{"id":369,"date":"2019-08-02T13:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/043-ben-brinkerhoff-when-you-cannot-bear\/"},"modified":"2026-07-16T19:42:20","modified_gmt":"2026-07-16T19:42:20","slug":"043-ben-brinkerhoff-when-you-cannot-bear","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/043-ben-brinkerhoff-when-you-cannot-bear\/","title":{"rendered":"043: Ben Brinkerhoff – When You Cannot Bear"},"content":{"rendered":"

We have a bonus episode for you this week, with a live, on location intro from both of us. The class is by Bro. Ben Brinkerhoff that was just given at the Idyllwild Bible School in 2019 from his series title \u201cUnity in Ephesus\u201d, this is Class 6 \u201cWhen You Cannot Bear.\u201d<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to the good Christian
\ntalks podcast. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi and I’m Chris.
\nThank you so much for joining us<\/p>\n

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\nthis week on this podcast.
\nWe select one taco week to help <\/p>\n

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\neach one of us get the Bible in
\nour daily news feed. <\/p>\n

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\nWe post at the start of each
\nweek for you to listen with a <\/p>\n

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\nshort intro before hand to kind
\nof set the stage for the talk. <\/p>\n

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\nYou’re about to hear and now
\nlet’s hear more about this <\/p>\n

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\nweek’s talk.
\nWell, it’s kind of a unique <\/p>\n

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\nthing.
\nChris and I are sitting at here <\/p>\n

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\nat Idyllwild.
\nWe were both blessed to be here <\/p>\n

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\nfor the week.
\nSo we heard a really good class.<\/p>\n

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\nSo we’re doing like a live quick
\nreaction to the sixth classroom <\/p>\n

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\nbeen Brinckerhoff series on
\nunity and Ephesus. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah.
\nSo yeah all six classes were <\/p>\n

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\nreally good the first two we
\nkind of starts up talking about <\/p>\n

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\nthe concept of unity and it’s
\none of those ones where you hear<\/p>\n

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\nthat the topic and the first
\ndirection is a little bit of a <\/p>\n

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\nwhere’s where’s the Go with
\nthat, but he did a really really<\/p>\n

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\namazing job with it.
\nHe started in the beginning <\/p>\n

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\ntalking about how God scriptures
\ndon’t teach unity in the sense <\/p>\n

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\nof what we think about it sort
\nof the worldview of Tolerance. <\/p>\n

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\nBut instead really focused on
\nthe concept of unity through <\/p>\n

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\nforbearance or loving each other
\nto the point of learning and <\/p>\n

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\ncoming to some sort of
\ncommonality and learning to <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand what God’s truth is.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

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\nHe makes a couple really good
\npoints. <\/p>\n

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\nI also had the same reaction
\nlike oh no he’s going to whole <\/p>\n

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\nweek on Unity.
\nLike I’m sure he’s going to step<\/p>\n

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\nin trouble areas at some point,
\nbut he never really does which I<\/p>\n

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\nthink was really a credit to
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\nHe makes like the he makes a
\nbunch of good points. <\/p>\n

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\nI think will eventually get to
\nthe whole series. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m assuming putting this series
\nup because the last three <\/p>\n

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\nclasses it was hard to decide
\nbut it was between class 4 5 & 6<\/p>\n

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\nI just didn’t actually hear I
\nheard glass 4 & 5 were good, but<\/p>\n

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\nI was on baby duty, but I was
\nable to sit in here and class 6,<\/p>\n

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\nwhich is what we’re going to
\nhave here on the on the show. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was really excellent.
\nHe makes a think here in class 6<\/p>\n

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\nwell earlier in the week.
\nHe makes really good point about<\/p>\n

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\nUnity being set on what God’s
\ntruth and What God Says is right<\/p>\n

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\nand that is always the Baseline
\nand our opinions are kind of our<\/p>\n

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\nopinions.
\nIt is always what God is right <\/p>\n

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\nand it’s up to us to humbly
\nfigure out what that is. <\/p>\n

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\nSo yeah, he does a really good
\njob. <\/p>\n

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\nI think established kind of
\nsetting it does a lot of table <\/p>\n

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\nsetting and then I think these
\nlast three classes are really <\/p>\n

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\nwhen he kind of hits the throws
\nthe punches if you will, so yeah<\/p>\n

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\nwhat you heard class four and
\nfive Giving you points from <\/p>\n

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\nthat.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean, I’ll just kind of
\nBriefly summarize without going <\/p>\n

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\ninto great detail.
\nI thought what Ben did for this <\/p>\n

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\nclass that was really really
\nwell done. <\/p>\n

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\nIs he kind of broke down the
\nthree kind of viewpoints that <\/p>\n

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\nyou could approach the concept
\nof unity from so you have the, <\/p>\n

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\nyou know, the judaizers in the
\nlegalistic methodology of where <\/p>\n

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\nyou know, if you follow these
\nrules you will make yourself <\/p>\n

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\nright and using those guidelines
\nis how you can be righteous with<\/p>\n

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\nGod.
\nHe also really a lot of time <\/p>\n

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\nlaying the groundwork on the
\nconcept of gnosticism and <\/p>\n

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\nNicolaitans which were some
\ndifferent sects that had broken <\/p>\n

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\noff and we’re sort of forming
\nactually within the Ecclesia and<\/p>\n

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\nEphesus at the time when Paul
\nwrote this letter and tied in <\/p>\n

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\nalso where John also more than
\nlikely spent some time in <\/p>\n

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\nEphesus, which he gets into in
\nthis class and how that you <\/p>\n

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\nknow, the Gnostic belief was
\nthat you had some sort of <\/p>\n

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\nindwelling of God inside
\nyourself and that was how you <\/p>\n

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\ndetermine what was and wasn’t
\nright and I thought he made a <\/p>\n

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\nreally The strong point he makes
\nit a couple times in all of his <\/p>\n

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\nclasses and he recounts that
\nhere that if you come at it from<\/p>\n

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\nthe perspective that you love
\nGod and in turn that means that <\/p>\n

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\nyou love his Commandments one of
\nhis Commandments is to love each<\/p>\n

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\nother.
\nSo if you are ever at a point <\/p>\n

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\nwhere you say, I love God, but I
\nhate you you’re you’re not <\/p>\n

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\nfollowing the commands.
\nYou’re making yourself a <\/p>\n

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\nhypocrite.
\nI think that was the around pick<\/p>\n

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\nthat up.
\nBut that was the Bell to get in <\/p>\n

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\nthe next class.
\nI think I think that was the <\/p>\n

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\nmost All part of this class is
\nthat he had set up this idea of <\/p>\n

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\nnarcissism was the opponent to
\nto the fusion Ecclesia and the <\/p>\n

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\nreveal that he has in this six
\nclass that you’ll hear is that <\/p>\n

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\nwhat gnosticism is missing is
\nlove. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s why I fusions like and
\nunity is based on love. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s based on love of each other
\nand like you he makes the point <\/p>\n

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\nabout being rival children, you
\nknow, you would never say I’m <\/p>\n

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\nrepeating a point you said but
\nyou would never say as a child <\/p>\n

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\nthat your brother does not
\ndeserve the love of your <\/p>\n

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\nparents, right, which is what we
\ndo to each other. <\/p>\n

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\nSo often in our kind of in are
\necclesial structures, which is <\/p>\n

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\nwhich is a huge embarrassment
\nand to uh, so yeah, this was <\/p>\n

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\nthis to me I definitely felt he
\nhad built to of this point like,<\/p>\n

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\noh, here’s the I’m going to
\nremove the veil the the real <\/p>\n

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\nproblem with gnosticism was the
\nwas the complete lack of love as<\/p>\n

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\nan important tenant.
\nSo yeah, this was a really great<\/p>\n

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\nclass.
\nI think it was kind of neat. <\/p>\n

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\nYou could really feel in this
\nseries that this is Ben’s home. <\/p>\n

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\nYou know, he’s been living in
\nNew Zealand for some time. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s from this area and now he’s
\nlike kind of he has his very <\/p>\n

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\nstrong.
\nDurand kind of emotional <\/p>\n

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\nconnection through this series
\nthat I would argue could kind of<\/p>\n

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\nonly be done here with two kind
\nof his home crowd in a way. <\/p>\n

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\nSo it was a really special
\nspecial group of classes. <\/p>\n

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\nSo yeah, I’m excited to share
\nthis one. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, I think Ben did a
\nfantastic job and also because <\/p>\n

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\nhe and he shares both in this
\nclass in some of the other ones <\/p>\n

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\nsome really personal not
\ndetails, but that some very <\/p>\n

