{"id":386,"date":"2019-04-02T05:38:24","date_gmt":"2019-04-02T05:38:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/026-john-pople-job-who-is-satan\/"},"modified":"2026-08-09T01:37:42","modified_gmt":"2026-08-09T01:37:42","slug":"026-john-pople-job-who-is-satan","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/026-john-pople-job-who-is-satan\/","title":{"rendered":"026: John Pople – Job: Who is Satan?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Today we are listening to a talk by Bro. John Pople from his series on Job on the subject “Who is Satan?”.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\nOur talk is taken from a series
\nthat was given by her brother <\/p>\n

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\nJohn poeple on a series that he
\ngave about Job. <\/p>\n

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\nThe specific classes class to
\nfrom that Series, where he looks<\/p>\n

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\ninto the character of Satan in
\nthe story of job and who he <\/p>\n

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\nbelieves that Satan represents,
\nI won’t spoil who it is because <\/p>\n

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\nit’s kind of the point of his of
\nhis talk he gets to about <\/p>\n

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\nhalfway through and then
\nproceeds to lay out his case, as<\/p>\n

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\nhe goes on.
\nIf you haven’t heard brother <\/p>\n

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\nJohn before he has a very strong
\nspeaking style, very thorough <\/p>\n

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\nBible study but uses it to draw
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\nA lot of his subjects, he
\nsometimes can find interesting <\/p>\n

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\nnew interpretations on classes
\nand topics. <\/p>\n

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\nHe pays really close attention
\nto details that can help draw <\/p>\n

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\ninteresting things out.
\nAnd and this classroom is series<\/p>\n

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\non job is no different.
\nHe looks really closely at the <\/p>\n

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\nfirst couple chapters, and it’s
\na really interesting one to look<\/p>\n

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\nat He also leaves a completely
\nup to the interpretation of us <\/p>\n

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\nas The Listener, whether to take
\nwhat he’s figured out or <\/p>\n

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\ndiscovered and make our own
\nconclusion on it. <\/p>\n

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\nSo it’s a really good example of
\na classic jump, opal style <\/p>\n

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\nclass.
\nI really enjoyed it. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a really good introduction
\nlaying out the argument to who <\/p>\n

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\nthe character of Satan is in
\nthis story and how you can apply<\/p>\n

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\nAlso on a really exciting note <\/p>\n

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\nit over now to our brother John
\npoeple for his class on the <\/p>\n

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\nstory of job title, the subject,
\nwho is Satan good morning. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s going to be important, to
\nfigure out who Satan is <\/p>\n

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\nobviously, hopefully that’s
\nobvious. <\/p>\n

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\nBecause even though his name or
\nthe name, Satan only shows up in<\/p>\n

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\nthe first two chapters, even if
\nthat’s his only appearance in <\/p>\n

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\nthe story, and I don’t believe
\nthat it is. <\/p>\n

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\nBut even if it were, you can see
\nthat he’s clearly a key <\/p>\n

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\ncharacter to affecting the
\nentire understanding of the <\/p>\n

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\nbook.
\nAnd what’s happening? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s someone god barters with
\napparently it’s someone who <\/p>\n

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\nclearly affects the outcome and
\nthe history and the effect of <\/p>\n

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\njob.
\nSo we need to know Who this <\/p>\n

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\nperson is.
\nAnd if you look into the <\/p>\n

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\nliterature, the extent of
\nChristian literature, you’ll <\/p>\n

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\nfind just about every possible.
\nAnswer is is supported by <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone or other?
\nIs it God? <\/p>\n

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\nIs it an angel?
\nIs it? <\/p>\n

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\nA supernatural devil?
\nIf it is an angel is, an <\/p>\n

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\nobedient Angel.
\nIs it a disobedient Angel? <\/p>\n

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\nSome of these suggestions don’t
\nreally figure in our community <\/p>\n

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\nbut they’re all there in the
\nliterature. <\/p>\n

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\nIs it eliphaz bildad?
\nAnd zophar is it a light Hue <\/p>\n

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\nthat strange enigmatic fourth
\ncharacter? <\/p>\n

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\nIs it?
\nOf himself. <\/p>\n

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\nIs it something else?
\nAnd so, we’re going to spend <\/p>\n

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\nsome time to live.
\nMade it perfectly clear. <\/p>\n

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\nThat I think it’s the heart of
\nman that most obviously evidence<\/p>\n

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\nis itself in the three friends.
\nI think it’s worth worthwhile <\/p>\n

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\nfor me to at least show you the
\nevidence by which I reached that<\/p>\n

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\ndecision.
\nThen you can be enabled to make <\/p>\n

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\nyour own decision about whether
\nthat’s a good conclusion or <\/p>\n

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\nwhether you think I’ve followed
\na fault in logic or in reasoning<\/p>\n

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\nand you can come to a different
\nanswer. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I guess generally the more
\nOne suggestions that we find in <\/p>\n

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\nour own Community is that Satan
\nis either and obedient angel of <\/p>\n

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\nGod performing God’s will or
\nelse he is some form of human <\/p>\n

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\neither are like you job or the
\nthree friends, in fact, just for<\/p>\n

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\ninterest sake, if you didn’t
\ndodge me who in the room, which <\/p>\n

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\nis would suppose, most naturally
\nthat Satan is probably an angel <\/p>\n

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\nof the Lord.
\nYeah, good. <\/p>\n

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\nI thought that opinion would be
\nthere and who would suppose that<\/p>\n

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\nSatan might be the three
\nfriends? <\/p>\n

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\nGot an equal number and who
\nwould suppose that Satan would <\/p>\n

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\nbe a like you?
\nUh-huh, and or job? <\/p>\n

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\nInteresting, so right away,
\nwe’ve got a diversity of opinion<\/p>\n

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\nin this room and that’s good
\nnews because it means I’m not <\/p>\n

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\nwasting your time.
\nYou you may still come to that <\/p>\n

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\nconclusion at the end anyway,
\nbut it’s good that we can have <\/p>\n

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\nthese different opinions and
\nmeet together and actually <\/p>\n

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\nconsider.
\nSo let me show you the evidence.<\/p>\n

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\nAll the evidence that I try to
\nconsider to consider the various<\/p>\n

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\noptions in the conclusion at
\nwhich I arrived. <\/p>\n

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\nFirst of all, let’s start off in
\na reasonably scientific manner. <\/p>\n

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\nWe won’t actually start off with
\na preconceived agenda will just <\/p>\n

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\nassemble the Acts as they appear
\nin the text. <\/p>\n

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\nWe don’t get a lot of
\ninformation about Satan. <\/p>\n

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\nWe have, I think only really for
\nfacts to notice objectively, <\/p>\n

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\nnumber one, he presents himself
\nbefore the Lord, that’s the <\/p>\n

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\nscriptural.
\nPhrase that’s used the sons of <\/p>\n

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\nGod came to present themselves
\nbefore the Lord. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Satan also came among them.
\nIt’s our first fact, a second <\/p>\n

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\nfact, he comes from the Earth.
\nThe Lord said, where have you <\/p>\n

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\ncome from?
\nSatan answered from roaming <\/p>\n

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\nthrough the Earth and going back
\nand forth in it, okay? <\/p>\n

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\nThird fact, he knows who job is.
\nIt’s a pretty small fact but we <\/p>\n

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\nmay as well throw it in there,
\nwe have so little to work with <\/p>\n

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\nwe can’t afford to be picky here
\njob’s flocks and herds are <\/p>\n

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\nspread throughout the lands of
\nSatan. <\/p>\n

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\nSo he’s aware of who job is and
\nfourthly. <\/p>\n

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\nHe is empowered by God, God,
\ngrants him Authority. <\/p>\n

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\nThe Lord said to Satan very
\nwell. <\/p>\n

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\nThen everything Jobe has is in
\nyour hands. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd somehow from these, this
\nsparsity of facts, we’re going <\/p>\n

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\nto have to assemble some sort of
\nopinion because it is going to <\/p>\n

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\nbe critical to our understanding
\nof the Book of Job to know who <\/p>\n

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\nSatan is.
\nLet’s look at that first fact <\/p>\n

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\npresented before the Lord.
\nLuckily is a scriptural phrase, <\/p>\n

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\na repeating phrase.
\nAnd when we look up every single<\/p>\n

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\nuse, That phrase we find that is
\na phrase which is invariably <\/p>\n

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\nrefers to human beings
\ninvariably refers to mankind, <\/p>\n

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\nI’ll show you just a couple of
\nexamples. <\/p>\n

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\nThe Lord said to Moses human
\nman, be ready in the morning and<\/p>\n

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\nthen come up on Mount Sinai,
\npresent yourself to me, they’re <\/p>\n

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\non the top of the mountain now.
\nRegardless of what we know about<\/p>\n

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\nwhether or not you can appear in
\nthe presence of God in this <\/p>\n

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\nsense, at least whatever is
\nmeant by this man can Appear <\/p>\n

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\npresented before the Lord in
\nthis form. <\/p>\n

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\nHere’s another example from The
\nBook of Leviticus the priest who<\/p>\n

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\npronounces the leper or the
\nformer leper. <\/p>\n

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\nI should say, clean shall
\npresent both the one to be <\/p>\n

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\ncleansed and his offerings
\nbefore the Lord. <\/p>\n

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\nSo this man, this human man who
\nhas come to the priest is <\/p>\n

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\npresented.
\nBefore the Lord, those are two <\/p>\n

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\nOld Testament references, but
\nthat’s not to say that this this<\/p>\n

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\nphrase doesn’t appear also in
\nthe New Testament. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd in Who can think of a new
\ntestament phrase? <\/p>\n

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\nThis phrase appearing.
\nIt actually we wrote an entire <\/p>\n

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\nhim about it in our hymn books.
\nNot that that’s desperately <\/p>\n

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\nimportant.
\nAnyone familiar with anyone, <\/p>\n

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\nThat little sort of doxology or
\nbeatitude, that appears at the <\/p>\n

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\nend of Jude.
\nNow unto him, this is about <\/p>\n

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\nJesus.
\nNow unto him that is able to <\/p>\n

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\nkeep you from falling and to
\npresent you faultless before the<\/p>\n

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\npresence of his glory with
\nexceeding Joy, remember that? <\/p>\n

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\nThat him very nice him so
\nwhether from the Old Testament <\/p>\n

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\nor the new the phrase, if you
\nare presented before the Lord, <\/p>\n

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\nor you have come to present
\nyourself before. <\/p>\n

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\nLord.
\nIt is a characteristic of human <\/p>\n

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\nmen and I have not chosen these
\nin a biased or skewed form, <\/p>\n

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\nignoring the ones where angels
\nare presented before the Lord, I<\/p>\n

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\nhave chosen these entirely
\nhonestly as a representation of <\/p>\n

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\nthe way that they are the
\nphrases used by contrast the <\/p>\n

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\nAngels it is said in this is
\nMatthew chapter 18, which was <\/p>\n

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\nonly yesterday’s reading was it
\nnot the angels, in heaven, <\/p>\n

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\nalways see the face of my Father
\nin Heaven. <\/p>\n

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\nThey are said in some sense or
\nanother, to always Be in the <\/p>\n

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\npresence of the almighty,
\nfather, whereas the men go in <\/p>\n

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\nand out of the presence of God.
\nSo from that information alone, <\/p>\n

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\nwe would naturally conclude that
\nSatan was a human man or men, <\/p>\n

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\nbut that’s not the only
\ninformation we have to work <\/p>\n

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\nwith.
\nSo let’s start over from an <\/p>\n

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\nentirely different perspective.
\nFirst thing we should notice is <\/p>\n

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\nthat Satan is a generic term.
\nI’m sure, you know this but it’s<\/p>\n

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\nworth establishing this.
\nThat is to say there is no moral<\/p>\n

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\npejorative associated with the
\nname. <\/p>\n

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\nSatan, that is to say in proper
\nEnglish so that I make sense. <\/p>\n

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\nSatan doesn’t mean that you’re a
\nbad person, believe it or not. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is a very innocent word.
\nIt’s simply means opponent, if <\/p>\n

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\nyou and I were to sit down and
\nplay chess together, I would be <\/p>\n

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\nyour Satan.
\nAnd you would be my satyam. <\/p>\n

