Class 6 from Bro. Darren Tappouras\u2019s series on \u201cLooking Forward to the Judgement Seat\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n
Class 4 from this series was used for GCT Episode 048.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n
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\nSo the end of the marathon
\nreally, isn’t it? <\/p>\n
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\nThe last session of the camp
\nsort of sad in many ways, but <\/p>\n
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\nI’m happy that my voice is sort
\nof held out, so that’s been, <\/p>\n
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\nit’s been one.
\nGood thing. <\/p>\n
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\nI was getting a bit worried
\nthere for a while. <\/p>\n
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\nOne of the objectives of our
\nstudy together over this week is<\/p>\n
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\nto be is to reconcile a number
\nof different things that are <\/p>\n
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\npresented to us about the
\nJudgment seat and to try and <\/p>\n
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\nbring them together in a way
\nthat makes sense of both verses <\/p>\n
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\neven though they might seem this
\nparrot, initially, we’ve tried <\/p>\n
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\nto reconcile, the idea of a
\nquick recognition process at the<\/p>\n
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\nJudgment seat with a more
\ndetailed account. <\/p>\n
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\nBoth of those Concepts have
\nscripture behind them and <\/p>\n
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\nParables to support them.
\nI’ll try to sort of bring them <\/p>\n
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\ntogether in a way that that
\nmakes sense of both. <\/p>\n
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\nOther aspects like our reward.
\nIn one instance a reward is all <\/p>\n
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\nequal like illustrating the
\nparable of the field, the penny <\/p>\n
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\na day and then there are other
\nlittle references in scripture <\/p>\n
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\nand this whole sort of body of
\nevidence that indicates that our<\/p>\n
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\nreward is proportional.
\nWe’ve tried to reconcile those <\/p>\n
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\nthings as well.
\nNow this morning as a little <\/p>\n
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\nexercise before we move on to
\ntheir final session. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’re going to try and reconcile
\nthese verses both of them <\/p>\n
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\nwritten by Paul.
\nBut The surface, they seem to <\/p>\n
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\ncontradict each other and yet
\nthey’re really at the very, the <\/p>\n
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\nvery heart of understanding.
\nI believe the whole purpose of <\/p>\n
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\nthe Judgment seat in our
\nsalvation and what’s involved <\/p>\n
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\nwith it.
\nSo we got these two versus one <\/p>\n
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\nis second Timothy 4.
\nAnd it’s a verse. <\/p>\n
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\nWe all know this one very well,
\nwhere Paul expresses his <\/p>\n
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\nabsolute confidence.
\nThere is no doubt, not a scary <\/p>\n
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\ncovered out in that verse that
\nhe will be in the kingdom and he<\/p>\n
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\nsays, I have fought the good
\nfight. <\/p>\n
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\nI have finished.
\nMy course, I have kept the <\/p>\n
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\nfaith.
\nFaith henceforth. <\/p>\n
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\nThere is laid up for me, a crown
\nof righteousness. <\/p>\n
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\nSo there’s that absolute
\nconfidence there. <\/p>\n
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\nNow, when I asked this at my own
\nocclusion said, well how do we <\/p>\n
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\nreconcile these verses some of
\nthe Brethren said? <\/p>\n
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\nWell, second Timothy is right at
\nthe end of his life, so that may<\/p>\n
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\nbe why he’s so confident there
\nand not as confident in the <\/p>\n
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\nother one will look at in a
\nmoment. <\/p>\n
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\nBut again, that is that really
\nlogical and that’s that really <\/p>\n
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\nexplain the disparity sort of
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\nThe judge was, it is that mean
\nthat at some stage of our life <\/p>\n
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\nwe can be absolutely.
\nIn confident in others. <\/p>\n
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\nNot so confident doesn’t really
\nanswer the question and also <\/p>\n
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\nwider than just himself even <\/p>\n
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\nthough he might be at the end of
\nhis life, he says he’s <\/p>\n
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\nabsolutely confidence in himself
\nbut also it says which the Lord,<\/p>\n
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\nthe righteous judge shall give
\nme at that day and not to me <\/p>\n
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\nonly but unto all them that love
\nhis appearing. <\/p>\n
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\nSo he broadens that that’s that
\nconfidence level to a whole lot <\/p>\n
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\nof people not just himself, and
\nthe over in First Corinthians <\/p>\n
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\nfor which we did touch on a
\nlittle bit. <\/p>\n
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\nYes, They not it.
\nNot a great deal. <\/p>\n
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\nPaul expresses this reality that
\nhe doesn’t even judge himself. <\/p>\n
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\nHe says I don’t even judge
\nmyself. <\/p>\n
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\nHe says even though I think like
\nI think I’ve done the right <\/p>\n
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\nthing, I don’t know any
\nparticular aspect which I’ve <\/p>\n
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\nsort of deliberately done the
\nwrong thing. <\/p>\n
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\nHe says, I’m not even going to
\njudge myself. <\/p>\n
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\nHe says, for I know nothing by
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\nmyself.
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\nthat they’re all right, because
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\nAnd think, well, there he is
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\nthe right decision with John
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\nhad that fight with Barnabas, he
\nmay be wrong that he doesn’t <\/p>\n
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\nknow in these things could
\naffect his, the outcome of the <\/p>\n
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\nI ran.
\nAs soon as one of the most <\/p>\n
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\nmarvelous and insights into the,
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\nwrong. <\/p>\n
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\nThings I do, I don’t want to do
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\nDo we experience, singing <\/p>\n
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\nexperienced all those things
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\none verse absolute confidence,
\nthe other one, I don’t really <\/p>\n
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\nknow until the judge appears.
\nNow I’m going to throw it open <\/p>\n
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\nto you guys who wants to maybe
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\nThe Camp’s got to finish
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\nAt why he would have that, he
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\nHe from that, he had absolute
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\nBut all those who, I came and
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\nalmost a given. <\/p>\n
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\nIf you, if he, if you’re a, if
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\nthat.
\nHowever, the second stage where <\/p>\n
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\nwe do give account of our life,
\nwhere our motives are opened up <\/p>\n
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\nand the two-edged sword Cuts us
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\nOkay, cool.
\nSo that that I think brings our <\/p>\n
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\nNow, we’d be all happy. <\/p>\n
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\nSo, I suppose that the question
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\nlittle bit academic and in my <\/p>\n
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\nstudies, and comparing things
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\nWords, you think we’ll how does
\nit apply to me? <\/p>\n
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\nBeing part of those all those
\nthat Express their by Paul that <\/p>\n
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\nwill receive a crown of
\nrighteousness. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I suspect that many of us
\nand I think we already have you <\/p>\n
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\nguys here have sort of had a
\npretty similar upbringing to me,<\/p>\n
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\nas I’ve had.
\nAnd if that is the case, I’m <\/p>\n
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\nMany of us feel deep down on <\/p>\n
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\ntheir press, that We find it
\nhard to use those words in an <\/p>\n
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\nI remember this is, this is one <\/p>\n
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\nexperiences of my life that sort<\/p>\n
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\nof led me down this road.
\nThere’s been a few and I’ll <\/p>\n
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\nmention some of them as we go.
\nBut one of them was many many <\/p>\n
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\nyears ago, and I was young and
\nskinny, and all that sort of <\/p>\n
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\nI was on a committee organizing <\/p>\n
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\nyoung marrieds week.
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\nyou remember that, and was
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\nHe never really spoken else or <\/p>\n
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\nbefore. <\/p>\n
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\nSo we sort of got him to fly
\nover and delete these studies. <\/p>\n
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\nBecause I was always on the
\norganizing committee, I had the <\/p>\n
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\nprivilege of sort of picking him
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\nhaving a discussion with him and
\nbelieve it or not, and I’m not <\/p>\n
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\nmaking this up and see my notes
\nfrom my previous talks, he’d <\/p>\n
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\njust been in Perth.
\nSo I’m not having a go at you <\/p>\n
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\nguys, anyway.
\nIt’s just how it all panned out.<\/p>\n
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\nNo, that’s really bad. <\/p>\n
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\n00:17:32,400 –> 00:17:36,100
\nIt means what is shares of you.
\nBut you just try to imagine how <\/p>\n
335
\n00:17:36,100 –> 00:17:41,200
\nhe just It means what it says.
\nThe Lord knows that nobody walks<\/p>\n
336
\n00:17:41,200 –> 00:17:44,500
\nperfectly after this after the
\nspirit and at some of us are at <\/p>\n
337
\n00:17:44,500 –> 00:17:48,200
\ntimes affected by the flesh but
\nthere is still no condemnation. <\/p>\n
338
\n00:17:48,800 –> 00:17:53,000
\nInteresting concept I know that
\nsometimes we look at that verse <\/p>\n
339
\n00:17:53,400 –> 00:17:57,700
\nand the possibility of the
\npossibility is that people say <\/p>\n
340
\n00:17:57,900 –> 00:18:00,200
\nwait just a second.
\nIt’s not as easy as that. <\/p>\n
341
\n00:18:00,800 –> 00:18:02,800
\nThe bit at the end says those
\nwho walk not after the flesh. <\/p>\n
342
\n00:18:02,800 –> 00:18:05,600
\nBut after the spirit it doesn’t
\nmean what it says and you’re <\/p>\n
343
\n00:18:05,600 –> 00:18:08,100
\nonly out of condemnation when
\nyou Walk after the spirit and <\/p>\n
344
\n00:18:08,100 –> 00:18:11,600
\nyour inclination, we walk after
\nthe flesh, he said, which case <\/p>\n
345
\n00:18:11,900 –> 00:18:14,100
\nyou take that like in a literal
\nsense, which case you’re <\/p>\n
346
\n00:18:14,100 –> 00:18:17,000
\nconstantly red and green, you
\ncan’t, you’re changing color. <\/p>\n
347
\n00:18:17,000 –> 00:18:19,400
\nAll the time, you’re moving from
\none place to another. <\/p>\n
348
\n00:18:19,900 –> 00:18:23,200
\nI’ve got stuff.
\nOkay, I just so passionate <\/p>\n
349
\n00:18:23,200 –> 00:18:25,200
\nabout, but you can see what he’s
\nsaying is like, if that’s the, <\/p>\n
350
\n00:18:25,400 –> 00:18:29,300
\nthat’s the that’s where L works.
\nYou know, in one day I could, <\/p>\n
351
\n00:18:29,300 –> 00:18:31,800
\nyou know, come over and work a
\nbit angry and kick the dog and <\/p>\n
352
\n00:18:32,000 –> 00:18:34,300
\nyell at the kids.
\nAnd then, I’m the angel, turns <\/p>\n
353
\n00:18:34,300 –> 00:18:36,200
\nout I’m gone.
\nThen I’d do the readings later <\/p>\n
354
\n00:18:36,200 –> 00:18:38,900
\non or whatever, and It sort of
\ndoesn’t work like that. <\/p>\n
355
\n00:18:40,100 –> 00:18:43,200
\nHe says now, Romans 8 doesn’t
\nsay that it says who shall lay <\/p>\n
356
\n00:18:43,200 –> 00:18:44,600
\nanything to the charge of God’s
\nelect. <\/p>\n
357
\n00:18:44,600 –> 00:18:48,600
\nSo there isn’t a charge against
\nus at all, no charger, all God, <\/p>\n
358
\n00:18:48,600 –> 00:18:50,600
\ndoesn’t work that way.
\nHe doesn’t work on a debit and <\/p>\n
359
\n00:18:50,600 –> 00:18:53,900
\ncredit method at all.
\nHe’s working on those who are in<\/p>\n
360
\n00:18:54,100 –> 00:18:58,600
\nChrist Jesus and since Christ is
\nnot condemned, the Saints are <\/p>\n
361
\n00:18:58,600 –> 00:19:01,100
\nnot condemned.
\nWe don’t have to go through life<\/p>\n
362
\n00:19:01,100 –> 00:19:05,300
\nwith his terrifying fear.
\nNow this this concept in here <\/p>\n
363
\n00:19:05,300 –> 00:19:08,400
\non, we’re all aware of the
\nconcepts, but have we made these<\/p>\n
364
\n00:19:08,400 –> 00:19:10,800
\nConcepts real, this is this is
\nwhere we’re going to go this <\/p>\n
365
\n00:19:10,800 –> 00:19:12,500
\nmorning.
\nMaybe seems real, we are in <\/p>\n
366
\n00:19:12,500 –> 00:19:14,200
\nChrist.
\nTherefore, there’s no <\/p>\n
367
\n00:19:14,200 –> 00:19:17,400
\ncondemnation, not, because I’m
\nwalking after the spirit <\/p>\n
368
\n00:19:17,400 –> 00:19:21,100
\nconsistently and achieving some
\nFaith level that it’s because <\/p>\n
369
\n00:19:21,100 –> 00:19:23,400
\nI’m in Christ.
\nChrist is not condemned and I’m <\/p>\n
370
\n00:19:23,400 –> 00:19:26,100
\nnot condemned and it really is
\njust the christadelphians <\/p>\n
371
\n00:19:26,100 –> 00:19:29,300
\ndoctrine of the atonement.
\nNo more than that put in simple <\/p>\n
372
\n00:19:29,300 –> 00:19:32,800
\nwords.
\nAnd, and this is, this is Is <\/p>\n
373
\n00:19:32,800 –> 00:19:34,400
\nthis a reality?
\nIs this true? <\/p>\n
374
\n00:19:34,400 –> 00:19:35,900
\nOr is it not?
\nAnd I think that’s that’s what <\/p>\n
375
\n00:19:35,900 –> 00:19:38,400
\nwe got to sort of come to grips
\nwith a narrow mind. <\/p>\n
376
\n00:19:39,600 –> 00:19:42,000
\nNow a lot of us are going to
\nsaying yes, I get that, it seems<\/p>\n
377
\n00:19:42,000 –> 00:19:43,600
\ntrue.
\nIt’s there’s a lot of power in <\/p>\n
378
\n00:19:43,600 –> 00:19:46,900
\nthat.
\nBut but what about what about? <\/p>\n
379
\n00:19:46,900 –> 00:19:49,800
\nAnd there’s all these verses are
\ngoing to go flash up in your <\/p>\n
380
\n00:19:49,800 –> 00:19:53,400
\nmind as you’re sitting here now,
\nand this morning, I look at some<\/p>\n
381
\n00:19:53,400 –> 00:19:55,500
\nof those verses as I said, it’s
\ngoing to be very quick and just <\/p>\n
382
\n00:19:55,500 –> 00:19:58,800
\ngoing to quickly throw up some
\nsort of quick answers to these <\/p>\n
383
\n00:19:58,800 –> 00:20:00,900
\nverses.
\nIf you like, if you want to get <\/p>\n
384
\n00:20:00,900 –> 00:20:03,500
\nthe paper that goes through, any
\nmore detail with references to <\/p>\n
385
\n00:20:03,500 –> 00:20:07,200
\nother Brethren Etc than you’re,
\nwelcome to get that awful eyes <\/p>\n
386
\n00:20:07,200 –> 00:20:08,500
\nor whatever one night when I
\nsend it over. <\/p>\n
387
\n00:20:08,500 –> 00:20:12,500
\nBut But for now we’ll just
\nquickly put them up as we run <\/p>\n
388
\n00:20:12,500 –> 00:20:14,500
\nthrough them.
\nSo this is, this is brother, <\/p>\n
389
\n00:20:14,600 –> 00:20:17,400
\nbrother.
\nTenants, very nice Exposition on<\/p>\n
390
\n00:20:17,400 –> 00:20:20,500
\nit and he focuses on this idea
\nof being in. <\/p>\n
391
\n00:20:21,200 –> 00:20:26,200
\nYou are in Christ.
\nAnd this is really I think at <\/p>\n
392
\n00:20:26,200 –> 00:20:30,700
\nthe very, very Crux of of what’s
\nbeen achieved here, we are in <\/p>\n
393
\n00:20:30,800 –> 00:20:35,500
\nChrist now.
\nIt’s not just brother tenant <\/p>\n
394
\n00:20:35,500 –> 00:20:39,600
\nthat says this, but there’s many
\nof our our Brethren written <\/p>\n
395
\n00:20:39,600 –> 00:20:43,800
\nabout Sort of issue and usually
\nwritten on it in the lofty terms<\/p>\n
396
\n00:20:43,800 –> 00:20:46,700
\nof the atonement and God’s
\nscheme of reconciliation. <\/p>\n
397
\n00:20:46,700 –> 00:20:49,600
\nSo it’s written in such a way
\nthat it almost has a theoretical<\/p>\n
398
\n00:20:49,600 –> 00:20:55,000
\naspect to it that that we find
\nit hard to apply to reality and <\/p>\n
399
\n00:20:55,000 –> 00:20:57,800
\nyou know the best exposition of
\nit I’ve come across is that <\/p>\n
400
\n00:20:57,800 –> 00:21:01,600
\nusing a rally in the Thomases
\nwriting in part? <\/p>\n
401
\n00:21:01,600 –> 00:21:03,700
\nThe first developers is real,
\nthere’s a section there called <\/p>\n
402
\n00:21:03,900 –> 00:21:06,000
\nthe constitution of sin.
\nAnd another one called the <\/p>\n
403
\n00:21:06,008 –> 00:21:09,500
\nconstitution of righteousness
\nand brother Thomas makes this <\/p>\n
404
\n00:21:09,800 –> 00:21:13,400
\nreally powerful point.
\nAnd he says it’s like in his <\/p>\n
405
\n00:21:13,400 –> 00:21:16,600
\ncase he flies his own case of
\nwhen you move from the United <\/p>\n
406
\n00:21:16,600 –> 00:21:18,400
\nStates, we use moved from
\nEngland. <\/p>\n
407
\n00:21:18,400 –> 00:21:20,900
\nYou’re a citizen of England.
\nAnd then when you want to live <\/p>\n
408
\n00:21:20,900 –> 00:21:23,100
\nin America, you get a new
\npassport, you become a citizen <\/p>\n
409
\n00:21:23,100 –> 00:21:27,000
\nof a, of a whole new regime.
\nAnd a whole new set of <\/p>\n
410
\n00:21:27,900 –> 00:21:30,900
\ncircumstances, all the
\nPrivileges that apply to you. <\/p>\n
411
\n00:21:30,900 –> 00:21:33,600
\nAs a citizen, are yours by
\nvirtue of the fact that you’ve <\/p>\n
412
\n00:21:33,600 –> 00:21:37,800
\ntransferred to this new realm if
\nyou like and just, I’ve just <\/p>\n
413
\n00:21:37,800 –> 00:21:41,100
\npicked out a couple of sentences
\nhere says There are two states <\/p>\n
414
\n00:21:41,100 –> 00:21:43,600
\nor Kingdoms in God’s
\nArrangements. <\/p>\n
415
\n00:21:43,600 –> 00:21:46,400
\nThere are two kingdoms that
\nexist which are distinguished by<\/p>\n
416
\n00:21:46,400 –> 00:21:49,500
\nConstitution.
