{"id":1325,"date":"2025-06-22T21:00:01","date_gmt":"2025-06-22T21:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/253-john-bilello-darwin-or-god-psa-19\/"},"modified":"2026-08-24T00:22:27","modified_gmt":"2026-08-24T00:22:27","slug":"253-john-bilello-darwin-or-god-psa-19","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/253-john-bilello-darwin-or-god-psa-19\/","title":{"rendered":"353: John Bilello – Darwin or God? (Psa. 19)"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week’s talk is a Bible Class by Brother John Bilello that he gave at the Los Angeles Eccleisa on the subject, “Darwin or God?” on April 23, 1997.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to good Chris selfie and
\ntalks. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi.
\nI’m Chris. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Jason.
\nAnd I’m Brian, thank you for <\/p>\n

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\njoining us this week on this
\npodcast. <\/p>\n

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\nWe select one talk a week to
\nhelp us get the Bible in our <\/p>\n

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\nDaily News feed.
\nEach week we post a talk that we<\/p>\n

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\npreviewed from suggestions sent
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\nworld.
\nThen we record a short intro <\/p>\n

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\nbeforehand as a personalized
\nrecommendation to you on why we <\/p>\n

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\nare sharing the talk.
\nAnd now let’s talk more about <\/p>\n

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\nthis week’s talk.
\nHey everyone, this is Jason <\/p>\n

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\nHensley.
\nThis week we are going to be <\/p>\n

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\nlistening to a talk by Brother
\nJohn Bolello. <\/p>\n

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\nI believe it was given at the LA
\nEcclesia and I’m not totally <\/p>\n

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\nsure the date.
\nHowever, when you listen to the <\/p>\n

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\ntalk, you’ll notice that there’s
\na few things that he says that <\/p>\n

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\nmakes it sound like we’re
\nlooking at probably the late <\/p>\n

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\n90s.
\nNow you might be wondering, why <\/p>\n

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\nare we listening to a talk about
\nscience from the late 90s? <\/p>\n

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\nYou know, that’s almost 30 years
\nago, so surely the science is <\/p>\n

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\noutdated.
\nAnd I would agree with the <\/p>\n

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\nsentiment that there are some
\nthings that are outdated here. <\/p>\n

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\nSo when you listen to this, you
\nhave to listen with a discerning<\/p>\n

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\nmind.
\nBut at the same time, I think a <\/p>\n

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\nnumber of the things that
\nBrother John brings out are <\/p>\n

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\nstill really helpful to
\nconsider. <\/p>\n

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\nHe talks about his colleagues at
\nthe University of Michigan and <\/p>\n

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\nhow a number of his colleagues
\nbelieve in God. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd he makes a really helpful
\ndistinction, I think, between <\/p>\n

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\nthe direction that science goes
\nin the belief in God and the <\/p>\n

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\ndirection that liberal arts tend
\nto go in the belief in God. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I found that in my own work
\nthat it really does tend to be <\/p>\n

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\nthe liberal arts focus that
\nseeks to remove God and <\/p>\n

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\ninspiration from texts like the
\nBible. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I think there’s helpful,
\nfoundational kind of stuff that <\/p>\n

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\nhe goes through in this talk.
\nSome of the immediate things <\/p>\n

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\nthat he talks about, like he’ll
\nreference, you know, an article <\/p>\n

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\nthat just came out or something
\nlike that. <\/p>\n

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\nWell, we can recognize that the
\narticle is old, but I think <\/p>\n

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\nreally a lot of his foundational
\npoints and a lot of the main <\/p>\n

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\nideas that he brings out are
\nreally helpful to consider. <\/p>\n

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\nSo this is Brother John Bilello
\nwith his talk entitled Darwin or<\/p>\n

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\nGod-given likely at the Los
\nAngeles Ecclesia, probably <\/p>\n

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\nsometime in the late 1990s.
\nEnjoy. <\/p>\n

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\nSome of you attended last year
\nwhen we did the Bible and <\/p>\n

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\nScience seminar in Simi Hills.
\nI talked about the Bible and <\/p>\n

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\nphysics.
\nI’m not going to talk about that<\/p>\n

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\nat all tonight.
\nI’m going to concentrate <\/p>\n

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\ntonight’s talk on evolution and
\non Darwin and on some of the <\/p>\n

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\nissues arising thereof.
\nAnd it’s been kind of <\/p>\n

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\nprogressively aware that in many
\nways, the way evolution gets <\/p>\n

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\ntaught in high school is usually
\nabout 20 years behind what’s <\/p>\n

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\nwhat scientists are doing who
\nare working in the field. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s also a common sort of
\nmythology that scientists do not<\/p>\n

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\nbelieve in God.
\nI don’t think that’s true <\/p>\n

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\neither.
\nAt the university, many of the <\/p>\n

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\npeople I work with in the
\nphysics department and in the <\/p>\n

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\nmaterial science department not
\nonly believe in God but are <\/p>\n

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\nquite faithful.
\nAnd several people are very <\/p>\n

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\northodox.
\nJews, for example, every day do <\/p>\n

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\ntheir daily readings, every day
\ndo their prayers, and are very <\/p>\n

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\ndedicated to God’s word.
\nAnd they do not accept a Darwin <\/p>\n

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\nas a answer to creation.
\nAnd it is not unusual at all to <\/p>\n

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\nget into debates, but most often
\nwith the philosophers. <\/p>\n

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\nScientists themselves have a
\ngreat deal of reason and, and <\/p>\n

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\nparticularly in physics over the
\nrecent years, there have been so<\/p>\n

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\nmany different discoveries in
\nthe universe and in relation to <\/p>\n

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\nthe structure of matter that
\npeople have been really <\/p>\n

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\nwondering about it.
\nI picked this passage and I’m <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to read you several more
\npassages because I want you to <\/p>\n

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\nrealize that God has written to
\nus in two ways. <\/p>\n

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\nThe first is through the Word of
\nGod in the Scriptures, which He <\/p>\n

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\nhas confirmed through His
\nprophets and His holy men, and <\/p>\n

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\nGod has confirmed that word
\nthrough Jesus Christ. <\/p>\n

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\nThe second way is through nature
\nitself. <\/p>\n

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\nGod is the author of nature, and
\nwhen we read this in Psalm 19 <\/p>\n

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\nverse one, the heavens declare
\nthe glory of God and the <\/p>\n

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\nfirmament or the earth show it
\nhis handiwork. <\/p>\n

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\nI think we ought to take that
\nquite at face value, that the <\/p>\n

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\nevidence of God is everywhere
\naround us in nature, in the in <\/p>\n

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\nthe marvelous design in which
\nGod has created life and the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse itself and the laws
\nwhich govern it. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd these are not accidents.
\nAnd so that it’s perfectly <\/p>\n

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\nlegitimate to to look into these
\nthings and to presume that we, <\/p>\n

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\nwe understand that these things
\nare not just accident. <\/p>\n

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\nThey’re not just there by some
\nfantastic roll of the dice. <\/p>\n

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\nThey’re there because God has
\ndesigned it. <\/p>\n

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\nIn fact, in a recent book, one
\nJewish physicist said, I like <\/p>\n

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\nthis phrase.
\nHe said that the God is the <\/p>\n

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\nauthor of physics, the laws of
\nphysics. <\/p>\n

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\nIn a sense, God was the first
\nphysicist and the laws which <\/p>\n

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\ngovern creation were done that
\nway. <\/p>\n

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\nI want to show you something
\ninteresting. <\/p>\n

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\nA couple of weeks ago when I was
\nup in the Bay Area, I picked up <\/p>\n

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\nthe San Francisco Chronicle,
\nwhich is obviously not a paper I<\/p>\n

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\nwould usually read.
\nAnd this, this paper had <\/p>\n

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\npublished this, this report
\nbased on a scientific survey, <\/p>\n

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\nand I’ll read it to you.
\nScientists have been accused of <\/p>\n

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\nplaying God when they clone
\nsheep and of naysaying God when <\/p>\n

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\nthey insist that evolution be
\ntaught in school. <\/p>\n

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\nBut a new study indicates that
\nmany scientists believe in God <\/p>\n

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\nby the most mainstream,
\nuppercase definition of that <\/p>\n

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\nconcept repeating verbatim a
\nfamous survey first conducted in<\/p>\n

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\n1916.
\nEdward Larson of the University <\/p>\n

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\nof Georgia has found that the
\ndepth of religious faith among <\/p>\n

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\nscientists has not budged,
\nregardless of whatever <\/p>\n

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\nscientific and technical
\nadvances this century has <\/p>\n

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\nwrought.
\nThen, as now, that’s about <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s 80 years ago more.
\nAbout 40% of responding <\/p>\n

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\nbiologists, physicists and
\nmathematicians said they <\/p>\n

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\nbelieved in a God who, by the
\nsurvey strict definition, <\/p>\n

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\nactively communicates with
\nhumankind and to whom one may <\/p>\n

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\npray in expectation of receiving
\nan answer. <\/p>\n

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\nLuba, A devout atheist, had
\npredicted that disbelief in God <\/p>\n

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\nwould grow as education spread,
\nand Larson decided to use the <\/p>\n

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\npsychologist’s exact methods to
\nsee if that prediction held. <\/p>\n

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\nHe polled the same number of
\nresearchers as had Luba and used<\/p>\n

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\nthe same source for picking his
\nsubjects. <\/p>\n

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\nThe directory American Men and
\nWomen of Science, a compendium <\/p>\n

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\nof research, is success
\nsuccessful enough to win awards <\/p>\n

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\nand be cited regularly in
\nscientific literature. <\/p>\n

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\nHe followed Luba’s survey format
\nto the letter with the same <\/p>\n

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\nintroduction and the same
\nquestions written in the same <\/p>\n

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\nstilted language, even in
\nclosing the same type of <\/p>\n

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\nenvelope.
\nMore than 600 of about 1000 <\/p>\n

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\nscientists answers the
\nquestionnaire, and it was <\/p>\n

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\nsimilar to Luba’s response rate
\n80 years ago. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd this is a very strict
\ndefinition. <\/p>\n

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\nI believe if you asked
\nscientists a simple question, <\/p>\n

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\njust that they believe in God is
\nthe creator of the universe, <\/p>\n

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\nprobably 85 or 90% would say
\nyes. <\/p>\n

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\nThis strict definition of a God
\nwho answers prayer and <\/p>\n

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\neverything is, is, I think much
\nmore complicated. <\/p>\n

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\nBut nevertheless, this person,
\nLuber, psychologist, 80 years <\/p>\n

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\nago took a survey and he
\nexpected that within 25 to 40 <\/p>\n

