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\nstarted here at all.
\nThat’s sort of nice to see. <\/p>\n
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\nGood on you mate.
\nAs they say over there, we just <\/p>\n
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\nhad a great time with some of
\nthe folks in your old local area<\/p>\n
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\nhere up at the VIBC over the
\nlast week or so and that was a <\/p>\n
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\nlot of fun getting to know some
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\nSo now at least when we come up
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\naudience and at least see some
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\nThat’s always fun.
\nActually, up at VIBC, they <\/p>\n
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\nangels, which is one of my <\/p>\n
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\nfavorite subjects to talk on.
\nAnd then here you picked the <\/p>\n
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\nsubject of God’s plan of
\nredemption, which is my other <\/p>\n
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\nfavorite subject to talk about.
\nSo up here, you guys must know <\/p>\n
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\nwhat I’m thinking.
\nThese are great subjects and <\/p>\n
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\nreally they’re fun to talk about
\nbecause I’ve actually found <\/p>\n
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\ngoing back over my life and
\nlooking at different studies <\/p>\n
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\nI’ve done in the Bible, that if
\nI were to rank all the different<\/p>\n
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\nBible studies we’ve done over
\nthe years in terms of which ones<\/p>\n
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\nhad the greatest impact in
\nchanging my life, then certainly<\/p>\n
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\nGod’s redemptive plan would be
\non the top of the list. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd the angels would be second
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\nThose are two studies that I
\nfound personally that had a <\/p>\n
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\ngreater impact in my life than
\nany other Bible subject I’ve <\/p>\n
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\nlooked at.
\nAnd hopefully today we’ll get a <\/p>\n
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\nchance to share, share some of
\nthat with you and finish that <\/p>\n
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\noff tomorrow in the Sunday
\nschool class and then finally in<\/p>\n
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\nthe excitation tomorrow.
\nBut I can still remember one <\/p>\n
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\ntime where we had a, a Bible, We
\nhad a Bible series at the <\/p>\n
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\nHanover Bible School one year
\nand we had Brother Mansfield <\/p>\n
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\nthere and Brother Tennant and I
\nthink Brother Victoria Stone was<\/p>\n
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\nthere from California.
\nAnd all three of them spoke in <\/p>\n
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\nthe evening program on the
\natonement, atonement. <\/p>\n
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\nWe were going to have a
\npresentation. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd Brother Harry Tennant was
\nthe last to go on the Wednesday <\/p>\n
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\nnight.
\nAnd it was interesting, he got <\/p>\n
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\nup and he talked about the
\natonement. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I can still remember the
\nvery first thing he said after <\/p>\n
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\ntwo good talks on the atonement.
\nHe told us, he said, you know, <\/p>\n
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\nbrothers and sisters, he said
\nany, any talk on the atonement <\/p>\n
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\nthat doesn’t begin and end with
\nthe love of God has missed a <\/p>\n
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\nhuge part of the atonement.
\nAnd we had really missed that <\/p>\n
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\nthese years that it’s very easy
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\nthis subject.
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\nsometimes when you hear about
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\nredemptive plan, some of us sort
\nof cringe and think, oh, no, <\/p>\n
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\nhear something that’s
\ncontroversial and all that. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd, and really the subject was
\nnever supposed to be that way. <\/p>\n
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\nThis is supposed to be the most
\nmotivating subject of anything <\/p>\n
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\nGod could talk to us about that
\nis supposed to change our life. <\/p>\n
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\nThis is supposed to be the most
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\nThis is the first principle <\/p>\n
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\nAnd he designed it in such a way
\nthat this would motivate us to <\/p>\n
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\njoin his son in living a life
\nthat would be so pleasing to God<\/p>\n
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\nfamily forever. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s what this subject is
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\nlove of God and what he has
\ndesigned for us. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd when you go back, a lot of
\nthis is basic first principles <\/p>\n
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\nWhen you go back and look at the<\/p>\n
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\nmistake that Adam and Eve made
\nwhen they sin, really God didn’t<\/p>\n
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\nthem. <\/p>\n
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\nEve and started over. <\/p>\n
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\nour Bibles is the love that God
\nhas for us and how he designed <\/p>\n
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\nYou find some common Bible <\/p>\n
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\nyour head in first John four and<\/p>\n
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\naway this is given as motivation<\/p>\n
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\nHow do you treat brothers and
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\nAll we got to do is look into
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\nAnd then our goal is to model
\nour life after him. <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s what we should do.
\nThe amazing part about our God, <\/p>\n
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\nbrothers and sisters, is that He
\nloved us when we weren’t worth <\/p>\n
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\nloving.
\nIt’s one thing to love somebody <\/p>\n
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\nloved us in the 1st place. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd you, if you find like as a
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\nyou find out really loves you <\/p>\n
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\nImagine learning to love people <\/p>\n
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\nPeople who by the Bible calls <\/p>\n
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\nungodly, they’re sinners,
\nthey’re unjust. <\/p>\n
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\nWell, that’s what God did you
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\nAll had sinned and fallen short <\/p>\n
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\nThat what God did at that point <\/p>\n
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\nstrength in Romans 5 at verse 6,<\/p>\n
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\nin due time Christ died for the
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\nThat’s us, or scarcely.
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\none die?
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\ngood, you, you might even dare
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\nbreath and I’ll do it for them <\/p>\n
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\nBut God, that’s not what he did.<\/p>\n
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\nother people.
\nThat’s what it was supposed to <\/p>\n
336
\n00:17:14,280 –> 00:17:15,760
\ndo.
\nAnd you can see how our New <\/p>\n
337
\n00:17:15,760 –> 00:17:18,760
\nTestament writers used it, you
\nsee in Second Corinthians <\/p>\n
338
\n00:17:18,760 –> 00:17:21,200
\nchapter 5 and Paul’s second
\nletter to them when he talks <\/p>\n
339
\n00:17:21,200 –> 00:17:25,200
\nabout the love of Christ
\ncompelling us that this is not <\/p>\n
340
\n00:17:25,200 –> 00:17:29,840
\nacademics, this is meaningful,
\nthis is life changing, that the <\/p>\n
341
\n00:17:29,840 –> 00:17:34,280
\nlove of Christ compels us
\nbecause we judge thus that if <\/p>\n
342
\n00:17:34,280 –> 00:17:39,640
\none died for all, then all died.
\nHe didn’t die as our substitute.<\/p>\n
343
\n00:17:39,640 –> 00:17:41,920
\nAnd and we’ve got that right,
\nbrothers and sisters, and we’re <\/p>\n
344
\n00:17:41,920 –> 00:17:44,920
\nright to to argue that case and
\nfight that with the churches of <\/p>\n
345
\n00:17:44,920 –> 00:17:48,560
\nthis world.
\nOh no, that if one died, he died<\/p>\n
346
\n00:17:48,680 –> 00:17:52,960
\nas an example that all of us
\nwould follow in his steps. <\/p>\n
347
\n00:17:53,200 –> 00:17:57,840
\nIf one died, then all died.
\nWe have all died to sin. <\/p>\n
348
\n00:17:58,400 –> 00:18:01,800
\nWe’re going to put it behind us.
\nWe’re no longer slaves of sin, <\/p>\n
349
\n00:18:01,800 –> 00:18:06,840
\nbut we become slaves of God and
\nhe died for all in verse 15 that<\/p>\n
350
\n00:18:07,400 –> 00:18:10,680
\nthose who live see, see how they
\ntake this subject and they <\/p>\n
351
\n00:18:10,680 –> 00:18:14,240
\nimmediately go from just an
\nacademic understanding to where <\/p>\n
352
\n00:18:14,280 –> 00:18:16,600
\nthis is meaningful to how you
\nlive. <\/p>\n
353
\n00:18:17,360 –> 00:18:20,680
\nThey died for us so that those
\nwho live should no longer live <\/p>\n
354
\n00:18:20,680 –> 00:18:23,680
\nfor themselves.
\nYou can’t live for yourself <\/p>\n
355
\n00:18:23,680 –> 00:18:25,360
\nanymore.
\nYou, you’ve died. <\/p>\n
356
\n00:18:25,360 –> 00:18:27,640
\nThe old man is dead.
\nHe’s buried in baptism. <\/p>\n
357
\n00:18:27,640 –> 00:18:31,320
\nWe walked out thankful to God
\nthat we now can live a different<\/p>\n
358
\n00:18:31,320 –> 00:18:35,040
\nlife, no longer enslaved to sin.
\nSo they no longer live for <\/p>\n
359
\n00:18:35,040 –> 00:18:39,120
\nthemselves, but for him who died
\nand rose again. <\/p>\n
360
\n00:18:39,160 –> 00:18:41,560
\nWe live for Christ.
\nWe’re not slaves of Christ. <\/p>\n
361
\n00:18:41,800 –> 00:18:45,240
\nWe’re no longer slaves of sin.
\nSo this subject, what it’s <\/p>\n
362
\n00:18:45,240 –> 00:18:49,320
\nsupposed to do is change how we
\ntreat our spouse, change how we <\/p>\n
363
\n00:18:49,320 –> 00:18:52,440
\ntreat our children, change how
\nwe treat our parents, how we <\/p>\n
364
\n00:18:52,440 –> 00:18:55,400
\ntreat our brethren and sisters
\nin a collegial life and their <\/p>\n
365
\n00:18:55,400 –> 00:18:58,640
\nfamilies and their children and
\nour neighbors at home and our <\/p>\n
366
\n00:18:58,640 –> 00:19:01,560
\nemployers and everybody the the
\ngoverning authorities. <\/p>\n
367
\n00:19:01,560 –> 00:19:05,280
\nIt’s, it’s all about how you
\nchange your perspective based on<\/p>\n
368
\n00:19:05,280 –> 00:19:08,240
\nwhat God has done for us.
\nAnd he’s hoping that it will <\/p>\n
369
\n00:19:08,240 –> 00:19:11,560
\nchange the way we live.
\nYou see, this is not just a New <\/p>\n
370
\n00:19:11,560 –> 00:19:13,840
\nTestament subject.
\nIt really starts way back in the<\/p>\n
371
\n00:19:13,840 –> 00:19:16,200
\nold, not just with Adam and Eve,
\nbut it comes up through the <\/p>\n
372
\n00:19:16,200 –> 00:19:18,800
\nprophets as well.
\nYou can see, for example, when <\/p>\n
373
\n00:19:18,800 –> 00:19:22,600
\nhe was talking when in Isaiah
\n43, when when God was trying to <\/p>\n
374
\n00:19:22,600 –> 00:19:25,480
\ncompel the Jews and help them
\nunderstand that there was no <\/p>\n
375
\n00:19:25,480 –> 00:19:27,520
\nother God.
\nThere wasn’t some God of good <\/p>\n
376
\n00:19:27,520 –> 00:19:30,120
\nand some God of evil.
\nThere wasn’t some God who brings<\/p>\n
377
\n00:19:30,120 –> 00:19:32,520
\ngood things to your life so that
\nwhen something good happens to <\/p>\n
378
\n00:19:32,520 –> 00:19:34,320
\nyour life, you get a job
\npromotion. <\/p>\n
379
\n00:19:34,640 –> 00:19:37,000
\nOr some of you young people, you
\nfinally decide that the girl <\/p>\n
380
\n00:19:37,000 –> 00:19:39,160
\nyou’ve been waiting for, she
\nfinally says yes. <\/p>\n
381
\n00:19:39,480 –> 00:19:42,040
\nAnd you get to get married.
\nOr somebody who’s looking for a <\/p>\n
382
\n00:19:42,040 –> 00:19:43,880
\njob and you’re out there
\nsearching in an area. <\/p>\n
383
\n00:19:43,880 –> 00:19:46,640
\nYou just moved here to this area
\nand looking for a job and all of<\/p>\n
384
\n00:19:46,640 –> 00:19:49,200
\na sudden an employer calls you
\nand offers you a job and you <\/p>\n
385
\n00:19:49,200 –> 00:19:51,200
\nthink, yes, God help me on that
\none. <\/p>\n
386
\n00:19:51,800 –> 00:19:54,840
\nBut it’s not just for the good,
\nit’s also in the bad. <\/p>\n
387
\n00:19:54,840 –> 00:19:57,960
\nGod’s in them both.
\nAs Solomon said in Ecclesiastes <\/p>\n
388
\n00:19:57,960 –> 00:20:00,520
\n9, don’t just say good things
\nabout God when good things <\/p>\n
389
\n00:20:00,520 –> 00:20:03,800
\nhappen, but remember he’s there
\nin the good and he’s there in <\/p>\n
390
\n00:20:03,800 –> 00:20:06,880
\nthe bad because he’s in control
\nof it all and he’s using those <\/p>\n
391
\n00:20:06,880 –> 00:20:09,880
\nthings.
