{"id":1432,"date":"2026-02-01T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-02-01T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/385-jim-styles-god-did-redeem-his-son\/"},"modified":"2026-08-03T23:41:13","modified_gmt":"2026-08-03T23:41:13","slug":"385-jim-styles-god-did-redeem-his-son","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/385-jim-styles-god-did-redeem-his-son\/","title":{"rendered":"385: Jim Styles – God Did Redeem His Son"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week’s talk is a class by Brother Jim Styles from his series, “God’s Wonderful Plan of Redemption”, this is class 2 titled “God Did Redeem His Son”. We believe he gave this at Victoria, BC, Canada, in 2013.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to Good Christophian
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\nthis week’s talk.
\nHey everyone, this is Jason <\/p>\n

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\nHensley, and this week we are
\nlistening to a class by our <\/p>\n

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\nbrother Jim Styles.
\nBrother Jim gave this class at <\/p>\n

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\nthe Victoria Hall.
\nI was trying to figure out what <\/p>\n

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\nyear seems to me that we’re
\nlooking at about 15, maybe 10 <\/p>\n

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\nyears ago, something along those
\nlines. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd this is class #2 in his
\nseries called God’s Wonderful <\/p>\n

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\nPlan of Redemption.
\nNow, I’ve actually heard the <\/p>\n

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\nseries numerous times, and I
\nhave to tell you, every time I <\/p>\n

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\nhear it, I absolutely love it.
\nAnd the reason for that is <\/p>\n

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\nbecause I feel like the
\natonement is something that <\/p>\n

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\nsometimes becomes unnecessarily
\ncomplicated because there’s been<\/p>\n

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\na lot of weird stuff that’s gone
\non about it in the past. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd you know, what happens in
\nthis class and really in this <\/p>\n

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\nwhole series is Brother Jim just
\nwalks through what’s the big <\/p>\n

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\nfocus of the atonement?
\nWhat was God doing with the <\/p>\n

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\natonement?
\nWhat was Christ’s death and <\/p>\n

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\nresurrection really all about?
\nAnd he simplifies it so that we <\/p>\n

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\ncan really grasp and focus on
\nwhat actually matters here. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I just love that.
\nSo I recommend listen to the <\/p>\n

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\nwhole series.
\nI chose this class in particular<\/p>\n

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\nbecause I felt like he really
\npulled out the fact that <\/p>\n

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\nsometimes we get all thrown off
\nwhen we look at the death of <\/p>\n

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\nChrist because we try and view
\nit through this lens of the <\/p>\n

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\nsacrifices or something like
\nthat. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd yes, the sacrifices were
\nsupposed to teach us about <\/p>\n

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\nChrist, but if we approach his
\ndeath and its meaning through <\/p>\n

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\nthe lens of the sacrifices, then
\nwe’re acting as though we have <\/p>\n

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\nno better opportunity than those
\nwho had to live under the <\/p>\n

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\nsacrificial system.
\nAnd yet now we see the full <\/p>\n

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\npicture, we can actually see the
\nLord Jesus, we can learn about <\/p>\n

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\nhim and now we can go back and
\nsay, aha, now we understand the <\/p>\n

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\nsacrifices.
\nSo I just, I love the emphasis <\/p>\n

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\nthat he has on that and
\nultimately on this changes who <\/p>\n

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\nwe are.
\nThat’s what this is all about. <\/p>\n

44
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\nGod is creating new people
\nthrough the death and <\/p>\n

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\nresurrection of Christ.
\nSo this is Brother Jim Stiles, <\/p>\n

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\nGod’s wonderful plan of
\nredemption. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is class #2 God did redeem
\nHis Son. <\/p>\n

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\nAll right, so the game plan
\nright now is to have a look at <\/p>\n

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\nreally finish up part of the
\nfirst class, and then we’ll look<\/p>\n

50
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\nat what God did with his Son and
\nredeeming his own Son, Jesus <\/p>\n

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\nChrist.
\nSo we finished off that first <\/p>\n

52
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\nclass going back to a lot of the
\nSunday school material that <\/p>\n

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\nprobably many of you have looked
\nat for many years and read. <\/p>\n

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\nBut it’s good to review those
\npassages to see the whole <\/p>\n

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\npicture of what God has done and
\nreally and appreciate the love <\/p>\n

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\nof God.
\nSo you end up then with the fact<\/p>\n

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\nthat what God considers is he
\nlooks at sin over all, not just <\/p>\n

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\nthe personal sins that we
\ncommit, but when the Bible <\/p>\n

59
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\nrefers to sin, that we are no
\nlonger slaves of sin. <\/p>\n

60
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\nPaul’s treating sin as though
\nit’s like a king, it’s like a <\/p>\n

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\nmaster that you can serve, and
\nhe’s looking at sin and its <\/p>\n

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\nwhole process.
\nSo what God did then is that <\/p>\n

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\nwhen nobody else could save, God
\nsent forth his Son and sent him <\/p>\n

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\nto save all of us.
\nSo when Paul is, as he points <\/p>\n

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\nout in Romans 1 and Romans 2,
\nPaul lays out a wonderful case <\/p>\n

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\nof the fact that no Jew could
\nsave themselves, no Gentile <\/p>\n

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\ncould save themselves, that all
\nthe earth was held guilty before<\/p>\n

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\nGod.
\nAnd so he points out in verse 9,<\/p>\n

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\nwhat then?
\nAre we better than they? <\/p>\n

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\nWe Jews he’s talking about, are
\nwe better? <\/p>\n

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\nThan them no, not at all.
\nFor we have previously charged <\/p>\n

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\nthat both Jews and Greeks, they
\nare all under sin. <\/p>\n

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\nAll of us are under this and and
\nhe. <\/p>\n

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\nSees.
\nThis sin as the <\/p>\n

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\nall-encompassing, the root and
\nthe ’cause as it is written. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd he goes back and shows them
\nfrom their Old Testament <\/p>\n

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\nScriptures.
\nThis is what the Bible had said <\/p>\n

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\nall along.
\nThere is none righteous, no, not<\/p>\n

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\none.
\nThere is none who understands. <\/p>\n

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\nThere is none who seeks after
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nThey have all turned aside.
\nThey have all together become <\/p>\n

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\nunprofitable.
\nThere is none who does good. <\/p>\n

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\nNo, not one.
\nAnd So what God did, brother and<\/p>\n

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\nhis sisters, and His love, His
\ncompassion, His kindness, His <\/p>\n

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\nmercy.
\nWhen he realized that nobody <\/p>\n

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\nwould ever be able to rise up to
\nbe the Redeemer, He sent forth <\/p>\n

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\nhis Son.
\nAnd that’s what our God did. <\/p>\n

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\nHe intervened in the problem and
\nrealized that we needed help or <\/p>\n

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\nas Isaiah 59 points out, when
\ndealing with all of our <\/p>\n

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\ntransgressions and and and the
\nwhole chapter is showing how our<\/p>\n

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\nnatural tendency is to get all
\nhung up in ritualism and what <\/p>\n

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\nreal, you know, real giving our
\nlife to God is really all about.<\/p>\n

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\nBut he talks about our
\ntransgressions in verse 12 are <\/p>\n

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\nmultiplied before you and our
\nsins testify against us. <\/p>\n

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\nOur transgressions are with us,
\nand As for our iniquities, we <\/p>\n

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\nknow them.
\nBut he ends up that section <\/p>\n

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\nthere in verse 16, when he saw
\nthat there was no man and <\/p>\n

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\nwondered that there was no
\nintercessor. <\/p>\n

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\nTherefore his own arm brought
\nsalvation for him, and his own, <\/p>\n

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\nhis own righteousness, it
\nsustained him. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so that’s what God did.
\nThat’s what our loving heavenly <\/p>\n

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\nFather did.
\nWhen there was none who could <\/p>\n

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\nsave us, He sent forth His Son
\nand he sent his Son then to deal<\/p>\n

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\nwith as Paul says, he condemned
\nsin, the cause and the effect, <\/p>\n

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\nthe root and the personal
\ntransgressions. <\/p>\n

106
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\nHe condemned them in the flesh
\nof Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what God has done then,
\nbrothers and sisters, with that <\/p>\n

108
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\nact is provided us with the
\nmoral power to conquer sin. <\/p>\n

109
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\nThis is why the cross Paul would
\nsay that, you know, I decided to<\/p>\n

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\nknow nothing among you but Jesus
\nChrist and him crucified, or <\/p>\n

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\nwhat he would say is, is the
\npower of the cross. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is the power that this
\nevent has on our life. <\/p>\n

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\nSo what God did then is He
\ndecided, all right, we need <\/p>\n

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\nhelp.
\nNone of these people are going <\/p>\n

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\nto be able to save themselves.
\n6000 years the angels had worked<\/p>\n

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\nwith men weren’t able to provide
\na Savior. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so God sent forth His Son.
\nAnd in John 1, the Word was sent<\/p>\n

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\nforth and the Word became flesh
\nin verse 14, and it dwelt among <\/p>\n

119
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\nus.
\nWe beheld His glory, the glory <\/p>\n

120
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\nas the only begotten of the
\nFather, full of grace and truth,<\/p>\n

121
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\nbecause Jesus came then, having
\ncome from his Father. <\/p>\n

122
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\nAnd now this bias to sin is now
\nbeing counteracted by a bias to <\/p>\n

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\nlove a Father.
\nAnd God sent forth his Son and <\/p>\n

124
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\nthe Word was made flesh.
\nBecause now we have one, one of <\/p>\n

125
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\nour race who has the potential
\nto actually defeat the devil, to<\/p>\n

126
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\ndefeat all of sin.
\nThe nature itself that that that<\/p>\n

127
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\ncauses them and the personal
\ntransgressions. <\/p>\n

128
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\nOr as Hebrews 2 puts it, when
\nPaul’s showing how it was so <\/p>\n

129
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\nessential that Jesus Christ come
\nin our nature, that he be one of<\/p>\n

130
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\nus who had like the devil in him
\nlike we do. <\/p>\n

131
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\nIn chapter 1 of Hebrews, he
\nshows how the angels couldn’t <\/p>\n

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\nsave you.
\nAs great as they were, they <\/p>\n

133
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\ncould not save you, because they
\ndon’t have this, They don’t <\/p>\n

134
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\nshare this nature with us.
\nBut Jesus Christ did. <\/p>\n

135
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\nAnd in as much as the children
\nhave partaken of flesh and <\/p>\n

136
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\nblood, He himself likewise
\nshared in the same that through <\/p>\n

137
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\ndeath He might destroy him who
\nhad the power of death. <\/p>\n

138
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\nAnd when he uses that phrase
\nthat through death, he’s looking<\/p>\n

139
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\nat the whole process of the
\ndeath of Christ. <\/p>\n

140
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\nHe’s looking at what Peter would
\nsay, that when he was reviled, <\/p>\n

