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\nNothing happens.
\nCan I press? <\/p>\n
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\nLet’s go back there, shall we?
\nThere we are. <\/p>\n
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\nLet’s just go there for the
\nminute. <\/p>\n
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\nI think that forgiveness, and
\nI’m sure a lot of you would <\/p>\n
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\nagree as well, that forgiveness
\nis probably one of the most <\/p>\n
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\nBible to think about. <\/p>\n
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\nIt really is important because
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\nThe chairman has really sort of <\/p>\n
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\nindicated it’s to understand, to
\nget a bit of a handle on <\/p>\n
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\nforgiveness.
\nIt’s really understand God’s <\/p>\n
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\ncharacter and it’s a journey for
\nall of us. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I’m well and truly on that
\njourney and nowhere. <\/p>\n
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\nNear the end of it I.
\nCan tell you because every time <\/p>\n
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\nI do this, this is about the
\nsixth time that we’ve done this.<\/p>\n
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\nI’m just learning something new
\nand I’m just changing this or <\/p>\n
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\nchanging that.
\nAs we grow in in in our faith <\/p>\n
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\nand I guess maturity in in in
\nterms of our standing with God. <\/p>\n
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\nBut it is a core.
\nElement of God’s character. <\/p>\n
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\nI would, I would say, go as far
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\nIt is the.
\nMost core element of his <\/p>\n
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\ncharacter.
\nIt’s about having a relationship<\/p>\n
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\nwith God, and it comes brothers
\nand sisters from. <\/p>\n
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\nI think the single.
\nMost central part of God’s <\/p>\n
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\nthinking, and that is that God
\nis love, and it’s the one of the<\/p>\n
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\nfirst things that we see as a
\nresult of that love that he <\/p>\n
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\nwants to forgive.
\nHe doesn’t doesn’t do it <\/p>\n
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\ngrudgingly.
\nHe actually wants to forgive. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd when we let God forgive,
\nit’s. <\/p>\n
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\nTotal total forgiveness.
\nNo grudges, No thoughts. <\/p>\n
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\nHe even forgets it.
\nHe has the power to forget your <\/p>\n
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\nsin.
\nSo when you get to the judgment <\/p>\n
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\nscene and you might talk to the
\nAngel and say, I’m not worried <\/p>\n
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\nabout this thing, he might say
\nto you, what thing’s that? <\/p>\n
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\nNo recollection.
\nIt’s gone. <\/p>\n
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\nYou discussed that years ago
\nwith God. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s gone from you.
\nI think God does have have the <\/p>\n
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\npower to forgive properly.
\nAnd to forget sin. <\/p>\n
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\nHe remembers them no more and I
\nwill forgive you, despite what <\/p>\n
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\nwe have done against him.
\nYou know why? <\/p>\n
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\nActually, God Forgives Psalm 79
\nand verse 9 says that He <\/p>\n
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\nforgives us for his namesake.
\nIsn’t that interesting, you <\/p>\n
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\nthink?
\nWonder why? <\/p>\n
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\nWonder why that?
\nWhat does that mean to forgive <\/p>\n
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\nfor my namesake?
\nWhat’s God’s name? <\/p>\n
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\nWell, we know that from from the
\nearly chapters of Exodus. <\/p>\n
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\nHis name is Yahweh.
\nI will be who I will be, or I <\/p>\n
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\nwill be manifested into a
\nmultitude of people. <\/p>\n
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\nSo in order for God to be
\nmanifested in a multitude of <\/p>\n
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\ngroup of people, He must <\/p>\n
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\nforgive.
\nSo I will forgive for the sake <\/p>\n
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\nof my purpose.
\nFor the sake of my name, my name<\/p>\n
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\nis my purpose.
\nHere’s a little insight into the<\/p>\n
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\nGod that we serve.
\nYou ever listen to this? <\/p>\n
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\nThis is Luke’s.
\nLuke’s 6. <\/p>\n
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\nVerse 35 and turn it up because
\nof time. <\/p>\n
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\nBut he says this, but love ye
\nyour enemies. <\/p>\n
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\nDidn’t say love your brothers
\nand sisters, Love your enemies, <\/p>\n
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\ndo good and lend.
\nHoping for nothing again, and <\/p>\n
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\nyour reward shall be great, and
\nye shall be the children of the <\/p>\n
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\nhighest.
\nFor he is he is kind to the <\/p>\n
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\nGod is kind to the evil <\/p>\n
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\nremarkable being.
\nBe therefore merciful, as your <\/p>\n
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\nFather also is merciful.
\nJudge not, and you shall not be <\/p>\n
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\nCondemn not, and you shall not <\/p>\n
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\nForgive, and you shall be <\/p>\n
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\nforgiven.
\nThat’s the God who we serve <\/p>\n
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\nsince the rain upon the just and
\nthe unjust. <\/p>\n
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\nLoves his enemies.
\nThere was a point in all our <\/p>\n
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\nlives that we were enemies with
\nGod, but we’re now reconciled to<\/p>\n
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\nhim.
\nSo as we’ve progressed through <\/p>\n
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\nthese studies, we hope to answer
\nbrothers and sisters, a lot of <\/p>\n
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\nthose questions that do come up
\nfrom time to time. <\/p>\n
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\nQuestions.
\nQuestions like this. <\/p>\n
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\nHow do I know I’m forgiven?
\nWhere? <\/p>\n
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\nWhere in the Bible do I find
\nthat? <\/p>\n
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\nHow do I know I’m forgiven?
\nDoes God forgive immediately, or<\/p>\n
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\nconfession for a while? <\/p>\n
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\nrepetitious request? <\/p>\n
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\nI have nagging feelings of
\nguilt. <\/p>\n
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\nActually, let me go there.
\nIs that right? <\/p>\n
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\nNext 10. <\/p>\n
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\nHere we are.
\nHere we are. <\/p>\n
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\nHere we are.
\nListen, I have some nagging <\/p>\n
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\nfeelings of guilt.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n
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\nWhy do I have those?
\nShould I ever forgive myself, <\/p>\n
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\neven though I know God has?
\nIf I repeat the sin over and <\/p>\n
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\none? <\/p>\n
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\nShould I wait for them to repent
\nbefore I forgive? <\/p>\n
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\nAre there conditions to God’s
\nforgiveness? <\/p>\n
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\nIf so, what are they?
\nWe’re going to look at all <\/p>\n
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\nUnder the law, Why did God want <\/p>\n
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\nIs he bloodthirsty? <\/p>\n
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\nWe go to the next one. <\/p>\n
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\nWhy was God pleased to bruise <\/p>\n
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\nWhy did did that make God happy?<\/p>\n
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\nWell, he was pleased to bruise <\/p>\n
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\nWhy did Christ have to die such <\/p>\n
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\na cruel way and not an old man?
\nAre there big and little sins? <\/p>\n
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\nDoes God really and actually
\nforget sin and will? <\/p>\n
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\nAll sin be reviewed at the
\nJudgment. <\/p>\n
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\nSeat So we’re searching some
\nsearching questions, aren’t <\/p>\n
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\nSo God willing, we’re going to <\/p>\n
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\nand giving you hopefully some <\/p>\n
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\nOf these things as we move <\/p>\n
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\nsisters, it’s an interesting <\/p>\n
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\nthing when you when we do a
\nsubject on forgiveness, it can <\/p>\n
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\nhave the tendency to stir up old
\nthings in our in our minds. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I readily acknowledge that
\nsubjects like this touch us <\/p>\n
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\nhave other thoughts or. <\/p>\n
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\nQuestions.
\nArising from this matter, which <\/p>\n
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\nSo I think that that feedback <\/p>\n
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\nI certainly then hope don’t have<\/p>\n
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\nthings and very much learning as<\/p>\n
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\nas we go along with you
\ntogether. <\/p>\n
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\nBut let’s have a little think
\nabout sin then for a start. <\/p>\n
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\nSo in order to appreciate the
\nwonder and the beauty of <\/p>\n
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\nforgiveness, surely we need to
\nknow really. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd actually get a handle on sin
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\nHave to think about it, because
\nwe tend to negate it a lot in <\/p>\n
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\nWe tend to diminish it a lot. <\/p>\n
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\nSo let’s have a little think
\nabout sin. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat does sin do in terms of our
\nrelationship with God, with our?<\/p>\n
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\nFather, what does it do?
\nWell, sin breaks the connection.<\/p>\n
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\nIt breaks the connection that we
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\nIt separates us.
\nBut forgiveness reconnects. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s what God is trying to do.<\/p>\n
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\nhim again, He does not like <\/p>\n
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\nhe’ll do everything he can to be<\/p>\n
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\nunited with you Again, it’s
\nabout reconciliation with God. <\/p>\n
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\nYou might.
\nRemember this quote, this is <\/p>\n
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\nquite a a famous one that John
\nCarter said he said this in his <\/p>\n
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\nbook Delight in God’s Law.
\nHe said sin ruptures. <\/p>\n
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\nThe good relationship between
\nGod and man, it’s a relationship<\/p>\n
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\nwhich is illustrated by the
\nchange from living in the Garden<\/p>\n
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\nof Eden to the exclusion from
\nits paradiasic life. <\/p>\n
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\nSo he’s basically saying a
\nreally good example of the <\/p>\n
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\ndisruptive nature of sin is what
\noccurred in the Garden of Eden. <\/p>\n
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\nAt first, God walked in the
\ngarden the cool of the day, and <\/p>\n
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\nhe often spoke to Adam and Eve.
\nIt was a lovely relationship <\/p>\n
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\nafterwards.
\nFlaming sword barred entrance to<\/p>\n
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\nit.
\nIn this was exhibited the <\/p>\n
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\naltered relationship that sin
\nhad caused, and sin affected <\/p>\n
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\nman’s world as well as man.
\nHimself a cursed ground, a life <\/p>\n
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\nof toil and sorrow, Thorns and
\nthistles remained as continual <\/p>\n
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\nreminders that sin leaves its
\nafter effects and its <\/p>\n
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\nconsequences.
\nSo this subject then is really, <\/p>\n
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\nreally central to our walk and
\nour relationship with God. <\/p>\n
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\nBut also it has a huge bearing
\nbrothers and sisters on our walk<\/p>\n
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\nand relationship with each
\nother. <\/p>\n
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\nIt really does.
\nI’m gonna show you that in fact <\/p>\n
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\nour relationships with with each
\nother is one in one of the <\/p>\n
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\nconditions on which God will
\nforgive us. <\/p>\n
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\nTrue untainted forgiveness
\nbetween each other is nothing <\/p>\n
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\nshort of God manifestation to
\neach other. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s absolutely God to each
\nother. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s what it is.
\nIt’s one of the best <\/p>\n
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\ndemonstrations of who God really
\nis. <\/p>\n
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\nSo what do we know about God?
\nWell, we know this. <\/p>\n
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\nWe know that God is merciful and
\nHe is gracious. <\/p>\n
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\nHe’s long-suffering, and He’s
\nabundant in goodness and truth <\/p>\n
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\nnow.
\nYou think of all those <\/p>\n
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\nqualities, Just think of them.
\nHe’s merciful. <\/p>\n
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\nNow, if someone’s merciful,
\nthey’re full of mercy. <\/p>\n
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\nDoesn’t make them forgiving.
\nWhat about gracious, undeserved <\/p>\n
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\ndivine favor?
\nUnmerited divine favor? <\/p>\n
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\nGracious.
\nYou have to be forgiving it’s <\/p>\n
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\nlong-suffering?
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\nto be patient or slow to anger.
\nAnd if you’re a very, very <\/p>\n
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\npatient person, very patient,
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\nforgiving, no doubt.
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\nKiss head kindness. <\/p>\n
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\nThat means you are willing.
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\nHe’s very kind.
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\nforgive.
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\nThis is what John says.
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\nIs something that we can depend
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\nsin.
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\niniquity, transgression and sin.
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\nIt’s a part of God’s, of God’s
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\nVerse.
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\nI hear you say The bit that says
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\nguilty.
