Class 4 from this series was used in GCT Episode 397.<\/p>\n
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\ntastes his disciples to Caesarea
\nPhilippi. <\/p>\n
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\nWhy?
\nWhy is he taking the Caesarea <\/p>\n
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\nPhilippi?
\nIt is completely out of the way.<\/p>\n
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\nIt’s all the way up here at the
\nbase of Mount Hermon, probably <\/p>\n
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\nas far away as tired and siding.
\nAs far as we know, we hadn’t <\/p>\n
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\ngone there before, and it never
\nwent there afterwards. <\/p>\n
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\nClearly this is a significant
\nmoment for the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n
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\nChrist.
\nWhy take them to Caesarea <\/p>\n
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\nPhilippi?
\nI suppose if you’re just trying <\/p>\n
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\nto escape Judaism, there’s lots
\nof places you could go, right? <\/p>\n
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\nWhy all the way up there?
\nWhy not stop halfway in between?<\/p>\n
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\nCaesarea Philippi is located
\nabout, as you can see on the <\/p>\n
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\nmap, about 25 miles north of the
\nSea of Galilee. <\/p>\n
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\nIt was in the territory of the
\ntetrarchy of Herod Philip, close<\/p>\n
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\nto the border of Syria, as we
\nnow understand Syria according <\/p>\n
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\nto our modern maps.
\nSo the city had a very large <\/p>\n
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\nspring, and from it, this spring
\nwas one of the main sources of <\/p>\n
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\nthe Jordan River.
\nSo it was a it was a fertile, it<\/p>\n
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\nwas a beautiful area.
\nAnd because it was so fertile <\/p>\n
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\nand so beautiful that it became
\na place for cultish religious <\/p>\n
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\npractice.
\nIn fact, Caesarea Philippi <\/p>\n
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\nbecame known and renown for
\nPagan worship. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd as you can see on this map
\nbehind us we have here the <\/p>\n
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\nTemple of Zeus.
\nAnd over here we have the Temple<\/p>\n
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\nof Augustus, the Imperial cult.
\nAnd in between we have the court<\/p>\n
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\nof Pan.
\nYou’ll you’ll notice about Pan <\/p>\n
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\nPan is 1\/2 goat, half man figure
\nand he was the God of nature, <\/p>\n
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\nthe God of shepherds, the God of
\nthe wild. <\/p>\n
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\nHe’s often depicted with a
\nflute, which are now known as <\/p>\n
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\nthe Pan pipes.
\nHe was not a God that you would <\/p>\n
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\nworship in temples like you
\nmight worship Augustus or or <\/p>\n
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\nZeus.
\nYou notice that there’s no <\/p>\n
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\ntemple there.
\nHe’s he’s worshipped in wild <\/p>\n
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\nopen places, especially caves or
\ngrottos. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s one on the northern face
\nof the Acropolis in Athens. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a cave and there is a
\nshrine to Pan there. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd of course, when they saw
\nthis cave, they thought of Pan <\/p>\n
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\nand they devoted an area to his
\nworship there. <\/p>\n
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\nSo as we mentioned in Caesarea
\nPhilipa, you have this large <\/p>\n
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\nspring and a spring flowing from
\nit and you have a cave, and that<\/p>\n
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\nis considered, or was considered
\nthe gate of Hades. <\/p>\n
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\nThat cave, it was very difficult
\nto know the bottom of it. <\/p>\n
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\nIn fact, probably in those days,
\nif you ever saw the bottom of <\/p>\n
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\nit, you’d never get out right.
\nSo it is A and the bottom of it <\/p>\n
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\nwas hidden because it was
\ntotally dark. <\/p>\n
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\nSo for them it was as if it was
\nbottomless and therefore going <\/p>\n
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\ndown into the endless abyss and
\nsomething that that the Pagan <\/p>\n
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\nworshippers would consider to be
\na gate into Hades. <\/p>\n
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\nNow Caesarea Philippi was
\nrenamed by Herod Philip. <\/p>\n
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\nBefore it was called Caesarea
\nPhilippi, it was given a <\/p>\n
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\ndifferent name.
\nIt was given the name Panius <\/p>\n
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\nafter this God Pan, but he
\nrenamed it in 80. <\/p>\n
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\nNo, excuse me, BC 19 to reflect
\nthe city’s political loyalty to <\/p>\n
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\nRome.
\nHe didn’t do it, but Herod the <\/p>\n
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\nGreat renamed it.
\nSo emperor worship was something<\/p>\n
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\nthat was practiced very widely
\nin the Roman Empire. <\/p>\n
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\nCitizens were required to
\nvenerate the Roman Emperor as a <\/p>\n
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\ndivine figure, as a savior, as
\nit were. <\/p>\n
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\nSubjects would offer sacrifices
\nand they would proclaim <\/p>\n
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\nallegiance to the Caesar at
\nthese temples. <\/p>\n
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\nThey would call him Lord, they
\nwould call him savior. <\/p>\n
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\nIt it almost wasn’t as much of
\nan act of worship as it was an <\/p>\n
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\nact of political loyalty.
\nIt was maybe the most truly <\/p>\n
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\nRoman thing you could do right
\nis is go to the, the the shrine <\/p>\n
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\nor the temple of the, of the, of
\nthe Caesar and to offer a <\/p>\n
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\nsacrifice.
\nAnd of course, beyond this, we <\/p>\n
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\nhave the the temple of Zeus, the
\nthe king of the Pagan gods as a <\/p>\n
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\nfocal point of the Pagan
\nreligion in the place. <\/p>\n
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\nSo, So what I’m really getting
\nat is Caesarea Philippi <\/p>\n
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\ninterestingly brings together
\nthree things. <\/p>\n
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\nHave you noticed the three
\nthings? <\/p>\n
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\nMaybe I’d just point out to you
\nthe three things of this city <\/p>\n
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\nseems to be almost uniquely
\ncapable of pulling together in <\/p>\n
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\none place.
\nSee, firstly you have Roman <\/p>\n
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\ntradition.
\nSecondly you have the worship of<\/p>\n
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\nmen.
\nNow why would I say the worship <\/p>\n
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\nof men to worship Pan is the
\nworship animal instinct? <\/p>\n
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\nNow maybe I haven’t painted the
\npicture clearly enough to you to<\/p>\n
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\nunderstand that, but if you want
\nto do some research on your own <\/p>\n
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\nabout the God Pan, you would
\nunderstand He’s almost always <\/p>\n
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\nportrayed sexually.
\nIf you didn’t know. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s why his legs are always
\nspread open all the statues, <\/p>\n
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\nright?
\nIt’s not an accident just to the<\/p>\n
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\nGod Pan is is a God of
\nsexuality, but not sexuality. <\/p>\n
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\nLike Aphrodite may be the God of
\nlove and sexuality. <\/p>\n
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\nSexuality in terms of it’s a
\nnatural instinct and and of <\/p>\n
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\ncourse you can see it.
\nHe’s half man, half animal. <\/p>\n
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\nHe’s a beast.
\nAnd there’s something about that<\/p>\n
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\nthat men thought they ought to
\nworship. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so they create a man, or
\nGod, I should say, half man, <\/p>\n
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\nhalf beast, and to worship it
\nso. <\/p>\n
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\nSo what you have here is you
\nhave worshiping the Caesar, and <\/p>\n
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\nthen you have worship of men.
\nAnd then of course you have <\/p>\n
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\nPagan religion.
\nYou have all three of those <\/p>\n
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\nthings brought together in one
\nplace, and interestingly, the <\/p>\n
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\nLord Jesus Christ brings his
\ndisciples here. <\/p>\n
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\nIt was in the shadow of of these
\ninstitutions that Peter’s going <\/p>\n
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\nto say that you are the Messiah,
\nthe Son of the living God. <\/p>\n
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\nThat is a deeply unroman thing
\nto say. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd he made that declaration in
\nCaesarea Philippi. <\/p>\n
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\nIt was in that place that Jesus
\nsaid that the gates of Hades <\/p>\n
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\nwill not prevail against his
\necclesia. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat he’s saying is that the
\ntrue ecclesia, the true <\/p>\n
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\necclesia, the true ecclesia of
\ncalled out ones, would not <\/p>\n
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\nsuccumb to Roman tradition,
\nwould not succumb to the worship<\/p>\n
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\nof men, would not succumb to
\npaganism if it was his ecclesia,<\/p>\n
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\nthat this ecclesia was going to
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\nwhich there are many lost and
\nmany hungry. <\/p>\n
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\nBut for that ecclesia to
\nsurvive, it would not succumb to<\/p>\n
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\nRoman tradition, it would not
\nsuccumb to the worship of men, <\/p>\n
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\nit would not succumb to Pagan
\nreligion, or else if it did, it <\/p>\n
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\nwould be destroyed in Hades.
\nSo it’s not without some irony. <\/p>\n
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\nThen I, I, I want you to see the
\nirony to, to me, the irony just <\/p>\n
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\njumps off the page.
\nIt’s not without some irony that<\/p>\n
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\nbased on the reinterpretation of
\nMatthew 16, men have built a <\/p>\n
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\nreligion that is almost the
\nperfect combination of Roman <\/p>\n
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\ntradition, the worship of men,
\nand Pagan ritual. <\/p>\n
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\nI wonder if that’s a
\ncoincidence, or maybe Jesus <\/p>\n
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\nknew.
\nWhat do you think? <\/p>\n
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\nThe implication of the words of
\nJesus is that any religion that <\/p>\n
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\nbases itself on anything but an
\naccurate and true understanding <\/p>\n
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\nof who he is will descend into
\nHades. <\/p>\n
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\nNow I want to give you a couple
\nof examples in the scripture of <\/p>\n
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\nreligious systems that descended
\ninto Hades. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd funny, they all have to do
\nwith stones, isn’t that It’s a <\/p>\n
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\nlittle interesting thing.
\nI don’t know if there’s <\/p>\n
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\nsomething to that or not, Right.
\nBut but examples of religious <\/p>\n
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\nsystems that descended into
\nHades. <\/p>\n
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\nLet’s, let’s start with this
\none. <\/p>\n
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\nSo here is Caesarea Philippi.
\nNow, what city is Caesarea <\/p>\n
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\nPhilippi?
\nVery close to Dan. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat was it?
\nWhat happened to Dan? <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a golden calf and Dan
\nwasn’t wasn’t there right. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s it’s basically a short
\nwalk. <\/p>\n
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\nI mean, I, it’s not that far.
\nThat’s maybe 2 kilometers. <\/p>\n
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\nSo 2 kilometers away for where
\nthe word Jesus Christ was, you <\/p>\n
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\nknow, almost seeing distance was
\nthe ruins of where Jeroboam had <\/p>\n
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\nset up a golden calf.
\nNow the other where’s the other <\/p>\n
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\nplaces to have the golden calf?
\nBethel. <\/p>\n
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\nOK, so now why did he set up the
\nwhy did he think to set up that <\/p>\n
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\nCath in Bethel?
\nWell, you can say, well, it’s <\/p>\n
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\nkind of in between Samaria and
\nJerusalem. <\/p>\n
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\nBut there might be another
\nreason he chose Bethel. <\/p>\n
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\nI don’t know if he’s this
\nclever, but if he was this <\/p>\n
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\nclever, this might have been his
\nreason for setting it up in <\/p>\n
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\nBethel was because in Bethel
\nJacob had a vision and <\/p>\n
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\ninteresting what he says in this
\nvision in Genesis chapter 28 and<\/p>\n
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\nverse 15, God says to him, this
\nis the Lord speaking through an <\/p>\n
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\nAngel, says I am with thee
\nJacob, and will keep thee Jacob,<\/p>\n
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\nin all places where thou goest.
