{"id":968,"date":"2023-07-11T01:42:30","date_gmt":"2023-07-11T01:42:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/251-ben-brinkerhoff-romans-7-set-your-mind-on-the-things-of-the-spirit\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T08:43:51","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T08:43:51","slug":"251-ben-brinkerhoff-romans-7-set-your-mind-on-the-things-of-the-spirit","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/251-ben-brinkerhoff-romans-7-set-your-mind-on-the-things-of-the-spirit\/","title":{"rendered":"251: Ben Brinkerhoff – Romans 7 Set Your Mind On The Things Of The Spirit"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week\u2019s talk is a class from a series that was given at the Blackburn Melbourne Ecclesia in 2012. Bro Ben Brinkerhoff gave 5 classes on a Study of the Atonement in Romans 7 & 8 and today we\u2019re listening to class 2, entitled \u201cSet Your Mind On The Things Of The Spirit\u201d. All classes will soon be posted to GCT Extended and a special THANK YOU to Sister Jaime O’Grady (New Zealand) for being our guest host for the month of July. Sister Jaime has been a tremendous help behind the scenes with our social media and helping to organize and screen our stockpile of suggestions!<\/p>\n

We hope this strengthens your Faith and brightens your day!<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to good Chris Duffian
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\nI’m Levi.
\nAnd I’m Chris, and I’m Brian. <\/p>\n

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\nOn this podcast, we select one
\ntalk a week to help us get the <\/p>\n

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\nBible in our Daily News feed.
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\nstart of each week.
\nWith a short intro beforehand to<\/p>\n

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\nkind of set the stage for the
\ntalk you’re about to listen to. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now let’s talk more about
\nthis week’s talk. <\/p>\n

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\nHi, this week’s talk is the
\nsecond talk in a series on <\/p>\n

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\nRomans 7 and 8 by Brother Ben
\nBrinkerhoff. <\/p>\n

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\nBrother Ben takes us through a
\nsummary of the atonement and the<\/p>\n

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\nmeans of salvation as faith in
\nJesus Christ counted as <\/p>\n

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\nrighteousness.
\nBrother Ben says at the <\/p>\n

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\nbeginning of his series that
\nthese chapters can change your <\/p>\n

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\nlife and I found that to be
\ntrue. <\/p>\n

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\nThe first time I heard this
\nseries was in my mid teens and I<\/p>\n

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\nremember deciding during one of
\nthe talks that I wanted to be <\/p>\n

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\nbaptized.
\nI hope this talk helps you set <\/p>\n

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\nyour mind on things of the
\nSpirit like it did for me. <\/p>\n

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\nThe rest of this series can be
\nfound on the extended podcast. <\/p>\n

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\nThis class is Class 2 Roman
\nseven. <\/p>\n

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\nSet your mind on things of the
\nSpirit rather than Brinkhoff. <\/p>\n

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\nAll right.
\nGood morning. <\/p>\n

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\nSo much better.
\nAll right. <\/p>\n

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\nOK.
\nSo now we begin in earnest. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’ve built up the argument.
\nThe 1st 5 chapters kind of <\/p>\n

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\nskipped over Chapter 6.
\nFor the moment and now. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’re ready to really begin and
\ndig into Chapter 7, huh? <\/p>\n

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\nHow’s that sound?
\nBut I think as as annoying as <\/p>\n

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\nthis is, I’m going to have to
\nconstruct for you an <\/p>\n

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\nunderstanding of the atonement,
\nbecause I really can’t get into <\/p>\n

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\nChapter 7 until you understand
\nthe atonement now. <\/p>\n

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\nPaul begins, really, as we read
\nand as you studied and looked. <\/p>\n

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\nAt in the last.
\nClass The 1st 3 chapters of <\/p>\n

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\nRomans.
\nSaying that Jews and Gentiles <\/p>\n

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\nand you and me, we’ve all
\nfailed. <\/p>\n

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\nTo be free from sin.
\nRight, I’m. <\/p>\n

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\nGoing to try to use my slides
\nthis time. <\/p>\n

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\nThere you go.
\nNo one is just in God’s sight <\/p>\n

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\nthrough personal righteousness.
\nNow who’s taking notes? <\/p>\n

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\nSo I only put things on a screen
\nthat are really important. <\/p>\n

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\nSo you might want to those
\nthings are good to copy down. <\/p>\n

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\nBut I also have my notes.
\nIf anyone wants to look at them <\/p>\n

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\nafter, I’m happy for you to have
\nthem. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can copy them whatever you
\nwant to do. <\/p>\n

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\nSo begins by saying that
\neveryone has sinned. <\/p>\n

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\nBut, he explains, God is
\nactually willing. <\/p>\n

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\nGod is willing to count faith as
\nrighteousness. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a big deal, right?
\nJust pause for a moment there. <\/p>\n

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\nYou’re all sinners.
\nRight, but God is still willing <\/p>\n

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\nto say that you’re righteous by
\nfaith. <\/p>\n

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\nIf that faith is genuine and
\nit’s focused on God’s means for <\/p>\n

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\nsalvation, that means so that
\nmeans for salvation is finally <\/p>\n

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\nexplained in chapter 5, right
\noutside of the introduction. <\/p>\n

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\nJesus is not mentioned in the
\n1st 4 chapters of Romans. <\/p>\n

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\nBut in finally in chapter five
\nwe we find out that that faith <\/p>\n

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\nmust be in Jesus Christ.
\nSo the question then becomes, I <\/p>\n

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\nguess this is the question of
\nthe atonement. <\/p>\n

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\nHow can Jesus save you?
\nWho here by show of hands feels <\/p>\n

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\nvery.
\nConfident in being able to <\/p>\n

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\naddress this question, You guys
\nremember back to your baptismal <\/p>\n

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\ninterviews, right?
\nAnd you get the questions on the<\/p>\n

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\natonement, you just sort of keep
\non just answering God and Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nas your answers and the and the
\nmoderators kind of pushes you <\/p>\n

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\nthrough it, you know.
\nAt least that’s how many <\/p>\n

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\nbachelors interviews I’ve been
\non sit. <\/p>\n

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\nThey sit through, you know and
\nyou keep on saying Jesus and <\/p>\n

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\neventually that’s the right
\nanswer. <\/p>\n

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\nRight.
\nHow can Jesus save you, Jesus? <\/p>\n

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\nYou know.
\nSo we’re going to, we’re going <\/p>\n

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\nto we’re.
\nJust going to go over this very <\/p>\n

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\nsimply.
\nBut I really want you to if you <\/p>\n

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\ndon’t feel comfortable with
\nbeing able to. <\/p>\n

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\nArticulate the principles of the
\natonement. <\/p>\n

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\nThen pay attention because this
\nwill help you. <\/p>\n

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\nI think.
\nOkay, how can Jesus save you? <\/p>\n

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\nPoint #1.
\nIs he did not sin right. <\/p>\n

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\nWithout that, he would not be
\nable to save you. <\/p>\n

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\nI think that’s the part we all
\nkind of feel very comfortable <\/p>\n

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\nwith.
\nBut there’s a second aspect of <\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nThat I I I’ve actually. <\/p>\n

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\nNot heard very well articulated
\namongst our young people in <\/p>\n

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\nwhich I didn’t really come to a
\ngood understanding of until <\/p>\n

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\nrecently.
\nAnd there’s a second element <\/p>\n

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\nthat that.
\nThat Jesus can save us, and <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s because on the cross he
\ndestroyed his body. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd his body was the thing
\ninside of him that rebelled <\/p>\n

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\nagainst doing.
\nGod’s will. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a really big concept.
\nJesus chose to die. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we’re going to get into this
\nconcept a little bit more later,<\/p>\n

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\nbut that one’s, that one’s
\nabsolutely essential. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s not just that he didn’t
\nsin. <\/p>\n

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\nSo he chose to put to death the
\nvery thing inside of him that <\/p>\n

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\ndidn’t want to do God’s will.
\nAnd you have it inside of you. <\/p>\n

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\nYou have that rebellion inside
\nof you. <\/p>\n

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\nThe thing that that in your
\nmind, that carnal mind, whatever<\/p>\n

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\nyou want to call it, doesn’t
\nwant to do God’s will. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Jesus put it to death, OK.
\nSo the combination of those two <\/p>\n

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\nthings is actually that God’s
\nrighteousness is declared, it’s <\/p>\n

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\nin those two things combined
\nthat God’s righteousness is <\/p>\n

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\ndeclared.
\nSo he rules over death. <\/p>\n

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\nOK, we’re going to get into that
\na little bit more in a little <\/p>\n

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\nbit, but that’s the equation.
\nI could, if you could narrow it <\/p>\n

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\ndown to an equation, that would
\nbe your equation. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s all about God’s
\nrighteousness. <\/p>\n

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\nSo when God’s righteousness was
\ndemonstrated, God was willing to<\/p>\n

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\nsave those who have sinned.
\nWho here has sinned? <\/p>\n

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\nAlyssa, you’re raising your
\nhand. <\/p>\n

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\nWe all we’ve all sinned.
\nWe’ve all sinned so, but God is <\/p>\n

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\nwilling to actually save those
\nwho have sinned but on a <\/p>\n

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\ncondition.
\nAnd the condition is that you <\/p>\n

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\nconsider God to be righteous the
\nsame way Jesus did, and you <\/p>\n

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\nactually demonstrate that God is
\nrighteous the same way Jesus <\/p>\n

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\ndid.
\nNow how do we declare that God <\/p>\n

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\nis righteous?
\nHow do we declare that God is <\/p>\n

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\nright?
\nThe same way that Jesus did one.<\/p>\n

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\nWe have faith.
\nI meant that’s the wrong way. <\/p>\n

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\nOK?
\nWe we declare God righteous the <\/p>\n

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\nsame way Jesus did.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

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\nFirst of all, our old nature.
\nOur nature. <\/p>\n

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\nOur old man is crucified with
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\nNotice the word with.
\nRight. <\/p>\n

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\nObviously, I’ve emphasized it on
\nthe screen. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s kind of an important word
\nhere. <\/p>\n

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\nYou’ll kind of see it come up
\nagain. <\/p>\n

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\nSecondly, we are buried.
\nWith him. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’re dead with Christ.
\nYou choose to live with him. <\/p>\n

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\nGuys going to get the the theme
\nhere. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat’s the common word in all
\nthose four things I just brought<\/p>\n

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\nup with?
\nWhat mean? <\/p>\n

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\nWell, you can say it.
\nIt’s OK. <\/p>\n

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\nOnly this, Do you guys not do
\naudience participation in New <\/p>\n

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\nZealand?
\nIs that the American thing? <\/p>\n

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\nNow what’s the common word that
\nwithin all four of those things <\/p>\n

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\nthat is put on the screen?
\nYoung people say it one 2-3 with<\/p>\n

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\nhim right now.
\nWhy is that so important? <\/p>\n

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\nWhy is this idea of being with
\nChrist? <\/p>\n

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\nWell, obviously you’re you have
\nto do what Christ Did you get <\/p>\n

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\nit?
\nNow there’s these two ideas, the<\/p>\n

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\nAtonement.
\nOne of them is a Christ did it <\/p>\n

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\nfor you.
\nThe other is. <\/p>\n

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\nChrist shows you how.
\nYou get these two ideas. <\/p>\n

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\nThey’re very different.
\nOne is that Christ did <\/p>\n

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\neverything for you.
\nThe other is that he shows you <\/p>\n

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\nhow.
\nOne is called substitution. <\/p>\n

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\nThe other called is
\nrepresentation. <\/p>\n

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\nNow it’s very important because
\nif Christ did everything for <\/p>\n

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\nyou, then why do you have to do
\nit? <\/p>\n

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\nBut actually what scriptures
\nsaying to us is that we have to <\/p>\n

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\nparticipate in this idea of
\nChrist’s death and resurrection.<\/p>\n

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\nSo in baptism then what are we
\ndoing in baptism? <\/p>\n

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\nIn baptism, what we’re doing is
\nin symbol. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’re putting our bodies in the
\ngrave. <\/p>\n

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\nNow why would we do that?
\nYou think about baptism, it’s <\/p>\n

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\nyou are in symbol dying when you
\ngo under those wires of baptism,<\/p>\n

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\nthat is a symbolic death.
\nNow why? <\/p>\n

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\nWould you choose to die?
\nYou choose to die because you <\/p>\n

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\nare confessing that that’s what
\nyour sin deserves and you’re. <\/p>\n

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\nChoosing to say publicly that
\nGod, and not you, is righteous. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s what baptism is.
\nAnd you’re saying to everyone, <\/p>\n

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\nI’m willing to go underneath
\nthese waters because God is <\/p>\n

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\nright, and you’re declaring that
\nhe’s right because you’re saying<\/p>\n

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\nmy sin and my sinfulness deserve
\nto die, and by showing that <\/p>\n

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\nChrist represents.
\nUs. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd doing what Christ did and
\nacting out, in a sense what <\/p>\n

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\nChrist did.
\nAnd declaring primarily and <\/p>\n

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\nfirst and foremost perhaps, that
\nGod is just, that God is right <\/p>\n

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\nGod’s.
\nWilling for us to share in Jesus<\/p>\n

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\nresurrection as well and that.
\nWhat do you think what I mean if<\/p>\n

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\nit going under the water.
\nIs a symbolic death. <\/p>\n

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\nThen what is coming out of the
\nwater, you think? <\/p>\n

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\nThank you, Sharon.
\nIt’s very good participation. <\/p>\n

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\nYes.
\nIt’s a symbolic resurrection. <\/p>\n

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\nNow, aren’t you?
\nAren’t we glad that our? <\/p>\n

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\nBaptismal Brothers didn’t decide
\nto stand straight to the <\/p>\n

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\nKingdom.
\nYou know, I’m just going to keep<\/p>\n

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\nyou down there, you know, you
\ngot a one way ticket. <\/p>\n

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\nNo, you you you got.
\nTo come out of the waters, and <\/p>\n

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\nthat coming out of the waters is
\na symbolic resurrection. <\/p>\n

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\nDo you see the word
\nparticipating in the death and <\/p>\n

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\nthe resurrection of Christ
\nthrough baptism? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd if we’re participating the
\ndeath and resurrection of <\/p>\n

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\nChrist, then once you put
\nforward the idea as being a <\/p>\n

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\npretty fundamental 1.
\nThat when you go through that <\/p>\n

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\nparticipation of the death and
\nresurrection of Christ, that you<\/p>\n

