{"id":344,"date":"2020-01-29T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-29T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/068-nigel-patterson-the-letter-to-the-christadelphians\/"},"modified":"2026-07-17T06:54:41","modified_gmt":"2026-07-17T06:54:41","slug":"068-nigel-patterson-the-letter-to-the-christadelphians","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/068-nigel-patterson-the-letter-to-the-christadelphians\/","title":{"rendered":"068: Nigel Patterson – The Letter to the Christadelphians"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week\u2019s talk is a class from the Shippensburg Bible School, USA in 2007 by Bro. Nigel Patterson from the series called “The Letter to the Christadelphians, this class is titled “To Those Who Have Not Seen My Face”.<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n

Send talk suggestions or comments to: GoodChristadelphianTalks@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n

For Show Notes, visit our website: Anchor.fm\/GCT<\/a><\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to the good Christian
\ntalks podcast. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi and I’m Chris.
\nThank you so much for joining us<\/p>\n

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\nweek for you to listen. <\/p>\n

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\nWith a short intro before hand
\nto kind of set the stage for the<\/p>\n

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\ntalk.
\nYou’re about to hear and now <\/p>\n

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\nlet’s hear more about this
\nweek’s talk. <\/p>\n

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\nThis class is by Brother Nigel
\nPatterson. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s actually the first class in
\na series on Colossians that he <\/p>\n

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\ngave at the Shippensburg Bible
\nschool and 2007. <\/p>\n

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\nThe title is to those who have
\nnot seen my face. <\/p>\n

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\nNow, this was a really good
\nclass brother Nigel to me is <\/p>\n

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\nvery easy to listen to he does a
\ngreat kind of a verse by verse <\/p>\n

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\nare picking out some themes from
\nColossians 1 and to make some <\/p>\n

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\nreally good points.
\nThe overall theme of this series<\/p>\n

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\nwas the letter to the
\nchristadelphians and he kind of <\/p>\n

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\nexplains that in the beginning
\nof the class but draws, excuse <\/p>\n

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\nme draws on the point of of the
\ncolossian Ecclesia being a place<\/p>\n

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\nthat Paul never actually visited
\nand we as yourself Ian’s being a<\/p>\n

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\npeople who never actually saw
\nour leader and our King the Lord<\/p>\n

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\nJesus Christ.
\nHe finishes the class on a theme<\/p>\n

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\nthat he really Expands through
\nthe rest of the series of just <\/p>\n

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\nChrist’s actual kind of Christ
\nfor the purpose of God being so <\/p>\n

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\nseparate from darkness and how
\nwe need to eventually what he <\/p>\n

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\nsays and the rest of the reasons
\nthat we need to Define ourselves<\/p>\n

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\nas absolutely separate, even
\nthough we make mistakes but <\/p>\n

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\nrecognizing that we are in line
\nwith the light of the world and <\/p>\n

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\nnot aligned with the darkness
\nreally enjoyed this class. <\/p>\n

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\nI think it’s a again easy to
\nlisten to very accessible. <\/p>\n

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\nHe has a Wonderful style I can’t
\nfind a series by Brother Nigel. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m hoping maybe someone else
\ncan that he does on the proofs <\/p>\n

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\nof the Resurrection, which I
\nheard as a young person, which I<\/p>\n

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\nvery very much enjoyed.
\nSo if anyone finds that that <\/p>\n

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\nwould be wonderful, please send
\nus your suggestions. <\/p>\n

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\nWe really do live off those.
\nWe thank thank everyone who who <\/p>\n

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\ndoes that send us emails or
\nmessages about about us <\/p>\n

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\nparticular class.
\nWe very much appreciate it and <\/p>\n

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\nthank you for listening.
\nHere is brother Nigel. <\/p>\n

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\nFrom 2007 to those who have not
\nseen my face. <\/p>\n

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\nWell, good morning everybody.
\nAlways nice to know there’s life<\/p>\n

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\nbeyond the platform.
\nWell now come straight away to <\/p>\n

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\nour first chapter of Colossians.
\nInitially, I just offered the <\/p>\n

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\ntitle.
\nThe left is the christadelphians<\/p>\n

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\nand just left the rest of the
\nhanging that thing book for the <\/p>\n

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\nBob wants to something a bit
\nmore precise. <\/p>\n

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\nSo it kind of gives the game
\naway but have a look at this <\/p>\n

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\nColossians chapter 1 Paul an
\napostle of Jesus Christ by the <\/p>\n

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\nwill of God and Timothy our
\nbrother to the Saints and <\/p>\n

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\nfaithful brethren in Christ.
\nJesus who are at colossi Grace <\/p>\n

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\nbe unto you and peace from God
\nour Father and the Lord Jesus. <\/p>\n

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\nJust Christ.
\nDid you see the word <\/p>\n

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\nchristadelphians?
\nBrethren in Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nWe’re in holy writ Brethren
\nassisted. <\/p>\n

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\nHow about that?
\nIt’s the only time the phrase is<\/p>\n

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\never used.
\nSo this is the letter to the <\/p>\n

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\nchristadelphians they may well
\nbe in colossae, but it’s the <\/p>\n

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\nchristadelphians.
\nSo we need to listen up to what <\/p>\n

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\nthis man has to say to us and we
\nshould also notice that this the<\/p>\n

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\nthe continuing theme through
\nColossians and either being in <\/p>\n

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\nChrist or in him.
\nIt occurs at least 12 times. <\/p>\n

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\nSo being in Christ in him is a
\nsub-theme in this in this short <\/p>\n

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\nletter, which the Apostle Paul
\npresents. <\/p>\n

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\nStewart and not necessarily a
\nriding a hobby horse here. <\/p>\n

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\nYou understand, but please
\nnotice. <\/p>\n

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\nIt just say brethren in Christ
\ndoesn’t say Brethren of Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I personally feel a little
\nuncomfortable when Brethren will<\/p>\n

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\nsometimes refer to our elder
\nbrother Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s generally on the basis of
\npassages like Hebrews to where <\/p>\n

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\nit made very plain that Jesus is
\npleased to call them Brethren, <\/p>\n

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\nbut what he chooses to call us
\nhis one thing what we are <\/p>\n

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\nallowed to call him is quite
\nanother and if if nothing else <\/p>\n

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\nthis week, I hope that when we
\nhave looked at the supremacy of <\/p>\n

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\nthe Lord Jesus Christ in the in
\nthe work of God our Father we <\/p>\n

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\nwill have a good deal more
\nrespect and reverence for his <\/p>\n

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\nson.
\nThen perhaps we may be normally <\/p>\n

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\nused to so it is brethren in
\nChrist. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so it’s chapter 2 really
\nwhere we have this first talk <\/p>\n

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\nhere to those have not seen my
\nface the picture on the screen <\/p>\n

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\nis all that’s left of colossi.
\nLet that be a warning to All <\/p>\n

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\nchristadelphians by the waist.
\nJust a mound. <\/p>\n

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\nWe don’t want to be a mound
\nBrethren and sisters. <\/p>\n

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\nOkay, so we just need to bear
\nthat in mind it but look at <\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nIt’s here. <\/p>\n

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\nIt is.
\nIt’s in verse 1 of chapter 2. <\/p>\n

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\nI would that you know what great
\nconflict I have for you and for <\/p>\n

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\nthem at laodicea and for as many
\nas have not seen my face in the <\/p>\n

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\nflesh and that’s us.
\nI’m done. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s confirmed, isn’t it?
\nJust and I’ve just taken you to <\/p>\n

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\nchapter 2 back in chapter one
\nthere. <\/p>\n

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\nWe give thanks to God verse 3 of
\nchapter 1 we give thanks to God <\/p>\n

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\nand the father our Lord Jesus
\nChrist praying always for you <\/p>\n

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\nsince we heard of your faith in
\nChrist, Jesus and of the love, <\/p>\n

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\nwhich you have toured all the
\nsaints so that they’re there <\/p>\n

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\nthey had heard themselves under
\nI think this is made clear in <\/p>\n