\nNow what do you think? <\/p>\n
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\nWhat do you think?
\nGod’s saying? <\/p>\n
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\nHe’s saying, Jacob, wherever you
\ngo, I’m with you. <\/p>\n
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\nIf if you’re about to flee up to
\nthe 10s of Laban, I’m with you <\/p>\n
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\nthere.
\nIf if you’re fleeing away from <\/p>\n
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\nEsau, I’m with you there.
\nIf you come back to your father <\/p>\n
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\nIsaac, I’m with you there.
\nI’m with you. <\/p>\n
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\nWith all places you go, I’m with
\nyou. <\/p>\n
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\nBut what, how does Jacob
\ninterpret this, this vision and <\/p>\n
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\nsign from God?
\nWell, interestingly, he says <\/p>\n
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\nthis.
\nHow awesome is this place, <\/p>\n
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\nBethel?
\nThis is none other than the <\/p>\n
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\nHouse of God, which is what
\nBethel means by the way. <\/p>\n
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\nHouse of God, this is the gate
\nof heaven. <\/p>\n
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\nBethel, the gate of heaven.
\nThis is the place where heaven <\/p>\n
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\nand earth meet.
\nAnd there’s a gate there. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a ladder as it were, or
\nstaircase, right? <\/p>\n
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\nThis is this is the gate of
\nheaven. <\/p>\n
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\nOK, but was Bethel the gate of
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\nBrothers and sisters, what did
\nGod say that Bethel was the gate<\/p>\n
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\nBecause what would happen there?<\/p>\n
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\nWell, we know in Second Kings
\nwhat Josiah did to that place. <\/p>\n
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\nBecause of the abominations set
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\nto dust. <\/p>\n
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\nAlso he burned the asherah he
\nsent and took the bones of the <\/p>\n
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\ntombs, and he burned them on the
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\nSo what Josiah did is he took
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\nhe made it into the gate of <\/p>\n
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\nSee, Jeroboam used God’s name <\/p>\n
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\nand proclaimed that this golden
\ncalf had delivered his people <\/p>\n
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\nYahweh. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd it sounded right.
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\ndidn’t it?
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\ndelivered them from Egypt.
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\nhe mixed it with air.
\nBut did Jeroboam build a <\/p>\n
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\npower?
\nWell, let’s look at another <\/p>\n
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\nthey’re looking at all the <\/p>\n
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\ntemple from the Mount of Olives <\/p>\n
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\nand looking at all of that.
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\ndo you not?
\nI say to you, there will not be <\/p>\n
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\nleft here 1 stone upon another
\nthat will not be thrown down. <\/p>\n
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\nYou see, brothers and sisters,
\nthe gates of Hades will prevail <\/p>\n
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\nSecond Temple abandoned by God <\/p>\n
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\nbecause it was a den of thieves.
\nNot one stone was left upon <\/p>\n
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\nAnd we can build the foundations<\/p>\n
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\nstones. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat happens when one of our
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\nsome heinous sin?
\nHappens. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat happens when one of our
\nbrethren launders money? <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s happened.
\nWhat happens when there’s some <\/p>\n
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\nin the faith that betray us?
\nWhat have we been building on? <\/p>\n
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\nfleshly ideas, ideas, the sorts
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\ngates of Hades is going to
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\nbecause it’s no longer Christ
\necclesia. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd do you know what the gates
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\nthose systems?
\nDo you know why? <\/p>\n
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\nBecause God created death to
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\nThat’s why you created death.
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\nthat’s where they belong.
\nSo the question we’re being <\/p>\n
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\nasked is what sort of stones are
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\nsisters?
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\nmade, they’re not going to last.
\nBut what will last, what the <\/p>\n
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\ngates of Hades will not prevail
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\nJesus Christ is the Messiah, the
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\nnever prevail against that is <\/p>\n
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\nbecause it’s truth.
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\nLife.
\nIn fact, they are a pillar and <\/p>\n
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\nthe buildings of Jeroboam. <\/p>\n
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\nof Jesus’s God. <\/p>\n
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\nTo such the second death has no
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\nBut we asked a question, How did
\nthe Catholic Church so corrupt <\/p>\n
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\nMatthew 16? <\/p>\n
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\nHow did they corrupt them?
\nAnd to find out how the Catholic<\/p>\n
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\nwords of Matthew 16, I got to <\/p>\n
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\ntell you a story.
\nIt’s a story from history. <\/p>\n
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\nDoes anyone like history?
\nOh, hey, more than just two of <\/p>\n
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\nus, really.
\nWho? <\/p>\n
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\nWho doesn’t like history?
\nOh, you’re all shy now, Right? <\/p>\n
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\nRight.
\nSo, so we, we all. <\/p>\n
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\nSo it’s OK if I tell you a story
\nfrom history, right? <\/p>\n
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\nYou know, when I, when I was
\nyounger, I wanted to be history <\/p>\n
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\nteacher.
\nSo I’m just going to pretend I’m<\/p>\n
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\na history teacher now.
\nSo the story begins in 1870. <\/p>\n
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\nCan anyone think on the top of
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\nhappened in 1870?
\nOh, yeah. <\/p>\n
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\nWell, you know where the story’s
\ngoing. <\/p>\n
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\nWow.
\nYou. <\/p>\n
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\nAll right, So the story begins
\nin 1870. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd you have to understand, in
\n1870, the world outside the <\/p>\n
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\nVatican is totally in upheaval.
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\nunderstating the case.
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\nyears, going back to the time of
\nCharlemagne around the year 800,<\/p>\n
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\nIt looked around and it had no
\ndefenders. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s no one to help it.
\nThe the the Italian unification <\/p>\n
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\nmovement under Mazzini Garibaldi
\nand Count Cavour was was taking <\/p>\n
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\nItaly 1 by 1 and uniting them in<\/p>\n
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\ncourse, the Enlightenment had <\/p>\n
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\nwhere the the church would <\/p>\n
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\nHe figures if I lose political <\/p>\n
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\nmy spiritual dominion is <\/p>\n
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\na passage that appears to come <\/p>\n
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\nFirst Vatican Council 1870 would
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\napostles was the supreme
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\nunder special conditions, is <\/p>\n
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\nNow the derivative, according to<\/p>\n
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\nthe Catholics, of all these ID’s
\nis Matthew 16. <\/p>\n
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\n00:26:32,040 –> 00:26:36,440
\nI say unto thee, Thou art Peter.
\nUpon this rock I will build my <\/p>\n
339
\n00:26:36,440 –> 00:26:41,880
\necclesia or church as they would
\ntranslate it right, and the <\/p>\n
340
\n00:26:41,880 –> 00:26:44,160
\ngates of hell should not prevail
\nagainst it. <\/p>\n
341
\n00:26:44,160 –> 00:26:46,800
\nAnd I will give unto thee the
\nkeys of the Kingdom of heaven. <\/p>\n
342
\n00:26:46,800 –> 00:26:49,920
\nAnd whatsoever thou shalt bind
\non earth shall be bound in <\/p>\n
343
\n00:26:49,920 –> 00:26:53,920
\nheaven, and whatsoever thou
\nshalt loose on earth shall be <\/p>\n
344
\n00:26:53,920 –> 00:26:56,200
\nloosed in heaven.
\nAnd you see that we’ve been <\/p>\n
345
\n00:26:56,320 –> 00:26:58,720
\nthinking about these symbols.
\nWhat do they mean? <\/p>\n
346
\n00:26:58,840 –> 00:27:01,840
\nWell, we’re not the only ones
\nthat have done that. <\/p>\n
347
\n00:27:03,240 –> 00:27:06,280
\nThe Catholic Church, with its
\nbillions, have thought about <\/p>\n
348
\n00:27:06,280 –> 00:27:09,800
\nthese verses as well, and
\nthey’ve come to perhaps separate<\/p>\n
349
\n00:27:09,800 –> 00:27:12,640
\ninterpretations.
\nYoung people, you might think <\/p>\n
350
\n00:27:12,640 –> 00:27:18,200
\nthat Bible study isn’t important
\nin terms of understanding <\/p>\n
351
\n00:27:18,200 –> 00:27:22,160
\nsymbols.
\nYou might look at a passage <\/p>\n
352
\n00:27:22,160 –> 00:27:25,840
\nwhich has symbols like a rock.
\nYou might say, it does it really<\/p>\n
353
\n00:27:25,840 –> 00:27:27,760
\nmatter how we interpret this
\nsymbol? <\/p>\n
354
\n00:27:30,520 –> 00:27:35,640
\nIt does.
\nIt matters because this is how <\/p>\n
355
\n00:27:35,640 –> 00:27:37,040
\nthe Catholic Church interprets
\nthem. <\/p>\n
356
\n00:27:38,600 –> 00:27:42,800
\nPeter’s the Rock.
\nIn their view, the Catholic <\/p>\n
357
\n00:27:42,800 –> 00:27:48,360
\nChurch itself is founded not on
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
358
\n00:27:51,000 –> 00:27:53,560
\nThe Church is not founded on
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
359
\n00:27:54,800 –> 00:27:59,600
\nIt is founded on Peter.
\nPeter personally. <\/p>\n
360
\n00:28:01,280 –> 00:28:04,880
\nAnd from this premise, the
\nChurch argues that Peter was <\/p>\n
361
\n00:28:04,880 –> 00:28:09,000
\nappointed as the universal head
\nof the Church and has authority <\/p>\n
362
\n00:28:09,000 –> 00:28:14,280
\nover all Christians.
\nMore to say, I’m not that in a <\/p>\n
363
\n00:28:14,280 –> 00:28:18,480
\nmoment.
\nSecondly, what does it mean to <\/p>\n
364
\n00:28:18,480 –> 00:28:21,800
\nbind and loosen?
\nWell, the Catholic Church <\/p>\n
365
\n00:28:21,880 –> 00:28:29,120
\nfurther claim that Peter alone
\nhas the authority to bind and to<\/p>\n
366
\n00:28:29,120 –> 00:28:32,840
\nloose.
\nThat is, Peter could make <\/p>\n
367
\n00:28:32,920 –> 00:28:38,040
\ndecisions that Heaven was
\nrequired to ratify. <\/p>\n
368
\n00:28:41,560 –> 00:28:45,880
\nSo this place is Peter at the
\nplace of supreme jurisdictional <\/p>\n
369
\n00:28:45,880 –> 00:28:52,080
\nauthority, with Heaven basically
\nfollowing earth’s lead. <\/p>\n
370
\n00:28:55,320 –> 00:28:57,560
\nAnd the Church interprets
\nbinding and loosening as a <\/p>\n
371
\n00:28:57,560 –> 00:29:01,680
\nlicense for the Pope as Peter’s
\nsuccessor, basically to declare <\/p>\n
372
\n00:29:01,680 –> 00:29:06,480
\ndoctrine or issue commands that
\nheaven’s obliged to accept <\/p>\n
373
\n00:29:07,320 –> 00:29:11,840
\nwhether or not they have
\nscriptural precedent. <\/p>\n
374
\n00:29:13,360 –> 00:29:18,640
\nThat’s their interpretation.
