from God, if your life is
only about what is Under the Sun

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on this Earth, It winds up being
an altogether, empty life.

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That’s the point he’s making.
Now this is Solomon.

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I believe it is Solomon and he
speaking to the congregation

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maybe not in one connected talk
but he would give pieces of this

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message.
He was talking to a culture that

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was all about materialism.
Yes, they believed in Yahweh,

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the god of Israel.
But they were all about the

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accumulation of wealth and we
see evidence of that because of

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the abundance of gold and silver
as its described During the

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period of Solomon.
And also the attitude of the men

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that grew up with rehoboam who
said no, no, no, you’re not

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going to go out to these people
and tell them that you’re going

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to ease up on the tax burden.
You’re going to tell them.

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You think it was hard under my
dad, it’s going to be twice as

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hard under me, because I’m
tougher stronger, and I’m going

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to require more of you than he
ever asked.

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Not in whose interest, was that
not the people’s?

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But in their personal interest
the accumulation of material

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wealth as rapidly as possible.
And of course it split the

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nation. because the man named
jeroboam who had fled for his

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life and then had come back into
the country at the death of

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Solomon who had grown up the son
of a widow and we’re told that

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deliberately for a reason, it
meant that he was a man who knew

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would poverty and hard times
were like He could have a sense

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of fellow feeling with people
who struggled to pay their

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taxes, who often had to sell
their kids into slavery so that

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they could pay the debts that
were incurred.

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As a result of the hardship of
the system of Taxation that was

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in place under Solomon.
He could relate to those who

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felt as if they’d been bruised
by an alienated from the

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leadership of the country.
And so he could speak to their

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hearts in a way that rehoboam
had grown up in the lap of

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luxury with his friends.
Could never hope to be able to

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speak to the people.
It is no wonder that he was able

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to take the majority of the
nation away with him.

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Because he could speak to their
sense of grievance.

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Their sense of having been taken
advantage of by the rich and

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Powerful, their sense of the
fact that the leaders did not

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give a hoot about them, and they
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It’s why they say those words.
Well, you look after yourself

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Judah.
They go their own way. but this

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Society under Solomon, Is
Afflicted with great materialism

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and we can relate to that, can’t
we?

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We can relate to that both for
ourselves having grown old in

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the society in times of
prosperity without War.

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That’s why this war is so
shocking to us because there has

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not been a war like this in
Europe since the Second World

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War, I know, there was the the
conflict in Yugoslavia, that

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occurred.
But a major power attacking

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another country in Europe, has
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Since the Germans did it?
The Czechoslovakia Poland France

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and so on and so forth.
So this is a, this is a this is

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almost an echo coming back from
some of your childhoods when you

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look back and you remember the
times when people had to tighten

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their belts because of the war
necessity and the way that

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Provisions were really hard to
get a hold of and there wasn’t a

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huge amount of Obesity was not a
problem at that time.

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Because nobody had a lot or a
lot to eat.

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So Solomon is talking to the
hearts of people who ultimately,

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didn’t listen. but his words
continue to move ours today

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because we can see an alignment
between what he is talking about

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and our own struggles in the
faith.

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So what does that mean then?
Believers have doubts.

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Doubt is a part of our life and
the truth.

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Yes, it is.
Yes, we do.

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There are times when we have
doubts, there are times when you

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struggle to make sense of what’s
happening.

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What God seems to be allowing or
doing in our lives, or the lives

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of those that we see around us
or even distant from us.

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You think of that brother and
his little boy in the Ukraine

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that Mark showed us in that
wonderful session last night.

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Hearts bleed for them.
Imagine what that must be like.

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And we see our children,
sometimes your children in their

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30s 40s, 50s, or even 60s and
70s, who have been so deeply

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affected by the materialism of
this age, as I have, and my

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generation.
And you look at that and you

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realize how do you live that and
live the truth at the same time?

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It’s hard.
It’s hard for us to serve both

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God and Mammon isn’t it?
But doubts.

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Doubt is a part of Faith.
What does that mean?

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We are going to have our
struggles and that make our

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decision in our struggle to say.
I may not understand that.

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I may not have the answer I’m
looking for for this, but I’m

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going to make a choice.
And I choose to believe God.

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I choose to have faith in him.
Oh, I can’t work out everything

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and get the answers.
I’m looking for for this that or

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the other issue problem or
situation.