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\nyears, no one would believe in
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it turns out the very people
\nwho he hoped to to use as proof <\/p>\n

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\nstill have this great faith and
\nthis this book. <\/p>\n

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\nAmerican men and women of
\nscience should go look it up in <\/p>\n

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\nthe library for yourself.
\nAnd if you look up Bolello, I <\/p>\n

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\nthink I’m in there.
\nIt may be a relative, I’m not <\/p>\n

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\nsure.
\nTake, take a look and you’ll be.<\/p>\n

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\nIt’s kind of interesting.
\nSo this idea that scientists <\/p>\n

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\ndon’t believe in God, I don’t
\nthink it’s true and I think it’s<\/p>\n

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\ntoo often cited.
\nIn fact, in another survey about<\/p>\n

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\n10 years ago at Yale University
\namong students, it was found <\/p>\n

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\nthat the physics students
\nbelieved in God by more than <\/p>\n

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\nthree to 1 and the divinity
\nstudents were split about half <\/p>\n

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\nhalf, Which I think is kind of
\ninteresting and shows you what <\/p>\n

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\nmay be somewhat wrong with with
\nthe way religion is being <\/p>\n

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\npresented to to people that if
\nthe people who was responsible <\/p>\n

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\nin in the community at wide for
\nthat word do not have deep <\/p>\n

153
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\nfaith, then how can you have the
\ncongregations to be faithful? <\/p>\n

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\nI want you to look at a few
\nother quotes that are that I <\/p>\n

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\nthink are relevant to Psalm 14
\nand one if you if you would <\/p>\n

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\nfollow me and it will all be up
\non the screen. <\/p>\n

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\nSo if you don’t have to really
\ngo looking back, but you might <\/p>\n

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\nwant to note a few of these
\nverses. <\/p>\n

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\nThe fool said in his heart,
\nthere is no God. <\/p>\n

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\nThey are corrupt.
\nThey have done abominable works.<\/p>\n

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\nThere is none to do with good.
\nThe Lord looked down from heaven<\/p>\n

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\nupon the children of men to see
\nif there were any that did <\/p>\n

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\nunderstand and seek God.
\nAnd that that’s important that <\/p>\n

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\nif we understand we believe in
\nGod, then we have to seek him <\/p>\n

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\nout.
\nThere’s a responsibility on us <\/p>\n

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\nto do something about it.
\nAnd a lot of people, that’s why <\/p>\n

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\nthey don’t want to believe,
\nbecause if they believe, they <\/p>\n

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\nhave to do something about it.
\nAnd I think it is interesting <\/p>\n

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\nthat he said that those who say
\nthere is no God of fools, and by<\/p>\n

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\nand large most scientists are
\nnot fools. <\/p>\n

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\nThey, they try very hard to seek
\ntruth. <\/p>\n

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\nThey, they have all the same
\nfoibles and mistakes and evils <\/p>\n

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\nand immoralities, everybody else
\nin the community. <\/p>\n

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\nBut with respect to seeking
\nevidence, they’re pretty careful<\/p>\n

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\nabout it.
\nAnd if, if the, if the evidence <\/p>\n

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\nwere zero, I can assure you most
\nof my colleagues would not, <\/p>\n

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\nwould not profess to believe in
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nI have gotten over my lifetime
\nvery little Flack from <\/p>\n

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\ncolleagues in physics in in
\nterms of of my beliefs, but I <\/p>\n

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\nusually get it from the liberal
\narts people and the philosophers<\/p>\n

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\nwho say how can a scientist
\nbelieve? <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I think it’s because they
\ndon’t first hand seek out their <\/p>\n

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\nown information.
\nWe read this quote already, <\/p>\n

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\nwhich is well worth remembering
\nbecause it is the evidence of <\/p>\n

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\nnature besides the word that
\nshould lead people to God. <\/p>\n

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\nWhen we see around us the
\nmarvelous things of God’s <\/p>\n

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\ncreation, we should be impelled
\nto do something about it. <\/p>\n

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\nAnother interesting quote is
\nthis one in Numbers. <\/p>\n

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\nBecause God has created this
\nuniverse and this planet and us <\/p>\n

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\nfor a purpose.
\nHe hasn’t created it in vain. <\/p>\n

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\nHe didn’t create it just by pure
\naccident, but there is a purpose<\/p>\n

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\nbehind this creation and that
\npurpose He says is as truly as I<\/p>\n

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\nlive.
\nAnd if you took take the whole <\/p>\n

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\ncontext of Numbers, it’s it’s
\nGod who’s speaking He says as <\/p>\n

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\ntruly as I live, all the earth
\nshall be filled with the glory <\/p>\n

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\nof the Lord.
\nSo I think what it doesn’t take <\/p>\n

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\nmuch imagination to realize that
\nthat equally must hold for the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse.
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\nin vain.
\nHe’s created it for a purpose <\/p>\n

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\nand it in the ultimate purpose
\nis to fill it with his glory. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so we have a choice to
\npartake in that. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd another very interesting
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\nJeremiah chapter 31.
\nAnd I think that’s worth looking<\/p>\n

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\nat also.
\nI put it in the NIV and I’m <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to read it.
\nThat’s the new English version. <\/p>\n

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\nI mean the New International
\nversion. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m going to read it in the King
\nJames or authorized Version <\/p>\n

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\nalso.
\nSo if you turn with with me to <\/p>\n

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\nJeremiah chapter 31.
\nNow here the prophet Jeremiah <\/p>\n

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\nwas speaking in the last days of
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\nthe Babylonians were at the
\ndoorstep literally, and we’re <\/p>\n

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\ngoing to carry the nation into
\ncaptivity. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd he makes these comments
\nabout God and his relationship <\/p>\n

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\nwith Israel.
\nAnd in verse 35 he says, Thus <\/p>\n

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\nsayeth the Lord, which giveth
\nthe sun for the light by day, <\/p>\n

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\nand the ordinances of the moon
\nand of the stars for a light by <\/p>\n

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\nnight, which divided the sea.
\nWhen the ways there are roar, <\/p>\n

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\nThe Lord of hosts is his name.
\nIf those ordinances depart from <\/p>\n

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\nbefore me, sayeth the Lord, then
\nthe seed of Israel shall cease <\/p>\n

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\nfrom being a nation before me
\nforever. <\/p>\n

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\nThus sayeth the Lord, If the
\nheaven above can be measured, <\/p>\n

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\nand the foundations of the earth
\nsearched out beneath, I will <\/p>\n

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\nalso cast off all the seed of
\nIsrael for all they have done, <\/p>\n

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\nsayeth the Lord.
\nAnd so God uses the laws of the <\/p>\n

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\nuniverse.
\nHe appoints the Son to sign by <\/p>\n

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\nThe Who decrees.
\nAnd another word for this, it <\/p>\n

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\nuses the word ordinances in the
\nNIV and other versions have used<\/p>\n

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\nthe word laws.
\nWho has set the laws of the moon<\/p>\n

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\nand the stars?
\nAnd basically what Scott’s <\/p>\n

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\nsaying is I have set the laws of
\ngravitation and I have set the <\/p>\n

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\nlaws of physics.
\nAnd those laws are very firm. <\/p>\n

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\nI wrote them.
\nAnd if those laws could change, <\/p>\n

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\nthen I will change my promises.
\nSo far from not using science, <\/p>\n

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\nGod cites science as a proof of
\nthe steadfastness of His own <\/p>\n

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\nword.
\nAnd I think so. <\/p>\n

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\nI think that’s that’s quite
\nremarkable. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I don’t think it ought to be
\nignored. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd gravity is a very fixed law.
\nAnd I want to make this point <\/p>\n

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\nbecause when we talk about
\nevolution, we’re not talking <\/p>\n

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\nabout a law.
\nWe are talking about a theory. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd no one ever talks about the
\ntheory of gravity. <\/p>\n

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\nThat would be ridiculous.
\nI mean, if I throw this thing <\/p>\n

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\nup, it’s going to come down and
\nit’s going to come down here and<\/p>\n

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\neverywhere on this planet.
\nIt’s only $0.25, so I won’t <\/p>\n

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\nworry about.
\nBut that’s a law. <\/p>\n

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\nNow when it comes to evolution
\nasset theory. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd 150 years later, we’re still
\ncalling it a theory. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd yet when Newton wrote the
\nlaws of gravity, they already <\/p>\n

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\nknew from Galileo’s experiments
\nthat they worked. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd they work everywhere and
\nfind what’s remarkable is he <\/p>\n

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\nsays if you if you look at, he
\nsays they shine by night if you <\/p>\n

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\nlookout into the stars.
\nThe same laws of physics are <\/p>\n

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\nobeyed that astronomers see, no
\nmatter how far they look into <\/p>\n

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\nthe universe.
\nThe same laws of physics seem to<\/p>\n

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\nbe obeyed everywhere where
\ntelescopes have been shown. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd and that’s, that’s quite
\nremarkable. <\/p>\n

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\nWhereas a theory is something
\nthat people still are not sure <\/p>\n

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\nof.
\nAnd any critical experiments to <\/p>\n

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\nprove the theory of evolution
\nhave never ever been done. <\/p>\n

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\nI’ll talk more about that in a
\nlittle while. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I think we have to make that
\ndifferentiation when we’re <\/p>\n

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\ntalking about science.
\nThere’s two kinds of science. <\/p>\n

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\nThere’s science that’s provable
\nby theory, experiment, and <\/p>\n

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\nconfirmation.
\nAnd then there’s science, which <\/p>\n

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\nis in its formative stages,
\nwhere there’s a theory evolved, <\/p>\n

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\nbut definitive proof is lacking.
\nAnd the very fact that <\/p>\n

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\nscientists still call the theory
\nof evolution a theory is the <\/p>\n

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\nclue that definitive proof has
\nnever been made. <\/p>\n

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\nSo I, I might want to get that
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\nAnd I want you all sort of
\nremember that because you, you, <\/p>\n

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\nit gets thrown at you and often
\ngets thrown at you at, at the <\/p>\n

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\njunior levels.
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\nthrough high school and I know
\nmy oldest boy got in a <\/p>\n

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\ntremendous argument with his
\nbiology teacher. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd of course, she said, she
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\nargue with.
\nHe is the most, you know, you <\/p>\n

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\nknow, verbal type person.
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\nand she says, you know, I’m
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\nyour son.
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\nabout evolution.
\nI said, well, what was he <\/p>\n

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\ntelling you?
\nAnd she told me. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I said, oh, yeah, well,
\nthat’s pretty good. <\/p>\n

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\nI agree with him.
\nShe says, what? <\/p>\n

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\nSo he said she said.
\nShe said, I, I don’t understand <\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nYou’re a scientist. <\/p>\n

