{"id":352,"date":"2019-11-28T04:09:19","date_gmt":"2019-11-28T04:09:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/060-karam-ram-the-life-of-god-and-human-sexuality\/"},"modified":"2026-07-17T07:55:00","modified_gmt":"2026-07-17T07:55:00","slug":"060-karam-ram-the-life-of-god-and-human-sexuality","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/060-karam-ram-the-life-of-god-and-human-sexuality\/","title":{"rendered":"060: Karam Ram – The Life of God and Human Sexuality"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week\u2019s talk is from 2006 given by Bro. Karam Ram on the subject \u201cThe Life of God and Human Sexuality\u201d, it was part of the study weekend at the Shirley Ecclesia in the United Kingdom titled \u201cWholly Holy\u201d.<\/p>\n

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\nlet’s hear more about this
\nweek’s talk. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week’s talk is by our
\nbrother Karim RAM and it’s <\/p>\n

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\ntitled the life of God and human
\nsexuality. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s part 2 and a 2 parter that
\nhe gave at a study Day in the UK<\/p>\n

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\nat the surely Ecclesia called
\nholy. <\/p>\n

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\nHoly H WL I holy, holy hly and
\nthis talk was suggested to me <\/p>\n

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\nafter we played brother Joe
\nMiles as talk two weeks ago, <\/p>\n

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\nwhich was actually from the same
\nweekend, and I was contacted <\/p>\n

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\nsaying He’s also listen to
\nbrother Karen’s classes from <\/p>\n

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\nthat weekend really enjoyed
\nthem. <\/p>\n

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\nHe specifically gotten in the
\nfirst class discusses how sex <\/p>\n

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\nand sexuality outside of the
\nmarriage bond is against the <\/p>\n

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\nwill of God and does not fulfill
\nwhat God wants or, you know, <\/p>\n

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\neither symbolically or in any
\nway he talks about how it <\/p>\n

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\naffects sex affects us mentally
\nphysically emotionally. <\/p>\n

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\nSilly and spiritually and when
\nabused and used outside of the <\/p>\n

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\ndesign of God, it affects us
\npoorly in those ways in the <\/p>\n

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\nsecond talk which is the one
\nI’ve played here. <\/p>\n

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\nHe talks about how God is a
\nrelational and marriage God and <\/p>\n

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\nhow he’s commit he committed
\nhimself to His People Israel and<\/p>\n

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\nhas now committed himself to us
\nand wants a marriage like <\/p>\n

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\nrelationship with us and he kind
\nof builds out that type to <\/p>\n

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\nstudying the word the Hebrew
\nword for know. <\/p>\n

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\nKnowing and how God wants to
\nknow us very symbolically in a <\/p>\n

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\nsexual way.
\nIt’s a excellent talk. <\/p>\n

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\nI really enjoyed it at
\ndefinitely led me left me <\/p>\n

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\nthinking and it’s going to stick
\nwith me for a while. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I really did want to share
\nit. <\/p>\n

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\nSo this is that that second
\nclass it is worth Annex claimer <\/p>\n

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\nthough that he does use fairly
\nspecific words when talking <\/p>\n

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\nabout sex anatomic words, I
\nguess at near the end of the <\/p>\n

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\ntalk.
\nSo I just wanted to touch the <\/p>\n

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\ntouch that as a disclaimer, but
\nstill I think a very very <\/p>\n

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\nbeneficial study and that’s
\nreally what it is. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is a study and an expansion
\non an idea of what sex <\/p>\n

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\nsymbolizes and and how it should
\nbe used and and a warning <\/p>\n

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\nagainst how it should not be
\nused. <\/p>\n

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\nSo here it is brother Karam Ram
\nfrom the Holy Holy weekend in <\/p>\n

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\n2006.
\nMy talk tonight is called the <\/p>\n

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\nlife of God.
\nAnd human sexuality. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, we touched on some of
\nthese things this afternoon, but<\/p>\n

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\nwe’re going to develop them a
\nlittle bit more this evening. <\/p>\n

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\nI want to talk about marriage.
\nBecause it will help us to <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand a lot of other things
\nif we understand what the Bible <\/p>\n

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\nsays about marriage.
\nMarriage in the Bible is more <\/p>\n

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\nthan just an actual contract in
\nwhich two people share a period <\/p>\n

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\nof time worldly goods and a bed
\ntogether. <\/p>\n

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\nYou know, you can have civil
\ncontracts now where you know two<\/p>\n

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\npeople of the same sex can be
\ninverted commas. <\/p>\n

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\nBe married.
\nThe point that I want to make is<\/p>\n

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\nthat that’s not really marriage
\nnot in the sense that the Bible <\/p>\n

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\nthinks of it.
\nAs far as the Bible is concerned<\/p>\n

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\nmarriage biblical marriage is
\nthe closest possible <\/p>\n

