{"id":508,"date":"2022-06-27T01:14:28","date_gmt":"2022-06-27T01:14:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/197-dev-ramcharan-coping-in-a-fallen-world\/"},"modified":"2026-07-15T03:08:11","modified_gmt":"2026-07-15T03:08:11","slug":"197-dev-ramcharan-coping-in-a-fallen-world","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/197-dev-ramcharan-coping-in-a-fallen-world\/","title":{"rendered":"197: Dev Ramcharan – Coping In A Fallen World"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week we are listening to the 3rd class in the series “The Whole Duty Of Man” by Brother Dev Ramcharan given this year (2022) at the Palm Springs Bible School in California. The link to the full class series is right here ( Class Series<\/a> ) and will be added to the GCT Extended Podcast.<\/p>\n

We hope this strengthens your Faith and brightens your day!<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n

Send talk suggestions or comments to: GoodChristadelphianTalks@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n

For Show Notes, visit our website: Anchor.fm\/GCT<\/a><\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to good Chris Selfian
\nTalks. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi.
\nAnd I’m Chris. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I’m Brian.
\nThank you for joining us this <\/p>\n

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\nweek on this podcast.
\nWe select One Talk a week to <\/p>\n

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\nhelp us get the Bible in our
\nDaily News feed. <\/p>\n

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\nWe post a new episode at the
\nstart of each week. <\/p>\n

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\nWith a short intro beforehand to
\nkind of set the stage for the <\/p>\n

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\ntalk you’re about to listen to.
\nAnd now let’s talk more about <\/p>\n

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\nthis week’s talk.
\nWelcome to the good Chris <\/p>\n

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\nAdelphian Talks podcast.
\nThis is Brother Brian. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week’s talk is a class.
\nIn the middle of a series on <\/p>\n

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\nEcclesiastes that was given by
\nbrother Dave Ramsrand at the <\/p>\n

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\nPalm Springs Bible School
\nearlier this year, 2022. <\/p>\n

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\nThe official series title is The
\nWhole Duty of Man and we’ll be <\/p>\n

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\nlistening to the third class
\nentitled Coping in a Fallen <\/p>\n

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\nWorld.
\nBut I’d strongly suggest you <\/p>\n

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\nlisten to the whole week’s worth
\nbecause every class is solid. <\/p>\n

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\nBreaking down.
\nYou know, like chapter by <\/p>\n

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\nchapter, the mindset of Solomon,
\nthe preacher in Ecclesiastes, <\/p>\n

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\nand how we can, like, just
\nreconcile the vast differences <\/p>\n

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\nin the statements that are made
\nand perhaps where the lessons <\/p>\n

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\nwere learned along the way.
\nBut really, the signature of <\/p>\n

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\nthis series is Brother Dave’s
\npersonal commentary, which is <\/p>\n

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\ninterwoven throughout each
\nverse. <\/p>\n

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\nTurning side comments to stories
\nthat take on life of their own <\/p>\n

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\nand become so deeply personal
\nand intimate. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd if you’ve ever been in the
\naudience for one of his talks, <\/p>\n

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\nit feels at times like he’s
\nspeaking at you 6 inches from <\/p>\n

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\nyour face and just that you and
\nthat you have nowhere to hide. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it’s because he’s got such a
\ngift in speaking in the real <\/p>\n

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\nlist of terms and oftentimes
\nsaying what needs to be said <\/p>\n

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\nwhen and where others won’t.
\nNow I say that in the most <\/p>\n

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\ncomplimentary way because
\nBrother Dave is such a diligent <\/p>\n

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\nBible student, but I would say
\nany class I’ve listened to an <\/p>\n

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\nexpectation, any series.
\nIt doesn’t matter what the <\/p>\n

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\nsubject is at the end of each
\nclass. <\/p>\n

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\nIt almost feels more like you’re
\nwalking out of a therapy session<\/p>\n

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\nand that you just need some time
\nto just sit and process what he <\/p>\n

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\nmay have stirred up in your
\nheart. <\/p>\n

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\nHe cares, and I say all that
\nbecause. <\/p>\n

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\nThis particular series and the
\naudience he was speaking to hits<\/p>\n

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\nclose to home at the moment.
\nThe Palm Springs Bible School in<\/p>\n

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\nCalifornia typically is not a
\nYoung people’s Family Bible <\/p>\n

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\nschool, but pretty much one for
\nthose who are about to be <\/p>\n

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\nretired or long since retired,
\nif I could put it kindly. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the subject matter of
\nEcclesiastes as an end of life <\/p>\n

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\nreflection.
\nIs just addressed so poignantly <\/p>\n

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\nthat even the young chap, as
\nmyself was deeply moved by his <\/p>\n

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\nexposition.
\nSo for Class 3 it jumps us right<\/p>\n

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\nin the middle.
\nIt’s not great for continuity, <\/p>\n

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\nbut I chose this one because I
\nthink it had the most consistent<\/p>\n

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\nand compelling side comments and
\nstories that have really meant a<\/p>\n

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\nlot to me.
\nJust this morning one of our <\/p>\n

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\nelder sisters in our meeting at
\nMoorestown fell asleep in the <\/p>\n

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\nLord and I was thinking about a
\ncomment in this class that <\/p>\n

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\nBrother Dave makes and his
\nexplanation of this comment <\/p>\n

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\nalone.
\nI think it’s worth posting the <\/p>\n

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\nentire class.
\nSo what he said was start <\/p>\n

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\nworking on having a good death.
\nAnd you’ll want to stop what <\/p>\n

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\nyou’re doing and listen a few
\ntimes over when he gets to <\/p>\n

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\nmaking that point and what he
\nsays about it. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I apologize for the overly
\nlong intro. <\/p>\n

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\nThe link to the rest of the
\nclasses is going to be in the <\/p>\n

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\ndescription as well as it’ll
\nsoon be on the GCT extended <\/p>\n

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\npodcast.
\nOnce again, this series is <\/p>\n

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\ncalled The Whole Duty of Man and
\nthis will be the third class of <\/p>\n

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\nfive.
\nSo as always. <\/p>\n

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\nWe hope this strengthens your
\nfaith and brightens your day. <\/p>\n

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\nBrother Dave Ramsrand coping in
\na fallen world Good morning, <\/p>\n

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\nbrothers and sisters.
\nDid you all have a good night’s <\/p>\n

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\nsleep?
\nWell, I don’t believe you <\/p>\n

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\nbecause at your age that’s an
\nimpossibility or a rarity. <\/p>\n

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\nA rarity at least.
\nSo if you did have a good <\/p>\n

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\nnight’s sleep, that’s a
\nwonderful blessing. <\/p>\n

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\nSo we’re going to look now.
\nAt Ecclesiastes 6 and then work <\/p>\n

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\nour way forward.
\nNow let me just remind you a <\/p>\n

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\nlittle bit about how things are
\nput together in this book. <\/p>\n

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\nThey are the thoughts of a
\nbrother who has made some big <\/p>\n

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\nmistakes in his life.
\nHe’s had a lot more than most <\/p>\n

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\npeople that he has ruled over
\nhave ever experienced. <\/p>\n

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\nIt didn’t make him happy.
\nThere was always something he <\/p>\n

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\nwas searching for and searching
\nfor and searching for. <\/p>\n

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\nSo money, power, women,
\nopportunities just didn’t fill <\/p>\n

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\nthe void.
\nAnd he noticed. <\/p>\n

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\nHe noticed that life had an
\ninherent hole in it. <\/p>\n

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\nHe looked at the world and the
\nway things work, and he saw <\/p>\n

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\nunfairness in so many different
\nways. <\/p>\n

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\nHe also saw an unpredictability.
\nHe realized that you could be a <\/p>\n

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\ngood person or a righteous
\nperson or a God fearing person. <\/p>\n

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\nWe know no one is good.
\nChrist said that but a God <\/p>\n

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\nfearing person and still have a
\nreally tough, difficult painful <\/p>\n

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\nlife.
\nYou could be a wicked individual<\/p>\n

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\nand have a trouble free life and
\nso there wasn’t a predictability<\/p>\n

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\nhe saw based on how you behaved
\nin this world. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat he realizes and fits and
\nstarts, it seems, through the <\/p>\n

