026: John Pople – Job: Who is Satan?

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Our talk is taken from a series
that was given by her brother

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John poeple on a series that he
gave about Job.

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The specific classes class to
from that Series, where he looks

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into the character of Satan in
the story of job and who he

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believes that Satan represents,
I won’t spoil who it is because

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it’s kind of the point of his of
his talk he gets to about

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halfway through and then
proceeds to lay out his case, as

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he goes on.
If you haven’t heard brother

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John before he has a very strong
speaking style, very thorough

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conclusions.

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A lot of his subjects, he
sometimes can find interesting

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and topics.

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He pays really close attention
to details that can help draw

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And and this classroom is series

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on job is no different.
He looks really closely at the

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first couple chapters, and it’s
a really interesting one to look

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at He also leaves a completely
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as The Listener, whether to take
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I really enjoyed it.

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It’s a really good introduction
laying out the argument to who

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the character of Satan is in
this story and how you can apply

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So with that, I’m going to turn

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it over now to our brother John
poeple for his class on the

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story of job title, the subject,
who is Satan good morning.

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It’s going to be important, to
figure out who Satan is

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obviously, hopefully that’s
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Because even though his name or
the name, Satan only shows up in

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the first two chapters, even if
that’s his only appearance in

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the story, and I don’t believe
that it is.

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But even if it were, you can see
that he’s clearly a key

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character to affecting the
entire understanding of the

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book.
And what’s happening?

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It’s someone god barters with
apparently it’s someone who

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clearly affects the outcome and
the history and the effect of

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job.
So we need to know Who this

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person is.
And if you look into the

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literature, the extent of
Christian literature, you’ll

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find just about every possible.
Answer is is supported by

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someone or other?
Is it God?

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Is it an angel?
Is it?

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A supernatural devil?
If it is an angel is, an

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obedient Angel.
Is it a disobedient Angel?

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Some of these suggestions don’t
really figure in our community

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but they’re all there in the
literature.

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Is it eliphaz bildad?
And zophar is it a light Hue

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that strange enigmatic fourth
character?

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Is it?
Of himself.

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Is it something else?
And so, we’re going to spend

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some time to live.
Made it perfectly clear.

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That I think it’s the heart of
man that most obviously evidence

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is itself in the three friends.
I think it’s worth worthwhile

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for me to at least show you the
evidence by which I reached that

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decision.
Then you can be enabled to make

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your own decision about whether
that’s a good conclusion or

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whether you think I’ve followed
a fault in logic or in reasoning

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and you can come to a different
answer.

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And I guess generally the more
One suggestions that we find in

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our own Community is that Satan
is either and obedient angel of

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God performing God’s will or
else he is some form of human

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either are like you job or the
three friends, in fact, just for

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interest sake, if you didn’t
dodge me who in the room, which

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is would suppose, most naturally
that Satan is probably an angel

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of the Lord.
Yeah, good.

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I thought that opinion would be
there and who would suppose that

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Satan might be the three
friends?

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Got an equal number and who
would suppose that Satan would

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be a like you?
Uh-huh, and or job?

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Interesting, so right away,
we’ve got a diversity of opinion

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in this room and that’s good
news because it means I’m not

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wasting your time.
You you may still come to that

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conclusion at the end anyway,
but it’s good that we can have

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these different opinions and
meet together and actually

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consider.
So let me show you the evidence.

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All the evidence that I try to
consider to consider the various

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options in the conclusion at
which I arrived.

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First of all, let’s start off in
a reasonably scientific manner.

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We won’t actually start off with
a preconceived agenda will just

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assemble the Acts as they appear
in the text.

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We don’t get a lot of
information about Satan.

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We have, I think only really for
facts to notice objectively,

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number one, he presents himself
before the Lord, that’s the

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scriptural.
Phrase that’s used the sons of

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God came to present themselves
before the Lord.

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And Satan also came among them.
It’s our first fact, a second

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fact, he comes from the Earth.
The Lord said, where have you

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come from?
Satan answered from roaming

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through the Earth and going back
and forth in it, okay?

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Third fact, he knows who job is.
It’s a pretty small fact but we

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may as well throw it in there,
we have so little to work with

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we can’t afford to be picky here
job’s flocks and herds are

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spread throughout the lands of
Satan.

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So he’s aware of who job is and
fourthly.

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He is empowered by God, God,
grants him Authority.

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The Lord said to Satan very
well.

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Then everything Jobe has is in
your hands.

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And somehow from these, this
sparsity of facts, we’re going

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to have to assemble some sort of
opinion because it is going to

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be critical to our understanding
of the Book of Job to know who

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Satan is.
Let’s look at that first fact

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presented before the Lord.
Luckily is a scriptural phrase,

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a repeating phrase.
And when we look up every single

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use, That phrase we find that is
a phrase which is invariably

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refers to human beings
invariably refers to mankind,

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I’ll show you just a couple of
examples.

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The Lord said to Moses human
man, be ready in the morning and

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then come up on Mount Sinai,
present yourself to me, they’re

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on the top of the mountain now.
Regardless of what we know about

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whether or not you can appear in
the presence of God in this

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sense, at least whatever is
meant by this man can Appear

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presented before the Lord in
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Here’s another example from The
Book of Leviticus the priest who

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pronounces the leper or the
former leper.

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I should say, clean shall
present both the one to be

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cleansed and his offerings
before the Lord.

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So this man, this human man who
has come to the priest is

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presented.
Before the Lord, those are two

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Old Testament references, but
that’s not to say that this this

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phrase doesn’t appear also in
the New Testament.

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And in Who can think of a new
testament phrase?

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This phrase appearing.
It actually we wrote an entire

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him about it in our hymn books.
Not that that’s desperately

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important.
Anyone familiar with anyone,

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That little sort of doxology or
beatitude, that appears at the

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end of Jude.
Now unto him, this is about

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Jesus.
Now unto him that is able to

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keep you from falling and to
present you faultless before the

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presence of his glory with
exceeding Joy, remember that?

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That him very nice him so
whether from the Old Testament

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or the new the phrase, if you
are presented before the Lord,

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or you have come to present
yourself before.

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Lord.
It is a characteristic of human

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men and I have not chosen these
in a biased or skewed form,

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ignoring the ones where angels
are presented before the Lord, I

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have chosen these entirely
honestly as a representation of

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the way that they are the
phrases used by contrast the

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Angels it is said in this is
Matthew chapter 18, which was

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only yesterday’s reading was it
not the angels, in heaven,

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always see the face of my Father
in Heaven.

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They are said in some sense or
another, to always Be in the

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presence of the almighty,
father, whereas the men go in

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and out of the presence of God.
So from that information alone,

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we would naturally conclude that
Satan was a human man or men,

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but that’s not the only
information we have to work

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with.
So let’s start over from an

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entirely different perspective.
First thing we should notice is

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that Satan is a generic term.
I’m sure, you know this but it’s

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worth establishing this.
That is to say there is no moral

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pejorative associated with the
name.

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Satan, that is to say in proper
English so that I make sense.

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Satan doesn’t mean that you’re a
bad person, believe it or not.

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It is a very innocent word.
It’s simply means opponent, if

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you and I were to sit down and
play chess together, I would be

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your Satan.
And you would be my satyam.

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So there is no moral perogative
associated with that word

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necessarily.
It’s simply means opponent and

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therefore we can find almighty
God, himself, Angels, or humans

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can all wear this title in very
different circumstances.

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Of course, Satan rose up against
Israel and incited David to take

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a census.
And by comparing that with the

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parallel passage, we realize
that that is actually God, who

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is acting in opposition?
Into Israel.