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\nrelationship between two people
\nbecause in marriage to a <\/p>\n

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\nliterally joined or glue
\ntogether to become one whole <\/p>\n

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\nperson.
\nOkay. <\/p>\n

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\nSo the the closest possible
\nrelationship that you can have <\/p>\n

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\nwith another human being is
\nthrough marriage. <\/p>\n

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\nThere is no other way.
\nThe most intimate relationship <\/p>\n

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\nthat you can have with another
\nhuman being is in marriage. <\/p>\n

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\nLet’s just go to Genesis chapter
\n2 and have a look at this. <\/p>\n

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\nLet’s just read from verse 21 to
\n25 again. <\/p>\n

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\nThe Lord God caused a deep sleep
\nto fall upon Adam and he slept <\/p>\n

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\nand he took one of his ribs and
\nclosed up the flesh instead <\/p>\n

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\nthereof and the rib, which the
\nLord God had taken from the man.<\/p>\n

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\nHe made a woman and brought her
\nunto the man. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Adam said this is now bone
\nof my bones Flesh of My Flesh. <\/p>\n

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\nShe shall be called woman
\nbecause she was taken out of <\/p>\n

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\nman.
\nTherefore shall a man leave his <\/p>\n

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\nfather and his mother and shall
\ncleave unto his wife and they <\/p>\n

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\nshall become one flesh and they
\nwere both naked the man and his <\/p>\n

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\nwife and they were not ashamed.
\nJust think about what this <\/p>\n

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\npassage is saying we talked
\nabout it this afternoon, but let<\/p>\n

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\nme just remind you of some of
\nthe points that came out of a <\/p>\n

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\ndiscussion.
\nAdam who was made in the image <\/p>\n

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\nof God Was separated into two
\nseparate beings into Adam and <\/p>\n

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\nEve.
\nHe wasn’t separated into Adam <\/p>\n

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\nand to Yves or even into Adam
\nand Steve. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, but Adam and one Eve and
\nthere is that profoundly Sublime<\/p>\n

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\nmoments and it’s it’s there in
\nin verse 23. when Adam <\/p>\n

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\nrecognizing himself because
\nthat’s what Adam does he <\/p>\n

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\nrecognizes himself and he says
\nbone of my bones and Flesh of My<\/p>\n

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\nFlesh.
\nI am thou and thou die. <\/p>\n

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\nNo distance, no fantasy.
\nNo lust or foreknowledge <\/p>\n

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\nintrudes here between the man
\nand his wife. <\/p>\n

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\nThere is only the Primal
\nrecognition bone of my bones and<\/p>\n

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\nFlesh of My Flesh and naked
\nbefore each other’s faces. <\/p>\n

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\nThey feel no sense of Shame no
\nsense of isolation in this state<\/p>\n

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\nof total disclosure.
\nThat completely insensible of <\/p>\n

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\neach other’s awesomeness.
\nNo shame of nakedness of <\/p>\n

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\nRevelation exists in this state
\nof complete relation. <\/p>\n

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\nHow could they feel shame and
\nembarrassment in each other’s <\/p>\n

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\npresence.
\nThey were the same being now a <\/p>\n

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\nUnited whole.
\nThey say that a that a picture <\/p>\n

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\nis worth a thousand words.
\nAnd so it is that the closest <\/p>\n

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\npossible relationship between
\nGod and the believer is also <\/p>\n

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\nrepresented as a marriage.
\nYes indeed. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is also a marriage as well.
\nThis is why the Bible presents <\/p>\n

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\nhuman marriage as a simile as an
\nimage of the Union that God <\/p>\n

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\ndesires between himself and his
\npeople God also wants to be one <\/p>\n

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\nspirit with us. now that’s quite
\nan amazing idea when you start <\/p>\n

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\nto think about it the God wants
\nexactly the same thing for <\/p>\n

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\nhimself and nothing from our
\neveryday experience gives us <\/p>\n

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\nsuch a direct insight into God’s
\nlife because marriage does <\/p>\n

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\nMarriage is something that
\nreally helps us to understand <\/p>\n

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\nwhat can help us to understand
\nGod and God’s life. <\/p>\n

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\nRemember, we asked the question
\nthis afternoon? <\/p>\n

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\nWhy does God say of Adam that it
\nis not good that the man should <\/p>\n

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\nbe alone.
\nWhy does God say that? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s because God recognizes
\nhimself as a relational being as<\/p>\n

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\na marriage being.
\nGod is a marriage thing. <\/p>\n

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\nProfoundly, he is an atom was
\nmade in His image. <\/p>\n

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\nAdams Union with Eve was simply
\njust a picture of God’s desire <\/p>\n

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\nto be with us to be married to
\nus to be married to human <\/p>\n

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\nbeings.
\nAnd this profound understanding <\/p>\n

