{"id":375,"date":"2019-06-18T20:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-06-18T20:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/037-philip-davidson-depression-and-discipleship\/"},"modified":"2026-07-17T01:49:45","modified_gmt":"2026-07-17T01:49:45","slug":"037-philip-davidson-depression-and-discipleship","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/037-philip-davidson-depression-and-discipleship\/","title":{"rendered":"037: Philip Davidson – Depression and Discipleship"},"content":{"rendered":"

Today we are listening to a talk by Bro. Philip Davidson that was a lecture at Enfield, Australia in 2016 on Depression and Discipleship.<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to the good Christian
\ntalks podcast. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi and I’m Chris.
\nThank you so much for joining us<\/p>\n

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\nthis week on this podcast.
\nWe select one taco week to help <\/p>\n

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\nweek for you to listen. <\/p>\n

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\nWith a short intro before hand
\nto kind of set the stage for the<\/p>\n

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\ntalk.
\nYou’re about to hear and now <\/p>\n

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\nlet’s hear more about this
\nweek’s talk. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week’s classes by Brother
\nPhilip Davidson. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s called depression and
\ndiscipleship. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is a fantastic class of
\nrather. <\/p>\n

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\nPhilip is a doctor.
\nHe called himself a rural doctor<\/p>\n

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\nin Australia, and he does a
\nreally good job detailing kind <\/p>\n

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\nof the specific diagnosis of
\nmajor depression, which was <\/p>\n

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\nreally helpful for me as someone
\nwho obviously has been affected <\/p>\n

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\nby depression in my in my life
\nas I think all they all have. <\/p>\n

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\nBye.
\nOurselves our loved ones and it <\/p>\n

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\nwas just really helpful to hear
\nhim kind of detail it and an <\/p>\n

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\nunderstandable way and then
\nrelate how we as disciples can <\/p>\n

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\ndeal with it in ourselves or
\nhelp others and in our <\/p>\n

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\ncommunities and in our colleges,
\nso this is a excellent excellent<\/p>\n

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\nclass really excited to share it
\nwith you. <\/p>\n

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\nSo we’ll jump right into it.
\nThis is Well, I think we’re <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to leave the there’s a
\nreading at the beginning of <\/p>\n

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\nIsaiah 35.
\nSo we’re leaving that as well as<\/p>\n

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\nthe intro to the class by
\nBrother Jason bovis. <\/p>\n

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\nSo the first voice you’ll hear
\nis brother Jason’s doing an <\/p>\n

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\nintro to the class.
\nWe’re going to keep all that in <\/p>\n

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\nthe in the talk.
\nSo here we go. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is depression and
\ndiscipleship by Brother Philip <\/p>\n

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\nDavidson.
\nGood evening brothers and <\/p>\n

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\nsisters in young people.
\nAs the Apostle Paul spread the <\/p>\n

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\ngood news of the gospel of grace
\nunto the Gentiles as we read <\/p>\n

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\nabout in the book of Acts.
\nWe learned that he was <\/p>\n

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\npersecuted by a group of Jews
\nand not only did they reject the<\/p>\n

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\nmessage of Paul for themselves,
\nbut they also tried to prevent <\/p>\n

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\nothers from believing it as
\nwell. <\/p>\n

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\nThe hatred of the Jews reached
\nsuch a crescendo and Lister that<\/p>\n

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\nthey stoned Paul and they
\ndragged him out of the city <\/p>\n

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\nsupposing him to be dead.
\nIt wasn’t until the disciples <\/p>\n

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\ngathered around him.
\nHe rose up and went into the <\/p>\n

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\ncity in the next day.
\nHe departed with Barnabas to <\/p>\n

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\nDerby.
\nIt was at Derby that he made the<\/p>\n

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\ndecision to return to the cities
\nthat he visited to lystra <\/p>\n

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\nIconium and to Antioch and he
\nhad one critical message. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that message was we must
\nthrough many tribulations enter <\/p>\n

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\nthe kingdom of God and so it is
\nbrothers and sisters that we met<\/p>\n

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\nintellectually understand that
\nfollowing the steps of the Lord <\/p>\n

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\nJesus Christ means that we have
\nto suffer with him. <\/p>\n

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\nBut sometimes the reality of
\nthat emotionally flattens us <\/p>\n

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\nsometimes life this side of the
\nKingdom depresses us and so this<\/p>\n

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\nevening.
\nWe are privileged to share <\/p>\n

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\nbrother Phil Davidson’s study
\nwith us from the Victor Harbor <\/p>\n

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\nEcclesia to share some thoughts
\nof his around the theme <\/p>\n

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\ndepression and discipleship.
\nTo prepare our minds for brother<\/p>\n

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\nfeels words this evening.
\nWe will call upon brother Shem <\/p>\n

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\nJameson to read Isaiah chapter
\n53 chapter 35 the Wilderness and<\/p>\n

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\nthe solitary Place shall be glad
\nfor them and the desert shall <\/p>\n

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\nrejoice and Blossom as the rose
\nit shall Blossom abundantly and <\/p>\n

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\nrejoice even with joy and
\nsinging The Glory of Lebanon <\/p>\n

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\nshall be given unto it the
\nExcellency of Carmel and Sharon.<\/p>\n

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\nThey shall see the glory of
\nYahweh and the Excellency of our<\/p>\n

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\nGod.
\nStrengthen you the weekends and <\/p>\n

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\nconfirm the feeble knees say to
\nthem that are of a fearful heart<\/p>\n

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\nbe strong fear.
\nNot behold. <\/p>\n

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\nYour God will come with
\nvengeance even god with a <\/p>\n

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\nrecompense.
\nHe will come and save you then <\/p>\n

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\nthe eyes of the blind shall be
\nopened and the ears of the deaf <\/p>\n

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\nshall be unstopped then shall
\nthe lame man leap as in heart <\/p>\n

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\nand the tongue of the dumb sing
\nfor in the wilderness. <\/p>\n

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\nHave Waters break out and
\nstreams in the desert. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the parched ground shall
\nbecome a pool and the Thirsty <\/p>\n

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\nland Springs of water in the
\nhabitation of dragons where each<\/p>\n

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\nlay shall be grass with reeds
\nand rushes. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd in Highway shall be there
\nand a way and it shall be called<\/p>\n

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\nthe way of Holiness the unclean
\nshall not pass over it but it <\/p>\n

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\nshall be for those the wayfaring
\nman. <\/p>\n

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\nThose fools shall not enter
\ntherein. <\/p>\n

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\nNo lion, shall be there.
\nNot any ravenous beasts shall go<\/p>\n

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\nup there on it.
\nShall not be found there, but <\/p>\n

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\nthe redeemed shall walk there.
\nAnd The Ransom of Yahweh shall <\/p>\n

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\nreturn and come to Zion with
\nsongs in Everlasting Joy upon <\/p>\n

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\ntheir heads.
\nThey shall obtain joy and <\/p>\n

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\ngladness and sorrow and sighing
\nshall flee away. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I would like to call Brother
\nPhil Davidson for to speak to <\/p>\n

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\nthe topic depression and
\ndiscipleship. thank you, brother<\/p>\n

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\nJason and good evening, my dear
\nbrothers and sisters and and <\/p>\n

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\nyoung people brother Jason
\nIsaiah 53 would have been a very<\/p>\n

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\nappropriate reading also and and
\nin fact, we will be returning <\/p>\n

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\nthere at later on this evening
\nsister Susan and I bring with us<\/p>\n

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\nthe the loving greetings of your
\nbrothers and sisters who meet in<\/p>\n

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\nthe in Victor Harbor of thank
\nyou for inviting me to be here <\/p>\n

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\nthe Evening depression and
\ndiscipleship is a is an unusual <\/p>\n

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\ntopic for a Bible class, isn’t
\nit? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s certainly not something
\nthat we would normally consider <\/p>\n

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\nthat we would discuss and think
\nabout with our Bible classes. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I do appreciate the
\nopportunity to come and share <\/p>\n

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\nsome thoughts with you
\ndepression is a very common <\/p>\n

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\nproblem, but it’s also a problem
\nwhich historically has not been <\/p>\n

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\nwell understood within the
\nBrotherhood and that purely <\/p>\n

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\nreflects the fact that
\ndepression hasn’t really been <\/p>\n

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\nvery well understood in The
\nWider Community either but it’s <\/p>\n

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\na very common problem.
\nIt’s certainly a problem that <\/p>\n

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\nhas significantly affected my
\nfamily and I’m sure that there <\/p>\n

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\nwould be a number of us here
\nthis evening who have had <\/p>\n

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\nstruggles with depression and
\nI’m sure that all of us would <\/p>\n

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\nknow somebody in that situation
\nI certainly don’t profess to <\/p>\n

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\nhave all the answers not by any
\nstretch of the imagination. <\/p>\n

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\nBut what I’m hoping we can do
\nthis evening is to have a look <\/p>\n

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\nat some of the principles
\ntogether what depression is how <\/p>\n

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\ndepression may affect our life
\nin the truth how it may affect <\/p>\n

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\nother people’s lives and some of
\nthe things that can be done to <\/p>\n

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\ntry to assist ourselves or
\nothers who have problems with <\/p>\n

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\ndepression.
\nFor those of you who don’t know <\/p>\n

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\nme particularly over the last 22
\nyears. <\/p>\n

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\nI’ve been a rural general
\npractitioner and for the last 12<\/p>\n

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\nof those years that’s been Down
\nin go over I deliver babies at <\/p>\n

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\nthe Victor Harbor Hospital.
\nI visit 290 bed nursing homes <\/p>\n

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\nevery week in Gula and my
\npracticing Google makes me deal <\/p>\n

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\nwith all sorts of different
\nclinical problems from newborn <\/p>\n

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\nbabies right through to the
\nother end of life, and it would <\/p>\n

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\nbe an incredibly unusual day
\nthat I wouldn’t have to deal <\/p>\n

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\nwith the problem of Of
\ndepression and so it is it is <\/p>\n

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\nsomething that is incredibly
\ncommon and it’s a difficult and <\/p>\n

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\nand a challenging area.
\nSo let’s let’s start to examine <\/p>\n

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\nthe subject together.
\nNow poor old Eeyore isn’t <\/p>\n

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\nlooking very happy there and
\nthen your is never particularly <\/p>\n

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\nhappy.
\nAll of us have felt like Eeyore.<\/p>\n

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\nWhen the Elohim created Adam in
\ntheir image and likeness, he was<\/p>\n

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\ncreated to be able to have an
\nemotion to be able to respond to<\/p>\n

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\nhis heavenly father in an
\nemotional way life would be <\/p>\n

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\nincredibly Bland incredibly
\nsterile if we weren’t able to <\/p>\n

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\nexpress emotion to be able to
\nlaugh. <\/p>\n

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\nTo be able to cry. to be able to
\nempathize with each other to be <\/p>\n

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\nable to feel so feeling sad is
\ncompletely normal. <\/p>\n

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\nIt would be horrible if we
\nweren’t able to grieve over the <\/p>\n

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\nloss of someone close to us.
\nSo all of us have felt like <\/p>\n

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\nEeyore.
\nAll of us have felt depressed. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s normal. so then what
\nwhat actually am I talking about<\/p>\n

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\nwhen it comes to the topic of
\ndepression and discipleship <\/p>\n

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\nwell, Depression or clinically
\nas it’s better known major <\/p>\n

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\ndepression is a lot more than
\njust a low mood. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s an illness.
\nSo as we’ve said we all feel sad<\/p>\n