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\nSo there is no moral perogative
\nassociated with that word <\/p>\n

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\nnecessarily.
\nIt’s simply means opponent and <\/p>\n

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\ntherefore we can find almighty
\nGod, himself, Angels, or humans <\/p>\n

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\ncan all wear this title in very
\ndifferent circumstances. <\/p>\n

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\nOf course, Satan rose up against
\nIsrael and incited David to take<\/p>\n

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\na census.
\nAnd by comparing that with the <\/p>\n

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\nparallel passage, we realize
\nthat that is actually God, who <\/p>\n

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\nis acting in opposition?
\nInto Israel. <\/p>\n

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\nAt that time, simply their
\nopponents, likewise the angel of<\/p>\n

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\nthe Lord, took his stand in the
\nway as balaam’s Satan, and <\/p>\n

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\nBalaam was riding on the S.
\nHe and his two servants with <\/p>\n

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\nhim.
\nSo there’s where an obedient <\/p>\n

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\nangel of God is indeed wearing
\nthe name of Satan. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd likewise humans are very
\nwell-known case from the New <\/p>\n

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\nTestament.
\nJesus turned and said to Peter <\/p>\n

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\nget behind me.
\nSatan. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, so it could be, it could
\nbe God, it could be Angels. <\/p>\n

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\nIt could be humans.
\nThis term alone does not allow <\/p>\n

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\nus to discriminate between them
\nso we don’t need to come to the <\/p>\n

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\nconclusion.
\nIt’s humans from this term. <\/p>\n

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\nFurthermore we know that God is
\nthe one who causes super natural<\/p>\n

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\nCalamity and we also know that
\nspecifically within the case of <\/p>\n

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\nthe Book of Job, it was God who
\ndid everything? <\/p>\n

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\nNot anybody else?
\nIt makes this perfectly clear in<\/p>\n

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\na couple of places, I’ve chosen
\njust one from the end of the <\/p>\n

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\nbook.
\nJobs friends, comforted and <\/p>\n

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\nconsoled job, over all the
\ntrouble, the Lord had brought <\/p>\n

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\nupon him, so we’re not left in
\nambiguity. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was God who acted to afflict
\njob. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd there’s another passage a
\nlot earlier in the book, which <\/p>\n

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\nsubstantiates, that, and I’m out
\nof range of this little guy. <\/p>\n

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\nIn fact, it’s a principle.
\nWe know throughout scripture <\/p>\n

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\nfrom Isaiah 45.
\nI am the lord, and there is none<\/p>\n

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\nelse.
\nI form the light and create <\/p>\n

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\nDarkness.
\nI make peace and create evil. <\/p>\n

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\nI the Lord do all these things.
\nSo this is entirely in harmony <\/p>\n

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\nwith the broader picture of
\nscripture that it is God who <\/p>\n

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\naffected Afflicted.
\nJoe and when God acts, he <\/p>\n

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\nfrequently acts through his
\nangels. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd this is true when God sends
\nacts of Salvation or equally <\/p>\n

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\ntrue when he performs acts of
\nDestruction in Acts of <\/p>\n

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\nSalvation.
\nDaniel records my God sent his <\/p>\n

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\nAngel and he shut the mouths of
\nthe Lions. <\/p>\n

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\nThey have not hurt me.
\nBut contrariwise in Psalm 78, <\/p>\n

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\nGod Unleashed against them his
\nhot anger, his Roth indignation <\/p>\n

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\nand hostility a band of
\ndestroying Angels so whether God<\/p>\n

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\nis making peace or creating
\nCalamity he does. <\/p>\n

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\nSo most frequently in biblical
\nlanguage through his angels and <\/p>\n

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\nso our second conclusion is that
\nSatan was an angel that’s <\/p>\n

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\nunfortunate because that’s a
\ncontradiction of our first <\/p>\n

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\nconclusion.
\nWhat I’m trying to show from <\/p>\n

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\nthat is merely by taking
\ndifferent parts of the available<\/p>\n

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\nevidence in their most natural
\ninterpretation. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is very likely.
\nIt is very possible to come to <\/p>\n

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\ncompletely contrasting
\nconclusions. <\/p>\n

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\nSo it’s very reasonable.
\nThat we have a diversity of <\/p>\n

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\nopinion our community, just
\nbecause the data itself does not<\/p>\n

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\nnaturally Converge on a single
\nanswer. <\/p>\n

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\nNevertheless, if our studies in
\nthe Book of Job are going to <\/p>\n

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\nmove forward, we do need to find
\nsome sort of resolution between <\/p>\n

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\nthese apparently or these
\nevidently contradictory <\/p>\n

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\nopinions.
\nAnd to do that, we will need to <\/p>\n

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\nbring further information to
\nbear. <\/p>\n

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\nSo let’s take the trouble to do
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nFirst thing to notice, it’s
\nGod’s Satan. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s God’s opponent Satan in the
\nBook of Job is not the opponent <\/p>\n

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\nof job, read the text.
\nIt’s the opponent of God. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can see that in chapter one.
\nSo in this case, Satan must <\/p>\n

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\nnecessarily be Wicked.
\nIt is not job. <\/p>\n

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\nWho is opposed?
\nEven though it is Joe, who is <\/p>\n

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\nAfflicted?
\nGod makes a statement. <\/p>\n

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\nHave you considered my servant
\njob? <\/p>\n

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\nThere is none like him.
\nHe is blameless. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd upright, a man who fears God
\nand shuns evil, and someone or <\/p>\n

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\nsomething says no sir, no sir,
\nyou God are wrong. <\/p>\n

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\nYou have misunderstood that job
\nis only good or appears good by <\/p>\n

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\nreason of the blessings that he
\nenjoys. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s God who’s being opposed.
\nSo in this case, it must be a <\/p>\n

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\nwicked thing.
\nThat is, that is forming Satan. <\/p>\n

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\nSo already, I fear that I have
\nto conclude and I don’t want to <\/p>\n

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\ntry and impose my my wheels
\naggressively on you, but I feel <\/p>\n

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\nthat I must conclude.
\nEven at this stage, we cannot be<\/p>\n

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\ntalking about Out of divine
\nAngel. <\/p>\n

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\nWe cannot be calling about a
\nDivine angel that would <\/p>\n

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\ncontradict the Living.
\nLord. <\/p>\n

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\nGod, here’s another thought to
\nconsider the Lord said to Satan,<\/p>\n

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\nwhere have you come from?
\nAlways interesting to listen to <\/p>\n

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\nGod, asking questions in
\nscripture? <\/p>\n

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\nWhy is it peculiar that God is
\nasking questions in scripture or<\/p>\n

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\nanywhere?
\nBecause he knows. <\/p>\n

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\nSo he knows the answer.
\nSo when God asks a question, <\/p>\n

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\nhe’s not soliciting, an answer
\nfor himself. <\/p>\n

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\nAt least, he’s doing one of two
\nthings and possibly both. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s either saying, is a
\nteacher, might in front of his <\/p>\n

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\nstudents.
\nYou know, why don’t you tell the<\/p>\n

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\nclass, why you’ve shown up late?
\nSo it was wonderful when someone<\/p>\n

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\nwalks in just at that point.
\nI always enjoy that bit but it <\/p>\n

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\nwas not to be whatever, right?
\nHe’s getting someone to confess <\/p>\n

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\nor to make an explanation.
\nFor the rest of us to learn from<\/p>\n

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\nor he’s making a statement, an
\nactual pronouncement. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd there is a sense of
\npronouncement in the idea of <\/p>\n

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\nwhere have you come from?
\nThe emphasis that God is making <\/p>\n

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\nits a form of statement?
\nTwo says, you’re not with me, <\/p>\n

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\nright?
\nThink about it. <\/p>\n

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\nIf I rode up here in your car,
\nfor those of you who drove with <\/p>\n

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\nyou, I wouldn’t, when I got
\nhere, say well, where did you <\/p>\n

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\ncome from?
\nBecause you’d think your <\/p>\n

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\nshort-term memory, Worse than I
\nhad supposed, we travelled <\/p>\n

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\ntogether but if I didn’t travel
\nwith you, I might say. <\/p>\n

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\nWhere did you come from?
\nYou might suddenly appear and <\/p>\n

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\nI’m not sure.
\nAnd what I’m emphasizing is you <\/p>\n

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\nand I were not in company,
\nyou’ve come from a different <\/p>\n

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\nplace.
\nThink about how you do that <\/p>\n

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\nmetaphorically with ideas,
\nsomeone suggests a really crazy <\/p>\n

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\nidea and the metaphor you uses,
\nsay where did that come from? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what you’re saying, is my
\nthoughts and my ideas and my <\/p>\n

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\nfeelings can all be described
\nhere and then in left field, <\/p>\n

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\nhere’s that crazy idea from you.
\nWhere did that come from? <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a phrase we come on.
\nUse and so the Lord is making <\/p>\n

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\nthe same emphasis.
\nWhere did you come from? <\/p>\n

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\nWhat’s that about?
\nThat’s not part of my thinking. <\/p>\n

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\nNotice how that happened in
\nEden, the Lord God Called to <\/p>\n

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\nAdam, where are you?
\nAdam The answer physically is <\/p>\n

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\n180 yards to the Northeast
\nhiding behind a bush. <\/p>\n

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\nGod knows that bit.
\nWhat he’s saying to Adam is has <\/p>\n

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\nthere been a divorce in our
\ncompany? <\/p>\n

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\nThere has hasn’t there, that’s
\nwhat God is pronouncing and <\/p>\n

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\nbeginning to teach.
\nAnd the same thing is coming <\/p>\n

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\nhere.
\nThe Lord said to Satan, where <\/p>\n

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\nhave you come from you?
\nAnd not with me and the answer <\/p>\n

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\nfrom roaming through the Earth
\nand going back and forth in it? <\/p>\n

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\nI’m from down.
\nHere, says Satan. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd finally, a very convincing
\npassage Angels do not slander. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is absolutely explicit.
\nThe reference doesn’t appear on <\/p>\n

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\nthe page, but it says 2.
\nPeter 2 verse 11 down there and <\/p>\n

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\nI’ll read it out Angels, do not
\nbring slanderous accusations <\/p>\n

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\nagainst righteous men.
\nIn the presence of the Lord. <\/p>\n

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\nThere can be no more useful
\nverse in the entire Bible for <\/p>\n

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\ntrying to make a decision in
\nthis particular matter. <\/p>\n

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\nAngels, do not bring slanderous
\naccusations and Joe has been <\/p>\n

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\nslandered.
\nYou notice that Satan has said, <\/p>\n

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\nyou think that’s a good guy
\nthat’s not a good guy. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a very rich guy.
\nThat’s why he likes you. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s why he turns up in your
\nchurch and sings hymns to you <\/p>\n

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\nbecause he’s got a lot of nice
\nstuff. <\/p>\n

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\nYou take that stuff away, you’ll
\nsee his real character. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a slander.
\nAngels, do not bring slanderous <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:26,700 –> 00:19:29,200
\naccusations against righteous
\nmen in the presence of the Lord <\/p>\n

333
\n00:19:29,900 –> 00:19:32,100
\nperiod.
\nAnd I think that’s a very <\/p>\n

334
\n00:19:32,100 –> 00:19:35,900
\ndefinitive verse in, helping us
\ninterpret what’s going on in the<\/p>\n

335
\n00:19:35,900 –> 00:19:39,600
\nBook of Job.
\nFurthermore, we could have taken<\/p>\n

336
\n00:19:39,600 –> 00:19:42,600
\na rather that’s are some
\nnecessary verses and details. <\/p>\n

337
\n00:19:42,800 –> 00:19:48,100
\nWe could have taken A more big
\npicture approach. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:19:48,500 –> 00:19:50,000
\nIt’s always nice to do this in
\nscripture. <\/p>\n

339
\n00:19:50,100 –> 00:19:53,000
\nSee if there’s a template, see
\nif there’s a kind of a <\/p>\n

340
\n00:19:53,000 –> 00:19:57,100
\ncharacteristic pattern of
\ninteraction or whatever, some <\/p>\n

341
\n00:19:57,100 –> 00:20:01,200
\nsort of characteristic pattern
\nthat pervade scripture that you <\/p>\n