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At that time, simply their
opponents, likewise the angel of

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the Lord, took his stand in the
way as balaam’s Satan, and

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Balaam was riding on the S.
He and his two servants with

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him.
So there’s where an obedient

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angel of God is indeed wearing
the name of Satan.

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And likewise humans are very
well-known case from the New

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Testament.
Jesus turned and said to Peter

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get behind me.
Satan.

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Okay, so it could be, it could
be God, it could be Angels.

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It could be humans.
This term alone does not allow

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us to discriminate between them
so we don’t need to come to the

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conclusion.
It’s humans from this term.

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Furthermore we know that God is
the one who causes super natural

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Calamity and we also know that
specifically within the case of

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the Book of Job, it was God who
did everything?

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Not anybody else?
It makes this perfectly clear in

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a couple of places, I’ve chosen
just one from the end of the

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book.
Jobs friends, comforted and

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consoled job, over all the
trouble, the Lord had brought

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upon him, so we’re not left in
ambiguity.

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It was God who acted to afflict
job.

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And there’s another passage a
lot earlier in the book, which

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substantiates, that, and I’m out
of range of this little guy.

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In fact, it’s a principle.
We know throughout scripture

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from Isaiah 45.
I am the lord, and there is none

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else.
I form the light and create

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Darkness.
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I the Lord do all these things.
So this is entirely in harmony

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with the broader picture of
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affected Afflicted.
Joe and when God acts, he

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And this is true when God sends
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true when he performs acts of
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Salvation.
Daniel records my God sent his

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Angel and he shut the mouths of
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They have not hurt me.
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God Unleashed against them his
hot anger, his Roth indignation

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and hostility a band of
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is making peace or creating
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So most frequently in biblical
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so our second conclusion is that
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unfortunate because that’s a
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conclusion.
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that is merely by taking
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evidence in their most natural
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It is very likely.
It is very possible to come to

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completely contrasting
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So it’s very reasonable.
That we have a diversity of

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opinion our community, just
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naturally Converge on a single
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Nevertheless, if our studies in
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move forward, we do need to find
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these apparently or these
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opinions.
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bring further information to
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So let’s take the trouble to do
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First thing to notice, it’s
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It’s God’s opponent Satan in the
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of job, read the text.
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You can see that in chapter one.
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necessarily be Wicked.
It is not job.

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Who is opposed?
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Afflicted?
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Have you considered my servant
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There is none like him.
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And upright, a man who fears God
and shuns evil, and someone or

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something says no sir, no sir,
you God are wrong.

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You have misunderstood that job
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reason of the blessings that he
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That’s God who’s being opposed.
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wicked thing.
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So already, I fear that I have
to conclude and I don’t want to

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try and impose my my wheels
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that I must conclude.
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talking about Out of divine
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We cannot be calling about a
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contradict the Living.
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God, here’s another thought to
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where have you come from?
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God, asking questions in
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Why is it peculiar that God is
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anywhere?
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So he knows the answer.
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he’s not soliciting, an answer
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At least, he’s doing one of two
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He’s either saying, is a
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students.
You know, why don’t you tell the

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class, why you’ve shown up late?
So it was wonderful when someone

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walks in just at that point.
I always enjoy that bit but it

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was not to be whatever, right?
He’s getting someone to confess

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or to make an explanation.
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or he’s making a statement, an
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And there is a sense of
pronouncement in the idea of

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where have you come from?
The emphasis that God is making

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its a form of statement?
Two says, you’re not with me,

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right?
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If I rode up here in your car,
for those of you who drove with

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you, I wouldn’t, when I got
here, say well, where did you

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come from?
Because you’d think your

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short-term memory, Worse than I
had supposed, we travelled

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together but if I didn’t travel
with you, I might say.

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Where did you come from?
You might suddenly appear and

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I’m not sure.
And what I’m emphasizing is you

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and I were not in company,
you’ve come from a different

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place.
Think about how you do that

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metaphorically with ideas,
someone suggests a really crazy

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idea and the metaphor you uses,
say where did that come from?

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And what you’re saying, is my
thoughts and my ideas and my

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feelings can all be described
here and then in left field,

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here’s that crazy idea from you.
Where did that come from?

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That’s a phrase we come on.
Use and so the Lord is making

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the same emphasis.
Where did you come from?

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What’s that about?
That’s not part of my thinking.

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Notice how that happened in
Eden, the Lord God Called to

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Adam, where are you?
Adam The answer physically is

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180 yards to the Northeast
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God knows that bit.
What he’s saying to Adam is has

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there been a divorce in our
company?

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There has hasn’t there, that’s
what God is pronouncing and

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beginning to teach.
And the same thing is coming

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here.
The Lord said to Satan, where

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have you come from you?
And not with me and the answer

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from roaming through the Earth
and going back and forth in it?

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I’m from down.
Here, says Satan.

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And finally, a very convincing
passage Angels do not slander.

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This is absolutely explicit.
The reference doesn’t appear on

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the page, but it says 2.
Peter 2 verse 11 down there and

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I’ll read it out Angels, do not
bring slanderous accusations

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against righteous men.
In the presence of the Lord.

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There can be no more useful
verse in the entire Bible for

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trying to make a decision in
this particular matter.

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Angels, do not bring slanderous
accusations and Joe has been

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slandered.
You notice that Satan has said,

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you think that’s a good guy
that’s not a good guy.

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That’s a very rich guy.
That’s why he likes you.

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That’s why he turns up in your
church and sings hymns to you

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because he’s got a lot of nice
stuff.

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You take that stuff away, you’ll
see his real character.

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That’s a slander.
Angels, do not bring slanderous

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accusations against righteous
men in the presence of the Lord

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period.
And I think that’s a very

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definitive verse in, helping us
interpret what’s going on in the

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Book of Job.
Furthermore, we could have taken

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a rather that’s are some
necessary verses and details.

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We could have taken A more big
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It’s always nice to do this in
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See if there’s a template, see
if there’s a kind of a

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characteristic pattern of
interaction or whatever, some

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sort of characteristic pattern
that pervade scripture that you

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can grab hold off because you
now know what the template looks

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like.
And then hold it over the

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Bisset, the the difficult bit of
scripture that you’re trying to

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figure out and see if that helps
you slot things into place where

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they should be and there is in
scripture a character.

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The interaction between God and
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God destroys his enemies.
Well, that’s that’s true.

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It’s a little more complex than
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Not much more complex.
It is a very simple template but

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it has a few twists to it which
give it a little character by

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which we can come to recognize
other interactions in the same

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way.
It has three parts to it.

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Number one, God pronounces a
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Number two, Satan opposes that
truth and given that this means

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opponent Satan by definition
opposes the truth that God has

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revealed and declares
contrariwise.

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Of course, a lie.
This is all fairly basic stuff.

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A nice addition to that often,
this lie is an accusation

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against a righteous man that’s
part of the characteristic

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template.
I kind of not really a point in

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its own right because it’s part
of the the statement Satan makes

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our kind of cool that B and then
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God rebukes Satan in God’s Own
time and at the point of his own

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choosing he says enough it is
time Satan for you to be

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rebuked.
And this is the complete

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template that we see in the
interaction between God and

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Satan.
Let’s look at a couple of

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examples, from outside of the
Book of Job, way away from the

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bit that we’re trying to figure
out.

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And then we’ve got the template
set, let’s put it over the Book

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of Job and see how things drop
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So then or just look straight
into the lens or you have all

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disappeared, please don’t leave
your seats in Eden.