141
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\nhe didn’t revile in return.
\nWhen he was threatened, he <\/p>\n

142
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\ndidn’t suffer, but he took the
\nnature that we have, this nature<\/p>\n

143
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\nthat’s so biased to sin, and he
\ntook it up to the cross, nailed <\/p>\n

144
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\nit to the tree, and God
\ncondemned sin and the body of <\/p>\n

145
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\nhis Son.
\nGod won the victory that day, <\/p>\n

146
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\nand Jesus Christ cooperated with
\nit. <\/p>\n

147
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\nThey destroyed the devil that
\nwas in him and because he did <\/p>\n

148
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\nthat, he is now able to release
\nthose who through fear of death <\/p>\n

149
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\nwere all their lifetime subject
\nto bondage. <\/p>\n

150
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\nThat’s why in the Bible it’s
\npresented so much that he did it<\/p>\n

151
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\nfor us.
\nHe did it for his brethren, for <\/p>\n

152
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\nhis family.
\nHe knew it was the only way to <\/p>\n

153
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\nredeem us was that one of the
\nrace had to take the devil to <\/p>\n

154
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\nthe tree and nail it to the tree
\nand, and declare the Father <\/p>\n

155
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\nright for all the things that he
\nhad done. <\/p>\n

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\ngrant immortality to all those
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\nreally in Christ Jesus.
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\nthey lead a life, a life of
\nliving in Christ Jesus. <\/p>\n

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\nSo if you had the job of
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\nlook at concepts like this that
\nif you were going to explain <\/p>\n

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\nGod’s plan of redemption, and
\nnow I ask you to explain it to <\/p>\n

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\nme, but I’m not going to let you
\nuse words like sacrifices and <\/p>\n

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\nofferings and all those common
\nterms that we love to use. <\/p>\n

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\nWhen we go to explain about the
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\nplan of redemption, you’re going
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\nYou can’t use the terms of the
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\nYou can’t go back to the shadows
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\nshadows.
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\nReally explain the plan of
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\nWhere would you go and how would
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\nHas somebody already done that
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\nThat’s the first question I want
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\ndone that?
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\nexplain it without all of that,
\nbecause the law was only <\/p>\n

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\nshadows.
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\nSo when the apostle Paul penned
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\nyou realize that he wrote his
\nexposition of the atonement <\/p>\n

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\nwithout talking about sacrifices
\nand offerings and the devil? <\/p>\n

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\nDo you ever notice that he
\npurposely leaves those out? <\/p>\n

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\nHe puts them in, in Hebrews.
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\nHe, you know, he destroyed him
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\nThat is the devil.
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\nRomans because that was too
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\nHe doesn’t mention sacrifices
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\nRomans, and he doesn’t mention
\nofferings. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd instead, he gives us a
\nstraightforward exposition of <\/p>\n

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\nwhat God really did in Christ
\nJesus. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd after you study Romans, then
\nyou can go look at Hebrews and <\/p>\n

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\nfind out, well, here’s how he
\nthen shows that this fulfilled <\/p>\n

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\ntry to do it the other way.
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\nour community is we end up
\ntrying to force the work that <\/p>\n

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\nGod was doing back into the
\nshadows and misunderstand that. <\/p>\n

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\nWait a minute.
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\nSon.
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\nto go to the book of Romans if
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\nexposition on what God really
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\nup the word sacrifice in the
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\nsacrifice, holy and acceptable
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\nHe understood it so well, and he
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\nunderstood it so well.
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\nideas about sacrifices and <\/p>\n

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\nofferings for a minute, really
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\nHe wants to, he’s going to beat
\nsin. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s going to defeat Amalek in
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\nThis is his game plan that he
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\nwho would completely believe <\/p>\n

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\nthat God is right, His way is
\nright, he’s just, He’s truth. <\/p>\n

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\nswallowed up in the will of God,
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\nhis Father.
\nNo, that’s what we’ve got in <\/p>\n

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\nblood shedding death that
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\ndeclared God right.
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\nright in putting us and
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\nand requiring that we commit to
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\nFather had made, and this is
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\ngoing to show, really tell all
\nof us, that this is how God’s <\/p>\n

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\nchildren live.
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\nto live as members of His
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\nAnd his obedient death was going
\nto condemn and destroy sin. <\/p>\n

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\nSo you have both aspects in the
\ndeath of Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nOne of them is showing us that
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\nThe other one is demonstrating
\nthat when he was reviled, he <\/p>\n

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\ndidn’t revile in return.
\nYou live a life. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is a life to be lived
\nthat’s in obedience to God, and <\/p>\n

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\nthis was all going to be real.
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\nThis is not sacrifices and
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\nof legalistic stuff under the
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\nrighteousness of God, and that’s
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\ndestroying of the devil.
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\nit and his bloodshedding death
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\nThat’s what it was going to do. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s why there was a
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\nSin was going to be destroyed.
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\nmorning in the exhortation.
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\nAnd instead the Bible says look
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\nnailed it up there and crucified
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\nI’m destroying sin and I’m going
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\nThose people who.
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\nHe just joined with Christ and a
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\na life like his.
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\nThis is what the
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\nas a community for all these
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\nGod’s sentence on sin, the whole<\/p>\n

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\nsentence on, on sin, on the root
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\nThat’s what the clearing the
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\nSo when you look at, well, why
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\nWhy did it have to be somebody
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\nWell, that makes the issue
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\nIt’s not, you know, when, when
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\nconcept so nobody could miss it.
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\nIt was the human nature.
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\nbore in himself.
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\nThat’s what was being condemned
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\nThis is what he did up on a
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\nSure, he he didn’t deserve to
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\nbody of sin, this nature that’s
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\nGod’s children, He had to deal
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\ncan righteously forgive our
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\nThis is how God worked out a
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\nlooking at how can he just like
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\nmyself, we all sin.
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\nlook at us and say, I’m not
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\nyou or against you or you or you
\nor anybody in this room. <\/p>\n

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\nand God. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:40,200 –> 00:17:42,400
\nThen I can then righteously
\nforgive your sins. <\/p>\n

325
\n00:17:42,400 –> 00:17:44,880
\nYou’ve joined me.
\nYou’ve like joined his team and <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:44,880 –> 00:17:46,520
\nyou accept the way he looks at
\nit. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:46,760 –> 00:17:50,600
\nAnd now he can forgive us by his
\ngrace through Jesus Christ our <\/p>\n

328
\n00:17:50,600 –> 00:17:52,200
\nLord.
\nNow you’ll notice when you <\/p>\n

329
\n00:17:52,200 –> 00:17:55,280
\ndescribe it that way, it’s the,
\nthere’s nothing about punishment<\/p>\n

330
\n00:17:55,280 –> 00:17:58,200
\ngoing on in the crucifixion of
\nChrist and, and, and God’s <\/p>\n

331
\n00:17:58,440 –> 00:18:01,640
\ndestruction of sin.
\nSo often when we describe it, we<\/p>\n

332
\n00:18:01,640 –> 00:18:03,360
\nwant to use the words
\npunishment. <\/p>\n

333
\n00:18:03,600 –> 00:18:05,680
\nWe want to pull in the words
\ndeserve. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:05,880 –> 00:18:08,240
\nAnd we do this.
\nWe this is what we do sometimes <\/p>\n

335
\n00:18:08,240 –> 00:18:10,920
\nwhen we’re explaining this.
\nBut you’ll notice when Paul <\/p>\n

336
\n00:18:10,920 –> 00:18:14,320
\nwrites about it in Romans 1 to
\n8, he doesn’t use these words. <\/p>\n

337
\n00:18:14,600 –> 00:18:17,240
\nHe doesn’t talk about us
\ndeserving punishment. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:18:17,240 –> 00:18:19,800
\nAnd that this is what Jesus
\nChrist was doing is showing us <\/p>\n

339
\n00:18:19,800 –> 00:18:22,800
\nthe punishment that we deserve.
\nYou won’t find that in Paul’s <\/p>\n

340
\n00:18:22,800 –> 00:18:25,320
\nexposition, but you’ll find that
\nin the writings in our <\/p>\n

341
\n00:18:25,320 –> 00:18:27,960
\ncommunity.
\nYou won’t find this idea of, of,<\/p>\n

342
\n00:18:28,520 –> 00:18:31,080
\nof Christ deserving it because
\nhe had our nature, that he <\/p>\n

343
\n00:18:31,080 –> 00:18:32,600
\ndeserved to be up there on the
\ntree. <\/p>\n

344
\n00:18:32,600 –> 00:18:34,920
\nAnd that isn’t in Paul’s
\nexposition at all. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:18:35,400 –> 00:18:39,840
\nAnd it wasn’t just for us,
\nalthough the Bible emphasizes <\/p>\n

346
\n00:18:39,840 –> 00:18:43,320
\nthat over and over again, that
\nthat was the motive of Jesus <\/p>\n

347
\n00:18:43,320 –> 00:18:46,840
\nChrist.
\nHis motive was to save us. <\/p>\n

348
\n00:18:47,040 –> 00:18:50,320
\nThat’s why he went through it.
\nIt probably wasn’t worth it for <\/p>\n

349
\n00:18:50,320 –> 00:18:54,040
\nhimself, but he had all of us in
\nmind and he wanted to please his<\/p>\n

350
\n00:18:54,040 –> 00:18:56,640
\nfather and he went through it
\nfor us. <\/p>\n

351
\n00:18:56,880 –> 00:19:00,400
\nAnd that’s what the Bible
\nemphasizes as his motive, <\/p>\n

352
\n00:19:00,640 –> 00:19:04,440
\nbecause that’s what will
\nconvince us to do it too. <\/p>\n

353
\n00:19:05,040 –> 00:19:07,400
\nI bet a lot of you over there,
\nespecially as younger people, <\/p>\n

354
\n00:19:07,400 –> 00:19:09,600
\nsometimes you start looking at
\nyour life and you think, is this<\/p>\n

355
\n00:19:09,600 –> 00:19:12,200
\nreally worth it?
\nIs it really worth it for me to <\/p>\n

356
\n00:19:12,200 –> 00:19:15,200
\ngo through this just for me?
\nAnd some of you will end up <\/p>\n

357
\n00:19:15,200 –> 00:19:17,560
\nanalyzing that and say, no, it
\nisn’t worth it. <\/p>\n

358
\n00:19:18,000 –> 00:19:20,880
\nBut when you’re married to a
\nspouse and you have children and<\/p>\n

359
\n00:19:20,880 –> 00:19:23,800
\nyou have an ecclesia and a
\nfamily that you care about, all <\/p>\n

360
\n00:19:23,800 –> 00:19:26,240
\nof a sudden you realize it’s not
\njust about me. <\/p>\n

361
\n00:19:26,440 –> 00:19:29,160
\nIt’s about all those other
\npeople that we’ve come to save. <\/p>\n

362
\n00:19:29,520 –> 00:19:32,120
\nAnd that’s what motivated Christ
\nto go through it. <\/p>\n