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\nWell, here it reads like this,
\nthat by no means clear. <\/p>\n
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\nThe guilty visiting the iniquity
\nof the fathers upon the children<\/p>\n
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\nand upon the children’s children
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\nNow there’s a few schools of
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\nAnd I want to tell you, the one
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\nBecause of our time, that will
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\nNow the Hebrew let.
\nMe tell you what? <\/p>\n
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\nThe Hebrew you won’t understand.
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\nHere’s the Hebrew Nake la
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\nThat’s the Hebrew for that
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\nIt should be rendered.
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\nguilty.
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\nreally good commentator on the
\nHebrew text says this that it’s <\/p>\n
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\nthat little bit of section of
\nthat verse has been <\/p>\n
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\nmisunderstood.
\nAnd misinterpreted. <\/p>\n
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\nMisinterpreted by all our
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\nAnd you actually know that the
\nAV my, my Bible. <\/p>\n
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\nHere, I’ve got the Oxford.
\nVersion of the Bible. <\/p>\n
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\nIs having trouble with it as
\nwell because the words the <\/p>\n
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\nguilty, they’re in italics.
\nThey’re not even there, nor they<\/p>\n
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\nshould be acquitting him, who is
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\nThe translators have really
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\nof the.
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\nupon the children’s children
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\nNow that sounds like face value.
\nThat sounds like if Dad does <\/p>\n
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\nsomething wrong, all the kids
\nare going to cop it. <\/p>\n
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\nIf grandpa great great, great,
\nGrandpa did something else, <\/p>\n
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\nsomething wrong, I’m going to
\nget it. <\/p>\n
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\nDoesn’t mean that at all.
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\nDeuteronomy 5 verse nine I think
\nputs a property says Now listen <\/p>\n
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\nto this for I, Yahweh thy God am
\na jealous God visiting the <\/p>\n
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\niniquity of the fathers upon the
\nchildren, and to the third and <\/p>\n
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\n4th generation of them that hate
\nme. <\/p>\n
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\nAh, so this is all about
\nprolonging the hatred down <\/p>\n
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\nthrough the generations.
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\nIbarram.
\nRemember, the sons of Korra <\/p>\n
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\nseparated themselves from their
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\nwent on to write many of the of
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\nMany of them.
\nSo here’s how that verse I think<\/p>\n
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\nshould read.
\nKeeping mercy for thousands for <\/p>\n
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\ngiving iniquity, transgression
\nand sin. <\/p>\n
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\nAcquitting him who is not
\ninnocent. <\/p>\n
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\nAcquitting the the guilty.
\nVisiting the iniquity of the <\/p>\n
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\nfathers upon the children, and
\nupon the children’s children <\/p>\n
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\nunto the 3rd and 4th generation
\nof them that hate me. <\/p>\n
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\nSo God reacts then to every
\ngeneration and persons according<\/p>\n
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\nto their personal response to
\nHim, right? <\/p>\n
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\nSo not according to who your
\nparents were, who your granddad <\/p>\n
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\nwas, That’s you make your own
\nchoice in relationship, in in <\/p>\n
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\nrelation to your.
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\nIf, however, we perpetuate that <\/p>\n
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\nhatred as we can actually see it
\namongst the Arabs and the Jews, <\/p>\n
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\nwe can see this perpetual hatred
\nthat going. <\/p>\n
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\nfor themselves, and of course, <\/p>\n
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\nthat’s what really God is
\nunable. <\/p>\n
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\nTo work with.
\nHe cannot work with people who <\/p>\n
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\nutterly hate him.
\nOr. <\/p>\n
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\nbeing this is to consider, that
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\nspecks of dust as us human
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\nThis is remarkable, remarkable <\/p>\n
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\nDoesn’t that make you stop and <\/p>\n
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\nYou and I both know that we are <\/p>\n
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\nin need of so much forgiveness
\nin our lives that we can’t come <\/p>\n
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\nof God’s character. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat a challenge that is.
\nSo in order for us to really <\/p>\n
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\nforgiveness, we’ve got to look <\/p>\n
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\nat the terrible.
\nAnd appreciate the terrible <\/p>\n
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\nWe do need to know that we’ve <\/p>\n
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\ngot to get down to that that
\nvalley, as it were, to <\/p>\n
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\nappreciate the heights of the
\nheavenlies. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’ve got to We’ve got to
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\nour nature will go.
\nYet the the absolute wonder of <\/p>\n
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\nGod’s forgiveness.
\nWe need to own sin, brothers and<\/p>\n
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\nsisters, without minimizing the
\nmagnitude of our failings. <\/p>\n
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\nOwn it.
\nBe honest with God. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd we need often to have an an
\nhonest appraisal of ourselves. <\/p>\n
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\nto examine ourselves every <\/p>\n
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\nSunday morning.
\nExamine yourself. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat?
\nDo you see? <\/p>\n
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\nWhen I look in the mirror, I
\ndon’t like it. <\/p>\n
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\nI’m I’m not talking about what I
\nactually see in the mirror. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s bad enough, but when I
\nreally consider. <\/p>\n
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\nMy own proclivities and my own
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\nIt’s a very, very uncomfortable
\nplace to be. <\/p>\n
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\nSo personal acknowledgment of
\nsin will bring us to Christ. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s that’s the.
\nDesign of it. <\/p>\n
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\nIt brings us to Christ.
\nYou see, because we are all <\/p>\n
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\nsick.
\nRemember what Jesus Christ said.<\/p>\n
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\nIt’s only those that acknowledge
\nthat sickness will go to a <\/p>\n
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\nphysician.
\nYou’re not going to go to a <\/p>\n
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\ndoctor unless you can.
\nYou can feel that sickness in <\/p>\n
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\nyourself.
\nOtherwise, nothing wrong with <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s nothing wrong with me. <\/p>\n
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\nI’m actually quite a good person
\nat heart and I intend showing <\/p>\n
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\nhow good I am to everybody else.
\nWe will not go to the doctor. <\/p>\n
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\nUnless we know actually.
\nHow that disease is at work in <\/p>\n
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\nour minds.
\nRemember what David said, David <\/p>\n
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\nsaid there is a loathsome
\ndisease in my loins, meaning <\/p>\n
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\nI’m.
\nAll. <\/p>\n
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\nMy children and all my my
\nforebears and everybody else is <\/p>\n
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\ngoing to have the same rotten
\nbias that I’ve got to sin. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’re just passing it on.
\nHe saw it for what it was, you <\/p>\n
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\nknow, sometimes our diagnosis of
\nother people’s illnesses. <\/p>\n
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\nComes easier than diagnosing our
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\nThat’s another element of human
\nnature as well, and that’s why <\/p>\n
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\nof Christ’s excitation when he
\nsaid look, just be very careful,<\/p>\n
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\nhe said about trying to take out
\nthe splinter in your brother’s <\/p>\n
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\neye.
\nBecause there could be an awful <\/p>\n
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\nbig log just hanging out your
\nown eye. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd you, it’s so big you
\nactually can’t see it. <\/p>\n
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\nWe we can pretend to be.
\nBlinded by our own affliction, <\/p>\n
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\ndreadful state without <\/p>\n
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\nforgiveness, and we have by
\nnature the same problem as the <\/p>\n
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\nPharisee.
\nI don’t think the Pharisee was <\/p>\n
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\nsomething extraordinary.
\nHe wasn’t. <\/p>\n
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\nHe was very, very normal, a very
\nnormal person. <\/p>\n
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\nHe was full of pride.
\nHe was motivated by the flesh. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd the lust of the flesh and
\nthe lust of the eyes that sound <\/p>\n
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\nfamiliar to you.
\nI can relate to the Pharisee. <\/p>\n
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\nHorrible.
\nIt’s a it’s a it’s a really <\/p>\n
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\nhorrible state that we’re we’re
\nborn into. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I not only have that inbred
\nbias to sin the same as <\/p>\n
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\n00:21:33,310 –> 00:21:36,390
\neverybody else, we all have a
\nbias to to justify those. <\/p>\n
342
\n00:21:36,390 –> 00:21:40,590
\nSins as well.
\nWe justify them to ourselves so <\/p>\n
343
\n00:21:40,590 –> 00:21:43,830
\nthat we feel better about life,
\nor we justify them to other <\/p>\n
344
\n00:21:43,830 –> 00:21:46,070
\npeople as well.
\nThe reason I did this? <\/p>\n
345
\n00:21:46,110 –> 00:21:49,150
\nOh, yes, the reason I did that.
\nSee. <\/p>\n
346
\n00:21:50,070 –> 00:21:51,630
\nWere you there at that?
\nOh, well, yeah. <\/p>\n
347
\n00:21:52,550 –> 00:22:00,430
\nYou need to know the back story.
\nWell, you see, my parents when I<\/p>\n
348
\n00:22:00,430 –> 00:22:12,490
\nwas younger, we like to
\nrationalize whenever there’s an <\/p>\n
349
\n00:22:12,490 –> 00:22:15,890
\nopportunity to blame something
\nelse to blame. <\/p>\n
350
\n00:22:15,890 –> 00:22:19,880
\nSomeone else?
\nGive plausible excuses. <\/p>\n
351
\n00:22:21,320 –> 00:22:26,320
\nWe generally will disown sin if
\nwe can, because it makes us feel<\/p>\n
352
\n00:22:26,320 –> 00:22:28,400
\nshameful.
\nThat’s the whole that’s part of <\/p>\n
353
\n00:22:28,400 –> 00:22:31,120
\nthe in fact, that’s part of the
\nthat feeling of shame. <\/p>\n
354
\n00:22:32,080 –> 00:22:34,280
\nGod says you’re actually on the
\nway you’ve started. <\/p>\n
355
\n00:22:34,560 –> 00:22:36,000
\nI need that shame to be there.
\nYou. <\/p>\n
356
\n00:22:36,240 –> 00:22:37,240
\nI need you to.
\nFeel that? <\/p>\n
357
\n00:22:37,800 –> 00:22:39,000
\nIt’s not a very nice thing, is
\nit? <\/p>\n
358
\n00:22:42,800 –> 00:22:44,240
\nThis tendency is nothing new, of
\ncourse. <\/p>\n
359
\n00:22:44,240 –> 00:22:48,470
\nRemember what Adam said.
\nAdam said to God, Adam said. <\/p>\n
360
\n00:22:49,950 –> 00:22:55,150
\nThe woman who you gave to be
\nwith me. <\/p>\n
361
\n00:22:56,270 –> 00:22:57,790
\nSo.
\nSo now he’s blaming God. <\/p>\n
362
\n00:22:57,790 –> 00:23:03,710
\nFirst up, the woman who you
\ngave, she gave me of the tree. <\/p>\n
363
\n00:23:05,270 –> 00:23:07,510
\nThere’s a lot of the things
\ngoing on here, says Adam. <\/p>\n
364
\n00:23:08,350 –> 00:23:10,590
\nAnd I was just an innocent
\nparty. <\/p>\n
365
\n00:23:10,590 –> 00:23:14,830
\nI came along here and I was just
\noffered a piece of fruit and. <\/p>\n
366
\n00:23:15,990 –> 00:23:18,230
\nYou know what?
\nI would probably actually be all<\/p>\n
367
\n00:23:18,230 –> 00:23:20,830
\nright if I was my own self and
\nwas here on my. <\/p>\n
368
\n00:23:20,830 –> 00:23:23,070
\nOwn I wouldn’t have gone that
\ndirection. <\/p>\n
369
\n00:23:27,470 –> 00:23:30,670
\nSo God turns to the woman and
\nsaid what happened? <\/p>\n
370
\n00:23:31,590 –> 00:23:37,550
\nThe woman says, well, serpent.
\nThe serpent begoiled me and I <\/p>\n
371
\n00:23:37,550 –> 00:23:39,150
\ndid.
\nNow it’s a funny thing, isn’t <\/p>\n
372
\n00:23:39,150 –> 00:23:41,910
\nit?
\nThose statements are both sort <\/p>\n
373
\n00:23:41,910 –> 00:23:44,510
\nof true.