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You must not eat from the Tree
of the knowledge of Good and

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Evil.
For when you eat of it, you will

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surely die.
That is a pronouncement from

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almighty God.
It’s a truth.

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And then the serpent produces a
lie, you will not surely die.

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The serpent said and that is
Satan.

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We know that that’s the origin
of what the Bible is going to

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mean by Satan because the Bible
Other side, you have to go to

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the last book of the Bible to
get that that ancient serpent

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who is called the devil and
Satan, the deceiver and look at

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this.
The way this is thrown in the

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accuser of our Brethren.
So there is a slanderous

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accusation associated with the
lie that Satan has created.

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That’s interesting.
That’s part of the template.

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And then, of course, it’s a
complete, the template, the Lord

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God said to the serpent because
you have done, this cursed, are

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you above all the livestock?
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So there’s the completed
interaction first time through

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that, like, makes us feel
comfortable about the template

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that we’ve got.
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we’re in the New Testament
again, very simple interaction,

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very well-known, Peters rebuke
from that time on Jesus began to

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explain that he must be killed.
And on the third day, be raised

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to life and those were God’s
words.

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He told us that he said, I don’t
I don’t chatter along about my

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own thoughts and feelings.
He said I only speak What the

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Lord God gave me to speak tying
in with what brother?

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John is saying.
You saying I am the medium by

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which God’s words come to you.
I am the mediator, the medium by

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which that transmission arrives
in your ears.

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These are God’s words and so
unfortunately, Peter took him

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aside and please understand.
I am puke, no evil motives

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whatsoever to Peter.
In this instance, he is a far

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better Apostle of his law
disciple of his Lord then I can

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never be Peter.
Jesus aside and began to rebuke

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him.
Never Lord.

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He said this shall never happen
to you, it’s an untruth and

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unfortunately, it also
necessarily forms an accusation

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because at the very least
whether you like it or whether

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you don’t, it means that Peter
is saying, at the very least to

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Jesus Gia, kind of getting
blowing this out of proportion,

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aren’t you?
You know what you mean?

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You’re gonna be killed her.
What do you think?

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I am nothing.
I got a sword to be using it

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later.
I’ll look after you you’re

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making, you’re making too much
out of this, and of course it’s

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not.
Jesus is not exaggerating, he’s

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not drowning in melodramatic
self-pity.

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That’s the necessary though.
Doubtless unintended accusation

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that Peter is bringing and so
the template is completed, Jesus

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turned and said to Peter and
doubtless, Without Anger, I

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believe get behind me Satan move
out of the way.

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You don’t want to be doing that.
Okay and he uses the word.

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Satan I think deliberately to
allow us an extra completed

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template from which to work,
let’s look at.

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Whoa, let’s look at one more
example, the slander of

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Jerusalem or the attack on
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This is in the time of the
Exile.

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This is a pronouncement from the
Lord.

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God, this time coming through,
Cyrus the Persian the king, the

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Lord, the god of Heaven Cyrus is
speaking.

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The Lord, the god of Heaven, has
appointed me to build a temple

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for him at Jerusalem.
In Judah, anyone of his people

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among you, let him go up and
build the Temple of the Lord,

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the god of Israel.
The God Who is in Jerusalem.

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So you notice how Jerusalem is
mentioned as the chosen city of

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God?
It’s in a terrible mess at that

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00:25:21,300 –> 00:25:24,700
particular time, but this is
where God begins to pronounce

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his purpose of restoration of
Jerusalem.

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Here Comes Satan, and to Satan
when the enemies, when the

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opponents, when the Satan’s of
Judah and Benjamin heard, the

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Exiles were building a temple
for the Lord, the god of Israel.

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They hired counselors to work
against them and frustrate their

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plans.
In particular, they sent a

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letter to the king whom the
referred to as our tax Xerxes.

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That’s just a title.
This is a copy of the letter,

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they sent him to King.
Artaxerxes the Jews who came up

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to us, from you have gone to
Jerusalem and are rebuilding

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that rebellious and wicked City.
There’s the slander that’s put

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on Jerusalem.
I don’t stop there.

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They actually go out and
physically attacked the builders

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to, you know, that from the from
the writings of Nehemiah.

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When they got a trowel in one
hand, to do the work and a bow

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and arrow in the other hand,
literally, at the same I’m at

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all times because they’re trying
to build a wall and they keep

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being physically attacked and
have to shoot off their

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attackers.
And to complete the template.

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This is the commentary from the
book of Zechariah at exactly the

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same time.
The Lord said to Satan the Lord

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rebuke you Satan, the Lord who
has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you

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and it’s this mention of
Jerusalem that allows us to tie

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with confidence these words in
Zechariah upon.

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Whom Jude also comments to that
same event, okay?

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So those three examples of the
template that’s enough, there’s

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more out there but that’s
enough.

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I think now we’re ready to say.
We know the template interaction

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between God Satan, let’s go off
to the Book of Job and see if we

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00:26:53,800 –> 00:26:56,900
lay this template on the text
what is it going to teach us

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00:26:57,100 –> 00:26:59,600
about exactly who’s who and
what’s what?

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00:26:59,900 –> 00:27:02,500
Here’s the same interaction we
expect God to pronounce the

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00:27:02,508 –> 00:27:04,900
truth.
Very good this happens.

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00:27:05,000 –> 00:27:08,500
The Lord said to Satan, have you
considered my servant job?

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00:27:08,700 –> 00:27:13,500
There’s no one on earth, like
him, he is blameless.

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And upright, a man who fears God
and shuns evil And so Satan of

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00:27:19,100 –> 00:27:23,800
course, by definition
contradicts and opposes and to

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help us out at the beginning of
the text, Satan goes by that

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name.
Satan does job fear God for

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00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:31,600
nothing.
We’ve already said this, you

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00:27:31,600 –> 00:27:34,200
saying he’s not truly a
righteous man.

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00:27:34,600 –> 00:27:37,700
He’s only worshiping you because
you’ve made him so rich.

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00:27:38,300 –> 00:27:42,300
But what we’ve also learned from
the template is that that lie,

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that opposing lie against the
Declaration of God necessarily

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00:27:46,900 –> 00:27:50,200
should and Must form an
accusation against the

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righteous, man.
We’ve seen that in each of the

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three examples who then forms
accusations against the

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righteous man, because these
lies will come from Satan.

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00:28:01,600 –> 00:28:05,000
Here they are.
Is not your wickedness.

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00:28:05,000 –> 00:28:09,600
Great says eliphaz.
Oh, not your sins and less

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00:28:10,500 –> 00:28:13,800
bildad’s is much the same.
The lamp of the wicked is

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snuffed out.
He has no Offspring or

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00:28:16,500 –> 00:28:20,200
descendants amongst his people.
That’s a nice thing to tell,

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00:28:20,200 –> 00:28:22,200
someone who’s just had all their
children killed.

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00:28:22,700 –> 00:28:24,800
The Wicked Man.
Doesn’t have any descendants,

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00:28:24,800 –> 00:28:28,700
you know.
Terrible thing to say what a

499
00:28:28,700 –> 00:28:32,800
horrible thing to say and so
far, oh, how I wish God would

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speak that, he would open his
lips against you.