342
\n00:20:01,200 –> 00:20:03,500
\ncan grab hold off because you
\nnow know what the template looks<\/p>\n

343
\n00:20:03,500 –> 00:20:05,000
\nlike.
\nAnd then hold it over the <\/p>\n

344
\n00:20:05,000 –> 00:20:07,100
\nBisset, the the difficult bit of
\nscripture that you’re trying to <\/p>\n

345
\n00:20:07,108 –> 00:20:11,600
\nfigure out and see if that helps
\nyou slot things into place where<\/p>\n

346
\n00:20:11,600 –> 00:20:15,000
\nthey should be and there is in
\nscripture a character. <\/p>\n

347
\n00:20:15,200 –> 00:20:18,500
\nThe interaction between God and
\nSatan you might say, well just <\/p>\n

348
\n00:20:18,500 –> 00:20:21,400
\nGod destroys his enemies.
\nWell, that’s that’s true. <\/p>\n

349
\n00:20:21,500 –> 00:20:23,200
\nIt’s a little more complex than
\nthat. <\/p>\n

350
\n00:20:23,200 –> 00:20:26,100
\nNot much more complex.
\nIt is a very simple template but<\/p>\n

351
\n00:20:26,100 –> 00:20:29,200
\nit has a few twists to it which
\ngive it a little character by <\/p>\n

352
\n00:20:29,200 –> 00:20:32,500
\nwhich we can come to recognize
\nother interactions in the same <\/p>\n

353
\n00:20:32,500 –> 00:20:34,300
\nway.
\nIt has three parts to it. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:20:34,800 –> 00:20:38,100
\nNumber one, God pronounces a
\ntruth. <\/p>\n

355
\n00:20:40,200 –> 00:20:44,600
\nNumber two, Satan opposes that
\ntruth and given that this means <\/p>\n

356
\n00:20:44,600 –> 00:20:49,700
\nopponent Satan by definition
\nopposes the truth that God has <\/p>\n

357
\n00:20:49,700 –> 00:20:52,100
\nrevealed and declares
\ncontrariwise. <\/p>\n

358
\n00:20:52,100 –> 00:20:55,300
\nOf course, a lie.
\nThis is all fairly basic stuff. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:20:55,800 –> 00:21:00,900
\nA nice addition to that often,
\nthis lie is an accusation <\/p>\n

360
\n00:21:01,200 –> 00:21:03,900
\nagainst a righteous man that’s
\npart of the characteristic <\/p>\n

361
\n00:21:03,900 –> 00:21:06,000
\ntemplate.
\nI kind of not really a point in <\/p>\n

362
\n00:21:06,000 –> 00:21:09,200
\nits own right because it’s part
\nof the the statement Satan makes<\/p>\n

363
\n00:21:09,200 –> 00:21:13,700
\nour kind of cool that B and then
\nfinally 3 this is important. <\/p>\n

364
\n00:21:14,200 –> 00:21:18,700
\nGod rebukes Satan in God’s Own
\ntime and at the point of his own<\/p>\n

365
\n00:21:18,700 –> 00:21:23,100
\nchoosing he says enough it is
\ntime Satan for you to be <\/p>\n

366
\n00:21:23,100 –> 00:21:25,300
\nrebuked.
\nAnd this is the complete <\/p>\n

367
\n00:21:25,300 –> 00:21:27,900
\ntemplate that we see in the
\ninteraction between God and <\/p>\n

368
\n00:21:27,900 –> 00:21:29,400
\nSatan.
\nLet’s look at a couple of <\/p>\n

369
\n00:21:29,400 –> 00:21:32,800
\nexamples, from outside of the
\nBook of Job, way away from the <\/p>\n

370
\n00:21:32,800 –> 00:21:34,300
\nbit that we’re trying to figure
\nout. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:21:34,500 –> 00:21:37,200
\nAnd then we’ve got the template
\nset, let’s put it over the Book <\/p>\n

372
\n00:21:37,200 –> 00:21:39,500
\nof Job and see how things drop
\nout. <\/p>\n

373
\n00:21:40,400 –> 00:21:44,100
\nSo then or just look straight
\ninto the lens or you have all <\/p>\n

374
\n00:21:44,100 –> 00:21:48,100
\ndisappeared, please don’t leave
\nyour seats in Eden. <\/p>\n

375
\n00:21:48,900 –> 00:21:51,500
\nYou must not eat from the Tree
\nof the knowledge of Good and <\/p>\n

376
\n00:21:51,500 –> 00:21:53,800
\nEvil.
\nFor when you eat of it, you will<\/p>\n

377
\n00:21:53,800 –> 00:21:55,800
\nsurely die.
\nThat is a pronouncement from <\/p>\n

378
\n00:21:55,800 –> 00:21:57,600
\nalmighty God.
\nIt’s a truth. <\/p>\n

379
\n00:21:58,200 –> 00:22:03,000
\nAnd then the serpent produces a
\nlie, you will not surely die. <\/p>\n

380
\n00:22:03,300 –> 00:22:05,700
\nThe serpent said and that is
\nSatan. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:22:05,900 –> 00:22:08,100
\nWe know that that’s the origin
\nof what the Bible is going to <\/p>\n

382
\n00:22:08,108 –> 00:22:11,400
\nmean by Satan because the Bible
\nOther side, you have to go to <\/p>\n

383
\n00:22:11,400 –> 00:22:14,800
\nthe last book of the Bible to
\nget that that ancient serpent <\/p>\n

384
\n00:22:14,800 –> 00:22:18,300
\nwho is called the devil and
\nSatan, the deceiver and look at <\/p>\n

385
\n00:22:18,300 –> 00:22:20,100
\nthis.
\nThe way this is thrown in the <\/p>\n

386
\n00:22:20,100 –> 00:22:23,700
\naccuser of our Brethren.
\nSo there is a slanderous <\/p>\n

387
\n00:22:23,700 –> 00:22:28,500
\naccusation associated with the
\nlie that Satan has created. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:22:28,700 –> 00:22:30,500
\nThat’s interesting.
\nThat’s part of the template. <\/p>\n

389
\n00:22:30,700 –> 00:22:33,800
\nAnd then, of course, it’s a
\ncomplete, the template, the Lord<\/p>\n

390
\n00:22:33,800 –> 00:22:37,700
\nGod said to the serpent because
\nyou have done, this cursed, are <\/p>\n

391
\n00:22:37,700 –> 00:22:41,700
\nyou above all the livestock?
\nAnd All the wild animals. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:22:42,000 –> 00:22:45,300
\nSo there’s the completed
\ninteraction first time through <\/p>\n

393
\n00:22:45,400 –> 00:22:48,000
\nthat, like, makes us feel
\ncomfortable about the template <\/p>\n

394
\n00:22:48,000 –> 00:22:50,000
\nthat we’ve got.
\nLet’s take a second example now,<\/p>\n

395
\n00:22:50,000 –> 00:22:52,700
\nwe’re in the New Testament
\nagain, very simple interaction, <\/p>\n

396
\n00:22:52,700 –> 00:22:57,500
\nvery well-known, Peters rebuke
\nfrom that time on Jesus began to<\/p>\n

397
\n00:22:57,500 –> 00:23:00,900
\nexplain that he must be killed.
\nAnd on the third day, be raised <\/p>\n

398
\n00:23:00,900 –> 00:23:03,200
\nto life and those were God’s
\nwords. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:23:03,500 –> 00:23:06,700
\nHe told us that he said, I don’t
\nI don’t chatter along about my <\/p>\n

400
\n00:23:06,700 –> 00:23:10,900
\nown thoughts and feelings.
\nHe said I only speak What the <\/p>\n

401
\n00:23:10,900 –> 00:23:14,300
\nLord God gave me to speak tying
\nin with what brother? <\/p>\n

402
\n00:23:14,300 –> 00:23:17,700
\nJohn is saying.
\nYou saying I am the medium by <\/p>\n

403
\n00:23:17,700 –> 00:23:22,600
\nwhich God’s words come to you.
\nI am the mediator, the medium by<\/p>\n

404
\n00:23:22,600 –> 00:23:25,300
\nwhich that transmission arrives
\nin your ears. <\/p>\n

405
\n00:23:25,500 –> 00:23:30,500
\nThese are God’s words and so
\nunfortunately, Peter took him <\/p>\n

406
\n00:23:30,500 –> 00:23:33,800
\naside and please understand.
\nI am puke, no evil motives <\/p>\n

407
\n00:23:33,800 –> 00:23:36,200
\nwhatsoever to Peter.
\nIn this instance, he is a far <\/p>\n

408
\n00:23:36,200 –> 00:23:39,000
\nbetter Apostle of his law
\ndisciple of his Lord then I can <\/p>\n

409
\n00:23:39,000 –> 00:23:42,200
\nnever be Peter.
\nJesus aside and began to rebuke <\/p>\n

410
\n00:23:42,200 –> 00:23:43,400
\nhim.
\nNever Lord. <\/p>\n

411
\n00:23:43,400 –> 00:23:47,900
\nHe said this shall never happen
\nto you, it’s an untruth and <\/p>\n

412
\n00:23:47,900 –> 00:23:52,400
\nunfortunately, it also
\nnecessarily forms an accusation <\/p>\n

413
\n00:23:53,100 –> 00:23:55,400
\nbecause at the very least
\nwhether you like it or whether <\/p>\n

414
\n00:23:55,400 –> 00:23:58,400
\nyou don’t, it means that Peter
\nis saying, at the very least to <\/p>\n

415
\n00:23:58,400 –> 00:24:01,600
\nJesus Gia, kind of getting
\nblowing this out of proportion, <\/p>\n

416
\n00:24:01,600 –> 00:24:03,800
\naren’t you?
\nYou know what you mean? <\/p>\n

417
\n00:24:03,800 –> 00:24:06,300
\nYou’re gonna be killed her.
\nWhat do you think? <\/p>\n

418
\n00:24:06,300 –> 00:24:09,500
\nI am nothing.
\nI got a sword to be using it <\/p>\n

419
\n00:24:09,500 –> 00:24:11,900
\nlater.
\nI’ll look after you you’re <\/p>\n

420
\n00:24:11,900 –> 00:24:15,100
\nmaking, you’re making too much
\nout of this, and of course it’s <\/p>\n

421
\n00:24:15,100 –> 00:24:17,600
\nnot.
\nJesus is not exaggerating, he’s <\/p>\n

422
\n00:24:17,600 –> 00:24:19,800
\nnot drowning in melodramatic
\nself-pity. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:24:20,000 –> 00:24:23,700
\nThat’s the necessary though.
\nDoubtless unintended accusation <\/p>\n

424
\n00:24:23,700 –> 00:24:27,100
\nthat Peter is bringing and so
\nthe template is completed, Jesus<\/p>\n

425
\n00:24:27,100 –> 00:24:29,600
\nturned and said to Peter and
\ndoubtless, Without Anger, I <\/p>\n

426
\n00:24:29,608 –> 00:24:33,900
\nbelieve get behind me Satan move
\nout of the way. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:24:34,300 –> 00:24:38,400
\nYou don’t want to be doing that.
\nOkay and he uses the word. <\/p>\n

428
\n00:24:38,400 –> 00:24:41,700
\nSatan I think deliberately to
\nallow us an extra completed <\/p>\n

429
\n00:24:41,700 –> 00:24:43,700
\ntemplate from which to work,
\nlet’s look at. <\/p>\n

430
\n00:24:43,700 –> 00:24:48,100
\nWhoa, let’s look at one more
\nexample, the slander of <\/p>\n

431
\n00:24:48,100 –> 00:24:50,100
\nJerusalem or the attack on
\nJerusalem. <\/p>\n

432
\n00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:52,300
\nThis is in the time of the
\nExile. <\/p>\n

433
\n00:24:52,600 –> 00:24:54,000
\nThis is a pronouncement from the
\nLord. <\/p>\n

434
\n00:24:54,000 –> 00:24:58,400
\nGod, this time coming through,
\nCyrus the Persian the king, the <\/p>\n

435
\n00:24:58,400 –> 00:25:00,600
\nLord, the god of Heaven Cyrus is
\nspeaking. <\/p>\n

436
\n00:25:00,700 –> 00:25:04,400
\nThe Lord, the god of Heaven, has
\nappointed me to build a temple <\/p>\n

