{"id":1357,"date":"2025-08-17T21:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-17T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/361-podcast-showcase-essential-bible-studies\/"},"modified":"2026-08-23T23:21:56","modified_gmt":"2026-08-23T23:21:56","slug":"361-podcast-showcase-essential-bible-studies","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/361-podcast-showcase-essential-bible-studies\/","title":{"rendered":"361: Podcast Showcase – Essential Bible Studies"},"content":{"rendered":"

For this week’s talk, we are listening to “The Mind of the Spirit,” which is the 70th episode from the Essential Bible Studies Podcast, another Christadelphian podcast that we think you should be listening to as well!<\/p>\n

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\nHey everyone, this is Jason
\nHensley. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week we are listening to a
\nChristadelphian podcast called <\/p>\n

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\nEssential Bible Studies, and a
\nspecific episode is The Mind of <\/p>\n

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\nthe Spirit.
\nNow, one of the things that I <\/p>\n

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\nlove about this podcast is that
\nit’s really a discussion. <\/p>\n

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\nSo there’s numerous guests and
\nyou get to really just listen in<\/p>\n

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\non this Bible discussion.
\nIt’s almost like you’re having a<\/p>\n

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\nreally good, exciting Bible
\nconversation. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I think that you’re going to
\nenjoy that about it. <\/p>\n

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\nIn addition to that, the guest
\ninterviewed in this one is <\/p>\n

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\nbrother Ben Brinkerhoff.
\nThey actually went to Sunday <\/p>\n

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\nschool together.
\nSo when I heard that he was a <\/p>\n

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\nguest on this episode, I was
\npretty excited about that. <\/p>\n

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\nBut in addition to that, I
\nreally love the way that this <\/p>\n

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\n00:00:50,880 –> 00:00:56,280
\ndiscussion moves through
\nexperience and scripture at the <\/p>\n

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\nsame time.
\nI think sometimes that’s a <\/p>\n

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\nreally difficult line to really
\nhit. <\/p>\n

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\nSometimes we lean too far on
\nexperience. <\/p>\n

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\nOther times we are only
\nscripture and it can be really <\/p>\n

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\nhard to figure out how does how
\ndoes this apply or how does this<\/p>\n

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\nmean something to me.
\nAnd I really loved how this <\/p>\n

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\nepisode weaved it all in, weaved
\nit all together, and I felt like<\/p>\n

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\nreally created this whole with a
\na depth of meaning and <\/p>\n

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\nsignificance for really any
\nanybody who’s listening to it. <\/p>\n

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\nSo.
\nWith that said, this is the mind<\/p>\n

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\nof the Spirit discussing what is
\nthe Spirit and what does it mean<\/p>\n

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\nto have the mind of the Spirit,
\nfocusing specifically on Romans <\/p>\n

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\nchapter 8 and with a little
\nsprinkling in of the Gospel of <\/p>\n

29
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\nJohn.
\nSo I think you’ll enjoy it. <\/p>\n

30
\n00:01:52,080 –> 00:01:55,440
\nThis is the Mind of the Spirit,
\nessential Bible studies for the <\/p>\n

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\n00:01:55,440 –> 00:01:59,600
\nTim Young is the podcaster, and
\nthe guest is Brother Ben <\/p>\n

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\nBrinkerhoff.
\nFor to set the mind on the flesh<\/p>\n

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\nis.
\nDeath. <\/p>\n

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\nBut to set the mind on the
\nSpirit is life and peace. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s from Romans chapter 8.
\nVerse 6 This is the. <\/p>\n

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\nEssential Bible Studies Podcast.
\nMy name is Tim Young and I’m <\/p>\n

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\nhere with Ben Brinkerhoff, an
\nold friend that I haven’t seen <\/p>\n

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\nor talked to in, I’m figuring,
\n20 years. <\/p>\n

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\nWhere does the time go?
\nBut now, with the magic of <\/p>\n

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\ntechnology, we can bridge the
\ndistance and talk again. <\/p>\n

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\nI blame it on Ben.
\nHe moved to New Zealand and, <\/p>\n

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\nwell, I moved to Canada.
\nBut way back when we were a lot <\/p>\n

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\nyounger, we both lived in the
\nGolden State of California. <\/p>\n

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\nRight men.
\nThat’s right, Tim, back in those<\/p>\n

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\ndays, I looked up to you.
\nBut it’s nice 20 years later, <\/p>\n

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\nlike, oh, why?
\nActually, we’re not in different<\/p>\n

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\nparts of life as much as we were
\nthen. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, it’s great to be reunited
\nagain. <\/p>\n

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\nI can’t help but think by the
\nProvidence of God, as I was <\/p>\n

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\npreparing this season with the
\ntheme of the Spirit, I really <\/p>\n

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\nwanted to do an episode on what
\nit means to have the mind of the<\/p>\n

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\nSpirit and how we can have the
\nSpirit dwelling in US. <\/p>\n

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\nWhat does that mean?
\nOK. <\/p>\n

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\nI felt Romans chapter 8 was the
\nperfect passage to talk about <\/p>\n

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\nit, but I didn’t really have
\nanybody to talk about it with. <\/p>\n

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\nThen out of the blue, I
\ndiscovered these classes on <\/p>\n

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\nRomans given by an old familiar
\nfriend. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I listened and I just thought
\nthey were excellent. <\/p>\n

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\nI had to find you again and talk
\nto you about setting the mind on<\/p>\n

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\nthe things of the Spirit.
\nSo here we are, and I’m so happy<\/p>\n

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\nto have you on the podcast.
\nCan you tell us how you got into<\/p>\n

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\nthis study and how it changed
\nyour life? <\/p>\n

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\nBecause it really did change
\nyour life, right? <\/p>\n

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\nIt did.
\nI found this study when I was in<\/p>\n

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\na lot of emotional distress.
\nI was doing mission work in the <\/p>\n

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\nPersian Gulf.
\nWow, that sounds like it’s a <\/p>\n

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\nvery scary place to do mission
\nwork. <\/p>\n

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\nBut I didn’t find it very scary
\nat all. <\/p>\n

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\nWorking with people that are
\nbrought into the Persian Gulf to<\/p>\n

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\ndo labour jobs, people from Sri
\nLanka, India, Pakistan and <\/p>\n

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\nPhilippines and other places and
\nthey brought into that country <\/p>\n

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\nand they have a real thirst for
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nSome of them come over as
\nChristians and you could <\/p>\n

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\nabsolutely speak to them and
\nthey had a real desire to hear <\/p>\n

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\nabout the word of God.
\nBut the work was incredibly <\/p>\n

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\nchallenging and we ran into many
\nvarious conflicts. <\/p>\n

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\nOne of the most important was I
\nhad about $48,000 stolen from <\/p>\n

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\nus.
\nWe were moved out of our house <\/p>\n

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\nand we lived in a place which
\nwasn’t up to the specifications <\/p>\n

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\nof where we had been before.
\nAnd we couldn’t cook hot food. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s not that you can’t cook
\nhot food in Qatar. <\/p>\n

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\nCertainly you can’t.
\nIt’s just the place we were at. <\/p>\n

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\nWe couldn’t.
\nThe gas wasn’t hooked up, wasn’t<\/p>\n

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\nworking, problems with the
\nelectrics, and my wife was <\/p>\n

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\npregnant and she didn’t feel
\nlike she was getting the medical<\/p>\n

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\ncare that she needed because she
\nwas a type 1 diabetic. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I had the concern of getting
\nher the appropriate medical care<\/p>\n

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\nfor her pregnancy.
\nThis is your first child. <\/p>\n

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\nThis is our first child.
\nSo everywhere I looked, I was <\/p>\n

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\nunder pressure and cess and I
\nthought maybe because I was <\/p>\n

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\ndoing mission work that God owed
\nme a couple a couple breaks <\/p>\n

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\nmaybe, right.
\nAnd it’s not that the mission <\/p>\n

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\nwork itself wasn’t being
\nsuccessful because we were doing<\/p>\n

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\nwonderful things there and that
\nwas rewarding itself. <\/p>\n

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\nBut I, you know, when looking at
\nthe number of challenges that we<\/p>\n

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\nare facing, I felt distress and
\nI didn’t know where to turn. <\/p>\n

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\nAlyssa wasn’t doing very well
\nand I, I felt like every moment <\/p>\n

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\nI was trying to solve a problem
\nand some of the problems I <\/p>\n

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\ncouldn’t solve.
\nAnd so as you do, you know, I <\/p>\n

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\nturned to the scripture and it
\nwas turned the scripture in a <\/p>\n

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\nsort of a, a beautiful way.
\nBecause so much when you’re on <\/p>\n

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\nmission work, what you’re doing
\nis you’re preparing Bible <\/p>\n

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\nclasses for other people to hear
\nclasses on the 1st principles of<\/p>\n