\nSo in Isaiah 43, this is what <\/p>\n
392
\n00:20:09,880 –> 00:20:12,800
\nGod was dealing with with the
\nJews, is that this whole idea of<\/p>\n
393
\n00:20:12,800 –> 00:20:15,840
\na God of good, the God of evil
\nhad come into their community at<\/p>\n
394
\n00:20:15,840 –> 00:20:18,880
\nthat time back in the history.
\nAnd he says to them, You are my <\/p>\n
395
\n00:20:18,880 –> 00:20:22,080
\nwitnesses, says the Lord.
\nAnd my servant whom I have <\/p>\n
396
\n00:20:22,080 –> 00:20:26,280
\nchosen, that you may know and
\nbelieve me and understand that I<\/p>\n
397
\n00:20:26,280 –> 00:20:29,480
\nam he.
\nAnd before me there was no God <\/p>\n
398
\n00:20:29,480 –> 00:20:31,760
\nformed, nor shall there be after
\nme. <\/p>\n
399
\n00:20:32,200 –> 00:20:36,160
\nI even I am the Lord.
\nAnd beside me there is no <\/p>\n
400
\n00:20:36,160 –> 00:20:38,040
\nSavior.
\nThere is no other God, there’s <\/p>\n
401
\n00:20:38,040 –> 00:20:41,400
\nno Savior, there’s nothing.
\nI have declared and saved, I <\/p>\n
402
\n00:20:41,400 –> 00:20:43,760
\nhave proclaimed.
\nAnd there was no foreign God <\/p>\n
403
\n00:20:43,760 –> 00:20:47,120
\namong you.
\nTherefore, you are my witnesses,<\/p>\n
404
\n00:20:47,120 –> 00:20:50,840
\nsays the Lord, that I am God.
\nAnd you know, this is an <\/p>\n
405
\n00:20:50,840 –> 00:20:53,600
\ninteresting case because the
\nthese Jews at this point, they <\/p>\n
406
\n00:20:53,600 –> 00:20:56,840
\nfailed a lot of times in the
\nIsaiah’s day and afterward in <\/p>\n
407
\n00:20:56,840 –> 00:20:59,760
\nthe moment Hezekiah rallied the
\ntroops and he got them to <\/p>\n
408
\n00:20:59,760 –> 00:21:03,040
\nsupport Yahweh, their God.
\nBut then in years that came <\/p>\n
409
\n00:21:03,040 –> 00:21:06,400
\nafter that, there were some
\ndisasters and yet God still used<\/p>\n
410
\n00:21:06,400 –> 00:21:09,720
\nthem as His witnesses.
\nThey were the witnesses that He <\/p>\n
411
\n00:21:09,720 –> 00:21:12,800
\nhad picked this community.
\nHe had chosen Abraham and worked<\/p>\n
412
\n00:21:12,800 –> 00:21:16,440
\nwith him over all those years.
\nAnd even though they failed, and<\/p>\n
413
\n00:21:16,440 –> 00:21:19,400
\neven though they made mistake
\nafter mistake, and then king <\/p>\n
414
\n00:21:19,400 –> 00:21:22,400
\nafter king would arise who was
\nterrible and leading the <\/p>\n
415
\n00:21:22,400 –> 00:21:27,120
\ncommunity astray, God still was
\nwilling to work with the remnant<\/p>\n
416
\n00:21:27,120 –> 00:21:29,800
\nof this community because He had
\npromised Abraham. <\/p>\n
417
\n00:21:29,840 –> 00:21:33,400
\nHe loved Abraham and He loved
\nhis children and He promised <\/p>\n
418
\n00:21:33,400 –> 00:21:36,040
\nthat He would work with that
\nremnant and He would help them <\/p>\n
419
\n00:21:36,040 –> 00:21:38,160
\nunderstand and bring them into
\nHis family. <\/p>\n
420
\n00:21:38,520 –> 00:21:40,920
\nSo any study that we do,
\nbrothers and sisters of the <\/p>\n
421
\n00:21:40,920 –> 00:21:44,480
\natonement really does need to
\nstart and end with the love of <\/p>\n
422
\n00:21:44,480 –> 00:21:47,080
\nGod that that is.
\nIt’s sort of like the whole <\/p>\n
423
\n00:21:47,080 –> 00:21:51,240
\nframework is all built around
\nGod initiated it. <\/p>\n
424
\n00:21:51,400 –> 00:21:54,120
\nHe loved us and that’s what
\nstarted it all. <\/p>\n
425
\n00:21:55,120 –> 00:21:57,520
\nYou’ll find again in first
\nCorinthians in chapter 1 this <\/p>\n
426
\n00:21:57,520 –> 00:22:00,280
\ntime that I think it’s fun to
\nlook at the concept when Paul <\/p>\n
427
\n00:22:00,280 –> 00:22:03,800
\nwould would illustrate this idea
\nand say, I, I was going to know <\/p>\n
428
\n00:22:03,800 –> 00:22:06,200
\nnothing among you but Jesus
\nChrist and him crucified. <\/p>\n
429
\n00:22:06,600 –> 00:22:10,400
\nHe illustrated to the Chris to
\nthe the Corinthians in chapter 1<\/p>\n
430
\n00:22:10,600 –> 00:22:13,800
\nwhen he pointed out to them
\nabout an ecclesial life, why you<\/p>\n
431
\n00:22:13,800 –> 00:22:16,560
\nshouldn’t have factions, because
\nremember, this was an ecclesia <\/p>\n
432
\n00:22:16,560 –> 00:22:18,960
\nthat was split up.
\nYou know, I love Paul, I’m of <\/p>\n
433
\n00:22:18,960 –> 00:22:21,960
\nApollo, so I follow Cephas over
\nhere and and they they were <\/p>\n
434
\n00:22:21,960 –> 00:22:24,320
\nsplitting up into little
\nsegmented groups. <\/p>\n
435
\n00:22:24,760 –> 00:22:28,320
\nAnd so Paul would remind them
\nthat the way you overcome, that <\/p>\n
436
\n00:22:28,320 –> 00:22:30,960
\nthe way you get rid of these
\nfactions and this kind of <\/p>\n
437
\n00:22:30,960 –> 00:22:34,480
\nself-interest is to remember the
\natonement. <\/p>\n
438
\n00:22:34,800 –> 00:22:38,040
\nGo back and look at your roots.
\nWhat did God do for you? <\/p>\n
439
\n00:22:38,520 –> 00:22:43,760
\nAnd he reminds them in verse 27
\nthat God has chosen the foolish <\/p>\n
440
\n00:22:43,760 –> 00:22:48,720
\nthings of the world to shame the
\nwise, that God has chosen the <\/p>\n
441
\n00:22:48,720 –> 00:22:51,640
\nweak things of the world to
\nshame the things which are <\/p>\n
442
\n00:22:51,640 –> 00:22:55,000
\nmighty and the base things of
\nthe world and the things which <\/p>\n
443
\n00:22:55,000 –> 00:22:58,920
\nare despised.
\nGod has chosen and the things <\/p>\n
444
\n00:22:58,920 –> 00:23:02,000
\nwhich are not to bring to
\nnothing the things that are. <\/p>\n
445
\n00:23:02,280 –> 00:23:05,280
\nAnd why does he do that?
\nWhy does he pick the lowest <\/p>\n
446
\n00:23:05,280 –> 00:23:07,840
\nthings of this world?
\nWhy does he pick us? <\/p>\n
447
\n00:23:08,200 –> 00:23:10,920
\nWe’re not the best academic
\npeople out there in this world. <\/p>\n
448
\n00:23:11,000 –> 00:23:13,360
\nWe’re not the greatest usually
\nat anything. <\/p>\n
449
\n00:23:13,520 –> 00:23:15,600
\nWe’re not the richest.
\nWe’re not the wisest. <\/p>\n
450
\n00:23:15,760 –> 00:23:18,560
\nWe’re not the smartest.
\nWe’re not the best Craftsman. <\/p>\n
451
\n00:23:18,560 –> 00:23:21,400
\nWe’re not the best of anything.
\nThere’s all kinds of better <\/p>\n
452
\n00:23:21,400 –> 00:23:25,640
\npeople in this world today who
\nare better than us at all those <\/p>\n
453
\n00:23:25,640 –> 00:23:28,800
\nthings.
\nSo why does he pick us? <\/p>\n
454
\n00:23:29,520 –> 00:23:33,920
\nWell, because by his election he
\nchose the low things of the <\/p>\n
455
\n00:23:33,920 –> 00:23:37,480
\nworld that no flesh should glory
\nin his presence. <\/p>\n
456
\n00:23:38,080 –> 00:23:41,000
\nAnd if that’s the case, we don’t
\never want to get on our high <\/p>\n
457
\n00:23:41,000 –> 00:23:44,400
\nhorse and ex leisure life or in
\nour families and put ourselves <\/p>\n
458
\n00:23:44,400 –> 00:23:46,240
\nup there higher than we really
\nshould be. <\/p>\n
459
\n00:23:46,480 –> 00:23:52,040
\nBecause God works with the low
\nand the weak and the base, the <\/p>\n
460
\n00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:55,960
\nungodly, the sinners, those are
\nthe people he works with to <\/p>\n
461
\n00:23:55,960 –> 00:23:59,360
\nbring into his family.
\nNot the wise, not the mighty, <\/p>\n
462
\n00:23:59,400 –> 00:24:01,960
\nnot the great.
\nOh no, they’ve got their own <\/p>\n
463
\n00:24:01,960 –> 00:24:05,040
\ngame plan.
\nBut God can use the low and the <\/p>\n
464
\n00:24:05,040 –> 00:24:08,720
\nbase and the weak because they
\nwill give him the glory. <\/p>\n
465
\n00:24:08,760 –> 00:24:10,040
\nAnd that’s what he’s looking
\nfor. <\/p>\n
466
\n00:24:10,240 –> 00:24:14,080
\nHe wants people that love Him
\nand who respond to his plan. <\/p>\n
467
\n00:24:14,360 –> 00:24:17,040
\nThat’s what the atonement is
\nreally all about, That there’s <\/p>\n
468
\n00:24:17,040 –> 00:24:22,480
\nno, no possibility of any human
\never boasting that look at what <\/p>\n
469
\n00:24:22,480 –> 00:24:25,920
\nI did in my family or my
\necclesia, or look what I <\/p>\n
470
\n00:24:25,920 –> 00:24:28,600
\naccomplished.
\nIt’s not about me, it’s all <\/p>\n
471
\n00:24:28,600 –> 00:24:31,240
\nabout God.
\nAnd so in Second Corinthians <\/p>\n
472
\n00:24:31,240 –> 00:24:34,440
\nchapter 5, when Paul again is
\nreflecting back on this and <\/p>\n
473
\n00:24:34,440 –> 00:24:38,520
\nwriting to them, he reminds them
\nabout the one who has prepared <\/p>\n
474
\n00:24:38,520 –> 00:24:41,360
\nus for eternity.
\nThis is all by design what God <\/p>\n
475
\n00:24:41,360 –> 00:24:42,600
\nis doing.
\nHe has a family. <\/p>\n
476
\n00:24:42,600 –> 00:24:46,080
\nHe’s getting ready and he’s
\ngetting ready to join his family<\/p>\n
477
\n00:24:46,080 –> 00:24:48,040
\nforever.
\nThat’s what he’s doing. <\/p>\n
478
\n00:24:48,440 –> 00:24:53,000
\nAnd so he who has prepared us
\nfor this very thing Paul says is<\/p>\n
479
\n00:24:53,000 –> 00:24:56,160
\nGod who has given us the Spirit
\nas a guarantee. <\/p>\n
480
\n00:24:56,800 –> 00:25:01,280
\nAnd in verse 18, now all things
\nare of God who has reconciled us<\/p>\n
481
\n00:25:01,280 –> 00:25:04,800
\nto himself through Jesus Christ
\nand has given us the ministry of<\/p>\n
482
\n00:25:04,800 –> 00:25:09,360
\nreconciliation.