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\nHow Can you believe that?
\nThat’s the old cliche. <\/p>\n

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\nI says, you’re a teacher.
\nHow can you teach what you’re <\/p>\n

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\nteaching?
\nI said, just because the state <\/p>\n

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\nstandard curriculum.
\nI mean, when I went to high <\/p>\n

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\nschool, I had to happen to have
\na good Orthodox Jew as a <\/p>\n

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\nteacher, and the way he taught
\nbiology was here’s the theory of<\/p>\n

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\nevolution, please learn it for
\nthe state exams. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s mostly baloney now.
\nI don’t think a teacher can get <\/p>\n

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\naway with that today.
\nThey probably lose their job. <\/p>\n

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\nBut be aware that the very fact
\nthat something is called a <\/p>\n

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\ntheory means it has not been
\nproven. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I don’t know anyone who
\nwould have the audacity to say <\/p>\n

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\nthe law of Darwin so that that’s
\nimportant point to remember. <\/p>\n

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\nBut God says the laws of physics
\nare so firm that he would base <\/p>\n

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\nhis promises on it.
\nThis is in the King James, which<\/p>\n

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\nwe just read.
\nHe repeats it again in chapter <\/p>\n

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\n33, verse 7.
\nAnd you see the difference with <\/p>\n

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\nGod is not drawing upon theories
\nhere. <\/p>\n

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\nHe’s talking about the laws of
\nthe universe, the laws that <\/p>\n

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\ngovern the physical universe.
\nAnd here in chapter 33, again, <\/p>\n

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\nI’m reading this in the
\nauthorized version 33 and seven <\/p>\n

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\nJeremiah, just a page or two
\nover. <\/p>\n

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\nI will cause the captivity of
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\nIsrael to return, and we’ll
\nbuild them as the first. <\/p>\n

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\nSo God is talking about the days
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\nback to his land.
\nAnd he says that that is going <\/p>\n

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\nto happen.
\nAnd then he goes down verse 19. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd this is really critical
\nbecause we know the Jews have <\/p>\n

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\ncome back to the land.
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\nthat’s happened twice and it’s
\nhappened in 1948 and they have <\/p>\n

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\nbeen replanted as a nation.
\nAnd he says here verse 19, <\/p>\n

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\nJeremiah 33 And the word of the
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\nThus saith the Lord, if he can
\nbreak my covenant or law of the <\/p>\n

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\nday and my covenant of the
\nnight, that there should not be <\/p>\n

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\nday and night in their season,
\nthen may also my covenant be <\/p>\n

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\nbroken with David, my servant,
\nthat he should not have a son to<\/p>\n

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\nreign upon his throne.
\nAnd with the Levites, the <\/p>\n

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\npriests, my ministers, he’s
\ntalking about Jesus Christ <\/p>\n

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\nbecause that’s the seed of David
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\nAnd he’s saying, I will bring a
\nMessiah. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd it’s so firm.
\nIt’s as firm as the laws, the <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:30,440 –> 00:19:33,440
\ncovenants that I’ve made to
\ncontrol day and night, the <\/p>\n

328
\n00:19:33,440 –> 00:19:37,040
\nrevolution of the planets, the
\nmotion of the the moon around <\/p>\n

329
\n00:19:37,040 –> 00:19:39,880
\nearth, the revolution of the
\nearth around the sun and the <\/p>\n

330
\n00:19:39,880 –> 00:19:42,280
\nmotion of the planets.
\nHe says though that’s how firm <\/p>\n

331
\n00:19:42,280 –> 00:19:44,760
\nit is.
\nAnd then he says, as the host of<\/p>\n

332
\n00:19:44,760 –> 00:19:48,360
\nheaven cannot be numbered,
\nneither the sand of the sea <\/p>\n

333
\n00:19:48,360 –> 00:19:52,360
\nmeasured, so will I multiply the
\nseed of David my servant, and <\/p>\n

334
\n00:19:52,360 –> 00:19:54,280
\nthe Levites that minister unto
\nme. <\/p>\n

335
\n00:19:54,520 –> 00:19:57,880
\nNow that’s that’s quite a
\nremarkable verse, verse 22, <\/p>\n

336
\n00:19:58,680 –> 00:20:02,880
\nbecause in the year when that
\nwas written, Jeremiah wrote <\/p>\n

337
\n00:20:02,880 –> 00:20:05,600
\nabout 5 1\/2 centuries before
\nChrist. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:20:06,120 –> 00:20:09,680
\nYou could look up at the night
\nsky and you can count the number<\/p>\n

339
\n00:20:09,680 –> 00:20:12,200
\nof stars.
\nThere were about 2000 of them <\/p>\n

340
\n00:20:12,520 –> 00:20:15,520
\nand the Babylonians and the
\nChinese astronomers catalogued <\/p>\n

341
\n00:20:15,520 –> 00:20:17,200
\nthem.
\nNow, if you look up in the night<\/p>\n

342
\n00:20:17,200 –> 00:20:21,000
\nsky with your naked eye, maybe
\nin Los Angeles, you can’t see <\/p>\n

343
\n00:20:21,000 –> 00:20:23,080
\nanything but smog.
\nI’m not really sure. <\/p>\n

344
\n00:20:23,360 –> 00:20:26,200
\nBut in my backyard in Michigan,
\nthere’s there’s no smog. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:20:26,200 –> 00:20:29,000
\nIf it’s not raining, I can
\nactually see the night sky. <\/p>\n

346
\n00:20:29,840 –> 00:20:33,040
\nAnd and if you see it, you can
\nsee they’re very clearly marked.<\/p>\n

347
\n00:20:33,400 –> 00:20:37,960
\nWhat is remarkable is that as
\nmen, men have built telescopes, <\/p>\n

348
\n00:20:37,960 –> 00:20:41,760
\nthe further and further they
\nlook in space, the number of <\/p>\n

349
\n00:20:41,760 –> 00:20:45,520
\nstars, the number of galaxies,
\njust multiply and multiply and <\/p>\n

350
\n00:20:45,520 –> 00:20:47,920
\nmultiply.
\nAnd they, in fact, there are so <\/p>\n

351
\n00:20:47,920 –> 00:20:51,200
\nmany of them, there probably are
\nmore than the sand in the <\/p>\n

352
\n00:20:51,200 –> 00:20:53,880
\nseashore.
\nI if anyone’s ever heard Carl <\/p>\n

353
\n00:20:53,880 –> 00:20:55,560
\nSagan and go billions and
\nbillions. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:20:55,600 –> 00:20:58,720
\nAnd that’s just because the
\nnumber is so large you can’t <\/p>\n

355
\n00:20:58,720 –> 00:21:01,120
\nwrite it down.
\nIf I were to write down the <\/p>\n

356
\n00:21:01,120 –> 00:21:07,040
\nnumber of stars that are visible
\nso far with known telescopes and<\/p>\n

357
\n00:21:07,040 –> 00:21:10,760
\nI put A1 down and I stopped
\nputting zeros, we would be here <\/p>\n

358
\n00:21:10,760 –> 00:21:13,560
\nfor several weeks and I would
\nnot finish doing it. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:21:14,520 –> 00:21:18,280
\nThat’s how many there are.
\nOK, that’s homework. <\/p>\n

360
\n00:21:18,360 –> 00:21:20,560
\nDo this for homework.
\nGo back, put it down, try to <\/p>\n

361
\n00:21:20,560 –> 00:21:23,360
\nfind out how many there are.
\nSo when it says this, how did <\/p>\n

362
\n00:21:23,360 –> 00:21:27,360
\nthey know this 2500 years ago?
\nUnless God inspired Jeremiah to <\/p>\n

363
\n00:21:27,360 –> 00:21:30,560
\nwrite it correctly that he just
\nopened the tech the Keck <\/p>\n

364
\n00:21:30,560 –> 00:21:34,680
\ntelescope in Hawaii and on Mauna
\nKea on the mountain top there on<\/p>\n

365
\n00:21:34,680 –> 00:21:37,160
\nthe the Big Island about a year
\nand a half ago. <\/p>\n

366
\n00:21:37,360 –> 00:21:40,040
\nThey were able to look further
\ninto space than they’d ever <\/p>\n

367
\n00:21:40,040 –> 00:21:43,520
\nseen.
\nAnd still space was covered with<\/p>\n

368
\n00:21:43,520 –> 00:21:46,920
\nendless stars.
\nSo this is this perspective <\/p>\n

369
\n00:21:46,920 –> 00:21:49,960
\ncould not have been achieved by
\nJeremiah because if he looked <\/p>\n

370
\n00:21:49,960 –> 00:21:53,320
\nout at the night side, he would
\nhave been able to count them and<\/p>\n

371
\n00:21:53,320 –> 00:21:55,080
\nhe would have known they weren’t
\nas the stars. <\/p>\n

372
\n00:21:55,440 –> 00:21:58,960
\nSo this, this is this is very
\nfirm and convincing proof. <\/p>\n

373
\n00:21:59,560 –> 00:22:02,520
\nAnd God uses this to confirm his
\ncaptivity. <\/p>\n

374
\n00:22:02,800 –> 00:22:06,480
\nNow I want to show this
\nrelationship to evolution <\/p>\n

375
\n00:22:07,480 –> 00:22:20,400
\nbecause I think everyone’s seen
\nsomething like this and I think <\/p>\n

376
\n00:22:20,400 –> 00:22:23,480
\nwe’ve seen this before and I’ve
\nused this before, but this is <\/p>\n

377
\n00:22:23,480 –> 00:22:26,480
\nkind of the classical picture
\nthat evolutionists give. <\/p>\n

378
\n00:22:26,480 –> 00:22:31,760
\nFirst a small ape like creature
\nstands on 2 feet and then they <\/p>\n

379
\n00:22:31,760 –> 00:22:34,680
\nget bigger and the brain cavity
\ngets bigger and then they need <\/p>\n

380
\n00:22:34,680 –> 00:22:37,800
\nto shave and then maybe they get
\nto find a few smaller one. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:22:37,800 –> 00:22:39,800
\nThey get a little bit bigger,
\nbigger and finally they end up <\/p>\n

382
\n00:22:39,800 –> 00:22:43,560
\nlooking something like us.
\nOK, And this is the standard <\/p>\n

383
\n00:22:43,560 –> 00:22:45,880
\npicture.
\nAnd if you go to the American <\/p>\n

384
\n00:22:45,880 –> 00:22:50,400
\nNatural History Museum in
\nWashington, DC, the Smithsonian,<\/p>\n

385
\n00:22:50,600 –> 00:22:54,840
\nyou see a horse, similar thing.
\nYou’ll see a little small horse <\/p>\n