363
\n00:19:32,320 –> 00:19:34,760
\nAnd you’ll see that’s the
\nemphasis all the way through the<\/p>\n

364
\n00:19:34,760 –> 00:19:38,160
\nNew Testament.
\nHe did it for us because that’s <\/p>\n

365
\n00:19:38,160 –> 00:19:42,000
\nwhat is the motivating power.
\nThis is the power of the cross, <\/p>\n

366
\n00:19:42,240 –> 00:19:45,680
\nand he went through it himself.
\nSo what was the purpose then of <\/p>\n

367
\n00:19:45,680 –> 00:19:48,240
\nall those sacrifices?
\nWhy did God have people going <\/p>\n

368
\n00:19:48,240 –> 00:19:50,800
\nthrough this for years, for
\nthousands of years? <\/p>\n

369
\n00:19:50,800 –> 00:19:52,760
\nThey went through all those
\nanimal sacrifices. <\/p>\n

370
\n00:19:53,000 –> 00:19:56,160
\nWhat were they supposed to do?
\nWell, they were shadows. <\/p>\n

371
\n00:19:56,720 –> 00:19:59,760
\nThat’s what they were.
\nThey were shadows predicting a <\/p>\n

372
\n00:19:59,760 –> 00:20:03,640
\ntime that was coming, and they
\nwere shadows that show different<\/p>\n

373
\n00:20:03,640 –> 00:20:06,760
\naspects of the atoning work of
\nJesus Christ. <\/p>\n

374
\n00:20:07,080 –> 00:20:09,720
\nThey were shadows that were
\nsupposed to teach people about <\/p>\n

375
\n00:20:09,760 –> 00:20:13,480
\nthe destruction of the devil of
\nsin was going to be destroyed. <\/p>\n

376
\n00:20:13,960 –> 00:20:18,480
\nBut Christ’s death wasn’t simply
\nthe best sacrifice, brothers and<\/p>\n

377
\n00:20:18,480 –> 00:20:20,080
\nsisters.
\nThat’s not what he was. <\/p>\n

378
\n00:20:20,320 –> 00:20:22,880
\nOh no.
\nHe was the real work. <\/p>\n

379
\n00:20:23,200 –> 00:20:27,120
\nThat sacrifice was designed to
\nteach by shadow. <\/p>\n

380
\n00:20:27,480 –> 00:20:29,120
\nThat’s really what it was all
\nabout. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:20:29,120 –> 00:20:32,640
\nSo when you see Jesus Christ up
\non the pole and you see our New <\/p>\n

382
\n00:20:32,640 –> 00:20:35,800
\nTestament expositors talking
\nabout that teaching us. <\/p>\n

383
\n00:20:36,000 –> 00:20:38,760
\nThat we must.
\nDie to sin and live to God. <\/p>\n

384
\n00:20:38,960 –> 00:20:42,120
\nThen you go back to the animal
\nsacrifices and realize that when<\/p>\n

385
\n00:20:42,120 –> 00:20:45,040
\nyou laid your hands on an animal
\nand you brought your animal to <\/p>\n

386
\n00:20:45,040 –> 00:20:47,840
\nthe high priest or to the priest
\nthat was there, and you picked <\/p>\n

387
\n00:20:47,840 –> 00:20:52,800
\nout an animal that was without
\nblemish, without blemish, that’s<\/p>\n

388
\n00:20:52,800 –> 00:20:56,160
\nnot me, that’s Jesus Christ.
\nAnd you bring your animal to the<\/p>\n

389
\n00:20:56,160 –> 00:20:58,880
\nhigh priest or the priest, and
\nyou lay your hands on that <\/p>\n

390
\n00:20:58,880 –> 00:21:02,200
\nanimal and you acknowledge the
\nfact that that man is going to <\/p>\n

391
\n00:21:02,200 –> 00:21:04,640
\ndie and I’m going to die with
\nhim. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:21:04,800 –> 00:21:08,200
\nThis is Romans 6.
\nThis is what Paul explains in <\/p>\n

393
\n00:21:08,200 –> 00:21:11,160
\nRomans 6 that animal sacrifice
\nwas supposed to do. <\/p>\n

394
\n00:21:11,400 –> 00:21:14,840
\nIt’s what our baptism does.
\nYou identify with Him, you are <\/p>\n

395
\n00:21:14,840 –> 00:21:18,640
\nfound in Him, not having a
\nrighteousness of our own, but <\/p>\n

396
\n00:21:18,640 –> 00:21:22,120
\none that’s based on faith, that
\nwe commit to die with Christ, to<\/p>\n

397
\n00:21:22,120 –> 00:21:26,880
\nsin, and because of that, God.
\nBrings us into his family and he<\/p>\n

398
\n00:21:26,880 –> 00:21:30,720
\nforgives us of all our mistakes
\nand this is what God was trying <\/p>\n

399
\n00:21:30,720 –> 00:21:34,640
\nto teach all those years and
\ninstead people turned it into <\/p>\n

400
\n00:21:34,640 –> 00:21:37,200
\nsome substitutionary.
\nThing while the animal dies <\/p>\n

401
\n00:21:37,200 –> 00:21:40,000
\ninstead of me and I’m free to go
\non and just do what I want. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:21:40,320 –> 00:21:43,280
\nAnd they always had this
\nsubstitution stuff and we don’t <\/p>\n

403
\n00:21:43,280 –> 00:21:44,880
\nwant that coming into our
\ncommunity. <\/p>\n

404
\n00:21:44,880 –> 00:21:46,800
\nThat’s not part of the truth at
\nall. <\/p>\n

405
\n00:21:47,000 –> 00:21:50,920
\nYou won’t ever find a New
\nTestament writer ever using <\/p>\n

406
\n00:21:50,920 –> 00:21:54,040
\nthose words about animal.
\nSacrifice or the sacrifice of <\/p>\n

407
\n00:21:54,040 –> 00:21:57,240
\nJesus Christ?
\nIt was never about substitute or<\/p>\n

408
\n00:21:57,240 –> 00:22:01,000
\ndying instead of you.
\nIt was always that He died as an<\/p>\n

409
\n00:22:01,000 –> 00:22:05,360
\nexample, showing us how to live.
\nThat’s how they always explain <\/p>\n

410
\n00:22:05,360 –> 00:22:07,360
\nit.
\nAnd that’s what God was trying <\/p>\n

411
\n00:22:07,360 –> 00:22:10,240
\nto do with the shadows.
\nBut people misunderstood the <\/p>\n

412
\n00:22:10,240 –> 00:22:12,640
\nshadows.
\nSo don’t forget the shadows in <\/p>\n

413
\n00:22:12,640 –> 00:22:14,800
\nthe law.
\nThey really were just shadows. <\/p>\n

414
\n00:22:14,800 –> 00:22:17,600
\nThey were not the very image.
\nThat’s Paul’s words. <\/p>\n

415
\n00:22:17,640 –> 00:22:21,400
\nThey were not the very image and
\nthey could never make the <\/p>\n

416
\n00:22:21,400 –> 00:22:23,400
\nworshippers perfect.
\nWhy not? <\/p>\n

417
\n00:22:23,400 –> 00:22:26,760
\nBecause he says it couldn’t
\naffect your conscience. <\/p>\n

418
\n00:22:27,360 –> 00:22:29,520
\nYour conscience.
\nYou go through all those <\/p>\n

419
\n00:22:29,520 –> 00:22:32,200
\nprocedures and walk away and
\nthink, oh, you know, that’s just<\/p>\n

420
\n00:22:32,200 –> 00:22:35,840
\nan animal, doesn’t affect me,
\nhas no moral impact on your <\/p>\n

421
\n00:22:35,840 –> 00:22:38,120
\nlife.
\nIt doesn’t convince you to die <\/p>\n

422
\n00:22:38,120 –> 00:22:40,880
\nto sin, doesn’t convince you to
\njoin with Christ when you’re <\/p>\n

423
\n00:22:40,880 –> 00:22:44,080
\njust doing it that way.
\nIt could never affect the <\/p>\n

424
\n00:22:44,080 –> 00:22:46,200
\nconscience of the worshippers,
\nhe says. <\/p>\n

425
\n00:22:46,480 –> 00:22:50,000
\nBut the sacrifice of Christ, oh
\nboy, that better affect our <\/p>\n

426
\n00:22:50,000 –> 00:22:53,480
\nconsciences, because if that one
\ndoesn’t, there’s no hope of God <\/p>\n

427
\n00:22:53,480 –> 00:22:56,440
\nsaving us.
\nThis was his most powerful <\/p>\n

428
\n00:22:56,440 –> 00:22:58,960
\nmotive he could ever give us to
\nchange our lives. <\/p>\n

429
\n00:22:59,320 –> 00:23:02,640
\nThe sacrifice of his Son, the
\ngiving of his Son, of putting <\/p>\n

430
\n00:23:02,640 –> 00:23:05,560
\nsin to death.
\nSo the 3D shadows, when you look<\/p>\n

431
\n00:23:05,560 –> 00:23:08,600
\nback at them, you can see how
\nshadows can sometimes help you <\/p>\n

432
\n00:23:08,600 –> 00:23:10,440
\ncreate an image.
\nBut I’ll just show you here, <\/p>\n

433
\n00:23:10,440 –> 00:23:13,600
\nwhat’s the problem with the law?
\nSo you look at a shadow of a <\/p>\n

434
\n00:23:13,600 –> 00:23:16,360
\ntree like that and you try to
\nfigure out, all right, what kind<\/p>\n

435
\n00:23:16,360 –> 00:23:19,760
\nof tree is that from the shadow?
\nI’m only going to give you 1 <\/p>\n

436
\n00:23:19,760 –> 00:23:22,040
\nshadow.
\nAnd you got to guess and see, oh<\/p>\n

437
\n00:23:22,040 –> 00:23:23,520
\nreally?
\nThat actually came from an oak <\/p>\n

438
\n00:23:23,520 –> 00:23:25,840
\ntree.
\nSo then you look at another one <\/p>\n

439
\n00:23:25,840 –> 00:23:28,400
\nand you say, ah, extra clues
\nthis time. <\/p>\n

440
\n00:23:28,920 –> 00:23:32,120
\nSo by looking at different
\naspects of the law, what <\/p>\n

441
\n00:23:32,120 –> 00:23:34,720
\nsometimes happened when you did
\nan offering, one kind of <\/p>\n

442
\n00:23:34,720 –> 00:23:37,000
\noffering and then another one.
\nAnd then there were the feast <\/p>\n

443
\n00:23:37,000 –> 00:23:39,280
\ndays, and then there was a day
\nof atonement and then this. <\/p>\n

444
\n00:23:39,280 –> 00:23:41,440
\nAnd that’s right.
\nAnd there’s all these different <\/p>\n

445
\n00:23:41,440 –> 00:23:44,560
\ncomponents that God put into the
\nlaw so that you could see <\/p>\n