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I choose God.
He’s never let me down till now.

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And I will continue to believe
in him.

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And so when our kids come to us
with their doubts, Sometimes we,

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we don’t tell them about our own
struggles in the face.

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But we have our struggles in the
faith, and we come back and we

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keep holding on.
So this this book is filled with

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am and struggles of the faith as
he wrestles with materialism.

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As he experiments with the
pleasures and the prosperity of

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his age. while, at the same
time, Observing himself.

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And those things that are
associated with, what is eternal

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Beyond Death beyond, what we
see.

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And feel today, It has only to
do with things.

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We have faith in.
Trust God, that he will

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accomplish.
So the book is so modern fact,

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many philosophers today.
See this as a book that aligns

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with 20th century philosophy, a
kind of philosophy that was

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called existentialism the dogs
about the fact that all we have

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here.
All we see here that’s all there

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is and the life of humanity is
altogether dark and ends in ends

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with nothingness, puts us into a
void with nothing Beyond And so

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philosophers of an existential
bent.

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Look at this book and say, oh
boy.

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This is an ancient book that
aligns with what we believe and

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they ignore all the bits that
talk about faith and God and

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holding on to God, So, it’s very
modern.

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But it’s also very truthful.
And it’s something that we could

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look at and relate to.
In parts of it, there seems to

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be a connected sequence of
thoughts and you can identify

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that sequence of thoughts.
In other words, in other parts

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of the book, it’s a collection
of sayings.

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And at the end of the book,
it’ll say that the preacher

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collected Proverbs.
And of course if Solomon wrote

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the Proverbs, which I also
believe he did.

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Well, it’s a collection of
things that he put together as

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pieces of wisdom.
Sometimes they look like they’re

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in conflict with each other.
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us to do is to say to ourselves,
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And we interpret each of these
based on circumstances to

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understand how one thing could
be sent in one way at a certain

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point in the book and then in an
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And another part of the book, so
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then There is an evil, which I
have seen where Under the Sun on

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the earth in this Earthly life
and it is common among men, a

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man to whom God has given riches
wealth and honor so that he

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doesn’t lack anything.
And he has everything he could

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want.
And yet he doesn’t have the

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power to eat thereof but someone
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And that can happen in this
world work work.

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Work, work work, work work and
not enjoy what you’ve worked for

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and what you’ve been able to
acquire as a result and then you

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hand it off to someone who
enjoys it all and frittered Away

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with zero work whatsoever.
Now Solomon seems to have this

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coming up in his mind all the
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He’s worried about rehoboam and
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kingdom to his possessions to
the accumulation.

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Well, that has given him the
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Etc, etc.
What’s this, boy?

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This man going to do when I’m
gone.

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So he’s reflecting on these
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He says, look if you have 100
children, so that the days of

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your years be many, but your
soul is not filled with good and

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in the end nobody even gives you
a decent burial.

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Then he says somebody who is an
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he, He comes in with vanity and
he departs in darkness and his

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name shall be covered with
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Moreover, he hath not seen the
sun nor known anything this hath

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more rest than the other.
A miscarried baby is better off

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than a man who had all this
wealth.

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Never enjoyed it and handed it
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That’s what he’s saying.
It’s a pretty dark view, isn’t

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it?
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for all of Solomon’s, wisdom and
all of his possessions and all

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of his might get a hard time,
really enjoying what he had.

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When going to drop down now.
Verse 9 better is the site of

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the eyes, then the wandering of
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Now, what could that possibly
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This is what it means.
It’s better to want what you

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have than to have what you want.
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And desire it and be grateful
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Then to be continually wanting
more and more, and more, and

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more, and more and more.
And the way everything is set up

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today, Amazon, eBay and Cetera,
etc, etc.

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These things just promote the
wanting more, I know, because

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I’ve affected by that.
You must be to, for those of you

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who like technology, well, it’s
both a curse and a blessing,

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isn’t it?
How many of you have felt that

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you really do need to get that
new iPhone every two years?