386
\n00:22:54,840 –> 00:22:56,720
\nand then the horse gets bigger
\nand gets bigger and then it can <\/p>\n

387
\n00:22:56,720 –> 00:22:58,680
\nmake it a little small and it’s
\nwhen finally it ends up being <\/p>\n

388
\n00:22:58,680 –> 00:23:03,680
\nArabian horse and so on.
\nAnd in New York, they had a <\/p>\n

389
\n00:23:03,680 –> 00:23:07,200
\nsimilar exhibit on the horse at
\nthe Museum of Natural History in<\/p>\n

390
\n00:23:07,200 –> 00:23:09,680
\nCentral Park.
\nBut a number of scientists, <\/p>\n

391
\n00:23:09,680 –> 00:23:12,640
\nmyself included, protested to
\nthem some years back. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:23:12,640 –> 00:23:17,560
\nBut this was a a phony exhibit.
\nAnd in fact, it was because the <\/p>\n

393
\n00:23:17,560 –> 00:23:22,000
\nfossils that made-up the
\nsequence were not dateable <\/p>\n

394
\n00:23:22,000 –> 00:23:26,160
\nchronologically.
\nAnd so you could find a bunch of<\/p>\n

395
\n00:23:26,160 –> 00:23:30,480
\ndifferent forms of different
\nsides and brain cavity and say, <\/p>\n

396
\n00:23:30,480 –> 00:23:32,480
\noh, they must have progressively
\nget bigger. <\/p>\n

397
\n00:23:33,200 –> 00:23:35,200
\nBut just think about it a
\nminute. <\/p>\n

398
\n00:23:35,200 –> 00:23:36,800
\nYou could do the same thing for
\nthe dog. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:23:37,120 –> 00:23:40,560
\nI could take a Chihuahua and
\nsay, OK, here’s a Chihuahua and <\/p>\n

400
\n00:23:40,560 –> 00:23:43,080
\nthen a Cocker spaniel and this
\none and I get a Saint Bernard. <\/p>\n

401
\n00:23:43,080 –> 00:23:46,600
\nLook, see how dogs are getting
\nbigger and bigger and bigger and<\/p>\n

402
\n00:23:46,600 –> 00:23:49,240
\nit boils down to that.
\nSome of the scientific evidence,<\/p>\n

403
\n00:23:49,240 –> 00:23:51,160
\nI’m not saying well, but some of
\nthe scientific evidence which <\/p>\n

404
\n00:23:51,160 –> 00:23:54,720
\nhas been cited over and over
\nagain are at that level of <\/p>\n

405
\n00:23:54,720 –> 00:23:57,040
\nfudging it.
\nThe British Museum in England <\/p>\n

406
\n00:23:57,040 –> 00:24:01,440
\nhas had actually had a scandal
\nrecently because they found out <\/p>\n

407
\n00:24:01,440 –> 00:24:06,920
\nthat bones dated earlier had
\nbeen moved around so that they <\/p>\n

408
\n00:24:06,920 –> 00:24:10,320
\nfit into the sequence that met
\ntheir preconceived notion. <\/p>\n

409
\n00:24:11,120 –> 00:24:14,480
\nSo this is this kind of picture
\nwhich you see all the time. <\/p>\n

410
\n00:24:14,920 –> 00:24:16,600
\nPlease don’t accept this as
\nproof. <\/p>\n

411
\n00:24:16,640 –> 00:24:20,000
\nThis is a model.
\nThis is the way they would like <\/p>\n

412
\n00:24:20,000 –> 00:24:24,200
\nit to be.
\nAs far as a continuous proof of <\/p>\n

413
\n00:24:24,200 –> 00:24:28,560
\nthis, all dated accurately.
\nThere is not a single sequence <\/p>\n

414
\n00:24:28,560 –> 00:24:32,080
\nanywhere in the world that
\nmatches this and you will not <\/p>\n

415
\n00:24:32,080 –> 00:24:34,920
\nsee it.
\nAnd I want to show, I’ll show <\/p>\n

416
\n00:24:34,920 –> 00:24:36,440
\nyou more on this in a few
\nminutes. <\/p>\n

417
\n00:24:36,840 –> 00:24:39,400
\nThe other thing that’s quite
\ninteresting is that Homo <\/p>\n

418
\n00:24:39,400 –> 00:24:43,200
\nsapiens, which is what we are,
\nseem to appear quite suddenly <\/p>\n

419
\n00:24:44,000 –> 00:24:47,560
\nand they dated to 40,000 years
\nago. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:24:47,560 –> 00:24:50,960
\nBut I’m not, I’m not, I won’t,
\nI’m not going to push dates, but<\/p>\n

421
\n00:24:50,960 –> 00:24:54,520
\nit appears quite suddenly and
\ndon’t seem to have any direct <\/p>\n

422
\n00:24:54,520 –> 00:24:57,840
\nrelationship to previous
\nspecies. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:24:57,840 –> 00:25:01,040
\nAnd that’s kind of mysterious.
\nIn fact, one biologist wrote a <\/p>\n

424
\n00:25:01,040 –> 00:25:04,320
\nbook recently called The Mystery
\nof Modern Man because they have <\/p>\n

425
\n00:25:04,320 –> 00:25:09,360
\nnot been able to link us to
\ndirectly to previous species. <\/p>\n

426
\n00:25:09,800 –> 00:25:12,000
\nAnd so I think that’s that’s
\nkind of something to be a little<\/p>\n

427
\n00:25:12,000 –> 00:25:14,520
\nbit careful about the way this
\nis done. <\/p>\n

428
\n00:25:14,800 –> 00:25:18,600
\nAnd, and, and, and just assume
\njust because you see a model <\/p>\n

429
\n00:25:18,600 –> 00:25:21,480
\nlike this in a book, this is a
\nstandard reference book where <\/p>\n

430
\n00:25:21,480 –> 00:25:24,560
\nyou see it in an encyclopedia or
\neven in a museum that that <\/p>\n

431
\n00:25:24,560 –> 00:25:26,680
\nconstitutes proof.
\nIt doesn’t. <\/p>\n

432
\n00:25:27,120 –> 00:25:31,520
\nSecond thing is that dating
\nanything beyond a few 10s of <\/p>\n

433
\n00:25:31,520 –> 00:25:34,440
\nthousands of years by any
\nphysical method is almost <\/p>\n

434
\n00:25:34,440 –> 00:25:37,080
\nimpossible.
\nThe way these things are dated <\/p>\n

435
\n00:25:37,080 –> 00:25:41,680
\nare from the layer they’re
\nfounded in a couple of cases I <\/p>\n

436
\n00:25:41,680 –> 00:25:44,000
\nhave tried to.
\nOne of the things I do is I’m <\/p>\n

437
\n00:25:44,000 –> 00:25:47,400
\nI’m a diffractionist.
\nI do X-ray work and I tried to <\/p>\n

438
\n00:25:47,400 –> 00:25:52,760
\nget a museum to give me a sample
\nof one of these fossils to do <\/p>\n

439
\n00:25:52,760 –> 00:25:55,680
\nX-ray fluorescence.
\nNow, the one thing I can do with<\/p>\n

440
\n00:25:55,680 –> 00:26:00,360
\nthat is I can find how much
\nradioactive element there is and<\/p>\n

441
\n00:26:00,360 –> 00:26:03,000
\nhow much potassium isotope they
\nare and you can get some <\/p>\n

442
\n00:26:03,000 –> 00:26:06,760
\nestimate of how long it might
\nhave been existing. <\/p>\n

443
\n00:26:07,600 –> 00:26:10,920
\nThey wouldn’t give me a sample.
\nYou, I couldn’t prove that it <\/p>\n

444
\n00:26:10,920 –> 00:26:13,200
\nwas 4,000,000 years old, but I
\ncertainly could prove it was <\/p>\n

445
\n00:26:13,200 –> 00:26:15,880
\nolder than 4050 thousand years
\nold. <\/p>\n

446
\n00:26:16,120 –> 00:26:18,560
\nAnd the reason they wouldn’t
\ngive me a sample, oh, I I should<\/p>\n

447
\n00:26:18,560 –> 00:26:21,480
\nmention this is the, the ones
\nthat were found in East Africa <\/p>\n

448
\n00:26:21,600 –> 00:26:24,160
\nfrom the Leakeys.
\nThey will not give any of these <\/p>\n

449
\n00:26:24,160 –> 00:26:29,120
\nout for radioactive analysis or
\nother kinds of analysis because <\/p>\n

450
\n00:26:29,120 –> 00:26:32,120
\nI think they have a copyright on
\nit and they write books about <\/p>\n

451
\n00:26:32,120 –> 00:26:34,400
\nthis and they make money.
\nAll right, fine. <\/p>\n

452
\n00:26:34,760 –> 00:26:38,400
\nBut don’t go around making
\nextreme claims either if you’re <\/p>\n

453
\n00:26:38,400 –> 00:26:41,280
\nnot willing to openly let other
\nscientists look at what you’re <\/p>\n

454
\n00:26:41,280 –> 00:26:43,400
\ndoing.
\nI couldn’t get away with that on<\/p>\n

455
\n00:26:43,400 –> 00:26:45,680
\nmy job.
\nBut this is the level. <\/p>\n

456
\n00:26:45,720 –> 00:26:48,720
\nImagine Newton saying, OK, I got
\nthe laws of physics, here’s what<\/p>\n

457
\n00:26:48,720 –> 00:26:50,880
\nthey are, but I don’t want
\nanyone else to run a test on <\/p>\n

458
\n00:26:50,880 –> 00:26:52,720
\nthem.
\nPlease don’t send the rocket up <\/p>\n

459
\n00:26:52,720 –> 00:26:54,960
\nor flip a coin.
\nCan you imagine some other <\/p>\n

460
\n00:26:54,960 –> 00:26:56,840
\nscientists trying to do science
\nthat way? <\/p>\n

461
\n00:26:57,200 –> 00:27:01,480
\nI can’t.
\nThe same objective standards of <\/p>\n

462
\n00:27:01,480 –> 00:27:05,280
\nevidence are not always held
\nwhen it comes to biology, and <\/p>\n

463
\n00:27:05,280 –> 00:27:07,880
\nI’m not sure why.
\nMaybe it’s because they don’t <\/p>\n

464
\n00:27:07,880 –> 00:27:13,480
\nhave any other way of doing it.
\nBut my most fun at dealing with <\/p>\n

465
\n00:27:13,480 –> 00:27:16,880
\nbiology is to read what
\nbiologists are writing. <\/p>\n

466
\n00:27:19,200 –> 00:27:21,680
\nAnyone here ever hear of Stephen
\nJ Ghoul? <\/p>\n