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\nthe faith and classes on the
\nessential facts of the faith so <\/p>\n

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\nthat people can learn those
\nthings. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd what you end up finding is
\nyou’re not often doing Bible <\/p>\n

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\nstudy for yourself to strengthen
\nyourself. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so I remember I turned open
\nto Romans and I did kind of <\/p>\n

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\ndidn’t know where to go.
\nOh, interesting. <\/p>\n

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\nRight.
\nJust fell open that it. <\/p>\n

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\nKind of did those pages fell
\nopen and I read these verses <\/p>\n

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\nthat you read as a starter to
\nthis podcast to set thy mind on <\/p>\n

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\nthe things of the Spirit as
\nopposed to setting your mind on <\/p>\n

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\nthe things of the flesh.
\nAnd one was being life and one <\/p>\n

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\nwas death.
\nAnd the next verse really struck<\/p>\n

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\nme there.
\nRomans 8, verse 7. <\/p>\n

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\nFor the mind that is set on the
\nflesh is hostile to God. <\/p>\n

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\nIn the King James Version, it
\nsays enmity with God going on. <\/p>\n

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\nIt says it does not submit to
\nGod’s law. <\/p>\n

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\nIndeed it cannot.
\nI remember Tim looking at that <\/p>\n

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\nand having this huge sense of
\nrelief. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the sense of relief was
\nthere was something in me, <\/p>\n

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\nsomething that was rebellious,
\nsomething that was hostile to <\/p>\n

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\nGod, and that thing within me
\nwas absolutely not going to be <\/p>\n

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\nconverted.
\nIt was enmity. <\/p>\n

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\nIt would not be subject to God’s
\nlaw. <\/p>\n

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\nIt cannot be subject to God’s
\nlaw. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so if I’m sitting here and
\nI’m having difficult thoughts, <\/p>\n

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\nrebellious thoughts, anger and
\nhostility, if I feel like I <\/p>\n

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\ndon’t want to do the work, well,
\nwhy was I promised any <\/p>\n

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\ndifferent?
\nIs there not something within me<\/p>\n

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\nthat is hostile and at enmity
\nwith God? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so the issue was not whether
\nor not I had good or bad <\/p>\n

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\nfeelings.
\nYou see, that’s I think that is <\/p>\n

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\na false course.
\nIt’s a red herring that I should<\/p>\n

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\npursue a path towards good
\nfeelings or that somehow the <\/p>\n

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\ntruth was about having good
\nfeelings. <\/p>\n

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\nLike a warm fuzzy.
\nFeeling. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah.
\nIt’s elusive. <\/p>\n

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\nOr maybe some sort of ecstatic
\nexperience or something like <\/p>\n

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\nthat?
\nAbsolutely, that I should be <\/p>\n

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\nhaving something along those
\nlines. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd instead what I came to
\nrealize that the work of the <\/p>\n

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\nSpirit within me was in setting
\nmy mind, setting my mind on the <\/p>\n

145
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\nthings of the spirit rather than
\nthe things of the flesh. <\/p>\n

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\nNow the mind is the conscious
\nthoughts and it has to be <\/p>\n

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\nsomething that is set able.
\nIt must be able to be set. <\/p>\n

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\nIt must be changeable.
\nIt must be something I can <\/p>\n

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\nmaneuver from one place to
\nanother. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so in that respect, it has
\nto be different than the enmity <\/p>\n

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\nthat cannot be converted.
\nThere’s something within me that<\/p>\n

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\ncan’t be converted.
\nI don’t know that I can set that<\/p>\n

153
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\nthing, but what I can do is I
\ncan set my mind on the Spirit, <\/p>\n

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\nor alternatively, if I’m not
\ncareful about it, I can set my <\/p>\n

155
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\nmind on the things of the flesh.
\nAnd so in that sort of crisis <\/p>\n

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\nplace in missionary work, I
\nunderstood that I just need to <\/p>\n

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\nmake a choice, The choices set
\nmy mind on things of the Spirit,<\/p>\n

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\nno matter how it felt.
\nAnd that rang true, right? <\/p>\n

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\nYeah.
\nBecause how could the prophets <\/p>\n

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\nwho faced so many challenges and<\/p>\n

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\nso much distress, how could they
\ndo that? <\/p>\n

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\nBecause it felt good.
\nYou know, feelings themselves <\/p>\n

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\nare much more likely to be tied
\nto the flesh, which produces <\/p>\n

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\nfeelings, than it is to be tied
\nto. <\/p>\n

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\nThe yeah, the natural
\ninstinctive reactions. <\/p>\n

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\nWe have those feelings, yeah.
\nSo I needed to do what was <\/p>\n

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\nright, no matter how it felt to
\nset my mind on the things of the<\/p>\n

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\nAnd there’s actual piece of that<\/p>\n

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\nbecause rather than trying to
\nhit your head against the brick <\/p>\n

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\nwall that is trying to convert
\nthe flesh, right? <\/p>\n

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\nWhich is pretty hard, right?
\nIt’s like, I don’t have to <\/p>\n

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\nYou know, what I’m going to do <\/p>\n

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\nin this instance is I’m going to
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\ngoing to see where the feelings
\ngo, right? <\/p>\n

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\nflesh does. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is not my business.
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\nI think this is interesting that
\nyou had several years under your<\/p>\n

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\nyou needed to learn this.
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\nScripture, right?
\nBut you couldn’t learn it to the<\/p>\n

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\nexperienced it and put it with
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\nwithin us, right?
\nSo if we don’t have that war, I <\/p>\n

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\nIt means we’ve already lost to <\/p>\n

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\nautomatically by default, <\/p>\n

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\nsetting our mind on the things
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\nSo there has to be that battle
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\nAnd we’ve talked about on the
\npodcast about recognizing sin in<\/p>\n

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\nour lives and how awful it is,
\nhow dangerous it is. <\/p>\n

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\nLike Paul says at the end of
\nChapter 7, he says, O wretched <\/p>\n

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\nto that point and realizing that<\/p>\n

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\nhave this carnal mind, this base<\/p>\n

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\nThere’s nobody free from this. <\/p>\n

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\nWe all succumb to this. <\/p>\n

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\nBut I love what you’re saying
\nthere about you have to set your<\/p>\n

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\nour life to follow after the <\/p>\n

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\npeace rather than death. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, I think there in Romans
\nchapter 8, what Paul’s doing is <\/p>\n

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\nsaid in verse 1 to 4 is that
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\nThat’s a big statement because
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\nlove to hear. <\/p>\n

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\nsomething that desires to sin <\/p>\n

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\nis in me and I can’t get rid of <\/p>\n

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\nit.
\nAnd you think to yourself, <\/p>\n

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\nthere’s no condemnation for
\nthose who are in Christ Jesus. <\/p>\n

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\nYou think absolutely, these are
\nthe words I need to hear. <\/p>\n

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\nI need to hear that even though
\nI have this body of sin that I <\/p>\n

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\nhave a hope that I can grab onto
\nthat is bigger than my problems.<\/p>\n

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\nBut then he says in verse four,
\nhe qualifies. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd the qualification is about <\/p>\n

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\nfor he’s in the RSV version who <\/p>\n

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\naccording to spirit. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I think, oh, wait a minute,
\nI was just given this wonderful <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now I’m told that it’s <\/p>\n

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\naccording to the Spirit and not <\/p>\n

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\nAnd now I’m thinking, oh, wow, <\/p>\n

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\nI think Paul understands the <\/p>\n

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\nbecause he’s established in <\/p>\n

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\nBecause I definitely want no <\/p>\n

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\naccording to the Spirit that I’m<\/p>\n

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\nWhat does that mean? <\/p>\n

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\nbelievers have a choice. <\/p>\n

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\nor not they have a desire to sin<\/p>\n

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\nbecause that desire to sin is
\nencoded within us and it’s <\/p>\n

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\nYou don’t have a choice. <\/p>\n

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\nYou can’t make that go away.
\nIt didn’t go away for Paul. <\/p>\n

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\nthat he had. <\/p>\n

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\nSo we don’t get to get rid of
\nit, right? <\/p>\n

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\nis, well, what?
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\nMy mind up, that’s the question
\nI was going to ask is, yeah, we <\/p>\n

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\nin past podcasts, but I’d I’d
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\nOK, I’m not saying that I have
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\nword spirit, it’s used in such a
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\nAbsolutely.
\nAnd you think to yourself, what <\/p>\n

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\nOK, so what’s the thread here? <\/p>\n

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\nlistening to this knows that <\/p>\n

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\nwas wind. <\/p>\n

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\nI just can’t see the ’cause I <\/p>\n

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\nterms that spirit. <\/p>\n

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\nintestines, all the same, except
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\nSo my thoughts, it’s clear that <\/p>\n

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\nI have them and it’s clear that
\nthey’re very powerful, but I <\/p>\n

