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Welcome to the good Chris selfie
and talks podcast.

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I’m this week, we have brother.
Tim Badger.

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He gave me Series 2 into the
Thousand Oaks Ecclesia at their

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study weekend in California and
his title.

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For the series was closer to
God, the specific class were

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looking at is honor the sun.
This was during the New school

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session.
We actually also listen to a

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series by brother, Tim on the
general subject of Philippians

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at the Perth, young people’s
gathering in 2017.

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He has a class in there that was
basically the same topic, the

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elevation of Christ, but we
liked this version a little

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better.
So this is a very encouraging

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and motivating class.
Tim highlights.

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That is impossible to elevate
the sun beyond the father and

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recognizing him is alive and
working.

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Today has a massive impact on
our daily walks.

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I feel like Tim is All subdued
in the first half and there’s a

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significant raise in volume and
passion in the second half.

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He really gets into it.
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we did.
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So here we go.
Tim Badger.

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Honor the Sun for the title of
our study school.

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This morning is on honor.
Of the Sun and that phrase is

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taken from a passage in John
chapter 5, but we won’t go there

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yet.
I’d like to read you a quote

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that I love from Fairly
well-known historian.

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His name is Philip schaff and he
had one of some of his works

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that are notable are written on
church history.

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And in one of those histories,
he takes an attempt at

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summarizing the greatness of
Jesus Christ.

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Let me read it to you.
It’s a beautiful quote, Jesus of

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Nazareth, without a money, in
arms, conquered more.

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Millions that Alexander the
Great Caesar Muhammad and the

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pulley with science and
learning.

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He shed more light on things,
human, and divine, and all

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philosophers and Scholars
combined with out of the

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eloquence of school.
He spoke such words of life as

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were never spoken before or
since Bruce effects, which lie

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beyond the reach of orator or
poet without writing a single

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line, you said more pens in
motion and furnish themes.

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For more sermons orations
discussions, learning volumes

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works of art and songs of praise
and the whole Army of Ancient

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and modern times.
Now I love that because that’s a

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fantastic attempt, trying to
encapsulate, the greatness and

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the influence of the Lord, Jesus
Christ Through the Ages and it’s

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interesting because obviously,
Say for us we know that Christ

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is the focal point of everything
in our faith.

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That’s how God has designed it.
And if we look at our own

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community over time, we’ve
always preached that and we’ve

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always held that dear to us.
So even in our own hymn book,

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The Green hymn book in that in
book alone, we have nine

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sections, revolving around the
Lord, Jesus Christ, hymns

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concerning or to the Lord, Jesus
Christ.

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That’s 30% of our hymn book of
hymns that are centered around.

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That and back in 1997 in the
crew selfie magazine.

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When the hymn book was being put
together.

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A number of brothers were on
that committee putting things

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together and going through the
review of the hymn book from the

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Brotherhood.
And this is what they run with

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yourself magazine.
Concerning the hymns in those

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sections, concerning Christ,
they may be acclamations.

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So for example, sing praise, the
tomb is void statement

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addressing certain truths about
Christ, for example, Thou Art

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the way appeals for divine.
This has to be fulfilled such as

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the return of Christ.
Lord, we wait the time of

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blessing or expressions of
heartfelt.

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Thanks was it for Me by flesh
was wounded sore and all of

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those are hymns.
That relate to Lord, Jesus

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Christ and they put him in his
rightful position as the center

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of our faith by God’s design.
So what Philip schaff is done in

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his little quote that I’ve read
to you this morning is tried to

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capture some that.
But when we look at the word of

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God business, There’s more going
to do that this morning.

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We want to understand.
Well, what does God say about

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his son?
Because sometimes it’s, it’s

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easy in the whole kind of
culture of Christianity that we

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live in to, to be a little bit
more confused on where Christ

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position is sometimes.
We might react because the

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churches have made him part of
the Trinity and God himself.

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And so we want to be careful, of
course, and rightly.

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So of falling into that,
teaching in that Doctrine We

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have to be careful to have the
balance of scripture on where

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Christ is and his position when
you come to John chapter 5 the

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greatness of Christ.
From scripture point of view and

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not be underestimated in, this
is fitting thing to do on a

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Sunday morning because it just
helps us all the more in our

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preparations.
For getting this morning.

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Look at what John chapter 5
says.

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Now we’re going honey in at
verse 16 but just before this

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evening, John chapter 5 there
was the healing of The Man Who

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Loved Bethesda. when Jesus said
to him in verse 8, rise, take up

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your bed and walk No, the Jews
were angry but what happened.

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So verse 16.
We could look what it says.

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This reason, the Jews
persecuted, Jesus and sought to

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kill him because of what had
happened with this man.

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What he done?
And because he done these things

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on the Sabbath, the Jesus
answered them.