437
\n00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:08,800
\nfor him at Jerusalem.
\nIn Judah, anyone of his people <\/p>\n

438
\n00:25:08,800 –> 00:25:12,400
\namong you, let him go up and
\nbuild the Temple of the Lord, <\/p>\n

439
\n00:25:12,500 –> 00:25:15,700
\nthe god of Israel.
\nThe God Who is in Jerusalem. <\/p>\n

440
\n00:25:15,900 –> 00:25:19,500
\nSo you notice how Jerusalem is
\nmentioned as the chosen city of <\/p>\n

441
\n00:25:19,500 –> 00:25:21,300
\nGod?
\nIt’s in a terrible mess at that <\/p>\n

442
\n00:25:21,300 –> 00:25:24,700
\nparticular time, but this is
\nwhere God begins to pronounce <\/p>\n

443
\n00:25:24,700 –> 00:25:26,600
\nhis purpose of restoration of
\nJerusalem. <\/p>\n

444
\n00:25:27,700 –> 00:25:31,500
\nHere Comes Satan, and to Satan
\nwhen the enemies, when the <\/p>\n

445
\n00:25:31,500 –> 00:25:35,400
\nopponents, when the Satan’s of
\nJudah and Benjamin heard, the <\/p>\n

446
\n00:25:35,400 –> 00:25:38,300
\nExiles were building a temple
\nfor the Lord, the god of Israel.<\/p>\n

447
\n00:25:38,500 –> 00:25:42,300
\nThey hired counselors to work
\nagainst them and frustrate their<\/p>\n

448
\n00:25:42,300 –> 00:25:45,700
\nplans.
\nIn particular, they sent a <\/p>\n

449
\n00:25:45,700 –> 00:25:48,500
\nletter to the king whom the
\nreferred to as our tax Xerxes. <\/p>\n

450
\n00:25:48,500 –> 00:25:51,300
\nThat’s just a title.
\nThis is a copy of the letter, <\/p>\n

451
\n00:25:51,300 –> 00:25:55,300
\nthey sent him to King.
\nArtaxerxes the Jews who came up <\/p>\n

452
\n00:25:55,300 –> 00:25:59,300
\nto us, from you have gone to
\nJerusalem and are rebuilding <\/p>\n

453
\n00:25:59,400 –> 00:26:03,600
\nthat rebellious and wicked City.
\nThere’s the slander that’s put <\/p>\n

454
\n00:26:03,600 –> 00:26:05,400
\non Jerusalem.
\nI don’t stop there. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:26:05,400 –> 00:26:07,300
\nThey actually go out and
\nphysically attacked the builders<\/p>\n

456
\n00:26:07,300 –> 00:26:09,700
\nto, you know, that from the from
\nthe writings of Nehemiah. <\/p>\n

457
\n00:26:09,700 –> 00:26:12,200
\nWhen they got a trowel in one
\nhand, to do the work and a bow <\/p>\n

458
\n00:26:12,200 –> 00:26:14,300
\nand arrow in the other hand,
\nliterally, at the same I’m at <\/p>\n

459
\n00:26:14,300 –> 00:26:16,900
\nall times because they’re trying
\nto build a wall and they keep <\/p>\n

460
\n00:26:16,900 –> 00:26:18,700
\nbeing physically attacked and
\nhave to shoot off their <\/p>\n

461
\n00:26:18,700 –> 00:26:22,300
\nattackers.
\nAnd to complete the template. <\/p>\n

462
\n00:26:22,900 –> 00:26:25,100
\nThis is the commentary from the
\nbook of Zechariah at exactly the<\/p>\n

463
\n00:26:25,100 –> 00:26:28,000
\nsame time.
\nThe Lord said to Satan the Lord <\/p>\n

464
\n00:26:28,000 –> 00:26:32,500
\nrebuke you Satan, the Lord who
\nhas chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you<\/p>\n

465
\n00:26:32,600 –> 00:26:34,800
\nand it’s this mention of
\nJerusalem that allows us to tie <\/p>\n

466
\n00:26:34,800 –> 00:26:38,000
\nwith confidence these words in
\nZechariah upon. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:26:38,000 –> 00:26:42,200
\nWhom Jude also comments to that
\nsame event, okay? <\/p>\n

468
\n00:26:42,200 –> 00:26:44,300
\nSo those three examples of the
\ntemplate that’s enough, there’s <\/p>\n

469
\n00:26:44,300 –> 00:26:45,500
\nmore out there but that’s
\nenough. <\/p>\n

470
\n00:26:45,500 –> 00:26:49,500
\nI think now we’re ready to say.
\nWe know the template interaction<\/p>\n

471
\n00:26:49,600 –> 00:26:53,800
\nbetween God Satan, let’s go off
\nto the Book of Job and see if we<\/p>\n

472
\n00:26:53,800 –> 00:26:56,900
\nlay this template on the text
\nwhat is it going to teach us <\/p>\n

473
\n00:26:57,100 –> 00:26:59,600
\nabout exactly who’s who and
\nwhat’s what? <\/p>\n

474
\n00:26:59,900 –> 00:27:02,500
\nHere’s the same interaction we
\nexpect God to pronounce the <\/p>\n

475
\n00:27:02,508 –> 00:27:04,900
\ntruth.
\nVery good this happens. <\/p>\n

476
\n00:27:05,000 –> 00:27:08,500
\nThe Lord said to Satan, have you
\nconsidered my servant job? <\/p>\n

477
\n00:27:08,700 –> 00:27:13,500
\nThere’s no one on earth, like
\nhim, he is blameless. <\/p>\n

478
\n00:27:13,600 –> 00:27:19,100
\nAnd upright, a man who fears God
\nand shuns evil And so Satan of <\/p>\n

479
\n00:27:19,100 –> 00:27:23,800
\ncourse, by definition
\ncontradicts and opposes and to <\/p>\n

480
\n00:27:23,800 –> 00:27:26,900
\nhelp us out at the beginning of
\nthe text, Satan goes by that <\/p>\n

481
\n00:27:26,900 –> 00:27:29,600
\nname.
\nSatan does job fear God for <\/p>\n

482
\n00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:31,600
\nnothing.
\nWe’ve already said this, you <\/p>\n

483
\n00:27:31,600 –> 00:27:34,200
\nsaying he’s not truly a
\nrighteous man. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:27:34,600 –> 00:27:37,700
\nHe’s only worshiping you because
\nyou’ve made him so rich. <\/p>\n

485
\n00:27:38,300 –> 00:27:42,300
\nBut what we’ve also learned from
\nthe template is that that lie, <\/p>\n

486
\n00:27:42,400 –> 00:27:46,900
\nthat opposing lie against the
\nDeclaration of God necessarily <\/p>\n

487
\n00:27:46,900 –> 00:27:50,200
\nshould and Must form an
\naccusation against the <\/p>\n

488
\n00:27:50,200 –> 00:27:52,300
\nrighteous, man.
\nWe’ve seen that in each of the <\/p>\n

489
\n00:27:52,300 –> 00:27:57,300
\nthree examples who then forms
\naccusations against the <\/p>\n

490
\n00:27:57,300 –> 00:28:00,700
\nrighteous man, because these
\nlies will come from Satan. <\/p>\n

491
\n00:28:01,600 –> 00:28:05,000
\nHere they are.
\nIs not your wickedness. <\/p>\n

492
\n00:28:05,000 –> 00:28:09,600
\nGreat says eliphaz.
\nOh, not your sins and less <\/p>\n

493
\n00:28:10,500 –> 00:28:13,800
\nbildad’s is much the same.
\nThe lamp of the wicked is <\/p>\n

494
\n00:28:13,800 –> 00:28:16,500
\nsnuffed out.
\nHe has no Offspring or <\/p>\n

495
\n00:28:16,500 –> 00:28:20,200
\ndescendants amongst his people.
\nThat’s a nice thing to tell, <\/p>\n

496
\n00:28:20,200 –> 00:28:22,200
\nsomeone who’s just had all their
\nchildren killed. <\/p>\n

497
\n00:28:22,700 –> 00:28:24,800
\nThe Wicked Man.
\nDoesn’t have any descendants, <\/p>\n

498
\n00:28:24,800 –> 00:28:28,700
\nyou know.
\nTerrible thing to say what a <\/p>\n

499
\n00:28:28,700 –> 00:28:32,800
\nhorrible thing to say and so
\nfar, oh, how I wish God would <\/p>\n

500
\n00:28:32,800 –> 00:28:35,800
\nspeak that, he would open his
\nlips against you. <\/p>\n

501
\n00:28:35,800 –> 00:28:39,100
\nJobe know.
\nThis God has even forgotten some<\/p>\n

502
\n00:28:39,100 –> 00:28:42,500
\nof your sin.
\nYour sin is so large, God can’t <\/p>\n

503
\n00:28:42,500 –> 00:28:47,100
\neven remember all of it.
\nThese are the accusations <\/p>\n

504
\n00:28:47,100 –> 00:28:52,500
\nagainst the righteous, man, that
\nsupport the opposition to God’s <\/p>\n

505
\n00:28:52,500 –> 00:28:54,500
\npronouncement.
\nThat job is righteous and <\/p>\n

506
\n00:28:54,500 –> 00:28:56,900
\nblameless.
\nThere can be no doubt where they<\/p>\n

507
\n00:28:56,900 –> 00:29:01,200
\ncome from Satan is, I don’t want
\nto make it these three humans in<\/p>\n

508
\n00:29:01,200 –> 00:29:04,900
\nhistory and no one else.
\nIt is the spirit, the heart of <\/p>\n

509
\n00:29:04,900 –> 00:29:08,500
\nnatural man.
\nMost clearly evidencing itself <\/p>\n

510
\n00:29:08,800 –> 00:29:12,300
\nin the pronouncements of these
\nthree wicked men who are trying <\/p>\n

511
\n00:29:12,300 –> 00:29:14,500
\nIn fairness to them to be
\nrighteous man. <\/p>\n

512
\n00:29:14,900 –> 00:29:17,100
\nBut have gone horribly and
\nterribly. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:29:17,100 –> 00:29:21,100
\nMisguided is not the definition
\nof sin in Hebrew, something to <\/p>\n

514
\n00:29:21,100 –> 00:29:24,100
\nmiss the mark and my goodness,
\nhow badly. <\/p>\n

515
\n00:29:24,100 –> 00:29:26,500
\nThese three people have missed
\nthe mark. <\/p>\n

516
\n00:29:28,200 –> 00:29:31,000
\nAnd then, of course, to complete
\nthe template, the template would<\/p>\n

517
\n00:29:31,000 –> 00:29:34,000
\nbe incomplete if Satan was
\ndefined any other way, because <\/p>\n

518
\n00:29:34,000 –> 00:29:35,700
\nthere’s only one person or only
\none group. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:29:35,700 –> 00:29:39,200
\nI should say that I rebuked
\nwithin the story of Joe and to <\/p>\n

520
\n00:29:39,200 –> 00:29:42,400
\ncomplete the same plate.
\nGod always rebuked Satan at <\/p>\n

521
\n00:29:42,400 –> 00:29:44,600
\nwhatever time he determines to
\nbe the end. <\/p>\n

522
\n00:29:44,900 –> 00:29:47,800
\nAnd after the Lord had said
\nthings to job, he says to <\/p>\n

523
\n00:29:47,800 –> 00:29:51,200
\neliphaz.
\nI am angry with you and your two<\/p>\n

524
\n00:29:51,200 –> 00:29:54,000
\nfriends you have not spoken of
\nme. <\/p>\n

525
\n00:29:54,000 –> 00:29:57,800
\nWhat is right?
\nAs my servant job has When Joe <\/p>\n

526
\n00:29:57,800 –> 00:30:01,900
\nwill pray for you and I will
\naccept his prayer and not deal <\/p>\n

527
\n00:30:01,900 –> 00:30:03,800
\nwith you according to your
\nFolly. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:30:04,900 –> 00:30:06,600
\nAnd I think therefore
\nunderstanding that broader <\/p>\n

529
\n00:30:06,600 –> 00:30:09,500
\ntemplate and then seeing that
\nsame interaction with, in the <\/p>\n