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\npersonal impact that he’s had
\nwith the concept of unity and <\/p>\n

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\nthat actually stuff was going on
\nwith his homework Leisure at the<\/p>\n

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\ntime he was Writing these
\nclasses which makes it even more<\/p>\n

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\npowerful to hear his perspective
\non it. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I thought it was a tremendous
\nclass a really really good. <\/p>\n

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\nLook at what otherwise could be
\na really difficult topic to <\/p>\n

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\napproach.
\nSo we’ll turn it over to brother<\/p>\n

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\nBen for his sixth class on Unity
\nEphesus and when you can for <\/p>\n

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\nbear no more good morning, my
\nbeloved brothers and sisters. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s want to give to you.
\nThanks on behalf of my wife <\/p>\n

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\nAlyssa.
\nAnd my family for your love and <\/p>\n

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\ngenerosity for your hugs.
\nFor your encouragement as we <\/p>\n

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\ntravel through what is really a
\ncomplicated and difficult <\/p>\n

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\nsubject together.
\nI’ve remarked to several people <\/p>\n

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\nthat this study really helps me
\nalways think that’s the earmark <\/p>\n

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\nof a study worth sharing.
\nDid it help you? <\/p>\n

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\nDid it change you?
\nIf it did then maybe you ought <\/p>\n

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\nto pass it along and if not,
\nmaybe just keep studying. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, as you mentioned in our
\nlast class. <\/p>\n

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\nI think Paul dies knowing this
\ncontroversy in some of the <\/p>\n

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\nEcclesia is he established
\nhadn’t really been resolved. <\/p>\n

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\nSecond Timothy contains some
\nevidence that the problem got <\/p>\n

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\nworse.
\nIn fact, according to tradition <\/p>\n

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\nNero puts Paul to Death Around
\n80 68-67, but this isn’t the <\/p>\n

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\nlast time of course that we hear
\nabout the Ephesian Ecclesia. <\/p>\n

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\nWe know that it’s mentioned in
\nRevelation Chapter 2 where it’s <\/p>\n

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\ngiven a last warning by the Lord
\nJesus Christ before we get that <\/p>\n

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\nwarning.
\nLet’s first consider that The <\/p>\n

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\ncity of Ephesus like we had
\nspecial importance for another <\/p>\n

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\napostle.
\nThe apostle that wrote <\/p>\n

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\nRevelation.
\nIn fact John now, we’re not told<\/p>\n

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\nanywhere directly in Scripture
\nthat John the Apostle was in <\/p>\n

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\nEphesus and and that instance
\nand because that’s true. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m just going to hold out some
\nevidence that he might have been<\/p>\n

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\nin Evan Ephesus, but I’m not
\ngoing to be dogmatic about it <\/p>\n

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\nbecause if scripture re-up, I
\nreally need to know that I think<\/p>\n

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\nscripture would have told me
\nright we can sort of think <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s reasonable right?
\nI think that’s reasonable. <\/p>\n

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\nBut if Is there helps clarify a
\nfew things? <\/p>\n

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\nSo let’s just go through this a
\nlittle bit. <\/p>\n

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\nThe most obvious evidence is
\nprobably from Revelation 1 verse<\/p>\n

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\n9 where it says John your
\nbrother and companion and the <\/p>\n

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\nsuffering and Kingdom and
\npatient endurance that are ours <\/p>\n

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\nin Jesus was on the island of
\nPatmos because of the word of <\/p>\n

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\nGod and the testimony of Jesus.
\nWell the island of Patmos Is is <\/p>\n

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\na place where Pliny the Roman
\nhistorian tells us that <\/p>\n

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\npolitical offenders were often
\nbanished and it just so happens.<\/p>\n

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\nYou probably are aware of this
\nbut Patmos. <\/p>\n

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\nIs really close to Ephesus and
\nit’s not very likely you get <\/p>\n

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\nbanished to a place like Patmos
\nif you’re sitting out over here <\/p>\n

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\nin in Jerusalem or in Israel
\nindeed. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s other evidence consider
\nthe fact that in Revelation <\/p>\n

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\nchapters 2 and 3 that they were
\na cliche has all over the Roman <\/p>\n

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\nEmpire at this time, but we’re
\ngiven a letter to the Seven <\/p>\n

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\nequations in we’re in in Asia.
\nIt is not that those were the <\/p>\n

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\nonly seven Ecclesia has.
\nIt’s more likely that Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nchanneled this message through
\nJohn and that John had taken <\/p>\n

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\nsome leadership in those seven
\nequations. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s why Jesus Through
\nJohn use those seven occasions <\/p>\n

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\nas a microcosm for the entire
\nocclusal world as I think most <\/p>\n

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\nof us recognize if we’ve done
\nthat study. <\/p>\n

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\nIn my research any of the early
\nchurch historians that mention <\/p>\n

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\nJohn are they all attribute that
\nhe was in Ephesus the this <\/p>\n

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\nincludes eusebius, but the
\nearliest reference would be from<\/p>\n

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\nIranians and his book against
\nheresies book 3 chapter 3 <\/p>\n

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\nsection 4 and he explaining how
\nthe apostles passed their <\/p>\n

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\nteaching on to their heirs.
\nI radius says this. <\/p>\n

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\nThere are also those who heard
\nfrom him. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s polycarp.
\nThat John the disciple of the <\/p>\n

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\nLord going to bathe at Ephesus
\nand perceiving sir in ‘this <\/p>\n

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\nwithin rushed out of the bath
\nhouse without bathing exclaiming<\/p>\n

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\nlet us fly less even the
\nbathhouse fall down because <\/p>\n

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\nSerena’s the enemy of the truth
\nis within. <\/p>\n

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\nIranians to live between 125 ad
\nand 202 ad and so he wrote in <\/p>\n

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\nsort of the late 2nd Century era
\nbut as a young man, he met <\/p>\n

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\npolycarp and polycarp were told
\nby another story and was a <\/p>\n

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\ndisciple of John and polycarp
\nwas the leader of the Collegiate<\/p>\n

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\nin Smyrna as an example and
\neusebius says as well polycarp <\/p>\n

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\nwas himself martyred.
\nSo so why is this quote <\/p>\n

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\ninteresting outside of maybe
\ngiving us a little bit of extra <\/p>\n

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\nbiblical evidence that John
\nmight have in fact been or lived<\/p>\n

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\nin the city of Ephesus.
\nWell, it’s interesting to me <\/p>\n

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\nbecause you know, I just have
\none of those mines aggravatingly<\/p>\n

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\nand I think to myself because
\nI’m all I’m doing when I’m <\/p>\n

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\nstudying.
\nThis guys is I’m just present <\/p>\n

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\nsisters guys.
\nWhat am I thinking, you know <\/p>\n

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\nBrethren and sisters.
\nI’m just thinking I’m getting <\/p>\n

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\ncomfortable with you.
\nCan you tell right? <\/p>\n

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\nI’m thinking who’s the rent this
\ndid anyone else kind of think <\/p>\n

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\nthat themselves as they went
\nthrough is God. <\/p>\n

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\nWho is this the rent this guy so
\nI I can call him a guy see that <\/p>\n

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\nso I look him up and this is
\nwhat we have to hear about and <\/p>\n

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\nthis is from Robert gundry a
\nsurvey the New Testament. <\/p>\n

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\nHe says for instance Arendt.
\nThis was a gnostic. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd to summon early Christian
\nwho was prominent as a Harris <\/p>\n

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\nArc in the view of the early
\nchurch fathers. <\/p>\n

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\nHe denied that the Supreme God
\nmade the physical world. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, you may not recognize that
\nbut that immediately says he’s <\/p>\n

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\nthinking about the law along the
\nlines of Play-Doh. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, he denied the Supreme God
\nmade the physical world and <\/p>\n

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\nsurrender this interpretation.
\nThe Christ came to Jesus who is <\/p>\n

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\na man born of Joseph and Mary at
\nbaptism. <\/p>\n

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\nGuided him in his ministry and
\nleft him at his crucifixion. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, in other words syringe
\nthis taught that Jesus as Christ<\/p>\n

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\ndid not come in the flesh.
\nWhat did he believe in? <\/p>\n

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\nWell, according to the quote
\nabove strength is taught that <\/p>\n

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\nthat Jesus was flesh.
\nJesus was flesh, but the Christ <\/p>\n

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\nwas spirit.
\nAnd that Spirit came on Jesus at<\/p>\n

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\nbaptism.
\nBut because the Christ was not <\/p>\n

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\nflesh the Christ could not die.
\nIt left Jesus at his death and <\/p>\n

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\nin Sorrento’s few, by the way.
\nJesus wasn’t Resurrected. <\/p>\n