\nThat is, that God was in Christ <\/p>\n
483
\n00:25:09,640 –> 00:25:13,720
\nreconciling the world to Himself
\nand not imputing their <\/p>\n
484
\n00:25:13,720 –> 00:25:17,080
\ntrespasses to them, and has
\ncommitted to us the word of <\/p>\n
485
\n00:25:17,080 –> 00:25:20,280
\nreconciliation which the apostle
\nPaul was committed to take <\/p>\n
486
\n00:25:20,280 –> 00:25:23,560
\naround the Roman world and to
\npreach to all those Gentiles. <\/p>\n
487
\n00:25:23,880 –> 00:25:27,080
\nBut you see how he understood
\nprobably more than any of us, <\/p>\n
488
\n00:25:27,080 –> 00:25:29,880
\nthat it was all about what God
\nhad done in his life. <\/p>\n
489
\n00:25:30,240 –> 00:25:34,120
\nAnd I think Paul probably got it
\nso well because in his own <\/p>\n
490
\n00:25:34,120 –> 00:25:37,040
\nefforts, he had studied at the
\nfeet of Gamaliel. <\/p>\n
491
\n00:25:37,240 –> 00:25:40,520
\nHe had done what he thought was
\nright, and he was researching <\/p>\n
492
\n00:25:40,520 –> 00:25:42,880
\nthe Bible.
\nHe searched the Scriptures, like<\/p>\n
493
\n00:25:42,960 –> 00:25:45,840
\nJesus said, because in them you
\nthink you have eternal life. <\/p>\n
494
\n00:25:46,000 –> 00:25:49,240
\nAnd Paul went through that whole
\nprocess of thinking he was going<\/p>\n
495
\n00:25:49,240 –> 00:25:52,360
\nto look good in God’s eyes.
\nI’m going to build myself into <\/p>\n
496
\n00:25:52,360 –> 00:25:54,800
\nsomebody that God will look at
\nand say, wow, you’re really <\/p>\n
497
\n00:25:54,800 –> 00:25:56,320
\nwonderful.
\nI want to save you. <\/p>\n
498
\n00:25:56,720 –> 00:26:00,360
\nAnd Paul went through this
\nprocess, and if Christ hadn’t <\/p>\n
499
\n00:26:00,360 –> 00:26:03,960
\nstopped them on the road to
\nDamascus, he’d be dead with no <\/p>\n
500
\n00:26:03,960 –> 00:26:06,560
\nhope of resurrection.
\nThat’s where he was headed. <\/p>\n
501
\n00:26:06,920 –> 00:26:10,320
\nAnd he realized that for all his
\nhuman efforts, they were a <\/p>\n
502
\n00:26:10,320 –> 00:26:12,600
\nwaste.
\nThey hadn’t gotten them anywhere<\/p>\n
503
\n00:26:12,840 –> 00:26:16,360
\nbecause he had failed to realize
\nthat it was really all about <\/p>\n
504
\n00:26:16,360 –> 00:26:19,840
\nwhat God was doing and that none
\nof us would ever be good in <\/p>\n
505
\n00:26:19,840 –> 00:26:23,240
\nGod’s eyes, but only
\nrighteousness could be imputed <\/p>\n
506
\n00:26:23,240 –> 00:26:25,600
\nto us from our heavenly Father
\nwho loves us. <\/p>\n
507
\n00:26:25,920 –> 00:26:29,360
\nAnd he came to understand that
\nprobably better than any of our <\/p>\n
508
\n00:26:29,360 –> 00:26:32,920
\nNew Testament writers because of
\nthe low position he had come <\/p>\n
509
\n00:26:32,920 –> 00:26:35,600
\nfrom in his own efforts.
\nAnd he realized what God had <\/p>\n
510
\n00:26:35,600 –> 00:26:37,880
\ndone in his life.
\nI, I look back at Paul, he’s <\/p>\n
511
\n00:26:37,880 –> 00:26:39,960
\namazed at the things that Christ
\nhad taught him. <\/p>\n
512
\n00:26:39,960 –> 00:26:42,240
\nAnd he did he, he specifically
\ntaught him when he was out in <\/p>\n
513
\n00:26:42,240 –> 00:26:44,440
\nArabia.
\nJesus Christ taught him the <\/p>\n
514
\n00:26:44,440 –> 00:26:47,600
\ntruth and he’s that’s why it’s
\nsuch an awesome exposition when <\/p>\n
515
\n00:26:47,600 –> 00:26:50,440
\nyou look at Paul’s letters.
\nNow, when you go back and look <\/p>\n
516
\n00:26:50,440 –> 00:26:52,600
\nat where we’ve all come from
\nthere and sisters, and you go <\/p>\n
517
\n00:26:52,600 –> 00:26:55,440
\nback to study this subject and
\nlooking at it’s always good to <\/p>\n
518
\n00:26:55,440 –> 00:26:57,320
\nnote like, where did it all
\nstart? <\/p>\n
519
\n00:26:57,560 –> 00:27:00,840
\nAnd so we do, we start back in
\nGenesis and look at what God did<\/p>\n
520
\n00:27:01,360 –> 00:27:04,680
\nin the beginning when Genesis,
\nin Genesis chapter 1, when God <\/p>\n
521
\n00:27:04,680 –> 00:27:08,760
\ndid the creation, when he made
\nour world, he saw everything. <\/p>\n
522
\n00:27:08,760 –> 00:27:11,880
\nAt the end of chapter chapter
\none at verse 31, he looked over <\/p>\n
523
\n00:27:11,880 –> 00:27:15,080
\neverything that he had made and
\nindeed it was very good. <\/p>\n
524
\n00:27:15,280 –> 00:27:17,960
\nAnd so the evening and the
\nmorning were the 6th day. <\/p>\n
525
\n00:27:18,000 –> 00:27:21,240
\nSo the the whole creation, all
\nthe things that he had created <\/p>\n
526
\n00:27:21,240 –> 00:27:24,760
\nat that point were very good.
\nBut then we know that what <\/p>\n
527
\n00:27:24,760 –> 00:27:27,920
\nhappens is Adam and Eve’s sin.
\nThings take place. <\/p>\n
528
\n00:27:28,200 –> 00:27:32,000
\nAnd now you look at this
\ncreation and you find in Genesis<\/p>\n
529
\n00:27:32,000 –> 00:27:35,640
\nchapter 6, after thousands of
\nyears have gone by, this case <\/p>\n
530
\n00:27:35,640 –> 00:27:38,200
\nyou have Noah in the flood.
\nAnd now we’re looking at in <\/p>\n
531
\n00:27:38,200 –> 00:27:42,640
\nGenesis 6, verse five, that this
\ntime the Lord saw that the <\/p>\n
532
\n00:27:42,640 –> 00:27:47,480
\nwickedness of man was great in
\nthe earth and that every intent <\/p>\n
533
\n00:27:47,840 –> 00:27:52,920
\nof the thoughts of his heart was
\nonly evil continually. <\/p>\n
534
\n00:27:53,560 –> 00:27:56,520
\nSomething’s changed.
\nThis isn’t what God saw when he <\/p>\n
535
\n00:27:56,520 –> 00:27:59,120
\nfirst looked and saw that it was
\nall good. <\/p>\n
536
\n00:27:59,520 –> 00:28:02,680
\nNow he looks across the world at
\nall the thousands of people, <\/p>\n
537
\n00:28:02,680 –> 00:28:05,040
\nmillions maybe that were alive
\nat the time of the flood. <\/p>\n
538
\n00:28:05,280 –> 00:28:09,760
\nAnd he realizes that now he sees
\na lot of wickedness, evil, it’s <\/p>\n
539
\n00:28:09,760 –> 00:28:13,680
\nnot so good anymore.
\nAnd that the, the imagination of<\/p>\n
540
\n00:28:13,680 –> 00:28:16,000
\ntheir their thoughts of his
\nheart, the intent of the <\/p>\n
541
\n00:28:16,000 –> 00:28:19,760
\nthoughts of the heart of man is
\nonly evil continually. <\/p>\n
542
\n00:28:19,920 –> 00:28:21,720
\nThat’s different than it was
\nbefore. <\/p>\n
543
\n00:28:22,280 –> 00:28:26,280
\nWhen Solomon talks about that in
\nEcclesiastes 7 at verse 29, he <\/p>\n
544
\n00:28:26,280 –> 00:28:30,760
\nmentions the fact that truly
\nthis only have I found that God <\/p>\n
545
\n00:28:30,800 –> 00:28:33,680
\nmade man upright.
\nHis brother Harry Tennett drew <\/p>\n
546
\n00:28:33,680 –> 00:28:34,960
\nhim on time with his stick
\ndrawings. <\/p>\n
547
\n00:28:34,960 –> 00:28:37,720
\nHe said this is the way God made
\nAdam and Eve originally. <\/p>\n
548
\n00:28:37,960 –> 00:28:41,560
\nAnd then what happened is they
\nbecame like that, but as Solomon<\/p>\n
549
\n00:28:41,560 –> 00:28:44,240
\nsays here, that God made man
\nupright. <\/p>\n
550
\n00:28:44,480 –> 00:28:48,280
\nBut they have sought out many
\nschemes and something changed <\/p>\n
551
\n00:28:48,280 –> 00:28:51,640
\nfrom Genesis 1 until Genesis
\nchapter 6. <\/p>\n
552
\n00:28:52,000 –> 00:28:54,000
\nAnd that’s what we want to look
\nat for a moment. <\/p>\n
553
\n00:28:54,320 –> 00:28:58,160
\nSo in Genesis chapter 3, when
\nthe serpent came to the woman, <\/p>\n
554
\n00:28:58,560 –> 00:29:01,840
\nhe said to the woman things that
\nwe know we’ve looked at before, <\/p>\n
555
\n00:29:01,840 –> 00:29:04,960
\nthat you will not surely die.
\nSo he says a lie. <\/p>\n
556
\n00:29:05,240 –> 00:29:07,120
\nHe was the originator of the
\nlies. <\/p>\n
557
\n00:29:07,320 –> 00:29:10,440
\nFor God knows it in the day that
\nyou eat of it, your eyes will be<\/p>\n
558
\n00:29:10,440 –> 00:29:12,920
\nopen and you will be like God
\nknowing good and evil. <\/p>\n
559
\n00:29:12,920 –> 00:29:14,960
\nAnd it was to him was like,
\nyou’ll be like the angels. <\/p>\n
560
\n00:29:14,960 –> 00:29:16,880
\nThe angels know good and evil.
\nYou’ll be like them. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:29:17,160 –> 00:29:19,280
\nYou’ll be like the Elohim that
\nwere walking around in the <\/p>\n
562
\n00:29:19,280 –> 00:29:21,920
\ngarden at the time.
\nAnd so when the woman saw that <\/p>\n
563
\n00:29:21,920 –> 00:29:24,200
\nthe tree was good for food and
\nwas pleasant to the eyes, and <\/p>\n
564
\n00:29:24,200 –> 00:29:27,120
\nthe tree desirable to make one
\nwise, she took of its fruit and <\/p>\n
565
\n00:29:27,120 –> 00:29:29,960
\nate, and she gave to her husband
\nwith her, and he ate also. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:29:30,280 –> 00:29:32,360
\nAnd then the eyes of both of
\nthem were open. <\/p>\n
567
\n00:29:32,360 –> 00:29:35,280
\nSo Serpent was right about that.
\nTheir eyes would be open. <\/p>\n
568
\n00:29:35,280 –> 00:29:37,560
\nThey had eaten of the tree of
\nthe knowledge of Good and Evil, <\/p>\n
569
\n00:29:37,880 –> 00:29:40,520
\nand they knew that they were
\nnaked, and they sewed fig leaves<\/p>\n
570
\n00:29:40,520 –> 00:29:42,800
\ntogether and made themselves
\ncoverings. <\/p>\n
571
\n00:29:43,160 –> 00:29:45,960
\nNow we all know back in this
\ncase that we don’t know how long<\/p>\n
572
\n00:29:45,960 –> 00:29:49,000
\nAdam and Eve lived, how long
\nthey survived before they <\/p>\n
573
\n00:29:49,000 –> 00:29:53,480
\nsinned, but it took at this
\npoint in their life, an outside <\/p>\n
574
\n00:29:53,480 –> 00:29:56,640
\ntempter to make the suggestion.
\nThere’s something about the way <\/p>\n
575
\n00:29:56,640 –> 00:29:59,640
\nthey were created when God
\nlooked across and saw that all <\/p>\n
576
\n00:29:59,640 –> 00:30:03,520
\nwas good, that Adam and Eve
\ndidn’t have those natural <\/p>\n
577
\n00:30:03,520 –> 00:30:08,000
\ntendencies to the extent that we
\ndo of wanting to choose evil. <\/p>\n
578
\n00:30:08,320 –> 00:30:10,880
\nThey were more a case.
\nIt was, you know, a day could go<\/p>\n
579
\n00:30:10,880 –> 00:30:12,320
\nby.
\nMaybe they want a whole day with<\/p>\n
580
\n00:30:12,320 –> 00:30:14,800
\nno sin.