446
\n00:23:44,560 –> 00:23:48,080
\ndifferent shadows of the real
\nwork that he was aiming at. <\/p>\n

447
\n00:23:48,360 –> 00:23:51,960
\nAnd the more clues you get, the
\nbetter three-dimensional picture<\/p>\n

448
\n00:23:51,960 –> 00:23:54,120
\nyou can create about what this
\nreally is. <\/p>\n

449
\n00:23:54,440 –> 00:23:57,240
\nAnd that’s what he had hoped
\nwould happen with the law. <\/p>\n

450
\n00:23:57,640 –> 00:24:00,480
\nBut the problem was the Jews
\njust took their law and they <\/p>\n

451
\n00:24:00,480 –> 00:24:02,720
\nturned it into something for
\nwhich they could earn their <\/p>\n

452
\n00:24:02,720 –> 00:24:04,960
\nsalvation.
\nSo you can see with that. <\/p>\n

453
\n00:24:04,960 –> 00:24:07,560
\nSee, some shadows are very
\nclear, maybe as to what you <\/p>\n

454
\n00:24:07,560 –> 00:24:10,280
\nthink they are.
\nOther times we need extra help. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:24:10,640 –> 00:24:14,520
\nBut the more detail and the more
\nangles you get, the better the <\/p>\n

456
\n00:24:14,520 –> 00:24:17,680
\nthree-dimensional picture.
\nAnd the better you knew the law <\/p>\n

457
\n00:24:17,720 –> 00:24:20,680
\nand tried to figure out what it
\nwas doing, the better you could <\/p>\n

458
\n00:24:20,680 –> 00:24:24,240
\ndo at understanding the shadows.
\nThe problem with the shadows is <\/p>\n

459
\n00:24:24,240 –> 00:24:26,760
\nthat when you see one shadow, it
\ncan sometimes be very <\/p>\n

460
\n00:24:26,760 –> 00:24:29,520
\nmisleading.
\nAnd as a community, we sometimes<\/p>\n

461
\n00:24:29,520 –> 00:24:32,600
\ndo this and misunderstanding or
\nmisapplying the law. <\/p>\n

462
\n00:24:32,880 –> 00:24:35,200
\nSo you look at that shadow up
\nthere and you say, I know what <\/p>\n

463
\n00:24:35,200 –> 00:24:37,560
\nthat is.
\nAnd then you find out, oops, <\/p>\n

464
\n00:24:37,560 –> 00:24:41,800
\nwasn’t quite what I thought.
\nAnd that’s the problem with <\/p>\n

465
\n00:24:41,800 –> 00:24:45,840
\nshadows, and that’s why you have
\nto be very careful that we don’t<\/p>\n

466
\n00:24:45,840 –> 00:24:50,000
\nbuild our exposition of the
\natonement from the shadows today<\/p>\n

467
\n00:24:50,200 –> 00:24:55,080
\nwhen we have Paul’s and Peters
\nand James’s three-dimensional <\/p>\n

468
\n00:24:55,080 –> 00:24:58,720
\nexposition of what this really
\nwas designed to mean. <\/p>\n

469
\n00:24:59,080 –> 00:25:01,800
\nSo we got to go back and look at
\nwhat actually happened. <\/p>\n

470
\n00:25:02,080 –> 00:25:04,760
\nSo when you start looking at
\nJesus Christ, for example, in <\/p>\n

471
\n00:25:04,760 –> 00:25:09,320
\nrelation to God saving his Son,
\nJesus Christ didn’t need a <\/p>\n

472
\n00:25:09,320 –> 00:25:11,960
\nsacrifice.
\nI’ll say that again. <\/p>\n

473
\n00:25:11,960 –> 00:25:17,480
\nHe didn’t need a sacrifice.
\nHe was the real work that the <\/p>\n

474
\n00:25:17,480 –> 00:25:22,160
\nshadows were designed to teach
\nHe, He didn’t need a sacrifice. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:25:22,160 –> 00:25:27,000
\nHe was the sacrifice.
\nHe was the reality that all <\/p>\n

476
\n00:25:27,000 –> 00:25:30,720
\nthose animal sacrifice were
\ntrying to teach about shadows of<\/p>\n

477
\n00:25:30,720 –> 00:25:35,000
\nthe one who would come and put
\nthe devil to death, put sin to <\/p>\n

478
\n00:25:35,000 –> 00:25:38,960
\ndeath, and declare God right.
\nSo in the letter to the Hebrews,<\/p>\n

479
\n00:25:38,960 –> 00:25:42,880
\nPaul uses all that language of
\nthe law to show the Jews that <\/p>\n

480
\n00:25:43,160 –> 00:25:47,080
\nthe law had predicted that
\nbetter sacrifices were coming, <\/p>\n

481
\n00:25:47,080 –> 00:25:49,840
\nas he says.
\nBut in the letter to the Romans,<\/p>\n

482
\n00:25:49,840 –> 00:25:53,160
\nPaul then gives his exposition
\nwithout even using their <\/p>\n

483
\n00:25:53,160 –> 00:25:56,640
\nlanguage of the law, and he
\nconfronts them without using <\/p>\n

484
\n00:25:56,640 –> 00:26:01,040
\nsacrifices and offerings and
\ntalks about what God did. <\/p>\n

485
\n00:26:01,560 –> 00:26:05,960
\nGod condemned sin in the flesh
\nof Jesus. <\/p>\n

486
\n00:26:05,960 –> 00:26:10,400
\nChrist doesn’t use the word
\nsacrifice because sacrifice is a<\/p>\n

487
\n00:26:10,440 –> 00:26:13,960
\nshadow of that reality.
\nAnd it’s it’s fun to look at <\/p>\n

488
\n00:26:13,960 –> 00:26:17,520
\nthose differences because this
\nis how you start to understand <\/p>\n

489
\n00:26:17,680 –> 00:26:20,760
\nthe way Paul saw at least as you
\nlook at Romans and compare it <\/p>\n

490
\n00:26:20,760 –> 00:26:23,920
\nwith Hebrews.
\nDon’t make Jesus fit the law. <\/p>\n

491
\n00:26:24,120 –> 00:26:27,800
\nHe was the reality that the
\nwhole law was actually based on.<\/p>\n

492
\n00:26:28,240 –> 00:26:30,560
\nSo on the cross when we, when we
\ngive our expositions of the <\/p>\n

493
\n00:26:30,560 –> 00:26:33,520
\natonement, we explain God’s plan
\nof redemption and we see Jesus <\/p>\n

494
\n00:26:33,520 –> 00:26:36,680
\nup there on the pole and
\nsuffering away and sin being put<\/p>\n

495
\n00:26:36,680 –> 00:26:39,080
\nto death.
\nChrist wasn’t suffering somebody<\/p>\n

496
\n00:26:39,080 –> 00:26:41,080
\nelse’s punishment.
\nHe wasn’t suffering your <\/p>\n

497
\n00:26:41,080 –> 00:26:43,200
\npunishment.
\nThe Bible never says that. <\/p>\n

498
\n00:26:43,200 –> 00:26:45,880
\nNo, no New Testament writers
\never say that. <\/p>\n

499
\n00:26:45,880 –> 00:26:48,760
\nHe was suffering the punishment
\nthat you deserve. <\/p>\n

500
\n00:26:49,160 –> 00:26:51,480
\nAnd yet sometimes you’ll hear
\npeople say that, especially in <\/p>\n

501
\n00:26:51,480 –> 00:26:54,440
\nour Christian community today.
\nThey like that because then they<\/p>\n

502
\n00:26:54,440 –> 00:26:57,280
\nsay, well, because you deserve
\nthat punishment and he suffered <\/p>\n

503
\n00:26:57,280 –> 00:26:59,160
\nit for you.
\nHe’s your substitute. <\/p>\n

504
\n00:26:59,160 –> 00:27:03,120
\nHe took it in place of you.
\nBut you won’t find Bible writers<\/p>\n

505
\n00:27:03,360 –> 00:27:06,040
\ntalking about it like that.
\nAnd we don’t want to either. <\/p>\n

506
\n00:27:06,040 –> 00:27:09,280
\nWe don’t want to get into things
\nthat our Bible expositors don’t <\/p>\n

507
\n00:27:09,280 –> 00:27:11,640
\nuse.
\nSo he wasn’t suffering somebody <\/p>\n

508
\n00:27:11,640 –> 00:27:13,840
\nelse’s punishment.
\nHe wasn’t illustrating the <\/p>\n

509
\n00:27:13,840 –> 00:27:16,760
\npunishment that sinners deserve.
\nYou won’t find that either. <\/p>\n

510
\n00:27:16,960 –> 00:27:20,360
\nEven though it’s true that yes,
\nwe deserve to die, that isn’t <\/p>\n

511
\n00:27:20,360 –> 00:27:24,560
\nwhy God put him on the cross.
\nGod put him there to condemn <\/p>\n

512
\n00:27:24,560 –> 00:27:26,640
\nsin.
\nThat’s what he’s there for. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:27:26,880 –> 00:27:29,600
\nEven though it’s true that
\nsinners deserve death, you won’t<\/p>\n

514
\n00:27:29,600 –> 00:27:33,800
\nfind Peter, Paul, James, none of
\nthem look at Jesus Christ on the<\/p>\n

515
\n00:27:33,800 –> 00:27:37,040
\npole and say that was teaching
\nus what we deserve. <\/p>\n

516
\n00:27:37,520 –> 00:27:39,440
\nYou won’t find that.
\nGo ahead and search your Bible <\/p>\n

517
\n00:27:39,440 –> 00:27:42,040
\nall over the place.
\nIt isn’t there because that’s <\/p>\n

518
\n00:27:42,040 –> 00:27:44,680
\nnot the lesson God’s trying to
\nestablish. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:27:45,120 –> 00:27:47,120
\nYou won’t find that He.
\nThat that there are Bible <\/p>\n

520
\n00:27:47,120 –> 00:27:49,760
\nexpositors ever say that he
\ndeserved the cross because he <\/p>\n

521
\n00:27:49,760 –> 00:27:52,200
\nhad human nature?
\nWhere does some New Testament <\/p>\n

522
\n00:27:52,200 –> 00:27:55,960
\nwriter ever say that they don’t
\nBecause he didn’t. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:27:55,960 –> 00:27:57,760
\nDeserve it because he had our
\nnature. <\/p>\n

524
\n00:27:57,920 –> 00:28:00,480
\nIt wasn’t about punishment and
\ndeserve. <\/p>\n

525
\n00:28:00,720 –> 00:28:04,200
\nIt was about a real work of
\ndestroying sin. <\/p>\n

526
\n00:28:04,560 –> 00:28:07,520
\nIt’s not about punishment,
\ndeserve, and all those kind of <\/p>\n

527
\n00:28:07,520 –> 00:28:09,680
\nconcepts.
\nAnd he wasn’t going through some<\/p>\n