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\nverse 7 again of chapter 1 as
\nyou also learned of epaphras. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s a point that’s made later
\non in in the in the letter now. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s a curious thing.
\nIsn’t it? <\/p>\n

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\nHow are you you learn this from
\nepaphras. <\/p>\n

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\nNow.
\nHow come how come it wasn’t <\/p>\n

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\npoor?
\nI mean you got to be impressed <\/p>\n

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\nwith this man the Zeal for
\npreaching the word were just <\/p>\n

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\npull it was printed on the
\nforehead of this man and it <\/p>\n

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\nseems kind of odd to us that he
\nnever got there. <\/p>\n

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\nBut well, that’s that’s the way
\nit is. <\/p>\n

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\nWe are told he was in episode.
\nThis for three years. <\/p>\n

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\nSo these people never saw his
\nface. <\/p>\n

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\nThey never heard his voice, but
\nthey were persuaded on the basis<\/p>\n

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\nof somebody else.
\nNow. <\/p>\n

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\nThe analogy is not a good one.
\nI know but just when if you <\/p>\n

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\nremember this little scene here,
\nI just love this man. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is see me in an aged man
\nwho having having held a child a<\/p>\n

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\nbabe 40 days old.
\nThat’s all the Sovereign Lord as<\/p>\n

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\nyou have promised now this
\nMissed your servant in peace. <\/p>\n

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\nMy eyes have seen your
\nsalvation, which you prepared in<\/p>\n

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\nthe sight of all people and two
\nthings here are light for <\/p>\n

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\nRevelation to the Gentiles and
\nglory to your People Israel. <\/p>\n

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\nThis man never heard the voice
\nof Jesus. <\/p>\n

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\nHe never saw the things that he
\ndid. <\/p>\n

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\nHe never listen to the heart of
\nthe Man from Nazareth. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd yet he knew just by old but
\njust by holding the Babe he knew<\/p>\n

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\nthat the purpose of God was on
\ntrack. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s all I hate to see.
\nI just need to see the baby. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s all I’m happy now to pass
\noff the scene. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is the faith of an old man.
\nHe’d been waiting waiting <\/p>\n

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\nwaiting what he’d heard about
\nthis from somewhere else. <\/p>\n

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\nIn other words, the their Jewish
\nscriptures he knew of someone to<\/p>\n

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\ncome here he was but didn’t hear
\na word didn’t see anything that <\/p>\n

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\nthis child would do when he
\nForeground what will in a kind <\/p>\n

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\nof way that’s that’s where the
\nColossians were. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s that’s where we are.
\nI repeat that seems very strange<\/p>\n

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\nthat after three years in in
\nEphesus. <\/p>\n

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\nIt just doesn’t seem to have got
\nthere. and hello. <\/p>\n

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\nJust a map there which shows
\nwhere colossi is just in case. <\/p>\n

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\nHey, this is the first time I’ve
\ngot to play with stuff like <\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nYou have no idea how thrilled I <\/p>\n

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\nam.
\nSo don’t laugh too long, you <\/p>\n

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\nknow, but Colossus is there the
\nlittle crosses on their <\/p>\n

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\nobviously you can spot straight
\naway. <\/p>\n

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\nThey are reference to the 70
\nclich\u00e9s, which I’ve always taken<\/p>\n

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\nto have been founded at roughly
\nthat time that the preaching <\/p>\n

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\neffort in Asia was that was
\nquite extensive and it wouldn’t <\/p>\n

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\nsurprise me of all those he
\npleases were established at that<\/p>\n

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\ntime, but in Cleveland cause
\ncolossi and hierapolis, which <\/p>\n

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\nare mentioned here gloss is on
\nthe the South Bank of the river <\/p>\n

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\nof the river like us which is a
\ntributary of the river manned <\/p>\n

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\nwith from which we get the word
\nMeander, you know, you know <\/p>\n

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\nabout long rivers in the state’s
\nthe Mississippi, for example <\/p>\n

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\nwith all those Loops those
\nmeanders that’s where the word <\/p>\n

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\ncomes from from that particular
\nRiver than the main road from <\/p>\n

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\nfrom Ephesus to the Euphrates
\nused to run right through <\/p>\n

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\ncolossi is And by exert seas and
\nthe younger Cyrus on their <\/p>\n

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\nmarches, so colossi was of some
\nsignificance way back Herodotus.<\/p>\n

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\nCause it a great city of
\nphrygian in the 5th Century BC <\/p>\n

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\nand at the beginning of the next
\nCentury xenophon described it as<\/p>\n

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\na populous city wealthy and
\nlarge. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now it’s just a mound.
\nSo, you know downhill all the <\/p>\n

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\nway there was an earthquake in
\n1860 which kind of ruined things<\/p>\n

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\nfor them somewhat and it
\nbasically didn’t really survive <\/p>\n

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\nthat in any great way, but for
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\nthe Apostle Paul was operating a
\nfist of three years. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s interesting that he didn’t
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\nlook at the account in the Acts
\nof the Apostles and you remember<\/p>\n

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\nthat he’s there for Three years
\nyou think we’ll know where to <\/p>\n

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\nlook that’s a bit thin and I
\nsaid not a lot going on there. <\/p>\n

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\nJust so this is a quick recap.
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\nbrought To Us by the by Luke in
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\nof of pull and when you look at
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\nincidents themselves, you think
\nwell that’s never three years <\/p>\n

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\nworth and when you begin to read
\nwhat Paul writes elsewhere, <\/p>\n

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\nthere are other things emerge
\nEdging so we also find he had to<\/p>\n

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\ndeal with a series of problems,
\nwhich I’ve called here the <\/p>\n

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\nCorinthian problems.
\nHe wrote I believe it out for <\/p>\n

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\nletters to the Corinthians and
\nif you want to see this stuff <\/p>\n

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\nafterwards just to check it
\nthrough and see how you feel <\/p>\n

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\nabout it, but current really
\ndominated his life. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m suggesting to you and that
\nwould have been part of those <\/p>\n

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\nthree years and he talks often
\nwere certainly particularly <\/p>\n

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\ntalks about The moment they’re
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\nNow, please understand these
\nwriting this from from either <\/p>\n

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\nEphesus or from possibly from
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\nthat at the time that Paul
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\nimprisonment you and I as far as
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\nconcerned.
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\nprison once That was in Philippi
\novernight bed and breakfast. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, so, you know, so the
\nlanguage of Paul here brings <\/p>\n

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\nbefore as a whole raft of things
\nthat look seems very quiet about<\/p>\n

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\nwhat is it onion?
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\nbecause we kind of get off track
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\nHe talks about it being should
\ntrack, you know, this past <\/p>\n

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\nEaster to 2 Corinthians 11 is is
\nvery well known to us where he <\/p>\n

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\nlists all the things that he
\nsuffered for his Lord. <\/p>\n

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\nNow the only ship wreck that you
\nand I are And I know of is it <\/p>\n

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\nthe end of the actually the
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\nyet?
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\nYou know, I mean you got around
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\nYou never never a dull moment
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\nwonder I’m suggesting to you.
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\nthose imprisonments wasn’t in
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\nWould that keep him out of?
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\na thought and just throwing it
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\nMaybe he wrote a letter to the
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\nthan Rome.
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\nthere.
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\nfrom his own personal writings.
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\nwe then add his own personal
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\nAnd now we have a fuller picture
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\nindeed some of those
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\nfor whatever reason we can well
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\nreach All that is here or
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\nget to write to the
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\ndoes seem to me.
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\nteaching that’s come from within
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\nand sisters or perhaps being
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\nage in which they live more than
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\nI just point out to you verse 3
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\nIt says they’re continuing if
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\ngot for as many as not see my
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\nDo that their hearts might be
\ncomforted being knit together in<\/p>\n

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\nlove unto all Riches of the full
\nAssurance of understanding to <\/p>\n

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\nthe acknowledgement of the
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\nand of Christ.
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\nspecial knowledge that began to
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\nThe the Ecclesia has in this
\npart of the World gnosis <\/p>\n