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\ncan’t see my thoughts.
\nAnd so in some context, I’m <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to call my thoughts
\nspirit. <\/p>\n

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\nIt has power, but I can’t see
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\nAngels, I can see the effect of
\nangels. <\/p>\n

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\ncannot notice that in areas that<\/p>\n

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\nthere was angelic intervention, <\/p>\n

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\nspirits, ministering spirits.
\nI can see the effect. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd in all these instances where<\/p>\n

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\nthe ’cause I’m going to call <\/p>\n

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\nAnd where they could be wind, it<\/p>\n

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\ncould be breath, it could be an
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\nthis podcast right now See
\nthere’s Sound Vibrations. <\/p>\n

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\nThat is moving through the air,
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\nLike she cast her spell on you
\nit sounds like. <\/p>\n

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\nYeah, and we had these
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\nhappening inside my heart,
\nright? <\/p>\n

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\nThat is incredibly powerful.
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\nnot power, but I never could see<\/p>\n

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\n00:21:29,880 –> 00:21:34,880
\nit, right?
\nAnd the power behind it, Ben, is<\/p>\n

324
\n00:21:34,880 –> 00:21:37,840
\nthat it’s actually 2 minds that
\nare connecting. <\/p>\n

325
\n00:21:37,840 –> 00:21:40,480
\nI mean, you talk about it going
\nthrough the airwaves, but you’re<\/p>\n

326
\n00:21:40,480 –> 00:21:43,680
\nactually formulating these
\nthoughts in your mind. <\/p>\n

327
\n00:21:44,240 –> 00:21:46,960
\nYou’re vocalizing them with your
\ntongue. <\/p>\n

328
\n00:21:46,960 –> 00:21:50,440
\nIt goes out through the sound
\nwaves into the ears of somebody <\/p>\n

329
\n00:21:50,440 –> 00:21:54,680
\nelse and it gets in their brain,
\nthey interpret it and it’s an <\/p>\n

330
\n00:21:54,680 –> 00:21:58,920
\ninfluence on somebody else,
\nwhether for good or for bad. <\/p>\n

331
\n00:21:59,760 –> 00:22:03,880
\nSo that’s the spirit.
\nSo and I think it just to <\/p>\n

332
\n00:22:03,880 –> 00:22:08,640
\nenlarge that too, like in our
\nworld, in our age, there’s a <\/p>\n

333
\n00:22:08,640 –> 00:22:12,080
\nspirit of the age.
\nWe have influences in society. <\/p>\n

334
\n00:22:12,080 –> 00:22:15,840
\nWe’ve moved in these currents of
\nwords and thoughts that, you <\/p>\n

335
\n00:22:15,840 –> 00:22:19,000
\nknow, social media has just
\nexploded and those kind of <\/p>\n

336
\n00:22:19,000 –> 00:22:23,560
\nthings, but it has an influence.
\nIt’s a current which moves <\/p>\n

337
\n00:22:23,560 –> 00:22:25,360
\nsomething.
\nAbsolutely. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:22:25,480 –> 00:22:27,280
\nYeah, the.
\nBase of it is words like you <\/p>\n

339
\n00:22:27,280 –> 00:22:31,440
\nsaid, and that’s to us, that’s
\nthe scriptures, that’s the word <\/p>\n

340
\n00:22:31,440 –> 00:22:34,480
\nof God, right with the things
\nthat we are are reading right <\/p>\n

341
\n00:22:34,480 –> 00:22:37,680
\nhere in the Bible.
\nThey are spirit, their power, <\/p>\n

342
\n00:22:37,840 –> 00:22:41,120
\ntheir words, but they’re just
\nnot letters on a page. <\/p>\n

343
\n00:22:42,600 –> 00:22:44,760
\nMaybe to some of their letters
\non a page? <\/p>\n

344
\n00:22:44,920 –> 00:22:47,320
\nYes.
\nBut you know they stopping <\/p>\n

345
\n00:22:47,320 –> 00:22:50,800
\nletters on a page at a certain
\npoint and the point is when you <\/p>\n

346
\n00:22:50,880 –> 00:22:54,800
\nbelieve them, you can’t actually
\npoint. <\/p>\n

347
\n00:22:55,000 –> 00:22:59,200
\nEven if you were under the most
\nadvanced of MRI machines, I <\/p>\n

348
\n00:22:59,200 –> 00:23:01,360
\nwouldn’t be able to take a
\nbeliever in a non believer and <\/p>\n

349
\n00:23:01,360 –> 00:23:05,200
\nput them under MRI machine and
\npoint to that’s the belief spot,<\/p>\n

350
\n00:23:05,480 –> 00:23:08,240
\nright?
\nI wouldn’t put it past <\/p>\n

351
\n00:23:08,240 –> 00:23:09,720
\nscientists to try to do that.
\nMaybe. <\/p>\n

352
\n00:23:09,960 –> 00:23:12,000
\nRight.
\nYou’re absolutely right, yeah. <\/p>\n

353
\n00:23:12,720 –> 00:23:17,800
\nBut here the those invisible
\nwords have entered into my mind <\/p>\n

354
\n00:23:18,760 –> 00:23:23,560
\nand they have absolutely changed
\nmy life. <\/p>\n

355
\n00:23:24,440 –> 00:23:30,200
\nMy life is completely different
\nbecause I believe them and they <\/p>\n

356
\n00:23:30,200 –> 00:23:37,480
\nhave power to translate me from
\ndeath to life like I was dead. <\/p>\n

357
\n00:23:38,600 –> 00:23:44,920
\nAnd then I got access to some
\nwords and I believe those words <\/p>\n

358
\n00:23:45,640 –> 00:23:52,120
\nand I acted on those words.
\nAnd because of the words written<\/p>\n

359
\n00:23:52,120 –> 00:23:57,360
\ndown spoken by men thousands of
\nyears ago, because I believed <\/p>\n

360
\n00:23:57,360 –> 00:24:01,720
\nthem and I acted on that belief.
\nI can’t point to the place, but <\/p>\n

361
\n00:24:01,720 –> 00:24:04,200
\nGod says my name’s now in the
\nbook of life. <\/p>\n

362
\n00:24:05,960 –> 00:24:13,960
\nSo words have created belief,
\nand belief has moved someone <\/p>\n

363
\n00:24:14,920 –> 00:24:23,040
\nfrom death to life.
\nThat’s power, and that’s why the<\/p>\n

364
\n00:24:23,040 –> 00:24:26,360
\nWord is spirit.
\nYeah, I can see what you’re <\/p>\n

365
\n00:24:26,360 –> 00:24:28,440
\ngetting at.
\nAnd I think it’s very helpful <\/p>\n

366
\n00:24:28,440 –> 00:24:30,760
\nbecause what Paul is talking
\nabout here about setting our <\/p>\n

367
\n00:24:30,760 –> 00:24:34,000
\nmind on the Spirit, I think a
\nlot of people kind of read that <\/p>\n

368
\n00:24:34,000 –> 00:24:36,840
\nand they just assume, well, is
\nthis just something that comes <\/p>\n

369
\n00:24:36,840 –> 00:24:39,960
\nout of the blue?
\nIs this just some sort of <\/p>\n

370
\n00:24:40,240 –> 00:24:43,480
\nthought that pops into my mind
\nthat I have the Spirit like we <\/p>\n

371
\n00:24:43,480 –> 00:24:45,880
\nwere talking about before?
\nIs it some sort of ecstatic <\/p>\n

372
\n00:24:45,880 –> 00:24:50,960
\nexperience that boom, all of a
\nsudden I know what to do those <\/p>\n

373
\n00:24:50,960 –> 00:24:54,240
\nkind of things, right?
\nBut what you’re saying is that <\/p>\n

374
\n00:24:54,840 –> 00:24:59,200
\nthis is really developed off of
\nfamiliarity with the word of <\/p>\n

375
\n00:24:59,200 –> 00:25:01,800
\nGod.
\nYou know, the Word of God is <\/p>\n

376
\n00:25:01,800 –> 00:25:05,040
\ntalked about as a seed, right?
\nYou know, there’s a parable. <\/p>\n

377
\n00:25:05,040 –> 00:25:06,880
\nThis sower goes out to sow a
\nseed. <\/p>\n

378
\n00:25:07,440 –> 00:25:12,080
\nPaul in First Corinthians
\nchapter 3, he says when he <\/p>\n

379
\n00:25:12,080 –> 00:25:16,240
\npreached he planted and he said
\nthis other brother in Christ, <\/p>\n

380
\n00:25:16,240 –> 00:25:19,240
\nApollo’s watered.
\nBut then he said God gave the <\/p>\n

381
\n00:25:19,240 –> 00:25:22,840
\nincrease to me.
\nIt’s almost like the Word and <\/p>\n

382
\n00:25:22,840 –> 00:25:26,680
\nthe Spirit are connected in that
\nway that the word to the seed <\/p>\n

