{"id":403,"date":"2018-11-21T04:23:47","date_gmt":"2018-11-21T04:23:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/008-david-fraser-can-creation-and-modern-science-co-exist\/"},"modified":"2026-09-16T23:26:37","modified_gmt":"2026-09-16T23:26:37","slug":"008-david-fraser-can-creation-and-modern-science-co-exist","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/008-david-fraser-can-creation-and-modern-science-co-exist\/","title":{"rendered":"008: David Fraser – Can Creation and Modern Science Co-Exist?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Today we are listening to a talk by Bro. David Fraser given at Pinetown in South Africa in 2018 titled \u201cCan Creation and Modern Science Co-Exist?\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to the good Christian
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\nI’m Levi.
\nAnd I’m Chris. <\/p>\n

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\nThank you so much for joining us
\nthis week. <\/p>\n

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\nus.
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\nfeed.
\nWe post at the start of each <\/p>\n

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\nweek for you to listen.
\nWith a short intro beforehand to<\/p>\n

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\nkind of set the stage for the
\ntalk, you’re about to hear. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now let’s hear more about
\nthis week’s talk. <\/p>\n

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\nSo this talk from David Frazier
\nwas fantastic, both of us, <\/p>\n

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\nreally enjoyed it and we are
\nrecording this intro together <\/p>\n

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\nfor our first time on this show.
\nNow, neither of us are <\/p>\n

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\nscientists, which I think is the
\nimportant Point leading into <\/p>\n

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\nthis talk because there’s a lot
\nof debate around a topic like <\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nYeah, there’s there’s a lot of <\/p>\n

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\nways that people approach
\ncreation and how creation fits <\/p>\n

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\nwith modern science.
\nAs man has grown his knowledge <\/p>\n

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\nhouse nature and the world
\naround us works. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we realize that for some
\npeople this topic Is a major <\/p>\n

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\npoint of faith for them
\nunderstanding creation and how <\/p>\n

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\nit worked, and how God created
\nthe world in the universe and us<\/p>\n

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\nfor myself, it’s not a super
\ncritical point. <\/p>\n

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\nDon’t know about.
\nI think it’s the same for me. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean, we kind of both
\nrecognize that all things come <\/p>\n

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\nfrom God, but but we feel
\nnervous to talk about this topic<\/p>\n

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\nbecause we know it’s divisive in
\nother countries. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s really not for us because
\nwe’re both here in Southern <\/p>\n

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\nCalifornia.
\nIt hasn’t been a major issue <\/p>\n

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\nyet.
\nBut also, like we’re saying for <\/p>\n

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\neach of us for our individual
\nFaith. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I think we would try to put
\nthis before we started <\/p>\n

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\nrecording.
\nIt’s not a major Faith white, <\/p>\n

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\nbut we respect that.
\nIt is for some people. <\/p>\n

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\nBut David Fraser here lays out a
\ncase that I think is very <\/p>\n

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\ncompelling and encouraging for
\nreally anyone because he has a <\/p>\n

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\nhumility.
\nI think that’s the most <\/p>\n

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\nimportant part about this
\npresentation is he has a <\/p>\n

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\nhumility to respect the truth.
\nThat is in both the Bible and <\/p>\n

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\nnature.
\nI think one of the things that I<\/p>\n

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\nreally liked about his
\npresentation was he starts off <\/p>\n

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\nby making the very clear
\ndistinction that what’s the role<\/p>\n

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\nof the Bible and of the creation
\naccount that we read in the <\/p>\n

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\nscriptures, it’s not.
\nThe Bible is not a scientific <\/p>\n

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\ntextbook, it’s not intended to
\nteach us the scientific method <\/p>\n

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\nor you know how cells are
\ncreated or anything like that. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s not the role of it.
\nHe makes the point that if you <\/p>\n

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\ntry to make the Bible into a
\nmethod of teaching science, <\/p>\n

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\nyou’re going to get yourself
\ninto trouble because the purpose<\/p>\n

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\nof the Bible isn’t to teach
\nScience. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s the teach the truth and to
\nmake it applicable and <\/p>\n

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\napproachable to anybody of any
\nlevel of learning. <\/p>\n

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\nWe have to remember that this
\nwas something that was being <\/p>\n

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\ntaught to people before modern
\nscience. <\/p>\n

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\nWas even a thought in Humanity’s
\nmind, right? <\/p>\n

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\nBut so it’s still applicable now
\nbut at the same time I was <\/p>\n

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\ndurable.
\nScience, is a record left by <\/p>\n

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\nGod, Brother.
\nDavid says, a couple times in <\/p>\n

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\nthis talk that there is a truth
\nto what we can observe in nature<\/p>\n

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\nand in science.
\nHe says that later in the talk, <\/p>\n

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\nI think it’s in the last, like,
\nkind of third that you can’t <\/p>\n

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\nhave a theologian meet a
\nscientist completely in the <\/p>\n

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\nmiddle, there is a space between
\ntheir the words. <\/p>\n

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\nHe uses are very impactful for
\nme and I think they’re going to <\/p>\n

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\nbe impactful for anyone who
\nlistens. <\/p>\n

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\nThere are two records, the Bible
\nand nature. <\/p>\n

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\nI think both of us are a little
\nnervous about postings talk <\/p>\n

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\nknowing the controversy, I guess
\nthat’s around this, but we still<\/p>\n

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\nthink it’s worth it because this
\nis a good one. <\/p>\n

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\nSo David Fraser Cain creation of
\nmodern science. <\/p>\n

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\nClose this.
\nMy dear friends, it’s an <\/p>\n

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\ninteresting topic because a lot
\nof people in today’s world think<\/p>\n

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\nthat these two are diametrically
\nopposed, they think that <\/p>\n

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\ncreation and science are equal
\nand opposite poles, and can <\/p>\n

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\nnever reconcile.
\nAnd if you speak to a lot of <\/p>\n

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\npeople, they think that if you
\nbelieve in creation, you can’t <\/p>\n

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\nbelieve in science and vice
\nversa. <\/p>\n

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\nSo we’d like to look at this
\ntoday, under three main headings<\/p>\n

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\nwill look at the creation
\nbriefly, obviously we can’t look<\/p>\n

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\nat it in macro sin microscopic
\ndetail and they will look a <\/p>\n

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\nlittle bit about what modern
\nscience is about and <\/p>\n

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\nparticularly modern science and
\ncreation and what modern science<\/p>\n

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\nhas to say about the data of
\ncreation. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd then we were trying to
\nanswer the final question as to <\/p>\n

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\nwhether they can coexist.
\nSo Creation itself. <\/p>\n

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\nThe creation itself in the Bible
\nis presented for us. <\/p>\n

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\nIn those beautiful words of
\nGenesis 1 verse 1 probably the <\/p>\n

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\ndensest of all significant
\nverses in the entire Bible that <\/p>\n

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\nprologue to the Bible actually
\nsets the tone for the entire 66 <\/p>\n

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\nbooks of the Bible.
\nIt is a verse that is denser <\/p>\n

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\nwith meaning and importance than
\nprobably any other verse in the <\/p>\n

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\nentire Bible.
\nAnd this wonderful verse which <\/p>\n

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\nspeaks about in the beginning,
\nGod created the heavens and the <\/p>\n

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\nEarth tells us a whole lot of
\nthings directly by implication <\/p>\n

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\nand also by inference.
\nSo let’s have a look at some of <\/p>\n

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\nthese things.
\nWhat does Genesis 1 verse 1, <\/p>\n

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\ntell us about the universe
\nitself. <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis 1 verse 1 says, it was a
\ncreated thing. <\/p>\n

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\nIt didn’t just spontaneously
\ncome in to be Genesis, one tells<\/p>\n

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\nus that it was a willful act.
\nIt was created by somebody and <\/p>\n

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\nit was created with intent with
\npurpose. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd with meaning it’s not just
\nmerely a blind collection of <\/p>\n

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\nforces and material that make up
\nthe universe. <\/p>\n

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\nIt says there was an intent.
\nTo create all that is, there was<\/p>\n

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\nsomething behind it, a purpose
\nand meaning. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it also says it had a
\nbeginning. <\/p>\n

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\nThere was a time when matter and
\ntime itself did not exist. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was a time when all of these
\nthings came into be time itself <\/p>\n

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\nstarted.
\nWhen the universe was created, <\/p>\n

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\nWe see this encompassed in that
\nterm, everything because the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse is everything that is
\nand that idiom that’s used in <\/p>\n

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\nthe scripture, Heaven and Earth,
\nactually means everything. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a Hebrew idiom that talks
\nabout everything. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s like saying everything
\ninside and outside, it means <\/p>\n

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\neverything.
\nYou can’t exclude anything from <\/p>\n