\nAnd thirdly, it may be the most <\/p>\n
375
\n00:29:18,640 –> 00:29:20,680
\nbold, because there’s nothing
\nyou can. <\/p>\n
376
\n00:29:20,800 –> 00:29:23,520
\nThere’s nothing about Matthew 16
\nthat says anything about this. <\/p>\n
377
\n00:29:25,360 –> 00:29:28,080
\nThe baby, the bulls claim, is
\nthat the authority was given to <\/p>\n
378
\n00:29:28,080 –> 00:29:31,360
\nPeter and transferred to his
\nsuccessors, which they then <\/p>\n
379
\n00:29:33,560 –> 00:29:37,960
\nconsidered to be the bishops of
\nRome, creating an unbroken chain<\/p>\n
380
\n00:29:37,960 –> 00:29:47,200
\nof papal authority.
\nNow, Matthew 16 is quoted often <\/p>\n
381
\n00:29:47,440 –> 00:29:49,840
\nin their official documents from
\nVatican 1. <\/p>\n
382
\n00:29:52,000 –> 00:29:55,360
\nYou won’t be surprised here.
\nAnd this is one of those quotes.<\/p>\n
383
\n00:29:57,480 –> 00:30:02,000
\nThe document that outlines these
\nideas is called Pasteur. <\/p>\n
384
\n00:30:02,480 –> 00:30:06,240
\nI can’t really speak Aladdin, so
\nexcuse me, Alternis. <\/p>\n
385
\n00:30:07,720 –> 00:30:11,040
\nOK.
\nAnd we read there. <\/p>\n
386
\n00:30:11,880 –> 00:30:16,200
\nFor I I love how they I love how
\nthey begin this for none could <\/p>\n
387
\n00:30:16,200 –> 00:30:20,000
\ndeny.
\nAs if we’re not really <\/p>\n
388
\n00:30:20,000 –> 00:30:22,040
\ninterested in anyone else having
\nan opinion here. <\/p>\n
389
\n00:30:23,520 –> 00:30:27,960
\nFor none could deny.
\nAnd it is known to all ages. <\/p>\n
390
\n00:30:28,440 –> 00:30:31,480
\nSo yeah, again, it rests on
\ntradition, not scholarship. <\/p>\n
391
\n00:30:33,400 –> 00:30:36,480
\nRenanca deny and is known to all
\nages, that the holy and most <\/p>\n
392
\n00:30:36,480 –> 00:30:39,680
\nblessed Peter, the Prince and
\nhead of the Apostles, the pillar<\/p>\n
393
\n00:30:39,680 –> 00:30:47,000
\nof the faith and the foundation
\nof the Catholic Church, received<\/p>\n
394
\n00:30:47,000 –> 00:30:50,560
\nthe keys of the Kingdom from our
\nLord Jesus Christ, the Savior <\/p>\n
395
\n00:30:50,560 –> 00:30:53,880
\nand Redeemer of the human race.
\nAnd that to Him was given the <\/p>\n
396
\n00:30:53,880 –> 00:30:59,280
\npower of binding and losing,
\nwhich power is perpetuated in <\/p>\n
397
\n00:30:59,280 –> 00:31:01,680
\nthe Roman Pontiffs who are his
\nsuccessor. <\/p>\n
398
\n00:31:01,680 –> 00:31:06,200
\nSo again, here’s a summary.
\nPeter is the Prince and head of <\/p>\n
399
\n00:31:06,200 –> 00:31:09,560
\nthe Church, the Apostles and the
\nfoundation. <\/p>\n
400
\n00:31:11,120 –> 00:31:15,600
\nThe power of binding and
\nloosening was given to Peter <\/p>\n
401
\n00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:19,760
\nalone, proving that he has
\njurisdiction over all <\/p>\n
402
\n00:31:19,760 –> 00:31:23,960
\nChristians.
\nAnd lastly, this authority is <\/p>\n
403
\n00:31:23,960 –> 00:31:28,480
\nperpetuated in the office of the
\nRoman Pontiff, creating an <\/p>\n
404
\n00:31:28,480 –> 00:31:30,680
\nunbroken chain of papal
\nauthority. <\/p>\n
405
\n00:31:32,320 –> 00:31:35,320
\nNow look at this and I think,
\nwhere do I start? <\/p>\n
406
\n00:31:37,800 –> 00:31:39,680
\nWhere do, where do I?
\nWhere do I start? <\/p>\n
407
\n00:31:39,680 –> 00:31:42,920
\nMaybe I should show that Peter
\nnever ruled over the over the <\/p>\n
408
\n00:31:42,920 –> 00:31:47,920
\nchurch.
\nFor example, did Peter preside <\/p>\n
409
\n00:31:47,920 –> 00:31:51,200
\nat the Jerusalem conference?
\nNo. <\/p>\n
410
\n00:31:52,560 –> 00:31:57,440
\nDid did Peter claim to have
\nuniversal authority over all <\/p>\n
411
\n00:31:57,440 –> 00:32:00,520
\ndecisions when Paul confronted
\nhim in Galatians chapter 2? <\/p>\n
412
\n00:32:01,360 –> 00:32:05,760
\nNo, I thought maybe I could give
\nyou a quote from Peter. <\/p>\n
413
\n00:32:07,040 –> 00:32:09,560
\nI mean, I don’t know, maybe you
\nwant to cross reference this <\/p>\n
414
\n00:32:09,560 –> 00:32:12,280
\nquote because you wouldn’t need
\nto cross reference this quote <\/p>\n
415
\n00:32:12,280 –> 00:32:14,160
\nunless you had this Catholic ID
\nin your head. <\/p>\n
416
\n00:32:15,040 –> 00:32:18,960
\nBut if you did, this would be a
\nuseful cross reference because <\/p>\n
417
\n00:32:19,120 –> 00:32:23,360
\nthis is how Peter refers to
\nhimself in relation to others <\/p>\n
418
\n00:32:23,600 –> 00:32:25,600
\nand in relation to Christ.
\nNow that’s useful. <\/p>\n
419
\n00:32:26,680 –> 00:32:33,160
\nHow does Peter, after Christ has
\nascended into heaven, how does <\/p>\n
420
\n00:32:33,160 –> 00:32:38,080
\nPeter refer to himself in
\nrelation to others and in <\/p>\n
421
\n00:32:38,080 –> 00:32:39,920
\nrelation to the Lord Jesus
\nChrist? <\/p>\n
422
\n00:32:41,800 –> 00:32:43,640
\nWell, there’s a passage for
\nPeter does that. <\/p>\n
423
\n00:32:43,640 –> 00:32:44,800
\nDo you know what passage that
\nis? <\/p>\n
424
\n00:32:48,000 –> 00:32:50,320
\nIt’s first Peter chapter 5,
\nverses 1 and 2. <\/p>\n
425
\n00:32:51,000 –> 00:32:58,840
\nHe says the elders which are
\namong you, I exhort, who am also<\/p>\n
426
\n00:32:59,520 –> 00:33:02,000
\nan elder.
\nAny does he? <\/p>\n
427
\n00:33:02,000 –> 00:33:03,920
\nIs he claiming any special
\nauthority there? <\/p>\n
428
\n00:33:03,920 –> 00:33:07,720
\nBy the way, he’s one among many,
\nisn’t he? <\/p>\n
429
\n00:33:09,280 –> 00:33:12,520
\nFeed the flock of God, which is
\namong you, taking the oversight <\/p>\n
430
\n00:33:12,520 –> 00:33:14,960
\nthereof.
\nAnd when the chief shepherd <\/p>\n
431
\n00:33:14,960 –> 00:33:18,600
\nshall appear Now, who does he
\nthink is really in charge? <\/p>\n
432
\n00:33:21,000 –> 00:33:24,840
\nShall ye shall receive a crown
\nof glory that fadeth not away. <\/p>\n
433
\n00:33:25,320 –> 00:33:28,720
\nSo I thought that was helpful
\nmaybe or or maybe we need to go <\/p>\n
434
\n00:33:28,720 –> 00:33:31,960
\nto some place where where where
\nJesus very clearly does not <\/p>\n
435
\n00:33:31,960 –> 00:33:37,680
\nprovide the authority to bind
\nand loosen to be Peter’s alone <\/p>\n
436
\n00:33:37,680 –> 00:33:40,560
\nauthority, but is given to all
\nthe apostles because Matthew <\/p>\n
437
\n00:33:40,560 –> 00:33:43,960
\nchapter 18 verse 18 says very
\nnice saying to you what’s there.<\/p>\n
438
\n00:33:43,960 –> 00:33:49,600
\nI I can talk like a text in here
\nwhatsoever ye all shall bind on <\/p>\n
439
\n00:33:49,600 –> 00:33:52,320
\nearth and shall be bound in
\nheaven and whatsoever ye all <\/p>\n
440
\n00:33:52,360 –> 00:33:54,120
\nsee, you know what’s up with
\nEnglish? <\/p>\n
441
\n00:33:54,120 –> 00:33:56,400
\nWhy don’t we have y’all?
\nIt’s a very useful turn of <\/p>\n
442
\n00:33:56,400 –> 00:33:57,480
\nphrase, isn’t it?
\nRight. <\/p>\n
443
\n00:33:58,360 –> 00:34:01,800
\nI mean, I mean, I might be
\ntalking to you or might be <\/p>\n
444
\n00:34:01,800 –> 00:34:06,760
\ntalking to you all right, like
\nlike obviously I actually, as <\/p>\n
445
\n00:34:06,760 –> 00:34:11,840
\nmuch as we might sort of mock
\nit, it’s very, very useful to <\/p>\n
446
\n00:34:11,840 –> 00:34:13,960
\nknow whether I’m talking to you
\nor you. <\/p>\n
447
\n00:34:14,760 –> 00:34:18,719
\nLike that is that is a that most
\nother languages do not have that<\/p>\n
448
\n00:34:18,719 –> 00:34:21,480
\nproblem.
\nGreek doesn’t have that problem <\/p>\n
449
\n00:34:21,480 –> 00:34:22,840
\nand Latin doesn’t have that
\nproblem. <\/p>\n
450
\n00:34:22,840 –> 00:34:26,440
\nEven Hebrew doesn’t have that
\nproblem, but English, we need a <\/p>\n
451
\n00:34:26,440 –> 00:34:30,480
\ny’all if you ask me, right?
\nSo I’m just going to add the <\/p>\n
452
\n00:34:30,480 –> 00:34:33,440
\ny’all in here so you guys all
\nunderstand what I’m talking <\/p>\n
453
\n00:34:33,440 –> 00:34:35,600
\nabout right?
\nBarely. <\/p>\n
454
\n00:34:35,600 –> 00:34:40,360
\nI barely I say unto you,
\nwhatsoever ye all shall bind on <\/p>\n
455
\n00:34:40,360 –> 00:34:43,480
\nearth shall be bound in heaven.
\nWhatsoever ye all shall loose on<\/p>\n
456
\n00:34:43,480 –> 00:34:49,120
\nearth shall be loosed in heaven,
\nright so that that word is is a <\/p>\n
457
\n00:34:49,120 –> 00:34:56,159
\nplural you in the Greek so so
\nJesus is is is giving this power<\/p>\n
458
\n00:34:56,159 –> 00:35:00,920
\nto all the apostles.
\nAnd in fact, perhaps if you look<\/p>\n
459
\n00:35:00,920 –> 00:35:03,800
\nin the context of Matthew
\nchapter 18, maybe giving it to <\/p>\n
460
\n00:35:05,320 –> 00:35:10,360
\necclesial leaders in terms of
\ndealing with problems of <\/p>\n
461
\n00:35:10,360 –> 00:35:17,160
\nconflict within the ecclesia.
