Class 4 from Bro. John Launchbury\u2019s series on \u201cThe Transformed Mind\u201d.<\/p>\n
Class 1 from this series was used for GCT Episode 054.<\/p>\n
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\nWestern Chris, Duffy and bio
\nescalope Manuka. <\/p>\n
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\nThe speaker is John launch
\nBrewery. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd this is the fourth class in
\nthis series. <\/p>\n
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\nThe transformed mind, this
\naddress is entitled crucified <\/p>\n
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\nwith Christ and was recorded on
\nJuly 28, 2011, a Buddhist is in <\/p>\n
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\nNew York City because up to the
\nhot dog vendor and he says make <\/p>\n
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\nSo here’s my question. <\/p>\n
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\nWhy isn’t it the Christian Why
\nisn’t it? <\/p>\n
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\nYou know what, you’re a
\nchristadelphians. <\/p>\n
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\nWhen you go up to a new, add to
\na hot dog vendor and say make me<\/p>\n
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\none with everything.
\nBecause it’s a command of Jesus.<\/p>\n
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\nAnd and one of the challenges
\nthat we have in Christianity, is<\/p>\n
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\nsecond century, the third <\/p>\n
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\ncentury, and so on.
\nWhen Christianity started to <\/p>\n
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\nbecome very creedal from the
\nNicene Creed and the athanasian <\/p>\n
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\nCreed, and his whole idea that
\nwe’re going to Define ourselves <\/p>\n
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\nexplicitly in intellectual
\ncorrectness, or particular sets <\/p>\n
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\nYou matters that Jesus described
\nthem of things like mercy and <\/p>\n
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\ncompassion.
\nHow come those aren’t the <\/p>\n
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\ndefining characteristics of what
\nit means to be followers of <\/p>\n
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\nChrist?
\nI think it’s going to be <\/p>\n
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\nfascinating to explore some of
\nthese. <\/p>\n
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\nThe Story Goes On, by the way,
\nthe Buddhist pays with a ten <\/p>\n
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\ndollar bill, and the vendor
\nreceives it Pockets it and turns<\/p>\n
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\nHey, since the Buddhist. <\/p>\n
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\nWhere’s my change change is
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\nwhat we’re talking about in this
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\nYesterday we part of what we
\nwere doing in thinking about <\/p>\n
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\nmeditative prayer, was exploring
\nthe idea that the past and the <\/p>\n
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\nconstructs that we build and <\/p>\n
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\nhold.
\nAnd if we’re not careful, we <\/p>\n
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\nspend our time living in these
\nworlds that we have created, <\/p>\n
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\nthere were previous moments
\nthere will be future moments, <\/p>\n
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\nbut the sense we have of the
\npast isn’t Leave those <\/p>\n
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\nindividual moments, it’s the
\nconstruct, the model, the <\/p>\n
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\ninterpretation that we’ve built
\nof those things that have <\/p>\n
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\nhappened in the past.
\nAnd indeed, we don’t have any <\/p>\n
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\nexperience of the future
\nmoments. <\/p>\n
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\nBut nonetheless, we build up.
\nImagining we build up mental <\/p>\n
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\nconstructs and to the extent
\nthat we spend our life living in<\/p>\n
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\nthe past, or living in the
\nfuture, we’re living in the <\/p>\n
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\nworld, we create rather than the
\nworld God creates, which is the <\/p>\n
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\nworld of this moment now.
\nAnd Jesus tells us to let go of <\/p>\n
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\nthe past.
\nJust that it’s done, it’s gone <\/p>\n
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\nand not to worry about the
\nfuture and to be anxious about <\/p>\n
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\nthe future, but to step into the
\nreign of God. <\/p>\n
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\nToday, we’re going to carry on
\nthis idea of exploring things <\/p>\n
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\nthat are within us as mental
\nconstructs, that get in the way <\/p>\n
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\nof our ability to actually
\nconnect with the things of God. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd today, we’re going to
\nexplore the idea of crucified <\/p>\n
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\nwith Christ. we’re going to see
\nthat our sense of self is also a<\/p>\n
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\nmental construct that we build
\nand that gets in the way of <\/p>\n
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\nconnecting with God and with
\neach other, If you look at <\/p>\n
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\nMatthew chapter 10 so it’s very
\nfamous passage. <\/p>\n
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\nWe read it many times.
\nMatthew chapter 10 and verse 39,<\/p>\n
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\nVerse 39, whoever finds his life
\nwill lose it. <\/p>\n
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\nWhoever loses his life, for my
\nsake will find it. <\/p>\n
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\nI don’t think he’s just talking
\nabout the Stevens and the peters<\/p>\n
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\nand the Paul’s of this world who
\nwere stoned or even the Jesus of<\/p>\n
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\nthis world who was crucified I
\ndon’t think it’s talking about <\/p>\n
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\nphysical martyrdom.
\nSo much as actual spiritual <\/p>\n
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\nmartyrdom to, actually allow
\nourselves to die before we die. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s about losing life, it’s
\nabout being willing to give up <\/p>\n
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\nthis.
\nThis sent this thing that I so <\/p>\n
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\ndesperately guard and protect
\nthis sense of me. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s being willing to give that
\nup and Jesus says, look if you <\/p>\n
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\nwork to get that life to find
\nyour life as it were to build <\/p>\n
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\nthink is what he’s talking <\/p>\n
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\nYou’ll actually lose life. <\/p>\n
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\nBut the extent to which you’re
\nactually able to die before you <\/p>\n
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\ndie, the extent that you’re able
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\nthat you’ll be able to find it.
\nAnd he actually gives an example<\/p>\n
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\nVerses, anyone who loves his <\/p>\n
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\nNot worthy of me.
\nAnyone who loves his son or <\/p>\n
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\nNot worthy of me, anyone who <\/p>\n
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\nfollow me is not worthy of me <\/p>\n
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\nwilling say with Rachel and Zoe <\/p>\n
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\nwhat I have to give up. <\/p>\n
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\nLove the idea of This wife or <\/p>\n
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\nthis son or so, but be willing
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\nlose your life, and then you’ll
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\nphrase of take up your cross.
\nAnd follow me. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd he says it strongly anyone <\/p>\n
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\nAnd follow me is not worthy of <\/p>\n
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\nAgain, I don’t want us in any of<\/p>\n
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\nWhen we realize that we fail, <\/p>\n
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\nthe And following him.
\nAnd so we can look at this and I<\/p>\n
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\ncan say, I realize I may have
\npicked it up occasionally and I <\/p>\n
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\nkept putting it down and I
\ncertainly haven’t yet. <\/p>\n
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\nGot to Golgotha and I certainly
\nhaven’t let them Drive in the <\/p>\n
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\nassessment of, where am I in the
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\nThat the Lord is working in me.
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\nthis pale shadow of the life of
\nJohn the self of John but it <\/p>\n
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\nwill be the brilliant glory of
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\nThat is Manifest.
\nSo I’d like us to think about a <\/p>\n
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\ndie, this idea of crucified with
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\nI’m reminded of the joke.
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\nHe’s trying to get somewhere in
\nthe roads were all wind, and he <\/p>\n
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\nsees a farmer leaning against
\nthe fence. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so, he pulls over and goes
\nover to the farmer and his <\/p>\n
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\nchewing on the stalk of grass or
\nwhatever. <\/p>\n
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\nHe says, how do I get to such?
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\nIf I was Now, I wouldn’t start <\/p>\n
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\nWhat is astonishing about that <\/p>\n
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\nIs that it is an accurate <\/p>\n
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\ndescription of our path of
\nfaith. <\/p>\n
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\nWhere we are unwilling to
\nactually accept that we start <\/p>\n
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\nfrom where we are today.
\nAs a rule that is, we are <\/p>\n
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\nunwilling to take on exactly who
\nwe are. <\/p>\n
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\nToday, we have a false image of
\nwho we are, and if we have a <\/p>\n
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\nFalse Image, that’s like asking
\nfor directions of if I wasn’t <\/p>\n
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\nhere, if I was over there, how
\nwould I get to the place that <\/p>\n
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\nI’m trying to get to?