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\ncourse of the writing of the
\nbook and the capturing of these <\/p>\n

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\nalternating thoughts, that in
\nthe end, a life of faith is the <\/p>\n

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\nlife that we need to subscribe
\nto, that we need to hold on to. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that going and making our
\nlife in this world all about <\/p>\n

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\nparties and laughter and
\nmerriment is ultimately an empty<\/p>\n

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\nlife.
\nThe life of a believer, which in<\/p>\n

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\nin in involves endurance,
\npatience, and choosing to <\/p>\n

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\nbelieve and have faith in God,
\nis something that we should all <\/p>\n

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\nbe trying to do.
\nAm I the only one who’s hearing <\/p>\n

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\nbells, or is this a problem
\nthen? <\/p>\n

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\nIn my head, alright, sounds like
\nsome kind of tinkling, jingling <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s going on.
\nSo when we go through these <\/p>\n

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\nchapters, sometimes he writes
\nfrom the point of view of a man <\/p>\n

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\nof faith.
\nOther time he writes from the <\/p>\n

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\npoint of view of the darkening
\nview towards the end of life, of<\/p>\n

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\na man of this world, at an uncle
\nlike that. <\/p>\n

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\nMade a very, very big success of
\nhis. <\/p>\n

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\nHis life dragged himself up out
\nof poverty. <\/p>\n

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\nMy dad’s brother was very kind
\nto all of his brothers and <\/p>\n

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\nsisters and their kids often had
\nyoung families who were nephews <\/p>\n

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\nand nieces living free of charge
\nin houses that that he owned, <\/p>\n

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\njust free because it was who he
\nwas. <\/p>\n

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\nHe had a terribly hot temper
\nwhen he got going. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd he would lose his temper.
\nAnd then it was over, except for<\/p>\n

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\nthe person with whom he had lost
\nhis temper, that they had to go <\/p>\n

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\nand get repaired somewhere
\nafter. <\/p>\n

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\nBut as his life went on, fewer
\nand fewer people came and <\/p>\n

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\nvisited him.
\nFewer and fewer people <\/p>\n

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\nremembered to come say thank you
\nto him for all of his kindness, <\/p>\n

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\neverything that he had done.
\nEven found this time goes that <\/p>\n

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\nwent by, that the people that
\nwere closest to him didn’t come <\/p>\n

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\nto see him.
\nNow part of that was because of <\/p>\n

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\nhis temper and his critical
\nnature, and so it tended to <\/p>\n

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\nalienate people.
\nThe problem was the people <\/p>\n

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\nclosest to him weren’t there for
\nhim as he was dying. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so all the money, all the
\npower, all the influence, all <\/p>\n

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\nthe adulation, all the hangers
\non, all the people who <\/p>\n

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\nbenefited.
\nNone of that mattered at the end<\/p>\n

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\nof his life, because what he
\nexperienced is what this man is <\/p>\n

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\ndescribing in the Book of
\nEcclesiastes. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s describing the fact that in
\nspite of everything that you get<\/p>\n

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\nand everything you can have
\napart from God, if your life is <\/p>\n

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\nonly about what is under the sun
\non this earth, it winds up being<\/p>\n

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\nan altogether empty life.
\nThat’s the point he’s making <\/p>\n

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\nnow.
\nThis is Solomon. <\/p>\n

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\nI believe it is Solomon, and
\nhe’s speaking to the <\/p>\n

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\ncongregation.
\nMaybe not in one connected talk,<\/p>\n

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\nbut he would give pieces of this
\nmessage. <\/p>\n

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\nHe was talking to a culture that
\nwas all about materialism. <\/p>\n

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\nYes, they believed in Yahweh,
\nthe God of Israel, but they were<\/p>\n

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\nall about the accumulation of
\nwealth. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we see evidence of that
\nbecause of the abundance of gold<\/p>\n

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\nand silver as it’s described
\nduring the period of Solomon. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd also the attitude of the men
\nthat grew up with Rehoboam who <\/p>\n

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\nsaid no, no, no, you’re not
\ngoing to go out to these people <\/p>\n

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\nand tell them that you’re going
\nto ease up on the tax burden. <\/p>\n

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\nYou’re going to tell them you
\nthink it was hard under my dad. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s going to be twice as hard
\nunder me because I’m tougher, <\/p>\n

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\nstronger.
\nAnd I’m going to require more of<\/p>\n

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\nyou than he ever asked.
\nNot, not in whose interest was <\/p>\n

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\nthat?
\nNot the people’s, but in their <\/p>\n

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\npersonal interest, the
\naccumulation of material wealth <\/p>\n

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\nas rapidly as possible.
\nAnd of course, it split the <\/p>\n

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\nnation, because a man named
\nJeraboam, who had fled for his <\/p>\n

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\nlife and then had come back into
\nthe country at the death of <\/p>\n

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\nSolomon.
\nWho had grown up the son of a <\/p>\n

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\nwidow, and we’re told that
\ndeliberately for a reason. <\/p>\n

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\nIt meant that he was a man who
\nknew what poverty and hard times<\/p>\n

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\nwere like.
\nHe could have a sense of fellow <\/p>\n

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\nfeeling with people who
\nstruggled to pay their taxes, <\/p>\n

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\nwho often had to sell their kids
\ninto slavery so that they could <\/p>\n

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\npay the debts that were incurred
\nas a result of the hardship. <\/p>\n

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\nOf the system of taxation that
\nwas in place under Solomon, He <\/p>\n

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\ncould relate to those who felt
\nas if they’d been bruised by and<\/p>\n

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\nalienated from the leadership of
\nthe country. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so he could speak to their
\nhearts in a way that Rehoboam, <\/p>\n

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\nwho’d grown up in the lap of
\nluxury with his friends, could <\/p>\n

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\nnever hope to be able to speak
\nto the people. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is no wonder that he was able
\nto take. <\/p>\n

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\nThe majority of the nation away
\nwith him because he could speak <\/p>\n

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\nto their sense of grievance,
\ntheir sense of having been taken<\/p>\n

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\nadvantage of by the rich and
\npowerful, their sense of the <\/p>\n

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\nfact that the leaders did not
\ngive a hoot about them and they <\/p>\n

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\nhad to look after themselves.
\nIt’s why they say those words <\/p>\n

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\nwhile you look after yourself,
\nJudah, and they go their own <\/p>\n

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\nway.
\nBut this society under Solomon <\/p>\n

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\nis afflicted with great
\nmaterialism, and we can relate <\/p>\n

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\nto that, can’t we?
\nWe can relate to that both for <\/p>\n

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\nourselves, having grown old in
\nthe society, in times of <\/p>\n

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\nprosperity, without war.
\nThat’s why this war is so <\/p>\n

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\nshocking to us, because there
\nhas not been a war like this in <\/p>\n

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\nEurope.
\nSince the Second World War, I <\/p>\n

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\nknow there was the the conflict
\nin Yugoslavia that occurred, but<\/p>\n

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\na major power attacking another
\ncountry in Europe has not <\/p>\n

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\nhappened since the Germans did
\nit, Czechoslovakia, Poland, <\/p>\n

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\nFrance, and so on and so forth.
\nSo this is a, this is a this is <\/p>\n

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\nalmost an echo coming back from
\nsome of your childhoods. <\/p>\n

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\nWhen you look back and you
\nremember that the times when <\/p>\n

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\npeople had to tighten their
\nbelts because of the war <\/p>\n

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\nnecessity and the way that
\nprovisions were really hard to <\/p>\n

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\nget a hold of and there wasn’t a
\nhuge amount of food. <\/p>\n

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\nObesity was not a problem at
\nthat time because nobody had a <\/p>\n

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\nlot or a lot to eat.
\nSo Solomon is talking to the <\/p>\n

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\nhearts of people.
\nWho ultimately didn’t listen. <\/p>\n

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\nBut his words continue to move
\nus today because we can see an <\/p>\n

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\nalignment between what he is
\ntalking about and our own <\/p>\n

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\nstruggles in the faith.
\nSo what does that mean then? <\/p>\n

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\nBelievers have doubts.
\nDoubt is a part of our life in <\/p>\n

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\nthe truth.
\nYes, it. <\/p>\n

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\nIs Yes, we do.
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\ndoubts.
\nThere are times when we struggle<\/p>\n