\nMaybe they went a week with no <\/p>\n
581
\n00:30:14,800 –> 00:30:16,760
\nsin.
\nMaybe they want a month or a <\/p>\n
582
\n00:30:16,760 –> 00:30:18,600
\nyear.
\nWe really don’t know exactly how<\/p>\n
583
\n00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:22,920
\nlong that was, but it took an
\noutside tempter to bring about <\/p>\n
584
\n00:30:22,920 –> 00:30:26,760
\nthe idea and suggest that they
\nwould give in and and commit <\/p>\n
585
\n00:30:26,760 –> 00:30:29,080
\nsin.
\nAnd so the apostle Paul looks <\/p>\n
586
\n00:30:29,080 –> 00:30:30,800
\nback at this.
\nSo here we go again with New <\/p>\n
587
\n00:30:30,800 –> 00:30:33,600
\nTestament commentary on Old
\nTestament stories. <\/p>\n
588
\n00:30:33,800 –> 00:30:36,960
\nIt’s always good to look at what
\nhe says in Second Corinthians <\/p>\n
589
\n00:30:36,960 –> 00:30:40,480
\nChapter 11 and verse three.
\nHe points out to the Corinthians<\/p>\n
590
\n00:30:40,480 –> 00:30:45,480
\nthat I fear lest somehow as the
\nserpent deceived Eve by his <\/p>\n
591
\n00:30:45,480 –> 00:30:49,720
\ncraftiness, so your minds may be
\ncorrupted from the simplicity <\/p>\n
592
\n00:30:49,720 –> 00:30:52,480
\nthat is in Christ.
\nSo here’s a case now where Paul <\/p>\n
593
\n00:30:52,480 –> 00:30:56,320
\nis worried that what Eve went
\nthrough, Eve was fooled, she was<\/p>\n
594
\n00:30:56,320 –> 00:30:58,880
\ndeceived.
\nAnd Paul is concerned that the <\/p>\n
595
\n00:30:58,880 –> 00:31:02,680
\nwhole ecclesia at this point is
\ngoing to be deceived and fooled <\/p>\n
596
\n00:31:02,680 –> 00:31:05,760
\nby things that were happening in
\ntheir ecclesial world and that <\/p>\n
597
\n00:31:05,760 –> 00:31:08,880
\nthey would be be fooled like the
\nserpent had to see Eve in this <\/p>\n
598
\n00:31:08,880 –> 00:31:11,720
\ncase.
\nBut when he writes about this to<\/p>\n
599
\n00:31:11,720 –> 00:31:15,600
\nTimothy and talking about again
\nthis same incident in First <\/p>\n
600
\n00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:19,160
\nTimothy chapter 2, his argument
\nabout having sisters in <\/p>\n
601
\n00:31:19,160 –> 00:31:23,040
\necclesial life learn in silence
\nwith all submission comes from <\/p>\n
602
\n00:31:23,040 –> 00:31:27,800
\nthe fact in verse 13 that Adam
\nwas formed 1st and then Eve. <\/p>\n
603
\n00:31:28,000 –> 00:31:31,200
\nIt’s not about cultural things.
\nIt’s about the creation and the <\/p>\n
604
\n00:31:31,200 –> 00:31:33,720
\nway the angels made the
\ncreation. <\/p>\n
605
\n00:31:33,960 –> 00:31:37,000
\nAnd he goes on and says that
\nAdam was not deceived. <\/p>\n
606
\n00:31:37,360 –> 00:31:40,320
\nSee, we wouldn’t necessarily
\nknow that back in Genesis. <\/p>\n
607
\n00:31:40,320 –> 00:31:42,840
\nWe could have a debate about it
\nand we could talk about whether <\/p>\n
608
\n00:31:42,840 –> 00:31:46,200
\nit was true or not.
\nBut we now know that Paul says <\/p>\n
609
\n00:31:46,200 –> 00:31:50,000
\nthat Adam wasn’t fooled.
\nAdam’s sin was different than <\/p>\n
610
\n00:31:50,000 –> 00:31:52,040
\nEve.
\nHe knew what he was doing. <\/p>\n
611
\n00:31:52,360 –> 00:31:54,760
\nAnd we could have a great
\ndiscussion this afternoon about <\/p>\n
612
\n00:31:54,760 –> 00:31:57,560
\nwhose sin was worse.
\nAnd that really isn’t our goal <\/p>\n
613
\n00:31:57,560 –> 00:31:59,840
\nright now because they both
\ncommitted sins. <\/p>\n
614
\n00:31:59,840 –> 00:32:03,640
\nBut the thing it was different.
\nEve was deceived and Adam was <\/p>\n
615
\n00:32:03,640 –> 00:32:05,920
\nnot deceived.
\nAnd they both fell into the <\/p>\n
616
\n00:32:05,920 –> 00:32:08,680
\ntransgression in the end.
\nAnd Paul goes on to say that <\/p>\n
617
\n00:32:08,680 –> 00:32:11,640
\nnevertheless she will be saved
\nand bearing children and child <\/p>\n
618
\n00:32:11,640 –> 00:32:14,720
\nbearing if they continue in
\nfaith and love and holiness with<\/p>\n
619
\n00:32:14,720 –> 00:32:18,480
\nself-control.
\nSo Adam made a conscious choice <\/p>\n
620
\n00:32:18,600 –> 00:32:23,360
\nto join his wife in her life
\nthat she had chosen now and all <\/p>\n
621
\n00:32:23,360 –> 00:32:27,120
\nthe consequences of sin, whereas
\nEve had been deceived in that <\/p>\n
622
\n00:32:27,120 –> 00:32:28,400
\ncase.
\nAnd that’s part of Paul’s <\/p>\n
623
\n00:32:28,400 –> 00:32:31,320
\nreasoning as to why in a
\ncollegial life that the woman <\/p>\n
624
\n00:32:31,320 –> 00:32:34,160
\nshould keep silence.
\nSo when you go back and look at <\/p>\n
625
\n00:32:34,160 –> 00:32:37,240
\nthem in terms of the changes
\nthat took place at that time, is<\/p>\n
626
\n00:32:37,240 –> 00:32:40,200
\nthat Adam and Eve’s desires were
\ndifferent before they had <\/p>\n
627
\n00:32:40,200 –> 00:32:42,280
\nsinned.
\nNot just different between <\/p>\n
628
\n00:32:42,280 –> 00:32:44,920
\nthemselves, but they’re
\ndifferent than they were after <\/p>\n
629
\n00:32:44,920 –> 00:32:48,040
\nthey had sinned because back in
\nthe beginning the woman saw that<\/p>\n
630
\n00:32:48,040 –> 00:32:51,280
\nthe tree was good for food.
\nWell, that sure looks like what <\/p>\n
631
\n00:32:51,440 –> 00:32:54,080
\nwe would find in John.
\nYou know whether you have the <\/p>\n
632
\n00:32:54,160 –> 00:32:57,280
\nthe idea of things that are
\ndesirable and then you have <\/p>\n
633
\n00:32:57,280 –> 00:33:00,280
\npleasant to the eyes.
\nYou know the lust of the flesh, <\/p>\n
634
\n00:33:00,440 –> 00:33:04,480
\nthe lust of the eyes and then
\ndesired to make one wise the <\/p>\n
635
\n00:33:04,480 –> 00:33:07,640
\npride of life.
\nBut these were just desires back<\/p>\n
636
\n00:33:07,640 –> 00:33:09,040
\nthen.
\nThese were like there were <\/p>\n
637
\n00:33:09,040 –> 00:33:12,480
\nfeelings that were there, but he
\ndoesn’t call them the lust of <\/p>\n
638
\n00:33:12,480 –> 00:33:15,360
\nthe flesh, the lust of the eyes
\nand the pride of life at this <\/p>\n
639
\n00:33:15,360 –> 00:33:19,080
\npoint in this is 3, but I think
\nJohn does later on. <\/p>\n
640
\n00:33:19,400 –> 00:33:22,200
\nSo there was something different
\nabout this to where they were <\/p>\n
641
\n00:33:22,200 –> 00:33:25,520
\nable to go on for quite a while
\nsometime at least before they <\/p>\n
642
\n00:33:25,520 –> 00:33:29,240
\ngave in to the outside tempter.
\nWhereas when John brings this up<\/p>\n
643
\n00:33:29,240 –> 00:33:32,840
\nand in first John chapter 2 at
\nverse 15, he says do not love <\/p>\n
644
\n00:33:32,840 –> 00:33:34,160
\nthe world of the things of the
\nworld. <\/p>\n
645
\n00:33:34,160 –> 00:33:36,840
\nFor if anyone loves the world,
\nthe love of the Father is not in<\/p>\n
646
\n00:33:36,840 –> 00:33:38,960
\nhim.
\nFor all that is in the world, <\/p>\n
647
\n00:33:38,960 –> 00:33:42,240
\nthe lust of the flesh, the lust
\nof the eyes, the pride of life, <\/p>\n
648
\n00:33:42,600 –> 00:33:45,200
\nthese things, they’re not of the
\nFather, but they are of the <\/p>\n
649
\n00:33:45,200 –> 00:33:46,800
\nworld.
\nAnd so he says, look at God <\/p>\n
650
\n00:33:46,800 –> 00:33:49,120
\ndidn’t make this.
\nThis isn’t what God had <\/p>\n
651
\n00:33:49,120 –> 00:33:51,920
\nintended.
\nThis is now a choice that Adam <\/p>\n
652
\n00:33:51,920 –> 00:33:54,520
\nand Eve had made.
\nAnd now they had these lusts. <\/p>\n
653
\n00:33:54,840 –> 00:33:58,720
\nBut as Paul calls them, these
\ndeceitful lusts are now in them <\/p>\n
654
\n00:33:58,720 –> 00:34:01,640
\nas part of them.
\nSo before the before this had <\/p>\n
655
\n00:34:01,640 –> 00:34:03,760
\nhappened.
\nOriginally this temptation came <\/p>\n
656
\n00:34:03,760 –> 00:34:07,320
\nfrom the outside for Adam and
\nEve, and it took an outside <\/p>\n
657
\n00:34:07,320 –> 00:34:11,199
\ntempter to change them because
\nGod had made them very good. <\/p>\n
658
\n00:34:11,840 –> 00:34:15,440
\nBut now things have changed.
\nPaul says now that what we are <\/p>\n
659
\n00:34:15,440 –> 00:34:18,280
\ndealing with today, we are not
\nlike Adam and Eve before they <\/p>\n
660
\n00:34:18,280 –> 00:34:19,679
\nsinned.
\nWe’re not like that. <\/p>\n
661
\n00:34:19,960 –> 00:34:22,520
\nWe don’t grow up with that.
\nYou know, when we’re born, we <\/p>\n
662
\n00:34:22,520 –> 00:34:26,400
\nare now born already with a
\nnature that is prone to sin. <\/p>\n
663
\n00:34:26,880 –> 00:34:30,440
\nSo Paul would say in Ephesians 4
\nthat what God is trying to do <\/p>\n
664
\n00:34:30,440 –> 00:34:35,080
\nwith us today is to convince us
\nto change how we live so that we<\/p>\n
665
\n00:34:35,080 –> 00:34:39,679
\nput off concerning your former
\nconduct, the old man which grows<\/p>\n
666
\n00:34:39,679 –> 00:34:42,719
\ncorrupt according to the
\ndeceitful lusts. <\/p>\n
667
\n00:34:43,199 –> 00:34:46,560
\nSo now this isn’t just desire to
\nmake one wise. <\/p>\n
668
\n00:34:46,560 –> 00:34:50,199
\nThis isn’t just a desire.
\nThese are now deceitful lusts <\/p>\n
669
\n00:34:50,199 –> 00:34:52,360
\nthat we have in US.
\nThey’re deceitful. <\/p>\n
670
\n00:34:52,360 –> 00:34:55,719
\nThey fool us like the serpent
\nfooled Eve, and it’s in us as <\/p>\n
671
\n00:34:55,719 –> 00:34:58,120
\npart of our nature.
\nThis is what the Bible would <\/p>\n
672
\n00:34:58,120 –> 00:35:01,680
\nrefer to as the devil.
\nThis is the devil that’s in us, <\/p>\n
673
\n00:35:01,680 –> 00:35:04,560
\nthat we’re fighting these
\ndeceitful lusts and that you be <\/p>\n
674
\n00:35:04,560 –> 00:35:07,560
\nrenewed in the spirit of your
\nmind that God will help you <\/p>\n
675
\n00:35:07,560 –> 00:35:11,480
\novercome this because his
\nmorality is going to change how <\/p>\n
676
\n00:35:11,480 –> 00:35:13,480
\nyou live.