\nGod, is actually offering us a <\/p>\n
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\ngreat deal of help in starting
\nwhere we are today and this is <\/p>\n
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\nthe doctrine of forgiveness, it
\nshould be a This principle <\/p>\n
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\namongst us, I have been
\nforgiven. <\/p>\n
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\nI have been forgiven, it’s very
\nclear in the New Testament. <\/p>\n
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\nI’m not going to go to all the
\npassages will dip into one or <\/p>\n
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\ntwo as we as we go along.
\nGod loves us and forgives us but<\/p>\n
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\nwe don’t believe that he should
\nYou see, if we don’t feel <\/p>\n
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\nforgiven, it’s not because there
\nis any lack on God’s side of <\/p>\n
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\nextending forgiveness to us.
\nIt’s about our inability and <\/p>\n
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\nunwillingness to receive the
\nForgiveness that God extends to <\/p>\n
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\nus.
\nI’d like to look at Hebrews 10 <\/p>\n
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\njust for a moment just so that
\nyou can see that. <\/p>\n
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\nThe sense here.
\nWhen Barnabas or whoever wrote <\/p>\n
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\nHebrews is talking about the law
\nand contrasts with the Covenant <\/p>\n
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\nin Christ.
\nHe says, in chapter 10 and verse<\/p>\n
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\nThe law is only a shadow of the <\/p>\n
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\ngood things that are coming.
\nNot the realities themselves <\/p>\n
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\nwhich should by the way makers
\ncautious when we’re trying to <\/p>\n
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\ndeduce Christ based just on the
\nlaw of Moses, the law is only a <\/p>\n
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\nshadow of the good things that
\nare coming, not the realities <\/p>\n
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\nthemselves for this reason, it’s
\nthe law can never by the same <\/p>\n
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\nsacrifices repeated endlessly
\nyear after year, make perfect, <\/p>\n
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\nIf it could, would they Not have<\/p>\n
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\nstopped being offered for the
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\ncleansed once for all, and would
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\nWith the New Covenant, where the
\nclear implication is, we have <\/p>\n
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\nreason now to feel guilty for <\/p>\n
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\nour sins.
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\nWhat is it?
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\nTake that on board.
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\nall gone.
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\nWe could say it’s a lack of
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\nIt’s a lack of belief in God
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\nwe say, no, you don’t.
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\nPride in that God can forgive, I
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\nGod can forgive everyone else in
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\nworse.
\nA sinner than them that. <\/p>\n
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\nGod can’t forgive me.
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\nit was the phrase Mark was using
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\nI mean, is that not a position
\nof pride? <\/p>\n
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\nBut I think it’s actually often
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\nHere’s what I think goes on.
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\nI shouldn’t have done this.
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\nme.
\nThis is pride slipping in sort <\/p>\n
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\nof under the door seeping in.
\nAnd does this resonate at all. <\/p>\n
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\nJust sometimes that, you know, I
\nwish God didn’t have to forgive <\/p>\n
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\nme.
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\nme because I shouldn’t have done
\nit. <\/p>\n
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\nI am better than this.
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\nThat is a position of <\/p>\n
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\nThat is when we actually get to <\/p>\n
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\nthe point that we say, it may be
\nthat I wish I wasn’t like this, <\/p>\n
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\nbut I am.
\nI was, I don’t know, I was the <\/p>\n
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\nkid who pulled the other kids
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\ndoing that.
\nBut it was me, I am the adult <\/p>\n
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\nwho was aggressive at work and
\nwho did this particular <\/p>\n
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\nsituation?
\nIt was me. <\/p>\n
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\nmoment.
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\nIdeas, like I’m better than
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\nthis, a statements of
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\ntoday.
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\nreality.
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\nreality, we put ourselves in
\nthis imaginary world that we <\/p>\n
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\ncreate not in the world that is
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\nAnd now that God has formed and
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\nposition.
\nAnd so, it’s hard for us to <\/p>\n
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\nactually take the Forgiveness of
\nGod that comes upon us. <\/p>\n
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\nHere’s another one.
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\nlittle bit.
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\nmoney.
\nPardon me. <\/p>\n
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\nI’m not rich enough to be given
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\nI mean, it’s just ludicrous when
\nyou put it that way. <\/p>\n
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\nI’m not good enough to be
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\nNo, you are forgiven because
\nyou’re not good enough. <\/p>\n
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\nYou’re given money because
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\nYou’re given forgiveness because
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\nIf you weren’t a sinner, if you
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\nneed to be forgiven.
\nIn John’s letter his first <\/p>\n
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\nThis is what he says. <\/p>\n
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\nEnd of that first chapter.
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\nIf we claim to be without sin,
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\ntruth is not in us.
\nNow, we never do that as <\/p>\n
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\nchristadelphians.
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\nwe are sinners in in, it’s in
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\nWe are sinners.
\nWe said all the time, we’re not <\/p>\n
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\nbefore God to say, this is what
\nI have done. <\/p>\n
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\nThis is what I continue to do
\nthis thing. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd this thing and this thing
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\nas opposed to claiming that <\/p>\n
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\nsin.
\nI sin, but I wish I hadn’t, or I<\/p>\n
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\nhad a reason to do it or this is
\nwhat anytime that there’s a <\/p>\n
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\ndefensiveness anytime that <\/p>\n
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\nthis is genuinely how it was. <\/p>\n
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\nWe are actually claiming to be
\nwithout sin. he is asking us <\/p>\n
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\nsomething so so simple and yet
\nso hard which is to empty <\/p>\n
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\nourselves just to come before
\nhim and say It was me. <\/p>\n
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\nI did it.
\nI just did. <\/p>\n
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\nHe rails it us, he’s angry at <\/p>\n
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\nus, he’s dubious as to whether
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\nNo, we are already brothers and
\nsisters. <\/p>\n
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\nWe are already in a covenant of
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\nWhereby, our sins are not
\ncounted against us. <\/p>\n
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\nour sins, he is faithful and <\/p>\n
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\nThat that forgiveness is being <\/p>\n
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\nextended to us all the time.
\nIt’s There’s No Lack on God’s <\/p>\n
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\nwillingness to forgive the lack
\nis on our unwillingness to <\/p>\n
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\nis actually from the sense of
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\nIt was me, it truly was me. <\/p>\n
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\ndid.
\nIt seems to me that the only <\/p>\n
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\nour willingness to receive it. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s no, no barrier to
\nforgiveness on the part of God, <\/p>\n
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\nWhat one manifestation of that
\nmight be to take a day where <\/p>\n
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\nhaving a sense of annoyance or <\/p>\n
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\nany kind of negative energy <\/p>\n
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\ndown. <\/p>\n
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\njot it down. <\/p>\n
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\nsomething happens, just jot it <\/p>\n
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\nday, look at this. <\/p>\n
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\nsee something about ourselves. <\/p>\n
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\nWe can bring it to the Lord and
\nwe can say, You read this? <\/p>\n
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\nThrough not owning our sin.
\nWe create a barrier that doesn’t<\/p>\n
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\nwithout defensiveness, without <\/p>\n
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\nwishing it were.
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\nBut I think there’s also another<\/p>\n
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\nAs we forgive those who sin <\/p>\n
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\nagainst us.
\nHey, you know that idea and it <\/p>\n
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\noccurs in a bunch of his
\nParables. <\/p>\n
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\non how much I’m willing to <\/p>\n
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\nSo, you know, you’d better learn<\/p>\n
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\ngot nowhere, nobody actually
\nsaid that but that was the idea.<\/p>\n
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\nYou’d better earn God’s
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\nIt seems to me that it’s an <\/p>\n
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\nforgive, it’s like there’s this
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\nforgiveness to others. guides <\/p>\n
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\nare actually going to be able to<\/p>\n
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\nif there’s a barrier between you<\/p>\n
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\nwill be reflected between you <\/p>\n
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\nand God, and you won’t be able
\nto actually have that sense of <\/p>\n
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\ninability or unwillingness to <\/p>\n
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\nExtended to someone else.