\nThese are the kingdom of Satan <\/p>\n
417
\n00:21:49,800 –> 00:21:53,000
\nand the kingdom of God, the
\ncitizens of the former are all <\/p>\n
418
\n00:21:53,000 –> 00:21:55,200
\nsinners.
\nThe Heirs of the ladder are <\/p>\n
419
\n00:21:55,200 –> 00:21:58,000
\nSaints.
\nThis is getting closer to the <\/p>\n
420
\n00:21:58,000 –> 00:22:00,600
\npoint.
\nWe are Saints because of we have<\/p>\n
421
\n00:22:00,600 –> 00:22:04,500
\ntransferred our membership with
\ntransferred our citizenship into<\/p>\n
422
\n00:22:04,500 –> 00:22:07,200
\nanother realm.
\nNow, how do we, how does this <\/p>\n
423
\n00:22:07,200 –> 00:22:09,300
\ntransfer?
\nTake place, does it only happen?<\/p>\n
424
\n00:22:09,800 –> 00:22:13,300
\nYou know, we get baptized and as
\nI said our first session baptism<\/p>\n
425
\n00:22:13,300 –> 00:22:16,500
\ngives you qualifies you to sort
\nof get into the game. <\/p>\n
426
\n00:22:16,600 –> 00:22:19,800
\nAnd then after baptism, we then
\ngot to achieve something or <\/p>\n
427
\n00:22:19,800 –> 00:22:22,400
\nreach some sort of spiritual
\nmaturity before the transfer <\/p>\n
428
\n00:22:22,400 –> 00:22:24,700
\nhappens.
\nWell that’s not the case. <\/p>\n
429
\n00:22:25,400 –> 00:22:28,800
\nHe says, Mark the sacred style
\nand description of Sinners, the <\/p>\n
430
\n00:22:28,808 –> 00:22:31,500
\nscript descriptive of Sinners,
\nafter they’ve been placed on the<\/p>\n
431
\n00:22:31,508 –> 00:22:33,700
\nconstitution of Israel’s
\nCommonwealth, which is the <\/p>\n
432
\n00:22:33,708 –> 00:22:37,200
\nkingdom of God.
\nYour that were far off, are made<\/p>\n
433
\n00:22:37,200 –> 00:22:40,100
\nnigh by the blood of Christ this
\napplies to us. <\/p>\n
434
\n00:22:40,100 –> 00:22:46,700
\nNow you that through him, you
\nhave access by one Spirit to the<\/p>\n
435
\n00:22:46,700 –> 00:22:49,200
\nfather and a No More Strangers
\nand foreigners but <\/p>\n
436
\n00:22:49,200 –> 00:22:52,600
\nfellow-citizens with the Saints
\nand of the household of god, <\/p>\n
437
\n00:22:52,800 –> 00:22:55,700
\nfellow heirs and of the same
\nbody partakers of God’s promises<\/p>\n
438
\n00:22:55,700 –> 00:23:00,000
\nin Christ by the gospel.
\nAnd this is going to be the this<\/p>\n
439
\n00:23:00,000 –> 00:23:01,500
\nis the mechanism that this
\nhappens. <\/p>\n
440
\n00:23:01,500 –> 00:23:03,500
\nThe gospel.
\nWhat is Romans 1? <\/p>\n
441
\n00:23:03,500 –> 00:23:07,400
\nTell us about the gospel.
\nIs the power of God. <\/p>\n
442
\n00:23:07,400 –> 00:23:10,100
\nThe Juno us.
\nIt’s the power of God unto what <\/p>\n
443
\n00:23:10,300 –> 00:23:12,200
\nunto salvation.
\nIt’s the mechanism. <\/p>\n
444
\n00:23:12,200 –> 00:23:16,200
\nThe gospel is like a power, a
\nforce that that leads us to <\/p>\n
445
\n00:23:16,200 –> 00:23:21,800
\nSalvation, And he says, by being
\npartakers of God’s promises in <\/p>\n
446
\n00:23:21,800 –> 00:23:24,400
\nChrist by the gospel.
\nHe says, in this remarkable <\/p>\n
447
\n00:23:24,400 –> 00:23:27,700
\ncontrast is discoverable a great
\nchange in state and character <\/p>\n
448
\n00:23:27,900 –> 00:23:31,100
\npredicted of the same persons.
\nHow is this transformation <\/p>\n
449
\n00:23:31,100 –> 00:23:33,100
\naffected?
\nHis question is answered by the <\/p>\n
450
\n00:23:33,100 –> 00:23:37,500
\nphrase in Christ.
\nJust by the gospel and the in <\/p>\n
451
\n00:23:37,900 –> 00:23:41,500
\nexpresses, the states and the by
\nthe instrumentality, by which <\/p>\n
452
\n00:23:41,500 –> 00:23:45,600
\nthe state and character changed
\nin Christ, is the is a weight <\/p>\n
453
\n00:23:45,600 –> 00:23:50,400
\nhappens by the gospel, is the
\ninstrumentality of that process.<\/p>\n
454
\n00:23:51,000 –> 00:23:53,600
\nNow, again, theoretically,
\nnotice we’ve been at many of us <\/p>\n
455
\n00:23:53,600 –> 00:23:55,900
\nhave done elpis Israel, and
\nothers are all classes and <\/p>\n
456
\n00:23:56,500 –> 00:23:57,900
\nmarked all these in and looked
\nit up. <\/p>\n
457
\n00:23:57,900 –> 00:24:02,400
\nBut I’m trying to get us now to
\nsay, well, if this is real, how <\/p>\n
458
\n00:24:02,400 –> 00:24:05,000
\ndoes it apply to me and is it
\nreal to me? <\/p>\n
459
\n00:24:06,600 –> 00:24:09,200
\nAnd so in that little article,
\ndr. <\/p>\n
460
\n00:24:09,200 –> 00:24:12,500
\nThomas says this inward is
\nreally the key to it being in <\/p>\n
461
\n00:24:12,500 –> 00:24:14,700
\nChrist.
\nIt’s exactly what other tenants <\/p>\n
462
\n00:24:14,700 –> 00:24:17,600
\nthat as well.
\nThis idea of been in, we are in <\/p>\n
463
\n00:24:17,600 –> 00:24:21,500
\nand it’s a little metaphor in a
\nword picture and a concept that <\/p>\n
464
\n00:24:21,500 –> 00:24:23,700
\nruns through scripture.
\nThere’s lots of n examples. <\/p>\n
465
\n00:24:23,700 –> 00:24:27,300
\nWe could talk about Romans 8,
\nthose that are in Christ. <\/p>\n
466
\n00:24:27,300 –> 00:24:29,800
\nAre not condemned.
\nGenesis 7. <\/p>\n
467
\n00:24:29,800 –> 00:24:32,800
\nThey went into the ark and by
\nvery virtue of the fact that <\/p>\n
468
\n00:24:32,800 –> 00:24:35,400
\nwent into that Ark, they were
\nsaved. <\/p>\n
469
\n00:24:36,800 –> 00:24:41,200
\nIn the Passover story, they had
\nto stay in the house and that <\/p>\n
470
\n00:24:41,200 –> 00:24:44,000
\nhouse was then protected by the
\nblood of the Lamb. <\/p>\n
471
\n00:24:44,000 –> 00:24:47,200
\nSo they’ll in that house and
\nreceive the benefits of being in<\/p>\n
472
\n00:24:47,200 –> 00:24:49,200
\nthere.
\nColossians 1. <\/p>\n
473
\n00:24:49,800 –> 00:24:53,100
\nThis is this, the an amazing
\nconcept that we sort of can <\/p>\n
474
\n00:24:53,100 –> 00:24:57,100
\nglibly read over.
\nSometimes that we are now now, <\/p>\n
475
\n00:24:57,100 –> 00:25:00,700
\ntransferred into.
\nIt says, it says translated in <\/p>\n
476
\n00:25:00,708 –> 00:25:03,300
\nMay in the authorized.
\nWhile the idea we’ve transferred<\/p>\n
477
\n00:25:03,600 –> 00:25:07,300
\ninto the kingdom of God.
\nRight now, the king of Exists in<\/p>\n
478
\n00:25:07,300 –> 00:25:11,900
\na particular form and and it’s
\nan embryonic form, but that is <\/p>\n
479
\n00:25:11,900 –> 00:25:17,800
\nthe Ecclesia of God, the kingdom
\nof God in embryo. however, and <\/p>\n
480
\n00:25:17,800 –> 00:25:21,900
\nthis is where we part company
\nwith the Calvinists You can put <\/p>\n
481
\n00:25:21,900 –> 00:25:25,400
\nyourself outside by your
\nbehavior by your actions, by <\/p>\n
482
\n00:25:25,400 –> 00:25:28,600
\ndeliberate Choice, by accepting
\neven wrong doctor. <\/p>\n
483
\n00:25:28,600 –> 00:25:32,100
\nAnd you can put yourself outside
\nthat state, and there’s a whole <\/p>\n
484
\n00:25:32,100 –> 00:25:34,300
\nlot of out words that appear
\nright through scripture. <\/p>\n
485
\n00:25:34,300 –> 00:25:36,000
\nI’ve just picked a few of them
\nup here. <\/p>\n
486
\n00:25:36,800 –> 00:25:40,300
\nFirst, John 2 talks about those
\nwho were, who are accepting? <\/p>\n
487
\n00:25:40,300 –> 00:25:43,200
\nNo would appear.
\nGreek philosophical Concepts <\/p>\n
488
\n00:25:43,200 –> 00:25:46,300
\ninto the into their doctrines
\nthat says they went out from us <\/p>\n
489
\n00:25:46,900 –> 00:25:49,500
\nbecause they were not of us,
\nthey put themselves outside, <\/p>\n
490
\n00:25:50,200 –> 00:25:53,000
\nsome will depart From the faith,
\nis that we as gives it’s a <\/p>\n
491
\n00:25:53,000 –> 00:25:57,200
\nmovement word to describe.
\nThey’ve changed their position <\/p>\n
492
\n00:25:57,200 –> 00:26:02,800
\nbefore God.
\nSome of them could be other <\/p>\n
493
\n00:26:02,800 –> 00:26:04,600
\nfamous sick.
\nQuoting Galatians 1. <\/p>\n
494
\n00:26:04,600 –> 00:26:08,400
\nIt says they, we are removed
\nfrom from the truth unto another<\/p>\n
495
\n00:26:08,400 –> 00:26:11,500
\ngospel.
\nThe idea of rejecting a heretic <\/p>\n
496
\n00:26:11,500 –> 00:26:15,600
\nor a represent, one, who is sort
\nof left, the truth <\/p>\n
497
\n00:26:15,900 –> 00:26:19,600
\nintellectually and doctrinally
\nagain that the idea of moving <\/p>\n
498
\n00:26:19,600 –> 00:26:22,900
\nthem outside that state is
\nthere, and they’ve departed from<\/p>\n
499
\n00:26:22,900 –> 00:26:27,400
\nthe Living God by, going back to
\nJudaism, or going back to going <\/p>\n
500
\n00:26:27,400 –> 00:26:29,400
\nrelieving the truth and leaving
\nthe principles of the truth. <\/p>\n
501
\n00:26:29,400 –> 00:26:33,800
\nSo the idea of being In Christ
\nis a powerful thing and it’s <\/p>\n
502
\n00:26:34,300 –> 00:26:37,800
\nefficacious, it’s real, it’s
\ntrue, it’s effective in our life<\/p>\n
503
\n00:26:38,100 –> 00:26:39,900
\neffective in our in terms of
\nsalvation. <\/p>\n
504
\n00:26:40,000 –> 00:26:43,400
\nBut then we can put ourselves
\noutside that by our actions in <\/p>\n
505
\n00:26:43,400 –> 00:26:46,600
\nour life.
\nAnd this takes us back to the <\/p>\n
506
\n00:26:46,600 –> 00:26:49,600
\nidea, introduced on our, I
\nthink, our second session, the <\/p>\n
507
\n00:26:49,600 –> 00:26:53,300
\nidea that our names are in the
\nbook of life and that appears <\/p>\n
508
\n00:26:53,300 –> 00:26:56,600
\nfrom all the evidence and the
\nquotes we looked at to be the <\/p>\n
509
\n00:26:56,600 –> 00:27:00,300
\ndefault setting, when you are
\nbaptized, your name is in the <\/p>\n
510
\n00:27:00,300 –> 00:27:01,300
\nbook.
\nOf life. <\/p>\n
511
\n00:27:02,500 –> 00:27:05,500
\nThat is the default setting.
\nYes, your name can be removed <\/p>\n
512
\n00:27:05,700 –> 00:27:08,900
\nand there are many examples in
\nscripture of those whose name <\/p>\n
513
\n00:27:08,900 –> 00:27:12,300
\nwas removed from The Book of
\nLife, Judas, is a classic case, <\/p>\n
514
\n00:27:12,300 –> 00:27:16,900
\nJudas went out and put himself
\noutside that that the the <\/p>\n
515
\n00:27:16,900 –> 00:27:21,100
\ninfluence of the light that he
\nwas blessed to have the prodigal<\/p>\n
516
\n00:27:21,100 –> 00:27:24,000
\nson.
\nGoes out the closures in Ephesus<\/p>\n
517
\n00:27:24,000 –> 00:27:27,000
\nand later see when we’re moving
\nin that direction and about to <\/p>\n
518
\n00:27:27,000 –> 00:27:29,800
\nbe removed.
\nSo there’s this idea of our name<\/p>\n
519
\n00:27:29,800 –> 00:27:33,100
\nbeating the Book of Life
\ncorrelates The idea of being in <\/p>\n
520
\n00:27:33,100 –> 00:27:36,800
\nChrist doctrinally been in
\nChrist by accepting the gospel. <\/p>\n
521
\n00:27:37,700 –> 00:27:40,700
\nWhen you think about it, that
\nwas the basic message of the <\/p>\n
522
\n00:27:40,700 –> 00:27:41,700
\nApostles.
\nWasn’t it? <\/p>\n
523
\n00:27:42,300 –> 00:27:47,400
\nWhen the Phillipi Jailer says
\nsirs, what must I do to be saved<\/p>\n
524
\n00:27:48,000 –> 00:27:50,500
\nto be saved?
\nThat was a question I believe on<\/p>\n
525
\n00:27:50,500 –> 00:27:54,400
\nJesus Christ and be baptized you
\nand your household and you’ll be<\/p>\n
526
\n00:27:54,400 –> 00:27:56,900
\nsaved.
\nAnd that was a, that was a <\/p>\n
527
\n00:27:56,900 –> 00:27:59,100
\nsimple as it.
\nGot really not sense. <\/p>\n
528
\n00:28:00,200 –> 00:28:02,700
\nNow, this is we’re going to talk
\nabout then. <\/p>\n
529
\n00:28:04,400 –> 00:28:08,000
\nThe confusion we can have with
\nbeing saved by accepting the <\/p>\n
530
\n00:28:08,000 –> 00:28:12,100
\ngospel and the demand of
\nspiritual growth. <\/p>\n
531
\n00:28:12,200 –> 00:28:14,100
\nWe need to grow spiritually in
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
532
\n00:28:14,700 –> 00:28:17,100
\nAnd what we’ll talk about those
\nissues in a moment, in a moment.<\/p>\n
533
\n00:28:18,700 –> 00:28:22,800
\nHow many of us have this idea?
\nI’ve tried this graph. <\/p>\n
534
\n00:28:22,800 –> 00:28:26,300
\nIt here with these squiggly
\nlines that you know, we at <\/p>\n
535
\n00:28:26,300 –> 00:28:30,300
\nconversion or baptism we start
\nthis process and we as I said <\/p>\n
536
\n00:28:30,300 –> 00:28:34,700
\nit’s like we’re qualified to be
\nin the in the race and in our <\/p>\n
537
\n00:28:34,700 –> 00:28:36,900
\nlife we go through ups and
\ndowns. <\/p>\n
538
\n00:28:36,900 –> 00:28:40,400
\nMaybe and we have experiences
\nand growth and eventually we <\/p>\n
539
\n00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:45,800
\nreach this spiritual maturity.
\nSome called God manifestation or<\/p>\n
540
\n00:28:45,800 –> 00:28:49,200
\nwhatever you might call it
\nmaturity in Christ, \/ teleosts <\/p>\n
541
\n00:28:49,200 –> 00:28:52,900
\nor the different words in the
\nGreek, that cover that concept. <\/p>\n
542
\n00:28:53,700 –> 00:28:56,300
\nAnd it’s when we reach this
\nspiritual maturity, that we are <\/p>\n
543
\n00:28:56,300 –> 00:29:00,000
\nin the pale of Salvation, that
\nwe don’t know when we’ll get <\/p>\n
544
\n00:29:00,000 –> 00:29:02,300
\ninto it.
\nBut eventually we hopefully <\/p>\n
545
\n00:29:02,300 –> 00:29:05,200
\nthrough the grace of God, we
\ngrow in our life and we then end<\/p>\n
546
\n00:29:05,200 –> 00:29:07,600
\nup in the, in the pale
\nsalvation. <\/p>\n
547
\n00:29:08,400 –> 00:29:13,600
\nNow this this idea.
\nSeems to have intuitive support <\/p>\n
548
\n00:29:13,600 –> 00:29:15,700
\nfrom quotes.
\nLike you know James talks about <\/p>\n
549
\n00:29:16,500 –> 00:29:19,700
\nfaith without works is dead and
\nit gives the ultimate example of<\/p>\n
550
\n00:29:19,700 –> 00:29:22,900
\nAbraham offering Isaac will talk
\na little bit about Abraham and <\/p>\n
551
\n00:29:22,900 –> 00:29:26,400
\nmoment, you think, well, Abraham
\nreaches this absolute spiritual <\/p>\n
552
\n00:29:26,400 –> 00:29:30,300
\nmaturity, where he finally gets
\nto the point where he can take a<\/p>\n
553
\n00:29:30,308 –> 00:29:32,300
\nknife and slit the throat of his
\nown son. <\/p>\n
554
\n00:29:32,500 –> 00:29:37,900
\nThis is an absolute concrete
\nmaturity that that he got to. <\/p>\n
555
\n00:29:37,900 –> 00:29:43,400
\nAnd at that point it was, you
\nknow, Count on him for <\/p>\n
556
\n00:29:43,400 –> 00:29:45,400
\nrighteousness, but before that,
\nhe was only learning and <\/p>\n
557
\n00:29:45,400 –> 00:29:47,600
\ngrowing.