\nThink there’s elements of truth <\/p>\n
374
\n00:23:44,550 –> 00:23:48,200
\nin those things.
\nWell, it was true, Adam. <\/p>\n
375
\n00:23:48,240 –> 00:23:52,680
\nAdam did add to the fruit his
\nwife did give That was actually <\/p>\n
376
\n00:23:52,680 –> 00:23:54,720
\ntrue.
\nIt’s a we can actually color, we<\/p>\n
377
\n00:23:54,720 –> 00:23:59,240
\ncan actually justify with these
\napparent truths, but they’re not<\/p>\n
378
\n00:23:59,240 –> 00:24:01,720
\nhonest.
\nWe’re not owning up, and God <\/p>\n
379
\n00:24:01,720 –> 00:24:04,320
\nwants us to be honest with
\nourselves. <\/p>\n
380
\n00:24:05,680 –> 00:24:09,960
\nWe have an instinct to buy.
\nUs to to to blame something else<\/p>\n
381
\n00:24:09,960 –> 00:24:12,280
\nfor our personal offenses
\nagainst God at the end of the <\/p>\n
382
\n00:24:12,280 –> 00:24:14,660
\nday.
\nThey are always going to be <\/p>\n
383
\n00:24:14,660 –> 00:24:17,180
\nagainst God.
\nAlways remember what David said <\/p>\n
384
\n00:24:17,580 –> 00:24:19,020
\nin relation to Bathsheba, he
\nsaid. <\/p>\n
385
\n00:24:19,220 –> 00:24:23,780
\nAgainst the and the.
\nOnly have I sinned? <\/p>\n
386
\n00:24:25,820 –> 00:24:29,620
\nThe end of the day that God
\nsaid, look, putting aside my <\/p>\n
387
\n00:24:29,620 –> 00:24:33,900
\nfamily and all my children and
\nBathsheba and you’re right. <\/p>\n
388
\n00:24:33,900 –> 00:24:37,460
\nPutting aside all that, in the
\nend it’s against God. <\/p>\n
389
\n00:24:37,460 –> 00:24:41,140
\nI’ve sinned.
\nGod wants us to be honest. <\/p>\n
390
\n00:24:42,680 –> 00:24:48,000
\nWe have to be truthful, open to
\nhim and Adam and Eve. <\/p>\n
391
\n00:24:48,000 –> 00:24:50,600
\nWhen they were blaming each
\nother or blaming the serpent, <\/p>\n
392
\n00:24:51,080 –> 00:24:53,360
\nthey were unable to be forgiven.
\nGod says. <\/p>\n
393
\n00:24:53,360 –> 00:24:59,200
\nUntil I can get you to talk
\nopenly and honestly to me, we <\/p>\n
394
\n00:24:59,200 –> 00:25:05,080
\ncannot move.
\nGod cannot forgive the <\/p>\n
395
\n00:25:05,120 –> 00:25:11,710
\nunacknowledged sin he wants to.
\nHe really does want it, but he <\/p>\n
396
\n00:25:11,710 –> 00:25:14,870
\ncan’t do it until we acknowledge
\nit to him in humility. <\/p>\n
397
\n00:25:15,390 –> 00:25:19,110
\nIf we cannot own our sin,
\nneither can God forgive us <\/p>\n
398
\n00:25:19,110 –> 00:25:24,150
\nbrothers and sisters and and
\nwhat we are then we are <\/p>\n
399
\n00:25:24,150 –> 00:25:31,070
\nspecialists at sin management.
\nSo when we walk down the <\/p>\n
400
\n00:25:31,070 –> 00:25:36,790
\ncorridor of life we we come to a
\nsign on the door and it says sin<\/p>\n
401
\n00:25:38,070 –> 00:25:42,520
\nmanager.
\nWe swing open the door and there<\/p>\n
402
\n00:25:42,520 –> 00:25:50,160
\ninside is you or me sitting back
\non a nice chair, feet up on the <\/p>\n
403
\n00:25:50,160 –> 00:25:55,880
\ndesk, hands across our stomach,
\nPretty smug. <\/p>\n
404
\n00:25:56,880 –> 00:26:00,960
\nWe’re we’re brilliant at it.
\nSin management, it makes us feel<\/p>\n
405
\n00:26:00,960 –> 00:26:05,920
\nso good, so much better.
\nIt’s actually fig leaf syndrome,<\/p>\n
406
\n00:26:06,040 –> 00:26:09,000
\nthat’s what it is.
\nWe’re trying to cover something.<\/p>\n
407
\n00:26:10,020 –> 00:26:13,340
\nBased on our own strengths, it’s
\nall fig leaf. <\/p>\n
408
\n00:26:14,500 –> 00:26:19,420
\nWe lie, we con, we trick
\nourselves into believing that we<\/p>\n
409
\n00:26:19,420 –> 00:26:23,140
\nare in fact are OK, that things
\nwill be just forgotten about and<\/p>\n
410
\n00:26:23,140 –> 00:26:25,500
\ndisappear overtime.
\nDo you know why I know that? <\/p>\n
411
\n00:26:25,500 –> 00:26:27,660
\nDidn’t know what?
\nI’m saying that because when I <\/p>\n
412
\n00:26:27,660 –> 00:26:30,060
\nsat down to write this, I
\nthought, this is me. <\/p>\n
413
\n00:26:30,300 –> 00:26:36,780
\nSo a lot of the thoughts you’re
\ngetting through this weekend is <\/p>\n
414
\n00:26:37,220 –> 00:26:40,220
\nmy thoughts.
\nBecause of my own experience <\/p>\n
415
\n00:26:40,220 –> 00:26:43,740
\nwith myself, the fact that I’ve
\nlied to myself, tricked myself, <\/p>\n
416
\n00:26:43,980 –> 00:26:48,660
\ntried to trick God, lie and and
\nand con myself, we. <\/p>\n
417
\n00:26:51,180 –> 00:26:52,860
\nCan’t do it.
\nWe have to be honest. <\/p>\n
418
\n00:26:53,940 –> 00:26:56,620
\nAnd the reason we do this
\nbecause we we want to settle. <\/p>\n
419
\n00:26:56,620 –> 00:26:59,340
\nWe there’s shame there.
\nWe want to settle in our own <\/p>\n
420
\n00:26:59,340 –> 00:27:02,900
\nminds.
\nThat which sin produces, we want<\/p>\n
421
\n00:27:02,900 –> 00:27:04,340
\nto feel better about.
\nOurselves. <\/p>\n
422
\n00:27:04,500 –> 00:27:06,420
\nIt’s an attempt.
\nTo deal with sin without. <\/p>\n
423
\n00:27:06,420 –> 00:27:11,960
\nGod, that’s what it is.
\nAnd we make our own covering <\/p>\n
424
\n00:27:12,240 –> 00:27:17,040
\neffectively.
\nSo the need to see sin as God <\/p>\n
425
\n00:27:17,040 –> 00:27:22,600
\ndoes is crucial to understanding
\nthe process of forgiveness. <\/p>\n
426
\n00:27:23,280 –> 00:27:31,320
\nSee it for what it really is.
\nHow’s everybody going? <\/p>\n
427
\n00:27:31,560 –> 00:27:33,000
\nFeeling Pretty flat.
\nPretty low. <\/p>\n
428
\n00:27:33,040 –> 00:27:35,400
\nThink, wow, Gee, this is not too
\ngood. <\/p>\n
429
\n00:27:37,680 –> 00:27:40,880
\nIt’s it’s it really does flatten
\nyou, doesn’t it, mentally. <\/p>\n
430
\n00:27:40,880 –> 00:27:44,920
\nAnd you sort of think, we’re
\nnot, we’re by nature, we’re not <\/p>\n
431
\n00:27:44,920 –> 00:27:48,240
\nthe most, not the most
\nattractive creatures, really. <\/p>\n
432
\n00:27:48,440 –> 00:27:53,880
\nHuman beings will do what they
\ncan to get out of their own <\/p>\n
433
\n00:27:53,880 –> 00:27:57,720
\nproblems.
\nBut then God says now, now that <\/p>\n
434
\n00:27:57,720 –> 00:28:00,160
\nwe’re down there, now that we’re
\ndown in that horrible valley, <\/p>\n
435
\n00:28:01,760 –> 00:28:03,120
\nGod says I want you to do
\nsomething. <\/p>\n
436
\n00:28:06,330 –> 00:28:10,290
\nWhoops, we’re going forward.
\nYeah, here we are. <\/p>\n
437
\n00:28:10,730 –> 00:28:13,730
\nLook at that.
\nThis is what God wants us to do,<\/p>\n
438
\n00:28:16,090 –> 00:28:20,090
\nhe says.
\nIt is part and parcel of us <\/p>\n
439
\n00:28:20,090 –> 00:28:23,050
\ncoming to groups and being
\nhonest with ourselves, he says. <\/p>\n
440
\n00:28:23,050 –> 00:28:29,730
\nNow, now that you’re there, wash
\nyou, make you clean. <\/p>\n
441
\n00:28:31,600 –> 00:28:35,040
\nPut away the evil of your doings
\nfrom before mine eyes. <\/p>\n
442
\n00:28:36,680 –> 00:28:40,720
\nStop doing the evil.
\nAnd then he says this. <\/p>\n
443
\n00:28:40,720 –> 00:28:43,240
\nAnd I think these words are so,
\nso beautiful. <\/p>\n
444
\n00:28:43,240 –> 00:28:45,680
\nHe says.
\nNow, now come, now, he said. <\/p>\n
445
\n00:28:45,680 –> 00:28:46,480
\nLet.
\nLet’s have a chat. <\/p>\n
446
\n00:28:47,640 –> 00:28:51,200
\nCome on, let’s talk.
\nLet’s reason together. <\/p>\n
447
\n00:28:52,000 –> 00:28:53,640
\nSay it.
\nThe away though your sins be a <\/p>\n
448
\n00:28:53,640 –> 00:28:57,960
\nscarlet.
\nThey should be as white as snow.<\/p>\n
449
\n00:29:00,200 –> 00:29:04,920
\nAnd though they’d be red like
\nCrimson, they shall be as wool. <\/p>\n
450
\n00:29:06,040 –> 00:29:09,840
\nI want to wash you.
\nCan you can you give me a chance<\/p>\n
451
\n00:29:10,000 –> 00:29:14,040
\nto wash you clean effectively?
\nThat’s what that quote says me, <\/p>\n
452
\n00:29:14,400 –> 00:29:18,040
\nsays to me.
\nWhat is wool of all things? <\/p>\n
453
\n00:29:18,720 –> 00:29:21,280
\nWhere does wool come from?
\nA lamb. <\/p>\n
454
\n00:29:22,800 –> 00:29:29,120
\nHe wants to cover us with skin
\nof a lamb slain. <\/p>\n
455
\n00:29:29,810 –> 00:29:31,090
\nFrom the foundation of the
\nworld. <\/p>\n
456
\n00:29:33,010 –> 00:29:35,850
\nI would like to cleanse you from
\nyour you are actually not <\/p>\n
457
\n00:29:35,850 –> 00:29:40,810
\ncapable of self cleansing.
\nBut I can and I want to, and I <\/p>\n
458
\n00:29:40,810 –> 00:29:46,130
\nwill if you let me.
\nSo the need to see our sin as <\/p>\n
459
\n00:29:46,130 –> 00:29:47,970
\nGod sees them.
\nSo this is. <\/p>\n
460
\n00:29:48,010 –> 00:29:49,570
\nWe’ve just opened a bit of a
\nkey. <\/p>\n
461
\n00:29:49,570 –> 00:29:56,090
\nHere then, and the key is to see
\nour sin from God’s perspective. <\/p>\n
462
\n00:29:56,650 –> 00:29:59,950
\nAh, now that’s interesting.
\nNot from our own perspective. <\/p>\n
463
\n00:30:00,150 –> 00:30:04,830
\nHow does God see this?
\nHe’s given that He’s the one <\/p>\n
464
\n00:30:04,830 –> 00:30:08,710
\nthat’s doing the forgiving.