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\nto make sense of what’s
\nhappening, what God seems to be <\/p>\n

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\nallowing or doing in our lives,
\nor the lives of those that we <\/p>\n

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\nsee around us or even distant
\nfrom us. <\/p>\n

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\nYou think of that brother and
\nhis little boy in the Ukraine <\/p>\n

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\nthat Mark showed us in that
\nwonderful session last night. <\/p>\n

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\nOur hearts bleed for them.
\nImagine what that must be like. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we we see our children,
\nsometimes your children in their<\/p>\n

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\n30s, forties, 50s or even 60s
\nand 70s, who have been so deeply<\/p>\n

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\naffected by the materialism of
\nthis age as I have and my <\/p>\n

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\ngeneration.
\nAnd you look at that and you <\/p>\n

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\nrealize, how do you live that?
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\ntime.
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\nIt’s hard for us to serve both
\nGod and mammon, isn’t it? <\/p>\n

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\nBut doubts?
\nDoubt is a part of faith. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat does that mean?
\nWe are going to have our <\/p>\n

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\nstruggles and then make our
\ndecision in our struggle. <\/p>\n

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\nTo say I may not understand
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nI may not have the answer I’m
\nlooking for for this, but I’m <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to make a choice and I
\nchoose to believe God and I <\/p>\n

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\nchoose to have faith in him.
\nThough I can’t workout <\/p>\n

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\neverything and get the answers
\nI’m looking for for this, that <\/p>\n

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\nor the other issue, problem or
\nsituation. <\/p>\n

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\nI choose God.
\nHe’s never let me down till now <\/p>\n

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\nand I will continue to believe
\nin him. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so when our kids come to us
\nwith their doubts, sometimes we <\/p>\n

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\nwe we we we don’t tell them
\nabout our own struggles in the <\/p>\n

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\nface, but we have our struggles
\nin the face and we come back and<\/p>\n

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\nwe keep holding on.
\nSo this this book is filled with<\/p>\n

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\na man’s struggles in the faith
\nas he wrestles with materialism <\/p>\n

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\nas he.
\nExperiments with the pleasures <\/p>\n

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\nand the prosperity of his age
\nwhile at the same time observing<\/p>\n

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\nhimself and those things that
\nare associated with what is <\/p>\n

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\neternal beyond death, beyond
\nwhat we see and feel today. <\/p>\n

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\nIt have only to do with things
\nwe have faith in and trust God <\/p>\n

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\nthat he will accomplish.
\nSo the the book is so modern. <\/p>\n

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\nIn fact, many philosophers today
\nsee this as a book that aligns <\/p>\n

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\nwith 20th century philosophy, a
\nkind of philosophy that was <\/p>\n

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\ncalled existentialism, that
\ntalks about the fact that all we<\/p>\n

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\nhave here, all we see here,
\nthat’s all there is, and the <\/p>\n

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\nlife of humanity is altogether
\ndark and ends and ends with <\/p>\n

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\nnothingness.
\nPuts us into a void with nothing<\/p>\n

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\nbeyond.
\nAnd so philosophers of an <\/p>\n

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\nexistential bent look at this
\nbook and say, oh boy, this is an<\/p>\n

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\nancient book that aligns with
\nwhat we believe. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd they ignore all the bits
\nthat talk about faith and God <\/p>\n

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\nand holding on to God.
\nSo it’s very modern, but it’s <\/p>\n

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\nalso very truthful.
\nAnd it’s something that we can <\/p>\n

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\nlook at and relate to.
\nIn parts of it, there seems to <\/p>\n

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\nbe a connected sequence of
\nthoughts, and you can identify <\/p>\n

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\nthat sequence of thoughts in
\nothers. <\/p>\n

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\nIn other parts of the book, it’s
\na collection of sayings, and at <\/p>\n

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\nthe end of the book it’ll say
\nthat the preacher collected <\/p>\n

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\nProverbs.
\nAnd of course, if Solomon wrote <\/p>\n

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\nthe proverbs, which I also
\nbelieve he did. <\/p>\n

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\nWell, it’s a collection of
\nthings that he put together as <\/p>\n

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\npieces of wisdom.
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\nin conflict with each other.
\nAnd what what is intended for us<\/p>\n

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\nto do is to say to ourselves, it
\ndepends on the situation. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we interpret each of these
\nbased on circumstances to <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand how one thing could
\nbe sent in one way at a certain <\/p>\n

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\npoint in the book and then in an
\nopposite way at another part of <\/p>\n

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\nthe book.
\nSo let’s jump back into chapter <\/p>\n

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\n6.
\nThen There is an evil which I’ve<\/p>\n

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\nseen where under the sun on the
\nearth in this earthly life. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it is common among men.
\nA man to whom God has given <\/p>\n

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\nriches, wealth and honor so that
\nhe doesn’t lack anything and he <\/p>\n

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\nhas everything he could want and
\nyet he doesn’t have the power to<\/p>\n

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\neat thereof, but someone else
\neats it for him. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that can happen in this
\nworld. <\/p>\n

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\nWork, work, work, work, work,
\nwork, work, and not enjoy what <\/p>\n

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\nyou’ve worked for and what
\nyou’ve been able to acquire as a<\/p>\n

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\nsomeone who enjoys it all and
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\nwhatsoever.
\nNow Solomon seems to have this <\/p>\n

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\ncoming up in his mind all the
\ntime. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s worried about rehoboam and
\nwhat’s going to happen. <\/p>\n

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\nTo the Kingdom, to his
\npossessions, to the accumulation<\/p>\n

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\nof wealth that has given him the
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\netc, etc.
\nWhat’s this boy, this man going <\/p>\n

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\nto do when I’m gone?
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\nkinds of things and he says,
\nlook if you if you have 100 <\/p>\n

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\nchildren, so that the days of
\nyour years be many, but your <\/p>\n

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\nsoul is not filled with good.
\nAnd in the end nobody even gives<\/p>\n

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\nyou a decent burial.
\nThen he says, Somebody who is an<\/p>\n

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\nuntimely birth is better than
\nhe. <\/p>\n

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\nBut he comes in with vanity, and
\nhe departs in darkness, that his<\/p>\n

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\nname shall be covered with
\ndarkness. <\/p>\n

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\nMoreover, he hath not seen the
\nsun, nor known anything. <\/p>\n

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\nThis hath more rest than the
\nother. <\/p>\n

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\nA miscarried baby is better off
\nthan a man who had all this <\/p>\n

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\nwealth, never enjoyed it, and
\nhanded it off to someone else to<\/p>\n

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\nenjoy.
\nThat’s what he’s saying. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a pretty dark view, isn’t
\nit? <\/p>\n

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\nSo it must mean to some degree,
\nfor all of Solomon’s wisdom and <\/p>\n

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\nall of his possessions and all
\nof his might, you had a hard <\/p>\n

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\ntime really enjoying what he
\nhad. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’re going to drop down now.
\nNine better is the sight of the <\/p>\n

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\neyes then the wandering of the
\ndesire. <\/p>\n

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\nNow what could that possibly
\nmean? <\/p>\n

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\nThis is what it means.
\nIt’s better to want what you <\/p>\n

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\nhave than to have what you want,
\nto see what you already have and<\/p>\n

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\ndesire it and be grateful for
\nit. <\/p>\n

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\nMeant to be continually wanting
\nmore and more and more and more <\/p>\n

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\nand more and more and the way
\neverything is set up today. <\/p>\n

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\nYou know, Amazon, eBay, etc etc
\netc. <\/p>\n

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\nThese things just promote the
\nwanting more. <\/p>\n

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\nI know because I’m affected by
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nYou must be too.
\nFor those of you who like <\/p>\n

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\ntechnology, well it’s both a
\ncurse and a blessing, isn’t it? <\/p>\n

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\nHow many of you have felt that
\nyou really do need to get that <\/p>\n

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\nnew iPhone every two years?
\nI’m talking about you kids in <\/p>\n

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\nyour 50s and 60s, right?
\nYou lads and lasses. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd they’ve even built the thing
\nso that they start to <\/p>\n

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\nmalfunction at year two when
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\nbecome obsolete quickly.
\nSo you continue really have to <\/p>\n

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\nbuy something new and buy
\nsomething new, buy something new<\/p>\n