\nThat’s not quite that’s not <\/p>\n
558
\n00:29:47,600 –> 00:29:49,600
\nquite the spirit description
\nconcept. <\/p>\n
559
\n00:29:50,600 –> 00:29:53,700
\nSo we want to go from this idea
\nthat we sort of fall in and out <\/p>\n
560
\n00:29:53,700 –> 00:29:57,600
\nof Salvation to an idea that I
\nbelieve is more scriptural. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:29:58,300 –> 00:30:01,900
\nThat we are in that at baptism
\nand during that time we have ups<\/p>\n
562
\n00:30:01,900 –> 00:30:04,600
\nand downs in our life when we
\ngrow and we make mistakes and we<\/p>\n
563
\n00:30:04,600 –> 00:30:08,600
\ndevelop and we do achieve God,
\nwilling and our life spiritual <\/p>\n
564
\n00:30:08,600 –> 00:30:12,700
\nmaturity, but all within the
\nconfines of salvation, And a <\/p>\n
565
\n00:30:12,708 –> 00:30:15,900
\nspiritual journey is one of
\nfaith and growth. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:30:16,900 –> 00:30:21,800
\nAs Romans 1 says, you know from
\nFaith to Faith from one quality <\/p>\n
567
\n00:30:21,800 –> 00:30:24,900
\nof Faith, which might be just a
\nfaith of accepting the truth. <\/p>\n
568
\n00:30:24,900 –> 00:30:27,700
\nAnd being baptized to another
\nmore deeper level of faith. <\/p>\n
569
\n00:30:27,700 –> 00:30:31,600
\nThat is like, Abraham’s that he
\ncould even offer his own son, <\/p>\n
570
\n00:30:32,000 –> 00:30:34,500
\nit’s a journey.
\nBut the journey is done within <\/p>\n
571
\n00:30:35,100 –> 00:30:38,100
\nthe pale of Salvation, not
\ndropping in, and out of it. <\/p>\n
572
\n00:30:39,100 –> 00:30:41,100
\nAnd yes, there are Downs in that
\nprocess. <\/p>\n
573
\n00:30:41,900 –> 00:30:45,500
\nThere are times when we make
\nmistakes times that we regret <\/p>\n
574
\n00:30:45,500 –> 00:30:49,500
\nthings, we said stands, we might
\nhave even taken in a decade <\/p>\n
575
\n00:30:49,500 –> 00:30:52,000
\nprevious about an issue that we
\nreally wish we could go back in <\/p>\n
576
\n00:30:52,000 –> 00:30:54,700
\ntime.
\nAnd, and, and heal some things <\/p>\n
577
\n00:30:54,700 –> 00:30:59,200
\nwe’ve said and done, you know,
\nthese things are part of as I’ve<\/p>\n
578
\n00:30:59,200 –> 00:31:01,000
\nread that, I’ve written are from
\nHebrews 12. <\/p>\n
579
\n00:31:01,000 –> 00:31:04,300
\nThe chastisement of the Lord is
\nHebrews 12 says God, he’s <\/p>\n
580
\n00:31:04,300 –> 00:31:07,500
\nworking with his sons and he’s
\nallowing them to go through <\/p>\n
581
\n00:31:07,500 –> 00:31:10,000
\nthese problems in some You
\nbringing these problems <\/p>\n
582
\n00:31:10,000 –> 00:31:12,400
\ndirectly?
\nIt may be and and he’s allowing <\/p>\n
583
\n00:31:12,400 –> 00:31:16,000
\nthem to experience these things
\nbecause they’re all part of the <\/p>\n
584
\n00:31:16,000 –> 00:31:18,300
\ngrowth process.
\nLike, any Father and Son <\/p>\n
585
\n00:31:18,300 –> 00:31:22,100
\nrelationship, he’s disciplining
\nus and putting us through these <\/p>\n
586
\n00:31:22,100 –> 00:31:24,300
\nthings.
\nIt doesn’t mean that we in these<\/p>\n
587
\n00:31:24,300 –> 00:31:27,000
\nlow points.
\nWe fail to be his son. <\/p>\n
588
\n00:31:27,100 –> 00:31:30,000
\nThat doesn’t make sense of the
\nwhole father-son relationships <\/p>\n
589
\n00:31:30,000 –> 00:31:31,900
\nbecause of son goes through a
\nbad patch. <\/p>\n
590
\n00:31:31,900 –> 00:31:34,800
\nIsn’t you’re not my son anymore?
\nThat doesn’t that doesn’t, that <\/p>\n
591
\n00:31:34,800 –> 00:31:38,400
\ndoesn’t work on any level and it
\ndoesn’t work when it comes to <\/p>\n
592
\n00:31:38,400 –> 00:31:39,200
\nSalvation.
\nAtion. <\/p>\n
593
\n00:31:40,200 –> 00:31:43,500
\nHowever, as we said before, and
\nI don’t want to trivialize this <\/p>\n
594
\n00:31:43,500 –> 00:31:47,100
\neither because this is a very
\nimportant point, we can put <\/p>\n
595
\n00:31:47,100 –> 00:31:51,500
\nourselves on a path.
\nThat is downward spiraling <\/p>\n
596
\n00:31:51,500 –> 00:31:54,400
\nrather than rather than heading
\ntowards spiritual maturity. <\/p>\n
597
\n00:31:54,900 –> 00:31:58,300
\nAnd they’re at some point in
\nthat process we can make <\/p>\n
598
\n00:31:58,300 –> 00:32:02,300
\nshipwreck of our faith.
\nWe can put ourselves outside and<\/p>\n
599
\n00:32:02,300 –> 00:32:05,400
\nmake ourselves a reprobate or
\nput ourselves outside God’s pale<\/p>\n
600
\n00:32:05,400 –> 00:32:09,000
\nof Salvation.
\nAnd and Paul even says that <\/p>\n
601
\n00:32:09,000 –> 00:32:12,400
\nthere was a reality that he
\nhimself, if he wasn’t careful, <\/p>\n
602
\n00:32:12,400 –> 00:32:15,000
\ncould put himself outside of
\nSalvation. <\/p>\n
603
\n00:32:15,000 –> 00:32:16,800
\nSo that that is a reality as
\nwell. <\/p>\n
604
\n00:32:18,300 –> 00:32:21,100
\nNow, we can apply this principle
\nto many Bible characters. <\/p>\n
605
\n00:32:23,000 –> 00:32:27,300
\nIn fact, every study you do half
\nof a few exceptions like Joseph <\/p>\n
606
\n00:32:27,300 –> 00:32:31,800
\nand something Daniel Daniel
\nJesuit. <\/p>\n
607
\n00:32:31,800 –> 00:32:35,500
\nThe Rattler Islam have major
\nflaws purposely presented for us<\/p>\n
608
\n00:32:35,500 –> 00:32:38,400
\nthat we can, we can look at and
\nyou can apply this graph, too. <\/p>\n
609
\n00:32:38,400 –> 00:32:41,600
\nMany people look at the apostles
\nare the apostles are such a <\/p>\n
610
\n00:32:41,600 –> 00:32:44,900
\nstark example.
\nI find that I find a lot of <\/p>\n
611
\n00:32:44,908 –> 00:32:49,800
\ncomfort in this example, because
\nYou know, the lofty calling of <\/p>\n
612
\n00:32:49,800 –> 00:32:53,200
\nChrist that we are looking at
\nwith joy that the demand on <\/p>\n
613
\n00:32:53,200 –> 00:32:56,300
\nPerfection.
\nThat is there is what is so is <\/p>\n
614
\n00:32:56,300 –> 00:32:59,300
\ncan be daunting really?
\nAnd we all fall short of that <\/p>\n
615
\n00:33:00,100 –> 00:33:03,500
\nanything well How does God look
\nat me? <\/p>\n
616
\n00:33:03,500 –> 00:33:05,800
\nWhen I’m falling short of that.
\nI’m not reaching Perfection. <\/p>\n
617
\n00:33:05,800 –> 00:33:08,300
\nHe says be perfect as my father
\nis, in heaven is perfect. <\/p>\n
618
\n00:33:09,700 –> 00:33:13,600
\nWhere do I stand from salvation?
\nPoint of view as I’m trying to <\/p>\n
619
\n00:33:13,600 –> 00:33:16,600
\nachieve that.
\nAnd the apostles are a classic <\/p>\n
620
\n00:33:16,600 –> 00:33:19,400
\nexample, you know, look at their
\nlook at their immaturity, in <\/p>\n
621
\n00:33:19,400 –> 00:33:21,800
\nthose early those early days
\nwith the Lord. <\/p>\n
622
\n00:33:22,200 –> 00:33:24,400
\nNow arguing about who was going
\nto be the greatest. <\/p>\n
623
\n00:33:24,800 –> 00:33:27,500
\nIt’s almost it’s almost comical
\nwhen you read that. <\/p>\n
624
\n00:33:27,500 –> 00:33:30,300
\nYou do you think you idiots?
\nYou’re reading the reading the <\/p>\n
625
\n00:33:30,500 –> 00:33:31,500
\nstory.
\nYou idiots. <\/p>\n
626
\n00:33:31,500 –> 00:33:33,600
\nWhat are you what are you doing
\nthat? <\/p>\n
627
\n00:33:33,700 –> 00:33:39,200
\nIt’s so immature and and Even
\nthe doctrinal perspective was <\/p>\n
628
\n00:33:39,200 –> 00:33:43,100
\nnot quite clear, was that they
\ndidn’t even understand the <\/p>\n
629
\n00:33:43,100 –> 00:33:46,500
\noverall message that Jesus had
\nto actually die and raise again.<\/p>\n
630
\n00:33:46,500 –> 00:33:49,600
\nSo there’s even those little
\nshortfalls in that understanding<\/p>\n
631
\n00:33:49,600 –> 00:33:52,400
\neven their their courage and
\ncommitment. <\/p>\n
632
\n00:33:52,400 –> 00:33:56,000
\nTo Christ was question, they all
\nfled when he was arrested, Peter<\/p>\n
633
\n00:33:56,000 –> 00:34:00,000
\ngoes on to deny him even when
\nthe Lord needed them the most. <\/p>\n
634
\n00:34:00,600 –> 00:34:03,800
\nThey weren’t there for him, even
\nif they have just, you know, <\/p>\n
635
\n00:34:03,808 –> 00:34:05,400
\njust being there at that crucial
\ntime. <\/p>\n
636
\n00:34:05,400 –> 00:34:07,800
\nBut they all slumbered and slept
\nLipton, they really didn’t <\/p>\n
637
\n00:34:08,100 –> 00:34:11,000
\nreally contribute and help him
\nin a great deal. <\/p>\n
638
\n00:34:11,000 –> 00:34:14,800
\nAnd often Jesus would say to
\nthem, oh, ye of little faith. <\/p>\n
639
\n00:34:14,900 –> 00:34:19,300
\nWhen they reacted, you know, in
\na particular situation, you <\/p>\n
640
\n00:34:19,300 –> 00:34:22,300
\nwould look at the reaction with
\nour scared in the boat, or <\/p>\n
641
\n00:34:22,300 –> 00:34:23,900
\nwhatever it is, are ye of little
\nfaith. <\/p>\n
642
\n00:34:23,900 –> 00:34:26,900
\nSo, they only had little faith
\nat that time. <\/p>\n
643
\n00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:31,300
\nWe ask you a question.
\nWell, when, when did we need <\/p>\n
644
\n00:34:31,300 –> 00:34:33,699
\nsalvation?
\nKick in, for these men, was it. <\/p>\n
645
\n00:34:33,699 –> 00:34:38,400
\nWhen we read later in the gospel
\nin In the Epistles, where they <\/p>\n
646
\n00:34:38,400 –> 00:34:40,900
\nreach this spiritual maturity,
\nwhere they become pillars in the<\/p>\n
647
\n00:34:40,900 –> 00:34:44,199
\nEcclesia, is that when that God
\nconsiders them to be in the Book<\/p>\n
648
\n00:34:44,199 –> 00:34:50,000
\nof Life and the reality is no.
\nThe reality is Jesus considered <\/p>\n
649
\n00:34:50,000 –> 00:34:54,600
\nthem that point to be his
\nbrother, Mother, sister or <\/p>\n
650
\n00:34:54,600 –> 00:34:56,300
\nbrother.
\nWhat is it brother twice you? <\/p>\n
651
\n00:34:56,400 –> 00:34:57,500
\nBut you know that what I’m
\ntrying to say. <\/p>\n
652
\n00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:04,300
\nWell, when he said to them
\nRejoice, emotionally respond, to<\/p>\n
653
\n00:35:04,300 –> 00:35:06,100
\nthe fact that your names are
\nwritten in heaven. <\/p>\n
654
\n00:35:06,100 –> 00:35:10,200
\nRight now, I want you to Rejoice
\nnot rejoice that maybe in the <\/p>\n
655
\n00:35:10,200 –> 00:35:13,500
\nfuture, you’ll get more maturity
\nand you’ll be no. <\/p>\n
656
\n00:35:13,500 –> 00:35:15,300
\nHe says, Rejoice, that your
\nnames are written in heaven. <\/p>\n
657
\n00:35:15,300 –> 00:35:18,900
\nSo in a sense, they had shown
\nthe little If they had, they had<\/p>\n
658
\n00:35:18,900 –> 00:35:22,600
\nfollowed Jesus, and despite all
\nof the mistakes, they would all <\/p>\n
659
\n00:35:22,600 –> 00:35:25,700
\nmake particularly, you know,
\nPeters ones are glary and lift <\/p>\n
660
\n00:35:25,700 –> 00:35:27,100
\non record for us for that
\nreason. <\/p>\n
661
\n00:35:27,400 –> 00:35:32,100
\nDespite the fact that they would
\nfail in many ways, they were <\/p>\n
662
\n00:35:32,100 –> 00:35:38,000
\nstill in the pale of salvation I
\nwas still in that that Circle of<\/p>\n
663
\n00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:41,800
\nSalvation.
\nNow, not all of them were Judas <\/p>\n
664
\n00:35:42,500 –> 00:35:43,400
\nwent out.
\nSorry brother. <\/p>\n
665
\n00:35:44,200 –> 00:35:55,700
\nYep.
\nThat’s it. <\/p>\n
666
\n00:35:56,000 –> 00:35:57,100
\nYou want that?
\nGalatians, 1:6. <\/p>\n
667
\n00:35:57,100 –> 00:36:01,800
\nOne or all?
\nOkay, I’ve got you have your lip<\/p>\n
668
\n00:36:02,100 –> 00:36:08,800
\nno problem.
\nOkay, so the apostles Judas went<\/p>\n
669
\n00:36:08,800 –> 00:36:11,800
\nout so he was on the journey
\nwith them at one point and then <\/p>\n
670
\n00:36:12,100 –> 00:36:16,700
\nhe makes a decision and many as
\nmany different than men. <\/p>\n
671
\n00:36:16,700 –> 00:36:18,800
\nEven studies looking at the
\nmotivation of Judas with it was <\/p>\n
672
\n00:36:18,800 –> 00:36:21,500
\npure greed as it appears or
\nwhether it disappointment with <\/p>\n
673
\n00:36:21,500 –> 00:36:28,100
\nthe, with the political approach
\nthat Jesus was taking and Etc. <\/p>\n
674
\n00:36:28,100 –> 00:36:31,600
\nWhether it is a rebuke, he got
\nfrom when he sort of talk down <\/p>\n
675
\n00:36:31,600 –> 00:36:34,700
\nto marry and washing Jesus who
\nwas watching Jesus feet, all, <\/p>\n
676
\n00:36:34,700 –> 00:36:38,700
\nthere’s all these different
\nreasons, but whatever it was He <\/p>\n
677
\n00:36:38,700 –> 00:36:42,000
\nmade a decision to leave, and he
\nwent out and he puts himself <\/p>\n
678
\n00:36:42,000 –> 00:36:47,000
\noutside that pail of salvation.
\nthe many of us have grown up on <\/p>\n
679
\n00:36:47,000 –> 00:36:51,200
\nthis, I suppose concept of God
\nmanifest station where young <\/p>\n
680
\n00:36:51,200 –> 00:36:54,800
\npeople and got manifestations,
\nbeing a concept that’s been put <\/p>\n
681
\n00:36:54,800 –> 00:36:59,500
\nbefore us quite often and And
\nI’m not saying everyone thinks <\/p>\n
682
\n00:36:59,500 –> 00:37:01,000
\nthis is could be me because I
\nwould be dim. <\/p>\n
683
\n00:37:01,000 –> 00:37:03,900
\nBut the idea I had of God
\nmanifestation was, you know, <\/p>\n
684
\n00:37:03,900 –> 00:37:06,800
\nyou’ve just great on this graph.
\nHere, you’ve got your faith <\/p>\n
685
\n00:37:06,800 –> 00:37:08,700
\nlevels and you’ve got your time
\nin the truth. <\/p>\n
686
\n00:37:09,200 –> 00:37:12,500
\nAnd as your time in the truth
\ngrows, as you get more knowledge<\/p>\n
687
\n00:37:12,500 –> 00:37:15,700
\nof God’s word and you, you know,
\nhave more experiences and you <\/p>\n
688
\n00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:19,300
\nlearn more about God and your
\nrelationship with God, grows <\/p>\n
689
\n00:37:19,300 –> 00:37:21,400
\nthat your faith.
\nLevel grows in this sort of <\/p>\n
690
\n00:37:21,600 –> 00:37:23,800
\ntrajectory like we see on this
\ngraph here. <\/p>\n
691
\n00:37:23,800 –> 00:37:26,100
\nThat’s sort of the impression I
\nsort of had of God <\/p>\n
692
\n00:37:26,100 –> 00:37:28,200
\nmanifestation.
\nSo I was looking forward to when<\/p>\n
693
\n00:37:28,200 –> 00:37:31,900
\nI Yeah, my mid-40s whatever.
\nI’d be so, mature and everything<\/p>\n
694
\n00:37:31,900 –> 00:37:34,800
\nwould just sort of clicking the
\nplace and it doesn’t really <\/p>\n
695
\n00:37:34,800 –> 00:37:36,700
\nhappen that way.
\nAnd so, if we have that view, we<\/p>\n
696
\n00:37:36,700 –> 00:37:40,300
\ncan feel a bit of a
\ndisappointment when life doesn’t<\/p>\n
697
\n00:37:40,300 –> 00:37:42,000
\nwork that way.