\nAnyways, that aside, maybe we <\/p>\n
462
\n00:35:17,160 –> 00:35:22,440
\nshould simply point out the
\npersonal nature of what Jesus <\/p>\n
463
\n00:35:22,440 –> 00:35:26,760
\nwas saying in Matthew 16,
\nbecause you’ll notice that <\/p>\n
464
\n00:35:26,920 –> 00:35:29,480
\nthere’s nothing in Matthew 16
\nabout office. <\/p>\n
465
\n00:35:30,520 –> 00:35:36,320
\nIn fact, Jesus seems to go out
\nof his way to not give Peter a <\/p>\n
466
\n00:35:36,320 –> 00:35:42,000
\ntitle in Matthew 15.
\nHe doesn’t say Blessed are you <\/p>\n
467
\n00:35:42,000 –> 00:35:46,520
\nPeter, Prince of the Apostles?
\nThat’s a title. <\/p>\n
468
\n00:35:47,760 –> 00:35:50,800
\nBlessed.
\nAre you Peter, head of the <\/p>\n
469
\n00:35:50,800 –> 00:35:53,160
\necclesia?
\nThat’d be a title. <\/p>\n
470
\n00:35:54,320 –> 00:35:56,440
\nNow.
\nNow, a title you could <\/p>\n
471
\n00:35:56,760 –> 00:36:02,680
\nreasonably pass along to a
\nsuccessor, but what does he say?<\/p>\n
472
\n00:36:02,960 –> 00:36:06,000
\nBless you, Peter.
\nWhat is it? <\/p>\n
473
\n00:36:06,000 –> 00:36:13,960
\nThis means you talk, right?
\nBless you, Peter Barjona, Right?<\/p>\n
474
\n00:36:15,960 –> 00:36:20,480
\nIt’s almost as if he’s saying
\nI’m going to make this so <\/p>\n
475
\n00:36:20,480 –> 00:36:24,680
\nspecifically you that no one
\nelse can claim this title. <\/p>\n
476
\n00:36:26,560 –> 00:36:31,040
\nDo you see that he doesn’t give
\nPeter a title? <\/p>\n
477
\n00:36:31,120 –> 00:36:33,440
\nHe doesn’t just say Peter
\nbecause maybe Peter becomes a <\/p>\n
478
\n00:36:33,440 –> 00:36:37,680
\ntitle stone.
\nIt’s Peter, son of this man, <\/p>\n
479
\n00:36:38,800 –> 00:36:48,300
\nspecifically you.
\nI’m giving you these keys, but <\/p>\n
480
\n00:36:48,300 –> 00:36:53,460
\nthe one thing I most want to
\nfocus on is the idea of binding <\/p>\n
481
\n00:36:53,460 –> 00:36:56,300
\nand loosening because that seems
\nto have the largest implications<\/p>\n
482
\n00:36:56,300 –> 00:37:00,480
\nhere.
\nSo how would binding and <\/p>\n
483
\n00:37:00,480 –> 00:37:03,400
\nloosening be understood in Jesus
\nday? <\/p>\n
484
\n00:37:03,760 –> 00:37:06,880
\nSo binding and loosening was a
\nrabbinic term. <\/p>\n
485
\n00:37:07,400 –> 00:37:10,920
\nYou know that because Jesus uses
\nit that way when he calls it <\/p>\n
486
\n00:37:10,920 –> 00:37:15,120
\nsays to the rabbis in Matthew
\nchapter 23, you bind burdens <\/p>\n
487
\n00:37:15,200 –> 00:37:20,280
\ngrievous to be born.
\nOK, so binding or or or or we <\/p>\n
488
\n00:37:20,280 –> 00:37:25,720
\nread in, in Isaiah 58 yesterday
\nwhere it says, what’s the, what <\/p>\n
489
\n00:37:25,720 –> 00:37:30,400
\nis the Sabbath I desire?
\nWhat’s the fastest I request to <\/p>\n
490
\n00:37:30,400 –> 00:37:34,280
\nunloose the burdens, unbind the
\nburdens. <\/p>\n
491
\n00:37:34,400 –> 00:37:38,920
\nYou see, binding is this idea of
\ntaking an animal, maybe like a <\/p>\n
492
\n00:37:38,920 –> 00:37:42,440
\ndonkey that carries a lot of
\nweight and you bind to the <\/p>\n
493
\n00:37:42,440 –> 00:37:47,280
\ndonkey the weight.
\nAnd then after the end of the <\/p>\n
494
\n00:37:47,280 –> 00:37:49,960
\njourney, you unloose the weight
\nfrom the donkey. <\/p>\n
495
\n00:37:49,960 –> 00:37:53,240
\nSo it’s a burden.
\nAnd So what happens is a <\/p>\n
496
\n00:37:53,240 –> 00:37:58,960
\nrabbinic term for interpreting a
\npassage in a way that requires <\/p>\n
497
\n00:37:58,960 –> 00:38:03,240
\nobedience, or interpreting a
\npassage in a way that relieves <\/p>\n
498
\n00:38:03,240 –> 00:38:08,680
\nthe requirement of obedience.
\nOK, binding and loosening. <\/p>\n
499
\n00:38:09,000 –> 00:38:12,160
\nIt’s basically saying it’s a way
\nof interpreting Scripture. <\/p>\n
500
\n00:38:12,960 –> 00:38:15,440
\nNow, what’s important about
\nthat? <\/p>\n
501
\n00:38:16,200 –> 00:38:17,840
\nWell, here’s what’s important
\nabout that. <\/p>\n
502
\n00:38:19,800 –> 00:38:21,760
\nScripture is the thing you’re
\ninterpreting. <\/p>\n
503
\n00:38:24,400 –> 00:38:29,960
\nEven if you complain about the
\nPharisees interpretations, one <\/p>\n
504
\n00:38:29,960 –> 00:38:33,960
\nthing is going to be common in
\nall their interpretations and <\/p>\n
505
\n00:38:33,960 –> 00:38:40,280
\nthat is is that they are
\ninterpretations of scripture. <\/p>\n
506
\n00:38:44,000 –> 00:38:51,000
\nDo you see that Scripture is
\nprescient and now I am <\/p>\n
507
\n00:38:51,000 –> 00:38:53,840
\ninterpreting it to bind or
\nloosen? <\/p>\n
508
\n00:38:55,520 –> 00:38:59,840
\nThat’s how Jesus disciples would
\nhave understood it. <\/p>\n
509
\n00:39:00,840 –> 00:39:05,520
\nI’m interpreting Scripture.
\nHow did the Catholic understand <\/p>\n
510
\n00:39:05,520 –> 00:39:09,120
\nthat?
\nWell, Peter or his assessors can<\/p>\n
511
\n00:39:09,120 –> 00:39:13,280
\nbind or loose of their own
\nvolition independent of <\/p>\n
512
\n00:39:13,280 –> 00:39:16,440
\nScripture.
\nAnd heaven will ratify whatever <\/p>\n
513
\n00:39:16,440 –> 00:39:19,200
\nthe Pope commands, even if it’s
\nnot based on God’s Word. <\/p>\n
514
\n00:39:19,480 –> 00:39:22,880
\nThat’s their interpretation.
\nYou see how that’s very <\/p>\n
515
\n00:39:22,880 –> 00:39:27,800
\ndifferent in one Scripture’s at
\nthe heart. <\/p>\n
516
\n00:39:28,720 –> 00:39:31,560
\nThe other is it doesn’t really
\nmatter what scripture says. <\/p>\n
517
\n00:39:35,160 –> 00:39:38,000
\nThe decision is itself
\nprecedent. <\/p>\n
518
\n00:39:41,160 –> 00:39:47,600
\nOK, well let’s look at the
\nanother example here in Jesus <\/p>\n
519
\n00:39:47,600 –> 00:39:50,160
\nJesus day, Scripture is the
\nultimate precedent. <\/p>\n
520
\n00:39:50,720 –> 00:39:55,560
\nPope decides and heaven in a
\nsense rubber stamps. <\/p>\n
521
\n00:39:57,600 –> 00:40:00,080
\nSo you see there, I just want
\nyou to understand that these are<\/p>\n
522
\n00:40:00,080 –> 00:40:03,400
\nvery different understandings of
\nwhat binding or loosening might <\/p>\n
523
\n00:40:03,560 –> 00:40:11,080
\nmight mean.
\nBut we have the words in Matthew<\/p>\n
524
\n00:40:11,080 –> 00:40:16,320
\nchapter 16 which almost give the
\nidea that the Catholic idea is <\/p>\n
525
\n00:40:16,320 –> 00:40:19,600
\nthe right one.
\nBecause let me just let me just <\/p>\n
526
\n00:40:19,600 –> 00:40:22,160
\nthrow back up on screen and see
\nif you see the trouble. <\/p>\n
527
\n00:40:24,840 –> 00:40:29,120
\nEnglish Whatsoever thou shalt
\nbind in earth shall be bound in <\/p>\n
528
\n00:40:29,120 –> 00:40:31,240
\nheaven.
\nWhatsoever thou shalt loose in <\/p>\n
529
\n00:40:31,240 –> 00:40:35,440
\nearth shall be loosed in heaven.
\nSo it feels like there’s an <\/p>\n
530
\n00:40:35,440 –> 00:40:39,080
\norder here.
\nIt feels like something’s <\/p>\n
531
\n00:40:39,080 –> 00:40:43,200
\nhappening on earth.
\nAnd then And then what’s <\/p>\n
532
\n00:40:43,200 –> 00:40:44,920
\nhappening is heaven’s going.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n
533
\n00:40:45,320 –> 00:40:46,560
\nGood.
\nBoo. <\/p>\n
534
\n00:40:47,400 –> 00:40:50,280
\nYou’ve decided.
\nI agree. <\/p>\n
535
\n00:40:51,000 –> 00:40:54,520
\nYou bound it here, I’m now going
\nto bind it in heaven. <\/p>\n
536
\n00:40:55,000 –> 00:40:58,240
\nYou lose it here, I’m now going
\nto lose it in heaven. <\/p>\n
537
\n00:40:58,240 –> 00:41:00,960
\nLike there’s an order.
\nYou see that now? <\/p>\n
538
\n00:41:01,280 –> 00:41:06,280
\nInterestingly, the Vulgate,
\nwhich is the Latin translation <\/p>\n
539
\n00:41:06,560 –> 00:41:10,920
\nof the Greek text which is made
\nby Jerome in the in the three <\/p>\n
540
\n00:41:10,920 –> 00:41:20,520
\nhundreds, reads the same way.
\nEarth, heaven, earth, heaven. <\/p>\n
541
\n00:41:21,040 –> 00:41:26,880
\nLike there’s an order.
\nNow, young people, have you <\/p>\n
542
\n00:41:26,880 –> 00:41:30,520
\never, ever listened to a brother
\nup here talking and he’s using <\/p>\n
543
\n00:41:30,520 –> 00:41:34,200
\nlike he’s he’s interpreting
\nscripture and what he’s doing is<\/p>\n
544
\n00:41:34,200 –> 00:41:36,280
\nhe’s going, well, wait, we need
\nto look at the Greek. <\/p>\n
545
\n00:41:36,440 –> 00:41:39,440
\nAnd even worse, ever seen a
\nbrother go like we need to look <\/p>\n
546
\n00:41:39,440 –> 00:41:41,680
\nat the tenses of words in the
\nGreek. <\/p>\n
547
\n00:41:42,120 –> 00:41:44,280
\nNow that’s when your eyes really
\nroll back into your head, isn’t <\/p>\n
548
\n00:41:44,280 –> 00:41:44,640
\nit?