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\nJesus is going Jesus.
\nThe man is going to be <\/p>\n

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\nresurrected with everyone else
\non the last day confusing isn’t <\/p>\n

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\nit?
\nBecause we all know this <\/p>\n

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\ncompletely contradicts the
\ngospel, but what’s amazing is <\/p>\n

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\nthat people even in the Apostle
\nJohn’s day were teaching this <\/p>\n

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\nstuff?
\nThis is only what 60 years 50 <\/p>\n

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\nyears after Christ and already
\nthese views that are so far away<\/p>\n

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\nfrom Apostolic teaching are
\ntaking root. <\/p>\n

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\nNow that Doctrine isn’t exactly
\nNicolaitans but it’s Gnostic and<\/p>\n

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\nif the legend has some truth to
\nit because it’s merely Legend <\/p>\n

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\nhere.
\nThis would be a cause for <\/p>\n

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\ndisunity and here in the
\nEphesian Ecclesia. <\/p>\n

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\nWe could all agree.
\nYet we’re told this about the <\/p>\n

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\nequation Ephesus in Revelation 2
\nverse 2. <\/p>\n

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\nI Know Thy Works Christ says to
\ndiffusion equation to the angel.<\/p>\n

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\nOr to the leadership of that
\nEcclesia. <\/p>\n

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\nI Know Thy works and thy Labour
\nand thy patience. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd how thou canst not bear them
\nwhich are evil. <\/p>\n

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\nThat was tried them which say
\nthey are Apostles and are not <\/p>\n

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\nand found them to be Liars.
\nNow, I believe that this <\/p>\n

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\nCommendation to this specific
\nEcclesia. <\/p>\n

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\nMay be attributable to John
\nhimself. <\/p>\n

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\nDid you ever consider that?
\nWhat clue might we have that to <\/p>\n

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\nbe true other than Iranians
\nrecord, which was just written <\/p>\n

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\ndown fifty or a hundred years
\nafter it actually occurred. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:45,400 –> 00:15:49,600
\nNotice Jesus words here in verse
\n2 thou Hast tried. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s past tense thou Hast tried
\nthem which say they are Apostles<\/p>\n

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\nand are not so on.
\nWhat basis did the Ephesian <\/p>\n

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\nleaders try the false Apostles?
\nWell, it may be that John <\/p>\n

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\nhimself living in Ephesus
\nsupplied the phases of the <\/p>\n

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\ntrial.
\nLet me just suggest why that <\/p>\n

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\nmight be true.
\nWe look at first John chapter 4 <\/p>\n

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\nand verse 1 beloved believe not
\nevery Spirit but try the spirits<\/p>\n

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\nwhether they are of God because
\nmany false prophets are gone out<\/p>\n

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\ninto the world.
\nSo so that that’s really <\/p>\n

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\ninformative.
\nBut let me just line up those <\/p>\n

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\ntwo verses because seeing them
\njuxtaposed to one another <\/p>\n

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\nprobably adds another layer of
\nmeaning here. <\/p>\n

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\nSo we have here.
\nFirst John four saying believe <\/p>\n

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\nnot every Spirit but try the
\nspirits because many false <\/p>\n

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\nprophets are gone in the world
\nand Revelation 2 verse 2 says <\/p>\n

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\nThou Hast tried.
\nThem which say they are Apostles<\/p>\n

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\nand are not.
\nSo if John is living in Ephesus <\/p>\n

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\nriding from Ephesus dealing with
\nissues in ethicists, as some of <\/p>\n

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\nthe historical record seems to
\nsuggest Christ said you made a <\/p>\n

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\ntrial and John said this is the
\nbasis of the trial the maybe <\/p>\n

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\nthese two things might have
\nsomething to do with one <\/p>\n

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\nanother.
\nBut I want one what basis did <\/p>\n

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\nJohn try the false prophets?
\nWe’re told in verses two and <\/p>\n

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\nthree or three and four, I guess
\nhereby know we know ye the <\/p>\n

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\nspirit of God every spirit that
\nconfesseth that Jesus Christ is <\/p>\n

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\ncome in the flesh is of God.
\nEvery spirit that confesseth <\/p>\n

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\nthat Jesus Christ is not come in
\nthe flesh. <\/p>\n

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\nIs not of God and this is the
\nspirit of antichrist whereof ye <\/p>\n

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\nhave heard that it should come
\neven now is already in the world<\/p>\n

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\nnow.
\nOkay, what did surrender this <\/p>\n

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\nbelieve he believed that Jesus
\nas Christ did not come in the <\/p>\n

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\nflesh rather.
\nThe Christ Spirit came on Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nand baptism and left him a
\ncrucifixion. <\/p>\n

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\nSo there’s strong reason to
\nbelieve that that John came in <\/p>\n

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\nto Ephesus.
\nAnd try to eradicate the <\/p>\n

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\nEcclesia of are giving the
\nBrethren really simple terms and<\/p>\n

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\nclear Lines by which they could
\nidentify apostasy. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd based on Revelation to we
\nsee the Ephesian Ecclesia <\/p>\n

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\nsucceeded by identifying those
\nin the Ecclesia that were liars <\/p>\n

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\nand that were evil.
\nThis is not the only place in <\/p>\n

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\nfirst John by the way that you
\nmight see John argue against the<\/p>\n

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\nfalse teaching of his day recall
\nthe quote from Robert gundry <\/p>\n

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\nsyringe this taught that Jesus
\nwas the child of Mary and <\/p>\n

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\nJoseph.
\nBut Jesus was not the Son of God<\/p>\n

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\nChrist in a sense with the Son
\nof God, but not Jesus. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:16,100 –> 00:19:19,500
\nSo look at what John says in
\nfirst John chapter 4 verse 15 <\/p>\n

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\nWhoever whosoever shall confess
\nthat Jesus is the son of God. <\/p>\n

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\nGod dwelt in him and he in God
\nso is is John making that point <\/p>\n

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\nbecause he has to not just
\nbecause we need to know it <\/p>\n

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\nbecause it was an issue in his
\nown time. so why am I making <\/p>\n

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\nthese points what’s clear that
\nthere needed to be a delineation<\/p>\n

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\nby which the Brethren could tell
\nthe difference between truth and<\/p>\n

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\nare either you believe that
\nJesus was God’s son or not, <\/p>\n

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\neither you believe that he came
\nin the flesh or you don’t Are we<\/p>\n

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\nfighting for a bit?
\nOne of the things I struggled <\/p>\n

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\nwith brother and sisters with
\nthis study? <\/p>\n

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\nIs the studies own
\ncontradictions? <\/p>\n

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\nWe see an inspired basis for
\nUnity in the mercy and Oneness <\/p>\n

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\nof God.
\nWe seen exportation for for <\/p>\n

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\nforbearance.
\nEven after I show you some <\/p>\n

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\nevidence that there’s probably
\nsome things in that Ecclesia <\/p>\n

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\nthat were difficult to bear.
\nYeah, we see in first Timothy <\/p>\n

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\nthat Paul discusses that some of
\nthe leadership of this group had<\/p>\n

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\nbeen delivered to Satan.
\nAnd there seems to be clear <\/p>\n

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\nevidence in Timothy that the
\nproblems getting worse not <\/p>\n

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\nbetter.
\nWe see the Fulfillment of Paul’s<\/p>\n

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\nprophecy and Acts chapter 20
\nverse 28 to 30 that there were <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to be wolves in that
\nEcclesia not sparing the flock <\/p>\n

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\nand drawing disciples after
\nthemselves as Paul predicted. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now we see a clear
\ndelineation being drawn whether <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone is with Christ or is
\nAntichrist. <\/p>\n

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\nNow I ask you the question
\nbrothers sisters. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat is the right approach to
\nUnity? <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, you’re confused too.
\nAlright, it’s good. <\/p>\n

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\nIs it just me or does anyone
\nelse struggle to summarize all <\/p>\n

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\nthis?
\nI think it shows the complexity <\/p>\n

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\nof the subject personally and
\nwhy I don’t think we should ever<\/p>\n

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\nsubject– Unity to a formula or
\na legalistic approach. <\/p>\n

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\nIt must be guided by God’s
\nwisdom and it must be an <\/p>\n

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\nexercise in spiritual and
\nscriptural principles. <\/p>\n

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\nGuided by the word of God, which
\nis complete. <\/p>\n

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\nNevertheless does there need to
\nbe clear In and Out Lines today <\/p>\n

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\nlike there appeared to be in
\nthat is the Apostle John’s day. <\/p>\n

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\nObviously, the Ecclesia had
\nreached a point where it was <\/p>\n

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\nnecessary to create a fence to
\nprotect the sheep from the <\/p>\n