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\nmust also be declaring to God
\nvery similar things as Jesus <\/p>\n

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\ndeclared to God in his death and
\nresurrection. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what did Jesus declare to
\nGod in his death and <\/p>\n

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\nresurrection?
\nHe’s declaring that God was <\/p>\n

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\nright, that God is right.
\nWe’re going to get to that in a <\/p>\n

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\nlittle bit.
\nThat’s a very, very, very <\/p>\n

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\nimportant thing.
\nWe’ll get to that a little bit <\/p>\n

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\nmore later.
\nWell, some were saying, some are<\/p>\n

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\nsaying that.
\nA life in Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nIs just a free license to sin.
\nWhy not? <\/p>\n

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\nEspecially if the resolves
\ngrace, and grace is a good <\/p>\n

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\nthing.
\nIn other words, we ought to <\/p>\n

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\ndeliberately choose profane and
\nsinful lifestyle. <\/p>\n

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\nDeliberately choose it because
\nwe get more forgiveness that <\/p>\n

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\nway.
\nNow we think that that’s a <\/p>\n

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\nridiculous argument, but I don’t
\nthink it’s very ridiculous <\/p>\n

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\nbecause we as baptized young
\npeople and as elders we <\/p>\n

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\nsometimes deliberately choose a
\nprofane and simple lifestyle. <\/p>\n

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\nWhy is that?
\nThat That’s an argument which <\/p>\n

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\nwhich has a lot of bearing today
\nand so. <\/p>\n

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\nPaul really speaks to that, and
\nPaul says that actually this <\/p>\n

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\nwould be impossible.
\nIt would be totally inconsistent<\/p>\n

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\nwith a life in Christ.
\nSee, the reason that we’re <\/p>\n

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\nbaptized is we in symbol put to
\ndeath our sinful nature the same<\/p>\n

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\nway Jesus did we put it to
\ndeath. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd in the process of putting to
\ndeath our sinful nature in <\/p>\n

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\nsymbol we declare God as
\nrighteous. <\/p>\n

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\nNow to sin deliberately is to
\ndeclare to everyone. <\/p>\n

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\nThat nature didn’t really,
\nsymbolically die. <\/p>\n

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\nIn fact, the ceremony was kind
\nof like a sham. <\/p>\n

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\nWe didn’t really symbolically
\nput our nature to death. <\/p>\n

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\nWe were.
\nWe didn’t symbolically <\/p>\n

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\nparticipate in the death of
\nChrist in the cross. <\/p>\n

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\nOf course, assuming sitting.
\nDeliberately, and Paul says no, <\/p>\n

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\nthat couldn’t be.
\nPaul says that in Christ you’re <\/p>\n

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\nresurrected to a new life, free
\nfrom sin. <\/p>\n

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\nWe should come out of baptism to
\na new life and that in this new <\/p>\n

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\nlife.
\nWe try to be like Christ as he <\/p>\n

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\nnow is now.
\nHow is Christ now? <\/p>\n

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\nChrist is in heaven, fulfilling
\nthe perfect will of God. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is Christ’s resurrected
\nlife. <\/p>\n

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\nWhen Christ came out of the
\nwaters of baptism, you tell me <\/p>\n

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\nthat he desires sin any longer.
\nNo. <\/p>\n

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\nDid he desire to do evil any
\nlonger. <\/p>\n

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\nDid he have rebellion in his
\nheart any longer? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so we come out of those
\nwaters of baptism. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is the life that we’re
\ntaking on. <\/p>\n

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\nNow, we don’t do it perfectly.
\nI understand it’s a symbol, and <\/p>\n

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\nyou understand that’s a symbol.
\nBut that is the symbol. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is the life that we’re
\ntaking on. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Paul says, if you take on
\nthat life, how could you choose <\/p>\n

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\nto sin deliberately?
\nIt would be completely <\/p>\n

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\nconsistent with that choice.
\nThis new life in Christ is based<\/p>\n

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\non the premise, based on the
\npremise that the rebellious, <\/p>\n

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\nsinful nature with all of its
\nwillfulness. <\/p>\n

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\nWas put to death.
\nThat’s the premise this life is <\/p>\n

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\nbased on in after baptism.
\nAnd this implies young people. <\/p>\n

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\nWe offer a full surrender of
\nself to the will of God. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that is more.
\nEncompassing than a surrender to<\/p>\n

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\nthe rule of law.
\nIt’s a surrender of self. <\/p>\n

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\nSo it’s Romans 7 in a nutshell.
\nPaul shows in Romans 7 that a <\/p>\n

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\nlife lived under the law made
\nsin, if not deliberate, <\/p>\n

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\ninevitable, because I want to
\nmake sure that. <\/p>\n

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\nMakes sense for a moment.
\nPaul shows that a life lived <\/p>\n

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\nunder the law makes sin, if not
\ndeliberate, inevitable. <\/p>\n

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\nWhy will you tell me?
\nIf God gave us a series. <\/p>\n

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\nOf commands and to show us.
\nClearly what right and wrong was<\/p>\n

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\nas God himself declared that
\nright and wrong. <\/p>\n

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\nHow?
\nLong would it take for everyone <\/p>\n

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\nin this room eventually to break
\none of those laws? <\/p>\n

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\nMaybe it would a while.
\nBut eventually we’d all do it, <\/p>\n

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\nwouldn’t we?
\nAnd so. <\/p>\n

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\nThe law made sin inevitable.
\nBecause the law showed us what <\/p>\n

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\nright and wrong really was.
\nAnd be by knowing right and <\/p>\n

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\nwrong.
\nReally. <\/p>\n

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\nWas it showed us?
\nWithout any doubt at all that we<\/p>\n

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\nwere on the wrong side, at least
\noccasionally. <\/p>\n

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\nSo the question that had to be
\nasked then is this one if the <\/p>\n

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\nlaw made sin inevitable.
\nIs the law. <\/p>\n

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\nTo be blamed?
\nOr are we to be blamed? <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s the question.
\nThat’s the question of Chapter <\/p>\n

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\n7.
\nThis is chapter seven in a <\/p>\n

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\nnutshell.
\nThe Big nutshell. <\/p>\n

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\nStill nutshell if the law.
\nMade sin inevitable? <\/p>\n

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\nThen is the law to be blamed or
\nwe to be blamed? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’d be really nice to blame
\nsomeone, by the way, wouldn’t <\/p>\n

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\nthat be great?
\nWouldn’t be great to blame <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone for sin?
\nBut be. <\/p>\n

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\nFantastic, you know.
\nIt’s his fault. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s her fault.
\nIt’s my wife’s fault, my kids <\/p>\n

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\nfault.
\nIt’s. <\/p>\n

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\nUncle Viv’s fault?
\nI don’t know. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s someone’s fault.
\nRight, but the law. <\/p>\n

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\nActually made it personal.
\nYou can’t blame. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can’t blame.
\nAnd so to demonstrate the point <\/p>\n

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\npolitics of the question then
\nhow do how does Paul going to <\/p>\n

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\ndemonstrate that it’s it’s us
\nand not the law that’s at fault.<\/p>\n

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\nThe law may remember the law
\nmakes sin inevitable. <\/p>\n

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\nIf God says this is what I
\nexpect of you, it almost is <\/p>\n

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\ninevitable that you break it and
\nit shows you to be a Sinner. <\/p>\n

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\nSo so well if the.
\nLaw makes sin inevitable, Paul. <\/p>\n

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\nMaybe.
\nMaybe it’s the law’s. <\/p>\n

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\nFault because it’s inevitable
\nthat I’m going to sin. <\/p>\n

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\nMaybe the problem was the law.
\nI should never have gotten that <\/p>\n

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\nlaw.
\nMaybe I was set up to fail by <\/p>\n

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\nthis law.
\nYou can see the questions start <\/p>\n

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\nto arise.
\nAnd so how does Paul then begin <\/p>\n

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\nto prove that it’s actually our
\nfault and not the laws? <\/p>\n

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\nSo to demonstrate the point,
\nPaul takes up the question and <\/p>\n

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\nthe question is this.
\nWhat then was the purpose of the<\/p>\n

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\nlaw?
\nWe partially addressed this <\/p>\n

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\nquestion in our last class.
\nThat class I hope made clear. <\/p>\n

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\nThat the purpose of the law was
\nto show us our sin. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I did a horrible job of
\nshowing my slides last class, <\/p>\n

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\nbut I had this fantastic slide
\nof this dark. <\/p>\n

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\nRoom with a flashlight.
\nAnd the dark room was the law <\/p>\n

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\nand the flashlight was the law
\nand it was shining sin. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s what the law was
\nreally supposed to do, is <\/p>\n

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\nsupposed to show us what sin was
\nand show us that we’re sinful, <\/p>\n

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\nyou know?
\nBut. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat happens when we’re kids?
\nI had babies. <\/p>\n

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\nWho here has had a baby?
\nRight. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s some of us.
\nSo we all kind of get this I <\/p>\n

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\nthink a little bit.
\nWhat is life like for babies? <\/p>\n

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\nWell, I’d say this is a good
\nsummary. <\/p>\n

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\nThey want plus they take.
\nPlus, they’re happy equals <\/p>\n

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\nthey’re happy.
\nNow that happiness is is, by the<\/p>\n

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\nway, very momentary.
\nBut for the moment at least. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is sheer.
\nHappiness, especially if someone<\/p>\n

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\nelse was having it first.
\nBut this is what it’s like to be<\/p>\n

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\na kid.
\nYou don’t think about it. <\/p>\n

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\nYou want something, you take it.
\nThere’s no conflict. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is perfectly integrated.
\nThere’s a lot of integrity in <\/p>\n

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\nthis statement.
\nI want it. <\/p>\n

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\nI take it.
\nI’m happy. <\/p>\n

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\nBut then what happens when God
\nsays I don’t want you to take it<\/p>\n

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\nand you and and not only that,
\nbe you become old enough where <\/p>\n

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\nyou understand why maybe God
\ndoesn’t want you to take it. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat happens then?
\nWell, you want it still. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean, just like let’s just a
\nlittle baby wanted something. <\/p>\n

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\nYou still want it that hasn’t
\nchanged. <\/p>\n

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\nBut now you have God’s law.
\nWhen God says to you you <\/p>\n

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\nshouldn’t take it.
\nNow there’s conflict. <\/p>\n

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\nYou see.
\nBefore there’s no conflict. <\/p>\n

330
\n00:21:00,670 –> 00:21:03,070
\nFor the child, for the child.
\nThere’s no. <\/p>\n

331
\n00:21:03,070 –> 00:21:05,270
\nThe only call for the child is
\nme. <\/p>\n

332
\n00:21:05,270 –> 00:21:06,910
\nI can’t do this in this country,
\nbut I do. <\/p>\n

333
\n00:21:07,110 –> 00:21:10,310
\nYou smack the hand, you know?
\nAnd the conflict is not wanting <\/p>\n

334
\n00:21:10,310 –> 00:21:13,260
\nto spank.
\nBut there’s no conflict in <\/p>\n

335
\n00:21:13,260 –> 00:21:15,660
\nwanting what they want and
\nwanting to take it. <\/p>\n

336
\n00:21:16,740 –> 00:21:22,420
\nBut now for the adult, they
\nunderstand God’s law, and so now<\/p>\n

337
\n00:21:22,420 –> 00:21:24,980
\nor before, there’s no.
\nConflict for the child. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:21:25,780 –> 00:21:30,540
\nNow there’s this conflict for
\nthe adult, and the conflict <\/p>\n

339
\n00:21:30,540 –> 00:21:41,350
\nbegins.
\nOK, So what do I mean by this <\/p>\n

340
\n00:21:41,350 –> 00:21:44,590
\nconflict?
\nI want you to imagine a society.<\/p>\n

341
\n00:21:46,510 –> 00:21:51,390
\nIn which envy and jealousy are
\nconsidered virtue. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:21:53,750 –> 00:21:59,590
\nIn this society, everyone wants
\nto have the toys and the jobs <\/p>\n

343
\n00:21:59,710 –> 00:22:03,070
\nand the looks and the status of
\nsomebody else. <\/p>\n

344
\n00:22:04,070 –> 00:22:09,750
\nIn fact, the more you want what
\nsomeone else has, the harder you<\/p>\n

345
\n00:22:09,750 –> 00:22:12,300
\nwork to get it.
\nAnd the more money you spend in <\/p>\n

346
\n00:22:12,300 –> 00:22:15,020
\nthe pursuit and the more that
\ncommerce is enhanced. <\/p>\n

347
\n00:22:16,660 –> 00:22:24,020
\nIn fact, this society feels that
\nit was such a virtue to have to <\/p>\n

348
\n00:22:24,020 –> 00:22:25,460
\nhave.
\nEnvy and jealousy were such <\/p>\n

349
\n00:22:25,460 –> 00:22:30,580
\nvirtues that whole industries
\nwere created solely with the <\/p>\n

350
\n00:22:30,580 –> 00:22:33,780
\nintention of helping you to want
\nsomeone else’s things. <\/p>\n

351
\n00:22:35,460 –> 00:22:37,420
\nAttractive people were then
\nhired. <\/p>\n

352
\n00:22:38,080 –> 00:22:40,920
\nJust to show off how nice their
\nthings were so that you would <\/p>\n

353
\n00:22:40,920 –> 00:22:43,320
\nfeel insignificant and small
\nwithout their things. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:22:46,240 –> 00:22:49,800
\nImagine a society like that.
\nIt’s probably real hard to <\/p>\n

355
\n00:22:49,800 –> 00:22:52,800
\nimagine a society like.
\nAnd then a law. <\/p>\n

356
\n00:22:52,800 –> 00:22:57,960
\nWas then introduced into the
\nsociety that reflects the mind <\/p>\n

357
\n00:22:57,960 –> 00:23:04,680
\nof God and teaches that
\ncovetousness is wrong because <\/p>\n

358
\n00:23:04,680 –> 00:23:10,010
\nthat’s not what God is like.
\nNow, prior to the law, people <\/p>\n

359
\n00:23:10,010 –> 00:23:13,850
\ncoveted without remorse.
\nIn fact, they would voluntarily <\/p>\n

360
\n00:23:13,850 –> 00:23:18,250
\nsubject themselves to magazines
\nand ads that make to make them <\/p>\n

361
\n00:23:18,250 –> 00:23:21,010
\nfeel covetousness.
\nThey like covetousness. <\/p>\n

