{"id":1471,"date":"2026-04-26T21:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-26T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/397-ben-brinkerhoff-who-do-you-say-that-i-am\/"},"modified":"2026-07-28T11:05:10","modified_gmt":"2026-07-28T11:05:10","slug":"397-ben-brinkerhoff-who-do-you-say-that-i-am","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/397-ben-brinkerhoff-who-do-you-say-that-i-am\/","title":{"rendered":"397: Ben Brinkerhoff – Who Do you Say That I Am?"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week’s talk is from a series by Brother Ben Brinkerhoff titled “Who Do You Say That I Am?,” which was given at the Pinjarra Bible School in 2026. This is class 4, which has the same title as the overall series.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to Good Christophian
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\nthis week’s talk.
\nHey everyone, it’s Jason <\/p>\n

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\nHensley.
\nThis week we are going to be <\/p>\n

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\nlistening to a class by brother
\nBen Brinkerhoff. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is actually incredibly
\nrecent. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was given this month.
\nSo it’s given this month at the <\/p>\n

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\nPinjara Bible School.
\nThe overall series is called Who<\/p>\n

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\nDo You Say That I Am?
\nAnd interestingly enough, this <\/p>\n

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\nis the fourth class in the
\nseries, and the class is called <\/p>\n

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\nWho do you Say That I Am?
\nSo there you go. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s easy to remember.
\nNow, if you recognize the story,<\/p>\n

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\nyou might be able to put all
\nthis together. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is a series about Matthew
\n16. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s the chapter where Jesus
\nsays to his disciples, Who do <\/p>\n

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\nyou say that I am?
\nSo this is a series that is <\/p>\n

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\nlooking specifically at that.
\nIn this class, we are looking at<\/p>\n

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\nPeter’s confession where Peter
\nsays you are the Christ, the Son<\/p>\n

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\nof the living God.
\nAnd I, I love that part. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I’ve chosen this, this 4th
\none for our listening together. <\/p>\n

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\nI hope you enjoy it and I hope
\nyou find that it inspires you. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is Brother Ben Brinkerhoff.
\nWho do you say that I am? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd good morning again, brothers
\nand sisters. <\/p>\n

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\nI was a little bit lackluster,
\nbrothers and sisters, instead of<\/p>\n

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\nyou.
\nA bit tired. <\/p>\n

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\nDid we not get enough caffeine?
\nOK, I’m going to say it one more<\/p>\n

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\ntime, but you’re going to give
\nme some enthusiasm. <\/p>\n

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\nYou’re going to give me some
\nenergy. <\/p>\n

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\nReady.
\nGood morning, brothers and <\/p>\n

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\nsisters.
\nThank you very much. <\/p>\n

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\nI need it.
\nI need a little. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m feeling a little bit tired
\nmyself, so maybe this study will<\/p>\n

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\nbe a little bit more subdued
\nthan the last one. <\/p>\n

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\nBut.
\nBut if you knew me, then you’d <\/p>\n

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\nprobably think that’s not going
\nto be the case. <\/p>\n

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\nSo see what’s conveyed in this
\nchapter, this section that we <\/p>\n

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\njust read is at this moment,
\nthis confession by Peter is very<\/p>\n

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\nmeaningful to the Lord, but the
\nquestion is why? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s one of the questions I want
\nto consider in studying this <\/p>\n

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\nchapter.
\nWhy was this moment, why was <\/p>\n

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\nthis confession so important to
\nJesus? <\/p>\n

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\nBut beyond that, what inside
\ndoes that give me concerning <\/p>\n

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\nfaith confession and what Jesus
\nconsiders as his true ecclesia? <\/p>\n

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\nBut that’s only one of the
\nquestions I have about this <\/p>\n

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\nchapter.
\nI have quite a few. <\/p>\n

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\nFor example, we write about a
\nrock on which Jesus is going to <\/p>\n

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\nbuild as ecclesia.
\nWhat’s the rock? <\/p>\n

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\nWe talk about Peter being given
\nthe keys to the Kingdom of <\/p>\n

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\nheaven.
\nWhat are the keys? <\/p>\n

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\nWhat does it mean to bind and
\nloosen? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd does that give Peter some
\nsort of power over what God does<\/p>\n

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\nin heaven?
\nBecause you bind on earth and <\/p>\n

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\nthen it’s bound in heaven.
\nSo is heaven sort of like just <\/p>\n

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\ndoing what Peter wants in
\nresponse to what Peter’s <\/p>\n

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\ndeciding, or is this something
\ndifferent than that? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what is the gate of Hades
\nand why in particular does that <\/p>\n

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\nhave no power over the equation?
\nThese are just some of you. <\/p>\n

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\nYou sort of see like this
\nsection of Scripture, it’s full <\/p>\n

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\nof these little riddles.
\nAnd you look at this, you’re <\/p>\n

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\nlike, what is that about?
\nAnd actually, it’s profound. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat it, what it, what it is.
\nThe implications of that are <\/p>\n

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\nprofound.
\nSo what’s clear is that <\/p>\n

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\nChristian expositors and
\nCatholic expositors do not agree<\/p>\n

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\nabout what this chapter is all
\nabout. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd then implications are large
\nabout what it means. <\/p>\n

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\nSo these are the kind of
\nquestions that we’re going to <\/p>\n

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\nlook at over this next two
\nstudies, God willing. <\/p>\n

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\nSo this class is going to be
\nabout what these verses do mean.<\/p>\n

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\nAnd our first class Monday
\nmorning will be about what these<\/p>\n

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\nverses do not mean.
\nOK, So we’re going to kind of <\/p>\n

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\nsplit it up that way.
\nAnd in this class, I’m going to <\/p>\n

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\nmake 15 points in total, 15
\nexactly 15. <\/p>\n

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\nSo so that you don’t get lost.
\nAnd so I get lost because this <\/p>\n

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\nis going to be a there’s going
\nto be a lot of, I can’t answer <\/p>\n

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\nall these questions without a
\nlot of information. <\/p>\n

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\nWe can maybe all appreciate
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I decided to split it up into
\n15 different little bite sized <\/p>\n

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\nchunks.
\nAnd when we get to each of those<\/p>\n

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\n15, I’ll pause up at a slide up
\nso you can understand what it <\/p>\n

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\nwhat it is I’m trying I’m trying
\nto say in that section. <\/p>\n

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\nHopefully that helps us from
\ngetting lost in just the amount <\/p>\n

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\nof things that we’re going to be
\ntalking about this morning. <\/p>\n

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\nOK, occasionally, brothers and
\nsisters, let’s just dive into <\/p>\n

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\nthis first.
\nOccasionally the Gospels give us<\/p>\n

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\nsome insight into how the Lord
\nchooses Christ is feeling. <\/p>\n

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\nNot often, by the way, not as
\nmuch as you’d think. <\/p>\n

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\nWe not as much as we certainly
\nwant to know. <\/p>\n

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\nOften we go to the Psalms to
\nunderstand how the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nChrist is feeling in different
\nmoments, because Psalms are very<\/p>\n

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\nillustrative of that.
\nBut occasionally in the Gospels <\/p>\n

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\nwe get a sense of how the Lord
\nJesus Christ is feeling. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd one of the occasions that we
\nsee that is in Mark chapter 8, <\/p>\n

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\nverses 11 to 12, where we read
\nthe Pharisees came and began to <\/p>\n

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\nargue with him, seeking a sign
\nfrom heaven to test him and he <\/p>\n

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\nsighed deeply in his heart.
\nNow the Greek there for side <\/p>\n

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\ndeeply is it conveys like an
\nintense inward groaning like a <\/p>\n

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\nvisceral emotional response to
\nthe question. <\/p>\n

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\nNow pause for a moment is
\nconsider when’s the last time <\/p>\n

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\nyou sighed like that?
\nNow maybe, maybe it’s when <\/p>\n

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\nsomeone gave you some really,
\nreally difficult news on the <\/p>\n

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\nphone, maybe about someone that
\nyou love being being sick or <\/p>\n

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\nbeing taken to hospital.
\nOr maybe it’s it’s about a huge <\/p>\n

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\ndisappointment that you dealt
\nwith. <\/p>\n

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\nBut we all know what it’s like
\nto sigh very deeply be to be <\/p>\n

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\nfrustrated, to be agitated, to
\nbe almost at the breaking point.<\/p>\n

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\nAnd you can get a sense of the
\nLord Jesus Christ, his, his <\/p>\n

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\nemotions in this moment.
\nSo he’s so frustrated, I would <\/p>\n

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\nsuggest to you, because he is so
\ndeeply misunderstood. <\/p>\n

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\nSo then he boards a ship, having
\nsighed deeply in his spirit and <\/p>\n

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\ngiving them an answer about the
\nweather and saying you’re not <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to see any sign of the
\nsign of the prophet Jonah. <\/p>\n

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\nHe boards a ship.
\nAnd then when he’s on the ship, <\/p>\n

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\nguess what, He’s misunderstood
\nagain, right? <\/p>\n

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\nBecause we read having eyes see
\nye not having ears hear ye not. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd do you not remember that the
\ntext goes on to say in verse 21 <\/p>\n

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\nof Mark chapter 8, how is it
\nthat you don’t understand? <\/p>\n

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\nJesus says in verse 21, do you
\nget a sense of what I’m trying <\/p>\n

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\nto do is peel back a layer of
\ntext? <\/p>\n

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\nI want you to see if you
\nunderstand what the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nChrist is feeling and thinking
\nin this time. <\/p>\n

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\nI I want you to see, you need to
\nsee that he’s frustrated. <\/p>\n

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\nYou need to see that this is
\ndifficult for him. <\/p>\n

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\nCan you see that?
\nCan you, can you, can you <\/p>\n

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\npicture the Lord Jesus Christ in
\nthis moment? <\/p>\n

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\nIs are we getting the sense in
\nhis exasperation here where he’s<\/p>\n

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\nat?
\nAnd, and that leads us to our <\/p>\n

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\nfirst point is that Jesus feels
\nthe disappointment and pressure <\/p>\n

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\nof being misunderstood.
\nIt’s not until you realize that <\/p>\n

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\nthat what comes next is going to
\nbe meaningful to you until you <\/p>\n

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\nbring yourself into his position
\nof thought, until you can see <\/p>\n

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\nwhere he’s at, until you can
\nunderstand the tension of, of <\/p>\n

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\nhis moment, that you can’t
\nappreciate what comes after. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I just want you to start by
\nby putting yourself in that, in <\/p>\n

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\nthat position of of understand,
\nbecause Jesus is a man, <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand him as a man and the
\ndisappointment and pressure of <\/p>\n

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\nbeing consistently misunderstood
\nnow, but but that being true, <\/p>\n

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\nand I think it is true.
\nHere’s where things get a little<\/p>\n

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\nbit confusing.
\nAnd the confusing bit it is that<\/p>\n

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\nalthough he’s deeply
\nmisunderstood, he chooses not to<\/p>\n

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\nreveal himself either publicly
\nor privately. <\/p>\n

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\nIn fact, he will go out of his
\nway to stop people from <\/p>\n

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\nidentifying him for who he is.
\nLet me give you an example. <\/p>\n

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\nWhen Jesus gives miracles very
\noften after the even though the <\/p>\n

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\nmiracle, remember he had he
\nhealed the man who’s who’s deaf,<\/p>\n

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\nright?
\nWhat do you mean? <\/p>\n

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\nHe pulls him out of the crowd
\nand puts him aside and he he’s <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to heal the man’s blind
\nwith you. <\/p>\n

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\nHe takes him out of Beth Maceda
\nand takes him out and and just <\/p>\n

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\ndeals with them privately.
\nAnd often times when Jesus heals<\/p>\n

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\nsomeone, he’ll say things like
\nthis. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’ll say, see that thou say
\nnothing to any man or he’ll say <\/p>\n

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\nthings like he charged them that
\nthey should tell no man what was<\/p>\n

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\ndone.
\nDo you see that what we’re being<\/p>\n

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\ntold consistently in the Gospels
\nis that Jesus does not want <\/p>\n

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\nanyone to reveal who he is.
\nAnd remember when there’s like a<\/p>\n

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\nderanged and, and, and men that
\nare sick in the head and they <\/p>\n

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\nand they identify, they know who
\nJesus is. <\/p>\n

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\nHe says, I know who you are.
\nAnd Jesus commands the unclean <\/p>\n

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\nspirit that he would not reveal
\nwho he is. <\/p>\n

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\nI need you to see that all Joe,
\nJesus is deeply frustrated by by<\/p>\n

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\nby the faithlessness of men.
\nAnd he’s deeply frustrated by <\/p>\n

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\nhis cycle saying, how do you not
\nunderstand that he has been <\/p>\n

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\nconcealing who he is?
\nDo you appreciate that? <\/p>\n

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\nDid you ever notice that before?
\nNow? <\/p>\n

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\nDoes that feel like it’s a
\ncontradiction to you? <\/p>\n

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\nOn one side I’m deeply
\nfrustrated people don’t know who<\/p>\n

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\nI am.
\nOther side, I am very interested<\/p>\n

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\nin not revealing who I am.
\nHow could both those be true? <\/p>\n

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\nBut they are true.
\nIn fact, I can only find one <\/p>\n

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\nexample before this time where
\nJesus clearly identified who he <\/p>\n

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\nwas.
\nOne example and and he only does<\/p>\n

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\nit in a one-on-one setting.
\nNo one else was there. <\/p>\n

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\nYou does anyone know when that
\nis that Jesus clearly reveals <\/p>\n

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\nwho he is in one occasion on A1
\non one setting with no one else <\/p>\n

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\naround.
\nWhen is that right? <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s the woman.
\nIt’s a woman by the well in John<\/p>\n

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\n4.
\nThat’s it. <\/p>\n

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\nYou find me another instance
\nwhere he clearly I didn’t. <\/p>\n

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\nNow sometimes people say I know
\nwho you are or they’ll call him <\/p>\n

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\nthe son of David, but Jesus
\nnever says and I am the son of <\/p>\n

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\nDavid, except with the woman by
\nthe well and only then it was <\/p>\n

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\none-on-one with a gentile.
\nThat’s it. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s it.
\nNow the the people come up and <\/p>\n

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\nsay I know you are.
\nBut Andrew McGrath, Peter says <\/p>\n

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\nwe found the Messiah, but Jesus
\nwill never confirm it. <\/p>\n

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\nDo you see that?
\nDo you ever notice that before? <\/p>\n

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\nHe’ll do, He won’t confirm it
\nexcept with this woman. <\/p>\n

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\nNow that makes this woman in the
\nwell in John 4 an exceptional <\/p>\n

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\nand we’re not going to study it,
\nbut I want you when you go there<\/p>\n

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\nin the reading to go.
\nThat is an exceptional <\/p>\n

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\ncircumstance.
\nWhy is Jesus revealing to this <\/p>\n

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\nwoman who he is?
\nBecause he doesn’t do it <\/p>\n

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\nanywhere else.
\nOK, so this is our second point <\/p>\n

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\nthen Our second point is Jesus
\nintentionally chooses to conceal<\/p>\n

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\nhis true identity and mission.
\nOK, So and he doesn’t, he <\/p>\n

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\ndoesn’t just do it with the
\npublic. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s not telling his disciples
\nwho he is either because because<\/p>\n

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\nthe issue is in this chapter,
\nhe’ll, he’ll tell them, right? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s why it’s so shocking
\nto them at the end of the <\/p>\n

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\nchapter when he does tell them
\nwho he is and they’re going, no,<\/p>\n

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\nthey don’t want to hear it.
\nSo Jesus has withheld it from <\/p>\n

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\nthe public.
\nHe’s also withheld it from his <\/p>\n

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\ndisciples.
\nAnd I’m going to suggest to you <\/p>\n

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\nthat concealing who he was was
\nactually a greater temptation <\/p>\n

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\nthan you think it was.
\nHe did conceal who he was. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s the, the scriptures, the
\nGospels, it’s unambiguous. <\/p>\n

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\nHe concealed who he was.
\nI’m just suggesting to you that <\/p>\n

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\nthat was a temptation.
\nHow do we know it was a <\/p>\n

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\ntemptation?
\nHow we how do we know it was <\/p>\n

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\ndifficult for Jesus to conceal
\nwho he was because of the second<\/p>\n

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\ntemptation of Matthew chapter 4
\nverse 6, where it says if you <\/p>\n

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\nare the Son of God, right, which
\nis the question, who is he? <\/p>\n

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\nIf you are the Son of God, throw
\nyourself down. <\/p>\n

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\nNow if I’ve interpreted Brother
\nLane Rittmeyer correctly, he <\/p>\n

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\nthinks that the pinnacle of the
\ntemple was on the southwestern <\/p>\n

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\ncorner of the temple where they
\nwould blow the shofar every day,<\/p>\n

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\nwhich is why you can.
\nThis is Brother Rittmeyer’s <\/p>\n

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\ndrawing and that and that’s the
\nblowing of the of the shofar. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd from there down to the
\nstreet level is about 50 meters.<\/p>\n

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\nSo certainly if you threw
\nyourself off this and it’s a 50m<\/p>\n

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\ndrop, it would, it would be
\npretty clear through the, <\/p>\n

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\nthrough the spectacle of that
\nkind of miracle, who you were. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd, and we know that that Jesus
\nwas tempted to do it. <\/p>\n