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\nor Moody at times at some people
\nexperience those emotions very <\/p>\n

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\nintensely and for long periods
\nof time and often without any <\/p>\n

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\nobvious reason for it.
\nIt’s very important for us to <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand right at the outset
\nthat the brain is an organ of <\/p>\n

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\nthe body.
\nThe brain is the body rather is <\/p>\n

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\nmade up of all sorts of
\ndifferent organs. <\/p>\n

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\nThe largest one in the most
\nvisible as the spin but there’s <\/p>\n

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\nthe heart the lungs the liver
\nthe intestine. <\/p>\n

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\nThey’re all different organs and
\nthe brain is an organ. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a very special organ of the
\nbody. <\/p>\n

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\nWe still don’t really understand
\nhow it works in many ways, but <\/p>\n

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\nit is a physical part of us.
\nAnd all organs of the body can <\/p>\n

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\ndevelop illnesses and not
\nfunction properly and the brain <\/p>\n

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\nis no different to that the
\nbrain can experience an illness.<\/p>\n

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\nIt can experience many illnesses
\njust like any other organ of the<\/p>\n

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\nbody you can develop skin
\ncancer. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can develop high blood
\npressure. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can develop chronic
\nobstructive pulmonary disease or<\/p>\n

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\nemphysema.
\nAll different organs of the body<\/p>\n

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\ncan have different illnesses.
\nThe brain is no different. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat is very different about
\nillnesses of the brain though is<\/p>\n

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\nthat if I was to fall down those
\nstairs afterwards and break my <\/p>\n

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\nleg.
\nI would be able to use my brain <\/p>\n

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\nto work out that well that that
\nhad happened. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m not going to drive home.
\nI’m going to have to ring up and<\/p>\n

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\ncancel appointments tomorrow.
\nI’ll be able to talk to a doctor<\/p>\n

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\nthat looks after me and know
\nexactly what sort of treatments <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to be required in short.
\nIt’s my brain that helps me to <\/p>\n

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\ncope with that sudden
\ndifficulty. <\/p>\n

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\nIf I suddenly developed bowel
\ncancer, it’s my brain that helps<\/p>\n

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\nme to cope with that.
\nWhat makes mental illness so <\/p>\n

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\nmuch more difficult is that as
\nthe organ of the body that we <\/p>\n

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\nuse to cope that has the problem
\nthat’s not working properly and <\/p>\n

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\nthat that really does make
\nmental illness are far more <\/p>\n

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\ndifficult proposition to suffer
\nand to help somebody with so <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s a really fundamental
\npoint that I’d like us all to <\/p>\n

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\nremember.
\nSo if I’ve said that sadness is <\/p>\n

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\nnormal and major depression is
\nabnormal. <\/p>\n

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\nHow do we how do we
\ndifferentiate because it’s <\/p>\n

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\nactually very difficult because
\nthe symptoms are very similar <\/p>\n

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\nbut it is different firstly the
\nseverity of the low mood the <\/p>\n

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\nsadness.
\nOne way that I used to determine<\/p>\n

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\nwhether somebody that I’m
\ntalking to is suffering from <\/p>\n

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\nmajor depression is after 15
\nminutes of talking to that <\/p>\n

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\nperson.
\nAm I feeling sad myself because <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone with proper depression
\njust emanates that that mood and<\/p>\n

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\nand you get almost get sucked
\ninto it as well. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s really quite a significant
\nthing. <\/p>\n

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\nClinically, we feel that someone
\nhas to have a depressed mood for<\/p>\n

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\nat least two weeks solid to be
\nconsidered to be potentially <\/p>\n

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\nsuffering from the illness of
\nmajor depression. <\/p>\n

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\nSo yeah, we all have bad days
\nthat that’s normal. <\/p>\n

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\nWe you know, many of us might,
\nyou know, either figuratively or<\/p>\n

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\nliterally cry ourselves to
\nsleep. <\/p>\n

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\nThat doesn’t mean that we’ve got
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

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\nBut if you feel like that the
\nassistant Lee for two weeks Then<\/p>\n

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\nit’s certainly a possibility.
\nAnd there are characteristic <\/p>\n

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\nsymptoms of depression that also
\nare associated with the <\/p>\n

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\ncondition and we’re just going
\nto run through those symptoms <\/p>\n

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\nnow to just to build up a
\nclearer picture of what it is <\/p>\n

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\nthat depression is so obviously
\nI’m markedly depressed mood <\/p>\n

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\nWinston Churchill called it the
\nblack dog. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is a really interesting way
\nof describing. <\/p>\n

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\nThe the real darkness of the
\nmood that someone with <\/p>\n

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\ndepression has so they
\ncompletely lose all interest and<\/p>\n

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\nenjoyment.
\nSo someone who previously has <\/p>\n

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\nreally enjoyed perhaps you are
\ngetting down into the shed and <\/p>\n

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\ndoing would work suddenly.
\nIt doesn’t interest them <\/p>\n

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\nanymore.
\nThey just don’t get that same <\/p>\n

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\nlevel of enjoyment or
\nsatisfaction from things that <\/p>\n

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\nthey used to there’s a
\nsignificantly reduced <\/p>\n

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\nself-esteem and self-confidence.
\nNow we know that we are supposed<\/p>\n

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\nto be meek we supposed to be
\ngentle. <\/p>\n

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\nBut it’s also in an innate part
\nof us the way that God has <\/p>\n

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\ncreated us that we do have a
\nsense of self-worth that we’re <\/p>\n

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\nnot worthless.
\nSomeone with depression feels <\/p>\n

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\nworthless.
\nThey often also feel very guilty<\/p>\n

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\nover things that really they
\nshouldn’t necessarily feel <\/p>\n

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\nguilty about it all and are
\nunable to be reassured that they<\/p>\n

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\nwill not respond to the normal.
\nYou know, that that’s okay. <\/p>\n

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\nYou didn’t really mean that or
\nyeah that it’s just again this <\/p>\n

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\nthis unnatural depth of emotions
\nthat we all experience and that <\/p>\n

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\nagain, it’s what it makes it.
\nIt makes it difficult. <\/p>\n

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\nThese are all things that we all
\nexperience. ins but someone with<\/p>\n

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\na mental illness of major
\ndepression experience these <\/p>\n

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\nthings in a very unnatural very
\nnot normal way and in a way that<\/p>\n

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\nthose of us who never have
\nexperienced depression find it <\/p>\n

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\nreally hard to understand or to
\nrelate to so there’s no very <\/p>\n

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\nBleak very pessimistic views of
\nthe future no light at the end <\/p>\n

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\nof the tunnel.
\nSo to speak just a feeling of No<\/p>\n

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\nWay Out This is where we start
\nto get really serious. <\/p>\n

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\nI actually read yesterday.
\nIt was in the media that that <\/p>\n

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\nsuicide is the most common form
\nof death in Australia in all <\/p>\n

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\npeople under the age of 44.
\nseven a day in Australia That’s <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s horrible, isn’t it?
\nWe all we all know that breast <\/p>\n

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\ncancer lung cancer can be fatal.
\nWe need to understand that major<\/p>\n

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\ndepression can also be fatal?
\nIf someone feels worthless. <\/p>\n

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\nIf someone is wrapped with guilt
\nif someone can see no, hope for <\/p>\n

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\nthe future. if someone hates
\nthemself Then it’s actually <\/p>\n

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\nnatural to think about not being
\naround anymore. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a natural consequence of
\nthinking abnormally like that <\/p>\n

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\nwhen you’ve got an organ that’s
\nworking. <\/p>\n

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\nAbnormally that has an illness.
\nSometimes physical pain can be <\/p>\n

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\neasier to cope with than the
\ntype of mental anguish that <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone with severe depression
\nexperiences. <\/p>\n

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\nSo acts of self-harm are
\nincredibly common particularly <\/p>\n

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\nin younger people with
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s not it’s not crazy.
\nIt’s what somebody does when <\/p>\n

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\nthey are suffering this type of
\nan illness. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a symptom of the illness
\njust like shortness of breath is<\/p>\n

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\na symptom of pneumonia.
\nThese feelings are symptoms of <\/p>\n

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\ndepression.
\nDisturbed sleep is very common <\/p>\n

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\neither difficulty falling off to
\nsleep or something called early <\/p>\n

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\nmorning wakening someone with
\ndepression often wakes up at <\/p>\n

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\nabout three o’clock in the
\nmorning regularly and is unable <\/p>\n

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\nto get back off to sleep and
\nthat in the right context is <\/p>\n

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\nactually a fairly specific
\nsymptom of depression. <\/p>\n

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\nDisturbed appetite usually poor
\nappetite occasionally overeating<\/p>\n

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\nbut that again is a very common
\nsymptom of this illness. <\/p>\n

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\nA decreased libido and that’s
\ncertainly something that we <\/p>\n

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\ndon’t often talk about with each
\nother. <\/p>\n

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\nBut again, it can have an
\nextremely detrimental effect on <\/p>\n

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\nsomebody’s well-being and a very
\ndetrimental effect as far as a <\/p>\n

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\nmarriage relationship is
\nconcerned. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s a decrease energy
\ndecreased activity levels. <\/p>\n

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\nReduce concentration of that
\nthat is very common their <\/p>\n

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\nability to sit down and take
\nthings in can be severely <\/p>\n

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\ncompromised and a decrease in
\nmemory. <\/p>\n

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\nDiana mood variation that’s a
\njust a fancy way of saying that <\/p>\n

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\npeople with major depression
\nusually feel much worse in the <\/p>\n

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\nmorning.
\nSo mornings tend to be the <\/p>\n

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\nhardest time for somebody with
\nsignificant depression. <\/p>\n

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\nSomeone with severe depression
\ncan start to hallucinate or have<\/p>\n

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\ndelusions and that’s that’s what
\nthe word psychosis means someone<\/p>\n

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\nwho’s having psychotic symptoms
\neither sees things or hears <\/p>\n

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\nthings that aren’t really there
\nor they have a very fixed <\/p>\n

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\nabnormal belief or a delusion.
\nIt’s also very necessary to <\/p>\n

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\nremember that not everybody with
\ndepression will experience all <\/p>\n

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\nof these symptoms.
\nSome of them will be a lot more <\/p>\n

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\nsignificant than others.
\nSome of them might be there at <\/p>\n

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\nall.
\nI’d be individual variation as <\/p>\n

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\nwith all things to do with with
\nour human existence. <\/p>\n

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\nNo two of us are the same and
\nthat certainly applies for <\/p>\n

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\ndepression.
\nNow other things can cause the <\/p>\n

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\nsame sort of symptoms and that
\nthat’s worth obviously bearing <\/p>\n

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\nin mind.
\nSo an underactive thyroid gland <\/p>\n

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\ncan make you feel lethargic.
\nIt can affect your appetite your<\/p>\n

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\nsleep.
\nAnd so that’s a very important <\/p>\n

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\nthing for our for a doctor to
\ncheck in someone who’s <\/p>\n

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\npresenting with symptoms of
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

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\nAn infectious disease like
\nglandular fever for example can <\/p>\n

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\npresent with many of those
\nsymptoms certain medications and<\/p>\n

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\ncertainly certain illicit drugs
\ncan also cause symptoms over a <\/p>\n

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\nperiod of time very similar to
\nwhat we see in depression. <\/p>\n

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\nBereavement is certainly a
\nsituation that we all go through<\/p>\n