\nWhat’s he seeing with his own <\/p>\n
465
\n00:30:08,710 –> 00:30:11,270
\neyes?
\nSee the sin from God’s <\/p>\n
466
\n00:30:11,270 –> 00:30:14,990
\nperspective?
\nSee the sin as also a part of <\/p>\n
467
\n00:30:14,990 –> 00:30:20,750
\nthis restorative process.
\nIt’s a part of the process that <\/p>\n
468
\n00:30:20,750 –> 00:30:24,510
\nGod requires us to undergo in
\norder to have our sins forgiven.<\/p>\n
469
\n00:30:25,170 –> 00:30:28,450
\nWe have to go through this
\nhorrible dark valley to get <\/p>\n
470
\n00:30:28,450 –> 00:30:31,890
\nthere.
\nThis progression is the same <\/p>\n
471
\n00:30:31,890 –> 00:30:34,690
\nwherever you go in the Bible.
\nIt’s always the same. <\/p>\n
472
\n00:30:35,130 –> 00:30:39,810
\nIt’s never circumvented God’s
\nprocess to forgiveness the way <\/p>\n
473
\n00:30:39,810 –> 00:30:42,610
\nthrough.
\nThere are no shortcuts when it <\/p>\n
474
\n00:30:42,610 –> 00:30:45,130
\ncomes to God’s method of
\nforgiveness, the. <\/p>\n
475
\n00:30:45,130 –> 00:30:51,210
\nRecipe is exactly the same.
\nIt’s the recipe for forgiveness <\/p>\n
476
\n00:30:51,250 –> 00:30:58,260
\nand this method, this process.
\nIs 100% free. 100% free. <\/p>\n
477
\n00:30:58,620 –> 00:31:02,140
\nNo works.
\nGod doesn’t want anything from <\/p>\n
478
\n00:31:02,140 –> 00:31:03,980
\nus whatsoever.
\nHe wants you to. <\/p>\n
479
\n00:31:04,220 –> 00:31:08,780
\nSit down and just listen to him.
\nDon’t want you to do anything. <\/p>\n
480
\n00:31:08,780 –> 00:31:11,540
\nStay still.
\nJust stand still and see the <\/p>\n
481
\n00:31:11,540 –> 00:31:14,300
\nsalvation of Yahweh.
\nThat’s what he wants. <\/p>\n
482
\n00:31:16,340 –> 00:31:20,260
\nKnow how Mary’s.
\nAs the the the Church would have<\/p>\n
483
\n00:31:20,260 –> 00:31:22,050
\nus believe.
\nNo. <\/p>\n
484
\n00:31:22,210 –> 00:31:26,530
\nNo community service, no
\npenance, no money. <\/p>\n
485
\n00:31:26,810 –> 00:31:30,490
\nDon’t want any of that.
\nIt needs to be. <\/p>\n
486
\n00:31:30,490 –> 00:31:38,330
\nYou need to know, says God, that
\nthis is free, 100% free, for <\/p>\n
487
\n00:31:38,330 –> 00:31:42,530
\nsome very, very good reasons.
\nThe first reason is we could <\/p>\n
488
\n00:31:42,530 –> 00:31:44,490
\nnever ever buy.
\nForgiveness. <\/p>\n
489
\n00:31:44,690 –> 00:31:47,970
\nYou could never afford it.
\nIn your wildest dreams, you <\/p>\n
490
\n00:31:47,970 –> 00:31:50,670
\ncan’t do it.
\nDo you know if there was <\/p>\n
491
\n00:31:50,670 –> 00:31:53,590
\nsomething that we could do to
\nearn forgiveness? <\/p>\n
492
\n00:31:54,030 –> 00:31:57,990
\nWell, then by definition it’s
\nnot forgiveness because you’ve <\/p>\n
493
\n00:31:57,990 –> 00:32:02,670
\nearned it.
\nGod wants to wipe the slate <\/p>\n
494
\n00:32:02,670 –> 00:32:05,790
\nclean without you doing
\nanything. <\/p>\n
495
\n00:32:05,790 –> 00:32:08,790
\nThat’s what he’s looking for.
\nHe wants you to understand this.<\/p>\n
496
\n00:32:09,750 –> 00:32:11,710
\nRemember what he said to to
\nAbraham once. <\/p>\n
497
\n00:32:12,150 –> 00:32:13,070
\nAnd this is the.
\nWhole. <\/p>\n
498
\n00:32:13,070 –> 00:32:15,430
\nPoint of this remember what he
\nsaid to Abraham when he was <\/p>\n
499
\n00:32:15,430 –> 00:32:17,430
\noffering up.
\nAbraham was about to OfferUp <\/p>\n
500
\n00:32:17,470 –> 00:32:19,030
\nIsaac.
\nHe said Isaac stop. <\/p>\n
501
\n00:32:19,620 –> 00:32:21,460
\nSorry, he said.
\nAbraham, stop. <\/p>\n
502
\n00:32:22,900 –> 00:32:30,740
\nI need you to know something.
\nI will provide you. <\/p>\n
503
\n00:32:30,740 –> 00:32:34,260
\nJust watch.
\nI don’t want you to do anything.<\/p>\n
504
\n00:32:36,820 –> 00:32:41,900
\nI just want you to have a
\nprocess going on in your mind <\/p>\n
505
\n00:32:41,900 –> 00:32:45,020
\ncalled faith.
\nThat’s what I need you to have. <\/p>\n
506
\n00:32:45,580 –> 00:32:53,300
\nAnd let me do this for you.
\nAnd another reason it’s free is <\/p>\n
507
\n00:32:53,300 –> 00:32:56,820
\nbecause God is love, brothers
\nand sisters. <\/p>\n
508
\n00:32:57,700 –> 00:33:00,820
\nThat’s why it’s free.
\nAnd he wants to forgive. <\/p>\n
509
\n00:33:01,780 –> 00:33:07,140
\nHe’s, if you like to use a
\ncolloquialism, our he’s busting <\/p>\n
510
\n00:33:07,140 –> 00:33:10,220
\nto forgive.
\nHe used to forgive. <\/p>\n
511
\n00:33:10,340 –> 00:33:14,020
\nThat’s what he does.
\nWe’re going to see that and <\/p>\n
512
\n00:33:14,020 –> 00:33:15,580
\ndestroy the prodigal son later
\non. <\/p>\n
513
\n00:33:16,530 –> 00:33:22,730
\nIn our in our studies, he yearns
\nto forgive us the the love that <\/p>\n
514
\n00:33:22,730 –> 00:33:29,010
\nGod feels for us is extremely
\nintense, and he’s very grieved <\/p>\n
515
\n00:33:29,810 –> 00:33:31,570
\nwhen we can’t bring ourselves to
\nthat. <\/p>\n
516
\n00:33:31,570 –> 00:33:35,810
\nPoint turn with me to Isaiah 55
\nin verse one. <\/p>\n
517
\n00:33:37,010 –> 00:33:43,370
\nSo this is our our reading
\nIsaiah 55. <\/p>\n
518
\n00:33:46,480 –> 00:33:49,440
\nFirst word ho.
\nThat’s an old. <\/p>\n
519
\n00:33:49,440 –> 00:33:56,640
\nEnglish word for listen, he’s
\nbasically saying oy hello. <\/p>\n
520
\n00:33:57,520 –> 00:33:59,000
\nHe’s trying to get your
\nattention. <\/p>\n
521
\n00:33:59,440 –> 00:34:01,200
\nThat’s what he’s doing.
\nThat’s the idea of that word. <\/p>\n
522
\n00:34:01,760 –> 00:34:03,200
\nEverybody.
\nThis is a call. <\/p>\n
523
\n00:34:03,200 –> 00:34:08,120
\nHe’s calling out everyone that
\nthirsteth come here to the <\/p>\n
524
\n00:34:08,120 –> 00:34:12,560
\nwaters and he that hath no
\nmoney. <\/p>\n
525
\n00:34:13,560 –> 00:34:18,340
\nBig loudspeaker happening here.
\nCome, ye buy, eat. <\/p>\n
526
\n00:34:19,380 –> 00:34:23,020
\nThey come and buy wine and milk
\nwithout money, without price. <\/p>\n
527
\n00:34:25,380 –> 00:34:28,900
\nI don’t want anything from you
\nat this stage. <\/p>\n
528
\n00:34:28,900 –> 00:34:32,620
\nJust come and have this.
\nWhy do you spend money for that <\/p>\n
529
\n00:34:32,620 –> 00:34:36,179
\nwhich is not bread, and good
\nlabor for that which satisfies <\/p>\n
530
\n00:34:36,179 –> 00:34:40,260
\nnot harken diligently to me.
\nListen carefully to what I’m <\/p>\n
531
\n00:34:40,260 –> 00:34:43,620
\nsaying, and eat you that which
\nis good. <\/p>\n
532
\n00:34:44,120 –> 00:34:48,760
\nAnd let your soul delight itself
\nin fatness or goodness. <\/p>\n
533
\n00:34:51,520 –> 00:34:55,080
\nIncline your ear.
\nListen to me, please listen to <\/p>\n
534
\n00:34:55,080 –> 00:35:03,520
\nme and come to me here, and your
\nsoul shall live. <\/p>\n
535
\n00:35:04,240 –> 00:35:06,400
\nHe’s not talking about the three
\nschool years and 10. <\/p>\n
536
\n00:35:06,400 –> 00:35:09,160
\nNow he’s talking about
\ninternally. <\/p>\n
537
\n00:35:10,400 –> 00:35:12,640
\nListen to me and I’ll give you
\neternal life. <\/p>\n
538
\n00:35:13,980 –> 00:35:17,620
\nAnd I will make an everlasting
\ncovenant with you, even the sure<\/p>\n
539
\n00:35:18,340 –> 00:35:21,620
\nmercies of David.
\nThat’s forgiveness. <\/p>\n
540
\n00:35:21,980 –> 00:35:27,500
\nI’ll forgive you free.
\nWhat more do you want? <\/p>\n
541
\n00:35:29,020 –> 00:35:36,500
\nI’m not even asking a penny.
\nHis only request is that we <\/p>\n
542
\n00:35:36,500 –> 00:35:42,540
\nfollow the process of
\nforgiveness and the reason he <\/p>\n
543
\n00:35:42,540 –> 00:35:45,010
\nwants this.
\nBrother and sister is because he<\/p>\n
544
\n00:35:45,010 –> 00:35:50,530
\nmade us and he knows that in
\nthat process, it’s a healing <\/p>\n
545
\n00:35:50,530 –> 00:35:53,410
\nprocess.
\nIt’s part. <\/p>\n
546
\n00:35:53,410 –> 00:35:56,690
\nOf.
\nIf you like a deep psychological<\/p>\n
547
\n00:35:56,690 –> 00:36:03,890
\nprocess that God understands, we
\nneed to go through this formula,<\/p>\n
548
\n00:36:03,890 –> 00:36:07,010
\nthis.
\nMethod which God uses to show us<\/p>\n
549
\n00:36:07,050 –> 00:36:10,410
\nis is the it’s our true standing
\nbefore Him. <\/p>\n
550
\n00:36:11,360 –> 00:36:16,200
\nBefore forgiveness and after
\nforgiveness so that we can see <\/p>\n
551
\n00:36:16,200 –> 00:36:21,480
\nwe can appreciate the depths of
\nit, how we feel before and how <\/p>\n
552
\n00:36:21,480 –> 00:36:26,640
\nwe feel after.
\nAnd the contrast is huge. <\/p>\n
553
\n00:36:29,800 –> 00:36:34,040
\nBut the tool that God uses to
\nget us to understand the. <\/p>\n
554
\n00:36:34,040 –> 00:36:35,080
\nActual.
\nTool. <\/p>\n
555
\n00:36:35,320 –> 00:36:40,480
\nIn this process is the.
\nSuffering or the consequence of <\/p>\n
556
\n00:36:40,480 –> 00:36:42,760
\nsin?
\nThat’s what God uses to teach <\/p>\n
557
\n00:36:42,760 –> 00:36:45,520
\nus.