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\nIf Jesus wasn’t tempted to do
\nit, this, this temptation had no<\/p>\n

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\npower with him.
\nBut every one of the temptations<\/p>\n

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\nin the wilderness had power with
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we’re only told about 3 then
\nthis in particular, he wanted <\/p>\n

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\npeople to know who he was.
\nSo now listen, this is even <\/p>\n

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\ngetting more confusing.
\nHe’s frustrated that people <\/p>\n

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\ndon’t know who he is.
\nHe he has intentionally <\/p>\n

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\nconcealed who he is and he’s
\ntempted. <\/p>\n

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\nHe has a great desire for people
\nto know who he is. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd of course, he responds in
\nthis instance by saying it is <\/p>\n

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\nwritten, do not put the Lord
\nyour God to the test. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s how he resists the
\ntemptation. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the implication of this is
\nwhat? <\/p>\n

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\nWhat’s the implication of do not
\nput the Lord your God to the <\/p>\n

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\ntest?
\nThe implication is I’m going to <\/p>\n

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\nput in God’s hands.
\nDo you see that? <\/p>\n

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\nHis response to this temptation
\nwas, I will put it in God’s <\/p>\n

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\nhands.
\nI will not put him to the test. <\/p>\n

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\nIt will be God’s decision when
\nHe reveals who I am to who He <\/p>\n

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\nwants to reveal it to.
\nI will not do it. <\/p>\n

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\nI will not put God to the test.
\nI will not reveal myself with <\/p>\n

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\nspiritual spectacle so that
\neveryone knows who I am. <\/p>\n

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\nAlthough I want people to know
\nwho I am, I’m desperate for <\/p>\n

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\npeople to know who I am.
\nIt’s a great temptation that <\/p>\n

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\npeople know who I am.
\nI’m not going to put the Lord <\/p>\n

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\nGod to the test.
\nOK, so, so point #3 then is <\/p>\n

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\nJesus wanted to be known and
\nthis was a real temptation for <\/p>\n

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\nhim.
\nSo I, I’m just kind of pointing <\/p>\n

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\nout some things that are all.
\nThe first three points should <\/p>\n

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\nall stand in contradiction to
\none another. <\/p>\n

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\nI hope you see that.
\nSo I only point these three <\/p>\n

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\nthings out, these
\ncontradictions, because Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nwas living in this
\ncontradiction. <\/p>\n

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\nSo that you understand the
\nsignificance of Matthew 16. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is this is the tension
\nthat’s in the air as he walks to<\/p>\n

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\nCaesarea Philippi, a place that
\nis pretty significant in itself.<\/p>\n

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\nAnd we’re going to touch on that
\na little bit in this class, but <\/p>\n

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\nmuch more in the next class.
\nSo Luke offers an important <\/p>\n

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\ndetail that shows the
\nsignificance of this moment. <\/p>\n

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\nNow.
\nNow what? <\/p>\n

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\nI’m going to show you a verse
\nthat’s one of the funniest <\/p>\n

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\nverses in the gospel, though
\nit’s not meant to be funny. <\/p>\n

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\nMaybe if you just have American
\nsense of humor, you find humor <\/p>\n

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\nin things that are not humorous,
\nlike Donald Trump, right? <\/p>\n

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\nSo you got to find humor in
\nthings that are not intended to <\/p>\n

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\nbe humorous, right?
\nAnd this is a verse that is not <\/p>\n

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\nintentionally humorous, but it’s
\na little bit funny. <\/p>\n

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\nSee you see, we’ve been focusing
\nin Matthew and Mark because they<\/p>\n

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\nhave the fullest description of
\nthis little section of the Lord <\/p>\n

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\nJesus Christ of life.
\nNow Luke mentions it very <\/p>\n

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\nbriefly, but Luke gives us a
\ndetail that neither Mark or <\/p>\n

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\nMatthew give us about this time
\nin Jesus life. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it’s this before Jesus
\nbegins this discussion with <\/p>\n

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\nPeter.
\nWhat’s he doing? <\/p>\n

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\nWell, Luke says now what
\nhappens? <\/p>\n

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\nAs he was praying alone, the
\ndisciples were with him and he <\/p>\n

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\nasked who do the crowd say that
\nI am? <\/p>\n

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\nSo what happens is just before
\nhe asked this question to his <\/p>\n

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\ndisciples, he’s praying now.
\nWhy is he praying? <\/p>\n

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\nBecause this moment’s a big one.
\nNow in Luke, you can go through <\/p>\n

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\nall the examples of prayer in
\nLuke. <\/p>\n

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\nEvery time Jesus is praying in
\nLuke, something important’s <\/p>\n

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\nabout to happen.
\nOK, so it shows the the <\/p>\n

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\nmagnitude that Jesus was a man
\nof prayer. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what does he use prayer do?
\nHe uses prayer to conform his <\/p>\n

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\nwill to his father’s God.
\nNot my will, but yours be done. <\/p>\n

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\nHe prays so that that God would
\nconform his will because he’s <\/p>\n

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\nabout to have a discussion which
\nhe knows is significant. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd of course, this discussion
\nover who he is is very, very <\/p>\n

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\ntempting for the Lord.
\nIt was one of his temptations in<\/p>\n

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\nthe wilderness.
\nHe knows this is a significant <\/p>\n

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\nmoment.
\nHe does not want to put his own <\/p>\n

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\nhumanness into the moment and
\noverride God’s will. <\/p>\n

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\nSo he’s praying for God to give
\nhim strength. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd, and, and what it says is
\nhe’s praying alone, but the <\/p>\n

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\ndisciples are with him.
\nNow. <\/p>\n

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\nNo one’s laughing.
\nThat’s OK. <\/p>\n

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\nNow you laugh.
\nThat was a bit of a courtesy <\/p>\n

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\nlaugh.
\nThat was so so ever ever been <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:05,800 –> 00:19:12,000
\nalone with people around you?
\nNow I don’t think that that is <\/p>\n

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\nthat’s he’s not saying that by
\nmistake. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean Luke, Luke’s not Luke’s
\nnot identifying a it is a <\/p>\n

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\ncontradiction.
\nI’m alone and people are with <\/p>\n

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\nme.
\nBut you have to understand that <\/p>\n

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\nthat is exactly Jesus in this
\nmoment. <\/p>\n

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\nYou see, Jesus feels very alone,
\nalthough people are around him. <\/p>\n

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\nDo you see that I’m just, I’m
\nbringing you into this moment <\/p>\n

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\nthat Jesus is in.
\nHow is he feeling? <\/p>\n

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\nHe sighs deeply within himself.
\nHe has been tempted. <\/p>\n

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\nPeople are.
\nHe’s misunderstood. <\/p>\n

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\nEverywhere he go he’s
\nmisunderstood. <\/p>\n

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\nHe desires to be known, but he
\nwill not reveal himself. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:50,880 –> 00:19:56,280
\nHe feels alone although people
\nare around him. <\/p>\n

323
\n00:19:58,800 –> 00:20:02,240
\nThat’s Jesus in this exact
\nmoment. <\/p>\n

324
\n00:20:03,200 –> 00:20:07,240
\nAnd that’s my 4th point.
\nJesus was surrounded, yet alone.<\/p>\n

325
\n00:20:09,560 –> 00:20:12,240
\nOK, this is his.
\nThis is Jesus in this moment. <\/p>\n

326
\n00:20:12,240 –> 00:20:17,400
\nHe’s surrounded, yet he’s alone.
\nAnd he’s using prayer to align. <\/p>\n

327
\n00:20:18,240 –> 00:20:22,200
\nHimself with God’s will, which
\nis what he does, he uses prayer <\/p>\n

328
\n00:20:22,360 –> 00:20:25,920
\nto take his own will and
\nsurrender it to God’s will that <\/p>\n

329
\n00:20:25,920 –> 00:20:29,520
\nGod would take this moment and
\nGod would make from this moment <\/p>\n

330
\n00:20:29,520 –> 00:20:34,640
\nwhat God wants him to do in that
\nin that moment because he felt <\/p>\n

331
\n00:20:34,640 –> 00:20:39,280
\nthe temptation and the struggle
\nwith with revealing his identity<\/p>\n

332
\n00:20:39,560 –> 00:20:42,880
\nto his disciples.
\nThis moment is huge for the Lord<\/p>\n

333
\n00:20:42,880 –> 00:20:51,960
\nJesus Christ.
\nSo now, after years of quiet <\/p>\n

334
\n00:20:51,960 –> 00:20:56,280
\nministry, miraculous acts,
\nmisunderstood teachings, and <\/p>\n

335
\n00:20:56,280 –> 00:20:59,920
\nmounting opposition, Jesus
\ninitiates the moment of truth. <\/p>\n

336
\n00:21:02,520 –> 00:21:07,960
\nAnd he says, Who do people say
\nthat the Son of Man is? <\/p>\n

337
\n00:21:10,480 –> 00:21:15,120
\nAnd they respond, well, some say
\nJohn the Baptist, others say <\/p>\n

338
\n00:21:15,120 –> 00:21:18,120
\nElijah, and still others
\nJeremiah or one of the prophets.<\/p>\n

339
\n00:21:18,120 –> 00:21:19,440
\nNow, what does that response
\nmean? <\/p>\n

340
\n00:21:21,280 –> 00:21:25,040
\nThat means to the common man.
\nTo the common man, Jesus is a <\/p>\n

341
\n00:21:25,040 –> 00:21:28,920
\nworker of miracles, like Elijah.
\nOr he’s one of the prophets <\/p>\n

342
\n00:21:29,040 –> 00:21:34,200
\ndeeply unpopular with political
\nreligious leaders, like Jeremiah<\/p>\n

343
\n00:21:34,200 –> 00:21:37,400
\nwas.
\nOr he’s a preacher of the <\/p>\n

344
\n00:21:37,400 –> 00:21:46,320
\nKingdom of God, like John was to
\nhis hometown in Matthew 1355. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:21:46,320 –> 00:21:50,040
\nHe’s a carpenter’s son.
\nBut one thing that seems to be <\/p>\n

346
\n00:21:50,040 –> 00:21:53,720
\ncommon about all these views
\nabout Jesus, whether Elias or <\/p>\n

347
\n00:21:53,720 –> 00:21:58,280
\nJeremias or one of the prophets,
\netcetera, is that he’s not the <\/p>\n

348
\n00:21:58,280 –> 00:22:02,960
\nMessiah.
\nEveryone seems to agree on that.<\/p>\n

349
\n00:22:02,960 –> 00:22:06,280
\nWhat he is, they don’t know, but
\nthey seem to know what he’s not.<\/p>\n

350
\n00:22:11,560 –> 00:22:18,480
\nSee, it’s so often that faith is
\nin contradiction to popular <\/p>\n

351
\n00:22:18,880 –> 00:22:22,240
\nknowledge.
\nBecause if you even think about <\/p>\n

352
\n00:22:22,240 –> 00:22:24,160
\nthis question, even on the
\nsimplest all of brothers and <\/p>\n

353
\n00:22:24,160 –> 00:22:29,360
\nsisters, you ask who do the
\npeople of our age say the Lord <\/p>\n

354
\n00:22:29,360 –> 00:22:31,880
\nJesus Christ is?
\nIf I ask these young people, if <\/p>\n

355
\n00:22:31,880 –> 00:22:34,920
\nI ask you the question who I
\nknow, you’re terrified I will <\/p>\n

356
\n00:22:34,920 –> 00:22:36,600
\nand I won’t, right?
\nRight. <\/p>\n

357
\n00:22:36,760 –> 00:22:38,600
\nI’m getting near to you and
\nyou’re getting a little bit <\/p>\n

358
\n00:22:38,600 –> 00:22:41,880
\nconcerned about that.
\nIf I ask you the question, who <\/p>\n

359
\n00:22:43,040 –> 00:22:45,440
\ndo people of our age say the
\nLord Jesus Christ is? <\/p>\n

360
\n00:22:45,440 –> 00:22:47,640
\nWell, I’m going to give you 4
\ncategories and there’s many <\/p>\n

361
\n00:22:47,640 –> 00:22:51,760
\nnuances of those categories.
\nWell, a Jew might say he’s a <\/p>\n

362
\n00:22:51,760 –> 00:22:53,240
\nconfused reformer.
\nI know this. <\/p>\n

363
\n00:22:53,240 –> 00:22:55,200
\nI’ve spoken to a Jews about
\nthis. <\/p>\n

364
\n00:22:55,720 –> 00:22:58,000
\nI’ve asked them who do you think
\nthe Lord Jesus Christ is not <\/p>\n

365
\n00:22:58,000 –> 00:23:00,080
\nexactly in those words and they
\nsaid he was. <\/p>\n

366
\n00:23:00,120 –> 00:23:03,440
\nHe was a reformer who is
\nconfused and misunderstood. <\/p>\n

367
\n00:23:04,840 –> 00:23:07,640
\nA reformer.
\nThat’s their view of Jesus. <\/p>\n

368
\n00:23:07,640 –> 00:23:11,560
\nAt least the the the ones I
\nspoke with because I lived in <\/p>\n

369
\n00:23:11,560 –> 00:23:13,800
\nIsrael when I was about your age
\nfor a year. <\/p>\n

370
\n00:23:15,440 –> 00:23:18,640
\nOK, if I’m an atheist, I think
\nhe’s a religious nut case, <\/p>\n

371
\n00:23:19,840 –> 00:23:22,320
\nright?
\nI know that that’s that’s <\/p>\n

372
\n00:23:22,360 –> 00:23:24,720
\nobviously a harsh way to think
\nabout the Lord Jesus Christ, but<\/p>\n

373
\n00:23:24,720 –> 00:23:27,720
\nI think that’s an accurate
\nversion of what many atheists <\/p>\n

374
\n00:23:27,720 –> 00:23:30,520
\nthink.
\nWell, what about an agnostic? <\/p>\n

375
\n00:23:30,520 –> 00:23:33,480
\nAn agnostic is someone who
\ndoesn’t know what they think <\/p>\n

376
\n00:23:33,560 –> 00:23:36,440
\nJesus is.
\nThey agnostic means without <\/p>\n

377
\n00:23:36,440 –> 00:23:39,640
\ngnosis, without knowledge.
\nI do not have knowledge. <\/p>\n

378
\n00:23:39,680 –> 00:23:43,200
\nI’m not sure.
\nWell, many of them think he’s a <\/p>\n

379
\n00:23:43,200 –> 00:23:46,480
\nman who tried to teach a deeply
\nflawed world to love. <\/p>\n

380
\n00:23:47,160 –> 00:23:48,520
\nThat’s what agnostic might
\nthink. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:23:48,600 –> 00:23:51,600
\nThey don’t look at Jesus and and
\nhave animosity towards him. <\/p>\n

382
\n00:23:51,600 –> 00:23:55,240
\nOften they can they can see that
\nhe tried to teach the world to <\/p>\n

383
\n00:23:55,240 –> 00:23:58,640
\nbe loving, but that the world
\ndidn’t want that. <\/p>\n

384
\n00:24:00,000 –> 00:24:04,560
\nAnd and of course we have beyond
\nthose views. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:24:04,560 –> 00:24:07,120
\nWe have the views of most
\nChristians and most Christians <\/p>\n

386
\n00:24:07,120 –> 00:24:10,280
\nthink he’s God himself, Co equal
\nwith his Father in heaven. <\/p>\n

387
\n00:24:11,760 –> 00:24:15,440
\nAnd, and what I want to suggest
\nto you and observe this point is<\/p>\n

388
\n00:24:15,440 –> 00:24:19,240
\nthat in Jesus day the common man
\ndid not know who he was. <\/p>\n

389
\n00:24:19,800 –> 00:24:23,760
\nThey had an opinion.
\nHe was well known and they <\/p>\n

390
\n00:24:23,760 –> 00:24:27,040
\nthought they knew him.
\nThey labeled him, but they were <\/p>\n

391
\n00:24:27,040 –> 00:24:30,800
\nwrong.
\nEach one of the solutions of who<\/p>\n

392
\n00:24:30,880 –> 00:24:36,000
\nJesus was in his own day were
\nwrong, but Jesus did not correct<\/p>\n

393
\n00:24:36,000 –> 00:24:41,120
\ntheir misunderstanding.
\nWe have no record that there’s <\/p>\n

394
\n00:24:41,120 –> 00:24:43,240
\nno one that comes to Jesus and
\nsays I think you’re this. <\/p>\n

395
\n00:24:43,240 –> 00:24:45,800
\nAnd Jesus says no, you’re wrong.
\nLet me tell you exactly who I <\/p>\n

396
\n00:24:45,800 –> 00:24:47,560
\nam.
\nHe doesn’t do that. <\/p>\n

397
\n00:24:48,080 –> 00:24:52,840
\nAnd I would just say that in our
\nage, Jesus is deeply <\/p>\n

398
\n00:24:52,840 –> 00:24:57,920
\nmisunderstood still.
\nDo you see that? <\/p>\n

399
\n00:24:59,280 –> 00:25:04,440
\nDo you see that, young people?
\nHe is still misunderstood. <\/p>\n

400
\n00:25:04,440 –> 00:25:13,240
\nDo you see the irony of this?
\nWho knows who this man is? <\/p>\n

401
\n00:25:17,640 –> 00:25:25,560
\nSo few know who this man is.
\nEveryone thinks they know him, <\/p>\n