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\nKnowledge.
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\nin you can pick we should pick
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\nGod willing in one of our other
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\nThere are other elements which
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\nyou know, and the overall impact
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\nsuggest the need for form or in
\ntheir spiritual life. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was this to say, well that’s
\nwhy we’re glad you’ve received <\/p>\n

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\nthe gospel.
\nIt’s good news, isn’t it the <\/p>\n

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\ngospel and now we may need just
\nto tweak it up a little bit, you<\/p>\n

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\nknow.
\nCircumcision really good thing <\/p>\n

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\nto follow the law and this this
\nknowledge you want deeper <\/p>\n

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\nknowledge.
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\nadded to the simple gospel that
\nhad been presented in this case <\/p>\n

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\nby epaphras not by Paul.
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\nincidentally you check out the
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\nIt was happening there and I may
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\nthat Galatians would if he
\nwasn’t the first letter that <\/p>\n

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\nPaul ever wrote it Close that
\nway so very early on things. <\/p>\n

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\nWere you sneaking into the
\nEcclesia there and throwing our <\/p>\n

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\nbrothers and sisters of
\nTravelers is dangerous because <\/p>\n

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\nthis is a Jesus plus gospel.
\nWhat kind of a gospel is that? <\/p>\n

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\nThe message that comes from
\nscripture brother and sisters is<\/p>\n

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\nthat Jesus is all we need.
\nGod has provided everything we <\/p>\n

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\nneed in his son and the and this
\nis interesting maths, isn’t it? <\/p>\n

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\nThe moment you add anything to
\nJesus you automatically take <\/p>\n

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\naway from him.
\nWe have to fully understand the <\/p>\n

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\nMerit of the death and the blood
\nand the resurrection of the Lord<\/p>\n

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\nJesus Christ, and there were
\npeople here or just adding a <\/p>\n

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\nlittle bit to the gospel adding
\na little bit here. <\/p>\n

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\nYour spiritual life isn’t He
\ncompleted you need to be sure <\/p>\n

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\nabout this says Paul don’t do
\nit. 2007 let’s not pretend it <\/p>\n

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\ncan’t happen amongst ourselves
\nbrother and sisters stick to the<\/p>\n

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\nsimple gospel.
\nLet’s not insist on anything <\/p>\n

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\nelse where we it is suggested
\nthat perhaps we are in <\/p>\n

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\ncompleting our knowledge.
\nIt does happen. <\/p>\n

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\nIt can happen is happening here
\nthe christadelphians in colossae<\/p>\n

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\nhave to face this and Paul is
\nsaying stop it. <\/p>\n

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\nDon’t do it.
\nHe’s very anxiously for their <\/p>\n

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\ntheir spiritual welfare.
\nAnd having heard of their <\/p>\n

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\nthey’re good start in our praise
\nfor them and we are still here <\/p>\n

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\nin in Colossians 2.
\nHe look at this. <\/p>\n

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\nDo I mean Colossians 2 now?
\nI don’t I really don’t know <\/p>\n

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\nwhat’s going on up here.
\nBelieve me verse verse 3 of <\/p>\n

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\nchapter 1 give thanks to God and
\nthe father our lord Jesus we <\/p>\n

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\ngive thanks to God and the
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\npraying always for you since we
\nheard of your faith in Christ <\/p>\n

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\nJesus and the love you have to
\nall the saints for the hope. <\/p>\n

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\nVersions that’s because of the
\nHope which is laid up for you in<\/p>\n

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\nthe heaven where of you heard
\nbefore in the word of truth of <\/p>\n

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\nthe Gospel.
\nHe prays for them and didn’t <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand that you may already
\nhave these highlighted for you <\/p>\n

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\nthere in verse 4, we have faith
\nand love and in verse 5, we have<\/p>\n

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\nhope the three pillars of a
\ndisciples life all brought <\/p>\n

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\ntogether by the Apostle loved
\none towards another notice that <\/p>\n

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\nand and I draw your attention to
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\nhalf of verse 4 and he is glad
\nthat he’s heard about the love <\/p>\n

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\nthat they have toured all sense
\nnotice this because of the Hope <\/p>\n

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\nwhich is laid look laid up for
\nyou in the heavens their faith <\/p>\n

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\nand their love are driven by
\ntheir hope. <\/p>\n

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\nThese are not separated items
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\ngeared to the hope that they
\nhave. <\/p>\n

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\nWell, the Apostle Paul has
\nsomething to say about this. <\/p>\n

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\nWe won’t look at it now, but
\nyou’ll remember in the <\/p>\n

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\nresurrection passage First
\nCorinthians 15 where bottle <\/p>\n

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\ntakes time out to deal with yet
\nanother doctrinal issue, which <\/p>\n

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\nwas clearly creating some
\nproblems in Corinth, but it’s <\/p>\n

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\nprincipally where he says, you
\nknow, if if it’s only in this <\/p>\n

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\nlife we have any joy in the Lord
\nJesus Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nWe are just so pitiable people.
\nAnd if our Christian Life is In <\/p>\n

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\nterms of only of this world.
\nThen faith is a mockery and <\/p>\n

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\nmorality is a complete waste of
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\nSo this Faith this hope is
\ndriven by a hope of something to<\/p>\n

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\ncome.
\nIsn’t that right? <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s really saying here.
\nIt’s laid up for you in the <\/p>\n

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\nheavens where of you heard
\nbefore in the word of the truth <\/p>\n

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\nof the Gospel if if our power
\nconnection with Christ is only <\/p>\n

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\nto do with this present world
\nthan frankly the only logical <\/p>\n

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\noutcome.
\nUsed to eat and to drink for <\/p>\n

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\ntomorrow we die.
\nSo here we have it these <\/p>\n

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\nchristadelphians here their
\nfaith in the love has been <\/p>\n

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\nnourished.
\nNot not by their own will but by<\/p>\n

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\nthe solid fact of God’s promises
\nthat the help of the second <\/p>\n

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\ncoming the hope of the
\nresurrection of the hope of Life<\/p>\n

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\nEverlasting and of course it
\nrests with God it’s laid up in <\/p>\n

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\nheaven with him.
\nThat’s a powerful image, which <\/p>\n

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\nif I remember it will pick up
\neither later on in this talk or <\/p>\n

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\nlater on in the week which comes
\nout in chapter 3, but in the <\/p>\n

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\nfirst instance, this is laid up
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\nsafe place as it could possibly
\nbe enough. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is one of those passages in
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\nor the sister who may sometimes
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\nkingdom or be that they just
\nhave a feeling they may not make<\/p>\n

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\nit There’s at least two passages
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\nAnd this is one of them where
\nyour Eternal welfare. <\/p>\n

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\nYour eternal life is locked in
\nthe safest Vault that there is <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s in heaven secure with our
\nfather. <\/p>\n

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\nHe has something more to say
\nabout that later on. <\/p>\n

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\nIf I remember we’ll have a look
\nat that. <\/p>\n

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\nSo the hope of glory is with him
\nfrom whose presence. <\/p>\n

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\nWe await the sun’s return to
\nreveal That Glory to us and <\/p>\n

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\ninners and you’ll notice how
\nthat this this. <\/p>\n

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\nHope has been planted.
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\n00:20:34,200 –> 00:20:36,000
\nthe truth of the Gospel end of
\nverse. <\/p>\n

328
\n00:20:36,300 –> 00:20:39,300
\nI’ve been to six which is come
\nunto you as it is in all the <\/p>\n

329
\n00:20:39,300 –> 00:20:43,300
\nworld and brings forth fruit as
\nit does also in you since the <\/p>\n

330
\n00:20:43,300 –> 00:20:48,200
\nday you heard of it and knew the
\ngrace of God in truth the fruit <\/p>\n

331
\n00:20:48,200 –> 00:20:51,700
\nbearing power of the Gospel.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

332
\n00:20:51,700 –> 00:20:55,500
\nThese are new creatures.
\nThis isn’t they represent a new <\/p>\n

333
\n00:20:55,500 –> 00:20:59,300
\ncreation?
\nIn the Lord Jesus Christ, I mean<\/p>\n