362
\n00:23:22,090 –> 00:23:25,610
\nThey go into into malls and
\nmarkets that were designed by <\/p>\n

363
\n00:23:25,610 –> 00:23:31,330
\nexperts in coveting who have pH
\nD’s in coveting that without any<\/p>\n

364
\n00:23:31,450 –> 00:23:33,650
\nthese these environments would
\nmake them covet. <\/p>\n

365
\n00:23:34,420 –> 00:23:36,820
\nAnd entice every sense of their
\nbodies. <\/p>\n

366
\n00:23:39,820 –> 00:23:43,500
\nThey would feel no remorse for
\nfor be coveting in that society.<\/p>\n

367
\n00:23:44,780 –> 00:23:47,220
\nWhy would they feel any remorse?
\nAnd be is the virtue. <\/p>\n

368
\n00:23:47,780 –> 00:23:52,420
\nIt makes commerce go round.
\nIt makes people strive for more.<\/p>\n

369
\n00:23:54,660 –> 00:23:58,060
\nBut now since God’s.
\nLaw is introduced into the <\/p>\n

370
\n00:23:58,060 –> 00:24:02,660
\nsociety.
\nIt’s clear. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:24:03,270 –> 00:24:04,870
\nWhat God’s righteous requirement
\nis. <\/p>\n

372
\n00:24:05,150 –> 00:24:10,230
\nAnd so now a conflict begins.
\nAnd in this society’s desire to <\/p>\n

373
\n00:24:10,230 –> 00:24:14,310
\nhave what belongs to other
\npeople, everyone in society <\/p>\n

374
\n00:24:14,310 –> 00:24:17,030
\nbegins to understand this really
\nfundamental, important thing. <\/p>\n

375
\n00:24:17,270 –> 00:24:25,310
\nAnd that’s this, that their body
\nand their nature does not care <\/p>\n

376
\n00:24:25,310 –> 00:24:29,870
\nat all for God’s word, for
\nfollowing his command, or for <\/p>\n

377
\n00:24:29,870 –> 00:24:34,020
\nGod’s righteousness.
\nIt simply wants other people’s <\/p>\n

378
\n00:24:34,020 –> 00:24:37,180
\nstuff where the God wants them
\nto want it or not. <\/p>\n

379
\n00:24:37,180 –> 00:24:41,740
\nDo you understand this?
\nDo you understand the conflict <\/p>\n

380
\n00:24:41,740 –> 00:24:45,700
\nnow, young people, before there
\nwas no conflict. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:24:46,500 –> 00:24:49,820
\nIt’s like being a child.
\nI want something, I take <\/p>\n

382
\n00:24:49,820 –> 00:24:53,420
\nsomething, I’m happy, but now
\nGod’s. <\/p>\n

383
\n00:24:53,620 –> 00:24:55,780
\nRighteous.
\nRequirement is now clear. <\/p>\n

384
\n00:24:58,560 –> 00:25:02,480
\nAnd and in it becoming clear,
\nthe thing that clarifies within <\/p>\n

385
\n00:25:02,480 –> 00:25:08,880
\nyourself is that your body does
\nnot care at all for God’s word, <\/p>\n

386
\n00:25:10,120 –> 00:25:13,280
\nyour nature.
\nDoes not care at all for God’s <\/p>\n

387
\n00:25:13,280 –> 00:25:16,920
\nrighteousness.
\nIt still wants things. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:25:17,920 –> 00:25:22,560
\nThe want has not gone away, it’s
\njust now you know what God <\/p>\n

389
\n00:25:22,560 –> 00:25:26,040
\nexpects of you, but the want is
\nstill there. <\/p>\n

390
\n00:25:30,460 –> 00:25:32,980
\nSo what would God’s laws do to
\nthis society? <\/p>\n

391
\n00:25:35,380 –> 00:25:38,980
\nI think it would make men
\nsinners because it would show <\/p>\n

392
\n00:25:38,980 –> 00:25:42,660
\nthem what sin is.
\nIt would teach people the <\/p>\n

393
\n00:25:42,660 –> 00:25:45,260
\ncontrast between their character
\nand God’s character. <\/p>\n

394
\n00:25:46,140 –> 00:25:49,660
\nWithout the law.
\nWithout God’s law, I think we <\/p>\n

395
\n00:25:49,660 –> 00:25:52,940
\nwould naturally act contrary to
\nalmost all of its statutes. <\/p>\n

396
\n00:25:54,990 –> 00:25:57,150
\nSo in addition to governing a
\nnation, what the law really <\/p>\n

397
\n00:25:57,150 –> 00:25:58,990
\nshows us is it shows us what
\nwe’re like. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:25:59,150 –> 00:26:03,470
\nIt’s like a mirror, and we look
\nin that mirror, we see the flame<\/p>\n

399
\n00:26:03,470 –> 00:26:06,270
\nof sinful passion inside.
\nNo? <\/p>\n

400
\n00:26:06,270 –> 00:26:15,430
\nRomans 7 verse five says for
\nwhen we were in the flesh, the <\/p>\n

401
\n00:26:15,430 –> 00:26:18,790
\nmotions of sin, which were by
\nthe law. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:26:20,270 –> 00:26:22,670
\nDid work on our members to bring
\nforth fruit unto death. <\/p>\n

403
\n00:26:22,790 –> 00:26:25,480
\nYou get that?
\nThe motions of that red is not. <\/p>\n

404
\n00:26:25,480 –> 00:26:31,840
\nPutting that really is a shame.
\nYou guys read that word passions<\/p>\n

405
\n00:26:31,840 –> 00:26:33,880
\nthere.
\nWho here can’t read that word <\/p>\n

406
\n00:26:33,880 –> 00:26:36,160
\npassions on the third line in
\nthe back? <\/p>\n

407
\n00:26:36,160 –> 00:26:38,840
\nYou can’t.
\nThat is that is just awful. <\/p>\n

408
\n00:26:41,280 –> 00:26:43,560
\nAll right, well, I’ll have to do
\nsome editing tonight. <\/p>\n

409
\n00:26:44,920 –> 00:26:50,040
\nAll right, so we read there,
\nthough, for when we are in the <\/p>\n

410
\n00:26:50,040 –> 00:26:53,080
\nflesh.
\nThe motions of sin, which were <\/p>\n

411
\n00:26:53,080 –> 00:26:56,600
\nby the law, the word motions.
\nThere is passions here in this <\/p>\n

412
\n00:26:56,600 –> 00:27:00,480
\ntranslation.
\nThe passions of sin which were <\/p>\n

413
\n00:27:00,480 –> 00:27:02,960
\nby the law, didn’t work, and our
\nmembers bring fruit for the <\/p>\n

414
\n00:27:02,960 –> 00:27:07,640
\ndeath.
\nYou see how close, how close sin<\/p>\n

415
\n00:27:07,640 –> 00:27:15,000
\nis with the law?
\nThe law brings out passions. <\/p>\n

416
\n00:27:15,440 –> 00:27:18,910
\nThey’re aroused by the law.
\nBecause when I was a child, I <\/p>\n

417
\n00:27:18,910 –> 00:27:20,110
\njust wanted things that I took
\nit. <\/p>\n

418
\n00:27:20,110 –> 00:27:22,470
\nIt was so clear I had no guilt
\nabout it. <\/p>\n

419
\n00:27:23,430 –> 00:27:26,190
\nBut now the law brings out all
\nthese passions. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:27:26,190 –> 00:27:28,430
\nAnd now from the law I know that
\nI’m a Sinner. <\/p>\n

421
\n00:27:28,430 –> 00:27:31,710
\nThe law is convicted me of sin
\nbecause I know what God requires<\/p>\n

422
\n00:27:31,710 –> 00:27:33,190
\nof me and I know I’m not doing
\nit. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:27:34,110 –> 00:27:37,830
\nSo the law just, it is, it sets
\nto work all this emotion, all <\/p>\n

424
\n00:27:37,830 –> 00:27:40,790
\nthis passion in me because I
\nhave all this conflict now I <\/p>\n

425
\n00:27:40,790 –> 00:27:44,110
\ndidn’t have before.
\nSo the law is very closely <\/p>\n

426
\n00:27:44,110 –> 00:27:46,430
\nassociated with sin.
\nSo Paul needs to explain in <\/p>\n

427
\n00:27:46,430 –> 00:27:48,110
\nverse 7.
\nIs the law. <\/p>\n

428
\n00:27:48,110 –> 00:27:50,670
\nSin.
\nWasn’t that our question we <\/p>\n

429
\n00:27:50,670 –> 00:27:52,670
\nstarted with.
\nWhat’s the first question I <\/p>\n

430
\n00:27:52,670 –> 00:27:53,670
\nasked?
\nYou in these studies. <\/p>\n

431
\n00:27:54,110 –> 00:27:57,750
\nI said, is the law sin?
\nNow do we understand why Paul <\/p>\n

432
\n00:27:57,750 –> 00:28:00,470
\nasked that question?
\nNow do we get why he asked that <\/p>\n

433
\n00:28:00,470 –> 00:28:03,230
\nquestion?
\nIs the law sin because of this? <\/p>\n

434
\n00:28:05,270 –> 00:28:07,430
\nNo.
\nPaul explains that the law is <\/p>\n

435
\n00:28:07,430 –> 00:28:08,910
\nright.
\nIt just shows us that we’re <\/p>\n

436
\n00:28:08,910 –> 00:28:12,390
\nsinful.
\nBut what’s important here is to <\/p>\n

437
\n00:28:12,390 –> 00:28:15,750
\nrecognize that people don’t sin
\ndeliberately. <\/p>\n

438
\n00:28:15,990 –> 00:28:19,910
\nThat grace would abound.
\nOkay, you don’t set off. <\/p>\n

439
\n00:28:19,990 –> 00:28:23,230
\nOn a intentional course to
\ncovet, at least you ought not <\/p>\n

440
\n00:28:23,230 –> 00:28:26,190
\nto.
\nYou can do, by the way, but you <\/p>\n

441
\n00:28:26,190 –> 00:28:28,230
\nought not to, and I don’t think
\nthat’s the way it works most the<\/p>\n

442
\n00:28:28,230 –> 00:28:29,630
\ntime.
\nI think you just covet <\/p>\n

443
\n00:28:29,630 –> 00:28:32,910
\nnaturally.
\nNo one has to make you try. <\/p>\n

444
\n00:28:34,110 –> 00:28:40,310
\nThey just do.
\nAnd so here’s the knife’s edge <\/p>\n

445
\n00:28:42,950 –> 00:28:45,980
\nif you can’t control.
\nThe desire to have. <\/p>\n

446
\n00:28:46,180 –> 00:28:50,340
\nWhat belongs to someone else?
\nWhat are you supposed to do? <\/p>\n

447
\n00:28:50,340 –> 00:28:56,740
\nLet me just repeat that.
\nIf you can’t control the desire <\/p>\n

448
\n00:28:57,220 –> 00:29:00,780
\nto have what belongs to someone
\nelse, what are you supposed to <\/p>\n

449
\n00:29:00,780 –> 00:29:04,060
\ndo?
\nI mean, by show of hands, who <\/p>\n

450
\n00:29:04,060 –> 00:29:06,940
\nhere is really, really good at
\ncontrolling their covetousness? <\/p>\n

451
\n00:29:08,420 –> 00:29:13,140
\nNot, not, not the this, not the
\nnot taking of things. <\/p>\n

452
\n00:29:13,550 –> 00:29:15,230
\nYou know, if you don’t take
\nthings, good for you. <\/p>\n

453
\n00:29:15,510 –> 00:29:18,350
\nI’m talking about your desire.
\nTo have it what belongs someone <\/p>\n

454
\n00:29:18,350 –> 00:29:21,470
\nelse?
\nIf you can’t control it. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:29:25,310 –> 00:29:26,950
\nYour desire to have among
\nsomeone else, what are you <\/p>\n

456
\n00:29:26,950 –> 00:29:29,150
\nsupposed to do?
\nAnd that’s that is really the <\/p>\n

457
\n00:29:29,150 –> 00:29:33,870
\nsharp edge of the problem,
\nbecause under the law, there’s <\/p>\n

458
\n00:29:33,870 –> 00:29:36,390
\nnothing you can do.
\nAnd that’s the point. <\/p>\n

459
\n00:29:37,270 –> 00:29:40,120
\nYou get it.
\nUnder the law, there is nothing <\/p>\n

460
\n00:29:40,120 –> 00:29:42,040
\nyou can do.
\nThis problem does not go away. <\/p>\n

461
\n00:29:42,040 –> 00:29:44,280
\nUnder the law, this problem is
\nenhanced. <\/p>\n

462
\n00:29:44,280 –> 00:29:47,560
\nBy the law, the law makes this
\nproblem front and center. <\/p>\n

463
\n00:29:47,560 –> 00:29:50,760
\nSo have to stare at it and look
\nat it and recognize that there <\/p>\n

464
\n00:29:50,760 –> 00:29:53,360
\nis no solution to this problem
\nunder the law. <\/p>\n

465
\n00:29:55,080 –> 00:29:58,080
\nThat’s the point of the law was
\nto get us to this point and then<\/p>\n

466
\n00:29:58,080 –> 00:30:00,880
\nit drops us.
\nThere’s nothing else that can do<\/p>\n

467
\n00:30:00,880 –> 00:30:05,240
\nfor us.
\nSo step. <\/p>\n

468
\n00:30:05,240 –> 00:30:10,660
\nOne then young people.
\nStep one is understand the <\/p>\n

469
\n00:30:10,660 –> 00:30:15,780
\nsource of the problem and Paul.
\nIn this chapter he points a <\/p>\n

470
\n00:30:15,780 –> 00:30:20,980
\nspotlight on human nature, the
\nmotions of sin if you, if you <\/p>\n

471
\n00:30:20,980 –> 00:30:25,580
\nwere the passions.
\nI put forward to you that you <\/p>\n

472
\n00:30:25,580 –> 00:30:27,500
\nmust.
\nUnderstand human nature if you <\/p>\n

473
\n00:30:27,500 –> 00:30:30,820
\nwant to do something about it,
\nso we’re going to really spend <\/p>\n

474
\n00:30:30,820 –> 00:30:34,700
\nsome time then young people, old
\npeople in between people. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:30:36,160 –> 00:30:37,840
\nWho considers themselves an in
\nbetween person? <\/p>\n