528
\n00:28:09,680 –> 00:28:12,000
\nkind of ritual or ceremony to
\nsave us. <\/p>\n

529
\n00:28:12,000 –> 00:28:14,160
\nThere’s nothing ritualistic
\nabout this. <\/p>\n

530
\n00:28:14,400 –> 00:28:18,120
\nThis was a real.
\nCondemning of sin really. <\/p>\n

531
\n00:28:18,160 –> 00:28:20,680
\nGod destroyed him that had the
\npower of death. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:28:20,680 –> 00:28:24,480
\nThat is the devil.
\nHe condemned sin in the body of <\/p>\n

533
\n00:28:24,480 –> 00:28:27,120
\nhis son.
\nThat’s what God really did in. <\/p>\n

534
\n00:28:27,120 –> 00:28:29,480
\nChrist.
\nAnd So what Christ shows us is <\/p>\n

535
\n00:28:29,480 –> 00:28:33,560
\nhe shows us how to live the
\nrighteousness of God in our <\/p>\n

536
\n00:28:33,560 –> 00:28:36,480
\ndaily lives.
\nIt was all about changing how we<\/p>\n

537
\n00:28:36,480 –> 00:28:38,840
\nlive.
\nAnd God’s given us the motive <\/p>\n

538
\n00:28:38,840 –> 00:28:43,400
\npower to change so that we are
\nno longer slaves of sin, but we <\/p>\n

539
\n00:28:43,400 –> 00:28:47,440
\nbecome slaves of righteousness.
\nSo Christ’s death to sin, when <\/p>\n

540
\n00:28:47,440 –> 00:28:49,640
\nyou look at our New Testament
\nwriters, look at how they they <\/p>\n

541
\n00:28:49,640 –> 00:28:53,240
\nrefer to it, you’ll find it in
\nHebrews 2 that he destroyed him <\/p>\n

542
\n00:28:53,240 –> 00:28:55,280
\nthat had the power of death.
\nThat is the devil. <\/p>\n

543
\n00:28:55,520 –> 00:28:58,560
\nFirst John three, He was
\nmanifested to take away our <\/p>\n

544
\n00:28:58,560 –> 00:29:00,920
\nsins.
\nFirst John 3 and 8 For this <\/p>\n

545
\n00:29:00,920 –> 00:29:03,520
\npurpose the Son of God was
\nmanifested, that he might <\/p>\n

546
\n00:29:03,520 –> 00:29:07,600
\ndestroy the works of the devil.
\nIn Hebrews 9 and 26, he’s <\/p>\n

547
\n00:29:07,600 –> 00:29:11,000
\nappeared to put away sin by the
\nsacrifice of himself. <\/p>\n

548
\n00:29:11,440 –> 00:29:15,560
\nJohn one in 29, the Lamb of God
\nwho takes away the sin of the <\/p>\n

549
\n00:29:15,560 –> 00:29:19,640
\nworld and first Peter 2 you
\nknow, he himself bore our sins <\/p>\n

550
\n00:29:19,640 –> 00:29:23,960
\nin his own body on the tree that
\nwe might die to sin and live to <\/p>\n

551
\n00:29:23,960 –> 00:29:26,800
\nrighteousness.
\nIt’s all this is how our New <\/p>\n

552
\n00:29:26,800 –> 00:29:30,320
\nTestament writers use this.
\nIt’s all about putting sin to <\/p>\n

553
\n00:29:30,320 –> 00:29:33,720
\ndeath, that God can forgive our
\nsins and that we lead a <\/p>\n

554
\n00:29:33,760 –> 00:29:36,040
\ndifferent kind of life.
\nThat’s what it was about. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:29:36,320 –> 00:29:38,960
\nAnd now you can see why it was
\nessential that Christ not be an <\/p>\n

556
\n00:29:38,960 –> 00:29:41,960
\nAngel and that he not have some
\nangelic nature, that he not be <\/p>\n

557
\n00:29:41,960 –> 00:29:45,240
\nsome foreign God, the God that
\ncame down and took on a human <\/p>\n

558
\n00:29:45,240 –> 00:29:47,760
\nbody.
\nHe had had to be one of us. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:29:48,040 –> 00:29:52,520
\nHe had to have weak human nature
\nso he could really die to sin, <\/p>\n

560
\n00:29:53,000 –> 00:29:57,680
\nas Paul says, he died to sin
\nonce in, in Romans 6, in first, <\/p>\n

561
\n00:29:57,680 –> 00:30:00,320
\nin the first, in second
\nCorinthians 5 and 21, he was <\/p>\n

562
\n00:30:00,320 –> 00:30:03,560
\nmade sin for us, you know,
\npassages that we’re familiar <\/p>\n

563
\n00:30:03,560 –> 00:30:05,680
\nwith.
\nAnd in, in first Peter two, he <\/p>\n

564
\n00:30:05,680 –> 00:30:07,920
\nbore our sins in his body.
\nHebrews 9. <\/p>\n

565
\n00:30:08,120 –> 00:30:11,040
\nHe was offered to bear the sins
\nof many, but he will come again <\/p>\n

566
\n00:30:11,040 –> 00:30:14,800
\nnot to bear sin.
\nAnd in Romans 8, God condemned <\/p>\n

567
\n00:30:14,800 –> 00:30:18,680
\nsin in the flesh.
\nSo Christ had to have this weak <\/p>\n

568
\n00:30:18,680 –> 00:30:20,720
\nhuman nature so that he could
\nwin his victory. <\/p>\n

569
\n00:30:21,000 –> 00:30:24,160
\nSo when you look at what was
\ngoing on, how God set out to <\/p>\n

570
\n00:30:24,160 –> 00:30:28,760
\ncondemn sin in the flesh, in the
\nbody of Jesus Christ, his Son, <\/p>\n

571
\n00:30:29,240 –> 00:30:31,760
\nyou got the conflict that
\ndevelops within Mary. <\/p>\n

572
\n00:30:31,880 –> 00:30:35,400
\nBecause within Christ, because
\nfrom Mary, he gets the physical <\/p>\n

573
\n00:30:35,400 –> 00:30:37,680
\ndefilement, He inherits
\nmortality. <\/p>\n

574
\n00:30:37,680 –> 00:30:40,280
\nHe inherits this nature that’s
\nso prone to sin. <\/p>\n

575
\n00:30:40,880 –> 00:30:44,080
\nBut from God, what he gets, the
\ncomponent that he gets from his <\/p>\n

576
\n00:30:44,080 –> 00:30:48,480
\nFather is he gets a physical
\npotential for perfect obedience.<\/p>\n

577
\n00:30:48,720 –> 00:30:51,680
\nDidn’t mean he had to be
\nperfectly obedience, but he got <\/p>\n

578
\n00:30:51,680 –> 00:30:55,760
\nthe potential that none of the
\nrest of the race ever had of <\/p>\n

579
\n00:30:55,760 –> 00:30:59,800
\nbecoming the savior of the race.
\nAnd so morning by morning, the <\/p>\n

580
\n00:30:59,800 –> 00:31:04,440
\nscriptures say God wakened him.
\nHe also had a natural bias in <\/p>\n

581
\n00:31:04,440 –> 00:31:07,240
\nsome way to his dad.
\nI think that probably was <\/p>\n

582
\n00:31:07,240 –> 00:31:10,640
\nimportant and in some way that
\nto help him in his fight against<\/p>\n

583
\n00:31:10,640 –> 00:31:13,040
\nsin.
\nAnd this is what God did then as<\/p>\n

584
\n00:31:13,040 –> 00:31:15,320
\nhe created in his son a
\ncomponent. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:31:15,560 –> 00:31:19,880
\nHe has a member of our race now
\nwho has our nature, who has <\/p>\n

586
\n00:31:19,880 –> 00:31:24,400
\nmortality, who has a bias to
\nsin, a proneness to sin that we <\/p>\n

587
\n00:31:24,400 –> 00:31:27,480
\nfeel so that he can feel our
\ntemptations. <\/p>\n

588
\n00:31:27,480 –> 00:31:31,440
\nHe knows what it’s like to look
\nat something and actually want <\/p>\n

589
\n00:31:31,440 –> 00:31:35,000
\nit or to dream about something
\nand possibly think about having <\/p>\n

590
\n00:31:35,000 –> 00:31:36,920
\nit.
\nAnd yet at the same time, he <\/p>\n

591
\n00:31:36,920 –> 00:31:40,320
\ninherits from his father this
\nability that the Father can <\/p>\n

592
\n00:31:40,320 –> 00:31:43,120
\ndevelop in him of overcoming
\nsin. <\/p>\n

593
\n00:31:43,480 –> 00:31:46,480
\nAnd so some people look at that
\nand they say, all right, this <\/p>\n

594
\n00:31:46,480 –> 00:31:49,200
\ndoes that mean that Jesus had an
\nunfair advantage? <\/p>\n

595
\n00:31:49,560 –> 00:31:51,680
\nHe had something that you don’t
\nhave. <\/p>\n

596
\n00:31:52,160 –> 00:31:56,640
\nHe had the physical potential to
\ndevelop perfect obedience. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:31:57,040 –> 00:32:00,600
\nNobody in this room has that.
\nSo is that unfair? <\/p>\n

598
\n00:32:01,120 –> 00:32:03,560
\nWell, you know when you look at
\nthat really, and you think, all <\/p>\n

599
\n00:32:03,560 –> 00:32:05,760
\nright, Christ had that, I don’t
\nhave that. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:32:05,920 –> 00:32:10,000
\nWould you want laid on you the
\nfact that you could never sin? <\/p>\n

601
\n00:32:10,360 –> 00:32:15,520
\nYou can never make one mistake.
\nYou are everybody in the whole <\/p>\n

602
\n00:32:15,520 –> 00:32:19,640
\nroom and the whole city and the
\nwhole community for thousands of<\/p>\n

603
\n00:32:19,640 –> 00:32:21,960
\nyears is counting on you to make
\nit. <\/p>\n

604
\n00:32:22,360 –> 00:32:25,240
\nAnd you look at that and say,
\nwas that an unfair advantage? <\/p>\n

605
\n00:32:25,640 –> 00:32:28,040
\nThat was a huge stressor in his
\nlife. <\/p>\n

606
\n00:32:28,040 –> 00:32:31,880
\nThe pressure was enormous.
\nAnd so, you know, it’s that’s an<\/p>\n

607
\n00:32:31,880 –> 00:32:35,040
\nimportant concept to real about
\nrealize about Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

608
\n00:32:35,160 –> 00:32:37,800
\nSometimes as younger people, we
\nsometimes look at that and say, <\/p>\n

609
\n00:32:37,800 –> 00:32:40,360
\nwell, that’s not fair.
\nHe had something I didn’t have, <\/p>\n

610
\n00:32:40,640 –> 00:32:44,800
\nbut look at what was required of
\nhim that is not required of us. <\/p>\n