\nAnd you put on a new man which <\/p>\n
677
\n00:35:13,480 –> 00:35:17,320
\nwas created after God, according
\nto God and true righteousness <\/p>\n
678
\n00:35:17,320 –> 00:35:21,280
\nand holiness.
\nSo we now are born into a race <\/p>\n
679
\n00:35:21,280 –> 00:35:24,840
\nthat has deceitful lusts.
\nAnd that’s how Paul would refer <\/p>\n
680
\n00:35:24,840 –> 00:35:26,080
\nto that.
\nThat’s a little different than <\/p>\n
681
\n00:35:26,080 –> 00:35:29,240
\nAdam and Eve, the way they were
\ncreated or what the Bible would <\/p>\n
682
\n00:35:29,240 –> 00:35:32,160
\ncall.
\nWe now have a law of sin, as <\/p>\n
683
\n00:35:32,160 –> 00:35:35,600
\nPaul refers to it in Romans, a
\nlaw of sin that’s in our body. <\/p>\n
684
\n00:35:35,960 –> 00:35:40,040
\nSo that even in Genesis 8 at
\nverse 21, even when there’s only<\/p>\n
685
\n00:35:40,040 –> 00:35:44,000
\nNoah and his family alive after
\nthe flood and all those evil <\/p>\n
686
\n00:35:44,000 –> 00:35:47,000
\npeople had been wiped out.
\nAnd God starts over with Noah’s <\/p>\n
687
\n00:35:47,000 –> 00:35:49,240
\nfamily.
\nHe still looks at them in <\/p>\n
688
\n00:35:49,240 –> 00:35:52,920
\nGenesis 8 and says, you know,
\nthe imagination of man’s heart <\/p>\n
689
\n00:35:53,040 –> 00:35:56,760
\nis evil from his youth.
\nAnd this is now the righteous <\/p>\n
690
\n00:35:56,760 –> 00:35:59,400
\npeople.
\nThe imagination of a man’s heart<\/p>\n
691
\n00:35:59,600 –> 00:36:02,600
\nis evil from his youth.
\nOr as Jeremiah would say in <\/p>\n
692
\n00:36:02,600 –> 00:36:05,280
\nJeremiah 17, the heart’s
\ndeceitful above all things and <\/p>\n
693
\n00:36:05,280 –> 00:36:07,960
\ndesperately wicked.
\nOr what James would cover in <\/p>\n
694
\n00:36:07,960 –> 00:36:10,800
\nJames chapter one that don’t
\nblame God for your problems. <\/p>\n
695
\n00:36:10,800 –> 00:36:12,480
\nOh, no, don’t get sucked into
\nthat. <\/p>\n
696
\n00:36:12,640 –> 00:36:15,240
\nWhen bad things happen in your
\nlife and you have a tendency to <\/p>\n
697
\n00:36:15,240 –> 00:36:18,000
\nthink, God, this shouldn’t
\nhappen to me, this isn’t fair. <\/p>\n
698
\n00:36:18,320 –> 00:36:21,800
\nDon’t fall into that.
\nThat’s the seat of our lust. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:36:21,800 –> 00:36:24,840
\nThat’s our mind that’s trying to
\ntake us down a track, which is <\/p>\n
700
\n00:36:24,840 –> 00:36:27,080
\nno good.
\nAnd James would say, Oh no, that<\/p>\n
701
\n00:36:27,080 –> 00:36:30,400
\nwe’re not tempted by God.
\nNo, everyone is tempted when we <\/p>\n
702
\n00:36:30,400 –> 00:36:35,000
\nare drawn away by our own
\ndesires and enticed doesn’t even<\/p>\n
703
\n00:36:35,000 –> 00:36:36,640
\ntake an external tempter
\nanymore. <\/p>\n
704
\n00:36:36,640 –> 00:36:39,680
\nWe just think about it in our
\nhead, or what Paul would call in<\/p>\n
705
\n00:36:39,680 –> 00:36:43,560
\nRomans 7 at verse 20, CI see
\nanother law in my members <\/p>\n
706
\n00:36:43,760 –> 00:36:45,600
\nwarring against the law of my
\nmind. <\/p>\n
707
\n00:36:45,760 –> 00:36:48,520
\nWith my mind now in Christ, I
\nwant to do the right thing. <\/p>\n
708
\n00:36:48,720 –> 00:36:51,520
\nBut Paul says I’ve got this
\nother mind, this other law <\/p>\n
709
\n00:36:51,520 –> 00:36:54,640
\nthat’s up in here, and it’s
\nalways fighting with the mind of<\/p>\n
710
\n00:36:54,640 –> 00:36:56,880
\nthe Spirit.
\nIt’s this nasty mind of the <\/p>\n
711
\n00:36:56,880 –> 00:37:00,080
\nflesh that’s there, and it’s
\nbringing me into captivity to <\/p>\n
712
\n00:37:00,080 –> 00:37:02,080
\nthe law of sin, which is in my
\nmembers. <\/p>\n
713
\n00:37:02,560 –> 00:37:05,760
\nOr John’s reference in first
\nJohn 2 and 16 about the lust of <\/p>\n
714
\n00:37:05,760 –> 00:37:07,680
\nthe flesh of the eyes and the
\npride of life. <\/p>\n
715
\n00:37:08,200 –> 00:37:11,200
\nOr what Paul calls in Galatians
\n5 when he writes to them after <\/p>\n
716
\n00:37:11,200 –> 00:37:14,440
\ndealing with the fruit of the
\nSpirit, he reminds them that the<\/p>\n
717
\n00:37:14,440 –> 00:37:17,800
\nflesh is lusting against the
\nSpirit and the spirit against <\/p>\n
718
\n00:37:17,800 –> 00:37:20,240
\nthe flesh.
\nThey’re contrary to one another <\/p>\n
719
\n00:37:20,400 –> 00:37:22,880
\nso that you do not do the things
\nthat you wish. <\/p>\n
720
\n00:37:23,280 –> 00:37:26,160
\nAnd this is the battle, this is
\nthe war that goes on in each one<\/p>\n
721
\n00:37:26,160 –> 00:37:29,760
\nof us now today, because of the
\nresults of the sins of Adam and <\/p>\n
722
\n00:37:29,760 –> 00:37:32,040
\nEve.
\nSo what happened with Adam and <\/p>\n
723
\n00:37:32,040 –> 00:37:35,320
\nEve then when they sin, We all
\nknow that as a result of sin, <\/p>\n
724
\n00:37:35,320 –> 00:37:37,960
\nthat in the day that you eat of
\nit dying, you will die. <\/p>\n
725
\n00:37:37,960 –> 00:37:40,920
\nThey became mortal, and to dust
\nthey shall return. <\/p>\n
726
\n00:37:41,240 –> 00:37:45,240
\nBut they also inherit with that
\nmortality now this tendency to <\/p>\n
727
\n00:37:45,240 –> 00:37:47,560
\nsin.
\nSo we find out that Paul would <\/p>\n
728
\n00:37:47,560 –> 00:37:50,880
\nsay in Romans chapter 5 and
\nverse 12 that not not only did <\/p>\n
729
\n00:37:50,880 –> 00:37:55,400
\nAdam and Eve become mortal, but
\nthey passed on mortality to all <\/p>\n
730
\n00:37:55,400 –> 00:37:58,480
\nof their children, just as
\nthrough one man centered and <\/p>\n
731
\n00:37:58,480 –> 00:38:00,760
\nsend entered into the world and
\ndeath through sin. <\/p>\n
732
\n00:38:01,000 –> 00:38:04,480
\nThus death spread to all men
\nbecause all sin. <\/p>\n
733
\n00:38:04,480 –> 00:38:07,320
\nAnd so they passed on a mortal
\nnature. <\/p>\n
734
\n00:38:07,720 –> 00:38:11,800
\nBut they didn’t just pass on
\nmortality, they passed on their <\/p>\n
735
\n00:38:11,800 –> 00:38:16,040
\nbias now to sin, that God had
\nchanged them as a result of that<\/p>\n
736
\n00:38:16,040 –> 00:38:18,040
\nsin.
\nAnd now you could again debate <\/p>\n
737
\n00:38:18,040 –> 00:38:20,560
\nwhether it was the eating of the
\nfruit, which some people in our <\/p>\n
738
\n00:38:20,560 –> 00:38:23,360
\ncommunity think, or whether it
\nwas the angels specifically <\/p>\n
739
\n00:38:23,360 –> 00:38:26,600
\nchanged them at that point.
\nBut something happened now to <\/p>\n
740
\n00:38:26,600 –> 00:38:28,480
\nwhere they don’t need an
\nexternal tempter. <\/p>\n
741
\n00:38:28,760 –> 00:38:32,120
\nNow they have deceitful lusts in
\ntheir bodies. <\/p>\n
742
\n00:38:32,600 –> 00:38:35,240
\nAnd I don’t really think God did
\nthis with evil intent at all. <\/p>\n
743
\n00:38:35,240 –> 00:38:38,000
\nIt’s not like he, I mean, Harry
\n10, at one point said it was <\/p>\n
744
\n00:38:38,000 –> 00:38:41,120
\nlike God.
\nGod froze into their bodies what<\/p>\n
745
\n00:38:41,120 –> 00:38:43,200
\nthey had chosen this this way of
\nlife. <\/p>\n
746
\n00:38:43,480 –> 00:38:46,040
\nAnd many of our brethren had
\npicked up on the fact and <\/p>\n
747
\n00:38:46,040 –> 00:38:48,640
\nunderstood that this was how God
\nwas going to save them. <\/p>\n
748
\n00:38:49,080 –> 00:38:51,600
\nIf, if you had Adam and Eve’s
\nnature before they sinned, <\/p>\n
749
\n00:38:51,600 –> 00:38:54,440
\nimagine if you had that today
\nand you woke up this morning, <\/p>\n
750
\n00:38:54,440 –> 00:38:56,920
\ndidn’t commit any sins before
\nyou came here, went through the <\/p>\n
751
\n00:38:56,920 –> 00:38:59,480
\nwhole day, never sinned.
\nTomorrow you don’t sin either. <\/p>\n
752
\n00:38:59,520 –> 00:39:01,080
\nThe next day you don’t sin
\neither. <\/p>\n
753
\n00:39:01,200 –> 00:39:03,440
\nAnd you’ve got this very good
\nnature of Adam and Eve. <\/p>\n
754
\n00:39:03,520 –> 00:39:05,640
\nWould you think you needed a
\nRedeemer? <\/p>\n
755
\n00:39:06,960 –> 00:39:09,440
\nSee what would happen?
\nWe’d end up thinking I’m pretty <\/p>\n
756
\n00:39:09,440 –> 00:39:11,280
\ngood.
\nI mean, the Jews thought they <\/p>\n
757
\n00:39:11,280 –> 00:39:14,200
\nwere pretty good even though
\nthey had a law and the law was <\/p>\n
758
\n00:39:14,200 –> 00:39:17,320
\nsupposed to show them that they
\nwere exceeding sinners, and they<\/p>\n
759
\n00:39:17,320 –> 00:39:19,320
\nstill turned it into something
\nwhere they thought they were <\/p>\n
760
\n00:39:19,320 –> 00:39:21,520
\npretty good.
\nWe’d be thinking we were really <\/p>\n
761
\n00:39:21,520 –> 00:39:24,920
\ngood if that’s how we were.
\nAnd So what God has done in his <\/p>\n
762
\n00:39:24,920 –> 00:39:28,600
\nkindness is given us a nature
\nnow, which is prone to sin, has <\/p>\n
763
\n00:39:28,600 –> 00:39:31,720
\na bias to sin.
\nHe’s he’s given us this devil <\/p>\n
764
\n00:39:31,720 –> 00:39:35,040
\nwithin us so that we realize we
\nneed him. <\/p>\n
765
\n00:39:35,040 –> 00:39:38,560
\nWe we need the work in his work
\nin our life or we will never <\/p>\n
766
\n00:39:38,560 –> 00:39:40,680
\nmake it.
\nThat’s his kindness, really. <\/p>\n
767
\n00:39:40,840 –> 00:39:44,480
\nSo he saw in Genesis 6 at verse
\n5 that the imagination of man’s <\/p>\n
768
\n00:39:44,480 –> 00:39:47,200
\nheart was only evil continually.