467
\n00:27:22,480 –> 00:27:25,120
\nOK.
\nStephen J Ghoul is professor of <\/p>\n

468
\n00:27:25,320 –> 00:27:27,920
\nevolutionary biology at Harvard
\nUniversity. <\/p>\n

469
\n00:27:28,280 –> 00:27:31,160
\nAnd as we like to say in
\nMichigan, Harvard is the <\/p>\n

470
\n00:27:31,160 –> 00:27:37,720
\nMichigan of the East, OK?
\nIn fact, you can buy AT shirt in<\/p>\n

471
\n00:27:37,720 –> 00:27:40,880
\nour bookstore that says that
\nHarvard, the Michigan of the <\/p>\n

472
\n00:27:40,880 –> 00:27:42,720
\nEast.
\nActually, I think Michigan’s a <\/p>\n

473
\n00:27:42,720 –> 00:27:44,160
\nbetter university.
\nWe could beat them. <\/p>\n

474
\n00:27:44,160 –> 00:27:46,440
\nAnd that’s one school I know we
\ncan beat in football. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:27:47,040 –> 00:27:52,120
\nAnyway, Ghoul is very well
\nknown. <\/p>\n

476
\n00:27:52,120 –> 00:27:55,360
\nHe’s written a lot of books and
\nhe’s a, he’s probably the <\/p>\n

477
\n00:27:55,360 –> 00:27:59,120
\nleading current generation
\nbiologist. <\/p>\n

478
\n00:27:59,760 –> 00:28:05,040
\nNow, when Darwin wrote his
\nOrigin of Species, there were <\/p>\n

479
\n00:28:05,040 –> 00:28:08,040
\nonly a limited number of fossils
\naround. <\/p>\n

480
\n00:28:08,320 –> 00:28:11,240
\nAnd at that time, no one had
\never proved that one species <\/p>\n

481
\n00:28:11,240 –> 00:28:14,000
\ncame from another.
\nYou know, the classical one <\/p>\n

482
\n00:28:14,000 –> 00:28:17,000
\nwhere the, the, the, the fish is
\nin the sea. <\/p>\n

483
\n00:28:17,000 –> 00:28:18,920
\nAnd then finally the fish gets
\nsomething looks like little <\/p>\n

484
\n00:28:18,920 –> 00:28:21,160
\nlegs, and then the fish walks on
\nland and then he gets beat. <\/p>\n

485
\n00:28:21,320 –> 00:28:23,720
\nThat’s sort of the standard kind
\nis it’s so standard that <\/p>\n

486
\n00:28:23,720 –> 00:28:25,960
\ncartoonists often use it as a
\njoke. <\/p>\n

487
\n00:28:26,360 –> 00:28:29,360
\nAll right, you know that there
\nis no such fossil ever been <\/p>\n

488
\n00:28:29,360 –> 00:28:32,480
\nfound of what I call an
\nintermediate between two <\/p>\n

489
\n00:28:32,480 –> 00:28:35,200
\nspecies.
\nNow that’s not to say evolution <\/p>\n

490
\n00:28:35,200 –> 00:28:40,480
\ndoesn’t occur on short term.
\nIn fact, maybe the word <\/p>\n

491
\n00:28:40,480 –> 00:28:42,120
\nevolution shouldn’t be used
\nthere. <\/p>\n

492
\n00:28:42,120 –> 00:28:44,440
\nMaybe the word adaptability can
\nbe used. <\/p>\n

493
\n00:28:44,720 –> 00:28:48,160
\nFor example, it’s been shown
\nthat among butterflies and among<\/p>\n

494
\n00:28:48,160 –> 00:28:53,280
\nmoths that certain colorings
\nfavour survival and famous. 1 is<\/p>\n

495
\n00:28:53,280 –> 00:28:57,960
\nwhere a white moth was attracted
\nto industrial town in England in<\/p>\n

496
\n00:28:57,960 –> 00:29:00,840
\nthe 19th century.
\nAnd as that town used more and <\/p>\n

497
\n00:29:00,840 –> 00:29:04,560
\nmore coal and got grayer and
\nsodier and sodier, the white <\/p>\n

498
\n00:29:04,560 –> 00:29:09,480
\nmoths were easy prey and the
\ndarker grayer species of moth <\/p>\n

499
\n00:29:09,520 –> 00:29:13,120
\nwould survive being eaten by
\nbirds and other other things <\/p>\n

500
\n00:29:13,120 –> 00:29:16,600
\nthat were their enemies.
\nAnd so by and by white moths <\/p>\n

501
\n00:29:16,600 –> 00:29:20,160
\nstarted fading away and you
\nended up with mostly the dark <\/p>\n

502
\n00:29:20,160 –> 00:29:22,480
\nmoths.
\nBut that’s not evolution, that’s<\/p>\n

503
\n00:29:22,480 –> 00:29:25,880
\nadaptability.
\nEvolution would be if the moth <\/p>\n

504
\n00:29:25,880 –> 00:29:28,760
\nbecomes a Pussycat, that’s
\nevolution. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:29:28,840 –> 00:29:33,840
\nThat’s an origin of species.
\nOK, now this has never been <\/p>\n

506
\n00:29:33,840 –> 00:29:38,640
\nproved in the Darwinian sense.
\nDarwin’s own answer to this was <\/p>\n

507
\n00:29:39,600 –> 00:29:42,880
\nwe got to keep looking.
\nWe don’t have enough fossils. <\/p>\n

508
\n00:29:43,680 –> 00:29:48,040
\nWell, 150 years later there are
\n10s of thousands more fossils <\/p>\n

509
\n00:29:48,520 –> 00:29:52,800
\nand yet no one has ever found an
\nintermediary between two <\/p>\n

510
\n00:29:52,800 –> 00:29:56,760
\ndifferent species, part fish,
\npart man, you know, part part <\/p>\n

511
\n00:29:56,760 –> 00:29:59,880
\nmammal, part amphibian,
\nwhatever. <\/p>\n

512
\n00:30:00,200 –> 00:30:03,120
\nNever ever been found.
\nInteresting. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:30:03,600 –> 00:30:08,200
\nI want you to look at a verse in
\nthe New Testament, First <\/p>\n

514
\n00:30:08,200 –> 00:30:13,920
\nCorinthians 15 and I don’t think
\nyou will ever find one and they <\/p>\n

515
\n00:30:13,920 –> 00:30:17,080
\nare look, believe me, they are
\nlooking and looking and looking <\/p>\n

516
\n00:30:17,080 –> 00:30:22,240
\nand looking and looking.
\nBut first Corinthians 15 and I <\/p>\n

517
\n00:30:22,240 –> 00:30:32,240
\nlike you to look at this this
\nverse verse 38 and for <\/p>\n

518
\n00:30:32,240 –> 00:30:34,800
\nconnection 39 is the verse I
\nwant to focus on. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:30:35,000 –> 00:30:37,920
\nBut God give it to the body as
\nit it pleased them into every <\/p>\n

520
\n00:30:37,920 –> 00:30:41,200
\nseed.
\nHis own body, all flesh, is not <\/p>\n

521
\n00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:46,440
\nthe same flesh, but there is one
\nkind of flesh of men, another <\/p>\n

522
\n00:30:46,440 –> 00:30:51,480
\nflesh of beasts, another of
\nfishes, and another of birds. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:30:51,840 –> 00:30:56,680
\nAnd he shows clearly the
\ndifferent types of species and <\/p>\n

524
\n00:30:56,680 –> 00:30:58,240
\nsays they’re separate, they’re
\ndifferent. <\/p>\n

525
\n00:31:01,440 –> 00:31:04,760
\nThe evolutionary biologist says
\nwe’ve all come from 1:00. <\/p>\n

526
\n00:31:06,680 –> 00:31:09,600
\nIt’s just never, it’s just not
\ntrue there. <\/p>\n

527
\n00:31:09,760 –> 00:31:13,360
\nIf it is true, the evidence is
\ntotally lacking. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:31:14,480 –> 00:31:16,400
\nAnd I think we we ought to bear
\nthat in mind. <\/p>\n

529
\n00:31:16,400 –> 00:31:18,000
\nAnd I think that’s, that’s an
\nimportant point. <\/p>\n

530
\n00:31:18,160 –> 00:31:22,320
\nThe evidence for intermediate
\nspecies between two different <\/p>\n

531
\n00:31:22,320 –> 00:31:26,760
\nbranches just does not exist.
\nEvolution within a species we <\/p>\n

532
\n00:31:26,760 –> 00:31:31,040
\nsee all the time, OK, the
\nadaptability of the moth is, is <\/p>\n

533
\n00:31:31,040 –> 00:31:35,040
\nclear that happens.
\nAnd survival of the fittest <\/p>\n

534
\n00:31:35,040 –> 00:31:37,080
\nwithin a species group that
\nhappens. <\/p>\n

535
\n00:31:37,600 –> 00:31:39,640
\nBut that’s not the same as
\ncreation. <\/p>\n

536
\n00:31:40,360 –> 00:31:42,440
\nAnd I don’t think very dangerous
\nthing. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:31:42,440 –> 00:31:45,880
\nI always tell my students, if
\nyou’ve got the several data <\/p>\n

538
\n00:31:45,880 –> 00:31:49,400
\npoints, you know, don’t
\nextrapolate your data beyond <\/p>\n

539
\n00:31:49,560 –> 00:31:51,480
\nwhere you’ve actually got
\ninformation. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:31:51,880 –> 00:31:54,600
\nWhat biologists do is they have
\na data point here, they have a <\/p>\n

541
\n00:31:54,600 –> 00:31:57,480
\ndata point here and they
\nextrapolate it back 5 billion <\/p>\n

542
\n00:31:57,480 –> 00:31:59,880
\nyears.
\nThat’s not that’s not kosher as <\/p>\n

543
\n00:31:59,880 –> 00:32:03,280
\nwe say, OK.
\nI mean, if you have data here <\/p>\n

544
\n00:32:03,280 –> 00:32:05,840
\nand here, you’re only entitled
\nto know what happened between <\/p>\n

545
\n00:32:05,840 –> 00:32:09,640
\nthem unless you have some very,
\nvery powerful other evidence. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:32:10,240 –> 00:32:13,040
\nI want to show you something I
\nmentioned Stephen Jay Gould. <\/p>\n

547
\n00:32:13,960 –> 00:32:18,960
\nWhat is the mechanism for
\ncreation if it is not God and it<\/p>\n

548
\n00:32:18,960 –> 00:32:24,280
\nis not the Darwinian mechanism
\nof natural selection? <\/p>\n

549
\n00:32:25,280 –> 00:32:28,680
\nOK, what is the mechanism?
\nWell, Gould and looking at <\/p>\n