\nNow, I just want to graph the <\/p>\n
698
\n00:37:42,000 –> 00:37:45,000
\nlife of two people, Peter and,
\nand Abraham very quickly. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:37:46,000 –> 00:37:48,300
\nAnd just show you that God
\nmanifestation doesn’t work on <\/p>\n
700
\n00:37:48,300 –> 00:37:50,600
\nthat trajectory at all, doesn’t
\nwork in that way. <\/p>\n
701
\n00:37:50,800 –> 00:37:53,500
\nYes, behind the scenes.
\nThere definitely is a <\/p>\n
702
\n00:37:53,508 –> 00:37:56,300
\ndevelopment taking place, but
\nit’s not in that sort of <\/p>\n
703
\n00:37:56,700 –> 00:38:00,200
\nbusinessmen, like The knowledge
\nthat we fill method that we’re <\/p>\n
704
\n00:38:00,207 –> 00:38:04,300
\nthinking now look at Peter just
\ngraph his life, there’s this <\/p>\n
705
\n00:38:04,300 –> 00:38:06,500
\nfake level.
\nThere’s is timing the truth. <\/p>\n
706
\n00:38:07,400 –> 00:38:09,600
\nWell, you responds to the call
\nof Christ, so we could say, <\/p>\n
707
\n00:38:09,600 –> 00:38:13,700
\nwell, that’s a demonstration of
\nFaith, which it was, but then <\/p>\n
708
\n00:38:14,000 –> 00:38:18,000
\nthere’s the many incidences,
\nlike we, Jesus rebukes him for <\/p>\n
709
\n00:38:18,000 –> 00:38:20,900
\nhis attitudes.
\nAnd what he’s, what he’s in <\/p>\n
710
\n00:38:20,900 –> 00:38:23,900
\nstatements that he makes and
\nJesus depart from me, you know, <\/p>\n
711
\n00:38:26,400 –> 00:38:29,000
\nhe occasionally, walks on the
\nwater you could say, was As a <\/p>\n
712
\n00:38:29,000 –> 00:38:31,000
\npinnacle of Faith or he stepped
\nout of the boat. <\/p>\n
713
\n00:38:31,400 –> 00:38:33,900
\nYes, he floundered but at least
\nhe got out of there and sort of <\/p>\n
714
\n00:38:33,908 –> 00:38:37,600
\nput himself in that environment.
\nBut then he’s later on in that I<\/p>\n
715
\n00:38:37,607 –> 00:38:39,500
\nthink it’s almost the same.
\nChapter is all the very accepted<\/p>\n
716
\n00:38:39,500 –> 00:38:43,100
\nJesus says, Get Behind Me, Satan
\ncalls him Satan and he said well<\/p>\n
717
\n00:38:43,100 –> 00:38:46,000
\nthere’s a there’s a low point in
\nPeters life any then he makes <\/p>\n
718
\n00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:48,400
\nthat statement that you know you
\nare the Christ, the son of the <\/p>\n
719
\n00:38:48,408 –> 00:38:50,900
\nLiving God and Jesus says you
\nknow, this is just an amazing <\/p>\n
720
\n00:38:50,900 –> 00:38:54,200
\nstatement that I’m going to
\nbuild my closure on and then he <\/p>\n
721
\n00:38:54,200 –> 00:38:57,300
\ndenies Christ.
\nYou know not not much long after<\/p>\n
722
\n00:38:57,300 –> 00:39:02,400
\nthat and sort of So, a low point
\nin his life and then, of course <\/p>\n
723
\n00:39:02,400 –> 00:39:04,500
\nhe cut off Malcolm’s is here.
\nWe could, we didn’t even graph <\/p>\n
724
\n00:39:04,500 –> 00:39:07,700
\neverything in there, and he goes
\non, eventually become a pillar <\/p>\n
725
\n00:39:07,700 –> 00:39:11,500
\nin God’s Ecclesia.
\nEven as a pillow, though he <\/p>\n
726
\n00:39:11,500 –> 00:39:13,900
\nstill won’t, we still, you know,
\nthey’ll these prejudices and <\/p>\n
727
\n00:39:13,900 –> 00:39:15,900
\nthese things and he had that God
\nhad to work with, you know, the <\/p>\n
728
\n00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:19,000
\nstory of the call Newton for the
\nCornelius conversion. <\/p>\n
729
\n00:39:19,000 –> 00:39:21,900
\nGot it to send the sheet of
\nanimals later on even when he’s <\/p>\n
730
\n00:39:21,900 –> 00:39:25,400
\na you know he’s a very respected
\nbrother and a very senior, you <\/p>\n
731
\n00:39:25,400 –> 00:39:27,800
\nknow, and mature brother in the
\ntruth. <\/p>\n
732
\n00:39:28,300 –> 00:39:30,600
\nPaul has to with standing
\nface-to-face because of his <\/p>\n
733
\n00:39:30,600 –> 00:39:33,300
\nattitude.
\nSo you know, you never really <\/p>\n
734
\n00:39:33,600 –> 00:39:35,500
\nsort of just keep going up and
\nup and up, and becoming more <\/p>\n
735
\n00:39:35,500 –> 00:39:39,500
\nperfect in that way.
\nAnd so Peters trajectory was not<\/p>\n
736
\n00:39:39,600 –> 00:39:42,900
\nlike that.
\nIt was more like that ups and <\/p>\n
737
\n00:39:42,900 –> 00:39:44,700
\ndowns in his life.
\nIt doesn’t mean that when he hit<\/p>\n
738
\n00:39:44,700 –> 00:39:47,500
\na low, he was out of the pale of
\nSalvation. <\/p>\n
739
\n00:39:48,200 –> 00:39:51,800
\nIt doesn’t mean when he was hit
\nthe high that he was in the pale<\/p>\n
740
\n00:39:51,800 –> 00:39:54,700
\nand he was fine.
\nIt’s not how God works. <\/p>\n
741
\n00:39:54,800 –> 00:39:57,300
\nGod’s strength.
\nIs second Corinthians says God’s<\/p>\n
742
\n00:39:57,300 –> 00:39:58,700
\nstrength is made.
\nPerfect. <\/p>\n
743
\n00:39:58,700 –> 00:40:01,000
\nIn weakness.
\nIt’s actually the process <\/p>\n
744
\n00:40:01,000 –> 00:40:03,900
\nactually occurs at these lows in
\nour life. <\/p>\n
745
\n00:40:03,900 –> 00:40:06,500
\nThat’s where God works with us
\nand that’s something that we’re <\/p>\n
746
\n00:40:06,500 –> 00:40:09,400
\ngoing to keep in mind.
\nIn fact, sometimes when the <\/p>\n
747
\n00:40:09,400 –> 00:40:12,500
\neverything seems to be
\nsuccessful and good is where <\/p>\n
748
\n00:40:12,500 –> 00:40:16,800
\nwe’re not as spiritual.
\nAs we could be Abraham another <\/p>\n
749
\n00:40:16,800 –> 00:40:20,500
\nclassic case of Faith to Faith
\nof development of Faith. <\/p>\n
750
\n00:40:21,200 –> 00:40:23,400
\nHe leaves earn, you know, rides
\nin shechem. <\/p>\n
751
\n00:40:23,500 –> 00:40:27,300
\nThat’s an upper in his life.
\nFor example of Faith, you know, <\/p>\n
752
\n00:40:27,300 –> 00:40:32,200
\nit’s a it really crosses.
\nEuphrates, Etc. <\/p>\n
753
\n00:40:32,200 –> 00:40:36,200
\nHe becomes a Hebrew.
\nBut then it’s virtually the very<\/p>\n
754
\n00:40:36,200 –> 00:40:40,100
\nnext chapter chapter 12, he goes
\ndown into Egypt, he’s fearful <\/p>\n
755
\n00:40:40,100 –> 00:40:41,700
\nfor his life is worried that
\nthere is going to kill. <\/p>\n
756
\n00:40:41,700 –> 00:40:45,100
\nHim takes are off in this, array
\nof him, makes up these little <\/p>\n
757
\n00:40:45,100 –> 00:40:47,400
\nhalf Li half-truth thing and
\ngets himself. <\/p>\n
758
\n00:40:47,600 –> 00:40:51,300
\nYou know, we’re a Web of Lies
\nthat sort of has him trapped in <\/p>\n
759
\n00:40:51,300 –> 00:40:53,100
\nan eventual.
\nHe’s only God’s intervention <\/p>\n
760
\n00:40:53,100 –> 00:40:56,800
\nthat saves him from that point
\nand it’s it’s at these low <\/p>\n
761
\n00:40:56,800 –> 00:40:58,900
\npoints.
\nI believe rain Abraham’s faith <\/p>\n
762
\n00:40:58,900 –> 00:41:01,400
\nis really developed the Abraham
\nin Genesis 22. <\/p>\n
763
\n00:41:02,400 –> 00:41:06,500
\nDoes not happen by Magic the
\neggs Genesis 22 comes because of<\/p>\n
764
\n00:41:06,600 –> 00:41:09,900
\nthe Abraham in Chapter 13.
\nIt’s all part of the same. <\/p>\n
765
\n00:41:10,000 –> 00:41:13,000
\nSame story, isn’t it?
\nDoesn’t mean what he was in <\/p>\n
766
\n00:41:13,000 –> 00:41:16,400
\nEgypt that God said well, well
\nwell if the angel comes back now<\/p>\n
767
\n00:41:16,400 –> 00:41:17,500
\nyou’re not in the Kingdom at
\nall. <\/p>\n
768
\n00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:21,600
\nHe rescues like the space that’s
\nan upper, the story of Hagar, <\/p>\n
769
\n00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:23,200
\nsome people interpret it
\nslightly different. <\/p>\n
770
\n00:41:23,200 –> 00:41:26,100
\nBut I see it as a down point
\nwhere he’s trying to he’s trying<\/p>\n
771
\n00:41:26,100 –> 00:41:29,700
\nto bring about the Fulfillment
\nof the promises, his own way <\/p>\n
772
\n00:41:31,200 –> 00:41:34,000
\nlater on the Promises of renewed
\nto him and so there’s a sort of <\/p>\n
773
\n00:41:34,900 –> 00:41:36,900
\nan upper Faith upper in his
\nlife. <\/p>\n
774
\n00:41:37,800 –> 00:41:40,100
\nStory of gear on, with the bema
\nlake, seems to be a down where <\/p>\n
775
\n00:41:40,100 –> 00:41:42,900
\nyou repeat the exact same
\nproblem back here in Egypt, <\/p>\n
776
\n00:41:43,300 –> 00:41:46,400
\nsacrifice of Isaac.
\nOf course, he’s up again and <\/p>\n
777
\n00:41:46,400 –> 00:41:50,500
\nagain Abraham’s Faith was not
\nthis getting better and better <\/p>\n
778
\n00:41:50,500 –> 00:41:53,200
\nand better all the time, like
\nsome sort of, you know, athlete <\/p>\n
779
\n00:41:53,200 –> 00:41:55,700
\nis just continually training in
\nthat sense. <\/p>\n
780
\n00:41:56,600 –> 00:41:59,800
\nGod’s strength is not developed
\nlike an athlete in that sense. <\/p>\n
781
\n00:42:00,300 –> 00:42:02,500
\nYes, is an undeveloped
\nunderlying development taking <\/p>\n
782
\n00:42:02,500 –> 00:42:05,300
\nplace, but the the development
\nof Abraham went like that. <\/p>\n
783
\n00:42:05,900 –> 00:42:08,700
\nAnd when Abraham was laying on
\nhis My stomach in front of <\/p>\n
784
\n00:42:08,700 –> 00:42:12,100
\npharaoh laying there on the cold
\nmarble floor, his bowels, you <\/p>\n
785
\n00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:14,300
\nknow, just about to gush in his
\nteeth chattering. <\/p>\n
786
\n00:42:14,300 –> 00:42:17,900
\nAnd one of these is going to be
\nimpaled or that’s when God’s <\/p>\n
787
\n00:42:17,900 –> 00:42:19,700
\nfaith.
\nThat’s when let’s learn God’s <\/p>\n
788
\n00:42:19,700 –> 00:42:22,300
\nstrength was working in here.
\nMaybe a low Point like that. <\/p>\n
789
\n00:42:23,700 –> 00:42:25,800
\nAnd that, as I said, he’s part
\nof the whole process. <\/p>\n
790
\n00:42:28,100 –> 00:42:31,400
\nOne of the one of the it
\nseriously. <\/p>\n
791
\n00:42:32,700 –> 00:42:37,600
\nOne of my objectives, my
\npractical objectives from these <\/p>\n
792
\n00:42:37,600 –> 00:42:41,100
\nstudies is almost identical to
\nJonah’s in a way and it’s <\/p>\n
793
\n00:42:41,100 –> 00:42:43,800
\ninteresting how there’s two
\nstudies will see come together <\/p>\n
794
\n00:42:43,800 –> 00:42:47,900
\nin that way.
\nJohn official is beautiful study<\/p>\n
795
\n00:42:47,900 –> 00:42:51,400
\nyesterday with the two houses
\nand and the saying that let’s <\/p>\n
796
\n00:42:51,400 –> 00:42:56,800
\nbuild our house on, on the Rock,
\nThe Words of Christ that that we<\/p>\n
797
\n00:42:56,800 –> 00:43:00,400
\ncan withstand the winds and the
\nstorms and the trials, and the <\/p>\n
798
\n00:43:00,408 –> 00:43:02,300
\nproblems that come upon us and
\njust just hang in there. <\/p>\n
799
\n00:43:02,500 –> 00:43:05,300
\nHanging on the words of Christ
\nhanging on the Rock and build a <\/p>\n
800
\n00:43:05,308 –> 00:43:08,500
\nlife on that.
\nAnd in a sense I believe that’s <\/p>\n
801
\n00:43:08,500 –> 00:43:14,400
\nthe real message and my take
\nhome message, is the words are <\/p>\n
802
\n00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:16,300
\nslightly different.
\nThe concepts are saying he that <\/p>\n
803
\n00:43:16,300 –> 00:43:19,400
\nendures to the end will be
\nsaved. <\/p>\n
804
\n00:43:19,400 –> 00:43:23,400
\nThat’s my message viewing do it
\nto the end, you will be saved. <\/p>\n
805
\n00:43:23,800 –> 00:43:27,300
\nAnd I believe a lot of The
\nParables we sort of missed that <\/p>\n
806
\n00:43:27,300 –> 00:43:31,600
\nconcept looking Maybe.
\nTo intricately at other aspects <\/p>\n
807
\n00:43:31,600 –> 00:43:34,300
\nof The Parables of Miss.
\nThis is overwhelming idea that <\/p>\n
808
\n00:43:34,600 –> 00:43:38,700
\nit’s remaining in Christ.
\nThat really is what our <\/p>\n
809
\n00:43:38,700 –> 00:43:41,300
\nSalvation is dependent on.
\nAnd we were in Christ or when <\/p>\n
810
\n00:43:41,300 –> 00:43:44,300
\nwe’re staying within the
\nconfines of the Ecclesia. <\/p>\n
811
\n00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:47,000
\nIf you want to use that term,
\nall the the truth, or within the<\/p>\n
812
\n00:43:47,008 –> 00:43:51,400
\nconfines of God’s word, God can
\nwork with us and the Spiritual <\/p>\n
813
\n00:43:51,400 –> 00:43:54,500
\nDevelopment can take place if
\nwe, if we stay there and we <\/p>\n
814
\n00:43:54,508 –> 00:43:58,400
\ndon’t depart And that’s that’s
\nthat’s really the power, I think<\/p>\n
815
\n00:43:58,400 –> 00:44:00,300
\nof these things.
\nNow, we haven’t got time to <\/p>\n
816
\n00:44:00,300 –> 00:44:03,200
\ndwell on this into much detail,
\nbut the one of the, one of the <\/p>\n
817
\n00:44:03,200 –> 00:44:06,600
\ninteresting Parables is the
\nparable of the ten virgins. <\/p>\n
818
\n00:44:06,600 –> 00:44:10,600
\nFive wise for our foolish, many
\nof us I think pick up this <\/p>\n
819
\n00:44:10,600 –> 00:44:14,300
\nconcept through Sunday school
\nthat you know we can’t we come <\/p>\n
820
\n00:44:14,300 –> 00:44:16,800
\nto Bible schools, we could go to
\nthe meeting and we get the oil <\/p>\n
821
\n00:44:17,100 –> 00:44:19,900
\nlevels increased and then if we
\ndon’t do the readings and we <\/p>\n
822
\n00:44:19,900 –> 00:44:23,700
\nsort of don’t go to bible class
\nlittle oil goes down and <\/p>\n
823
\n00:44:23,700 –> 00:44:27,000
\nhopefully we got enough oil in
\nthe tank when Christ returns at <\/p>\n
824
\n00:44:27,300 –> 00:44:28,700
\nthat, he looks at the oil
\nlevels. <\/p>\n
825
\n00:44:28,800 –> 00:44:31,500
\nMaybe drops one of those oil
\nindicators in the see, what will<\/p>\n
826
\n00:44:31,500 –> 00:44:33,000
\never wear got whether we’re
\nsaved or not. <\/p>\n
827
\n00:44:33,000 –> 00:44:38,200
\nThat’s sort of a, you know, a
\nconcept that that some of us <\/p>\n
828
\n00:44:38,200 –> 00:44:41,300
\nthink.
\nNow, this one present a slightly<\/p>\n
829
\n00:44:41,300 –> 00:44:42,600
\ndifferent way of looking at
\nthat. <\/p>\n
830
\n00:44:42,600 –> 00:44:46,400
\nParable you may not agree with
\nthis particular in your first <\/p>\n
831
\n00:44:46,400 –> 00:44:50,100
\nview of it and that’s fair
\nenough and it won’t really <\/p>\n
832
\n00:44:50,100 –> 00:44:55,600
\nchange the overall theme of our
\nstudy but I believe it’s <\/p>\n
833
\n00:44:55,600 –> 00:44:58,400
\ntapping.
\nNG into the whole purpose of God<\/p>\n
834
\n00:44:58,400 –> 00:45:01,900
\nin our life.
\nThe context of these Parables, <\/p>\n
835
\n00:45:01,900 –> 00:45:04,300
\nnot just the Matthew Parables,
\nbut the the similar parables are<\/p>\n
836
\n00:45:04,300 –> 00:45:07,700
\ngiven in Luke.
\nThe context is, it says he added<\/p>\n
837
\n00:45:07,700 –> 00:45:10,800
\nand spake, a parable, because he
\nwas nitrogen Jerusalem, and <\/p>\n
838
\n00:45:10,800 –> 00:45:15,600
\nbecause they thought the kingdom
\nof God should immediately appear<\/p>\n
839
\n00:45:15,700 –> 00:45:18,300
\nnow.