\nIf you like, the fruits of what <\/p>\n
558
\n00:36:45,520 –> 00:36:50,800
\nwe’ve done.
\nWe are not exempt from the from <\/p>\n
559
\n00:36:50,800 –> 00:36:57,480
\nthe result of sin.
\nIn the end. <\/p>\n
560
\n00:36:57,480 –> 00:37:03,720
\nThe result of sin is death, and
\nso the outcome of our sins are <\/p>\n
561
\n00:37:03,720 –> 00:37:08,840
\nthere to teach and remind us
\nthat God is wanting to lead us <\/p>\n
562
\n00:37:08,840 –> 00:37:13,260
\nfrom sin itself.
\nAnd through this process, God is<\/p>\n
563
\n00:37:13,260 –> 00:37:19,260
\nlooking for us to to turn away
\nfrom sin, albeit some of us turn<\/p>\n
564
\n00:37:19,980 –> 00:37:23,820
\nlike like that we might turn
\nquickly, some of us sort of a <\/p>\n
565
\n00:37:23,820 –> 00:37:26,540
\nbit more of a curve.
\nSome of us like that. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:37:27,260 –> 00:37:31,500
\nAnd finally. 80 years later.
\nBut God will. <\/p>\n
567
\n00:37:32,140 –> 00:37:34,940
\nGod will keep working with us
\nfor as long as there’s breath in<\/p>\n
568
\n00:37:34,940 –> 00:37:40,210
\nour bodies.
\nBut there’s more to this. <\/p>\n
569
\n00:37:44,410 –> 00:37:46,330
\nThere’s more to this than just
\nforgiveness. <\/p>\n
570
\n00:37:46,330 –> 00:37:47,770
\nMuch more.
\nBecause, see, God wants us to <\/p>\n
571
\n00:37:47,770 –> 00:37:51,930
\nunderstand in this, this, this
\nprocess at the the part of this <\/p>\n
572
\n00:37:51,930 –> 00:38:00,850
\nprocess is us beginning.
\nTo think like him in this <\/p>\n
573
\n00:38:00,850 –> 00:38:04,610
\nprocess now is is this not all
\nabout is God’s purpose with the <\/p>\n
574
\n00:38:04,650 –> 00:38:07,570
\nearth as truly as I live, all
\nthe earth will be filled with <\/p>\n
575
\n00:38:07,570 –> 00:38:11,600
\nthis glory.
\nIn that purpose, brothers and <\/p>\n
576
\n00:38:11,600 –> 00:38:14,440
\nsisters, God is trying to get us
\nto understand that. <\/p>\n
577
\n00:38:14,440 –> 00:38:18,000
\nI need you to go that through
\nthat process, because at the end<\/p>\n
578
\n00:38:18,000 –> 00:38:23,200
\nof it, you’re going to be a part
\nof that glorious purpose and <\/p>\n
579
\n00:38:23,200 –> 00:38:26,960
\nthat that process within.
\nThat process, that’s how we get <\/p>\n
580
\n00:38:26,960 –> 00:38:30,760
\nthere.
\nAnd God is not only forgiving <\/p>\n
581
\n00:38:30,880 –> 00:38:34,120
\nbecause at the end of the day
\nthat that state of forgiveness, <\/p>\n
582
\n00:38:34,840 –> 00:38:38,770
\nit’s only temporary, is it not?
\nSo you go to God in prayer. <\/p>\n
583
\n00:38:39,010 –> 00:38:40,930
\nThere might be something
\nparticularly that you want to <\/p>\n
584
\n00:38:40,930 –> 00:38:43,850
\nmention to God that you’ve been
\nworking on for a long time, <\/p>\n
585
\n00:38:43,850 –> 00:38:46,530
\nwhatever it is or what’s been
\nbugging you for a long time, and<\/p>\n
586
\n00:38:46,530 –> 00:38:50,250
\nyou’d lay your heart out to God.
\nAt the end of the day. <\/p>\n
587
\n00:38:50,570 –> 00:38:53,850
\nThat state of cleanliness before
\nGod is only temporary. <\/p>\n
588
\n00:38:59,170 –> 00:39:00,290
\nIt’s only there for a little
\nwhile. <\/p>\n
589
\n00:39:01,610 –> 00:39:05,050
\nBecause a few days later, or a
\nfew weeks or hours, whatever it <\/p>\n
590
\n00:39:05,050 –> 00:39:06,530
\nis, you’ve got to go to God
\nagain. <\/p>\n
591
\n00:39:07,500 –> 00:39:11,380
\nI’ll ask if we give this again,
\nand God will forgive you again <\/p>\n
592
\n00:39:12,180 –> 00:39:15,700
\nand again and over and over.
\nBecause that’s what he does, he <\/p>\n
593
\n00:39:15,700 –> 00:39:17,860
\nsays.
\nI don’t think like you, I don’t <\/p>\n
594
\n00:39:17,860 –> 00:39:19,980
\nthink.
\nLike a man, I don’t have <\/p>\n
595
\n00:39:19,980 –> 00:39:22,540
\nlimitations to what I can do or
\nwhat I can’t do. <\/p>\n
596
\n00:39:26,020 –> 00:39:29,580
\nSo what God is actually doing
\nwithin this process is creating <\/p>\n
597
\n00:39:29,580 –> 00:39:33,500
\na new creature within you.
\nSo you sort of think, how is God<\/p>\n
598
\n00:39:33,500 –> 00:39:34,300
\ncreating?
\nA new? <\/p>\n
599
\n00:39:34,940 –> 00:39:36,180
\nCreature with it what he’s
\ndoing. <\/p>\n
600
\n00:39:37,380 –> 00:39:42,220
\nIs creating a new concept in
\nyour mind and effectively what <\/p>\n
601
\n00:39:42,220 –> 00:39:44,580
\nyou said you’ve been born with
\nthe Bias brothers and sisters, a<\/p>\n
602
\n00:39:44,580 –> 00:39:46,100
\nsin.
\nBut God has actually given you <\/p>\n
603
\n00:39:46,100 –> 00:39:49,180
\nthis.
\nAnd he said, now get this into <\/p>\n
604
\n00:39:49,180 –> 00:39:52,740
\nyou because that’s going to
\nproduce a whole new way of <\/p>\n
605
\n00:39:52,740 –> 00:39:55,940
\nthinking, which you otherwise
\nwouldn’t know about. <\/p>\n
606
\n00:39:58,540 –> 00:40:02,700
\nEat this book and understand the
\nprocess that I need you to go <\/p>\n
607
\n00:40:02,700 –> 00:40:04,860
\nthrough.
\nIt’s a healing process. <\/p>\n
608
\n00:40:06,940 –> 00:40:11,740
\nAnd God is both cleansing us
\nfrom sin and creating himself <\/p>\n
609
\n00:40:11,740 –> 00:40:15,100
\nwithin us.
\nSo God is not so much interested<\/p>\n
610
\n00:40:15,540 –> 00:40:18,300
\nin a temporary state, but a.
\nPermanent change. <\/p>\n
611
\n00:40:21,500 –> 00:40:23,460
\nIs that not true?
\nGod wants to change us <\/p>\n
612
\n00:40:23,540 –> 00:40:28,500
\npermanently in the end.
\nAnd of course, this side of the <\/p>\n
613
\n00:40:28,500 –> 00:40:31,300
\njudgment seat, when no one’s
\never going to get to the state <\/p>\n
614
\n00:40:31,300 –> 00:40:34,140
\nwhere they can say, well, I’ve
\nmade such huge changes, I’m <\/p>\n
615
\n00:40:34,140 –> 00:40:37,010
\nalmost immortal anyway.
\nNever. <\/p>\n
616
\n00:40:37,010 –> 00:40:41,050
\nI’m going to chance.
\nGod is looking for effort. <\/p>\n
617
\n00:40:41,410 –> 00:40:44,330
\nThat’s what he wants.
\nHe wants a genuine effort. <\/p>\n
618
\n00:40:46,450 –> 00:40:49,050
\nSo the real reason then,
\nbrothers and sisters, for <\/p>\n
619
\n00:40:49,050 –> 00:40:53,690
\nconfession, repentance and
\nconversion is that we turn from <\/p>\n
620
\n00:40:53,690 –> 00:40:55,050
\nsin.
\nThat’s actually the real reason <\/p>\n
621
\n00:40:55,050 –> 00:40:58,170
\nand in that process.
\nGod will forgive over and over <\/p>\n
622
\n00:40:58,330 –> 00:41:02,570
\nand over and over again so that
\nwe can start to learn. <\/p>\n
623
\n00:41:03,250 –> 00:41:05,710
\nNo, because.
\nIf if it was just the case that <\/p>\n
624
\n00:41:05,710 –> 00:41:07,990
\nGod said, oh, that’s OK don’t
\nworry, I’ll forgive you. <\/p>\n
625
\n00:41:08,910 –> 00:41:10,950
\nIt’s up you’ve you’ve you’ve
\nasked forgiven us. <\/p>\n
626
\n00:41:11,030 –> 00:41:12,030
\nIt’s all good.
\nForgiven. <\/p>\n
627
\n00:41:13,670 –> 00:41:15,310
\nWell then we’re not going to
\nturn from sin. <\/p>\n
628
\n00:41:15,710 –> 00:41:17,870
\nWe might be forgiven, but we
\nwon’t turn from it. <\/p>\n
629
\n00:41:18,150 –> 00:41:21,710
\nBut what the process does, it
\nturns us away from it. <\/p>\n
630
\n00:41:23,150 –> 00:41:27,430
\nGod is very, very ingenious, if
\nyou like, in his method of. <\/p>\n
631
\n00:41:28,030 –> 00:41:31,630
\nWhat he’s done with us, he wants
\nus at some point to learn the <\/p>\n
632
\n00:41:31,630 –> 00:41:34,640
\nfolly.
\nOf giving in to our weaknesses, <\/p>\n
633
\n00:41:37,240 –> 00:41:40,840
\nthe foolishness of it, and how
\nwe feel every time when we come <\/p>\n
634
\n00:41:40,840 –> 00:41:45,720
\nto him and in tears.
\nAnd here I am again, God will <\/p>\n
635
\n00:41:45,720 –> 00:41:48,200
\nsay to us, well, we’ve been here
\nbefore. <\/p>\n
636
\n00:41:48,920 –> 00:41:54,640
\nHow do you feel this time?
\nAnd He will forgive again, you <\/p>\n
637
\n00:41:54,640 –> 00:41:57,840
\nknow, whether it’s a one year
\nprocess or an 80 year process. <\/p>\n
638
\n00:41:59,920 –> 00:42:02,560
\nMeanwhile, he’ll continue to
\nforgive the repentant heart. <\/p>\n
639
\n00:42:03,260 –> 00:42:06,780
\nThat is genuinely trying to work
\nwith God and you may never ever <\/p>\n
640
\n00:42:07,260 –> 00:42:10,380
\nbe truly successful.
\nAs I said before, God is looking<\/p>\n
641
\n00:42:10,700 –> 00:42:13,540
\nfor an effort.
\nSo we’ve got this three-part <\/p>\n
642
\n00:42:13,540 –> 00:42:16,860
\nprocess then that we must all
\nundergo before forgiveness can <\/p>\n
643
\n00:42:17,260 –> 00:42:19,340
\ntake place.
\nSo the first step is confession.<\/p>\n
644
\n00:42:19,580 –> 00:42:21,660
\nSo here’s a couple of Here’s a
\ncouple of quotes. <\/p>\n
645
\n00:42:23,340 –> 00:42:27,140
\nHere we are, Couple of quotes.
\nConfession. <\/p>\n
646
\n00:42:27,980 –> 00:42:30,020
\nSee the horror of sin for what
\nit what it is. <\/p>\n
647
\n00:42:30,410 –> 00:42:31,530
\nIt’s a funny word to use, isn’t
\nit? <\/p>\n
648
\n00:42:32,170 –> 00:42:37,370
\nDo I see sin as horrible?