402
\n00:25:28,440 –> 00:25:34,640
\nbut so few know him.
\nSo he pivots to his disciples, <\/p>\n

403
\n00:25:34,640 –> 00:25:36,760
\nright?
\nThis deeply, deeply <\/p>\n

404
\n00:25:36,760 –> 00:25:42,920
\nmisunderstood man who is
\nfrustrated, who’s surrendered <\/p>\n

405
\n00:25:42,920 –> 00:25:48,600
\nhimself in prayer and asked God
\nto guide this very difficult <\/p>\n

406
\n00:25:48,600 –> 00:25:53,720
\ndiscussion for him.
\nHe pivots to his disciples and <\/p>\n

407
\n00:25:53,720 –> 00:25:57,560
\nhe says to them, but who do you
\nsay that I am? <\/p>\n

408
\n00:26:01,280 –> 00:26:05,640
\nAnd if I pause and I ask you the
\nquestion, who do you say that <\/p>\n

409
\n00:26:05,640 –> 00:26:12,200
\nJesus is?
\nDo do you see that there’s a <\/p>\n

410
\n00:26:13,360 –> 00:26:15,360
\nconfronting power in that
\ndiscussion? <\/p>\n

411
\n00:26:15,440 –> 00:26:19,080
\nIf I go to you and I say, who is
\nJesus Christ? <\/p>\n

412
\n00:26:22,600 –> 00:26:29,120
\nThere’s power in that question.
\nI dare say that at a baptismal <\/p>\n

413
\n00:26:29,120 –> 00:26:33,280
\ninterview, whatever technical
\nquestions we’re asking you, on <\/p>\n

414
\n00:26:33,280 –> 00:26:37,320
\nsome level we are going to be
\nasking you, who do you think <\/p>\n

415
\n00:26:37,320 –> 00:26:44,320
\nthis man is?
\nYou know, everyone in the world <\/p>\n

416
\n00:26:44,320 –> 00:26:46,800
\nhas to answer that question.
\nNo one can seem to get away from<\/p>\n

417
\n00:26:46,800 –> 00:26:48,280
\nit.
\nNo matter who you are in the <\/p>\n

418
\n00:26:48,280 –> 00:26:52,640
\nworld, you’ve heard of this man.
\nAnd at some level you have to <\/p>\n

419
\n00:26:52,640 –> 00:26:56,440
\ndecide in your heart you can’t.
\nIt’s it’s like an unavoidable <\/p>\n

420
\n00:26:56,440 –> 00:26:58,520
\nquestion.
\nHow do you avoid this question? <\/p>\n

421
\n00:27:00,200 –> 00:27:11,170
\nWho is this man?
\nWho is the Lord Jesus Christ and<\/p>\n

422
\n00:27:11,170 –> 00:27:15,330
\nwhat people in his own time
\nwanted is some sort of halfway <\/p>\n

423
\n00:27:15,330 –> 00:27:18,730
\nhouse.
\nHere’s the halfway house Jesus, <\/p>\n

424
\n00:27:19,010 –> 00:27:22,480
\nclearly important.
\nHe’s a miracle worker. <\/p>\n

425
\n00:27:23,040 –> 00:27:28,480
\nHe’s a prophet like John or, or,
\nor, you know, maybe he’s even <\/p>\n

426
\n00:27:28,480 –> 00:27:39,960
\ncome back from the dead like the
\nJohn the Baptist resurrected <\/p>\n

427
\n00:27:39,960 –> 00:27:41,880
\nfrom the dead.
\nMaybe he maybe that’s who he is.<\/p>\n

428
\n00:27:44,560 –> 00:27:46,960
\nBut the thing about the Lord
\nJesus Christ is this. <\/p>\n

429
\n00:27:51,560 –> 00:27:55,480
\nHe is either either he’s
\neverything or he’s nothing. <\/p>\n

430
\n00:27:58,280 –> 00:28:05,280
\nThe thing is, he is either a
\nsavior or he is a man that needs<\/p>\n

431
\n00:28:05,280 –> 00:28:06,960
\nto be saved.
\nNow I’m not talking about <\/p>\n

432
\n00:28:07,280 –> 00:28:08,960
\ncomplicated ideas of the
\natonement. <\/p>\n

433
\n00:28:08,960 –> 00:28:10,920
\nI know the Lord Jesus Christ
\nneed to be saved. <\/p>\n

434
\n00:28:11,200 –> 00:28:18,360
\nBut what I’m saying is this, He
\nis either a savior or he needs <\/p>\n

435
\n00:28:18,360 –> 00:28:21,440
\nto be saved.
\nHe’s one or the other. <\/p>\n

436
\n00:28:23,640 –> 00:28:27,360
\nJohn need to be saved.
\nJeremiah need to be saved. <\/p>\n

437
\n00:28:28,120 –> 00:28:34,720
\nElijah need to be saved.
\nThe thing is what people want in<\/p>\n

438
\n00:28:34,720 –> 00:28:37,520
\nyoung people, I reckon to say
\nthat when I was your age, what I<\/p>\n

439
\n00:28:37,520 –> 00:28:40,000
\nwanted was this.
\nWhat I wanted was a halfway <\/p>\n

440
\n00:28:40,000 –> 00:28:42,840
\nhouse.
\nDo you understand what I mean by<\/p>\n

441
\n00:28:42,840 –> 00:28:46,720
\nhalfway house?
\nJesus is really important, but <\/p>\n

442
\n00:28:46,720 –> 00:28:50,680
\nHe’s not everything.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

443
\n00:28:51,800 –> 00:28:53,320
\nWhat’s the implication of His
\neverything? <\/p>\n

444
\n00:28:57,000 –> 00:28:58,440
\nThen I better do something about
\nthat. <\/p>\n

445
\n00:29:01,400 –> 00:29:04,160
\nDon’t you see that that’s, can
\nyou see that in your heart? <\/p>\n

446
\n00:29:04,840 –> 00:29:06,840
\nCan you see that you want Him to
\nbe something? <\/p>\n

447
\n00:29:06,920 –> 00:29:10,400
\nYou would definitely say He’s
\nnot nothing, He’s something, but<\/p>\n

448
\n00:29:10,400 –> 00:29:17,800
\nis he everything?
\nDo you see the power of this <\/p>\n

449
\n00:29:17,800 –> 00:29:19,600
\nquestion?
\nIf I was to ask you who is the <\/p>\n

450
\n00:29:19,600 –> 00:29:27,040
\nLord Jesus Christ, does your
\nheart give you a halfway house <\/p>\n

451
\n00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:32,760
\nanswer?
\nDon’t condemn yourself if it <\/p>\n

452
\n00:29:32,760 –> 00:29:34,400
\ndoes.
\nWe all have to be. <\/p>\n

453
\n00:29:34,640 –> 00:29:36,320
\nWe have to all growing up into
\nthis thing. <\/p>\n

454
\n00:29:37,160 –> 00:29:39,800
\nI’m just identifying that when I
\nwas your age I had a halfway <\/p>\n

455
\n00:29:39,800 –> 00:29:42,920
\nhouse answer.
\nHe was important, He just wasn’t<\/p>\n

456
\n00:29:42,920 –> 00:29:46,360
\neverything.
\nAnd that’s what the people of <\/p>\n

457
\n00:29:46,360 –> 00:29:48,800
\nhis own day wanted him to be.
\nHe was important, he was a <\/p>\n

458
\n00:29:48,800 –> 00:29:52,000
\nprophet.
\nGod’s with him, but he’s not <\/p>\n

459
\n00:29:52,000 –> 00:29:55,680
\neverything.
\nHe’s not the Savior. <\/p>\n

460
\n00:30:01,520 –> 00:30:05,880
\nSo our point #5 is this.
\nPeople think they know who Jesus<\/p>\n

461
\n00:30:05,880 –> 00:30:11,200
\nis, but do not really.
\nWho Jesus is is the pivotal <\/p>\n

462
\n00:30:11,200 –> 00:30:20,880
\nquestion even today.
\nAnd at that moment in Jesus <\/p>\n

463
\n00:30:20,880 –> 00:30:23,000
\nministry.
\nWho knew who he was? <\/p>\n

464
\n00:30:24,800 –> 00:30:28,960
\nWho will step forward?
\nWas he alone? <\/p>\n

465
\n00:30:31,960 –> 00:30:36,760
\nAnd Peter does step forward and
\nPeter says you are the Christ, <\/p>\n

466
\n00:30:38,440 –> 00:30:43,280
\nthe Son of the living God.
\nAnd there it was. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:30:44,800 –> 00:30:49,400
\nFaith.
\nDo you believe what Peter said <\/p>\n

468
\n00:30:49,400 –> 00:30:53,400
\nthere is true?
\nOf course you do. <\/p>\n

469
\n00:30:55,320 –> 00:30:58,240
\nI would just suggest that that
\nputs you, if you do, in pretty <\/p>\n

470
\n00:30:58,240 –> 00:31:01,560
\nrare company.
\nBecause this statement brings <\/p>\n

471
\n00:31:01,560 –> 00:31:05,520
\ntogether 3 ideas that are very
\nrarely believed in combination. <\/p>\n

472
\n00:31:08,240 –> 00:31:13,960
\nThose three ideas are this Jesus
\nis the Jewish Messiah, anointed <\/p>\n

473
\n00:31:13,960 –> 00:31:16,280
\nto save his people, because
\nthat’s what Christos means. <\/p>\n

474
\n00:31:17,920 –> 00:31:27,000
\nSecondly, there is a living God,
\nand Jesus is his Son and thus <\/p>\n

475
\n00:31:27,000 –> 00:31:31,200
\nsubordinate to him.
\nTell me who believed that today <\/p>\n

476
\n00:31:32,880 –> 00:31:34,800
\nout of the billions of people on
\nthis planet? <\/p>\n

477
\n00:31:39,320 –> 00:31:44,200
\nBut you believe it.
\nSee what a statement that is? <\/p>\n

478
\n00:31:46,000 –> 00:31:47,480
\nAnd that brings us to our sixth
\npoint. <\/p>\n

479
\n00:31:48,600 –> 00:31:53,240
\nEven to this day, very few know
\nand believe who Jesus really is.<\/p>\n

480
\n00:31:55,440 –> 00:31:59,320
\nAnd if you think you know who He
\nis, it’s a privilege because <\/p>\n

481
\n00:31:59,320 –> 00:32:04,480
\nthere are very few, and it’s
\nvery easy to take that for <\/p>\n

482
\n00:32:04,480 –> 00:32:08,960
\ngranted.
\nHere’s another question that <\/p>\n

483
\n00:32:08,960 –> 00:32:11,640
\nseems obvious on the surface,
\nbut there might be more to it. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:32:12,440 –> 00:32:18,560
\nWho’s the living God?
\nYou know why they called <\/p>\n

485
\n00:32:18,600 –> 00:32:23,960
\nCaesarea Popi Caesarea?
\nBecause it was a city that had <\/p>\n

486
\n00:32:23,960 –> 00:32:26,200
\nbeen dedicated to a Roman
\nemperor. <\/p>\n

487
\n00:32:26,600 –> 00:32:28,200
\nYou would have heard of him
\ncalled Augustus. <\/p>\n

488
\n00:32:28,920 –> 00:32:34,280
\nNow, this is a representation of
\nAugustus’s temple that was built<\/p>\n

489
\n00:32:34,280 –> 00:32:36,520
\nin Caesarea Philippi.
\nIt’s very difficult to know <\/p>\n

490
\n00:32:36,520 –> 00:32:39,440
\nexactly how it looked, but they
\nreckon that this is probably how<\/p>\n

491
\n00:32:39,440 –> 00:32:43,600
\nthe temple of Augustus and
\nCaesarea Philippi looked right <\/p>\n

492
\n00:32:44,960 –> 00:32:49,600
\nthere It is.
\nOK, that was a temple to <\/p>\n

493
\n00:32:49,600 –> 00:32:56,600
\nAugustus erected in that city
\naround the year 19 BCE by Herod <\/p>\n

494
\n00:32:56,600 –> 00:33:00,680
\nthe Great.
\nSo in fact, I’m going to give <\/p>\n

495
\n00:33:00,680 –> 00:33:02,480
\nyou a picture of Caesarea
\nPhilippi. <\/p>\n

496
\n00:33:02,480 –> 00:33:04,360
\nThis is a great picture.
\nYou can find it on the Internet <\/p>\n

497
\n00:33:04,360 –> 00:33:08,920
\nif you want to find it yourself,
\nand it really gives you insight <\/p>\n

498
\n00:33:09,200 –> 00:33:13,120
\nabout this area of the world.
\nThis is Caesarea Philippi, <\/p>\n

499
\n00:33:13,360 –> 00:33:15,280
\nduring the time of the Lord
\nJesus Christ. <\/p>\n

500
\n00:33:17,000 –> 00:33:20,480
\nAnd what you can see there is
\nthat’s the temple to Augustus. <\/p>\n

501
\n00:33:22,480 –> 00:33:29,080
\nThat’s the temple of Zeus.
\nThat’s the grotto of Pan and the<\/p>\n

502
\n00:33:29,080 –> 00:33:32,240
\ncourt of Pan.
\nAnd before they called Caesarea <\/p>\n

503
\n00:33:32,240 –> 00:33:35,400
\nPhilippi.
\nCaesarea Philippi, its name was <\/p>\n

504
\n00:33:35,720 –> 00:33:39,640
\nPannoneus.
\nNow it was named after Pan <\/p>\n

505
\n00:33:39,720 –> 00:33:43,160
\nbecause Pan was a God of
\nsensuality. <\/p>\n

506
\n00:33:44,600 –> 00:33:48,560
\nIt was a God of human or
\nanimalistic instincts. <\/p>\n

507
\n00:33:49,160 –> 00:33:53,280
\nFor example, you might have
\nheard the word panic, right? <\/p>\n

508
\n00:33:53,360 –> 00:33:56,480
\nWhat’s panic?
\nIt’s when your feelings inside <\/p>\n

509
\n00:33:56,640 –> 00:34:00,000
\nare so overwhelming that they’re
\ncausing you to act in crazy <\/p>\n

510
\n00:34:00,000 –> 00:34:02,320
\nways.
\nThat’s named after the God Pan. <\/p>\n

511
\n00:34:03,120 –> 00:34:06,640
\nOr how about pandemonium?
\nThat’s when whole crowds of <\/p>\n

512
\n00:34:06,640 –> 00:34:08,600
\npeople are feeling that way,
\nright? <\/p>\n

513
\n00:34:08,719 –> 00:34:11,800
\nAnd what’s what’s common in
\nthese words is that you are <\/p>\n

514
\n00:34:11,800 –> 00:34:15,159
\nfeeling your human instincts
\ntotally overwhelm you. <\/p>\n

515
\n00:34:17,199 –> 00:34:21,960
\nSo what is Pan, right?
\nPan is a God of sensuality. <\/p>\n

516
\n00:34:22,560 –> 00:34:28,880
\nPan is a God of, of natural
\nfeelings, of, of raw senses. <\/p>\n

517
\n00:34:31,800 –> 00:34:35,880
\nAnd there’s something common
\nabout Pan and Matt Augustus and <\/p>\n

518
\n00:34:35,880 –> 00:34:38,560
\nabout Zeus.
\nAnd do you know what the common <\/p>\n

519
\n00:34:38,560 –> 00:34:43,480
\nthing is with all of them?
\nThey were dead. <\/p>\n

520
\n00:34:46,920 –> 00:34:56,880
\nAugustus was dead, Pan never
\nlived, neither did Zeus, neither<\/p>\n

521
\n00:34:56,880 –> 00:34:59,680
\nwould they have any life.
\nAnd this is a, this is so, this <\/p>\n

522
\n00:34:59,680 –> 00:35:03,000
\nis so worth unpacking.
\nThere’s so many, there’s so many<\/p>\n

523
\n00:35:03,200 –> 00:35:04,920
\ninsights here into Caesarea
\nPhilippi. <\/p>\n

524
\n00:35:05,120 –> 00:35:07,960
\nI’m going to save that to the
\nnext study because I have a lot <\/p>\n

525
\n00:35:07,960 –> 00:35:10,680
\nmore to say about that.
\nBut for the moment, I just want <\/p>\n

526
\n00:35:10,680 –> 00:35:14,480
\nto point out Caesarea Philippi
\nwas a very significant place to <\/p>\n

527
\n00:35:14,480 –> 00:35:19,320
\nacknowledge that Jesus was the
\nson of the living God because <\/p>\n

528
\n00:35:19,320 –> 00:35:23,000
\nthere’s a lot of contrasting
\nideas about what that was in <\/p>\n

529
\n00:35:23,000 –> 00:35:29,840
\nthat place.
\nBut God lives, Jesus is his son,<\/p>\n

530
\n00:35:29,840 –> 00:35:32,760
\nand his Son is the Messiah.
\nNow, how did Peter know? <\/p>\n

531
\n00:35:35,480 –> 00:35:36,680
\nMaybe you think that’s a silly
\nquestion. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:35:36,680 –> 00:35:38,360
\nHow did Peter know?
\nWell, how did Peter know? <\/p>\n

533
\n00:35:38,560 –> 00:35:41,320
\nHow did Peter know that Jesus
\nwas the son of the living God? <\/p>\n

534
\n00:35:45,680 –> 00:35:50,320
\nDid Jesus tell him you think
\nJesus told him you’d find me the<\/p>\n