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\nthat.
\nThat’s what that idiom Heaven. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Earth means it’s saying that
\nit’s as the totality of all. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was created in the beginning.
\nAnd it consists of all space and<\/p>\n

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\nall time.
\nAnd time did not exist outside <\/p>\n

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\nof that which was created in
\nGenesis 1 verse one time, as a <\/p>\n

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\nprincipal only exists in the
\nuniverse in which we currently <\/p>\n

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\nare and I can even show to you
\nthat time is relevant just to <\/p>\n

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\nyou or to me there is no.
\nNow in the universe there’s just<\/p>\n

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\na time that is relevant to me
\nand his time relevant to you <\/p>\n

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\ntalk stick differently at the
\ntop of the mountain. <\/p>\n

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\nCompared with that the sea.
\nDo you know that there is no? <\/p>\n

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\nAbsolute time.
\nAnd time outside the universe <\/p>\n

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\ndid not exist without God.
\nAnd the last important Point <\/p>\n

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\nhere is that certain laws were
\nestablished at the very <\/p>\n

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\ncommencement of the universe
\nwhich were essential for the <\/p>\n

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\npurposefulness of this universe
\nto bring forth life if those <\/p>\n

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\nlaws weren’t exactly right at
\nthe beginning of the universe. <\/p>\n

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\nYou and I wouldn’t be here.
\nWe couldn’t possibly happy <\/p>\n

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\nhaving this discussion this
\nmorning. <\/p>\n

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\nSo what it’s saying is that
\nthere were laws and principles <\/p>\n

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\nembedded into the very fabric Of
\nspace and time as metamaterial <\/p>\n

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\nthat are designed for you and I
\nto have life. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s remarkable thing was
\nthose laws were good and perfect<\/p>\n

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\nand true.
\nAnd Genesis 1 tells us a couple <\/p>\n

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\nof things about God as well.
\nOf course. <\/p>\n

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\nIt says that God is a Creator.
\nSo a God who makes something out<\/p>\n

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\nof nothing.
\nBut not only that, he is the <\/p>\n

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\ncreator.
\nThe God, Who is the only one who<\/p>\n

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\nis doing this work, he is the
\nomnipotent. <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis 1:1 also tells us that
\nGod, existed prior to the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse coming into being that
\nall that we see is a product and<\/p>\n

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\na subset of the greatness of
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nHe is eternal and Beyond Time.
\nAnd beyond space, he can dip <\/p>\n

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\ninto the past, the present and
\nthe future equally because they <\/p>\n

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\nunderneath him.
\nThey are a subset of what God <\/p>\n

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\nis.
\nGod is greater than the entire <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse because it is a product
\nof his will. <\/p>\n

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\nHe willed it into being, and so
\nit came forth. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a remarkable thing you.
\nAnd I have to put a lot of <\/p>\n

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\neffort into make the smallest of
\nthings. <\/p>\n

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\nGod’s power in his will will
\nthis universe into being. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it came for And he’s this
\nGod as we said who exists <\/p>\n

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\noutside of all space and outside
\nof all time and is bounded by <\/p>\n

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\nneither its us silly humans who
\ntry and put limitations and <\/p>\n

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\nShackles on God he is Limitless
\nin every sense of the word he is<\/p>\n

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\nbounded by another space or
\ntime. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it’s interesting that right
\nback in the beginning. <\/p>\n

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\nGod creates a distinction in the
\nvery first verse of the Bible <\/p>\n

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\nbetween that, which is Off the
\nEarth and that, which is off the<\/p>\n

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\nheavens.
\nAnd the interesting thing there <\/p>\n

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\nis not so much talking about
\nplanetary space, it’s saying <\/p>\n

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\nabout the things that are
\nrelated to of the earth earthy <\/p>\n

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\nand of the Heavenly and the
\nHeavenly way of thinking. <\/p>\n

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\nIn other words, God was adding a
\nspiritual realm right into the <\/p>\n

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\nphysical nature.
\nJust the universe, he was <\/p>\n

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\nweaving into it.
\nThis whole wonderful tapestry of<\/p>\n

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\nthere, being a spiritual
\npurpose, behind the physical <\/p>\n

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\ncreation.
\nThere is meaning and purpose in <\/p>\n

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\nall that God did Now, the race
\nof the first four chapters of <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis, which are the creation
\ntexts, are all they to teach us <\/p>\n

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\nwonderful things, they there to
\nteach us the principles of a God<\/p>\n

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\nprincipled or God purpose life.
\nNow, if you think about these <\/p>\n

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\nparallels, we’ve got a universe
\nthat is designed by God to <\/p>\n

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\nsupport life.
\nAnd then we’ve got Genesis, <\/p>\n

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\nwhich is teaching us the
\nprinciples of a god, supported <\/p>\n

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\nlife.
\nThe two are running in parallel <\/p>\n

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\nand I hope if that’s one thing
\nyou remember from Today, that <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s the principal.
\nYou remember the whole of <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis?
\nWas there to teach God’s purpose<\/p>\n

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\nin life and it just have a look
\nat what I mean. <\/p>\n

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\nJust by our, I’ll just run
\nthrough one or two summaries. <\/p>\n

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\nGod talks about separation of
\nlight, and dark day and night <\/p>\n

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\nWaters from above from Waters,
\nfrom beneath separation. <\/p>\n

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\nThe principles of separation of
\nthe Earth from the sea, That the<\/p>\n

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\nEarth was to bring forth life of
\nits own, the Earth, had to yield<\/p>\n

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\nfruit.
\nThe Earth had to do something of<\/p>\n

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\nitself.
\nAnd as a result, we’ve got these<\/p>\n

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\nwonderful two kingdoms, the
\nplant kingdom and the animal <\/p>\n

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\nkingdom.
\nAnd again, there’s a separation <\/p>\n

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\nbetween animals and man, animals
\nwere not the same as man, and in<\/p>\n

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\nterms of principles and
\nthinking, and God had to show <\/p>\n

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\nAdam that.
\nAnd at the very beginning of <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis, they were in positions
\nof laws and principles for <\/p>\n

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\nsustainable life, just like the
\nphysical Universe. <\/p>\n

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\nGod, put these laws and in
\nGenesis, to show the way that <\/p>\n

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\nyou and I should have
\nsustainable life and those are <\/p>\n

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\nthe laws upon the trees.
\nAnd then, of course, we’ve got <\/p>\n

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\nthe rule of Free Will being
\nestablished. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd why that’s important is,
\nit’s teaching you and me that we<\/p>\n

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\nhave to question things, we have
\nto have the ability to have a <\/p>\n

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\nreasoned Faith.
\nThe reason Behavior, not just <\/p>\n

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\nblindly going along with what
\nthe masses tell us. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd then another principle is
\nthat there’s a separation <\/p>\n

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\nbetween the way that animals
\nthink, and the way that God <\/p>\n

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\nthinks and wants us to think,
\nand of course, we know that to <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis was all about dealing
\nwith failure. <\/p>\n

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\nFailure to reason Godly in a
\nGodly way and dealing with <\/p>\n

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\nerrors and the principles of
\nseparation from life. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean, finally, that wonderful
\npath of recovery. <\/p>\n

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\nThat all of these things were
\nkept the way of the tree of life<\/p>\n

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\nwas Kept For Those Who Would One
\nDay, find it, once again. <\/p>\n

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\nSo Genesis is all about doing
\none thing and if you read <\/p>\n

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\nthrough Genesis, the first four
\nchapters very carefully, what do<\/p>\n

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\nyou see?
\nYou see the emphasis is on the <\/p>\n

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\nword of God.
\nGod spoke and it was so God <\/p>\n

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\nspoke with Adam and the cool of
\nthe day. <\/p>\n

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\nGod said, the following things,
\nthis was the mind of God. <\/p>\n

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\nNow, in a spiritual creation,
\nwas trying to create this Adam <\/p>\n

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\nand Eve who would follow him at
\na spiritual level, but they <\/p>\n

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\ndevolved back to an Earthly
\nlevel, a way of thinking. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the wonderful thing about
\nthis word of God, it was present<\/p>\n

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\nat the beginning of creation for
\nthe universe. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd there’s isn’t Genesis
\nteaching. <\/p>\n

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\nPeople principles of Life of
\nthought and tainted action. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s what word means.
\nThere’s a lovely Psalm, which <\/p>\n

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\nsays this exactly.
\nIn Psalm 33, verse 6 by the word<\/p>\n

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\nof the Lord, the heavens were
\nmade and all the host of them by<\/p>\n

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\nthe breath of his mouth.
\nNow, you and I know that stars <\/p>\n

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\nand planets and galaxies aren’t
\nblown into existence and you see<\/p>\n