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\nWolves the time for forbearance
\nhad come to an end because the <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:52,900 –> 00:22:56,700
\nbond of Peace could not
\nMaintained in the light of such <\/p>\n

330
\n00:22:56,700 –> 00:23:01,600
\na doctrinal are the time for
\npatience had run out either you <\/p>\n

331
\n00:23:01,600 –> 00:23:05,100
\nbelieve the truth or you do not
\nyou make a decision and you go <\/p>\n

332
\n00:23:05,100 –> 00:23:10,200
\nforward now our first principles
\nare written today in this type <\/p>\n

333
\n00:23:10,200 –> 00:23:12,700
\nof clear and delineating
\nlanguage. <\/p>\n

334
\n00:23:12,700 –> 00:23:17,100
\nThey’re there to separate truth
\nfrom are on some particularly <\/p>\n

335
\n00:23:17,100 –> 00:23:20,200
\ncontroversial points as regards
\nto Christianity. <\/p>\n

336
\n00:23:22,000 –> 00:23:26,300
\nWhere there’s potential for
\nconfusion? <\/p>\n

337
\n00:23:27,900 –> 00:23:32,000
\nHaving such dividing points I
\nthink is probably scriptural and<\/p>\n

338
\n00:23:32,000 –> 00:23:38,700
\nI think this is the proof.
\nIn Revelation Jesus shows that <\/p>\n

339
\n00:23:38,700 –> 00:23:44,100
\nhe’s pleased he is pleased by
\nthe trial of the false Apostles <\/p>\n

340
\n00:23:44,300 –> 00:23:49,300
\nand at the Ecclesia no longer
\nbears with Liars. <\/p>\n

341
\n00:23:53,900 –> 00:23:57,400
\nAs we wait from sisters for
\nChrist’s return. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:23:59,600 –> 00:24:02,700
\nWe’re going to be faced with
\nmore challenges that will <\/p>\n

343
\n00:24:02,700 –> 00:24:08,700
\nwrestle with us and we’ll try
\nour patients and our lowliness <\/p>\n

344
\n00:24:09,300 –> 00:24:16,500
\nand our meekness.
\nSome challenges will probably <\/p>\n

345
\n00:24:16,500 –> 00:24:20,900
\ninevitably require a clear inner
\noutline. <\/p>\n

346
\n00:24:23,500 –> 00:24:27,000
\nWhen this happens we have to
\nremember that we too are always <\/p>\n

347
\n00:24:27,000 –> 00:24:30,600
\nsaved by God’s mercy.
\nWe as remember that no legal <\/p>\n

348
\n00:24:30,600 –> 00:24:38,200
\nstructures will ever save That
\nGod also me is right, even if we<\/p>\n

349
\n00:24:38,200 –> 00:24:45,700
\nfeel that we’re right.
\nWe must make sure that in and <\/p>\n

350
\n00:24:45,700 –> 00:24:50,500
\nout line is consistent with the
\nwhole view of scripture and we <\/p>\n

351
\n00:24:50,500 –> 00:24:53,800
\nmust ask ourselves.
\nThe question does or does not <\/p>\n

352
\n00:24:53,800 –> 00:24:57,200
\nthis new joxer and idea being
\nfoisted on the Ecclesia <\/p>\n

353
\n00:24:57,400 –> 00:25:03,000
\ncontradict the inspired word of
\nGod as defined in this line. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:25:06,700 –> 00:25:09,900
\nAnd yet today brothers sisters
\nalmost all of Christianity. <\/p>\n

355
\n00:25:11,100 –> 00:25:15,100
\nDeny that Jesus Christ came in
\nthe flesh. <\/p>\n

356
\n00:25:19,400 –> 00:25:22,800
\nThe Catholics believe it was
\nimmaculate. <\/p>\n

357
\n00:25:26,300 –> 00:25:30,800
\nBut they can’t see it.
\nCouldn’t see the air that was <\/p>\n

358
\n00:25:30,800 –> 00:25:34,800
\ngoing to a rods and John saw it
\nin his day. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:25:34,800 –> 00:25:42,300
\nSo he gave us a basis for truth.
\nAnd he showed leadership and he <\/p>\n

360
\n00:25:42,300 –> 00:25:49,900
\nprovides a line for Unity.
\nI think the truth is that much <\/p>\n

361
\n00:25:49,900 –> 00:25:55,200
\nof First John can be understood.
\nAt least have suggested it <\/p>\n

362
\n00:25:55,200 –> 00:25:59,000
\noriginally by HP Mansfield and
\nin white of this Gnostic <\/p>\n

363
\n00:25:59,000 –> 00:26:00,800
\ncontroversy.
\nI’ll show you a particular <\/p>\n

364
\n00:26:00,800 –> 00:26:06,500
\nexample because it’s in just its
\nthis example shows a fundamental<\/p>\n

365
\n00:26:06,500 –> 00:26:10,500
\nflaw in nasik philosophy that I
\nwant to use to draw agitation <\/p>\n

366
\n00:26:10,500 –> 00:26:13,800
\nfrom later on so the gnostics
\nbelieved as we previously <\/p>\n

367
\n00:26:13,800 –> 00:26:21,600
\ndiscussed that that God dwells
\nwithin them not figuratively we <\/p>\n

368
\n00:26:21,600 –> 00:26:24,200
\ncan understand how that works
\nfiguratively. <\/p>\n

369
\n00:26:25,300 –> 00:26:29,900
\nBut no no, they they believed it
\nwas true literally to the extent<\/p>\n

370
\n00:26:29,900 –> 00:26:32,600
\nof believing that their soul was
\nImmortal. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:26:33,000 –> 00:26:37,800
\nSo God is literally in them.
\nOkay to the point where they can<\/p>\n

372
\n00:26:38,200 –> 00:26:40,300
\nthey can hold it.
\nThat’s a greater Authority than <\/p>\n

373
\n00:26:40,300 –> 00:26:43,500
\nthe scripture is in terms of
\nwhat the will of God actually <\/p>\n

374
\n00:26:43,500 –> 00:26:47,200
\nis.
\nSo so God, so John then is going<\/p>\n

375
\n00:26:47,200 –> 00:26:50,800
\nto help them to see if this is
\nreally true or if they’re <\/p>\n

376
\n00:26:50,800 –> 00:26:53,400
\ndeluded.
\nHow do you know if God’s in you?<\/p>\n

377
\n00:26:55,300 –> 00:26:59,400
\nWell, John says going to say
\nThis is how you know of God’s in<\/p>\n

378
\n00:26:59,400 –> 00:27:08,300
\nyou. number one you love others.
\nVerse 12 if we love one another,<\/p>\n

379
\n00:27:08,700 –> 00:27:13,500
\nexcuse me in John chapter 4
\nverse 12 if we love one another <\/p>\n

380
\n00:27:14,000 –> 00:27:17,400
\nGod dwelleth in us as well as
\nperfected in us. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:27:17,700 –> 00:27:19,900
\nSo you want to know that God is
\nin you number one way. <\/p>\n

382
\n00:27:19,900 –> 00:27:23,800
\nYou’re going to know you’re
\ngoing to love one another number<\/p>\n

383
\n00:27:23,800 –> 00:27:27,200
\ntwo.
\nGod’s words and Doctrine with <\/p>\n

384
\n00:27:27,200 –> 00:27:29,600
\nand have power in you which is
\nspirit. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:33,100
\nSo verse 13, hereby.
\nWe know that we dwell in him and<\/p>\n

386
\n00:27:33,100 –> 00:27:39,800
\nhe in us because he has given us
\nof his Spirit was the third way.<\/p>\n

387
\n00:27:39,800 –> 00:27:41,700
\nYou’re going to know if God
\nreally dwelling in you. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:27:43,700 –> 00:27:48,800
\nNumber 3 verse 15 you have
\ncorrect Doctrine who has <\/p>\n

389
\n00:27:48,800 –> 00:27:53,100
\nwhosoever shall confess that
\nJesus is the son of God. <\/p>\n

390
\n00:27:53,900 –> 00:27:58,100
\nGod dwells in him and he in God,
\nso if you don’t have correct <\/p>\n

391
\n00:27:58,100 –> 00:28:00,700
\nDoctrine then God doesn’t dwell
\nin you. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:28:01,800 –> 00:28:08,400
\nFourth way you dwell in love.
\nVerse 16 be he that dwelleth in <\/p>\n

393
\n00:28:08,400 –> 00:28:11,400
\nlove dwelleth in God and God in
\nhim. <\/p>\n