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\nof God’s character is the real
\nbasis of biblical marriage. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s not a case of giving God a
\nhuman qualities rather. <\/p>\n

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\nOur experience of marriage is
\nactually an echo of the Creator <\/p>\n

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\nwho made us remember that we
\nwere made in the image of God <\/p>\n

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\nthe Creator who made us who
\ncreated our universe who <\/p>\n

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\nsustains everything who made
\npromises to the Patriarchs and <\/p>\n

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\nhas Future in mind for the world
\nthat he created human marriage <\/p>\n

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\nis just an echo of that.
\nI don’t know, you know, some of <\/p>\n

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\nyou are still fairly young here.
\nWhen I was a teenager. <\/p>\n

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\nI didn’t grow up in a Christian
\nbackground actually came from a <\/p>\n

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\nan Indian family but reading my
\nBible for the first time. <\/p>\n

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\nI was really struck by books in
\nthe Bible like Jeremiah and like<\/p>\n

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\nEzekiel and Hosea the describe
\nGod’s relationship with Israel <\/p>\n

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\nas a marriage.
\nI used to read 60 Jose Jose. <\/p>\n

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\nI was the one that I used to
\nread and I used to think. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is really weird.
\nI don’t understand this. <\/p>\n

139
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\nWhy does God talk about himself
\nbeing married to Israel? <\/p>\n

140
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\nAnd the first I used to think
\nthat this was just presumptuous <\/p>\n

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\nthat this was just the Hebrew
\nHebrew Prophets. <\/p>\n

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\nYou Know making perhaps a great
\ndeal maybe too much of God’s <\/p>\n

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\nrelationship with Israel.
\nLater on. <\/p>\n

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\nI used to think that it was an
\nexample of forgive the long word<\/p>\n

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\nhere anthropomorphism.
\nNow how many speakers get that <\/p>\n

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\ninto their toxic?
\nBut then later I realized that <\/p>\n

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\nGod himself is a profoundly
\nrelational being. <\/p>\n

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\nRemember, what what Moses said
\nin Deuteronomy chapter 10 have a<\/p>\n

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\nlook just come with me.
\nDeuteronomy chapter 10 I’m verse<\/p>\n

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\n20.
\nThis is what Moses says to <\/p>\n

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\nIsrael.
\nHe says Thou shalt fear the lord<\/p>\n

152
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\nthy God and him shalt thou serve
\nand to him shall cleave and by <\/p>\n

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\nhis name Shield, I swear.
\nOkay, look at what it says there<\/p>\n

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\nand to him shall cleave.
\nThat’s exactly the same word <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s used to describe the
\nrelationship between Adam and <\/p>\n

156
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\nEve in Genesis chapter 2.
\nTherefore shall a man leave his <\/p>\n

157
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\nfather and his mother and shall
\ncleave or be joined to his wife.<\/p>\n

158
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\nMoses exalted Israel to cleave
\nto the Lord their God using <\/p>\n

159
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\nexactly the same verb that
\nspeaks of Adam and Eve cleaving <\/p>\n

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\nto each other.
\nThey were to stick to God be one<\/p>\n

161
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\nwith him in the same way that
\nAdam and Eve were to be one with<\/p>\n

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\neach other.
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\nEve in Genesis chapter 2 are the
\nclosest picture that will get <\/p>\n

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\nbefore Jesus returns of the
\nrelationship that God wants with<\/p>\n

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\nus.
\nHave you ever thought about it? <\/p>\n

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\nThe God wants to be married to
\nyou. <\/p>\n

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\nHave you ever thought about
\nthat, but you could be one <\/p>\n

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\nspirit with God?
\nThink about it. <\/p>\n

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\nWe may think that that Adam and
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\nmarried.
\nWe may think the Genesis chapter<\/p>\n

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\n2 is only about marriage, but
\nactually what they’re doing is <\/p>\n

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\nthat they’re acting out
\nsomething for their and for our <\/p>\n

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\nbenefit as well.
\nTheir marriage was a simile it <\/p>\n

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\nwas the picture of God’s
\ncompassion God’s grace God’s <\/p>\n

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\npatience God’s faithful loving
\nkindness towards us and our <\/p>\n

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\nresponse of faithfulness and
\nworship to God Adam and Eve <\/p>\n

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\nrepresented us and God and the
\nrelationship that the God wants <\/p>\n

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\nwith us and relationship that we
\nshould have with with God their <\/p>\n

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\nrelationship was the picture of
\nGod’s desire to be with us. <\/p>\n

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\nAdam was in the image of God.
\nHe was God in the image of God. <\/p>\n

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\nA truly wonderful and profound
\nthing. <\/p>\n

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\nOne of the Psalms says let all
\nthe angels of God worship him <\/p>\n

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\nwhich is actually applied to
\nChrist was probably originally <\/p>\n