383
\n00:25:27,360 –> 00:25:30,240
\nand that there is something
\ninside of us that makes this <\/p>\n

384
\n00:25:30,240 –> 00:25:35,920
\nword grow beyond what’s just a
\nletter on a page that we have <\/p>\n

385
\n00:25:35,920 –> 00:25:39,080
\nthe spirit now to take this and
\nsay, OK, here’s the spirit of <\/p>\n

386
\n00:25:39,080 –> 00:25:42,200
\nwhat this is saying.
\nOtherwise we’d just have a big <\/p>\n

387
\n00:25:42,200 –> 00:25:44,680
\nrule book, you know, trying to
\nmake every rule for every <\/p>\n

388
\n00:25:44,680 –> 00:25:48,480
\nsituation in our life.
\nBut that’s not possible, right? <\/p>\n

389
\n00:25:48,920 –> 00:25:52,360
\nSo we have to have something
\nthat’s spiritual that helps us <\/p>\n

390
\n00:25:52,360 –> 00:25:56,920
\nto form our thoughts to say, OK,
\nI’m dealing with this challenge <\/p>\n

391
\n00:25:56,920 –> 00:26:01,000
\nright now in my life.
\nAnd when I read the scriptures, <\/p>\n

392
\n00:26:01,400 –> 00:26:03,840
\nwhat’s the spirit of what the
\nscriptures is, is trying to <\/p>\n

393
\n00:26:03,840 –> 00:26:07,200
\nguide me in my life.
\nSo do you have other ideas about<\/p>\n

394
\n00:26:07,200 –> 00:26:11,120
\nlike, is Paul here talking about
\nthe Spirit in that way that it’s<\/p>\n

395
\n00:26:11,120 –> 00:26:14,200
\nreally the word?
\nI absolutely think that that is <\/p>\n

396
\n00:26:14,320 –> 00:26:17,640
\nthe sense in which Paul is
\ngetting at. <\/p>\n

397
\n00:26:18,320 –> 00:26:23,880
\nThis is sense in which you have
\nbelieved and so you have set <\/p>\n

398
\n00:26:23,880 –> 00:26:28,160
\nyour mind on the things of that
\nbelief. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:26:28,480 –> 00:26:33,720
\nNow you know, it says in Isaiah
\nthat God dwells in a high and a <\/p>\n

400
\n00:26:33,720 –> 00:26:39,680
\nholy place and also with Him
\nthat as of a contrite and a <\/p>\n

401
\n00:26:39,680 –> 00:26:42,080
\nhumble spirit.
\nOK. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:26:42,720 –> 00:26:45,680
\nAnd I think all of us have the
\nexperience of noticing someone <\/p>\n

403
\n00:26:45,960 –> 00:26:49,160
\nwho is humble and contrite
\nbecause of the effect of the <\/p>\n

404
\n00:26:49,160 –> 00:26:51,560
\nWord of God on them.
\nYes. <\/p>\n

405
\n00:26:52,280 –> 00:26:57,160
\nAnd as a result of that, they
\nmake choices and speak in such a<\/p>\n

406
\n00:26:57,160 –> 00:27:00,680
\nway that the word has had such
\nan influence on them that <\/p>\n

407
\n00:27:00,680 –> 00:27:03,160
\nthey’re not even speaking
\nthemselves. <\/p>\n

408
\n00:27:03,480 –> 00:27:08,560
\nIt’s like when they speak, you
\nhear God’s wisdom through their <\/p>\n

409
\n00:27:08,720 –> 00:27:13,600
\nexperience and you think to
\nyourself, God’s dwelling in that<\/p>\n

410
\n00:27:13,600 –> 00:27:15,400
\nperson.
\nNow, how is God dwelling in that<\/p>\n

411
\n00:27:15,400 –> 00:27:18,120
\nperson?
\nGod’s dwelling in that person? <\/p>\n

412
\n00:27:18,120 –> 00:27:20,200
\nBecause what they say isn’t
\nreally their words. <\/p>\n

413
\n00:27:20,200 –> 00:27:22,040
\nIt’s not the thoughts that come
\nfrom their flesh. <\/p>\n

414
\n00:27:22,960 –> 00:27:27,640
\nIt’s was the thoughts that came
\nto them from the outside in that<\/p>\n

415
\n00:27:27,640 –> 00:27:32,640
\nhave changed them because they
\nbelieved them and they acted on <\/p>\n

416
\n00:27:32,640 –> 00:27:35,680
\nthem.
\nAnd so they’re different because<\/p>\n

417
\n00:27:35,680 –> 00:27:37,720
\nsomething came from the outside
\nin. <\/p>\n

418
\n00:27:38,480 –> 00:27:44,160
\nAnd so now God dwells in that
\nperson through his Word. <\/p>\n

419
\n00:27:45,040 –> 00:27:50,840
\nAnd absolutely the Spirit of the
\nLord Jesus Christ has to dwell <\/p>\n

420
\n00:27:51,080 –> 00:27:54,200
\nwithin us.
\nAnd Paul’s going to say that <\/p>\n

421
\n00:27:54,200 –> 00:27:56,680
\nhere in Romans.
\nHe’s going to say if the Spirit <\/p>\n

422
\n00:27:56,680 –> 00:27:59,240
\nof the Lord Jesus Christ isn’t
\nin you, you don’t have any life.<\/p>\n

423
\n00:27:59,880 –> 00:28:03,920
\nAnd that is 100% true.
\nNot only did the Holy Spirit <\/p>\n

424
\n00:28:03,920 –> 00:28:06,960
\nraise Jesus from the dead, and
\nif the Holy Spirit doesn’t raise<\/p>\n

425
\n00:28:06,960 –> 00:28:08,560
\nus from the dead, we have no
\nlife. <\/p>\n

426
\n00:28:08,840 –> 00:28:10,560
\nSo the Holy Spirit better do
\nthat work. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:28:12,160 –> 00:28:15,120
\nBut the Holy Spirit is going to
\ndo that work because we believe,<\/p>\n

428
\n00:28:16,600 –> 00:28:19,320
\nand the Spirit that was in the
\nLord Jesus Christ, that Spirit <\/p>\n

429
\n00:28:19,320 –> 00:28:24,880
\nthat believed, if that Spirit is
\nabsent within us, then all we <\/p>\n

430
\n00:28:24,880 –> 00:28:27,960
\nhave is flesh and then all we
\nhave is death. <\/p>\n

431
\n00:28:29,760 –> 00:28:34,480
\nAnd so Christ better dwell
\nwithin us through His Spirit, <\/p>\n

432
\n00:28:34,720 –> 00:28:38,960
\njust like God said, He dwells in
\na person that is of a lowly and <\/p>\n

433
\n00:28:38,960 –> 00:28:44,360
\na contrite heart.
\nAnd of course, as believers on a<\/p>\n

434
\n00:28:44,360 –> 00:28:50,040
\nSunday, we partake of the bread
\nand the wine, don’t we? <\/p>\n

435
\n00:28:50,720 –> 00:28:53,800
\nAnd it’s not that we believe
\nthat that is literally the body <\/p>\n

436
\n00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:56,560
\nof the Lord Jesus Christ, in the
\nblood of the Lord Jesus Christ, <\/p>\n

437
\n00:28:56,560 –> 00:28:59,800
\nbut in symbol.
\nIt is those things. <\/p>\n

438
\n00:28:59,920 –> 00:29:04,800
\nAnd you take them in you, and
\nthey have to be in you, and they<\/p>\n

439
\n00:29:04,880 –> 00:29:08,320
\nhave to dwell in you beyond a
\nphysical sense, beyond the sense<\/p>\n

440
\n00:29:08,320 –> 00:29:11,200
\nof the flesh.
\nThey have to dwell within you in<\/p>\n

441
\n00:29:11,200 –> 00:29:15,440
\nthe sense of the Spirit.
\nAnd the best example of this I <\/p>\n

442
\n00:29:15,440 –> 00:29:19,080
\nthink is in John 6 where.
\nI was just thinking the same <\/p>\n

443
\n00:29:19,080 –> 00:29:20,640
\nthing.
\nYou want to turn over to John 6 <\/p>\n

444
\n00:29:20,640 –> 00:29:22,840
\nbecause I think it’s a good
\nexample of these principles. <\/p>\n

445
\n00:29:25,360 –> 00:29:28,840
\nYou’re in John 6 and says
\nthey’re in verse 54. <\/p>\n

446
\n00:29:29,920 –> 00:29:34,720
\nHe who eats my flesh and drinks
\nmy blood has eternal life, and I<\/p>\n

447
\n00:29:34,720 –> 00:29:36,600
\nwill raise him up in the last
\nday. <\/p>\n

448
\n00:29:37,160 –> 00:29:40,360
\nFor my flesh is food indeed, and
\nmy blood is drink indeed. <\/p>\n