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So they’re challenging Christ.
And Jesus answered them says, my

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father has been working until
now and I have been working

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there for The Jews sought all
the more to kill him because he

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not only broke the Sabbath, but
he also said that God was his

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father making himself as they
thought equal with God.

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Now, if there was ever a point
at this is our classic first

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principles passage that we could
go to.

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If there was ever a point where
Jesus could confirm the Trinity

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and their understanding, it was
right here because said yes,

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that’s exactly what I’m saying.
And that it would have been all

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along Jews versus Christ.
But he doesn’t say that.

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In fact, he corrects their
understanding, but in a way

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that’s actually quite amazing
for us to get a handle on.

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So they get all upset and
they’re in, they’re angry

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because of what he, what he’s
done and that he’s making

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himself equal with God.
So they think look at how Jesus

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responds verse 19.
Jesus answered and said to them,

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most assuredly, I say to you.
The son can do nothing of

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himself.
Well what he sees the father do

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from whatever he does the son
also does like matter.

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So clearly Jesus is saying from
an equality point of view.

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No I’m not cleaning to equal to
my father but that’s not the end

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of the story.
Verse 24, The Father loves the

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son and shows him all things
that he himself does.

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And you’ve got to imagine being
the group of Jews in this

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situation and receive the words
of Christ and you could just see

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the temperature like going out
because the More and more angry

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at what he’s saying, all of this
connection, The Father loves the

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son.
Can you say such things,

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although he’s not claiming to be
equal to God.

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He’s definitely claiming a close
relationship with him and that

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angers the Jews, all the more in
this section.

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So first 20, The Father loves
the son and shows him all things

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that he himself does and he will
show him Greater Works than

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these that you met marble for
and he just keeps going.

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If that’s not already intense
enough, he says in verse Verse

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21 for as the father, raises the
dead and gives life to them with

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the Jews would nod and say, yes,
that’s, that’s possible.

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At least some of the, the sex of
the Jews, even so the son gives

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life to whom he will.
Now, imagine those words falling

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on this audience, For, I want us
to notice first 22.

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The Father judges.
No one.

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But has committed all judgment.
The son and brother sisters.

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I don’t know if you’ve ever
thought about the implication of

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that verse verse 22 Jesus in his
ministry, is illustrating to the

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Jews, his position, as the Son
of God.

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And he says, to them in his
ministry, the father judges, no

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one all judgment has been
committed to the sun.

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That’s an extraordinary thing
for us to think about, and

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particularly this morning as we
examine ourselves.

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The father has given that whole
role of discernment and judgment

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in the hearts of men to his son.
The Lord Jesus Christ and we

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know he is the judge when he
returns to the Earth but he’s

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the judge now is well What’s
going on in our hearts and

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Minds.
Now look at verse 23, and this

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is where the title for our
considerations mornings come

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from.
That all should honor the son

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just as they honor the father,
he who does not honor.

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The son does not honor.
The father who sent me now

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that’s something that’s worthy
of our reflection and thinking

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about this morning, and every
day and our discipleship, the

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Jesus said everyone should honor
the son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Just as in the sense of that is
in the same capacity to same

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degree to which we honor the
father And if you don’t honor

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the son that you cannot honor
the father.

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Now that’s an incredible
statement by the Lord.

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Jesus Christ will still in his
ministry to the Jews.

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No, he was not claiming
equality, but as far as honor

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goes, and he’s privileged
position as a Son of God.

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He is saying that I am deserving
of just the same honor as my

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father.
Now, that that concept brothers

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and sisters only really truly
make sense with an understanding

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of God manifestation, that the
sun was a complete embodiment of

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the character and the will of
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And that’s something I want us
to be challenged by this morning

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and think about our honor of the
son, the Lord Jesus Christ in

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our, in our life that it needs
to be just the same as we honor.

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The father who sent him now,
what do you think about it?

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Think?
Well, how else do we know in?

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That the sun is to be honored
when the like Philip schaff,

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still description of Christ is
great, but how does God

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described his son?
Well, here’s an example, where

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Jesus is on teaching describes
that but, well, how does God

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described his son and this is
something that I want us to just

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think about this morning.
Now, do something possibly

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unusual.
But I do this for a reason.

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I’m going to read to you by the
sisters.

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All of The titles and
descriptions that belong to the

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Lord, Jesus Christ that we find
in the record of scripture.

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And if the purpose of doing,
this is exactly in a lot of John

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chapter 5 to just soak in this
morning, just to go to soak it

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in and realize this supreme
place that God has by Design

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given to his son, the Lord Jesus
Christ.

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So incorporating some of those
titles and descriptions that

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we’ve already had coming from
Isaiah and other places here is

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how he is described by the
father, is called The Advocate

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in first John.
P2, is the almighty in

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Revelation, 1:8 the Alpha and
the Omega.