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\nabout Adam as the image is the
\nrepresentative of God who had <\/p>\n

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\nrulership and dominion over all
\ncreation. <\/p>\n

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\nAdam was in the image of God in
\nthis symbolic biblical exchange <\/p>\n

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\nand Eve was the Israel or the
\nchurch or the bride of Christ <\/p>\n

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\nthe Israel of God the faithful
\ncommunity of God. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is all about God really
\neverything in the Bible is <\/p>\n

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\nreally about God. in their love
\nin in the in the relationship <\/p>\n

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\nthat existed between Adam and
\nEve which is described in terms <\/p>\n

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\nof Flesh of My Flesh and bone of
\nmy bones and that sense of there<\/p>\n

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\nbeing no self-consciousness.
\nIn that love the glory of God’s <\/p>\n

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\nlife was present among them.
\nThey were the first Ecclesia. <\/p>\n

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\nThey were the first Jerusalem.
\nIn the New Testament Eve as the <\/p>\n

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\nas the wife of the private bride
\nof Adam is presented remember as<\/p>\n

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\na figure of the Ecclesia the
\ncongregation of the community of<\/p>\n

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\nBelievers whose head or husband
\nis Christ have a look at <\/p>\n

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\nEphesians chapter 5.
\nLook at the way that Paul uses <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis chapter 2 Ephesians
\nchapter 5 and verse verse 23 for<\/p>\n

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\nthe husband is the head of the
\nwife as Christ also is the head <\/p>\n

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\nof the church being himself the
\nsavior of the body, but as the <\/p>\n

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\nchurch is subject to Christ.
\nSo let the wives also be be to <\/p>\n

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\ntheir husbands in everything
\nhusbands. <\/p>\n

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\nLove your wives even as Christ
\nalso loved the church and gave <\/p>\n

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\nhimself up for it that he might
\nsanctify her having cleansed it <\/p>\n

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\nby the washing of water and the
\nword that he might present the <\/p>\n

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\nchurch to himself.
\nGlorious church not having spot <\/p>\n

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\nor wrinkle or any such thing,
\nbut it should be holy and <\/p>\n

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\nwithout blemish.
\nIt’s interesting that Paul there<\/p>\n

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\ntalks about the relationship
\nbetween Christ and the church in<\/p>\n

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\nterms of a marriage.
\nOkay? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s very much a marriage.
\nBut have a look at have a look <\/p>\n

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\nat verse 30.
\nFor we are members notice now of<\/p>\n

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\nhis body of his flesh of his
\nbones notice the Illusions. <\/p>\n

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\nThey’re back to Genesis chapter
\n2 for this cause shall a man <\/p>\n

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\nleave his father and his mother
\nand shall be joined on to his <\/p>\n

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\nwife or as the revised version
\nsays shall cleave to his wife <\/p>\n

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\nand the two shall become one
\nflesh. <\/p>\n

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\nRemember that this just Adam And
\nhe’s there wasn’t Adam until <\/p>\n

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\nhe’s there was only one atom and
\none Eve. <\/p>\n

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\nBut look at what he says in
\nverse 32. <\/p>\n

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\nThis mystery is great.
\nBut I speak in regard of Christ <\/p>\n

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\nand of the church nevertheless
\nlet every one of you in <\/p>\n

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\nparticular.
\nSo love his wife even as himself<\/p>\n

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\nand let the wife see that she
\nreverence her husband. <\/p>\n

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\nJust look at those verses again
\nin verse 32 and verse 33 He <\/p>\n

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\nquotes Genesis chapter 2 in
\nverse 31 there and then he says <\/p>\n

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\nbut I’m actually talking about
\nChrist in the church. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m not actually talking about
\nmarriage at all. <\/p>\n

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\nNot in the human sense of
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\nI’m actually talking about
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\nnevertheless he says.
\nMake sure that each one of you <\/p>\n

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\nreverences her loves his wife
\nand that the wife reverence is <\/p>\n

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\nher husband.
\nOkay. <\/p>\n

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\nSo what I want you to notice
\nthere is the way that Paul picks<\/p>\n

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\nthis up from Genesis chapter 2
\nand uses it to talk about the <\/p>\n

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\nrelationship between Christ and
\nthe church. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s as the Bride of Adam is
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\nEcclesia the congregation or the
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\nhead or husband is Christ.
\nPool makes it clear that he’s <\/p>\n

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\nreading Genesis 2 in this way,
\neven though he’s speaking of <\/p>\n

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\nmarriage between Believers.
\nHe states that Genesis is really<\/p>\n

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\nspeaking of Christ’s
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\nand the consequent relationship
\nthat should exist between <\/p>\n

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\nbelievers who are part of the
\nbody as Ephesians chapter 5 and <\/p>\n

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\nverse 32 tells us Have a look at
\nRevelation chapter 21 just have <\/p>\n