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\nas as life goes on we tend to
\nexperience bereavement more <\/p>\n

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\noften as our as our parents and
\nthen our friends and siblings <\/p>\n

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\nstart to pass away and
\nbereavement can certainly cause <\/p>\n

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\nincredibly intense feelings of
\nsadness and grief, but that’s <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s normal.
\nIt’s a normal human emotion. <\/p>\n

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\nBereavement can become abnormal
\nwe can go on too long. <\/p>\n

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\nIt can itself be a one of the
\ncauses of a depressive Illness <\/p>\n

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\nbut in itself, that’s a very
\nnormal thing. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd there are other mental
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\nlike depression schizophrenia is
\nwhere psychotic symptoms are. <\/p>\n

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\nUsually really quite prominent.
\nIt’s a disordered problem with <\/p>\n

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\nwith cognition or thinking
\nBipolar disorder is not is often<\/p>\n

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\nassociated with incredibly
\nintense periods of depression, <\/p>\n

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\nbut also usually counterbalanced
\nat other times of the person’s <\/p>\n

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\nlife with what’s called hyper
\nMania or or in it’s more severe <\/p>\n

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\nform Mania where someone becomes
\nthe opposite of depressed. <\/p>\n

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\nThey become incredibly confident
\nsometimes little bit irritable, <\/p>\n

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\nbut very confident they can
\noverspend they do things that <\/p>\n

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\nthey wouldn’t normally do they
\nlack the usual constraints <\/p>\n

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\nbecause again, their brain isn’t
\nworking properly the frontal <\/p>\n

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\nlobe which normally keeps us
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\nsocially is no longer working as
\nit should and someone bipolar <\/p>\n

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\ndisorder has this really very
\ndifficult interrelationship <\/p>\n

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\nbetween depression and hypomania
\nobsessive compulsive disorder is<\/p>\n

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\na very real Mental illness also
\nsomeone suffering that illness <\/p>\n

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\noften has compulsions to perform
\nactivities over and over again <\/p>\n

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\nor they have obsessions and
\nthoughts worries about their <\/p>\n

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\nhealth or other factors that can
\nbecome very distressing and very<\/p>\n

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\ndebilitating and because of that
\ndistress that person can present<\/p>\n

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\nwith depression depressed
\nthoughts. <\/p>\n

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\nAnxiety disorders also are
\nalmost always associated with <\/p>\n

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\nsome depressive thoughts as most
\ndepressive illnesses have an <\/p>\n

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\naspect of anxiety associated
\nwith them, too. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd a really important one to
\nremember is dementia dementia <\/p>\n

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\nand depression in an older
\nperson can be incredibly similar<\/p>\n

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\n00:25:06,500 –> 00:25:14,400
\nvery very similar and one of the
\nkey things for a health worker <\/p>\n

335
\n00:25:14,400 –> 00:25:18,200
\nto be aware of is the fact that
\nan older person who appears to <\/p>\n

336
\n00:25:18,200 –> 00:25:22,200
\nbe presenting with dementia, May
\nin fact be depressed. <\/p>\n

337
\n00:25:23,000 –> 00:25:27,600
\nLike last year, I saw a patient
\nfor the first time. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:25:27,600 –> 00:25:32,000
\nHe was in his early 80s.
\nHe was having significant <\/p>\n

339
\n00:25:32,000 –> 00:25:36,800
\nproblems with memory and and as
\nsuch I did what we call a <\/p>\n

340
\n00:25:36,808 –> 00:25:40,400
\ndementia screen various
\ninvestigations got him back <\/p>\n

341
\n00:25:40,400 –> 00:25:44,600
\nafter that and it was that
\nsecond visit that the the penny <\/p>\n

342
\n00:25:44,600 –> 00:25:48,500
\ndropped a bit that a lot of his
\nconversation was incredibly <\/p>\n

343
\n00:25:48,500 –> 00:25:54,100
\ndepressed.
\nHe was ruminating on An illness <\/p>\n

344
\n00:25:54,100 –> 00:25:56,500
\nthat his wife had and she
\nactually got over that illness. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:25:56,900 –> 00:26:00,900
\nThere was just something that
\nsuddenly struck me that this <\/p>\n

346
\n00:26:00,900 –> 00:26:04,500
\nperson may be depressed.
\nWe do something called a mini <\/p>\n

347
\n00:26:04,500 –> 00:26:07,700
\nmental state test to diagnose
\ndementia and this this chap <\/p>\n

348
\n00:26:07,700 –> 00:26:12,100
\nscored 17 out of 30, which is
\nreally quite significantly <\/p>\n

349
\n00:26:12,400 –> 00:26:17,800
\nabnormal.
\nHe accepted the the idea of <\/p>\n

350
\n00:26:17,800 –> 00:26:22,200
\ngoing on to an antidepressant
\nmedication for weeks later. <\/p>\n

351
\n00:26:22,200 –> 00:26:28,500
\nHe came back into my room scored
\n28 out of 30 and his wife said <\/p>\n

352
\n00:26:28,500 –> 00:26:33,300
\nthat she and her children felt
\nthat she had a husband and they <\/p>\n

353
\n00:26:33,300 –> 00:26:39,100
\nhad have bear father back. so
\nthat was a very clear example <\/p>\n

354
\n00:26:39,500 –> 00:26:43,000
\njust in my experience in the
\nlast six months of someone who <\/p>\n

355
\n00:26:43,000 –> 00:26:46,700
\npresented to all intents and
\npurposes as having dementia, but<\/p>\n

356
\n00:26:46,700 –> 00:26:53,600
\nwho when treated for depression
\nregained Wellness So how common <\/p>\n

357
\n00:26:53,600 –> 00:26:57,900
\nis this condition depression
\nquite remarkably, it’s estimated<\/p>\n

358
\n00:26:57,900 –> 00:27:02,200
\nthat between 20 and 25% of us
\nwill experience depression at <\/p>\n

359
\n00:27:02,200 –> 00:27:08,300
\nsome stage in our lives.
\nIt can occur at any age and <\/p>\n

360
\n00:27:08,300 –> 00:27:13,100
\napproximately one in 20 of us
\nwill experience an episode of <\/p>\n

361
\n00:27:13,100 –> 00:27:18,200
\ndepression sufficient to
\nsignificantly affect our ability<\/p>\n

362
\n00:27:18,200 –> 00:27:23,500
\nto conduct our day-to-day lives.
\nSo that’s that’s common. <\/p>\n

363
\n00:27:23,600 –> 00:27:25,800
\nIsn’t it?
\nObviously very common. <\/p>\n

364
\n00:27:28,000 –> 00:27:32,000
\nWhat causes it?
\nI’ve said that this is a proper <\/p>\n

365
\n00:27:32,200 –> 00:27:36,700
\nphysical illness before you
\nknow, what do we know about what<\/p>\n

366
\n00:27:36,700 –> 00:27:40,800
\ncauses depression?
\nI like and depression a little <\/p>\n

367
\n00:27:40,800 –> 00:27:44,900
\nbit in this regard to diabetes
\ndiabetes is something that we <\/p>\n

368
\n00:27:44,900 –> 00:27:48,500
\nall obviously except as being a
\nproper physical illness. <\/p>\n

369
\n00:27:49,600 –> 00:27:54,000
\nSomeone with diabetes is more
\nlikely to have that because one <\/p>\n

370
\n00:27:54,000 –> 00:27:56,900
\nor more of their parents or
\nrelatives have diabetes. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:27:56,900 –> 00:28:00,000
\nThere’s a genetic aspect to
\ndiabetes. <\/p>\n

372
\n00:28:00,900 –> 00:28:03,000
\nThere are lifestyle aspects to
\ndiabetes. <\/p>\n

373
\n00:28:03,000 –> 00:28:06,200
\nIf someone is overweight,
\nthey’re more likely to develop <\/p>\n

374
\n00:28:06,200 –> 00:28:11,200
\ntype 2 diabetes if they don’t
\nexercise similarly, so there are<\/p>\n

375
\n00:28:11,200 –> 00:28:15,600
\nthere are lifestyle factors.
\nAnd there are also factors that <\/p>\n

376
\n00:28:15,600 –> 00:28:18,900
\nwe don’t really know about yet
\nbecause there’s people with no <\/p>\n

377
\n00:28:18,900 –> 00:28:22,100
\nfamily history that exercise.
\nWell that are not overweight <\/p>\n

378
\n00:28:22,400 –> 00:28:25,400
\nthat still get diabetes and vice
\nversa. <\/p>\n

379
\n00:28:26,500 –> 00:28:30,400
\nDepressions very much the same
\nif you have friend, if you have <\/p>\n

380
\n00:28:30,400 –> 00:28:34,900
\nfamily that has depression then
\nyour risk yourself of developing<\/p>\n

381
\n00:28:34,900 –> 00:28:37,400
\ndepression is certainly more
\nsignificant. <\/p>\n

382
\n00:28:38,800 –> 00:28:42,400
\nThere are lifestyle factors.
\nIf you like that are also <\/p>\n

383
\n00:28:42,900 –> 00:28:45,800
\nsignificant stressful life
\nevents. <\/p>\n

384
\n00:28:46,600 –> 00:28:49,900
\nThere are certain personalities
\nof us that seemed to be a little<\/p>\n

385
\n00:28:49,900 –> 00:28:53,200
\nbit more prone to developing
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

386
\n00:28:53,500 –> 00:28:57,900
\nIf someone’s you know of a
\nquieter nature if someone tends <\/p>\n

387
\n00:28:57,900 –> 00:29:02,100
\nto be very particular about what
\nthey do tend to ruminate a lot <\/p>\n

388
\n00:29:02,100 –> 00:29:06,200
\nthat that personality style
\nperhaps is more prone to <\/p>\n

389
\n00:29:06,208 –> 00:29:14,800
\ndeveloping. action severe other
\nillness certain medications <\/p>\n

390
\n00:29:16,000 –> 00:29:20,100
\ndrugs and over use of alcohol
\nalso a risk factors for <\/p>\n

391
\n00:29:20,100 –> 00:29:24,700
\ndeveloping depression.
\nSo there are different factors <\/p>\n

392
\n00:29:24,700 –> 00:29:27,100
\nas well that can go into the
\nmix. <\/p>\n

393
\n00:29:27,600 –> 00:29:32,700
\nThere are also aspects that we
\nstill don’t understand most of <\/p>\n

394
\n00:29:32,700 –> 00:29:36,300
\nus would have heard the term a
\nchemical imbalance used in the <\/p>\n

395
\n00:29:36,300 –> 00:29:42,300
\ncontext of depression will have
\na brief look at that a little <\/p>\n

396
\n00:29:42,300 –> 00:29:47,200
\nbit closer shortly, but the fact
\nthat there are Patients that can<\/p>\n

397
\n00:29:47,200 –> 00:29:50,000
\nvary significantly assist in the
\ntreatment of depression. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:29:50,400 –> 00:29:54,700
\nThere’s also a very good
\nindicator that it is an organic <\/p>\n

399
\n00:29:54,800 –> 00:29:59,700
\nillness a real physical illness
\nand this this is one way of <\/p>\n

400
\n00:29:59,700 –> 00:30:03,000
\nsumming up I suppose what may
\ncause depression. <\/p>\n

401
\n00:30:04,000 –> 00:30:07,300
\nSo the in the management of
\nmental disorders volume one, <\/p>\n

402
\n00:30:07,300 –> 00:30:10,100
\nthat’s a few years old now, but
\nit’s still I think a good <\/p>\n