\nSo it’s not that God is saying I<\/p>\n
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\nIt’s that he’s saying, look the <\/p>\n
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\nway to actually access the
\nforgiveness from God, is to put <\/p>\n
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\nit in practice in your life.
\nMake goat go out, go out, <\/p>\n
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\nexplicitly and forgiving other
\npeople as you as you see <\/p>\n
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\nopportunity and have need and
\nthat will start to allow you to <\/p>\n
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\nyou.
\nSo I don’t think it’s God’s <\/p>\n
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\nForget to forgive it’s that we <\/p>\n
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\nWhen we hold something against <\/p>\n
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\nhesitate to give this because
\nit’s so so bizarre. <\/p>\n
336
\n00:25:11,200 –> 00:25:13,900
\nBut I tried it out on the teens
\nand they quite enjoyed it. <\/p>\n
337
\n00:25:13,900 –> 00:25:17,800
\nSo I’m going to inflict it on
\nyou to have you ever driven <\/p>\n
338
\n00:25:17,800 –> 00:25:20,300
\naround with a GPS unit in your,
\nin your car? <\/p>\n
339
\n00:25:20,500 –> 00:25:25,000
\nYou ever tried to mess it up?
\nSo it says turn right. <\/p>\n
340
\n00:25:25,000 –> 00:25:28,100
\nYou know the next Junction, you
\nturn left and then it says <\/p>\n
341
\n00:25:28,100 –> 00:25:30,300
\nyou’re doing a U-turn and then
\nyou turn, right? <\/p>\n
342
\n00:25:30,500 –> 00:25:32,800
\nAnd then it says, well turn.
\nAnd you turn left. <\/p>\n
343
\n00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:35,600
\nAnd then it says turn left and
\nyou go straight on and have you <\/p>\n
344
\n00:25:35,600 –> 00:25:39,800
\never done that?
\nI have. <\/p>\n
345
\n00:25:43,500 –> 00:25:55,500
\nYeah, Randy has as well.
\nImagine just just for the sake <\/p>\n
346
\n00:25:55,500 –> 00:26:00,400
\nof argument, just just for
\nagain, I’m not trying to lay any<\/p>\n
347
\n00:26:00,400 –> 00:26:04,900
\nkind of law or rule or I’m just
\ntrying to create a mental image <\/p>\n
348
\n00:26:04,900 –> 00:26:10,600
\nfor you to play with here.
\nImagine that you are that GPS <\/p>\n
349
\n00:26:10,600 –> 00:26:14,200
\nunit.
\nAnd you say to the driver turn <\/p>\n
350
\n00:26:14,200 –> 00:26:16,100
\nright here, the driver turns
\nleft. <\/p>\n
351
\n00:26:17,200 –> 00:26:20,900
\nWithout being in any sense,
\nupset you say when you have an <\/p>\n
352
\n00:26:20,900 –> 00:26:23,700
\nopportunity to do a U-turn, they
\nturn, right? <\/p>\n
353
\n00:26:26,600 –> 00:26:29,300
\nTwo moves ahead turn, right?
\nThey turn left. <\/p>\n
354
\n00:26:30,800 –> 00:26:33,100
\nJus just see what I’m trying to
\npoint out. <\/p>\n
355
\n00:26:33,400 –> 00:26:39,100
\nJust what an incredible spirit,
\nthat would be if you could just <\/p>\n
356
\n00:26:39,100 –> 00:26:42,700
\nbe.
\nSo completely accepting of, this<\/p>\n
357
\n00:26:42,700 –> 00:26:45,400
\nis where we are.
\nAnd I mean there may be other <\/p>\n
358
\n00:26:45,400 –> 00:26:47,700
\nfactors going on that need to be
\ndealt with. <\/p>\n
359
\n00:26:47,700 –> 00:26:50,100
\nSo I’m not trying to say, this
\nis how you should be. <\/p>\n
360
\n00:26:50,700 –> 00:26:55,000
\nBut what it seems to me is that,
\nthat shows just an incredible <\/p>\n
361
\n00:26:55,000 –> 00:27:00,300
\nSpirit of forgiveness If you can
\nanyway, I don’t know if you find<\/p>\n
362
\n00:27:00,300 –> 00:27:04,000
\nthat idea helpful, but but I
\nthought it was an intriguing <\/p>\n
363
\n00:27:04,000 –> 00:27:07,000
\nthing to play with just as just
\nas an idea. <\/p>\n
364
\n00:27:08,200 –> 00:27:18,000
\nSo the process of dying before
\nyou die, Step 1 or step 0, <\/p>\n
365
\n00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:22,300
\nessentially is start from where
\nyou are today. <\/p>\n
366
\n00:27:24,400 –> 00:27:30,000
\nJust accept fully fully Embrace
\nwhere you are today. <\/p>\n
367
\n00:27:31,500 –> 00:27:36,600
\nUnderstand it, take it on board,
\nexcept it be it because you are <\/p>\n
368
\n00:27:36,600 –> 00:27:41,000
\nit and don’t have an imagination
\nthat you’re something different <\/p>\n
369
\n00:27:41,300 –> 00:27:44,800
\nfrom what you are related to
\nthat. <\/p>\n
370
\n00:27:44,900 –> 00:27:47,300
\nWe could think of, as step to,
\nthey’re not really steps. <\/p>\n
371
\n00:27:47,300 –> 00:27:51,900
\nThey’re more like, sort of
\naspects, is a continual process <\/p>\n
372
\n00:27:51,900 –> 00:27:57,200
\nof acceptance of where we are.
\nSeems to me that as we become <\/p>\n
373
\n00:27:57,200 –> 00:28:01,700
\nmore practiced at
\nself-examination, will be able <\/p>\n
374
\n00:28:02,000 –> 00:28:05,900
\nagain and again, to present
\nthings to God, without the <\/p>\n
375
\n00:28:05,900 –> 00:28:08,100
\nburden of guilt getting, in the
\nway. <\/p>\n
376
\n00:28:08,200 –> 00:28:11,700
\nRemember, we are in a covenant
\nof forgiveness whereby, our sins<\/p>\n
377
\n00:28:11,700 –> 00:28:17,400
\nare not held against us.
\nGuilt is a problem because it <\/p>\n
378
\n00:28:17,400 –> 00:28:20,400
\ndoesn’t allow us actually to see
\nthe thing. <\/p>\n
379
\n00:28:21,500 –> 00:28:24,000
\nIt’s like we put a barrier in
\nfront of it. <\/p>\n
380
\n00:28:26,300 –> 00:28:30,900
\nAnd so, we ought to bring things
\nbefore God without a sense of <\/p>\n
381
\n00:28:31,100 –> 00:28:35,500
\nguilt.
\nWithout a burden of guilt and it<\/p>\n
382
\n00:28:35,508 –> 00:28:38,800
\nseems to me.
\nEach time we do this, another <\/p>\n
383
\n00:28:38,800 –> 00:28:43,300
\npart of us Dies, this is a good
\nthing, remember? <\/p>\n
384
\n00:28:43,900 –> 00:28:48,600
\nBecause it’s another part of the
\npride that I have of who, I <\/p>\n
385
\n00:28:48,600 –> 00:28:55,100
\nthink I ought to be Dies.
\nHere’s another one. <\/p>\n
386
\n00:28:55,100 –> 00:28:58,600
\nGod I want you to know that this
\none. <\/p>\n
387
\n00:29:02,000 –> 00:29:09,300
\nThere’s no prideful positioning,
\nno wishing it were otherwise <\/p>\n
388
\n00:29:09,300 –> 00:29:14,800
\nbecause we’re better than this.
\nIt’s just honest acceptance. <\/p>\n
389
\n00:29:16,000 –> 00:29:20,200
\nIt seems to me that in the New
\nCovenant where to see the <\/p>\n
390
\n00:29:20,200 –> 00:29:25,600
\nexternal Deeds as symptoms of
\nthe state of our spirit as <\/p>\n
391
\n00:29:25,600 –> 00:29:29,800
\nopposed to things that are
\nrestricted by external mandate. <\/p>\n
392
\n00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:35,900
\nThat’s really what the first
\nclass was all about those rules <\/p>\n
393
\n00:29:35,900 –> 00:29:39,200
\nwere there under the first
\nCovenant, to restrain the <\/p>\n
394
\n00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:43,200
\nvicious dog.