535
\n00:35:50,320 –> 00:35:53,280
\npassage where did Jesus tell him
\nthat he was the son of the <\/p>\n

536
\n00:35:53,280 –> 00:35:57,120
\nliving God?
\nAndrew thought it grab Peter <\/p>\n

537
\n00:35:57,360 –> 00:36:03,640
\nJohn one, but where did what did
\nJesus tell him and I think <\/p>\n

538
\n00:36:03,640 –> 00:36:05,760
\nthat’s the exact point because
\nthat’s the only way to <\/p>\n

539
\n00:36:05,760 –> 00:36:09,280
\nunderstand this next verse
\nMatthew chapter 16 verse 17, <\/p>\n

540
\n00:36:09,560 –> 00:36:15,840
\nwhich says blessed are you Simon
\nBarjona for flesh and blood has <\/p>\n

541
\n00:36:15,840 –> 00:36:20,440
\nnot revealed this to you.
\nBut my father, which is in <\/p>\n

542
\n00:36:20,440 –> 00:36:22,800
\nheaven.
\nWhat does he mean that flesh and<\/p>\n

543
\n00:36:22,800 –> 00:36:25,360
\nblood has not revealed this to
\nhim. <\/p>\n

544
\n00:36:25,800 –> 00:36:30,120
\nSimply this Peter did not reach
\nthe conclusion because Jesus <\/p>\n

545
\n00:36:30,120 –> 00:36:33,720
\ntalked him into it in any human
\nway. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:36:35,200 –> 00:36:39,800
\nThat’s what Jesus saying my
\nflesh and blood because I Jesus <\/p>\n

547
\n00:36:39,800 –> 00:36:41,640
\nwanted to be known.
\nThat was the second temptation <\/p>\n

548
\n00:36:41,640 –> 00:36:43,520
\nin the orderness he wanted to be
\nknown. <\/p>\n

549
\n00:36:45,040 –> 00:36:47,920
\nJesus is saying I did not talk
\nyou into this. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:36:48,640 –> 00:36:54,960
\nMy flesh and blood did not
\nreveal this to you, but God did.<\/p>\n

551
\n00:36:55,920 –> 00:36:58,000
\nGod revealed it.
\nFlesh and blood just simply <\/p>\n

552
\n00:36:58,000 –> 00:37:01,280
\nrepresent the way that people
\ncome to conclusions through <\/p>\n

553
\n00:37:01,280 –> 00:37:06,120
\nnatural means, through logic,
\nthrough cultural expectations, <\/p>\n

554
\n00:37:06,120 –> 00:37:08,680
\nthrough personal experience.
\nNone of those was enough. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:37:09,080 –> 00:37:13,200
\nYou could not understand who
\nJesus was simply by human logic.<\/p>\n

556
\n00:37:16,360 –> 00:37:21,080
\nJesus did not coerce belief.
\nHe did not manipulate belief. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:37:21,640 –> 00:37:25,440
\nHe did not need Peter to affirm
\nhis identity to validate his <\/p>\n

558
\n00:37:25,440 –> 00:37:28,400
\nego.
\nIf you read the Gospel of John, <\/p>\n

559
\n00:37:28,400 –> 00:37:30,800
\nyou know one thing for certain.
\nJesus knew who he was. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:37:34,200 –> 00:37:37,960
\nInstead, what Jesus does is he
\nwaits for his Father to reveal <\/p>\n

561
\n00:37:37,960 –> 00:37:41,080
\nit.
\nAnd this is what gives Jesus so <\/p>\n

562
\n00:37:41,080 –> 00:37:44,160
\nmuch joy that finally someone
\nsees. <\/p>\n

563
\n00:37:44,320 –> 00:37:48,440
\nNot because Jesus coerced it,
\nnot because Jesus manipulated <\/p>\n

564
\n00:37:48,440 –> 00:37:52,600
\nit, not because Jesus flesh and
\nblood demanded it, because God <\/p>\n

565
\n00:37:52,600 –> 00:37:57,960
\nrevealed it in his own time.
\nSo our next point is simply <\/p>\n

566
\n00:37:57,960 –> 00:38:00,560
\nthis.
\nJesus waited on God to reveal <\/p>\n

567
\n00:38:00,560 –> 00:38:04,280
\nwho he was in God’s time and
\ndoing that he denied his own <\/p>\n

568
\n00:38:04,280 –> 00:38:10,120
\ndesires.
\nAnd I reflected on this a little<\/p>\n

569
\n00:38:10,120 –> 00:38:13,920
\nbit because when I’m teaching
\nfirst principles to young people<\/p>\n

570
\n00:38:14,600 –> 00:38:18,520
\nin Christchurch and other
\nplaces, and I, and I’m trying to<\/p>\n

571
\n00:38:18,520 –> 00:38:20,920
\nteach you, Jesus is, I don’t do
\nit this way. <\/p>\n

572
\n00:38:21,360 –> 00:38:23,080
\nI do it with flesh and blood,
\nright? <\/p>\n

573
\n00:38:23,400 –> 00:38:27,800
\nI, I, I give them the answer,
\nyou know, and then I say, and <\/p>\n

574
\n00:38:27,880 –> 00:38:29,760
\nyou never give someone an
\nanswer, then ask the question <\/p>\n

575
\n00:38:29,760 –> 00:38:31,600
\nand just want them to repeat
\nback to you what you said, <\/p>\n

576
\n00:38:31,640 –> 00:38:33,240
\nright?
\nAnd if they do, you give them a <\/p>\n

577
\n00:38:33,240 –> 00:38:36,920
\nlolly.
\nThat’s a little bit how I try to<\/p>\n

578
\n00:38:36,920 –> 00:38:39,160
\nteach people who Jesus is,
\nright? <\/p>\n

579
\n00:38:39,520 –> 00:38:44,320
\nI mean, what if I did something
\non the lines of here, You read <\/p>\n

580
\n00:38:44,320 –> 00:38:47,960
\nthe Gospel of Matthew and then
\ncome back to me and tell me who <\/p>\n

581
\n00:38:47,960 –> 00:38:56,400
\nyou think Jesus is.
\nBecause on some level, you don’t<\/p>\n

582
\n00:38:56,400 –> 00:39:01,240
\nget to have a faith that you get
\nto keep because someone else <\/p>\n

583
\n00:39:01,240 –> 00:39:05,600
\ngave it to you.
\nMaybe that’s going to work for a<\/p>\n

584
\n00:39:05,600 –> 00:39:08,600
\nlittle bit of time, but that’s
\nnever going to survive trial. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:39:09,760 –> 00:39:11,800
\nAnd people in this room know
\nwhat trial is about. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:39:13,000 –> 00:39:15,640
\nThey’ve been through trials.
\nSome of you have been through <\/p>\n

587
\n00:39:15,800 –> 00:39:18,480
\nhorrific trials, much more
\ndifficult than I’ve experienced <\/p>\n

588
\n00:39:18,480 –> 00:39:20,560
\nmyself, and I’ve had my fair
\nshare of trials. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:39:21,920 –> 00:39:24,960
\nYou do not get to keep your
\nfaith because someone else’s <\/p>\n

590
\n00:39:24,960 –> 00:39:30,200
\nflesh and blood gave it to you.
\nYou only get to keep your faith <\/p>\n

591
\n00:39:30,720 –> 00:39:34,440
\nbecause it’s yours.
\nAnd if it’s yours, it’s yours <\/p>\n

592
\n00:39:34,440 –> 00:39:39,080
\nbecause it’s been revealed to
\nyou by God, not because someone <\/p>\n

593
\n00:39:39,080 –> 00:39:42,400
\ncoerced you, not because someone
\nmanipulated you, because it <\/p>\n

594
\n00:39:42,400 –> 00:39:48,040
\nbecomes your own.
\nAnd the word revealed itself is <\/p>\n

595
\n00:39:48,040 –> 00:39:50,640
\nmade-up of of 2 words.
\nAnd I think you know these <\/p>\n

596
\n00:39:50,640 –> 00:39:54,600
\nwords.
\nApocalypto Apocalypse. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:39:56,960 –> 00:40:00,000
\nJesus saying flesh and blood is
\nnot apocalypsed. <\/p>\n

598
\n00:40:00,240 –> 00:40:02,640
\nThis to you has not revealed.
\nYou probably know the word <\/p>\n

599
\n00:40:02,640 –> 00:40:05,560
\napocalypse by it’s more common
\nEnglish translation of <\/p>\n

600
\n00:40:05,560 –> 00:40:09,120
\nRevelation, right?
\nAnd what does Revelation really <\/p>\n

601
\n00:40:09,160 –> 00:40:11,800
\nmean?
\nWell, oppo means away and <\/p>\n

602
\n00:40:11,800 –> 00:40:15,800
\ncalypto means to cover or to
\nveil or to conceal, right? <\/p>\n

603
\n00:40:16,120 –> 00:40:21,040
\nSo it’s taking away something
\nthat’s covered or veiled or <\/p>\n

604
\n00:40:21,160 –> 00:40:25,720
\nconcealed.
\nOK. <\/p>\n

605
\n00:40:26,720 –> 00:40:30,760
\nThe verb for learning by
\ninstruction in Greek is <\/p>\n

606
\n00:40:31,160 –> 00:40:34,480
\nmanthano.
\nSo if I learn by instruction, <\/p>\n

607
\n00:40:34,480 –> 00:40:37,480
\nwhich is kind of what we do
\nmainly in classrooms, we learn <\/p>\n

608
\n00:40:37,480 –> 00:40:39,600
\nby instruction.
\nThat’s not this word revealed. <\/p>\n

609
\n00:40:41,160 –> 00:40:45,560
\nOr if I discover something by
\nreason, that’s conosco in Greek.<\/p>\n

610
\n00:40:46,600 –> 00:40:51,800
\nAnd if I’m taught something with
\nfacts, that’s Didasco in Greek. <\/p>\n

611
\n00:40:51,800 –> 00:40:55,840
\nNow there’s lots of room for
\nMontano or Gnosco or Didasco. <\/p>\n

612
\n00:40:55,960 –> 00:40:57,520
\nThose are the ways that we
\nteach. <\/p>\n

613
\n00:40:58,120 –> 00:41:01,080
\nWe bring kids into Sunday school
\nand we Didasco them and we <\/p>\n

614
\n00:41:01,080 –> 00:41:03,400
\nGnosco them and we Montano them,
\nright? <\/p>\n

615
\n00:41:03,600 –> 00:41:07,080
\nAnd, and that’s what we do.
\nAnd all those things have value,<\/p>\n

616
\n00:41:07,080 –> 00:41:10,640
\nand they’re actually used in
\npositive ways in scripture and <\/p>\n

617
\n00:41:10,640 –> 00:41:14,040
\nin negative ways.
\nBut apocalypse does not mean <\/p>\n

618
\n00:41:14,040 –> 00:41:17,320
\nthose things.
\nApocalypse is something that <\/p>\n

619
\n00:41:17,320 –> 00:41:19,440
\ncannot be perceived with human
\neffort. <\/p>\n

620
\n00:41:20,680 –> 00:41:25,320
\nGod has to act to reveal it.
\nIn other words, Peter didn’t <\/p>\n

621
\n00:41:25,320 –> 00:41:28,680
\nreason his way into
\nunderstanding who Jesus is. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:41:29,880 –> 00:41:32,480
\nWhat this word implies is that
\nGod pushed back the veil. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:41:36,160 –> 00:41:39,720
\nOK, now if I look at this word
\nveil, this version of it, I can <\/p>\n

624
\n00:41:39,720 –> 00:41:41,480
\nfind out another place of the
\nNew Testament. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:41:41,480 –> 00:41:44,000
\nOne of them is in First
\nCorinthians chapter 2 verses 9 <\/p>\n

626
\n00:41:44,000 –> 00:41:48,680
\nand 10 where it says,
\ninterestingly, eye has not seen <\/p>\n

627
\n00:41:50,400 –> 00:41:53,720
\nnor ear hurt.
\nYou see, our eyes are going to <\/p>\n

628
\n00:41:53,720 –> 00:41:54,400
\nlet us down.
\nWe’ve been. <\/p>\n

629
\n00:41:54,400 –> 00:41:57,720
\nThat’s what we covered in our
\nlast subject and our ears are <\/p>\n

630
\n00:41:57,720 –> 00:42:02,360
\ngoing to let us down.
\nThe things which God has <\/p>\n

631
\n00:42:02,360 –> 00:42:05,560
\nprepared for them that love him,
\nbut God has revealed it. <\/p>\n

632
\n00:42:06,360 –> 00:42:09,760
\nThey revealed them unto us by
\nspirit. <\/p>\n

633
\n00:42:12,040 –> 00:42:17,960
\nSo spiritual truth is not
\ninaccessible, Brothers, sisters,<\/p>\n

634
\n00:42:17,960 –> 00:42:19,680
\nand young people.
\nIt’s not inaccessible because <\/p>\n

635
\n00:42:19,680 –> 00:42:23,840
\nit’s complicated.
\nIt’s just that there’s veils <\/p>\n

636
\n00:42:23,840 –> 00:42:29,680
\nover your eyes.
\nSee, the Greeks wanted wisdom, <\/p>\n

637
\n00:42:31,400 –> 00:42:33,640
\nand the wisdom veiled their
\neyes. <\/p>\n

638
\n00:42:35,400 –> 00:42:39,960
\nThe Jews wanted signs, and the
\nsigns veiled their ability to <\/p>\n

639
\n00:42:39,960 –> 00:42:42,320
\nsee the truth.
\nIn front of them, there’s a <\/p>\n

640
\n00:42:42,320 –> 00:42:46,280
\nveil.
\nAnd when you talk to someone <\/p>\n

641
\n00:42:46,280 –> 00:42:49,240
\nabout the truth and, and I’m
\nsure a lot of you had <\/p>\n

642
\n00:42:49,240 –> 00:42:51,760
\nexperiences of talking to people
\nabout the truth, people that <\/p>\n

643
\n00:42:52,160 –> 00:42:54,240
\nwhen they have a different faith
\nor a be of a different <\/p>\n

644
\n00:42:54,240 –> 00:42:55,800
\npersuasion, are you talking to
\nthem about the truth? <\/p>\n

645
\n00:42:55,800 –> 00:42:58,680
\nWhat you can see is you can see
\nthe veils over their eyes, can’t<\/p>\n

646
\n00:42:58,680 –> 00:43:00,920
\nyou?
\nYou can see that they’re veiled.<\/p>\n

647
\n00:43:01,000 –> 00:43:04,280
\nThey can’t see.
\nAnd what has to happen is God’s <\/p>\n

648
\n00:43:04,280 –> 00:43:07,000
\ngot to push that veil away.
\nAnd you, and what you realize <\/p>\n

649
\n00:43:07,000 –> 00:43:09,560
\nwhen you start teaching people
\nthe truth is that you can’t push<\/p>\n

650
\n00:43:09,560 –> 00:43:13,600
\nthat veil away.
\nYou can’t, you can’t take that <\/p>\n

651
\n00:43:13,600 –> 00:43:16,160
\nveil, the scales or their eyes.
\nYou can’t take those things <\/p>\n

652
\n00:43:16,160 –> 00:43:18,160
\naway.
\nAnd you might give the same <\/p>\n

653
\n00:43:18,160 –> 00:43:20,680
\nlesson to 1 and they get in,
\nthey grab hold of it and then <\/p>\n

654
\n00:43:20,680 –> 00:43:22,240
\nsame lesson to another and they
\ndon’t. <\/p>\n

655
\n00:43:22,240 –> 00:43:24,760
\nAnd you’re like, well, I’m, I’m
\nthe same teacher teaching the <\/p>\n

656
\n00:43:24,760 –> 00:43:27,040
\nsame lesson.
\nAnd why is it this person gets <\/p>\n

657
\n00:43:27,040 –> 00:43:29,840
\nit and that person doesn’t.
\nAnd God’s revealed it to that <\/p>\n

658
\n00:43:29,840 –> 00:43:31,520
\none.
\nHe’s taking away the veil. <\/p>\n

659
\n00:43:31,520 –> 00:43:33,000
\nAnd this one, the veil’s still
\nthere. <\/p>\n

660
\n00:43:33,000 –> 00:43:36,120
\nThey cannot see it.
\nAnd you’re thinking, what, what <\/p>\n

661
\n00:43:36,120 –> 00:43:38,160
\ndo I have to do?
\nAnd you can’t do anything about <\/p>\n

662
\n00:43:38,160 –> 00:43:40,200
\nit.
\nYou can’t take away the veil. <\/p>\n

663
\n00:43:41,240 –> 00:43:44,400
\nGod has to take away the veil.
\nAnd you ask yourself the <\/p>\n

664
\n00:43:44,400 –> 00:43:47,480
\nquestion, well, how do you take
\naway veils? <\/p>\n

665
\n00:43:48,960 –> 00:43:51,600
\nWell, we’re told this in Second
\nCorinthians chapter 3, verses 15<\/p>\n

666
\n00:43:51,600 –> 00:43:53,840
\nand 16.
\nBut even to this day, when Moses<\/p>\n

667
\n00:43:53,840 –> 00:43:56,360
\nis read, the veil is upon their
\nheart. <\/p>\n

668
\n00:43:56,840 –> 00:43:59,760
\nThis is true.
\nJews try teaching them about <\/p>\n