\nAnd it was true of Noah. <\/p>\n
769
\n00:39:47,720 –> 00:39:50,240
\nJesus said in Mark 7 that it’s
\nfrom within. <\/p>\n
770
\n00:39:50,320 –> 00:39:52,040
\nIt’s it’s not about the foods
\nthat we eat. <\/p>\n
771
\n00:39:52,280 –> 00:39:54,720
\nIt’s from in here, not what we
\nput in our mouth. <\/p>\n
772
\n00:39:55,000 –> 00:39:58,960
\nOut of the heart of man come all
\nthese nasty things and he lists <\/p>\n
773
\n00:39:58,960 –> 00:40:01,560
\nthem all off or Paul says in
\nRomans 7 that when the <\/p>\n
774
\n00:40:01,560 –> 00:40:05,400
\ncommandment cave sin revived and
\nI died, you know, and he refers <\/p>\n
775
\n00:40:05,400 –> 00:40:09,000
\nto our bodies as being this body
\nof sin or the sinful body, the <\/p>\n
776
\n00:40:09,000 –> 00:40:11,160
\nbody of death.
\nWho will deliver me from this <\/p>\n
777
\n00:40:11,160 –> 00:40:13,920
\nbody of death?
\nHe says thanks be to God through<\/p>\n
778
\n00:40:14,000 –> 00:40:16,720
\nJesus Christ our Lord.
\nSo we don’t need an outside <\/p>\n
779
\n00:40:16,720 –> 00:40:19,480
\ntempter anymore.
\nWe’ve now got it inside or what <\/p>\n
780
\n00:40:19,480 –> 00:40:22,680
\nthe Bible refers to as the devil
\nor what we’ve got this mind in <\/p>\n
781
\n00:40:22,680 –> 00:40:25,160
\nus this this mind that has
\ndeceitful lust. <\/p>\n
782
\n00:40:25,160 –> 00:40:27,840
\nWe’re thinking about and and
\ndwelling on things that we could<\/p>\n
783
\n00:40:27,840 –> 00:40:29,880
\ndo which are not really what
\nGod. <\/p>\n
784
\n00:40:30,000 –> 00:40:34,960
\nWants us to do, and he’s made
\nthat very aware in us so that we<\/p>\n
785
\n00:40:34,960 –> 00:40:39,040
\nrealize our need for redemption.
\nIt’s all part of his kindness <\/p>\n
786
\n00:40:39,040 –> 00:40:41,800
\nreally, that he’s done this.
\nSometimes Olympic athletes or <\/p>\n
787
\n00:40:41,800 –> 00:40:43,720
\nathletes, when they’re training
\nin school, if you want to run <\/p>\n
788
\n00:40:43,720 –> 00:40:46,360
\nreally fast, a lot of times what
\nthey teach athletes to do is <\/p>\n
789
\n00:40:46,360 –> 00:40:48,240
\nwear weights.
\nThey put 8 weights around their <\/p>\n
790
\n00:40:48,240 –> 00:40:50,400
\nankles and they walk around all
\nthe time wearing weights. <\/p>\n
791
\n00:40:50,680 –> 00:40:54,080
\nAnd then when they get into the
\nfinal race, they lay aside every<\/p>\n
792
\n00:40:54,080 –> 00:40:58,480
\nweight and they run that race,
\nas Paul says, as fast as they <\/p>\n
793
\n00:40:58,480 –> 00:41:00,800
\ncan.
\nAnd in a sense, God’s done that <\/p>\n
794
\n00:41:00,800 –> 00:41:02,680
\nin us.
\nHe’s given us something to weigh<\/p>\n
795
\n00:41:02,680 –> 00:41:05,680
\nus down so that we realize where
\nwe’re at. <\/p>\n
796
\n00:41:05,720 –> 00:41:08,880
\nAnd then hopefully the day will
\ncome when he can take those <\/p>\n
797
\n00:41:08,880 –> 00:41:12,400
\nthings away and he will give us
\na body which is free from this. <\/p>\n
798
\n00:41:12,760 –> 00:41:15,920
\nSo you see that there are two
\naspects of sin in the Bible. <\/p>\n
799
\n00:41:15,920 –> 00:41:18,880
\nThere are personal
\ntransgressions that are sins <\/p>\n
800
\n00:41:19,040 –> 00:41:22,040
\nthat when we sin against God.
\nAnd then there’s these other <\/p>\n
801
\n00:41:22,040 –> 00:41:23,960
\nthings.
\nThat’s this human nature, this <\/p>\n
802
\n00:41:23,960 –> 00:41:27,680
\nbias that we have towards sin.
\nAnd there really are two <\/p>\n
803
\n00:41:27,680 –> 00:41:30,960
\naspects, as Brother Thomas had
\npicked up about the use of sin <\/p>\n
804
\n00:41:30,960 –> 00:41:32,760
\nin the Bible.
\nThere are personal <\/p>\n
805
\n00:41:32,760 –> 00:41:35,800
\ntransgressions that we make
\nwhere we make mistakes, we we <\/p>\n
806
\n00:41:35,800 –> 00:41:38,200
\ncommit error and we sin against
\nGod. <\/p>\n
807
\n00:41:38,520 –> 00:41:41,160
\nAnd those are some of the ways
\nthat sin is used. <\/p>\n
808
\n00:41:41,520 –> 00:41:45,320
\nBut our nature itself, because
\nit now has these deceitful <\/p>\n
809
\n00:41:45,320 –> 00:41:48,160
\nlusts, is included in part of
\nthe problem. <\/p>\n
810
\n00:41:48,560 –> 00:41:52,400
\nThe nature that we bear it, it
\nwants to it, it tempts us that <\/p>\n
811
\n00:41:52,720 –> 00:41:55,840
\nit has desires that are
\ndeceitful, and it fools us. <\/p>\n
812
\n00:41:55,840 –> 00:41:59,360
\nSometimes you go in there to see
\nall those snacks and you just <\/p>\n
813
\n00:41:59,360 –> 00:42:02,000
\nthink, oh, boy.
\nAnd we start thinking about what<\/p>\n
814
\n00:42:02,000 –> 00:42:04,880
\nwe could have, and we start
\npiling up our little plates and <\/p>\n
815
\n00:42:04,880 –> 00:42:06,560
\npiling them on.
\nAnd we think, I want some of <\/p>\n
816
\n00:42:06,560 –> 00:42:09,320
\nthis and I want some of this.
\nAnd before we know it, we have <\/p>\n
817
\n00:42:09,320 –> 00:42:11,080
\nso much you almost can’t eat it
\nall. <\/p>\n
818
\n00:42:11,080 –> 00:42:13,120
\nBut this is what happens in our
\nbrain. <\/p>\n
819
\n00:42:13,120 –> 00:42:16,240
\nEverybody knows it.
\nWe have these deceitful lusts <\/p>\n
820
\n00:42:16,240 –> 00:42:17,680
\nand we think, Oh yeah, I can
\nhandle that. <\/p>\n
821
\n00:42:18,200 –> 00:42:19,720
\nAnd then we find out what you
\ncan. <\/p>\n
822
\n00:42:19,720 –> 00:42:21,280
\nWell, it does that with all
\nkinds of sin. <\/p>\n
823
\n00:42:21,280 –> 00:42:25,040
\nThis is the nature that we bear.
\nOne of them really is like in <\/p>\n
824
\n00:42:25,040 –> 00:42:28,000
\nBible terminology, one of them
\nis the root and the other one <\/p>\n
825
\n00:42:28,000 –> 00:42:30,560
\nare the fruits.
\nSo you have a nature now that’s <\/p>\n
826
\n00:42:30,560 –> 00:42:34,760
\nprone to sin that God had to put
\nin us so that we would see our <\/p>\n
827
\n00:42:34,760 –> 00:42:37,760
\nneed for redemption.
\nBut then at the same time, we <\/p>\n
828
\n00:42:37,760 –> 00:42:42,160
\nhave the personal transgressions
\nthat this nature actually causes<\/p>\n
829
\n00:42:42,160 –> 00:42:45,880
\nus to commit, that flow from
\nthis nature in the end, and that<\/p>\n
830
\n00:42:45,880 –> 00:42:47,760
\nthen we end up with God dealing
\nwith both. <\/p>\n
831
\n00:42:47,760 –> 00:42:50,160
\nThat’s the good thing.
\nWhen you go back and look at our<\/p>\n
832
\n00:42:50,160 –> 00:42:53,960
\ncommunity as So what we’ve done
\nas a group, sometimes some folks<\/p>\n
833
\n00:42:53,960 –> 00:42:56,840
\nin our community, when you watch
\nhow the pendulum can swing about<\/p>\n
834
\n00:42:56,840 –> 00:43:00,840
\nhuman nature, some people see
\nhuman nature as basically good. <\/p>\n
835
\n00:43:01,400 –> 00:43:03,920
\nYou’ll see that a lot in in the
\nChristian community today. <\/p>\n
836
\n00:43:03,920 –> 00:43:06,400
\nYou’ll see it a lot in the
\nhumanistic approaches and rebel <\/p>\n
837
\n00:43:06,400 –> 00:43:10,560
\nand, and religion that we
\nbasically have a good nature. <\/p>\n
838
\n00:43:10,560 –> 00:43:12,280
\nAnd the problem is the
\nenvironment. <\/p>\n
839
\n00:43:12,480 –> 00:43:15,960
\nIf you just all grew up in good
\nfamilies and if we all had good <\/p>\n
840
\n00:43:15,960 –> 00:43:19,360
\ngovernments and if we all had
\nall this good stuff and then <\/p>\n
841
\n00:43:19,360 –> 00:43:22,480
\npeople sometimes think, well,
\nthen we would just our good <\/p>\n
842
\n00:43:22,480 –> 00:43:25,800
\nnature would just then have a
\nwonderful place to flourish. <\/p>\n
843
\n00:43:26,320 –> 00:43:28,760
\nAnd for people who believe that,
\nI mean, just to remind them that<\/p>\n
844
\n00:43:28,760 –> 00:43:31,400
\nlook at the Kingdom aged in the
\nthousand year Kingdom that <\/p>\n
845
\n00:43:31,400 –> 00:43:34,160
\nChrist sets on earth.
\nAnd Jesus Christ will be the <\/p>\n
846
\n00:43:34,160 –> 00:43:37,720
\nruler and all this world, all
\nthe corruption that you see in <\/p>\n
847
\n00:43:37,720 –> 00:43:40,560
\nthis world will be replaced.
\nAnd we finally had this <\/p>\n
848
\n00:43:40,560 –> 00:43:42,920
\nexperiment about what are humans
\ngoing to do? <\/p>\n
849
\n00:43:42,920 –> 00:43:45,080
\nAnd they’re given this wonderful
\nopportunity. <\/p>\n
850
\n00:43:45,440 –> 00:43:48,320
\nYou find a rebellion at the end
\nof the thousand year Kingdom and<\/p>\n
851
\n00:43:48,320 –> 00:43:52,200
\nthat’s what it will produce.
\nSo the problem really is in the <\/p>\n
852
\n00:43:52,200 –> 00:43:54,200
\nnature.
\nWe by nature have something <\/p>\n
853
\n00:43:54,200 –> 00:43:57,520
\nwhich is prone to sin that
\nreally isn’t basically good <\/p>\n
854
\n00:43:57,520 –> 00:44:00,080
\nbecause it’s been changed from
\nwhere Adam and Eve had <\/p>\n
855
\n00:44:00,080 –> 00:44:02,880
\noriginally started.
\nWe then find that sometimes in <\/p>\n
856
\n00:44:02,880 –> 00:44:05,560
\nour community people swing to
\nthe other side and they say, <\/p>\n
857
\n00:44:05,560 –> 00:44:08,480
\nwell, human nature is terribly
\nwicked and bad. <\/p>\n
858
\n00:44:08,760 –> 00:44:11,160
\nIt’s so bad that you’re guilty
\nfor it. <\/p>\n
859
\n00:44:11,440 –> 00:44:13,440
\nGod holds you guilty for your
\nnature. <\/p>\n
860
\n00:44:13,480 –> 00:44:15,560
\nYou’ll find like, you know, the
\nCatholics came up with the <\/p>\n
861
\n00:44:15,560 –> 00:44:18,680
\ninherited sin concept and you
\nhave to have an atonement for <\/p>\n
862
\n00:44:18,680 –> 00:44:21,280
\nthat sin.
\nOr you’ll sometimes find within <\/p>\n
863
\n00:44:21,280 –> 00:44:23,840
\nour community that people won’t
\ngo that far, but they’ll say <\/p>\n
864
\n00:44:23,840 –> 00:44:27,080
\nthat our nature is so bad, you
\nneed an atonement for the <\/p>\n
865
\n00:44:27,080 –> 00:44:29,640
\nnature.