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I’m talking about you kids in
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You Lads and lasses.
And they’ve even built the thing

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so that they start to
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could.
In fact, last you for 10 years,

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But they made it so that Things
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So you continually have to buy
something new and buy something

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new by something new and buy
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It’s just the way things have
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Better is the site of the eyes
what you could see what you have

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then the continual wondering of
the desire for more and more and

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more.
He says this look this also is

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is emptiness and a striving
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So what are we striving after?
You know, that feeling

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youngsters when your Amazon box
arrives and you have bring it in

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and they’re even on YouTube
videos of what they call

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unboxing.
How stupid is that a person

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films?
15 minutes of himself opening

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the box?
He hasn’t even seen the thing in

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it yet.
Now, I take our knife when I’m

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cut.
As you can see, I’m cutting the

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Box G, they have good tape on
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It’s the lunacy of this age.
What is the wind?

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We’re chasing, happiness.
You feel happy and then it’s

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unboxed use it once near later,
side.

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Whatever the thing is, right.
Whatever.

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The thing is, I like music and I
like something that’s really

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old.
It’s called a CD, right?

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It’s all today.
Now do used to be that if you

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had to buy the kind of music.
I like, do I know if told you

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about this Rolling Stones, it’s
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That’s the stuff I grew up with.
Stones The Beatles, Led

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Zeppelin, you remember it?
And I know you may not know any

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of those punk, rock groups,
within appropriate names, and so

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on and so forth.
But I learned all about learn to

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love, classical music and Jazz.
Now, what would happen is you’d

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buy one Jazz CD.
It might cost you $15.

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Today, you can get 150 Jazz CDs
in one box for $100.

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So what we paid for those
things. 25 years ago, 30 years

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ago, 40 years ago is, is like
nothing today.

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So what do you think that’s
going to do to somebody like me?

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Oh no.
I won’t do that.

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That’s that’s gritty
inappropriate.

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There is a room I have.
You can barely walk into because

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of boxes of CDs.
I do not have enough time in my

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lifetime to listen to But the
the urge to accumulate I can get

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the complete works of Mozart for
$150.

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Yes I’m getting that it’s still
in its plastic in that room

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because that’s what our
materialistic age is doing to us

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and knows our weakness.
It knows our Frailty marketers

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know how to hook us and pull us
in.

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And so, the accumulation
accumulation is all about a

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fitful desire to find, happiness
through things and we might get

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a momentary bump up, but then it
Peters out it just it just goes

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away and I know my daughters
will throw every CD I own into

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the garbage dump.
Every one of them not one single

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CD will be left, right?
So in actual fact, the true

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worth of those things they will
demonstrate right.

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Those things that made me so
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And for every brother and sister
is a different thing might be

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sewing.
Supplies for the thing he will

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never ever get around to sewing,
right?

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But boy, do you have the best
thread or if you’re a nature,

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the best?
That person could possibly have

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all the way from Turkey from
sheep that were hunted down on

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the whatever, right?
Right, and cars brothers and

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their cars, right?
Yes, like think about it this

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way.
Everybody’s thing that they have

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that you don’t have is a
ridiculous and silly Obsession.

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They have those people over
there in that thing, but mine’s

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a serious collection thing.
With meaning and importance,

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even if it’s like Marvel comic
books from the 1960s, right?

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Oh, sorry.
I think I must have touched a

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nerve for a couple.
Couple of the youngsters in the

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back there.
Captain America episode of way.

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So let’s drop down then to
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He says, look a good name, a
good reputation, a good

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character.
Is better than precious

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ointment.
Now, what why would he would you

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put those two things together?
Because when a woman is in your

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presence and has that kind of
Great Character, you won’t know

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it right off the bat.
But if she has a precious

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ointment on, you will know it
from yards away from her before

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you even reach there.
And so what are you saying?

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Is the showi outward, things,
the luxurious, whatever of our

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of our life today is empty.
What is more important is

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character?
It’s been well said for our

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kids.
I know you’re all thinking along

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these lines.
You, what are you going to leave

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your kids.
What is what was more important

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than what you leave for?
Your kids is what you leave in

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your kids.
Would you live in in your kids,

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what you’ve taught them, how you
raise them, the character that

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they’ve developed, what what
you, what you taught them was

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most important, even if for now,
they look like they’ve walked

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away from it.
What you’ve left in them, is

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more important than anything,
you could leave them to spend or

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live in or, or hold on to
because all those things will

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Drift Away into the ether when
what you’ve left.