\nRight. <\/p>\n
549
\n00:41:44,640 –> 00:41:48,120
\nYou’re like, I’m now looking at
\nGreek tenses. <\/p>\n
550
\n00:41:48,120 –> 00:41:50,800
\nAre you kidding me?
\nHow could I possibly need to <\/p>\n
551
\n00:41:50,800 –> 00:41:53,160
\nlook at Greek tenses to
\nunderstand scripture? <\/p>\n
552
\n00:41:56,280 –> 00:41:58,080
\nAm I?
\nAm I alone in being that <\/p>\n
553
\n00:41:58,080 –> 00:42:00,040
\nsarcastic?
\nI know that some of you are that<\/p>\n
554
\n00:42:00,040 –> 00:42:06,040
\nsarcastic, especially that row
\nand so. <\/p>\n
555
\n00:42:06,440 –> 00:42:10,840
\nSo I am now going to prove to
\nyou that if you do not <\/p>\n
556
\n00:42:10,840 –> 00:42:19,080
\nunderstand Greek grammar, you’re
\nstuffed, because that is not <\/p>\n
557
\n00:42:19,080 –> 00:42:24,000
\nwhat the Greek says.
\nNow, young people, raise your <\/p>\n
558
\n00:42:24,000 –> 00:42:25,080
\nhand if you know what the Greek
\nsays. <\/p>\n
559
\n00:42:27,480 –> 00:42:29,600
\nOh, would you like a lesson in
\nGreek? <\/p>\n
560
\n00:42:29,880 –> 00:42:32,520
\nRight.
\nI’m about to go to Greece. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:42:32,520 –> 00:42:37,120
\nI got to try this out here.
\nAll right, So what does it say <\/p>\n
562
\n00:42:37,120 –> 00:42:40,920
\nin the Greek?
\nWell, it says this. <\/p>\n
563
\n00:42:43,920 –> 00:42:47,320
\nWhatever you bind on earth will
\nhave been bound in heaven. <\/p>\n
564
\n00:42:49,840 –> 00:42:53,080
\nWhatever you loose on earth will
\nhave been loosed in heaven. <\/p>\n
565
\n00:42:55,800 –> 00:42:57,760
\nNow, of course, that’s not good
\nEnglish. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:42:58,440 –> 00:43:02,360
\nThat’s very, very awkward
\nEnglish, because the English <\/p>\n
567
\n00:43:02,360 –> 00:43:06,560
\ndoesn’t have the Greek tense
\nthat’s being used here. <\/p>\n
568
\n00:43:08,760 –> 00:43:10,240
\nSo what?
\nNeither does the Latin. <\/p>\n
569
\n00:43:11,800 –> 00:43:15,280
\nSo what do you do?
\nDo you just have a really <\/p>\n
570
\n00:43:15,280 –> 00:43:21,320
\nawkward translation?
\nWell, translator’s dilemma, <\/p>\n
571
\n00:43:21,320 –> 00:43:25,600
\nisn’t it?
\nSo the translators do as they <\/p>\n
572
\n00:43:25,600 –> 00:43:30,640
\nchoose that clean up the English
\nin order to make it sound <\/p>\n
573
\n00:43:30,640 –> 00:43:33,400
\nbetter.
\nBut by doing that, they destroy <\/p>\n
574
\n00:43:33,400 –> 00:43:34,880
\nwhat the Greek’s actually
\ngetting at. <\/p>\n
575
\n00:43:35,200 –> 00:43:39,560
\nIn fact, if you look at a,
\nthere’s some translations of the<\/p>\n
576
\n00:43:39,560 –> 00:43:41,560
\nGreek into English that are
\nliteral. <\/p>\n
577
\n00:43:42,000 –> 00:43:45,240
\nFor example, not to be clever
\nabout this, but there’s Young’s <\/p>\n
578
\n00:43:45,240 –> 00:43:47,440
\nliteral translation.
\nThat’s one of them, right? <\/p>\n
579
\n00:43:47,920 –> 00:43:51,640
\nBut there’s others.
\nSo I, I pulled the other three <\/p>\n
580
\n00:43:51,640 –> 00:43:54,600
\nliteral translations and say,
\nwhat are the literal <\/p>\n
581
\n00:43:54,600 –> 00:43:57,080
\ntranslations of the Greek to the
\nEnglish? <\/p>\n
582
\n00:43:57,120 –> 00:44:03,280
\nActually say Weymouth will have
\nalready been bound in heaven. <\/p>\n
583
\n00:44:05,800 –> 00:44:10,640
\nHow about Moffett will already
\nwill be already bound in heaven,<\/p>\n
584
\n00:44:12,600 –> 00:44:16,560
\nor Young’s literal shall be
\nhaving been bound in the <\/p>\n
585
\n00:44:16,560 –> 00:44:19,320
\nheavens?
\nYou sort of see how they’re <\/p>\n
586
\n00:44:19,320 –> 00:44:23,200
\ndifferent now.
\nWhat’s the implication of these <\/p>\n
587
\n00:44:23,200 –> 00:44:28,120
\nliteral translations relative to
\nwhat you might read in the King <\/p>\n
588
\n00:44:28,120 –> 00:44:33,880
\nJames?
\nThis can easily be interpreted <\/p>\n
589
\n00:44:34,600 –> 00:44:38,800
\nas what you’re doing on Earth
\nwill then be ratified in the <\/p>\n
590
\n00:44:38,800 –> 00:44:41,520
\nheavens.
\nThis will not allow for that. <\/p>\n
591
\n00:44:42,320 –> 00:44:46,080
\nWhat this says is what you’re
\ndoing on earth will already have<\/p>\n
592
\n00:44:46,080 –> 00:44:51,160
\nbeen done in heaven.
\nBasically what it’s saying is <\/p>\n
593
\n00:44:51,160 –> 00:44:54,000
\nthat the heavens will have
\nalready done it and you are now <\/p>\n
594
\n00:44:54,000 –> 00:45:00,480
\ngoing to align to the heavens.
\nNow the, the again, we looked at<\/p>\n
595
\n00:45:00,480 –> 00:45:04,200
\nthis the other day, but a good
\nexample is the Jerusalem Council<\/p>\n
596
\n00:45:04,200 –> 00:45:07,400
\nin circumcision.
\nNow, when they decided that <\/p>\n
597
\n00:45:07,400 –> 00:45:12,920
\ncircumcision was no longer
\nrequired for the Gentile <\/p>\n
598
\n00:45:12,920 –> 00:45:21,880
\nbelievers, do you think heaven
\nwent, oh, that’s a good idea, or<\/p>\n
599
\n00:45:21,880 –> 00:45:27,800
\nwould we understand Colossians
\nto have interpreted for us that <\/p>\n
600
\n00:45:27,800 –> 00:45:31,000
\nChrist’s death was the putting
\noff of the flesh? <\/p>\n
601
\n00:45:33,160 –> 00:45:36,680
\nIn other words, heaven had
\nalready figured this issue out. <\/p>\n
602
\n00:45:38,720 –> 00:45:42,280
\nThere’s no doubt the flesh had
\nto be put off, but the means by <\/p>\n
603
\n00:45:42,280 –> 00:45:44,800
\nwhat it which it was put off was
\nchanged. <\/p>\n
604
\n00:45:46,680 –> 00:45:51,920
\nHeaven had already done it.
\nSo what was earth doing aligning<\/p>\n
605
\n00:45:51,920 –> 00:45:53,280
\nto what had already bound in
\nheaven? <\/p>\n
606
\n00:45:55,360 –> 00:45:59,680
\nThat’s the truth.
\nBut do you know what a better <\/p>\n
607
\n00:45:59,680 –> 00:46:03,920
\nexample is?
\nSo, so let’s just say that <\/p>\n
608
\n00:46:04,000 –> 00:46:07,400
\nPeter’s giving this power that
\nwhatever he decides, heaven’s <\/p>\n
609
\n00:46:07,400 –> 00:46:11,760
\ngoing to ratify.
\nSo what we really need then is <\/p>\n
610
\n00:46:11,760 –> 00:46:15,120
\nwe need a test case.
\nThe test case is Peter and <\/p>\n
611
\n00:46:15,120 –> 00:46:20,080
\nHeaven disagree.
\nAnd if Peter and Heaven <\/p>\n
612
\n00:46:20,080 –> 00:46:25,320
\ndisagree, but then Heaven has to
\nacquiesce to Peter, then it <\/p>\n
613
\n00:46:25,320 –> 00:46:29,840
\nshows for certain that Heaven is
\ngoing to rubber stamp Peter’s <\/p>\n
614
\n00:46:29,840 –> 00:46:33,160
\nideas.
\nBut if Peter and Heaven disagree<\/p>\n
615
\n00:46:33,560 –> 00:46:38,080
\nand Peter has to come along to
\nHeaven’s interpretation, then we<\/p>\n
616
\n00:46:38,080 –> 00:46:40,720
\nknow that Peter has to align.
\nWhere? <\/p>\n
617
\n00:46:40,720 –> 00:46:43,000
\nWhere will we find a test case
\nlike that? <\/p>\n
618
\n00:46:44,520 –> 00:46:47,960
\nHow about Matthew 16 with
\nMatthew 16? <\/p>\n
619
\n00:46:47,960 –> 00:46:52,040
\nGive us a test case.
\nBecause what happens in Matthew <\/p>\n
620
\n00:46:52,040 –> 00:46:55,080
\n16?
\nWell, Matthew 16, Jesus is going<\/p>\n
621
\n00:46:55,080 –> 00:46:59,320
\nto reveal to Peter what the work
\nof the Messiah really ought to <\/p>\n
622
\n00:46:59,320 –> 00:47:03,440
\nbe.
\nHe’s going to be, he’s going to <\/p>\n
623
\n00:47:03,440 –> 00:47:06,920
\nbe taken by the the original
\nauthorities, he’s going to be <\/p>\n
624
\n00:47:06,920 –> 00:47:09,560
\nkilled and he’s going to be
\nresurrected the third day. <\/p>\n
625
\n00:47:12,200 –> 00:47:16,160
\nAnd So what happens then is
\nPeter took him and began to <\/p>\n
626
\n00:47:16,160 –> 00:47:18,320
\nrebuke him, saying be it far
\nfrom these. <\/p>\n
627
\n00:47:18,320 –> 00:47:22,560
\nSo this is our test case.
\nPeter and Heaven disagree. <\/p>\n
628
\n00:47:22,560 –> 00:47:27,560
\nPeter and Jesus disagree about
\nwhat the role of the Messiah <\/p>\n
629
\n00:47:27,560 –> 00:47:30,280
\nshould be.
\nThey are, in a sense, <\/p>\n
630
\n00:47:30,360 –> 00:47:32,480
\ninterpreting those passages
\ndifferently. <\/p>\n
631
\n00:47:32,480 –> 00:47:35,320
\nPeter has an interpretation of a
\nmessianic scripture. <\/p>\n
632
\n00:47:35,520 –> 00:47:37,600
\nJesus has an understanding of
\nmessianic scripture. <\/p>\n
633
\n00:47:37,880 –> 00:47:41,360
\nAnd I wonder who’s going to win
\nthis little contest? <\/p>\n
634
\n00:47:51,090 –> 00:47:57,450
\nIt says there get behind me
\nSatan, thou art an offense to me<\/p>\n
635
\n00:47:57,930 –> 00:48:02,200
\nfor their savourest.