334
\n00:20:59,500 –> 00:21:02,900
\nthe gospel is like and here if
\nyou wish to to a tree isn’t it? <\/p>\n

335
\n00:21:02,900 –> 00:21:10,100
\nYou know yielding fruit whose
\nseed is in itself just as it was<\/p>\n

336
\n00:21:10,100 –> 00:21:17,200
\nin the first Creation in Genesis
\nin Genesis 1 and that’s fine so <\/p>\n

337
\n00:21:17,200 –> 00:21:23,500
\nfar, but he doesn’t stop there
\ndoesn’t the doesn’t the Apostle <\/p>\n

338
\n00:21:23,900 –> 00:21:28,400
\nverse 9 for this cause we also
\nsince the Day, we heard it do <\/p>\n

339
\n00:21:28,400 –> 00:21:31,800
\nnot cease to pray for you.
\nAnd to desire the you might be <\/p>\n

340
\n00:21:31,800 –> 00:21:36,700
\nfilled with the knowledge of his
\nwill in all wisdom and spiritual<\/p>\n

341
\n00:21:37,000 –> 00:21:42,100
\nunderstanding us sounds it
\nsounds intellectually and <\/p>\n

342
\n00:21:42,500 –> 00:21:46,900
\nspiritually Superior, don’t it?
\nCertainly in terms of an <\/p>\n

343
\n00:21:46,900 –> 00:21:51,400
\nattitude, but it isn’t that’s
\nnot there in the mind of the <\/p>\n

344
\n00:21:51,400 –> 00:21:55,200
\nApostle Paul here at or me some
\nthen and you have to say now may<\/p>\n

345
\n00:21:55,200 –> 00:22:01,200
\nmake great claims for themselves
\nin this respect of that kind of <\/p>\n

346
\n00:22:01,200 –> 00:22:06,700
\nknowledge and wisdom and
\nunderstanding that fail failed a<\/p>\n

347
\n00:22:06,708 –> 00:22:10,800
\nstandard of the next verse.
\nIn fact, you can’t get to verse <\/p>\n

348
\n00:22:10,800 –> 00:22:14,700
\n10 except through verse 9.
\nSo let’s do that this cause we <\/p>\n

349
\n00:22:14,700 –> 00:22:18,400
\nalso for the Cause we also since
\nthe day we heard of it beginning<\/p>\n

350
\n00:22:18,400 –> 00:22:22,000
\nof verse 9 do not cease to pray
\nfor you to desire that you might<\/p>\n

351
\n00:22:22,000 –> 00:22:24,400
\nbe filled with the knowledge of
\nhis will in all wisdom and <\/p>\n

352
\n00:22:24,400 –> 00:22:28,800
\nspiritual understanding that you
\nmight walk worthy of the Lord <\/p>\n

353
\n00:22:28,800 –> 00:22:31,900
\nand to all Blake old pleasing
\nbeing fruitful in every good <\/p>\n

354
\n00:22:31,900 –> 00:22:34,400
\nwork and increasing in the
\nknowledge of God. <\/p>\n

355
\n00:22:34,400 –> 00:22:37,200
\nThere’s that sense of
\nfruitfulness again brought to <\/p>\n

356
\n00:22:37,200 –> 00:22:43,800
\nour attention.
\nSo verse 9 and verse 10 are <\/p>\n

357
\n00:22:43,800 –> 00:22:48,200
\nlinked together.
\nJames has a useful comment to <\/p>\n

358
\n00:22:48,208 –> 00:22:52,400
\nmake on this one, but the wisdom
\nthat comes from Heaven is first <\/p>\n

359
\n00:22:52,400 –> 00:22:56,000
\nof all pure.
\nThis is a sideways knock at <\/p>\n

360
\n00:22:56,000 –> 00:23:00,300
\nthose people in those days who
\nwere trying to introduce better <\/p>\n

361
\n00:23:00,300 –> 00:23:05,100
\nknowledge.
\nAnd Paul is saying nonsense the <\/p>\n

362
\n00:23:05,100 –> 00:23:09,200
\nwisdom that comes from Heaven is
\nfirst of all, pure then <\/p>\n

363
\n00:23:09,200 –> 00:23:14,300
\npeace-loving considerate
\nsubmissive full of mercy and <\/p>\n

364
\n00:23:14,300 –> 00:23:20,100
\ngood fruit impartial and sincere
\nand if I’ve got this right, I <\/p>\n

365
\n00:23:20,100 –> 00:23:22,400
\nhaven’t so nevermind.
\nI thought was a verse 18 to come<\/p>\n

366
\n00:23:22,400 –> 00:23:24,600
\nas well.
\nBut maybe maybe that’s enough to<\/p>\n

367
\n00:23:24,600 –> 00:23:26,900
\nstart off with.
\nI’m not sure what I’m making my <\/p>\n

368
\n00:23:26,900 –> 00:23:31,200
\npoint here clear in verse 9.
\nWe have a great statement about <\/p>\n

369
\n00:23:31,400 –> 00:23:36,300
\nwisdom. and spiritual
\nunderstanding and knowledge that<\/p>\n

370
\n00:23:36,300 –> 00:23:40,500
\ncan take a brother or a sister
\nalmost out of the real world. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:23:42,500 –> 00:23:45,600
\nThe real wisdom that is from
\nabove does that for your brother<\/p>\n

372
\n00:23:45,600 –> 00:23:49,900
\nand sisters?
\nWe have truly learned from <\/p>\n

373
\n00:23:49,900 –> 00:23:52,100
\nheaven.
\nWe have true understanding we <\/p>\n

374
\n00:23:52,100 –> 00:23:55,900
\nhave true knowledge if these
\nthings are true of us <\/p>\n

375
\n00:23:56,400 –> 00:24:01,000
\nconsiderate submissive
\npeace-loving full of mercy and <\/p>\n

376
\n00:24:01,000 –> 00:24:05,400
\ngood fruit.
\nAnd I have a shoe suspicion that<\/p>\n

377
\n00:24:05,400 –> 00:24:07,900
\nin this room.
\nThere isn’t a single person who <\/p>\n

378
\n00:24:07,900 –> 00:24:12,300
\ncould claim fully to have all
\nthose things as part and parcel <\/p>\n

379
\n00:24:12,300 –> 00:24:18,400
\nof their life day by day.
\nWe have a lot to learn. in order<\/p>\n

380
\n00:24:18,400 –> 00:24:28,100
\nto do so that kind of knowledge
\ndoes make big demands of us. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:24:30,500 –> 00:24:35,800
\nJust recapping 10 again that you
\nmight walk worthily revised <\/p>\n

382
\n00:24:35,800 –> 00:24:39,400
\nversion of the Lord unto all
\npleasing. <\/p>\n

383
\n00:24:39,400 –> 00:24:45,800
\nIt is only Christian Living when
\nit is worthy of so great a Lord <\/p>\n

384
\n00:24:45,900 –> 00:24:50,800
\nand Master The Obedience that we
\npractice must be sufficient to <\/p>\n

385
\n00:24:50,800 –> 00:24:54,700
\ngive the world a glimpse of the
\nman that we have said we are <\/p>\n

386
\n00:24:54,700 –> 00:25:01,000
\ngoing to follow The man that we
\nare committed to to pick up up <\/p>\n

387
\n00:25:01,000 –> 00:25:04,000
\nwith the marks comments in the
\nprevious class. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:25:04,800 –> 00:25:09,200
\nSomething of the Lord should be
\nseen in our lives that’s <\/p>\n

389
\n00:25:09,200 –> 00:25:14,400
\nimplicit in the language here
\nand not least two to walk <\/p>\n

390
\n00:25:14,400 –> 00:25:20,000
\nworthily of Christ is to walk in
\nharmony with other Brethren and <\/p>\n

391
\n00:25:20,000 –> 00:25:23,800
\nsisters, you know, it clear
\nvisual disharmony ecclesial <\/p>\n

392
\n00:25:23,800 –> 00:25:27,500
\ndisunity is Unworthy of him a
\nnew commandment. <\/p>\n