530
\n00:30:09,508 –> 00:30:13,600
\nBook of Job allows us some
\nconfidence in attributing the <\/p>\n

531
\n00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:16,700
\ncharacter of Satan to the three
\nfriends themselves. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:30:16,900 –> 00:30:18,700
\nOkay?
\nThen if that’s true. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:30:20,700 –> 00:30:23,000
\nIf that’s true.
\nHow does the Book of Job <\/p>\n

534
\n00:30:23,000 –> 00:30:25,600
\nactually work?
\nLet’s just rerun the storyline <\/p>\n

535
\n00:30:25,600 –> 00:30:28,000
\nof jokes a very short story
\nlines quite a large book with a <\/p>\n

536
\n00:30:28,000 –> 00:30:30,600
\nvery short story line.
\nLet’s just recapitulate. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:30:30,700 –> 00:30:33,900
\nThe storyline of jobin our heads
\nwith that understanding and see <\/p>\n

538
\n00:30:33,900 –> 00:30:38,700
\nif everything fits into place.
\nSo we start off eliphaz bildad <\/p>\n

539
\n00:30:38,700 –> 00:30:42,800
\nand zophar going to and fro in
\nthe earth, become resentful of <\/p>\n

540
\n00:30:42,800 –> 00:30:45,300
\njob’s wealth going to and fro in
\nthe earth. <\/p>\n

541
\n00:30:46,000 –> 00:30:48,500
\nWhy would they be going to and
\nfro in the earth? <\/p>\n

542
\n00:30:49,200 –> 00:30:50,800
\nWe haven’t got there.
\nIt because we’re going to do <\/p>\n

543
\n00:30:50,800 –> 00:30:53,200
\nthis tomorrow.
\nBut I really want to suggest to <\/p>\n

544
\n00:30:53,200 –> 00:30:59,700
\nyou that this whole time of job
\nis during the time of Israel’s <\/p>\n

545
\n00:30:59,700 –> 00:31:02,800
\nwandering in the wilderness.
\nThat’s exactly what Israel are <\/p>\n

546
\n00:31:02,800 –> 00:31:05,500
\ndoing.
\nThey are wondering for 40 years <\/p>\n

547
\n00:31:05,900 –> 00:31:08,800
\nto and fro in figures of eight
\nor whatsoever, pattern takes <\/p>\n

548
\n00:31:08,800 –> 00:31:12,200
\ntheir fancy, they are wandering
\nto and fro in the earth, there <\/p>\n

549
\n00:31:12,200 –> 00:31:15,500
\nis a risk with travel.
\nThe more you travel, the more <\/p>\n

550
\n00:31:15,500 –> 00:31:18,900
\nyou see, if you’re tempted by
\nthe side of the eyes, the more <\/p>\n

551
\n00:31:18,900 –> 00:31:21,000
\nyou travel, the more you see,
\nSee, the more you’re tempted, <\/p>\n

552
\n00:31:21,000 –> 00:31:24,200
\nthe more you are likely to
\nfinally run into that one Vision<\/p>\n

553
\n00:31:24,200 –> 00:31:26,600
\nin front of you.
\nIt says oh that’s hag. <\/p>\n

554
\n00:31:26,600 –> 00:31:30,900
\nI’d like that, that’s nice.
\nAnd by going to and fro in the <\/p>\n

555
\n00:31:30,900 –> 00:31:33,500
\nearth, they become resentful of
\njob’s wealth. <\/p>\n

556
\n00:31:33,800 –> 00:31:37,800
\nThey know who he is, they see
\nhow far his land extends job is <\/p>\n

557
\n00:31:37,800 –> 00:31:39,700
\nnot one of the Israelites I’m
\ngoing to try and show that <\/p>\n

558
\n00:31:39,700 –> 00:31:41,400
\ntomorrow.
\nHe’s not one of the wandering <\/p>\n

559
\n00:31:41,400 –> 00:31:44,000
\ntribe.
\nHe is a fixture in the land of <\/p>\n

560
\n00:31:44,000 –> 00:31:45,600
\nus.
\nHe belongs there. <\/p>\n

561
\n00:31:45,600 –> 00:31:51,300
\nThat’s his homeland.
\nSo they the three men accused <\/p>\n

562
\n00:31:51,300 –> 00:31:54,100
\njob in their hearts while
\nappearing before the Lord, where<\/p>\n

563
\n00:31:54,100 –> 00:31:55,700
\ndo they appear in the presence
\nof the Lord? <\/p>\n

564
\n00:31:56,100 –> 00:31:58,200
\nIf my timing is right?
\nWe’re talking about the <\/p>\n

565
\n00:31:58,208 –> 00:32:01,200
\nTabernacle at the time that they
\ngo to the Tabernacle, Elder <\/p>\n

566
\n00:32:01,200 –> 00:32:04,500
\nWilderness to present their
\nsacrifice and sing their praises<\/p>\n

567
\n00:32:04,500 –> 00:32:06,800
\nand whatever they have that in
\ntheir heart. <\/p>\n

568
\n00:32:07,100 –> 00:32:10,200
\nThey’re still lurked.
\nAnd ticked, by what they’ve seen<\/p>\n

569
\n00:32:10,400 –> 00:32:12,600
\nthis rich man?
\nWho’s not one of them? <\/p>\n

570
\n00:32:12,700 –> 00:32:15,900
\nNo, child of Abraham.
\nHe and yet, he has a Homeland. <\/p>\n

571
\n00:32:15,900 –> 00:32:18,200
\nDo we have a Homeland with a
\nchildren of God and we’re <\/p>\n

572
\n00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:19,400
\ntramping around.
\nDesert. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:32:19,800 –> 00:32:22,100
\nWe don’t have a Homeland.
\nHe does with his flocks, and <\/p>\n

574
\n00:32:22,100 –> 00:32:26,200
\nherds conniving, his faith
\nhinges on his wealth. <\/p>\n

575
\n00:32:26,300 –> 00:32:29,100
\nThat’s what they impute to Joe
\nthe opposition of their <\/p>\n

576
\n00:32:29,100 –> 00:32:31,800
\nthoughts.
\nAnd God’s is presented as a <\/p>\n

577
\n00:32:31,808 –> 00:32:34,100
\nconversation.
\nSo I’m taking a metaphorical <\/p>\n

578
\n00:32:34,100 –> 00:32:36,900
\ntake to the conversation between
\nGod and Satan. <\/p>\n

579
\n00:32:36,900 –> 00:32:40,100
\nIn other words, God looks down
\nand sees them and says, oh I <\/p>\n

580
\n00:32:40,100 –> 00:32:45,100
\nsee, I see what you’re thinking.
\nI know what you’re thinking, you<\/p>\n

581
\n00:32:45,100 –> 00:32:46,700
\ncan barely concentrate on that
\nhim. <\/p>\n

582
\n00:32:46,700 –> 00:32:47,500
\nYou’re singing.
\nCan you? <\/p>\n

583
\n00:32:47,500 –> 00:32:50,700
\nYou just all filled.
\nOld with bitterness about this <\/p>\n

584
\n00:32:50,700 –> 00:32:53,200
\nrich man?
\nWhose no part of your community,<\/p>\n

585
\n00:32:53,800 –> 00:32:56,000
\nthat’s really annoyed.
\nYou, I see what you’re doing. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:32:56,300 –> 00:33:01,200
\nYou think, you think that man
\nfollows me just because of his <\/p>\n

587
\n00:33:01,200 –> 00:33:02,900
\nwealth, don’t you?
\nI see that. <\/p>\n

588
\n00:33:02,900 –> 00:33:06,400
\nI see that thought you think
\nthat if I took his wealth away <\/p>\n

589
\n00:33:06,800 –> 00:33:12,300
\nhe’d curse me to my face.
\nOkay, I’m going to act on your <\/p>\n

590
\n00:33:12,300 –> 00:33:14,400
\nin bitter jealousy.
\nI’m going to empower it. <\/p>\n

591
\n00:33:14,500 –> 00:33:17,300
\nI’m going to give it the
\nauthority to do what it desires.<\/p>\n

592
\n00:33:17,900 –> 00:33:20,800
\nLet’s make that happen.
\nAnd we’ll see whether or not, <\/p>\n

593
\n00:33:20,800 –> 00:33:23,500
\nyou’re right.
\nSo God, empowers their jealousy <\/p>\n

594
\n00:33:23,500 –> 00:33:26,500
\nand acts on it, we know it is
\nGod who acts to cause the <\/p>\n

595
\n00:33:26,500 –> 00:33:30,400
\nafflictions to Joe, so the three
\nfriends, start to comfort Joe, <\/p>\n

596
\n00:33:30,700 –> 00:33:33,000
\nI’m sure they’re genuinely
\nhorrified when they first see <\/p>\n

597
\n00:33:33,100 –> 00:33:38,500
\ncrash jobs, lost everything.
\nWhoa, we know this guy be back <\/p>\n

598
\n00:33:38,500 –> 00:33:41,400
\naround to his house and see if
\nhe’s still alive. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:33:42,200 –> 00:33:43,700
\nI’ve heard the whole family of
\nbeen wiped out. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:33:43,700 –> 00:33:48,200
\nLet’s see who’s left.
\nBut as time passes truth comes <\/p>\n

601
\n00:33:48,200 –> 00:33:52,300
\nout, their underlying feelings,
\nall emerge in the end and all <\/p>\n

602
\n00:33:52,300 –> 00:33:56,000
\nthree make false and very
\nembittered accusations against <\/p>\n

603
\n00:33:56,000 –> 00:34:00,700
\nthe character of job.
\nAnd then God, rebuke Satan. <\/p>\n

604
\n00:34:00,700 –> 00:34:04,100
\nThe three friends, righteous
\nJobe intercedes with them as a <\/p>\n

605
\n00:34:04,108 –> 00:34:06,800
\npriest and righteous job is
\nblessed. <\/p>\n

606
\n00:34:06,900 –> 00:34:09,699
\nSo that is how that story
\nrecapitulates with the <\/p>\n

607
\n00:34:09,699 –> 00:34:15,199
\nunderstanding we have so far.
\nWe have Oh, we have a some time <\/p>\n

608
\n00:34:15,199 –> 00:34:16,199
\nremaining.
\nThat’s great. <\/p>\n

609
\n00:34:16,199 –> 00:34:20,699
\nBecause what I want to do now is
\nspend some time made that <\/p>\n

610
\n00:34:20,699 –> 00:34:24,500
\npresentation to you and I
\nrealize it these things require <\/p>\n

611
\n00:34:24,500 –> 00:34:26,800
\nsome digestion time whether you
\nend up accepting them or <\/p>\n

612
\n00:34:26,800 –> 00:34:29,800
\nrejecting them, either way, some
\ndigestion time is good and I <\/p>\n

613
\n00:34:29,800 –> 00:34:33,199
\nwant to sort of rush through all
\nthis, but let’s see if we can’t <\/p>\n

614
\n00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:35,699
\nin all honesty and without
\nwishing to defend any one point <\/p>\n

615
\n00:34:35,699 –> 00:34:40,300
\nor another cone analyze, the
\npotential weaknesses of this <\/p>\n

616
\n00:34:40,300 –> 00:34:44,100
\nTheory as long as well as the
\npotential strengths of this And <\/p>\n

617
\n00:34:44,100 –> 00:34:45,699
\nbe honest and try and consider
\nanything. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:34:45,699 –> 00:34:48,199
\nAnd if I miss something that you
\nthink is principal, please come <\/p>\n

619
\n00:34:48,199 –> 00:34:50,900
\nand tell me about it.
\nI’ve always gained greatly from <\/p>\n

620
\n00:34:50,900 –> 00:34:55,000
\nthe feedback that I get of
\nhelping re guide and retune, my <\/p>\n

621
\n00:34:55,000 –> 00:34:57,000
\nthoughts whilst I’m at bible
\nschool. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:34:57,200 –> 00:34:58,400
\nLet’s look at the weaknesses
\nfirst. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:34:58,400 –> 00:35:00,000
\nWhat are the weaknesses of this
\ninterpretation? <\/p>\n

624
\n00:35:00,000 –> 00:35:01,900
\nThe idea that Satan is the heart
\nof man. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:35:02,100 –> 00:35:05,100
\nPerhaps most commonly showing
\nthrough these three friends at <\/p>\n