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Jobe know.
This God has even forgotten some

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00:28:39,100 –> 00:28:42,500
of your sin.
Your sin is so large, God can’t

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00:28:42,500 –> 00:28:47,100
even remember all of it.
These are the accusations

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00:28:47,100 –> 00:28:52,500
against the righteous, man, that
support the opposition to God’s

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00:28:52,500 –> 00:28:54,500
pronouncement.
That job is righteous and

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00:28:54,500 –> 00:28:56,900
blameless.
There can be no doubt where they

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00:28:56,900 –> 00:29:01,200
come from Satan is, I don’t want
to make it these three humans in

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00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:04,900
history and no one else.
It is the spirit, the heart of

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00:29:04,900 –> 00:29:08,500
natural man.
Most clearly evidencing itself

510
00:29:08,800 –> 00:29:12,300
in the pronouncements of these
three wicked men who are trying

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00:29:12,300 –> 00:29:14,500
In fairness to them to be
righteous man.

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00:29:14,900 –> 00:29:17,100
But have gone horribly and
terribly.

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00:29:17,100 –> 00:29:21,100
Misguided is not the definition
of sin in Hebrew, something to

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00:29:21,100 –> 00:29:24,100
miss the mark and my goodness,
how badly.

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00:29:24,100 –> 00:29:26,500
These three people have missed
the mark.

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And then, of course, to complete
the template, the template would

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00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:34,000
be incomplete if Satan was
defined any other way, because

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00:29:34,000 –> 00:29:35,700
there’s only one person or only
one group.

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00:29:35,700 –> 00:29:39,200
I should say that I rebuked
within the story of Joe and to

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00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:42,400
complete the same plate.
God always rebuked Satan at

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00:29:42,400 –> 00:29:44,600
whatever time he determines to
be the end.

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00:29:44,900 –> 00:29:47,800
And after the Lord had said
things to job, he says to

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00:29:47,800 –> 00:29:51,200
eliphaz.
I am angry with you and your two

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00:29:51,200 –> 00:29:54,000
friends you have not spoken of
me.

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00:29:54,000 –> 00:29:57,800
What is right?
As my servant job has When Joe

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00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:01,900
will pray for you and I will
accept his prayer and not deal

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00:30:01,900 –> 00:30:03,800
with you according to your
Folly.

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00:30:04,900 –> 00:30:06,600
And I think therefore
understanding that broader

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00:30:06,600 –> 00:30:09,500
template and then seeing that
same interaction with, in the

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00:30:09,508 –> 00:30:13,600
Book of Job allows us some
confidence in attributing the

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00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:16,700
character of Satan to the three
friends themselves.

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00:30:16,900 –> 00:30:18,700
Okay?
Then if that’s true.

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00:30:20,700 –> 00:30:23,000
If that’s true.
How does the Book of Job

534
00:30:23,000 –> 00:30:25,600
actually work?
Let’s just rerun the storyline

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00:30:25,600 –> 00:30:28,000
of jokes a very short story
lines quite a large book with a

536
00:30:28,000 –> 00:30:30,600
very short story line.
Let’s just recapitulate.

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00:30:30,700 –> 00:30:33,900
The storyline of jobin our heads
with that understanding and see

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00:30:33,900 –> 00:30:38,700
if everything fits into place.
So we start off eliphaz bildad

539
00:30:38,700 –> 00:30:42,800
and zophar going to and fro in
the earth, become resentful of

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00:30:42,800 –> 00:30:45,300
job’s wealth going to and fro in
the earth.

541
00:30:46,000 –> 00:30:48,500
Why would they be going to and
fro in the earth?

542
00:30:49,200 –> 00:30:50,800
We haven’t got there.
It because we’re going to do

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00:30:50,800 –> 00:30:53,200
this tomorrow.
But I really want to suggest to

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00:30:53,200 –> 00:30:59,700
you that this whole time of job
is during the time of Israel’s

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00:30:59,700 –> 00:31:02,800
wandering in the wilderness.
That’s exactly what Israel are

546
00:31:02,800 –> 00:31:05,500
doing.
They are wondering for 40 years

547
00:31:05,900 –> 00:31:08,800
to and fro in figures of eight
or whatsoever, pattern takes

548
00:31:08,800 –> 00:31:12,200
their fancy, they are wandering
to and fro in the earth, there

549
00:31:12,200 –> 00:31:15,500
is a risk with travel.
The more you travel, the more

550
00:31:15,500 –> 00:31:18,900
you see, if you’re tempted by
the side of the eyes, the more

551
00:31:18,900 –> 00:31:21,000
you travel, the more you see,
See, the more you’re tempted,

552
00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:24,200
the more you are likely to
finally run into that one Vision

553
00:31:24,200 –> 00:31:26,600
in front of you.
It says oh that’s hag.

554
00:31:26,600 –> 00:31:30,900
I’d like that, that’s nice.
And by going to and fro in the

555
00:31:30,900 –> 00:31:33,500
earth, they become resentful of
job’s wealth.

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00:31:33,800 –> 00:31:37,800
They know who he is, they see
how far his land extends job is

557
00:31:37,800 –> 00:31:39,700
not one of the Israelites I’m
going to try and show that

558
00:31:39,700 –> 00:31:41,400
tomorrow.
He’s not one of the wandering

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00:31:41,400 –> 00:31:44,000
tribe.
He is a fixture in the land of

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00:31:44,000 –> 00:31:45,600
us.
He belongs there.

561
00:31:45,600 –> 00:31:51,300
That’s his homeland.
So they the three men accused

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00:31:51,300 –> 00:31:54,100
job in their hearts while
appearing before the Lord, where

563
00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:55,700
do they appear in the presence
of the Lord?

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00:31:56,100 –> 00:31:58,200
If my timing is right?
We’re talking about the

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00:31:58,208 –> 00:32:01,200
Tabernacle at the time that they
go to the Tabernacle, Elder

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00:32:01,200 –> 00:32:04,500
Wilderness to present their
sacrifice and sing their praises

567
00:32:04,500 –> 00:32:06,800
and whatever they have that in
their heart.

568
00:32:07,100 –> 00:32:10,200
They’re still lurked.
And ticked, by what they’ve seen

569
00:32:10,400 –> 00:32:12,600
this rich man?
Who’s not one of them?

570
00:32:12,700 –> 00:32:15,900
No, child of Abraham.
He and yet, he has a Homeland.

571
00:32:15,900 –> 00:32:18,200
Do we have a Homeland with a
children of God and we’re

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00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:19,400
tramping around.
Desert.

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00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:22,100
We don’t have a Homeland.
He does with his flocks, and

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00:32:22,100 –> 00:32:26,200
herds conniving, his faith
hinges on his wealth.

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00:32:26,300 –> 00:32:29,100
That’s what they impute to Joe
the opposition of their

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00:32:29,100 –> 00:32:31,800
thoughts.
And God’s is presented as a

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00:32:31,808 –> 00:32:34,100
conversation.
So I’m taking a metaphorical

578
00:32:34,100 –> 00:32:36,900
take to the conversation between
God and Satan.

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00:32:36,900 –> 00:32:40,100
In other words, God looks down
and sees them and says, oh I

580
00:32:40,100 –> 00:32:45,100
see, I see what you’re thinking.
I know what you’re thinking, you

581
00:32:45,100 –> 00:32:46,700
can barely concentrate on that
him.

582
00:32:46,700 –> 00:32:47,500
You’re singing.
Can you?

583
00:32:47,500 –> 00:32:50,700
You just all filled.
Old with bitterness about this

584
00:32:50,700 –> 00:32:53,200
rich man?
Whose no part of your community,

585
00:32:53,800 –> 00:32:56,000
that’s really annoyed.
You, I see what you’re doing.

586
00:32:56,300 –> 00:33:01,200
You think, you think that man
follows me just because of his

587
00:33:01,200 –> 00:33:02,900
wealth, don’t you?
I see that.