\nThis is this is the background <\/p>\n
840
\n00:45:18,300 –> 00:45:22,000
\nobjective of these Parables.
\nYes, there’s going to be lots of<\/p>\n
841
\n00:45:22,000 –> 00:45:23,500
\nother little lessons.
\nWe got to pull out of it, but <\/p>\n
842
\n00:45:23,500 –> 00:45:27,000
\nthe overall sort of punch or
\nthese Parables is that Jesus is <\/p>\n
843
\n00:45:27,000 –> 00:45:28,700
\nnot going to immediately appear
\nto those people. <\/p>\n
844
\n00:45:29,900 –> 00:45:33,600
\nAnd he then progresses into the
\nOlivet prophecy in Matthew 24. <\/p>\n
845
\n00:45:33,700 –> 00:45:37,000
\nFor example, the question is
\nasked which, which sort of <\/p>\n
846
\n00:45:37,008 –> 00:45:40,000
\nprompts the whole prophecy, when
\nare these things going to happen<\/p>\n
847
\n00:45:40,200 –> 00:45:41,200
\nwhen you’re going to restore
\nagain? <\/p>\n
848
\n00:45:41,300 –> 00:45:43,200
\nThe kingdom to Israel is the
\nsentiment there. <\/p>\n
849
\n00:45:43,300 –> 00:45:46,200
\nOne of these things going to be
\nand Jesus goes on in that in <\/p>\n
850
\n00:45:46,207 –> 00:45:48,900
\nthat prophecy says.
\nWell there’s going to be a lot <\/p>\n
851
\n00:45:48,900 –> 00:45:51,700
\nof lot of time.
\nA lot of history is going to go <\/p>\n
852
\n00:45:51,700 –> 00:45:53,800
\nunder the bridge before these
\nthings happen. <\/p>\n
853
\n00:45:53,900 –> 00:45:57,100
\nHe says there’s going to be Wars
\nrumors of wars and troubles. <\/p>\n
854
\n00:45:57,100 –> 00:45:59,600
\nYou said the end is not yet.
\nDon’t don’t think it’s because <\/p>\n
855
\n00:45:59,700 –> 00:46:02,200
\nSee, some wars in the Roman
\nEmpire. <\/p>\n
856
\n00:46:02,200 –> 00:46:05,700
\nThat’s the end, is still a long
\nway off Nation will rise against<\/p>\n
857
\n00:46:05,700 –> 00:46:09,000
\nNation Kingdom against Kingdom,
\nand he says, but he that <\/p>\n
858
\n00:46:09,000 –> 00:46:12,800
\nendureth to the end shall be
\nsaved. <\/p>\n
859
\n00:46:12,900 –> 00:46:15,000
\nThis is the appeal of Jesus, in
\nthese parables. <\/p>\n
860
\n00:46:16,100 –> 00:46:19,000
\nNow.
\nAgain, you have to follow this <\/p>\n
861
\n00:46:19,000 –> 00:46:20,500
\nup in your own time, a lot of a
\nlot of you. <\/p>\n
862
\n00:46:20,508 –> 00:46:26,000
\nBut that, that would for lamps
\nthat we often think about and <\/p>\n
863
\n00:46:26,000 –> 00:46:28,200
\nhave depicted in our Sunday
\nschool plays Etc. <\/p>\n
864
\n00:46:28,200 –> 00:46:30,500
\nWhen we look at this, Parable,
\nwe often think of lamps in the <\/p>\n
865
\n00:46:30,500 –> 00:46:33,100
\nsense of these little tiny
\nlittle lamps with a little weak <\/p>\n
866
\n00:46:33,100 –> 00:46:36,400
\non it that we carry around.
\nYou might read a manuscript with<\/p>\n
867
\n00:46:36,800 –> 00:46:39,500
\nthe actual word, it’s only used
\nfive times in the New Testament,<\/p>\n
868
\n00:46:39,500 –> 00:46:42,700
\nthe word lamps and it’s used an
\ninteresting place in John 18, <\/p>\n
869
\n00:46:42,700 –> 00:46:46,100
\nwhen the soldiers come to arrest
\nJesus, I have these two tickets <\/p>\n
870
\n00:46:46,100 –> 00:46:50,300
\nTransit torches Tortures, I went
\nlittle lamp so much, the Torches<\/p>\n
871
\n00:46:50,500 –> 00:46:53,800
\ndon’t have oil in them as such
\nwhat you do is that top of the <\/p>\n
872
\n00:46:53,800 –> 00:46:58,400
\ntorch is often had some leather
\nor even material at the top of, <\/p>\n
873
\n00:46:58,400 –> 00:47:00,400
\nwouldn’t the like a steak, a
\nwooden stake. <\/p>\n
874
\n00:47:00,400 –> 00:47:03,400
\nAnd you’ll dip them in the oil
\nand light them and then have to <\/p>\n
875
\n00:47:03,400 –> 00:47:05,600
\nread them once they went out.
\nSo, that’s the item. <\/p>\n
876
\n00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:09,500
\nThat’s more of the idea, than
\nthe little sort of oil lamp that<\/p>\n
877
\n00:47:09,508 –> 00:47:13,600
\nwe sometimes think about, Now,
\nlook at what happens in this <\/p>\n
878
\n00:47:13,600 –> 00:47:15,600
\nParable.
\nThe five foolish. <\/p>\n
879
\n00:47:16,800 –> 00:47:17,800
\nTalk.
\nNo oil. <\/p>\n
880
\n00:47:17,900 –> 00:47:19,400
\nNone.
\nThey never had any oil to start <\/p>\n
881
\n00:47:19,400 –> 00:47:22,400
\nwith, not at not a drop.
\nOkay, this is this is slightly <\/p>\n
882
\n00:47:22,400 –> 00:47:24,000
\ndifferent than the idea of our
\noil levels. <\/p>\n
883
\n00:47:24,000 –> 00:47:26,800
\nRunning up and down through our
\nlife, they never had oil with <\/p>\n
884
\n00:47:26,800 –> 00:47:30,600
\nthem since they took no oil with
\nthem at all. <\/p>\n
885
\n00:47:31,100 –> 00:47:35,800
\nAnd the lamps, as I said, didn’t
\ncontain actual oil itself, look <\/p>\n
886
\n00:47:35,800 –> 00:47:37,700
\nat the five wise.
\nThey need they have oil in their<\/p>\n
887
\n00:47:37,700 –> 00:47:40,200
\nlamps either.
\nThey just had the lamp and it <\/p>\n
888
\n00:47:40,200 –> 00:47:45,500
\nsays they took or oil in their
\nvessels or the I think the ESV <\/p>\n
889
\n00:47:45,500 –> 00:47:50,000
\nis got Thank you coil in the
\nflask, not in a torch, not in <\/p>\n
890
\n00:47:50,000 –> 00:47:53,900
\ntheir land.
\nAnd basically other translators <\/p>\n
891
\n00:47:53,900 –> 00:47:58,600
\nhave jars or flask the five
\nfoolish were not prepared for <\/p>\n
892
\n00:47:58,600 –> 00:48:03,100
\nthe long Waits that would come.
\nAnd so when there’s long way to <\/p>\n
893
\n00:48:03,100 –> 00:48:05,400
\ncurd and that they slumbered and
\nslept excetera when the <\/p>\n
894
\n00:48:05,400 –> 00:48:08,700
\nbridegroom finally showed, at
\nthat point, they had no oil <\/p>\n
895
\n00:48:08,700 –> 00:48:10,800
\nwhatsoever though.
\nWe’re not ready for that long. <\/p>\n
896
\n00:48:10,800 –> 00:48:13,300
\nWait.
\nThere’s no measurement of oil <\/p>\n
897
\n00:48:13,300 –> 00:48:15,900
\nlevels is no discussion of
\ntopping up or you know, <\/p>\n
898
\n00:48:15,900 –> 00:48:19,600
\nrefilling Your Vessel with oil.
\nIt’s a binary response oil or no<\/p>\n
899
\n00:48:19,600 –> 00:48:21,100
\noil.
\nThat’s that’s that’s all that’s <\/p>\n
900
\n00:48:21,100 –> 00:48:26,000
\nthe difference between the wise
\nand the foolish virgins and it’s<\/p>\n
901
\n00:48:26,000 –> 00:48:28,900
\nwhen the bridegroom comes, those
\nwith oil are able to light up, <\/p>\n
902
\n00:48:28,900 –> 00:48:32,900
\ntheir torches, duck it into
\ntheir flask, light it up. <\/p>\n
903
\n00:48:32,900 –> 00:48:35,100
\nAnd they’re ready, they’re there
\nat the brought when the <\/p>\n
904
\n00:48:35,100 –> 00:48:38,400
\nbridegroom finally comes,
\nthey’ve lasted right through <\/p>\n
905
\n00:48:38,400 –> 00:48:43,500
\nthat whole time with oil.
\nAnd I think what Really seen as <\/p>\n
906
\n00:48:43,500 –> 00:48:47,300
\none of the principal lessons in
\nthis Parable is those that he do<\/p>\n
907
\n00:48:47,300 –> 00:48:48,900
\nunto.
\nThe end will be saved those who <\/p>\n
908
\n00:48:48,900 –> 00:48:51,200
\nhave oil will be their right to
\nthe very end. <\/p>\n
909
\n00:48:51,200 –> 00:48:53,000
\nThe others don’t have oil needs
\nsort of. <\/p>\n
910
\n00:48:53,000 –> 00:48:54,700
\nThey Nick off.
\nBasically, they do they all they<\/p>\n
911
\n00:48:54,700 –> 00:48:58,000
\nall go.
\nRun away to find oil and it’s <\/p>\n
912
\n00:48:58,000 –> 00:48:59,400
\nthey’re not there.
\nThat’s the point. <\/p>\n
913
\n00:48:59,400 –> 00:49:03,600
\nThey’re not there at the end.
\nNow how do we apply that to? <\/p>\n
914
\n00:49:03,700 –> 00:49:07,700
\nWhat we’ve been talking about?
\nWell again, we’ve got a timeline<\/p>\n
915
\n00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:09,900
\nthat runs here in the in the
\nblue. <\/p>\n
916
\n00:49:11,000 –> 00:49:13,900
\nThose that take off.
\nAnd a flask are there right? <\/p>\n
917
\n00:49:13,900 –> 00:49:16,200
\nAt the end when the bridegroom
\ncomes, they’re there, they <\/p>\n
918
\n00:49:16,200 –> 00:49:20,300
\nhaven’t run off, they’re not out
\nof the event. <\/p>\n
919
\n00:49:20,700 –> 00:49:23,800
\nAnd so we start off at baptism
\nand we don’t really know who’s <\/p>\n
920
\n00:49:23,800 –> 00:49:24,600
\ngoing to be there right at the
\nend. <\/p>\n
921
\n00:49:24,600 –> 00:49:26,900
\nDo we?
\nAnd I’m sure all of us are <\/p>\n
922
\n00:49:26,900 –> 00:49:28,500
\nshocked.
\nAs I am about some of our <\/p>\n
923
\n00:49:28,500 –> 00:49:33,000
\nfriends and and people that seem
\nto be front and center in the <\/p>\n
924
\n00:49:33,000 –> 00:49:36,300
\nwork of the truth and have been
\na central part of our lives with<\/p>\n
925
\n00:49:36,300 –> 00:49:38,400
\nhim, and looked up to who are
\nnot there at the end. <\/p>\n
926
\n00:49:39,100 –> 00:49:43,000
\nAnd I’ve just made some
\nhypothetical Is he a brother <\/p>\n
927
\n00:49:43,000 –> 00:49:45,600
\nrakes leaves?
\nHis wife and marries the <\/p>\n
928
\n00:49:45,600 –> 00:49:47,200
\nsecretary at work and leaves the
\ntruth? <\/p>\n
929
\n00:49:47,200 –> 00:49:49,500
\nI mean that’s happened.
\nThat happens in his appearing to<\/p>\n
930
\n00:49:49,508 –> 00:49:51,600
\nhappen, more and more sister,
\nwhy? <\/p>\n
931
\n00:49:51,600 –> 00:49:54,100
\nShe leaves the truth and goes
\nand joins a Pentecostal Church <\/p>\n
932
\n00:49:55,100 –> 00:49:56,800
\nbrother.
\nAnd sister said, they basically <\/p>\n
933
\n00:49:56,800 –> 00:50:00,000
\njust drift away, they don’t show
\nup at the meeting anymore. <\/p>\n
934
\n00:50:00,000 –> 00:50:02,300
\nThey sort of drift out of the
\ntruth and eventually they <\/p>\n
935
\n00:50:02,300 –> 00:50:04,100
\nconsider themselves, agnostic,
\nor atheist. <\/p>\n
936
\n00:50:04,100 –> 00:50:07,600
\nA just drifted away at the end
\nof the day. <\/p>\n
937
\n00:50:07,600 –> 00:50:10,400
\nThey had no oil and we don’t
\nknow who has all the one who was<\/p>\n
938
\n00:50:10,400 –> 00:50:15,200
\nnot the the result of the end
\ndetermines our, are they there <\/p>\n
939
\n00:50:15,200 –> 00:50:18,500
\nat the end with their lamps?
\nLit, up to welcome the <\/p>\n
940
\n00:50:18,500 –> 00:50:21,600
\nbridegroom that’s indications
\nbit, like in John of study, we <\/p>\n
941
\n00:50:21,600 –> 00:50:23,600
\ndon’t know who’s built on the
\nsand, who’s built on the Rock. <\/p>\n
942
\n00:50:23,600 –> 00:50:26,700
\nIt’s not we don’t know that.
\nThe, the results at the end, <\/p>\n
943
\n00:50:26,700 –> 00:50:31,300
\nthose who survive the storms of
\nlife and there at the end have <\/p>\n
944
\n00:50:31,300 –> 00:50:32,800
\nbuilt on the Rock, That’s How
\nwe’ll know. <\/p>\n
945
\n00:50:33,500 –> 00:50:36,500
\nAnd so in this case, the same
\nthing those with oil are the <\/p>\n
946
\n00:50:36,500 –> 00:50:38,600
\nones that are there at the end
\nto welcome the bride groom, and <\/p>\n
947
\n00:50:38,600 –> 00:50:42,600
\nhe comes And as I said, I think
\nit’s, I think this concept in <\/p>\n
948
\n00:50:42,607 –> 00:50:44,200
\nMatthew 24.
\nIs those that enjoy it to? <\/p>\n
949
\n00:50:44,207 –> 00:50:48,000
\nThe end is really the power of
\nthis study. <\/p>\n
950
\n00:50:49,100 –> 00:50:52,700
\nNow, just in the few minutes
\nthat remain, want us to think <\/p>\n
951
\n00:50:52,700 –> 00:50:55,700
\nabout verses that seem to go
\nagainst everything. <\/p>\n
952
\n00:50:55,700 –> 00:50:59,600
\nI’ve said this week, and there’s
\nquite a number and particularly <\/p>\n
953
\n00:51:00,500 –> 00:51:04,700
\nwhat often happens is, sometimes
\nThese verses can almost become <\/p>\n
954
\n00:51:04,800 –> 00:51:08,200
\nthese phrases and verses become
\nalmost mantras in our occlusal <\/p>\n
955
\n00:51:08,200 –> 00:51:11,300
\nenvironments, depending where
\nwe’ve, grown up and, and what <\/p>\n
956
\n00:51:11,300 –> 00:51:13,500
\nthings were emphasizing.
\nAnd, and there’s a lot of versus<\/p>\n
957
\n00:51:13,500 –> 00:51:17,400
\na lot of Concepts that that have
\nbeen thrown up used by chairman <\/p>\n
958
\n00:51:17,400 –> 00:51:19,900
\nused in prayers, use that young,
\npeople’s events used. <\/p>\n
959
\n00:51:19,900 –> 00:51:22,300
\nAll our life.
\nThat would indicate that <\/p>\n
960
\n00:51:23,700 –> 00:51:26,300
\nsalvation is a scarcity.
\nThat not many will be say that <\/p>\n
961
\n00:51:26,300 –> 00:51:28,600
\nit’s hard to be saved.
\nThat only a few will be saved in<\/p>\n
962
\n00:51:28,607 –> 00:51:32,900
\nthese verses probably come in
\nyour mind right now. and even <\/p>\n
963
\n00:51:32,900 –> 00:51:36,400
\nthough you might have, Consented
\nto the some of my Concepts <\/p>\n
964
\n00:51:36,400 –> 00:51:38,300
\nthrough the week.
\nAnd then single brother, Carter <\/p>\n
965
\n00:51:38,300 –> 00:51:40,600
\nsays, and brother tenant and
\nbrother Robertson Brother, <\/p>\n
966
\n00:51:40,600 –> 00:51:43,600
\nThomas, are you still got these
\nniggling thoughts in your mind <\/p>\n
967
\n00:51:43,600 –> 00:51:44,800
\nthinking?
\nBut what about? <\/p>\n
968
\n00:51:44,800 –> 00:51:46,500
\nBut what about, but what about,
\nbut what about? <\/p>\n
969
\n00:51:46,900 –> 00:51:49,500
\nAnd we just want to quickly.
\nLook at some of these, as I <\/p>\n
970
\n00:51:49,500 –> 00:51:51,800
\nsaid, this is really a whole
\nsession, really more of a <\/p>\n
971
\n00:51:51,808 –> 00:51:54,300
\nworkshop session but we’re just
\ngoing to put these up for us to <\/p>\n
972
\n00:51:54,300 –> 00:51:57,600
\nthink about now.
\nOne of the things that a lot of <\/p>\n
973
\n00:51:57,600 –> 00:52:00,800
\npeople find daunting is the
\nabsolute demands that Jesus <\/p>\n
974
\n00:52:00,800 –> 00:52:05,200
\nmakes and they unequivocal the
\ndemands of Jesus are Perfection <\/p>\n
975
\n00:52:05,200 –> 00:52:09,200
\nand nothing less.
\nAnd and that we find that don’t <\/p>\n
976
\n00:52:09,200 –> 00:52:11,200
\nbecause none of us.
\nNone of us know will ever <\/p>\n
977
\n00:52:11,200 –> 00:52:14,100
\nachieve that.
\nAny of the Apostle Paul with <\/p>\n
978
\n00:52:14,100 –> 00:52:16,500
\nthat, if that was, if that was
\nhis perspective as well, would <\/p>\n
979
\n00:52:16,500 –> 00:52:18,800
\nfind it hard to say there’s a
\ncrown of righteousness because <\/p>\n
980
\n00:52:18,800 –> 00:52:21,100
\nhe never achieved Perfection.