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In them will always be in them
even a child that walks away

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from our faith.
We’ll have in them things that

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we raise them with hard work,
dedication, honesty Integrity,

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that marks them as different to
the people in this world and

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don’t mourn about your kids.
Having left the truth or not in

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the truth because where there is
life, there is hope.

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There’s a woman who came back to
the meeting in her 80s in

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Toronto.
We were doing a campaign and

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going out and inviting people
who had been to the learn to

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read the Bible seminar series
and stop coming.

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So a couple of us were paired up
and knocked on a house and and a

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woman came out who was in her
80s and we said, look, we were

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inviting you to to a special
lecture for people who at some

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point in time have come to the
seminar series.

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And we’d like to invite you, she
said the strangest thing.

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She said, why you don’t usually
do that?

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Please come in.
She made us a pot of tea and we

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had some cookies, and, and some
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She said, actually, I am the
daughter of the recording,

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brother of the Church Street,
Ecclesia. and in the 1940s when

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I married outside of the truth,
The arranging board.

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The arranging Brethren.
Sent me a blistering letter and

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I left the truth.
I used to bring my daughters to

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the cyc, but after a while
because their mom and dad

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weren’t in the truth, the kids
really didn’t treat them all

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that well.
So they stopped coming too.

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Now, this sister’s name was
Margaret.

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Kempthorne Margaret came back in
in her 80s.

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Made a special trip down to
Church Street Ecclesia.

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So she could visit the hall with
those Brethren and their

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children long dead so that she
could just go there and forgive

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what had been done.
Geez to worry. what is going to

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happen to my little girls and
they were 60s going into 70.

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She died in her 90s and directly
after her death.

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One of her girls was baptized in
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In her 70s.
So he might think what’s going

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to happen to my kids.
I’ve lost everything.

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I wish I’d raise them
differently, I wish I was there

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more all the things that parents
torture themselves with.

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There isn’t a mistake, your
child makes as a.

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Full-grown art adult that you
don’t blame yourself for for

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some degree.
If I’d raise them differently,

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if I given him more love, less
discipline more, this more that

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we all do that.
It’s what we do as parents. but

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remember, Though he may not have
chosen God, or he may have

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walked away from God, God
brought that child into the

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world.
God is still working in his

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life.
And where there is life.

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There’s always the hope that
through tragedy.

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Through the Advent of Common
Sense through a yearning for

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something that’s more meaningful
when he looks at The Emptiness

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of life, when you have
everything you ever wanted and

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realize you have nothing.
It somehow God will bring him

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around back into his truth.
Pray for that.

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I know we should be looking at
these chapters but there’s one

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more thing I just want to
mention to you, Start working on

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having a good death.
What do I mean by that?

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Model for your children,
forgiveness.

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Model for your children, faith.
And trust in God.

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Model for your children, the
recognition that this life that

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we have, even with all the pain
and suffering that comes at the

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end of this, of the end of it,
this is not all we have.

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That there’s something better.
There’s something coming and

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that when I close my eyes, I
open them almost instantaneously

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and I’m standing at somebody’s
feet. and that you may have to

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live your life son for another
30, 40, 50 years, But I will be

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right at his feet.
Hoping for his Mercy.

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And his grace.
An entry into his kingdom.

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Let this stage of your life as
you go towards and used as you

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00:31:14,400 –> 00:31:19,200
get to those last days.
Not be about disappointment or

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00:31:19,200 –> 00:31:23,600
bitterness or Hertz and Wrongs
that you still feel.

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That all that stuff.
Go.

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Let it go and have a good death.
Because how you die?

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We’ll teach your child about
what was most important to you.

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00:31:41,200 –> 00:31:45,300
And could draw their minds back
into the future.

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00:31:46,400 –> 00:31:52,200
In to what’s most important. or,
they might think, you know, Mom

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00:31:52,200 –> 00:31:57,900
was in so much pain.
I could barely look at what she

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00:31:57,900 –> 00:32:01,700
was going through.
But you kept on talking about

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00:32:01,700 –> 00:32:05,700
God.
She kept on talking about the

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00:32:05,700 –> 00:32:09,400
kingdom.
She kept on telling me, son.

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00:32:11,100 –> 00:32:15,200
You have to forgive your sister.
And make peace.

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00:32:17,500 –> 00:32:19,700
Because that’s what God would
want you to do.