588
00:33:02,900 –> 00:33:06,400
I see that thought you think
that if I took his wealth away

589
00:33:06,800 –> 00:33:12,300
he’d curse me to my face.
Okay, I’m going to act on your

590
00:33:12,300 –> 00:33:14,400
in bitter jealousy.
I’m going to empower it.

591
00:33:14,500 –> 00:33:17,300
I’m going to give it the
authority to do what it desires.

592
00:33:17,900 –> 00:33:20,800
Let’s make that happen.
And we’ll see whether or not,

593
00:33:20,800 –> 00:33:23,500
you’re right.
So God, empowers their jealousy

594
00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:26,500
and acts on it, we know it is
God who acts to cause the

595
00:33:26,500 –> 00:33:30,400
afflictions to Joe, so the three
friends, start to comfort Joe,

596
00:33:30,700 –> 00:33:33,000
I’m sure they’re genuinely
horrified when they first see

597
00:33:33,100 –> 00:33:38,500
crash jobs, lost everything.
Whoa, we know this guy be back

598
00:33:38,500 –> 00:33:41,400
around to his house and see if
he’s still alive.

599
00:33:42,200 –> 00:33:43,700
I’ve heard the whole family of
been wiped out.

600
00:33:43,700 –> 00:33:48,200
Let’s see who’s left.
But as time passes truth comes

601
00:33:48,200 –> 00:33:52,300
out, their underlying feelings,
all emerge in the end and all

602
00:33:52,300 –> 00:33:56,000
three make false and very
embittered accusations against

603
00:33:56,000 –> 00:34:00,700
the character of job.
And then God, rebuke Satan.

604
00:34:00,700 –> 00:34:04,100
The three friends, righteous
Jobe intercedes with them as a

605
00:34:04,108 –> 00:34:06,800
priest and righteous job is
blessed.

606
00:34:06,900 –> 00:34:09,699
So that is how that story
recapitulates with the

607
00:34:09,699 –> 00:34:15,199
understanding we have so far.
We have Oh, we have a some time

608
00:34:15,199 –> 00:34:16,199
remaining.
That’s great.

609
00:34:16,199 –> 00:34:20,699
Because what I want to do now is
spend some time made that

610
00:34:20,699 –> 00:34:24,500
presentation to you and I
realize it these things require

611
00:34:24,500 –> 00:34:26,800
some digestion time whether you
end up accepting them or

612
00:34:26,800 –> 00:34:29,800
rejecting them, either way, some
digestion time is good and I

613
00:34:29,800 –> 00:34:33,199
want to sort of rush through all
this, but let’s see if we can’t

614
00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:35,699
in all honesty and without
wishing to defend any one point

615
00:34:35,699 –> 00:34:40,300
or another cone analyze, the
potential weaknesses of this

616
00:34:40,300 –> 00:34:44,100
Theory as long as well as the
potential strengths of this And

617
00:34:44,100 –> 00:34:45,699
be honest and try and consider
anything.

618
00:34:45,699 –> 00:34:48,199
And if I miss something that you
think is principal, please come

619
00:34:48,199 –> 00:34:50,900
and tell me about it.
I’ve always gained greatly from

620
00:34:50,900 –> 00:34:55,000
the feedback that I get of
helping re guide and retune, my

621
00:34:55,000 –> 00:34:57,000
thoughts whilst I’m at bible
school.

622
00:34:57,200 –> 00:34:58,400
Let’s look at the weaknesses
first.

623
00:34:58,400 –> 00:35:00,000
What are the weaknesses of this
interpretation?

624
00:35:00,000 –> 00:35:01,900
The idea that Satan is the heart
of man.

625
00:35:02,100 –> 00:35:05,100
Perhaps most commonly showing
through these three friends at

626
00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:08,100
the moment.
Well, first of all, there seems

627
00:35:08,100 –> 00:35:10,400
to be a contradiction that
doesn’t that if the three

628
00:35:10,400 –> 00:35:15,600
friends really wanted job to
fail, Was their consolation was

629
00:35:15,600 –> 00:35:18,400
the fact that they went round
and sat with him seven days on

630
00:35:18,400 –> 00:35:19,800
the ground?
What was that?

631
00:35:19,800 –> 00:35:22,200
Some sort of fake, some sort of
sham?

632
00:35:23,900 –> 00:35:26,300
I don’t think it is a fake and I
don’t think it is a sham and it

633
00:35:26,300 –> 00:35:30,300
is a natural contradiction to
what we’ve proposed.

634
00:35:31,100 –> 00:35:35,800
But are humans rational
creatures, are we not entirely

635
00:35:35,800 –> 00:35:38,100
self contradictory?
I don’t have any problem at all

636
00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:41,500
believing that their sympathy
for job was absolutely genuine

637
00:35:42,300 –> 00:35:45,700
and that they couldn’t see that
their own, embittered hatred of

638
00:35:45,700 –> 00:35:47,000
him which would probably gone
away.

639
00:35:47,000 –> 00:35:50,900
Briefly was what had really that
got enacted on it but know that

640
00:35:50,900 –> 00:35:53,900
they ever could have seen that
but it’s only through Time as

641
00:35:53,900 –> 00:35:57,000
they began to reason with job.
Well, Joe, you know, I’m really

642
00:35:57,000 –> 00:35:59,100
sorry for you and everything,
but you know why you lost your

643
00:35:59,100 –> 00:36:01,200
stuff, don’t you, you really are
an evil man.

644
00:36:01,600 –> 00:36:02,800
You shouldn’t you should
recognize this.

645
00:36:02,800 –> 00:36:06,500
Never got, God will give it back
so that I think it’s natural to

646
00:36:06,500 –> 00:36:09,400
have contradictions.
We are not logical or rational

647
00:36:09,400 –> 00:36:11,400
creatures.
If you imagine that we are, I

648
00:36:11,400 –> 00:36:13,600
can show you some road signs
will absolutely blow your mind.

649
00:36:14,200 –> 00:36:17,300
Yeah.
But that is a natural

650
00:36:17,300 –> 00:36:20,200
contradiction to the theory.
We have additionally.

651
00:36:20,200 –> 00:36:24,500
It requires the meetings between
gods and And Satan which are

652
00:36:24,500 –> 00:36:25,700
often referred to in the
literature.

653
00:36:25,700 –> 00:36:30,000
As Heavens Council meetings, the
heavens Council meetings and

654
00:36:30,000 –> 00:36:33,100
Satan’s empowerment, become
interpretive statements.

655
00:36:34,000 –> 00:36:35,800
But I don’t have a problem with
that, particularly whoops,

656
00:36:35,800 –> 00:36:40,200
pressed the wrong button because
the interchanges are not in

657
00:36:40,200 –> 00:36:42,500
heaven, to call these Heavens
Council meetings.

658
00:36:42,500 –> 00:36:45,200
As they so frequently are is
very bad nomenclature.

659
00:36:45,600 –> 00:36:48,700
They don’t take place in heaven.
They take place in the presence

660
00:36:48,700 –> 00:36:51,200
of the Lord.
I understand why someone says,

661
00:36:51,200 –> 00:36:52,800
well that’s Heaven.
No, it’s not.

662
00:36:52,800 –> 00:36:56,900
Look at the The presence of the
Lord is where humans assemble to

663
00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:00,100
come with God, Focus thoughts
before him, and that includes

664
00:37:00,200 –> 00:37:03,600
this room, because that’s why
you’re here, you’re here,

665
00:37:03,600 –> 00:37:07,300
because you have a god focused
life and you’re here to praise

666
00:37:07,300 –> 00:37:11,000
His name and in to spend your
time and energies upon thinking

667
00:37:11,000 –> 00:37:13,700
about his word and his will.
This is the presence of the

668
00:37:13,700 –> 00:37:15,400
Lord.
This is one of those areas, one

669
00:37:15,400 –> 00:37:18,200
of, many around the world where
that takes place, and that’s

670
00:37:18,200 –> 00:37:19,800
where these conversations take
place.