\nNow, what we get to see is, how <\/p>\n
395
\n00:29:43,200 –> 00:29:46,900
\nis my spirit being manifest in
\nday-to-day life? <\/p>\n
396
\n00:29:49,400 –> 00:29:53,600
\nAnd we do things that a Shamus.
\nWe bring it before. <\/p>\n
397
\n00:29:53,600 –> 00:29:56,200
\nGod.
\nNot as I’ve broken your rules <\/p>\n
398
\n00:29:56,200 –> 00:30:00,200
\nagain, Lord.
\nBut I see that there’s <\/p>\n
399
\n00:30:00,200 –> 00:30:06,400
\nmanifestation of my spirit of my
\ncharacter of my being It’s not <\/p>\n
400
\n00:30:06,400 –> 00:30:08,800
\nchrist-like.
\nI bring it before you, and I <\/p>\n
401
\n00:30:08,800 –> 00:30:12,000
\naccept this and I acknowledge
\nit, and I’m not burdened down by<\/p>\n
402
\n00:30:12,000 –> 00:30:13,500
\nguilt.
\nBecause I know you’ve taken the <\/p>\n
403
\n00:30:13,500 –> 00:30:17,700
\nguilt away.
\nBut I bring it before you as a <\/p>\n
404
\n00:30:17,700 –> 00:30:21,800
\nstep in the transformation
\nprocess that you’re working in <\/p>\n
405
\n00:30:21,800 –> 00:30:23,900
\nme.
\nRules. <\/p>\n
406
\n00:30:23,900 –> 00:30:28,000
\nI think can be useful as a test
\nto see whether our spirit is in <\/p>\n
407
\n00:30:28,000 –> 00:30:33,200
\ntune with them, to see whether
\nthere’s more growing to do. <\/p>\n
408
\n00:30:34,200 –> 00:30:38,100
\nWell, see whether there’s more
\ndying to do. <\/p>\n
409
\n00:30:39,100 –> 00:30:44,300
\nMore transforming to do.
\nAnd part of this is, we might <\/p>\n
410
\n00:30:44,300 –> 00:30:47,900
\nnotice some of the things that
\nare actually the acts of the <\/p>\n
411
\n00:30:47,900 –> 00:30:56,100
\nself in day-to-day moment.
\nSitting quietly at home and and <\/p>\n
412
\n00:30:56,100 –> 00:31:01,300
\nand then the car alarm goes off.
\nAnd how long does it take before<\/p>\n
413
\n00:31:01,300 –> 00:31:05,200
\nyou first hear that car alarm
\nfor irritation and annoyance to <\/p>\n
414
\n00:31:05,200 –> 00:31:08,500
\nBuilder?
\nBoom, it’s there or the dog is <\/p>\n
415
\n00:31:08,500 –> 00:31:10,400
\nbarking.
\nThose neighbors should do <\/p>\n
416
\n00:31:10,400 –> 00:31:16,200
\nsomething about their dog.
\nIrritation. <\/p>\n
417
\n00:31:17,300 –> 00:31:20,400
\nIs a mental construct.
\nIt’s nothing. <\/p>\n
418
\n00:31:20,800 –> 00:31:25,000
\nAbsolute or fundamental in it.
\nIt’s something that is created <\/p>\n
419
\n00:31:25,000 –> 00:31:35,300
\nin our mind.
\nAnd somehow deep in our minds, <\/p>\n
420
\n00:31:35,300 –> 00:31:41,100
\nin our sense of self our ego, if
\nyou like, there must be some <\/p>\n
421
\n00:31:41,100 –> 00:31:44,200
\nsenses to this is serving a
\npurpose, otherwise it wouldn’t <\/p>\n
422
\n00:31:44,200 –> 00:31:50,600
\nhappen.
\nBut what that purpose is if you <\/p>\n
423
\n00:31:50,600 –> 00:31:54,900
\nlook at it carefully and deeply
\nover time, is that it bolsters, <\/p>\n
424
\n00:31:54,900 –> 00:31:58,600
\nthe sense of self.
\nBecause you get to take a <\/p>\n
425
\n00:31:58,600 –> 00:32:02,200
\nposition of rightness, against
\nsomebody else’s position of <\/p>\n
426
\n00:32:02,200 –> 00:32:06,400
\nwrongness, and it’s an
\nestablishment, then of the self.<\/p>\n
427
\n00:32:08,600 –> 00:32:14,600
\nActually, what’s interesting
\nabout irritation, Is that <\/p>\n
428
\n00:32:14,700 –> 00:32:18,700
\nirritation is actually more
\ndisturbing to you than the <\/p>\n
429
\n00:32:18,700 –> 00:32:25,100
\nirritant itself.
\nSomething very similar with said<\/p>\n
430
\n00:32:25,100 –> 00:32:30,800
\nby the emperor Marcus Aurelius
\nwho said, the effects of anger <\/p>\n
431
\n00:32:31,200 –> 00:32:35,500
\nare almost always more serious
\nthan the causes of anger. <\/p>\n
432
\n00:32:38,600 –> 00:32:43,300
\nI think it’s fascinating that
\nwhen we allow that’s the wrong <\/p>\n
433
\n00:32:43,300 –> 00:32:46,500
\nword.
\nWhen we notice irritation <\/p>\n
434
\n00:32:46,500 –> 00:32:51,000
\ngrowing within us, we have
\nactually created a disturbance <\/p>\n
435
\n00:32:51,000 –> 00:32:55,100
\nthat is significantly greater
\nthan the external effect. <\/p>\n
436
\n00:32:55,100 –> 00:32:58,700
\nWe have developed a whole
\npattern of mental thinking <\/p>\n
437
\n00:32:59,900 –> 00:33:01,500
\nImmediately just gets built,
\nboom! <\/p>\n
438
\n00:33:01,500 –> 00:33:01,900
\nBoom!
\nBoom! <\/p>\n
439
\n00:33:01,900 –> 00:33:02,800
\nBoom!
\nBuilt up. <\/p>\n
440
\n00:33:02,800 –> 00:33:05,000
\nThere’s this huge thing there in
\nour minds. <\/p>\n
441
\n00:33:07,300 –> 00:33:11,400
\nAnd it is that thing, which is
\nmore disturbing than the <\/p>\n
442
\n00:33:11,400 –> 00:33:18,200
\noriginal irritant.
\nOr another Act of the self is <\/p>\n
443
\n00:33:18,200 –> 00:33:24,400
\nfeeling, sorry for yourself.
\nWhere you just have this sense <\/p>\n
444
\n00:33:24,400 –> 00:33:28,000
\nof of wallowing in the
\nparticular circumstance. <\/p>\n
445
\n00:33:28,200 –> 00:33:32,500
\nAgain, there’s nothing in what
\nis going on in that moment that <\/p>\n
446
\n00:33:32,500 –> 00:33:36,700
\nnecessitates that particular
\nreaction in our minds? <\/p>\n
447
\n00:33:37,200 –> 00:33:39,600
\nThat is a construct of our
\nminds. <\/p>\n
448
\n00:33:39,700 –> 00:33:45,000
\nThat is the self.
\nDoing something, this is exactly<\/p>\n
449
\n00:33:45,000 –> 00:33:49,000
\nthe part of us that Jesus is
\nsaying, allow that to die. <\/p>\n
450
\n00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:54,800
\nBecause that sense of feeling
\nsorry for ourselves then has <\/p>\n
451
\n00:33:54,800 –> 00:33:57,700
\nconsequences.