550
\n00:32:29,360 –> 00:32:32,760
\nthousands of fossils has come to
\nthe conclusion that slow <\/p>\n

551
\n00:32:32,760 –> 00:32:35,240
\nevolution has never been
\nevidenced. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:32:36,440 –> 00:32:38,080
\nAnd I’m going to read you from
\nhis own book. <\/p>\n

553
\n00:32:38,320 –> 00:32:43,520
\nThis is this is Book of Life
\nedited by Stephen Ghoul. <\/p>\n

554
\n00:32:43,960 –> 00:32:46,160
\nAnd you can buy this.
\nIt’s a it’s a relatively recent <\/p>\n

555
\n00:32:46,160 –> 00:32:50,320
\nbook, 1995.
\nHe’s talking about the explosion<\/p>\n

556
\n00:32:50,320 –> 00:32:52,280
\nof fossils in the Cambrian
\nperiod. <\/p>\n

557
\n00:32:52,280 –> 00:32:54,880
\nAnd let’s not worry about what
\nthe Cambrian period is, but let <\/p>\n

558
\n00:32:54,880 –> 00:32:57,720
\nlet’s read what he cites as how
\nthis all came about. <\/p>\n

559
\n00:32:58,080 –> 00:33:01,800
\nThe Cambrian has always been a
\nmystery, a highway starting in a<\/p>\n

560
\n00:33:01,800 –> 00:33:04,000
\ndesert.
\nIn other words, before the <\/p>\n

561
\n00:33:04,000 –> 00:33:07,800
\nCambrian, there seemed to be no
\nlife forms at all. <\/p>\n

562
\n00:33:07,800 –> 00:33:09,720
\nAnd then all of a sudden they
\nexplode. <\/p>\n

563
\n00:33:10,640 –> 00:33:14,440
\nNow we have pathways converging
\nto feed it, and it turns out to <\/p>\n

564
\n00:33:14,440 –> 00:33:21,000
\nbe a broader Rd. than we knew.
\nYet it is no gradual story at <\/p>\n

565
\n00:33:21,000 –> 00:33:25,960
\nthat, no gradual story that
\ndiscoveries revealed, but a <\/p>\n

566
\n00:33:25,960 –> 00:33:30,680
\nrevolutionary episode crammed
\nwith new animals, some big, some<\/p>\n

567
\n00:33:30,680 –> 00:33:32,800
\nsmall, some with skeletons, some
\nwithout. <\/p>\n

568
\n00:33:33,280 –> 00:33:36,200
\nCan we account for the sudden
\nappearance of so many <\/p>\n

569
\n00:33:36,200 –> 00:33:40,320
\nfundamentally different kinds of
\nanimals, the basic phyla? <\/p>\n

570
\n00:33:40,920 –> 00:33:44,160
\nAnd why did the variety of
\nanimals within each file a <\/p>\n

571
\n00:33:44,160 –> 00:33:48,000
\nrocket so steeply upward?
\nScientists would like to know. <\/p>\n

572
\n00:33:48,000 –> 00:33:52,200
\nAnd then excites the model that
\nis being proposed. <\/p>\n

573
\n00:33:52,200 –> 00:33:56,680
\nWhat happens when animals flood
\ninto empty ecological space is a<\/p>\n

574
\n00:33:56,680 –> 00:33:59,120
\nsequence well known in life’s
\nhistory. <\/p>\n

575
\n00:33:59,680 –> 00:34:04,080
\nNot only individuals, but all
\nspecies begin to climb at a <\/p>\n

576
\n00:34:04,080 –> 00:34:10,639
\ngeometric rate. 124816X7.
\nGet at Vermigi puts it new <\/p>\n

577
\n00:34:10,639 –> 00:34:16,800
\nspecies are basically accidents
\nthat happen as populations of <\/p>\n

578
\n00:34:16,800 –> 00:34:20,040
\nindividuals adapt to local
\nenvironment. <\/p>\n

579
\n00:34:21,520 –> 00:34:26,199
\nThis is the new model.
\nOK, Darwin was gradual change, <\/p>\n

580
\n00:34:26,360 –> 00:34:28,280
\nhe says.
\nThere is no gradual change. <\/p>\n

581
\n00:34:28,400 –> 00:34:32,880
\nThe new model is accidents.
\nSo all life got here by accident<\/p>\n

582
\n00:34:33,280 –> 00:34:35,320
\nand all new species covered by
\naccident. <\/p>\n

583
\n00:34:35,840 –> 00:34:39,600
\nNow, if that’s a model, you
\nknow, if, if I, if I were <\/p>\n

584
\n00:34:39,600 –> 00:34:42,520
\nworking in a profession that put
\nthat forward as a model, I’d <\/p>\n

585
\n00:34:42,520 –> 00:34:44,360
\nchange my profession.
\nI’ll tell you the truth. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:34:45,120 –> 00:34:47,520
\nI mean, I couldn’t, I couldn’t
\nimagine doing that with anything<\/p>\n

587
\n00:34:47,520 –> 00:34:51,400
\nin physics or engineering.
\nI mean, if any of you are <\/p>\n

588
\n00:34:51,400 –> 00:34:54,280
\nworking engineer as a physicist,
\nCan you imagine going into your <\/p>\n

589
\n00:34:54,280 –> 00:34:56,679
\nboss and say, well, I can
\nexplain it all, It’s an <\/p>\n

590
\n00:34:56,679 –> 00:35:00,120
\naccident.
\nI mean, you wouldn’t last long. <\/p>\n

591
\n00:35:01,440 –> 00:35:04,280
\nWhy is that?
\nWhy this why this is the by the <\/p>\n

592
\n00:35:04,280 –> 00:35:07,920
\nway, this is the leading
\nevolutionary biologist. <\/p>\n

593
\n00:35:08,520 –> 00:35:10,160
\nImagine what the lesser people
\nare saying. <\/p>\n

594
\n00:35:11,000 –> 00:35:13,360
\nNow when I point this out to my
\ncolleagues, you know what <\/p>\n

595
\n00:35:13,360 –> 00:35:15,640
\nreaction I get among the
\nphysicists? <\/p>\n

596
\n00:35:15,640 –> 00:35:17,920
\nThey go, those guys are terrible
\nscientists anyway. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:35:17,920 –> 00:35:20,920
\nWhat do you expect?
\nWhen I talk to the biologist, <\/p>\n

598
\n00:35:20,920 –> 00:35:22,880
\nthey go, well, we don’t have any
\nother model. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:35:26,960 –> 00:35:29,200
\nThis is on this book.
\nIt’s 1993. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:35:29,200 –> 00:35:31,960
\nThe edition I have, it’s pages
\n56 and 57. <\/p>\n

601
\n00:35:31,960 –> 00:35:35,800
\nIt’s in the library.
\nOK, so somebody tells you that <\/p>\n

602
\n00:35:35,800 –> 00:35:38,880
\nthey got a model for evolution,
\nsay the model is accident. <\/p>\n

603
\n00:35:39,520 –> 00:35:41,240
\nIt’s not Darwin, it’s not
\noriginal. <\/p>\n

604
\n00:35:41,240 –> 00:35:44,400
\nThis is what they’re selling.
\nLet me show you some other <\/p>\n

605
\n00:35:44,400 –> 00:35:52,600
\nthings.
\nThis is by another biologist who<\/p>\n

606
\n00:35:53,200 –> 00:35:55,760
\nin this book is called The Great
\nEvolution Mystery. <\/p>\n

607
\n00:35:59,520 –> 00:36:04,680
\nHe’s got a whole list of things
\nthat are problems why evolution <\/p>\n

608
\n00:36:04,680 –> 00:36:10,000
\ndoesn’t seem to work, and he’s
\ngot this whole list of different<\/p>\n

609
\n00:36:11,080 –> 00:36:13,240
\nproblems.
\nAnd here it is, the suddenness <\/p>\n

610
\n00:36:13,240 –> 00:36:17,200
\nwith which major changes in
\npattern occurred and virtual <\/p>\n

611
\n00:36:17,200 –> 00:36:20,480
\nabsence of any fossil remains
\nfrom the period in which they <\/p>\n

612
\n00:36:20,480 –> 00:36:23,760
\nwere alleged to be evolving.
\nAnd let me explain what that <\/p>\n

613
\n00:36:23,760 –> 00:36:28,160
\nmeans.
\nSuppose that you need an eye to <\/p>\n

614
\n00:36:28,160 –> 00:36:32,920
\nsee, and you have to develop
\nthis Organism, this eye, in <\/p>\n

615
\n00:36:32,920 –> 00:36:35,960
\norder to focus.
\nNow, Can you imagine taking 50 <\/p>\n

616
\n00:36:35,960 –> 00:36:39,560
\nmillion years to develop the eye
\nthat was that was actually <\/p>\n

617
\n00:36:40,120 –> 00:36:43,400
\nbrought up by Darwin and he we,
\nwe brought it up. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:36:43,400 –> 00:36:47,640
\nHe said, if very complex organs,
\nif we can’t really explain this,<\/p>\n

619
\n00:36:47,640 –> 00:36:49,320
\nthis is a problem with my
\ntheory. <\/p>\n

620
\n00:36:49,520 –> 00:36:53,320
\nNow people forgot about that and
\npeople like Richard Dawkins and <\/p>\n

621
\n00:36:53,320 –> 00:36:55,880
\nothers have written about it and
\nthey’ve looked at this species. <\/p>\n

622
\n00:36:55,880 –> 00:36:57,640
\nSo here’s a hair formed eye in
\nthis one. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:36:57,640 –> 00:37:00,160
\nHere’s Part 1 in this one.
\nAnd we can, we can show that <\/p>\n

624
\n00:37:00,160 –> 00:37:02,080
\nthere’s all different stages of
\neye development. <\/p>\n

625
\n00:37:02,440 –> 00:37:05,920
\nThat doesn’t prove evolution.
\nThat only proves that also from <\/p>\n

626
\n00:37:05,920 –> 00:37:09,320
\nmy mind, that proves the
\ndesigner had different designs <\/p>\n

627
\n00:37:09,320 –> 00:37:13,600
\nin mind.
\nNow what this biologist looked <\/p>\n

628
\n00:37:13,600 –> 00:37:19,160
\nat this, He says what happens
\nthe very first time we find a <\/p>\n

629
\n00:37:19,160 –> 00:37:21,240
\nspecie that has to see with an
\neye? <\/p>\n

630
\n00:37:21,240 –> 00:37:23,640
\nIt’s got a completely formed
\neyeball. <\/p>\n

631
\n00:37:23,760 –> 00:37:27,800
\nIn fact, even more remarkable,
\nno one has ever found a species <\/p>\n