449
\n00:29:40,520 –> 00:29:46,200
\nLeaves my flesh and drinks my
\nblood abides in me, and I abide <\/p>\n

450
\n00:29:46,240 –> 00:29:48,160
\nin him.
\nAnd now that’s very similar <\/p>\n

451
\n00:29:48,160 –> 00:29:50,800
\nlanguage, by the way, to what we
\nsee in Romans. <\/p>\n

452
\n00:29:50,800 –> 00:29:54,240
\nWhich mentions a dwelling.
\nYeah, dwelling or in the RSV <\/p>\n

453
\n00:29:54,240 –> 00:29:56,360
\nabiding.
\nSo same word there, right? <\/p>\n

454
\n00:29:56,440 –> 00:30:01,080
\nSo it’s the same idea of like,
\nif you eat my flesh and drink my<\/p>\n

455
\n00:30:01,080 –> 00:30:04,760
\nblood, you abide in me.
\nAnd of course you do as a <\/p>\n

456
\n00:30:04,760 –> 00:30:07,440
\nbeliever on a Sunday, you eat
\nthat bread and you drink that <\/p>\n

457
\n00:30:07,440 –> 00:30:11,560
\nwine and you do it in symbol.
\nSo this is very similar <\/p>\n

458
\n00:30:11,560 –> 00:30:14,040
\nlanguage.
\nWhy I want Christ to abide in <\/p>\n

459
\n00:30:14,040 –> 00:30:16,040
\nme.
\nHow do I do that? <\/p>\n

460
\n00:30:17,360 –> 00:30:22,600
\nThe record’s going to say that
\nwhen several of the disciples <\/p>\n

461
\n00:30:22,600 –> 00:30:28,480
\nheard this, they were offended
\nbecause it was a hard saying and<\/p>\n

462
\n00:30:28,480 –> 00:30:33,280
\nthey murmured amongst themselves
\nand Jesus says, do you take <\/p>\n

463
\n00:30:33,280 –> 00:30:37,480
\noffence at this?
\nAnd I think that this is an <\/p>\n

464
\n00:30:37,480 –> 00:30:41,200
\ninteresting concept here because
\nI just want to focus for a <\/p>\n

465
\n00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:45,000
\nmoment on that word offence
\nbecause here’s the interesting <\/p>\n

466
\n00:30:45,000 –> 00:30:48,600
\nthing is I want to just ask the
\nquestion. <\/p>\n

467
\n00:30:49,600 –> 00:30:54,240
\nThese words of the Lord Jesus
\nChrist were true and they were <\/p>\n

468
\n00:30:54,240 –> 00:30:57,520
\nlife.
\nBut how did they feel? <\/p>\n

469
\n00:30:59,320 –> 00:31:00,520
\nWell, I’ll tell you how they
\nfelt. <\/p>\n

470
\n00:31:01,480 –> 00:31:04,280
\nThey caused offence.
\nThey caused offence. <\/p>\n

471
\n00:31:05,440 –> 00:31:08,040
\nSee the the words of the Lord
\nJesus Christ don’t always feel <\/p>\n

472
\n00:31:08,040 –> 00:31:11,360
\ngood tooth.
\nHey, in this instance they <\/p>\n

473
\n00:31:11,360 –> 00:31:15,200
\ncaused offence.
\nIt’s the trouble of focusing on <\/p>\n

474
\n00:31:15,200 –> 00:31:17,040
\nfeelings.
\nHow do you think it would have <\/p>\n

475
\n00:31:17,040 –> 00:31:20,120
\nbeen for the 12 when they saw
\nall these disciples scatter? <\/p>\n

476
\n00:31:21,080 –> 00:31:24,160
\nYou see, Because what feels
\ngood, I tell you, you know what <\/p>\n

477
\n00:31:24,160 –> 00:31:26,640
\nfeels good?
\nWhat feels good is someone <\/p>\n

478
\n00:31:26,760 –> 00:31:30,560
\ngiving you bread they pull out
\nof a basket that you didn’t have<\/p>\n

479
\n00:31:30,560 –> 00:31:31,360
\nto.
\nWork free food. <\/p>\n

480
\n00:31:31,440 –> 00:31:34,920
\nYou know that feels good.
\nLike Genesis 319 says, by the <\/p>\n

481
\n00:31:34,920 –> 00:31:38,120
\nsweat of your face, you’re going
\nto create bread, right? <\/p>\n

482
\n00:31:39,120 –> 00:31:41,720
\nAnd here Jesus is pulling bread
\nout of a basket or like no sweat<\/p>\n

483
\n00:31:41,720 –> 00:31:44,560
\nof my face on that one.
\nThat feels great. <\/p>\n

484
\n00:31:44,840 –> 00:31:46,960
\nGive me this bread.
\nI want this bread. <\/p>\n

485
\n00:31:47,160 –> 00:31:48,640
\nGive me this bread.
\nAlways. <\/p>\n

486
\n00:31:48,960 –> 00:31:52,600
\nSee, that feels good.
\nAnd that is not what the Lord <\/p>\n

487
\n00:31:52,600 –> 00:31:55,720
\nJesus Christ was going to give
\nthem. <\/p>\n

488
\n00:31:55,720 –> 00:31:57,600
\nHe was going to give them
\nsomething so much better. <\/p>\n

489
\n00:31:57,600 –> 00:31:59,480
\nWell.
\nWhen you talk about flesh and <\/p>\n

490
\n00:31:59,480 –> 00:32:01,920
\nblood, you’re talking about
\ncrucifixion, you’re talking <\/p>\n

491
\n00:32:01,920 –> 00:32:04,800
\nabout suffering.
\nThat’s what he’s going to give <\/p>\n

492
\n00:32:04,800 –> 00:32:05,480
\nthem, right?
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

493
\n00:32:05,520 –> 00:32:08,160
\nDid that feel good, that.
\nDoesn’t feel good, yeah, but <\/p>\n

494
\n00:32:08,160 –> 00:32:10,160
\nthat’s the path they take up our
\ncross, right? <\/p>\n

495
\n00:32:10,360 –> 00:32:13,840
\nYeah, exactly.
\nSo what is it within us that <\/p>\n

496
\n00:32:13,840 –> 00:32:15,800
\nallows us to do what doesn’t
\nfeel good? <\/p>\n

497
\n00:32:16,920 –> 00:32:22,280
\nWhat is it within us that allows
\nus to choose to do the right <\/p>\n

498
\n00:32:22,280 –> 00:32:26,960
\nthing, the godly thing, even
\nwhen it feels bad? <\/p>\n

499
\n00:32:28,360 –> 00:32:33,560
\nThat’s spirit, that’s power.
\nThere’s something bigger than <\/p>\n

500
\n00:32:33,560 –> 00:32:37,240
\nour flesh.
\nThere’s something that’s within <\/p>\n

501
\n00:32:37,240 –> 00:32:39,840
\nus.
\nAllow us to do what’s right, <\/p>\n

502
\n00:32:40,320 –> 00:32:43,720
\neven when doing what’s right
\nfeels bad. <\/p>\n

503
\n00:32:45,760 –> 00:32:47,920
\nAnd that thing has to have
\npower. <\/p>\n

504
\n00:32:49,320 –> 00:32:54,160
\nAnd so actually in in relation
\nto feelings, having the spirit <\/p>\n

505
\n00:32:54,520 –> 00:32:58,400
\nis not only not worried about
\nhow you feel, it’s sometimes <\/p>\n

506
\n00:32:58,400 –> 00:33:01,920
\ndoing what doesn’t feel good in
\nreality. <\/p>\n

507
\n00:33:02,680 –> 00:33:06,120
\nAnd there’s got to be a power
\nwithin you that allows you to do<\/p>\n

508
\n00:33:06,120 –> 00:33:10,240
\nwhat doesn’t feel good, but is
\nwhat your Lord is asking of you.<\/p>\n

509
\n00:33:12,120 –> 00:33:14,480
\nAnd if you set your mind on
\nthings of the flesh and you want<\/p>\n

510
\n00:33:14,480 –> 00:33:18,480
\nthe free meal, right, then
\nyou’re going to murmur and <\/p>\n

511
\n00:33:18,480 –> 00:33:21,680
\nyou’re going to walk away.
\nAnd what’s interesting is when <\/p>\n

512
\n00:33:21,760 –> 00:33:24,480
\nJesus says, Hey, do you take
\noffense of me? <\/p>\n

513
\n00:33:25,600 –> 00:33:28,840
\nRight?
\nHe says this in verse 62 of John<\/p>\n

514
\n00:33:28,840 –> 00:33:31,840
\n6.
\nThen what if you see the Son of <\/p>\n

515
\n00:33:31,840 –> 00:33:33,640
\nMan ascending where He was
\nbefore? <\/p>\n