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00:32:21,200 –> 00:32:24,500
And if there’s a Last Wish I
have, if I want you to honor

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00:32:26,100 –> 00:32:28,100
It’s to make peace with your
siblings.

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00:32:30,800 –> 00:32:35,100
I have let go everything.
It was in my mind.

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00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:40,400
Creating a problem for me.
All the hurts.

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Everything that offended me.
What this one or that one did to

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00:32:45,800 –> 00:32:48,400
me?
what I could have had, and

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00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:55,100
didn’t have I let it all go.
Because I want to be like

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00:32:55,100 –> 00:32:58,600
Christ.
Because I know that the happiest

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00:32:58,600 –> 00:33:01,500
condition I can be in in all
this pain.

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Is with a kind of thinking.
That is about Grace and Hope.

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00:33:11,700 –> 00:33:16,000
And a future that I know is
coming with all my being, I’ve

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00:33:16,000 –> 00:33:20,300
got to get through this pain.
After close my eyes one day.

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00:33:21,900 –> 00:33:24,600
But I want you to think about
these things.

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So you might think what have you
got to give your kids at this

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00:33:28,200 –> 00:33:31,700
stage, you can give them a good
death.

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And it means those things.
So that they know what was most

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important, it’s the last
preaching campaign, you will be

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00:33:43,700 –> 00:33:48,800
on.
And it could save someone’s life

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00:33:48,800 –> 00:33:52,500
that you love.
Margaret is going to stand up at

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00:33:52,500 –> 00:33:56,300
the Judgment seat of look over.
And see someone.

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She didn’t expect would be
there.

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Can you imagine the joy of that
moment?

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00:34:04,100 –> 00:34:07,200
All right, then.
Back into chapter 7.

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Verse form, the heart of the
wise is in the house of

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mourning.
Not at the house of delight of

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partying of noise of festivity
though.

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00:34:22,500 –> 00:34:27,900
Heart of the wise is in the
house of mourning does it does

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00:34:27,900 –> 00:34:33,000
that mean that we’re
death-obsessed know, but it

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00:34:33,000 –> 00:34:36,800
means that when we Are at a
funeral.

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We’re in a time of deep
reflection.

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Looking within and thinking
through where we are taking

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00:34:46,699 –> 00:34:50,500
stock of where our heart is
located.

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What our mind is focused on.
Where we need to be.

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00:34:56,900 –> 00:34:59,400
Now, you may look at it that way
and say okay this is talking

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00:34:59,400 –> 00:35:01,800
about other people’s funerals.
Yes.

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But think about the house of
mourning being the memorial

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00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:11,400
meeting, you and I are in every
every week.

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Where we reflect on the man who
gave his life for us.

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We think about the love.
The obedience.

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00:35:26,900 –> 00:35:30,700
The suffering.
The compassion.

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00:35:32,600 –> 00:35:37,200
The empathy.
The Deep rapport.

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00:35:38,500 –> 00:35:42,400
Between a man who had nothing
but his faith.

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00:35:44,100 –> 00:35:48,000
And his belief in God.
And his love for him.

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00:35:49,600 –> 00:35:53,200
And his love for people, he had
not even ever met during his

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lifetime. we think and we we in
that house of mourning, remember

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00:36:01,600 –> 00:36:08,500
his example that he said for us,
And then we have the uplift of

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remembering in that house of
mourning that it was the pathway

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00:36:14,000 –> 00:36:17,500
that led to eternal life for
him.

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00:36:20,000 –> 00:36:24,400
So, his suffering had meaning.
What he went through, what he

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endured had purpose in it.
And it’s the same for you.

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But we go through what we suffer
is not meaningless, stuff that

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00:36:38,200 –> 00:36:41,900
happens to us by chance
randomly.

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00:36:43,500 –> 00:36:48,500
God is at work.
Verse 14 of chapter 7, he says,

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00:36:49,100 –> 00:36:51,500
in the day of prosperity, be
joyful.

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00:36:52,400 –> 00:36:58,500
But in the day of adversity,
consider God hath.

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00:36:58,500 –> 00:37:07,100
Even made the one side by side
with the other to the end, that

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00:37:07,100 –> 00:37:11,600
man should not find out anything
that shall be after him.

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00:37:12,100 –> 00:37:17,400
What does that mean?
God has deliberately put Happy

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00:37:17,400 –> 00:37:22,500
Days and sad days into our life.
So that we have no choice.