\nAm I horrified with my sin? <\/p>\n
649
\n00:42:39,130 –> 00:42:44,330
\nThe honest answer, it’s because
\nwe’re so the honest answer is <\/p>\n
650
\n00:42:44,330 –> 00:42:49,010
\nprobably not because we’re so
\naccustomed to doing, I guess, to<\/p>\n
651
\n00:42:49,010 –> 00:42:50,690
\neither doing or not doing what
\nwe should. <\/p>\n
652
\n00:42:53,690 –> 00:42:55,930
\nSo John says if we confess our
\nsins. <\/p>\n
653
\n00:42:55,970 –> 00:42:58,170
\nIs that up there?
\nYes, if we confess our sins. <\/p>\n
654
\n00:42:58,880 –> 00:43:01,120
\nHe is faithful and just to
\nforgive us our sins. <\/p>\n
655
\n00:43:01,120 –> 00:43:03,640
\nRemember one of the questions,
\nhow do I know God is forgiven? <\/p>\n
656
\n00:43:04,120 –> 00:43:08,840
\nJohn says what can if you
\nconfess he is faithful and he is<\/p>\n
657
\n00:43:08,840 –> 00:43:12,480
\njust to forgive our sins and to
\ncleanse us from all <\/p>\n
658
\n00:43:12,480 –> 00:43:18,840
\nunrighteousness.
\nProverbs 28 and verse 13 He that<\/p>\n
659
\n00:43:18,840 –> 00:43:23,720
\ncovereth his sin shall not
\nprosper, but whoso confesseth <\/p>\n
660
\n00:43:23,720 –> 00:43:26,360
\nand forsaketh them shall have
\nmercy. <\/p>\n
661
\n00:43:29,560 –> 00:43:33,440
\nAnd Psalm 32 verse five says, I
\nacknowledge my sin unto thee and<\/p>\n
662
\n00:43:33,440 –> 00:43:37,520
\nmy iniquity, have I not hid?
\nI said, I will confess my <\/p>\n
663
\n00:43:37,520 –> 00:43:41,000
\ntransgression unto Yahweh.
\nAnd they forgave us the iniquity<\/p>\n
664
\n00:43:41,000 –> 00:43:44,760
\nof my sin.
\nSo confession. <\/p>\n
665
\n00:43:44,760 –> 00:43:49,000
\nIs stage 1 the second step
\nrepentance you? <\/p>\n
666
\n00:43:49,360 –> 00:43:53,080
\nMight remember that Paul the
\nApostle when speaking to king of<\/p>\n
667
\n00:43:53,080 –> 00:43:57,500
\ngripper he said this but.
\nAnd he’s explaining to King <\/p>\n
668
\n00:43:57,500 –> 00:44:00,380
\nGribba what Paul had gone
\nthrough, And he said, but but <\/p>\n
669
\n00:44:00,380 –> 00:44:02,100
\nshowed first unto them of
\nDamascus. <\/p>\n
670
\n00:44:02,100 –> 00:44:05,500
\nThis is when Paul was first
\nconverted at Jerusalem and <\/p>\n
671
\n00:44:05,500 –> 00:44:08,380
\nthroughout all the coast of GD,
\nand then to the Gentiles, that <\/p>\n
672
\n00:44:08,380 –> 00:44:10,580
\nthey should repent and turn to
\nGod. <\/p>\n
673
\n00:44:10,620 –> 00:44:15,780
\nAnd do works meet for
\nrepentance, The ESV says, <\/p>\n
674
\n00:44:16,380 –> 00:44:20,420
\nperforming deeds in keeping with
\ntheir repentance. <\/p>\n
675
\n00:44:23,550 –> 00:44:25,790
\nSo repentance is really a change
\nof heart. <\/p>\n
676
\n00:44:25,790 –> 00:44:29,190
\nThat’s what it is.
\nIt’s a a, a new it’s a new <\/p>\n
677
\n00:44:29,190 –> 00:44:32,550
\nviewpoint, a new perspective.
\nGod’s perspective. <\/p>\n
678
\n00:44:33,750 –> 00:44:35,550
\nNot just a temporary feel.
\nBad moment. <\/p>\n
679
\n00:44:35,630 –> 00:44:38,550
\nWe’re all familiar with that,
\nthat, that bad moment. <\/p>\n
680
\n00:44:38,550 –> 00:44:39,910
\nThat says what?
\nA. <\/p>\n
681
\n00:44:40,110 –> 00:44:41,350
\nWhat an idiot.
\nWhat have I done that for? <\/p>\n
682
\n00:44:41,630 –> 00:44:43,390
\nAnd you forget about it and do
\nit again next day? <\/p>\n
683
\n00:44:43,390 –> 00:44:47,670
\nWhatever it’s.
\nThis is a complete change and <\/p>\n
684
\n00:44:47,670 –> 00:44:51,590
\nthe result is the third step,
\nwhich is. <\/p>\n
685
\n00:44:55,050 –> 00:44:58,530
\nConversion of course to to, to,
\nto turn and walk away in the <\/p>\n
686
\n00:44:58,530 –> 00:45:02,170
\nopposite direction.
\nSee, this is really has the has <\/p>\n
687
\n00:45:02,170 –> 00:45:05,250
\nthe idea of replacement.
\nWe’ve got to replace our <\/p>\n
688
\n00:45:05,290 –> 00:45:07,850
\nbehaviour, our thoughts with
\nsomething else. <\/p>\n
689
\n00:45:08,210 –> 00:45:12,090
\nSo if the if, if it’s, if it’s a
\nbehavioral thing, we replace it.<\/p>\n
690
\n00:45:14,250 –> 00:45:18,010
\nWe’re recently at a school of
\nprophets in in in Brisbane. <\/p>\n
691
\n00:45:18,740 –> 00:45:21,580
\nAnd the young men, as the young
\nmen do, they open up to each <\/p>\n
692
\n00:45:21,580 –> 00:45:24,220
\nother and they really talk about
\nsome pretty heavy duty subjects.<\/p>\n
693
\n00:45:24,220 –> 00:45:28,220
\nAnd one of them was pornography.
\nAnd they had, they had a great <\/p>\n
694
\n00:45:28,220 –> 00:45:31,540
\ndiscussion on that in that they
\nsaid that the the way forward, <\/p>\n
695
\n00:45:32,060 –> 00:45:34,300
\nsome of them felt that the way
\nforward for them, for their <\/p>\n
696
\n00:45:34,300 –> 00:45:39,860
\nsuccess with that problem, they
\nsaid was to replace that <\/p>\n
697
\n00:45:39,860 –> 00:45:41,940
\nbehavior with something else.
\nThey didn’t just say, well, I’m <\/p>\n
698
\n00:45:41,940 –> 00:45:43,990
\nnot going to look at that.
\nWebsite anymore? <\/p>\n
699
\n00:45:43,990 –> 00:45:46,430
\nI’m not going to do that anymore
\nand just sit there twiddling <\/p>\n
700
\n00:45:46,430 –> 00:45:47,790
\ntheir thumbs.
\nThen I’m just not going to do <\/p>\n
701
\n00:45:47,790 –> 00:45:50,350
\nthat anymore.
\nThey replaced the behavior with <\/p>\n
702
\n00:45:50,350 –> 00:45:56,310
\nsomething else so that therefore
\ntheir mind was occupied and they<\/p>\n
703
\n00:45:56,310 –> 00:45:59,710
\nwere able to turn to turn away.
\nThat doesn’t mean that the <\/p>\n
704
\n00:45:59,710 –> 00:46:02,270
\nweakness wasn’t there anymore.
\nOf course it was, but they had <\/p>\n
705
\n00:46:02,270 –> 00:46:06,830
\nto replace the behavior with
\nsomething else, a bit like a or <\/p>\n
706
\n00:46:06,830 –> 00:46:10,400
\nthat the idea of displacement.
\nSo when you when you put a boat <\/p>\n
707
\n00:46:10,400 –> 00:46:14,000
\nin the water, what happens?
\nThere’s a a a measure of it <\/p>\n
708
\n00:46:14,000 –> 00:46:16,760
\ndisplaces the water.
\nThat’s the that’s the the <\/p>\n
709
\n00:46:16,760 –> 00:46:20,080
\nconcept here to.
\nPush away and to put. <\/p>\n
710
\n00:46:20,080 –> 00:46:25,640
\nSomething else in its place or
\nit has the idea of a a whole 180<\/p>\n
711
\n00:46:25,640 –> 00:46:28,360
\ndegree turn.
\nSo you were walking that way <\/p>\n
712
\n00:46:28,600 –> 00:46:29,880
\nyou’ve decided to.
\nWalk this way. <\/p>\n
713
\n00:46:29,880 –> 00:46:35,320
\nInstead, it’s a completely
\ndifferent set of behaviours <\/p>\n
714
\n00:46:35,720 –> 00:46:37,880
\nwhich which we were engaged in
\nbefore. <\/p>\n
715
\n00:46:41,100 –> 00:46:45,220
\nSo the idea of God’s process
\nthen is to forgive sins. <\/p>\n
716
\n00:46:49,860 –> 00:46:53,420
\nBut that’s not the whole story.
\nMore importantly, brothers and <\/p>\n
717
\n00:46:53,420 –> 00:46:56,700
\nsisters, is to get us to change
\nour direction. <\/p>\n
718
\n00:46:56,700 –> 00:46:59,380
\nNow what was the next?
\nWhat was that there? <\/p>\n
719
\n00:46:59,620 –> 00:47:00,700
\nNo, that’s it.
\nThere you go. <\/p>\n
720
\n00:47:01,140 –> 00:47:03,940
\nSo actually that can stay there.
\nLet’s go. <\/p>\n
721
\n00:47:03,940 –> 00:47:05,700
\nI don’t know how to turn that
\noff. <\/p>\n
722
\n00:47:05,700 –> 00:47:07,380
\nSo.
\nThat’s all right. <\/p>\n
723
\n00:47:08,070 –> 00:47:10,230
\nWe’re actually not too far from
\nthe end. <\/p>\n
724
\n00:47:11,430 –> 00:47:15,470
\nSo did you see Axe there, by the
\nway? <\/p>\n
725
\n00:47:15,470 –> 00:47:19,190
\nLet me just read it for you,
\nthis, this in relation to being <\/p>\n
726
\n00:47:19,190 –> 00:47:22,790
\nconverted, Axe says unto you.
\nFirst, God having raised up his <\/p>\n
727
\n00:47:22,790 –> 00:47:26,590
\nson Jesus.
\nSent him to bless you in turning<\/p>\n
728
\n00:47:26,590 –> 00:47:30,710
\naway everyone of you from his
\niniquities. <\/p>\n
729
\n00:47:30,710 –> 00:47:33,870
\nThat was the idea of conversion,
\nthis turning idea. <\/p>\n
730
\n00:47:34,340 –> 00:47:35,740
\nAnd see.
\nAnd so can you see in the <\/p>\n
731
\n00:47:35,740 –> 00:47:38,220
\nprocess, it’s not just a a thing
\nthat God has set up. <\/p>\n
732
\n00:47:38,660 –> 00:47:42,660
\nHe actually is trying to get us
\nto cease in for what it is and <\/p>\n
733
\n00:47:42,660 –> 00:47:46,780
\nnot to repeat that have this
\nrepetitious way in which we sin.<\/p>\n
734
\n00:47:47,300 –> 00:47:51,820
\nSo God’s mercy and forgiveness
\ncannot flow then until we see <\/p>\n
735
\n00:47:52,020 –> 00:47:53,900
\nthat exact process is acted
\nupon. <\/p>\n
736
\n00:47:55,260 –> 00:47:56,940
\nNow here’s a couple.
\nHere’s an example of how the <\/p>\n
737
\n00:47:56,940 –> 00:47:59,500
\nprocess works.
\nIsaiah 55 again. <\/p>\n
738
\n00:47:59,780 –> 00:48:02,420
\nSo have a look at verse 6.
\nSo here’s, here’s the process. <\/p>\n
739
\n00:48:03,020 –> 00:48:08,260
\nIn in verse six and seven zai.