611
\n00:32:45,360 –> 00:32:47,760
\nAnd he wasn’t a Superman.
\nThat’s another concept I <\/p>\n

612
\n00:32:47,760 –> 00:32:50,480
\nremember as a younger person
\ngrowing up as a Christadelphian <\/p>\n

613
\n00:32:50,480 –> 00:32:53,320
\nand a Christadelphian Sunday
\nschool with great parents who <\/p>\n

614
\n00:32:53,320 –> 00:32:55,760
\ntaught me the truth.
\nBut at the same time, I had a <\/p>\n

615
\n00:32:55,760 –> 00:32:59,680
\nnatural tendency to think that
\nJesus Christ easily overcame <\/p>\n

616
\n00:32:59,680 –> 00:33:01,880
\nsin.
\nI used to read the temptation in<\/p>\n

617
\n00:33:01,880 –> 00:33:05,360
\nthe in the garden, in the
\nwilderness and you know, if the <\/p>\n

618
\n00:33:05,360 –> 00:33:06,960
\nyou know, turning stones into
\nbread. <\/p>\n

619
\n00:33:07,120 –> 00:33:09,360
\nNo problem, Bible.
\nPassage immediately, you know, <\/p>\n

620
\n00:33:09,360 –> 00:33:12,000
\nyou shall not live by bread
\nalone, but by every word that <\/p>\n

621
\n00:33:12,000 –> 00:33:15,240
\nproceeds in the mouth of God.
\nNot next temptation, you know, <\/p>\n

622
\n00:33:15,400 –> 00:33:17,920
\nand that’s sort of like the way
\nI viewed him like a Superman. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:33:17,920 –> 00:33:20,440
\nWe’re just like temptations
\nbounced off of Him easily. <\/p>\n

624
\n00:33:20,880 –> 00:33:23,320
\nAnd it’s not until you’re
\nreading the Psalms so you see <\/p>\n

625
\n00:33:23,320 –> 00:33:26,400
\nhim in the garden that you
\nrealize what a struggle it was. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:33:26,680 –> 00:33:29,560
\nAnd you see that human side of
\nChrist, of what He was going <\/p>\n

627
\n00:33:29,560 –> 00:33:33,680
\nthrough day by day, learning
\nobedience by the things that he <\/p>\n

628
\n00:33:33,680 –> 00:33:36,440
\nsuffered and he heard for his
\ngodly fear. <\/p>\n

629
\n00:33:36,760 –> 00:33:38,560
\nAnd he’s crying to his Father
\nfor help. <\/p>\n

630
\n00:33:39,280 –> 00:33:43,240
\nThis whole subject also helps
\nunderstand why Jesus Christ was <\/p>\n

631
\n00:33:43,240 –> 00:33:45,480
\nbaptized.
\nSometimes our kids ask us that. <\/p>\n

632
\n00:33:45,480 –> 00:33:47,200
\nThey wonder like, why was Christ
\nbaptized? <\/p>\n

633
\n00:33:47,200 –> 00:33:49,800
\nHe didn’t have any sins.
\nBecause we say today, you know, <\/p>\n

634
\n00:33:49,800 –> 00:33:51,360
\nwhy?
\nWhy are we getting baptized? <\/p>\n

635
\n00:33:51,360 –> 00:33:53,360
\nSo some young person over there
\ndecides they want to get <\/p>\n

636
\n00:33:53,360 –> 00:33:55,400
\nbaptized.
\nSo you’re going to get baptized.<\/p>\n

637
\n00:33:55,520 –> 00:33:57,960
\nWhy do you want to be baptized?
\nThat’s a common question that <\/p>\n

638
\n00:33:57,960 –> 00:34:00,280
\nthey ask at baptizal interviews.
\nSo you got to know the answer to<\/p>\n

639
\n00:34:00,280 –> 00:34:01,920
\nthat one.
\nSo why do you want to be <\/p>\n

640
\n00:34:01,920 –> 00:34:04,000
\nbaptized?
\nAnd you say, well, because I <\/p>\n

641
\n00:34:04,000 –> 00:34:07,440
\nwant to be forgiven of my sins.
\nAnd then you think, well, why <\/p>\n

642
\n00:34:07,440 –> 00:34:10,120
\nwas Jesus baptized?
\nHe didn’t have any sins to be <\/p>\n

643
\n00:34:10,120 –> 00:34:13,840
\nforgiven of.
\nBut when you look at sin, as <\/p>\n

644
\n00:34:13,840 –> 00:34:18,080
\nJohn Thomas explained it, the
\nwhole component of sin, when you<\/p>\n

645
\n00:34:18,080 –> 00:34:22,159
\nlook at the root and the ’cause
\nthen Christ had no personal <\/p>\n

646
\n00:34:22,159 –> 00:34:25,080
\nsins.
\nSo was it really just an example<\/p>\n

647
\n00:34:25,080 –> 00:34:26,760
\nto us?
\nBecause that’s the next thing <\/p>\n

648
\n00:34:26,760 –> 00:34:29,679
\nthat people then say, well, he
\ndid it for us so that we would <\/p>\n

649
\n00:34:29,679 –> 00:34:33,120
\nfollow in the steps.
\nAnd we sometimes fail to realize<\/p>\n

650
\n00:34:33,120 –> 00:34:35,600
\nthat look at he was really
\nfighting this battle. <\/p>\n

651
\n00:34:35,960 –> 00:34:39,159
\nHe’s fighting this battle.
\nAnd it’s more intense in him <\/p>\n

652
\n00:34:39,159 –> 00:34:42,120
\nthan it is in us.
\nHe can’t sin once. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:34:42,120 –> 00:34:45,679
\nHe can’t give in.
\nAnd so much was required of him.<\/p>\n

654
\n00:34:46,080 –> 00:34:48,920
\nAnd so you find that John the
\nBaptist said that I need to be <\/p>\n

655
\n00:34:48,920 –> 00:34:51,000
\nbaptized by you.
\nAnd are you coming to me? <\/p>\n

656
\n00:34:51,480 –> 00:34:53,679
\nYou know?
\nAnd this is the one who he said <\/p>\n

657
\n00:34:53,679 –> 00:34:56,320
\nwas spoken to by the prophet
\nIsaiah, the voice of one crying <\/p>\n

658
\n00:34:56,320 –> 00:34:58,200
\nin the wilderness.
\nAnd prepare the way of the Lord,<\/p>\n

659
\n00:34:58,200 –> 00:35:01,760
\nand make his path straight.
\nSo what Jesus Christ did when he<\/p>\n

660
\n00:35:01,760 –> 00:35:04,760
\nwent down into the waters of
\nbaptism is he understood the <\/p>\n

661
\n00:35:04,760 –> 00:35:07,240
\nwhole process of the devil in
\nsin. <\/p>\n

662
\n00:35:07,560 –> 00:35:11,320
\nAnd he went down there as a
\npublic testimony to his friends,<\/p>\n

663
\n00:35:11,320 –> 00:35:15,320
\nto the world, to his Father, to
\nthe angels in heaven, that he <\/p>\n

664
\n00:35:15,320 –> 00:35:20,160
\nwas committed to declare God
\nright for his condemnation of <\/p>\n

665
\n00:35:20,160 –> 00:35:25,160
\nsin, of the root and the cause.
\nAnd because of that, the Father <\/p>\n

666
\n00:35:25,160 –> 00:35:29,440
\nopened the heavens and was so
\npleased and said, this is my <\/p>\n

667
\n00:35:29,440 –> 00:35:31,360
\nbeloved Son.
\nI mean, this is what he been <\/p>\n

668
\n00:35:31,360 –> 00:35:35,000
\nwaiting for, for all these
\nyears, for 6000 years for <\/p>\n

669
\n00:35:35,000 –> 00:35:39,200
\nsomeone to declare him right.
\nAnd Jesus Christ did that. <\/p>\n

670
\n00:35:39,480 –> 00:35:42,560
\nJohn the Baptist had been crying
\nthat all flesh is grass. <\/p>\n

671
\n00:35:42,560 –> 00:35:45,680
\nHe was, you know, referring back
\nto Isaiah 40 right there. <\/p>\n

672
\n00:35:45,680 –> 00:35:48,040
\nWhat shall I cry?
\nAll flesh is grass and it’s <\/p>\n

673
\n00:35:48,160 –> 00:35:50,280
\nloveliness is like the flower of
\nthe field. <\/p>\n

674
\n00:35:50,520 –> 00:35:53,240
\nThe grass Withers, the flower
\nfades because the breath of the <\/p>\n

675
\n00:35:53,240 –> 00:35:56,440
\nLord blows upon it.
\nSurely the people are grass, the<\/p>\n

676
\n00:35:56,440 –> 00:35:59,640
\ngrass Withers, the flower fades,
\nbut the Word of God stands <\/p>\n

677
\n00:35:59,640 –> 00:36:02,240
\nforever.
\nSo Jesus Christ comes along at <\/p>\n

678
\n00:36:02,240 –> 00:36:05,400
\nthat point and says to John,
\nJohn, we’ve got to do this, I’ve<\/p>\n

679
\n00:36:05,400 –> 00:36:08,240
\ngot to do this.
\nThus it becometh us to fulfill <\/p>\n

680
\n00:36:08,240 –> 00:36:11,440
\nall righteousness.
\nSo he declared that his dad was <\/p>\n

681
\n00:36:11,440 –> 00:36:15,920
\nright for the whole process of
\nhow he had condemned sin and all<\/p>\n

682
\n00:36:15,920 –> 00:36:19,480
\nthe things that God had done.
\nHe was right to condemn sin to <\/p>\n

683
\n00:36:19,480 –> 00:36:22,920
\ndeath, sinners to death.
\nGod was right to require us to <\/p>\n

684
\n00:36:22,920 –> 00:36:26,320
\nput the old man to death.
\nChrist was committed to doing <\/p>\n

685
\n00:36:26,320 –> 00:36:28,720
\nthat.
\nAnd so his declaration in <\/p>\n

686
\n00:36:28,720 –> 00:36:32,840
\nbaptism was simply what he would
\nfinally do at the cross. <\/p>\n

687
\n00:36:32,840 –> 00:36:35,080
\nWe just were looking at that
\nlast week when Brother Jim <\/p>\n

688
\n00:36:35,080 –> 00:36:38,920
\nHarper was given his classes up
\nat VIBC, that this was where the<\/p>\n

689
\n00:36:38,920 –> 00:36:41,400
\nprocess started.
\nHe went out there, went down <\/p>\n

690
\n00:36:41,400 –> 00:36:45,720
\ninto the water, and he declared
\nGod’s right, the old man must <\/p>\n

691
\n00:36:45,720 –> 00:36:48,400
\ndie.
\nAnd that was a commitment then. <\/p>\n

692
\n00:36:48,400 –> 00:36:51,160
\nAnd it was a commitment that at
\nthe end he would do it on the <\/p>\n