516
\n00:33:34,200 –> 00:33:37,760
\nIt is the Spirit that gives
\nlife. <\/p>\n

517
\n00:33:38,760 –> 00:33:42,640
\nThe flesh is of no avail.
\nWhen Jesus was talking about His<\/p>\n

518
\n00:33:42,640 –> 00:33:45,640
\nbody in his blood, they’re
\noffended because they didn’t <\/p>\n

519
\n00:33:45,640 –> 00:33:47,520
\nwant to literally eat his body
\nin the blood. <\/p>\n

520
\n00:33:48,360 –> 00:33:50,160
\nBut he’s like, no, no, no,
\nyou’ve missed it. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:33:50,920 –> 00:33:54,240
\nSee, it’s the Spirit.
\nIt’s the Spirit that gives life.<\/p>\n

522
\n00:33:54,480 –> 00:33:56,800
\nYou have to have belief in those
\nthings. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:33:58,240 –> 00:34:02,080
\nIf you don’t have belief in
\nthose things right, If you don’t<\/p>\n

524
\n00:34:02,080 –> 00:34:06,480
\ntake them inside and ingest them
\nso that I dwell in your heart <\/p>\n

525
\n00:34:06,480 –> 00:34:11,000
\nand within you to create the
\nconditions in which you do what <\/p>\n

526
\n00:34:11,000 –> 00:34:15,880
\nis right and good in God’s eyes,
\neven when it’s hard, if that <\/p>\n

527
\n00:34:15,880 –> 00:34:20,440
\ndoesn’t live within you, then
\nyou have no life within you. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:34:20,960 –> 00:34:22,480
\nIt’s the Spirit that gives
\nlight. <\/p>\n

529
\n00:34:22,480 –> 00:34:26,639
\nThe flesh is of no avail.
\nThe words that I’ve spoken to <\/p>\n

530
\n00:34:26,639 –> 00:34:32,800
\nyou are Spirit and life.
\nI couldn’t say it more clearly, <\/p>\n

531
\n00:34:32,800 –> 00:34:36,880
\nTim, could it?
\nThe words I’ve spoken to you are<\/p>\n

532
\n00:34:36,880 –> 00:34:40,480
\nspirit and life.
\nAnd of course, they leave. <\/p>\n

533
\n00:34:41,360 –> 00:34:43,400
\nThey don’t want this because it
\ndoesn’t feel good. <\/p>\n

534
\n00:34:43,760 –> 00:34:48,560
\nMany of the disciples abandoned
\nhim and so it says in verse 66. <\/p>\n

535
\n00:34:48,560 –> 00:34:52,400
\nAfter this, many disciples drew
\nback and no longer went about <\/p>\n

536
\n00:34:52,400 –> 00:34:54,920
\nwith him.
\nAnd Jesus said to the 12 do you <\/p>\n

537
\n00:34:54,920 –> 00:34:58,960
\nalso wish to go away?
\nAnd Simon Peter answered and <\/p>\n

538
\n00:34:58,960 –> 00:35:04,920
\nsaid, Lord, to whom shall we go?
\nYou have the words of eternal <\/p>\n

539
\n00:35:04,920 –> 00:35:08,600
\nlife.
\nSo Peter got it right. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:35:08,960 –> 00:35:13,840
\nSo what allowed Peter to stay
\nwhen everyone else left is he <\/p>\n

541
\n00:35:13,840 –> 00:35:16,120
\nhad belief.
\nYeah, Yeah, he did. <\/p>\n

542
\n00:35:16,680 –> 00:35:21,000
\nHe had the words of eternal
\nlife, and as believers, we take <\/p>\n

543
\n00:35:21,000 –> 00:35:24,640
\nthe symbols of the bread and the
\nwine and we take them within us.<\/p>\n

544
\n00:35:25,480 –> 00:35:29,640
\nAnd at the end of that process,
\nthe Spirit of the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n

545
\n00:35:29,640 –> 00:35:33,160
\nChrist and the fact that he was
\npoured out for his brother and <\/p>\n

546
\n00:35:33,160 –> 00:35:34,920
\nsisters, He was poured out for
\nus. <\/p>\n

547
\n00:35:35,120 –> 00:35:37,720
\nIf we don’t have a spirit in
\nwhich we’re willing to live as <\/p>\n

548
\n00:35:37,720 –> 00:35:40,960
\nresurrected believers and be
\npoured out for other believers <\/p>\n

549
\n00:35:42,160 –> 00:35:46,600
\nand do difficult things because
\nthis spirit compels us to do <\/p>\n

550
\n00:35:46,600 –> 00:35:51,560
\ndifficult things because we
\nbelieve, then we’ve just eaten <\/p>\n

551
\n00:35:51,560 –> 00:35:53,760
\nbread and dragon wine.
\nIt’s just physical. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:35:53,880 –> 00:35:58,240
\nIt’s just flesh.
\nYeah, well, you brought up verse<\/p>\n

553
\n00:35:58,240 –> 00:36:02,080
\n63 there.
\nJesus says the Spirit gives <\/p>\n

554
\n00:36:02,080 –> 00:36:04,600
\nlife, the flesh is no help at
\nall. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:36:05,040 –> 00:36:07,720
\nThe words that I’ve spoken to
\nyou are spirit in life. <\/p>\n

556
\n00:36:07,760 –> 00:36:12,560
\nI just like to go back to Romans
\nchapter 8 and just read verses 9<\/p>\n

557
\n00:36:12,560 –> 00:36:16,200
\nthrough 11 because it almost
\nseems like Paul is picking up on<\/p>\n

558
\n00:36:16,200 –> 00:36:17,840
\nthese words.
\nAbsolutely. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:36:18,680 –> 00:36:21,560
\nAnd when you read these two
\nback-to-back, Paul is talking <\/p>\n

560
\n00:36:21,560 –> 00:36:25,040
\nabout how the Spirit is life.
\nBut we see how Jesus says it’s <\/p>\n

561
\n00:36:25,040 –> 00:36:28,800
\nthe words that he’s saying.
\nThis is what Paul says in Romans<\/p>\n

562
\n00:36:28,800 –> 00:36:32,760
\n8 verses 9 through 11.
\nWell, let me start at verse 8. <\/p>\n

563
\n00:36:33,440 –> 00:36:36,720
\nThose who are in the flesh
\ncannot please God. <\/p>\n

564
\n00:36:37,200 –> 00:36:42,040
\nYou, however, are not in the
\nflesh, but in the Spirit, if in <\/p>\n

565
\n00:36:42,040 –> 00:36:46,160
\nfact the Spirit of God dwells in
\nyou. <\/p>\n

566
\n00:36:46,920 –> 00:36:51,280
\nAnyone who does not have the
\nSpirit of Christ does not belong<\/p>\n

567
\n00:36:51,280 –> 00:36:55,200
\nto Him.
\nBut if Christ is in you, <\/p>\n

568
\n00:36:56,000 –> 00:37:00,640
\nalthough the body is dead
\nbecause of sin, the Spirit is <\/p>\n

569
\n00:37:00,640 –> 00:37:06,840
\nlife because of righteousness.
\nIf the Spirit of Him who raised <\/p>\n

570
\n00:37:06,840 –> 00:37:13,000
\nJesus from the dead dwells in
\nyou, he who raised Christ Jesus <\/p>\n

571
\n00:37:13,000 –> 00:37:17,640
\nfrom the dead will also give
\nlife to your mortal bodies <\/p>\n

572
\n00:37:18,200 –> 00:37:22,840
\nthrough his Spirit who dwells in
\nyou. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:37:22,840 –> 00:37:28,040
\nThere’s so much in there, but I
\nlove this part in verse 11 where<\/p>\n

574
\n00:37:28,040 –> 00:37:31,320
\nhe puts a lot of words to where
\nhe could have simply said the <\/p>\n

575
\n00:37:31,320 –> 00:37:35,080
\nSpirit of God.
\nHe says the Spirit of him who <\/p>\n

576
\n00:37:35,080 –> 00:37:38,480
\nraised Jesus from the dead
\ndwells in you. <\/p>\n

577
\n00:37:39,240 –> 00:37:42,200
\nIt’s a resurrection power,
\nright? <\/p>\n

578
\n00:37:42,200 –> 00:37:45,360
\nThe Spirit raised Jesus from the
\ndead, literally. <\/p>\n

579
\n00:37:45,640 –> 00:37:50,880
\nBut that’s what Jesus is calling
\nus to do is to be resurrected <\/p>\n

580
\n00:37:51,280 –> 00:37:54,640
\nthrough baptism and through the
\nrenewing and the changing the <\/p>\n

581
\n00:37:54,640 –> 00:38:00,040
\nSpirit of our minds to be
\ncreated in his image and his <\/p>\n

582
\n00:38:00,040 –> 00:38:03,240
\nlikeness, right?
\nSo I just love how he draws that<\/p>\n