\n55 Seek ye Yahweh while he may <\/p>\n
740
\n00:48:08,260 –> 00:48:10,860
\nbe found, call ye upon him while
\nhe is near. <\/p>\n
741
\n00:48:11,940 –> 00:48:16,540
\nSo seek God’s attention, confess
\nto God, call to him, and make <\/p>\n
742
\n00:48:16,540 –> 00:48:18,220
\nthat confession.
\nThat’s step one. <\/p>\n
743
\n00:48:19,580 –> 00:48:22,620
\nThen Step 2.
\nLet the wicked forsake his way, <\/p>\n
744
\n00:48:23,020 –> 00:48:27,380
\nand the unrighteous man his
\nthoughts right. <\/p>\n
745
\n00:48:27,460 –> 00:48:31,140
\nSo forsake that previous way of
\nlife. <\/p>\n
746
\n00:48:32,490 –> 00:48:37,250
\nOr that previous activity, or
\nthe previous behavior, and let <\/p>\n
747
\n00:48:37,250 –> 00:48:41,930
\nhim return unto Yahweh.
\nReturn to Yahweh and there’s <\/p>\n
748
\n00:48:41,930 –> 00:48:43,930
\nconversion, and look at the
\nresult. <\/p>\n
749
\n00:48:44,810 –> 00:48:47,930
\nHe will have mercy upon him and
\nto our God. <\/p>\n
750
\n00:48:48,090 –> 00:48:50,890
\nFor he will.
\nAbundantly pardon. <\/p>\n
751
\n00:48:52,610 –> 00:48:56,050
\nAbundantly pardon.
\nFor my thoughts are not your <\/p>\n
752
\n00:48:56,050 –> 00:48:58,490
\nthoughts, neither are your ways.
\nMy ways. <\/p>\n
753
\n00:48:58,490 –> 00:49:01,410
\nS Yahweh, For as the heaven is
\nhigher than the earth. <\/p>\n
754
\n00:49:01,820 –> 00:49:04,060
\nSo are my ways higher than your
\nways? <\/p>\n
755
\n00:49:04,260 –> 00:49:05,940
\nAnd my thoughts than your
\nthoughts? <\/p>\n
756
\n00:49:06,340 –> 00:49:11,380
\nI don’t think like you so so
\ndon’t limit God. <\/p>\n
757
\n00:49:12,260 –> 00:49:15,660
\nDon’t ask questions like.
\nSurely God can’t be forgiven me <\/p>\n
758
\n00:49:15,660 –> 00:49:19,340
\nafter all these years.
\nYes, I am working on it with <\/p>\n
759
\n00:49:19,340 –> 00:49:21,140
\nhim, but is he still willing?
\nYes, he is. <\/p>\n
760
\n00:49:21,940 –> 00:49:26,860
\nHe’s still willing to forgive as
\nlong as you are willing to keep <\/p>\n
761
\n00:49:26,860 –> 00:49:30,860
\nworking with him through that
\nprocess, if we are honest with <\/p>\n
762
\n00:49:30,860 –> 00:49:33,860
\nGod.
\nAnd ourselves and we undertake <\/p>\n
763
\n00:49:33,860 –> 00:49:36,940
\nthe righteous process that God
\nrequires. <\/p>\n
764
\n00:49:37,540 –> 00:49:40,420
\nI would like to show you now the
\nstate in which we are in from <\/p>\n
765
\n00:49:40,420 –> 00:49:44,380
\nGod’s point of view.
\nAnd this is remarkable and it’s <\/p>\n
766
\n00:49:44,380 –> 00:49:48,380
\nlovely the way John writes this.
\nNow you come to John first, <\/p>\n
767
\n00:49:48,380 –> 00:49:49,540
\nJohn.
\nThree actually. <\/p>\n
768
\n00:49:52,900 –> 00:49:54,500
\nThis is where God is actually
\ngoing. <\/p>\n
769
\n00:49:54,500 –> 00:49:57,100
\nWe’re going to spend a bit of
\ntime in John this weekend. <\/p>\n
770
\n00:49:57,620 –> 00:50:01,020
\nJohn is just so remarkable the
\nway he. <\/p>\n
771
\n00:50:01,470 –> 00:50:04,870
\nHe writes, So this is first John
\nthree and verse 4. <\/p>\n
772
\n00:50:04,870 –> 00:50:06,910
\nWhere does God?
\nWhere does God? <\/p>\n
773
\n00:50:06,910 –> 00:50:09,310
\nSort of.
\nWhere’s the end game if you like<\/p>\n
774
\n00:50:09,710 –> 00:50:11,550
\nhere?
\nBecause it’s not just <\/p>\n
775
\n00:50:11,550 –> 00:50:15,750
\nforgiveness.
\nSo first John three and verse <\/p>\n
776
\n00:50:15,750 –> 00:50:19,430
\nfour says whoever commits sin
\ntransgresses also the law, for <\/p>\n
777
\n00:50:19,430 –> 00:50:21,350
\nsin is the transgression of the
\nlaw. <\/p>\n
778
\n00:50:22,870 –> 00:50:27,630
\nSo John states clearly that that
\nall have sinned, we all have <\/p>\n
779
\n00:50:27,630 –> 00:50:30,670
\nlaws, God’s law, and we’ve all
\nsinned against that law. <\/p>\n
780
\n00:50:31,170 –> 00:50:35,650
\nVerse 5 And you know that he
\nJesus Christ was manifest to <\/p>\n
781
\n00:50:35,650 –> 00:50:41,930
\ntake away our sins, and in him
\nis no sin. <\/p>\n
782
\n00:50:42,530 –> 00:50:46,130
\nAnd we all agree that in Jesus
\nChrist there was number sin, He <\/p>\n
783
\n00:50:46,130 –> 00:50:50,930
\nwas an innocent man.
\nWho will say yes, we all agree <\/p>\n
784
\n00:50:50,930 –> 00:50:54,890
\nwith that.
\nSo now what John does, he paints<\/p>\n
785
\n00:50:54,890 –> 00:50:59,930
\nthis metaphorical picture, this
\nsymbolic picture, and he says. <\/p>\n
786
\n00:51:00,320 –> 00:51:04,280
\nWhoever abides now, we’ve just
\nagreed that there’s no sin in <\/p>\n
787
\n00:51:04,280 –> 00:51:08,880
\nChrist.
\nImagine Christ here and John <\/p>\n
788
\n00:51:08,880 –> 00:51:14,000
\nsays now whoever abides.
\nIn him sin. <\/p>\n
789
\n00:51:14,000 –> 00:51:24,960
\nNot what?
\nWhoever abides in Christ has no <\/p>\n
790
\n00:51:25,520 –> 00:51:29,390
\nsin.
\nRemember the key. <\/p>\n
791
\n00:51:29,390 –> 00:51:32,430
\nThe key to this is look at it
\nfrom God’s perspective. <\/p>\n
792
\n00:51:35,350 –> 00:51:40,230
\nWhoever sins has not seen him
\nnor than known him. <\/p>\n
793
\n00:51:41,230 –> 00:51:45,190
\nRemember what John said in his
\nin his gospel he said this is <\/p>\n
794
\n00:51:45,190 –> 00:51:48,390
\nlife eternal.
\nWhat is that? <\/p>\n
795
\n00:51:48,390 –> 00:51:54,230
\nThey might know thee, the only
\ntrue God and Jesus Christ whom <\/p>\n
796
\n00:51:54,230 –> 00:51:57,150
\nthere has sin.
\nLife eternal is based on a <\/p>\n
797
\n00:51:57,150 –> 00:52:00,040
\nknowledge.
\nOf God and his Son, Jesus <\/p>\n
798
\n00:52:00,040 –> 00:52:04,040
\nChrist.
\nAnd that that means basically <\/p>\n
799
\n00:52:04,040 –> 00:52:06,560
\nwhat he’s saying.
\nIf if we don’t know Christ, we <\/p>\n
800
\n00:52:06,560 –> 00:52:11,760
\nare not in him.
\nLittle children, let no man <\/p>\n
801
\n00:52:11,760 –> 00:52:17,240
\ndeceive you.
\nHe that doeth righteousness is <\/p>\n
802
\n00:52:17,240 –> 00:52:20,320
\nrighteous in front of God in
\nterms of what what God sees, <\/p>\n
803
\n00:52:21,160 –> 00:52:25,400
\neven as he, Jesus Christ, is
\nrighteous. <\/p>\n
804
\n00:52:27,970 –> 00:52:31,970
\nYou, brothers and sisters, are
\nbasking in someone else’s <\/p>\n
805
\n00:52:31,970 –> 00:52:36,130
\nvictory, and that is part of
\nGod’s plan. <\/p>\n
806
\n00:52:36,490 –> 00:52:39,210
\nHe wants you.
\nJesus Christ wants you to be a <\/p>\n
807
\n00:52:39,210 –> 00:52:42,610
\npart of his victory.
\nThat is remarkable. <\/p>\n
808
\n00:52:44,050 –> 00:52:50,610
\nWhoever abides in him sins not
\nwhat a state to be in. <\/p>\n
809
\n00:52:53,050 –> 00:52:55,210
\nSo we have here the third
\ncondition. <\/p>\n
810
\n00:52:56,060 –> 00:52:58,140
\nJohn just simply calls it
\nabiding in him. <\/p>\n
811
\n00:52:59,820 –> 00:53:04,260
\nRemember when the political son
\ncame home he abide he was stayed<\/p>\n
812
\n00:53:04,500 –> 00:53:08,340
\nin the house with his father.
\nThat’s abiding in Christ. <\/p>\n
813
\n00:53:08,740 –> 00:53:11,980
\nWhat a wonderful thing that is.
\nYou see what God say. <\/p>\n
814
\n00:53:12,180 –> 00:53:17,540
\nJust follow this progression if
\nwe are in Him and we have no sin<\/p>\n
815
\n00:53:17,580 –> 00:53:21,220
\nfrom God’s perspective because
\nwe are baptized. <\/p>\n
816
\n00:53:21,740 –> 00:53:23,940
\nWe are now.
\nIn Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n
817
\n00:53:26,170 –> 00:53:28,410
\nHe’s not looking at you or me
\nanymore. <\/p>\n
818
\n00:53:28,810 –> 00:53:32,010
\nSee the point?
\nHe’s looking at his son. <\/p>\n
819
\n00:53:33,290 –> 00:53:39,530
\nWe are covered by Christ,
\nbecause inside him, if you like.<\/p>\n
820
\n00:53:39,930 –> 00:53:44,210
\nThe progression is at work.
\nIt’s happening. <\/p>\n
821
\n00:53:46,210 –> 00:53:48,250
\nHe’s looking at his son, Jesus
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
822
\n00:53:49,650 –> 00:53:51,170
\nI don’t think we think about
\nthat enough. <\/p>\n
823
\n00:53:52,170 –> 00:53:55,210
\nI think sometimes we get so full
\nof despair and disappointment <\/p>\n
824
\n00:53:55,210 –> 00:53:58,570
\nand sadness of our own selves
\nthat we forget that we’re <\/p>\n
825
\n00:53:58,570 –> 00:54:01,170
\nactually in Christ and we have a
\ncovering. <\/p>\n
826
\n00:54:02,730 –> 00:54:06,210
\nI need to believe that.
\nI need to believe in my life, <\/p>\n
827
\n00:54:06,210 –> 00:54:08,010
\nthat God is covering me and I’m
\ngoing to do something. <\/p>\n
828
\n00:54:08,010 –> 00:54:12,210
\nAbout that, I’m going to show my
\nappreciation by the way I, I I <\/p>\n
829
\n00:54:12,210 –> 00:54:16,090
\nact and what I do and what I
\nlook at and what I see and how I<\/p>\n
830
\n00:54:16,090 –> 00:54:18,370
\ntreat others.
\nThat’s the least I can do, is <\/p>\n
831
\n00:54:18,370 –> 00:54:22,120
\nshow my appreciation.