\nAnd so now we’re like starting <\/p>\n
866
\n00:44:29,640 –> 00:44:33,080
\nto like talk about terminology
\nthat you just don’t find in the <\/p>\n
867
\n00:44:33,080 –> 00:44:36,640
\nBible that human nature is so
\nbad that we’re going to require <\/p>\n
868
\n00:44:36,640 –> 00:44:40,040
\nan offering for the nature.
\nAnd it’s, it’s an interesting <\/p>\n
869
\n00:44:40,040 –> 00:44:42,600
\nconcept that they have somehow
\nthat I want to know what people <\/p>\n
870
\n00:44:42,600 –> 00:44:45,000
\nare thinking there, that like
\nsomehow God is going to save our<\/p>\n
871
\n00:44:45,000 –> 00:44:47,480
\nnature, that he’s going to make
\nan atonement for it and redeem <\/p>\n
872
\n00:44:47,480 –> 00:44:49,360
\nit.
\nWhen the nature itself, the way <\/p>\n
873
\n00:44:49,360 –> 00:44:52,760
\nit’s being used in the Bible, in
\nBible terminology, it’s really, <\/p>\n
874
\n00:44:52,760 –> 00:44:56,160
\nit’s the devil and you don’t
\nredeem the devil. <\/p>\n
875
\n00:44:56,440 –> 00:44:59,160
\nThis is something that we are
\nbeing taught to fight. <\/p>\n
876
\n00:44:59,160 –> 00:45:02,400
\nThis is King’s sin.
\nAnd our goal in the end is to <\/p>\n
877
\n00:45:02,440 –> 00:45:06,160
\nput sin to death.
\nAnd so it’s just fun to look at <\/p>\n
878
\n00:45:06,160 –> 00:45:09,320
\nin our community this idea of
\nwatching the pendulum swing back<\/p>\n
879
\n00:45:09,320 –> 00:45:11,800
\nand forth and you have to find
\nwhere the truth is. <\/p>\n
880
\n00:45:11,800 –> 00:45:13,920
\nAnd I, I really believe it’s
\nsomewhere in the middle there <\/p>\n
881
\n00:45:13,920 –> 00:45:17,880
\nthat human nature is bad.
\nIt, it has bad desires in it. <\/p>\n
882
\n00:45:17,880 –> 00:45:21,640
\nIt is prone to sin, but God
\ndoesn’t hold you guilty for it <\/p>\n
883
\n00:45:21,640 –> 00:45:23,760
\nand he doesn’t intend to redeem
\nit. <\/p>\n
884
\n00:45:24,120 –> 00:45:25,600
\nYou’re not going to redeem the
\ndevil. <\/p>\n
885
\n00:45:25,600 –> 00:45:28,160
\nThat’s in our nature.
\nAnd instead he’s going to kick <\/p>\n
886
\n00:45:28,160 –> 00:45:30,200
\nthe devil out.
\nHe’s going to remove the devil <\/p>\n
887
\n00:45:30,200 –> 00:45:33,720
\nfrom us and turn us into beings
\nthat are going to be like the <\/p>\n
888
\n00:45:33,720 –> 00:45:35,640
\nangels.
\nThat’s the goal of God. <\/p>\n
889
\n00:45:36,480 –> 00:45:38,960
\nSo when John Thomas was
\nreferring to this in Elpis <\/p>\n
890
\n00:45:38,960 –> 00:45:42,040
\nIsrael, and he makes mention of
\nit, a lot of people, you look at<\/p>\n
891
\n00:45:42,040 –> 00:45:45,200
\nhis, his section in Elpis Israel
\nabout the, the use of the word <\/p>\n
892
\n00:45:45,200 –> 00:45:48,840
\nsin in the Bible.
\nAnd he says that the word sin is<\/p>\n
893
\n00:45:48,840 –> 00:45:51,720
\nused in two principal
\nacceptations in the Scripture. <\/p>\n
894
\n00:45:51,720 –> 00:45:55,200
\nIt signifies in the 1st place,
\nthe transgressions of the law. <\/p>\n
895
\n00:45:55,200 –> 00:45:58,640
\nThose are our personal sins.
\nAnd then the next it represents <\/p>\n
896
\n00:45:58,640 –> 00:46:01,880
\nthat physical principle of the
\nanimal nature. <\/p>\n
897
\n00:46:02,000 –> 00:46:04,640
\nSee, this is something that’s
\nphysically in us. <\/p>\n
898
\n00:46:04,720 –> 00:46:07,720
\nIt’s this devil that we’re
\nfighting, this principle in the <\/p>\n
899
\n00:46:07,760 –> 00:46:12,000
\nanimal nature which is the cause
\nof all its diseases and its <\/p>\n
900
\n00:46:12,000 –> 00:46:15,280
\ndeath and its resolution in the
\ndust, and it is that in the <\/p>\n
901
\n00:46:15,280 –> 00:46:17,400
\nflesh which has the power of
\ndeath. <\/p>\n
902
\n00:46:17,400 –> 00:46:19,560
\nThere’s that phrase right out of
\nHebrews 2. <\/p>\n
903
\n00:46:19,560 –> 00:46:23,680
\nThat is, the devil has the power
\nof death, and it is called sin <\/p>\n
904
\n00:46:23,960 –> 00:46:27,200
\nbecause the development or
\nfixation of this evil in the <\/p>\n
905
\n00:46:27,200 –> 00:46:29,840
\nflesh was the result of
\ntransgression. <\/p>\n
906
\n00:46:29,840 –> 00:46:33,760
\nThis was a change that took
\nplace as the result of Adam and <\/p>\n
907
\n00:46:33,760 –> 00:46:36,000
\nEve’s sin.
\nAnd as much as the evil <\/p>\n
908
\n00:46:36,000 –> 00:46:40,560
\nprinciple pervades every part of
\nthe flesh, the animal nature is <\/p>\n
909
\n00:46:40,560 –> 00:46:45,400
\nstyled sinful flesh by Paul, or
\nthat is flesh full of sin. <\/p>\n
910
\n00:46:45,760 –> 00:46:49,840
\nSo that sin in the Bible in the
\nsacred style came to stand for <\/p>\n
911
\n00:46:49,840 –> 00:46:53,440
\nthe substance called man.
\nAnd a lot of people have looked <\/p>\n
912
\n00:46:53,440 –> 00:46:55,800
\nat that section and Alpha is
\nIsrael and been amazed at how <\/p>\n
913
\n00:46:55,800 –> 00:46:58,200
\nJohn Thomas had picked that out
\nand understood. <\/p>\n
914
\n00:46:58,440 –> 00:47:00,720
\nAnd that is one of the areas
\nthat in our Christadelphian <\/p>\n
915
\n00:47:00,720 –> 00:47:03,880
\ncommunity, we we’ve inherited,
\nwhich is a, a wonderful concept <\/p>\n
916
\n00:47:03,880 –> 00:47:06,920
\nabout the, the total use of the
\nword sin in the Bible. <\/p>\n
917
\n00:47:07,480 –> 00:47:12,040
\nSo you can see that when God
\ncondemned sin in the body of <\/p>\n
918
\n00:47:12,120 –> 00:47:14,440
\nJesus Christ, he condemned it
\nall. <\/p>\n
919
\n00:47:14,640 –> 00:47:17,640
\nHe didn’t just condemn personal
\ntransgressions. <\/p>\n
920
\n00:47:17,640 –> 00:47:21,200
\nHe condemned the devil that bore
\nthose things in nature that, <\/p>\n
921
\n00:47:21,200 –> 00:47:24,040
\nthat, that, that was the root of
\nthose problems. <\/p>\n
922
\n00:47:24,400 –> 00:47:27,040
\nSo in Romans 8, you’ll, you’ll
\nsee that when Paul’s dealing <\/p>\n
923
\n00:47:27,040 –> 00:47:30,400
\nwith this and he’s really not
\ntalking about legalistic stuff <\/p>\n
924
\n00:47:30,400 –> 00:47:33,120
\nhere in Romans 8 at all.
\nHe’s talking about real <\/p>\n
925
\n00:47:33,440 –> 00:47:36,640
\nconquering of sin.
\nThis was a real work that God <\/p>\n
926
\n00:47:36,640 –> 00:47:40,600
\naccomplished in Jesus Christ for
\nwhat the law could not do in <\/p>\n
927
\n00:47:40,600 –> 00:47:42,280
\nthat it was weak through the
\nflesh. <\/p>\n
928
\n00:47:42,600 –> 00:47:48,120
\nGod did by sending his own Son
\nin the likeness of sinful flesh.<\/p>\n
929
\n00:47:48,280 –> 00:47:52,400
\nYou know, He had our nature, He
\nnever gave in to sin, but He had<\/p>\n
930
\n00:47:52,400 –> 00:47:55,200
\nour nature.
\nAnd on account of sin, it’s <\/p>\n
931
\n00:47:55,200 –> 00:48:00,280
\nbecause of sin that He did this.
\nHe condemned sin in the flesh. <\/p>\n
932
\n00:48:00,600 –> 00:48:03,080
\nHe condemned it all.
\nHe condemned the root in the <\/p>\n
933
\n00:48:03,080 –> 00:48:06,520
\nnature, and He condemned the
\npersonal transgressions because <\/p>\n
934
\n00:48:06,520 –> 00:48:10,520
\nJesus Christ nailed the body of
\nsin to the tree like the serpent<\/p>\n
935
\n00:48:10,520 –> 00:48:13,160
\nin the wilderness, and He never
\ngave in. <\/p>\n
936
\n00:48:13,160 –> 00:48:16,160
\nWhen He was reviled, He didn’t
\nrevile in return. <\/p>\n
937
\n00:48:16,320 –> 00:48:19,640
\nWhen He suffered, He didn’t
\nthreaten that, he committed <\/p>\n
938
\n00:48:19,640 –> 00:48:23,560
\nhimself to his father.
\nAnd for those who live, sorry, <\/p>\n
939
\n00:48:23,840 –> 00:48:26,840
\nas Paul goes on there in verse
\n4, then that the righteous <\/p>\n
940
\n00:48:26,840 –> 00:48:31,120
\nrequirement of the law might be
\nfulfilled in US. <\/p>\n
941
\n00:48:31,480 –> 00:48:35,960
\nIsn’t that interesting that God
\ndid that in Jesus Christ? <\/p>\n
942
\n00:48:36,360 –> 00:48:39,360
\nAnd here we go again.
\nSo that something is going to <\/p>\n
943
\n00:48:39,360 –> 00:48:43,520
\nchange your life, the righteous
\nrequirement of the law. <\/p>\n
944
\n00:48:43,840 –> 00:48:47,520
\nWhat was the aim of the law?
\nWhat was the law really aiming <\/p>\n
945
\n00:48:47,520 –> 00:48:51,400
\nat all along but to love the
\nLord your God with all your <\/p>\n
946
\n00:48:51,400 –> 00:48:54,520
\nheart and all your soul and all
\nyour strength and all your mind,<\/p>\n
947
\n00:48:54,520 –> 00:48:57,920
\nand to love your neighbor as
\nyourself? <\/p>\n
948
\n00:48:58,320 –> 00:49:02,160
\nPaul says over and over again on
\nthose two things hang all the <\/p>\n
949
\n00:49:02,160 –> 00:49:05,560
\nlaw and the prophets.
\nPaul says that was the aim of <\/p>\n
950
\n00:49:05,560 –> 00:49:08,960
\nthe law or some of our versions
\nhad the end of the law ending. <\/p>\n
951
\n00:49:08,960 –> 00:49:12,080
\nThe end in the sense of this is
\nthe end of the law, he says this<\/p>\n
952
\n00:49:12,080 –> 00:49:14,520
\nwas the end result.
\nThis is what the law was aiming <\/p>\n
953
\n00:49:14,520 –> 00:49:18,360
\nat all along, that we would
\nlearn to love God and love our <\/p>\n
954
\n00:49:18,360 –> 00:49:22,320
\nneighbor as ourselves.
\nThat was a righteous requirement<\/p>\n
955
\n00:49:22,400 –> 00:49:25,680
\nof the law.
\nAnd God did this in His Son so <\/p>\n
956
\n00:49:25,680 –> 00:49:29,960
\nthat this would now take place
\nin us, that now we will love Him<\/p>\n
957
\n00:49:29,960 –> 00:49:32,240
\nand we will love our neighbor as
\nourselves. <\/p>\n
958
\n00:49:32,520 –> 00:49:35,080
\nSo Paul would go on there and
\nsay that it’s the righteous <\/p>\n
959
\n00:49:35,080 –> 00:49:36,960
\nrequirement of the law will be
\nfilled in US. <\/p>\n
960
\n00:49:36,960 –> 00:49:38,160
\nWho?