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\nthis is where we can sometimes
\nbecome silly. <\/p>\n

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\nIf we start to assume that God
\nis scooping out the Grand Canyon<\/p>\n

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\nor painting butterflies Wings.
\nIt minimizes the greatness of <\/p>\n

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\nGod God is saying I just need to
\nthink it and it is so I need to <\/p>\n

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\nwill it and it becomes so
\nbecause I’ve said every law <\/p>\n

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\nperfectly For that to be the
\ncase and that’s a wonderfully <\/p>\n

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\ncomforting thing because the
\nvery self same laws that sustain<\/p>\n

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\nlife in also, sustained
\nspiritual life. <\/p>\n

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\nIf we follow them with the same
\nadherence, there’s another verse<\/p>\n

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\nagain from the Jewish Bible
\nHebrews. 11 verse 3 by trusting <\/p>\n

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\nor by faith.
\nWe understand that the Universe <\/p>\n

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\nwas created through a spoken
\nword of God. <\/p>\n

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\nSee this is what scriptures
\nalways telling us is that the <\/p>\n

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\nword of God is preeminent.
\nIt is the principal thing. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is the mind of God in the
\nform that can do things and can <\/p>\n

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\nimpact.
\nSo the universe was created <\/p>\n

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\nthrough the spoken word of God.
\nSo that which is seen what we <\/p>\n

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\ncan look at in the physical
\nworld is, did not come into <\/p>\n

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\nbeing out of existing phenomena.
\nNow that’s very interesting. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s very interesting at a
\nscientific level because it’s <\/p>\n

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\nsaying that there wasn’t Another
\nUniverse before this that was <\/p>\n

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\nsimply recycled and this became
\nthe next version of the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse.
\nIt’s not saying that they were a<\/p>\n

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\nwhole lot of other materials
\naround that would just simply <\/p>\n

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\nrepurposed for this universe.
\nThis universe was custom <\/p>\n

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\ndesigned by God.
\nFor life to exist for sentient <\/p>\n

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\nbeings to be in it that can
\nworship and love him and follow <\/p>\n

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\nhis higher Heavenly principles,
\nand all of these things <\/p>\n

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\nhappened.
\nThrough merely the spoken word, <\/p>\n

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\nit’s incredibly powerful.
\nSo what we have to understand is<\/p>\n

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\nthat Genesis teaches us the why?
\nAnd not the heart. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd if we going to do ourselves,
\na great service in understanding<\/p>\n

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\nGod, we need to keep
\nunderstanding why these things <\/p>\n

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\nhappen.
\nWe need to look at the <\/p>\n

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\nprinciples behind them.
\nIf we try and lead to Genesis <\/p>\n

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\nteach us science you and I are
\ngoing to be grossly, letdown it <\/p>\n

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\nis not a scientific textbook.
\nHave you ever thought why can’t <\/p>\n

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\nbe a scientific textbook?
\nIt had to appeal to people <\/p>\n

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\nthousands of years ago, who
\ndidn’t have any of the science <\/p>\n

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\nand knowledge.
\nWe have it said to appeal to <\/p>\n

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\npeople of great education and
\nhave no education. <\/p>\n

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\nIt had to have principles that
\npermeated all pouches, whether <\/p>\n

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\nthey were sophisticated
\nAdvanced, Swiss watch, makers, <\/p>\n

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\nor people from rural area, the
\nsame word of God is going to <\/p>\n

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\nappeal, to them, equally with
\nthe same important measure. <\/p>\n

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\nGod is not teaching us science
\nin the Bible and we do ourselves<\/p>\n

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\na huge disservice.
\nIf we try and take this Bible <\/p>\n

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\nand make it try and teach
\nscientific principles, we end up<\/p>\n

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\nlooking like fools and we got to
\nbe very Be careful that we never<\/p>\n

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\ndo that.
\nIt’s not a scientific text and <\/p>\n

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\nyou know what?
\nIt’s wonderful that it isn’t a <\/p>\n

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\nscientific text because it’s so
\nfar beyond our thinking, what <\/p>\n

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\nGod has done that you and I
\ncould never understand it. <\/p>\n

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\nCould you and I understand how
\nGod could make something out of <\/p>\n

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\nnothing, there is no science.
\nThat explains that Isaiah, 45 <\/p>\n

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\nVerse 18 says, thus says the
\nLord who created the heavens, <\/p>\n

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\nwho is God, who formed the Earth
\nand made it who has established <\/p>\n

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\nit.
\nWho did not create it in vain <\/p>\n

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\nwho formed it to be inhabited?
\nI am the lord and there is no <\/p>\n

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\nother Why is that verse so
\nimportant? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s important because God says
\nthat the physical creation of <\/p>\n

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\nthe universe is therefore
\npurpose, it is a purposeful <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse that he created.
\nHe didn’t just create it to make<\/p>\n

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\nbeautiful nebula and wonderful
\nstars and a beautiful Alpine <\/p>\n

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\nValley.
\nGod didn’t create the world for <\/p>\n

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\nthose purposes though, they are
\nbeautiful. <\/p>\n

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\nHe created it for purpose.
\nIn vain for vanity saying he <\/p>\n

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\ncreated to be inhabited by
\npeople who love and worship him <\/p>\n

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\nas the great Creator.
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nSo, what does science have to do
\nwith this modern science? <\/p>\n

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\nWhile science deals with the how
\nquestions not the why questions <\/p>\n

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\nscience has got to do with
\nmeasurement reading. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it sounds like it’s dumbing
\nit down but it really isn’t. <\/p>\n

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\nIf you can’t measure it with
\nsome instrument or some <\/p>\n

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\nprinciple or some law or some
\nprocess, it isn’t science. <\/p>\n

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\nIf it can’t be measured, science
\ndoes not apply and keep <\/p>\n

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\nremembering that because, you
\nknow what science can measure <\/p>\n

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\nhow much.
\nA mother loves her children. <\/p>\n

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\nThere is no unit of measure for
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s no way of quantifying
\nit. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s no way of quantifying
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\nof science.
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\nthings that can be measured.
\nHere’s an example of <\/p>\n

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\nmeasurement, the two largest
\nEarthbound telescopes at the <\/p>\n

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\nmoment are in Hawaii and the
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\nthe, the Milky Way so that they
\ncan precisely measure, the <\/p>\n

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\nOptics of the atmosphere to
\nadjust for them. <\/p>\n

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\nSo they can get a really good
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\nYou see, it’s about
\nmeasurements. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s about analysis.
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\nit’s about getting things
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\nThat’s what could Inches.
\nAnd scientists, of course, you <\/p>\n

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\nknow, it covers many different
\ndomains that the principal about<\/p>\n

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\nscience starts with questions.
\nAnd it’s a good thing science is<\/p>\n

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\nabout asking you a question and
\nthen doing some background <\/p>\n

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\nresearch, often constructing an
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\nAnd I thought this is something
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\nsomething. <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:20,400 –> 00:21:25,000
\nDoes this glass of water boil,
\nhigher at a higher point on the <\/p>\n

334
\n00:21:25,000 –> 00:21:27,600
\nmountains, compared, with the
\nsea and you test it? <\/p>\n

335
\n00:21:29,600 –> 00:21:31,900
\nAnd then you see with the
\nprocedures working or not, you <\/p>\n

336
\n00:21:31,900 –> 00:21:35,600
\nmight change your experiment and
\nthen you’d write it up and you <\/p>\n

337
\n00:21:35,600 –> 00:21:38,000
\npublish it and you might, then
\ngo and say, well, let’s try <\/p>\n

338
\n00:21:38,000 –> 00:21:40,600
\nanother experiment.
\nThat’s the sum total of what <\/p>\n

339
\n00:21:40,600 –> 00:21:44,000
\nscience is, whether it’s the
\nwonderful science of that <\/p>\n

340
\n00:21:44,000 –> 00:21:46,300
\nprojector, which uses Quantum
\neffects. <\/p>\n

341
\n00:21:46,300 –> 00:21:48,600
\nActually make these colors
\nappear on the screen. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:21:49,000 –> 00:21:52,100
\nIt’s all the same thing.
\nIt’s this process that keeps <\/p>\n

343
\n00:21:52,100 –> 00:21:55,400
\ngetting used and that process
\napplies to things that can be <\/p>\n

344
\n00:21:55,400 –> 00:21:59,600
\nmeasured the physical world.
\nIt doesn’t apply to the <\/p>\n

345
\n00:21:59,600 –> 00:22:02,600
\nspiritual to the Y to the
\npurpose of things. <\/p>\n

346
\n00:22:04,900 –> 00:22:08,100
\nSo, what does modern science
\nthen have to say about what <\/p>\n