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\na look at this for a moment.
\nRevelation 21 and verse 2 and 3 <\/p>\n

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\nand look what it says here.
\nAnd I John saw the holy city New<\/p>\n

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\nJerusalem coming down out of
\nHeaven from God made ready <\/p>\n

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\nnotice.
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\nhusband.
\nAnd I heard a great voice out of<\/p>\n

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\nthe throne saying behold the
\nTabernacle of God is with men <\/p>\n

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\nand he shall dwell with them and
\nthey shall be his people and God<\/p>\n

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\nhimself shall be with them and
\nbe their God. and if we just <\/p>\n

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\nmove over now to verse 9 and
\nthere came one of the Seven <\/p>\n

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\nAngels who had the seven balls
\nwhich were Laden with the seven <\/p>\n

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\nlast plagues and he spake with
\nme saying come hither. <\/p>\n

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\nI will show Thee the bride right
\nthere’s that language again and <\/p>\n

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\nthe wife of the Lamb.
\nAnd he carried me away in the <\/p>\n

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\nspirit to a mountain great and
\nhigh and showed me the Holy City<\/p>\n

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\nJerusalem coming down out of
\nHeaven from God. <\/p>\n

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\nThe singer of the Bride of the
\nLamb or the bride of Christ is <\/p>\n

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\nused in Revelation in this
\nchapter interchangeably notice <\/p>\n

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\nwith the terms Holy City.
\nWith the terms New Jerusalem <\/p>\n

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\nwith the idea of the Tabernacle
\nof God. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat does that mean?
\nWhy is it used in this way? <\/p>\n

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\nWhy do we start off by talking
\nabout marriage and then all of a<\/p>\n

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\nsudden were talking about Christ
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\nWhere’s the slippage?
\nThe point is that these terms <\/p>\n

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\nholy city New Jerusalem, the
\nTabernacle of God these terms <\/p>\n

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\nare motives for the community of
\nGod for the people of God the <\/p>\n

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\ncommunity of God in its highest
\nand most idealized sense in <\/p>\n

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\nfellowship with God.
\nThis is the consistency this is <\/p>\n

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\nconsistent with the use of the
\nterm Jerusalem in the Old <\/p>\n

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\nTestament not just as a place or
\na city but as a as a metonym for<\/p>\n

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\nGod’s relationship with his
\nCovenant people in its most <\/p>\n

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\npersonal sense, and we could
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\nFor instance. <\/p>\n

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\nThe point is is that Genesis
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\nIs talking about the community <\/p>\n

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\nof God?
\nin fellowship with God <\/p>\n

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\nsustaining and having within it
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\nof God.
\nYou may think that you have to <\/p>\n

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\nbe married to be in God’s image.
\nThat’s the question that’s <\/p>\n

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\ncropped up a couple of times in
\nsome of the discussions that <\/p>\n

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\nI’ve had because obviously, you
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\nimpression here is got you makes
\nman in his own image Adam and <\/p>\n

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\nEve are then Adam is then
\nseparated into Adam and Eve and <\/p>\n

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\nthen we have even brought to
\nAdam. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd Adam said she’s bone of my
\nbones and Flesh of My Flesh and <\/p>\n

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\nthe passage says therefore shall
\na man cleave to his wife and <\/p>\n

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\nthey two shall become one flesh
\nand being one flesh there in the<\/p>\n

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\nimage of God.
\nThey become a reunited whole. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is the point that we are
\nmaking this afternoon. <\/p>\n

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\nYou may think that you have to
\nbe married to be in God’s image,<\/p>\n

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\nbut you can be part of Eve.
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\nin fellowship.
\nAnd so manifest squats God’s <\/p>\n

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\nBelievers and in that way you
\ncan be married to Christ and <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s something that we haven’t
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\nReally.
\nI think Andrew may have sort of <\/p>\n

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\nmentioned it in passing in his
\ntalk the idea that you could <\/p>\n

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\nactually be married to Christ.
\nRemember what I said at the <\/p>\n

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\nstart of this talk God wants to
\nbe married to us. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s all about marriage.
\nIt’s all about marriage all the <\/p>\n

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\nway through God is a marriage
\nbeing Christ wants to be married<\/p>\n

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\nto his people he wants to have
\nUnion with Now I want you to <\/p>\n

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\nthink about what I’m going to
\nsay now very carefully because I<\/p>\n

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\nthink this is really important.
\nThe most profound and intimate <\/p>\n

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\nAct of relation between a
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\nin the Bible as knowing right?
\nRemember we put up some of the <\/p>\n

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\nphrases that the Bible uses.
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\nit is an act of knowing.
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\nbecome one flesh to be intimate
\nwith somebody. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd again, I put it to you that
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\nHe wants that intimacy. <\/p>\n