393
\n00:25:27,500 –> 00:25:31,600
\nI give you love one another as I
\nhave loved you. <\/p>\n

394
\n00:25:31,600 –> 00:25:34,800
\nSo you must love one another by
\nthis all men. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:25:34,800 –> 00:25:37,400
\nMen will know that you are my
\ndisciples. <\/p>\n

396
\n00:25:37,500 –> 00:25:41,900
\nIf you love one another without
\nthat the world has got no <\/p>\n

397
\n00:25:41,900 –> 00:25:49,100
\nmessage from his whatsoever.
\nsays our Lord and he he says <\/p>\n

398
\n00:25:49,100 –> 00:25:53,500
\nhere that you might walk worthy
\nof the Lord that term walk <\/p>\n

399
\n00:25:53,800 –> 00:25:57,700
\nsimply means to conform to the
\nwill of God in real life. <\/p>\n

400
\n00:25:58,000 –> 00:26:04,000
\nBut of course, no human walk
\nwill ever be worthy of the Lord.<\/p>\n

401
\n00:26:05,800 –> 00:26:11,100
\nBut practically it can and
\nshould be so in the sense of <\/p>\n

402
\n00:26:11,100 –> 00:26:19,100
\nbeing governed at every step by
\nthe motive of love and presence.<\/p>\n

403
\n00:26:20,800 –> 00:26:26,900
\nWalk worthy of the Lord unto all
\npleasing to God’s complete <\/p>\n

404
\n00:26:26,900 –> 00:26:33,200
\nsatisfaction and Delight.
\nMore than that result of being <\/p>\n

405
\n00:26:33,200 –> 00:26:36,800
\nfilled with such knowledge of
\nhis will is easy to see that the<\/p>\n

406
\n00:26:36,800 –> 00:26:41,100
\nmore God’s children know him the
\nmore they will also love him. <\/p>\n

407
\n00:26:42,100 –> 00:26:45,100
\nThe more they love him the more
\nthey will also wish to obey him <\/p>\n

408
\n00:26:45,300 –> 00:26:52,900
\nin thought word and action.
\nThis is fruitfulness of the <\/p>\n

409
\n00:26:52,900 –> 00:26:58,000
\nhighest order.
\nAnd it’s all dependent on a real<\/p>\n

410
\n00:26:58,000 –> 00:27:04,300
\nknowledge of God, which grows so
\nto complete the verse to walk <\/p>\n

411
\n00:27:04,300 –> 00:27:07,500
\nworthy of the Lord unto all
\npleasing bearing fruit in every <\/p>\n

412
\n00:27:07,500 –> 00:27:12,400
\ngood work and increasing in the
\nknowledge of God. <\/p>\n

413
\n00:27:13,700 –> 00:27:19,700
\nWell, here’s someone who seems
\nto know the Lord Jesus Christ <\/p>\n

414
\n00:27:19,700 –> 00:27:22,500
\nvery, well.
\nI want to know Christ and the <\/p>\n

415
\n00:27:22,500 –> 00:27:26,200
\npower of his resurrection and
\nthe fellowship of sharing in his<\/p>\n

416
\n00:27:26,200 –> 00:27:30,800
\nsufferings becoming like him in
\nhis death. <\/p>\n

417
\n00:27:33,100 –> 00:27:35,500
\nThat’s commitment.
\nIs it not? <\/p>\n

418
\n00:27:37,500 –> 00:27:42,500
\nAnd then there’s this another
\noutburst of Thanksgiving from <\/p>\n

419
\n00:27:42,900 –> 00:27:45,700
\nfrom Port go down to verse 12
\nnow giving thanks unto the <\/p>\n

420
\n00:27:45,700 –> 00:27:48,300
\nFather which hath made us meet
\nto be partakers of the <\/p>\n

421
\n00:27:48,300 –> 00:27:51,200
\ninheritance of the Saints in
\nlight who has delivered us from <\/p>\n

422
\n00:27:51,200 –> 00:27:54,900
\nthe power of darkness and hath
\ntranslated us into the kingdom <\/p>\n

423
\n00:27:54,900 –> 00:27:59,500
\nof his dear son.
\nOh, that’s it. <\/p>\n

424
\n00:27:59,500 –> 00:28:00,900
\nThat’s what makes the difference
\nyou see. <\/p>\n

425
\n00:28:02,000 –> 00:28:09,200
\nOur new status in Christ God is
\nthe judge before whom we all <\/p>\n

426
\n00:28:09,200 –> 00:28:15,500
\nstand condemned as guilty.
\nAnd yet this is the same God. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:28:16,700 –> 00:28:20,200
\nThat we can now call Father.
\nWhat a change. <\/p>\n

428
\n00:28:20,900 –> 00:28:23,400
\nI mean, there are a number of
\nOld Testament images just <\/p>\n

429
\n00:28:23,400 –> 00:28:25,300
\nbrought to our attention in this
\nlanguage. <\/p>\n

430
\n00:28:25,300 –> 00:28:30,600
\nIt seems to me we have been
\nqualified says Paul for a lot or<\/p>\n

431
\n00:28:30,600 –> 00:28:34,400
\na portion in the land.
\nThis is the term inheritance <\/p>\n

432
\n00:28:34,400 –> 00:28:37,400
\nthat our users we have the
\nIsrael of God. <\/p>\n

433
\n00:28:39,400 –> 00:28:44,000
\nJust as each tribe entered into
\nthe portion of land allotted to <\/p>\n

434
\n00:28:44,000 –> 00:28:47,100
\nthem.
\nSo we enter into the sphere of <\/p>\n

435
\n00:28:47,100 –> 00:28:51,400
\nblessing among the people of
\nGod, which has been granted to <\/p>\n

436
\n00:28:51,400 –> 00:28:53,800
\nus.
\nIt is a Thanksgiving for a <\/p>\n

437
\n00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:59,600
\npresent blessing which is
\nrelated to Future Perfection and<\/p>\n

438
\n00:28:59,600 –> 00:29:03,700
\nknows the language in 13 who has
\ndelivered us from the power of <\/p>\n

439
\n00:29:03,700 –> 00:29:08,700
\ndarkness and translated us into
\nthe kingdom of his dear son. <\/p>\n

440
\n00:29:09,400 –> 00:29:13,300
\nThis is Conquest language
\ndetermine when you remember when<\/p>\n

441
\n00:29:13,300 –> 00:29:19,400
\nIsrael was taken from their land
\nby the Assyrians into Exile and <\/p>\n

442
\n00:29:19,400 –> 00:29:25,000
\nthen those of Judah taken to
\nBabylon into Exile that that’s <\/p>\n

443
\n00:29:25,000 –> 00:29:28,600
\nwhat translation means hear
\nthose people being translated <\/p>\n

444
\n00:29:28,600 –> 00:29:32,000
\nfrom one Kingdom into another
\nthat’s the language here. <\/p>\n

445
\n00:29:32,000 –> 00:29:36,500
\nSo we recorded Apostle Paul have
\nbeen taken from one Kingdom and <\/p>\n

446
\n00:29:36,500 –> 00:29:40,300
\nmoved into another we are
\nalready. part of the Kingdom <\/p>\n

447
\n00:29:41,800 –> 00:29:44,500
\nthis matches that deep sense of
\nhope which we’ve already been <\/p>\n

448
\n00:29:44,600 –> 00:29:47,500
\nalerted to way back in verse 5
\nthere. <\/p>\n

449
\n00:29:48,300 –> 00:29:50,900
\nWe don’t often talk like this
\nbrother and sisters. <\/p>\n

450
\n00:29:50,900 –> 00:29:52,400
\nThis isn’t presumption and our
\npart. <\/p>\n

451
\n00:29:52,500 –> 00:29:54,100
\nThis is taken straight out of
\nscripture. <\/p>\n

452
\n00:29:54,800 –> 00:29:57,700
\nThere is a sense brother and
\nsisters in which we are already <\/p>\n

453
\n00:29:57,700 –> 00:30:04,100
\npart of the Kingdom.
\nHow else how else shall we now <\/p>\n