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\nand buy something new.
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\nbeen set up for us.
\nBetter is the sight of the eyes,<\/p>\n

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\nwhat you can see and what you
\nhave than the continual <\/p>\n

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\nwandering of the desire for more
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\nlook.
\nThis also is, is is emptiness <\/p>\n

329
\n00:24:15,870 –> 00:24:19,790
\nand and a striving after wind.
\nSo what are we striving after? <\/p>\n

330
\n00:24:20,590 –> 00:24:24,350
\nYou know that feeling
\nyoungsters, when your Amazon box<\/p>\n

331
\n00:24:24,350 –> 00:24:27,650
\narrives.
\nAnd you bring it in, and there <\/p>\n

332
\n00:24:27,650 –> 00:24:31,170
\nare even on YouTube videos of
\nwhat they call unboxing. <\/p>\n

333
\n00:24:31,170 –> 00:24:36,570
\nHow stupid is that?
\nA person films 15 minutes of <\/p>\n

334
\n00:24:36,570 –> 00:24:39,410
\nhimself opening the box.
\nHe hasn’t even seen the thing in<\/p>\n

335
\n00:24:39,410 –> 00:24:42,890
\nit yet.
\nNow I take a knife when I’m as <\/p>\n

336
\n00:24:42,970 –> 00:24:44,370
\nyou can see, I’m cutting the
\nbox. <\/p>\n

337
\n00:24:44,370 –> 00:24:46,730
\nGee, they have good tape on
\nthese boxes. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:24:49,510 –> 00:24:52,990
\nIt’s the lunacy of this age.
\nWhat is the wind we’re chasing? <\/p>\n

339
\n00:24:52,990 –> 00:24:56,270
\nHappiness.
\nYou feel happy and then it’s <\/p>\n

340
\n00:24:56,270 –> 00:24:58,350
\nunboxed.
\nUse it once and you laid aside <\/p>\n

341
\n00:24:58,950 –> 00:25:03,190
\nwhatever The thing is, right?
\nWhatever The thing is. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:25:04,190 –> 00:25:07,390
\nI like music and I like
\nsomething that’s really old. <\/p>\n

343
\n00:25:07,390 –> 00:25:10,950
\nIt’s called a CD, right?
\nIt’s old today. <\/p>\n

344
\n00:25:11,750 –> 00:25:14,110
\nNow, it used to be that if you
\nhad to buy the kind of music I <\/p>\n

345
\n00:25:14,110 –> 00:25:15,990
\nlike.
\nSo I I know I’ve told you about <\/p>\n

346
\n00:25:15,990 –> 00:25:18,470
\nthis, Rolling Stones.
\nAnd that’s the stuff I grew up <\/p>\n

347
\n00:25:18,470 –> 00:25:20,660
\nwith.
\nThe Stones, The Beatles, Led <\/p>\n

348
\n00:25:20,660 –> 00:25:21,540
\nZeppelin.
\nYou remember it? <\/p>\n

349
\n00:25:21,580 –> 00:25:23,220
\nI don’t know.
\nYou may not know any of those <\/p>\n

350
\n00:25:23,740 –> 00:25:26,580
\npunk rock groups with
\ninappropriate names and so on <\/p>\n

351
\n00:25:26,580 –> 00:25:30,660
\nand so forth.
\nBut I learned all about and <\/p>\n

352
\n00:25:30,660 –> 00:25:32,940
\nlearn to love classical music
\nand jazz. <\/p>\n

353
\n00:25:34,540 –> 00:25:36,940
\nNow what would happen is you’d
\nbuy one jazz CD. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:25:36,940 –> 00:25:43,020
\nIt might cost you $15.
\nToday you can get 150 Jazz C D’s<\/p>\n

355
\n00:25:43,020 –> 00:25:48,540
\nin one box for $100.
\nSo what we paid for those things<\/p>\n

356
\n00:25:48,540 –> 00:25:52,860
\n25 years ago, 30 years ago, 40
\nyears ago is is like nothing <\/p>\n

357
\n00:25:52,860 –> 00:25:55,220
\ntoday.
\nSo what do you think that’s <\/p>\n

358
\n00:25:55,220 –> 00:25:58,820
\ngoing to do to somebody like me?
\nOh no, I won’t do that. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:25:58,820 –> 00:26:01,220
\nThat’s that’s greedy and
\ninappropriate. <\/p>\n

360
\n00:26:01,900 –> 00:26:04,980
\nThere’s a room I have you can
\nbarely walk into because of <\/p>\n

361
\n00:26:04,980 –> 00:26:09,340
\nboxes of CD’s I do not have
\nenough time in my lifetime to <\/p>\n

362
\n00:26:09,340 –> 00:26:14,150
\nlisten to.
\nBut the the the, the urge to <\/p>\n

363
\n00:26:14,150 –> 00:26:16,950
\naccumulate.
\nI can get the complete works of <\/p>\n

364
\n00:26:16,950 –> 00:26:20,350
\nLozart for $150.00.
\nYes, I’m getting that. <\/p>\n

365
\n00:26:20,830 –> 00:26:25,910
\nIt’s still in its plastic in
\nthat room because that’s what <\/p>\n

366
\n00:26:25,990 –> 00:26:28,630
\nour materialistic age is doing
\nto us. <\/p>\n

367
\n00:26:28,910 –> 00:26:32,070
\nIt knows our weakness.
\nIt knows our frailty. <\/p>\n

368
\n00:26:32,390 –> 00:26:35,950
\nMarketers know how to hook us
\nand pull us in. <\/p>\n

369
\n00:26:36,870 –> 00:26:39,070
\nAnd so the accumulation and
\naccumulation. <\/p>\n

370
\n00:26:39,490 –> 00:26:46,090
\nIs all about a fitful desire to
\nfind happiness through things, <\/p>\n

371
\n00:26:47,170 –> 00:26:51,770
\nand we might get a momentary
\nbump up, but then it Peters out.<\/p>\n

372
\n00:26:51,810 –> 00:26:54,850
\nIt it it it it just it just goes
\naway. <\/p>\n

373
\n00:26:55,650 –> 00:26:59,530
\nAnd I know my daughters will
\nthrow every CD I own into the <\/p>\n

374
\n00:26:59,530 –> 00:27:02,650
\ngarbage dump.
\nEveryone of them. <\/p>\n

375
\n00:27:02,650 –> 00:27:07,970
\nNot one single CD will be left
\nright. <\/p>\n

376
\n00:27:09,250 –> 00:27:12,050
\nSo an actual fact, the true
\nworth of those things, they will<\/p>\n

377
\n00:27:12,050 –> 00:27:17,130
\ndemonstrate, right?
\nThose things that made me so <\/p>\n

378
\n00:27:17,170 –> 00:27:19,170
\nhappy, you know?
\nAnd for every brother and <\/p>\n

379
\n00:27:19,170 –> 00:27:22,450
\nsister, it’s a different thing.
\nMight be sewing supplies for the<\/p>\n

380
\n00:27:22,450 –> 00:27:26,170
\nthing you will never ever get
\naround to sewing, right? <\/p>\n

381
\n00:27:26,170 –> 00:27:28,850
\nBut boy, do you have the best
\nthread. <\/p>\n

382
\n00:27:28,850 –> 00:27:32,250
\nOr if you’re a nitter, the best
\nyarn a person could possibly <\/p>\n

383
\n00:27:32,250 –> 00:27:35,650
\nhave all the way from Turkey,
\nfrom sheep that were hunted down<\/p>\n

384
\n00:27:35,650 –> 00:27:39,530
\non the whatever, right?
\nRight. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:27:39,610 –> 00:27:42,410
\nAnd Cars Brothers and their
\ncars, right? <\/p>\n

386
\n00:27:42,490 –> 00:27:45,210
\nYes.
\nLike, think about it this way. <\/p>\n

387
\n00:27:45,850 –> 00:27:49,850
\nEverybody’s thing that they have
\nthat you don’t have is a <\/p>\n

388
\n00:27:49,850 –> 00:27:53,570
\nridiculous and silly obsession.
\nThey have those people over <\/p>\n

389
\n00:27:53,570 –> 00:27:57,930
\nthere in that thing.
\nBut mine’s a serious collection <\/p>\n