403
\n00:30:10,100 –> 00:30:13,300
\nsummary despite the lack of
\nclinical evidence about the <\/p>\n

404
\n00:30:13,300 –> 00:30:17,300
\nexact causes of depression it Is
\nreasonable to conclude that <\/p>\n

405
\n00:30:17,300 –> 00:30:21,100
\ndepression is a genetic and
\nbiological disorder that is <\/p>\n

406
\n00:30:21,100 –> 00:30:24,800
\naffected by life stress and
\npersonality style. <\/p>\n

407
\n00:30:25,300 –> 00:30:28,600
\nSo it’s multifactorial.
\nThat’s one way of putting it. <\/p>\n

408
\n00:30:31,300 –> 00:30:35,500
\nSo What treatments are available
\nIt’s amazing. <\/p>\n

409
\n00:30:35,500 –> 00:30:41,400
\nHow useful the simple Act of
\ntalking to somebody is to be <\/p>\n

410
\n00:30:41,400 –> 00:30:46,600
\nable to to unburden is
\nincredibly important and very <\/p>\n

411
\n00:30:46,600 –> 00:30:51,900
\nvery useful.
\nDifferent forms of psychotherapy<\/p>\n

412
\n00:30:51,900 –> 00:30:55,900
\ncan be useful cognitive therapy
\nis where somebody has helped to <\/p>\n

413
\n00:30:55,900 –> 00:31:00,500
\nidentify harmful ways that they
\nare thinking and to correct that<\/p>\n

414
\n00:31:00,500 –> 00:31:05,200
\npattern of thought and
\nbehavioral therapy is looking at<\/p>\n

415
\n00:31:05,200 –> 00:31:08,500
\nbehaviors that might be
\ncontributing to the depressive <\/p>\n

416
\n00:31:08,500 –> 00:31:13,800
\nillness just a just a quick
\ndifferentiation between a <\/p>\n

417
\n00:31:13,800 –> 00:31:17,700
\npsychologist and a psychiatrist
\na psychologist is someone who <\/p>\n

418
\n00:31:17,700 –> 00:31:21,300
\nhas a tertiary degree.
\nIn Psychology, obviously, <\/p>\n

419
\n00:31:21,700 –> 00:31:26,500
\nthey’re not doctors, but they
\nhave looked at the specific area<\/p>\n

420
\n00:31:26,800 –> 00:31:31,100
\nof psychology, which is helping
\nsomebody to change the way that <\/p>\n

421
\n00:31:31,100 –> 00:31:36,900
\nthey’re thinking now, I think as
\na as an organization, that’s the<\/p>\n

422
\n00:31:36,900 –> 00:31:40,000
\nwrong word.
\nBut as a as a faith, we as <\/p>\n

423
\n00:31:40,000 –> 00:31:44,900
\nchristadelphians I think have
\nsometimes had problems with <\/p>\n

424
\n00:31:45,600 –> 00:31:50,200
\npeople that might change the way
\nthat we think Now, I think it’s <\/p>\n

425
\n00:31:50,200 –> 00:31:53,700
\nactually really important that
\nwe get back then to that initial<\/p>\n

426
\n00:31:53,700 –> 00:31:56,600
\nthought of that depression
\naffecting an organ of the body. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:31:57,600 –> 00:32:03,100
\nThese people are are trained to
\nhelp with illnesses of a <\/p>\n

428
\n00:32:03,100 –> 00:32:06,100
\nparticular organ of the body.
\nNone of us worry about seeing a <\/p>\n

429
\n00:32:06,100 –> 00:32:09,100
\npodiatrist to our feet.
\nYou know, we don’t tend to be <\/p>\n

430
\n00:32:09,100 –> 00:32:12,100
\nconcerned that we might come to
\nsome harm because we go to a <\/p>\n

431
\n00:32:12,108 –> 00:32:15,800
\npodiatrist and I think it’s
\nimportant that we also don’t <\/p>\n

432
\n00:32:15,800 –> 00:32:18,000
\nfeel that we’re going to come to
\nany harm if we go to see a <\/p>\n

433
\n00:32:18,000 –> 00:32:22,100
\npsychologist.
\nJust because again, the brain is<\/p>\n

434
\n00:32:22,100 –> 00:32:24,200
\na part of the body just like the
\n40th. <\/p>\n

435
\n00:32:26,200 –> 00:32:31,200
\nA psychologist worth this with
\ntheir ticket is not going to try<\/p>\n

436
\n00:32:31,200 –> 00:32:33,300
\nand turn somebody away from the
\ntruth. <\/p>\n

437
\n00:32:34,400 –> 00:32:39,600
\nIf the truth provides a
\nsupportive nurturing environment<\/p>\n

438
\n00:32:39,600 –> 00:32:44,500
\nfor an individual a psychologist
\ngoing to support that and and <\/p>\n

439
\n00:32:44,500 –> 00:32:49,500
\nencourage any of this to
\nmaintain that Association. <\/p>\n

440
\n00:32:50,600 –> 00:32:53,800
\nSo suppose instead of being a
\nlittle bit wary of <\/p>\n

441
\n00:32:53,800 –> 00:32:57,100
\npsychologists.
\nWe need to be wary that. <\/p>\n

442
\n00:32:57,100 –> 00:33:02,200
\nWe are providing a supportive
\nnurturing environment and are <\/p>\n

443
\n00:33:02,200 –> 00:33:06,000
\nnot in fact part of the problem.
\nSo that that’s I think <\/p>\n

444
\n00:33:06,000 –> 00:33:09,300
\nimportant.
\nPsychologists differ from <\/p>\n

445
\n00:33:09,300 –> 00:33:13,400
\npsychiatrists psychiatrists are
\nmedical doctors who have <\/p>\n

446
\n00:33:13,400 –> 00:33:17,500
\nspecialized in Psychiatry or
\ndisorders of the brain. <\/p>\n

447
\n00:33:17,800 –> 00:33:20,200
\nSo just like a surgeon is a
\ndoctor who specialized in <\/p>\n

448
\n00:33:20,200 –> 00:33:23,600
\nsurgery or an obstetrician is a
\ndoctor who specializes in <\/p>\n

449
\n00:33:23,600 –> 00:33:28,500
\nobstetrics a psychiatrist is a
\ndoctor who specializes in mental<\/p>\n

450
\n00:33:28,500 –> 00:33:32,600
\nillness.
\nSomething called mindfulness <\/p>\n

451
\n00:33:32,600 –> 00:33:36,300
\ntraining that that can also be
\nvery useful and there are you <\/p>\n

452
\n00:33:36,300 –> 00:33:39,500
\nknow simple apps that you can
\nget for for your tablet. <\/p>\n

453
\n00:33:39,500 –> 00:33:45,400
\nFor example that can help to to
\ncalm somebody’s thinking and to <\/p>\n

454
\n00:33:45,400 –> 00:33:50,600
\nassist in a very a very
\nstraightforward way. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:33:50,600 –> 00:33:55,400
\nReally, although it’s a
\ndifficult process to master, but<\/p>\n

456
\n00:33:55,400 –> 00:34:00,900
\nit also can be very useful
\nmedications is I said before can<\/p>\n

457
\n00:34:00,900 –> 00:34:04,600
\nbe extremely useful and there’s
\na whole whole raft of them there<\/p>\n

458
\n00:34:04,600 –> 00:34:10,300
\nthat can assist people quite
\nsignificantly mild to moderate <\/p>\n

459
\n00:34:10,300 –> 00:34:13,300
\ndepression actually often
\ndoesn’t need medication <\/p>\n

460
\n00:34:13,800 –> 00:34:16,800
\nsupportive counseling and often
\ncognitive behavior. <\/p>\n

461
\n00:34:16,800 –> 00:34:20,900
\nTherapy can be all that.
\nSomebody needs moderate to <\/p>\n

462
\n00:34:20,900 –> 00:34:26,300
\nsevere depression and can be
\nhelped quite significantly with <\/p>\n

463
\n00:34:26,300 –> 00:34:29,100
\nmedication and the modern
\nmedication. <\/p>\n

464
\n00:34:29,100 –> 00:34:33,699
\nSo everything below below the
\nfirst one don’t cause over <\/p>\n

465
\n00:34:33,699 –> 00:34:39,500
\nsedation as a rule they are not
\naddictive and and generally <\/p>\n

466
\n00:34:40,500 –> 00:34:44,199
\nalthough not necessarily
\nside-effect free with a little <\/p>\n

467
\n00:34:44,199 –> 00:34:47,900
\nbit of educator trial and error.
\nIt’s always possible to find one<\/p>\n

468
\n00:34:47,900 –> 00:34:53,199
\nthat will actually be of
\nassistance just a brief mention <\/p>\n

469
\n00:34:53,199 –> 00:34:56,600
\ntwo of something which is wildly
\nmisunderstood in the general <\/p>\n

470
\n00:34:56,600 –> 00:34:59,900
\nCommunity electroconvulsive
\ntherapy or ECT. <\/p>\n

471
\n00:35:00,100 –> 00:35:04,600
\nA PCT got a really really bad
\nname back in the 30s and 40s <\/p>\n

472
\n00:35:04,600 –> 00:35:07,900
\nwhen it was administered with no
\nanesthetic and that’s just <\/p>\n

473
\n00:35:07,900 –> 00:35:11,800
\nDreadful these days.
\nIt’s administered under a full <\/p>\n

474
\n00:35:11,800 –> 00:35:14,500
\nanesthetic.
\nIt’s just simply the passage of <\/p>\n

475
\n00:35:14,508 –> 00:35:16,300
\nelectrical current through the
\nbrain. <\/p>\n

476
\n00:35:16,700 –> 00:35:23,200
\nIt’s completely painless it can
\ncause some memory issues that <\/p>\n

477
\n00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:27,400
\nare usually short term.
\nBut it can be absolutely <\/p>\n

478
\n00:35:27,400 –> 00:35:31,400
\nlife-saving particularly for an
\nolder person with severe <\/p>\n

479
\n00:35:31,400 –> 00:35:34,300
\ndepression.
\nAbsolutely life-saving. <\/p>\n

480
\n00:35:34,700 –> 00:35:39,500
\nSo if you hear of somebody
\nneeding ECT and I would be very <\/p>\n

481
\n00:35:39,500 –> 00:35:45,300
\nsurprised if most of us here
\nover the age of 60 don’t know <\/p>\n

482
\n00:35:45,300 –> 00:35:49,400
\nsomebody who’s needed it.
\nIt’s certainly nothing to be <\/p>\n

483
\n00:35:49,400 –> 00:35:54,700
\nfearful of It’s actually an
\nincredibly useful rarely needed <\/p>\n

484
\n00:35:54,700 –> 00:36:00,800
\nbut doubly useful treatment for
\ndepression So the medication <\/p>\n

485
\n00:36:00,800 –> 00:36:05,400
\nworks by affecting three
\ndifferent up to three different <\/p>\n

486
\n00:36:05,400 –> 00:36:09,000
\nneurotransmitters
\nnorepinephrine, which is how <\/p>\n

487
\n00:36:09,000 –> 00:36:12,800
\nit’s spoken about in America at
\nnoradrenaline in Australia <\/p>\n

488
\n00:36:13,300 –> 00:36:19,700
\ndopamine and serotonin.
\nNow the common medications are <\/p>\n

489
\n00:36:19,700 –> 00:36:23,900
\nserotonin reuptake Inhibitors
\nwhat that means is that the <\/p>\n