476
\n00:30:40,920 –> 00:30:42,120
\nI would.
\nConsider you all old. <\/p>\n

477
\n00:30:47,000 –> 00:30:50,160
\nSo we’re really going to spend
\nsome time to really look at <\/p>\n

478
\n00:30:50,160 –> 00:30:54,520
\nhuman nature.
\nSo what is human nature? <\/p>\n

479
\n00:30:57,400 –> 00:30:59,880
\nThat has a difficult question.
\nWhat is human nature? <\/p>\n

480
\n00:31:01,160 –> 00:31:04,600
\nAs Paul goes on to convey to us
\nin Chapter 7, Human Nature. <\/p>\n

481
\n00:31:06,080 –> 00:31:09,320
\nIs feelings and desires and
\nlusts and passions and <\/p>\n

482
\n00:31:09,320 –> 00:31:13,720
\ninfatuation and rage and envy as
\na lot of things acting on people<\/p>\n

483
\n00:31:13,840 –> 00:31:16,760
\nthat are hard to define but easy
\nto feel. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:31:17,360 –> 00:31:22,360
\nI mean, how do I define rage?
\nIt’s hard to define it, but I <\/p>\n

485
\n00:31:22,360 –> 00:31:23,360
\nknow what it feels.
\nLike. <\/p>\n

486
\n00:31:23,720 –> 00:31:25,080
\nAnd I bet you know what it feels
\nlike. <\/p>\n

487
\n00:31:26,280 –> 00:31:29,720
\nHow do you define envy?
\nWell, it’s hard to. <\/p>\n

488
\n00:31:29,720 –> 00:31:31,680
\nDefine, but I bet you know what
\nit feels like. <\/p>\n

489
\n00:31:34,280 –> 00:31:35,920
\nThis class we.
\nReally need to get a handle on <\/p>\n

490
\n00:31:35,920 –> 00:31:38,960
\nhuman nature and see how it
\ndraws out our basic sinfulness. <\/p>\n

491
\n00:31:40,240 –> 00:31:43,600
\nNow the fact that human nature
\nis friend center in this chapter<\/p>\n

492
\n00:31:43,600 –> 00:31:47,640
\nis evident by three verses.
\nThe one I just read about sinful<\/p>\n

493
\n00:31:47,960 –> 00:31:50,400
\npassions which are.
\nAroused by the law, that word <\/p>\n

494
\n00:31:50,400 –> 00:31:54,320
\naroused very feeling type word,
\nand Roman Steadman, Mercedes <\/p>\n

495
\n00:31:54,320 –> 00:31:56,600
\nsays.
\nBut sin taking opportunity by <\/p>\n

496
\n00:31:56,600 –> 00:32:00,800
\nthe commandment produced in me
\nall manner of evil desire. <\/p>\n

497
\n00:32:02,070 –> 00:32:05,910
\nRomans 7 verse 15 For what I
\nwill to do that I do not <\/p>\n

498
\n00:32:05,910 –> 00:32:08,230
\npractice, but what I hate that I
\ndo. <\/p>\n

499
\n00:32:08,470 –> 00:32:12,390
\nSo we have arousal, we have evil
\ndesire, we have hatred. <\/p>\n

500
\n00:32:13,030 –> 00:32:15,870
\nWith all these things in this
\nchapter and I I just put forward<\/p>\n

501
\n00:32:15,870 –> 00:32:18,550
\nto you that unless you get your
\nhead around this stuff, this <\/p>\n

502
\n00:32:18,550 –> 00:32:20,190
\nchapter is not going to make any
\nsense to you. <\/p>\n

503
\n00:32:21,070 –> 00:32:23,550
\nSo I put forward that the rest
\nof this class, we have to spend <\/p>\n

504
\n00:32:23,550 –> 00:32:26,270
\nsome time getting our head
\naround this and see what Jesus <\/p>\n

505
\n00:32:26,270 –> 00:32:28,990
\ndid about it.
\nAnd how what he did about <\/p>\n

506
\n00:32:28,990 –> 00:32:30,350
\ndeclared the righteousness of
\nGod? <\/p>\n

507
\n00:32:31,350 –> 00:32:33,350
\nIs that OK course to chart for
\nthe rest of this class? <\/p>\n

508
\n00:32:34,750 –> 00:32:38,950
\nDid anyone disagree?
\nAll right. <\/p>\n

509
\n00:32:42,110 –> 00:32:44,830
\nAll right, so first a.
\nPractical example. <\/p>\n

510
\n00:32:45,710 –> 00:32:48,870
\nThis example is going to require
\naudience participation. <\/p>\n

511
\n00:32:50,070 –> 00:32:52,750
\nSo I’m just giving you
\nforewarning, Steve, you’re <\/p>\n

512
\n00:32:52,750 –> 00:32:54,070
\nsmiling.
\nMaybe you can start your <\/p>\n

513
\n00:32:54,070 –> 00:32:55,070
\nAustralian.
\nVery bold. <\/p>\n

514
\n00:32:56,510 –> 00:33:02,830
\nGive me a characteristic that.
\nGive me a characteristic that <\/p>\n

515
\n00:33:02,830 –> 00:33:05,950
\nyou’d like to have.
\nA personal personality <\/p>\n

516
\n00:33:05,950 –> 00:33:17,270
\nCharacteristic A character.
\nGo I can. <\/p>\n

517
\n00:33:18,550 –> 00:33:22,950
\nGive me a personality
\ncharacteristic that you’d like <\/p>\n

518
\n00:33:22,950 –> 00:33:27,390
\nto have.
\nBoldness. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:33:27,750 –> 00:33:34,030
\nInteresting choice.
\nOK, give me some other examples <\/p>\n

520
\n00:33:34,030 –> 00:33:35,870
\nof personality characteristics
\nwe’d like to have. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:33:36,870 –> 00:33:37,790
\nPatience.
\nGood one. <\/p>\n

522
\n00:33:38,030 –> 00:33:39,990
\nWhat’s another one?
\nLove. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:33:39,990 –> 00:33:41,750
\nGood one.
\nWhat’s another one? <\/p>\n

524
\n00:33:44,430 –> 00:33:46,550
\nNot tolerance.
\nWhat’s another one? <\/p>\n

525
\n00:33:48,470 –> 00:33:50,310
\nlong-suffering.
\nThat’s probably kind of what you<\/p>\n

526
\n00:33:50,310 –> 00:33:51,430
\nmeant.
\nYep. <\/p>\n

527
\n00:33:51,550 –> 00:33:55,110
\nWhat’s another one?
\nHumbleness. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:33:55,110 –> 00:33:58,390
\nGood.
\nUnderstanding. <\/p>\n

529
\n00:33:58,390 –> 00:34:01,000
\nGood.
\nFaithfulness. <\/p>\n

530
\n00:34:01,040 –> 00:34:05,480
\nExcellent.
\nAnymore, we have love, we’ve had<\/p>\n

531
\n00:34:05,640 –> 00:34:09,960
\npatience, we’ve had
\nfaithfulness. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:34:10,719 –> 00:34:12,600
\nJoy.
\nGood, Excellent. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:34:14,120 –> 00:34:20,760
\nWhat’s this?
\nKindness good. self-control. <\/p>\n

534
\n00:34:21,080 –> 00:34:22,600
\nWe’re really getting some of the
\nfruits of the spirit. <\/p>\n

535
\n00:34:22,600 –> 00:34:28,040
\nHere, aren’t we that was oops,
\nthat was my bad list. <\/p>\n

536
\n00:34:28,449 –> 00:34:32,130
\nSo that the good list had had
\nlove and joy and peace, I said. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:34:32,130 –> 00:34:34,570
\nAnd patience and kindness and
\ngoodness and faithfulness. <\/p>\n

538
\n00:34:35,130 –> 00:34:40,330
\nSelfcontrol.
\nNow who here does not want to <\/p>\n

539
\n00:34:40,330 –> 00:34:42,370
\nhave those kind of personality
\ncharacteristics? <\/p>\n

540
\n00:34:44,449 –> 00:34:46,690
\nLove, joy.
\nPeace, gentleness. <\/p>\n

541
\n00:34:46,690 –> 00:34:50,130
\nKindness, Selfcontrol, patients.
\nWho here doesn’t want those <\/p>\n

542
\n00:34:50,130 –> 00:34:54,290
\nthings?
\nSo can I Can I assume by the <\/p>\n

543
\n00:34:54,330 –> 00:34:57,810
\ncomplete lack of hands that we’d
\nall like those things? <\/p>\n

544
\n00:34:58,600 –> 00:35:03,520
\nCan I assume that nod of heads?
\nOK, all right, now what are some<\/p>\n

545
\n00:35:03,520 –> 00:35:06,520
\nof the characteristics?
\nWe don’t want to have some bad <\/p>\n

546
\n00:35:06,520 –> 00:35:07,920
\ncharacteristics now.
\nYep. <\/p>\n

547
\n00:35:08,640 –> 00:35:09,640
\nHatred good.
\nOne. <\/p>\n

548
\n00:35:10,640 –> 00:35:11,560
\nJealousy good.
\nOne. <\/p>\n

549
\n00:35:12,760 –> 00:35:17,800
\nLust excellent.
\nEnvy good. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:35:19,120 –> 00:35:22,960
\nAnger good.
\nWell, this is this is my. <\/p>\n

551
\n00:35:22,960 –> 00:35:25,760
\nList.
\nI think you got most of those <\/p>\n

552
\n00:35:25,760 –> 00:35:29,170
\nactually.
\nAnger, jealousy, lust, envy, <\/p>\n

553
\n00:35:29,170 –> 00:35:31,770
\nhatred, and bitterness.
\nOkay. <\/p>\n

554
\n00:35:32,170 –> 00:35:35,010
\nSo who by show of hands would
\nreally? <\/p>\n

555
\n00:35:35,010 –> 00:35:37,290
\nLike to have some of those
\npersonality characteristics? <\/p>\n

556
\n00:35:39,970 –> 00:35:42,090
\nAnybody.
\nAnyone. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:35:44,010 –> 00:35:48,650
\nSo we’ve all said we want this
\nlist of Lovejoy, peace, <\/p>\n

558
\n00:35:48,650 –> 00:35:52,450
\npatience, kindness, goodness,
\nfaithfulness, self-control. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:35:52,870 –> 00:35:56,230
\nWe’ve all agreed we want those.
\nNow just this by this. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:35:56,230 –> 00:35:58,790
\nSo I know this is just not a
\nlack of participation exercise. <\/p>\n

561
\n00:35:59,310 –> 00:36:00,870
\nRaise your hand if you want the
\ngood. <\/p>\n

562
\n00:36:00,870 –> 00:36:07,510
\nCharacteristics Anyone not
\nraising their hands. <\/p>\n

563
\n00:36:07,550 –> 00:36:09,310
\nGood.
\nAll right. <\/p>\n

564
\n00:36:09,830 –> 00:36:13,070
\nNow raise your hand if you do
\nnot want to have the bad <\/p>\n

565
\n00:36:13,070 –> 00:36:17,990
\ncharacteristics.
\nDesmond, very good, thank you. <\/p>\n

566
\n00:36:20,110 –> 00:36:23,220
\nSo.
\nWe’ve all been agreed. <\/p>\n

567
\n00:36:23,220 –> 00:36:25,900
\nI guess this is settled then.
\nI’m glad we’ve had this <\/p>\n

568
\n00:36:25,900 –> 00:36:27,780
\nexercise.
\nYou’ve all told me that you’re <\/p>\n

569
\n00:36:27,780 –> 00:36:29,380
\nonly going to have the good
\nelements of character. <\/p>\n

570
\n00:36:29,380 –> 00:36:30,460
\nYou’re not going to have the
\nbad. <\/p>\n

571
\n00:36:30,460 –> 00:36:33,900
\nElements of character.
\nSo I guess we’re done, right? <\/p>\n

572
\n00:36:33,900 –> 00:36:36,380
\nWe’ve all decided, you know.
\nYou’ve told me. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:36:36,860 –> 00:36:38,140
\nYou told me.
\nYou want to have the good list. <\/p>\n

574
\n00:36:38,140 –> 00:36:43,620
\nYou don’t have the bad list.
\nIt couldn’t be good. <\/p>\n

575
\n00:36:43,860 –> 00:36:45,820
\nIn the in the hands of someone
\nwho’s righteous. <\/p>\n

576
\n00:36:46,220 –> 00:36:49,140
\nBut I would say that for the
\nmost part, anger our anger, <\/p>\n

577
\n00:36:49,260 –> 00:36:51,140
\nanger that comes from our
\nnature’s. <\/p>\n

578
\n00:36:51,720 –> 00:36:53,320
\nProbably not.
\nGood anger that comes from the <\/p>\n

579
\n00:36:53,320 –> 00:37:00,480
\ndesire to God’s will might be.
\nSo if we want to have the good <\/p>\n

580
\n00:37:00,480 –> 00:37:02,680
\nelements of character, we don’t
\nwant to have the bad elements of<\/p>\n

581
\n00:37:02,680 –> 00:37:04,040
\ncharacter.
\nYou’ve all agreed as much, and <\/p>\n

582
\n00:37:04,040 –> 00:37:05,840
\nyou’ve raised your hands and
\nyou’ve volunteered and you’ve <\/p>\n

583
\n00:37:06,000 –> 00:37:10,920
\nyou’ve been accountable.
\nYou think it’s going to work, <\/p>\n

584
\n00:37:13,360 –> 00:37:14,880
\nthink it’s going to work.
\nYou’re just not going to do any <\/p>\n

585
\n00:37:14,880 –> 00:37:16,640
\nof the bad stuff now.
\nYou’re only going to do the good<\/p>\n

586
\n00:37:16,640 –> 00:37:18,640
\nstuff.
\nThink it’s going to work. <\/p>\n

587
\n00:37:21,350 –> 00:37:24,670
\nWhy not?
\nWhy isn’t it going to work? <\/p>\n

588
\n00:37:24,670 –> 00:37:26,550
\nYou just told me you want to
\nhave the good characteristics. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:37:26,550 –> 00:37:30,470
\nYou want to ditch the bad.
\nSo my question to you is what’s <\/p>\n

590
\n00:37:30,470 –> 00:37:36,270
\nstopping you?
\nThat’s it, isn’t it? <\/p>\n

591
\n00:37:37,590 –> 00:37:41,150
\nWhat’s stopping you?
\nWhat’s stopping you from doing <\/p>\n

592
\n00:37:41,150 –> 00:37:46,510
\ngood all the time?
\nYou know, we need to get a <\/p>\n