632
\n00:37:27,800 –> 00:37:32,800
\nwith one eye.
\nOK, think about that. <\/p>\n

633
\n00:37:33,000 –> 00:37:35,840
\nIf you evolve and you evolve and
\nit’s kind of random and it’s all<\/p>\n

634
\n00:37:35,840 –> 00:37:37,800
\naccident, suppose it’s his
\nmodel. <\/p>\n

635
\n00:37:38,200 –> 00:37:40,800
\nWhy don’t we have somebody with
\none eyeball in the middle? <\/p>\n

636
\n00:37:40,800 –> 00:37:45,320
\nExcept on science fiction TV,
\nthe very first mammals that are <\/p>\n

637
\n00:37:45,320 –> 00:37:47,880
\ndeveloped, the very first fish,
\nthe very first things that have <\/p>\n

638
\n00:37:47,880 –> 00:37:52,160
\neyes at all have not only good
\neyes, different levels of <\/p>\n

639
\n00:37:52,160 –> 00:37:56,080
\nsophistication, obviously, but
\nthey all see, and they see in <\/p>\n

640
\n00:37:56,080 –> 00:37:59,520
\nthree dimensions.
\nAnd if that were not true, no <\/p>\n

641
\n00:37:59,520 –> 00:38:02,240
\none would ever be able to catch
\ntheir prey, right? <\/p>\n

642
\n00:38:02,800 –> 00:38:05,400
\nNo one in Southern California
\nwould be able to drive. <\/p>\n

643
\n00:38:05,840 –> 00:38:08,160
\nI mean, that’s really serious
\nright? <\/p>\n

644
\n00:38:09,400 –> 00:38:12,120
\nNow, What accounts for that?
\nHow can you account for that by <\/p>\n

645
\n00:38:12,120 –> 00:38:15,000
\naccident, that the minute the
\neye is there, it works. <\/p>\n

646
\n00:38:15,000 –> 00:38:16,800
\nIt functions at season 3
\ndimension. <\/p>\n

647
\n00:38:17,960 –> 00:38:21,040
\nIt has a lens and it can focus
\nthat lens and it can see over a <\/p>\n

648
\n00:38:21,040 –> 00:38:24,480
\nwide range of optical
\ndifferences. <\/p>\n

649
\n00:38:25,800 –> 00:38:27,840
\nNow, did that all happen
\novernight? <\/p>\n

650
\n00:38:27,840 –> 00:38:32,280
\nAccording to Darwin, it it
\nshould have taken millions of <\/p>\n

651
\n00:38:32,280 –> 00:38:34,600
\nyears to occur.
\nBut what did you do in between <\/p>\n

652
\n00:38:34,600 –> 00:38:37,160
\nwhen you couldn’t see or you
\ncouldn’t see perfectly? <\/p>\n

653
\n00:38:37,160 –> 00:38:40,040
\nHow would you have survived?
\nAnd, and you pretty soon you <\/p>\n

654
\n00:38:40,040 –> 00:38:42,800
\ncome to the realization that
\nthis is something that really <\/p>\n

655
\n00:38:42,800 –> 00:38:45,960
\nought to bother biologists, not
\njust this one guy who wrote this<\/p>\n

656
\n00:38:45,960 –> 00:38:49,440
\nbook, because even going back to
\nDarwin, he pointed out that <\/p>\n

657
\n00:38:49,440 –> 00:38:52,800
\ncomplexity was a problem.
\nWhat’s a big problem? <\/p>\n

658
\n00:38:53,560 –> 00:38:59,080
\nBecause 1\/2 formed eyeball is
\nuseless and there is no such <\/p>\n

659
\n00:38:59,080 –> 00:39:01,560
\nevidence of half formed
\neyeballs. <\/p>\n

660
\n00:39:02,400 –> 00:39:04,800
\nOK, let’s take a look at another
\nthing. <\/p>\n

661
\n00:39:06,560 –> 00:39:09,440
\nSuddenness of new forms
\nradiating into numerous <\/p>\n

662
\n00:39:09,520 –> 00:39:11,760
\nvariants.
\nAnd that’s the other thing. <\/p>\n

663
\n00:39:12,000 –> 00:39:14,680
\nOnce an accident occurs, it
\nseems to explode. <\/p>\n

664
\n00:39:16,520 –> 00:39:19,320
\nYou get all kinds of different
\nvariations in it right away, and<\/p>\n

665
\n00:39:19,320 –> 00:39:22,600
\nthey all seem to adapt.
\nNow, I think that’s very <\/p>\n

666
\n00:39:22,600 –> 00:39:26,360
\nimportant because if this were
\nnot true, if you had this <\/p>\n

667
\n00:39:26,360 –> 00:39:30,800
\nsuddenness, were not true, you
\nwould find that something <\/p>\n

668
\n00:39:30,800 –> 00:39:34,120
\nevolved and then it couldn’t
\nsurvive and it would just decay <\/p>\n

669
\n00:39:34,120 –> 00:39:37,480
\nand would never flourish.
\nBut it seems once something new <\/p>\n

670
\n00:39:37,520 –> 00:39:41,600
\nis, is evidenced it, it
\nimmediately seems to survive and<\/p>\n

671
\n00:39:41,600 –> 00:39:44,240
\ngrow.
\nAnd that’s kind of remarkable <\/p>\n

672
\n00:39:45,440 –> 00:39:48,440
\nsuddenness of extinctions.
\nWell, we don’t have to dwell on <\/p>\n

673
\n00:39:48,440 –> 00:39:52,800
\nall of these in in detail, but
\nwhen things disappear, they <\/p>\n

674
\n00:39:52,800 –> 00:39:55,560
\ncompletely disappear.
\nThey don’t seem to phase out <\/p>\n

675
\n00:39:55,960 –> 00:39:59,840
\nover millions of years either,
\nand that’s always been a <\/p>\n

676
\n00:39:59,840 –> 00:40:03,000
\ntroubling thing.
\nRepeated occurrences of changes <\/p>\n

677
\n00:40:03,000 –> 00:40:05,600
\ncalling for new or less
\ncoordinated innovations. <\/p>\n

678
\n00:40:06,040 –> 00:40:08,360
\nThat’s probably what I said
\nabout the eye, but it’s about a <\/p>\n

679
\n00:40:08,360 –> 00:40:11,600
\nlot of other things.
\nCan you imagine evolving a heart<\/p>\n

680
\n00:40:12,400 –> 00:40:16,440
\nthat only beats once in a while?
\nOr lung power that isn’t <\/p>\n

681
\n00:40:16,440 –> 00:40:19,760
\nsufficient.
\nTo take care of the air capacity<\/p>\n

682
\n00:40:19,880 –> 00:40:23,760
\nor any other organ that you need
\nthe liver or the kidney to <\/p>\n

683
\n00:40:23,760 –> 00:40:27,520
\nfilter with your kidneys, what
\nif they didn’t work perfectly? <\/p>\n

684
\n00:40:28,680 –> 00:40:31,920
\nI mean, this idea of a
\ncoordinated innovation, Do you <\/p>\n

685
\n00:40:31,920 –> 00:40:36,640
\nknow how many different, how
\nmany different changes you need <\/p>\n

686
\n00:40:36,800 –> 00:40:43,080
\nto make?
\nThe eye function, It’s about 10 <\/p>\n

687
\n00:40:43,640 –> 00:40:50,280
\nbillion different changes.
\nYou need to have the lens work <\/p>\n

688
\n00:40:50,400 –> 00:40:53,720
\nsystem work perfectly.
\nYou need to have the recording <\/p>\n

689
\n00:40:53,720 –> 00:40:58,000
\nsystem with all those little
\nends that sense the light. <\/p>\n

690
\n00:40:58,560 –> 00:41:02,000
\nYou need color coordination.
\nYou need to store the images. <\/p>\n

691
\n00:41:02,800 –> 00:41:04,680
\nThink of how wonderful the brain
\nis. <\/p>\n

692
\n00:41:05,200 –> 00:41:09,240
\nYou not only have the eye not
\nonly takes in the data, it keeps<\/p>\n

693
\n00:41:09,240 –> 00:41:12,320
\nsending pictures to your brain.
\nMany of us can remember an image<\/p>\n

694
\n00:41:12,320 –> 00:41:17,760
\nwe saw years ago, right that.
\nSo that information is all there<\/p>\n

695
\n00:41:17,760 –> 00:41:20,160
\nand it had to be there.
\nYou think about an animal who <\/p>\n

696
\n00:41:20,160 –> 00:41:23,440
\nhas to see that information.
\nHe’s got to now recognize his <\/p>\n

697
\n00:41:23,440 –> 00:41:25,600
\nenemy.
\nHe’s got to recognize his prey. <\/p>\n

698
\n00:41:25,760 –> 00:41:28,760
\nAll those images need the
\nstorage capacity, so the eye <\/p>\n

699
\n00:41:28,760 –> 00:41:33,800
\ncannot work independent of a lot
\nof changes in the brain in order<\/p>\n

700
\n00:41:33,800 –> 00:41:36,960
\nto handle all that information
\nand store it and use it. <\/p>\n

701
\n00:41:38,080 –> 00:41:41,880
\nAnd all of that had to evolve
\nlike that because if the animal <\/p>\n

702
\n00:41:41,880 –> 00:41:44,720
\ndoesn’t store the information
\nabout its enemy, it doesn’t use <\/p>\n

703
\n00:41:44,720 –> 00:41:48,760
\nits eye very long, it gets
\neaten, it becomes dinner. <\/p>\n

704
\n00:41:49,840 –> 00:41:52,280
\nSo all of those things have to
\noccur at the same time. <\/p>\n

705
\n00:41:52,800 –> 00:41:54,560
\nOr let’s, let’s take another
\ncase. <\/p>\n

706
\n00:41:54,960 –> 00:41:57,080
\nCoordinated innovation goes
\nfurther than that. <\/p>\n

707
\n00:41:57,400 –> 00:42:01,520
\nIt’s coordination between two
\nvery separate things. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:42:02,880 –> 00:42:05,800
\nOK, we, we, we all know, I’ll
\ngive you a couple examples, a <\/p>\n

709
\n00:42:05,800 –> 00:42:09,200
\nsimple example.
\nYou all know about the birds and<\/p>\n

710
\n00:42:09,200 –> 00:42:12,600
\nthe bees, right?
\nDo you all know that trees and <\/p>\n

711
\n00:42:12,680 –> 00:42:15,000
\nplant things have boy and girl?
\nDid you know that? <\/p>\n

712
\n00:42:15,920 –> 00:42:18,280
\nNow I won’t ask you what’s the
\ndifference because I really am <\/p>\n