490
\n00:36:23,900 –> 00:36:27,800
\nserotonin is released from one
\nnerve ending travels down and <\/p>\n

491
\n00:36:27,800 –> 00:36:32,500
\ngets into a little receptor.
\nAnd that’s how one nerve <\/p>\n

492
\n00:36:32,600 –> 00:36:38,100
\ncommunicates with another so it
\nreleases a substance goes across<\/p>\n

493
\n00:36:38,100 –> 00:36:41,500
\na little Gap and lodges into a
\nreceptor. <\/p>\n

494
\n00:36:41,900 –> 00:36:48,000
\nWe wonderfully and fearfully
\nmade how that makes us think we <\/p>\n

495
\n00:36:48,000 –> 00:36:54,600
\ndon’t know but it has to do with
\nhow we think. what the <\/p>\n

496
\n00:36:54,600 –> 00:36:59,700
\nmedications do is block off
\nthese little reuptake channels, <\/p>\n

497
\n00:37:00,200 –> 00:37:04,400
\nwhich then means that there’s
\nmore serotonin in the Gap and we<\/p>\n

498
\n00:37:04,408 –> 00:37:08,000
\nknow that if we increase the
\namount of Serotonin between <\/p>\n

499
\n00:37:08,000 –> 00:37:13,300
\nnerve cells neurons, We feel
\nless depressed. <\/p>\n

500
\n00:37:14,400 –> 00:37:19,600
\nWhy we don’t know but we know
\nthat that’s what happens and <\/p>\n

501
\n00:37:19,600 –> 00:37:23,600
\nthat’s that’s how these
\nmedications quite simply work <\/p>\n

502
\n00:37:24,000 –> 00:37:28,100
\nand they do work that that
\ngentleman that I mentioned a <\/p>\n

503
\n00:37:28,107 –> 00:37:30,800
\nlittle while ago whose
\nmini-mental state test went from<\/p>\n

504
\n00:37:30,800 –> 00:37:34,000
\nseverely abnormal to normal in a
\nmonth. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:37:34,800 –> 00:37:39,500
\nAnd that’s that’s not unusual.
\nIf someone has proper depression<\/p>\n

506
\n00:37:39,800 –> 00:37:43,600
\nand they need these medications
\nthey do they do work. <\/p>\n

507
\n00:37:45,700 –> 00:37:50,200
\nSo just summing up this sort of
\nfirst half of the talk if you <\/p>\n

508
\n00:37:50,200 –> 00:37:54,000
\nlike depression is an illness.
\nIt’s not a character defect. <\/p>\n

509
\n00:37:54,000 –> 00:37:57,800
\nIt’s not a weakness.
\nI’d love I’d love to be able to <\/p>\n

510
\n00:37:57,800 –> 00:38:02,000
\nput into the collection bag next
\nSunday a dollar for every time <\/p>\n

511
\n00:38:02,300 –> 00:38:06,300
\none of my patients has said to
\nme I can’t have depression <\/p>\n

512
\n00:38:06,300 –> 00:38:11,700
\nbecause I am stronger than that.
\nWhether we’re strong or weak has<\/p>\n

513
\n00:38:11,700 –> 00:38:15,600
\ngot nothing to do as to whether
\nwe get depressed or not. <\/p>\n

514
\n00:38:16,000 –> 00:38:19,900
\nNothing at all.
\nNone of us say we can’t possibly<\/p>\n

515
\n00:38:19,900 –> 00:38:23,300
\nhave high blood pressure because
\nI’m stronger than that wouldn’t <\/p>\n

516
\n00:38:23,300 –> 00:38:26,000
\ndream of saying that but for
\nsome reason with mental illness <\/p>\n

517
\n00:38:26,000 –> 00:38:32,400
\nwe we there’s a stigma and and
\nwe deal with it differently and <\/p>\n

518
\n00:38:32,400 –> 00:38:36,100
\nwe really shouldn’t so it’s a
\nproper illness. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:38:37,200 –> 00:38:40,500
\nImportantly recovery is the rule
\nsomeone severely depressed won’t<\/p>\n

520
\n00:38:40,500 –> 00:38:44,700
\nbelieve that they won’t be able
\nto see that but that’s true. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:38:45,100 –> 00:38:49,800
\nIt is far more common to recover
\nthan not to there’s a range of <\/p>\n

522
\n00:38:49,800 –> 00:38:54,500
\ntreatments goal of the treatment
\nis to get well and to stay well.<\/p>\n

523
\n00:38:55,600 –> 00:38:58,300
\nThere is though quite a high
\nrate of relapse. <\/p>\n

524
\n00:38:58,300 –> 00:39:00,600
\nIf someone’s had one bad of
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

525
\n00:39:00,600 –> 00:39:03,600
\nThere’s at least a 50% chance
\nthat they will have another one <\/p>\n

526
\n00:39:03,600 –> 00:39:06,900
\nat some point in their lives.
\nSo that that’s important to <\/p>\n

527
\n00:39:06,900 –> 00:39:11,500
\nremember and so it’s really
\nimportant to be able to pick up <\/p>\n

528
\n00:39:11,500 –> 00:39:15,600
\nthe early warnings of a relapse
\nand get onto treatment again <\/p>\n

529
\n00:39:15,900 –> 00:39:21,500
\nquickly. now Is there a
\ndepression in the Bible? <\/p>\n

530
\n00:39:22,800 –> 00:39:24,700
\nOkay.
\nWell the word depression <\/p>\n

531
\n00:39:24,800 –> 00:39:28,200
\nactually doesn’t doesn’t occur.
\nAlthough brother. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:39:28,200 –> 00:39:31,400
\nJason got clothes in his
\nintroduction. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:39:32,300 –> 00:39:35,200
\nBut again that’s actually normal
\nbetter normal depression. <\/p>\n

534
\n00:39:35,300 –> 00:39:40,900
\nIt’s not not an illness.
\nNow Mana rager isn’t mentioned <\/p>\n

535
\n00:39:40,900 –> 00:39:44,200
\nin the Bible.
\nBut a woman with a horrible <\/p>\n

536
\n00:39:44,200 –> 00:39:49,100
\nissue of blood is congestive
\ncardiac failure is not mentioned<\/p>\n

537
\n00:39:49,100 –> 00:39:55,300
\nin the bible, but dropsy is
\nDepression is not mentioned in <\/p>\n

538
\n00:39:55,300 –> 00:40:01,600
\nthe bible, but it is there.
\nTurn with me to First of Kings <\/p>\n

539
\n00:40:01,600 –> 00:40:24,900
\nchapter 19 and verse 4.
\nSo first of Kings 19, we’re <\/p>\n

540
\n00:40:24,900 –> 00:40:29,200
\ndealing with dealing with Elijah
\nand Elijah had to deal with an <\/p>\n

541
\n00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:31,800
\nawful lot.
\nHe had to deal with Jezebel and <\/p>\n

542
\n00:40:31,800 –> 00:40:35,700
\nAhab.
\nAnd we pick the record up in <\/p>\n

543
\n00:40:35,700 –> 00:40:40,100
\nverse two then Jezebel sent a
\nmessenger unto Elijah saying so <\/p>\n

544
\n00:40:40,100 –> 00:40:44,300
\nlet the gods do to me and more.
\nAlso if I make not thy life as <\/p>\n

545
\n00:40:44,300 –> 00:40:47,600
\nthe life of one of them by
\ntomorrow about this time. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:40:48,700 –> 00:40:52,700
\nAnd when Elijah saw that he
\narose and went for his life and <\/p>\n

547
\n00:40:52,700 –> 00:40:56,700
\ncame to be a Shiba which belong
\nwith to Judah and left his <\/p>\n

548
\n00:40:56,700 –> 00:41:00,200
\nservant there.
\nBut he himself went a Day’s <\/p>\n

549
\n00:41:00,200 –> 00:41:04,100
\nJourney Into the Wilderness and
\ncame and sat down under a <\/p>\n

550
\n00:41:04,107 –> 00:41:08,800
\njuniper tree and he requested
\nfor himself that he might die <\/p>\n

551
\n00:41:09,700 –> 00:41:13,700
\nand said it is enough now o
\nYahweh. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:41:13,900 –> 00:41:19,400
\nTake away my life for I am not
\nbetter than my father’s and as <\/p>\n

553
\n00:41:19,400 –> 00:41:22,900
\nhe lay and slept under a juniper
\ntree behold then an angel <\/p>\n

554
\n00:41:23,000 –> 00:41:25,300
\ntouched him and said unto him
\narise and eat. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:41:27,500 –> 00:41:31,500
\nElijah here is depressed.
\nHe wants to die. <\/p>\n

556
\n00:41:32,500 –> 00:41:36,200
\nHis lost motivation is lying
\nunder a tree. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:41:37,500 –> 00:41:40,600
\nIs not eating the angel has to
\nforce him to eat. <\/p>\n

558
\n00:41:42,000 –> 00:41:44,700
\nElijah here is suffering a
\ndepressive illness. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:41:46,100 –> 00:41:50,300
\nUnfortunately through the
\nministration of God through his <\/p>\n

560
\n00:41:50,300 –> 00:41:53,800
\nangels.
\nHe was able to recover from then<\/p>\n

561
\n00:41:54,300 –> 00:41:57,200
\nbut there’s no doubt at all that
\nthat is a description of someone<\/p>\n

562
\n00:41:57,400 –> 00:42:03,600
\nsuffering from depression.
\nThose of us who were privileged <\/p>\n

563
\n00:42:03,600 –> 00:42:06,900
\nenough to be able to be up at
\nGlen like a couple of weeks ago <\/p>\n

564
\n00:42:07,300 –> 00:42:13,500
\nheard our brother Carl talked
\nabout King Saul he and in first <\/p>\n

565
\n00:42:13,500 –> 00:42:18,400
\nof Samuel 16 and first 2 Samuel
\n18, which we won’t turn to there<\/p>\n

566
\n00:42:18,400 –> 00:42:22,600
\nare there are descriptions of
\nsolve are being afflicted by an <\/p>\n

567
\n00:42:22,600 –> 00:42:25,800
\nevil spirit brother.
\nCarl actually used the word <\/p>\n

568
\n00:42:25,800 –> 00:42:30,900
\nMelancholia, which is an older
\nterm for Depression in <\/p>\n

569
\n00:42:30,900 –> 00:42:35,800
\ndescribing this illness that’s
\nall experienced which David’s <\/p>\n

570
\n00:42:35,800 –> 00:42:39,400
\nplaying on a heart help to help
\nto mitigate. <\/p>\n

571
\n00:42:40,000 –> 00:42:45,500
\nSo again, someone suffering a
\nmental illness in the scriptures<\/p>\n

572
\n00:42:46,100 –> 00:42:50,000
\nobviously not called that
\nbecause people didn’t use those <\/p>\n

573
\n00:42:50,000 –> 00:42:55,300
\nterms in those days.
\nThere’s no evidence to suggest <\/p>\n

574
\n00:42:55,300 –> 00:43:01,100
\nthat David himself ever suffered
\nfrom a mental illness called <\/p>\n

575
\n00:43:01,100 –> 00:43:05,500
\nthat we call now depression, but
\ncertainly in the writings in the<\/p>\n

576
\n00:43:05,500 –> 00:43:08,700
\nPsalms.
\nDavid is able to express <\/p>\n

577
\n00:43:09,000 –> 00:43:13,200
\nfeelings that any of us who have
\nhad depression would be very <\/p>\n