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\nHe wants to know you and he
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\nRemember what God Said to
\nIsrael. <\/p>\n

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\nHe said to them.
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\nthe earth only you have I known.
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\nused to describe the act of
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\nand his wife.
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\nI known.
\nIt’s the the Hebrew word yada. <\/p>\n

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\nBut I want you to have a look at
\nthis passage Jeremiah says he <\/p>\n

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\nwon’t have a look.
\nMarriage is a wonderful thing. <\/p>\n

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\nHuman sexuality is a wonderful
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\nbecause it derives itself from
\nGod himself Jeremiah 31 and <\/p>\n

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\nverse 33 and I want you to To
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\nBut this should be the Covenant
\nthat I will make with the house <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:38,400 –> 00:24:41,400
\nof Israel.
\nGod is also the god of <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:41,400 –> 00:24:43,900
\ncovenants.
\nGod is always making <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:43,900 –> 00:24:46,000
\narrangements in relationships
\nwith people. <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:46,400 –> 00:24:48,500
\nThey shall be the Covenant that
\nI will make with the house of <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:48,500 –> 00:24:52,200
\nIsrael after those days.
\nSaith the Lord and look at What <\/p>\n

337
\n00:24:52,200 –> 00:25:00,400
\nGod Says I will put my law.
\nIn their inward parts and write <\/p>\n

338
\n00:25:00,400 –> 00:25:04,900
\nit in their hearts and will be
\ntheir God and they shall be my <\/p>\n

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\n00:25:04,900 –> 00:25:08,800
\npeople and they shall teach no
\nmore every man his neighbor and <\/p>\n

340
\n00:25:08,800 –> 00:25:13,800
\nevery man his brother saying
\nknow the Lord for they shall all<\/p>\n

341
\n00:25:14,300 –> 00:25:18,100
\nknow me from the least of them
\nunto the greatest of them. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:25:18,100 –> 00:25:22,400
\nSaith the Lord for I will
\nforgive their iniquity and I <\/p>\n

343
\n00:25:22,400 –> 00:25:26,700
\nwill remember their sin no more.
\nLook what God is saying here is <\/p>\n

344
\n00:25:26,700 –> 00:25:28,700
\na wonderful thing the New
\nCovenant. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:25:28,700 –> 00:25:33,700
\nGod says I will put my law I’m
\ngoing to put my law in their <\/p>\n

346
\n00:25:33,700 –> 00:25:37,600
\nminds and in their inward parts,
\nand they shall know me. <\/p>\n

347
\n00:25:39,800 –> 00:25:41,400
\nWhat was the law of Moses
\nwritten on? <\/p>\n

348
\n00:25:44,000 –> 00:25:49,300
\ntables of stone The law was no
\nlonger going to be written on <\/p>\n

349
\n00:25:49,300 –> 00:25:52,100
\ntables of stone.
\nBut instead what God was going <\/p>\n

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\n00:25:52,100 –> 00:25:54,500
\nto do was that he was going to
\nput it inside them. <\/p>\n

351
\n00:25:55,300 –> 00:25:59,900
\nGod was going to put his law
\ninside them and that’s notice <\/p>\n

352
\n00:25:59,900 –> 00:26:06,500
\nwhat Jeremiah 31 their says,
\nthat’s how they would know God. <\/p>\n

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\n00:26:07,900 –> 00:26:11,800
\nGod was going to put his law
\ninside them and that’s how they <\/p>\n

354
\n00:26:11,800 –> 00:26:14,800
\nwould know him.
\nThey shall teach no more every <\/p>\n

355
\n00:26:14,800 –> 00:26:17,900
\nman his Neighbour and every man
\nhis brother saying know the Lord<\/p>\n

356
\n00:26:18,200 –> 00:26:21,200
\nfor they shall all know me from
\nthe least onto them to the <\/p>\n

357
\n00:26:21,208 –> 00:26:25,200
\ngreatest of them.
\nSaith the Lord why because he <\/p>\n

358
\n00:26:25,200 –> 00:26:26,900
\nwas going to put his law inside
\nthem. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:26:31,000 –> 00:26:32,700
\nI don’t know whether you’ve ever
\nthought about it. <\/p>\n

360
\n00:26:34,100 –> 00:26:36,800
\nBut what God is saying or what
\nGod is implying here. <\/p>\n

361
\n00:26:37,700 –> 00:26:42,300
\nIs that the Ten Commandments?
\nWhat God’s seed? <\/p>\n

362
\n00:26:44,000 –> 00:26:49,100
\nThe Ten Commandments were God’s
\nseed they contained they contain<\/p>\n

363
\n00:26:49,400 –> 00:26:53,200
\nGod’s DNA.
\nWhat is the structure of God’s <\/p>\n

364
\n00:26:53,200 –> 00:27:00,100
\nDNA is it a double helix?
\nIsn’t it rather his compassion? <\/p>\n