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He’s described in Psalm Psalm 15
or 16 as altogether.

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Lovely.
Is the Almond of Revelation 3.

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The anointed of some to Apostle
arm of the Lord is the author

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and finisher of our faith.
He’s the author of Eternal

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salvation is the beginning and
the end, and I just want you to

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stop these.
In just appreciate the lengths

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to, which God goes to describe
the position of his son in a

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Plan of Redemption.
He’s the beginning of the

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creation of God, the Beloved,
the beloved Son, Bishop Branch

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bread of God, bread of life,
bridegroom, bright and Morning

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Star, and he’s the brightness of
the father’s glory.

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In Hebrews chapter 1, he’s the
captain of Salvation.

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He’s the chief Shepherd, the
Chief Cornerstone and he’s

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chiefest among ten thousand.
He’s the chosen of God Christ,

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the Christ Christ, a king
Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus, our

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Lord Christ of God, Christ of
the Lord Christ.

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The Chosen of God Christ, the
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the commander and I as I 55 is
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Cornerstone counselor and the
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In Jeremiah chapter 30.
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the deliverer and the door and
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That’s amazing.
He’s the elect of God Emmanuel

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and he’s the end sign of Isaiah.
He is eternal life.

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First, John chapter 5 and He’s
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Isaiah 9 verse 6.
He’s faithful and true.

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Is the faithful witness faithful
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And last, he’s the first begun
the first begotten from the

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dead.
The first form the firstborn

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from the dead firstborn of every
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the Forerunner, the foundation,
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in John 15.
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gone, Psalm 45, John, 10 in
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Goddamn, it has the Good
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The great Shepherd of the sheep,
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the head of every man had at the
Ecclesia.

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How did the corner headstone,
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high priest of good things to
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confession is higher than the
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He’s highly exalted and he’s
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Whom my soul loves his son.
Holy Child.

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Jesus, Holy One.
Holy, One Of God is Holy and he

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is the Horn of Salvation.
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8, he is the image of God image
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God is Jesus, Jesus Christ,
Jesus Christ, Our Lord, Jesus

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Christ, Our Savior, Jesus of
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Jews judge of the living and the
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The just man, that just wanted
to just person.

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He’s the king, the king of
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the king of saints, the King of
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king of Zion and he is, King
over all the Earth and Zechariah

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The We’ve gone last Adam, the
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light to the Gentiles.
Living bread, living Stone Lion

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of the tribe of Judah, which we
read this morning.

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He’s the Lord Lord and Savior,
Jesus Christ.

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Lord Christ.
Lord From Heaven, Lord, Jesus,

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Lord, Jesus Christ or Jesus
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Lord Mighty in battle, Psalm 24.
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Lord of glory, Lord of lords,
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Living, Lord of the Sabbath.
Lord, our righteousness and he

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is Lord over all.
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he’s Lord, strong and mighty.
He’s the man Christ.

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Jesus, Man of Sorrows Master
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Covenant messenger of the
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Prince, Michael.
Mighty God, mighty to save, and

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he’s the minister of the
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Most, holy is the Morning Star.
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Is The Offspring of David.
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begotten of the father, only
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savior, our hope, our peace and
our Passover is the power of

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God.
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as i-22, he’s the physician
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He’s the priest Forever.
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he did Prince, Prince of Life,
Prince of Peace and he’s Prince

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of the kings of the earth.
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and his art appreciation and
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That’s the only one for Q.
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45 Rabbi we’re bone.
I Ransom Redeemer, resurrection

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and life, Redemption righteous,
righteous Branch, righteous

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judge righteous servant he is
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He’s rock, rock of the offense
Rod out of the root of Jesse

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wrote of David root of Jesse and
he’s ruler in Israel like a

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five.
Salvation, sanctification.

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He is the sanctuary savior
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Jesus Christ, savior of the
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He’s the scepter, is the second
man is the seed of David seed of

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the woman, and he is separate
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He’s a servant.
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shepherd and Bishop of our
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He is Shiloh Genesis 49, verse
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Son of God.
Son of his love out of man.