578
\n00:43:13,200 –> 00:43:20,000
\nvery familiar with in Psalm 13
\nhow long Yahweh Will you forget <\/p>\n

579
\n00:43:20,000 –> 00:43:23,200
\nme forever?
\nHow long will you hide your face<\/p>\n

580
\n00:43:23,200 –> 00:43:27,800
\nfrom me how long must I wrestle
\nwith my thoughts and day after <\/p>\n

581
\n00:43:27,800 –> 00:43:34,700
\nday have sorrow in my heart.
\nAnd again in Psalm 69 Save Me O <\/p>\n

582
\n00:43:34,700 –> 00:43:37,900
\nGod for the waters have come up
\nto my neck. <\/p>\n

583
\n00:43:38,400 –> 00:43:41,900
\nI sink in the Miry depths where
\nthere is no foothold. <\/p>\n

584
\n00:43:42,700 –> 00:43:45,900
\nI’ve come into the deep Waters
\nthe floods. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:43:45,900 –> 00:43:49,900
\nEngulf me.
\nI’m worn out calling for help. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:43:50,600 –> 00:43:54,200
\nMy throat is parched my eyes
\nfail. <\/p>\n

587
\n00:43:54,700 –> 00:43:58,500
\nLooking my God.
\nSo, is there a depression in the<\/p>\n

588
\n00:43:58,500 –> 00:44:00,400
\nBible?
\nYes. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:44:00,500 –> 00:44:04,300
\nYes, there is because it’s part
\nof the human condition and The <\/p>\n

590
\n00:44:04,300 –> 00:44:08,800
\nHuman Condition has not changed
\nin the last three four thousand <\/p>\n

591
\n00:44:08,800 –> 00:44:13,400
\nyears.
\nSo where does that leave us that<\/p>\n

592
\n00:44:13,400 –> 00:44:17,700
\nthe topic tonight was depression
\nand discipleship. <\/p>\n

593
\n00:44:18,300 –> 00:44:22,700
\nSo in order to be effective
\nDisciples of Our Lord? <\/p>\n

594
\n00:44:23,700 –> 00:44:27,600
\nWhere does that place Us in
\nrelation to this condition and <\/p>\n

595
\n00:44:27,600 –> 00:44:31,300
\nwe’re just singled out
\ndepression properly tonight. <\/p>\n

596
\n00:44:31,300 –> 00:44:35,100
\nBut I mean obviously there are
\nother illnesses that can be <\/p>\n

597
\n00:44:35,600 –> 00:44:40,200
\nequally as disastrous equally as
\ndifficult and equally is <\/p>\n

598
\n00:44:40,200 –> 00:44:45,500
\ndisruptive to our decide our
\nWalkers Disciples of Our Lord. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:44:46,900 –> 00:44:51,700
\nSo something that can be and
\ncertainly historically has made <\/p>\n

600
\n00:44:51,700 –> 00:44:55,300
\nit very difficult for us to deal
\nwith this problem within the <\/p>\n

601
\n00:44:55,300 –> 00:44:59,400
\nBrotherhood is that there can be
\na perception that we should be <\/p>\n

602
\n00:44:59,700 –> 00:45:03,900
\nalways Joyful We should be
\nsecure in the grace of God <\/p>\n

603
\n00:45:03,900 –> 00:45:06,900
\nthrough Jesus Christ.
\nSo therefore we should not be <\/p>\n

604
\n00:45:06,900 –> 00:45:10,900
\ndepressed or anxious.
\nAnd if we get like that, well <\/p>\n

605
\n00:45:10,900 –> 00:45:15,100
\nthen if we pray and read the
\nBible then that is all we need <\/p>\n

606
\n00:45:15,100 –> 00:45:23,700
\nto do and everything will be
\nfine. if one of us tonight <\/p>\n

607
\n00:45:24,200 –> 00:45:29,000
\nsuffered a heart attack I’m sure
\nthe rest of us would all call an<\/p>\n

608
\n00:45:29,000 –> 00:45:33,700
\nambulance.
\nOkay, and that’s how we need to <\/p>\n

609
\n00:45:33,700 –> 00:45:37,400
\nlook at major depression.
\nIt’s no different. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:45:38,300 –> 00:45:44,400
\nAll right.
\nSo we need to remember that we <\/p>\n

611
\n00:45:44,400 –> 00:45:49,100
\nare dealing in this subject with
\nan illness not the normal <\/p>\n

612
\n00:45:49,100 –> 00:45:53,900
\nemotion of sadness that we all
\nexperience the illness of major <\/p>\n

613
\n00:45:53,900 –> 00:45:56,900
\ndepression.
\nAnd so therefore we need when we<\/p>\n

614
\n00:45:56,900 –> 00:46:00,500
\nread these verses and I will
\nread a read a few verses off the<\/p>\n

615
\n00:46:00,508 –> 00:46:04,800
\nscreen in a moment.
\nThey are wonderfully beautifully<\/p>\n

616
\n00:46:05,200 –> 00:46:12,000
\nuplifting versus for us who are
\nwell So if we are well, these <\/p>\n

617
\n00:46:12,000 –> 00:46:15,600
\nare wonderful verses that should
\nLift us out of our normal <\/p>\n

618
\n00:46:15,600 –> 00:46:18,800
\nsadness.
\nSo if we have had a tough day <\/p>\n

619
\n00:46:19,200 –> 00:46:23,200
\nand if we’re just feeling lousy
\nand flat then these following <\/p>\n

620
\n00:46:23,200 –> 00:46:27,000
\nverses are a wonderful God given
\nhelp to us. <\/p>\n

621
\n00:46:28,300 –> 00:46:30,800
\nIf we are suffering from major
\ndepression. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:46:32,100 –> 00:46:36,600
\nWe have to try and understand
\nthat these verses are actually <\/p>\n

623
\n00:46:37,200 –> 00:46:40,600
\nvery difficult.
\nThey actually make you feel <\/p>\n

624
\n00:46:40,600 –> 00:46:43,400
\nguilty.
\nThey make you feel worthless <\/p>\n

625
\n00:46:44,300 –> 00:46:47,100
\nbecause you don’t feel what
\nthese verses are saying. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:46:47,800 –> 00:46:50,600
\nOkay, so as we read these verses
\njust remember if you are well <\/p>\n

627
\n00:46:50,600 –> 00:46:54,800
\nthese verses are wonderful if
\nthese verses if we are not well <\/p>\n

628
\n00:46:55,300 –> 00:46:59,500
\nthese verses are actually the
\nsame verses very hard. <\/p>\n

629
\n00:47:02,700 –> 00:47:06,500
\nBlessed is every one that
\nfeareth Yahweh that walketh in <\/p>\n

630
\n00:47:06,500 –> 00:47:11,600
\nhis ways that thou shalt eat.
\nThe Labour of thine hands happy <\/p>\n

631
\n00:47:11,600 –> 00:47:15,100
\nshalt thou be and it shall be
\nwell with thee. <\/p>\n

632
\n00:47:17,700 –> 00:47:22,200
\nHe that handle of the metal
\nwisely shall find good and whoso<\/p>\n

633
\n00:47:22,200 –> 00:47:31,000
\ntrusteth in Yahweh happy is he?
\nMany Sorrows shall be to the <\/p>\n

634
\n00:47:31,000 –> 00:47:34,700
\nwicked.
\nBut he that trusteth in your way<\/p>\n

635
\n00:47:35,100 –> 00:47:40,600
\nMercy shall Compass him about be
\nglad in Yahweh and rejoice you <\/p>\n

636
\n00:47:40,600 –> 00:47:45,100
\nrighteous and Shout for Joy all
\nye that are upright in heart. <\/p>\n

637
\n00:47:47,200 –> 00:47:51,700
\nSo what if you what if you can’t
\nshout for Joy does that mean <\/p>\n

638
\n00:47:51,700 –> 00:47:56,500
\nyou’re not up right?
\nIf you’re not happy does that <\/p>\n

639
\n00:47:56,500 –> 00:48:01,800
\nmean you’re not faithful?
\nThese are inspired words of our <\/p>\n

640
\n00:48:01,800 –> 00:48:06,000
\nheavenly father.
\nI’m not questioning them for a <\/p>\n

641
\n00:48:06,000 –> 00:48:09,800
\nmoment.
\nBut they’re written for people <\/p>\n

642
\n00:48:09,800 –> 00:48:13,300
\nwho are well.
\nThey’re written to lift people <\/p>\n

643
\n00:48:13,300 –> 00:48:17,200
\nup who are able to.
\nOkay, they are written to <\/p>\n

644
\n00:48:17,200 –> 00:48:23,100
\ndescribe our total existence as
\nSons and Daughters of God and <\/p>\n

645
\n00:48:23,100 –> 00:48:34,200
\nthe wonderful hope that we have.
\nour Lord Jesus Christ cried he <\/p>\n

646
\n00:48:34,200 –> 00:48:40,000
\nknew what it was like to be sad.
\nHe certainly wasn’t happy all <\/p>\n

647
\n00:48:40,000 –> 00:48:43,300
\nthe time.
\nSo these verses need to be seen <\/p>\n

648
\n00:48:43,300 –> 00:48:49,200
\nin their totality.
\nWe need to remember to that <\/p>\n

649
\n00:48:49,200 –> 00:48:53,300
\nsomeone who is unable for a
\nperiod of their life not for not<\/p>\n

650
\n00:48:53,300 –> 00:48:56,300
\nfor their entire life, but for a
\nperiod of their life that <\/p>\n

651
\n00:48:56,300 –> 00:49:00,700
\nthey’re suffering and illness
\nare unable to be happy find <\/p>\n

652
\n00:49:00,700 –> 00:49:03,900
\nverses like that really really
\nhard. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:49:07,100 –> 00:49:11,700
\nThe symptoms of mental illness
\ncan then seriously affect how we<\/p>\n

654
\n00:49:11,700 –> 00:49:16,000
\ncan outwardly express our faith.
\nSo if we are suffering an <\/p>\n

655
\n00:49:16,000 –> 00:49:20,600
\nillness, we don’t have any
\nmotivation then it’s very hard <\/p>\n

656
\n00:49:20,600 –> 00:49:23,100
\nto be able to attend a collegial
\nactivities. <\/p>\n

657
\n00:49:23,500 –> 00:49:25,600
\nIt’s very hard to even read the
\nBible. <\/p>\n

658
\n00:49:27,200 –> 00:49:31,300
\nIf a concentration is shot then
\nagain, it makes reading the <\/p>\n

659
\n00:49:31,300 –> 00:49:36,300
\nBible very difficult make
\nspraying difficult and it <\/p>\n

660
\n00:49:36,300 –> 00:49:39,600
\ncertainly makes sitting in a
\nmeeting listening to a talk <\/p>\n

661
\n00:49:39,700 –> 00:49:44,000
\nalmost impossible to do with any
\nsort of normality. <\/p>\n

662
\n00:49:45,900 –> 00:49:48,300
\nAnd if we’re feeling incredibly
\nguilty. <\/p>\n

663
\n00:49:49,400 –> 00:49:52,500
\nIf we read those verses that
\nwe’ve just read together and <\/p>\n

664
\n00:49:52,500 –> 00:49:55,800
\nfeel guilty and we feel
\nworthless. <\/p>\n

665
\n00:49:56,800 –> 00:50:02,100
\nThen it can seriously reacts as
\nfar as how we deal with sin and <\/p>\n