671
00:37:20,200 –> 00:37:22,800
We know, truly that, no, no,
Satan can stand before God,

672
00:37:22,800 –> 00:37:24,800
anyway.
A truly Wicked thing, cannot

673
00:37:24,800 –> 00:37:27,500
come into the presence of God.
So clearly it’s some

674
00:37:27,500 –> 00:37:29,100
interpretive level that’s
needed.

675
00:37:30,000 –> 00:37:32,500
So those are the weaknesses.
I don’t see any others.

676
00:37:32,500 –> 00:37:35,100
Particularly now, let’s look at
the strengths.

677
00:37:36,000 –> 00:37:39,000
The strength of this suggestion
that Satan is the heart of man

678
00:37:39,100 –> 00:37:41,600
and three friends.
First of all, it’s consistent

679
00:37:41,600 –> 00:37:45,900
with the rest of scripture.
This the human heart is the

680
00:37:45,900 –> 00:37:49,800
opponent of God true on the on
the most global scale and

681
00:37:49,800 –> 00:37:53,400
looking at scripture that is
God’s one and only opponent.

682
00:37:53,800 –> 00:37:58,300
It’s his only Satan the stuff
that’s in here, and in there.

683
00:37:58,700 –> 00:38:01,200
That’s what opposes god.
Let’s look at some scriptures,

684
00:38:01,200 –> 00:38:03,700
they’re very well-known, the
very obvious, the first book of

685
00:38:03,700 –> 00:38:07,300
the Bible tells us this.
The Lord saw how great man’s

686
00:38:07,300 –> 00:38:08,900
wickedness on the earth had
become.

687
00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:13,000
And that every inclination of
the thoughts of his heart was

688
00:38:13,000 –> 00:38:16,800
only Evil, all the time and
within the constraints of the

689
00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:19,700
English language, it is not
possible to maintain a proper

690
00:38:19,700 –> 00:38:22,200
English sentence and put anymore
superlatives in it.

691
00:38:22,200 –> 00:38:26,400
It is as heavily loaded as 10B.
Every inclination.

692
00:38:27,500 –> 00:38:32,200
Only Evil all the time.
Okay, we can go into the

693
00:38:32,200 –> 00:38:37,800
prophets, the heart is deceitful
above all things and desperately

694
00:38:37,800 –> 00:38:42,500
wicked, or in some translations
desperately sick, who can know

695
00:38:42,500 –> 00:38:46,600
it, who can understand it.
And even into the New Testament,

696
00:38:47,100 –> 00:38:51,600
what comes out of a man’s heart?
Is what makes him unclean?

697
00:38:51,900 –> 00:38:54,600
That’s what Jesus said.
When the Pharisees mistakenly

698
00:38:54,600 –> 00:38:57,200
suppose at some other failure to
perform rituals made a man.

699
00:38:57,300 –> 00:39:02,200
Claim for from within men’s
hearts, come all these

700
00:39:02,200 –> 00:39:05,800
desperately evil things.
They all come from inside.

701
00:39:06,000 –> 00:39:10,300
They make a man unclean or in
opposition to God.

702
00:39:11,300 –> 00:39:13,000
Okay?
So that’s our first point, it’s

703
00:39:13,000 –> 00:39:14,700
consistent with the rest of
scripture.

704
00:39:15,600 –> 00:39:19,800
Secondly, this is the point that
I enjoy the most, just get to

705
00:39:19,800 –> 00:39:21,700
know.
Satan, have a look at him in the

706
00:39:21,700 –> 00:39:24,200
Book of Job, and you’ll
recognize him.

707
00:39:24,200 –> 00:39:26,900
Unfortunately, you’ll recognize
him all too well.

708
00:39:26,900 –> 00:39:29,100
I Do look at his
characteristics.

709
00:39:29,600 –> 00:39:34,700
Number one, he’s jealous, right?
He’s jealous of job’s material

710
00:39:34,700 –> 00:39:36,200
wealth.
That’s what drives all this.

711
00:39:36,800 –> 00:39:40,900
Do we really suppose?
That it was an angel, getting

712
00:39:40,900 –> 00:39:44,800
all irate and ticked off about
the fact that job had a huge

713
00:39:44,800 –> 00:39:48,600
number of camels, right?
It’s not very likely, Angels,

714
00:39:48,600 –> 00:39:51,200
don’t care how many camels you
have humans.

715
00:39:51,200 –> 00:39:53,600
Do right.
For chemical for Camel.

716
00:39:53,600 –> 00:39:57,100
These day read Ferrari or
whatever, but it’s the same.

717
00:39:57,500 –> 00:39:58,900
Right?
Look at that all there.

718
00:39:58,900 –> 00:40:00,200
He is.
Driving that car again.

719
00:40:00,200 –> 00:40:02,000
Your I thinks he’s a real
business.

720
00:40:02,000 –> 00:40:03,500
Doesn’t need in that little
vehicle.

721
00:40:03,600 –> 00:40:06,200
That’s a nice little number.
It looks real flash.

722
00:40:06,700 –> 00:40:09,200
Is he really deserve that?
I wonder why.

723
00:40:09,200 –> 00:40:10,800
In those days, it was camel but
the same thing.

724
00:40:10,800 –> 00:40:14,100
Maybe joke has stripes on his
camel to I don’t know, okay?

725
00:40:14,100 –> 00:40:17,000
And it could be anything.
Number two, here’s a second

726
00:40:17,000 –> 00:40:21,500
characteristic of Satan.
He’s stupid, right?

727
00:40:22,800 –> 00:40:28,300
He tells God that he’s wrong.
Is there really a species?

728
00:40:28,300 –> 00:40:30,300
So stupid on it?
Do we think that could have been

729
00:40:30,300 –> 00:40:33,300
an angel?
God says, look at this guy.

730
00:40:33,300 –> 00:40:36,900
He’s great.
And there is someone so stupid

731
00:40:36,900 –> 00:40:40,500
to say, well, God, you know,
you’re, you’re a pretty bright

732
00:40:40,500 –> 00:40:43,800
lad and all and nice job.
You’ve done on this universe,

733
00:40:43,800 –> 00:40:47,100
you’ve met and B plus you know,
whatever and yeah, you see a

734
00:40:47,100 –> 00:40:48,500
little something about job,
don’t you?

735
00:40:48,508 –> 00:40:51,500
But yeah, you see Guardian
missing something.

736
00:40:51,900 –> 00:40:54,900
I see a little More than you.
Do you see the outward

737
00:40:54,900 –> 00:40:56,100
appearance?
Don’t you have jobs

738
00:40:56,100 –> 00:40:59,500
righteousness, but I, I see it
all.

739
00:41:00,000 –> 00:41:03,600
Not only do I see jobs outward
righteousness but I know why.

740
00:41:03,600 –> 00:41:06,800
I know what drives it.
You’re a bit dumb God, sorry.

741
00:41:06,800 –> 00:41:08,100
You’ve missed the bigger
picture.

742
00:41:08,200 –> 00:41:13,300
Let me help you out, right?
I don’t think I cannot conceive

743
00:41:13,900 –> 00:41:17,400
of a Divine, angel of God,
taking that attitude.

744
00:41:17,800 –> 00:41:21,500
Can I conceive of a human being
that stupid?