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Some of Carry some of the
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Son of the highest, and the son
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He’s the star, the sun of
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He’s The Surety of a better
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stone of stumbling Stone, which
the builders rejected, and he’s

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a sure Foundation, he’s a
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He’s true is true bread from
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he’s undefiled, he is divine the
way wisdom of God without spot

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wonderful word, made flesh word
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And he is called Yahweh.
Joel 2, acts to Philippians 2,

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Isaiah 45.
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Christ and he’s, you always
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So, no wonder brothers and
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2.
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God has highly exalted him and
given him the name which is

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above every name that at the
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bow of those in heaven.
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under the year.
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Jesus Christ is Lord.
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Every tongue should confess that
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Paul says, to the glory of God,
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thing to say that all of those
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Christ.
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from Genesis to Revelation all
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the absolute preeminence in the
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designed to ultimately give
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So when we honor, Jesus Christ,
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our actions and following him in
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Any of those things will
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sent him is his son and in him
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godhead.
Dwells in the son, the Lord

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Jesus Christ.
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Colossians chapter 1. and by the
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think we’ve exhausted, but I
think for the Sisters I actually

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go by way of I’ve got your copy
of all those with the references

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in versus so you can have an
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But I actually have Sunday
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that is I just read that list
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reflecting.
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It is very, very powerful and I
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I come to Colossians chapter 1.
Look at this, the language of

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the Apostle Paul.
Could you not be stronger and we

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know this passage because of the
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Apostle Paul, and you sort of
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really extreme but it is, but in
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of the Lord Jesus Christ,
although the Trinity obviously,

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gets it wrong from a, from a
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underestimate in undervalue the
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What he says.
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Colossians 1:15 and there’s a
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in this letter to the Colossians
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They need an elevated position
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A few of his position verse 15.
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invisible.
God, the firstborn over all

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creation For by him, all things
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and that are on earth, visible
and invisible, whether Thrones,

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or dominions, or principalities
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All things were created through
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before, all things.
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and he is the head of the body,
the Ecclesia, who is the

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beginning the firstborn from the
dead that in all things, he

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might have the preeminence just
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about Demetrius that loves to
have the preeminence, remember

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that brother?
And he started think, we’ll know

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the reason why that’s so wrong
for a brother or a sister or any

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of us to love to have the
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and sisters, is because we have
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preeminence Belongs to the Lord.
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He’s the head of this, Ecclesia
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But look at verse 19 for it.
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the almost every word here is
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The father that in him all the
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All the fullness, dwell. you
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two, Look at verse 9 for
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That is Christ.
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godhead, which is why.
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complete in him.
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principality and power?
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jump.
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Chapter one is well and John
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Full of Grace and Truth full of
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That’s the Lord, Jesus Christ.
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Where is the father, his putting
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Redemption.
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Then that Jesus says that all
should honor the son just as

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they honor the father and that’s
true, brothers and sisters from

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so many angles and we can see
that that’s the way that God has

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designed.
Because when we do, we accept

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the father who sent him and we
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there’s a beautiful passage in
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Yeah, and I know I love the song
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that currently there’s a few
other views going around in some

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solvent, which I think needs to
my own personal use serious

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scrutiny.
But so we solving is an amazing

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book that institution I’m
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We can show this in multiple
different ways that there is

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absolutely no doubt that this
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Ecclesia ultimately, it’s an
amazing book that when you think

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about it, we we go here and we
feel like, well, this is a bit

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of a tricky book to understand
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young person needs to be in
Sunday school, whatever it was

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and the really the only thing
you really makes you do

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sometimes is kind of like give
you a little bit nervous, but

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when you put it this way, if
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of the love between God and
Israel and Christ Leah, please

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your, which it is family is and
must be We have an entire book

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in Scripture that plummets the
depths in Exquisite detail to

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try and get us to understand the
love that needs to exist in the

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passion in the depth of
commitment and Phi, delta T

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between Christ and he’s a
collision, a whole book devoted

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to it in language, that’s kind
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But I think that this book has
our primary place in that role

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God is trying to just like Hosea
was and commissions You got is

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trying profoundly to get us to
understand the depth of the love

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that we need to have for his son
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So in chapter 5 Stars home and
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the female character the
shulamite. is going and looking

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for her beloved Look at verse 6,
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my beloved had turned away and
was gone and so she goes and

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finds him.
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does you know how she’s going
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Look what happens with what she
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She says.
In verse a story The the

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daughters of Jerusalem, find her
going around looking for her

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beloved.
So she’s moving around looking

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for her blood and the daughters
of Jerusalem approached her in

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the streets and is what they say
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Of course not.
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What is your beloved more than
another beloved of fairest among

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women?
What is your beloved more than

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any other beloved that you so
charge us now?

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That’s a classic question.
Any context of what we’re doing?

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Like to view sort of asking
what’s what’s really the deal

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about?
Jesus Christ?

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Why is he so important more than
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What’s the what’s the position
that he has is so important and

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now obviously we know the answer
to that but that’s the question

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that she’s basically asking this
this Should align.

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So instead of just saying, well,
he’s my beloved, she launches

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into the most amazing
description of an answer to that

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question.
She’s our oath.

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You want to know why my beloved
is better than any other

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beloved?
Let me tell you and she does,

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she launches into this
description of her beloved look

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at verse 10 all the way to 16 my
beloved.