693
\n00:36:51,160 –> 00:36:55,240
\ncross, which was why God was so
\npleased with his condemnation of<\/p>\n

694
\n00:36:55,240 –> 00:36:58,240
\nsin as the acknowledgement of
\nthe of the Son that the Father <\/p>\n

695
\n00:36:58,240 –> 00:37:01,360
\nwas right.
\nSo why we’re baptized, we get <\/p>\n

696
\n00:37:01,360 –> 00:37:04,200
\nbaptized and we tell our young
\npeople, you’re baptized with the<\/p>\n

697
\n00:37:04,200 –> 00:37:08,520
\nforgiveness of your sins.
\nBut what you want to remember is<\/p>\n

698
\n00:37:08,520 –> 00:37:13,040
\nthe whole concept of baptism
\nisn’t just about the forgiveness<\/p>\n

699
\n00:37:13,040 –> 00:37:15,880
\nof our sins.
\nIt’s about the fact that we are <\/p>\n

700
\n00:37:15,880 –> 00:37:19,720
\ncommitted to die with Christ to
\nsin. <\/p>\n

701
\n00:37:20,360 –> 00:37:22,000
\nThat’s what we’re committing to
\nin baptism. <\/p>\n

702
\n00:37:22,000 –> 00:37:24,800
\nIt isn’t just so that we can be
\nforgiven of our sins. <\/p>\n

703
\n00:37:25,040 –> 00:37:28,400
\nIt’s so that we will tell our
\nfriends, our neighbors, those <\/p>\n

704
\n00:37:28,400 –> 00:37:32,200
\naround us, the angels in heaven,
\nGod in Christ himself, that we <\/p>\n

705
\n00:37:32,200 –> 00:37:35,520
\nare making a covenant, a
\ncommitment that we are going to <\/p>\n

706
\n00:37:35,520 –> 00:37:38,240
\nput sin to death.
\nThat’s what we do. <\/p>\n

707
\n00:37:38,480 –> 00:37:43,320
\nAnd because of that, God can
\nrighteously forgive our sins. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:37:43,560 –> 00:37:46,640
\nThat’s what we do.
\nWe join with Christ in a death <\/p>\n

709
\n00:37:46,640 –> 00:37:49,400
\nlike His, and the death like
\nhis. <\/p>\n

710
\n00:37:49,400 –> 00:37:53,680
\nIsn’t his crucifixion on the
\npole His death that that Paul’s <\/p>\n

711
\n00:37:53,680 –> 00:37:56,400
\nreferring to is his death to
\nsin. <\/p>\n

712
\n00:37:56,720 –> 00:38:00,160
\nGod condemned sin in the flesh
\nof Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

713
\n00:38:00,360 –> 00:38:03,040
\nIt’s not some torturous death
\nthat Paul’s referring to. <\/p>\n

714
\n00:38:03,040 –> 00:38:07,160
\nHe’s talking about the victory
\nthat God and Christ won when <\/p>\n

715
\n00:38:07,160 –> 00:38:09,400
\nthey put sin to death.
\nSo when you. <\/p>\n

716
\n00:38:09,400 –> 00:38:12,000
\nLook at Jesus Christ and you try
\nto figure out, well, why was he <\/p>\n

717
\n00:38:12,000 –> 00:38:15,000
\ndoing this?
\nWell, he inherited from Mary the<\/p>\n

718
\n00:38:15,000 –> 00:38:18,880
\nbodies that we have mortality
\nand this nature that’s that’s <\/p>\n

719
\n00:38:18,880 –> 00:38:22,560
\nprone to sin.
\nAnd so God designed a plan of <\/p>\n

720
\n00:38:22,560 –> 00:38:27,160
\nredemption where he would take
\none of our race, one person and <\/p>\n

721
\n00:38:27,160 –> 00:38:31,160
\nreally save that one person.
\nHe would work in that one <\/p>\n

722
\n00:38:31,160 –> 00:38:36,840
\nperson’s life and totally defeat
\nsin and then put that person up <\/p>\n

723
\n00:38:36,880 –> 00:38:40,840
\nas the public example of this is
\nwhat God really wants. <\/p>\n

724
\n00:38:41,160 –> 00:38:42,720
\nThis is what God’s children’s
\ndo. <\/p>\n

725
\n00:38:42,960 –> 00:38:46,920
\nThey defeat sin and and they
\nlive lives of righteousness to <\/p>\n

726
\n00:38:46,920 –> 00:38:50,400
\nGod and declare God right in
\neverything that he asked. <\/p>\n

727
\n00:38:50,720 –> 00:38:53,760
\nGod says, look at this is what
\nwe’re going to do and so he sets<\/p>\n

728
\n00:38:53,800 –> 00:38:57,840
\nout to save his son.
\nThis is not from the angels <\/p>\n

729
\n00:38:57,840 –> 00:39:00,960
\nperspective when when Jesus
\nChrist was born, this was the <\/p>\n

730
\n00:39:00,960 –> 00:39:04,960
\nfocal point of 6000 years.
\nWe have to save Messiah. <\/p>\n

731
\n00:39:05,160 –> 00:39:07,640
\nHe’s got to make it.
\nAnd then the goal would be that <\/p>\n

732
\n00:39:07,640 –> 00:39:10,040
\nthe rest of the family be saved
\nin him. <\/p>\n

733
\n00:39:10,960 –> 00:39:13,720
\nSo as as Robert Roberts put it
\nin the law of Moses, when he <\/p>\n

734
\n00:39:13,720 –> 00:39:16,520
\nwhen he wrote that, he actually
\nmade a comment on this concept <\/p>\n

735
\n00:39:16,520 –> 00:39:18,800
\nabout what it means that Christ
\ndied for us. <\/p>\n

736
\n00:39:19,240 –> 00:39:22,120
\nAnd he said there that the
\nstatement that he did these <\/p>\n

737
\n00:39:22,120 –> 00:39:27,400
\nthings for us has blinded many
\nto the fact that he did them for<\/p>\n

738
\n00:39:27,520 –> 00:39:32,000
\nhimself first, for without which
\nhe could not have done them for <\/p>\n

739
\n00:39:32,000 –> 00:39:34,240
\nus.
\nFor it was by doing them for <\/p>\n

740
\n00:39:34,240 –> 00:39:39,240
\nhimself that he did them for us,
\nand he did them for us only in <\/p>\n

741
\n00:39:39,240 –> 00:39:43,720
\nhis, as we may become a part of
\nHim in merging our individual, <\/p>\n

742
\n00:39:43,800 –> 00:39:48,000
\nour individualities in Him by
\ntaking part in his death. <\/p>\n

743
\n00:39:48,480 –> 00:39:51,720
\nAnd again, he’s not talking
\nabout his torturous death on a <\/p>\n

744
\n00:39:51,720 –> 00:39:54,400
\ncross.
\nHe’s talking about taking part <\/p>\n

745
\n00:39:54,400 –> 00:39:58,040
\nin his death to sin.
\nThis is how Paul would put it, <\/p>\n

746
\n00:39:58,520 –> 00:40:01,800
\nand putting on his name and
\nsharing his life afterwards. <\/p>\n

747
\n00:40:01,960 –> 00:40:06,160
\nHe is, as it were, a center of
\nhealthy life in which we must <\/p>\n

748
\n00:40:06,160 –> 00:40:08,640
\nbecome incorporate before we can
\nbe saved. <\/p>\n

749
\n00:40:09,040 –> 00:40:11,680
\nSo you can see that as, as
\nRobert Roberts saw it, it’s this<\/p>\n

750
\n00:40:11,680 –> 00:40:13,800
\nconcept of doing it for us, for
\nus, for us. <\/p>\n

751
\n00:40:13,800 –> 00:40:17,320
\nAs it’s so stressed in the New
\nTestament, it can sometimes lead<\/p>\n

752
\n00:40:17,320 –> 00:40:20,560
\npeople down a pathway where they
\nend up thinking, well, God <\/p>\n

753
\n00:40:20,560 –> 00:40:22,320
\ndidn’t really need to do it for
\nhim. <\/p>\n

754
\n00:40:22,960 –> 00:40:24,880
\nBut he did.
\nHe was born with our nature. <\/p>\n

755
\n00:40:24,880 –> 00:40:27,360
\nHe had mortality.
\nHe had a proneness to sin. <\/p>\n

756
\n00:40:27,640 –> 00:40:31,760
\nHe needed salvation.
\nChrist needed to be saved from <\/p>\n

757
\n00:40:31,760 –> 00:40:35,800
\nthis nature of sin.
\nAnd so God set up a plan to save<\/p>\n

758
\n00:40:35,800 –> 00:40:40,400
\nhis Son and in saving his Son,
\nand the focal point was that he <\/p>\n

759
\n00:40:40,400 –> 00:40:42,400
\nwould be saving the rest of the
\nrace. <\/p>\n

760
\n00:40:42,640 –> 00:40:44,200
\nAnd that’s how Jesus Christ saw
\nit. <\/p>\n

761
\n00:40:44,360 –> 00:40:46,320
\nThat’s why He went through it
\nfor us. <\/p>\n

762
\n00:40:46,760 –> 00:40:49,000
\nI think you’ll see that Christ
\nnever lost track of that <\/p>\n

763
\n00:40:49,000 –> 00:40:51,400
\nconcept.
\nHe never lost focus on the fact <\/p>\n

764
\n00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:54,440
\nthat He was going through it for
\nthe group, for the good of the <\/p>\n

765
\n00:40:54,440 –> 00:40:56,680
\ngroup.
\nSo that in Luke 18, when the <\/p>\n

766
\n00:40:56,680 –> 00:40:59,440
\nruler came to him and said, good
\nteacher, what shall I do to <\/p>\n

767
\n00:40:59,440 –> 00:41:02,760
\ninherit eternal life?
\nImmediately his mind goes to the<\/p>\n

768
\n00:41:02,760 –> 00:41:05,240
\nfact that, wait a minute, I’m
\nnot good teacher. <\/p>\n

769
\n00:41:05,480 –> 00:41:07,800
\nHe says, why do you call me
\ngood? <\/p>\n

770
\n00:41:07,800 –> 00:41:12,080
\nNo one is good but one that is
\nGod don’t end up putting me up <\/p>\n

771
\n00:41:12,080 –> 00:41:14,800
\nthere.
\nI’m in this because my father’s <\/p>\n

772
\n00:41:14,800 –> 00:41:17,440
\ngoing to use me.
\nHe’s going to save me so that I <\/p>\n

773
\n00:41:17,440 –> 00:41:20,600
\ncan save the rest.
\nHe understood he had the devil <\/p>\n

774
\n00:41:20,600 –> 00:41:23,000
\nin him.
\nHe had to have the devil in him <\/p>\n

775
\n00:41:23,000 –> 00:41:26,640
\nbecause the victory had to be
\nwon over sin over the root and <\/p>\n