394
\n00:28:11,500 –> 00:28:13,800
\nSo you can see the John’s giving
\nyou four ways. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:28:13,800 –> 00:28:17,200
\nYou might actually be able to
\ndiscern whether or not God is <\/p>\n

396
\n00:28:17,200 –> 00:28:20,700
\ndwelling in you.
\nHow can I know how can I know <\/p>\n

397
\n00:28:20,700 –> 00:28:24,200
\nthe truth of it?
\nAnd you can also see. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:28:25,800 –> 00:28:34,800
\nThat of the Four Points to of
\nthe 4.2 love so this is again. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:28:34,800 –> 00:28:36,900
\nI’ve been so I’m just kind of
\ntracing this out as I’m doing <\/p>\n

400
\n00:28:36,900 –> 00:28:38,700
\nthis tell you I’m I ask myself
\nthe question. <\/p>\n

401
\n00:28:38,800 –> 00:28:41,300
\nI think maybe Dennis has asked
\nthis question as well. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:28:41,400 –> 00:28:44,100
\nI haven’t heard his studies
\nunfortunately, but you ask <\/p>\n

403
\n00:28:44,100 –> 00:28:47,500
\nyourself the question.
\nWell why I love why was love the<\/p>\n

404
\n00:28:47,500 –> 00:28:51,100
\ntest.
\nWhy was The Well of the test if <\/p>\n

405
\n00:28:51,100 –> 00:28:56,100
\nGod is dwelling in me or not.
\nBecause more than anything else <\/p>\n

406
\n00:28:56,200 –> 00:29:07,700
\nbrothers and sisters. the
\ngnostics valued knowledge not <\/p>\n

407
\n00:29:07,700 –> 00:29:16,700
\nlove They thought knowledge was
\nthe key to God dwelling in them <\/p>\n

408
\n00:29:20,100 –> 00:29:27,800
\nand John disagreed.
\nJohn saying in effect God isn’t <\/p>\n

409
\n00:29:27,800 –> 00:29:32,700
\nfound via some secret knowledge
\nsome Revelation or <\/p>\n

410
\n00:29:32,700 –> 00:29:37,000
\nEnlightenment.
\nGod is found in love. <\/p>\n

411
\n00:29:38,900 –> 00:29:45,200
\nBecause God is love.
\nIn other in other words, the <\/p>\n

412
\n00:29:45,200 –> 00:29:48,900
\nthing the gnostics were
\nsearching for was that hidden <\/p>\n

413
\n00:29:48,900 –> 00:29:59,400
\nwisdom?
\nand that thing is love so first <\/p>\n

414
\n00:29:59,400 –> 00:30:06,600
\nof all loves stays as a contrast
\nto enlightenment. as the key <\/p>\n

415
\n00:30:06,600 –> 00:30:15,900
\nobject of a True Believer
\nSecondly, those who love God <\/p>\n

416
\n00:30:16,400 –> 00:30:20,700
\nwill obey God’s commands and the
\nNicolaitans famously didn’t <\/p>\n

417
\n00:30:20,700 –> 00:30:23,100
\nfollow God’s commands.
\nThis is actually pointed out to <\/p>\n

418
\n00:30:23,100 –> 00:30:25,700
\nus in Crystal Clear language
\nbecause look at first John <\/p>\n

419
\n00:30:25,700 –> 00:30:30,100
\nchapter 5 verse 3 for this is
\nthe love of God. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:30:33,100 –> 00:30:37,200
\nThat we keep his Commandments
\nand his Commandments are not <\/p>\n

421
\n00:30:37,200 –> 00:30:45,500
\nGrievous. love compels us The
\nkeep the Commandments and walk <\/p>\n

422
\n00:30:45,500 –> 00:30:49,900
\nin the way that Jesus walk.
\nTherefore love showed someone if<\/p>\n

423
\n00:30:49,900 –> 00:30:55,300
\nGod was truly in that person
\nbecause if God was in you would <\/p>\n

424
\n00:30:55,300 –> 00:30:57,900
\nyou act contrary to the will of
\nGod? <\/p>\n

425
\n00:30:59,900 –> 00:31:04,300
\nIf God and at the will of God is
\nsummarized in his Commandments <\/p>\n

426
\n00:31:04,500 –> 00:31:06,900
\nand someone doesn’t follow God
\nhis Commandments. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:31:06,900 –> 00:31:10,200
\nCan God really dwell on that
\nperson and could that person <\/p>\n

428
\n00:31:10,200 –> 00:31:17,100
\nreally love God?
\nAnd I got to tell you brothers <\/p>\n

429
\n00:31:17,100 –> 00:31:22,100
\nsisters.
\nIt wasn’t only the Apostle John <\/p>\n

430
\n00:31:22,400 –> 00:31:24,900
\nthat had this particular Point
\nfigured out. <\/p>\n

431
\n00:31:26,400 –> 00:31:28,100
\nDo you know who else understood
\nthis? <\/p>\n

432
\n00:31:30,800 –> 00:31:35,500
\nthe Apostle Paul was turning
\nback to Ephesians chapter 3 <\/p>\n

433
\n00:31:35,600 –> 00:31:43,400
\nverses 17 to 18 observe this
\nThis is Paul’s prayer for the <\/p>\n

434
\n00:31:43,400 –> 00:31:48,700
\nEcclesia in Ephesus.
\nAnd Paul says that Christ May <\/p>\n

435
\n00:31:48,700 –> 00:31:55,600
\ndwell in your hearts by faith.
\nThat being rooted and grounded <\/p>\n

436
\n00:31:55,600 –> 00:32:01,900
\nin love in love then you’ll be
\nable to comprehend with All <\/p>\n

437
\n00:32:01,900 –> 00:32:03,500
\nSaints.
\nWhat is the breadth? <\/p>\n

438
\n00:32:04,100 –> 00:32:06,800
\nWhat is the length?
\nWhat is the height? <\/p>\n

439
\n00:32:06,800 –> 00:32:13,300
\nWhat is the depth?
\nto know the love of God that <\/p>\n

440
\n00:32:13,500 –> 00:32:20,200
\npasseth knowledge Which is
\ngnosis? <\/p>\n

441
\n00:32:22,600 –> 00:32:25,900
\nThat ye might be filled with all
\nthe fullness of God. <\/p>\n

442
\n00:32:26,000 –> 00:32:28,000
\nYou want to be filled with the
\nfullness of God. <\/p>\n

443
\n00:32:28,600 –> 00:32:36,200
\nYou need a love that passes.
\nKnowledge that’s greater than <\/p>\n

444
\n00:32:36,300 –> 00:32:39,800
\nknowledge.
\nSo both Paul and John knew <\/p>\n

445
\n00:32:39,800 –> 00:32:43,700
\nsomething really important that
\nthe aim of this false Doctrine <\/p>\n

446
\n00:32:44,000 –> 00:32:48,700
\nwas not love.
\nSoul of the king the true test <\/p>\n

447
\n00:32:49,100 –> 00:32:52,600
\nfor the Gnostic as to whether
\nGod really dwelled in them. <\/p>\n

448
\n00:32:57,000 –> 00:32:59,200
\nBut as love a test for the
\ngnostics only. <\/p>\n

449
\n00:33:02,400 –> 00:33:05,900
\nIs love not a test for those
\nupholding right Doctrine as <\/p>\n

450
\n00:33:05,900 –> 00:33:09,400
\nwell.
\nYou see love unites. <\/p>\n

451
\n00:33:09,400 –> 00:33:12,100
\nIt has to because the two
\ngreatest Commandments are to <\/p>\n

452
\n00:33:12,100 –> 00:33:14,300
\nlove the Lord your God with all
\nyour heart soul mind and <\/p>\n

453
\n00:33:14,300 –> 00:33:17,700
\nstrength and to love your
\nneighbor as yourself. <\/p>\n

454
\n00:33:20,100 –> 00:33:21,800
\nSee the excitation of love God
\nalone. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:33:21,800 –> 00:33:25,500
\nIt’s that’s not enough because
\nin the process of loving God, I <\/p>\n

456
\n00:33:25,500 –> 00:33:28,600
\ncould easily develop a form of
\nself righteousness. <\/p>\n

457
\n00:33:28,700 –> 00:33:33,000
\nI might be so zealous for the
\nlove of God. <\/p>\n

458
\n00:33:33,100 –> 00:33:38,500
\nSo zealous that I make myself a
\njudge over other people than <\/p>\n

459
\n00:33:38,500 –> 00:33:42,300
\naren’t loving him enough or
\nhonoring him the way I think he <\/p>\n

460
\n00:33:42,300 –> 00:33:46,700
\nought to be honored.
\nSo I’ll cede from God his <\/p>\n