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Let me tell you my beloved is
white in ready and he’s Chief

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among ten thousand his head.
It is like finest gold.

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His locks are wavy, and black,
as a raven, of course,

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immediately.
We’re sort of confronted with

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this imagery that is not meant
to be literal in any way because

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it would be a very
strange-looking beloved in that

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sense.
But all of these are absolutely

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packed with the metaphorical
meaning.

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Hey and she cannot restrain
herself by describing in great

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detail.
Why her beloved is the best and

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I think that has some sort of
application to us brothers and

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sisters.
Maybe our preaching.

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Why is the Lord Jesus Christ?
So important to use your cell

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phones and we should be able to
answer that question for

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foundling.
And if people ask us at work,

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why why are you Chris tell me
why do you follow the lord Jesus

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Christ?
What’s this thing about?

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The truth is we should be able
to give it an absolutely

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definite answer to that of why
we love the Lord Jesus Christ.

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In a profound sense, from a
scriptural, point of view from

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who he truly is and what he
truly means to us and that is

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what this shoe might does when
she’s confronted with that

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question, he was he more than
any other, let me.

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That’s her answer.
You know there’s many things in

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Scripture that emphasized to us
the primary importance of the

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Lord Jesus Christ.
We’re told in Matthew 28, verse

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9 that they came and held him by
the feet and worshipped him and

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he did not refuse them, John
does revelation when he went.

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He falls down before the angel
and he looks like he’s going to

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worship the angel.
The angel says, no, I’m one of

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your my brother do not do that.
That but when Jesus is

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worshipped by the disciples but
the sisters, he does not refuse

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and that word worship.
Needs to give obeisance to kiss

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or give reverence much the same
as Psalm chapter 2 that we re

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dead and no wonder based on who
he is in the divine plan.

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Now, let’s be careful with that
idea of worship because

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sometimes worship to wash
conjures up something that maybe

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it doesn’t imply worship is just
to give honor and reverence.

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That’s not just I shouldn’t say
that because it’s an extremely

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00:29:06,500 –> 00:29:09,800
important Concept in word, you
know, interesting Lee.

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00:29:09,800 –> 00:29:13,200
I think if you’ve ever listened
to our red to transcripted the

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00:29:13,200 –> 00:29:17,300
Lee Mansfield debates, when HP
Mansfield was debating debating

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00:29:17,300 –> 00:29:20,200
dr.
Lee happened in that, in the

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Adelaide in 1962, I believe it
was as any One got ahold of

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00:29:24,408 –> 00:29:26,400
those debates before, never
listen to them.

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00:29:26,400 –> 00:29:28,500
They are cracker.
Like, it’s amazing.

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If you get a group of people
around, do you have some?

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Listen to them, or even some of
them, they’re great.

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00:29:33,400 –> 00:29:36,300
Actually, just a little side
pointed out during those debates

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00:29:36,300 –> 00:29:41,000
in 1962 that happened, I’d like
they were advertised to the deaf

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00:29:41,000 –> 00:29:44,600
community and I’ve number of the
deaf Community were convinced by

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00:29:44,600 –> 00:29:47,800
those debates and came into the
truth of that time and we still

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have a Heritage College.
Any Judy Bailey, who is the

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00:29:51,000 –> 00:29:53,400
librarian at our school and
Adelaide?

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00:29:53,800 –> 00:29:56,300
Her parents came into the truth
to those debates, and they were

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both profoundly deaf.
And she works at our school and

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00:30:00,800 –> 00:30:02,600
she came in basically through
that.

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Now, that was sidetracked.
Dr. Leave presents HP Mansfield

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with this challenge.
She said, well, hold on.

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How can you say that?
Jesus is not God.

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The Father, when the disciples
worshipped him.

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And the answer of HP man.
School is like that doesn’t

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prove anything.
Of course, they worshiped him.

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00:30:22,200 –> 00:30:25,200
He was the Lord Jesus Christ.
In fact, they worship me quotes

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00:30:25,200 –> 00:30:27,200
the Old Testament.
He shows that the people

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00:30:27,200 –> 00:30:31,500
worshipped God and the King
David at the time because

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00:30:31,500 –> 00:30:34,500
worship means to give reverence
and they knew that the King

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00:30:34,500 –> 00:30:37,900
David of that time was God’s
representative on Earth and to

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Bow and give homage in,
obeisance to him, was to give

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00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:43,700
homage and obeisance in
reverence to God.

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00:30:43,900 –> 00:30:46,800
It’s not taking away from God at
all, in fact, Giving everything

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00:30:46,800 –> 00:30:52,200
to him to recognize and worship.
The sun is, to do exactly the

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00:30:52,200 –> 00:30:56,100
same to the father because he
sent him, it’s his son and

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00:30:56,100 –> 00:30:59,500
that’s the sense which we gain
all the way through scripture.