\nAt the very least, what it does <\/p>\n
452
\n00:33:57,900 –> 00:34:02,500
\nis takes us out of the joy of
\nliving in the domain of God. <\/p>\n
453
\n00:34:02,700 –> 00:34:06,700
\nAnd again, I’m not saying these
\nthings to you as rules to be <\/p>\n
454
\n00:34:06,700 –> 00:34:09,100
\nobeyed or to beat you on the
\nhead. <\/p>\n
455
\n00:34:09,100 –> 00:34:14,800
\nWith I’m saying these things as
\noffers for you to examine in <\/p>\n
456
\n00:34:14,800 –> 00:34:17,199
\nyour prayerful contemplation
\ntime. <\/p>\n
457
\n00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:21,000
\nSo you may look at some of these
\nthings that have occurred in the<\/p>\n
458
\n00:34:21,000 –> 00:34:26,600
\nday as you examine yourself and
\nthere’s nothing to be done with <\/p>\n
459
\n00:34:26,600 –> 00:34:28,699
\nthem, you don’t have to fix
\nanything. <\/p>\n
460
\n00:34:30,500 –> 00:34:35,699
\nThat’s Christ job.
\nWhat you need to do is notice <\/p>\n
461
\n00:34:35,699 –> 00:34:40,400
\nthem and then the Light of
\nChrist will shine on whatever it<\/p>\n
462
\n00:34:40,400 –> 00:34:42,900
\nis.
\nWake up, o sleeper rise from the<\/p>\n
463
\n00:34:42,900 –> 00:34:46,900
\ndead and Christ will shine on
\nyou while we go about life, <\/p>\n
464
\n00:34:46,900 –> 00:34:51,000
\nunconscious of these things.
\nWe can’t let the light of Christ<\/p>\n
465
\n00:34:51,000 –> 00:34:54,800
\nshine on it when we see them for
\nwhat they are. <\/p>\n
466
\n00:34:55,100 –> 00:34:59,500
\nThat’s all we have to do.
\nAnd Jesus is able to take over <\/p>\n
467
\n00:34:59,500 –> 00:35:03,400
\nfrom that point, he shines his
\nlight on it and it goes away. <\/p>\n
468
\n00:35:08,500 –> 00:35:11,600
\nAnother aspect of the process
\nand we’ll go to 2 Corinthians. <\/p>\n
469
\n00:35:11,600 –> 00:35:17,500
\n12:4 this is to be willing for
\nGod to take things away from <\/p>\n
470
\n00:35:17,500 –> 00:35:27,500
\nyou. 2 Corinthians 12.
\nPaul had been given tremendous <\/p>\n
471
\n00:35:27,500 –> 00:35:32,200
\nRevelations into the nature of
\nthe New Covenant, the removal of<\/p>\n
472
\n00:35:32,200 –> 00:35:35,600
\nthe dividing wall of hostility
\nbetween Jew and Gentile. <\/p>\n
473
\n00:35:35,800 –> 00:35:38,200
\nThe mystery of Christ.
\nHe talks about all of these <\/p>\n
474
\n00:35:38,200 –> 00:35:41,900
\nsorts of things and that allowed
\nhim to write the incredible <\/p>\n
475
\n00:35:41,900 –> 00:35:47,200
\nletters, that that he’s written.
\nHe says in verse 7 to keep me <\/p>\n
476
\n00:35:47,200 –> 00:35:50,400
\nfrom being conceited because of
\nthese surpassingly. <\/p>\n
477
\n00:35:50,400 –> 00:35:53,100
\nGreat Revelations.
\nThis is 2 Corinthians 12. <\/p>\n
478
\n00:35:53,100 –> 00:35:56,100
\nVerse 7.
\nThere was given me a thorn in my<\/p>\n
479
\n00:35:56,100 –> 00:35:59,400
\nflesh, a messenger from Satan to
\ntorment me. <\/p>\n
480
\n00:36:01,300 –> 00:36:04,300
\nA lot of people have lots of
\nideas about The Thorn In the <\/p>\n
481
\n00:36:04,300 –> 00:36:06,400
\nFlesh, from a site and things
\nlike that. <\/p>\n
482
\n00:36:06,400 –> 00:36:11,500
\nAnd like, I don’t believe any of
\nthose if you follow where we <\/p>\n
483
\n00:36:11,500 –> 00:36:13,600
\ndon’t have time to actually do
\nthe work. <\/p>\n
484
\n00:36:13,600 –> 00:36:16,800
\nBut if you follow themes in the
\nOld Testament, where this word <\/p>\n
485
\n00:36:16,800 –> 00:36:19,600
\nthorn, scroll UPS is used in the
\nOld Testament. <\/p>\n
486
\n00:36:19,800 –> 00:36:24,600
\nIt’s used of the nations in the
\narea where Israel were going to <\/p>\n
487
\n00:36:24,600 –> 00:36:28,400
\ncome in, they will be thorns in
\nyour side and Barbs in your <\/p>\n
488
\n00:36:28,400 –> 00:36:30,800
\neyes.
\nThat’s the idea that Paul is <\/p>\n
489
\n00:36:30,800 –> 00:36:34,900
\npicking up.
\nSo there’s a thorn in the flesh <\/p>\n
490
\n00:36:34,900 –> 00:36:37,800
\nof the community that is being
\ncreated. <\/p>\n
491
\n00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:41,200
\nThink of what Paul was doing.
\nHe was going out, preaching, his<\/p>\n
492
\n00:36:41,200 –> 00:36:46,300
\npreaching Liberation in Christ,
\nfreedom from the old rules, and <\/p>\n
493
\n00:36:46,300 –> 00:36:49,900
\nregulations of the law of Moses
\ntransformation of spirit. <\/p>\n
494
\n00:36:49,900 –> 00:36:53,400
\nThis was the message of Paul.
\nThis is the New Covenant. <\/p>\n
495
\n00:36:55,700 –> 00:37:00,600
\nAnd immediately following him
\ncame the judea’s who would say <\/p>\n
496
\n00:37:00,600 –> 00:37:02,600
\nI’m sorry.
\nBut Paul didn’t explain it all <\/p>\n
497
\n00:37:02,600 –> 00:37:05,000
\nto you.
\nYou do need to be circumcised, <\/p>\n
498
\n00:37:05,500 –> 00:37:08,700
\nyou do need to do this, you do
\nneed to do that. <\/p>\n
499
\n00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:12,000
\nAnd until you do, we’re not
\nallowed to break bread with you.<\/p>\n
500
\n00:37:12,200 –> 00:37:15,600
\nAnd, and all of these rules that
\nfollowed, as the consequential <\/p>\n
501
\n00:37:15,600 –> 00:37:21,300
\neffect of the judea’s is coming
\nin and destroying what Paul, in <\/p>\n
502
\n00:37:21,300 –> 00:37:25,700
\nthe Name of Christ was creating.
\nI should really say that Christ <\/p>\n
503
\n00:37:25,800 –> 00:37:27,700
\nthrough.
\nPaul was crazy. <\/p>\n
504
\n00:37:28,300 –> 00:37:34,500
\nImagine this, your lifework
\nbeing dismantled before your <\/p>\n
505
\n00:37:34,500 –> 00:37:40,300
\neyes.
\nHe says, I prayed to Jesus, <\/p>\n
506
\n00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:45,000
\nthree times to take it away from
\nme, verse 9, but he said, to me,<\/p>\n
507
\n00:37:45,300 –> 00:37:49,300
\nmy grace is sufficient for you
\nfor my power is made perfect in <\/p>\n
508
\n00:37:49,300 –> 00:37:51,300
\nweakness.
\nTherefore, I will boast all the <\/p>\n
509
\n00:37:51,300 –> 00:37:55,500
\nmore gladly about my weaknesses.
\nSo that Power May rest on me. <\/p>\n
510
\n00:37:59,800 –> 00:38:05,000
\nIt’s a very powerful lesson.
\nI had this idea said, Paul that <\/p>\n
511
\n00:38:05,000 –> 00:38:07,300
\nthrough the revelations that
\nwere given to me. <\/p>\n
512
\n00:38:07,400 –> 00:38:11,300
\nI was accomplishing these great
\nthings and I saw this Thorn In <\/p>\n
513
\n00:38:11,308 –> 00:38:14,500
\nthe Flesh and it’s just
\ndestroying it again and again <\/p>\n
514
\n00:38:14,500 –> 00:38:17,200
\nand again.