461
\n00:33:46,700 –> 00:33:49,400
\nrighteousness seed from God his
\njudgment. <\/p>\n

462
\n00:33:49,900 –> 00:33:55,100
\nA place that upon myself and I
\nas God’s agent will judge you. <\/p>\n

463
\n00:33:56,900 –> 00:34:03,600
\nBecause I love God so much.
\nAnd so so Christ knew that I <\/p>\n

464
\n00:34:03,600 –> 00:34:08,600
\nhave to couple.
\nThe Commandment to love God with<\/p>\n

465
\n00:34:08,600 –> 00:34:11,300
\nthe Fulfillment of that
\ncommandment and that command is <\/p>\n

466
\n00:34:11,300 –> 00:34:18,400
\nthen to love you as a result as
\nthe end result of loving God and<\/p>\n

467
\n00:34:18,400 –> 00:34:21,199
\nif I haven’t brought myself to
\nthe web of you, I haven’t even <\/p>\n

468
\n00:34:21,199 –> 00:34:23,900
\nunderstood the first commandment
\nlet alone the second <\/p>\n

469
\n00:34:23,900 –> 00:34:27,600
\ncommandment.
\nAnd that this would be able to <\/p>\n

470
\n00:34:27,600 –> 00:34:30,100
\nhelp us put down a vicious
\nPride. <\/p>\n

471
\n00:34:35,900 –> 00:34:39,500
\nAnd then Christ is going to go
\nand tell us that the definition <\/p>\n

472
\n00:34:39,500 –> 00:34:44,000
\nor the example of who the
\nneighbor is is a Samaritan who <\/p>\n

473
\n00:34:44,000 –> 00:34:49,100
\neven in Gospel of John chapter 4
\nWe’re told Samaritans worship <\/p>\n

474
\n00:34:49,100 –> 00:34:54,100
\nwhat they don’t understand.
\nSo love unites us with God, who <\/p>\n

475
\n00:34:54,100 –> 00:34:58,200
\nis the commander?
\nAnd with others who love at <\/p>\n

476
\n00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:04,200
\nGod’s command.
\nThe reason I point this out. <\/p>\n

477
\n00:35:05,600 –> 00:35:10,500
\nIs although Paul and John
\nclearly used love to point out <\/p>\n

478
\n00:35:10,500 –> 00:35:16,400
\nthe flaws in Gnostic thinking.
\nAnd we can see that can’t we? <\/p>\n

479
\n00:35:16,408 –> 00:35:25,000
\nHopefully we can But then Jesus.
\nin speaking to the Elders of the<\/p>\n

480
\n00:35:25,000 –> 00:35:32,700
\nEcclesia in Ephesus After
\ncommending them for not being <\/p>\n

481
\n00:35:32,700 –> 00:35:42,100
\nable to bear with the liars.
\nTells them they lost their first<\/p>\n

482
\n00:35:42,100 –> 00:35:49,000
\nlove.
\nAnd you can you get you can sort<\/p>\n

483
\n00:35:49,000 –> 00:35:51,200
\nof hear the Ephesian leadership
\nreading this going. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:35:51,800 –> 00:35:54,000
\nOh, hold on a minute.
\nHold on a minute. <\/p>\n

485
\n00:35:54,800 –> 00:35:57,600
\nIt’s it’s the rent this it’s the
\ngnostics. <\/p>\n

486
\n00:35:57,800 –> 00:36:01,400
\nIt’s these is these both
\nBrethren they have a problem <\/p>\n

487
\n00:36:01,400 –> 00:36:04,700
\nwith love thinking they have
\nspecial knowledge and that <\/p>\n

488
\n00:36:04,700 –> 00:36:08,300
\nthey’re so important how have I
\nleft my first love? <\/p>\n

489
\n00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:15,100
\nAnd that brings us to a question
\nof what’s the first love and <\/p>\n

490
\n00:36:15,100 –> 00:36:19,000
\nI’ve heard many wonderful
\nexpositions on this and and I’m <\/p>\n

491
\n00:36:19,000 –> 00:36:22,000
\nnot sure that the way I’ve come
\nto understand this is the right <\/p>\n

492
\n00:36:22,000 –> 00:36:26,200
\nway because every time I hear
\nsomeone explain this to me, I <\/p>\n

493
\n00:36:26,200 –> 00:36:30,600
\nlike their definition, you know,
\nand I but this is just the way I<\/p>\n

494
\n00:36:30,600 –> 00:36:34,100
\nsaw it looking at the lens of
\nthis study if you can just <\/p>\n

495
\n00:36:34,100 –> 00:36:39,900
\npatiently bear with that.
\nWhat might the first love be? <\/p>\n

496
\n00:36:43,100 –> 00:36:49,300
\nWell, I remembered that the test
\nif the test that Jesus commends <\/p>\n

497
\n00:36:49,700 –> 00:36:54,100
\nthe Ephesian leadership for
\nimplementing in Revelation 2 if <\/p>\n

498
\n00:36:54,100 –> 00:37:00,900
\nthat test is described.
\nAnd first John four then maybe <\/p>\n

499
\n00:37:00,900 –> 00:37:06,000
\nthe spirit is telling me to look
\nat first John four as a helpful <\/p>\n

500
\n00:37:06,000 –> 00:37:10,800
\nplace to understand this this
\nmany epistle in Revelation to <\/p>\n

501
\n00:37:10,800 –> 00:37:14,200
\nthe Ephesian Ecclesia.
\nAnd when I look in first John <\/p>\n

502
\n00:37:14,200 –> 00:37:18,600
\nfour, I can’t help but see these
\nwords. <\/p>\n

503
\n00:37:23,500 –> 00:37:28,400
\nWe love him.
\nBecause he first loved us. <\/p>\n

504
\n00:37:29,900 –> 00:37:32,100
\nIf a man say I love God and
\nhateth his brother. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:37:32,100 –> 00:37:37,800
\nHe is a liar for he that loveth
\nnot his brother whom he has seen<\/p>\n

506
\n00:37:37,900 –> 00:37:41,200
\nhow can you love God whom he has
\nnot seen and this commandment we<\/p>\n

507
\n00:37:41,200 –> 00:37:45,000
\nhave from him that he who loveth
\nGod love his brother. <\/p>\n

508
\n00:37:45,000 –> 00:37:51,300
\nAlso.
\nCould it be that our first love <\/p>\n

509
\n00:37:56,500 –> 00:37:58,900
\nIs that which is invoked within
\nus? <\/p>\n

510
\n00:38:00,700 –> 00:38:09,400
\nwhen we first contemplated God’s
\nlove when we first truly <\/p>\n

511
\n00:38:10,800 –> 00:38:15,300
\nunderstood that if that’s true
\nthen what would it mean for an <\/p>\n

512
\n00:38:15,300 –> 00:38:19,800
\nEcclesia upholding right
\nDoctrine to leave their first <\/p>\n

513
\n00:38:19,800 –> 00:38:25,000
\nlove?
\nWell, well if we comprehend. <\/p>\n

514
\n00:38:26,100 –> 00:38:28,800
\nIf we comprehend really that God
\nloved us first. <\/p>\n

515
\n00:38:30,100 –> 00:38:33,900
\nHow would that affect?
\nour attitude and perspective <\/p>\n

516
\n00:38:33,900 –> 00:38:39,700
\nbrothers sisters Well, well, I
\ncan’t I can’t speak for you. <\/p>\n

517
\n00:38:43,300 –> 00:38:48,500
\nBut if you truly comprehend it.
\nThen you would have a really <\/p>\n

518
\n00:38:48,500 –> 00:38:56,000
\ndeep sense of gratitude.
\nThey God would love me even me a<\/p>\n

519
\n00:38:56,008 –> 00:39:00,700
\nsinner and call me to something
\nthat I actually genuinely feel <\/p>\n

520
\n00:39:00,700 –> 00:39:07,200
\nas greater than I am.
\nWe would realize that we haven’t<\/p>\n

521
\n00:39:07,200 –> 00:39:09,200
\nearned it.
\nWe have an earned that love we <\/p>\n

522
\n00:39:09,207 –> 00:39:14,700
\nhaven’t deserve that love.
\nIt’s the first two of it’s a <\/p>\n

523
\n00:39:14,700 –> 00:39:19,500
\nsort of like the love a parent
\nhas to our newborn child. <\/p>\n

524
\n00:39:20,800 –> 00:39:24,600
\nThe hasn’t done anything to
\ndeserve the affection poured <\/p>\n

525
\n00:39:24,600 –> 00:39:27,600
\ninto it.
\nAll it’s done is made my wife <\/p>\n

526
\n00:39:27,600 –> 00:39:31,200
\nnot be able to sleep be grumpy
\nat me all this pain and all this<\/p>\n