666
\n00:50:02,100 –> 00:50:06,400
\nforgiveness how if you feel that
\nyou’re worthless? <\/p>\n

667
\n00:50:07,200 –> 00:50:09,600
\nHow could God possibly want to
\nforgive me? <\/p>\n

668
\n00:50:11,000 –> 00:50:14,400
\nSo this is a this is a dreadful
\nillness because it’s an illness <\/p>\n

669
\n00:50:14,400 –> 00:50:21,500
\nthat makes us call into question
\nour primary position before God <\/p>\n

670
\n00:50:22,200 –> 00:50:26,100
\nand our ability to respond to
\nhis message of Grace. <\/p>\n

671
\n00:50:27,700 –> 00:50:32,200
\nSo it’s something that I think
\nwe underestimate enormously <\/p>\n

672
\n00:50:32,200 –> 00:50:35,300
\nunless we’ve been there
\nourselves and someone with <\/p>\n

673
\n00:50:35,300 –> 00:50:39,000
\ndepression doesn’t have a great
\nbig sort of Mark on their face, <\/p>\n

674
\n00:50:39,600 –> 00:50:41,900
\nyou know, they’re not limping
\nnecessarily. <\/p>\n

675
\n00:50:42,300 –> 00:50:46,800
\nThere’s nothing outward to be
\nable to you know to have <\/p>\n

676
\n00:50:46,800 –> 00:50:50,600
\nsympathy for people with
\ndepression are battling this on <\/p>\n

677
\n00:50:50,600 –> 00:50:56,000
\nthe inside.
\nSo it’s really important that we<\/p>\n

678
\n00:50:56,000 –> 00:51:01,000
\nunderstand this as best as we
\ncan the instead of telling <\/p>\n

679
\n00:51:01,000 –> 00:51:03,300
\nsomebody how bad they are
\nbecause they hadn’t been to the <\/p>\n

680
\n00:51:03,300 –> 00:51:06,900
\nmeeting for a while.
\nWe actually can deceive that <\/p>\n

681
\n00:51:06,900 –> 00:51:09,600
\nwhere appropriate not everybody
\nthat doesn’t attend the meetings<\/p>\n

682
\n00:51:09,600 –> 00:51:12,400
\nobviously has depression.
\nBut if someone has depression <\/p>\n

683
\n00:51:13,100 –> 00:51:18,000
\nthen what they need is support
\nand encouragement gently rather <\/p>\n

684
\n00:51:18,000 –> 00:51:21,600
\nthan blaming them for at the
\noutward appearance which judging<\/p>\n

685
\n00:51:21,600 –> 00:51:23,400
\noutwardly rather than the Inner
\nMan. <\/p>\n

686
\n00:51:25,700 –> 00:51:29,800
\nOkay, so and again just simply
\nwe don’t blame somebody with <\/p>\n

687
\n00:51:29,800 –> 00:51:34,200
\nglandular fever for being tired.
\nSo therefore we shouldn’t either<\/p>\n

688
\n00:51:34,200 –> 00:51:37,800
\nblame a brother and sister with
\ndepression for having poor <\/p>\n

689
\n00:51:37,800 –> 00:51:45,400
\nmotivation or concentration.
\nWe do though as brothers and <\/p>\n

690
\n00:51:45,400 –> 00:51:50,800
\nsisters of our Lord Jesus Christ
\nhave a wonderful wonderful <\/p>\n

691
\n00:51:51,100 –> 00:51:56,100
\nbenefit.
\nWell beyond somebody who has not<\/p>\n

692
\n00:51:56,100 –> 00:51:59,700
\ngot the surety of faith that we
\nhave. <\/p>\n

693
\n00:52:00,600 –> 00:52:07,000
\nWe do have a high priest.
\nWe have somebody who can provide<\/p>\n

694
\n00:52:07,000 –> 00:52:12,300
\nintercession for us, even when
\nwe’re at our weakest and lowest <\/p>\n

695
\n00:52:12,300 –> 00:52:17,200
\nebb.
\nOur Lord Jesus Christ is a <\/p>\n

696
\n00:52:17,200 –> 00:52:21,700
\nwonderful anchor for our souls
\nliterally. <\/p>\n

697
\n00:52:23,500 –> 00:52:29,700
\nIsaiah 53 is despised and
\nrejected of men a Man of Sorrows<\/p>\n

698
\n00:52:29,700 –> 00:52:34,300
\nand acquainted with grief and we
\nhid as it were our faces from <\/p>\n

699
\n00:52:34,300 –> 00:52:37,100
\nhim.
\nHe was despised and we esteemed <\/p>\n

700
\n00:52:37,100 –> 00:52:41,500
\nhim not surely he hath borne our
\ngriefs and carried our sorrows <\/p>\n

701
\n00:52:42,000 –> 00:52:43,900
\nyet.
\nWe did esteem him stricken <\/p>\n

702
\n00:52:43,900 –> 00:52:50,700
\nsmitten of God and afflicted.
\nWe have a high priest who who <\/p>\n

703
\n00:52:50,700 –> 00:52:53,900
\ncan be touched with the feeling
\nof our infirmities. <\/p>\n

704
\n00:52:54,200 –> 00:52:58,300
\nHe was tempted in all points.
\nLike as we are yet without sin <\/p>\n

705
\n00:52:59,200 –> 00:53:04,100
\nso we can come boldly unto the
\nthrone of grace to obtain mercy <\/p>\n

706
\n00:53:04,500 –> 00:53:07,700
\nand find Grace to help in time
\nof need. <\/p>\n

707
\n00:53:10,200 –> 00:53:14,100
\nThe Lord said come to me all you
\nwho labor and are heavy laden <\/p>\n

708
\n00:53:14,400 –> 00:53:18,900
\nand I will give you rest take my
\nyoke upon you and learn from me <\/p>\n

709
\n00:53:19,500 –> 00:53:24,300
\nfor I am gentle and lowly in
\nheart and you will find rest for<\/p>\n

710
\n00:53:24,300 –> 00:53:29,900
\nyour souls for my yoke is easy
\nand my burden is light. <\/p>\n

711
\n00:53:32,400 –> 00:53:36,400
\nHear My Cry Oh God attend to my
\nprayer from the ends of the <\/p>\n

712
\n00:53:36,400 –> 00:53:39,100
\nEarth.
\nI will cry to you when my heart <\/p>\n

713
\n00:53:39,100 –> 00:53:44,100
\nis overwhelmed lead me to the
\nrock that is higher than I if <\/p>\n

714
\n00:53:44,100 –> 00:53:48,000
\nyou have been a shelter for me a
\nstrong tower from the enemy. <\/p>\n

715
\n00:53:48,700 –> 00:53:50,800
\nI will abide in your Tabernacle
\nforever. <\/p>\n

716
\n00:53:51,400 –> 00:53:54,800
\nI will trust in the shelter of
\nyour wings. <\/p>\n

717
\n00:53:55,700 –> 00:53:59,200
\nBeautiful beautiful words
\nbrothers and sisters and and <\/p>\n

718
\n00:53:59,200 –> 00:54:03,700
\nsomething that we have that so
\nmany in this world do not and <\/p>\n

719
\n00:54:03,700 –> 00:54:08,900
\nknow nothing about and it’s a
\nPriceless gift that we’ve been <\/p>\n

720
\n00:54:08,900 –> 00:54:15,100
\ngiven.
\nAnd again finally be anxious for<\/p>\n

721
\n00:54:15,100 –> 00:54:18,400
\nnothing but in everything by
\nprayer and supplication with <\/p>\n

722
\n00:54:18,400 –> 00:54:22,200
\nThanksgiving let your requests
\nbe made known to God and the <\/p>\n

723
\n00:54:22,200 –> 00:54:26,200
\npeace of God which surpasses all
\nunderstanding will guard your <\/p>\n

724
\n00:54:26,200 –> 00:54:29,800
\nhearts and Minds through Christ
\nJesus. <\/p>\n

725
\n00:54:31,200 –> 00:54:37,000
\nSo with that Armory of support
\nwhat can be done then for <\/p>\n

726
\n00:54:37,000 –> 00:54:41,300
\nsomeone or by someone with
\ndepression firstly it’s <\/p>\n

727
\n00:54:41,300 –> 00:54:46,200
\nimportant to accept that there’s
\na problem to accept help someone<\/p>\n

728
\n00:54:46,200 –> 00:54:50,800
\nwith depression experiences the
\nsame stigma against themselves <\/p>\n

729
\n00:54:51,000 –> 00:54:54,200
\nthat the wider Community can
\nexpress against mental illness. <\/p>\n

730
\n00:54:54,200 –> 00:54:58,700
\nSo you have to be
\nextraordinarily Brave to be able<\/p>\n

731
\n00:54:58,700 –> 00:55:00,900
\nto admit that you’re suffering
\nfrom a mental illness. <\/p>\n

732
\n00:55:01,800 –> 00:55:05,800
\nBecause of this inbuilt stigma
\nfor whatever reason against <\/p>\n

733
\n00:55:05,800 –> 00:55:08,300
\nmental illness as distinct from
\nother illnesses. <\/p>\n

734
\n00:55:09,800 –> 00:55:12,100
\nTrying to reduce stress and
\nanxiety. <\/p>\n

735
\n00:55:12,400 –> 00:55:16,500
\nIt’s important through simple
\ntechniques trying to get enough <\/p>\n

736
\n00:55:16,500 –> 00:55:18,800
\nsleep.
\nThat’s how the brain heals <\/p>\n

737
\n00:55:18,800 –> 00:55:22,300
\nitself it maintains itself in
\nsleep. <\/p>\n

738
\n00:55:22,800 –> 00:55:27,600
\nAnd so getting enough sleep is
\nvitally important keeping active<\/p>\n

739
\n00:55:27,600 –> 00:55:31,600
\nexercise is a hugely beneficial
\nthing for stress and depression.<\/p>\n

740
\n00:55:32,200 –> 00:55:37,000
\nIt’s it makes a big difference
\nin someone’s feelings of <\/p>\n

741
\n00:55:37,000 –> 00:55:41,500
\nwell-being.
\nAlcohol is a depressant pure and<\/p>\n

742
\n00:55:41,500 –> 00:55:43,400
\nsimple.
\nIt depresses the brain. <\/p>\n

743
\n00:55:43,400 –> 00:55:44,900
\nThat’s why you eventually fall
\nasleep. <\/p>\n

744
\n00:55:44,900 –> 00:55:50,300
\nIf you keep drinking it’s a
\ndepressant and so if someone is <\/p>\n

745
\n00:55:50,300 –> 00:55:57,400
\nexperiencing depression alcohol
\nis not a good combination. how <\/p>\n

746
\n00:55:57,400 –> 00:56:01,400
\nto help somebody that has
\ndepression very very importantly<\/p>\n

747
\n00:56:01,400 –> 00:56:06,600
\nobviously is to pray for help
\nand for guidance that’s always <\/p>\n

748
\n00:56:06,700 –> 00:56:12,900
\nabsolutely vital for the
\ndisciple again to be aware to <\/p>\n

749
\n00:56:12,900 –> 00:56:17,100
\naccept which can be very
\ndifficult much easier to try and<\/p>\n

750
\n00:56:17,100 –> 00:56:21,800
\nplay things down deny that it’s
\nhappening in a loved one or <\/p>\n

751
\n00:56:21,800 –> 00:56:26,000
\npotentially even to feel guilt
\nthat it’s occurring or anger <\/p>\n