347
\n00:22:08,100 –> 00:22:10,700
\nwe’ve been talking about the
\ntopic of creation? <\/p>\n

348
\n00:22:14,900 –> 00:22:18,900
\nWell, interestingly enough most
\nscientists would say that it’s <\/p>\n

349
\n00:22:18,900 –> 00:22:21,100
\nactually a very life friendly
\nuniverse. <\/p>\n

350
\n00:22:22,400 –> 00:22:26,600
\nThey would agree that it’s a
\nbio-friendly universe that <\/p>\n

351
\n00:22:26,600 –> 00:22:29,500
\nscenes from their observations
\nas scientists. <\/p>\n

352
\n00:22:29,500 –> 00:22:33,100
\nAnd not gonna remember, they’re
\nnot necessarily believe is to be<\/p>\n

353
\n00:22:33,100 –> 00:22:38,100
\npre prepared for life.
\nIt’s actually from their point <\/p>\n

354
\n00:22:38,100 –> 00:22:43,400
\nof view, set up for life.
\nAnd they say that it’s a <\/p>\n

355
\n00:22:43,400 –> 00:22:46,800
\nuniverse with laws and
\nmechanisms and processes that <\/p>\n

356
\n00:22:46,800 –> 00:22:49,200
\nhave been established right from
\nthe beginning of time. <\/p>\n

357
\n00:22:50,100 –> 00:22:53,700
\nAnd the wonderful thing about
\nthese universal laws is that by <\/p>\n

358
\n00:22:53,700 –> 00:22:57,600
\nthe by the implication that are
\nUniversal, they apply the same <\/p>\n

359
\n00:22:57,600 –> 00:23:01,600
\nhere as an staff.
\nFour and a half, light-years <\/p>\n

360
\n00:23:01,600 –> 00:23:05,300
\naway as to the other side of the
\nuniverse, the same laws, apply <\/p>\n

361
\n00:23:05,300 –> 00:23:08,400
\nequally everywhere.
\nThat’s the wonderful thing about<\/p>\n

362
\n00:23:08,400 –> 00:23:12,500
\nthe consistency of what God is
\nbaked into the universe, in its <\/p>\n

363
\n00:23:12,500 –> 00:23:18,400
\nvery recipe of creation.
\nAnd that they wonderful ordered <\/p>\n

364
\n00:23:18,400 –> 00:23:22,000
\nprocesses that both support and
\nsustain life. <\/p>\n

365
\n00:23:22,700 –> 00:23:26,200
\nIt’s universe that doesn’t only
\nlet life exists but it lets it <\/p>\n

366
\n00:23:26,600 –> 00:23:30,700
\nabound and be very diverse.
\nYou know for example in our <\/p>\n

367
\n00:23:30,700 –> 00:23:34,100
\nlifetimes there are whole lot of
\nnew species that have actually <\/p>\n

368
\n00:23:34,100 –> 00:23:38,500
\njust come into existence in our
\nlifetime because these laws are <\/p>\n

369
\n00:23:38,500 –> 00:23:40,500
\nthere.
\nThey good and they work. <\/p>\n

370
\n00:23:43,900 –> 00:23:45,900
\nThe wonderful things for
\nexample, just about the <\/p>\n

371
\n00:23:45,900 –> 00:23:48,300
\nchemistry of carbon.
\nWhy are we carbon-based? <\/p>\n

372
\n00:23:48,300 –> 00:23:51,800
\nLife-forms, there’s a whole lot
\nabout the physical chemical and <\/p>\n

373
\n00:23:51,800 –> 00:23:56,000
\nbiological nature of carbon.
\nThat makes sense that makes us <\/p>\n

374
\n00:23:56,000 –> 00:23:59,400
\nas human beings work in the
\nworld, in which we are. <\/p>\n

375
\n00:24:01,000 –> 00:24:05,400
\nAnd the sum total of all of this
\nis that without that we wouldn’t<\/p>\n

376
\n00:24:05,400 –> 00:24:07,200
\nbe here.
\nWe couldn’t exist. <\/p>\n

377
\n00:24:07,800 –> 00:24:09,800
\nAnd most scientists would
\nactually agree with that <\/p>\n

378
\n00:24:09,800 –> 00:24:14,100
\nstatement.
\nIn fact, the topic is often <\/p>\n

379
\n00:24:14,200 –> 00:24:18,600
\ndescribed as fine-tuned universe
\nor they use the other fancy at <\/p>\n

380
\n00:24:18,600 –> 00:24:22,700
\nword, the anthropic universe and
\nTropic, simply meaning life <\/p>\n

381
\n00:24:22,700 –> 00:24:26,500
\nsupporting some will say, it’s
\nvery strong, the anthropic some <\/p>\n

382
\n00:24:26,500 –> 00:24:29,000
\nsay, weekly anthropic.
\nBut everybody says, it’s <\/p>\n

383
\n00:24:29,000 –> 00:24:30,900
\nanthropic certainly
\nlife-supporting. <\/p>\n

384
\n00:24:30,900 –> 00:24:33,800
\nBecause the evidence is here.
\nWe are here. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:24:34,600 –> 00:24:36,500
\nYou can’t say it’s not
\nlife-supporting when we were <\/p>\n

386
\n00:24:36,500 –> 00:24:39,400
\nwalking around itself
\nevidentially. <\/p>\n

387
\n00:24:39,400 –> 00:24:42,500
\nTrue it is.
\nIs a life-supporting universe. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:24:44,800 –> 00:24:48,600
\nAnd the remarkable thing is that
\nall of these things happened, <\/p>\n

389
\n00:24:49,100 –> 00:24:53,900
\nway back at the beginning of
\ntime over here, those laws were <\/p>\n

390
\n00:24:53,900 –> 00:24:57,600
\nset up at the beginning of time.
\nWhen the universe was formed, <\/p>\n

391
\n00:24:57,600 –> 00:25:02,000
\nthis is all of space and this is
\nall of time and we are here in <\/p>\n

392
\n00:25:02,000 –> 00:25:06,100
\nour beautiful planet, which is
\nabout 3.8 billion years old. <\/p>\n

393
\n00:25:07,500 –> 00:25:10,900
\nAnd all of the laws were set up
\nin this early phase of the <\/p>\n

394
\n00:25:10,900 –> 00:25:12,900
\nuniverse and I’ll show you that
\nin a moment. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:25:15,200 –> 00:25:18,700
\nMost scientists have would agree
\nthat they’re round about 40 <\/p>\n

396
\n00:25:18,700 –> 00:25:24,300
\nparameters that are required in
\nspace in physics for this <\/p>\n

397
\n00:25:24,300 –> 00:25:28,100
\nUniversity exists.
\nNow, imagine if you had 40 radio<\/p>\n

398
\n00:25:28,100 –> 00:25:32,600
\nknots right, and you had to to
\ntune them and here to tune them <\/p>\n

399
\n00:25:32,600 –> 00:25:33,700
\nall.
\nExactly. <\/p>\n

400
\n00:25:34,700 –> 00:25:38,100
\nAnd when I mean exactly so
\nexactly that some of them, if <\/p>\n

401
\n00:25:38,100 –> 00:25:42,100
\nyou blew on them you would knock
\nthem off that balance, right? <\/p>\n

402
\n00:25:42,900 –> 00:25:46,000
\nAnd yet to get them all at the
\nright positions as this one <\/p>\n

403
\n00:25:46,000 –> 00:25:48,800
\ndecreased that when they will go
\nup you’d have to balance them <\/p>\n

404
\n00:25:48,800 –> 00:25:54,200
\nwill all 40.
\nAnd you’d have to do that in one<\/p>\n

405
\n00:25:54,200 –> 00:25:56,000
\nmillionth of a millionth of a
\nsecond. <\/p>\n

406
\n00:25:57,000 –> 00:25:59,600
\nBecause that’s the time that it
\ntook in the early part of the <\/p>\n

407
\n00:25:59,600 –> 00:26:04,400
\nuniverse for God to form all
\nthose key parameters. <\/p>\n

408
\n00:26:04,700 –> 00:26:10,000
\nExactly, right?
\nSo life could exist In the first<\/p>\n

409
\n00:26:10,400 –> 00:26:16,200
\ntiny sliver of a second before
\nanything formed God, balanced <\/p>\n

410
\n00:26:16,200 –> 00:26:21,100
\nevery single Force perfectly.
\nSo what came afterwards would <\/p>\n

411
\n00:26:21,100 –> 00:26:25,300
\nsupport life?
\nSlight changes in that caused <\/p>\n

412
\n00:26:25,400 –> 00:26:29,400
\nutter destruction and death.
\nLet me show you an example. <\/p>\n

413
\n00:26:30,700 –> 00:26:34,600
\nHere’s a very eminent
\ncosmologist astrophysicists from<\/p>\n