527
\n00:39:31,200 –> 00:39:35,500
\nmoney, right and there it is a
\nbig lump of Flesh. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:39:37,400 –> 00:39:42,500
\nAnd I love it.
\nAnd I’d sacrifice myself for it <\/p>\n

529
\n00:39:43,100 –> 00:39:48,900
\nand it’s done nothing for me.
\nIt’s only made my life hard. <\/p>\n

530
\n00:39:52,200 –> 00:39:54,500
\nAnd I love it.
\nI love him. <\/p>\n

531
\n00:40:00,100 –> 00:40:05,400
\nNow if if you comprehend it and
\nyou are touched with that sort <\/p>\n

532
\n00:40:05,400 –> 00:40:11,700
\nof love with that sort of Agra
\npay. the kindness and the grace <\/p>\n

533
\n00:40:11,900 –> 00:40:16,100
\nand the mercy that you benefited
\nfrom you cannot turn to another <\/p>\n

534
\n00:40:16,100 –> 00:40:24,300
\nperson also in receipt of that
\nlove and say I deserve the love.<\/p>\n

535
\n00:40:26,400 –> 00:40:37,600
\nBut you don’t. or even worse to
\nsay I hate you. <\/p>\n

536
\n00:40:41,800 –> 00:40:45,300
\nComprehending the first two of
\nthe love you don’t deserve. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:40:46,400 –> 00:40:51,000
\nYou simply can’t look to another
\none who’s also receipt of it. <\/p>\n

538
\n00:40:54,300 –> 00:40:59,500
\nAnd hate them you can only ever
\nfeel that way as John tells us <\/p>\n

539
\n00:40:59,500 –> 00:41:02,400
\nin first John chapter 4.
\nListen, you can’t say you love <\/p>\n

540
\n00:41:02,400 –> 00:41:04,600
\nGod and hate your brother.
\nHow could you do that? <\/p>\n

541
\n00:41:04,600 –> 00:41:10,000
\nYou could only really do that if
\nyou felt that you’ve earned the <\/p>\n

542
\n00:41:10,000 –> 00:41:17,200
\nlove. and they haven’t that you
\ndeserve the love. <\/p>\n

543
\n00:41:21,200 –> 00:41:24,100
\nWith anyone that’s had two
\nchildren. <\/p>\n

544
\n00:41:26,900 –> 00:41:29,900
\nCould the first child say to the
\nsecond child? <\/p>\n

545
\n00:41:30,300 –> 00:41:33,700
\nI deserve mommy and daddys love
\nbut you little baby. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:41:33,700 –> 00:41:38,800
\nYou don’t deserve it.
\nWith that even make sense. <\/p>\n

547
\n00:41:44,900 –> 00:41:50,700
\nThe child couldn’t say that.
\nBecause it hasn’t been earned it<\/p>\n

548
\n00:41:50,700 –> 00:41:54,800
\nisn’t deserved.
\nSo if you’ve left your first <\/p>\n

549
\n00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:58,700
\nlove.
\nYou’ve left the love that God <\/p>\n

550
\n00:41:58,700 –> 00:42:00,400
\ngave you when you hadn’t earned
\na thing. <\/p>\n

551
\n00:42:02,800 –> 00:42:06,100
\nAnd you failed the follow your
\nKing’s Command that you love <\/p>\n

552
\n00:42:06,100 –> 00:42:08,700
\nyour brother even as God is love
\nto you. <\/p>\n

553
\n00:42:09,800 –> 00:42:15,100
\nSo perhaps just perhaps the
\nfirst love. <\/p>\n

554
\n00:42:18,700 –> 00:42:21,300
\nThat the faithful Brethren
\nEphesus who upheld the doctrine <\/p>\n

555
\n00:42:21,300 –> 00:42:27,500
\nLeft Behind was this?
\nBut how would they leave it <\/p>\n

556
\n00:42:27,500 –> 00:42:31,600
\nbehind?
\nCould it be that first John <\/p>\n

557
\n00:42:31,600 –> 00:42:38,800
\nchapter 4 was written as John
\nreflected on what was going on <\/p>\n

558
\n00:42:38,800 –> 00:42:43,700
\nin his Ecclesia.
\nThat John sits back and says <\/p>\n

559
\n00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:49,000
\nthis is what’s happening in this
\nEcclesia that I’m in in Asia. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:42:51,000 –> 00:42:55,900
\nI’ve just given you a test to
\ntell whether someone’s inner out<\/p>\n

561
\n00:42:55,900 –> 00:42:58,300
\nof the Ecclesia.
\nI’ve just give you the test now,<\/p>\n

562
\n00:42:58,300 –> 00:43:01,200
\nwhat’s the danger once I give a
\ntest like that? <\/p>\n

563
\n00:43:01,600 –> 00:43:04,200
\nWhat’s the danger wants a test
\nis lay down. <\/p>\n

564
\n00:43:04,200 –> 00:43:07,800
\nI say I’m on the right side of
\nthe line. <\/p>\n

565
\n00:43:09,100 –> 00:43:11,800
\nWhat’s the immediate danger
\nbrother sisters? <\/p>\n

566
\n00:43:11,900 –> 00:43:17,100
\nThat will happen?
\nI deserve the love. <\/p>\n

567
\n00:43:19,600 –> 00:43:27,900
\nYou don’t.
\nSo John reflecting on his own <\/p>\n

568
\n00:43:27,900 –> 00:43:32,700
\nEcclesia has to write these
\nwords and maybe Christ is saying<\/p>\n

569
\n00:43:32,900 –> 00:43:36,800
\nto that Ecclesia.
\nYou’ve left your first love. <\/p>\n

570
\n00:43:38,000 –> 00:43:42,500
\nYou haven’t earned this you
\ndidn’t deserve this and just <\/p>\n

571
\n00:43:42,500 –> 00:43:45,100
\nbecause you’ve actually kept the
\nword pure. <\/p>\n

572
\n00:43:50,400 –> 00:43:55,600
\nIt’s not that you know something
\nspecial. because as soon as you <\/p>\n

573
\n00:43:55,600 –> 00:44:01,000
\nthink, you know something
\nspecial Who you acting alike? <\/p>\n

574
\n00:44:03,800 –> 00:44:06,100
\nYou’re now acting like the
\npeople on the other side of the <\/p>\n

575
\n00:44:06,100 –> 00:44:18,300
\nline.
\nIf so, high ironic see love was <\/p>\n

576
\n00:44:18,300 –> 00:44:23,600
\nwhat the Gnostic Believers were
\nmissing by aiming for special <\/p>\n

577
\n00:44:23,700 –> 00:44:28,900
\nRevelation and knowledge, but
\nmaybe love was what the faithful<\/p>\n

578
\n00:44:28,900 –> 00:44:35,900
\nBrethren had left behind in
\nproudly believing that they were<\/p>\n

579
\n00:44:35,900 –> 00:44:39,600
\nbetter and deserving of the
\ntruth and the false Brethren <\/p>\n

580
\n00:44:39,600 –> 00:44:52,700
\nweren’t Just maybe. both
\ngnostics and true brethren <\/p>\n

581
\n00:44:54,200 –> 00:45:05,500
\nneeded to remember love.
\nSadly, we know that Pagan <\/p>\n

582
\n00:45:05,500 –> 00:45:10,100
\nphilosophy would overcome the
\nEphesian Ecclesia the <\/p>\n

583
\n00:45:10,100 –> 00:45:17,400
\nCandlestick and that Ecclesia
\nwould burn out. but actually in <\/p>\n

584
\n00:45:17,400 –> 00:45:21,000
\nthe end brethren this Ecclesia
\nlost the truth. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:45:21,700 –> 00:45:31,400
\nThat’s how the story ends.
\nBut I believe the Ephesian <\/p>\n

586
\n00:45:31,400 –> 00:45:34,200
\nEcclesia still instructs us how
\nto hold onto truth. <\/p>\n

587
\n00:45:37,400 –> 00:45:39,600
\nAnd hold on to each other in
\nthese last days. <\/p>\n

588
\n00:45:40,700 –> 00:45:44,500
\nAnd it’s asked me to remember my
\nfirst love and for that I am <\/p>\n

589
\n00:45:44,500 –> 00:46:03,400
\nincredibly grateful.
\nAs I was writing these studies. <\/p>\n

590
\n00:46:05,400 –> 00:46:14,200
\nMike Leisure was torn apart.
\nControversy took a United <\/p>\n

591
\n00:46:14,200 –> 00:46:19,800
\nEcclesia and made it into two.
\nI reckon I felt just about every<\/p>\n