\nAnd I know it’s Jesus is work. <\/p>\n
515
\n00:38:17,200 –> 00:38:21,400
\nSo I said, please take away this
\nThorn In the Flesh so that we <\/p>\n
516
\n00:38:21,400 –> 00:38:23,000
\ncan accomplish something
\ntogether. <\/p>\n
517
\n00:38:23,000 –> 00:38:31,000
\nLord, and he says, no, No.
\nI need you to learn how to be <\/p>\n
518
\n00:38:31,000 –> 00:38:34,400
\nweak.
\nAnd not be able to accomplish <\/p>\n
519
\n00:38:34,400 –> 00:38:42,100
\nanything. because then when you
\nhave realized that you have no <\/p>\n
520
\n00:38:42,100 –> 00:38:48,700
\nstrength, when you have been
\nable to empty yourself, then <\/p>\n
521
\n00:38:48,700 –> 00:38:53,000
\nyou’ll be strong.
\nAnd so, Paul said, I for <\/p>\n
522
\n00:38:53,000 –> 00:38:57,000
\nChrist’s sake, I Delight in
\nweaknesses in insults, in <\/p>\n
523
\n00:38:57,000 –> 00:39:01,300
\nhardships, in persecutions.
\nAll the things that he faced <\/p>\n
524
\n00:39:01,300 –> 00:39:04,900
\nfrom the judea’s in elements and
\nelsewhere as he was doing the <\/p>\n
525
\n00:39:04,900 –> 00:39:09,300
\nwork of the Lord.
\nIt’s really actually quite quite<\/p>\n
526
\n00:39:09,300 –> 00:39:11,700
\nsad.
\nIf you look at 2 Timothy, this <\/p>\n
527
\n00:39:11,700 –> 00:39:18,200
\nis the last letter we have from
\nPaul before his final defense, <\/p>\n
528
\n00:39:18,200 –> 00:39:22,600
\nthere’s some debate as to,
\nwhether to Timothy was written <\/p>\n
529
\n00:39:22,600 –> 00:39:28,700
\nbefore his first trial to Nero
\nor his first one, he got <\/p>\n
530
\n00:39:28,700 –> 00:39:31,400
\nreleased and then went around
\nand traveled. <\/p>\n
531
\n00:39:31,400 –> 00:39:36,900
\nIt seems even as far as Spain.
\nAnd, and now he’s this may <\/p>\n
532
\n00:39:36,900 –> 00:39:41,400
\nactually be The final letter,
\njust a short while before he <\/p>\n
533
\n00:39:41,500 –> 00:39:45,800
\ndies that he writes to Timothy 1
\nverse 15. <\/p>\n
534
\n00:39:46,800 –> 00:39:53,200
\nHe says You know that everyone
\nin the province of Asia has <\/p>\n
535
\n00:39:53,200 –> 00:40:00,700
\ndeserted me, all of those.
\nEcclesia has all of that effort <\/p>\n
536
\n00:40:00,700 –> 00:40:02,900
\nthat he put into establishing
\nit. <\/p>\n
537
\n00:40:02,900 –> 00:40:08,300
\nHis life work, he sees them
\nhaving turned away. <\/p>\n
538
\n00:40:09,800 –> 00:40:15,300
\nAnd he dies, it seems to me not
\nhaving any sense of the Legacy <\/p>\n
539
\n00:40:15,300 –> 00:40:17,900
\nthat the Lord has actually
\ncreated through him. <\/p>\n
540
\n00:40:18,100 –> 00:40:20,600
\nAnd I think that that was not an
\naccident. <\/p>\n
541
\n00:40:21,900 –> 00:40:25,700
\nPaul says, it was to stop me
\nfrom being conceited and so <\/p>\n
542
\n00:40:25,700 –> 00:40:29,600
\ngenuinely, he died.
\nPerhaps thinking that his life’s<\/p>\n
543
\n00:40:29,600 –> 00:40:32,400
\nwork had been destroyed
\ncompletely destroyed. <\/p>\n
544
\n00:40:34,900 –> 00:40:38,400
\nAnd why?
\nBecause, that allowed him to die<\/p>\n
545
\n00:40:39,000 –> 00:40:42,900
\nbefore he died.
\nAnd that’s what we’re being <\/p>\n
546
\n00:40:42,900 –> 00:40:47,100
\ncalled, too.
\nSo much of our sense of self <\/p>\n
547
\n00:40:47,500 –> 00:40:52,600
\ncomes for from our job.
\nI am a computer scientist. <\/p>\n
548
\n00:40:52,600 –> 00:40:55,200
\nI’m a mathematician, those kinds
\nof things are family. <\/p>\n
549
\n00:40:55,500 –> 00:41:00,700
\nThis is where I am in here.
\nThis was my father, my mother, <\/p>\n
550
\n00:41:00,800 –> 00:41:04,400
\nthese are my children, this is
\nmy wife, my husband or our <\/p>\n
551
\n00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:06,000
\nchurch.
\nI’m a third-generation <\/p>\n
552
\n00:41:06,000 –> 00:41:09,600
\nchristadelphians and I’m proud
\nof that or, or whatever it is. <\/p>\n
553
\n00:41:11,000 –> 00:41:13,900
\nThis is our sense of self, and
\nJesus. <\/p>\n
554
\n00:41:13,900 –> 00:41:17,000
\nIn the words that we read
\nearlier, I think he’s saying, <\/p>\n
555
\n00:41:17,200 –> 00:41:21,800
\ndon’t take your standing from
\nyour, from your family. <\/p>\n
556
\n00:41:22,500 –> 00:41:26,200
\nHate father, mother brothers,
\nsisters, even your own life. <\/p>\n
557
\n00:41:26,400 –> 00:41:29,700
\nDon’t take it from your job,
\nleave these fish. <\/p>\n
558
\n00:41:29,700 –> 00:41:33,600
\nLeave this table where you’re
\nmaking money, come, and come, <\/p>\n
559
\n00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:36,000
\nand follow me.
\nThis is not what your life <\/p>\n
560
\n00:41:36,000 –> 00:41:39,600
\nconsists of.
\nIt seems to me that the Book of <\/p>\n
561
\n00:41:39,600 –> 00:41:46,400
\nJob, the one who truly died in
\nthe Book of Job was job himself.<\/p>\n
562
\n00:41:47,600 –> 00:41:52,100
\nSay incredible man of Faith,
\njust wonderful blameless, man. <\/p>\n
563
\n00:41:53,500 –> 00:41:57,900
\nAnd he says, things like I had
\nthought to go to the grave in <\/p>\n
564
\n00:41:57,900 –> 00:42:01,900
\npeace with my children and
\ngrandchildren and possessions as<\/p>\n
565
\n00:42:01,900 –> 00:42:08,100
\nit were all around me.
\nGod says, you need to learn to <\/p>\n
566
\n00:42:08,100 –> 00:42:12,600
\ngive that up.
\nJob says, I will hold on to my <\/p>\n
567
\n00:42:12,600 –> 00:42:17,500
\nintegrity.
\nGod says here are three friends <\/p>\n
568
\n00:42:17,500 –> 00:42:21,700
\nto malign you to say things
\nabout you and indeed when I come<\/p>\n
569
\n00:42:21,700 –> 00:42:25,200
\nto you I will point out that
\nyou’re not so perfect either. <\/p>\n
570
\n00:42:27,900 –> 00:42:34,100
\nJob finally dies.
\nAnd that is when the Lord is <\/p>\n
571
\n00:42:34,100 –> 00:42:37,900
\nable.
\nTo resurrect him, we are <\/p>\n
572
\n00:42:37,900 –> 00:42:43,100
\ncrucified with Christ so that we
\nmay also live with Christ. <\/p>\n
573
\n00:42:45,100 –> 00:42:50,100
\nFor us our sense of self may
\ncome from many dimensions. <\/p>\n
574
\n00:42:50,100 –> 00:42:54,300
\nIt may come from our looks kind
\nof handsome, right? <\/p>\n
575
\n00:42:55,800 –> 00:43:00,000
\nYeah.