414
\n00:26:34,600 –> 00:26:39,500
\nfrom the UK.
\nHe’s not a Believer at all that.<\/p>\n

415
\n00:26:39,500 –> 00:26:42,200
\nHe wrote a very interesting book
\ncalled The Universe and six <\/p>\n

416
\n00:26:42,200 –> 00:26:45,700
\nnumbers where he picked six out
\nof those 14, he wrote a book <\/p>\n

417
\n00:26:45,700 –> 00:26:48,100
\nabout it.
\nAnd we won’t go through those <\/p>\n

418
\n00:26:48,100 –> 00:26:51,000
\nwhat they are.
\nSix numbers mean, but those six <\/p>\n

419
\n00:26:51,000 –> 00:26:56,000
\nnumbers are so fine tuned.
\nThat if that are slightly out. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:26:57,000 –> 00:27:01,300
\nWe wouldn’t exist.
\nNow let me pick up on one of <\/p>\n

421
\n00:27:01,300 –> 00:27:05,900
\nthem, it’s called Lambda the
\ncosmological constant, you know <\/p>\n

422
\n00:27:05,900 –> 00:27:08,100
\nthat simply means don’t worry
\nabout the details. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:27:08,100 –> 00:27:12,400
\nIt simply means that the
\nuniverse is expanding until the <\/p>\n

424
\n00:27:12,400 –> 00:27:15,400
\nearly part of the last century
\npeople used to think the <\/p>\n

425
\n00:27:15,400 –> 00:27:18,400
\nuniverse was just static.
\nIt was like a box, nothing <\/p>\n

426
\n00:27:18,400 –> 00:27:22,200
\nchanged.
\nThen Fred Hoyles found that the <\/p>\n

427
\n00:27:22,208 –> 00:27:25,300
\nUniverse was expanding and not
\nonly expanding but rapidly <\/p>\n

428
\n00:27:25,300 –> 00:27:29,600
\nexpanding and that became known
\nas the cosmological constant. <\/p>\n

429
\n00:27:30,400 –> 00:27:32,900
\nSo they started to try and
\nmeasure this cosmological <\/p>\n

430
\n00:27:32,900 –> 00:27:35,700
\nconstant.
\nNow, to give you an idea of how <\/p>\n

431
\n00:27:35,700 –> 00:27:41,100
\nprecise this has to be, if you
\nhave to take a dime and put the <\/p>\n

432
\n00:27:41,100 –> 00:27:46,400
\nnumbers 6 upwards on it, And
\nthen you had to put tendai in a <\/p>\n

433
\n00:27:46,400 –> 00:27:50,200
\nrow.
\nSo now you’ve got 10, dice, all <\/p>\n

434
\n00:27:50,200 –> 00:27:55,300
\nthe 6 up.
\nAnd you had to extend it to 150 <\/p>\n

435
\n00:27:55,400 –> 00:27:57,900
\ndied, or were they number 6 on
\nthe top? <\/p>\n

436
\n00:27:59,000 –> 00:28:03,200
\nThe chances of that happening
\nare so infinitesimally small, <\/p>\n

437
\n00:28:03,300 –> 00:28:06,000
\ncompared with all the
\npossibilities of that, the die <\/p>\n

438
\n00:28:06,000 –> 00:28:11,000
\nbeing positioned that, that’s
\nthe level of precision of the <\/p>\n

439
\n00:28:11,000 –> 00:28:14,700
\ncosmological constant.
\nAnd can I just show you what <\/p>\n

440
\n00:28:14,700 –> 00:28:17,600
\nwould happen if you changed one
\nof them? <\/p>\n

441
\n00:28:19,000 –> 00:28:22,300
\nDid you notice?
\nI just changed one died that <\/p>\n

442
\n00:28:22,300 –> 00:28:26,200
\nlittle one there to the number
\nfour, at the Top, If the <\/p>\n

443
\n00:28:26,200 –> 00:28:32,000
\ncosmological constant Changed by
\none flick of a die, There would <\/p>\n

444
\n00:28:32,000 –> 00:28:36,500
\nbe no life at all on Earth.
\nThere’d be no Universe with one <\/p>\n

445
\n00:28:36,500 –> 00:28:40,100
\nlittle change.
\nThat’s our sensitive things are.<\/p>\n

446
\n00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:44,500
\nIn fact, all of these parameters
\nare so perfectly and finely <\/p>\n

447
\n00:28:44,500 –> 00:28:48,400
\nbalanced that.
\nThe slightest tiniest error <\/p>\n

448
\n00:28:49,300 –> 00:28:53,600
\nwould result in there being no
\nlife at all anywhere in the <\/p>\n

449
\n00:28:53,600 –> 00:28:55,300
\nuniverse.
\nNothing. <\/p>\n

450
\n00:28:59,600 –> 00:29:02,400
\nSo what do you think modern
\nSciences is modern? <\/p>\n

451
\n00:29:02,400 –> 00:29:06,500
\nScience has responses to this
\nwonderful Fit for Life Universe <\/p>\n

452
\n00:29:07,100 –> 00:29:09,700
\nteeming with diversity and
\nBeauty like this. <\/p>\n

453
\n00:29:11,000 –> 00:29:15,100
\nI’m afraid that General response
\nby most scientists is actually <\/p>\n

454
\n00:29:15,100 –> 00:29:18,900
\nquite unscientific.
\nBecause remember what we’ve said<\/p>\n

455
\n00:29:18,900 –> 00:29:22,800
\nis, we’ve said that the
\nscripture and data points to <\/p>\n

456
\n00:29:22,800 –> 00:29:26,300
\nthere, being a beginning that
\nwas designed by God. <\/p>\n

457
\n00:29:27,900 –> 00:29:30,600
\nHow do they accommodate that?
\nBecause many of them don’t want <\/p>\n

458
\n00:29:30,600 –> 00:29:35,500
\nto believe in a god.
\nSo unfortunately what they do is<\/p>\n

459
\n00:29:35,500 –> 00:29:39,500
\nthey say they were not just one
\nUniverse the universe were in <\/p>\n

460
\n00:29:39,500 –> 00:29:45,900
\nbut many that there’s a sea of
\nlittle bubbles of new universes <\/p>\n

461
\n00:29:45,900 –> 00:29:48,900
\npopping into existence.
\nSome of them terminating <\/p>\n

462
\n00:29:48,900 –> 00:29:52,800
\nimmediately some just exploding
\nand we just happened to be in a <\/p>\n

463
\n00:29:52,808 –> 00:29:56,700
\nlucky one.
\nNow that’s the nonsense that’s <\/p>\n

464
\n00:29:56,700 –> 00:30:01,600
\ncurrently going around and you
\nknow you may say well they find <\/p>\n

465
\n00:30:01,600 –> 00:30:03,000
\nthey probably educated.
\nPeople. <\/p>\n

466
\n00:30:03,000 –> 00:30:04,400
\nThey know what they talking
\nabout. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:09,100
\nThe problem is this is outside
\nof space and time and cannot be <\/p>\n

468
\n00:30:09,100 –> 00:30:12,200
\nmeasured by science its
\nphilosophical. <\/p>\n

469
\n00:30:13,200 –> 00:30:17,700
\nYou can’t conduct any instrument
\nmeasurement off this ever now, <\/p>\n

470
\n00:30:17,700 –> 00:30:21,400
\nor in the future, it is a
\nphilosophical idea. <\/p>\n

471
\n00:30:22,400 –> 00:30:24,100
\nIn fact, all it does is just
\nkicks. <\/p>\n

472
\n00:30:24,100 –> 00:30:28,000
\nThe question just further down
\nthe road because who or what <\/p>\n

473
\n00:30:28,000 –> 00:30:32,300
\ncreated the Sea of evolving
\nuniverses. <\/p>\n

474
\n00:30:32,900 –> 00:30:37,000
\nAnd from what?
\nIt doesn’t answer the question. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:30:37,300 –> 00:30:42,200
\nIt just tries to duck the issue
\nof an initial cause being God <\/p>\n

476
\n00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:47,400
\nhimself.
\nFortunately though, there are <\/p>\n

477
\n00:30:47,400 –> 00:30:51,800
\nmany eminent scientists who
\nactually do believe in God and <\/p>\n

478
\n00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:55,600
\nare prepared to say.
\nSo, here’s one from Cape Town, <\/p>\n

479
\n00:30:55,600 –> 00:30:58,600
\nGeorge Ellis, a wonderful
\ncosmologists, mathematician, <\/p>\n

480
\n00:30:59,000 –> 00:31:01,600
\nwho’s written the book on
\ncosmology in the world. <\/p>\n

481
\n00:31:01,800 –> 00:31:04,100
\nThe book, The choosing all the
\nuniversities. <\/p>\n