592
\n00:46:19,800 –> 00:46:25,800
\nemotion you can feel in that
\nprocess. before the Collision <\/p>\n

593
\n00:46:25,800 –> 00:46:32,300
\ndivided every night I said
\nPaul’s prayer for Unity found in<\/p>\n

594
\n00:46:32,300 –> 00:46:35,500
\nEphesians chapter 3 verses 14 to
\n21. <\/p>\n

595
\n00:46:36,800 –> 00:46:39,200
\nI said it so often I practically
\nmemorized it. <\/p>\n

596
\n00:46:41,300 –> 00:46:44,900
\nFor this reason, I bow my knees
\nbefore the father from whom <\/p>\n

597
\n00:46:44,900 –> 00:46:49,400
\nevery family under Heaven is
\nnamed and I pray that according <\/p>\n

598
\n00:46:49,400 –> 00:46:54,600
\nto the riches of I Glory.
\nNow you might Grant my cliche to<\/p>\n

599
\n00:46:54,600 –> 00:46:59,600
\nbe strengthened with might
\nthrough thy Spirit working in <\/p>\n

600
\n00:46:59,600 –> 00:47:03,300
\nthe Inner Man.
\nThe Christ Jesus would dwell in <\/p>\n

601
\n00:47:03,300 –> 00:47:07,800
\nour hearts through faith that
\nbeing rooted and grounded in <\/p>\n

602
\n00:47:07,800 –> 00:47:11,000
\nlove that we might be able to
\nunderstand. <\/p>\n

603
\n00:47:11,000 –> 00:47:14,000
\nWhat is the breadth and what is
\nthe length and what is the <\/p>\n

604
\n00:47:14,000 –> 00:47:18,900
\nheight and what is the depth and
\nto know the love of Christ that <\/p>\n

605
\n00:47:18,900 –> 00:47:23,300
\nsurpasses knowledge and to be
\nfilled with all the fullness of <\/p>\n

606
\n00:47:23,300 –> 00:47:27,200
\nthee now unto thee who through
\nthe power that is at work within<\/p>\n

607
\n00:47:27,200 –> 00:47:33,100
\nus is able to do far more than I
\nask or I To thee be glory in the<\/p>\n

608
\n00:47:33,100 –> 00:47:37,500
\nEcclesia.
\nAnd in Christ, Jesus unto all <\/p>\n

609
\n00:47:37,500 –> 00:47:48,300
\ngenerations forever and ever.
\namen I prayed it over. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:47:49,500 –> 00:47:53,400
\nAnd over again.
\nBecause I didn’t feel like I had<\/p>\n

611
\n00:47:53,400 –> 00:47:56,000
\nthe words, you know, like you
\nyou ever feel present systems <\/p>\n

612
\n00:47:56,000 –> 00:47:58,700
\nlike you don’t have the words.
\nYou don’t know what to say to <\/p>\n

613
\n00:47:58,700 –> 00:48:00,800
\nGod.
\nYou don’t know how to articulate<\/p>\n

614
\n00:48:00,800 –> 00:48:02,700
\nyour pain.
\nYou don’t know how to articulate<\/p>\n

615
\n00:48:02,700 –> 00:48:04,800
\nyour problem.
\nAnd so you just borrow <\/p>\n

616
\n00:48:04,800 –> 00:48:08,300
\nscripture.
\nHe say Paul is going to take <\/p>\n

617
\n00:48:08,300 –> 00:48:10,000
\nthis.
\nThis is your prayer Paul. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:48:10,000 –> 00:48:14,300
\nI know it’s your prayer, but I’m
\njust well, I’m just going to <\/p>\n

619
\n00:48:14,300 –> 00:48:18,000
\nborrow it.
\nAnd just for for some time this <\/p>\n

620
\n00:48:18,000 –> 00:48:21,600
\nis going to be my prayer because
\nI can’t express how I feel. <\/p>\n

621
\n00:48:25,100 –> 00:48:28,500
\nThen one Friday night on hard
\nFriday night. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:48:28,500 –> 00:48:37,400
\nI got a phone call.
\nSaying that the Ecclesia was <\/p>\n

623
\n00:48:37,400 –> 00:48:42,700
\nsplitting.
\nWhat could I do? <\/p>\n

624
\n00:48:47,000 –> 00:48:51,500
\nWhat could I pray?
\nI reflected on these talks. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:48:51,500 –> 00:48:52,900
\nI had been in the midst of
\npreparing. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:48:56,700 –> 00:49:00,900
\nWhat did I learned?
\nHow do I learn to anything? <\/p>\n

627
\n00:49:03,200 –> 00:49:07,300
\nwas it just was it just
\nknowledge? <\/p>\n

628
\n00:49:11,100 –> 00:49:16,800
\nIt’s anything different.
\nAnd when we are hurt, we have an<\/p>\n

629
\n00:49:16,800 –> 00:49:19,700
\ninstinct to retreat when were
\nhurt. <\/p>\n

630
\n00:49:19,700 –> 00:49:23,100
\nWe have an instinct to divide
\nwith an instinct to separate. <\/p>\n

631
\n00:49:24,500 –> 00:49:26,800
\nAnd something in my heart want
\nto punish those brothers and <\/p>\n

632
\n00:49:26,800 –> 00:49:32,200
\nsisters.
\nSomething my heart wanted to be <\/p>\n

633
\n00:49:32,200 –> 00:49:33,900
\npart from them.
\nThey will be a part for me. <\/p>\n

634
\n00:49:33,900 –> 00:49:35,200
\nI’m going to be a part from
\nthem. <\/p>\n

635
\n00:49:36,800 –> 00:49:39,400
\nI felt anger start to swell to
\nthe surface. <\/p>\n

636
\n00:49:46,200 –> 00:49:51,600
\nWas that the spirit of Paul?
\nWhat’s that the spirit of John? <\/p>\n

637
\n00:49:53,600 –> 00:49:58,300
\nWho are dealing with
\ncontroversies in truth much much<\/p>\n

638
\n00:49:58,300 –> 00:50:03,000
\nmuch more serious.
\nThen the controversy we were <\/p>\n

639
\n00:50:03,000 –> 00:50:12,900
\ndoing within our Ecclesia.
\nI wanted to judge. but brothers <\/p>\n

640
\n00:50:12,900 –> 00:50:17,900
\nsisters I remembered my first
\nlove. <\/p>\n

641
\n00:50:24,600 –> 00:50:30,700
\nThe same love that God offered
\nto me when I was helpless. <\/p>\n

642
\n00:50:32,500 –> 00:50:36,300
\nWhat’s the same love he was
\noffering to them? <\/p>\n

643
\n00:50:41,500 –> 00:50:50,200
\nI to live in Salvation.
\nSo I fell to my knees once more <\/p>\n

644
\n00:50:50,200 –> 00:50:53,300
\nthat night.
\nAnd for the first time I changed<\/p>\n

645
\n00:50:53,300 –> 00:50:59,500
\na word in that prayer.
\nAnd the word I changed was <\/p>\n

646
\n00:50:59,500 –> 00:51:04,600
\nEcclesia.
\nAnd I changed it to a cliche <\/p>\n

647
\n00:51:04,600 –> 00:51:12,300
\ncuts.
\nI prayed for our Ecclesia has. <\/p>\n

648
\n00:51:14,200 –> 00:51:19,200
\nto have a love that surpasses
\nknowledge and for God to be <\/p>\n

649
\n00:51:19,200 –> 00:51:27,300
\nglorified in our equation has
\nboth of them I decided why Paul <\/p>\n

650
\n00:51:27,300 –> 00:51:29,600
\nI would emphasize what we have
\nin common. <\/p>\n

651
\n00:51:32,100 –> 00:51:34,500
\nThat I might have opportunity in
\ntime. <\/p>\n

652
\n00:51:36,200 –> 00:51:39,400
\nWhilst varying to discuss what’s
\nnot in common. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:51:39,800 –> 00:51:43,600
\nI learned this from Paul.
\nI learned this from John test <\/p>\n

654
\n00:51:43,600 –> 00:51:49,900
\nthe spirits if it is from God,
\nit will be motivated by love. <\/p>\n

655
\n00:51:53,300 –> 00:52:01,700
\nAnd we do love very much.
\nSo let me summarize a study that<\/p>\n

656
\n00:52:01,700 –> 00:52:12,300
\nfor me has defied summary.
\nGod is one. <\/p>\n

657
\n00:52:14,000 –> 00:52:17,700
\nLove God.
\nObey his truth. <\/p>\n

658
\n00:52:19,600 –> 00:52:23,900
\nFollow his commands.
\nLove the brethren. <\/p>\n

659
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