\nI mean, we know from Romans 7, <\/p>\n
981
\n00:52:21,100 –> 00:52:23,500
\nwe know from his life that he
\nthere were things that he did <\/p>\n
982
\n00:52:23,500 –> 00:52:25,600
\nwrong.
\nSo how do we reconcile this <\/p>\n
983
\n00:52:25,600 –> 00:52:27,100
\naudio?
\nThis absolute demand for <\/p>\n
984
\n00:52:27,100 –> 00:52:28,900
\nPerfection.
\nThere’s no there’s no middle <\/p>\n
985
\n00:52:28,900 –> 00:52:31,600
\nground with Christ.
\nSo as I said before it’s, you <\/p>\n
986
\n00:52:31,600 –> 00:52:34,700
\nknow, even the parable of the
\ntalents, the only the to he <\/p>\n
987
\n00:52:34,700 –> 00:52:38,800
\ngives two extremes, he says zero
\nresponse or zero return on my <\/p>\n
988
\n00:52:38,900 –> 00:52:43,300
\ninvestment or 100%.
\nSo like it’s it’s Isn’t he? <\/p>\n
989
\n00:52:43,300 –> 00:52:46,600
\nThe role sort of situation when
\nyou think about it in the <\/p>\n
990
\n00:52:46,607 –> 00:52:49,900
\nrighteousness of God that has to
\nbe the demand of Christ. <\/p>\n
991
\n00:52:50,200 –> 00:52:52,900
\nHe caught me.
\nHe can’t say look. <\/p>\n
992
\n00:52:54,000 –> 00:52:58,500
\nI represent God and and I’m
\nshowing what God’s like and look<\/p>\n
993
\n00:52:58,500 –> 00:53:01,300
\nif you just Reach This sort of
\nlevel than the should be. <\/p>\n
994
\n00:53:01,300 –> 00:53:04,200
\nOkay, he has to make this
\nabsolutely man, he’s the king <\/p>\n
995
\n00:53:04,700 –> 00:53:07,000
\nand in life throughout all
\nhistory, those great men of <\/p>\n
996
\n00:53:07,400 –> 00:53:09,500
\nhistory like Napoleon or
\nAlexander the Great, or whether <\/p>\n
997
\n00:53:09,500 –> 00:53:12,800
\nthey might be their favorite,
\nquite absolute commitment. <\/p>\n
998
\n00:53:13,000 –> 00:53:15,200
\nWhere you’ve got to give you a
\nlife for them and follow them <\/p>\n
999
\n00:53:15,700 –> 00:53:17,900
\nunstintingly in that absolute
\nway. <\/p>\n
1000
\n00:53:18,100 –> 00:53:20,300
\nAnd Jesus is the king and
\nparticularly Matthew’s gospel. <\/p>\n
1001
\n00:53:20,300 –> 00:53:23,300
\nHe is presenting himself as this
\nKing and his demands are <\/p>\n
1002
\n00:53:23,300 –> 00:53:25,900
\nabsolute now.
\nYes, that’s true. <\/p>\n
1003
\n00:53:25,900 –> 00:53:29,300
\nBut we have to read that and
\nthink about that and take that <\/p>\n
1004
\n00:53:29,308 –> 00:53:31,800
\ninto account in the context of
\nall of Jesus life. <\/p>\n
1005
\n00:53:32,500 –> 00:53:35,900
\nWe Jesus talked to the woman
\nwho’s been taking adultery and, <\/p>\n
1006
\n00:53:35,900 –> 00:53:39,300
\nand other statements he makes
\nwhere there seems to be a <\/p>\n
1007
\n00:53:39,300 –> 00:53:42,800
\nbreakdown of that absolute
\nrequirement, that he seems to <\/p>\n
1008
\n00:53:42,800 –> 00:53:48,100
\ndemand.
\nAnd this this idea of this, it <\/p>\n
1009
\n00:53:48,100 –> 00:53:51,400
\njust think about this idea of
\nthis absolute absolutes on both <\/p>\n
1010
\n00:53:51,400 –> 00:53:52,900
\nsides of the Ledger.
\nAbsolutely. <\/p>\n
1011
\n00:53:52,900 –> 00:53:56,200
\nWhen he when he presents those
\nwho rejected they are, Absolute <\/p>\n
1012
\n00:53:56,200 –> 00:54:00,700
\nTotal obvious people that will
\nbe rejected. <\/p>\n
1013
\n00:54:00,700 –> 00:54:04,400
\nThose are accepted our offer.
\nMost Angelic and reached an <\/p>\n
1014
\n00:54:04,400 –> 00:54:07,300
\nabsolute perfection, and, and
\nthey are the two extremes. <\/p>\n
1015
\n00:54:07,300 –> 00:54:11,200
\nAnd Jesus saying, in your life,
\nyou have to be pushing towards <\/p>\n
1016
\n00:54:11,200 –> 00:54:14,400
\nthat.
\nThat, that extreme in a sense <\/p>\n
1017
\n00:54:14,900 –> 00:54:17,400
\nmoving in John, has study was
\nexcellent. <\/p>\n
1018
\n00:54:17,400 –> 00:54:19,400
\nHow are you?
\nHe bought these two extremes to,<\/p>\n
1019
\n00:54:19,400 –> 00:54:21,600
\nto ahead really didn’t said, you
\nknow, you’ve got these two or <\/p>\n
1020
\n00:54:21,600 –> 00:54:25,600
\nthree, you’ve got almost a
\npsychopathic type person who’s <\/p>\n
1021
\n00:54:25,900 –> 00:54:28,500
\nmade a list of all their
\nachievements and they know they <\/p>\n
1022
\n00:54:28,500 –> 00:54:30,000
\ncan rattle them off.
\nAnd say I’ve done all these <\/p>\n
1023
\n00:54:30,000 –> 00:54:31,700
\ngreat things.
\nHaven’t I done these great <\/p>\n
1024
\n00:54:31,700 –> 00:54:33,400
\nthings in there.
\nAware of them and they’re <\/p>\n
1025
\n00:54:33,800 –> 00:54:36,300
\nconscious of them and they’re
\nthe verses before. <\/p>\n
1026
\n00:54:36,300 –> 00:54:37,800
\nTalk about sheep in Wolf’s
\nclothing. <\/p>\n
1027
\n00:54:37,800 –> 00:54:41,600
\nThis is a, this is a, you know,
\nthis person is obviously not <\/p>\n
1028
\n00:54:41,600 –> 00:54:43,100
\ngoing to be saved.
\nThey just got this absolute <\/p>\n
1029
\n00:54:43,100 –> 00:54:47,200
\nextreme approach, to just doing
\nthings to be seen of men. <\/p>\n
1030
\n00:54:47,200 –> 00:54:50,300
\nAnd they’re just, it’s just
\nthat, like I said, almost <\/p>\n
1031
\n00:54:50,600 –> 00:54:54,200
\npsychopathy, The Other Extreme
\nwas these people that are <\/p>\n
1032
\n00:54:54,200 –> 00:54:55,600
\ndepicted in the parable of the
\nsheep. <\/p>\n
1033
\n00:54:55,600 –> 00:54:59,500
\nAnd goats who have this sort of
\naxiomatic risk Faith response in<\/p>\n
1034
\n00:54:59,500 –> 00:55:01,200
\nlike whether they’re virtually
\ndoing things almost <\/p>\n
1035
\n00:55:01,200 –> 00:55:04,100
\nautomatically and Even a way
\nthat they doing all these <\/p>\n
1036
\n00:55:04,100 –> 00:55:07,100
\nthings, which again, I think,
\nyou know, it’s something that I <\/p>\n
1037
\n00:55:07,100 –> 00:55:10,200
\ncan’t honestly say I’m anywhere
\nnear so. <\/p>\n
1038
\n00:55:10,500 –> 00:55:13,800
\nSo these extremes represented by
\nChrist to give us a direction <\/p>\n
1039
\n00:55:13,800 –> 00:55:16,700
\nthat we should be following and
\nthat there’s he demands absolute<\/p>\n
1040
\n00:55:16,700 –> 00:55:20,400
\nperfection in that way.
\nAnd what we have got to on look <\/p>\n
1041
\n00:55:20,400 –> 00:55:22,900
\nat this but there’s a style of
\nlanguage Middle East and in the <\/p>\n
1042
\n00:55:22,900 –> 00:55:25,100
\nMiddle Eastern Riders.
\nUse a lot couldn’t ellipses <\/p>\n
1043
\n00:55:25,100 –> 00:55:27,400
\nwhich you want to look up and
\ntalk about where the look, we’re<\/p>\n
1044
\n00:55:27,400 –> 00:55:31,300
\nadding an extreme statement is
\nmade and you have to fill in the<\/p>\n
1045
\n00:55:31,300 –> 00:55:35,100
\ngaps in the sense and make sense
\nof it based on context. <\/p>\n
1046
\n00:55:35,100 –> 00:55:37,100
\nEtc.
\nSo here is a classic case in <\/p>\n
1047
\n00:55:37,100 –> 00:55:40,500
\nLuke 14 and this is one of the
\nstatements of you cannot be my <\/p>\n
1048
\n00:55:40,500 –> 00:55:43,200
\ndisciple statements, that that
\nworry is a lot. <\/p>\n
1049
\n00:55:43,900 –> 00:55:47,800
\nHe says, if any man come to me
\nand hate not his father, his <\/p>\n
1050
\n00:55:47,800 –> 00:55:49,800
\nmother, his wife, and children.
\nBrothers and sisters. <\/p>\n
1051
\n00:55:49,800 –> 00:55:52,500
\nYeah, he’s own life.
\nHe cannot be my disciple. <\/p>\n
1052
\n00:55:52,500 –> 00:55:54,600
\nJust forget it.
\nYou’re just not even going to be<\/p>\n
1053
\n00:55:54,900 –> 00:55:59,100
\ndon’t even bother trying.
\nThat’s the initial impression <\/p>\n
1054
\n00:55:59,100 –> 00:56:02,600
\nwithout Takin taking idiom and
\nand another aspects into <\/p>\n
1055
\n00:56:02,600 –> 00:56:04,200
\naccount.
\nThis, this audio will, you know,<\/p>\n
1056
\n00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:07,700
\nI don’t hate my mother brother
\nsister and we sort of intervene <\/p>\n
1057
\n00:56:07,700 –> 00:56:11,700
\nand say well by comparison.
\nBut even by comparison, really <\/p>\n
1058
\n00:56:11,700 –> 00:56:15,100
\nhonestly, does anyone really
\nachieve that sort of level of <\/p>\n
1059
\n00:56:15,100 –> 00:56:18,400
\ndifference between their hatred
\nof my parents as compared to my <\/p>\n
1060
\n00:56:18,400 –> 00:56:22,100
\nlove of It’s a it’s an extreme
\nstatement isn’t it on any level <\/p>\n
1061
\n00:56:22,100 –> 00:56:25,100
\nand it’s not consistent with
\nChrist’s own words about <\/p>\n
1062
\n00:56:25,100 –> 00:56:27,000
\nhonoring our mother and father
\nEtc. <\/p>\n
1063
\n00:56:27,000 –> 00:56:31,500
\nSo it requires a sense of
\ninterpretation about it even <\/p>\n
1064
\n00:56:31,500 –> 00:56:33,500
\nthough we black and white.
\nIt’s there in black and white. <\/p>\n
1065
\n00:56:33,500 –> 00:56:35,800
\nYou cannot be my disciple.
\nWhat’s the back and wipe <\/p>\n
1066
\n00:56:35,800 –> 00:56:40,300
\nslightly clearer?
\nSo Simplistically. <\/p>\n
1067
\n00:56:40,300 –> 00:56:42,300
\nWe gotta we gotta we gotta be
\ncareful sometimes when were <\/p>\n
1068
\n00:56:42,300 –> 00:56:44,400
\ninterpreting these words and
\nthen applying them to ourselves,<\/p>\n
1069
\n00:56:44,400 –> 00:56:46,500
\nthere is an absolute demand of
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
1070
\n00:56:46,500 –> 00:56:49,900
\nAbsolutely Man compared to your
\nlove for your family, you must <\/p>\n
1071
\n00:56:49,900 –> 00:56:53,400
\nhate them compared to how you
\nrespect and reverence and follow<\/p>\n
1072
\n00:56:53,400 –> 00:56:58,000
\nand obey me and sometimes in our
\nlife we got to make decisions to<\/p>\n
1073
\n00:56:58,008 –> 00:57:02,900
\ngo against our family because of
\nprinciples Etc and they do come <\/p>\n
1074
\n00:57:02,900 –> 00:57:06,200
\nto the fore but there it’s
\npresented in this sort of such <\/p>\n
1075
\n00:57:06,200 –> 00:57:08,700
\nStark way.
\nAs I said, the parable of <\/p>\n
1076
\n00:57:08,700 –> 00:57:14,800
\ntalents the examples are, as I
\nsaid, 0 or 100 zero response <\/p>\n
1077
\n00:57:14,800 –> 00:57:18,100
\nfrom the servant the lazy
\nservant who buried his talent or<\/p>\n
1078
\n00:57:18,100 –> 00:57:21,500
\n100% achievement.
\nAnd again, where do I stand in <\/p>\n
1079
\n00:57:21,500 –> 00:57:23,200
\nit?
\nI don’t think I’m 10, I don’t <\/p>\n
1080
\n00:57:23,200 –> 00:57:24,700
\nthink I’m here.
\nI definitely don’t think I’m <\/p>\n
1081
\n00:57:24,707 –> 00:57:27,300
\n100%.
\nSo what where do I see myself? <\/p>\n
1082
\n00:57:27,300 –> 00:57:31,400
\nAnd again, the Lord gives the
\nparables in such an extreme way <\/p>\n
1083
\n00:57:31,400 –> 00:57:34,800
\nbecause he’s calling us to this
\nabsolute perfection and absolute<\/p>\n
1084
\n00:57:35,800 –> 00:57:39,700
\ntotal commitment to God, even
\nKnowing that that that, you <\/p>\n
1085
\n00:57:39,707 –> 00:57:42,000
\nknow, is not actually going to
\nbe achieved by any of us. <\/p>\n
1086
\n00:57:42,800 –> 00:57:44,700
\nIn fact, I’d suggest that on our
\nfirst night. <\/p>\n
1087
\n00:57:45,100 –> 00:57:48,800
\nHe says, when he’s interviewing
\nthe lazy servant he says, like <\/p>\n
1088
\n00:57:48,800 –> 00:57:51,400
\nwhy don’t you just put your
\ntalent in the bank just get <\/p>\n
1089
\n00:57:51,400 –> 00:57:53,200
\ninterest?
\nAt least I would have been happy<\/p>\n
1090
\n00:57:53,200 –> 00:57:56,800
\nwith interest which is like a 4%
\nreturn it if you’d done <\/p>\n
1091
\n00:57:56,800 –> 00:58:00,200
\nsomething, you know?
\nSo so the the Ark of Salvation <\/p>\n
1092
\n00:58:00,200 –> 00:58:04,200
\nif you want to Hypothetically,
\nextended isn’t just a hundred <\/p>\n
1093
\n00:58:04,200 –> 00:58:07,600
\npercent, but it there are other
\nlayers to that. <\/p>\n
1094
\n00:58:09,000 –> 00:58:10,900
\nWhat about the other Parable?
\nThe parable of the sower. <\/p>\n
1095
\n00:58:11,600 –> 00:58:12,500
\nHave you thought about the power
\nof the? <\/p>\n
1096
\n00:58:12,508 –> 00:58:16,200
\nSo in the terms of enduring to
\nthe end, sometimes we think of <\/p>\n
1097
\n00:58:16,200 –> 00:58:19,200
\nit as just a different grounds,
\ndifferent responses, that’s it. <\/p>\n
1098
\n00:58:19,200 –> 00:58:22,100
\nBut I think there’s more in it
\nthan just a response initial <\/p>\n
1099
\n00:58:22,100 –> 00:58:24,900
\nresponse.
\nSo there’s an endurance building<\/p>\n
1100
\n00:58:24,900 –> 00:58:28,400
\nto this Parable, right up until
\nthe production of Fruit by in <\/p>\n
1101
\n00:58:28,400 –> 00:58:32,100
\ndifferent measures.
\nSo there’s a three different <\/p>\n
1102
\n00:58:32,100 –> 00:58:33,900
\ngrounds.
\nThat’s the Wayside the Stony <\/p>\n
1103
\n00:58:33,900 –> 00:58:38,100
\nground the Thorns to meet
\nappears the Wayside never ever <\/p>\n
1104
\n00:58:38,100 –> 00:58:39,100
\ncome.
\nThe Christ. <\/p>\n
1105
\n00:58:39,100 –> 00:58:40,800
\nThose are the seed that fell on
\nthe wayside. <\/p>\n
1106
\n00:58:40,800 –> 00:58:44,600
\nIt says, they do not believe
\nthey never believed, which means<\/p>\n
1107
\n00:58:44,600 –> 00:58:47,100
\nI never had Faith.
\nThey never were in Christ. <\/p>\n
1108
\n00:58:47,400 –> 00:58:51,100
\nHowever, the Stony ground the
\nThorns did begin their life in <\/p>\n
1109
\n00:58:51,100 –> 00:58:54,800
\nChrist in Salvation, says a
\nStony ground though, it says <\/p>\n
1110
\n00:58:54,800 –> 00:59:00,200
\nthey withered away and Jesus
\nsays they received them <\/p>\n
1111
\n00:59:00,300 –> 00:59:01,800
\npersecution or embarrassment
\nwhatever. <\/p>\n
1112
\n00:59:01,800 –> 00:59:05,800
\nAnd it says they fall away or
\nthe Greek means they depart or <\/p>\n
1113
\n00:59:05,800 –> 00:59:08,200
\nthey’re removed.
\nSo sometime in their life, <\/p>\n
1114
\n00:59:09,200 –> 00:59:12,200
\nThey’re like, they’re like the
\nput the version doesn’t have the<\/p>\n
1115
\n00:59:12,200 –> 00:59:14,200
\noil.
\nThey like the person who built <\/p>\n
1116
\n00:59:14,200 –> 00:59:16,100
\non the on the sand and not the
\nrock. <\/p>\n
1117
\n00:59:16,100 –> 00:59:18,800
\nThey are for persecution or
\ntrolls in their life, whatever <\/p>\n
1118
\n00:59:19,000 –> 00:59:22,900
\nthey remove themselves from the
\npale of Salvation, the Thorns, <\/p>\n
1119
\n00:59:22,900 –> 00:59:26,000
\nthe same sort of idea, it’s a
\nresult of behavior. <\/p>\n
1120
\n00:59:26,000 –> 00:59:29,800
\nThey become choked and that word
\nchoked in Strong’s means to be <\/p>\n
1121
\n00:59:29,800 –> 00:59:33,300
\ndrowned or to become strangled.