454
\n00:30:04,700 –> 00:30:08,600
\nproduce the fruit of the Kingdom
\nGalatians? <\/p>\n

455
\n00:30:08,600 –> 00:30:10,600
\nI was going to use this
\ndifferent context but since he’s<\/p>\n

456
\n00:30:10,600 –> 00:30:13,800
\nhere, we’ll use it.
\nThe fruit of the spirit is love <\/p>\n

457
\n00:30:13,800 –> 00:30:17,000
\njoy peace, patience kindness
\ngoodness faithfulness gentleness<\/p>\n

458
\n00:30:17,000 –> 00:30:20,400
\nand self-control.
\nThese are Kingdom flavors. <\/p>\n

459
\n00:30:21,800 –> 00:30:23,900
\nI’m Paulie saying we want them
\nnow. <\/p>\n

460
\n00:30:24,500 –> 00:30:27,700
\nSo there is a sense in which we
\nlive the kingdom now everything <\/p>\n

461
\n00:30:27,700 –> 00:30:31,000
\nthat belongs to him.
\nWe live now amongst ourselves <\/p>\n

462
\n00:30:31,900 –> 00:30:36,100
\none to another and Ecclesia lie
\nin the broader sense. <\/p>\n

463
\n00:30:36,100 –> 00:30:41,800
\nSo we have been we have been
\ntranslated from one Kingdom into<\/p>\n

464
\n00:30:41,800 –> 00:30:45,900
\nthat of the kingdom of his dear
\nsome the Lord. <\/p>\n

465
\n00:30:45,900 –> 00:30:52,400
\nJesus is now our portion our lat
\nyou will remember in Psalm 16 <\/p>\n

466
\n00:30:52,400 –> 00:30:56,100
\nagain, which both I am not
\nreferred to yesterday. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:30:58,500 –> 00:31:01,100
\nWhoever has been referred to in
\nPsalm 16 and I think we’re all <\/p>\n

468
\n00:31:01,100 –> 00:31:07,100
\nagreed is Messiah can speak of
\nhis lot being the Lord God? <\/p>\n

469
\n00:31:08,500 –> 00:31:12,400
\nWell at a slightly lower level
\nto start off with certainly <\/p>\n

470
\n00:31:13,400 –> 00:31:21,700
\nJesus Christ is our lot and our
\nportion and well, I can’t think <\/p>\n

471
\n00:31:21,700 –> 00:31:23,700
\nof a richer inheritance than
\nthat. <\/p>\n

472
\n00:31:27,600 –> 00:31:31,500
\nBut the revised version has a
\ndifferent twist here. <\/p>\n

473
\n00:31:31,500 –> 00:31:35,700
\nI read 13 again who delivered us
\nout of the power of Darkness <\/p>\n

474
\n00:31:35,900 –> 00:31:41,900
\ntranslated into the king of the
\nson of his love other versions <\/p>\n

475
\n00:31:41,900 –> 00:31:44,700
\nmay have it similarly.
\nI don’t know if it makes a <\/p>\n

476
\n00:31:44,708 –> 00:31:52,300
\ndifference, doesn’t it?
\nThe son of his love we were <\/p>\n

477
\n00:31:52,300 –> 00:31:56,400
\nslaves to sin.
\nAnd we’ve now been set free in <\/p>\n

478
\n00:31:56,400 –> 00:31:59,800
\nJesus Christ.
\nWe have been taken from the the <\/p>\n

479
\n00:31:59,800 –> 00:32:04,200
\nLoveless condition of darkness
\nand death into a spiritual realm<\/p>\n

480
\n00:32:04,200 –> 00:32:07,600
\nin which we have the love of God
\nshed upon us. <\/p>\n

481
\n00:32:07,700 –> 00:32:12,500
\nAnd so our lives must be molded
\nby that love and that’s the <\/p>\n

482
\n00:32:12,500 –> 00:32:15,900
\nemphasis which the revised
\nversion brings to our attention <\/p>\n

483
\n00:32:15,900 –> 00:32:18,200
\nthere.
\nWe’ve also got images hero of <\/p>\n

484
\n00:32:18,200 –> 00:32:22,600
\nEgypt and exodus from the
\nslavery in Egypt to the freedom <\/p>\n

485
\n00:32:22,600 –> 00:32:24,700
\nof the fruitfulness of the
\npromised. <\/p>\n

486
\n00:32:25,000 –> 00:32:28,200
\nAnd you know this land that was
\ngoing to flow with milk and <\/p>\n

487
\n00:32:28,200 –> 00:32:30,600
\nhoney.
\nRemember the promises made to to<\/p>\n

488
\n00:32:30,600 –> 00:32:35,900
\nMoses and to the to the
\nIsraelites through Moses and <\/p>\n

489
\n00:32:35,900 –> 00:32:37,200
\nthat’s just the way it was
\nwasn’t it? <\/p>\n

490
\n00:32:37,500 –> 00:32:41,200
\nAnd you notice how the Apostle
\nPaul has two or three times <\/p>\n

491
\n00:32:41,200 –> 00:32:43,500
\nbrought before is this sense of
\nfruitfulness? <\/p>\n

492
\n00:32:44,900 –> 00:32:48,400
\nWell now we all remember the
\nspies being sent into the land. <\/p>\n

493
\n00:32:49,000 –> 00:32:50,600
\nWe all remember them coming
\nback. <\/p>\n

494
\n00:32:53,000 –> 00:32:55,900
\nAnd they came back bearing the
\nfruit of the land. <\/p>\n

495
\n00:32:57,300 –> 00:33:00,600
\nHe wasn’t so much that the fruit
\nof the land showed. <\/p>\n

496
\n00:33:00,600 –> 00:33:04,000
\nWhat a good Landy was flowing
\nwith milk and honey. <\/p>\n

497
\n00:33:04,100 –> 00:33:07,200
\nOf course, it shows that it
\nshowed something much more <\/p>\n

498
\n00:33:07,200 –> 00:33:09,700
\nimportant.
\nHowever, it showed the truth of <\/p>\n

499
\n00:33:09,700 –> 00:33:13,500
\nthe word of God.
\nThis is the god who said to the <\/p>\n

500
\n00:33:13,500 –> 00:33:15,500
\nnation.
\nI’m going to take you to a land <\/p>\n

501
\n00:33:15,500 –> 00:33:19,100
\nwhich flows with milk and honey.
\nAnd when they come back and said<\/p>\n

502
\n00:33:19,300 –> 00:33:21,100
\nlook at this.
\nThis is this is the fruit of the<\/p>\n

503
\n00:33:21,100 –> 00:33:24,900
\nland and at a low level that’s
\nhow many of them would well. <\/p>\n

504
\n00:33:25,400 –> 00:33:28,600
\nWe don’t know how many but most
\nof them side only at that level.<\/p>\n

505
\n00:33:29,000 –> 00:33:31,600
\nThey say they stayed at ground
\nlevel didn’t they? <\/p>\n

506
\n00:33:32,700 –> 00:33:35,300
\nBecause the moment the spice
\nsaid that there is a but Mark <\/p>\n

507
\n00:33:35,300 –> 00:33:38,700
\nyou it’s it’s going to be
\ndifficult in there, you know <\/p>\n

508
\n00:33:38,900 –> 00:33:41,600
\npoor they’ve got cities as well
\nand we haven’t seen Wars like <\/p>\n

509
\n00:33:41,600 –> 00:33:44,800
\nthat before.
\nAnd the Anna came with my word <\/p>\n

510
\n00:33:44,800 –> 00:33:49,400
\nand you see them nine foot tall
\nsome of them which we come we <\/p>\n

511
\n00:33:49,500 –> 00:33:52,700
\njust can’t do it.
\nAnd well, you know the stories <\/p>\n

512
\n00:33:52,700 –> 00:33:59,000
\nwas I do they turn their back.
\nNot so much on the land. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:33:59,100 –> 00:34:01,900
\nThey turned their back on the
\ngod who’s brought them to the <\/p>\n