593
\n00:37:46,510 –> 00:37:48,190
\nhandle on that.
\nDo you see? <\/p>\n

594
\n00:37:48,190 –> 00:37:50,870
\nThat we can’t do the things we
\nwant to do. <\/p>\n

595
\n00:37:51,900 –> 00:37:54,180
\nThe things that we don’t want to
\ndo, we do. <\/p>\n

596
\n00:37:55,220 –> 00:37:59,220
\nNow what’s a word?
\nThe Bible has lots of words for <\/p>\n

597
\n00:37:59,220 –> 00:38:04,060
\nthis, for this idea, this
\nconcept of of of not being able <\/p>\n

598
\n00:38:04,060 –> 00:38:07,620
\nto do what we want to do and and
\ndoing what we don’t want to do. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:38:08,500 –> 00:38:11,420
\nThe Bible calls it sinful
\nnature, and it calls it the <\/p>\n

600
\n00:38:11,420 –> 00:38:13,340
\nflesh, and it calls it human
\nnature. <\/p>\n

601
\n00:38:14,900 –> 00:38:18,460
\nIt calls it just sin.
\nBut there’s one word that’s <\/p>\n

602
\n00:38:18,460 –> 00:38:22,580
\nreally predominant.
\nEspecially in the King, New King<\/p>\n

603
\n00:38:22,580 –> 00:38:26,460
\nJames, the RSV.
\nThe N IV and the ESV describe <\/p>\n

604
\n00:38:27,460 –> 00:38:30,900
\nthis this idea.
\nThat you not doing what you want<\/p>\n

605
\n00:38:30,900 –> 00:38:33,500
\nto do, but you are doing what
\nyou don’t want to do. <\/p>\n

606
\n00:38:35,580 –> 00:38:42,860
\nAnd that word you can’t really
\nread, but that word is passions <\/p>\n

607
\n00:38:44,580 –> 00:38:47,050
\nnow.
\nWe generally think of passions <\/p>\n

608
\n00:38:47,050 –> 00:38:49,010
\nas being a good thing, doesn’t
\ndoesn’t we? <\/p>\n

609
\n00:38:49,050 –> 00:38:52,450
\nI mean, in society today, if you
\njust read about this word <\/p>\n

610
\n00:38:52,450 –> 00:38:56,250
\npassion, it’s almost always used
\nin the positive sense you should<\/p>\n

611
\n00:38:56,250 –> 00:38:57,970
\ngo.
\nFor your passions and strive for<\/p>\n

612
\n00:38:57,970 –> 00:39:01,530
\nyour passion and passion is
\nreally this idea of feeling <\/p>\n

613
\n00:39:01,530 –> 00:39:03,290
\nsomething quite strongly, isn’t
\nit? <\/p>\n

614
\n00:39:04,370 –> 00:39:07,690
\nFeeling something quite strongly
\nand whatever you’re feeling <\/p>\n

615
\n00:39:08,370 –> 00:39:10,730
\ntrying to achieve.
\nWhatever it is you’re feeling <\/p>\n

616
\n00:39:12,650 –> 00:39:14,570
\nnow.
\nHow do you think the Bible’s <\/p>\n

617
\n00:39:14,570 –> 00:39:18,770
\ngoing to think about that kind
\nof word, the idea that I feel <\/p>\n

618
\n00:39:18,770 –> 00:39:22,890
\nsomething from my nature,
\nwhatever it is, of strong <\/p>\n

619
\n00:39:22,890 –> 00:39:26,890
\ndesire, and I’m going to go and
\nstrive after achieving that <\/p>\n

620
\n00:39:26,890 –> 00:39:31,450
\nthing?
\nYou know, there’s a lot of <\/p>\n

621
\n00:39:31,450 –> 00:39:33,290
\nreferences in scripture to
\npassions. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:39:34,650 –> 00:39:37,850
\nSome of them are appearing right
\nnow on the screen. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:39:39,570 –> 00:39:42,450
\nThose are all references to
\npassions. <\/p>\n

624
\n00:39:43,300 –> 00:39:45,980
\nI’d like to read some of these
\nreferences now. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:39:46,380 –> 00:39:49,060
\nDon’t look them up, just pay
\nattention to me and I’m not. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:39:49,060 –> 00:39:51,020
\nJust going to reach you one.
\nI’m going to read you. <\/p>\n

627
\n00:39:51,020 –> 00:39:53,580
\nNot all of them, but several,
\nbecause I don’t. <\/p>\n

628
\n00:39:53,580 –> 00:39:56,100
\nI want to get the sense that I’m
\nnot just cherry picking versus <\/p>\n

629
\n00:39:56,100 –> 00:39:58,940
\nhere.
\nAll right, So pay attention to <\/p>\n

630
\n00:39:58,940 –> 00:40:00,780
\nme.
\nListen for the word passions. <\/p>\n

631
\n00:40:01,420 –> 00:40:04,340
\nFor this reason, God gave them
\nup to dishonorable passions <\/p>\n

632
\n00:40:05,300 –> 00:40:07,580
\nthrough women Exchanged natural
\nrelations for unnatural. <\/p>\n

633
\n00:40:07,580 –> 00:40:09,970
\nRomans 612.
\nBut not sin. <\/p>\n

634
\n00:40:09,970 –> 00:40:13,010
\nTherefore reign in your mortal
\nbodies to make you obey their <\/p>\n

635
\n00:40:13,010 –> 00:40:15,210
\npassions.
\nRoman 7, verse 5. <\/p>\n

636
\n00:40:15,490 –> 00:40:18,210
\nFor while we are.
\nLiving in the flesh our sinful <\/p>\n

637
\n00:40:18,210 –> 00:40:20,690
\npassions.
\nAroused by the law we’re. <\/p>\n

638
\n00:40:20,690 –> 00:40:22,530
\nWorking our members to bear
\nfruit for death. <\/p>\n

639
\n00:40:23,050 –> 00:40:28,290
\nRelations 524 Those who belong
\nto Christ Jesus have crucified <\/p>\n

640
\n00:40:28,290 –> 00:40:31,490
\nthe flesh with its passions and
\nits desires. <\/p>\n

641
\n00:40:31,930 –> 00:40:34,970
\nEphesians 2 Verse three Among
\nthese who all. <\/p>\n

642
\n00:40:34,970 –> 00:40:37,090
\nOnce lived in the passions of
\nour flesh. <\/p>\n

643
\n00:40:37,500 –> 00:40:41,620
\nFollowing the desires of body
\nand mind, and so were by nature <\/p>\n

644
\n00:40:41,620 –> 00:40:43,860
\nchildren of wrath, like the rest
\nof mankind. <\/p>\n

645
\n00:40:44,580 –> 00:40:49,180
\nTitus 3, verse 3.
\nFor we ourselves were once <\/p>\n

646
\n00:40:49,180 –> 00:40:51,820
\nfoolish, disobedient, led
\nastray, slaves to various <\/p>\n

647
\n00:40:51,820 –> 00:40:55,620
\npassions and pleasures, passing
\nour days in the mouths and envy,<\/p>\n

648
\n00:40:55,620 –> 00:40:59,980
\nhated by men hating one another.
\nJames 4 verse one What? <\/p>\n

649
\n00:40:59,980 –> 00:41:03,060
\nCauses wars.
\nWhat causes fightings among you?<\/p>\n

650
\n00:41:03,580 –> 00:41:06,420
\nIs it not your passions at war
\nand your members? <\/p>\n

651
\n00:41:07,090 –> 00:41:09,090
\nVerse Peter 2 verse 11.
\nBut well. <\/p>\n

652
\n00:41:09,170 –> 00:41:11,970
\nI beseech you as aliens in
\nexiles, to abstain from the <\/p>\n

653
\n00:41:11,970 –> 00:41:15,170
\npassions of the flesh that wage
\nwar against your soul. <\/p>\n

654
\n00:41:15,610 –> 00:41:19,210
\nSecond Peter 3, verse 3.
\nFor all you must understand that<\/p>\n

655
\n00:41:19,210 –> 00:41:23,290
\nscoffers have come in the last
\nday, scoffing and following <\/p>\n

656
\n00:41:23,290 –> 00:41:27,450
\ntheir passions, you get some
\nidea of what passions are <\/p>\n

657
\n00:41:27,450 –> 00:41:28,930
\ntalking about.
\nDo I just cherry pick a <\/p>\n

658
\n00:41:28,930 –> 00:41:30,770
\nreference with this idea of
\npassions? <\/p>\n

659
\n00:41:32,290 –> 00:41:35,170
\nAll of these verses talk about
\npassions in the negative. <\/p>\n

660
\n00:41:37,380 –> 00:41:39,140
\nWhat’s society talk you about?
\nPassions. <\/p>\n

661
\n00:41:40,260 –> 00:41:41,700
\nIt’s a really good way to make
\nmoney off you. <\/p>\n

662
\n00:41:41,700 –> 00:41:46,380
\nBy the way, follow your passion.
\nBuy my product. <\/p>\n

663
\n00:41:46,580 –> 00:41:51,740
\nIt will really help.
\nThe source of happiness is <\/p>\n

664
\n00:41:51,740 –> 00:41:55,060
\nfollowing your passions.
\nBut what are passions? <\/p>\n

665
\n00:41:55,060 –> 00:42:01,740
\nAccording to scripture, they’re
\nungodly tendencies, their sexual<\/p>\n

666
\n00:42:01,740 –> 00:42:04,300
\ndesires.
\nTheir desires for things they’re<\/p>\n

667
\n00:42:04,300 –> 00:42:07,540
\nassociated with, drunkenness and
\nlawlessness and carousing, the <\/p>\n

668
\n00:42:07,540 –> 00:42:09,460
\nthings that cause fights and
\nwars. <\/p>\n

669
\n00:42:09,780 –> 00:42:12,940
\nThey’re closely associated with
\nhate and wrath, associated with <\/p>\n

670
\n00:42:12,940 –> 00:42:16,140
\nthe desires of our body,
\nespecially connected with youth,<\/p>\n

671
\n00:42:16,140 –> 00:42:18,860
\nopposed to righteousness and
\nfaith and love and peace. <\/p>\n

672
\n00:42:21,980 –> 00:42:24,500
\nYou know, if you look at some of
\nthe adjectives that God adds <\/p>\n

673
\n00:42:24,500 –> 00:42:27,340
\nimmediately before the Word
\npassions, you’ll find a list <\/p>\n

674
\n00:42:27,340 –> 00:42:31,260
\nthat includes ungodly,
\nvicentious, human, dishonorable,<\/p>\n

675
\n00:42:31,380 –> 00:42:34,030
\nsinful.
\nWorldly youthful. <\/p>\n

676
\n00:42:36,070 –> 00:42:38,030
\nAre we getting a sense of what
\nthese passions are? <\/p>\n

677
\n00:42:40,630 –> 00:42:42,790
\nIf you feel it, does it make it
\nright? <\/p>\n

678
\n00:42:45,390 –> 00:42:47,430
\nThat’s the question.
\nThat’s the question on the <\/p>\n

679
\n00:42:47,430 –> 00:42:49,630
\ntable.
\nIf you feel it, does it make it <\/p>\n

680
\n00:42:49,630 –> 00:42:52,350
\nright?
\nDoes it make it right with? <\/p>\n

681
\n00:42:52,350 –> 00:42:57,070
\nGod if I’ve seen people in the
\ntruth that have a passion for <\/p>\n

682
\n00:42:57,070 –> 00:43:00,350
\nsome element of the truth,
\nright, and have steamrolled <\/p>\n

683
\n00:43:00,350 –> 00:43:02,070
\ntheir brothers and sisters in
\nthe process. <\/p>\n

684
\n00:43:02,950 –> 00:43:06,750
\nDid that make that right?
\nEven if it’s a passion for <\/p>\n

685
\n00:43:06,750 –> 00:43:11,230
\nsomething in the truth?
\nWas that a careful consideration<\/p>\n

686
\n00:43:11,230 –> 00:43:14,910
\nof Scripture?
\nJames tells us that those who <\/p>\n

687
\n00:43:14,910 –> 00:43:17,390
\nare in the Spirit are easy to be
\nentreated. <\/p>\n

688
\n00:43:24,930 –> 00:43:29,250
\nLet’s try to find some places or
\ntimes that our passions are <\/p>\n

689
\n00:43:29,250 –> 00:43:32,130
\ninflamed.
\nI’ll include an example. <\/p>\n

690
\n00:43:32,810 –> 00:43:36,830
\nI feel passions the most.
\nDuring four different Things, <\/p>\n

691
\n00:43:36,830 –> 00:43:38,270
\nwhen four different things are
\nhappening to me. <\/p>\n

692
\n00:43:38,790 –> 00:43:45,070
\nOne I’m hungry, I’m angry, I’m
\nlonely, or I’m. <\/p>\n

693
\n00:43:45,070 –> 00:43:47,190
\nTired.
\nI call that halt. <\/p>\n

694
\n00:43:47,190 –> 00:44:02,580
\nIt’s right down the board.
\nI’m hungry when I’m angry, when <\/p>\n

695
\n00:44:02,580 –> 00:44:06,900
\nI’m lonely, and when I’m tired.
\nI really feel my passions. <\/p>\n

696
\n00:44:06,900 –> 00:44:13,420
\nThen there’s other times we want
\nto do something we shouldn’t or <\/p>\n

697
\n00:44:13,420 –> 00:44:18,420
\ntake something that isn’t ours.
\nWhen others are hurting us, we <\/p>\n

698
\n00:44:18,420 –> 00:44:21,460
\nwant to get back at them.
\nWe feel a lot of resentment. <\/p>\n

699
\n00:44:23,900 –> 00:44:27,220
\nWhen we feel that we’re empty or
\nworthless, we feel a lot of <\/p>\n

700
\n00:44:27,220 –> 00:44:30,380
\npassion.
\nAnd we can’t handle life or <\/p>\n

701
\n00:44:30,380 –> 00:44:34,460
\nstress.
\nNo, passion isn’t in itself <\/p>\n

702
\n00:44:34,460 –> 00:44:38,060
\nwrong.
\nIt’s simply the body’s way of <\/p>\n

703
\n00:44:38,060 –> 00:44:40,540
\nasserting self and getting what
\nit wants. <\/p>\n

704
\n00:44:42,060 –> 00:44:43,820
\nAnd how does the body get what
\nit wants? <\/p>\n