669
\n00:43:59,760 –> 00:44:01,560
\nChrist, and the veil is over
\ntheir heart. <\/p>\n

670
\n00:44:04,680 –> 00:44:06,520
\nSo what do you do?
\nHow do you take the veil away? <\/p>\n

671
\n00:44:06,800 –> 00:44:10,880
\nWell, I have no idea, because
\nnevertheless, when it the heart,<\/p>\n

672
\n00:44:11,200 –> 00:44:13,920
\nwhen the heart shall turn to the
\nLord, the veil should be taken <\/p>\n

673
\n00:44:13,920 –> 00:44:22,120
\naway.
\nAnd only you can decide when the<\/p>\n

674
\n00:44:22,120 –> 00:44:29,200
\nheart is turned to the Lord.
\nYou can only answer for yourself<\/p>\n

675
\n00:44:30,680 –> 00:44:35,680
\nwhen you care so deeply about
\nthis man that compels you to <\/p>\n

676
\n00:44:35,680 –> 00:44:41,360
\nfollow him where he goes.
\nYou want to go where he stops. <\/p>\n

677
\n00:44:41,360 –> 00:44:44,440
\nYou want to stop what he cares
\nfor. <\/p>\n

678
\n00:44:44,560 –> 00:44:48,600
\nYou want to know more about why?
\nBecause your heart has turned to<\/p>\n

679
\n00:44:48,600 –> 00:44:52,040
\nhim.
\nBecause God has taken away a <\/p>\n

680
\n00:44:52,040 –> 00:44:57,400
\nveil.
\nAnd the truth is, we all have <\/p>\n

681
\n00:44:57,400 –> 00:45:01,480
\nveils.
\nPeter had several veils, and <\/p>\n

682
\n00:45:01,480 –> 00:45:06,120
\nthis one was removed.
\nBut in this chapter we’re going <\/p>\n

683
\n00:45:06,120 –> 00:45:13,600
\nto see another veil still there.
\nAnd young people, you think to <\/p>\n

684
\n00:45:13,600 –> 00:45:22,000
\nyourself, what veils do I still
\nhave over my heart? <\/p>\n

685
\n00:45:24,440 –> 00:45:29,160
\nYou know that word turned there.
\nThis word is often translated <\/p>\n

686
\n00:45:29,160 –> 00:45:31,280
\nconverted.
\nIn fact, it’s translated <\/p>\n

687
\n00:45:31,280 –> 00:45:35,240
\nconverted here about Peter,
\nJesus says about Peter in Luke <\/p>\n

688
\n00:45:35,240 –> 00:45:38,040
\n22.
\nI prayed for you Peter, that <\/p>\n

689
\n00:45:38,040 –> 00:45:43,160
\nyour faith failed not but when
\nyou are turned, when you are <\/p>\n

690
\n00:45:43,160 –> 00:45:46,560
\nconverted, strengthen your
\nbrethren. <\/p>\n

691
\n00:45:51,160 –> 00:45:54,640
\nAnd that’s when So clearly,
\nwhatever veils were pushed aside<\/p>\n

692
\n00:45:54,840 –> 00:46:00,080
\nin Matthew 16, guess what?
\nHe still had more veils. <\/p>\n

693
\n00:46:03,600 –> 00:46:06,080
\nNow the question is, what’s
\nveiling your heart? <\/p>\n

694
\n00:46:08,200 –> 00:46:17,840
\nWhat veils are over your heart?
\nWhat is stopping you from <\/p>\n

695
\n00:46:17,840 –> 00:46:21,760
\nfollowing this man for knowing
\nwho he is? <\/p>\n

696
\n00:46:22,320 –> 00:46:28,840
\nFor taking Jesus out of the
\nhalfway house and accepting who <\/p>\n

697
\n00:46:28,840 –> 00:46:37,240
\nHe truly is, what is in the way.
\nAnd I don’t know how to take <\/p>\n

698
\n00:46:37,240 –> 00:46:48,760
\nthat thing away, but whatever it
\nis, if you identify it, you can <\/p>\n

699
\n00:46:48,760 –> 00:46:55,960
\nask God to remove it.
\nAnd when it is, there’s going to<\/p>\n

700
\n00:46:55,960 –> 00:46:58,600
\nbe a blessing.
\nSo here’s our ninth point. <\/p>\n

701
\n00:47:00,640 –> 00:47:03,120
\nGod must reveal to us who Jesus
\nis. <\/p>\n

702
\n00:47:03,240 –> 00:47:05,200
\nWe all have fails that obscure
\nthis truth. <\/p>\n

703
\n00:47:06,560 –> 00:47:11,560
\nWe must pray God to help convert
\nus that our faith fail not and <\/p>\n

704
\n00:47:11,560 –> 00:47:18,640
\nthat we can be of service.
\nAnd what that leads us is to our<\/p>\n

705
\n00:47:18,640 –> 00:47:23,640
\nnext question.
\nIf that’s true, then what’s the <\/p>\n

706
\n00:47:23,640 –> 00:47:25,640
\nrock on which we must build our
\necclesia? <\/p>\n

707
\n00:47:28,040 –> 00:47:30,200
\nWe’re told in Matthew chapter
\n16, verse 18. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:47:30,200 –> 00:47:34,560
\nAnd I say unto thee, that thou
\nart Peter. <\/p>\n

709
\n00:47:35,160 –> 00:47:42,400
\nUpon this rock I will build my
\necclesia, and the gates of Hades<\/p>\n

710
\n00:47:42,560 –> 00:47:46,720
\nshall not prevail against it.
\nSo my questions, several <\/p>\n

711
\n00:47:46,720 –> 00:47:48,400
\nquestions arise here.
\nA few. <\/p>\n

712
\n00:47:48,520 –> 00:47:50,840
\nWhat’s the rock on which he’s
\ngoing to build the ecclesia? <\/p>\n

713
\n00:47:51,920 –> 00:47:54,040
\nWhy will he build his ecclesia
\non this rock? <\/p>\n

714
\n00:47:54,280 –> 00:47:58,120
\nWhat are the gates of Hades?
\nWhy won’t they prevail against <\/p>\n

715
\n00:47:58,120 –> 00:48:01,280
\nthe ecclesia?
\nSo let’s start by just looking <\/p>\n

716
\n00:48:01,280 –> 00:48:03,080
\nat some of the words here,
\nbecause they matter. <\/p>\n

717
\n00:48:03,320 –> 00:48:08,240
\nOK, so this word for Peter, this
\nis this word petros. <\/p>\n

718
\n00:48:09,200 –> 00:48:11,920
\nAnd this word rock is the word
\nPetra. <\/p>\n

719
\n00:48:12,640 –> 00:48:14,320
\nNow these are different words,
\nright? <\/p>\n

720
\n00:48:14,560 –> 00:48:19,240
\nSo a petros is a piece of rock
\nor stone. <\/p>\n

721
\n00:48:20,520 –> 00:48:23,120
\nIt’s like a single stone.
\nIt’s like a movable stone. <\/p>\n

722
\n00:48:23,360 –> 00:48:25,520
\nI, I could have gone outside and
\ngrabbed 1. <\/p>\n

723
\n00:48:25,520 –> 00:48:28,200
\nAnd I, if I, if I put a stone
\nhere on the ground and I could <\/p>\n

724
\n00:48:28,200 –> 00:48:32,200
\nsort of kick it and move it
\nright, And then that would be a <\/p>\n

725
\n00:48:32,200 –> 00:48:34,480
\npetros.
\nI, I could, I could pick it up <\/p>\n

726
\n00:48:34,800 –> 00:48:38,240
\nand stack it on something.
\nI could pick it up and throw it <\/p>\n

727
\n00:48:38,240 –> 00:48:41,240
\naside.
\nIt’s a movable stone. <\/p>\n

728
\n00:48:41,240 –> 00:48:44,840
\nIt’s a, it’s a piece of stone
\nthat it can have two purposes of<\/p>\n

729
\n00:48:44,840 –> 00:48:47,360
\npetros.
\nIt can get in your way and <\/p>\n

730
\n00:48:47,360 –> 00:48:50,680
\ntherefore you Chuck it aside, or
\nyou can you can use it to build <\/p>\n

731
\n00:48:50,680 –> 00:48:54,120
\non something and make it useful.
\nBut either way, that’s what the <\/p>\n

732
\n00:48:54,120 –> 00:48:57,520
\nPetros is.
\nNow that’s very different than a<\/p>\n

733
\n00:48:57,520 –> 00:49:00,760
\nPetra.
\nA Petra has a rock or a Cliff or<\/p>\n

734
\n00:49:00,760 –> 00:49:02,600
\na projecting rock.
\nIt’s a mother rock. <\/p>\n

735
\n00:49:02,600 –> 00:49:05,840
\nIt’s a huge mass, a solid
\nformation. <\/p>\n

736
\n00:49:06,200 –> 00:49:10,320
\nIt’s fixed, it’s enduring, it’s
\nimmovable. <\/p>\n

737
\n00:49:10,600 –> 00:49:15,640
\nSo let me take you to a picture
\nof the, of this cave, this that,<\/p>\n

738
\n00:49:15,640 –> 00:49:18,000
\nthat, that they call the gates
\nof Hell, right? <\/p>\n

739
\n00:49:18,200 –> 00:49:20,600
\nAnd this there it is in, if you
\ntake a trip to Caesarea <\/p>\n

740
\n00:49:20,600 –> 00:49:23,640
\nPhilippi, you can climb on this
\narea. <\/p>\n

741
\n00:49:23,640 –> 00:49:25,360
\nAnd if you do, you can see all
\nthe ruins. <\/p>\n

742
\n00:49:25,360 –> 00:49:27,920
\nAnd that’s The Cave there,
\nright? <\/p>\n

743
\n00:49:28,360 –> 00:49:35,160
\nAnd that is a Petros and that is
\na Petra. <\/p>\n

744
\n00:49:36,920 –> 00:49:38,000
\nDo you see that they’re
\ndifferent? <\/p>\n

745
\n00:49:47,960 –> 00:49:52,080
\nSo what is the Petra on which
\nChrist is going to build as <\/p>\n

746
\n00:49:52,080 –> 00:49:59,400
\necclesia?
\nI put forward to you that Petra <\/p>\n

747
\n00:49:59,400 –> 00:50:09,200
\nis Christ himself, and not only
\nhim, but the belief that he is <\/p>\n

748
\n00:50:09,200 –> 00:50:11,080
\nthe Christ, the Son of the
\nliving God. <\/p>\n

749
\n00:50:11,880 –> 00:50:15,360
\nIf we build and build on this
\nand if we stumble, we stumble on<\/p>\n

750
\n00:50:15,360 –> 00:50:17,120
\nthis.
\nAnd there’s never been a <\/p>\n

751
\n00:50:17,120 –> 00:50:23,800
\nquestion maybe as dichotomous in
\nthe in the history of humanity <\/p>\n

752
\n00:50:23,800 –> 00:50:28,120
\nin this very question.
\nNow that Jesus is himself, the <\/p>\n

753
\n00:50:28,120 –> 00:50:33,600
\nrock is suggested by many New
\nTestament passages, and I’ll <\/p>\n

754
\n00:50:33,600 –> 00:50:37,040
\njust show you 3 for example, in
\nEphesians chapter 2 verse 20. <\/p>\n

755
\n00:50:37,320 –> 00:50:39,320
\nAnd ye are built on the
\nfoundation of the apostles and <\/p>\n

756
\n00:50:39,320 –> 00:50:42,680
\nprophets, Jesus Christ being the
\nchief cornerstone. <\/p>\n

757
\n00:50:43,440 –> 00:50:45,360
\nYou might want to write that as
\na cross reference here in <\/p>\n

758
\n00:50:45,360 –> 00:50:47,800
\nMatthew chapter 16.
\nBut that’s not the only verse <\/p>\n

759
\n00:50:47,800 –> 00:50:49,120
\nyou might want to write as a
\ncross reference. <\/p>\n

760
\n00:50:49,280 –> 00:50:51,160
\nIn fact, he’s probably in your
\nmargin already. <\/p>\n

761
\n00:50:52,280 –> 00:50:54,080
\nActs chapter 4, verses 11 and
\n12. <\/p>\n

762
\n00:50:54,280 –> 00:50:57,040
\nThis is a stone which is set at
\nnot of you builders which has <\/p>\n

763
\n00:50:57,040 –> 00:51:01,240
\nbecome the head of the corner.
\nNeither is there salvation in <\/p>\n

764
\n00:51:01,240 –> 00:51:03,640
\nany other.
\nIf you build on any other stone <\/p>\n

765
\n00:51:03,640 –> 00:51:05,680
\nthan this one, there’s no
\nsalvation. <\/p>\n

766
\n00:51:05,840 –> 00:51:09,920
\nThe only rock on which you can
\nbuild and have salvation is this<\/p>\n

767
\n00:51:09,920 –> 00:51:14,960
\nrock or first Peter chapter 2
\nverse 7 unto you, therefore, <\/p>\n

768
\n00:51:14,960 –> 00:51:17,520
\nwhich believe he is precious,
\nbut under them which be <\/p>\n

769
\n00:51:17,520 –> 00:51:19,720
\ndisobedient.
\nThe stone which the builders <\/p>\n

770
\n00:51:19,720 –> 00:51:22,600
\ndisallowed the same as the maid,
\nthe head of the corner. <\/p>\n

771
\n00:51:24,200 –> 00:51:27,600
\nSee the the the New Testament is
\nthat is that pains to establish <\/p>\n

772
\n00:51:27,600 –> 00:51:32,280
\nto us that Jesus is this rock.
\nAnd so our 10th point is simply <\/p>\n

773
\n00:51:32,280 –> 00:51:39,920
\nthis, the rock is Christ.
\nBut if we turn to first Peter <\/p>\n

774
\n00:51:39,920 –> 00:51:44,720
\nchapter 2 verses 4 to 8 that we
\njust quoted from in small part, <\/p>\n

775
\n00:51:45,520 –> 00:51:49,000
\nI believe we see Peter
\ncommenting on Matthew 16. <\/p>\n

776
\n00:51:49,000 –> 00:51:54,000
\nSo let’s take a deeper dive on
\nthat first Peter chapter 2 <\/p>\n

777
\n00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:57,920
\nverses 4 to 8.
\nWe read there so long passage, <\/p>\n

778
\n00:51:57,920 –> 00:52:02,320
\nso bear with me.
\nTo whom coming as into a living <\/p>\n

779
\n00:52:02,320 –> 00:52:08,400
\nstone disallowed indeed of men,
\nbut chosen of God and precious, <\/p>\n

780
\n00:52:10,040 –> 00:52:14,520
\nye are also lively stones.
\nSo what I want to see here is I <\/p>\n

781
\n00:52:14,520 –> 00:52:16,800
\nwant to see that there’s two
\ndifferent types of stones in <\/p>\n

782
\n00:52:16,800 –> 00:52:20,160
\nthis passage.
\nEveryone follow that there’s a <\/p>\n

783
\n00:52:20,160 –> 00:52:27,680
\nliving stone disallowed of men,
\nand ye also are lively stones. <\/p>\n

784
\n00:52:28,200 –> 00:52:30,360
\nDo we see that there’s two
\ndifferent stones, two different <\/p>\n

785
\n00:52:30,360 –> 00:52:35,880
\ntypes of stones in this passage?
\nWherefore also it is contained <\/p>\n

786
\n00:52:35,880 –> 00:52:37,760
\nin the Scripture.
\nBehold, I lay in Zion a chief <\/p>\n

787
\n00:52:37,760 –> 00:52:43,160
\ncornerstone elect precious, and
\nhe that believeth on Him shall <\/p>\n

788
\n00:52:43,160 –> 00:52:47,480
\nnot be confounded unto you
\ntherefore which believeth He is <\/p>\n

789
\n00:52:47,480 –> 00:52:51,120
\nprecious, but to him which is
\ndisobedient. <\/p>\n

790
\n00:52:51,120 –> 00:52:53,480
\nThe stone which the builders
\ndisallowed the same as made the <\/p>\n

791
\n00:52:53,480 –> 00:52:55,960
\nhead of the cornerstone of
\nstumbling a rock of a fence, <\/p>\n

792
\n00:52:56,400 –> 00:52:59,280
\neven of them which stumble at
\nthe word being disobedient, <\/p>\n

793
\n00:52:59,280 –> 00:53:03,680
\nwhere unto they were appointed.
\nSo what’s this first saying <\/p>\n

794
\n00:53:03,680 –> 00:53:05,360
\nreally?
\nIt’s saying that Jesus is a <\/p>\n

795
\n00:53:05,360 –> 00:53:06,840
\nliving stone.
\nHe’s chosen. <\/p>\n

796
\n00:53:06,960 –> 00:53:10,160
\nHe’s the precious cornerstone
\nwhich men rejected and along <\/p>\n

797
\n00:53:10,160 –> 00:53:13,320
\nwith Jesus we are stones, but
\nwe’re a different type of stone.<\/p>\n

798
\n00:53:14,280 –> 00:53:19,000
\nHe’s the foundation stone, He’s
\nthe Petra he and and we are the <\/p>\n

799
\n00:53:19,000 –> 00:53:22,120
\nliving building stones.
\nWe’re built on the foundation to<\/p>\n

800
\n00:53:22,120 –> 00:53:26,480
\ncreate a house for God, where
\nGod lives and where God receives<\/p>\n