365
\n00:27:01,400 –> 00:27:05,800
\nHis graciousness his patience
\nhis faithful loving kindness. <\/p>\n

366
\n00:27:07,000 –> 00:27:10,900
\nAnd remember what John says and
\nhe that is born of God does not <\/p>\n

367
\n00:27:10,900 –> 00:27:15,800
\ncommit sin because his seed
\nGod’s seed remains in him. <\/p>\n

368
\n00:27:17,400 –> 00:27:21,600
\nThis is precisely what God wants
\nwith us not just for us to know <\/p>\n

369
\n00:27:21,600 –> 00:27:27,700
\nabout him, but God wants us to
\nknow him and he wants to know <\/p>\n

370
\n00:27:27,700 –> 00:27:31,100
\nus.
\nSo wonderful thing. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:27:32,300 –> 00:27:35,500
\nThis is what human marriage
\ndraws itself from. <\/p>\n

372
\n00:27:36,000 –> 00:27:39,600
\nThis is what human marriage is a
\npicture of this is what human <\/p>\n

373
\n00:27:39,800 –> 00:27:43,100
\nmarriage is based on God’s
\ndesire to be with us. <\/p>\n

374
\n00:27:45,200 –> 00:27:48,400
\nAnd if in a marriage to
\nindividuals only appreciated the<\/p>\n

375
\n00:27:48,400 –> 00:27:53,900
\nmere facts about each other.
\nIf that’s all they appreciated <\/p>\n

376
\n00:27:54,600 –> 00:27:58,600
\nit wouldn’t be much of a
\nrelationship. knowing about each<\/p>\n

377
\n00:27:58,600 –> 00:28:02,400
\nother helps to build a
\nrelationship, but it isn’t the <\/p>\n

378
\n00:28:02,400 –> 00:28:06,500
\nessence of it marriage demands
\nknowing each other in a far more<\/p>\n

379
\n00:28:06,500 –> 00:28:13,500
\nintimate way and that act of
\nknowing Should profoundly alter <\/p>\n

380
\n00:28:13,500 –> 00:28:15,600
\nthe individuals concerned
\nforever. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:28:18,300 –> 00:28:23,600
\nIt should alter them mentally
\nemotionally physically and <\/p>\n

382
\n00:28:23,600 –> 00:28:29,600
\nspiritually remember what we
\nsaid this afternoon. intimacy <\/p>\n

383
\n00:28:30,100 –> 00:28:41,300
\nphysically emotionally
\nspiritually mentally God wants <\/p>\n

384
\n00:28:41,300 –> 00:28:44,000
\nto know us God wants us to know
\nhim. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:28:44,200 –> 00:28:46,300
\nHe doesn’t just want us to know
\nabout him. <\/p>\n

386
\n00:28:47,400 –> 00:28:50,400
\nI think collectively were very
\ngood about knowing about God, <\/p>\n

387
\n00:28:50,900 –> 00:28:52,500
\nyou know, we can reel off all
\nthe verses. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:58,700
\nBut knowing god.
\nKnowing god in a personal way in<\/p>\n

389
\n00:28:58,700 –> 00:29:01,600
\nthe way that a man might know
\nhis wife or in the way that a <\/p>\n

390
\n00:29:01,608 –> 00:29:05,200
\nwife might know her husband is a
\nvery different kettle of fish. <\/p>\n

391
\n00:29:06,500 –> 00:29:12,200
\nIt’s about taking into ourselves
\nGod’s seed remember the the DNA <\/p>\n

392
\n00:29:12,200 –> 00:29:16,700
\nof God the Ten Commandments God
\nqualities and characteristics <\/p>\n

393
\n00:29:18,100 –> 00:29:21,300
\nknowing each other is different
\nto knowing about each other <\/p>\n

394
\n00:29:22,400 –> 00:29:25,000
\nknowing each other when two
\nhuman beings get married. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:29:26,800 –> 00:29:31,100
\nThey are altered they are
\nchanged by their intimacy with <\/p>\n

396
\n00:29:31,100 –> 00:29:34,200
\neach other.
\nIt should change the way a <\/p>\n

397
\n00:29:34,200 –> 00:29:37,200
\nhusband and wife feel about each
\nother and themselves. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:29:38,100 –> 00:29:42,500
\nThey should become one being.
\nYou know when I was when I was a<\/p>\n

399
\n00:29:42,500 –> 00:29:45,900
\nbachelor, I didn’t really like
\nart. <\/p>\n

400
\n00:29:47,200 –> 00:29:50,500
\nI didn’t really sort of like
\ncoffee but my wife for instance <\/p>\n

401
\n00:29:50,500 –> 00:29:53,900
\nlikes art and coffee and wasn’t
\nan amazing thing that I learned <\/p>\n