705
\n00:44:44,340 –> 00:44:48,020
\nIt makes you feel something and
\nyou feel compelled to do it. <\/p>\n

706
\n00:44:50,900 –> 00:44:52,380
\nIt’s very simple process, isn’t
\nit? <\/p>\n

707
\n00:44:53,180 –> 00:44:54,940
\nIt’s the body’s way of getting
\nwhat it wants. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:44:54,940 –> 00:44:56,940
\nAnd in and of itself, that may
\nnot be wrong. <\/p>\n

709
\n00:44:56,940 –> 00:45:01,760
\nIt can’t be wrong.
\nBut certainly the acting on it, <\/p>\n

710
\n00:45:02,000 –> 00:45:04,720
\nin contrast, the principles of
\nGod is wrong. <\/p>\n

711
\n00:45:08,000 –> 00:45:09,840
\nDo we all?
\nAgree that maybe these passions <\/p>\n

712
\n00:45:09,840 –> 00:45:12,360
\nhave something to do with
\nwilling to do right, but not <\/p>\n

713
\n00:45:12,360 –> 00:45:15,960
\nwilling not being able to do it.
\nMaybe passions have something to<\/p>\n

714
\n00:45:15,960 –> 00:45:19,680
\ndo with that concept.
\nNow picking up in Romans, we <\/p>\n

715
\n00:45:19,680 –> 00:45:21,440
\nread in Romans 7 versus 7 and
\neight. <\/p>\n

716
\n00:45:23,040 –> 00:45:25,680
\nWhat shall we say then?
\nIs the law sin? <\/p>\n

717
\n00:45:26,160 –> 00:45:28,880
\nCertainly not.
\nOn the contrary, I would not <\/p>\n

718
\n00:45:28,880 –> 00:45:30,560
\nhave known sin except.
\nThrough the law. <\/p>\n

719
\n00:45:30,560 –> 00:45:33,240
\nWe get that concept now, right?
\nThat’s all clear for us, right? <\/p>\n

720
\n00:45:34,560 –> 00:45:36,240
\nFor I.
\nWould not have known <\/p>\n

721
\n00:45:36,240 –> 00:45:39,680
\ncovetousness.
\nLest the law had said, you shall<\/p>\n

722
\n00:45:39,680 –> 00:45:43,360
\nnot covet but sin, taking
\nopportunity by the commandment <\/p>\n

723
\n00:45:44,000 –> 00:45:47,520
\nproduced in me all manner of
\ncovetousness or evil desire. <\/p>\n

724
\n00:45:48,200 –> 00:45:50,720
\nSo Paula sign is still
\naddressing this issue of shall <\/p>\n

725
\n00:45:50,720 –> 00:45:53,600
\nwe sin that grace may aband now
\nshall we sin? <\/p>\n

726
\n00:45:54,880 –> 00:45:58,780
\nKind of interesting question.
\nAnd almost implies. <\/p>\n

727
\n00:45:58,780 –> 00:46:03,580
\nYou’re sitting back and
\nthinking, hey, what am I going <\/p>\n

728
\n00:46:03,580 –> 00:46:07,100
\nto do today?
\nYeah, maybe I’ll sin. <\/p>\n

729
\n00:46:07,100 –> 00:46:09,900
\nYeah, that’d be good.
\nLet’s see that that that way <\/p>\n

730
\n00:46:09,900 –> 00:46:11,780
\nthey’ll be lots of grace.
\nThat’s even better. <\/p>\n

731
\n00:46:12,500 –> 00:46:15,020
\nNow let’s see, how should I sin?
\nJohnners, do you have any <\/p>\n

732
\n00:46:15,020 –> 00:46:20,020
\nsuggestions?
\nOK, that that’d work good. <\/p>\n

733
\n00:46:20,300 –> 00:46:21,540
\nYou know, I think that’s we
\nshould do. <\/p>\n

734
\n00:46:21,540 –> 00:46:23,100
\nI think that’d be a good
\nactivity for today. <\/p>\n

735
\n00:46:23,100 –> 00:46:26,070
\nLet’s just sin.
\nYou know, the question implies <\/p>\n

736
\n00:46:26,150 –> 00:46:28,550
\nshall we sin?
\nThat grace may abound and <\/p>\n

737
\n00:46:28,550 –> 00:46:31,110
\nimplies that there’s like this
\nconscious decision to sin. <\/p>\n

738
\n00:46:32,430 –> 00:46:36,750
\nWas that how it typically works?
\nI mean, perhaps your son, but <\/p>\n

739
\n00:46:36,750 –> 00:46:40,350
\nwhat about for the believer?
\nAnd since Paul is a believer, he<\/p>\n

740
\n00:46:40,350 –> 00:46:42,750
\nkind of draws in his personal
\nexperience to show how sin <\/p>\n

741
\n00:46:42,750 –> 00:46:45,430
\nreally works.
\nAnd the best way to illustrate <\/p>\n

742
\n00:46:45,430 –> 00:46:47,590
\nhow sin really works is to use
\nCove justness. <\/p>\n

743
\n00:46:48,710 –> 00:46:52,030
\nNow what makes covetousness so?
\nSpecial Now think about it for a<\/p>\n

744
\n00:46:52,030 –> 00:46:54,990
\nsecond.
\nWhat makes covetousness <\/p>\n

745
\n00:46:54,990 –> 00:46:56,870
\ndifferent than the rest of the
\n10 commandments? <\/p>\n

746
\n00:46:59,030 –> 00:47:00,350
\nI mean names of those
\ncommandments. <\/p>\n

747
\n00:47:00,350 –> 00:47:03,350
\nThou shalt not steal, Thou shall
\nnot murder. <\/p>\n

748
\n00:47:04,190 –> 00:47:06,150
\nThou shalt not bear false
\nwitness. <\/p>\n

749
\n00:47:06,630 –> 00:47:09,470
\nThou shalt not take the name of
\nthe Lord thy God in vain do. <\/p>\n

750
\n00:47:10,310 –> 00:47:13,030
\nYou see any differences between
\nthis list and covetousness? <\/p>\n

751
\n00:47:14,990 –> 00:47:17,430
\nWhat do you think is the most
\nobvious difference between the <\/p>\n

752
\n00:47:17,430 –> 00:47:20,630
\nlist of those other commandments
\nand covetousness? <\/p>\n

753
\n00:47:24,500 –> 00:47:27,020
\nThat’s exactly right.
\nSharon Gold stars for you. <\/p>\n

754
\n00:47:28,620 –> 00:47:30,340
\nYou know the other list is all
\nyou can. <\/p>\n

755
\n00:47:30,340 –> 00:47:35,020
\nAll It’s all external physical
\nacts right at stealing or. <\/p>\n

756
\n00:47:35,020 –> 00:47:38,420
\nAdultery or murder?
\nOr other or or bearing false <\/p>\n

757
\n00:47:38,420 –> 00:47:40,060
\nwitness.
\nThey’re all these external <\/p>\n

758
\n00:47:40,060 –> 00:47:46,260
\nphysical acts.
\nYou know, we most often think of<\/p>\n

759
\n00:47:46,260 –> 00:47:49,300
\nsin in terms of external
\nphysical acts. <\/p>\n

760
\n00:47:50,050 –> 00:47:51,330
\nThe reason?
\nProbably because we’re growing <\/p>\n

761
\n00:47:51,330 –> 00:47:53,930
\nup when we’re when we’re young,
\nexcuse me, that’s what we’re <\/p>\n

762
\n00:47:53,930 –> 00:47:56,210
\npunished for.
\nWe’re punished when we hit our <\/p>\n

763
\n00:47:56,210 –> 00:48:00,770
\nsister, I was we’re punished.
\nWhen we won’t share our toys, <\/p>\n

764
\n00:48:01,170 –> 00:48:02,690
\nwe’re punished.
\nWhen we talk back to our <\/p>\n

765
\n00:48:02,690 –> 00:48:07,170
\nparents, see rights and wrongs,
\nthey’re reinforced by these <\/p>\n

766
\n00:48:07,170 –> 00:48:11,210
\nexternal physical acts.
\nBut what’s flawed about that? <\/p>\n

767
\n00:48:11,210 –> 00:48:14,610
\nYou mean where does sin start?
\nWhere does sin originate? <\/p>\n

768
\n00:48:15,650 –> 00:48:18,330
\nAnd so Paul says that when the
\nlaw told him. <\/p>\n

769
\n00:48:18,730 –> 00:48:23,650
\nYou shall not covet.
\nIt wasn’t about not doing <\/p>\n

770
\n00:48:23,650 –> 00:48:27,410
\nsomething anymore.
\nIt was all in here. <\/p>\n

771
\n00:48:29,810 –> 00:48:35,650
\nAnd it killed him because he
\nrealized that this rebelled <\/p>\n

772
\n00:48:35,810 –> 00:48:39,370
\nagainst God.
\nThis rebelled against God. <\/p>\n

773
\n00:48:39,690 –> 00:48:42,250
\nAnd it wasn’t a matter of not
\ndoing something anymore. <\/p>\n

774
\n00:48:43,650 –> 00:48:45,890
\nIt was a matter of wanting to be
\nlike chameleon. <\/p>\n

775
\n00:48:47,570 –> 00:48:51,330
\nCoveting what he had, and the
\nprestige of other rabbis, and <\/p>\n

776
\n00:48:51,330 –> 00:48:54,690
\nthe prestige of other important
\npeople in this class, and the <\/p>\n

777
\n00:48:54,690 –> 00:49:04,330
\nesteem of others.
\nRomans 7, verse 15 through 17 <\/p>\n

778
\n00:49:04,730 –> 00:49:07,250
\nfor what I am doing I don’t
\nunderstand. <\/p>\n

779
\n00:49:08,330 –> 00:49:10,730
\nFor what I will to do that I do
\nnot? <\/p>\n

780
\n00:49:10,730 –> 00:49:13,530
\nPractice.
\nBut what I hate that I do if <\/p>\n

781
\n00:49:13,530 –> 00:49:16,370
\nthen I do what I will not do, I
\nagree. <\/p>\n

782
\n00:49:16,740 –> 00:49:26,220
\nWith the law that it’s good
\ncatch that if I will not to do. <\/p>\n

783
\n00:49:29,060 –> 00:49:31,380
\nIf I excuse me if I.
\nDo what I will. <\/p>\n

784
\n00:49:31,380 –> 00:49:32,820
\nNot to do I agree with the law
\nis good. <\/p>\n

785
\n00:49:32,820 –> 00:49:34,180
\nSo this Paul proves the law is
\ngood. <\/p>\n

786
\n00:49:34,180 –> 00:49:35,540
\nDo you know how he proves the
\nlaw is good? <\/p>\n

787
\n00:49:35,700 –> 00:49:37,380
\nHe says.
\nBecause I wanted to follow it. <\/p>\n

788
\n00:49:39,100 –> 00:49:43,060
\nAnd it because I wanted to
\nfollow it, I then admit. <\/p>\n

789
\n00:49:43,180 –> 00:49:47,850
\nThat it’s good.
\nAnd then if I don’t do it, even <\/p>\n

790
\n00:49:47,850 –> 00:49:50,250
\nthough I wanted to do it, it
\nmust be me. <\/p>\n

791
\n00:49:50,450 –> 00:49:54,250
\nThat’s the problem, not the law.
\nAnd so he concludes. <\/p>\n

792
\n00:49:54,490 –> 00:49:57,970
\nThat he’s the problem.
\nThe law is not the problem. <\/p>\n

793
\n00:49:58,050 –> 00:50:00,570
\nWhy is he the problem?
\nBecause he wanted to follow the <\/p>\n

794
\n00:50:00,570 –> 00:50:02,370
\nlaw, so the law must have been
\ngood. <\/p>\n

795
\n00:50:03,290 –> 00:50:06,970
\nAnd because he didn’t follow the
\nlaw, that makes him the Sinner, <\/p>\n

796
\n00:50:07,650 –> 00:50:12,410
\nnot the law.
\nSo how could Paul of all people <\/p>\n

797
\n00:50:12,410 –> 00:50:16,710
\nsay?
\nHow can you not be good? <\/p>\n

798
\n00:50:19,230 –> 00:50:21,470
\nRemember when I asked you?
\nWhat’s stopping you? <\/p>\n

799
\n00:50:23,550 –> 00:50:27,390
\nYou all said that you wanted to
\ndo good, but that something is <\/p>\n

800
\n00:50:27,390 –> 00:50:37,870
\ngetting in your way.
\nHere we go. <\/p>\n

801
\n00:50:44,850 –> 00:50:47,890
\nRemember you said.
\nThat you wanted to do good but <\/p>\n

802
\n00:50:47,890 –> 00:50:49,090
\nsomething was getting in your
\nway. <\/p>\n

803
\n00:50:49,770 –> 00:50:54,250
\nAnd Paul seizes on that natural
\nconflict in him and he he he <\/p>\n

804
\n00:50:54,250 –> 00:50:58,530
\ncalls the part that wants to do
\ngood I and the part that doesn’t<\/p>\n

805
\n00:50:58,530 –> 00:51:04,090
\nwant to do good sin and that sin
\ndwells in Paul properly <\/p>\n

806
\n00:51:04,090 –> 00:51:07,490
\nunderstood by the way these are
\nthese verses destroy this idea <\/p>\n

807
\n00:51:07,490 –> 00:51:10,730
\nof a personal devil.
\nBut I digress. <\/p>\n

808
\n00:51:12,090 –> 00:51:14,450
\nBut you might want to mark that
\nin your mind that your Bible for<\/p>\n

809
\n00:51:14,450 –> 00:51:17,450
\nBible Mark and he says in in
\nchapter 18. <\/p>\n

810
\n00:51:17,770 –> 00:51:21,330
\nExcuse me verse 18 of Chapter 7.
\nFor I know the in me that is in <\/p>\n

811
\n00:51:21,330 –> 00:51:25,370
\nmy flesh nothing good dwells for
\nto will is present with me. <\/p>\n

812
\n00:51:25,370 –> 00:51:30,050
\nBut how to perform what is good
\nI don’t find for the good that I<\/p>\n

813
\n00:51:30,050 –> 00:51:33,890
\nwill to do I do not do, but the
\nevil that I do that I will not <\/p>\n

814
\n00:51:33,890 –> 00:51:37,730
\nto do, that I practice now if I
\ndo. <\/p>\n

815
\n00:51:38,090 –> 00:51:40,770
\nWhat I will not to do is no
\nlonger I who do it sin. <\/p>\n