390
\n00:27:57,930 –> 00:28:03,170
\nthing with meaning and
\nimportance, even if it’s like <\/p>\n

391
\n00:28:03,610 –> 00:28:06,330
\nMarvel comic books from the
\n1960s. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:28:07,380 –> 00:28:08,140
\nRight.
\nOh, sorry. <\/p>\n

393
\n00:28:08,140 –> 00:28:12,060
\nI think I must have touched a
\nnerve for a couple of couple of <\/p>\n

394
\n00:28:12,060 –> 00:28:13,660
\nthe youngsters in the back
\nthere. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:28:15,140 –> 00:28:22,580
\nCaptain America, Absolutely.
\nSo let’s drop down then to <\/p>\n

396
\n00:28:22,580 –> 00:28:27,180
\nchapter seven, he says.
\nLook, a good name, a good <\/p>\n

397
\n00:28:27,180 –> 00:28:33,660
\nreputation, a good character is
\nbetter than precious ointment. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:28:34,460 –> 00:28:35,260
\nNow what?
\nWhy would he? <\/p>\n

399
\n00:28:36,200 –> 00:28:38,720
\nHow do you put those those two
\ntwo things together? <\/p>\n

400
\n00:28:40,040 –> 00:28:44,720
\nBecause when a woman is in your
\npresence and has that kind of <\/p>\n

401
\n00:28:44,720 –> 00:28:47,600
\ngreat character, you won’t know
\nit right off the bat. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:28:48,800 –> 00:28:51,360
\nBut if she has a precious
\nointment on, you will know it <\/p>\n

403
\n00:28:51,360 –> 00:28:53,960
\nfrom yards away from her before
\nyou even reach there. <\/p>\n

404
\n00:28:55,200 –> 00:28:59,560
\nAnd So what are you saying is
\nthe showy outward things, the <\/p>\n

405
\n00:28:59,560 –> 00:29:05,720
\nluxurious whatever of our of our
\nlife today is empty. <\/p>\n

406
\n00:29:06,170 –> 00:29:09,530
\nWhat is more important is
\ncharacter. <\/p>\n

407
\n00:29:10,930 –> 00:29:13,650
\nIt’s been well said for our
\nkids, and I know you’re all <\/p>\n

408
\n00:29:13,650 –> 00:29:15,810
\nthinking along these lines too.
\nWhat are you going to leave your<\/p>\n

409
\n00:29:15,810 –> 00:29:17,770
\nkids?
\nWhat is what? <\/p>\n

410
\n00:29:17,770 –> 00:29:22,370
\nWhat is more important than what
\nyou leave for your kids is what <\/p>\n

411
\n00:29:22,370 –> 00:29:28,330
\nyou leave in your kids, what you
\nlive in in your kids, what <\/p>\n

412
\n00:29:28,330 –> 00:29:31,970
\nyou’ve taught them, how you
\nraise them, the character that <\/p>\n

413
\n00:29:31,970 –> 00:29:35,330
\nthey’ve developed, what what?
\nWhat you, what you. <\/p>\n

414
\n00:29:35,830 –> 00:29:39,030
\nTaught them was most important,
\neven if for now they look like <\/p>\n

415
\n00:29:39,030 –> 00:29:44,190
\nthey’ve walked away from it.
\nWhat you’ve left in them is more<\/p>\n

416
\n00:29:44,190 –> 00:29:46,830
\nimportant than anything you
\ncould leave them to spend or <\/p>\n

417
\n00:29:46,830 –> 00:29:51,590
\nlive in or or hold on to.
\nBecause all those things will <\/p>\n

418
\n00:29:51,990 –> 00:29:56,910
\ndrift away into the ether when
\nwhat you’ve left in them will <\/p>\n

419
\n00:29:56,950 –> 00:30:03,190
\nalways be in them, Even a child
\nthat walks away from our faith. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:30:04,540 –> 00:30:07,820
\nWill have in them things that we
\nraised them with. <\/p>\n

421
\n00:30:08,260 –> 00:30:16,620
\nHard work, dedication, honesty,
\nintegrity that marks them as <\/p>\n

422
\n00:30:16,620 –> 00:30:18,300
\ndifferent to the people in this
\nworld. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:30:18,300 –> 00:30:22,900
\nAnd don’t mourn about your kids
\nhaving left the truth or not in <\/p>\n

424
\n00:30:22,900 –> 00:30:24,380
\nthe truth.
\nBecause where there is life, <\/p>\n

425
\n00:30:24,380 –> 00:30:29,100
\nthere is hope.
\nThere’s a woman who came back to<\/p>\n

426
\n00:30:29,100 –> 00:30:32,340
\nthe meeting in her 80s in
\nToronto. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:30:34,290 –> 00:30:39,530
\nWe were doing a a a campaign and
\ngoing out and inviting people <\/p>\n

428
\n00:30:39,530 –> 00:30:42,530
\nwho had been to the Learn to
\nread the Bible seminar series <\/p>\n

429
\n00:30:42,530 –> 00:30:47,290
\nand stop coming.
\nSo a couple of us were were <\/p>\n

430
\n00:30:47,290 –> 00:30:52,130
\npaired up and knocked on a house
\nand and a woman came out who was<\/p>\n

431
\n00:30:52,130 –> 00:30:56,690
\nin her 80s and we said look we
\nwe’re we’re inviting you to to a<\/p>\n

432
\n00:30:56,930 –> 00:31:01,010
\nspecial lecture for people who
\nat some point in time have come <\/p>\n

433
\n00:31:01,010 –> 00:31:03,130
\nto the seminar series and we’d
\nlike to invite you. <\/p>\n

434
\n00:31:04,030 –> 00:31:06,990
\nShe said the strangest thing.
\nShe said, well you don’t usually<\/p>\n

435
\n00:31:06,990 –> 00:31:09,990
\ndo that.
\nPlease come in. <\/p>\n

436
\n00:31:10,910 –> 00:31:17,310
\nShe made us a pot of tea and and
\nwe had some cookies and and <\/p>\n

437
\n00:31:17,310 –> 00:31:19,270
\nsometime into the cookies, she
\nsaid. <\/p>\n

438
\n00:31:20,190 –> 00:31:23,830
\nActually I am the daughter of
\nthe recording brother of the <\/p>\n

439
\n00:31:23,830 –> 00:31:28,870
\nchurch St.
\nEcclesia and in the 1940s when I<\/p>\n

440
\n00:31:28,870 –> 00:31:33,010
\nmarried outside of the truth.
\nThe arranging board, the <\/p>\n

441
\n00:31:33,010 –> 00:31:38,810
\narranging brethren sent me a
\nblistering letter and I left the<\/p>\n

442
\n00:31:38,810 –> 00:31:42,930
\ntruth.
\nI used to bring my daughters to <\/p>\n

443
\n00:31:43,210 –> 00:31:47,530
\nthe CYC, but after a while,
\nbecause their mom and dad <\/p>\n

444
\n00:31:47,530 –> 00:31:50,930
\nweren’t in the truth, the kids
\nreally didn’t treat them all <\/p>\n

445
\n00:31:50,930 –> 00:31:52,810
\nthat well, so they stopped
\ncoming too. <\/p>\n

446
\n00:31:55,130 –> 00:31:57,730
\nNow this sister’s name was
\nMarguerite Kempthorne. <\/p>\n

447
\n00:31:58,890 –> 00:32:04,320
\nMarguerite came back in.
\nIn her 80s, made a special trip <\/p>\n

448
\n00:32:04,320 –> 00:32:06,680
\ndown to Church St.
\nEcclesia so she could visit the <\/p>\n

449
\n00:32:06,680 –> 00:32:11,880
\nhall with those brethren and
\ntheir children long dead, so <\/p>\n

450
\n00:32:11,880 –> 00:32:15,640
\nthat she could just go there and
\nand forgive what had been done. <\/p>\n

451
\n00:32:17,040 –> 00:32:21,120
\nAnd she has to worry what is
\ngoing to happen to my little <\/p>\n

452
\n00:32:21,120 –> 00:32:26,200
\ngirls.
\nAnd they were 60s going into 70.<\/p>\n

453
\n00:32:27,760 –> 00:32:31,940
\nShe died in her 90s.
\nAnd directly after her death, <\/p>\n