\nNot the things that be of God, <\/p>\n
636
\n00:48:02,520 –> 00:48:04,520
\nbut the things that be of men.
\nHuh. <\/p>\n
637
\n00:48:04,920 –> 00:48:15,280
\nWhen Peter and Heaven disagree,
\nwho aligns right there in <\/p>\n
638
\n00:48:15,280 –> 00:48:17,960
\nMatthew 16?
\nWhy? <\/p>\n
639
\n00:48:18,240 –> 00:48:22,840
\nBecause I think the Spirit knew
\nwe needed a a a good example <\/p>\n
640
\n00:48:24,840 –> 00:48:27,600
\njust in case we didn’t
\nunderstand this properly. <\/p>\n
641
\n00:48:35,280 –> 00:48:39,200
\nSo the idea is simply this.
\nWhen Peter’s views clash with <\/p>\n
642
\n00:48:39,200 –> 00:48:42,200
\nGod’s will, it was heaven that
\nprevailed, not Peter. <\/p>\n
643
\n00:48:43,200 –> 00:48:48,680
\nThe record leaves no doubt
\nHeaven binds Peter lines, not <\/p>\n
644
\n00:48:48,840 –> 00:48:51,400
\nthe other way around.
\nClear to everyone. <\/p>\n
645
\n00:48:54,360 –> 00:48:57,480
\nShould I take it to Rome?
\nThink they’ll listen? <\/p>\n
646
\n00:49:02,560 –> 00:49:06,320
\nSo the Catholic Church’s
\ninsistence that Peter’s the rock<\/p>\n
647
\n00:49:06,320 –> 00:49:11,200
\nupon which the Church is built,
\nwhat it does is it shifts the <\/p>\n
648
\n00:49:11,200 –> 00:49:15,640
\nfoundation of the ecclesia from
\na perfect man to a sinful man. <\/p>\n
649
\n00:49:15,760 –> 00:49:19,240
\nDo you see that?
\nSo when I, when I build the <\/p>\n
650
\n00:49:19,240 –> 00:49:23,840
\necclesia on Peter, now the whole
\necclesia is built on a sinful <\/p>\n
651
\n00:49:23,840 –> 00:49:27,240
\nman.
\nNow, not that Peter was not a <\/p>\n
652
\n00:49:27,280 –> 00:49:32,080
\nman that was saved and that had
\nbeen cherished, but he was a <\/p>\n
653
\n00:49:32,080 –> 00:49:40,960
\nSinner.
\nAnd by doing this, you allow the<\/p>\n
654
\n00:49:41,000 –> 00:49:46,120
\nedifice of the ecclesia or the
\nChurch now to be in men’s hands.<\/p>\n
655
\n00:49:48,400 –> 00:49:54,240
\nAnd that allows a system where
\nman, not Christ, wields the <\/p>\n
656
\n00:49:54,240 –> 00:50:01,000
\ndominion.
\nIt consolidated power in the <\/p>\n
657
\n00:50:01,000 –> 00:50:05,080
\nhands of men.
\nIt’s a very important shift. <\/p>\n
658
\n00:50:06,760 –> 00:50:10,360
\nBy the way, in our cliches.
\nOur cliches are not built on <\/p>\n
659
\n00:50:10,360 –> 00:50:14,360
\nmen.
\nNever forget that, young people,<\/p>\n
660
\n00:50:15,200 –> 00:50:17,400
\nthere’s going to be brothers and
\nsisters that let you down. <\/p>\n
661
\n00:50:18,360 –> 00:50:21,400
\nIt will happen.
\nWe’ve all been let down by <\/p>\n
662
\n00:50:21,400 –> 00:50:24,560
\npeople.
\nWe don’t want to talk about it <\/p>\n
663
\n00:50:24,560 –> 00:50:28,280
\nsometimes.
\nWe’ve all had people that have <\/p>\n
664
\n00:50:28,280 –> 00:50:32,320
\nlet us down, people that we
\nlooked up to, that made such <\/p>\n
665
\n00:50:32,320 –> 00:50:36,200
\nhuge mistakes, sometimes leaving
\nthe truth altogether, sometimes <\/p>\n
666
\n00:50:36,200 –> 00:50:40,400
\nharming people that we love.
\nIt happens. <\/p>\n
667
\n00:50:41,880 –> 00:50:45,720
\nWe do not build our faith on
\nsinful men. <\/p>\n
668
\n00:50:46,320 –> 00:50:49,040
\nWe do not do it.
\nWe will never do it. <\/p>\n
669
\n00:50:51,080 –> 00:50:56,480
\nIt must be built on Christ.
\nThe foundation of the ecclesia <\/p>\n
670
\n00:50:56,720 –> 00:51:01,840
\nis not Peter or any man that’s
\nsinned, it’s on Christ the chief<\/p>\n
671
\n00:51:01,840 –> 00:51:03,960
\ncornerstone.
\nHe’s the rock on which the <\/p>\n
672
\n00:51:03,960 –> 00:51:07,000
\necclesia is built.
\nThe authority to bind and loose <\/p>\n
673
\n00:51:07,000 –> 00:51:10,680
\nrests in faithful preaching of
\nthe Gospel that aligns to <\/p>\n
674
\n00:51:10,680 –> 00:51:12,160
\nheaven, not the other way
\naround. <\/p>\n
675
\n00:51:12,920 –> 00:51:20,360
\nIn other words, Thy will be done
\non not as it is in. <\/p>\n
676
\n00:51:21,200 –> 00:51:26,120
\nDo you see how the order goes?
\nOr is Jesus prayer just a <\/p>\n
677
\n00:51:26,120 –> 00:51:47,720
\ncontradiction to Matthew 16?
\nSo that brings us back then to <\/p>\n
678
\n00:51:47,960 –> 00:51:52,320
\nSeptember 1870.
\nThe Italian army marches into <\/p>\n
679
\n00:51:52,320 –> 00:51:58,360
\nRome and the Pope’s temporal
\npower is gone for good. <\/p>\n
680
\n00:52:00,280 –> 00:52:05,880
\nNow, when the Pope and the
\npapacy lost temporal power, <\/p>\n
681
\n00:52:05,880 –> 00:52:09,280
\nChristadelphians had a lot to
\nsay about this. <\/p>\n
682
\n00:52:10,600 –> 00:52:13,400
\nAnd in all, and then you can go
\nback into the and read the <\/p>\n
683
\n00:52:13,400 –> 00:52:17,440
\nChristadelphian magazine in
\n1870, of which I haven’t read it<\/p>\n
684
\n00:52:17,440 –> 00:52:20,320
\nin, in, in entirety, but I’ve
\nread snippets of it. <\/p>\n
685
\n00:52:21,920 –> 00:52:27,960
\nAnd there’s a lot of commentary
\nin our community on what’s <\/p>\n
686
\n00:52:27,960 –> 00:52:30,840
\nhappening in 1870.
\nI mean, it’s interesting because<\/p>\n
687
\n00:52:31,200 –> 00:52:34,480
\nwe look at things in history.
\nWe don’t have any commentary <\/p>\n
688
\n00:52:34,480 –> 00:52:36,800
\nfrom our community on it, but
\nthis is one of those instances <\/p>\n
689
\n00:52:36,800 –> 00:52:43,080
\nwhere we do and our community
\nover and over and over again the<\/p>\n
690
\n00:52:43,120 –> 00:52:46,280
\nthe writers are saying, Robert
\nRoberts especially go back to <\/p>\n
691
\n00:52:46,280 –> 00:52:48,000
\nDaniel 7, go back to Daniel
\nseven. <\/p>\n
692
\n00:52:48,000 –> 00:52:51,320
\nLook at Daniel 7.
\nThink, well, what, what is it <\/p>\n
693
\n00:52:51,320 –> 00:52:55,040
\nabout Daniel Seven that they
\nwant us to pay attention to our,<\/p>\n
694
\n00:52:55,040 –> 00:52:57,280
\nour, our founding pioneer
\nbrother? <\/p>\n
695
\n00:52:58,400 –> 00:53:01,400
\nWell, they especially say that
\nwe ought to look at this <\/p>\n
696
\n00:53:01,400 –> 00:53:03,760
\npassage.
\nNow you think to yourself, what <\/p>\n
697
\n00:53:03,760 –> 00:53:07,080
\ndoes this passage have to do
\nwith with what all the things <\/p>\n
698
\n00:53:07,080 –> 00:53:10,840
\nthat has happened about the Pope
\nlosing power, etcetera. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:53:10,840 –> 00:53:13,560
\nIt says there and the little
\nhorn, Does anyone know what the <\/p>\n
700
\n00:53:13,560 –> 00:53:15,240
\nlittle horn is?
\nInterpretation of the little <\/p>\n
701
\n00:53:15,240 –> 00:53:16,800
\nhorn in Scripture.
\nAny young people? <\/p>\n
702
\n00:53:16,800 –> 00:53:22,760
\nWhat do you think it is?
\nYeah. <\/p>\n
703
\n00:53:22,920 –> 00:53:25,920
\nOK, So you’re getting close.
\nIt’s it’s it’s really the <\/p>\n
704
\n00:53:25,920 –> 00:53:28,920
\npapacy.
\nAnd the little horn shall speak <\/p>\n
705
\n00:53:28,920 –> 00:53:32,760
\ngreat words against the Most
\nHigh, and shall wear out the <\/p>\n
706
\n00:53:32,760 –> 00:53:36,520
\nSaints of the Most High, and to
\nthink to change times and laws, <\/p>\n
707
\n00:53:36,720 –> 00:53:40,160
\nand they should be given into
\nhis hand until a time and times <\/p>\n
708
\n00:53:40,440 –> 00:53:44,120
\nand the dividing of time.
\nBut the judgement shall sit, and<\/p>\n
709
\n00:53:44,120 –> 00:53:47,880
\nthey shall take away his
\ndominion to consume and destroy <\/p>\n
710
\n00:53:47,880 –> 00:53:52,440
\nit unto the end.
\nOK, so why are the pioneer <\/p>\n
711
\n00:53:52,440 –> 00:53:55,480
\nbrethren in our community
\nsaying, Hey everyone, pay <\/p>\n
712
\n00:53:55,480 –> 00:53:59,840
\nattention to this passage.
\nWell, we got to figure out what <\/p>\n
713
\n00:53:59,840 –> 00:54:02,720
\ntime times and dividing a time
\nis right. <\/p>\n
714
\n00:54:03,320 –> 00:54:09,240
\nNow, again, that looks obscure.
\nWhat could that possibly be? <\/p>\n
715
\n00:54:10,040 –> 00:54:12,440
\nI’m going to give you a
\nsuggestion that our pioneer <\/p>\n
716
\n00:54:12,440 –> 00:54:17,520
\nbrethren believed and I think is
\nvery well supported, OK, They <\/p>\n
717
\n00:54:17,520 –> 00:54:20,560
\nwould say a prophetic year is
\n360 days. <\/p>\n
718
\n00:54:23,160 –> 00:54:26,440
\nOK.