\nIt’s a process. <\/p>\n
1122
\n00:59:33,300 –> 00:59:36,000
\nIt’s not just something that
\nhappens automatically and the <\/p>\n
1123
\n00:59:36,000 –> 00:59:39,300
\nvery first sign of the, you
\nknow, the Busch trying to sort <\/p>\n
1124
\n00:59:39,300 –> 00:59:42,800
\nof creep around their legs does
\nnot mean that are outside the <\/p>\n
1125
\n00:59:42,800 –> 00:59:44,800
\nKingdom at that point.
\nIt was a process where they <\/p>\n
1126
\n00:59:44,800 –> 00:59:48,200
\nbecame choked and therefore it
\nsays they became Barren and bore<\/p>\n
1127
\n00:59:48,200 –> 00:59:53,100
\nno fruit and they put themselves
\noutside of Salvation in that <\/p>\n
1128
\n00:59:53,100 –> 00:59:55,400
\nway.
\nAs far as the big question, <\/p>\n
1129
\n00:59:55,400 –> 00:59:58,000
\neveryone’s everyone’s got their
\nmind, maybe says, well, okay, <\/p>\n
1130
\n00:59:58,000 –> 00:59:59,900
\nthese put their Stony ground in
\nthe Thorns. <\/p>\n
1131
\n01:00:00,300 –> 01:00:03,100
\nThey started a process that
\nended up with them being choked <\/p>\n
1132
\n01:00:03,100 –> 01:00:06,900
\nor having fallen away.
\nAt what point do they then put <\/p>\n
1133
\n01:00:06,900 –> 01:00:11,900
\nthemselves outside of Salvation
\nand where does this, where does <\/p>\n
1134
\n01:00:11,900 –> 01:00:14,200
\nthis actually happen?
\nThis is the thing we don’t know <\/p>\n
1135
\n01:00:15,000 –> 01:00:16,600
\nand this is why we have
\nexaltation. <\/p>\n
1136
\n01:00:16,600 –> 01:00:19,500
\nThis while we have bustled and
\nBible schools is where we keep <\/p>\n
1137
\n01:00:19,500 –> 01:00:21,900
\nstrengthening ourselves and
\ngoing back to God’s word and <\/p>\n
1138
\n01:00:22,100 –> 01:00:26,100
\nrefine in retuning out our A
\nlife and examining ourselves and<\/p>\n
1139
\n01:00:26,200 –> 01:00:30,200
\nand be uplifted and refocus on
\nthe Beatitudes, and the fruit of<\/p>\n
1140
\n01:00:30,207 –> 01:00:32,800
\nthe spirit, all these things,
\nbecause we’ve got to keep going <\/p>\n
1141
\n01:00:33,600 –> 01:00:35,700
\ntowards Christ.
\nThat’s that’s the whole purpose <\/p>\n
1142
\n01:00:35,700 –> 01:00:37,800
\nbehind it.
\nThat we don’t start a downward <\/p>\n
1143
\n01:00:37,800 –> 01:00:41,600
\nTrend that eventually can lead
\nus outside God’s pay or <\/p>\n
1144
\n01:00:41,600 –> 01:00:44,000
\nsalvation and we need to provoke
\neach other. <\/p>\n
1145
\n01:00:44,000 –> 01:00:46,900
\nThat’s what you know, Hebrew
\nsays, provoke one, another unto <\/p>\n
1146
\n01:00:46,900 –> 01:00:49,200
\nlove and to Good Works.
\nNot that we’re saying you’re not<\/p>\n
1147
\n01:00:49,200 –> 01:00:51,000
\ngoing to be the kingdom.
\nIf you don’t do this or that or <\/p>\n
1148
\n01:00:51,000 –> 01:00:54,100
\nyou don’t do, you know, do this.
\nWe don’t speak here tonight. <\/p>\n
1149
\n01:00:54,500 –> 01:00:58,500
\nWe’re sort of saying lift our
\ngame because God has given us <\/p>\n
1150
\n01:00:58,500 –> 01:01:03,200
\nsalvation and be aware of
\npitfalls and things that we can <\/p>\n
1151
\n01:01:03,200 –> 01:01:05,500
\ndo.
\nThat can start us on a path that<\/p>\n
1152
\n01:01:05,500 –> 01:01:08,800
\nleads eventually to destruction
\nand that’s that’s the whole <\/p>\n
1153
\n01:01:08,800 –> 01:01:13,100
\npurpose behind it.
\nOkay, let’s just finish up with <\/p>\n
1154
\n01:01:13,100 –> 01:01:15,500
\na few IDs.
\nWho will definitely not be in <\/p>\n
1155
\n01:01:15,500 –> 01:01:18,000
\nthe kingdom and this is, I think
\nthis helps us get a perspective <\/p>\n
1156
\n01:01:18,000 –> 01:01:20,600
\non things as well.
\nThere are cut there a few times <\/p>\n
1157
\n01:01:20,600 –> 01:01:23,900
\nin the Epistles we were given
\nlists of who will not be in the <\/p>\n
1158
\n01:01:23,900 –> 01:01:25,800
\nKingdom.
\nSorry, brother two minutes. <\/p>\n
1159
\n01:01:26,000 –> 01:01:28,500
\nOkay, will you?
\nWe can do it. <\/p>\n
1160
\n01:01:29,500 –> 01:01:32,200
\nOkay, these lists, are all
\npretty similar. <\/p>\n
1161
\n01:01:32,300 –> 01:01:34,100
\nThese people will not inherit
\nthe kingdom of God. <\/p>\n
1162
\n01:01:34,200 –> 01:01:36,500
\nFornicators idolaters
\nadulterers, effeminate abused <\/p>\n
1163
\n01:01:36,500 –> 01:01:37,800
\nthemselves.
\nMankind thieves, Covetous <\/p>\n
1164
\n01:01:37,800 –> 01:01:39,800
\ndrunkards.
\nRevilers extortionist shall not <\/p>\n
1165
\n01:01:39,800 –> 01:01:41,000
\ninherit.
\nThe kingdom of God. <\/p>\n
1166
\n01:01:41,600 –> 01:01:44,200
\nAnd I know I’ve heard talks
\nwhere a brother will say oh look<\/p>\n
1167
\n01:01:44,200 –> 01:01:46,800
\nat all these terrible things but
\nthere’s drunkenness in there. <\/p>\n
1168
\n01:01:46,800 –> 01:01:50,800
\nSo you shouldn’t drink alcohol.
\nThat’s not that’s not quite a an<\/p>\n
1169
\n01:01:50,800 –> 01:01:53,200
\nhonest interpretation of the
\nbottom looking at the context <\/p>\n
1170
\n01:01:53,200 –> 01:01:56,200
\nand the position.
\nIt’s it’s a lifestyle, their of <\/p>\n
1171
\n01:01:56,200 –> 01:01:59,400
\ndrunkenness and reveling.
\nAnd that is, but he’s part of <\/p>\n
1172
\n01:01:59,408 –> 01:02:02,100
\nthe lifestyle that puts someone
\noutside the kingdom of God, I’m <\/p>\n
1173
\n01:02:02,100 –> 01:02:04,200
\ntalking very fast e.
\nYou can see the repetition of <\/p>\n
1174
\n01:02:04,207 –> 01:02:07,900
\nall these ideas in Galatians and
\nEphesians. <\/p>\n
1175
\n01:02:08,200 –> 01:02:10,100
\nThese people that will not be in
\nthe kingdom of God. <\/p>\n
1176
\n01:02:10,900 –> 01:02:12,800
\nAnd I think it’s the audio whole
\nmonk. <\/p>\n
1177
\n01:02:12,800 –> 01:02:14,700
\nI don’t even know if anyone
\nknows of a whoremonger is, but <\/p>\n
1178
\n01:02:14,900 –> 01:02:18,200
\nit seems to be in the context of
\nthe first century writings a <\/p>\n
1179
\n01:02:18,207 –> 01:02:22,400
\nmale prostitute, this is a
\nlifestyle so obnoxious that it <\/p>\n
1180
\n01:02:22,400 –> 01:02:25,400
\nputs you outside the kingdom of
\nGod, which which makes sense <\/p>\n
1181
\n01:02:26,600 –> 01:02:29,000
\nOkay, we are rush through these
\nand I say I’m sorry, I’ve gotta <\/p>\n
1182
\n01:02:29,000 –> 01:02:32,000
\nrush really so quickly.
\nI’ll get the paper over for <\/p>\n
1183
\n01:02:32,000 –> 01:02:34,700
\nthose who want to look at these
\nin more detail or my <\/p>\n
1184
\n01:02:34,700 –> 01:02:37,000
\nexplanations for these verses
\nare not mine. <\/p>\n
1185
\n01:02:37,000 –> 01:02:40,400
\nThey’re from either HP Mansfield
\nor brother barley nor brother <\/p>\n
1186
\n01:02:40,400 –> 01:02:43,300
\nCarter, who have looked at the
\ncontext. <\/p>\n
1187
\n01:02:43,300 –> 01:02:47,000
\nAnd the reality of these words,
\nnot just use them in a sort of a<\/p>\n
1188
\n01:02:47,000 –> 01:02:51,200
\nglib sort of cliche way.
\nBut I’ve looked at what they’re <\/p>\n
1189
\n01:02:51,200 –> 01:02:54,800
\nreally referring to.
\nNow, this one here, many people.<\/p>\n
1190
\n01:02:55,900 –> 01:02:59,500
\nI think sort of summarizes the
\nwhole story that they, many are <\/p>\n
1191
\n01:02:59,500 –> 01:03:02,400
\ncalled few are chosen.
\nTherefore, how can I possibly be<\/p>\n
1192
\n01:03:02,400 –> 01:03:04,000
\nin the kingdom?
\nAnd I look around the Ecclesia, <\/p>\n
1193
\n01:03:04,500 –> 01:03:07,300
\nthere’s no way I’m going to be
\none of those called the reality <\/p>\n
1194
\n01:03:07,300 –> 01:03:09,100
\nis, without going into it in too
\nmuch detail. <\/p>\n
1195
\n01:03:09,500 –> 01:03:11,700
\nThe word chosen is a word.
\nCleese’s, it’s a word. <\/p>\n
1196
\n01:03:11,700 –> 01:03:15,400
\nEcclesia, those who have entered
\ninto God’s Ecclesia through <\/p>\n
1197
\n01:03:15,400 –> 01:03:17,900
\nfaith.
\nAre the chosen, the called, in <\/p>\n
1198
\n01:03:17,900 –> 01:03:20,600
\nJesus time, the called were all
\nthose who heard the message, the<\/p>\n
1199
\n01:03:20,600 –> 01:03:23,300
\ncrowds of people, that
\nsurrounded Jesus, and listen to <\/p>\n
1200
\n01:03:23,300 –> 01:03:27,600
\nhis message but never ever join.
\nHe became a follower of Christ. <\/p>\n
1201
\n01:03:29,700 –> 01:03:31,900
\nThis is our list.
\nThis one again these quotes soon<\/p>\n
1202
\n01:03:31,900 –> 01:03:34,400
\nto blow everything I’ve said out
\nof the water when you look at <\/p>\n
1203
\n01:03:34,400 –> 01:03:37,200
\nthem on first reading.
\nBut when you carefully, look at <\/p>\n
1204
\n01:03:37,200 –> 01:03:39,600
\nthem in their context, the story
\nis quite different. <\/p>\n
1205
\n01:03:39,900 –> 01:03:43,900
\nThis is a famous quote First,
\nPeter 4 verse 18 that says, if <\/p>\n
1206
\n01:03:43,900 –> 01:03:47,800
\nthe righteous are scarcely saved
\nyour what will be the what will <\/p>\n
1207
\n01:03:47,800 –> 01:03:50,700
\nhappen to the Sinners.
\nAnd we say, oh the righteous are<\/p>\n
1208
\n01:03:50,700 –> 01:03:54,000
\nscarcely saved.
\nI’ve never once we put a <\/p>\n
1209
\n01:03:54,000 –> 01:03:58,400
\njudgment seat play on years ago.
\nThink my wife was rejected in <\/p>\n
1210
\n01:03:58,400 –> 01:04:01,200
\nthat play, which is fair enough?
\nWe put a judgment seat play on. <\/p>\n
1211
\n01:04:01,800 –> 01:04:05,200
\nAnd one of the lines in the play
\nwas, you know, the person gets <\/p>\n
1212
\n01:04:05,200 –> 01:04:08,600
\nsaved says, I was saved by the
\nskin of my teeth and at one of <\/p>\n
1213
\n01:04:08,600 –> 01:04:11,800
\nthe Brethren of the conference
\ngot up and said, well, I take <\/p>\n
1214
\n01:04:11,800 –> 01:04:14,200
\nobjection with that phrase
\nbecause that’s not how we’re <\/p>\n
1215
\n01:04:14,200 –> 01:04:16,300
\nsaved by the skin of our teeth
\nwere saved because we’re in <\/p>\n
1216
\n01:04:16,300 –> 01:04:19,500
\nChrist now, all of us were all
\nyoung people going held dare. <\/p>\n
1217
\n01:04:19,500 –> 01:04:21,700
\nHe say that.
\nAnd and we’ve got all upset with<\/p>\n
1218
\n01:04:21,700 –> 01:04:24,700
\nhim for trying to ruin our play.
\nAnd one of the things that we <\/p>\n
1219
\n01:04:24,700 –> 01:04:27,100
\nall said, what about first paid
\noff or he has no. <\/p>\n
1220
\n01:04:27,100 –> 01:04:29,300
\nHe’s talking about the righteous
\nscarcely say looking. <\/p>\n
1221
\n01:04:29,500 –> 01:04:31,100
\nBack now he was right and I was
\nwrong. <\/p>\n
1222
\n01:04:31,100 –> 01:04:35,500
\nSo then if you want to, if you
\nwant the answer to this section,<\/p>\n
1223
\n01:04:35,500 –> 01:04:36,800
\nis not talking about the
\nJudgment seat. <\/p>\n
1224
\n01:04:36,800 –> 01:04:40,500
\nThat’s, that’s the that’s the
\nquick answer verse 17 says, the <\/p>\n
1225
\n01:04:40,500 –> 01:04:42,700
\ntime has come that judgment will
\nbegin at the house. <\/p>\n
1226
\n01:04:42,700 –> 01:04:45,500
\nWhat was happening right there.
\nAnd then it was a judgments of <\/p>\n
1227
\n01:04:45,500 –> 01:04:47,500
\nthe trials that first Peter is
\nall about trials. <\/p>\n
1228
\n01:04:47,700 –> 01:04:51,300
\nThe trials were about to count
\nupon the truth through Nero and <\/p>\n
1229
\n01:04:51,300 –> 01:04:53,500
\neventually would lead to the
\ndestruction of the Jewish state <\/p>\n
1230
\n01:04:53,500 –> 01:04:56,800
\nin totality and that was about
\nto happen right there. <\/p>\n
1231
\n01:04:56,800 –> 01:04:59,300
\nAnd then and that’s the if you
\nwant your rebuild HP, man. <\/p>\n
1232
\n01:04:59,500 –> 01:05:02,900
\nDuring the James to Jude
\nExpositor and see that expounded<\/p>\n
1233
\n01:05:02,900 –> 01:05:06,200
\nin a very clear way.
\nNow, there’s another one again. <\/p>\n
1234
\n01:05:06,700 –> 01:05:09,800
\nThis one seems to blow blow my
\nwhole thesis out of the water. <\/p>\n
1235
\n01:05:09,800 –> 01:05:13,200
\nWhen you first read it, it says
\nlook at Israel, they all First <\/p>\n
1236
\n01:05:13,200 –> 01:05:14,300
\nCorinthians and they all came
\nthrough. <\/p>\n
1237
\n01:05:14,300 –> 01:05:16,300
\nThe Red Sea, they were all
\nbaptized into Moses. <\/p>\n
1238
\n01:05:16,300 –> 01:05:19,700
\nThey all eat the spiritual food,
\nwhich was the manner and yet <\/p>\n
1239
\n01:05:19,700 –> 01:05:21,200
\nmost of them died in the
\nwilderness, you go. <\/p>\n
1240
\n01:05:21,200 –> 01:05:23,300
\nWell, they’re all in the
\nocclusion, then are all baptized<\/p>\n
1241
\n01:05:23,500 –> 01:05:26,200
\nand then they most of them
\ndidn’t make it so apply that to <\/p>\n
1242
\n01:05:26,200 –> 01:05:29,600
\nus.
\nNow the reality is the <\/p>\n
1243
\n01:05:29,600 –> 01:05:31,800
\ncomparison.
\nI have a lot of time that dwell <\/p>\n
1244
\n01:05:31,800 –> 01:05:33,100
\non this.
\nA bit longer, the comparison <\/p>\n
1245
\n01:05:33,100 –> 01:05:37,300
\nbetween a saint or a believer in
\nChrist and it Israelite that’s <\/p>\n
1246
\n01:05:37,300 –> 01:05:43,100
\nborn into being a Jew or Hebrew.
\nThe comparison is not, is not <\/p>\n
1247
\n01:05:43,100 –> 01:05:46,000
\ncomplete.
\nIt is used for comparison but it<\/p>\n
1248
\n01:05:46,000 –> 01:05:51,400
\nis not a complete analogy.
\nWhen you look at it and this was<\/p>\n
1249
\n01:05:51,400 –> 01:05:54,900
\na specific warning.
\nIn First Corinthians 10 about <\/p>\n
1250
\n01:05:54,900 –> 01:05:57,200
\nBrethren, who thought they could
\ngo into the idols Temple. <\/p>\n
1251
\n01:05:57,400 –> 01:06:00,000
\nWith those Rich lines,
\nprostitution and prostitution <\/p>\n
1252
\n01:06:00,000 –> 01:06:04,000
\nwas normalized and condoned by
\nSociety in a very <\/p>\n
1253
\n01:06:04,000 –> 01:06:06,000
\nstraightforward way.
\nAnd they thought they could go <\/p>\n
1254
\n01:06:06,000 –> 01:06:10,100
\nthere and eat and drink and be
\npart of that whole lifestyle and<\/p>\n
1255
\n01:06:10,100 –> 01:06:13,800
\nnot be led away and it was a
\ncomp overconfidence. <\/p>\n
1256
\n01:06:13,800 –> 01:06:18,000
\nAnd Paul is saying here, look,
\nlook at Israel with all the <\/p>\n
1257
\n01:06:18,000 –> 01:06:19,900
\nadvantages.