402
\n00:29:53,900 –> 00:29:56,800
\nto like art and I learn to like
\ncoffee as well. <\/p>\n

403
\n00:29:57,400 –> 00:30:00,000
\nYou know when you’re in that
\nrelationship with somebody. <\/p>\n

404
\n00:30:00,900 –> 00:30:05,100
\nYou take home some of those
\ncharacteristics, you know you <\/p>\n

405
\n00:30:05,100 –> 00:30:07,000
\ngrow together you change
\ntogether. <\/p>\n

406
\n00:30:11,300 –> 00:30:17,600
\nAnd this also is profoundly the
\nknowing that God wants of us. <\/p>\n

407
\n00:30:18,900 –> 00:30:21,900
\nThis is the knowing that God
\nwants of us not just mere <\/p>\n

408
\n00:30:21,900 –> 00:30:26,800
\nacademic facts or apologetics,
\nbut God wants to fill you. <\/p>\n

409
\n00:30:28,700 –> 00:30:32,600
\nHe wants to inseminate you.
\nHe wants to fill me. <\/p>\n

410
\n00:30:33,000 –> 00:30:37,700
\nHe wants to inseminate me with
\nhis word with his DNA. <\/p>\n

411
\n00:30:39,100 –> 00:30:42,800
\nGod wants to change me and God
\nwants to change you. <\/p>\n

412
\n00:30:43,800 –> 00:30:47,700
\nHe that is born of God does not
\ncommit sin because his seed <\/p>\n

413
\n00:30:47,800 –> 00:30:52,300
\nabides in him.
\nGod doesn’t want me at academic <\/p>\n

414
\n00:30:52,300 –> 00:30:55,100
\nfacts or apologetics.
\nWe may be able to make a <\/p>\n

415
\n00:30:55,100 –> 00:30:57,600
\nthousand interconnections
\nbetween the Book of Revelation <\/p>\n

416
\n00:30:57,800 –> 00:31:01,300
\nand the rest of the Bible.
\nBut if we don’t know God it’s <\/p>\n

417
\n00:31:01,300 –> 00:31:07,800
\nnot worth a single penny.
\nKnowing god is what it’s all <\/p>\n

418
\n00:31:07,800 –> 00:31:12,400
\nabout.
\nHe wants to fill us so that <\/p>\n

419
\n00:31:12,400 –> 00:31:15,600
\nwe’re altered mentally
\nemotionally physically and <\/p>\n

420
\n00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:19,900
\nspiritually this is the true
\nknowledge or knowing of God. <\/p>\n

421
\n00:31:20,900 –> 00:31:22,600
\nIt’s a radical conception of
\nknowledge. <\/p>\n

422
\n00:31:22,600 –> 00:31:25,500
\nIt really is a radical
\nconception of knowledge <\/p>\n

423
\n00:31:25,900 –> 00:31:29,700
\ntranscending me enosis
\ntranscending mere acquisition <\/p>\n

424
\n00:31:29,700 –> 00:31:36,300
\nfacts this type of knowing this
\nknowing of God is life eternal. <\/p>\n

425
\n00:31:37,100 –> 00:31:39,900
\nRemember what Jesus says in John
\n17. <\/p>\n

426
\n00:31:40,100 –> 00:31:43,600
\nThis is life eternal.
\nThat they might Know Thee the <\/p>\n

427
\n00:31:43,600 –> 00:31:47,200
\nonly true God and Jesus Christ
\nwhom thou Hast sent. <\/p>\n

428
\n00:31:49,000 –> 00:31:52,200
\nHuman sexuality when properly
\nconducted within the context of <\/p>\n

429
\n00:31:52,200 –> 00:31:56,700
\nmarriage should remind us that
\nthis is precisely what God wants<\/p>\n

430
\n00:31:56,700 –> 00:31:59,900
\nwith us.
\nWhen God divided Adam into two <\/p>\n

431
\n00:31:59,900 –> 00:32:04,500
\nseparate beings as I said
\nearlier on she created a force <\/p>\n

432
\n00:32:05,100 –> 00:32:10,400
\nwhose real power is only really
\nclearly expressed in the Song of<\/p>\n

433
\n00:32:10,400 –> 00:32:13,800
\nSolomon.
\nWhich is the most logical book <\/p>\n

434
\n00:32:13,800 –> 00:32:18,800
\nof the whole of the Bible set me
\nas a seal upon thine heart as a <\/p>\n

435
\n00:32:18,808 –> 00:32:23,800
\nseal upon thine arms for love is
\nas strong as death jealousy is <\/p>\n

436
\n00:32:23,800 –> 00:32:27,600
\nas cruel as the grave the
\nflashes thereof are flashes of <\/p>\n

437
\n00:32:27,600 –> 00:32:40,400
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060: Karam Ram – The Life of God and Human Sexuality<\/a><\/blockquote>