\nSo time, time and half a time <\/p>\n
719
\n00:54:26,520 –> 00:54:32,360
\nmight be considered as one year,
\n360 days times or two years of <\/p>\n
720
\n00:54:32,360 –> 00:54:37,880
\n720 days and half the time or
\nhalf a year which is 180 days. <\/p>\n
721
\n00:54:37,880 –> 00:54:43,640
\nNow if I add together 36720 and
\n180, I get 1260. <\/p>\n
722
\n00:54:44,800 –> 00:54:47,760
\nYou followed that so far,
\neveryone get that? <\/p>\n
723
\n00:54:48,040 –> 00:54:50,560
\nOK, maybe that’s an idea of what
\nthis means. <\/p>\n
724
\n00:54:50,760 –> 00:54:56,920
\nNow it just so happens that
\n12160 days, if I have 30 months,<\/p>\n
725
\n00:54:56,920 –> 00:55:03,720
\n30 day months, that’s 42 months.
\nThis dividing 1260 by 30, I get <\/p>\n
726
\n00:55:03,720 –> 00:55:06,440
\n42.
\nNow there’s a couple interesting<\/p>\n
727
\n00:55:06,440 –> 00:55:11,320
\npassages.
\nOne passage is Revelation 13, <\/p>\n
728
\n00:55:11,320 –> 00:55:13,560
\nverse 5.
\nIt says, and there was given <\/p>\n
729
\n00:55:13,560 –> 00:55:16,000
\nunto him a mouth speaking great
\nthings. <\/p>\n
730
\n00:55:16,040 –> 00:55:18,760
\nGosh, where do we hear about a
\nmouth speaking great things by <\/p>\n
731
\n00:55:18,760 –> 00:55:22,400
\nthe way?
\nOh yeah, Daniel 7 just sang and <\/p>\n
732
\n00:55:22,400 –> 00:55:25,680
\nblasphemies and power was given
\nunto him for how long? <\/p>\n
733
\n00:55:26,840 –> 00:55:30,520
\n42 months.
\nInteresting. 42 months. <\/p>\n
734
\n00:55:30,680 –> 00:55:33,800
\nWell, Daniel said time, time and
\nhalf a time, but this passage <\/p>\n
735
\n00:55:33,800 –> 00:55:38,320
\nsays 42 months.
\nSo maybe this this whole idea of<\/p>\n
736
\n00:55:38,320 –> 00:55:42,600
\none year, 2 years and half a
\nyear is got some merit. <\/p>\n
737
\n00:55:43,040 –> 00:55:47,920
\nOK, well there’s another passage
\nand I will give power into my 2 <\/p>\n
738
\n00:55:47,920 –> 00:55:53,960
\nwitnesses and they shall
\nprophecy 1203 score days. <\/p>\n
739
\n00:55:53,960 –> 00:55:58,760
\nWhere do we see that 1203 score?
\nOh, yeah, that was our <\/p>\n
740
\n00:55:58,760 –> 00:56:03,240
\nunderstanding of maybe what time
\ntimes in half the time is. <\/p>\n
741
\n00:56:03,240 –> 00:56:07,400
\nOK, Well, so I’m just suggesting
\nto you that maybe this time <\/p>\n
742
\n00:56:07,400 –> 00:56:14,600
\ntimes in half the time is 1260.
\nOK, Well, if I have a day for a <\/p>\n
743
\n00:56:14,600 –> 00:56:16,840
\nyear, and that’s maybe
\nestablished by some of these <\/p>\n
744
\n00:56:16,840 –> 00:56:24,880
\npassages you see right in front
\nof you. 1870, the papacy loses <\/p>\n
745
\n00:56:24,880 –> 00:56:26,560
\nDominion.
\nWhat do I mean by Dominion? <\/p>\n
746
\n00:56:26,560 –> 00:56:28,640
\nWhat’s Dominion?
\nDominion’s political power. <\/p>\n
747
\n00:56:29,480 –> 00:56:33,200
\nSo in 1870, the the papacy lost
\nall its political power. <\/p>\n
748
\n00:56:33,400 –> 00:56:38,120
\nWell, what happened about 1260
\nyears earlier? <\/p>\n
749
\n00:56:39,720 –> 00:56:41,800
\nThe Byzantine impair for the
\nfirst time. <\/p>\n
750
\n00:56:41,800 –> 00:56:46,280
\nAnd he was focused and he was a
\nlousy emperor, by the way, one <\/p>\n
751
\n00:56:46,280 –> 00:56:48,880
\nof the worst they ever had.
\nNot because of this decision. <\/p>\n
752
\n00:56:48,880 –> 00:56:53,320
\nWell, maybe because of this
\ndecision, he’s the first person <\/p>\n
753
\n00:56:53,320 –> 00:56:57,760
\nthat ever said the Bishop of
\nRome was the head of all the <\/p>\n
754
\n00:56:57,760 –> 00:57:03,200
\nchurches.
\nOK so for the first time the <\/p>\n
755
\n00:57:03,200 –> 00:57:09,360
\nBishop of Rome is given by
\npolitical power, authority over <\/p>\n
756
\n00:57:09,360 –> 00:57:18,000
\nall the church, and 12160 years
\nlater the Papsi loses all <\/p>\n
757
\n00:57:18,000 –> 00:57:21,680
\npolitical power.
\nNow I would just suggest to you <\/p>\n
758
\n00:57:22,000 –> 00:57:26,000
\nthat that’s the time period in
\nwhich the Saints were worn out. <\/p>\n
759
\n00:57:28,240 –> 00:57:31,680
\nThe Catholic Church hasn’t had
\nmuch power to persecute you <\/p>\n
760
\n00:57:31,680 –> 00:57:37,840
\nsince 1870, but you should just
\nread up on how the Catholic <\/p>\n
761
\n00:57:37,840 –> 00:57:43,600
\nChurch would have persecuted you
\nbefore 1870 because it is a <\/p>\n
762
\n00:57:43,600 –> 00:57:46,200
\ndifficult story to read.
\nIt’s in Alpes, Israel. <\/p>\n
763
\n00:57:46,200 –> 00:57:47,800
\nRead about the Huguenots for
\nexample. <\/p>\n
764
\n00:57:47,800 –> 00:57:49,480
\nRead the section about the two
\nwitnesses. <\/p>\n
765
\n00:57:50,640 –> 00:57:53,000
\nYou don’t understand what it’s
\nlike to hold your beliefs <\/p>\n
766
\n00:57:53,000 –> 00:57:55,360
\nwithout persecution.
\nI don’t think you wouldn’t know <\/p>\n
767
\n00:57:55,360 –> 00:57:58,640
\nit naturally.
\nAnd the reason you can hold your<\/p>\n
768
\n00:57:58,640 –> 00:58:01,960
\nbeliefs right now without
\npersecution is because the <\/p>\n
769
\n00:58:01,960 –> 00:58:04,440
\nCatholic power no longer has
\ndominion. <\/p>\n
770
\n00:58:05,320 –> 00:58:07,560
\nBecause when it did, it would
\nhave killed you. <\/p>\n
771
\n00:58:11,240 –> 00:58:18,800
\nAnd we don’t live in that world
\nnow, but brethren have, and it <\/p>\n
772
\n00:58:18,800 –> 00:58:22,480
\nstarted here, which happened to
\nbe 12160 years earlier. <\/p>\n
773
\n00:58:23,280 –> 00:58:27,000
\nSo on our community, the
\nbrethren were saying look at <\/p>\n
774
\n00:58:27,000 –> 00:58:32,520
\nthis.
\nJohn Thomas said this 22 years <\/p>\n
775
\n00:58:32,520 –> 00:58:35,640
\nbefore he had passed away.
\nBy the time 1870 had turned <\/p>\n
776
\n00:58:35,640 –> 00:58:37,840
\naround.
\nHe died in the 1860’s. <\/p>\n
777
\n00:58:38,160 –> 00:58:41,280
\nThe temporal dominion of the
\npapacy will be consumed <\/p>\n
778
\n00:58:41,280 –> 00:58:45,000
\ngradually as the kingdoms of men
\nreject its authority and assert <\/p>\n
779
\n00:58:45,000 –> 00:58:49,400
\ntheir independence.
\nThis is the consumption foretold<\/p>\n
780
\n00:58:49,640 –> 00:58:53,600
\nin Daniel 726, which will
\ncontinue until the system is <\/p>\n
781
\n00:58:53,600 –> 00:58:58,760
\nentirely destroyed at the coming
\nof the Ancient of Days. <\/p>\n
782
\n00:58:59,840 –> 00:59:04,560
\nSo what I’m saying is that these
\nwords proved to be pretty <\/p>\n
783
\n00:59:04,560 –> 00:59:07,800
\naccurate.
\nIn 1870, the papacy faced a <\/p>\n
784
\n00:59:07,800 –> 00:59:15,320
\ndefining moment when it formally
\nproclaimed the doctrine of papal<\/p>\n
785
\n00:59:15,320 –> 00:59:23,520
\ninfallibility.
\nOK, now in Daniel Chapter 7, <\/p>\n
786
\n00:59:23,520 –> 00:59:25,840
\nverse 25 and 26, it’s going to
\nsay this. <\/p>\n
787
\n00:59:26,680 –> 00:59:32,080
\nHe, the little horn, shall speak
\ngreat words against the Most <\/p>\n
788
\n00:59:32,080 –> 00:59:40,840
\nHigh.
\nNow, claiming that heaven has to<\/p>\n
789
\n00:59:40,840 –> 00:59:46,960
\nratify anything a sinful man
\nsays on earth because a sinful <\/p>\n
790
\n00:59:46,960 –> 01:00:01,440
\nman says it, that that heaven
\nbows the knee to earth, I’d say <\/p>\n
791
\n01:00:01,440 –> 01:00:06,960
\nthat’s great words against the
\nMost High, that a man on earth <\/p>\n
792
\n01:00:06,960 –> 01:00:11,960
\nis infallible and can compel
\nheaven to act, especially the <\/p>\n
793
\n01:00:11,960 –> 01:00:17,040
\nman in charge of that system.
\nAnd that’s exactly what Robert <\/p>\n
794
\n01:00:17,040 –> 01:00:20,200
\nRoberts said.
\nBecause he said in July 1870, <\/p>\n
795
\n01:00:20,440 –> 01:00:24,400
\nthe Pope has now proclaimed
\nhimself infallible, an audacious<\/p>\n
796
\n01:00:24,400 –> 01:00:27,480
\nclaim that none but the most
\nsuperstitious minds can accept. <\/p>\n
797
\n01:00:27,760 –> 01:00:34,760
\nThis is the great words spoken
\nby the little horn foretold in <\/p>\n
798
\n01:00:34,760 –> 01:00:43,240
\nDaniel 7.
\nSo let’s just now begin to come <\/p>\n
799
\n01:00:43,240 –> 01:00:46,480
\nback to the start of the story
\nand Caesarea Philippi, a city <\/p>\n
800
\n01:00:46,480 –> 01:00:49,520
\nthat we looked at, which was
\nsteeped in symbolic meaning. <\/p>\n
801
\n01:00:50,600 –> 01:00:56,200
\nCaesarea Philippi was a place
\nwhere Roman worship of men was <\/p>\n
802
\n01:00:56,200 –> 01:01:04,680
\nmingled of Pagan religion.