\nGive them up before they’re <\/p>\n
576
\n00:43:00,000 –> 00:43:06,500
\ngone.
\nIf you age and you’re still <\/p>\n
577
\n00:43:06,500 –> 00:43:11,900
\ntrying to hold on to your looks,
\nit’s a failing battle. <\/p>\n
578
\n00:43:13,300 –> 00:43:18,900
\nIf you can relinquish that sense
\nof yourself long before it’s <\/p>\n
579
\n00:43:18,900 –> 00:43:23,200
\ngone, it will be replaced with
\nan incredible beauty. <\/p>\n
580
\n00:43:23,200 –> 00:43:27,500
\nThat is shining from the inside.
\nWe’ve all seen older people, who<\/p>\n
581
\n00:43:27,500 –> 00:43:32,200
\njust glow Beauty and it’s not
\nbecause of their outer looks <\/p>\n
582
\n00:43:33,800 –> 00:43:38,200
\nMaybe your physical capabilities
\nthat you’re strong and energetic<\/p>\n
583
\n00:43:38,200 –> 00:43:42,300
\nand Powerful.
\nGive It Up. <\/p>\n
584
\n00:43:43,400 –> 00:43:45,800
\nDon’t make that your sense of
\nself. <\/p>\n
585
\n00:43:45,900 –> 00:43:49,600
\nAllow your sense of self to hand
\nthat over. <\/p>\n
586
\n00:43:50,700 –> 00:43:53,400
\nMaybe your intellectual
\nstanding. <\/p>\n
587
\n00:43:55,100 –> 00:44:00,900
\nI know many people in the
\nacademic world bright people win<\/p>\n
588
\n00:44:01,000 –> 00:44:04,300
\nall sorts of prizes, incredibly
\ninsecure. <\/p>\n
589
\n00:44:05,800 –> 00:44:09,300
\nBecause anything like this, you
\ncan always find somebody who is <\/p>\n
590
\n00:44:09,300 –> 00:44:15,400
\nthat bit better than you. give
\nit up, don’t take your sense of <\/p>\n
591
\n00:44:15,400 –> 00:44:22,600
\nvalue from from that or on the
\nother side of things, your pain,<\/p>\n
592
\n00:44:22,800 –> 00:44:28,000
\nand the story that you tell
\nyourself The kind of defines Who<\/p>\n
593
\n00:44:28,000 –> 00:44:32,900
\nYou Are.
\nYou know, you can never be free <\/p>\n
594
\n00:44:32,900 –> 00:44:36,500
\nof that pain.
\nUntil you’re willing to give up <\/p>\n
595
\n00:44:36,500 –> 00:44:39,000
\nyour sense of identity that’s
\nrooted in it. <\/p>\n
596
\n00:44:41,200 –> 00:44:44,400
\nHand it over.
\nGive it up. <\/p>\n
597
\n00:44:46,800 –> 00:44:50,300
\nThese things all Define our
\nsense of self. <\/p>\n
598
\n00:44:51,100 –> 00:44:55,600
\nAnd yet, they’re all imaginings,
\nthere’s no depth to them, and <\/p>\n
599
\n00:44:55,600 –> 00:44:57,900
\nthey interfere with our
\nrelationship with God. <\/p>\n
600
\n00:45:01,400 –> 00:45:06,900
\nSo another aspect of it and this
\nwill be our final aspect is when<\/p>\n
601
\n00:45:06,900 –> 00:45:11,300
\nwe talk about the sense of self
\nand the sense of ego and Rec and<\/p>\n
602
\n00:45:11,300 –> 00:45:15,000
\nwe’re starting perhaps to
\nrecognize at least many aspects <\/p>\n
603
\n00:45:15,000 –> 00:45:18,100
\nof it that are mental
\nconstructs, that are actually <\/p>\n
604
\n00:45:18,100 –> 00:45:22,200
\nthings that we have created in
\nour minds rather than actual <\/p>\n
605
\n00:45:22,200 –> 00:45:24,300
\nrealities that God has put
\nthere. <\/p>\n
606
\n00:45:25,800 –> 00:45:31,800
\nMy separation as an individual
\nfrom you also is a fiction. <\/p>\n
607
\n00:45:33,600 –> 00:45:39,200
\nIt is a mental position.
\nIt is a construct, it’s an <\/p>\n
608
\n00:45:39,200 –> 00:45:42,800
\nillusion, it’s a mod, it’s a
\nmodel of reality. <\/p>\n
609
\n00:45:43,400 –> 00:45:48,400
\nIt isn’t reality itself.
\nAnd models of reality have value<\/p>\n
610
\n00:45:48,400 –> 00:45:52,300
\nsometimes and they don’t have
\nvalue other times. <\/p>\n
611
\n00:45:53,300 –> 00:46:00,700
\nWe often confuse the idea of
\nmodel and an actuality There is <\/p>\n
612
\n00:46:00,700 –> 00:46:02,800
\nno such thing as the force of
\ngravity. <\/p>\n
613
\n00:46:04,300 –> 00:46:09,600
\nWhat I hear you say or you could
\nsay that Newton invented gravity<\/p>\n
614
\n00:46:09,800 –> 00:46:14,100
\nthat is actually an accurate
\nstatement and it’s surprising at<\/p>\n
615
\n00:46:14,100 –> 00:46:17,100
\nfirst because we think, of
\ncourse, he didn’t invent it. <\/p>\n
616
\n00:46:17,100 –> 00:46:20,800
\nHe discovered it.
\nBut actually gravity is a <\/p>\n
617
\n00:46:20,800 –> 00:46:22,600
\nmathematical model as Newton
\ndid. <\/p>\n
618
\n00:46:22,600 –> 00:46:25,900
\nIt is a mathematical model that
\nneeded to be invented. <\/p>\n
619
\n00:46:26,100 –> 00:46:30,300
\nWhat we have is a set of
\nphenomena that if I hold <\/p>\n
620
\n00:46:30,300 –> 00:46:34,600
\nsomething and let go it will go
\nto the ground set a phenomena. <\/p>\n
621
\n00:46:34,700 –> 00:46:39,300
\nWhat Newton did was he said, oh
\nyou could you could see that as <\/p>\n
622
\n00:46:39,300 –> 00:46:43,500
\na force which is proportional to
\nthe mass of the object. <\/p>\n
623
\n00:46:43,900 –> 00:46:47,700
\nAnd so he constructed Newton’s
\ntheory of gravity as beautiful <\/p>\n
624
\n00:46:47,700 –> 00:46:50,800
\nTheory, it explained all sorts
\nof things about how the planets <\/p>\n
625
\n00:46:50,800 –> 00:46:53,500
\nworked and so on.
\nBut it was a model, it wasn’t <\/p>\n
626
\n00:46:53,500 –> 00:46:57,400
\nreality.
\nWe now know that there are flaws<\/p>\n
627
\n00:46:57,400 –> 00:47:00,400
\nin that model, it doesn’t
\nexplain How some of the planets <\/p>\n
628
\n00:47:00,400 –> 00:47:03,700
\nmove and Einstein got rid of
\nthat. <\/p>\n
629
\n00:47:03,700 –> 00:47:08,200
\nAnd said, here’s a different
\nmodel of how things move in the <\/p>\n
630
\n00:47:08,200 –> 00:47:11,200
\nuniverse.
\nIt’s because of curvature of <\/p>\n
631
\n00:47:11,300 –> 00:47:13,800
\nspace time.
\nAnd space time is this four <\/p>\n
632
\n00:47:13,800 –> 00:47:17,300
\ndimensional thing.
\nAnd it has curvature in it and <\/p>\n
633
\n00:47:17,300 –> 00:47:20,800
\ngravity fits in as things are
\nactually moving in a straight <\/p>\n
634
\n00:47:20,800 –> 00:47:27,900
\nline in space time.
\nBut that’s another model, it’s <\/p>\n
635
\n00:47:27,900 –> 00:47:30,700
\nnot reality.
\nThe reality are the individual <\/p>\n
636
\n00:47:30,700 –> 00:47:32,400
\nthings.