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That is no proof of the trinity
in any sense, but it is a proof

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of the status and position that
Jesus Christ has in relation to

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the father and his purpose.
Now what we want to do both the

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sisters is bring this thing all
the way to a reading and

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relationship. 25.
Now it’s Our intention is

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00:31:18,700 –> 00:31:22,500
morning to sort of sort of
dissect, the elements of

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00:31:22,500 –> 00:31:27,400
Revelation 4:5 in great detail.
But let’s just sort of briefly

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00:31:27,400 –> 00:31:31,100
have a general.
Look at chapter 4 and 5 in the

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00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:35,300
context, particularly of the
song that is sung Blanche at the

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00:31:35,300 –> 00:31:37,600
five.
So chapter 4 and we’re just

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00:31:37,600 –> 00:31:42,800
going to skim over this chapter.
For seems to be a vision of the

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00:31:42,800 –> 00:31:47,700
final Glory that belongs to God
in the end with The four living

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00:31:47,700 –> 00:31:50,100
creatures and the twenty-four
Elders around his throne

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00:31:50,100 –> 00:31:53,400
singing.
Holy Holy Holy in verse 8.

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00:31:54,600 –> 00:31:59,500
But then, we come to chapter 5.
And it seems like this is the

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00:31:59,500 –> 00:32:03,000
glory of Christ or at least the
land that’s leading up to that

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point.
So it’s going back and showing

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how we got to chapter 4 in that
sense.

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And what we find is this in
chapter 5 verse 1, I saw in the

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hand of him, who sat on the
throne, a scroll written inside

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00:32:17,300 –> 00:32:20,900
on the back sealed with Seven
Seals, there’s are Seven Seals

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00:32:21,500 –> 00:32:24,300
that are going to be opened in
chapter 6.

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00:32:24,900 –> 00:32:28,200
Then I saw a strong angel,
proclaiming with a loud voice,

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00:32:28,500 –> 00:32:32,600
who is worthy to open the scroll
and to loose it seals and no one

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00:32:32,600 –> 00:32:34,700
in heaven or on Earth or under
the Earth.

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00:32:36,200 –> 00:32:38,800
Which is interesting because
we’ve heard those words before.

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00:32:40,200 –> 00:32:43,500
Was able to open the scroll or
to look at it.

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00:32:45,000 –> 00:32:48,400
So I wept much because no one
was found worthy to open and

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00:32:48,400 –> 00:32:50,600
read the scroll or even to look
at it.

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But one of the elders said to
me, do not weep, Behold The Lion

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00:32:55,600 –> 00:32:59,700
of the tribe of Judah.
The root of David has prevailed

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00:32:59,700 –> 00:33:01,900
to open the scroll to exceed
Seven Seals.

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00:33:02,300 –> 00:33:05,600
So what happens is John looks
and beholding the mr.

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00:33:05,600 –> 00:33:07,500
Throwing the four living
creatures in the midst of the

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00:33:07,500 –> 00:33:10,400
elders, stood a lamb as though
it had been slain having seven

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00:33:10,400 –> 00:33:13,400
horns and seven eyes which are
the seven spirits of God sent

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00:33:13,400 –> 00:33:19,400
out into all the Earth He came
this lamb, he came and took the

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00:33:19,400 –> 00:33:24,000
scroll out of the right hand of
him who sat on the throne now.

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But this is this is a Monumental
moment in history.

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This is the very moment in a
sense in the first century where

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00:33:32,600 –> 00:33:36,000
the elevated and resurrected
Christ has given all power and

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00:33:36,000 –> 00:33:40,200
authority is now, taking the
seven sealed.

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00:33:40,200 –> 00:33:44,600
Scroll that no one can open and
he’s taking that and he will be

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The one to open it.
The only one that could ever do.

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So, and when job sees that in
the, the people in this Vision,

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00:33:51,800 –> 00:33:55,300
see that the lamb is taken at
school and he’s ready to open it

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00:33:55,900 –> 00:33:59,100
which happens in chapter 6.
This is what happens response,

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00:33:59,100 –> 00:34:02,200
death verse a.
Now when he had taken the

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00:34:02,200 –> 00:34:04,500
scroll, the four living
creatures and the twenty-four

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00:34:04,500 –> 00:34:08,199
Elders fell down before the lamb
each having a harp and golden

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00:34:08,199 –> 00:34:11,800
bowls full of incense, which are
the prayers of the Saints.

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00:34:12,199 –> 00:34:16,699
And they sang a new song saying,
You are worthy to take the

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00:34:16,699 –> 00:34:22,100
scroll and to open its seals for
you were slain and have redeemed

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00:34:22,100 –> 00:34:25,400
us to God by your blood out, of
every tribe and tongue, and

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00:34:25,400 –> 00:34:28,900
people and nation, and have made
us Kings and Priests to our God.