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00:37:24,000 –> 00:37:28,700
But to reach out to him and hope
so that we can’t predict, we

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00:37:28,700 –> 00:37:31,400
don’t always know how things are
going to go.

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00:37:31,700 –> 00:37:36,400
That’s in his hands.
Our responsibility.

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00:37:37,700 –> 00:37:42,000
Is to trust in him. and when
things are going well, that’s

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00:37:42,000 –> 00:37:45,400
the last time we’re reaching out
to the almighty because things

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00:37:45,400 –> 00:37:50,500
are going well, But our aches,
or pains our troubles are

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00:37:50,500 –> 00:37:53,700
heartbreaks, they drive us to
God.

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00:37:55,500 –> 00:38:01,500
They drive us to cry out to him
to get close to him, to draw

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00:38:01,500 –> 00:38:06,200
him, close to us.
That that’s what this is saying.

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00:38:07,000 –> 00:38:08,700
In those good days.
We rejoice.

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00:38:09,800 –> 00:38:14,900
But know that God has spliced
into our lives.

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00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:19,700
Those darker threads that come
up and out into the tapestry.

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00:38:21,700 –> 00:38:30,500
Tragedy trauma loss grief,
betrayal disappointment

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00:38:31,100 –> 00:38:35,700
heartache.
He’s allowed and sometimes put

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00:38:35,700 –> 00:38:42,000
those things there to drive us
to him. and to keep him in our

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00:38:42,000 –> 00:38:49,400
minds and in our hearts, He goes
on and we read in verse 19

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00:38:50,300 –> 00:38:55,900
wisdom strengthens the wise more
than 10 Mighty Men, which are in

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00:38:55,900 –> 00:38:59,400
the city for.
There’s not a just man upon

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00:38:59,400 –> 00:39:05,400
Earth that doeth good and Sins,
Not So for people, that believe

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00:39:05,500 –> 00:39:09,800
outside, that it is possible to
live a life without sin.

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00:39:11,000 –> 00:39:15,800
Well God doesn’t agree with you.
Because God inspired Solomon to

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00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:18,900
write this.
And the same way as God inspired

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00:39:18,900 –> 00:39:22,300
the Lord to say there is none.
Good, not one.

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00:39:22,500 –> 00:39:27,100
Why are you calling me good?
And he was the Lord Jesus

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00:39:27,100 –> 00:39:32,900
Christ.
So sin sin is part and parcel of

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00:39:32,900 –> 00:39:34,900
our life and the experience of
it.

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00:39:35,900 –> 00:39:39,200
Verse 23, all this have.
I proved by wisdom and I said I

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00:39:39,200 –> 00:39:45,700
will be wise, I was far from me,
it was for that, Which is far

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00:39:45,700 –> 00:39:50,400
off and exceeding deep, who can
find it out, I cannot figure.

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00:39:50,400 –> 00:39:54,300
God, out I’ve tried.
And I’ve tried, I can’t figure

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00:39:54,300 –> 00:39:57,100
him out.
That’s deliberate.

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00:39:58,200 –> 00:40:00,400
God does not want to be figured
out by you.

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00:40:01,800 –> 00:40:06,000
God wants you to trust him.
And believe in him.

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00:40:07,400 –> 00:40:13,700
And have confidence in him.
It says verse 27.

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00:40:14,700 –> 00:40:21,900
Look, this is something I found
Counting things up, one-by-one

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00:40:21,900 –> 00:40:23,900
to figure things out and how
they work.

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00:40:25,800 –> 00:40:29,300
He says.
I’ve looked all around.

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00:40:30,100 –> 00:40:36,800
I have not found one wise man
among a thousand.

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00:40:38,900 –> 00:40:41,200
And then sisters, fasten your
seatbelts okay.

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00:40:43,300 –> 00:40:46,600
Please do not elbow the poor man
beside you.

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00:40:47,500 –> 00:40:52,000
That’s sharp elbow of yours but
a woman among all those have I

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00:40:52,000 –> 00:40:53,600
not found now.
Stop stop.

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00:40:53,600 –> 00:40:57,700
Stop stop.
I know Sister Toni is ready to

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00:40:57,700 –> 00:41:00,700
throw her him book right up to
the front right now.