752
\n00:56:26,100 –> 00:56:29,800
\nanything that And in fact, I saw
\nit today in my Consulting room <\/p>\n

753
\n00:56:29,800 –> 00:56:34,600
\nher father react in Anger at the
\nrealization that his son was <\/p>\n

754
\n00:56:34,600 –> 00:56:38,900
\nseverely compromised by anxiety
\nand depression anything that <\/p>\n

755
\n00:56:38,900 –> 00:56:44,300
\nfrightens us unfortunately can
\nresult in a knee-jerk response <\/p>\n

756
\n00:56:44,300 –> 00:56:47,000
\nof anger.
\nJust need to be so careful <\/p>\n

757
\n00:56:47,000 –> 00:56:53,400
\nagainst that just let them talk.
\nListen, you don’t have to fix <\/p>\n

758
\n00:56:53,400 –> 00:56:55,800
\ntheir problem.
\nNone of us think that we have to<\/p>\n

759
\n00:56:55,800 –> 00:57:00,000
\nfix somebody’s diabetes.
\nWe don’t have to fix depression <\/p>\n

760
\n00:57:00,000 –> 00:57:04,100
\neither but just listening is
\njust so important. <\/p>\n

761
\n00:57:06,700 –> 00:57:09,500
\nAvoid dwelling on the negatives
\nas best as possible. <\/p>\n

762
\n00:57:10,600 –> 00:57:13,700
\nTry to gently encourage a more
\npositive way of looking at <\/p>\n

763
\n00:57:13,700 –> 00:57:18,400
\nthings.
\nSpending time spending time. <\/p>\n

764
\n00:57:18,400 –> 00:57:23,700
\nSo even even Eeyore and she
\nenjoys somebody spending time <\/p>\n

765
\n00:57:24,000 –> 00:57:28,100
\nwith them and that physical
\ncontact is really important. <\/p>\n

766
\n00:57:30,400 –> 00:57:32,800
\nRecognize that it’s going to be
\nvery hard for somebody with <\/p>\n

767
\n00:57:32,800 –> 00:57:37,100
\ndepression to make decisions.
\nSo leave those as best as <\/p>\n

768
\n00:57:37,100 –> 00:57:41,600
\npossible for when they’re
\nfeeling better encourage gradual<\/p>\n

769
\n00:57:41,600 –> 00:57:44,600
\nincrease in activity.
\nSomeone severely depressed finds<\/p>\n

770
\n00:57:44,600 –> 00:57:46,800
\nit hard to get out of bed in the
\nmorning. <\/p>\n

771
\n00:57:47,500 –> 00:57:51,400
\nLet alone go out for a walk.
\nLet alone come into an occlusal <\/p>\n

772
\n00:57:51,400 –> 00:57:54,500
\nenvironment.
\nIt’s very very difficult, but <\/p>\n

773
\n00:57:54,500 –> 00:57:57,400
\ngentle encouragement is it’s
\nvery important. <\/p>\n

774
\n00:57:58,900 –> 00:58:01,500
\nIf you’re very close to the
\nperson with depression, if <\/p>\n

775
\n00:58:01,500 –> 00:58:04,700
\nyou’re living with them, it can
\nbe incredibly draining and <\/p>\n

776
\n00:58:04,700 –> 00:58:08,800
\ntiring and stressful.
\nSo it’s also important to give <\/p>\n

777
\n00:58:08,800 –> 00:58:13,200
\nyourself permission to have time
\nfor yourself to look after <\/p>\n

778
\n00:58:13,200 –> 00:58:17,000
\nyourself.
\nAnd as we’ve made it mentioned a<\/p>\n

779
\n00:58:17,000 –> 00:58:20,100
\ncouple of times already.
\nIt’s incredibly appropriate that<\/p>\n

780
\n00:58:20,100 –> 00:58:24,500
\na person with a mental illness
\ngets medical help just like any <\/p>\n

781
\n00:58:24,500 –> 00:58:29,000
\nother illness and that’s that’s
\nreally important. <\/p>\n

782
\n00:58:30,100 –> 00:58:33,500
\nSome excellent online resources,
\nwhich I thoroughly recommend <\/p>\n

783
\n00:58:34,000 –> 00:58:39,200
\nboth Beyond Blue Dot org dot a
\nyou and black dog institute.org <\/p>\n

784
\n00:58:39,300 –> 00:58:45,200
\ndot a you very very good form
\nsources of information and and <\/p>\n

785
\n00:58:45,200 –> 00:58:51,600
\nassistance.
\nAnd again first and last pray <\/p>\n

786
\n00:58:51,600 –> 00:58:56,900
\nfor help and guidance.
\nHeavenly father is an enormous <\/p>\n

787
\n00:58:56,900 –> 00:59:02,200
\nsource of strength to us, which
\nwe must not let us not forget <\/p>\n

788
\n00:59:02,200 –> 00:59:07,600
\never.
\nSo finally if you turn with me <\/p>\n

789
\n00:59:07,600 –> 00:59:12,600
\nto the reading that we had
\nearlier this evening so Isaiah <\/p>\n

790
\n00:59:12,600 –> 00:59:22,200
\n35.
\nBrother Dez before the meeting <\/p>\n

791
\n00:59:22,200 –> 00:59:26,600
\nstarted intimated that when he
\nused to listen to Medical talks <\/p>\n

792
\n00:59:26,600 –> 00:59:29,100
\nit often Come Away thinking he
\nwas suffering from whatever the <\/p>\n

793
\n00:59:29,100 –> 00:59:31,900
\ntalk was about.
\nI’d certainly like to hope that <\/p>\n

794
\n00:59:31,900 –> 00:59:36,700
\ntonight you’re not going to
\nleave here depressed and a <\/p>\n

795
\n00:59:36,700 –> 00:59:41,700
\nchapter like Isaiah 35 I think
\nis a is a really lovely way for <\/p>\n

796
\n00:59:41,700 –> 00:59:46,600
\nus to finish.
\nIt’s very hard for us to put <\/p>\n

797
\n00:59:46,600 –> 00:59:48,400
\nourselves in other people’s
\nshoes. <\/p>\n

798
\n00:59:49,900 –> 00:59:54,400
\nThat applies as much to passages
\nof scripture. <\/p>\n

799
\n00:59:54,400 –> 00:59:57,700
\nI think as it does to our
\ninteractions with one another <\/p>\n

800
\n00:59:59,000 –> 01:00:03,900
\nthe prophet Isaiah with the
\nprophet Micah was prophesying at<\/p>\n

801
\n01:00:03,900 –> 01:00:09,100
\na time in judah’s history where
\nthe Assyrians had completely <\/p>\n

802
\n01:00:09,100 –> 01:00:13,400
\noverrun and taken their
\nneighboring Northern neighbors <\/p>\n

803
\n01:00:13,400 –> 01:00:17,800
\nthe the Kingdom of Israel.
\nThe Syrian Army at the time that<\/p>\n

804
\n01:00:17,800 –> 01:00:22,000
\nhe would have written chapter 35
\non the basis that it follows <\/p>\n

805
\n01:00:22,000 –> 01:00:26,200
\ndirectly in front of chapter 36
\nwas written at a time. <\/p>\n

806
\n01:00:26,200 –> 01:00:29,800
\nWhen the Assyrian army had come
\ndown into the central and <\/p>\n

807
\n01:00:29,800 –> 01:00:34,900
\nsouthern portion of Judah had
\ntaken all of the Fortified <\/p>\n

808
\n01:00:34,900 –> 01:00:40,500
\ncities of Judah including lakish
\nthe main fortified City apart <\/p>\n

809
\n01:00:40,500 –> 01:00:44,500
\nfrom Jerusalem.
\nThere’s a there’s actually The <\/p>\n

810
\n01:00:44,500 –> 01:00:48,200
\nSiege works are still visible in
\nlakish. <\/p>\n

811
\n01:00:48,200 –> 01:00:52,100
\nThere are freezes in the British
\nMuseum of the syrians taking <\/p>\n

812
\n01:00:52,100 –> 01:00:55,500
\naway the citizens of lakish into
\ncaptivity. <\/p>\n

813
\n01:00:56,000 –> 01:01:00,600
\nSo Jerusalem was completely
\nisolated and surrounded by the <\/p>\n

814
\n01:01:00,600 –> 01:01:05,100
\nSea by this fairly barbaric
\npower of the Assyrians. <\/p>\n

815
\n01:01:06,400 –> 01:01:12,500
\nAnd so if anyone had reason to
\nfeel sad and to question them, <\/p>\n

816
\n01:01:13,700 –> 01:01:17,900
\nIt was certainly Isaiah and his
\ncontemporaries in Jerusalem at <\/p>\n

817
\n01:01:17,900 –> 01:01:22,200
\nthe time that this chapter was
\nwritten but through the <\/p>\n

818
\n01:01:22,200 –> 01:01:26,800
\nProvidence of God through the
\nthrough prophecies given to him <\/p>\n

819
\n01:01:26,800 –> 01:01:31,800
\nthrough the the spirit of God as
\nI was able to write these words <\/p>\n

820
\n01:01:32,800 –> 01:01:37,600
\nin verse 3 strengthen you either
\nweak hands and confirm the <\/p>\n

821
\n01:01:37,600 –> 01:01:41,700
\nfeeble knees say to them that
\nare of a fearful heart be <\/p>\n

822
\n01:01:41,700 –> 01:01:45,800
\nstrong.
\nFear not behold your God will <\/p>\n

823
\n01:01:45,800 –> 01:01:49,100
\ncome with vengeance even god
\nwith a recompense. <\/p>\n

824
\n01:01:49,700 –> 01:01:57,500
\nHe will come and save you. this
\nfive Then the eyes of the blind <\/p>\n

825
\n01:01:57,700 –> 01:02:03,100
\nshall be opened and the ears of
\nthe deaf shall be unstopped. <\/p>\n

826
\n01:02:04,000 –> 01:02:09,800
\nSo they blind people will see
\ndeaf people will be able to hear<\/p>\n

827
\n01:02:10,700 –> 01:02:15,700
\nthe six someone who’s completely
\nunable to walk will be able to <\/p>\n

828
\n01:02:15,700 –> 01:02:22,300
\nLEAP like a heart someone unable
\nto say a word will be able to <\/p>\n

829
\n01:02:22,300 –> 01:02:28,400
\nsing.
\nDown in verse 10 those who have <\/p>\n

830
\n01:02:28,400 –> 01:02:35,000
\nsorrow and sighing will obtain
\njoy and gladness. <\/p>\n

831
\n01:02:36,500 –> 01:02:40,600
\nAt that time in verse 10 when
\nthe ransomed of Yahweh shall <\/p>\n

832
\n01:02:40,600 –> 01:02:46,100
\nreturn and come to Zion with
\nsongs and everlasting Joy upon <\/p>\n

833
\n01:02:46,100 –> 01:02:49,500
\ntheir heads.
\nMay that time brothers and <\/p>\n

834
\n01:02:49,500 –> 01:02:53,800
\nsisters of joy and gladness when
\nsorrow and sighing will have <\/p>\n

835
\n01:02:53,800 –> 01:03:01,400
\ncompletely flown away be very
\nsoon at hand even so come Lord <\/p>\n

836
\n01:03:01,400 –> 01:03:10,400
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\nThank you for listening to the <\/p>\n

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\n01:03:10,400 –> 01:03:13,500
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037: Philip Davidson – Depression and Discipleship<\/a><\/blockquote>