514
\n00:34:01,900 –> 00:34:05,500
\nboundary of the land the one who
\npromised them he take them in <\/p>\n

515
\n00:34:05,500 –> 00:34:09,600
\nthere.
\nSo that fruitfulness that they <\/p>\n

516
\n00:34:09,600 –> 00:34:13,400
\nbrought with them they were
\nfruit berries won’t they to <\/p>\n

517
\n00:34:13,400 –> 00:34:18,600
\ndemonstrate the truth of God’s
\nword and to encourage them to <\/p>\n

518
\n00:34:18,600 –> 00:34:23,800
\ntake hold and grow in their
\nfaith in this God who’s brought <\/p>\n

519
\n00:34:23,800 –> 00:34:27,100
\nthem self our and were then just
\ntake them in. <\/p>\n

520
\n00:34:28,800 –> 00:34:34,900
\nAnd well they turned their back
\non it. when I stopped in <\/p>\n

521
\n00:34:34,900 –> 00:34:40,500
\nYouTube, New Israel To give a
\nbetter lead shall we say? <\/p>\n

522
\n00:34:42,199 –> 00:34:46,800
\nWe equally our fruit bearers
\nGalatians 3. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:34:46,900 –> 00:34:53,500
\nWe equally our fruit bearers of
\nthe Kingdom to which we are <\/p>\n

524
\n00:34:53,500 –> 00:35:00,200
\nbeing taken. proof positive
\namongst ourselves of the <\/p>\n

525
\n00:35:00,207 –> 00:35:04,500
\ngoodness of God Do we often
\nthink of it that way the <\/p>\n

526
\n00:35:04,500 –> 00:35:07,600
\nkindnesses which we see in
\necclesial life. <\/p>\n

527
\n00:35:07,600 –> 00:35:11,700
\nDo we do we go beyond just
\nthanking the brother or the <\/p>\n

528
\n00:35:11,700 –> 00:35:17,200
\nsister and thank a God who has
\nbrought us together as a family <\/p>\n

529
\n00:35:17,200 –> 00:35:20,400
\nwhere those things can be
\nenjoyed. <\/p>\n

530
\n00:35:21,800 –> 00:35:25,500
\nWe remember a comment made by
\nsomebody looking on at an <\/p>\n

531
\n00:35:25,500 –> 00:35:29,100
\nEcclesia in Cornwall, and I
\nthink I’m quoting correctly. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:35:29,100 –> 00:35:33,400
\nAnd now you guys really know how
\nto look after one another. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:35:34,900 –> 00:35:40,900
\nShe noticed the fruit was being
\ncarried and was being displayed.<\/p>\n

534
\n00:35:42,100 –> 00:35:48,300
\nGod was the motivating power
\nbehind the way that Ecclesia was<\/p>\n

535
\n00:35:48,300 –> 00:35:53,600
\nbehaving.
\nPoor old Caleb and Joshua <\/p>\n

536
\n00:35:53,600 –> 00:35:55,800
\ncourse, they’re going to the 40
\nyears before they get back in <\/p>\n

537
\n00:35:55,800 –> 00:35:57,200
\nthere.
\nAnd you feel very sorry for <\/p>\n

538
\n00:35:57,200 –> 00:35:59,000
\nthem.
\nSometimes wasn’t their fault was<\/p>\n

539
\n00:35:59,000 –> 00:36:01,200
\nit they were quite happy to go
\nin there. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:36:01,200 –> 00:36:03,000
\nNot a problem from that
\nperspective. <\/p>\n

541
\n00:36:03,400 –> 00:36:06,800
\nThat’s the way it was.
\nYou may sometimes I wonder how <\/p>\n

542
\n00:36:06,800 –> 00:36:11,900
\non Earth did they manage to do
\nthat, you know a fortnight’s DLo<\/p>\n

543
\n00:36:12,000 –> 00:36:16,600
\nmaybe a month year half a year
\n40 years was going to wait that <\/p>\n

544
\n00:36:16,600 –> 00:36:20,500
\nlong.
\nWell, they were and they did. <\/p>\n

545
\n00:36:22,300 –> 00:36:25,600
\nAnd they did so because they
\nwere Kingdom Minded they were <\/p>\n

546
\n00:36:25,900 –> 00:36:29,900
\nCanaan minded and I’m using the
\nword Canaan there in in God <\/p>\n

547
\n00:36:29,900 –> 00:36:33,100
\nsense of it the land to which
\nthey were being taken to they <\/p>\n

548
\n00:36:33,100 –> 00:36:36,100
\nhad their minds firmly fixed on
\nwhere they were going. <\/p>\n

549
\n00:36:36,100 –> 00:36:39,500
\nThey were Kingdom Minded and for
\nus brother and sisters. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:36:39,500 –> 00:36:43,500
\nHe’s also been Keen minded
\ndidn’t just it isn’t just the <\/p>\n

551
\n00:36:44,200 –> 00:36:47,200
\nthe things the pictures that we
\nhave of what that Kingdom will <\/p>\n

552
\n00:36:47,200 –> 00:36:51,900
\nbe like it is being it is the
\nkingdom mindedness is is thing <\/p>\n

553
\n00:36:52,100 –> 00:36:56,900
\nAbout the mind of the king
\nhimself minds and hearts firmly <\/p>\n

554
\n00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:08,700
\nfixed on the one who is to come.
\nJohn 15 You’ll see the <\/p>\n

555
\n00:37:08,700 –> 00:37:12,500
\nconnection.
\nBecause all this is learned from<\/p>\n

556
\n00:37:12,500 –> 00:37:22,400
\nthe King himself John 15.
\nI am the True Vine. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:37:25,100 –> 00:37:29,000
\nThis is fruitfulness of the
\nhighest order brother and <\/p>\n

558
\n00:37:29,000 –> 00:37:34,200
\nsisters.
\nAnd my father is the husbandman <\/p>\n

559
\n00:37:34,300 –> 00:37:36,300
\nevery branch in me that beareth
\nnot fruit. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:37:36,300 –> 00:37:38,500
\nHe takes away every branch that
\nbears fruit. <\/p>\n

561
\n00:37:38,500 –> 00:37:43,600
\nHe purges it that it may bring
\nforth more fruit. <\/p>\n

562
\n00:37:44,100 –> 00:37:47,800
\nNow we’re see what he goes in
\nverse 4 and 5 abide in me and I <\/p>\n

563
\n00:37:47,800 –> 00:37:50,700
\nin you as the branch cannot bear
\nfruit of itself, except it abide<\/p>\n

564
\n00:37:50,700 –> 00:37:54,000
\nin the vine no more.
\nCan you accept you abide in me? <\/p>\n

565
\n00:37:54,100 –> 00:37:55,600
\nI am the vine.
\nYou are the branches. <\/p>\n

566
\n00:37:55,900 –> 00:37:59,300
\nHe that abides in me and I in
\nhim the same bringeth forth much<\/p>\n

567
\n00:37:59,300 –> 00:38:03,000
\nfruit without me you can do
\nNothing now. <\/p>\n

568
\n00:38:03,200 –> 00:38:06,800
\nDid you spot the echo from
\nColossians? <\/p>\n

569
\n00:38:08,100 –> 00:38:14,400
\nIn Colossians, it was in him in
\nChrist hear the man makes That <\/p>\n

570
\n00:38:14,400 –> 00:38:21,200
\nexplicit abide verse 4 abide in
\nme and then end of verse 4 no <\/p>\n

571
\n00:38:21,200 –> 00:38:24,000
\nmore.
\nCan you accept you abide in me <\/p>\n

572
\n00:38:24,400 –> 00:38:28,600
\nverse 5 he that abide in me and
\nI in him the same bringeth forth<\/p>\n

573
\n00:38:28,600 –> 00:38:33,500
\nmuch fruit without me you can do
\nnothing. <\/p>\n

574
\n00:38:36,200 –> 00:38:42,800
\nThen verse 16 you did not choose
\nme revised version, but I chose <\/p>\n

575
\n00:38:42,800 –> 00:38:48,200
\nyou and appointed you that you
\nshould go and bear fruit and <\/p>\n