801
\n00:53:26,480 –> 00:53:30,000
\nacceptable sacrifices.
\nAnd of course, this, this leads <\/p>\n

802
\n00:53:30,000 –> 00:53:32,760
\nto the question, what is a
\ncornerstone? <\/p>\n

803
\n00:53:33,000 –> 00:53:35,320
\nNow, if you knew anything about
\nme, and I don’t know that you <\/p>\n

804
\n00:53:35,320 –> 00:53:37,640
\nknow much about me, you know
\nthat I know nothing at all <\/p>\n

805
\n00:53:37,640 –> 00:53:40,400
\nwhatsoever about building.
\nI’m useless. <\/p>\n

806
\n00:53:41,560 –> 00:53:43,760
\nI mean, if you want, if you have
\na question about financial <\/p>\n

807
\n00:53:43,760 –> 00:53:46,640
\nadvice, I might be your man, but
\nnot about building. <\/p>\n

808
\n00:53:46,640 –> 00:53:49,240
\nI know nothing about building.
\nSo I have to look. <\/p>\n

809
\n00:53:49,240 –> 00:53:51,160
\nWell, what is a chief
\ncornerstone? <\/p>\n

810
\n00:53:51,160 –> 00:53:52,480
\nWhat is that all about?
\nRight. <\/p>\n

811
\n00:53:52,760 –> 00:53:56,280
\nSo how do we understand what a
\ncornerstone is, what it does? <\/p>\n

812
\n00:53:57,360 –> 00:54:01,280
\nOK, so a cornerstone is the
\nfirst stone laid in creating a <\/p>\n

813
\n00:54:01,280 –> 00:54:06,480
\nfoundation for a building and
\nbeing the first stone in these <\/p>\n

814
\n00:54:06,480 –> 00:54:10,240
\ntwo essential qualities, right?
\nAnd the first quality is that <\/p>\n

815
\n00:54:10,240 –> 00:54:14,400
\nit’s sides must be perfectly
\nangled, because if it’s sides <\/p>\n

816
\n00:54:14,400 –> 00:54:17,680
\nare not perfectly angled, the
\nwhole building will take a shape<\/p>\n

817
\n00:54:17,760 –> 00:54:23,200
\nwhich is structurally unsound.
\nSo if the edges must be straight<\/p>\n

818
\n00:54:23,200 –> 00:54:26,080
\nup and down, the top of it must
\nbe totally flat. <\/p>\n

819
\n00:54:26,240 –> 00:54:32,080
\nIt must be a perfect stone in
\nevery regard, right? <\/p>\n

820
\n00:54:32,360 –> 00:54:37,920
\nSo if the cornerstone is not
\nperfect and level, the building <\/p>\n

821
\n00:54:37,920 –> 00:54:40,560
\nwon’t be square.
\nSo in ancient times, they use <\/p>\n

822
\n00:54:40,560 –> 00:54:44,760
\ninstruments, right, in order to
\nensure that the stone was level.<\/p>\n

823
\n00:54:44,920 –> 00:54:47,160
\nOne of those instruments is
\nsomething that looks like this. <\/p>\n

824
\n00:54:47,160 –> 00:54:51,040
\nThis is a Plumb line and this is
\na perfect 90\u00b0 angle. <\/p>\n

825
\n00:54:51,800 –> 00:54:56,680
\nSo by by putting that perfect
\n90\u00b0 angle on a stone, you <\/p>\n

826
\n00:54:56,680 –> 00:55:00,200
\nmeasure that the gravity pulls
\nthat Plumb line straight down. <\/p>\n

827
\n00:55:00,200 –> 00:55:03,720
\nAnd what you’re looking for is,
\nis there any angle such that <\/p>\n

828
\n00:55:03,720 –> 00:55:07,360
\nthis this this cornerstone is
\ngoing to lead the building to <\/p>\n

829
\n00:55:07,360 –> 00:55:13,480
\nnot being not being square.
\nSo a lot of care was taken in <\/p>\n

830
\n00:55:13,480 –> 00:55:16,560
\nancient times to ensure the
\nfoundation was a perfect shape. <\/p>\n

831
\n00:55:17,520 –> 00:55:20,680
\nSo what’s the next quality of a
\ncornerstone that you need? <\/p>\n

832
\n00:55:20,840 –> 00:55:22,800
\nWell, the next quality is it
\nneeds to bear exceptional <\/p>\n

833
\n00:55:22,800 –> 00:55:27,400
\nweight.
\nThe foundation stone must be <\/p>\n

834
\n00:55:27,400 –> 00:55:31,040
\nstrong and durable.
\nSo when the builders reject a <\/p>\n

835
\n00:55:31,040 –> 00:55:33,720
\nstone, they’re essentially
\nsaying that isn’t straight <\/p>\n

836
\n00:55:33,720 –> 00:55:38,000
\nenough or it’s not strong enough
\nfor the building in question. <\/p>\n

837
\n00:55:38,560 –> 00:55:41,800
\nAnd of course you would reject a
\nstone because you don’t, you <\/p>\n

838
\n00:55:41,800 –> 00:55:44,000
\ndon’t put a cornerstone in a
\nbuilding going, I hope this is <\/p>\n

839
\n00:55:44,000 –> 00:55:48,360
\ngood enough, this one, right?
\nUnless it’s perfect, you reject <\/p>\n

840
\n00:55:48,360 –> 00:55:53,320
\nit, it has to be perfect.
\nSo you’d see a lot of stones out<\/p>\n

841
\n00:55:53,320 –> 00:55:55,600
\nthere that were they’re just not
\nquite good enough for the <\/p>\n

842
\n00:55:55,600 –> 00:55:57,360
\nbuilding, we’re going to reject
\nthat stone. <\/p>\n

843
\n00:55:58,680 –> 00:56:02,160
\nSo it’d be common for a builder
\nto start to start making a <\/p>\n

844
\n00:56:02,160 –> 00:56:04,440
\nbuilding and go, that
\ncornerstone’s not good enough. <\/p>\n

845
\n00:56:04,960 –> 00:56:07,120
\nWe cannot begin the building
\nwith that stone. <\/p>\n

846
\n00:56:07,120 –> 00:56:08,400
\nWe’re going to reject that
\nstone. <\/p>\n

847
\n00:56:08,520 –> 00:56:10,520
\nI need another one.
\nI need one whose lines are <\/p>\n

848
\n00:56:10,520 –> 00:56:12,600
\nperfectly straight.
\nI need one that can bear <\/p>\n

849
\n00:56:12,600 –> 00:56:14,320
\nexception or wait.
\nThere can’t even cracks or <\/p>\n

850
\n00:56:14,320 –> 00:56:17,080
\nfissures in the in the stone
\nbecause everything is going to <\/p>\n

851
\n00:56:17,080 –> 00:56:27,160
\nbe built on that stone.
\nSo of course, the Jews in the <\/p>\n

852
\n00:56:27,160 –> 00:56:29,520
\nmidst of building the Second
\nTemple did reject Christ. <\/p>\n

853
\n00:56:30,360 –> 00:56:33,400
\nChrist wasn’t straight enough.
\nHow so? <\/p>\n

854
\n00:56:33,400 –> 00:56:34,800
\nWell, he didn’t keep their
\ntraditions. <\/p>\n

855
\n00:56:37,040 –> 00:56:38,760
\nHe wasn’t strong enough.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

856
\n00:56:38,760 –> 00:56:43,520
\nHe lacked physical beauty.
\nHe was a Nazarite, essentially. <\/p>\n

857
\n00:56:43,640 –> 00:56:47,080
\nThat Jesus wasn’t what they want
\nhim to be, so they rejected him.<\/p>\n

858
\n00:56:48,080 –> 00:56:51,920
\nSo he became a stone over which
\nthey stumbled time and time <\/p>\n

859
\n00:56:51,920 –> 00:56:55,960
\nagain.
\nSo what does it mean if Jesus is<\/p>\n

860
\n00:56:55,960 –> 00:57:01,720
\na cornerstone for us?
\nIt means that his lines are <\/p>\n

861
\n00:57:01,720 –> 00:57:05,680
\nstraight without question.
\nWhat that means is that when <\/p>\n

862
\n00:57:05,760 –> 00:57:10,040
\nJesus says something is right,
\nit’s right. <\/p>\n

863
\n00:57:12,280 –> 00:57:14,360
\nI, I, I just want to impress
\nthat upon you. <\/p>\n

864
\n00:57:16,680 –> 00:57:20,880
\nWhen Jesus says something is
\nright, it is right. <\/p>\n

865
\n00:57:23,680 –> 00:57:29,720
\nIt’s not for us to evaluate it
\nand say, well, my interpretation<\/p>\n

866
\n00:57:31,000 –> 00:57:33,520
\nor I’m going to change it to
\nmake it more acceptable to me. <\/p>\n

867
\n00:57:34,600 –> 00:57:38,520
\nI’m going to change the
\ncornerstone so that the Petros <\/p>\n

868
\n00:57:38,520 –> 00:57:43,360
\nis more comfortable.
\nWhen Jesus says something is the<\/p>\n

869
\n00:57:43,360 –> 00:57:50,520
\nway it is, it is that way
\nbecause his lines are perfectly <\/p>\n

870
\n00:57:50,520 –> 00:57:55,320
\nstraight.
\nIt means that Jesus can bear <\/p>\n

871
\n00:57:55,320 –> 00:58:01,520
\nexceptional weight.
\nIt means that he’s the Son of <\/p>\n

872
\n00:58:01,520 –> 00:58:07,840
\nGod.
\nWe do not conform him to our <\/p>\n

873
\n00:58:07,840 –> 00:58:09,960
\nshape.
\nIt’s not like we’re, we’re, <\/p>\n

874
\n00:58:09,960 –> 00:58:12,560
\nwe’re a lumpy rock with lots of
\nimperfections in it. <\/p>\n

875
\n00:58:12,760 –> 00:58:15,720
\nAnd we think, Gee, how can I,
\nhow can I just chisel out the <\/p>\n

876
\n00:58:15,720 –> 00:58:18,520
\ncornerstone so that the lumpy
\nrock gets sits more comfortably?<\/p>\n

877
\n00:58:21,760 –> 00:58:29,240
\nWe have to be conformed to him.
\nIf our angles don’t match his, <\/p>\n

878
\n00:58:30,520 –> 00:58:34,040
\nours need to change.
\nWe don’t change him. <\/p>\n

879
\n00:58:38,000 –> 00:58:44,080
\nIf we build, we build on him, we
\nconform ourselves to his shape. <\/p>\n

880
\n00:58:44,080 –> 00:58:47,760
\nRomans chapter 8, verse 29 says
\nfor those he foreknew, he <\/p>\n

881
\n00:58:47,760 –> 00:58:52,360
\npredestined to be conformed to
\nthe image of his son. <\/p>\n

882
\n00:58:52,440 –> 00:58:55,400
\nAnd what I want you to do is get
\nthis picture and the picture is <\/p>\n

883
\n00:58:55,480 –> 00:58:57,480
\nthat I see a Petros on the
\nground. <\/p>\n

884
\n00:58:58,480 –> 00:59:00,680
\nIt’s it’s a it’s, it’s a, it’s a
\nrock. <\/p>\n

885
\n00:59:01,000 –> 00:59:03,360
\nIt’s it’s an imperfect rock
\nbecause it’s, you know, it’s, <\/p>\n

886
\n00:59:03,640 –> 00:59:06,440
\nit’s, it’s fallen from the
\nmother rock and it’s just <\/p>\n

887
\n00:59:06,440 –> 00:59:08,440
\nsitting on the ground.
\nI think I said, I want to build <\/p>\n

888
\n00:59:08,440 –> 00:59:11,120
\nwith this rock.
\nI want to make this rock useful.<\/p>\n

889
\n00:59:11,800 –> 00:59:14,040
\nSo what am I going to do?
\nWell, my cornerstone is sitting <\/p>\n

890
\n00:59:14,040 –> 00:59:16,080
\nover there.
\nMy cornerstone is perfect. <\/p>\n

891
\n00:59:17,440 –> 00:59:19,000
\nSo what do I got to do with this
\nrock? <\/p>\n

892
\n00:59:21,360 –> 00:59:29,720
\nI’ve got to chisel it to make
\nits lines match the cornerstone.<\/p>\n

893
\n00:59:32,000 –> 00:59:34,560
\nI don’t take the rock and go.
\nIt’s not really perfect, but <\/p>\n

894
\n00:59:34,560 –> 00:59:36,760
\nwhat I can do is I can change
\nthe cornerstone so this rock <\/p>\n

895
\n00:59:36,760 –> 00:59:42,280
\nfits.
\nYou see, there’s two different <\/p>\n

896
\n00:59:42,280 –> 00:59:44,200
\nkinds of stones.
\nThere’s a Petra and there’s a <\/p>\n

897
\n00:59:44,200 –> 00:59:46,480
\nPetros.
\nThey’re not the same. <\/p>\n

898
\n00:59:46,560 –> 00:59:53,640
\nYou don’t treat them the same.
\nAnd So what do I mean by that? <\/p>\n

899
\n00:59:53,640 –> 01:00:05,680
\nI mean, I mean that for us to be
\nGod’s children, we got to <\/p>\n

900
\n01:00:05,680 –> 01:00:08,240
\nconfess that this man is God’s
\nchild. <\/p>\n

901
\n01:00:09,480 –> 01:00:12,000
\nAnd in doing that, we changed to
\nbe like him. <\/p>\n

902
\n01:00:14,280 –> 01:00:17,480
\nAnd it’s hard, actually, I think
\nthat’s hard. <\/p>\n

903
\n01:00:18,320 –> 01:00:20,040
\nI think getting chiseled is
\nhard. <\/p>\n

904
\n01:00:20,560 –> 01:00:29,680
\nEver felt a bit chiseled?
\nAnd I, I don’t, I don’t know how<\/p>\n

905
\n01:00:29,680 –> 01:00:32,680
\nto take a heart that’s full of
\nimperfections and make it more <\/p>\n

906
\n01:00:32,680 –> 01:00:36,440
\nlike the Lord.
\nBut I know a prayer you can say <\/p>\n

907
\n01:00:39,080 –> 01:00:43,600
\nand and maybe you’re at bed at
\nnight and you know your mind’s <\/p>\n

908
\n01:00:43,600 –> 01:00:46,240
\ngoing all sorts of funny places.
\nDoes anyone’s head go funny <\/p>\n

909
\n01:00:46,240 –> 01:00:48,000
\nplaces at night on bed?
\nRight. <\/p>\n

910
\n01:00:48,560 –> 01:00:50,200
\nJust me and Caleb.
\nAll right, cool. <\/p>\n

911
\n01:00:52,640 –> 01:00:56,360
\nAnd because my I have a busy
\nmind, that probably doesn’t <\/p>\n

912
\n01:00:56,360 –> 01:00:58,400
\nsurprise you very much.
\nI have a busy mind. <\/p>\n

913
\n01:00:59,880 –> 01:01:02,200
\nSo.
\nSo maybe you want to meditate on<\/p>\n

914
\n01:01:02,200 –> 01:01:06,000
\nsomething while you’re in bed.
\nHere’s 1:00. <\/p>\n

915
\n01:01:07,040 –> 01:01:11,320
\nWhat if you said on your bed as
\nyour mind is busy going all sort<\/p>\n

916
\n01:01:11,320 –> 01:01:14,680
\nof different directions?
\nI believe that Jesus is the <\/p>\n

917
\n01:01:14,680 –> 01:01:16,280
\nMessiah, the Son of the living
\nGod. <\/p>\n

918
\n01:01:17,840 –> 01:01:20,880
\nWhat if you said that and then
\nyou say it again? <\/p>\n

919
\n01:01:21,560 –> 01:01:24,960
\nI believe that Jesus is the
\nMessiah, the Son of the living <\/p>\n

920
\n01:01:24,960 –> 01:01:27,960
\nGod.
\nI believe that Jesus is the <\/p>\n

921
\n01:01:27,960 –> 01:01:29,880
\nMessiah, the Son of the living
\nGod. <\/p>\n

922
\n01:01:30,440 –> 01:01:33,880
\nI believe that Jesus is the
\nMessiah, the Son of the living <\/p>\n

923
\n01:01:33,880 –> 01:01:37,560
\nGod.
\nWhat if you meditated on that? <\/p>\n

924
\n01:01:39,200 –> 01:01:43,480
\nWhat if you got that message so
\ndeep down in your heart? <\/p>\n

925
\n01:01:45,240 –> 01:01:49,880
\nWhat would that change?
\nSo our next point is simply <\/p>\n

926
\n01:01:49,880 –> 01:01:52,600
\nthis.
\nAs living stones, we’re <\/p>\n

927
\n01:01:52,600 –> 01:01:56,360
\nconformed to and then built on
\nthe foundation stone. <\/p>\n

928
\n01:01:59,840 –> 01:02:02,880
\nSo let’s talk about what is
\nbuilt on the rock. <\/p>\n

929
\n01:02:03,880 –> 01:02:07,160
\nWhat’s built on the rock, we’re
\ntold, is the ecclesia. <\/p>\n

930
\n01:02:07,600 –> 01:02:11,680
\nOn this Petra, I’ll build my
\necclesia, and the gates of Haiti<\/p>\n

931
\n01:02:11,680 –> 01:02:15,280
\nshall not prevail against it.
\nNow, you might want to write, <\/p>\n