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00:34:28,900 –> 00:34:32,500
And we shall reign on the earth.
Now really six years for quite a

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00:34:32,500 –> 00:34:35,199
long time.
I’ve always seen this vision is

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something that will have, that
will be doing in the Kingdom

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00:34:37,300 –> 00:34:39,600
time.
And surely we will there’s there

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00:34:39,600 –> 00:34:42,500
must be an aspect of that, which
when we are in the Kingdom of

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00:34:42,500 –> 00:34:45,199
the East Gate of the Temple of
wherever we might be, So we will

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00:34:45,199 –> 00:34:48,100
be able to sing these words to
the Lord Jesus Christ because he

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00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:51,199
has redeemed us to God by his
blood.

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00:34:51,600 –> 00:34:56,199
This Zone Lele from Reading
Revelation, chapter five and six

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00:34:56,199 –> 00:35:01,800
carefully was first son in the
first century, that is when the

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00:35:01,800 –> 00:35:07,100
Lord Jesus Christ, first took
that scroll, the first seal was

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00:35:07,100 –> 00:35:12,600
opened in the first century.
In the late. 1890s as chapter 6,

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00:35:12,600 –> 00:35:17,200
goes on to describe the
judgments Unpaid enroll, right

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00:35:17,200 –> 00:35:20,800
verse 1 of chapter 6.
Now I saw when the lamb opened

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00:35:20,800 –> 00:35:24,600
one of the seals and that’s the
that is the beginning of the

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00:35:24,600 –> 00:35:28,300
whole unraveling of the story of
Revelation, the Judgment of God

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00:35:28,300 –> 00:35:30,300
on the earth, to the Lord, Jesus
Christ.

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Now, this is something that our
Pioneer brother and have long

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00:35:35,000 –> 00:35:39,700
written about This is what 13
lectures written by brother.

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00:35:39,700 –> 00:35:44,600
Robert Robert says on this scene
that we find, he says in 13

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00:35:44,600 –> 00:35:47,200
lectures.
This is a dramatic illustration

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00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:52,600
of the great love and esteem
entertained for by the Lord,

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00:35:52,600 –> 00:35:57,800
Jesus by all standing related to
the matter, the great loved and

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00:35:57,800 –> 00:36:01,400
esteemed entertained from Lord,
Jesus by all standing related to

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00:36:01,400 –> 00:36:03,300
the matter.
And he says, of this song,

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00:36:03,300 –> 00:36:08,400
verses 8 to 10, this is what he
says, page 37. 13 lectures, the

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Saints are seeing here.
The Saints are in a Praying

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00:36:11,800 –> 00:36:14,600
State.
The probationary State as

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00:36:14,600 –> 00:36:18,700
represented by the 24 hours.
The elders, represent the

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00:36:18,700 –> 00:36:23,800
Saints.
Not only in the final Glory that

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00:36:23,800 –> 00:36:29,900
awaits them, but also In their
contemporary first century

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00:36:30,200 –> 00:36:33,900
Adoration of Christ in their
several Generations.

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00:36:33,900 –> 00:36:37,200
Well, yet in the flesh,
therefore they say

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00:36:37,200 –> 00:36:41,400
prospectively, we shall reign on
the Earth showing that at the

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00:36:41,408 –> 00:36:44,200
time of this part of the vision,
they are still in the position

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00:36:44,400 –> 00:36:47,200
of Hope.
Now that’s a that’s an amazing

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00:36:47,200 –> 00:36:48,900
thing to remember.
If you think about brothers

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00:36:48,900 –> 00:36:51,700
sisters with this Vision,
although clearly it’s got

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00:36:51,800 –> 00:36:55,100
implications for the future.
There is an element to which

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00:36:55,100 –> 00:36:56,900
this Vision happens in the first
century.

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00:36:57,100 –> 00:37:00,000
Because that’s when Christ was
elevated given all power and

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00:37:00,000 –> 00:37:03,800
authority and our brothers and
sisters of that age.

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00:37:03,800 –> 00:37:07,200
Recognized that that was the
position of Christ that he was

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00:37:07,200 –> 00:37:10,500
going to be the one to unleash.
The judgments on Pagan Rome, the

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00:37:10,500 –> 00:37:13,900
Seven Seals.
And they were so thankful to God

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00:37:13,900 –> 00:37:17,100
at that time.
That they sang worthy.

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00:37:17,100 –> 00:37:21,200
Are you to take the scroll and
to open it seals?

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00:37:21,600 –> 00:37:24,900
if for you were slain and have
redeemed us to God by your

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00:37:24,900 –> 00:37:29,800
blood, John then has another
element to this Vision.