816
\n00:51:40,770 –> 00:51:43,730
\nIt dwells in me.
\nAnd these words can be a little <\/p>\n

817
\n00:51:43,730 –> 00:51:45,170
\nbit.
\nDifficult to understand, aren’t <\/p>\n

818
\n00:51:45,170 –> 00:51:46,250
\nthey?
\nYou kind of read them and <\/p>\n

819
\n00:51:46,250 –> 00:51:47,850
\nthey’re a little bit difficult
\nto understand. <\/p>\n

820
\n00:51:48,530 –> 00:51:51,570
\nBut if you ever get stuck in
\nRomans, I think you ought to <\/p>\n

821
\n00:51:51,570 –> 00:51:55,730
\nremember this, that that
\nGalatians is like an abridged <\/p>\n

822
\n00:51:55,730 –> 00:51:58,290
\nversion of Romans.
\nYou guys ever read books in <\/p>\n

823
\n00:51:58,290 –> 00:52:01,050
\nschool and you had to write a
\nbook report, but you never <\/p>\n

824
\n00:52:01,050 –> 00:52:03,090
\nreally wanted to read the book.
\nAnd so you read this, this <\/p>\n

825
\n00:52:03,090 –> 00:52:05,250
\nlittle summary of the book We
\nused to call these in the in the<\/p>\n

826
\n00:52:05,250 –> 00:52:07,970
\nStates Cliff notes.
\nRight, And you still read the. <\/p>\n

827
\n00:52:07,970 –> 00:52:09,450
\nSummary of the book and then
\nwrite your book. <\/p>\n

828
\n00:52:09,450 –> 00:52:12,170
\nReport off the summary.
\nRight, because you’re too lazy <\/p>\n

829
\n00:52:12,170 –> 00:52:14,650
\nto read the book.
\nAm I the only one who did that? <\/p>\n

830
\n00:52:15,250 –> 00:52:18,090
\nYou guys are also honest.
\nWow. <\/p>\n

831
\n00:52:18,570 –> 00:52:24,450
\nOK, well anyways, Galatians is
\nlike the Cliff Notes version of <\/p>\n

832
\n00:52:24,450 –> 00:52:27,490
\nRomans, and so actually can find
\na lot of the same concepts in <\/p>\n

833
\n00:52:27,490 –> 00:52:30,370
\nGalatians as you can find in
\nRomans and vice versa. <\/p>\n

834
\n00:52:31,410 –> 00:52:36,210
\nAnd so Galatians 516 through 18
\ntakes up the exact same. <\/p>\n

835
\n00:52:36,730 –> 00:52:39,170
\nIdea that we just read in in
\nRoman Chapter 7. <\/p>\n

836
\n00:52:40,050 –> 00:52:45,090
\nGlacius 5 says this, so I say
\nlive by the. <\/p>\n

837
\n00:52:45,090 –> 00:52:49,050
\nSpirit and you will not gratify
\nthe desires of the sinful <\/p>\n

838
\n00:52:49,050 –> 00:52:53,850
\nnature.
\nFor the sinful nature desires <\/p>\n

839
\n00:52:54,410 –> 00:52:59,490
\nwhat is contrary to the Spirit,
\nand the Spirit what is contrary <\/p>\n

840
\n00:52:59,490 –> 00:53:00,410
\nto the sinful.
\nNature. <\/p>\n

841
\n00:53:00,690 –> 00:53:04,970
\nThey are in conflict with each
\nother so that you do not do what<\/p>\n

842
\n00:53:04,970 –> 00:53:08,700
\nyou want.
\nBut if you are led by the <\/p>\n

843
\n00:53:08,700 –> 00:53:12,820
\nSpirit.
\nYou are not under the law, so <\/p>\n

844
\n00:53:12,820 –> 00:53:15,820
\nyou do not do what you want.
\nThat’s the idea. <\/p>\n

845
\n00:53:16,580 –> 00:53:24,300
\nVery profound.
\nYou do not do what you want in <\/p>\n

846
\n00:53:24,300 –> 00:53:27,820
\nthis light, how wise you really
\nthink it is. <\/p>\n

847
\n00:53:27,820 –> 00:53:32,220
\nTrust yourself when your
\npassions are aroused and get <\/p>\n

848
\n00:53:32,220 –> 00:53:35,270
\nsmart.
\nDo you think that? <\/p>\n

849
\n00:53:35,310 –> 00:53:39,630
\nYour desires are really the
\nanswer to your problems That <\/p>\n

850
\n00:53:39,630 –> 00:53:43,030
\njust follow your desires more.
\nThat’s the answer. <\/p>\n

851
\n00:53:44,510 –> 00:53:47,550
\nDo you really think that your
\nwillpower is going to be what <\/p>\n

852
\n00:53:47,550 –> 00:53:53,270
\nhelps you stop from sinning?
\nDo you think it’s self will and <\/p>\n

853
\n00:53:53,270 –> 00:53:55,270
\nself-control are really going to
\nstop you from sinning? <\/p>\n

854
\n00:53:56,070 –> 00:53:57,270
\nThat you’re going to save
\nyourself? <\/p>\n

855
\n00:54:00,630 –> 00:54:01,830
\nYou know what’s the main
\nproblem? <\/p>\n

856
\n00:54:01,830 –> 00:54:04,750
\nThis is really important, so if
\nyou lost me, come back to me <\/p>\n

857
\n00:54:04,750 –> 00:54:11,230
\nNow, what is the main problem in
\nrelying on willpower to stop <\/p>\n

858
\n00:54:11,230 –> 00:54:17,470
\nfrom sinning?
\nI’ll tell you what the problem <\/p>\n

859
\n00:54:17,470 –> 00:54:21,790
\nis for me is that I can’t be
\nboth the problem and the <\/p>\n

860
\n00:54:21,790 –> 00:54:28,150
\nsolution at the same time,
\nbecause when I need me to be the<\/p>\n

861
\n00:54:28,150 –> 00:54:33,010
\nsolution the most.
\nIs when I in most the problem. <\/p>\n

862
\n00:54:35,610 –> 00:54:40,490
\nI can’t be both the problem and
\nthe solution at the same time. <\/p>\n

863
\n00:54:41,530 –> 00:54:44,490
\nAnd you know what?
\nYou can’t either. <\/p>\n

864
\n00:54:46,890 –> 00:54:48,890
\nYou think.
\nYou’re the answer to your <\/p>\n

865
\n00:54:48,890 –> 00:54:52,490
\nproblems, you think.
\nYou’re the way that you’re just <\/p>\n

866
\n00:54:52,490 –> 00:54:56,930
\ngoing to try harder, that if you
\njust try harder, you’re going to<\/p>\n

867
\n00:54:56,930 –> 00:55:01,660
\novercome the sin thing.
\nI tell you what, it’s not going <\/p>\n

868
\n00:55:01,660 –> 00:55:05,740
\nto work, and it’s going to just
\nlead to depression and to <\/p>\n

869
\n00:55:05,740 –> 00:55:09,220
\nsadness.
\nIf you try to think that you’re <\/p>\n

870
\n00:55:09,220 –> 00:55:15,300
\nthe answer to your problem, and
\nmaybe God asking God to help you<\/p>\n

871
\n00:55:15,460 –> 00:55:18,380
\nbe the answer to your problem,
\nyou will fail. <\/p>\n

872
\n00:55:19,860 –> 00:55:21,780
\nAnd you’ll ask again.
\nAnd you’ll fail, and you ask <\/p>\n

873
\n00:55:21,780 –> 00:55:23,460
\nagain, and you’ll fail, and you
\nask again, you’ll fail. <\/p>\n

874
\n00:55:23,460 –> 00:55:26,900
\nAnd eventually you get so
\ndepressed with this failing. <\/p>\n

875
\n00:55:27,140 –> 00:55:30,940
\nThat you just stop trying.
\nBecause you cannot be the answer<\/p>\n

876
\n00:55:30,940 –> 00:55:38,420
\nto your problem when you are the
\nproblem, it doesn’t not going to<\/p>\n

877
\n00:55:38,420 –> 00:55:42,540
\nwork.
\nWhat about the law? <\/p>\n

878
\n00:55:44,420 –> 00:55:51,140
\nI think the same principle
\napplies when you need a law to <\/p>\n

879
\n00:55:51,300 –> 00:55:54,820
\nbe when you need the law to be a
\nlaw the most. <\/p>\n

880
\n00:55:56,180 –> 00:55:58,940
\nIt ceases to be a law that was
\nconfusing. <\/p>\n

881
\n00:56:01,460 –> 00:56:06,140
\nWhy?
\nBecause our desire overrules it <\/p>\n

882
\n00:56:06,260 –> 00:56:08,220
\nand it fails in our weakness.
\nDo you get it? <\/p>\n

883
\n00:56:08,300 –> 00:56:12,300
\nWhen I need the law to be a law,
\nwhen I need the law to be a law <\/p>\n

884
\n00:56:12,380 –> 00:56:19,180
\nto me, When I really need it to
\nbe a law to rule me, it’s not a <\/p>\n

885
\n00:56:19,180 –> 00:56:21,220
\nlaw.
\nIt fails to be a law. <\/p>\n

886
\n00:56:21,220 –> 00:56:23,140
\nWhen I need to be a law.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

887
\n00:56:25,620 –> 00:56:27,660
\nBecause our desire just simply
\noverrules it. <\/p>\n

888
\n00:56:29,090 –> 00:56:32,650
\nThe law fails in our weakness,
\nnot because the law was to <\/p>\n

889
\n00:56:32,650 –> 00:56:40,930
\nblame, but because we’re sinful.
\nSo as we conclude. <\/p>\n

890
\n00:56:42,250 –> 00:56:43,570
\nAnd I left you there, by the
\nway. <\/p>\n

891
\n00:56:43,970 –> 00:56:45,610
\nSo if you’re not the answer to
\nyour problem, what is? <\/p>\n

892
\n00:56:45,610 –> 00:56:47,570
\nWe’re going to have to wait till
\ntomorrow to get into that, <\/p>\n

893
\n00:56:48,050 –> 00:56:49,010
\nright?
\nProbably. <\/p>\n

894
\n00:56:49,010 –> 00:56:50,290
\nWant to know what the answer is,
\ndon’t you? <\/p>\n

895
\n00:56:53,770 –> 00:56:55,370
\nWell, that’s what chapter
\neight’s for, by the way. <\/p>\n

896
\n00:56:56,090 –> 00:56:58,050
\nAnd Paul doesn’t end his
\nargument Chapter 7 either. <\/p>\n

897
\n00:56:59,930 –> 00:57:02,610
\nSo as we conclude, let’s read
\nthrough the last three verses of<\/p>\n

898
\n00:57:02,610 –> 00:57:03,690
\nChapter 7.
\nThis gained a little <\/p>\n

899
\n00:57:03,690 –> 00:57:06,650
\nexpectation.
\nRomans Chapter 7 versus 21. <\/p>\n

900
\n00:57:06,770 –> 00:57:11,090
\nLast four verses 21 through 25 I
\nfind in a law that evil is <\/p>\n

901
\n00:57:11,090 –> 00:57:16,490
\npresent with me, the one who.
\nWills to do good for I delight. <\/p>\n

902
\n00:57:16,490 –> 00:57:18,530
\nIn the law of God according to
\nthe inward man. <\/p>\n

903
\n00:57:18,730 –> 00:57:20,370
\nBut I see another law in my
\nmembers. <\/p>\n

904
\n00:57:20,370 –> 00:57:23,410
\nWorrying is the law of my mind,
\nand bringing me in the captivity<\/p>\n

905
\n00:57:23,650 –> 00:57:25,970
\nto the law of sin, which is my
\nmembers. <\/p>\n

906
\n00:57:26,560 –> 00:57:30,680
\nOh wretched man that I am who
\nwill deliver me from this body <\/p>\n

907
\n00:57:30,680 –> 00:57:35,560
\nof death?
\nI thank God through Jesus Christ<\/p>\n

908
\n00:57:35,560 –> 00:57:39,440
\nour Lord.
\nSo then, with my mind I serve <\/p>\n

909
\n00:57:39,440 –> 00:57:41,840
\nthe law of God with my flesh,
\nthe law of sin. <\/p>\n

910
\n00:57:43,120 –> 00:57:47,640
\nOh, wretched man that I am.
\nCan you read those words <\/p>\n

911
\n00:57:47,640 –> 00:57:50,600
\ndramatically enough?
\nCan we read them with a sweat <\/p>\n

912
\n00:57:50,600 –> 00:57:54,080
\nand the tears of the the years
\nof toil trying to overcome sin? <\/p>\n

913
\n00:57:54,200 –> 00:57:57,240
\nI mean, how long have you really
\ntried to go without sinning? <\/p>\n

914
\n00:57:57,760 –> 00:58:00,320
\nHow long have you really tried?
\nHave you ever tried? <\/p>\n

915
\n00:58:00,920 –> 00:58:06,960
\nHave you said I’m not going to
\nsin, I’m not going to covet, I’m<\/p>\n

916
\n00:58:06,960 –> 00:58:09,440
\ngoing to love my neighbor, I’m
\ngoing to love God. <\/p>\n

917
\n00:58:09,440 –> 00:58:13,280
\nI’m going to put in first.
\nHow long have you really tried <\/p>\n

918
\n00:58:13,280 –> 00:58:17,390
\nto go without sinning?
\nBecause if you tried, and you <\/p>\n

919
\n00:58:17,390 –> 00:58:21,070
\nfailed, and you failed, and you
\nfailed and you failed like Paul <\/p>\n

920
\n00:58:21,070 –> 00:58:27,990
\nhas, then you say I’m a Wretch.
\nYou understand that Chapter 8 <\/p>\n

921
\n00:58:27,990 –> 00:58:30,390
\ndoesn’t work until you realize
\nyou’re a Wretch. <\/p>\n

922
\n00:58:31,950 –> 00:58:36,030
\nChapter 8 doesn’t work.
\nChapter 8 works when you’ve <\/p>\n

923
\n00:58:36,030 –> 00:58:38,750
\nconcluded with Paul that you’re
\nin the same position Paul was, <\/p>\n

924
\n00:58:38,790 –> 00:58:42,230
\nand this is Paul the apostle who
\nconcludes this. <\/p>\n

925
\n00:58:42,980 –> 00:58:45,780
\nImagine a man who who could, who
\ncould boast and works. <\/p>\n