583
\n00:38:03,240 –> 00:38:07,320
\nout and puts that echo there.
\nBut he also mentions 3 times he <\/p>\n

584
\n00:38:07,320 –> 00:38:09,480
\nmentions this aspect of it
\ndwelling in you. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:38:09,760 –> 00:38:14,080
\nBut Paul here does in this verse
\nthat the Spirit of God, which he<\/p>\n

586
\n00:38:14,080 –> 00:38:18,840
\nsays is also the Spirit of
\nChrist, has to be dwelling in <\/p>\n

587
\n00:38:18,840 –> 00:38:20,880
\nus.
\nSo we have to understand that <\/p>\n

588
\n00:38:20,880 –> 00:38:23,720
\nthis is not a mystery.
\nWe know how it happens. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:38:24,400 –> 00:38:27,080
\nIt’s by setting our minds on the
\nthings of the Spirit, which is <\/p>\n

590
\n00:38:27,080 –> 00:38:31,040
\nthe words of Christ.
\nWe are taught that, we learn <\/p>\n

591
\n00:38:31,240 –> 00:38:33,240
\nthat we incorporate, that we
\nbelieve. <\/p>\n

592
\n00:38:33,240 –> 00:38:36,600
\nLike you’ve said, oh, that’s so
\nimportant. <\/p>\n

593
\n00:38:36,640 –> 00:38:40,200
\nAnd that’s really to me, is how
\nthe Spirit is supposed to guide <\/p>\n

594
\n00:38:40,320 –> 00:38:43,800
\nour life.
\nWell, I think that sometimes the<\/p>\n

595
\n00:38:43,800 –> 00:38:46,600
\nword spirit can be a difficult
\nconcept to understand because <\/p>\n

596
\n00:38:46,600 –> 00:38:50,120
\nthe word is used so broadly.
\nYeah, but the Spirit of the Lord<\/p>\n

597
\n00:38:50,120 –> 00:38:56,680
\nJesus Christ was a spirit within
\nhim that absolutely believed in <\/p>\n

598
\n00:38:56,680 –> 00:39:02,160
\nthe things that God had promised
\nand had total dedication within <\/p>\n

599
\n00:39:02,160 –> 00:39:08,200
\nhimself to do God’s will.
\nAnd that spirit in some measure <\/p>\n

600
\n00:39:08,640 –> 00:39:14,680
\nmust be within us.
\nAnd it is in us when we read <\/p>\n

601
\n00:39:14,680 –> 00:39:19,920
\nwhat Jesus has done and we
\nbelieve, and then as a result of<\/p>\n

602
\n00:39:19,920 –> 00:39:24,400
\nthat belief, we start to make
\ndifficult choices that don’t <\/p>\n

603
\n00:39:24,400 –> 00:39:29,560
\nfeel good to our flesh, but
\nwhich are honoring to God. <\/p>\n

604
\n00:39:30,880 –> 00:39:39,400
\nWe set our mind on the things of
\nthe Spirit, and that spirit must<\/p>\n

605
\n00:39:39,400 –> 00:39:42,720
\nbe within us, because you can’t
\nset your mind on something you <\/p>\n

606
\n00:39:42,720 –> 00:39:47,320
\ndon’t have.
\nYou don’t ask people to read the<\/p>\n

607
\n00:39:47,320 –> 00:39:52,480
\nBible just to torture them.
\nThe idea is to get these ideas <\/p>\n

608
\n00:39:52,720 –> 00:39:59,040
\ninto their mind so that they can
\nset their mind on it. <\/p>\n

609
\n00:39:59,560 –> 00:40:02,960
\nBecause if they don’t have these
\nideas in their mind. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:40:03,360 –> 00:40:08,920
\nThen the default will always be
\nsatisfy the cravings of my body.<\/p>\n

611
\n00:40:10,600 –> 00:40:14,000
\nSo if a listener is staying
\nthere right now and they’re <\/p>\n

612
\n00:40:14,000 –> 00:40:19,120
\nmaking choices that are not in
\nthe interest of satisfying the <\/p>\n

613
\n00:40:19,120 –> 00:40:24,880
\ncravings of their body, but are
\nallowing them to do what God’s <\/p>\n

614
\n00:40:24,880 –> 00:40:30,680
\nwill is because of their belief,
\nthen that is the result of <\/p>\n

615
\n00:40:30,680 –> 00:40:32,600
\nsteady your mind on the things
\nof the Spirit. <\/p>\n

616
\n00:40:32,640 –> 00:40:37,760
\nAnd that can only occur because
\nthe Spirit of Christ dwells <\/p>\n

617
\n00:40:37,760 –> 00:40:42,360
\nwithin you because of what
\nyou’ve heard and Christ saying, <\/p>\n

618
\n00:40:42,360 –> 00:40:47,120
\nmy words are spirit and my words
\nare life. <\/p>\n

619
\n00:40:48,160 –> 00:40:51,280
\nAnd it changes you.
\nAnd you can have spiritual <\/p>\n

620
\n00:40:51,280 –> 00:40:56,600
\nexperiences in which because of
\nthe word, the Spirit in my life,<\/p>\n

621
\n00:40:57,040 –> 00:41:00,440
\nthings that I used to struggle
\nwith and really strain against, <\/p>\n

622
\n00:41:00,720 –> 00:41:05,280
\nnow they don’t tempt me as much
\nas they did before because God’s<\/p>\n

623
\n00:41:05,280 –> 00:41:09,400
\nrelieved me of that.
\nBecause of following the things <\/p>\n

624
\n00:41:09,400 –> 00:41:13,080
\nof the Spirit.
\nPaul says things that he used to<\/p>\n

625
\n00:41:13,080 –> 00:41:16,080
\ntreasure, he now considers done
\nright. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:41:16,200 –> 00:41:19,440
\nWell, there’s obviously a
\nchange, you know, something that<\/p>\n

627
\n00:41:19,440 –> 00:41:21,520
\nused to really tempt him and
\nthings that he wanted. <\/p>\n

628
\n00:41:21,520 –> 00:41:24,000
\nAnd now he looks at those things
\nand they’re not valuable to him <\/p>\n

629
\n00:41:24,000 –> 00:41:26,000
\nanymore.
\nAnd he’s changed, and that <\/p>\n

630
\n00:41:26,000 –> 00:41:29,760
\nhappens, right?
\nBut that happens because you set<\/p>\n

631
\n00:41:29,760 –> 00:41:31,280
\nyour mind on things of the
\nSpirit. <\/p>\n

632
\n00:41:32,480 –> 00:41:36,080
\nAnd I think what Paul’s even
\ndoing in verses 9 to 11, he’s <\/p>\n

633
\n00:41:36,080 –> 00:41:38,640
\nsaying, because you might think
\nto yourself, set your mind on <\/p>\n

634
\n00:41:38,640 –> 00:41:40,360
\nthe things of the Spirit.
\nThat’s so hard. <\/p>\n

635
\n00:41:40,360 –> 00:41:44,640
\nHow do I do that?
\nAnd I think the overall emphasis<\/p>\n

636
\n00:41:45,680 –> 00:41:51,080
\nis that the spirit is greater
\nthan the flesh, the spirits <\/p>\n

637
\n00:41:51,080 –> 00:41:54,320
\novercome the flesh, and that
\nwhat’s with you and what’s <\/p>\n

638
\n00:41:54,320 –> 00:41:56,600
\nworking for you and what’s
\ntrying to help you in this <\/p>\n

639
\n00:41:56,600 –> 00:41:59,520
\nendeavour is greater than what’s
\nworking against you. <\/p>\n

640
\n00:42:00,320 –> 00:42:03,600
\nAnd I know that because it
\nresurrected a man from the dead.<\/p>\n

641
\n00:42:03,600 –> 00:42:06,440
\nAnd the flesh can’t do that.
\nThe flesh can’t do that. <\/p>\n

642
\n00:42:07,200 –> 00:42:10,240
\nSo whatever the spirit is, it’s
\ngot to be greater than the flesh<\/p>\n

643
\n00:42:10,240 –> 00:42:12,440
\nbecause it can do the things the
\nflesh can’t do. <\/p>\n

644
\n00:42:13,800 –> 00:42:17,040
\nAnd we’re meant to feel comfort
\nas a result of what Paul’s <\/p>\n

645
\n00:42:17,040 –> 00:42:20,000
\nsaying here, not be confused, be
\ncomforted. <\/p>\n

646
\n00:42:20,920 –> 00:42:23,320
\nRight.
\nNot feel defeated, not let our <\/p>\n

647
\n00:42:23,320 –> 00:42:26,560
\nflesh lie to us.
\nAnd you feel like we’re a fraud <\/p>\n

648
\n00:42:26,560 –> 00:42:29,600
\nor something like that, right?
\nBecause we’re to expect this <\/p>\n