745
00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:22,800
I’ve met?
One.

746
00:41:23,300 –> 00:41:26,200
All right you may have done too
and not just me by the way,

747
00:41:27,300 –> 00:41:28,500
right?
That’s one of the

748
00:41:28,500 –> 00:41:31,400
characteristics of Satan.
He’s not the smartest.

749
00:41:33,000 –> 00:41:35,800
This is a lovely one when he’s
shown to be wrong.

750
00:41:35,900 –> 00:41:38,800
Instead of saying, okay, you
win, he just shift the

751
00:41:38,800 –> 00:41:41,400
goalposts.
I mean, didn’t it didn’t Satan’s

752
00:41:41,400 –> 00:41:43,800
a take away his toys and he will
curse you.

753
00:41:43,800 –> 00:41:45,900
And God says, okay, fine there.
Go the toys.

754
00:41:46,200 –> 00:41:47,700
Look.
He’s still, blesses me.

755
00:41:47,700 –> 00:41:50,600
Hi able well, yeah, maybe but,
but now I got a better one.

756
00:41:50,700 –> 00:41:52,900
No, I’m not wrong yet.
No, actually, it’s because you

757
00:41:52,900 –> 00:41:54,500
didn’t as yeah.
I love just thought of

758
00:41:54,508 –> 00:41:56,100
something.
You should have actually struck

759
00:41:56,100 –> 00:41:59,400
his flesh to then I’ll be right.
You see?

760
00:41:59,700 –> 00:42:01,500
Who is it?
That moves the goalposts when

761
00:42:01,500 –> 00:42:04,000
they’ve been shown.
Wrong Angels.

762
00:42:04,400 –> 00:42:07,100
Do we know that from scripture?
Is that something we’ve come to

763
00:42:07,100 –> 00:42:09,500
learn about angels?
Is that something that brother

764
00:42:09,500 –> 00:42:12,100
Barry will be teaching us about
angels that whenever they’re

765
00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:13,900
shown to be wrong?
We move the goalposts.

766
00:42:14,300 –> 00:42:18,600
Know we’ve met those people.
They are here Among Us and alas.

767
00:42:18,700 –> 00:42:23,100
They are here in this room and
even on this platform we shift

768
00:42:23,100 –> 00:42:25,700
the goalposts when we’re known
to be wrong because we don’t

769
00:42:25,700 –> 00:42:29,100
want to look to be wrong.
And when something doesn’t work

770
00:42:29,100 –> 00:42:32,200
out, the way we predicted that,
it would we find some reason to

771
00:42:32,300 –> 00:42:34,100
Justify that and say, oh, there
was a missing element that I

772
00:42:34,100 –> 00:42:35,800
didn’t tell you about before,
but if you did that, then I’d be

773
00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:37,300
right.
That’s us.

774
00:42:38,200 –> 00:42:43,000
And finally, Satan’s Delight, is
the downfall of a righteous man,

775
00:42:43,600 –> 00:42:46,400
I find it impossible to
conceive.

776
00:42:46,700 –> 00:42:52,200
That an angel of the Divine host
takes any Delight whatsoever in

777
00:42:52,200 –> 00:42:54,600
the downfall of a righteous,
man.

778
00:42:55,400 –> 00:42:58,800
That’s us, isn’t it?
Don’t we all celebrate it,

779
00:42:58,800 –> 00:43:01,200
particularly even even in his a
challenging thing.

780
00:43:02,200 –> 00:43:05,300
Even when we’re looking outside
of our community, let’s say

781
00:43:05,500 –> 00:43:08,700
we’re looking at a television
evangelist and suddenly he’s

782
00:43:08,700 –> 00:43:11,300
exposed having committed some
terrible sin.

783
00:43:12,000 –> 00:43:14,500
And don’t we Rejoice, ha ha.
I thought so e.

784
00:43:15,400 –> 00:43:17,700
That’s us, isn’t it?
I don’t think we should be doing

785
00:43:17,700 –> 00:43:20,300
that.
Not every failure is a

786
00:43:20,308 –> 00:43:24,000
hypocrite, very difficult to
tell the difference between a

787
00:43:24,000 –> 00:43:27,500
failure and hypocrites because
the external behavior of the to

788
00:43:27,500 –> 00:43:30,700
is exactly the same unless we
can see the heart.

789
00:43:31,000 –> 00:43:32,600
We can never tell the one from
the other.

790
00:43:33,300 –> 00:43:35,500
We should impute the best
motives that we’re looking at

791
00:43:35,500 –> 00:43:38,700
failures and not Hypocrites
except in the case of the one

792
00:43:38,700 –> 00:43:43,300
human heart that we really do
know about then we can judge

793
00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:46,400
Satan’s Delight.
Is the downfall of a righteous

794
00:43:46,400 –> 00:43:49,000
man considering then all of
Satan’s.

795
00:43:49,100 –> 00:43:50,700
Any characteristics.
One, two, three.

796
00:43:50,700 –> 00:43:53,600
Four of them here.
I think we have very little

797
00:43:53,600 –> 00:43:56,400
doubt in identifying him as a
human.

798
00:43:57,900 –> 00:44:01,500
It’s also consistent with what
is known between angels and Men.

799
00:44:02,800 –> 00:44:05,300
What does that mean?
No idea what that means.

800
00:44:05,300 –> 00:44:06,800
I’ll rewrite that.
Oh, right.

801
00:44:06,800 –> 00:44:08,300
Okay, we looked at that passage
earlier.

802
00:44:09,100 –> 00:44:13,000
Divine Angels, do not commit
slander Angels, although they

803
00:44:13,000 –> 00:44:15,200
are stronger and more powerful
than men do.

804
00:44:15,200 –> 00:44:18,600
Not bring slanderous accusations
against such beings in the

805
00:44:18,600 –> 00:44:21,900
presence of the Lord.
It means that the origin of

806
00:44:21,900 –> 00:44:24,900
Satan going to and fro in the
Earth has a very natural

807
00:44:24,900 –> 00:44:27,200
interpretation.
We learn from the book of James

808
00:44:27,700 –> 00:44:30,500
James, that’s where Temptation
comes from.

809
00:44:30,900 –> 00:44:33,700
The more you see in front of
your eyes, that’s what drives

810
00:44:33,700 –> 00:44:35,600
your Temptations.
What you see?

811
00:44:36,100 –> 00:44:38,800
So you go to and fro in the
earth and you see more and more.

812
00:44:39,100 –> 00:44:41,100
That’s humans that do that.
That’s ask that.

813
00:44:41,100 –> 00:44:43,600
Does that?
And finally Satan is actually to

814
00:44:43,600 –> 00:44:46,300
blame Right.
That’s something that Joe The

815
00:44:46,300 –> 00:44:50,200
Book of Job makes clear Satan is
to blame for this mess was a

816
00:44:50,207 –> 00:44:55,800
Divine Angel to blame now.
No, it is the human heart that

817
00:44:55,800 –> 00:45:00,000
is to blame for the manifold,
evils and disasters, and

818
00:45:00,000 –> 00:45:03,700
Associated pain that we see in
this otherwise wonderful world

819
00:45:03,900 –> 00:45:06,900
around us.
Here’s an interesting concept

820
00:45:06,900 –> 00:45:09,200
that I find very difficult to
articulate.