454
\n00:32:32,140 –> 00:32:37,260
\none of her girls was baptized in
\nher 70s, in her 70s. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:32:38,380 –> 00:32:41,340
\nSo you might think, what’s going
\nto happen to my kids? <\/p>\n

456
\n00:32:41,340 –> 00:32:43,580
\nI’ve lost everything.
\nI wish I’d raised them <\/p>\n

457
\n00:32:43,580 –> 00:32:46,300
\ndifferently.
\nI wish I was there more, all the<\/p>\n

458
\n00:32:46,300 –> 00:32:48,900
\nthings that parents torture
\nthemselves with. <\/p>\n

459
\n00:32:48,900 –> 00:32:53,740
\nBut there isn’t a mistake your
\nchild makes as a full grown art <\/p>\n

460
\n00:32:53,780 –> 00:32:57,620
\nadult that you don’t blame
\nyourself for, for some degree. <\/p>\n

461
\n00:32:58,320 –> 00:33:01,080
\nIf I’d raised him differently,
\nif I’d given him more love, less<\/p>\n

462
\n00:33:01,080 –> 00:33:03,840
\ndiscipline, more this, more
\nthat, we’ll all do that. <\/p>\n

463
\n00:33:03,840 –> 00:33:10,520
\nIt’s what we do as parents.
\nBut remember, though he may not <\/p>\n

464
\n00:33:10,520 –> 00:33:14,560
\nhave chosen God, or may have
\nwalked away from God, God <\/p>\n

465
\n00:33:14,560 –> 00:33:16,200
\nbrought that child into the
\nworld. <\/p>\n

466
\n00:33:17,720 –> 00:33:19,320
\nGod is still working in his
\nlife. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:33:20,560 –> 00:33:24,720
\nAnd where there is life, there’s
\nalways the hope that through <\/p>\n

468
\n00:33:25,160 –> 00:33:29,250
\ntragedy.
\nThrough the advent of common <\/p>\n

469
\n00:33:29,250 –> 00:33:33,010
\nsense, Through a yearning for
\nsomething that’s more <\/p>\n

470
\n00:33:33,010 –> 00:33:34,930
\nmeaningful.
\nWhen he looks at the emptiness <\/p>\n

471
\n00:33:34,930 –> 00:33:37,050
\nof life.
\nWhen you have everything you <\/p>\n

472
\n00:33:37,050 –> 00:33:42,450
\never wanted and realize you have
\nnothing but somehow God will <\/p>\n

473
\n00:33:42,450 –> 00:33:45,890
\nbring him around back into His
\ntruth. <\/p>\n

474
\n00:33:46,970 –> 00:33:50,050
\nPray for that.
\nI know we should be looking at <\/p>\n

475
\n00:33:50,050 –> 00:33:52,010
\nthese chapters, but there’s one
\nmore thing I just want to <\/p>\n

476
\n00:33:52,570 –> 00:33:57,290
\nmention to you.
\nStart working. <\/p>\n

477
\n00:33:57,850 –> 00:34:04,050
\nOn having a good death, what do
\nI mean by that? <\/p>\n

478
\n00:34:05,970 –> 00:34:08,610
\nModel for your children.
\nForgiveness. <\/p>\n

479
\n00:34:10,889 –> 00:34:16,889
\nModel for your children.
\nFaith and trust in God. <\/p>\n

480
\n00:34:18,610 –> 00:34:21,969
\nModel for your children.
\nThe recognition that this life <\/p>\n

481
\n00:34:21,969 –> 00:34:25,290
\nthat we have, even with all the
\npain and suffering that comes at<\/p>\n

482
\n00:34:25,290 –> 00:34:29,040
\nthe end of this.
\nAt the end of it, this is not <\/p>\n

483
\n00:34:29,120 –> 00:34:34,080
\nall we have, that there’s
\nsomething better, there’s <\/p>\n

484
\n00:34:34,080 –> 00:34:37,679
\nsomething coming.
\nAnd that when I close my eyes, I<\/p>\n

485
\n00:34:37,800 –> 00:34:42,480
\nopen them almost instantaneously
\nand I’m standing at somebody’s <\/p>\n

486
\n00:34:42,480 –> 00:34:47,159
\nfeet.
\nAnd that you may have to live <\/p>\n

487
\n00:34:47,159 –> 00:34:52,280
\nyour life, son, for another
\n30-40 fifty years, but I will be<\/p>\n

488
\n00:34:52,280 –> 00:34:56,560
\nright at his feet, hoping for
\nhis mercy. <\/p>\n

489
\n00:34:58,060 –> 00:35:02,060
\nAnd His Grace, an entry into His
\nKingdom. <\/p>\n

490
\n00:35:04,540 –> 00:35:08,020
\nLet this stage of your life as
\nyou go towards and use as you <\/p>\n

491
\n00:35:08,020 –> 00:35:12,940
\nget to those last days, not be
\nabout disappointment or <\/p>\n

492
\n00:35:12,940 –> 00:35:18,980
\nbitterness or hurts and wrongs
\nthat you still feel that all <\/p>\n

493
\n00:35:18,980 –> 00:35:23,820
\nthat stuff go, let it go and
\nhave a good death. <\/p>\n

494
\n00:35:25,320 –> 00:35:31,400
\nBecause how you die will teach
\nyour child about what was most <\/p>\n

495
\n00:35:31,480 –> 00:35:38,440
\nimportant to you and could draw
\ntheir minds back into the <\/p>\n

496
\n00:35:38,440 –> 00:35:41,480
\nfuture, into what’s most
\nimportant. <\/p>\n

497
\n00:35:43,400 –> 00:35:49,040
\nWhere they might think, you
\nknow, Mom was in so much pain I <\/p>\n

498
\n00:35:49,040 –> 00:35:52,320
\ncould barely look at what she
\nwas going through. <\/p>\n

499
\n00:35:54,420 –> 00:35:55,860
\nBut she kept on talking about
\nGod. <\/p>\n

500
\n00:35:57,820 –> 00:35:59,980
\nShe kept on talking about the
\nKingdom. <\/p>\n

501
\n00:36:01,700 –> 00:36:08,020
\nShe kept on telling me, son, you
\nhave to forgive your sister and <\/p>\n

502
\n00:36:08,020 –> 00:36:13,420
\nmake peace, because that’s what
\nGod would want you to do. <\/p>\n

503
\n00:36:14,940 –> 00:36:18,140
\nAnd if there’s a last wish I
\nhave that I want you to honor, <\/p>\n

504
\n00:36:19,780 –> 00:36:21,780
\nit’s to make peace with your
\nsiblings. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:36:24,500 –> 00:36:30,940
\nI have let go everything that
\nwas in my mind, creating a <\/p>\n

506
\n00:36:30,940 –> 00:36:35,860
\nproblem for me.
\nAll the hurts, everything that <\/p>\n

507
\n00:36:35,860 –> 00:36:39,460
\noffended me.
\nWhat this one or that one did to<\/p>\n

508
\n00:36:39,460 –> 00:36:42,980
\nme, what I could have had and
\ndidn’t have. <\/p>\n

509
\n00:36:44,460 –> 00:36:49,660
\nI let it all go because I want
\nto be like Christ. <\/p>\n

510
\n00:36:51,030 –> 00:36:54,350
\nBecause I know that the happiest
\ncondition I can be in, in all <\/p>\n

511
\n00:36:54,350 –> 00:37:03,630
\nthis pain is with a kind of
\nthinking that is about grace and<\/p>\n

512
\n00:37:03,630 –> 00:37:08,630
\nhope and the future that I know
\nis coming with all my being. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:37:09,470 –> 00:37:10,830
\nI’ve got to get through this
\npain. <\/p>\n

514
\n00:37:10,830 –> 00:37:17,550
\nI have to close my eyes one day.
\nBut I want you to think about <\/p>\n

515
\n00:37:17,550 –> 00:37:20,740
\nthese things.
\nSo you might think, what have <\/p>\n

516
\n00:37:20,740 –> 00:37:22,260
\nyou got to give your kids at
\nthis stage? <\/p>\n

517
\n00:37:22,260 –> 00:37:31,100
\nYou can give them a good death
\nand it it means those things so <\/p>\n