626
\n00:35:05,100 –> 00:35:08,100
\nthe moment.
\nWell, first of all, there seems <\/p>\n

627
\n00:35:08,100 –> 00:35:10,400
\nto be a contradiction that
\ndoesn’t that if the three <\/p>\n

628
\n00:35:10,400 –> 00:35:15,600
\nfriends really wanted job to
\nfail, Was their consolation was <\/p>\n

629
\n00:35:15,600 –> 00:35:18,400
\nthe fact that they went round
\nand sat with him seven days on <\/p>\n

630
\n00:35:18,400 –> 00:35:19,800
\nthe ground?
\nWhat was that? <\/p>\n

631
\n00:35:19,800 –> 00:35:22,200
\nSome sort of fake, some sort of
\nsham? <\/p>\n

632
\n00:35:23,900 –> 00:35:26,300
\nI don’t think it is a fake and I
\ndon’t think it is a sham and it <\/p>\n

633
\n00:35:26,300 –> 00:35:30,300
\nis a natural contradiction to
\nwhat we’ve proposed. <\/p>\n

634
\n00:35:31,100 –> 00:35:35,800
\nBut are humans rational
\ncreatures, are we not entirely <\/p>\n

635
\n00:35:35,800 –> 00:35:38,100
\nself contradictory?
\nI don’t have any problem at all <\/p>\n

636
\n00:35:38,600 –> 00:35:41,500
\nbelieving that their sympathy
\nfor job was absolutely genuine <\/p>\n

637
\n00:35:42,300 –> 00:35:45,700
\nand that they couldn’t see that
\ntheir own, embittered hatred of <\/p>\n

638
\n00:35:45,700 –> 00:35:47,000
\nhim which would probably gone
\naway. <\/p>\n

639
\n00:35:47,000 –> 00:35:50,900
\nBriefly was what had really that
\ngot enacted on it but know that <\/p>\n

640
\n00:35:50,900 –> 00:35:53,900
\nthey ever could have seen that
\nbut it’s only through Time as <\/p>\n

641
\n00:35:53,900 –> 00:35:57,000
\nthey began to reason with job.
\nWell, Joe, you know, I’m really <\/p>\n

642
\n00:35:57,000 –> 00:35:59,100
\nsorry for you and everything,
\nbut you know why you lost your <\/p>\n

643
\n00:35:59,100 –> 00:36:01,200
\nstuff, don’t you, you really are
\nan evil man. <\/p>\n

644
\n00:36:01,600 –> 00:36:02,800
\nYou shouldn’t you should
\nrecognize this. <\/p>\n

645
\n00:36:02,800 –> 00:36:06,500
\nNever got, God will give it back
\nso that I think it’s natural to <\/p>\n

646
\n00:36:06,500 –> 00:36:09,400
\nhave contradictions.
\nWe are not logical or rational <\/p>\n

647
\n00:36:09,400 –> 00:36:11,400
\ncreatures.
\nIf you imagine that we are, I <\/p>\n

648
\n00:36:11,400 –> 00:36:13,600
\ncan show you some road signs
\nwill absolutely blow your mind. <\/p>\n

649
\n00:36:14,200 –> 00:36:17,300
\nYeah.
\nBut that is a natural <\/p>\n

650
\n00:36:17,300 –> 00:36:20,200
\ncontradiction to the theory.
\nWe have additionally. <\/p>\n

651
\n00:36:20,200 –> 00:36:24,500
\nIt requires the meetings between
\ngods and And Satan which are <\/p>\n

652
\n00:36:24,500 –> 00:36:25,700
\noften referred to in the
\nliterature. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:36:25,700 –> 00:36:30,000
\nAs Heavens Council meetings, the
\nheavens Council meetings and <\/p>\n

654
\n00:36:30,000 –> 00:36:33,100
\nSatan’s empowerment, become
\ninterpretive statements. <\/p>\n

655
\n00:36:34,000 –> 00:36:35,800
\nBut I don’t have a problem with
\nthat, particularly whoops, <\/p>\n

656
\n00:36:35,800 –> 00:36:40,200
\npressed the wrong button because
\nthe interchanges are not in <\/p>\n

657
\n00:36:40,200 –> 00:36:42,500
\nheaven, to call these Heavens
\nCouncil meetings. <\/p>\n

658
\n00:36:42,500 –> 00:36:45,200
\nAs they so frequently are is
\nvery bad nomenclature. <\/p>\n

659
\n00:36:45,600 –> 00:36:48,700
\nThey don’t take place in heaven.
\nThey take place in the presence <\/p>\n

660
\n00:36:48,700 –> 00:36:51,200
\nof the Lord.
\nI understand why someone says, <\/p>\n

661
\n00:36:51,200 –> 00:36:52,800
\nwell that’s Heaven.
\nNo, it’s not. <\/p>\n

662
\n00:36:52,800 –> 00:36:56,900
\nLook at the The presence of the
\nLord is where humans assemble to<\/p>\n

663
\n00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:00,100
\ncome with God, Focus thoughts
\nbefore him, and that includes <\/p>\n

664
\n00:37:00,200 –> 00:37:03,600
\nthis room, because that’s why
\nyou’re here, you’re here, <\/p>\n

665
\n00:37:03,600 –> 00:37:07,300
\nbecause you have a god focused
\nlife and you’re here to praise <\/p>\n

666
\n00:37:07,300 –> 00:37:11,000
\nHis name and in to spend your
\ntime and energies upon thinking <\/p>\n

667
\n00:37:11,000 –> 00:37:13,700
\nabout his word and his will.
\nThis is the presence of the <\/p>\n

668
\n00:37:13,700 –> 00:37:15,400
\nLord.
\nThis is one of those areas, one <\/p>\n

669
\n00:37:15,400 –> 00:37:18,200
\nof, many around the world where
\nthat takes place, and that’s <\/p>\n

670
\n00:37:18,200 –> 00:37:19,800
\nwhere these conversations take
\nplace. <\/p>\n

671
\n00:37:20,200 –> 00:37:22,800
\nWe know, truly that, no, no,
\nSatan can stand before God, <\/p>\n

672
\n00:37:22,800 –> 00:37:24,800
\nanyway.
\nA truly Wicked thing, cannot <\/p>\n

673
\n00:37:24,800 –> 00:37:27,500
\ncome into the presence of God.
\nSo clearly it’s some <\/p>\n

674
\n00:37:27,500 –> 00:37:29,100
\ninterpretive level that’s
\nneeded. <\/p>\n

675
\n00:37:30,000 –> 00:37:32,500
\nSo those are the weaknesses.
\nI don’t see any others. <\/p>\n

676
\n00:37:32,500 –> 00:37:35,100
\nParticularly now, let’s look at
\nthe strengths. <\/p>\n

677
\n00:37:36,000 –> 00:37:39,000
\nThe strength of this suggestion
\nthat Satan is the heart of man <\/p>\n

678
\n00:37:39,100 –> 00:37:41,600
\nand three friends.
\nFirst of all, it’s consistent <\/p>\n

679
\n00:37:41,600 –> 00:37:45,900
\nwith the rest of scripture.
\nThis the human heart is the <\/p>\n

680
\n00:37:45,900 –> 00:37:49,800
\nopponent of God true on the on
\nthe most global scale and <\/p>\n

681
\n00:37:49,800 –> 00:37:53,400
\nlooking at scripture that is
\nGod’s one and only opponent. <\/p>\n

682
\n00:37:53,800 –> 00:37:58,300
\nIt’s his only Satan the stuff
\nthat’s in here, and in there. <\/p>\n

683
\n00:37:58,700 –> 00:38:01,200
\nThat’s what opposes god.
\nLet’s look at some scriptures, <\/p>\n

684
\n00:38:01,200 –> 00:38:03,700
\nthey’re very well-known, the
\nvery obvious, the first book of <\/p>\n

685
\n00:38:03,700 –> 00:38:07,300
\nthe Bible tells us this.
\nThe Lord saw how great man’s <\/p>\n

686
\n00:38:07,300 –> 00:38:08,900
\nwickedness on the earth had
\nbecome. <\/p>\n

687
\n00:38:09,200 –> 00:38:13,000
\nAnd that every inclination of
\nthe thoughts of his heart was <\/p>\n

688
\n00:38:13,000 –> 00:38:16,800
\nonly Evil, all the time and
\nwithin the constraints of the <\/p>\n

689
\n00:38:16,800 –> 00:38:19,700
\nEnglish language, it is not
\npossible to maintain a proper <\/p>\n

690
\n00:38:19,700 –> 00:38:22,200
\nEnglish sentence and put anymore
\nsuperlatives in it. <\/p>\n

691
\n00:38:22,200 –> 00:38:26,400
\nIt is as heavily loaded as 10B.
\nEvery inclination. <\/p>\n

692
\n00:38:27,500 –> 00:38:32,200
\nOnly Evil all the time.
\nOkay, we can go into the <\/p>\n

693
\n00:38:32,200 –> 00:38:37,800
\nprophets, the heart is deceitful
\nabove all things and desperately<\/p>\n

694
\n00:38:37,800 –> 00:38:42,500
\nwicked, or in some translations
\ndesperately sick, who can know <\/p>\n

695
\n00:38:42,500 –> 00:38:46,600
\nit, who can understand it.
\nAnd even into the New Testament,<\/p>\n

696
\n00:38:47,100 –> 00:38:51,600
\nwhat comes out of a man’s heart?
\nIs what makes him unclean? <\/p>\n

697
\n00:38:51,900 –> 00:38:54,600
\nThat’s what Jesus said.
\nWhen the Pharisees mistakenly <\/p>\n

698
\n00:38:54,600 –> 00:38:57,200
\nsuppose at some other failure to
\nperform rituals made a man. <\/p>\n

699
\n00:38:57,300 –> 00:39:02,200
\nClaim for from within men’s
\nhearts, come all these <\/p>\n

700
\n00:39:02,200 –> 00:39:05,800
\ndesperately evil things.
\nThey all come from inside. <\/p>\n

701
\n00:39:06,000 –> 00:39:10,300
\nThey make a man unclean or in
\nopposition to God. <\/p>\n

702
\n00:39:11,300 –> 00:39:13,000
\nOkay?
\nSo that’s our first point, it’s <\/p>\n

703
\n00:39:13,000 –> 00:39:14,700
\nconsistent with the rest of
\nscripture. <\/p>\n

704
\n00:39:15,600 –> 00:39:19,800
\nSecondly, this is the point that
\nI enjoy the most, just get to <\/p>\n

705
\n00:39:19,800 –> 00:39:21,700
\nknow.
\nSatan, have a look at him in the<\/p>\n

706
\n00:39:21,700 –> 00:39:24,200
\nBook of Job, and you’ll
\nrecognize him. <\/p>\n

707
\n00:39:24,200 –> 00:39:26,900
\nUnfortunately, you’ll recognize
\nhim all too well. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:39:26,900 –> 00:39:29,100
\nI Do look at his
\ncharacteristics. <\/p>\n

709
\n00:39:29,600 –> 00:39:34,700
\nNumber one, he’s jealous, right?
\nHe’s jealous of job’s material <\/p>\n

710
\n00:39:34,700 –> 00:39:36,200
\nwealth.
\nThat’s what drives all this. <\/p>\n

711
\n00:39:36,800 –> 00:39:40,900
\nDo we really suppose?
\nThat it was an angel, getting <\/p>\n

712
\n00:39:40,900 –> 00:39:44,800
\nall irate and ticked off about
\nthe fact that job had a huge <\/p>\n

713
\n00:39:44,800 –> 00:39:48,600
\nnumber of camels, right?
\nIt’s not very likely, Angels, <\/p>\n

714
\n00:39:48,600 –> 00:39:51,200
\ndon’t care how many camels you
\nhave humans. <\/p>\n

715
\n00:39:51,200 –> 00:39:53,600
\nDo right.
\nFor chemical for Camel. <\/p>\n

716
\n00:39:53,600 –> 00:39:57,100
\nThese day read Ferrari or
\nwhatever, but it’s the same. <\/p>\n