\nThe models are ways of <\/p>\n
637
\n00:47:32,400 –> 00:47:35,200
\nexplaining in.
\nThe reason I say this is that <\/p>\n
638
\n00:47:35,200 –> 00:47:39,500
\nour sense of separation from
\none, another is a model of <\/p>\n
639
\n00:47:39,500 –> 00:47:43,000
\nreality.
\nIt is not actually reality <\/p>\n
640
\n00:47:43,000 –> 00:47:45,300
\nitself.
\nWe are. <\/p>\n
641
\n00:47:45,500 –> 00:47:48,200
\nAnd it’s a, it’s a model of
\nreality. <\/p>\n
642
\n00:47:48,400 –> 00:47:51,800
\nThat when you examine it, you
\nstart to see flaws in it, you <\/p>\n
643
\n00:47:51,800 –> 00:47:55,600
\nstart to see failures in it.
\nAnd Actually a model of reality <\/p>\n
644
\n00:47:55,700 –> 00:47:59,800
\nthat creates suffering.
\nIt is probably the primary cause<\/p>\n
645
\n00:47:59,800 –> 00:48:04,200
\nof suffering in this world.
\nIs this model of reality that <\/p>\n
646
\n00:48:04,200 –> 00:48:08,000
\nsays I am separate from you so
\nmuch more. <\/p>\n
647
\n00:48:08,000 –> 00:48:14,100
\nLike we’re waves on the sea That
\ncome into being and that move <\/p>\n
648
\n00:48:14,100 –> 00:48:18,600
\nfor a while and then pass out of
\nbeing an each wave actually <\/p>\n
649
\n00:48:19,000 –> 00:48:22,500
\ninteracts and evokes.
\nOther ways, you can’t just take <\/p>\n
650
\n00:48:22,500 –> 00:48:26,200
\na single wave, get rid of all
\nthe other waves and think that <\/p>\n
651
\n00:48:26,200 –> 00:48:31,700
\nthat wave will continue.
\nWaves are part of a whole that <\/p>\n
652
\n00:48:31,700 –> 00:48:37,400
\nare connected below the surface.
\nI have no independent existence <\/p>\n
653
\n00:48:37,600 –> 00:48:40,600
\nfrom you and we know lots of
\nscripture about it was so short <\/p>\n
654
\n00:48:40,600 –> 00:48:44,800
\non time, I hardly can go there.
\n1 Corinthians 12, you’re the <\/p>\n
655
\n00:48:44,800 –> 00:48:48,500
\nbody of Christ.
\nWe’re all part of it. <\/p>\n
656
\n00:48:48,600 –> 00:48:52,300
\nWhat Paul is trying to do is to
\ngive us a different mental <\/p>\n
657
\n00:48:52,300 –> 00:48:55,500
\nmodel.
\nHe says, don’t have this idea of<\/p>\n
658
\n00:48:55,500 –> 00:48:59,400
\nyourself as an individual.
\nThat is Separate from one <\/p>\n
659
\n00:48:59,400 –> 00:49:04,200
\nanother, take on Instead, This
\nalternative model, which is that<\/p>\n
660
\n00:49:04,200 –> 00:49:08,800
\nwe are a single body, the
\ncollectively we are Christ. <\/p>\n
661
\n00:49:10,800 –> 00:49:13,600
\nAnd now I’m this portion of
\nChrist and you’re that portion <\/p>\n
662
\n00:49:13,600 –> 00:49:16,100
\nof Christ and so on just you see
\nwhat I’m saying? <\/p>\n
663
\n00:49:16,100 –> 00:49:19,900
\nHe’s trying to shift the way
\nthat we think about ourselves. <\/p>\n
664
\n00:49:20,800 –> 00:49:26,500
\nI am a rock, I am an island that
\nsong is pain. <\/p>\n
665
\n00:49:26,600 –> 00:49:35,100
\nHe knows he is not Where I end
\nand where you begin is a <\/p>\n
666
\n00:49:35,107 –> 00:49:39,600
\nconstruct of my mind.
\nAnd through deep examination, I <\/p>\n
667
\n00:49:39,600 –> 00:49:43,500
\ncome to see that and again, as I
\ncome to see it and the Light of <\/p>\n
668
\n00:49:43,500 –> 00:49:48,300
\nChrist shines upon it, it has
\nprofound impact on me. <\/p>\n
669
\n00:49:48,900 –> 00:49:52,400
\nLet’s look at John 17.
\nJust as our final scripture, <\/p>\n
670
\n00:49:53,200 –> 00:49:56,300
\nthis is what Jesus was trying to
\nconvey. <\/p>\n
671
\n00:49:56,400 –> 00:50:00,500
\nSo eagerly to them, you know,
\nwhen this prayer John 17 was <\/p>\n
672
\n00:50:00,500 –> 00:50:04,300
\ngiven it was after the last
\nUpper that had the Last Supper <\/p>\n
673
\n00:50:04,400 –> 00:50:08,200
\nhe’d been giving all sorts of
\nteaching about the vine and the <\/p>\n
674
\n00:50:08,200 –> 00:50:11,700
\nbranches, and the comforter, and
\nthen had the him, they’d left <\/p>\n
675
\n00:50:11,700 –> 00:50:14,500
\nthe upper room, and they’re
\nwalking through through <\/p>\n
676
\n00:50:14,500 –> 00:50:18,300
\nJerusalem, and they’re coming
\ndown to the kedron river and <\/p>\n
677
\n00:50:18,300 –> 00:50:21,400
\nmaybe it was at the shore of the
\nkedron river, and after this <\/p>\n
678
\n00:50:21,400 –> 00:50:23,800
\nprayer, he’s going to cross the
\nriver with his disciples. <\/p>\n
679
\n00:50:23,800 –> 00:50:26,000
\nThey’re going to go up to the
\nMount of Olives and he’s going <\/p>\n
680
\n00:50:26,000 –> 00:50:32,200
\nto now spend three hours in
\nmeditative prayer about in the <\/p>\n
681
\n00:50:32,300 –> 00:50:35,600
\nGarden of Gethsemane.
\nThis is his prayer at that <\/p>\n
682
\n00:50:35,600 –> 00:50:38,600
\npoint.
\nThis is the longest prayer Jesus<\/p>\n
683
\n00:50:38,600 –> 00:50:41,400
\never gives us the theme of this
\nprayer. <\/p>\n
684
\n00:50:42,300 –> 00:50:48,100
\nUnity and I don’t mean unity in
\nterms of documents and you know <\/p>\n
685
\n00:50:48,100 –> 00:50:52,700
\nfinally sort of I mean he’s
\ntalking about real deep you can <\/p>\n
686
\n00:50:52,700 –> 00:51:00,000
\nfeel it in your bones Unity
\nverse 11 last phrase so that <\/p>\n
687
\n00:51:00,000 –> 00:51:06,200
\nthey may be one.
\nAs we are one verse 21 that all <\/p>\n
688
\n00:51:06,200 –> 00:51:09,400
\nof them may be one.
\nFather, just as you are in me <\/p>\n
689
\n00:51:09,400 –> 00:51:13,500
\nand I am in you.
\nIt’s an interconnectedness end <\/p>\n
690
\n00:51:13,500 –> 00:51:18,000
\nof verse 22 that they may be one
\nas we are one verse 23. <\/p>\n
691
\n00:51:18,000 –> 00:51:20,700
\nMay they be brought to complete
\nUnity? <\/p>\n
692
\n00:51:22,800 –> 00:51:28,600
\nThis is the idea that Jesus is
\nwanting us to take on, its <\/p>\n
693
\n00:51:28,600 –> 00:51:32,600
\nwondering, as to lay aside, this
\nnotion that I am a separate <\/p>\n
694
\n00:51:32,600 –> 00:51:38,400
\nbeing from you. and accept that
\nI am part of a much greater <\/p>\n
695
\n00:51:38,400 –> 00:51:41,600
\nwhole and that I’m connected
\nwith you. <\/p>\n
696
\n00:51:43,300 –> 00:51:45,800
\nMake me one with everything.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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