518
\n00:37:31,100 –> 00:37:33,780
\nthat they know what was most
\nimportant. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:37:33,780 –> 00:37:41,540
\nIt’s the last preaching campaign
\nyou will be on and it could save<\/p>\n

520
\n00:37:41,540 –> 00:37:45,980
\nsomeone’s life that you love.
\nNow Marguerite is going to stand<\/p>\n

521
\n00:37:45,980 –> 00:37:47,900
\nup at the judgment seat and look
\nover. <\/p>\n

522
\n00:37:49,280 –> 00:37:51,880
\nAnd see someone she didn’t
\nexpect would be there. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:37:53,880 –> 00:37:55,600
\nCan you imagine the joy of that
\nmoment? <\/p>\n

524
\n00:37:57,840 –> 00:38:02,840
\nAll right, then.
\nBack into Chapter 7, verse four.<\/p>\n

525
\n00:38:03,680 –> 00:38:10,080
\nThe heart of the wise is in the
\nHouse of mourning, not in the <\/p>\n

526
\n00:38:10,080 –> 00:38:15,680
\nHouse of delight, of partying,
\nof noise, of festivity. <\/p>\n

527
\n00:38:15,680 –> 00:38:21,380
\nThe heart of the wise.
\nIs in the House of mourning Does<\/p>\n

528
\n00:38:21,460 –> 00:38:24,020
\nDoes that mean that we’re death
\nobsessed? <\/p>\n

529
\n00:38:24,100 –> 00:38:29,820
\nNo.
\nBut it means that when we are at<\/p>\n

530
\n00:38:29,820 –> 00:38:36,980
\na funeral, we’re in a time of
\ndeep reflection, looking within <\/p>\n

531
\n00:38:36,980 –> 00:38:42,740
\nand thinking through where we
\nare, taking stock of where our <\/p>\n

532
\n00:38:42,740 –> 00:38:46,660
\nheart is located, what our mind
\nis focused on. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:38:47,900 –> 00:38:52,060
\nWhere we need to be now, you
\nmight look at it that way and <\/p>\n

534
\n00:38:52,060 –> 00:38:55,500
\nsay, OK, this is talking about
\nother people’s funerals, yes, <\/p>\n

535
\n00:38:57,260 –> 00:39:02,500
\nbut think about the House of
\nMourning being the memorial <\/p>\n

536
\n00:39:02,500 –> 00:39:08,100
\nmeeting you and I are in every
\nevery week where we reflect on <\/p>\n

537
\n00:39:08,100 –> 00:39:15,460
\nthe man who gave his life for
\nus, we think about the love. <\/p>\n

538
\n00:39:17,790 –> 00:39:29,310
\nThe obedience, the suffering,
\nthe compassion, the empathy, the<\/p>\n

539
\n00:39:29,310 –> 00:39:37,910
\ndeep rapport between a man who
\nhad nothing but his faith and <\/p>\n

540
\n00:39:37,910 –> 00:39:44,270
\nhis belief in God and his love
\nfor him and his love for people <\/p>\n

541
\n00:39:44,270 –> 00:39:47,430
\nhe had not even ever met during
\nhis lifetime. <\/p>\n

542
\n00:39:49,510 –> 00:39:55,550
\nWe think and we we in that House
\nof mourning, remember His <\/p>\n

543
\n00:39:55,550 –> 00:40:02,190
\nexample that He set for us.
\nAnd then we have the uplift of <\/p>\n

544
\n00:40:02,190 –> 00:40:06,990
\nremembering in that House of
\nmourning, that it was the <\/p>\n

545
\n00:40:06,990 –> 00:40:11,110
\npathway that led to eternal life
\nfor Him. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:40:13,750 –> 00:40:18,150
\nSo his suffering had meaning.
\nWhat he went through, what he <\/p>\n

547
\n00:40:18,150 –> 00:40:23,510
\nendured, had purpose in it.
\nAnd it’s the same for you. <\/p>\n

548
\n00:40:23,510 –> 00:40:31,670
\nWhat we go through, what we
\nsuffer, is not meaningless stuff<\/p>\n

549
\n00:40:31,670 –> 00:40:35,590
\nthat happens to us by chance,
\nrandomly. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:40:37,230 –> 00:40:41,870
\nGod is at work.
\nVerse 14 of chapter seven, he <\/p>\n

551
\n00:40:41,870 –> 00:40:44,230
\nsays.
\nIn the day of prosperity. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:40:44,230 –> 00:40:48,070
\nBe joyful.
\nBut in the day of adversity, <\/p>\n

553
\n00:40:48,790 –> 00:40:57,870
\nconsider God hath even made the
\none side by side with the other <\/p>\n

554
\n00:40:58,790 –> 00:41:02,670
\nto the end.
\nThat man should not find out <\/p>\n

555
\n00:41:02,750 –> 00:41:05,230
\nanything that shall be after
\nhim. <\/p>\n

556
\n00:41:05,590 –> 00:41:11,150
\nWhat does that mean?
\nGod has deliberately put happy <\/p>\n

557
\n00:41:11,150 –> 00:41:18,040
\ndays and sad days into our life.
\nSo that we have no choice but to<\/p>\n

558
\n00:41:18,040 –> 00:41:22,320
\nreach out to him in hope so that
\nwe can’t predict. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:41:22,320 –> 00:41:25,040
\nWe don’t always know how things
\nare going to go. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:41:25,440 –> 00:41:32,160
\nThat’s in his hands.
\nOur responsibility is to trust <\/p>\n

561
\n00:41:32,160 –> 00:41:34,960
\nin him.
\nAnd when things are going well, <\/p>\n

562
\n00:41:35,480 –> 00:41:37,840
\nthat’s the last time we’re
\nreaching out to the Almighty <\/p>\n

563
\n00:41:38,680 –> 00:41:43,440
\nbecause things are going well.
\nBut our aches, our pains, our <\/p>\n

564
\n00:41:43,440 –> 00:41:47,320
\ntroubles, our heart breaks.
\nThey drive us to God. <\/p>\n

565
\n00:41:49,160 –> 00:41:55,480
\nThey drive us to cry out to Him,
\nto get close to Him, to draw him<\/p>\n

566
\n00:41:55,480 –> 00:41:59,880
\nclose to us.
\nThat that’s what this is saying <\/p>\n

567
\n00:42:00,680 –> 00:42:05,800
\nin those good days.
\nRejoice, but no, that God has <\/p>\n

568
\n00:42:05,800 –> 00:42:10,690
\nspliced into our lives.
\nThose darker threads that come <\/p>\n

569
\n00:42:10,690 –> 00:42:20,570
\nup and out into the tapestry?
\nTragedy, trauma, loss, grief, <\/p>\n

570
\n00:42:21,290 –> 00:42:25,450
\nbetrayal, disappointment,
\nheartache. <\/p>\n

571
\n00:42:26,970 –> 00:42:32,010
\nHe’s allowed, and sometimes put
\nthose things there to drive us <\/p>\n

572
\n00:42:32,010 –> 00:42:37,090
\nto him and to keep him in our
\nminds and in our hearts. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:42:38,950 –> 00:42:43,070
\nHe goes on, and we read in verse
\n19. <\/p>\n

574
\n00:42:43,950 –> 00:42:49,670
\nWisdom strengthens the wise more
\nthan 10 mighty men which are in <\/p>\n

575
\n00:42:49,670 –> 00:42:53,070
\nthe city.
\nFor there’s not a just man upon <\/p>\n

576
\n00:42:53,070 –> 00:42:58,990
\nearth that doeth good and sins.
\nNot so for people that believe <\/p>\n

577
\n00:42:59,190 –> 00:43:03,470
\noutside that it is possible to
\nlive a life without sin. <\/p>\n

578
\n00:43:04,670 –> 00:43:05,990
\nWell, God doesn’t agree with
\nyou. <\/p>\n

579
\n00:43:07,800 –> 00:43:11,840
\nBecause God inspired Solomon to
\nwrite this in the same way as <\/p>\n

580
\n00:43:11,840 –> 00:43:15,960
\nGod inspired the Lord to say
\nthere is none good, not one. <\/p>\n