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00:41:03,200 –> 00:41:07,800
What he’s saying is this?
Why is people are exceedingly

554
00:41:07,800 –> 00:41:10,900
difficult?
I felt so few of them, did he?

555
00:41:10,900 –> 00:41:13,400
Not believe that.
There were women who were wise?

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00:41:13,800 –> 00:41:18,400
Well, he wrote Proverbs 31.
All about the virtuous woman.

557
00:41:20,600 –> 00:41:23,500
It could be that the kind of
women, he surrounded himself

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00:41:23,500 –> 00:41:34,900
with 700 wives and 300,
concubines that’s girls, you

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00:41:34,900 –> 00:41:39,400
play around with and don’t have
a close relationship with 1,000.

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00:41:40,100 –> 00:41:45,100
He collected them like stamps
and just like stamps or passing

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00:41:45,200 –> 00:41:47,600
third one there yet, let’s look
at the next page.

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00:41:49,500 –> 00:41:52,200
No relationship.
This was an altogether.

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00:41:52,200 –> 00:41:57,600
Lonely, man.
He found very few wise people

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00:41:58,300 –> 00:42:01,100
and of the women he accumulated
will wisdom was not an

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00:42:01,100 –> 00:42:02,500
attribute.
He was looking for.

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00:42:03,200 –> 00:42:07,700
No wonder, he couldn’t find one.
But he knew that they were out

567
00:42:07,700 –> 00:42:12,100
there. throughout scripture, we
have wonderful Wise, Women

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00:42:12,500 –> 00:42:19,300
starting with Eve, And all the
way through to our sisters here

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00:42:19,300 –> 00:42:22,400
in this room.
Right beside you, brother.

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00:42:23,500 –> 00:42:28,000
Right beside you.
Now, some stupid

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00:42:28,000 –> 00:42:32,700
christadelphians interpreters
have taken that to mean that men

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00:42:32,700 –> 00:42:36,000
are naturally more wise than
women and wisdom.

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00:42:36,300 –> 00:42:43,000
Wisdom is lacking in sisters.
That is an altogether idiotic

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00:42:43,000 –> 00:42:45,900
man.
Who wrote that I will not

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00:42:45,900 –> 00:42:48,500
dignify that with anything other
than the disease of.

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00:42:48,800 –> 00:42:54,100
He’s just a fool.
And it betrays a mindset towards

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00:42:54,100 –> 00:42:58,200
women that will then play itself
out and how he treats his wife,

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00:42:58,400 –> 00:43:02,500
his daughters, his mother, his
sisters, and the women in the

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00:43:02,500 –> 00:43:06,600
Ecclesia.
We could not make it without our

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00:43:06,600 –> 00:43:10,200
sisters.
Sisters are like nurses and the

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00:43:10,200 –> 00:43:14,200
Healthcare System.
It isn’t the fancy surgeons and

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00:43:14,200 –> 00:43:17,700
their big fat Eagles who hold
the Healthcare System together.

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00:43:18,500 –> 00:43:22,900
It is the nurses.
That’s the same with our sisters

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00:43:22,900 –> 00:43:27,300
in our colleges.
And in our families and in our

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00:43:27,300 –> 00:43:31,500
lives and so whatever.
He may have written in that

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00:43:31,500 –> 00:43:36,200
moment of peak, remember he
wrote it as a flawed individual

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00:43:36,200 –> 00:43:38,400
God lets it stay right in the
text.

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00:43:39,500 –> 00:43:44,200
It’s right there for us to see.
We are surrounded by Wise Women.

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00:43:45,200 –> 00:43:48,400
And Men, We need to be grateful
for them.

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00:43:49,600 –> 00:43:54,400
We need to honor them.
We need to seek their counsel to

591
00:43:54,400 –> 00:43:57,900
advise their feedback, their
input.

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00:43:57,900 –> 00:44:02,600
Yes, the buck stops with us.
We cannot throw that yoke off

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00:44:02,600 –> 00:44:08,800
our necks. but we need to treat
our sisters as partners in our

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00:44:08,800 –> 00:44:12,300
Ecclesia has They have much to
offer.

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00:44:13,500 –> 00:44:17,800
Much wisdom to share.
Solomon, didn’t have any like

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00:44:17,800 –> 00:44:21,800
that around him.
Every Ecclesia is filled with

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00:44:21,800 –> 00:44:22,600
women like that.