717
\n00:39:57,500 –> 00:39:58,900
\nRight?
\nLook at that all there. <\/p>\n

718
\n00:39:58,900 –> 00:40:00,200
\nHe is.
\nDriving that car again. <\/p>\n

719
\n00:40:00,200 –> 00:40:02,000
\nYour I thinks he’s a real
\nbusiness. <\/p>\n

720
\n00:40:02,000 –> 00:40:03,500
\nDoesn’t need in that little
\nvehicle. <\/p>\n

721
\n00:40:03,600 –> 00:40:06,200
\nThat’s a nice little number.
\nIt looks real flash. <\/p>\n

722
\n00:40:06,700 –> 00:40:09,200
\nIs he really deserve that?
\nI wonder why. <\/p>\n

723
\n00:40:09,200 –> 00:40:10,800
\nIn those days, it was camel but
\nthe same thing. <\/p>\n

724
\n00:40:10,800 –> 00:40:14,100
\nMaybe joke has stripes on his
\ncamel to I don’t know, okay? <\/p>\n

725
\n00:40:14,100 –> 00:40:17,000
\nAnd it could be anything.
\nNumber two, here’s a second <\/p>\n

726
\n00:40:17,000 –> 00:40:21,500
\ncharacteristic of Satan.
\nHe’s stupid, right? <\/p>\n

727
\n00:40:22,800 –> 00:40:28,300
\nHe tells God that he’s wrong.
\nIs there really a species? <\/p>\n

728
\n00:40:28,300 –> 00:40:30,300
\nSo stupid on it?
\nDo we think that could have been<\/p>\n

729
\n00:40:30,300 –> 00:40:33,300
\nan angel?
\nGod says, look at this guy. <\/p>\n

730
\n00:40:33,300 –> 00:40:36,900
\nHe’s great.
\nAnd there is someone so stupid <\/p>\n

731
\n00:40:36,900 –> 00:40:40,500
\nto say, well, God, you know,
\nyou’re, you’re a pretty bright <\/p>\n

732
\n00:40:40,500 –> 00:40:43,800
\nlad and all and nice job.
\nYou’ve done on this universe, <\/p>\n

733
\n00:40:43,800 –> 00:40:47,100
\nyou’ve met and B plus you know,
\nwhatever and yeah, you see a <\/p>\n

734
\n00:40:47,100 –> 00:40:48,500
\nlittle something about job,
\ndon’t you? <\/p>\n

735
\n00:40:48,508 –> 00:40:51,500
\nBut yeah, you see Guardian
\nmissing something. <\/p>\n

736
\n00:40:51,900 –> 00:40:54,900
\nI see a little More than you.
\nDo you see the outward <\/p>\n

737
\n00:40:54,900 –> 00:40:56,100
\nappearance?
\nDon’t you have jobs <\/p>\n

738
\n00:40:56,100 –> 00:40:59,500
\nrighteousness, but I, I see it
\nall. <\/p>\n

739
\n00:41:00,000 –> 00:41:03,600
\nNot only do I see jobs outward
\nrighteousness but I know why. <\/p>\n

740
\n00:41:03,600 –> 00:41:06,800
\nI know what drives it.
\nYou’re a bit dumb God, sorry. <\/p>\n

741
\n00:41:06,800 –> 00:41:08,100
\nYou’ve missed the bigger
\npicture. <\/p>\n

742
\n00:41:08,200 –> 00:41:13,300
\nLet me help you out, right?
\nI don’t think I cannot conceive <\/p>\n

743
\n00:41:13,900 –> 00:41:17,400
\nof a Divine, angel of God,
\ntaking that attitude. <\/p>\n

744
\n00:41:17,800 –> 00:41:21,500
\nCan I conceive of a human being
\nthat stupid? <\/p>\n

745
\n00:41:21,800 –> 00:41:22,800
\nI’ve met?
\nOne. <\/p>\n

746
\n00:41:23,300 –> 00:41:26,200
\nAll right you may have done too
\nand not just me by the way, <\/p>\n

747
\n00:41:27,300 –> 00:41:28,500
\nright?
\nThat’s one of the <\/p>\n

748
\n00:41:28,500 –> 00:41:31,400
\ncharacteristics of Satan.
\nHe’s not the smartest. <\/p>\n

749
\n00:41:33,000 –> 00:41:35,800
\nThis is a lovely one when he’s
\nshown to be wrong. <\/p>\n

750
\n00:41:35,900 –> 00:41:38,800
\nInstead of saying, okay, you
\nwin, he just shift the <\/p>\n

751
\n00:41:38,800 –> 00:41:41,400
\ngoalposts.
\nI mean, didn’t it didn’t Satan’s<\/p>\n

752
\n00:41:41,400 –> 00:41:43,800
\na take away his toys and he will
\ncurse you. <\/p>\n

753
\n00:41:43,800 –> 00:41:45,900
\nAnd God says, okay, fine there.
\nGo the toys. <\/p>\n

754
\n00:41:46,200 –> 00:41:47,700
\nLook.
\nHe’s still, blesses me. <\/p>\n

755
\n00:41:47,700 –> 00:41:50,600
\nHi able well, yeah, maybe but,
\nbut now I got a better one. <\/p>\n

756
\n00:41:50,700 –> 00:41:52,900
\nNo, I’m not wrong yet.
\nNo, actually, it’s because you <\/p>\n

757
\n00:41:52,900 –> 00:41:54,500
\ndidn’t as yeah.
\nI love just thought of <\/p>\n

758
\n00:41:54,508 –> 00:41:56,100
\nsomething.
\nYou should have actually struck <\/p>\n

759
\n00:41:56,100 –> 00:41:59,400
\nhis flesh to then I’ll be right.
\nYou see? <\/p>\n

760
\n00:41:59,700 –> 00:42:01,500
\nWho is it?
\nThat moves the goalposts when <\/p>\n

761
\n00:42:01,500 –> 00:42:04,000
\nthey’ve been shown.
\nWrong Angels. <\/p>\n

762
\n00:42:04,400 –> 00:42:07,100
\nDo we know that from scripture?
\nIs that something we’ve come to <\/p>\n

763
\n00:42:07,100 –> 00:42:09,500
\nlearn about angels?
\nIs that something that brother <\/p>\n

764
\n00:42:09,500 –> 00:42:12,100
\nBarry will be teaching us about
\nangels that whenever they’re <\/p>\n

765
\n00:42:12,100 –> 00:42:13,900
\nshown to be wrong?
\nWe move the goalposts. <\/p>\n

766
\n00:42:14,300 –> 00:42:18,600
\nKnow we’ve met those people.
\nThey are here Among Us and alas.<\/p>\n

767
\n00:42:18,700 –> 00:42:23,100
\nThey are here in this room and
\neven on this platform we shift <\/p>\n

768
\n00:42:23,100 –> 00:42:25,700
\nthe goalposts when we’re known
\nto be wrong because we don’t <\/p>\n

769
\n00:42:25,700 –> 00:42:29,100
\nwant to look to be wrong.
\nAnd when something doesn’t work <\/p>\n

770
\n00:42:29,100 –> 00:42:32,200
\nout, the way we predicted that,
\nit would we find some reason to <\/p>\n

771
\n00:42:32,300 –> 00:42:34,100
\nJustify that and say, oh, there
\nwas a missing element that I <\/p>\n

772
\n00:42:34,100 –> 00:42:35,800
\ndidn’t tell you about before,
\nbut if you did that, then I’d be<\/p>\n

773
\n00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:37,300
\nright.
\nThat’s us. <\/p>\n

774
\n00:42:38,200 –> 00:42:43,000
\nAnd finally, Satan’s Delight, is
\nthe downfall of a righteous man,<\/p>\n

775
\n00:42:43,600 –> 00:42:46,400
\nI find it impossible to
\nconceive. <\/p>\n

776
\n00:42:46,700 –> 00:42:52,200
\nThat an angel of the Divine host
\ntakes any Delight whatsoever in <\/p>\n

777
\n00:42:52,200 –> 00:42:54,600
\nthe downfall of a righteous,
\nman. <\/p>\n

778
\n00:42:55,400 –> 00:42:58,800
\nThat’s us, isn’t it?
\nDon’t we all celebrate it, <\/p>\n

779
\n00:42:58,800 –> 00:43:01,200
\nparticularly even even in his a
\nchallenging thing. <\/p>\n

780
\n00:43:02,200 –> 00:43:05,300
\nEven when we’re looking outside
\nof our community, let’s say <\/p>\n

781
\n00:43:05,500 –> 00:43:08,700
\nwe’re looking at a television
\nevangelist and suddenly he’s <\/p>\n

782
\n00:43:08,700 –> 00:43:11,300
\nexposed having committed some
\nterrible sin. <\/p>\n

783
\n00:43:12,000 –> 00:43:14,500
\nAnd don’t we Rejoice, ha ha.
\nI thought so e. <\/p>\n

784
\n00:43:15,400 –> 00:43:17,700
\nThat’s us, isn’t it?
\nI don’t think we should be doing<\/p>\n

785
\n00:43:17,700 –> 00:43:20,300
\nthat.
\nNot every failure is a <\/p>\n

786
\n00:43:20,308 –> 00:43:24,000
\nhypocrite, very difficult to
\ntell the difference between a <\/p>\n

787
\n00:43:24,000 –> 00:43:27,500
\nfailure and hypocrites because
\nthe external behavior of the to <\/p>\n

788
\n00:43:27,500 –> 00:43:30,700
\nis exactly the same unless we
\ncan see the heart. <\/p>\n

789
\n00:43:31,000 –> 00:43:32,600
\nWe can never tell the one from
\nthe other. <\/p>\n

790
\n00:43:33,300 –> 00:43:35,500
\nWe should impute the best
\nmotives that we’re looking at <\/p>\n

791
\n00:43:35,500 –> 00:43:38,700
\nfailures and not Hypocrites
\nexcept in the case of the one <\/p>\n

792
\n00:43:38,700 –> 00:43:43,300
\nhuman heart that we really do
\nknow about then we can judge <\/p>\n

793
\n00:43:44,300 –> 00:43:46,400
\nSatan’s Delight.
\nIs the downfall of a righteous <\/p>\n

794
\n00:43:46,400 –> 00:43:49,000
\nman considering then all of
\nSatan’s. <\/p>\n

795
\n00:43:49,100 –> 00:43:50,700
\nAny characteristics.
\nOne, two, three. <\/p>\n

796
\n00:43:50,700 –> 00:43:53,600
\nFour of them here.
\nI think we have very little <\/p>\n

797
\n00:43:53,600 –> 00:43:56,400
\ndoubt in identifying him as a
\nhuman. <\/p>\n

798
\n00:43:57,900 –> 00:44:01,500
\nIt’s also consistent with what
\nis known between angels and Men.<\/p>\n

799
\n00:44:02,800 –> 00:44:05,300
\nWhat does that mean?
\nNo idea what that means. <\/p>\n

800
\n00:44:05,300 –> 00:44:06,800
\nI’ll rewrite that.
\nOh, right. <\/p>\n

801
\n00:44:06,800 –> 00:44:08,300
\nOkay, we looked at that passage
\nearlier. <\/p>\n

802
\n00:44:09,100 –> 00:44:13,000
\nDivine Angels, do not commit
\nslander Angels, although they <\/p>\n

803
\n00:44:13,000 –> 00:44:15,200
\nare stronger and more powerful
\nthan men do. <\/p>\n

804
\n00:44:15,200 –> 00:44:18,600
\nNot bring slanderous accusations
\nagainst such beings in the <\/p>\n

805
\n00:44:18,600 –> 00:44:21,900
\npresence of the Lord.
\nIt means that the origin of <\/p>\n

806
\n00:44:21,900 –> 00:44:24,900
\nSatan going to and fro in the
\nEarth has a very natural <\/p>\n

807
\n00:44:24,900 –> 00:44:27,200
\ninterpretation.
\nWe learn from the book of James <\/p>\n

808
\n00:44:27,700 –> 00:44:30,500
\nJames, that’s where Temptation
\ncomes from. <\/p>\n

809
\n00:44:30,900 –> 00:44:33,700
\nThe more you see in front of
\nyour eyes, that’s what drives <\/p>\n

810
\n00:44:33,700 –> 00:44:35,600
\nyour Temptations.
\nWhat you see? <\/p>\n

811
\n00:44:36,100 –> 00:44:38,800
\nSo you go to and fro in the
\nearth and you see more and more.<\/p>\n