581
\n00:43:16,200 –> 00:43:17,720
\nWhy?
\nWhy are you calling me good? <\/p>\n

582
\n00:43:19,520 –> 00:43:21,320
\nAnd he was the Lord Jesus
\nChrist. <\/p>\n

583
\n00:43:22,320 –> 00:43:28,080
\nSo sin, sin is part and parcel
\nof our life and the experience <\/p>\n

584
\n00:43:28,160 –> 00:43:30,520
\nof it.
\nVerse 23. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:43:30,760 –> 00:43:32,520
\nAll this have I proved by
\nwisdom. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:43:32,520 –> 00:43:36,320
\nI said I will be wise.
\nIt was far from me. <\/p>\n

587
\n00:43:37,690 –> 00:43:41,010
\nIt was far that which is far off
\nand exceeding deep. <\/p>\n

588
\n00:43:41,290 –> 00:43:45,290
\nWho can find it out?
\nI cannot figure God out. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:43:45,610 –> 00:43:48,530
\nI’ve tried and I’ve tried.
\nI can’t figure him out. <\/p>\n

590
\n00:43:49,570 –> 00:43:53,370
\nThat’s deliberate.
\nGod does not want to be figured <\/p>\n

591
\n00:43:53,370 –> 00:43:57,250
\nout by you.
\nGod wants you to trust Him and <\/p>\n

592
\n00:43:58,690 –> 00:44:06,170
\nbelieve in him and have
\nconfidence in Him, it says. <\/p>\n

593
\n00:44:06,410 –> 00:44:09,970
\nVerse 27.
\nLook, this is something I found <\/p>\n

594
\n00:44:13,850 –> 00:44:17,090
\ncounting things up 1 by 1 to
\nfigure things out and how they <\/p>\n

595
\n00:44:17,090 –> 00:44:22,890
\nwork, he says.
\nI’ve looked all around. <\/p>\n

596
\n00:44:23,810 –> 00:44:33,410
\nI have not found one wise man
\namong 1000 and then sisters. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:44:33,410 –> 00:44:39,360
\nFasten your seatbelts OK?
\nPlease do not elbow the poor man<\/p>\n

598
\n00:44:39,360 –> 00:44:43,000
\nbeside you.
\nThat sharp elbow of yours. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:44:44,000 –> 00:44:46,400
\nBut a woman among all those have
\nI not found. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:44:46,400 –> 00:44:51,400
\nNow stop, stop, stop, stop.
\nI know Sister Tony is ready to <\/p>\n

601
\n00:44:51,400 –> 00:44:54,400
\nthrow her hymn book right up to
\nthe front right now. <\/p>\n

602
\n00:44:56,840 –> 00:45:01,480
\nWhat he’s saying is this.
\nWise people are exceedingly <\/p>\n

603
\n00:45:01,480 –> 00:45:03,400
\ndifficult.
\nI’ve found so few of them. <\/p>\n

604
\n00:45:04,440 –> 00:45:07,120
\nDid he not believe that there
\nwere women who were wise? <\/p>\n

605
\n00:45:07,480 –> 00:45:12,120
\nWell, he wrote Proverbs 31 all
\nabout the virtuous woman. <\/p>\n

606
\n00:45:14,360 –> 00:45:17,520
\nIt could be that the kind of
\nwomen he surrounded himself with<\/p>\n

607
\n00:45:18,600 –> 00:45:29,280
\n700 wives, 300 concubines.
\nThat’s girls you play around <\/p>\n

608
\n00:45:29,280 –> 00:45:33,950
\nwith and don’t have a close
\nrelationship with. 1000 He <\/p>\n

609
\n00:45:33,950 –> 00:45:37,910
\ncollected them like stamps and
\njust like stamps. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:45:37,950 –> 00:45:39,990
\nOh, that’s a good one there.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

611
\n00:45:40,030 –> 00:45:44,390
\nLet’s look at the next page.
\nNo relationship. <\/p>\n

612
\n00:45:44,510 –> 00:45:47,070
\nThis was an altogether lonely
\nman. <\/p>\n

613
\n00:45:49,070 –> 00:45:53,590
\nHe found very few wise people.
\nAnd of the women he accumulated,<\/p>\n

614
\n00:45:53,590 –> 00:45:56,150
\nwell, wisdom was not an
\nattribute he was looking for. <\/p>\n

615
\n00:45:56,910 –> 00:46:01,430
\nNo wonder he couldn’t find one.
\nBut he knew that they were out <\/p>\n

616
\n00:46:01,430 –> 00:46:04,200
\nthere.
\nThroughout Scripture, we have <\/p>\n

617
\n00:46:04,200 –> 00:46:11,600
\nwonderful, wise women, starting
\nwith Eve and all the way through<\/p>\n

618
\n00:46:11,600 –> 00:46:16,080
\nto our sisters here in this
\nroom, right beside you, brother,<\/p>\n

619
\n00:46:17,200 –> 00:46:22,600
\nright beside you.
\nNow, some stupid Christadelphian<\/p>\n

620
\n00:46:22,600 –> 00:46:27,720
\ninterpreters have taken that to
\nmean that men are naturally more<\/p>\n

621
\n00:46:27,720 –> 00:46:32,330
\nwise than women and wisdom.
\nWisdom is lacking in sisters. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:46:34,290 –> 00:46:37,930
\nThat is an altogether idiotic
\nman who wrote that. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:46:38,970 –> 00:46:42,050
\nI will not dignify that with
\nanything other than that he’s <\/p>\n

624
\n00:46:42,530 –> 00:46:49,050
\nhe’s just a fool and it betrays
\nA mindset towards women that <\/p>\n

625
\n00:46:49,050 –> 00:46:52,370
\nwill then play itself out.
\nAnd how he treats his wife, his <\/p>\n

626
\n00:46:52,370 –> 00:46:56,170
\ndaughters, his mother, his
\nsisters and the women in the <\/p>\n

627
\n00:46:56,170 –> 00:47:00,270
\necclesia.
\nWe could not make it without our<\/p>\n

628
\n00:47:00,270 –> 00:47:03,910
\nsisters.
\nSisters are like nurses in the <\/p>\n

629
\n00:47:03,910 –> 00:47:07,950
\nhealthcare system.
\nIt isn’t the fancy surgeons and <\/p>\n

630
\n00:47:07,950 –> 00:47:11,350
\ntheir big fat Eagles who hold
\nthe healthcare system together. <\/p>\n

631
\n00:47:12,150 –> 00:47:16,110
\nIt is the nurses.
\nAnd it’s the same with our <\/p>\n

632
\n00:47:16,110 –> 00:47:21,830
\nsisters and our ecclesias and in
\nour families and in our lives. <\/p>\n

633
\n00:47:23,030 –> 00:47:26,270
\nAnd so whatever, he may have
\nwritten in that moment of pique.<\/p>\n

634
\n00:47:27,280 –> 00:47:30,440
\nRemember, he wrote it as a
\nflawed individual, and God lets <\/p>\n

635
\n00:47:30,440 –> 00:47:34,560
\nit stay right in the text.
\nIt’s right there for us to see. <\/p>\n

636
\n00:47:36,200 –> 00:47:39,440
\nWe are surrounded by wise women
\nand men. <\/p>\n

637
\n00:47:40,560 –> 00:47:44,400
\nWe need to be grateful for them.
\nWe need to honor them. <\/p>\n

638
\n00:47:45,960 –> 00:47:50,240
\nWe need to seek their counsel,
\ntheir advice, their feedback, <\/p>\n

639
\n00:47:50,800 –> 00:47:53,520
\ntheir input.
\nYes, the buck stops with us. <\/p>\n

640
\n00:47:53,880 –> 00:47:56,960
\nWe cannot throw that yolk off
\nour necks. <\/p>\n

641
\n00:47:58,480 –> 00:48:03,240
\nBut we need to treat our sisters
\nas partners in our ecclesias. <\/p>\n

642
\n00:48:04,840 –> 00:48:08,400
\nThey have much to offer, much
\nwisdom to share. <\/p>\n

643
\n00:48:09,760 –> 00:48:12,360
\nSolomon didn’t have any like
\nthat around him. <\/p>\n

644
\n00:48:13,560 –> 00:48:16,280
\nEvery ecclesia is filled with
\nwomen like that. <\/p>\n

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197: Dev Ramcharan – Coping In A Fallen World<\/a><\/blockquote>