482
\n00:31:04,500 –> 00:31:07,300
\nHe worked with Stephen Hawking,
\na remarkable. <\/p>\n

483
\n00:31:07,600 –> 00:31:11,900
\nAnd very sensitive humble person
\nwhen he was asked about this. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:31:11,900 –> 00:31:14,400
\nAnd you can, you can look at
\nthem on YouTube and watch his <\/p>\n

485
\n00:31:14,400 –> 00:31:19,400
\nlectures.
\nHe says the following There’s an<\/p>\n

486
\n00:31:19,408 –> 00:31:23,200
\namazing fine-tuning that occurs
\nin the laws that make this <\/p>\n

487
\n00:31:23,200 –> 00:31:28,600
\ncomplexity possible.
\nRealization of the complexity of<\/p>\n

488
\n00:31:28,600 –> 00:31:33,100
\nwhat is accomplished makes it
\nvery difficult for not to use <\/p>\n

489
\n00:31:33,100 –> 00:31:37,600
\nthe word miraculous because it
\nis miraculous. <\/p>\n

490
\n00:31:37,900 –> 00:31:41,600
\nIt’s miraculous that God did all
\nof these things to create life <\/p>\n

491
\n00:31:42,200 –> 00:31:45,100
\nand to create life.
\nSo abundantly in this universe <\/p>\n

492
\n00:31:47,000 –> 00:31:48,700
\nSo then we try and answer the
\nquestion. <\/p>\n

493
\n00:31:49,700 –> 00:31:54,500
\nSo can creation and modern
\nscience coexist, But I suppose <\/p>\n

494
\n00:31:54,500 –> 00:31:57,800
\nthe question, depends.
\nIt depends on whether you <\/p>\n

495
\n00:31:57,808 –> 00:32:01,500
\nprepared to accept that.
\nThere was an ultimate cause to <\/p>\n

496
\n00:32:01,500 –> 00:32:06,000
\nall of these things.
\nWhat we’ve seen very plainly <\/p>\n

497
\n00:32:06,000 –> 00:32:09,800
\ntoday is that God spoke in the
\nuniverse came into being as <\/p>\n

498
\n00:32:09,800 –> 00:32:12,400
\nGenesis tells us.
\nAnd the nice thing is it’s <\/p>\n

499
\n00:32:12,400 –> 00:32:16,500
\nactually borne out by data by
\nfacts by this strongly <\/p>\n

500
\n00:32:16,500 –> 00:32:21,700
\nlife-supporting universe, that
\nscience understands But God also<\/p>\n

501
\n00:32:21,700 –> 00:32:24,300
\nspoke and gave us his
\nscriptures. <\/p>\n

502
\n00:32:24,900 –> 00:32:28,200
\nThe same God is the originator
\nof the universe and the <\/p>\n

503
\n00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:31,300
\nscriptures.
\nSo the remarkable thing is <\/p>\n

504
\n00:32:31,600 –> 00:32:33,700
\nbetween them, there is no
\nconflict. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:32:34,600 –> 00:32:39,600
\nThey have the same Source, the
\nsame mind, the same intent, the <\/p>\n

506
\n00:32:39,600 –> 00:32:44,000
\nuniverse to support life
\nscripture to give life and more <\/p>\n

507
\n00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:47,200
\nabundantly.
\nAnd that all of those things are<\/p>\n

508
\n00:32:47,200 –> 00:32:52,700
\nunified in The God Who made it.
\nSo, The problem is exists <\/p>\n

509
\n00:32:52,700 –> 00:32:57,700
\nbetween the bottom levels, we
\nscientists and Bible students <\/p>\n

510
\n00:32:58,100 –> 00:33:02,000
\nimpose their own human
\ninterpretations on things and <\/p>\n

511
\n00:33:02,200 –> 00:33:04,700
\ncan act in very foolish ways
\nboth of them. <\/p>\n

512
\n00:33:05,400 –> 00:33:08,800
\nAnd that’s where the conflict
\noften exists but not between the<\/p>\n

513
\n00:33:08,800 –> 00:33:11,800
\nsource material, if you
\ngenuinely honest. <\/p>\n

514
\n00:33:13,000 –> 00:33:17,400
\nAnother way of looking at it.
\nThere’s God’s Wonderful World, <\/p>\n

515
\n00:33:17,500 –> 00:33:22,000
\nwhich is his General Revelation,
\nto all of us about what he did, <\/p>\n

516
\n00:33:22,300 –> 00:33:26,300
\nhe created this world of Wonder.
\nYou just wake up on a beautiful <\/p>\n

517
\n00:33:26,300 –> 00:33:28,700
\nnatal morning and you smell
\neverything. <\/p>\n

518
\n00:33:28,700 –> 00:33:31,600
\nYou see the birds and you hear
\nthe Hardy dollars and you look <\/p>\n

519
\n00:33:31,600 –> 00:33:35,600
\nat everything and you say, this
\nis truly a wonderful world and <\/p>\n

520
\n00:33:35,600 –> 00:33:38,500
\nyou can’t help but be awed by
\nwhat you see. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:33:39,600 –> 00:33:43,700
\nThat’s God’s natural world, his
\nGeneral Revelation, but then <\/p>\n

522
\n00:33:43,700 –> 00:33:46,900
\nthese God’s word, which is a
\nspecial Revelation. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:33:47,600 –> 00:33:50,200
\nYou can look at the world, all
\nyou like, but you don’t learn <\/p>\n

524
\n00:33:50,200 –> 00:33:53,800
\nmore about God.
\nYou need the revelation of the <\/p>\n

525
\n00:33:53,800 –> 00:33:57,800
\nword that tells you about him
\nthat says, this is the mind. <\/p>\n

526
\n00:33:57,800 –> 00:34:01,800
\nAnd the reason why I did these
\nthings, not just the how this is<\/p>\n

527
\n00:34:01,800 –> 00:34:07,600
\nthe why And the interesting
\nthing is both require reason <\/p>\n

528
\n00:34:07,600 –> 00:34:10,699
\nlogic to understanding.
\nYou can’t be a scientist without<\/p>\n

529
\n00:34:10,699 –> 00:34:13,400
\nreason and logic neither can you
\nbe a good Bible student? <\/p>\n

530
\n00:34:13,600 –> 00:34:17,699
\nYou could ask questions and
\nyou’ve got apply reason logic to<\/p>\n

531
\n00:34:17,699 –> 00:34:24,699
\nthe word of God to An
\ninteresting thing is we start <\/p>\n

532
\n00:34:24,699 –> 00:34:28,199
\ndrawing our thoughts to close
\nthen is that the principles of <\/p>\n

533
\n00:34:28,199 –> 00:34:33,199
\nthe natural, the how should
\nactually lead us to seek the <\/p>\n

534
\n00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:39,100
\nspiritual, which is the fine in
\nother words, the natural world <\/p>\n

535
\n00:34:39,100 –> 00:34:41,300
\nshould actually make us start
\nthinking. <\/p>\n

536
\n00:34:41,900 –> 00:34:44,000
\nThere’s got to be more to life
\nthan this. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:34:44,900 –> 00:34:48,100
\nThere’s gotta be more to life
\nthan the beautiful Berg or the <\/p>\n

538
\n00:34:48,100 –> 00:34:52,100
\ndolphin surfing often schlanger.
\nThere’s got to be more To even <\/p>\n

539
\n00:34:52,100 –> 00:34:55,199
\nhow eat as beautiful as all of
\nthat is in perfect. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:34:56,400 –> 00:35:00,900
\nWhy does it exist?
\nAnd that’s really what all of <\/p>\n

541
\n00:35:00,900 –> 00:35:04,000
\nthis purposefulness of the
\nuniverse is designed to do <\/p>\n

542
\n00:35:05,400 –> 00:35:07,200
\nperhaps another way of looking
\nat it. <\/p>\n

543
\n00:35:07,800 –> 00:35:11,500
\nIf you take the hierarchy of the
\nSciences at the bottom, you’ve <\/p>\n

544
\n00:35:11,500 –> 00:35:15,200
\ngot maths and logic which
\nteaches the laws of physics <\/p>\n

545
\n00:35:15,200 –> 00:35:19,200
\nwhich brings out chemistry which
\ngives rise to the biological <\/p>\n

546
\n00:35:19,200 –> 00:35:22,300
\nsciences.
\nAnd then on the one side that <\/p>\n

547
\n00:35:22,300 –> 00:35:26,400
\nthen expands into the
\ncosmological Sciences, the ones <\/p>\n

548
\n00:35:26,400 –> 00:35:30,500
\nrelating to the universe.
\nAnd on the other side, to the <\/p>\n