576
\n00:38:48,200 –> 00:38:51,300
\nthat your fruit should abide
\nthat whatever you shall ask of <\/p>\n

577
\n00:38:51,300 –> 00:38:56,000
\nthe father in my name.
\nHe may give you as interesting, <\/p>\n

578
\n00:38:56,000 –> 00:38:59,100
\nisn’t it?
\nSo so we had a picture here of <\/p>\n

579
\n00:38:59,100 –> 00:39:05,000
\nthe fruitfulness of the True
\nVine now in verse 16 it is if <\/p>\n

580
\n00:39:05,000 –> 00:39:07,500
\nsomething is passed.
\nOver to the disciples they <\/p>\n

581
\n00:39:07,500 –> 00:39:10,100
\nthemselves now will be bare as a
\nfruit. <\/p>\n

582
\n00:39:11,000 –> 00:39:14,700
\nCorrect me if I’m wrong, but I
\nunderstand that a Vine is not <\/p>\n

583
\n00:39:14,700 –> 00:39:17,800
\nallowed to produce its fruit
\nuntil after three years. <\/p>\n

584
\n00:39:19,800 –> 00:39:24,000
\nThat’s how long Jesus had his
\ndisciples. and when he’d <\/p>\n

585
\n00:39:24,000 –> 00:39:32,300
\nfinished and Spilled his blood.
\nRemembered in wine And left this<\/p>\n

586
\n00:39:32,300 –> 00:39:38,100
\nEarth to be with his father.
\nThen the disciples took over to <\/p>\n

587
\n00:39:38,100 –> 00:39:46,600
\nBear the fruit that verse 16 is
\nabout chapter 17 the real Lord’s<\/p>\n

588
\n00:39:46,600 –> 00:39:56,300
\nPrayer verse 13.
\nI still take you back to 15 in a<\/p>\n

589
\n00:39:56,308 –> 00:39:59,400
\nsecond or two, but just look at
\nthe language here of our lord. <\/p>\n

590
\n00:39:59,600 –> 00:40:05,000
\nIt’s John 17.
\nIt’s verse 13, but now come I to<\/p>\n

591
\n00:40:05,100 –> 00:40:09,600
\nthe these things I speak in the
\nworld that they might have my <\/p>\n

592
\n00:40:09,600 –> 00:40:12,700
\njoy fulfilled in themselves.
\nThat is astonishing language, <\/p>\n

593
\n00:40:12,700 –> 00:40:14,900
\nisn’t it?
\nThis is a man who’s shorter to <\/p>\n

594
\n00:40:14,900 –> 00:40:20,900
\ngo out to be arrested to be
\ntreated in a most abysmal way <\/p>\n

595
\n00:40:21,400 –> 00:40:28,400
\nand then to be nailed to a cross
\nAnd he speaks here of my joy <\/p>\n

596
\n00:40:29,200 –> 00:40:32,200
\nfulfilled in themselves.
\nI have Here Comes This 40. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:40:32,400 –> 00:40:39,900
\nI have given them Thy Word.
\nSharper than any two-edged <\/p>\n

598
\n00:40:40,500 –> 00:40:46,300
\nswords back in chapter 15 where
\nwe have the language every <\/p>\n

599
\n00:40:46,300 –> 00:40:48,400
\nBranch verse 2 in me that bears
\nnot fruit. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:40:48,400 –> 00:40:50,500
\nHe takes away every branch that
\nbears fruit. <\/p>\n

601
\n00:40:50,700 –> 00:40:54,200
\nHe purged with it.
\nHe prunes it. <\/p>\n

602
\n00:40:54,700 –> 00:40:57,200
\nIt’s the word that does the
\npruning. <\/p>\n

603
\n00:41:00,900 –> 00:41:04,900
\nAnd you you you should just
\nnotice incidentally that it was <\/p>\n

604
\n00:41:04,900 –> 00:41:06,600
\nroom 15 here.
\nI’m perhaps we should have <\/p>\n

605
\n00:41:06,600 –> 00:41:09,400
\nmentioned these earlier.
\nHe talks there in verse 2 of <\/p>\n

606
\n00:41:09,400 –> 00:41:14,200
\nbearing fruit.
\nHe then talks about bringing <\/p>\n

607
\n00:41:14,200 –> 00:41:19,800
\nforth much fruit in verse 5 and
\nin other verse which I don’t <\/p>\n

608
\n00:41:19,800 –> 00:41:22,500
\nimmediately sport.
\nWell, it said again in verse 18 <\/p>\n

609
\n00:41:22,800 –> 00:41:26,800
\nverse 8 rather that you bear
\nmuch fruit. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:41:26,900 –> 00:41:29,700
\nSo as you go down from where
\naround verse 2 through the verse<\/p>\n

611
\n00:41:29,700 –> 00:41:35,900
\n8, it goes from fruit more fruit
\nmuch fruit is a continuing <\/p>\n

612
\n00:41:35,900 –> 00:41:40,400
\nprocess the pruning process of
\nthe word will increase our <\/p>\n

613
\n00:41:40,400 –> 00:41:46,300
\nfruitfulness.
\nAs we stay in him. meanwhile <\/p>\n

614
\n00:41:46,300 –> 00:41:53,800
\nback in chapter 17 chapter 17
\nand so it sees the word which if<\/p>\n

615
\n00:41:53,800 –> 00:41:59,300
\nyou like is the second ters,
\nwhich I used by God to increase <\/p>\n

616
\n00:41:59,300 –> 00:42:01,800
\nour fruitfulness in him.
\nBut look at this. <\/p>\n

617
\n00:42:01,800 –> 00:42:04,200
\nNeither pray I say has been
\npraying for the disciples. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:42:04,200 –> 00:42:06,500
\nYeah as well.
\nHe might have course that their <\/p>\n

619
\n00:42:06,500 –> 00:42:12,100
\nworld is going to collapse.
\nOnce Jesus is taken from them. <\/p>\n

620
\n00:42:12,300 –> 00:42:14,400
\nHe says in verse 20 neither
\npray. <\/p>\n

621
\n00:42:14,400 –> 00:42:18,300
\nI for these alone but for them
\nalso, which Shall Believe on me <\/p>\n

622
\n00:42:18,300 –> 00:42:22,400
\nthrough their word that they all
\nmay be one as thou father art in<\/p>\n

623
\n00:42:22,400 –> 00:42:26,100
\nme and I in thee and they also
\nmay be one in us that the world <\/p>\n

624
\n00:42:26,100 –> 00:42:29,800
\nmay believe that thou Hast sent
\nme. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:42:30,800 –> 00:42:35,400
\nOh, that’s good.
\nHear the Lord Jesus Christ <\/p>\n

626
\n00:42:35,700 –> 00:42:39,300
\npraise specifically for you and
\nme. <\/p>\n

627
\n00:42:41,000 –> 00:42:44,400
\nIsn’t that right?
\nAnd I hope you’ve seen we’ve <\/p>\n

628
\n00:42:44,400 –> 00:42:49,600
\ncome full circle.
\nPaul never got to colossi But <\/p>\n

629
\n00:42:49,600 –> 00:42:52,300
\nthey heard the word through
\nepaphras. <\/p>\n

630
\n00:42:54,700 –> 00:43:00,800
\nJesus never came to the United
\nStates Or Shippensburg or new <\/p>\n

631
\n00:43:00,800 –> 00:43:03,300
\nkey?
\nOh, whatever. <\/p>\n

632
\n00:43:04,700 –> 00:43:08,200
\nBut we’ve had through others
\nthis first brother and sister <\/p>\n

633
\n00:43:08,200 –> 00:43:14,000
\nshould be precious in your sight
\nour Lord Praise specifically for<\/p>\n

634
\n00:43:14,000 –> 00:43:22,600
\nyou and your Eternal welfare.
\nWe have not seen his face. <\/p>\n

635
\n00:43:24,500 –> 00:43:40,200
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068: Nigel Patterson – The Letter to the Christadelphians<\/a><\/blockquote>