\nJohn is not saying that once <\/p>\n
832
\n00:54:22,120 –> 00:54:23,920
\nwe’re baptized we don’t actually
\nsin. <\/p>\n
833
\n00:54:24,080 –> 00:54:27,280
\nNot saying that at all, because
\nin verse verse 10 of chapter one<\/p>\n
834
\n00:54:27,280 –> 00:54:29,080
\nhe says.
\nIf we say. <\/p>\n
835
\n00:54:29,080 –> 00:54:33,840
\nThat we have not sinned, we make
\nhim a liar, and his word is not <\/p>\n
836
\n00:54:33,840 –> 00:54:37,040
\nin us.
\nJohn’s saying of course we sin. <\/p>\n
837
\n00:54:37,920 –> 00:54:39,920
\nNot saying that you don’t, that
\nyou don’t sin. <\/p>\n
838
\n00:54:39,920 –> 00:54:41,320
\nMe.
\nI’m saying that you are in <\/p>\n
839
\n00:54:41,560 –> 00:54:46,840
\nChrist, and as far as God is
\nconcerned, you are sinless. <\/p>\n
840
\n00:54:47,320 –> 00:54:52,950
\nThat is just astonishing.
\nThat is an astonishing state to <\/p>\n
841
\n00:54:52,950 –> 00:54:55,910
\nbe in.
\nYet that is the God we serve. <\/p>\n
842
\n00:54:55,910 –> 00:55:06,470
\nDid you find that incredible?
\nHe’s talking about a way of <\/p>\n
843
\n00:55:06,470 –> 00:55:10,350
\nlife.
\nHe’s talking about it holy. <\/p>\n
844
\n00:55:10,350 –> 00:55:12,430
\nOur Bible talks about a.
\nHoly conversation. <\/p>\n
845
\n00:55:12,630 –> 00:55:18,830
\nA holy way of life.
\nOur way of life, with God at the<\/p>\n
846
\n00:55:18,830 –> 00:55:22,510
\ncenter.
\nAnd all that that entails. <\/p>\n
847
\n00:55:23,230 –> 00:55:27,710
\nJohn says that God in his love
\nconsiders us sinless. <\/p>\n
848
\n00:55:29,190 –> 00:55:32,750
\nPaul says Paul puts it another
\nway he he merely says justified <\/p>\n
849
\n00:55:33,270 –> 00:55:36,950
\nby faith.
\nThat’s the way Paul puts it, <\/p>\n
850
\n00:55:37,310 –> 00:55:40,350
\nexactly the same thing.
\nWe are justified by faith. <\/p>\n
851
\n00:55:40,550 –> 00:55:44,270
\nThe faith part is because I
\nbelieve that God is faithful and<\/p>\n
852
\n00:55:44,270 –> 00:55:50,050
\njust to his word.
\nSo his point is, and you’ve got <\/p>\n
853
\n00:55:50,050 –> 00:55:53,210
\nthese these stories and
\nmetaphors right through the <\/p>\n
854
\n00:55:53,210 –> 00:55:55,850
\nBible.
\nYou know if we abide in Christ, <\/p>\n
855
\n00:55:56,090 –> 00:55:59,970
\nif we are in the Ark, or if we
\nare in Rahab’s. <\/p>\n
856
\n00:55:59,970 –> 00:56:03,130
\nHouse on top of the wall.
\nOr in the house while the Angel <\/p>\n
857
\n00:56:03,130 –> 00:56:08,090
\nof death passed over all these
\nthings, God is saying your <\/p>\n
858
\n00:56:08,090 –> 00:56:13,010
\nsalvation is assured.
\nYes, we are rightly related to <\/p>\n
859
\n00:56:13,010 –> 00:56:16,650
\ndeath, but God is saying your
\neternal salvation is assured, <\/p>\n
860
\n00:56:16,810 –> 00:56:17,970
\nnot presumed.
\nUpon. <\/p>\n
861
\n00:56:20,410 –> 00:56:24,370
\nBut in John’s language, we can
\nhave confidence in the Day of <\/p>\n
862
\n00:56:24,370 –> 00:56:29,450
\nJudgment as a result of this
\nprocess, Confidence in the Day <\/p>\n
863
\n00:56:29,450 –> 00:56:33,490
\nof Judgment an incredible.
\nWord to use and what that <\/p>\n
864
\n00:56:33,490 –> 00:56:37,090
\nconfidence produces.
\nAll that boldness in Christ <\/p>\n
865
\n00:56:37,410 –> 00:56:41,050
\nproduces the peace that passes
\nall understanding. <\/p>\n
866
\n00:56:43,810 –> 00:56:46,450
\nRemember when Christ said my
\npiece I give to you. <\/p>\n
867
\n00:56:47,920 –> 00:56:51,040
\nNot as the world giveth.
\nThis is what he’s talking about,<\/p>\n
868
\n00:56:51,400 –> 00:56:57,680
\nthis deep sense of peace,
\nknowing that we are actually at <\/p>\n
869
\n00:56:57,680 –> 00:57:01,480
\nwork with God and he’s producing
\nwithin us a good, a good work. <\/p>\n
870
\n00:57:02,560 –> 00:57:03,880
\nAnd isn’t this where God wants
\nus? <\/p>\n
871
\n00:57:04,120 –> 00:57:07,160
\nGod just doesn’t want us to, to
\nkeep God that doesn’t want to <\/p>\n
872
\n00:57:07,160 –> 00:57:11,400
\nkeep for giving us this in this
\nsort of mindless, cyclic way. <\/p>\n
873
\n00:57:11,400 –> 00:57:15,000
\nIt’s not what God is about.
\nYes, he will keep forgiving. <\/p>\n
874
\n00:57:15,000 –> 00:57:18,270
\nUs.
\nBut he wants us to eventually <\/p>\n
875
\n00:57:18,510 –> 00:57:21,790
\nturn from sin and abide in
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
876
\n00:57:21,790 –> 00:57:24,510
\nThat’s what he wants.
\nIt’s an incredible state to be <\/p>\n
877
\n00:57:24,510 –> 00:57:28,070
\nin.
\nWell brothers and sisters our <\/p>\n
878
\n00:57:28,110 –> 00:57:33,710
\ntime where I think we we’ve been
\nof a late start than we one give<\/p>\n
879
\n00:57:33,710 –> 00:57:36,550
\nme one more minute I just want
\nto I just want to quickly just <\/p>\n
880
\n00:57:36,550 –> 00:57:43,030
\ngive you the final condition and
\nthe final condition is this. <\/p>\n
881
\n00:57:43,630 –> 00:57:46,070
\nIt seemed we were in first John
\nforeign verse. <\/p>\n
882
\n00:57:46,420 –> 00:57:49,780
\nHave a look at verse 7.
\nThere’s one more condition. <\/p>\n
883
\n00:57:50,060 –> 00:57:52,580
\nWhich we’re going to take a
\nwhole study to look at, but here<\/p>\n
884
\n00:57:52,580 –> 00:57:55,980
\nit is here very, very quickly
\nverse seven and first John 4. <\/p>\n
885
\n00:57:57,140 –> 00:58:03,140
\nIt’s it’s the the condition of
\nmutual forgiveness, forgiveness <\/p>\n
886
\n00:58:03,140 –> 00:58:06,820
\nbetween ourselves, beloved.
\nNow I’m going to change the word<\/p>\n
887
\n00:58:06,820 –> 00:58:09,580
\nlove here to forgiveness so that
\nwe get the the sense of it. <\/p>\n
888
\n00:58:10,900 –> 00:58:14,780
\nBecause forgiveness at the end
\nof the day springs out of love. <\/p>\n
889
\n00:58:15,280 –> 00:58:21,880
\nBeloved, let us forgive one
\nanother for forgiveness is from <\/p>\n
890
\n00:58:21,880 –> 00:58:26,280
\nGod and everyone that.
\nForgives is born. <\/p>\n
891
\n00:58:26,280 –> 00:58:31,280
\nOf God and knows God.
\nHe that forgives not knoweth not<\/p>\n
892
\n00:58:31,280 –> 00:58:37,720
\nGod, because God is love.
\nIn this was manifested the love <\/p>\n
893
\n00:58:37,720 –> 00:58:42,200
\nof God toward us, because that
\nGod sent his only begotten Son <\/p>\n
894
\n00:58:42,200 –> 00:58:44,600
\ninto the world that we.
\nMight live. <\/p>\n
895
\n00:58:45,150 –> 00:58:49,470
\nThat is, have forgiveness
\nthrough him here in his love. <\/p>\n
896
\n00:58:50,470 –> 00:58:56,790
\nNot that we love God first, but
\nthat he loved us first before we<\/p>\n
897
\n00:58:56,790 –> 00:59:02,390
\ncome to Him and sent his Son to
\nbe the mercy seat for our sins. <\/p>\n
898
\n00:59:03,190 –> 00:59:04,910
\nYes, this is all about
\nforgiveness. <\/p>\n
899
\n00:59:04,910 –> 00:59:09,950
\nNo doubt, beloved, if God so has
\nforgiven us, we ought also to <\/p>\n
900
\n00:59:09,950 –> 00:59:13,900
\nforgive one another.
\nAnd then John says no man has <\/p>\n
901
\n00:59:13,900 –> 00:59:15,740
\nseen God at anytime.
\nDo we all agree with that? <\/p>\n
902
\n00:59:15,780 –> 00:59:19,780
\nJohn says you all agree that
\nnobody’s seen God at anytime. <\/p>\n
903
\n00:59:19,780 –> 00:59:23,940
\nHe said yes, all agree.
\nBut then he says now if you <\/p>\n
904
\n00:59:23,940 –> 00:59:28,900
\nforgive each other, God dwells
\nin him. <\/p>\n
905
\n00:59:29,500 –> 00:59:33,060
\nIn us.
\nAh, and we can. <\/p>\n
906
\n00:59:33,060 –> 00:59:38,660
\nSee God in each other.
\nSo yes, you won’t see we haven’t<\/p>\n
907
\n00:59:38,660 –> 00:59:41,540
\nseen the God at anytime, but
\nwe’ve. <\/p>\n
908
\n00:59:42,130 –> 00:59:46,370
\nCan see God in each other and
\nhis love, His forgiveness is <\/p>\n
909
\n00:59:46,370 –> 00:59:49,290
\nperfected within us.
\nHis forgiveness bears fruit. <\/p>\n
910
\n00:59:51,050 –> 00:59:53,050
\nSo what’s God’s aim in all this,
\nbrothers and sisters? <\/p>\n
911
\n00:59:53,090 –> 00:59:58,610
\nAgain, without a doubt, to see
\nhimself in all of us. <\/p>\n
912
\n00:59:58,610 –> 01:00:02,690
\nSo your brothers and sisters, if
\nyou can’t see God in your <\/p>\n
913
\n01:00:02,690 –> 01:00:06,450
\nbrother or your sister, there’s
\nonly one thing to do. <\/p>\n
914
\n01:00:07,570 –> 01:00:10,810
\nShow God to your brother and and
\nsister. <\/p>\n
915
\n01:00:12,100 –> 01:00:14,900
\nAnd forgive them.
\nThat’s all there’s left to do. <\/p>\n
916
\n01:00:14,900 –> 01:00:19,060
\nAnd.
\nBecause you see verse eighteen <\/p>\n
917
\n01:00:19,060 –> 01:00:23,220
\nof first, first John four and
\nverse 18 there is No Fear in <\/p>\n
918
\n01:00:23,220 –> 01:00:28,180
\nlove.
\nBut perfect love casts out fear.<\/p>\n
919
\n01:00:28,820 –> 01:00:34,420
\nHerein is our love made perfect.
\nThat we might have boldness in <\/p>\n
920
\n01:00:34,420 –> 01:00:36,100
\nthe Day of Judgment.
\nHow? <\/p>\n
921
\n01:00:36,260 –> 01:00:40,220
\nHow do we have boldness?
\nBecause as he is. <\/p>\n
922
\n01:00:41,980 –> 01:00:49,820
\nSo are we in this world.
\nWe are Christ to our brother. <\/p>\n
923
\n01:00:51,100 –> 01:00:51,540
\nThank you.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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