812
\n00:44:39,100 –> 00:44:41,100
\nThat’s humans that do that.
\nThat’s ask that. <\/p>\n

813
\n00:44:41,100 –> 00:44:43,600
\nDoes that?
\nAnd finally Satan is actually to<\/p>\n

814
\n00:44:43,600 –> 00:44:46,300
\nblame Right.
\nThat’s something that Joe The <\/p>\n

815
\n00:44:46,300 –> 00:44:50,200
\nBook of Job makes clear Satan is
\nto blame for this mess was a <\/p>\n

816
\n00:44:50,207 –> 00:44:55,800
\nDivine Angel to blame now.
\nNo, it is the human heart that <\/p>\n

817
\n00:44:55,800 –> 00:45:00,000
\nis to blame for the manifold,
\nevils and disasters, and <\/p>\n

818
\n00:45:00,000 –> 00:45:03,700
\nAssociated pain that we see in
\nthis otherwise wonderful world <\/p>\n

819
\n00:45:03,900 –> 00:45:06,900
\naround us.
\nHere’s an interesting concept <\/p>\n

820
\n00:45:06,900 –> 00:45:09,200
\nthat I find very difficult to
\narticulate. <\/p>\n

821
\n00:45:09,200 –> 00:45:11,700
\nSo work with me here because I’m
\nprobably going to make a mess of<\/p>\n

822
\n00:45:11,700 –> 00:45:14,000
\nexplaining this.
\nBut what I want to try and point<\/p>\n

823
\n00:45:14,000 –> 00:45:18,300
\nout is that only with this
\ninterpretation of Satan Being <\/p>\n

824
\n00:45:18,300 –> 00:45:22,100
\nHuman and specifically, the
\nthree friends, does the apparent<\/p>\n

825
\n00:45:22,100 –> 00:45:27,700
\nbarter between God and Satan.
\nMake any sense because without <\/p>\n

826
\n00:45:27,700 –> 00:45:32,000
\nit, the barter, in the early
\nchapters of job becomes like <\/p>\n

827
\n00:45:32,000 –> 00:45:34,400
\nGreek myth.
\nWhat I mean by that is if you <\/p>\n

828
\n00:45:34,400 –> 00:45:38,200
\nknow much Greek mythology.
\nThe gods, the Greek gods, these <\/p>\n

829
\n00:45:38,200 –> 00:45:42,400
\ncharacters that are invented in
\nstories a heartless, right? <\/p>\n

830
\n00:45:42,700 –> 00:45:45,100
\nYou know, to Greek gods will sit
\naround and say hmmm. <\/p>\n

831
\n00:45:45,400 –> 00:45:48,000
\nI’ve been if you smack him in
\nthe head he’ll fall over and <\/p>\n

832
\n00:45:48,000 –> 00:45:50,800
\nsaid, okay, I’ll bet you.
\nI finally watched it could ding.<\/p>\n

833
\n00:45:51,100 –> 00:45:52,300
\nOh, you were right or I’ll pay
\nthem? <\/p>\n

834
\n00:45:52,300 –> 00:45:55,200
\nWell, I bet you if you break his
\nback, his wife will catch your <\/p>\n

835
\n00:45:55,200 –> 00:45:55,600
\neye.
\nWatch. <\/p>\n

836
\n00:45:56,300 –> 00:45:57,900
\nNo, she didn’t know you win that
\none, too. <\/p>\n

837
\n00:45:58,300 –> 00:46:01,600
\nThis is how the Greek stories.
\nLook at them, the guards toy <\/p>\n

838
\n00:46:01,600 –> 00:46:04,800
\nwith men.
\nThey treat them just like <\/p>\n

839
\n00:46:04,800 –> 00:46:09,300
\nplaythings for their amusement
\nand they torture them and reward<\/p>\n

840
\n00:46:09,300 –> 00:46:10,700
\nthem and lift them up and throw
\nthem down. <\/p>\n

841
\n00:46:10,700 –> 00:46:13,300
\nJust for fun is that Israel’s
\nGod? <\/p>\n

842
\n00:46:14,300 –> 00:46:19,100
\nIs that your guard set mine?
\nBecause that is who our God is. <\/p>\n

843
\n00:46:19,100 –> 00:46:22,500
\nIf Satan is anything other than
\nthis, why would God into the <\/p>\n

844
\n00:46:22,500 –> 00:46:24,500
\nBaza?
\nHey, why don’t you mess around <\/p>\n

845
\n00:46:24,500 –> 00:46:26,800
\nwith him and see what happens?
\nWhy would God do that? <\/p>\n

846
\n00:46:28,200 –> 00:46:31,500
\nGod is Not capricious.
\nThe Greek gods certainly are <\/p>\n

847
\n00:46:31,700 –> 00:46:34,000
\nthose stories but our God, the
\ntrue God. <\/p>\n

848
\n00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:36,600
\nThe one God is Not capricious
\nand not only is he not <\/p>\n

849
\n00:46:36,600 –> 00:46:38,900
\ncapricious.
\nIt is not his desire that any <\/p>\n

850
\n00:46:38,900 –> 00:46:44,200
\nshould perish and so only then
\ncan we see that the battery is <\/p>\n

851
\n00:46:44,200 –> 00:46:49,200
\nactually key to God, convicting
\neliphaz bildad and zophar and <\/p>\n

852
\n00:46:49,200 –> 00:46:51,700
\nthrough their conviction, saving
\nthem. <\/p>\n

853
\n00:46:52,600 –> 00:46:54,600
\nRight.
\nGod, enters the battle with <\/p>\n

854
\n00:46:54,600 –> 00:46:58,100
\nSatan in order to save him.
\nIt’s an act of Salvation. <\/p>\n

855
\n00:46:58,400 –> 00:47:01,700
\nAnd by being an act of
\nSalvation, you do understand <\/p>\n

856
\n00:47:01,700 –> 00:47:05,600
\nwhy, our God would get involved
\nwithout it being an act of <\/p>\n

857
\n00:47:05,600 –> 00:47:08,400
\nSalvation.
\nWithout this being Satan who <\/p>\n

858
\n00:47:08,400 –> 00:47:11,700
\nsaved, why would God mess around
\nin any of this way. <\/p>\n

859
\n00:47:11,700 –> 00:47:15,500
\nThis is a capricious act,
\notherwise, unless Satan is saved<\/p>\n

860
\n00:47:15,500 –> 00:47:18,900
\nby the book.
\nBarter it serves no purpose of <\/p>\n

861
\n00:47:18,900 –> 00:47:21,500
\nSalvation.
\nJoe was already righteous, <\/p>\n

862
\n00:47:21,500 –> 00:47:23,300
\nthat’s not to say Joe.
\nAnd changed by The Experience <\/p>\n

863
\n00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:26,600
\nbecause he is and God would not
\nhave had any part of it. <\/p>\n

864
\n00:47:26,600 –> 00:47:29,800
\nI suggest you I don’t do a good
\njob of. <\/p>\n

865
\n00:47:30,200 –> 00:47:32,000
\nI know it’s hard to articulate
\nthat thought both. <\/p>\n

866
\n00:47:32,000 –> 00:47:34,400
\nI think it very clearly and
\nspeak it very unclearly. <\/p>\n

867
\n00:47:34,400 –> 00:47:37,500
\nSo hopefully you can kind of
\nuntangle the mess of the words. <\/p>\n

868
\n00:47:38,400 –> 00:47:40,100
\nAnd so this is our last slide
\nfor today. <\/p>\n

869
\n00:47:40,500 –> 00:47:43,100
\nWhat are the implications?
\nIf we find that theory <\/p>\n

870
\n00:47:43,100 –> 00:47:47,100
\nacceptable, what are the
\nimplications of Satan being the <\/p>\n

871
\n00:47:47,100 –> 00:47:49,300
\nheart of man for our ongoing
\nstudies in job? <\/p>\n

872
\n00:47:49,300 –> 00:47:52,200
\nI find three first of all, satan
\ndoes not. <\/p>\n

873
\n00:47:52,300 –> 00:47:54,400
\nDisappear from the text.
\nThat’s just the point of <\/p>\n

874
\n00:47:54,400 –> 00:47:55,600
\nInterest, more than anything
\nelse. <\/p>\n

875
\n00:47:55,800 –> 00:47:59,100
\nIt means he’s there all the way
\nthrough the whole book. <\/p>\n

876
\n00:47:59,300 –> 00:48:01,600
\nHas a righteous man in it, and
\nit’s got Satan in it. <\/p>\n

877
\n00:48:02,000 –> 00:48:04,400
\nIt’s that conflict.
\nIt becomes a very, very <\/p>\n

878
\n00:48:04,400 –> 00:48:07,000
\ndifferent book.
\nNow, if Satan just shows up in <\/p>\n

879
\n00:48:07,000 –> 00:48:09,100
\nChapter 2 and then goes off for
\na cappuccino, never comes back. <\/p>\n

880
\n00:48:10,400 –> 00:48:12,200
\nWhy on Earth?
\nDo we have 20 chapters of Jobe? <\/p>\n

881
\n00:48:12,200 –> 00:48:14,100
\nBickering with three other guys?
\nWhat’s the point? <\/p>\n

882
\n00:48:14,400 –> 00:48:17,500
\nAll right, it means the core of
\nthe book. <\/p>\n

883
\n00:48:17,500 –> 00:48:19,800
\nThat’s the point.
\nI just said, actually Joe versus<\/p>\n

884
\n00:48:19,800 –> 00:48:22,600
\nhis three friends or amidst his
\nthree friends become Highly <\/p>\n

885
\n00:48:22,600 –> 00:48:26,700
\nrelevant to our study of the
\nBook of Job and most importantly<\/p>\n

886
\n00:48:26,700 –> 00:48:30,300
\nof all the core of the book.
\nIt disappears off the bottom, <\/p>\n

887
\n00:48:30,300 –> 00:48:32,800
\nI’m sorry.
\nThe core of the book is now <\/p>\n

888
\n00:48:32,800 –> 00:48:35,700
\nhighly relevant to my life.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

889
\n00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:39,500
\nBecause jobs experience, as
\nrecorded in the Book of Job is <\/p>\n

890
\n00:48:39,500 –> 00:48:42,500
\nnow the same as mine.
\nNo, I haven’t lost all my <\/p>\n

891
\n00:48:42,500 –> 00:48:44,500
\nchildren.
\nI haven’t been Afflicted in the <\/p>\n

892
\n00:48:44,500 –> 00:48:50,000
\nway Joe was, but I do spend
\nevery single day wrestling with <\/p>\n

893
\n00:48:50,000 –> 00:48:53,100
\nSatan.
\nThis Satan, it’s the Same Satan <\/p>\n

894
\n00:48:53,100 –> 00:48:56,100
\nthat Joe Brussels with.
\nI can get up at 6:00 in the <\/p>\n

895
\n00:48:56,100 –> 00:49:01,400
\nmorning and by 06:01 at the
\nlatest the battle is once again <\/p>\n

896
\n00:49:01,400 –> 00:49:05,800
\nin joined and he’s up and he’s
\nawake and he’s suggesting all <\/p>\n

897
\n00:49:05,800 –> 00:49:09,900
\nsorts of very desirable things.
\nTo me, none of which are in <\/p>\n

898
\n00:49:09,900 –> 00:49:15,600
\naccord with my father’s will
\nSatan enters and he is a very <\/p>\n

899
\n00:49:15,600 –> 00:49:19,300
\npermanent presence in my life
\nand I suggest to you, he is a <\/p>\n

900
\n00:49:19,300 –> 00:49:23,300
\nvery permanent presence in the
\nBook of Job and that’s what <\/p>\n

901
\n00:49:23,300 –> 00:49:26,400
\nmakes this.
\nA wonderful and beautiful book. <\/p>\n

902
\n00:49:33,900 –> 00:49:36,600
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\ngood Christophe intox podcast. <\/p>\n

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\n00:49:37,100 –> 00:49:39,500
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\n00:49:51,000 –> 00:49:54,000
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\n00:49:54,000 –> 00:49:57,500
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\n00:50:20,000 –> 00:50:22,000
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