\nWhat? <\/p>\n
961
\n00:49:38,400 –> 00:49:41,600
\nThis is not just legalistic,
\nthis is not academic. <\/p>\n
962
\n00:49:41,760 –> 00:49:44,360
\nThis is way of life that he’s
\ntalking about. <\/p>\n
963
\n00:49:44,600 –> 00:49:48,280
\nWho walk, who do not walk
\naccording to the flesh, but <\/p>\n
964
\n00:49:48,280 –> 00:49:51,160
\naccording to the Spirit.
\nFor those who live according to <\/p>\n
965
\n00:49:51,160 –> 00:49:54,400
\nthe flesh have set their minds
\non the things of the flesh, but <\/p>\n
966
\n00:49:54,400 –> 00:49:58,520
\nthose who live according to the
\nSpirit, the things of the Spirit<\/p>\n
967
\n00:49:59,440 –> 00:50:02,520
\nsay, again, this is not a
\nchapter that’s about legal <\/p>\n
968
\n00:50:02,520 –> 00:50:05,000
\nstanding.
\nThis is not about legal stuff <\/p>\n
969
\n00:50:05,000 –> 00:50:08,200
\nthat Paul’s talking.
\nHe’s talking about how you live.<\/p>\n
970
\n00:50:08,680 –> 00:50:11,680
\nThis is a way of life.
\nThat’s why they call it the way <\/p>\n
971
\n00:50:12,080 –> 00:50:15,640
\nthat this is how we live, that
\nGod is after he’s out to change <\/p>\n
972
\n00:50:15,640 –> 00:50:19,240
\nour life and the life of Christ
\nwas designed to do that. <\/p>\n
973
\n00:50:20,640 –> 00:50:22,440
\nThe in our clause in our
\nstatement of faith. <\/p>\n
974
\n00:50:22,440 –> 00:50:25,120
\nYou’ll notice that when we wrote
\nour statement of faith and they <\/p>\n
975
\n00:50:25,120 –> 00:50:27,760
\nput out the Birmingham amended
\nstatement of faith or even in <\/p>\n
976
\n00:50:27,760 –> 00:50:28,920
\nthe Birmingham statement of
\nfaith. <\/p>\n
977
\n00:50:28,920 –> 00:50:30,760
\nThat referred to that in clause
\n5. <\/p>\n
978
\n00:50:31,080 –> 00:50:34,800
\nWhen he referred to the idea
\nthat Adam broke the law that God<\/p>\n
979
\n00:50:34,800 –> 00:50:39,000
\nhad established and was a judge
\nunworthy of immortality and <\/p>\n
980
\n00:50:39,000 –> 00:50:41,760
\nsentenced to return to the
\nground from whence he was taken,<\/p>\n
981
\n00:50:42,280 –> 00:50:46,720
\na sentence which defiled and
\nbecame a physical law of his <\/p>\n
982
\n00:50:46,720 –> 00:50:49,080
\nbeing.
\nSo it defiled him. <\/p>\n
983
\n00:50:49,080 –> 00:50:54,000
\nSo now he is morally defiled and
\nit’s also a physical law of his <\/p>\n
984
\n00:50:54,000 –> 00:50:56,600
\nbeing.
\nAnd this is this part now that <\/p>\n
985
\n00:50:56,600 –> 00:51:01,360
\nwe have built into US mortality
\nand this proneness to sin, and <\/p>\n
986
\n00:51:01,360 –> 00:51:03,840
\nit was transmitted to all his
\nposterity. <\/p>\n
987
\n00:51:04,160 –> 00:51:07,120
\nSo in a very simple clause right
\nthere, it actually covered a lot<\/p>\n
988
\n00:51:07,120 –> 00:51:09,560
\nof those things that we just
\nlooked at before about what <\/p>\n
989
\n00:51:09,560 –> 00:51:11,880
\nhappened as a result of Adam and
\nEve’s sin. <\/p>\n
990
\n00:51:12,200 –> 00:51:14,760
\nAnd that’s right there in clause
\nfive of our statement of faith, <\/p>\n
991
\n00:51:14,760 –> 00:51:17,720
\nwhich is good.
\nSo Paul would go on to say in <\/p>\n
992
\n00:51:17,720 –> 00:51:21,480
\nRomans 8 then that to be
\ncarnally minded is death. <\/p>\n
993
\n00:51:21,640 –> 00:51:23,840
\nSo, you know, if that’s what we
\ndo, if we set our mind on the <\/p>\n
994
\n00:51:23,840 –> 00:51:27,120
\nflesh and the things of the
\nflesh, we end up serving sin. <\/p>\n
995
\n00:51:27,120 –> 00:51:30,000
\nWe serve the devil and all.
\nAnd if you do that, if we’re <\/p>\n
996
\n00:51:30,000 –> 00:51:33,320
\ncarnally minded, it’s death.
\nBut to be spiritually minded is <\/p>\n
997
\n00:51:33,320 –> 00:51:37,760
\nlife and peace because the
\ncarnal mind is enmity with God, <\/p>\n
998
\n00:51:38,280 –> 00:51:41,520
\nfor it is not subject to the law
\nof God, nor indeed can be. <\/p>\n
999
\n00:51:42,000 –> 00:51:45,080
\nSo then those who are in the
\nflesh cannot please God. <\/p>\n
1000
\n00:51:45,080 –> 00:51:47,800
\nAnd, and you can see how Paul
\nuses that phrase in the flesh. <\/p>\n
1001
\n00:51:47,800 –> 00:51:50,000
\nIn the flesh doesn’t mean that
\nyou’re just mortal and you’re <\/p>\n
1002
\n00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:52,000
\nalive today and you’re living
\nlife right now. <\/p>\n
1003
\n00:51:52,360 –> 00:51:56,160
\nIn the flesh to him means that
\nyou’re living a way of life in <\/p>\n
1004
\n00:51:56,160 –> 00:51:58,640
\nwhich you satisfy the will of
\nthe flesh. <\/p>\n
1005
\n00:51:58,960 –> 00:52:02,560
\nThis is your will versus God’s
\nwill, and his goal is to win <\/p>\n
1006
\n00:52:02,600 –> 00:52:07,840
\nyour will over to his.
\nSo God condemned sin in the body<\/p>\n
1007
\n00:52:07,840 –> 00:52:10,360
\nof Jesus Christ.
\nPut him up on the pole like the <\/p>\n
1008
\n00:52:10,360 –> 00:52:14,280
\nserpent in the wilderness to
\nhave a moral impact on our life.<\/p>\n
1009
\n00:52:14,760 –> 00:52:16,640
\nIt’s supposed to change how we
\nlive. <\/p>\n
1010
\n00:52:16,960 –> 00:52:19,800
\nIt’s, it’s sort of sad in our
\ncommunity that because of the, <\/p>\n
1011
\n00:52:19,800 –> 00:52:22,520
\nthe use of the cross by the
\nCatholic Church, so often we’re <\/p>\n
1012
\n00:52:22,520 –> 00:52:25,560
\nafraid to even look at pictures
\nof the cross or Jesus on the <\/p>\n
1013
\n00:52:25,560 –> 00:52:29,240
\ncross.
\nWhen God intended that to be a <\/p>\n
1014
\n00:52:29,240 –> 00:52:33,480
\nmotivating factor in your life,
\nthe most powerful motivating <\/p>\n
1015
\n00:52:33,480 –> 00:52:37,360
\nfactor to change how you live,
\nthat we really should be looking<\/p>\n
1016
\n00:52:37,360 –> 00:52:40,840
\nat Christ on the cross.
\nWe should have that as an icon <\/p>\n
1017
\n00:52:40,840 –> 00:52:44,160
\nin in our minds to realize every
\nday we’ve been asked to pick up <\/p>\n
1018
\n00:52:44,160 –> 00:52:47,840
\nour cross and follow him as we
\nare baptized. <\/p>\n
1019
\n00:52:47,840 –> 00:52:52,000
\nWe put the old man to death.
\nWe commit ourselves to put sin, <\/p>\n
1020
\n00:52:52,400 –> 00:52:56,680
\nsin, not just personal sins, but
\nthe whole thing to death so that<\/p>\n
1021
\n00:52:56,680 –> 00:52:59,400
\nwe might live for God and do the
\nwill of our Father. <\/p>\n
1022
\n00:52:59,400 –> 00:53:01,720
\nThis is what He had intended.
\nThis is what the <\/p>\n
1023
\n00:53:01,720 –> 00:53:05,240
\nChristadelphians understand that
\nthe other churches don’t. <\/p>\n
1024
\n00:53:05,520 –> 00:53:08,520
\nThis is the part of our
\ncommunity that is the core of <\/p>\n
1025
\n00:53:08,520 –> 00:53:12,320
\nour belief system as to why our
\ndoctrines matter in what we <\/p>\n
1026
\n00:53:12,320 –> 00:53:14,360
\nbelieve.
\nThis is what God will use to <\/p>\n
1027
\n00:53:14,360 –> 00:53:17,760
\nmotivate you to develop the
\nfaith of Hebrews 11 to change <\/p>\n
1028
\n00:53:17,760 –> 00:53:20,840
\nthe way you live, and yet you’ll
\nkeep this faith unto the end. <\/p>\n
1029
\n00:53:21,320 –> 00:53:22,800
\nThis is really what it’s all
\nabout. <\/p>\n
1030
\n00:53:23,400 –> 00:53:25,720
\nSo when Adam and Eve left the
\ngarden, in the end, when they <\/p>\n
1031
\n00:53:25,720 –> 00:53:28,440
\nwalk out of the garden, they’ve
\nnow got 2 problems. <\/p>\n
1032
\n00:53:28,440 –> 00:53:31,520
\nThey walk out of the garden now
\nas mortals and they walk out of <\/p>\n
1033
\n00:53:31,520 –> 00:53:34,760
\nthe garden now with a nature
\nthat’s biased to sin. <\/p>\n
1034
\n00:53:34,800 –> 00:53:37,520
\nIt’s prone to sin.
\nOr his brother Harry Tennant, <\/p>\n
1035
\n00:53:37,520 –> 00:53:40,160
\nwhen he grew, when he drew the
\npictures of what they were like <\/p>\n
1036
\n00:53:40,160 –> 00:53:42,920
\nbefore and then he drew them.
\nNow he just said they’re sort of<\/p>\n
1037
\n00:53:42,920 –> 00:53:45,560
\nleaning over now.
\nThey’re now of the earth and now<\/p>\n
1038
\n00:53:45,560 –> 00:53:47,880
\nthey’re leaning towards
\nsatisfying the flesh. <\/p>\n
1039
\n00:53:48,320 –> 00:53:52,000
\nAnd so God’s redempt, the plan
\ndealt with both. <\/p>\n
1040
\n00:53:52,440 –> 00:53:55,600
\nAnd I, I say that because
\nsometimes all we do is emphasize<\/p>\n
1041
\n00:53:55,600 –> 00:53:59,120
\n1 and we miss the other.
\nAnd really what God intended to <\/p>\n
1042
\n00:53:59,120 –> 00:54:04,200
\ndo was go after sin, all of it
\nin its root and in its cause. <\/p>\n
1043
\n00:54:04,400 –> 00:54:06,960
\nAnd that’s what you’ll see in
\nthe life of Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n
1044
\n00:54:07,240 –> 00:54:09,760
\nAnd what we’ll do in the second
\nclass is have a look, hopefully,<\/p>\n
1045
\n00:54:09,760 –> 00:54:14,000
\nGod willing, at the at how God
\ndeals with both of those in US <\/p>\n
1046
\n00:54:14,000 –> 00:54:16,400
\nand specifically in the Lord
\nJesus Christ. <\/p>\n
1047
\n00:54:16,840 –> 00:54:20,160
\nAnd we’ll have a look at how God
\nset out to redeem us from this <\/p>\n
1048
\n00:54:20,160 –> 00:54:24,200
\nand his plan of atonement.
\nAnd his plan doesn’t just deal <\/p>\n
1049
\n00:54:24,200 –> 00:54:27,080
\nwith our personal
\ntransgressions, it deals with <\/p>\n
1050
\n00:54:27,080 –> 00:54:30,000
\nthose and it deals with our
\nnature. <\/p>\n
1051
\n00:54:30,240 –> 00:54:34,240
\nGod set out to work on our
\nnature and help us to find ways <\/p>\n
1052
\n00:54:34,240 –> 00:54:36,520
\nto fight it.
\nAnd that’s what his redemptive <\/p>\n
1053
\n00:54:36,520 –> 00:54:38,400
\nplan will do.
\nAnd we’ll have a look at that in<\/p>\n
1054
\n00:54:38,400 –> 00:54:40,880
\nclass to God willing.
\nThanks.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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