649
\n00:42:29,600 –> 00:42:32,200
\nbattle.
\nBut like you’re saying, when we <\/p>\n

650
\n00:42:32,200 –> 00:42:36,400
\nlet that word, when we let that
\nspirit influence us and overtake<\/p>\n

651
\n00:42:36,400 –> 00:42:38,840
\nus, what does it do to the
\ncarnal mind? <\/p>\n

652
\n00:42:38,840 –> 00:42:41,280
\nIt starts putting it to death.
\nThat’s right. <\/p>\n

653
\n00:42:41,280 –> 00:42:43,840
\nAnd you have these battles where
\nit’s being put to death. <\/p>\n

654
\n00:42:43,840 –> 00:42:47,040
\nAnd of course you lose some
\nbattles, but the important thing<\/p>\n

655
\n00:42:47,040 –> 00:42:50,240
\nis there that God and Christ are
\nthere helping us to win the war.<\/p>\n

656
\n00:42:50,520 –> 00:42:51,960
\nRight.
\nAbsolutely. <\/p>\n

657
\n00:42:52,360 –> 00:42:55,800
\nWell, what else is there to say?
\nA lot. <\/p>\n

658
\n00:42:56,720 –> 00:42:59,720
\nI think we just touched the tip
\nof the iceberg here, especially <\/p>\n

659
\n00:42:59,720 –> 00:43:02,600
\nin Romans chapter 8.
\nHe goes on to talk about the <\/p>\n

660
\n00:43:02,600 –> 00:43:05,520
\nSpirit some more, but I think
\nthis is a just a really good <\/p>\n

661
\n00:43:05,520 –> 00:43:08,600
\nstarting point when we talk
\nabout essential Bible studies, <\/p>\n

662
\n00:43:09,240 –> 00:43:11,680
\nthis is one of them, right?
\nThis is not the only place that <\/p>\n

663
\n00:43:11,760 –> 00:43:17,200
\nPaul talks about the Spirit, but
\nthis is a really key passage and<\/p>\n

664
\n00:43:17,400 –> 00:43:20,040
\nI’m so glad that God touched
\nyour life with it. <\/p>\n

665
\n00:43:20,040 –> 00:43:22,960
\nHe’s touched my life with this
\npassage as well. <\/p>\n

666
\n00:43:23,440 –> 00:43:27,160
\nBut as we’ve been saying, it’s
\nsomething learned over time, <\/p>\n

667
\n00:43:27,520 –> 00:43:29,680
\nright?
\nIt’s something that’s gradual, <\/p>\n

668
\n00:43:29,680 –> 00:43:32,520
\nlike the growth of a plant, like
\nwe were talking about before, <\/p>\n

669
\n00:43:32,520 –> 00:43:35,480
\nfrom a seed, it sprouts up
\npretty quickly. <\/p>\n

670
\n00:43:35,480 –> 00:43:38,280
\nBut as it’s nourished and
\ncontinues to grow, it’s a slow <\/p>\n

671
\n00:43:38,280 –> 00:43:42,560
\nprocess before it actually bears
\nfruit, the fruit of the Spirit. <\/p>\n

672
\n00:43:42,760 –> 00:43:45,800
\nI always like to say God does
\nthe hard work like, you know, <\/p>\n

673
\n00:43:45,800 –> 00:43:51,120
\nplanting, watering, ho hum,
\nbringing a flowering plant from <\/p>\n

674
\n00:43:51,120 –> 00:43:55,800
\na seed this small, that’s hard.
\nGod does the hard work, right? <\/p>\n

675
\n00:43:55,800 –> 00:43:57,800
\nNot us.
\nAnd I think the Spirit the same.<\/p>\n

676
\n00:43:57,800 –> 00:44:03,480
\nWe read, we pray, we try and you
\nthink where’s the change going <\/p>\n

677
\n00:44:03,480 –> 00:44:05,120
\nto come?
\nYou say, well, give God time. <\/p>\n

678
\n00:44:05,120 –> 00:44:08,960
\nGod’s going to do the hard work.
\nYeah, yeah, beautiful. <\/p>\n

679
\n00:44:09,360 –> 00:44:11,480
\nHe’ll grow it within you.
\nYeah, it’s just amazing. <\/p>\n

680
\n00:44:11,480 –> 00:44:14,480
\nAnd a lot of times, yeah, you
\njust have to stand back and just<\/p>\n

681
\n00:44:14,480 –> 00:44:17,240
\nwonder and be amazed at
\neverything that God does. <\/p>\n

682
\n00:44:17,600 –> 00:44:19,680
\nAll right, Ben.
\nWell, thank you very much for <\/p>\n

683
\n00:44:19,680 –> 00:44:21,640
\njoining me.
\nI know you’re very a busy man. <\/p>\n

684
\n00:44:21,640 –> 00:44:24,320
\nI really appreciate it.
\nAnd I think this is a great <\/p>\n

685
\n00:44:24,320 –> 00:44:26,560
\nsession that we’ve had.
\nI’d like to do it again <\/p>\n

686
\n00:44:26,560 –> 00:44:27,480
\nsometime.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

687
\n00:44:27,480 –> 00:44:28,560
\nSure.
\nThank you, Tim. <\/p>\n

688
\n00:44:28,560 –> 00:44:31,800
\nIt’s really wonderful connect
\nand thank you for inviting me as<\/p>\n

689
\n00:44:31,840 –> 00:44:33,120
\na guest.
\nI really appreciate it. <\/p>\n

690
\n00:44:33,640 –> 00:44:34,400
\nAll right.
\nThanks, Ben. <\/p>\n

691
\n00:44:34,480 –> 00:44:46,960
\nTake care.
\nThis marks the 70th episode of <\/p>\n

692
\n00:44:46,960 –> 00:44:49,200
\nthe Essential Bible Studies
\npodcast. <\/p>\n

693
\n00:44:50,040 –> 00:44:52,000
\nThat means if you’re new to the
\npodcast, there’s a. <\/p>\n

694
\n00:44:52,000 –> 00:44:55,520
\nLot of great listening for.
\nYou in our back catalog 70 <\/p>\n

695
\n00:44:55,520 –> 00:44:59,080
\npodcasts are a lot, but there’s
\nso much more fascinating topics <\/p>\n

696
\n00:44:59,080 –> 00:45:02,040
\nto come.
\nJoin us next week when Jay <\/p>\n

697
\n00:45:02,040 –> 00:45:06,200
\nMayock is back to talk with me
\nabout the relationship between <\/p>\n

698
\n00:45:06,480 –> 00:45:10,880
\nGod the Father, Jesus Christ His
\nSon, and the Holy Spirit, <\/p>\n

699
\n00:45:11,520 –> 00:45:14,920
\npopularly known as the Trinity.
\nWe’re going to traverse some of <\/p>\n

700
\n00:45:14,920 –> 00:45:18,240
\nthe history of that term and
\nstudy some of the verses that <\/p>\n

701
\n00:45:18,240 –> 00:45:21,560
\ntalk about the Father, Son, and
\nthe Holy Spirit. <\/p>\n

702
\n00:45:24,080 –> 00:45:28,080
\nAs always, look out for us on
\nFacebook, Instagram or X and <\/p>\n

703
\n00:45:28,080 –> 00:45:31,200
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\ntimeline or story so others can <\/p>\n

704
\n00:45:31,200 –> 00:45:36,480
\ndiscover it as well.
\nYes, you plant all water and God<\/p>\n

705
\n00:45:36,480 –> 00:45:43,560
\nwill give the increase.
\nMake sure to visit our website <\/p>\n

706
\n00:45:43,560 –> 00:45:49,240
\nat www.essentialbiblestudies.org
\nand use the contact form to send<\/p>\n

707
\n00:45:49,240 –> 00:45:52,120
\nus a question.
\nYou can request one of our free <\/p>\n

708
\n00:45:52,120 –> 00:45:56,400
\nmedia kits or get the link to
\njoin our online Bible study <\/p>\n

709
\n00:45:56,400 –> 00:46:02,800
\ngroup.
\nThe Essential Bible Studies <\/p>\n

710
\n00:46:02,800 –> 00:46:04,920
\npodcast is sponsored by the book
\nRd. <\/p>\n

711
\n00:46:04,920 –> 00:46:10,240
\nChristadelphian Ecclesia in
\nbeautiful Ancaster ON Canada. <\/p>\n

712
\n00:46:14,400 –> 00:46:17,520
\nUntil we meet again, dear
\nfriends, I pray to God that you <\/p>\n

713
\n00:46:17,520 –> 00:46:20,400
\nmay grow in the grace and
\nknowledge of our Lord and Savior<\/p>\n

714
\n00:46:20,400 –> 00:46:23,640
\nof Jesus Christ.
\nTo Him be the glory both now and<\/p>\n

715
\n00:46:23,640 –> 00:46:26,280
\nto the day of eternity.
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