549
\n00:35:30,500 –> 00:35:33,600
\napplied sciences, the
\nengineering and the social <\/p>\n

550
\n00:35:33,600 –> 00:35:36,700
\nsciences etcetera.
\nBoth of them are based on these <\/p>\n

551
\n00:35:36,700 –> 00:35:40,800
\nfundamentals.
\nBut all of these are about the, <\/p>\n

552
\n00:35:40,800 –> 00:35:43,300
\nhow none of those talk about
\nthe. <\/p>\n

553
\n00:35:43,300 –> 00:35:50,300
\nWhy even psychology is not the
\nwhy You need something, imposed <\/p>\n

554
\n00:35:50,300 –> 00:35:53,900
\nfrom the top down to give
\npurpose, to all of science. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:35:54,500 –> 00:35:57,500
\nYou need Theology.
\nAnd you need ethics and both of <\/p>\n

556
\n00:35:57,508 –> 00:36:01,500
\nthose are imposed in top-down
\nform by God. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:36:02,300 –> 00:36:07,100
\nYou can’t have emergent morals
\nfrom a purely physical world. <\/p>\n

558
\n00:36:07,600 –> 00:36:11,700
\nIt has to be imposed top down
\nfor these these things to <\/p>\n

559
\n00:36:11,700 –> 00:36:14,500
\nactually match with the purpose
\nof the Thing That Grew From The <\/p>\n

560
\n00:36:14,500 –> 00:36:17,300
\nBottom up.
\nGod made the world possible to <\/p>\n

561
\n00:36:17,300 –> 00:36:20,700
\nsupport life.
\nNow, here’s the purpose from the<\/p>\n

562
\n00:36:20,700 –> 00:36:23,000
\ntop down.
\nIn other words, you could say <\/p>\n

563
\n00:36:23,000 –> 00:36:25,800
\nthose deal with the harm and
\nthose deal with the why. <\/p>\n

564
\n00:36:27,500 –> 00:36:30,600
\nAnd to understand things.
\nPerfectly Heaven and Earth. <\/p>\n

565
\n00:36:31,400 –> 00:36:35,100
\nYou need to understand the heart
\nand the why And that you have a <\/p>\n

566
\n00:36:35,108 –> 00:36:39,200
\nperfect understanding of what
\nGod is doing and the reason why.<\/p>\n

567
\n00:36:40,800 –> 00:36:45,000
\nNow, if you think this is just a
\ntheory, have a look at some of <\/p>\n

568
\n00:36:45,008 –> 00:36:48,600
\nthese wonderful scriptures which
\nactually see exactly what we <\/p>\n

569
\n00:36:48,600 –> 00:36:52,700
\nsaying.
\nPaul says in Romans 1, I’m <\/p>\n

570
\n00:36:52,700 –> 00:36:57,100
\nquoting from the, the Jewish
\nBible again, What is known about<\/p>\n

571
\n00:36:57,100 –> 00:37:00,900
\nGod is plain to them.
\nSince God has made it plain to <\/p>\n

572
\n00:37:00,900 –> 00:37:04,500
\nthem it’s playing for people to
\nsee that. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:37:04,500 –> 00:37:07,600
\nThere’s something special out
\nthere for ever since the <\/p>\n

574
\n00:37:07,600 –> 00:37:13,300
\ncreation of the universe.
\nGod’s invisible qualities re his<\/p>\n

575
\n00:37:13,300 –> 00:37:16,200
\npower.
\nAnd his divine nature have been <\/p>\n

576
\n00:37:16,200 –> 00:37:21,700
\nclearly seen how because they
\ncan be understood from what he <\/p>\n

577
\n00:37:21,700 –> 00:37:24,300
\nhas made.
\nIn other words, you know that <\/p>\n

578
\n00:37:24,300 –> 00:37:27,800
\nthere’s a great God when you
\nlook at the it wonderful <\/p>\n

579
\n00:37:27,800 –> 00:37:31,700
\nPerfection of life that God has
\nallowed to exist on this <\/p>\n

580
\n00:37:31,700 –> 00:37:34,100
\nbeautiful planet.
\nThey feel. <\/p>\n

581
\n00:37:34,100 –> 00:37:37,400
\nThey’ve got no.
\nExcuse God, says that people <\/p>\n

582
\n00:37:37,400 –> 00:37:42,100
\nshould just think this came out
\nof of nowhere and has got no <\/p>\n

583
\n00:37:42,100 –> 00:37:47,500
\nreason for existence.
\nYou said you without excuse you <\/p>\n

584
\n00:37:47,500 –> 00:37:50,100
\nshould be saying it’s got to be
\na higher reason for all of this.<\/p>\n

585
\n00:37:50,300 –> 00:37:55,700
\nThere has to be And here’s part
\nof another clue again from the <\/p>\n

586
\n00:37:55,700 –> 00:37:59,300
\nJewish Bible, quoting
\nEcclesiastes, 3 verses 11 to 12.<\/p>\n

587
\n00:37:59,900 –> 00:38:02,600
\nGod has made everything suited
\nto its time. <\/p>\n

588
\n00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:07,600
\nAlso, he is given human beings
\nand awareness of Eternity. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:38:08,000 –> 00:38:11,100
\nThat’s why people are all had.
\nWhen they see the mountains or <\/p>\n

590
\n00:38:11,100 –> 00:38:13,800
\nthe big vast.
\nSee, there’s this feeling of <\/p>\n

591
\n00:38:13,800 –> 00:38:18,500
\nEternity and how small they are.
\nBut God’s given him this <\/p>\n

592
\n00:38:18,500 –> 00:38:23,100
\nawareness of Eternity in such a
\nway that they can’t fully <\/p>\n

593
\n00:38:23,100 –> 00:38:27,800
\ncomprehend it from beginning to
\nend, the things that God does. <\/p>\n

594
\n00:38:28,300 –> 00:38:32,300
\nSo this is tantalizing hint.
\nThese more out there human <\/p>\n

595
\n00:38:32,300 –> 00:38:35,300
\nbeings.
\nYou’ve seen all this, but let me<\/p>\n

596
\n00:38:35,300 –> 00:38:39,400
\ntell you the real story.
\nThe why you tantalize by the <\/p>\n

597
\n00:38:39,400 –> 00:38:42,300
\nbeauty.
\nLet me tell you why all this <\/p>\n

598
\n00:38:42,300 –> 00:38:45,900
\nexists and in so doing the
\nultimate perfection. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:38:46,000 –> 00:38:49,000
\nIan of Genesis 1, verse 1 comes
\nfull circle. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:38:49,300 –> 00:38:53,500
\nIt’s a reuniting of all things
\nin heaven and in Earth if you <\/p>\n

601
\n00:38:53,500 –> 00:38:57,000
\nand I would step outside just
\nthe how to look at the wire of <\/p>\n

602
\n00:38:57,000 –> 00:39:01,700
\nGod’s creation and the missing
\nkey to all of this is the Lord <\/p>\n

603
\n00:39:01,700 –> 00:39:05,500
\nJesus Christ himself.
\nHave a look at this verse again <\/p>\n

604
\n00:39:05,500 –> 00:39:09,300
\nfrom the Jewish Bible Ephesians
\n1 verses 9 to 10. <\/p>\n

605
\n00:39:10,800 –> 00:39:13,700
\nRemember it was poorly
\nunderstood by human beings <\/p>\n

606
\n00:39:14,100 –> 00:39:16,400
\nbecause God has made known to
\nus. <\/p>\n

607
\n00:39:16,400 –> 00:39:20,400
\nNow, his secret plan, it was
\nKept Secret through all the ages<\/p>\n

608
\n00:39:21,400 –> 00:39:25,600
\nby which the, by his own.
\nWill he designed beforehand? <\/p>\n

609
\n00:39:25,600 –> 00:39:30,300
\nIt was all baked in in
\nconnection with the Messiah and <\/p>\n

610
\n00:39:30,308 –> 00:39:33,200
\nhe will put it into effect when
\nthe time is ripe. <\/p>\n

611
\n00:39:34,100 –> 00:39:37,000
\nAnd what is it?
\nIt’s his plan to place <\/p>\n

612
\n00:39:37,000 –> 00:39:42,800
\neverything in heaven and earth.
\nAdama sighs. <\/p>\n

613
\n00:39:42,800 –> 00:39:44,400
\nHey chip.
\nIsn’t that beautiful? <\/p>\n

614
\n00:39:45,300 –> 00:39:49,400
\nAll things are going to be
\nunified in Heaven and Earth the <\/p>\n

615
\n00:39:49,400 –> 00:39:53,900
\npurposeful Universe in which we
\nlive with the purpose of it <\/p>\n