\nI had, they saw the Miracles. <\/p>\n
1258
\n01:06:19,900 –> 01:06:22,000
\nThey saw the power of God, they
\nsaw the sea been open. <\/p>\n
1259
\n01:06:22,400 –> 01:06:26,200
\nAnd the moabite is a moabite.
\nWomen turned up, you know, it’s <\/p>\n
1260
\n01:06:26,200 –> 01:06:30,200
\n23,000 Roy you know that they
\nwere annihilated as a result of <\/p>\n
1261
\n01:06:30,207 –> 01:06:31,800
\nthat he says therefore take
\nheed. <\/p>\n
1262
\n01:06:31,800 –> 01:06:34,600
\nHe thinks he stands and can
\nhandle this lifestyle. <\/p>\n
1263
\n01:06:34,900 –> 01:06:38,700
\nIt will lead you in a way that
\nis detrimental and eventually <\/p>\n
1264
\n01:06:38,900 –> 01:06:40,400
\nput you outside the pale of
\nSalvation. <\/p>\n
1265
\n01:06:40,400 –> 01:06:42,100
\nNow that’s not my
\ninterpretation. <\/p>\n
1266
\n01:06:42,100 –> 01:06:44,000
\nYou read brother Marlene’s notes
\non Corinth. <\/p>\n
1267
\n01:06:44,800 –> 01:06:50,200
\nHe said he no case is Paul’s
\nargument there in no case. <\/p>\n
1268
\n01:06:50,200 –> 01:06:53,100
\nIn Paul’s argument, was the
\nequivalence of present and past <\/p>\n
1269
\n01:06:53,100 –> 01:06:54,700
\ndetails meant to be an absolute
\none. <\/p>\n
1270
\n01:06:54,900 –> 01:06:57,900
\nAbsolutely.
\nNot the comparison of Vacation <\/p>\n
1271
\n01:06:58,300 –> 01:07:00,300
\nis not the same and that we
\ncould talk about that for some <\/p>\n
1272
\n01:07:00,300 –> 01:07:03,800
\ntime.
\nBut these people in Corinth, <\/p>\n
1273
\n01:07:03,800 –> 01:07:06,600
\nthey started on a downward
\nspiral by just going to the <\/p>\n
1274
\n01:07:06,600 –> 01:07:11,000
\ntemple, you know, being part of
\nthe celebrations there and <\/p>\n
1275
\n01:07:11,000 –> 01:07:13,300
\neventually for taking and
\neverything else that it could <\/p>\n
1276
\n01:07:13,300 –> 01:07:16,600
\noffer.
\nNow, this one, if we sin <\/p>\n
1277
\n01:07:16,600 –> 01:07:19,400
\nwillfully, this one is seems to
\nblow everything I’ve set out of <\/p>\n
1278
\n01:07:19,400 –> 01:07:21,700
\nthe water as well.
\nIt’s a quoting Hebrews 10. <\/p>\n
1279
\n01:07:21,700 –> 01:07:25,200
\nIt says, if we sin willfully
\nafter we’ve been in Christ, <\/p>\n
1280
\n01:07:25,200 –> 01:07:28,800
\nthere is no sacrifice for our
\nsins, except the looking fiery. <\/p>\n
1281
\n01:07:28,800 –> 01:07:32,000
\nLooking forward to have judgment
\nthink that well, all our sins, <\/p>\n
1282
\n01:07:32,000 –> 01:07:33,500
\nour will Things.
\nOther, we’ve all everything. <\/p>\n
1283
\n01:07:33,500 –> 01:07:35,700
\nEverything we do is all decision
\nwhen we make a decision. <\/p>\n
1284
\n01:07:35,700 –> 01:07:40,100
\nTherefore, How can any of us be
\nsaved again? <\/p>\n
1285
\n01:07:40,400 –> 01:07:42,800
\nContext is King.
\nWhen it comes to Bible study and<\/p>\n
1286
\n01:07:42,800 –> 01:07:44,000
\nyou want to brief, you will read
\nbrother. <\/p>\n
1287
\n01:07:44,000 –> 01:07:49,000
\nCarter in Hebrews, he says Paul
\nis for donations pulp 100%. <\/p>\n
1288
\n01:07:49,000 –> 01:07:52,600
\nWe think it’s Paul and Hebrews
\nis specifically specifically <\/p>\n
1289
\n01:07:52,600 –> 01:07:56,000
\nreferring to those who were
\ngoing back to Judaism and <\/p>\n
1290
\n01:07:56,000 –> 01:07:59,700
\ntraining under foot the the body
\nof Christ. <\/p>\n
1291
\n01:07:59,700 –> 01:08:02,700
\nAnd and I like dogs going back
\nto their vomit and and that’s <\/p>\n
1292
\n01:08:02,700 –> 01:08:04,600
\nthe immediate context.
\nAnd that’s what that’s what <\/p>\n
1293
\n01:08:04,600 –> 01:08:06,800
\nPaul’s rule, the right of the he
\nwas referring to. <\/p>\n
1294
\n01:08:07,200 –> 01:08:09,800
\nHe says, I just read this one
\nbecause it’s really powerful to <\/p>\n
1295
\n01:08:09,800 –> 01:08:11,700
\nsee brother.
\nCarter’s state will do a black <\/p>\n
1296
\n01:08:11,700 –> 01:08:13,700
\nand white.
\nIt looks like it decimates us, <\/p>\n
1297
\n01:08:13,700 –> 01:08:15,500
\ndoesn’t in black and white.
\nIt looks like how can we ever <\/p>\n
1298
\n01:08:15,500 –> 01:08:17,700
\nget past this verse?
\nIt’s like all of our sin <\/p>\n
1299
\n01:08:17,700 –> 01:08:21,899
\nwillfully brother Carter says in
\nletter to the Hebrews, all the <\/p>\n
1300
\n01:08:21,899 –> 01:08:24,000
\ninfluences about them.
\nTended, to make them leave the <\/p>\n
1301
\n01:08:24,000 –> 01:08:25,700
\nChristian Community.
\nDoes his pressure to leave the <\/p>\n
1302
\n01:08:25,700 –> 01:08:29,200
\ncommuting go back to Judaism.
\nHe says many anxious Souls have <\/p>\n
1303
\n01:08:29,200 –> 01:08:32,000
\nworried over whether they have
\ncommitted this willful sin. <\/p>\n
1304
\n01:08:32,899 –> 01:08:34,700
\nDings audience, selfies on
\nmyself to prove. <\/p>\n
1305
\n01:08:34,700 –> 01:08:37,800
\nOtherwise what is this?
\nWillful sin question, mark, the <\/p>\n
1306
\n01:08:37,800 –> 01:08:40,200
\ncontext on both sides of the
\nversus fixes. <\/p>\n
1307
\n01:08:40,200 –> 01:08:43,399
\nWhat it is?
\nIt is leaving the truth, that’s <\/p>\n
1308
\n01:08:43,399 –> 01:08:46,000
\nwhat it is.
\nAnd in the case of the Hebrews <\/p>\n
1309
\n01:08:46,300 –> 01:08:49,700
\njoining hands with those who
\nrepudiated the claims of Jesus, <\/p>\n
1310
\n01:08:49,700 –> 01:08:52,100
\nto be the Christ.
\nSo it’s leaving the truth. <\/p>\n
1311
\n01:08:52,300 –> 01:08:55,600
\nIn an extreme sense.
\nThose who had seen the power of <\/p>\n
1312
\n01:08:55,800 –> 01:08:59,200
\nthe Holy Spirit, going back to
\nJudaism had were really a <\/p>\n
1313
\n01:08:59,600 –> 01:09:06,500
\nculpable level that, that
\ntranscends ourselves, even I’ve <\/p>\n
1314
\n01:09:06,500 –> 01:09:09,399
\ngot to go through this, run out
\nof time, I’ll put these all on <\/p>\n
1315
\n01:09:09,399 –> 01:09:11,800
\nthe, on the, on the, on the
\nhandout. <\/p>\n
1316
\n01:09:11,800 –> 01:09:15,899
\nWhat I did, I just sat down with
\nmy Bible, and a blank exercise <\/p>\n
1317
\n01:09:15,899 –> 01:09:17,700
\nbook.
\nI wrote a column and I’m going <\/p>\n
1318
\n01:09:17,700 –> 01:09:19,300
\nto just go through the New
\nTestament. <\/p>\n
1319
\n01:09:19,300 –> 01:09:22,399
\nI’m going to put on a list,
\nevery positive versus about <\/p>\n
1320
\n01:09:22,399 –> 01:09:24,800
\nsalvation.
\nI’m going to list every – one <\/p>\n
1321
\n01:09:24,800 –> 01:09:27,300
\nthat seems to think that makes
\nsalvation seem hard. <\/p>\n
1322
\n01:09:27,500 –> 01:09:30,300
\nAnd I can tell you, if you do
\nthat exercise, the positive <\/p>\n
1323
\n01:09:30,399 –> 01:09:34,399
\noverwhelming – just buy
\nmultiples at this. <\/p>\n
1324
\n01:09:34,399 –> 01:09:36,100
\nThere’s overwhelming the
\npositive. <\/p>\n
1325
\n01:09:36,300 –> 01:09:39,899
\nFrom Romans 5 and Romans 8, and
\nEphesians one day just so many <\/p>\n
1326
\n01:09:39,899 –> 01:09:42,100
\npositive statement and they’re
\nnot, they’re not qualified <\/p>\n
1327
\n01:09:42,100 –> 01:09:43,800
\nstatement to say you’ll be in
\nthe Kingdom. <\/p>\n
1328
\n01:09:43,800 –> 01:09:46,000
\nIf you put enough money in the
\nbag, and if you do this and if <\/p>\n
1329
\n01:09:46,008 –> 01:09:49,000
\nyou go to the working videos and
\nwell, Heritage colleagues, we <\/p>\n
1330
\n01:09:49,008 –> 01:09:52,100
\nstill might to say that, that is
\none of the ones but that but <\/p>\n
1331
\n01:09:52,100 –> 01:09:55,300
\nnormally normally they’re not,
\nthey’re not qualified in that <\/p>\n
1332
\n01:09:55,300 –> 01:09:56,200
\nway.
\nThey are because you’re in <\/p>\n
1333
\n01:09:56,200 –> 01:09:58,900
\nChrist, these losing, we are
\nreconciled to God. <\/p>\n
1334
\n01:09:58,900 –> 01:10:02,000
\nBy Christ was saved by his life.
\nAll these amazing positive <\/p>\n
1335
\n01:10:02,000 –> 01:10:05,600
\npowerful statements that
\nliterally drowning out the other<\/p>\n
1336
\n01:10:06,200 –> 01:10:08,500
\nWarning ones or the negative
\nones that appear there. <\/p>\n
1337
\n01:10:10,100 –> 01:10:12,800
\nOkay, what do we take away from
\nout from a week together? <\/p>\n
1338
\n01:10:14,500 –> 01:10:18,500
\nI hope that what we’ve talked
\nabout is made us look forward to<\/p>\n
1339
\n01:10:18,500 –> 01:10:21,100
\nthe Judgment seat rather than
\nfearing it and looking at it <\/p>\n
1340
\n01:10:21,100 –> 01:10:24,600
\nwith Dread and Terror.
\nAnd I think these concepts of <\/p>\n
1341
\n01:10:24,600 –> 01:10:27,700
\nsearch me o God, we want the
\nJudgment seat. <\/p>\n
1342
\n01:10:27,700 –> 01:10:31,300
\nWe want God to search us to look
\nat all the things that we have <\/p>\n
1343
\n01:10:31,300 –> 01:10:34,500
\nwrong in our thinking and our
\nattitudes and to remove them and<\/p>\n
1344
\n01:10:34,500 –> 01:10:38,000
\nto changes in the present, us
\nfaultless before his presence it<\/p>\n
1345
\n01:10:38,000 –> 01:10:41,900
\nleads us into the X rotational
\naspect of, if we want that to <\/p>\n
1346
\n01:10:41,900 –> 01:10:43,100
\nhappen.
\nWe really want that to happen. <\/p>\n
1347
\n01:10:43,400 –> 01:10:46,400
\nThen we also can do that right
\nnow in our life and we can <\/p>\n
1348
\n01:10:46,400 –> 01:10:50,000
\nexamine ourselves, and we can
\nget God’s word to even now, look<\/p>\n
1349
\n01:10:50,000 –> 01:10:52,900
\nat our consciences and our
\nmotives, and we can try, and be <\/p>\n
1350
\n01:10:52,900 –> 01:10:56,300
\npleasing to God in our life,
\njust to finish up to Quick <\/p>\n
1351
\n01:10:56,300 –> 01:10:57,700
\nreferences.
\nI’ll read them out for you. <\/p>\n
1352
\n01:10:59,000 –> 01:11:01,000
\nThis is from Brother Melva
\npurchases book, the first <\/p>\n
1353
\n01:11:01,000 –> 01:11:04,000
\nEpistle of John.
\nHe’s quite on these two verses. <\/p>\n
1354
\n01:11:04,500 –> 01:11:06,600
\nYou know I just realize these
\ntwo verses what? <\/p>\n
1355
\n01:11:06,600 –> 01:11:08,900
\nMy whole studies hinge on.
\nI think we even have been read <\/p>\n
1356
\n01:11:08,900 –> 01:11:11,800
\nthem this week.
\nThis is pretty bizarre to real <\/p>\n
1357
\n01:11:11,800 –> 01:11:14,100
\npowerful verses.
\nIn first John about confidence <\/p>\n
1358
\n01:11:14,100 –> 01:11:18,200
\nthat the Judgment seat and
\nbrother Mel Burke is says we <\/p>\n
1359
\n01:11:18,200 –> 01:11:20,900
\nsometimes hear Brethren and
\nsisters say that they’re fearful<\/p>\n
1360
\n01:11:20,900 –> 01:11:23,700
\nof Christ’s coming.
\nSuch apprehension is perhaps <\/p>\n
1361
\n01:11:23,700 –> 01:11:27,500
\nunderstandable, but it is
\nneedless if we abide in him. <\/p>\n
1362
\n01:11:28,200 –> 01:11:30,200
\nIf we bought him, we shall not,
\nwe shall anticipate. <\/p>\n
1363
\n01:11:30,200 –> 01:11:32,500
\nHe’s coming with joy and
\nconfidence. <\/p>\n
1364
\n01:11:33,000 –> 01:11:34,900
\nIt is true, that we are
\nabsolutely Unworthy of the <\/p>\n
1365
\n01:11:34,900 –> 01:11:36,200
\nblessings.
\nHe has promised us. <\/p>\n
1366
\n01:11:36,600 –> 01:11:40,200
\nHowever, we should not shrink
\nfrom Human shame at his cunning.<\/p>\n
1367
\n01:11:40,600 –> 01:11:42,700
\nIt is one of those glorious
\ntruths which cannot be learnt <\/p>\n
1368
\n01:11:42,700 –> 01:11:45,500
\nquickly or easily, but he’s
\ngradually apprehended during a <\/p>\n
1369
\n01:11:45,500 –> 01:11:48,900
\nlifetime with the Lord.
\nSo it’s more of a burka says <\/p>\n
1370
\n01:11:49,500 –> 01:11:52,500
\nthat that I find it very
\npowerful and the final one <\/p>\n
1371
\n01:11:54,200 –> 01:11:58,000
\ncoming on, first John four John
\nnow, goes on to show us that At <\/p>\n
1372
\n01:11:58,000 –> 01:12:01,100
\nliving in the love of God.
\nThere is no need for us to fear <\/p>\n
1373
\n01:12:01,300 –> 01:12:03,900
\nthe impending day of judgment.
\nThere is no fear in love <\/p>\n
1374
\n01:12:04,200 –> 01:12:08,400
\nperfect, love casts out fear, in
\ntime past, great emphasis was <\/p>\n
1375
\n01:12:08,400 –> 01:12:11,400
\nplaced on fear.
\nIt was almost used as a go to <\/p>\n
1376
\n01:12:11,400 –> 01:12:16,100
\ndrive men to obedience, sadly
\nand obedience to a system rather<\/p>\n
1377
\n01:12:16,100 –> 01:12:19,700
\nthan loyalty to God.
\nThese ideas have left a lurking <\/p>\n
1378
\n01:12:19,700 –> 01:12:23,100
\ndread in some Minds.
\nA drug which is kept Alive by <\/p>\n
1379
\n01:12:23,100 –> 01:12:26,300
\nsome passages of scripture taken
\nfrom its true context which we <\/p>\n
1380
\n01:12:26,300 –> 01:12:27,800
\nhave alluded to a few of them
\nnow. <\/p>\n
1381
\n01:12:28,600 –> 01:12:31,400
\nSo hopefully those Concepts will
\nstay with us. <\/p>\n
1382
\n01:12:31,400 –> 01:12:36,400
\nThat these things should make us
\nwant the judgment-seat to come. <\/p>\n
1383
\n01:12:36,600 –> 01:12:38,000
\nThat we want the return of
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
1384
\n01:12:38,000 –> 01:12:41,600
\nWhen we apply the back porch,
\ntest, next time I see you and <\/p>\n
1385
\n01:12:41,600 –> 01:12:43,100
\nwe’ve heard a noise in the
\nbackyard. <\/p>\n
1386
\n01:12:44,000 –> 01:12:46,200
\nHas it been accompanied by
\ndreading out in our hearts <\/p>\n
1387
\n01:12:46,200 –> 01:12:47,400
\nthinking?
\nThis could be the angel, this <\/p>\n
1388
\n01:12:47,400 –> 01:12:50,400
\ncould be the Judgment seat or
\nhasn’t been accompanied by joy <\/p>\n
1389
\n01:12:50,400 –> 01:12:52,900
\nthat this could be, the angel is
\ncould be the Judgment seat. <\/p>\n
1390
\n01:12:52,900 –> 01:12:55,600
\nYeah, this is, this is the, this
\nis the hopefully, the Mind <\/p>\n
1391
\n01:12:55,600 –> 01:12:59,500
\nchange that we have started to
\nER, and so, this beautiful quote<\/p>\n
1392
\n01:12:59,500 –> 01:13:03,300
\nfrom Luke 12 just to finish up,
\nfear, not little flock for it, <\/p>\n
1393
\n01:13:03,308 –> 01:13:05,700
\nis your father’s, good pleasure
\nto give you the kingdom. <\/p>\n
1394
\n01:13:05,900 –> 01:13:06,500
\nThanks everyone.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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