926
\n00:58:45,780 –> 00:58:48,700
\nIt would be the apostle Paul.
\nAnd Paul has. <\/p>\n

927
\n00:58:48,700 –> 00:58:55,620
\nConcluded that he’s a rich, and
\nI wonder if the reason we don’t <\/p>\n

928
\n00:58:55,620 –> 00:58:57,780
\nthink that is because we don’t
\nreally try not to sin. <\/p>\n

929
\n00:59:01,100 –> 00:59:04,140
\nWe’re kind of OK with sin.
\nOr a little bit OK with it. <\/p>\n

930
\n00:59:05,180 –> 00:59:11,300
\nYou know, I really can’t stop
\nthis thing that I struggle with.<\/p>\n

931
\n00:59:12,150 –> 00:59:15,310
\nSo rather than stop it, I’m just
\ngoing to stop feeling guilty <\/p>\n

932
\n00:59:15,310 –> 00:59:19,630
\nabout it.
\nMaybe we’ve reached that <\/p>\n

933
\n00:59:19,630 –> 00:59:24,830
\nconclusion.
\nSad conclusion to reach. <\/p>\n

934
\n00:59:33,730 –> 00:59:36,490
\nPaul was ready to understand how
\ndesperately he needed Christ, <\/p>\n

935
\n00:59:36,650 –> 00:59:39,890
\nbecause he understood that the
\nvery thing that made him a <\/p>\n

936
\n00:59:39,890 –> 00:59:42,210
\nWretch is exactly what Christ
\novercame. <\/p>\n

937
\n00:59:42,210 –> 00:59:46,850
\nYou know.
\nThis is why when Jesus <\/p>\n

938
\n00:59:46,850 –> 00:59:58,100
\nsacrificed himself on the cross.
\nYou didn’t just endure pain or <\/p>\n

939
\n00:59:58,100 –> 01:00:15,060
\nhunger or exhaustion or thirst
\nor ridicule or humiliation, even<\/p>\n

940
\n01:00:15,060 –> 01:00:20,420
\nrejection, you know, when you
\nlook at Cross Christ on the <\/p>\n

941
\n01:00:20,420 –> 01:00:23,410
\ncross.
\nWe think of the cross as being <\/p>\n

942
\n01:00:23,410 –> 01:00:25,170
\nthis brutally painful thing,
\ndon’t we? <\/p>\n

943
\n01:00:25,210 –> 01:00:29,610
\nJust brutally painful, right.
\nAnd having our our nails, you <\/p>\n

944
\n01:00:29,610 –> 01:00:32,690
\nknow, pounded into the to that
\npalms of our hands, you know. <\/p>\n

945
\n01:00:32,690 –> 01:00:35,610
\nAnd we just think about how
\npainful that would be. <\/p>\n

946
\n01:00:36,410 –> 01:00:40,170
\nBut tell me, tell me young
\npeople how much text is the <\/p>\n

947
\n01:00:40,170 –> 01:00:44,370
\nBible actually give to the to
\nthe to the fact of crucifying <\/p>\n

948
\n01:00:44,450 –> 01:00:49,170
\nJesus.
\nI’ll tell you Matthew 2735 then <\/p>\n

949
\n01:00:49,170 –> 01:00:53,940
\nthey crucified him.
\nAnd it gives us exactly 4 words.<\/p>\n

950
\n01:00:56,820 –> 01:01:00,980
\nI’m trying to say it wasn’t
\npainful, but how much? <\/p>\n

951
\n01:01:00,980 –> 01:01:05,940
\nText the gospel writers focus on
\nthe insults, on the emotional <\/p>\n

952
\n01:01:05,940 –> 01:01:11,020
\nabuse, on humiliation, on the
\nrejection, on the slander that <\/p>\n

953
\n01:01:11,020 –> 01:01:18,020
\nhe endured quite a bit more.
\nMatthew 27, verse 39 we read. <\/p>\n

954
\n01:01:18,430 –> 01:01:21,430
\nAnd those who passed by
\nblasphemed him, wagging their <\/p>\n

955
\n01:01:21,430 –> 01:01:25,510
\nheads and saying, You destroy
\nthe temple and build in three <\/p>\n

956
\n01:01:25,510 –> 01:01:30,110
\ndays, save yourself, you’re the
\nSon of God, come down from the <\/p>\n

957
\n01:01:30,110 –> 01:01:33,750
\ncross.
\nLikewise the chief priest also <\/p>\n

958
\n01:01:33,750 –> 01:01:36,750
\nmocking with the scribes.
\nAnd the elders. <\/p>\n

959
\n01:01:36,750 –> 01:01:39,630
\nSaid he saved.
\nOthers himself he cannot. <\/p>\n

960
\n01:01:39,630 –> 01:01:42,710
\nSave He’s the king of Israel.
\nLet him come down from the cross<\/p>\n

961
\n01:01:42,710 –> 01:01:46,470
\nnow we will believe him.
\nHe trusted in God. <\/p>\n

962
\n01:01:47,070 –> 01:01:51,030
\nWhat if God deliver?
\nHim now God will have him for he<\/p>\n

963
\n01:01:51,030 –> 01:01:52,470
\nsaid.
\nI’m the Son of God. <\/p>\n

964
\n01:01:53,470 –> 01:01:58,070
\nThe thieves also, which are
\ncrucified with him, cast him in <\/p>\n

965
\n01:01:58,070 –> 01:02:09,610
\nhis teeth.
\nWhat do you have? <\/p>\n

966
\n01:02:09,610 –> 01:02:13,850
\nVictory over?
\nDid you have victory over pain. <\/p>\n

967
\n01:02:15,770 –> 01:02:20,450
\nVictory over pain Alone.
\nDid he not have victory over <\/p>\n

968
\n01:02:20,450 –> 01:02:24,610
\nhumiliation?
\nDid he not have victory over <\/p>\n

969
\n01:02:24,610 –> 01:02:30,650
\nthirst over hunger?
\nDid he not have victory over <\/p>\n

970
\n01:02:30,650 –> 01:02:38,250
\nrejection and humiliation?
\nDid not he have complete victory<\/p>\n

971
\n01:02:38,250 –> 01:02:47,890
\nover self, the ultimate victory
\nover self over the flesh? <\/p>\n

972
\n01:02:49,170 –> 01:02:54,970
\nEverything that He accomplished,
\neverything he accomplished, was <\/p>\n

973
\n01:02:54,970 –> 01:02:57,010
\nin complete opposition to his
\nnature. <\/p>\n

974
\n01:02:58,530 –> 01:03:02,050
\nHe overcame passions so
\npoignantly expressed in this <\/p>\n

975
\n01:03:02,050 –> 01:03:13,250
\nverse, for it became Him for
\nwhom are all things and by whom <\/p>\n

976
\n01:03:13,970 –> 01:03:17,800
\nare all things.
\nIn bringing many sons Agori to <\/p>\n

977
\n01:03:17,800 –> 01:03:22,040
\nmake the captain of their
\nsalvation perfect through <\/p>\n

978
\n01:03:22,040 –> 01:03:27,640
\nsuffering.
\nThat says suffering promise you.<\/p>\n

979
\n01:03:30,320 –> 01:03:34,800
\nBut you know what?
\nThat word suffering is the exact<\/p>\n

980
\n01:03:34,800 –> 01:03:42,280
\nsame word, passion.
\nIt’s the exact same word passion<\/p>\n

981
\n01:03:42,280 –> 01:03:47,290
\nfrom Roman 7.
\nHe was made perfect through <\/p>\n

982
\n01:03:47,290 –> 01:03:51,050
\npassion.
\nBy yielding to the Passion. <\/p>\n

983
\n01:03:52,890 –> 01:04:02,850
\nNo, by yielding it to God.
\nWe all have the same thing <\/p>\n

984
\n01:04:02,850 –> 01:04:04,330
\ninside us.
\nYou get it? <\/p>\n

985
\n01:04:04,770 –> 01:04:06,810
\nWe all have the same thing
\ninside us. <\/p>\n

986
\n01:04:08,290 –> 01:04:10,530
\nYou know, Jesus did not want to
\ndie. <\/p>\n

987
\n01:04:10,530 –> 01:04:16,300
\nHe did not want to die.
\nAnd that is what gave his death <\/p>\n

988
\n01:04:16,300 –> 01:04:20,580
\nmeaning.
\nHe suffered, he said, Oh <\/p>\n

989
\n01:04:20,580 –> 01:04:26,500
\nwretched man that I am who will
\ndeliver me from this body of <\/p>\n

990
\n01:04:26,500 –> 01:04:36,680
\ndeath, I thank God through Jesus
\nChrist our Lord, Paul says. <\/p>\n

991
\n01:04:39,400 –> 01:04:45,440
\nSo the young people, that’s what
\nChrist took to the cross. <\/p>\n

992
\n01:04:46,780 –> 01:04:52,660
\nAnd that’s what he crucified.
\nSo what I’m asking you to do is <\/p>\n

993
\n01:04:52,660 –> 01:04:56,420
\na very difficult thing.
\nWhat I’m actually asking you to <\/p>\n

994
\n01:04:56,420 –> 01:05:00,020
\ndo is I’m actually asking you to
\nconsider yourself a Wretch <\/p>\n

995
\n01:05:01,580 –> 01:05:04,060
\nbecause that is where Paul
\nleaves us at the end of Chapter <\/p>\n

996
\n01:05:04,060 –> 01:05:08,700
\n7.
\nIf I’ve got not gotten that idea<\/p>\n

997
\n01:05:08,700 –> 01:05:11,140
\nacross and these first two
\nclasses and I have failed. <\/p>\n

998
\n01:05:12,860 –> 01:05:15,140
\nBecause that is the point to
\nwhich Paul has led us. <\/p>\n

999
\n01:05:15,140 –> 01:05:19,500
\nBefore we begin Chapter 8,
\nbefore we begin that word, <\/p>\n

1000
\n01:05:20,700 –> 01:05:24,060
\nthanks.
\nBefore that word, thanks. <\/p>\n

1001
\n01:05:25,140 –> 01:05:30,180
\nThat’s where we’re left.
\nI know that’s a difficult thing <\/p>\n

1002
\n01:05:30,180 –> 01:05:32,460
\nto get across.
\nI know that you’re young. <\/p>\n

1003
\n01:05:33,140 –> 01:05:35,900
\nI know that every year you gain
\nmore strength and you gain more <\/p>\n

1004
\n01:05:35,900 –> 01:05:40,110
\nenergy and become older and.
\nYou know, your flesh doesn’t <\/p>\n

1005
\n01:05:40,110 –> 01:05:41,950
\nseem like it’s weakening.
\nIt doesn’t seem like it’s weak <\/p>\n

1006
\n01:05:41,950 –> 01:05:42,790
\nat all.
\nIt just seems like it’s <\/p>\n

1007
\n01:05:42,790 –> 01:05:45,750
\nstrengthening.
\nAnd maybe when you get to be a <\/p>\n

1008
\n01:05:45,750 –> 01:05:48,630
\nlittle bit older, I mean, I feel
\nlike I’m on the other side of <\/p>\n

1009
\n01:05:48,630 –> 01:05:48,990
\nit.
\nI don’t. <\/p>\n

1010
\n01:05:48,990 –> 01:05:50,430
\nI feel like every year I feel a
\nlittle bit older. <\/p>\n

1011
\n01:05:50,430 –> 01:05:52,630
\nI don’t feel better.
\nSo maybe it’s a little more <\/p>\n

1012
\n01:05:52,630 –> 01:05:56,590
\nobvious for me.
\nI know it’s a very hard thing to<\/p>\n

1013
\n01:05:56,590 –> 01:06:00,870
\nunderstand at this point if I
\nimplore you to understand it. <\/p>\n

1014
\n01:06:02,230 –> 01:06:04,230
\nBecause if you understand it,
\nyou can make incredible <\/p>\n

1015
\n01:06:04,230 –> 01:06:08,150
\ndecisions.
\nYou can make incredible choices.<\/p>\n

1016
\n01:06:11,770 –> 01:06:15,810
\nYou can be thankful, You can
\nshow true gratitude. <\/p>\n

1017
\n01:06:15,810 –> 01:06:20,970
\nYou can really say thanks be to
\nGod through Jesus Christ our <\/p>\n

1018
\n01:06:20,970 –> 01:06:27,650
\nLord.
\nSo we thank Christ for his <\/p>\n

1019
\n01:06:27,650 –> 01:06:33,930
\nexample, for it’s in Christ’s
\nlikeness, actually, that we’re <\/p>\n

1020
\n01:06:33,930 –> 01:06:39,180
\nsaved, young people.
\nGalatians chapter 5, verse 24. <\/p>\n

1021
\n01:06:41,300 –> 01:06:47,860
\nAnd those who are Christ’s have
\ncrucified the flesh with its <\/p>\n

1022
\n01:06:47,860 –> 01:06:58,220
\npassion and with this desires.
\nSo tomorrow we’ll consider then <\/p>\n

1023
\n01:07:00,380 –> 01:07:04,300
\nif we get to this point, we get
\nto the point where we’re <\/p>\n

1024
\n01:07:04,300 –> 01:07:10,170
\nactually willing to do this.
\nThe amazing blessings we have in<\/p>\n

1025
\n01:07:10,250 –> 01:07:29,850
\nJesus.
\nThank you for listening to the <\/p>\n

1026
\n01:07:29,850 –> 01:07:31,610
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\nPodcast. <\/p>\n

1027
\n01:07:32,370 –> 01:07:34,290
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\nyour walk. <\/p>\n

1028
\n01:07:34,900 –> 01:07:37,180
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1029
\n01:07:37,180 –> 01:07:40,060
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1030
\n01:07:40,060 –> 01:07:42,700
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1031
\n01:07:42,700 –> 01:07:45,460
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1032
\n01:07:45,460 –> 01:07:47,980
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1033
\n01:07:47,980 –> 01:07:50,700
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1034
\n01:07:50,700 –> 01:07:55,140
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\npage at Anchor dot FM GCT or <\/p>\n

1035
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1036
\n01:07:58,740 –> 01:08:01,100
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1039
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\n01:08:11,660 –> 01:08:13,220
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1041
\n01:08:13,660 –> 01:08:16,020
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1042
\n01:08:16,540 –> 01:08:18,580
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1044
\n01:08:21,899 –> 01:08:24,819
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1045
\n01:08:24,979 –> 01:08:27,020
\nGod bless and talk to you next
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