616
\n00:39:54,600 –> 00:39:58,900
\nwhich is Heavenly all a unified
\nin Christ and God’s going to put<\/p>\n

617
\n00:39:58,900 –> 00:40:01,600
\nall of them under his rule.
\nHe’s the perfect one. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:40:01,600 –> 00:40:06,300
\nWho was the son of God, and the
\nson of man of heaven and of <\/p>\n

619
\n00:40:06,300 –> 00:40:09,800
\nEarth, he is the perfect key to
\nunlock all of this. <\/p>\n

620
\n00:40:10,200 –> 00:40:12,600
\nHe is the purpose.
\nOf Genesis 1 verse 1. <\/p>\n

621
\n00:40:15,500 –> 00:40:21,600
\nI said, cancel on Spaces from
\nColossians chapter 1, Jesus is <\/p>\n

622
\n00:40:21,600 –> 00:40:26,500
\nthe image of the invisible, God,
\nthe firstborn over all creation <\/p>\n

623
\n00:40:27,000 –> 00:40:30,400
\nand by firstborn, it means
\npreeminent, it doesn’t mean born<\/p>\n

624
\n00:40:30,400 –> 00:40:33,400
\nfirst.
\nIt means first born as in <\/p>\n

625
\n00:40:33,400 –> 00:40:35,700
\npreeminent, and we get to see
\nthat in this verse. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:40:36,400 –> 00:40:39,100
\nHe was preeminent over
\neverything. <\/p>\n

627
\n00:40:39,600 –> 00:40:42,900
\nHe was the purpose.
\nWhy all of this happened for by <\/p>\n

628
\n00:40:42,900 –> 00:40:44,800
\nhim?
\nAll things were created that are<\/p>\n

629
\n00:40:44,800 –> 00:40:48,300
\nin Heaven and Earth and that are
\nin the earth, visible and <\/p>\n

630
\n00:40:48,300 –> 00:40:52,100
\ninvisible, whether Thrones or
\nMinions or principalities or <\/p>\n

631
\n00:40:52,100 –> 00:40:55,200
\nPowers.
\nAll things were created through <\/p>\n

632
\n00:40:55,200 –> 00:41:00,000
\nhim and for him, in other words,
\nhe’s the father of a new <\/p>\n

633
\n00:41:00,000 –> 00:41:03,100
\nspiritual creation.
\nHe is the one who’s brought to <\/p>\n

634
\n00:41:03,100 –> 00:41:05,900
\nbeing a new creation in him as
\nyou. <\/p>\n

635
\n00:41:05,900 –> 00:41:08,300
\nAnd I are his workmanship in
\nChrist. <\/p>\n

636
\n00:41:09,600 –> 00:41:14,700
\nAnd he is before, all things and
\nin him all things consist, he’s <\/p>\n

637
\n00:41:14,700 –> 00:41:18,400
\nthe head of the body, the church
\nor the Ephesian, who is the <\/p>\n

638
\n00:41:18,400 –> 00:41:21,900
\nbeginning, the firstborn from
\nthe dead that in all things? <\/p>\n

639
\n00:41:21,900 –> 00:41:25,000
\nHe may have the preeminence.
\nYou see wasn’t dummies this <\/p>\n

640
\n00:41:25,000 –> 00:41:28,900
\nbefore he he was born.
\nHe’s got preeminence before he <\/p>\n

641
\n00:41:28,900 –> 00:41:33,600
\neven existed.
\nFor peace, the father that’s in <\/p>\n

642
\n00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:37,700
\nhim, all the fullness, should
\ndwell the completeness and by <\/p>\n

643
\n00:41:37,700 –> 00:41:42,600
\nhim to reconcile all things to
\nhimself by him, whether things <\/p>\n

644
\n00:41:42,600 –> 00:41:48,200
\non earth or things in heaven.
\nHaving made peace through the <\/p>\n

645
\n00:41:48,200 –> 00:41:52,700
\nblood of his cross, the blood of
\nthe cross on the cross. <\/p>\n

646
\n00:41:52,700 –> 00:41:56,200
\nThat was shed for you.
\nAnd for me reunite, suspect to <\/p>\n

647
\n00:41:56,200 –> 00:42:01,300
\nheaven, we were separated by the
\nfoolishness of mankind to be <\/p>\n

648
\n00:42:01,300 –> 00:42:03,800
\nearth-born and earthy to be
\nlimited. <\/p>\n

649
\n00:42:03,800 –> 00:42:09,000
\nJust to this beautiful creation
\nbut not to send higher Christ <\/p>\n

650
\n00:42:09,000 –> 00:42:10,800
\nhas come to reunite us with
\nHeaven. <\/p>\n

651
\n00:42:11,500 –> 00:42:14,200
\nNot take us to Heaven.
\nReunite us with the Heavenly <\/p>\n

652
\n00:42:14,200 –> 00:42:16,800
\nprinciples and make us new
\ncreatures in. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:42:17,000 –> 00:42:19,800
\nHim, it’s all done through the
\nblood of Christ. <\/p>\n

654
\n00:42:20,900 –> 00:42:23,300
\nIt’s the purpose of over
\nUniverse. <\/p>\n

655
\n00:42:24,000 –> 00:42:27,400
\nThe purpose that God did those
\nthings 13.8, billion years ago. <\/p>\n

656
\n00:42:27,700 –> 00:42:31,700
\nAll the laws of physics were for
\nthis one purpose of binding <\/p>\n

657
\n00:42:31,700 –> 00:42:34,800
\nthings in Heaven and Earth under
\nthe Lord, Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

658
\n00:42:35,600 –> 00:42:38,300
\nAnd you and I here to be his
\nworkmanship. <\/p>\n

659
\n00:42:39,200 –> 00:42:43,600
\nIt is profound unbelievably
\nprofound that God could do all <\/p>\n

660
\n00:42:43,600 –> 00:42:47,900
\nof this to bring many sons to
\nglory and that’s why he’s done <\/p>\n

661
\n00:42:47,900 –> 00:42:52,300
\nit.
\nSo if God’s word could create <\/p>\n

662
\n00:42:52,300 –> 00:42:54,900
\nthe heavens and the Earth, the
\nquestion you and I could ask if <\/p>\n

663
\n00:42:54,900 –> 00:42:58,100
\nourselves is how much is it,
\nchanging you? <\/p>\n

664
\n00:42:58,100 –> 00:43:02,700
\nAnd I to be part of God’s new
\nspiritual Creation in Jesus, he <\/p>\n

665
\n00:43:02,700 –> 00:43:08,000
\ncould just speak a word and the
\nuniverse came to be He’s given <\/p>\n

666
\n00:43:08,000 –> 00:43:13,300
\nus his word that little book on
\nour laps that can change us as <\/p>\n

667
\n00:43:13,300 –> 00:43:15,500
\nmuch as the universe was
\nchanged. <\/p>\n

668
\n00:43:16,000 –> 00:43:20,000
\nIf we just let it That’s got to
\nbe the thing that we put our <\/p>\n

669
\n00:43:20,000 –> 00:43:22,500
\neffort into my dear friends,
\nmore than anything else. <\/p>\n

670
\n00:43:23,000 –> 00:43:26,600
\nIt’s got the same power of
\nCreation in US is a creation of <\/p>\n

671
\n00:43:26,600 –> 00:43:33,300
\nall this beautiful universe.
\nMoscow station from Revelation, <\/p>\n

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\nright?
\nAt the end of the book from <\/p>\n

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\n00:43:35,900 –> 00:43:40,000
\nGenesis, to Revelation the same
\nprinciple applies behold says, <\/p>\n

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\nJesus, I am coming quickly, my
\nreward is with me to give <\/p>\n

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\neveryone according to his work.
\nI am the Alpha and the Omega, <\/p>\n

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\nthe beginning, and the end.
\nThe first, and the last Blessed <\/p>\n

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\nare those who do his
\nCommandments. <\/p>\n

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\nYou see rules are important.
\nThe rules created life in this <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse, but they also apply to
\nyou and me God’s Commandments to<\/p>\n

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\ncreate new life in us and
\nChrist. <\/p>\n

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\nThat they may have the right to
\nthe Tree of Life. <\/p>\n

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\nThe very thing that was
\nseparated from man and Genesis <\/p>\n

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\nis going to be given to us to
\nparticipate in life and have it <\/p>\n

684
\n00:44:15,600 –> 00:44:18,800
\nmore abundantly.
\nThis is a wonderful place in my <\/p>\n

685
\n00:44:18,800 –> 00:44:21,400
\ndear friends, while it is still
\ncalled today. <\/p>\n

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\n00:44:21,700 –> 00:44:26,600
\nLet us actually make the effort
\nto follow him and to become a <\/p>\n

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\nnew creation in Christ.
\nThank you. <\/p>\n

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