932
\n01:02:15,280 –> 01:02:18,200
\nand I know it says in the King
\nJames Version, it says church. <\/p>\n

933
\n01:02:18,480 –> 01:02:21,160
\nYou might want to cross out
\nchurch and write ecclesia <\/p>\n

934
\n01:02:21,360 –> 01:02:24,520
\nbecause this is the first use of
\nthe word ecclesia in the entire <\/p>\n

935
\n01:02:24,520 –> 01:02:32,160
\nNew Testament.
\nAnd the word ecclesia is <\/p>\n

936
\n01:02:32,160 –> 01:02:33,720
\nmade-up.
\nWhat happened there? <\/p>\n

937
\n01:02:34,320 –> 01:02:38,320
\nLet’s put you back.
\nAll right, I was told this might<\/p>\n

938
\n01:02:38,320 –> 01:02:38,680
\nhappen.
\nAll <\/p>\n

939
\n01:02:58,120 –> 01:03:01,160
\nright, well, I’m going to let
\nDan you deal with that and I’m <\/p>\n

940
\n01:03:01,160 –> 01:03:04,200
\ngoing to move on because my
\nslides aren’t very good anyways.<\/p>\n

941
\n01:03:04,200 –> 01:03:10,040
\nYou guys know that.
\nThe word ecclesia is made-up of <\/p>\n

942
\n01:03:10,040 –> 01:03:16,400
\n2 words right?
\nThe word ECH means out of and <\/p>\n

943
\n01:03:16,400 –> 01:03:23,480
\nthe word cresia means a call.
\nSo we think of a church as a <\/p>\n

944
\n01:03:23,480 –> 01:03:27,280
\nbuilding.
\nNow calling ourselves a church <\/p>\n

945
\n01:03:27,280 –> 01:03:31,120
\nwould be like the 1st century
\nbelievers calling themselves a <\/p>\n

946
\n01:03:31,120 –> 01:03:35,000
\nsynagogue right?
\nJesus is not creating. <\/p>\n

947
\n01:03:35,000 –> 01:03:39,880
\nNow this is the important thing.
\nJesus is not creating a man made<\/p>\n

948
\n01:03:40,240 –> 01:03:43,320
\nbuilding.
\nThe whole point is he’s not <\/p>\n

949
\n01:03:43,320 –> 01:03:46,960
\nbuilding something man made.
\nThis is exactly Peter’s point in<\/p>\n

950
\n01:03:46,960 –> 01:03:51,840
\nfirst Peter chapter 2.
\nYou are being built up as living<\/p>\n

951
\n01:03:51,840 –> 01:03:54,480
\nstones.
\nWe’re not building a building. <\/p>\n

952
\n01:03:55,720 –> 01:03:59,080
\nWe are living stones.
\nYou know what is it that the <\/p>\n

953
\n01:03:59,080 –> 01:04:02,720
\nworld, let’s say the world,
\ndestroyed every Christadelphian <\/p>\n

954
\n01:04:02,720 –> 01:04:07,920
\nhall in the world.
\nThey wouldn’t destroy us, would <\/p>\n

955
\n01:04:07,920 –> 01:04:10,360
\nthey?
\nWe are not a building. <\/p>\n

956
\n01:04:10,840 –> 01:04:13,600
\nIt does not matter that we do
\nnot have property. <\/p>\n

957
\n01:04:14,880 –> 01:04:19,080
\nWe will meet in alleys, we will
\nmeet in homes, we will meet in <\/p>\n

958
\n01:04:19,080 –> 01:04:21,520
\nhired halls.
\nIt does not matter. <\/p>\n

959
\n01:04:21,600 –> 01:04:26,760
\nWe are not tied to property.
\nThe ecclesia is not property. <\/p>\n

960
\n01:04:27,080 –> 01:04:29,400
\nThe Ecclesia is not something
\nman made. <\/p>\n

961
\n01:04:31,640 –> 01:04:34,680
\nWe are a spiritual house made
\nfrom living stones. <\/p>\n

962
\n01:04:41,080 –> 01:04:45,040
\nIf you build a stone onto a
\ncornerstone, it’s useful. <\/p>\n

963
\n01:04:45,840 –> 01:04:49,680
\nNow, it’s not that a Petros is
\nintrinsically useful. <\/p>\n

964
\n01:04:50,400 –> 01:04:53,560
\nIt’s useful because it’s part of
\nsomething larger than itself. <\/p>\n

965
\n01:04:54,760 –> 01:04:58,000
\nIf you take a Petra, if you
\ntake, if you take a a brick or a<\/p>\n

966
\n01:04:58,000 –> 01:05:01,400
\nstone built on a house and you
\nthrow it to the ground, it’s <\/p>\n

967
\n01:05:01,520 –> 01:05:05,200
\nit’s now useless.
\nThe stone is not useful because <\/p>\n

968
\n01:05:05,200 –> 01:05:08,560
\nit’s useful in and of itself.
\nIt’s useful because you put it <\/p>\n

969
\n01:05:08,560 –> 01:05:11,080
\non a foundation and it becomes a
\nbuilding. <\/p>\n

970
\n01:05:11,760 –> 01:05:17,240
\nIt’s not intrinsically useful.
\nAll right, so there and then. <\/p>\n

971
\n01:05:43,520 –> 01:05:52,200
\nOK, sorry for the interruption.
\nWe’re not in Ecclesia because we<\/p>\n

972
\n01:05:55,440 –> 01:06:00,560
\nbecause we have buildings.
\nWe’re ecclesia because we’re <\/p>\n

973
\n01:06:00,560 –> 01:06:07,360
\nbuilt on Christ.
\nIt’s because brothers, sisters, <\/p>\n

974
\n01:06:08,680 –> 01:06:11,400
\nit’s because we know a unique
\ntruth about the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n

975
\n01:06:11,400 –> 01:06:16,440
\nChrist.
\nWe’re in an ecclesia because we <\/p>\n

976
\n01:06:16,440 –> 01:06:21,440
\nknow and believe that this man
\nis the Son of the living God. <\/p>\n

977
\n01:06:26,640 –> 01:06:31,000
\nAnd because of that, we are
\nbuilt into a building that has <\/p>\n

978
\n01:06:31,000 –> 01:06:35,360
\nnot that’s not made of material
\nthings. <\/p>\n

979
\n01:06:35,360 –> 01:06:38,240
\nIt’s a spiritual building, you
\nsee. <\/p>\n

980
\n01:06:38,240 –> 01:06:42,480
\nYou know, Augustus Caesar, he
\nbuilt a vast empire and it’s <\/p>\n

981
\n01:06:42,480 –> 01:06:50,200
\ndestroyed.
\nOur Aquisia rejects man made <\/p>\n

982
\n01:06:50,200 –> 01:06:54,040
\nmonuments.
\nWe reject temples. <\/p>\n

983
\n01:06:54,600 –> 01:07:00,320
\nWe have no temples.
\nEcclesia rejects man made <\/p>\n

984
\n01:07:00,320 –> 01:07:05,640
\nreligion.
\nIt rejects Pagan understandings <\/p>\n

985
\n01:07:05,760 –> 01:07:08,640
\nof things like God and pain that
\nhave been rejected long ago. <\/p>\n

986
\n01:07:08,760 –> 01:07:11,600
\nIt rejects man made ideas about
\nGod. <\/p>\n

987
\n01:07:14,240 –> 01:07:19,160
\nThose things are dead, those
\nthings can be burned, those <\/p>\n

988
\n01:07:19,160 –> 01:07:22,680
\nthings can be consumed, and
\nthose things can be destroyed. <\/p>\n

989
\n01:07:24,480 –> 01:07:29,640
\nThe true ecclesia is called out
\nto believe the truth about Jesus<\/p>\n

990
\n01:07:29,640 –> 01:07:32,800
\nand His Kingdom and reject man
\nmade objects that will be <\/p>\n

991
\n01:07:32,800 –> 01:07:39,320
\ndestroyed and burned.
\nSo in our last few moments I <\/p>\n

992
\n01:07:39,320 –> 01:07:42,440
\nwant to consider the much
\ndebated words of Matthew 16 <\/p>\n

993
\n01:07:42,440 –> 01:07:44,240
\nverse 18 and what they actually
\nmean. <\/p>\n

994
\n01:07:44,760 –> 01:07:49,600
\nSo Matthew chapter 16, verse 19
\nsays this. <\/p>\n

995
\n01:07:50,360 –> 01:07:53,120
\nAnd I will give unto thee, to
\nthee the keys of the Kingdom of <\/p>\n

996
\n01:07:53,120 –> 01:07:55,240
\nheaven, And whatsoever thou
\nshalt bind on earth shall be <\/p>\n

997
\n01:07:55,240 –> 01:07:58,200
\nbound in heaven, And whatsoever
\nthou shalt loose on earth shall <\/p>\n

998
\n01:07:58,200 –> 01:08:00,920
\nbe loosed in heaven.
\nNow it’s tempting to comment on <\/p>\n

999
\n01:08:00,920 –> 01:08:04,240
\nwhat these words don’t mean, but
\nwe’ll save that for our next <\/p>\n

1000
\n01:08:04,240 –> 01:08:08,280
\nclass.
\nI want to stop and ask the <\/p>\n

1001
\n01:08:08,280 –> 01:08:10,600
\nquestion, What would the
\ndisciples who have heard, who <\/p>\n

1002
\n01:08:10,600 –> 01:08:13,080
\nheard this, what would they have
\nunderstood Jesus to mean here? <\/p>\n

1003
\n01:08:13,480 –> 01:08:14,880
\nSo we got to take it piece by
\npiece. <\/p>\n

1004
\n01:08:14,880 –> 01:08:17,120
\nFirst, the keys, what are keys
\nused for? <\/p>\n

1005
\n01:08:17,279 –> 01:08:20,560
\nWell, keys unlock things.
\nThey grant access. <\/p>\n

1006
\n01:08:20,800 –> 01:08:23,920
\nSo when Jesus giving Peter the
\nkeys to the Kingdom, he’s saying<\/p>\n

1007
\n01:08:23,920 –> 01:08:27,000
\nthat Peter is being given the
\nresponsibility to open the door <\/p>\n

1008
\n01:08:27,000 –> 01:08:30,399
\nof the Kingdom based on the
\nfaithful statement that he just <\/p>\n

1009
\n01:08:30,399 –> 01:08:33,399
\nuttered.
\nNow, how do we know that this is<\/p>\n

1010
\n01:08:33,399 –> 01:08:36,319
\nwhat Jesus understands when he
\nuses the word key? <\/p>\n

1011
\n01:08:36,560 –> 01:08:39,240
\nHow do we know that Jesus is
\nusing the word key about <\/p>\n

1012
\n01:08:39,240 –> 01:08:42,640
\nunderstanding things, about
\nunderstanding the kind of things<\/p>\n

1013
\n01:08:42,640 –> 01:08:46,680
\nthat Peter had just said about
\nwho Jesus really was? <\/p>\n

1014
\n01:08:46,680 –> 01:08:49,640
\nBecause Jesus is going to use
\nthe word key himself in Luke <\/p>\n

1015
\n01:08:49,640 –> 01:08:52,800
\nChapter 11 verse 52, which is a
\ngood cross reference to have in <\/p>\n

1016
\n01:08:52,800 –> 01:08:54,240
\nyour margin if you haven’t
\nalready. <\/p>\n

1017
\n01:08:54,479 –> 01:08:57,640
\nNext to this verse where he says
\nwhy won’t you lawyers for ye <\/p>\n

1018
\n01:08:57,640 –> 01:08:59,600
\nhave taken away the key of
\nknowledge. <\/p>\n

1019
\n01:08:59,840 –> 01:09:03,920
\nSo the key is knowledge.
\nWhat is knowledge do it unlocks <\/p>\n

1020
\n01:09:03,920 –> 01:09:08,560
\nthings and and the problem with
\nthe lawyers is that ye entered <\/p>\n

1021
\n01:09:08,560 –> 01:09:12,279
\nnot in yourselves and you’re
\nkeeping keeping them that were <\/p>\n

1022
\n01:09:12,279 –> 01:09:18,600
\nentering hindered so so having
\nknowledge and refusing to pass <\/p>\n

1023
\n01:09:18,600 –> 01:09:21,960
\nit on or passing on the wrong
\nknowledge is refusing to open a <\/p>\n

1024
\n01:09:21,960 –> 01:09:23,800
\ndoor so that people can come
\nthrough. <\/p>\n

1025
\n01:09:23,800 –> 01:09:26,680
\nIt’s hindering them.
\nSo this is how Jesus understood,<\/p>\n

1026
\n01:09:26,680 –> 01:09:30,760
\nunderstands what a key is.
\nAnd in Acts chapter 2, what <\/p>\n

1027
\n01:09:30,760 –> 01:09:34,399
\nhappens is that Peter stands up
\nthe day of Pentecost and he <\/p>\n

1028
\n01:09:34,399 –> 01:09:37,120
\npreaches the gospel for the
\nfirst time and he gives them <\/p>\n

1029
\n01:09:37,120 –> 01:09:40,240
\nknowledge about Jesus, about his
\ndeath and resurrection, and <\/p>\n

1030
\n01:09:40,240 –> 01:09:41,840
\nabout the hope of the Kingdom of
\nGod. <\/p>\n

1031
\n01:09:42,840 –> 01:09:46,359
\nIt says there in in Acts chapter
\n2, verse 36. <\/p>\n

1032
\n01:09:46,520 –> 01:09:49,800
\nTherefore let all the House of
\nIsrael know assuredly that God <\/p>\n

1033
\n01:09:49,800 –> 01:09:54,320
\nhath made that same Jesus whom
\nyou crucified, both the Lord and<\/p>\n

1034
\n01:09:54,320 –> 01:09:56,640
\nChrist.
\nAnd thousands of people respond <\/p>\n

1035
\n01:09:56,640 –> 01:10:00,480
\nand repent and are baptized and
\nJesus, excuse me, Peter has just<\/p>\n

1036
\n01:10:00,480 –> 01:10:05,520
\nunlocked the Kingdom for them.
\nAnd then in Acts 10, Peter uses <\/p>\n

1037
\n01:10:05,520 –> 01:10:07,640
\nthe keys again, this time for
\nthe Gentiles. <\/p>\n

1038
\n01:10:07,640 –> 01:10:10,960
\nHe goes to Cornelius and he
\npreaches the gospel and suddenly<\/p>\n

1039
\n01:10:10,960 –> 01:10:13,400
\nthe doors open for people that
\naren’t Jews to come into the <\/p>\n

1040
\n01:10:13,400 –> 01:10:16,000
\nKingdom.
\nSo when Jesus says Peter will <\/p>\n

1041
\n01:10:16,000 –> 01:10:19,360
\nhave the keys, disciples would
\nunderstand that if Peter has <\/p>\n

1042
\n01:10:19,360 –> 01:10:22,920
\nbeen given the responsibility to
\nopen the way for others to have <\/p>\n

1043
\n01:10:22,960 –> 01:10:25,840
\naccess to the Kingdom through
\nthe gospel message, through the <\/p>\n

1044
\n01:10:25,840 –> 01:10:29,640
\nknowledge of the gospel message
\nbased on that same faithful <\/p>\n

1045
\n01:10:29,640 –> 01:10:32,880
\nconfession.
\nThis is how John Thomas puts it <\/p>\n

1046
\n01:10:32,880 –> 01:10:35,320
\nin Alpis Israel.
\nHe says if a reader peruse the <\/p>\n

1047
\n01:10:35,320 –> 01:10:39,200
\nsecond chapter of Acts, he
\nlearned there how Peter used one<\/p>\n

1048
\n01:10:39,200 –> 01:10:42,320
\nof the keys of the Kingdom given
\nto him by its king. <\/p>\n

1049
\n01:10:43,160 –> 01:10:46,120
\nOn that occasion, I say he used
\none of the keys. <\/p>\n

1050
\n01:10:46,360 –> 01:10:52,480
\nHe revealed the mystery of the
\ngospel of God’s Kingdom to the <\/p>\n

1051
\n01:10:52,480 –> 01:10:55,080
\nJews.
\nSo what’s the point there? <\/p>\n

1052
\n01:10:55,680 –> 01:11:00,360
\nThe point there is that the keys
\nrepresent knowledge of the <\/p>\n

1053
\n01:11:00,360 –> 01:11:05,120
\ngospel and the authority to
\nproclaim it, and that’s what <\/p>\n

1054
\n01:11:05,160 –> 01:11:07,440
\nJesus was granting.
\nBut what about binding and <\/p>\n

1055
\n01:11:07,440 –> 01:11:10,760
\nloosing?
\nWell, binding and loosing was <\/p>\n

1056
\n01:11:10,760 –> 01:11:14,360
\nactually a common phrase in
\nJewish culture and had to do <\/p>\n

1057
\n01:11:14,360 –> 01:11:17,600
\nwith making decisions about what
\nwas allowed or not allowed. <\/p>\n

1058
\n01:11:18,160 –> 01:11:22,480
\nSo things that are bound are
\nforbidden and things that are <\/p>\n

1059
\n01:11:22,480 –> 01:11:27,240
\nloose are permitted.
\nSo what happened is the Jewish <\/p>\n

1060
\n01:11:27,240 –> 01:11:30,760
\nrabbis would go look at the
\nscriptures and they’d, they’d <\/p>\n