776
\n00:41:26,640 –> 00:41:30,520
\nthe cause so that God could
\ncondemn sin in the flesh of <\/p>\n

777
\n00:41:30,560 –> 00:41:33,160
\nJesus Christ.
\nSo he declared that God is the <\/p>\n

778
\n00:41:33,160 –> 00:41:36,400
\nonly one who is good and don’t
\nend up thinking better of <\/p>\n

779
\n00:41:36,400 –> 00:41:39,160
\nyourself.
\nLater on in the New Testament <\/p>\n

780
\n00:41:39,160 –> 00:41:42,120
\nwhen people got off the track on
\nthis early on, this is what <\/p>\n

781
\n00:41:42,120 –> 00:41:44,080
\nbecame known as the Antichrist
\nteaching. <\/p>\n

782
\n00:41:44,080 –> 00:41:46,480
\nThis is where the original
\nAntichrist stuff came from. <\/p>\n

783
\n00:41:46,800 –> 00:41:50,040
\nIn first John 4 John refers to
\nit that beloved don’t believe <\/p>\n

784
\n00:41:50,040 –> 00:41:52,720
\nevery spirit but test the
\nspirits whether they are of God <\/p>\n

785
\n00:41:52,720 –> 00:41:56,040
\nbecause many false prophets have
\ngone out into the world and by <\/p>\n

786
\n00:41:56,040 –> 00:41:57,960
\nthis you will know the Spirit of
\nGod. <\/p>\n

787
\n00:41:58,160 –> 00:42:01,880
\nEvery spirit that confesses that
\nJesus Christ has come in the <\/p>\n

788
\n00:42:01,880 –> 00:42:06,280
\nflesh is of God and every spirit
\nthat does not confess that Jesus<\/p>\n

789
\n00:42:06,280 –> 00:42:08,720
\nChrist has come in the flesh is
\nnot of God. <\/p>\n

790
\n00:42:09,040 –> 00:42:11,640
\nThis is the spirit of Antichrist
\nof which you have heard. <\/p>\n

791
\n00:42:11,640 –> 00:42:15,480
\nIt was coming and is now already
\nin the world because people <\/p>\n

792
\n00:42:15,480 –> 00:42:18,560
\nimmediately got off the track on
\nthis and thought that Jesus <\/p>\n

793
\n00:42:18,560 –> 00:42:20,320
\nChrist really didn’t come in the
\nflesh. <\/p>\n

794
\n00:42:20,840 –> 00:42:23,440
\nHow in the world could a human
\nperson ever be sinless? <\/p>\n

795
\n00:42:23,640 –> 00:42:27,120
\nHe must have been a God.
\nAnd they immediately came up <\/p>\n

796
\n00:42:27,120 –> 00:42:29,400
\nwith this idea that Christ was
\ndifferent than us. <\/p>\n

797
\n00:42:29,400 –> 00:42:32,520
\nHe had some pre existent
\nexistence and He had just come <\/p>\n

798
\n00:42:32,520 –> 00:42:34,440
\ndown and taken on a body for a
\nwhile. <\/p>\n

799
\n00:42:34,440 –> 00:42:36,480
\nHe didn’t really come in the
\nflesh. <\/p>\n

800
\n00:42:36,760 –> 00:42:39,560
\nAnd when you go that route, you
\ntake away the victory that was <\/p>\n

801
\n00:42:39,560 –> 00:42:43,080
\nthe great victory that God
\naccomplished of condemning sin <\/p>\n

802
\n00:42:43,360 –> 00:42:47,120
\nin the body of Jesus Christ.
\nIn Hebrews 9, when the apostle <\/p>\n

803
\n00:42:47,120 –> 00:42:49,880
\nPaul refers to this and looking
\nat the shadows, because he’s <\/p>\n

804
\n00:42:49,880 –> 00:42:52,520
\nbuilding his case now on the
\nshadows of the law and saying <\/p>\n

805
\n00:42:52,520 –> 00:42:54,760
\nhere’s how the law foreshadowed
\nthis. <\/p>\n

806
\n00:42:55,280 –> 00:42:58,880
\nChrist came in Hebrews 9 at
\nverse 11 as high priest of the <\/p>\n

807
\n00:42:58,880 –> 00:43:02,200
\ngood things to come with the
\ngreater and more perfect <\/p>\n

808
\n00:43:02,200 –> 00:43:05,280
\nTabernacle, not made with His
\nhands, that is, not of this <\/p>\n

809
\n00:43:05,280 –> 00:43:09,080
\ncreation, and not with the blood
\nof bulls or the blood of goats <\/p>\n

810
\n00:43:09,080 –> 00:43:11,520
\nand calves, but with His own
\nblood. <\/p>\n

811
\n00:43:11,520 –> 00:43:16,320
\nHe entered the most Holy once
\nfor all, having obtained eternal<\/p>\n

812
\n00:43:16,320 –> 00:43:18,880
\nredemption.
\nAnd some of your Bibles have <\/p>\n

813
\n00:43:18,880 –> 00:43:21,720
\nthose words for us in there, and
\nthey really shouldn’t be there. <\/p>\n

814
\n00:43:21,840 –> 00:43:26,320
\nHe entered into the holy place
\nforce first for Himself to <\/p>\n

815
\n00:43:26,320 –> 00:43:31,080
\nobtain eternal redemption so
\nthat He could in turn and <\/p>\n

816
\n00:43:31,080 –> 00:43:35,000
\nincorporate and save all of
\nthose who would be saved in Him.<\/p>\n

817
\n00:43:35,480 –> 00:43:37,240
\nThe Greek there is some of the
\nexpositors. <\/p>\n

818
\n00:43:37,240 –> 00:43:39,760
\nNotice is in the middle voice
\nright there indicating that the <\/p>\n

819
\n00:43:39,760 –> 00:43:41,760
\naction has to be applied to the
\nsubject. <\/p>\n

820
\n00:43:41,760 –> 00:43:45,440
\nIt’s not about us, it’s about
\nthe fact that He went in to <\/p>\n

821
\n00:43:45,440 –> 00:43:49,680
\nobtain eternal redemption for
\nHimself so that it could be for <\/p>\n

822
\n00:43:49,680 –> 00:43:53,480
\nall of us.
\nGod had to save His Son first so<\/p>\n

823
\n00:43:53,480 –> 00:43:56,600
\nthat He could save the rest.
\nNow in covering this subject <\/p>\n

824
\n00:43:56,600 –> 00:44:00,280
\nthat way, this doesn’t eliminate
\nthe concept that is many people <\/p>\n

825
\n00:44:00,280 –> 00:44:03,760
\nhave often wondered, well, would
\nGod have put Jesus Christ <\/p>\n

826
\n00:44:03,760 –> 00:44:06,200
\nthrough all of this if it wasn’t
\nfor all of us? <\/p>\n

827
\n00:44:06,640 –> 00:44:08,760
\nAnd the Bible doesn’t comment on
\nthat at all. <\/p>\n

828
\n00:44:09,200 –> 00:44:11,800
\nAnd you can speculate on that
\nfor the rest of your life <\/p>\n

829
\n00:44:11,800 –> 00:44:14,360
\nbecause you know, it’s just,
\nit’s, it’s almost one of those <\/p>\n

830
\n00:44:14,360 –> 00:44:16,880
\nquestions that you can ask that
\nit’s almost worthless because <\/p>\n

831
\n00:44:16,880 –> 00:44:19,800
\nwhat’s the point?
\nWhat the Bible comments on is <\/p>\n

832
\n00:44:19,800 –> 00:44:22,840
\nwhat we really have.
\nWe have a race of people who are<\/p>\n

833
\n00:44:22,840 –> 00:44:26,400
\nprone to sin, who inevitably
\nbecome sinners, who are born <\/p>\n

834
\n00:44:26,400 –> 00:44:30,160
\nwith mortality.
\nGod wants to save some, He loves<\/p>\n

835
\n00:44:30,160 –> 00:44:34,880
\nthem, and so he has his Son come
\nin the likeness of sinful flesh <\/p>\n

836
\n00:44:34,880 –> 00:44:39,160
\nand for sin and condemn sin in
\nthe flesh of his Son. <\/p>\n

837
\n00:44:39,520 –> 00:44:42,840
\nAnd his Bible doesn’t comment on
\nat all on what God would have <\/p>\n

838
\n00:44:42,840 –> 00:44:45,480
\ndone with Jesus if it hadn’t
\nbeen for us. <\/p>\n

839
\n00:44:46,160 –> 00:44:49,280
\nIn Hebrews 7, when Paul again is
\nlooking at the the shadows of <\/p>\n

840
\n00:44:49,280 –> 00:44:54,560
\nthe law, he refers to in verse
\n27 that who does not need daily <\/p>\n

841
\n00:44:54,560 –> 00:44:58,720
\nas those high priests to OfferUp
\nsacrifices first for his own <\/p>\n

842
\n00:44:58,720 –> 00:45:01,960
\nsins and then for the peoples as
\nthey did under the law. <\/p>\n

843
\n00:45:01,960 –> 00:45:04,600
\nWhere the high priest would do
\nthat, he’d go in and 1st go and <\/p>\n

844
\n00:45:04,600 –> 00:45:07,960
\noffer for his own sins, and then
\nhe would go back later and offer<\/p>\n

845
\n00:45:07,960 –> 00:45:12,320
\nfor the sins of the people.
\nHe says that this he did once <\/p>\n

846
\n00:45:12,400 –> 00:45:17,760
\nfor all, once for all, when he
\noffered up himself, for the law <\/p>\n

847
\n00:45:17,760 –> 00:45:20,280
\nappoints his high priest, men
\nwho have weaknesses, but the <\/p>\n

848
\n00:45:20,280 –> 00:45:24,120
\nword of the oath, which came
\nafter the law, appoints the Son <\/p>\n

849
\n00:45:24,120 –> 00:45:28,280
\nwho has been perfected forever.
\nPsalm 110, that you are a priest<\/p>\n

850
\n00:45:28,280 –> 00:45:30,680
\nforever after the order of
\nMelchizedek. <\/p>\n

851
\n00:45:30,960 –> 00:45:34,760
\nSo he did this once for all.
\nWell, we’ll leave it there now <\/p>\n

852
\n00:45:34,760 –> 00:45:37,960
\nfor Class 2.
\nAnd in Class 3, we come back, <\/p>\n

853
\n00:45:37,960 –> 00:45:42,120
\nwe’ll have a look at how God did
\nsave Jesus Christ and how that <\/p>\n

854
\n00:45:42,120 –> 00:45:44,720
\nplan of redemption is available
\nfor us too. <\/p>\n

855
\n00:45:58,080 –> 00:46:00,160
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\n00:46:27,480 –> 00:46:29,960
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873
\n00:46:50,000 –> 00:46:52,880
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874
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385: Jim Styles – God Did Redeem His Son<\/a><\/blockquote>