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00:37:29,800 –> 00:37:33,600
As he turns in verse 11.
And this is one of those

617
00:37:33,600 –> 00:37:36,400
elements in Revelation where he
suddenly goes right into the

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00:37:36,400 –> 00:37:38,500
future and the evidence of that
is clear.

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00:37:38,500 –> 00:37:41,300
Verse 11.
Then I looked and I heard the

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00:37:41,300 –> 00:37:45,600
voice of many angels, not just
the Saints Angels around the

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00:37:45,600 –> 00:37:48,100
throne, the living creatures,
the elders, and the number of

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00:37:48,107 –> 00:37:51,000
them clearly, this is Kingdom
righted.

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00:37:51,100 –> 00:37:54,400
The End of the Age, the number
of them was Ten Thousand Times.

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00:37:54,400 –> 00:37:57,500
Ten Thousand and thousands of
thousands saying with a loud

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00:37:57,500 –> 00:38:00,400
voice.
Worthy is the Lamb who was slain

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00:38:00,400 –> 00:38:03,400
to receive power and riches.
Riches and wisdom and strength

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00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:06,400
and honor and glory and blessing
to see what John is doing.

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00:38:06,500 –> 00:38:08,400
That’s clearly at the End of the
Age.

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And and the song in verse 9 is
in the first century and from

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00:38:12,400 –> 00:38:15,000
the first century to the very
end of the age, when Christ

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returns, We give you honor the
son because he has redeemed us

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00:38:22,000 –> 00:38:26,400
to God by his blood.
And in that time just like we

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00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:30,500
saw in Revelation 19 we will be
rejoicing together as a

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00:38:30,500 –> 00:38:35,800
community of Believers and with
the Lord Jesus Christ rejoicing

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00:38:35,800 –> 00:38:38,800
over that salvation and all that
was accomplished through the

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00:38:38,800 –> 00:38:44,700
sunroof, the will of the father
So I says in verse 13 and every

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00:38:44,700 –> 00:38:48,000
creature which is in heaven and
on Earth and under the Earth and

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00:38:48,000 –> 00:38:49,700
such as are in the sea and all
that are in them.

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00:38:49,700 –> 00:38:56,600
I heard saying, blessing, and
honor and glory and power, be to

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00:38:56,600 –> 00:39:03,900
him who sits on the throne and
to the lamb forever and ever.

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00:39:04,700 –> 00:39:08,300
So here’s the thought, fresh
this morning with the sisters,

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00:39:09,200 –> 00:39:13,400
we need to really give thought
to how is that Worship the Sun

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00:39:13,500 –> 00:39:17,100
and honor the son in our life.
And now, just for the record

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sometimes we sort of when we’re
talking about this topic, we

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sort of, bring out that the
curly question of prayer to the

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Lord Jesus Christ.
And that’s a discussion that

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comes up frequently, our
community.

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But I think there’s a really
simple answer to that even

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though there’s a lot of
discussion around that.

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Um, I know that’s true in
Australia from time to time.

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The simple answer is this.
In my mind, the Lord Jesus

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Christ in the very context of
John in John chapter 14 taught

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us.
That prayer was to be made to

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the father.
That is what he teaches and he

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never taught anything else.
That’s what he says you pray to

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the father, but he says when you
do and if you do I will do it.

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That’s the amazing part.
That’s where Jesus is involved.

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He also, he not only does he
bring us to the father and open

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that way.
Make that possible, but he’s

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also saying that I’m the one
who’s going to be Foreman.

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And we can spend a whole nother
sort of time together.

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Looking at what Jesus Christ is
doing now as the resurrected

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Lord, in the Ecclesia as walking
through the lampstands and and

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so many other things and it’s
really important.

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I think to understand that that
to have a relationship with the

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Lord, Jesus Christ is not mean
that.

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I mean we don’t necessarily get
there by just chatting to him

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the disciples have that
opportunity for three or so

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years, right?
But even then they didn’t really

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necessarily perfect.
Paulino, the Lord Jesus Christ,

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the message of John is to know,
the Lord is to profoundly live

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him in your life.
It’s not just your conversation

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or or trying to talk to him in
prayer.

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Is there cases where people
actually came to Christ and said

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things?
Like at the end of Revelation

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quickly Carnival?
Oh, Lord, Jesus could become and

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the answer to that is.
Yes.

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And we’re thanks given to Christ
was Thanksgiving to Christ.

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Yes.
And some of our hymns do that

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but pre-eminently but the
sisters Theme in the thrust and

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the focus of the New Testament
is that we pray to the father

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through the son because that is
what the privilege is.

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That he is given to us.
So let’s honor the son, by the

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way, we live.
And by the way we speak, and by

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the way, we preach the gospel to
the world around us and may he

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