\nAnd it was here in Caesarea <\/p>\n
803
\n01:01:04,680 –> 01:01:07,440
\nPhilippi that Peter made a
\nconfession. <\/p>\n
804
\n01:01:07,440 –> 01:01:09,560
\nThou art the Christ, the Son of
\nthe living God. <\/p>\n
805
\n01:01:10,480 –> 01:01:14,360
\nAnd it was here that Jesus
\ndeclared the gates of Hades <\/p>\n
806
\n01:01:14,600 –> 01:01:22,680
\nshall not prevail against that.
\nBut Scripture is actually pretty<\/p>\n
807
\n01:01:22,680 –> 01:01:32,800
\nvivid about what the gates of
\nHades prevail against and the <\/p>\n
808
\n01:01:32,800 –> 01:01:38,120
\ngates of Hades will prevail
\nagainst the Catholic system <\/p>\n
809
\n01:01:41,640 –> 01:01:45,160
\nbecause Revelation chapter 14
\nverse 8 and 11 say. <\/p>\n
810
\n01:01:45,160 –> 01:01:49,360
\nAnd there followed another Angel
\nsaying, Babylon is fallen, is <\/p>\n
811
\n01:01:49,360 –> 01:01:53,400
\nfallen, that great city, and the
\nsmoke of their torment ascendeth<\/p>\n
812
\n01:01:53,480 –> 01:01:56,440
\nup forever and ever.
\nThey have no rest day or night, <\/p>\n
813
\n01:01:56,440 –> 01:02:00,200
\nwho worship the beast, his
\nimage, and whoever receiveth the<\/p>\n
814
\n01:02:00,200 –> 01:02:03,360
\nmark of his name.
\nNow maybe you don’t think that <\/p>\n
815
\n01:02:03,360 –> 01:02:09,640
\nis vivid enough.
\nA illustration of of this system<\/p>\n
816
\n01:02:11,400 –> 01:02:17,800
\nsymbolized by Babylon falling
\ninto Hades. <\/p>\n
817
\n01:02:21,480 –> 01:02:25,680
\nHow about this?
\nThe beast was taken, and with <\/p>\n
818
\n01:02:25,680 –> 01:02:29,280
\nhim the false prophet that
\nwrought miracles before him with<\/p>\n
819
\n01:02:29,280 –> 01:02:32,520
\nwhich he deceived, them that
\nreceived the mark of the beast, <\/p>\n
820
\n01:02:32,960 –> 01:02:34,600
\nand them that worship this
\nimage. <\/p>\n
821
\n01:02:35,000 –> 01:02:41,120
\nAnd these were cast into the
\nlake of fire, burning with <\/p>\n
822
\n01:02:41,120 –> 01:02:45,840
\nbrimstone.
\nYou see, brothers, sisters and <\/p>\n
823
\n01:02:45,840 –> 01:02:49,920
\nyoung people, what I’m trying to
\nmake a case in front of you is <\/p>\n
824
\n01:02:49,920 –> 01:02:56,480
\nsimply this.
\nHades is going to prevail on <\/p>\n
825
\n01:02:56,640 –> 01:03:06,640
\nthat system and it will not
\nprevail on the true Aquitia, the<\/p>\n
826
\n01:03:06,640 –> 01:03:09,320
\ncalled out ones.
\nWe share the genuine faith of <\/p>\n
827
\n01:03:09,320 –> 01:03:13,840
\nPeter, those who believe that
\nJesus is the Jewish Messiah, the<\/p>\n
828
\n01:03:13,840 –> 01:03:16,800
\nSon of the living God, descended
\nfrom David, promised by the <\/p>\n
829
\n01:03:16,800 –> 01:03:22,000
\nprophets.
\nThat is the foundation, that <\/p>\n
830
\n01:03:22,000 –> 01:03:27,520
\nfaith, that Jesus is that man on
\nwhich the ecclesia is built. <\/p>\n
831
\n01:03:28,880 –> 01:03:33,240
\nIt is unshakeable because it
\nrests not on men, it rests on <\/p>\n
832
\n01:03:33,360 –> 01:03:37,600
\nChrist.
\nThose who are part of this true <\/p>\n
833
\n01:03:37,600 –> 01:03:41,640
\nfaith of called out ones and are
\nwritten in the book of life will<\/p>\n
834
\n01:03:41,640 –> 01:03:46,160
\nnot face the lake of fire
\nbecause they belong to Christ. <\/p>\n
835
\n01:03:46,160 –> 01:03:51,360
\nThey have no part in Babylon,
\nthe harlot or the beast, and <\/p>\n
836
\n01:03:51,360 –> 01:03:53,640
\ntheir hope is the coming of the
\nKingdom of God. <\/p>\n
837
\n01:03:54,880 –> 01:04:02,000
\nAnd they’ll be no part of that
\nabominable system, no part that <\/p>\n
838
\n01:04:02,000 –> 01:04:06,760
\nenters into the Kingdom, because
\nwe’re told that there shall no <\/p>\n
839
\n01:04:06,760 –> 01:04:12,720
\nwise enter into it anything that
\ndefileth neither whatsoever <\/p>\n
840
\n01:04:12,720 –> 01:04:15,440
\nworketh abomination or maketh a
\nlie. <\/p>\n
841
\n01:04:16,840 –> 01:04:19,680
\nBut they which are written in
\nthe Lamb’s book of life. <\/p>\n
842
\n01:04:20,960 –> 01:04:22,920
\nBrothers and sisters, these
\nideas aren’t new. <\/p>\n
843
\n01:04:24,760 –> 01:04:27,400
\nThese ideas were boldly
\nproclaimed by our pioneer <\/p>\n
844
\n01:04:27,400 –> 01:04:29,680
\nbrethren from the very
\nbeginning. <\/p>\n
845
\n01:04:30,000 –> 01:04:32,440
\nJohn Thomas wrote extensively on
\nthese ideas. <\/p>\n
846
\n01:04:32,480 –> 01:04:36,360
\nAnd you’re in Elpis Israel, page
\n199 to 208. <\/p>\n
847
\n01:04:39,560 –> 01:04:44,200
\nThese were the truths that were
\npassionately upheld by the 1st <\/p>\n
848
\n01:04:44,200 –> 01:04:52,400
\ngeneration of Christadelphians.
\nBut time as a way of eroding <\/p>\n
849
\n01:04:52,400 –> 01:04:58,640
\nconviction.
\nHave we as a community, as a <\/p>\n
850
\n01:04:58,640 –> 01:05:03,760
\nquestion, that we have allowed
\nsome of these powerful truths to<\/p>\n
851
\n01:05:04,760 –> 01:05:06,920
\nfade into the background?
\nAre we? <\/p>\n
852
\n01:05:06,920 –> 01:05:11,280
\nBecause we are not under the
\npersecution of the politically <\/p>\n
853
\n01:05:11,280 –> 01:05:20,240
\naligned Catholic Church, we
\nbegin to not understand, as our <\/p>\n
854
\n01:05:20,680 –> 01:05:24,400
\nearliest brethren did, that this
\nsystem is the harlot of <\/p>\n
855
\n01:05:24,400 –> 01:05:30,560
\nrevelation.
\nMaybe we unwittingly begin to <\/p>\n
856
\n01:05:30,560 –> 01:05:35,120
\ndownplay the importance of
\nscriptural understanding, or <\/p>\n
857
\n01:05:35,120 –> 01:05:38,680
\nmaybe we treat the Bible as a
\ndry, boring subject. <\/p>\n
858
\n01:05:40,000 –> 01:05:42,040
\nThis is not a dry and boring
\nsubject. <\/p>\n
859
\n01:05:42,880 –> 01:05:46,040
\nAnd even though I made you look
\nat Greek tenses kind of <\/p>\n
860
\n01:05:46,040 –> 01:05:58,960
\nimportant, maybe even worse, we
\nbegin to adopt the idea that <\/p>\n
861
\n01:05:58,960 –> 01:06:01,000
\nmaybe we all just worship the
\nsame God. <\/p>\n
862
\n01:06:05,680 –> 01:06:07,280
\nThe doctrine doesn’t matter
\nanymore. <\/p>\n
863
\n01:06:09,880 –> 01:06:12,320
\nIf there’s one thing I want you
\nto take from this study is that <\/p>\n
864
\n01:06:12,320 –> 01:06:15,680
\nthe truth matters.
\nBible study matters. <\/p>\n
865
\n01:06:17,280 –> 01:06:21,920
\nCorrect exposition matters.
\nWe cannot relinquish. <\/p>\n
866
\n01:06:23,560 –> 01:06:26,080
\nYou know, we spend so much time
\nstudying the Word. <\/p>\n
867
\n01:06:26,080 –> 01:06:29,320
\nBut here’s the thing.
\nWhat Christopher Pians are <\/p>\n
868
\n01:06:29,320 –> 01:06:31,800
\nasking of you is to study the
\nword for yourself. <\/p>\n
869
\n01:06:33,360 –> 01:06:38,160
\nDo give the power of studying
\nthis to an institution of men. <\/p>\n
870
\n01:06:39,520 –> 01:06:45,040
\nDon’t yield it.
\nIt is your privilege to be able <\/p>\n
871
\n01:06:45,040 –> 01:06:48,560
\nto look at this and to look into
\nit to understand what it means. <\/p>\n
872
\n01:06:48,720 –> 01:06:51,320
\nYou do not have to give that to
\na priest. <\/p>\n
873
\n01:06:52,160 –> 01:06:54,200
\nYou don’t have to give that to
\nan institution. <\/p>\n
874
\n01:06:54,360 –> 01:06:56,160
\nThey will abuse it to control
\nyou. <\/p>\n
875
\n01:06:56,560 –> 01:07:00,280
\nThe only way you get to be free
\nis to find it within the word <\/p>\n
876
\n01:07:00,280 –> 01:07:02,680
\nyourself.
\nDon’t yield it. <\/p>\n
877
\n01:07:05,640 –> 01:07:14,220
\nThere’s power in these words.
\nThe papacy has claimed <\/p>\n
878
\n01:07:14,220 –> 01:07:18,420
\ninfallibility.
\nIn other words, whatever they <\/p>\n
879
\n01:07:18,420 –> 01:07:21,660
\nsay is the truth.
\nNo need to look. <\/p>\n
880
\n01:07:23,180 –> 01:07:27,700
\nDon’t believe it.
\nDon’t give that power to a man. <\/p>\n
881
\n01:07:28,160 –> 01:07:30,160
\nDo not give that power to a
\nsinful man. <\/p>\n
882
\n01:07:31,720 –> 01:07:36,200
\nThose things are going to be
\nthrown into the lake of fire. <\/p>\n
883
\n01:07:38,280 –> 01:07:43,000
\nIt’s the faith in Jesus Christ,
\nthe Son of the living God that’s<\/p>\n
884
\n01:07:43,000 –> 01:07:46,240
\ngoing to endure.
\nSo I ask of you to recommit <\/p>\n
885
\n01:07:46,240 –> 01:07:48,640
\nyourself to the study of the
\nWord of God, to the pursuit of <\/p>\n
886
\n01:07:48,640 –> 01:07:52,200
\ntruth, to the hope of the coming
\nKingdom, to stand firm on the <\/p>\n
887
\n01:07:52,200 –> 01:07:56,280
\nfoundation of Christ, knowing
\nthat the gates of Hades will <\/p>\n
888
\n01:07:56,280 –> 01:08:00,800
\nnever prevail, never ever
\nprevail against Christ’s true <\/p>\n
889
\n01:08:00,800 –> 01:08:01,280
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