821
00:45:09,200 –> 00:45:11,700
So work with me here because I’m
probably going to make a mess of

822
00:45:11,700 –> 00:45:14,000
explaining this.
But what I want to try and point

823
00:45:14,000 –> 00:45:18,300
out is that only with this
interpretation of Satan Being

824
00:45:18,300 –> 00:45:22,100
Human and specifically, the
three friends, does the apparent

825
00:45:22,100 –> 00:45:27,700
barter between God and Satan.
Make any sense because without

826
00:45:27,700 –> 00:45:32,000
it, the barter, in the early
chapters of job becomes like

827
00:45:32,000 –> 00:45:34,400
Greek myth.
What I mean by that is if you

828
00:45:34,400 –> 00:45:38,200
know much Greek mythology.
The gods, the Greek gods, these

829
00:45:38,200 –> 00:45:42,400
characters that are invented in
stories a heartless, right?

830
00:45:42,700 –> 00:45:45,100
You know, to Greek gods will sit
around and say hmmm.

831
00:45:45,400 –> 00:45:48,000
I’ve been if you smack him in
the head he’ll fall over and

832
00:45:48,000 –> 00:45:50,800
said, okay, I’ll bet you.
I finally watched it could ding.

833
00:45:51,100 –> 00:45:52,300
Oh, you were right or I’ll pay
them?

834
00:45:52,300 –> 00:45:55,200
Well, I bet you if you break his
back, his wife will catch your

835
00:45:55,200 –> 00:45:55,600
eye.
Watch.

836
00:45:56,300 –> 00:45:57,900
No, she didn’t know you win that
one, too.

837
00:45:58,300 –> 00:46:01,600
This is how the Greek stories.
Look at them, the guards toy

838
00:46:01,600 –> 00:46:04,800
with men.
They treat them just like

839
00:46:04,800 –> 00:46:09,300
playthings for their amusement
and they torture them and reward

840
00:46:09,300 –> 00:46:10,700
them and lift them up and throw
them down.

841
00:46:10,700 –> 00:46:13,300
Just for fun is that Israel’s
God?

842
00:46:14,300 –> 00:46:19,100
Is that your guard set mine?
Because that is who our God is.

843
00:46:19,100 –> 00:46:22,500
If Satan is anything other than
this, why would God into the

844
00:46:22,500 –> 00:46:24,500
Baza?
Hey, why don’t you mess around

845
00:46:24,500 –> 00:46:26,800
with him and see what happens?
Why would God do that?

846
00:46:28,200 –> 00:46:31,500
God is Not capricious.
The Greek gods certainly are

847
00:46:31,700 –> 00:46:34,000
those stories but our God, the
true God.

848
00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:36,600
The one God is Not capricious
and not only is he not

849
00:46:36,600 –> 00:46:38,900
capricious.
It is not his desire that any

850
00:46:38,900 –> 00:46:44,200
should perish and so only then
can we see that the battery is

851
00:46:44,200 –> 00:46:49,200
actually key to God, convicting
eliphaz bildad and zophar and

852
00:46:49,200 –> 00:46:51,700
through their conviction, saving
them.

853
00:46:52,600 –> 00:46:54,600
Right.
God, enters the battle with

854
00:46:54,600 –> 00:46:58,100
Satan in order to save him.
It’s an act of Salvation.

855
00:46:58,400 –> 00:47:01,700
And by being an act of
Salvation, you do understand

856
00:47:01,700 –> 00:47:05,600
why, our God would get involved
without it being an act of

857
00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:08,400
Salvation.
Without this being Satan who

858
00:47:08,400 –> 00:47:11,700
saved, why would God mess around
in any of this way.

859
00:47:11,700 –> 00:47:15,500
This is a capricious act,
otherwise, unless Satan is saved

860
00:47:15,500 –> 00:47:18,900
by the book.
Barter it serves no purpose of

861
00:47:18,900 –> 00:47:21,500
Salvation.
Joe was already righteous,

862
00:47:21,500 –> 00:47:23,300
that’s not to say Joe.
And changed by The Experience

863
00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:26,600
because he is and God would not
have had any part of it.

864
00:47:26,600 –> 00:47:29,800
I suggest you I don’t do a good
job of.

865
00:47:30,200 –> 00:47:32,000
I know it’s hard to articulate
that thought both.

866
00:47:32,000 –> 00:47:34,400
I think it very clearly and
speak it very unclearly.

867
00:47:34,400 –> 00:47:37,500
So hopefully you can kind of
untangle the mess of the words.

868
00:47:38,400 –> 00:47:40,100
And so this is our last slide
for today.

869
00:47:40,500 –> 00:47:43,100
What are the implications?
If we find that theory

870
00:47:43,100 –> 00:47:47,100
acceptable, what are the
implications of Satan being the

871
00:47:47,100 –> 00:47:49,300
heart of man for our ongoing
studies in job?

872
00:47:49,300 –> 00:47:52,200
I find three first of all, satan
does not.

873
00:47:52,300 –> 00:47:54,400
Disappear from the text.
That’s just the point of

874
00:47:54,400 –> 00:47:55,600
Interest, more than anything
else.

875
00:47:55,800 –> 00:47:59,100
It means he’s there all the way
through the whole book.

876
00:47:59,300 –> 00:48:01,600
Has a righteous man in it, and
it’s got Satan in it.

877
00:48:02,000 –> 00:48:04,400
It’s that conflict.
It becomes a very, very

878
00:48:04,400 –> 00:48:07,000
different book.
Now, if Satan just shows up in

879
00:48:07,000 –> 00:48:09,100
Chapter 2 and then goes off for
a cappuccino, never comes back.

880
00:48:10,400 –> 00:48:12,200
Why on Earth?
Do we have 20 chapters of Jobe?

881
00:48:12,200 –> 00:48:14,100
Bickering with three other guys?
What’s the point?

882
00:48:14,400 –> 00:48:17,500
All right, it means the core of
the book.

883
00:48:17,500 –> 00:48:19,800
That’s the point.
I just said, actually Joe versus

884
00:48:19,800 –> 00:48:22,600
his three friends or amidst his
three friends become Highly

885
00:48:22,600 –> 00:48:26,700
relevant to our study of the
Book of Job and most importantly

886
00:48:26,700 –> 00:48:30,300
of all the core of the book.
It disappears off the bottom,

887
00:48:30,300 –> 00:48:32,800
I’m sorry.
The core of the book is now

888
00:48:32,800 –> 00:48:35,700
highly relevant to my life.
Why?

889
00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:39,500
Because jobs experience, as
recorded in the Book of Job is

890
00:48:39,500 –> 00:48:42,500
now the same as mine.
No, I haven’t lost all my

891
00:48:42,500 –> 00:48:44,500
children.
I haven’t been Afflicted in the

892
00:48:44,500 –> 00:48:50,000
way Joe was, but I do spend
every single day wrestling with

893
00:48:50,000 –> 00:48:53,100
Satan.
This Satan, it’s the Same Satan

894
00:48:53,100 –> 00:48:56,100
that Joe Brussels with.
I can get up at 6:00 in the

895
00:48:56,100 –> 00:49:01,400
morning and by 06:01 at the
latest the battle is once again

896
00:49:01,400 –> 00:49:05,800
in joined and he’s up and he’s
awake and he’s suggesting all

897
00:49:05,800 –> 00:49:09,900
sorts of very desirable things.
To me, none of which are in

898
00:49:09,900 –> 00:49:15,600
accord with my father’s will
Satan enters and he is a very

899
00:49:15,600 –> 00:49:19,300
permanent presence in my life
and I suggest to you, he is a

900
00:49:19,300 –> 00:49:23,300
very permanent presence in the
Book of Job and that’s what

901
00:49:23,300 –> 00:49:26,400
makes this.
A wonderful and beautiful book.

902
00:49:33,900 –> 00:49:36,600
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