1061
\n01:11:30,760 –> 01:11:34,480
\nlook at the law of Moses.
\nAnd if I’m a rabbi and, and I <\/p>\n

1062
\n01:11:34,480 –> 01:11:36,960
\nhave disciples around me and
\nmaybe they’re even sitting at my<\/p>\n

1063
\n01:11:36,960 –> 01:11:41,640
\nfeet and I’m discussing with
\nthem a passage from the from the<\/p>\n

1064
\n01:11:41,640 –> 01:11:43,680
\nlaw.
\nAnd I would look at that passage<\/p>\n

1065
\n01:11:43,800 –> 01:11:49,280
\nand I would either bind them to
\nobey certain interpretations of <\/p>\n

1066
\n01:11:49,280 –> 01:11:51,360
\nthat.
\nSo let me take an example. <\/p>\n

1067
\n01:11:52,160 –> 01:11:55,280
\nLet’s say that that I look at
\nthe at the passage that says you<\/p>\n

1068
\n01:11:55,280 –> 01:11:57,800
\nshall not boil a kid in its
\nmother’s milk. <\/p>\n

1069
\n01:11:59,720 –> 01:12:03,720
\nNow I might then interpret that
\nand say, not only are you not to<\/p>\n

1070
\n01:12:03,720 –> 01:12:08,640
\nshow cruelty to animals, but I
\nbind you to never eat milk and <\/p>\n

1071
\n01:12:08,640 –> 01:12:11,800
\nmeat together because you can
\nnever tell when what’s the milk <\/p>\n

1072
\n01:12:11,800 –> 01:12:16,040
\nfrom the mother or from the kid.
\nNow what I’ve done is that’s <\/p>\n

1073
\n01:12:16,040 –> 01:12:18,240
\nvery that’s my own
\ninterpretation, of course, but <\/p>\n

1074
\n01:12:18,240 –> 01:12:22,080
\nI’m binding my disciples that
\nthey have to follow that. <\/p>\n

1075
\n01:12:22,080 –> 01:12:25,880
\nAnd another rabbi might come and
\nsay, well, that’s not necessary <\/p>\n

1076
\n01:12:25,880 –> 01:12:26,920
\nat all.
\nIt means this. <\/p>\n

1077
\n01:12:27,040 –> 01:12:30,120
\nAnd so I’m losing my disciples
\nfrom following the <\/p>\n

1078
\n01:12:30,120 –> 01:12:34,400
\ninterpretations of that one.
\nSo this is now you will know <\/p>\n

1079
\n01:12:34,400 –> 01:12:39,960
\nthis because in Matthew chapter
\n23, and I think verse 4, Jesus <\/p>\n

1080
\n01:12:39,960 –> 01:12:44,920
\nsays to about the Pharisees, you
\nbind burdens grievous to be <\/p>\n

1081
\n01:12:44,920 –> 01:12:47,000
\nborn.
\nRemember that passage? <\/p>\n

1082
\n01:12:47,120 –> 01:12:49,160
\nYou bind burdens grievous to be
\nborn. <\/p>\n

1083
\n01:12:49,280 –> 01:12:52,680
\nAnd that’s the idea you look at
\nthe law of Moses, you interpret <\/p>\n

1084
\n01:12:52,680 –> 01:12:55,320
\nit more stringently than God
\neven intended. <\/p>\n

1085
\n01:12:56,080 –> 01:12:59,320
\nAnd on that basis, you you take
\nyour interpretations and you <\/p>\n

1086
\n01:12:59,320 –> 01:13:03,720
\nbind them on your disciples.
\nSo they have to follow your <\/p>\n

1087
\n01:13:03,720 –> 01:13:06,760
\ninterpretation.
\nAnd of course that makes you <\/p>\n

1088
\n01:13:06,760 –> 01:13:10,240
\nvery important.
\nAnd so you bind these burdens <\/p>\n

1089
\n01:13:10,400 –> 01:13:12,120
\ngrievous to be borne.
\nSo what? <\/p>\n

1090
\n01:13:12,120 –> 01:13:15,040
\nWhat exactly does that mean in
\nterms of Jesus saying what you <\/p>\n

1091
\n01:13:15,040 –> 01:13:17,800
\nbind on earth shall be bound in
\nheaven, What you loosen earth <\/p>\n

1092
\n01:13:18,000 –> 01:13:22,280
\nshall be loosed in heaven?
\nWell, first of all, Ettersheim <\/p>\n

1093
\n01:13:22,600 –> 01:13:26,640
\nin his Life and Times of Jesus
\nthe Messiah, book 2 chapter 5, <\/p>\n

1094
\n01:13:26,640 –> 01:13:29,600
\nsays the same.
\nTo bind and loose was simply to <\/p>\n

1095
\n01:13:29,600 –> 01:13:33,680
\nforbid or to permit.
\nAnd in the rabbinic age, usage <\/p>\n

1096
\n01:13:33,680 –> 01:13:38,320
\nof the words, the binding or the
\nloosening all had had always <\/p>\n

1097
\n01:13:38,320 –> 01:13:41,120
\nultimate reference to the
\nobservance or non observance of <\/p>\n

1098
\n01:13:41,120 –> 01:13:45,280
\ncertain laws, traditions or
\ncustoms as interpreted by the <\/p>\n

1099
\n01:13:45,280 –> 01:13:50,520
\nauthority of the rabbi’s.
\nSo what’s Jesus saying? <\/p>\n

1100
\n01:13:50,520 –> 01:13:53,960
\nHe’s giving to Peter and by
\nextension in Matthew 18, all the<\/p>\n

1101
\n01:13:53,960 –> 01:13:56,040
\napostles.
\nHe’s giving them the authority <\/p>\n

1102
\n01:13:56,040 –> 01:14:00,840
\nto make decisions to forbid and
\npermit in how they interpret <\/p>\n

1103
\n01:14:00,840 –> 01:14:05,200
\nScripture, but he’s not giving
\nit to them this power in a <\/p>\n

1104
\n01:14:05,200 –> 01:14:07,640
\nvacuum.
\nHe’s not saying they can just <\/p>\n

1105
\n01:14:07,640 –> 01:14:10,400
\nmake things up as they go.
\nHe’s saying that authority <\/p>\n

1106
\n01:14:10,560 –> 01:14:14,520
\nderives and accords with heaven.
\nIt’s about applying the <\/p>\n

1107
\n01:14:14,520 –> 01:14:16,640
\nprinciples of the gospel in real
\nlife situations. <\/p>\n

1108
\n01:14:16,640 –> 01:14:17,800
\nWell, let me give you an
\nexample. <\/p>\n

1109
\n01:14:17,960 –> 01:14:19,760
\nLet’s look at the example of
\nActs 15. <\/p>\n

1110
\n01:14:20,560 –> 01:14:22,760
\nWhat happened in Acts 15?
\nWe have the the issue of <\/p>\n

1111
\n01:14:22,760 –> 01:14:26,040
\ncircumcision and does every
\nbeliever in Christ have to be <\/p>\n

1112
\n01:14:26,040 –> 01:14:29,360
\ncircumcised?
\nAnd what the, what the, what <\/p>\n

1113
\n01:14:29,360 –> 01:14:33,720
\nthey, the apostles figured out
\nin Acts chapter 15 was that, <\/p>\n

1114
\n01:14:35,360 –> 01:14:38,320
\nthat they loosed the requirement
\nof circumcision for the <\/p>\n

1115
\n01:14:38,320 –> 01:14:42,600
\nGentiles, but they bound the,
\nthe Gentiles to not commit <\/p>\n

1116
\n01:14:42,600 –> 01:14:45,520
\nfornication or, or eat things
\nstrangled or things with blood, <\/p>\n

1117
\n01:14:46,040 –> 01:14:47,840
\nright?
\nSo, or eat meat offered to <\/p>\n

1118
\n01:14:47,840 –> 01:14:51,040
\nidols.
\nSo they bound them with certain <\/p>\n

1119
\n01:14:51,040 –> 01:14:52,760
\nthings and they loosed other
\nthings. <\/p>\n

1120
\n01:14:52,880 –> 01:14:55,440
\nNow they didn’t do that in
\ncontradiction to heaven. <\/p>\n

1121
\n01:14:55,600 –> 01:14:57,320
\nThey did that in accord with
\nheaven. <\/p>\n

1122
\n01:14:58,040 –> 01:15:00,920
\nThat was already heaven’s
\ndecision and the disciples were <\/p>\n

1123
\n01:15:00,920 –> 01:15:08,120
\napplying now on earth.
\nSo .14 is simply this binding <\/p>\n

1124
\n01:15:08,120 –> 01:15:10,400
\nand loosening refers the
\napostles authority to make <\/p>\n

1125
\n01:15:10,400 –> 01:15:13,120
\nbinding decisions about the
\napplication of the gospel, <\/p>\n

1126
\n01:15:13,560 –> 01:15:17,200
\nguided by the Holy Spirit and
\naligned with God’s will. <\/p>\n

1127
\n01:15:18,040 –> 01:15:20,440
\nI have a lot more to say about
\nthat, but we’ll leave that to <\/p>\n

1128
\n01:15:20,440 –> 01:15:23,520
\nthe next class.
\nSo if you’re a disciple <\/p>\n

1129
\n01:15:23,520 –> 01:15:28,000
\nlistening to Jesus say this,
\nwhat you’re hearing is that <\/p>\n

1130
\n01:15:28,000 –> 01:15:31,720
\nPeter’s being given authority to
\npreach the gospel and make <\/p>\n

1131
\n01:15:31,720 –> 01:15:35,880
\ndecisions about how to interpret
\nScripture that accords with <\/p>\n

1132
\n01:15:35,880 –> 01:15:38,960
\nheaven.
\nAnd that’s a big responsibility.<\/p>\n

1133
\n01:15:39,800 –> 01:15:43,000
\nIt’s not about personal power or
\ncontrol. <\/p>\n

1134
\n01:15:43,520 –> 01:15:45,840
\nIt’s about being a faithful
\nsteward to the message that <\/p>\n

1135
\n01:15:45,840 –> 01:15:48,000
\nJesus has entrusted to them.
\nIt’s not just Peter. <\/p>\n

1136
\n01:15:48,200 –> 01:15:51,760
\nThe authority in Matthew 18
\nverse 18 is given to all the <\/p>\n

1137
\n01:15:51,760 –> 01:15:55,840
\napostles.
\nWell, how does that help us <\/p>\n

1138
\n01:15:55,840 –> 01:15:59,280
\ntoday?
\nWell, firstly, the keys to the <\/p>\n

1139
\n01:15:59,280 –> 01:16:02,840
\nKingdom are still here because
\nthe keys of the Kingdom are the <\/p>\n

1140
\n01:16:02,840 –> 01:16:05,000
\ngospel message.
\nAnd every time we open our <\/p>\n

1141
\n01:16:05,000 –> 01:16:08,360
\nBibles and every time we share
\nthe truth about God’s Kingdom <\/p>\n

1142
\n01:16:08,360 –> 01:16:11,280
\nand the name of the Lord Jesus
\nChrist, we’re using the keys <\/p>\n

1143
\n01:16:12,280 –> 01:16:15,120
\nbecause we’re showing someone
\nwho’s outside of salvation the <\/p>\n

1144
\n01:16:15,120 –> 01:16:18,320
\nway to salvation.
\nSo the keys are still here. <\/p>\n

1145
\n01:16:19,240 –> 01:16:22,200
\nAnd secondly, the idea of
\nbinding and loosening reminds us<\/p>\n

1146
\n01:16:22,360 –> 01:16:25,160
\nthat the apostles did have the
\nauthority to interpret <\/p>\n

1147
\n01:16:25,160 –> 01:16:27,040
\nScripture.
\nSo if we look in the New <\/p>\n

1148
\n01:16:27,040 –> 01:16:30,440
\nTestament young people and we
\nsee the apostles interpret <\/p>\n

1149
\n01:16:30,440 –> 01:16:33,600
\nScripture, somehow they’re doing
\nthat with heaven’s authority. <\/p>\n

1150
\n01:16:35,320 –> 01:16:40,120
\nAnd so their interpretations are
\nstill binding on us today. <\/p>\n

1151
\n01:16:42,400 –> 01:16:46,720
\nWe are still bound by how the
\napostles interpreted the <\/p>\n

1152
\n01:16:46,720 –> 01:16:48,480
\nScriptures.
\nSo we want to understand, how do<\/p>\n

1153
\n01:16:48,520 –> 01:16:50,680
\nI understand the Scriptures?
\nLook at the New Testament, well,<\/p>\n

1154
\n01:16:50,680 –> 01:16:55,400
\nhow do they understand them?
\nAnd if they bind us to certain <\/p>\n

1155
\n01:16:56,000 –> 01:16:59,560
\nresponsibilities, whether they
\nbe moral laws or they be <\/p>\n

1156
\n01:16:59,560 –> 01:17:02,760
\ncultural laws, we are still
\nbound by those things today. <\/p>\n

1157
\n01:17:07,800 –> 01:17:10,040
\nSo .15 is this.
\nThis is our last point. <\/p>\n

1158
\n01:17:11,200 –> 01:17:15,280
\nWe have the key to unlock the
\ntruth of Jesus identity and the <\/p>\n

1159
\n01:17:15,280 –> 01:17:18,040
\nresponsibility to live by what
\nthe apostles have taught, <\/p>\n

1160
\n01:17:18,760 –> 01:17:25,520
\nhelping others to do the same.
\nBut once the keys were used to <\/p>\n

1161
\n01:17:25,520 –> 01:17:29,080
\nopen the doors, the doors
\nremained open. <\/p>\n

1162
\n01:17:31,840 –> 01:17:34,720
\nSee, it wasn’t for Peter to open
\nthe door and then shut the door <\/p>\n

1163
\n01:17:34,720 –> 01:17:36,880
\nor open the door.
\nThen that’s what the Catholics <\/p>\n

1164
\n01:17:36,880 –> 01:17:39,480
\nthink He can open or shut it,
\nopen or shut it open or shut it.<\/p>\n

1165
\n01:17:40,160 –> 01:17:42,200
\nSee what Peter did is he opened
\nand they stayed open. <\/p>\n

1166
\n01:17:42,960 –> 01:17:46,240
\nThis is what John Thomas says in
\nHelp Us Israel, Part 1, chapter <\/p>\n

1167
\n01:17:46,240 –> 01:17:48,680
\n3.
\nWhen he had accomplished this <\/p>\n

1168
\n01:17:48,680 –> 01:17:51,600
\nwork with the Gentiles through
\nCornelius, Peter no longer <\/p>\n

1169
\n01:17:51,600 –> 01:17:55,000
\nretained the power of the keys.
\nThey were transferred to the <\/p>\n

1170
\n01:17:55,000 –> 01:17:57,080
\nmultitude of believing Jews and
\nGentiles. <\/p>\n

1171
\n01:17:57,320 –> 01:18:01,680
\nThe keys became the common
\nproperty of all believers. <\/p>\n

1172
\n01:18:03,280 –> 01:18:05,880
\nSo Jesus was giving the apostles
\nthe authority to lay the <\/p>\n

1173
\n01:18:05,880 –> 01:18:11,600
\nfoundation of the ecclesia.
\nBut the work they started now <\/p>\n

1174
\n01:18:11,600 –> 01:18:16,520
\ncontinues.
\nWhat I’m saying to you is this, <\/p>\n

1175
\n01:18:18,400 –> 01:18:19,920
\nfrom the sisters, we have the
\nkeys. <\/p>\n

1176
\n01:18:22,040 –> 01:18:26,880
\nWe’ve been entrusted with the
\nmessage, the message that Jesus <\/p>\n

1177
\n01:18:26,880 –> 01:18:28,360
\nChrist is the Son of the living
\nGod. <\/p>\n

1178
\n01:18:29,520 –> 01:18:32,240
\nIt’s only on that basis that God
\nbuilds his ecclesia. <\/p>\n

1179
\n01:18:33,200 –> 01:18:37,920
\nAnd it’s our job, with heaven’s
\nhelp, to continue building that <\/p>\n

1180
\n01:18:37,920 –> 01:18:43,560
\necclesia where God can dwell,
\nusing the keys to unlock the way<\/p>\n

1181
\n01:18:43,560 –> 01:18:48,480
\nof salvation to others.
\nAnd it’s a reminder to stay <\/p>\n

1182
\n01:18:48,480 –> 01:18:54,920
\nfaithful to what the apostles
\nhave done in interpreting the <\/p>\n

1183
\n01:18:54,920 –> 01:19:01,520
\nlaw and to share that with
\nothers around us. <\/p>\n

1184
\n01:19:02,200 –> 01:19:06,040
\nAnd that’s the expectation.
\nTake the keys, open the door, <\/p>\n

1185
\n01:19:06,800 –> 01:19:08,640
\nand help others to find the way
\nto the Kingdom. <\/p>\n

1186
\n01:19:09,800 –> 01:19:11,440
\nAnd I’m a little bit over, so
\nI’ll stop there. <\/p>\n

1187
\n01:19:11,440 –> 01:19:28,160
\nThank you.
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\n01:19:28,160 –> 01:19:29,760
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\n01:19:33,040 –> 01:19:35,400
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397: Ben Brinkerhoff – Who Do you Say That I Am?<\/a><\/blockquote>