713
\n00:42:18,280 –> 00:42:21,640
\nafraid the answer I might get.
\nBut I tell you, tell you many <\/p>\n

714
\n00:42:21,640 –> 00:42:25,400
\nyears ago I had a holly Bush and
\nthat’s the thing, you know, with<\/p>\n

715
\n00:42:25,400 –> 00:42:28,720
\nthe little red berries on it.
\nAnd I when I bought this house, <\/p>\n

716
\n00:42:28,720 –> 00:42:31,960
\nthere were two holly bushes and
\nthey weren’t doing well. <\/p>\n

717
\n00:42:33,280 –> 00:42:36,080
\nSo I called my father-in-law,
\nwho was an expert in <\/p>\n

718
\n00:42:36,080 –> 00:42:39,880
\nhorticulture, and I said to him,
\nmy holly bushes look terrible. <\/p>\n

719
\n00:42:40,320 –> 00:42:43,280
\nAnd he, he says to me, well, the
\ntrouble is there’s no boy holly <\/p>\n

720
\n00:42:43,280 –> 00:42:45,120
\nbushes around.
\nAnd they’re rather depressed and<\/p>\n

721
\n00:42:45,120 –> 00:42:47,760
\nsad.
\nAnd I thought, he’s pulling my <\/p>\n

722
\n00:42:47,760 –> 00:42:50,480
\nleg.
\nA girl holly Bush and a boy <\/p>\n

723
\n00:42:50,480 –> 00:42:52,240
\nholly Bush.
\nHow do you tell the difference? <\/p>\n

724
\n00:42:53,200 –> 00:42:57,160
\nSo he came over the house and he
\nbought a horticultural book. <\/p>\n

725
\n00:42:57,160 –> 00:42:58,960
\nAnd you know, there is a
\ndifference. <\/p>\n

726
\n00:42:58,960 –> 00:43:00,640
\nAnd I’m not going to tell you
\nwhat the difference is. <\/p>\n

727
\n00:43:00,640 –> 00:43:03,080
\nYou know, you have to lift up
\nthe leaf to look. <\/p>\n

728
\n00:43:03,240 –> 00:43:07,120
\nBut the, the, the boy holly Bush
\ndoesn’t have berries. <\/p>\n

729
\n00:43:07,200 –> 00:43:11,200
\nOK, the girl one does.
\nSo he planted a couple of boy <\/p>\n

730
\n00:43:11,200 –> 00:43:15,600
\nholly bushes and within five to
\nsix weeks, the other ones, they <\/p>\n

731
\n00:43:15,600 –> 00:43:18,840
\nweren’t being cross pollinated.
\nAnd so the, the, the, the Bush <\/p>\n

732
\n00:43:18,840 –> 00:43:22,160
\nwas really not getting all its
\nenergies up and it wasn’t, <\/p>\n

733
\n00:43:22,240 –> 00:43:26,400
\nwasn’t functioning correctly.
\nHow did this happen? <\/p>\n

734
\n00:43:26,880 –> 00:43:29,200
\nCan you imagine?
\nLet’s evolve a girl holly Bush <\/p>\n

735
\n00:43:29,200 –> 00:43:31,520
\nand OK, a million years later
\nwe’ll have the boy holly Bush. <\/p>\n

736
\n00:43:32,200 –> 00:43:34,200
\nThose all had to happen at the
\nsame time. <\/p>\n

737
\n00:43:35,040 –> 00:43:38,920
\nBut let’s go a little further.
\nYou have flowers, you have all <\/p>\n

738
\n00:43:38,920 –> 00:43:41,800
\nthese flowers and you have all
\nthis, this, the sense of this, <\/p>\n

739
\n00:43:41,800 –> 00:43:46,000
\nthis around you.
\nHow many of you, you realize <\/p>\n

740
\n00:43:46,000 –> 00:43:48,800
\nthat flowers in many, many
\nspecies, many trees are <\/p>\n

741
\n00:43:48,800 –> 00:43:53,160
\npollinated by bees, right?
\nSo the bees have to go and they <\/p>\n

742
\n00:43:53,160 –> 00:43:55,040
\nhave to take the nectar.
\nThat’s why I asked if you know <\/p>\n

743
\n00:43:55,040 –> 00:43:57,040
\nabout the birds and the bees,
\nand then they have to go to <\/p>\n

744
\n00:43:57,040 –> 00:43:59,600
\nother ones and they bring the
\npollen around with them, right? <\/p>\n

745
\n00:44:00,360 –> 00:44:02,360
\nWhat happened before there were
\nbees? <\/p>\n

746
\n00:44:07,120 –> 00:44:09,480
\nWe wait 50 million years for the
\nbees to come along. <\/p>\n

747
\n00:44:10,240 –> 00:44:12,320
\nOf course not.
\nBoth of those things have to <\/p>\n

748
\n00:44:12,320 –> 00:44:16,560
\noccur at the same time.
\nThey have to be coordinated. <\/p>\n

749
\n00:44:16,560 –> 00:44:17,920
\nAnd that’s what he’s talking
\nabout. <\/p>\n

750
\n00:44:18,160 –> 00:44:21,400
\nThere are, there are literally
\nin this book, if you get a <\/p>\n

751
\n00:44:21,400 –> 00:44:23,200
\nchance to read the Great
\nEvolution Mystery, there are <\/p>\n

752
\n00:44:23,200 –> 00:44:26,840
\nliterally thousands upon
\nthousands of things in nature <\/p>\n

753
\n00:44:27,120 –> 00:44:30,640
\nthat if they were not
\ncoordinated, they couldn’t <\/p>\n

754
\n00:44:30,640 –> 00:44:34,800
\noccur.
\nAnd so it’s not just one thing <\/p>\n

755
\n00:44:34,800 –> 00:44:37,080
\nby accident.
\nYou need lots and lots of <\/p>\n

756
\n00:44:37,080 –> 00:44:40,800
\naccidents and they all have to
\noccur at the same time. <\/p>\n

757
\n00:44:42,040 –> 00:44:45,280
\nTo me, that means somebody had
\nto be planning it. <\/p>\n

758
\n00:44:46,240 –> 00:44:48,920
\nTo a biologist, the answer is,
\noh, we don’t know. <\/p>\n

759
\n00:44:48,920 –> 00:44:50,640
\nIt’s an accident.
\nOK. <\/p>\n

760
\n00:44:50,920 –> 00:44:53,520
\nI don’t have enough faith to
\nbelieve in accidents. <\/p>\n

761
\n00:44:53,880 –> 00:44:56,680
\nI like the Bible explanation a
\nlot better. <\/p>\n

762
\n00:44:57,400 –> 00:44:59,800
\nOK, let’s see what else we have
\nhere. <\/p>\n

763
\n00:45:01,160 –> 00:45:04,520
\nNo new phyla have appeared and
\nno new classes or orders. <\/p>\n

764
\n00:45:04,760 –> 00:45:07,720
\nThat’s just what I read you from
\nFirst Corinthians 15. <\/p>\n

765
\n00:45:08,120 –> 00:45:11,160
\nEverything that’s been found in
\nnature of the various phyla, <\/p>\n

766
\n00:45:11,560 –> 00:45:13,720
\nfishes are still fishes.
\nMen are still men. <\/p>\n

767
\n00:45:13,960 –> 00:45:16,680
\nYou know, trees are sort of, you
\nknow, fowls are still fat. <\/p>\n

768
\n00:45:16,880 –> 00:45:20,440
\nThey all remain the same.
\nThere’s a lot of hand waving, <\/p>\n

769
\n00:45:20,440 –> 00:45:22,400
\nright?
\nBirds are supposed to come from <\/p>\n

770
\n00:45:22,400 –> 00:45:23,760
\ndinosaurs.
\nOK. <\/p>\n

771
\n00:45:23,760 –> 00:45:26,120
\nAnd then two weeks later, I read
\nan article that maybe that’s not<\/p>\n

772
\n00:45:26,120 –> 00:45:28,080
\ntrue.
\nMaybe dinosaurs came from birds.<\/p>\n

773
\n00:45:29,640 –> 00:45:32,240
\nOK, And I’m serious.
\nThose both appeared about the <\/p>\n

774
\n00:45:32,240 –> 00:45:36,800
\nsame time.
\nOK, convergent and parallel <\/p>\n

775
\n00:45:36,800 –> 00:45:39,320
\nexistence of long term.
\nI, I, we can go on before <\/p>\n

776
\n00:45:39,440 –> 00:45:41,520
\nappearance of organs, before
\nthey are needed. <\/p>\n

777
\n00:45:42,120 –> 00:45:46,560
\nOK, all of these that overshoot.
\nOh yeah, this is this is <\/p>\n

778
\n00:45:46,560 –> 00:45:49,920
\ninteresting because, you know, I
\nshowed you that model about how <\/p>\n

779
\n00:45:49,920 –> 00:45:53,040
\nthings get bigger and bigger and
\nbrain cap capacity gets bigger. <\/p>\n

780
\n00:45:53,400 –> 00:45:56,800
\nBut that’s not necessarily true.
\nAnd the the woolly mammoth is a <\/p>\n

781
\n00:45:56,800 –> 00:45:59,280
\nclassic example.
\nThe woolly mammoths are many <\/p>\n

782
\n00:45:59,400 –> 00:46:03,480
\nmuch bigger brains appear to
\nhave been much larger in size <\/p>\n

783
\n00:46:03,480 –> 00:46:05,280
\nand stronger than present day
\nelephants. <\/p>\n

784
\n00:46:05,400 –> 00:46:08,280
\nBut they’re gone and the weaker
\nones have survived. <\/p>\n

785
\n00:46:08,880 –> 00:46:11,720
\nThat’s not easy to understand.
\nThat’s not so much for about <\/p>\n

786
\n00:46:11,720 –> 00:46:15,200
\nfrom creation, but the
\nunderpinning of the model of <\/p>\n

787
\n00:46:15,200 –> 00:46:17,760
\nnatural selection.
\nNatural selection doesn’t always<\/p>\n

788
\n00:46:17,760 –> 00:46:20,040
\nwork.
\nSometimes a weaker species <\/p>\n

789
\n00:46:20,040 –> 00:46:25,440
\nsurvives OK by the way they
\nchoose to adapt themselves. <\/p>\n

790
\n00:46:28,280 –> 00:46:32,440
\nThis is the another sort of
\nclassical 1A puzzle of how <\/p>\n

791
\n00:46:32,440 –> 00:46:35,560
\norgans, once evolved, come to be
\nlost or be degenerate. <\/p>\n

792
\n00:46:36,280 –> 00:46:40,080
\nBiologists have long argued
\nabout what’s the use of the <\/p>\n

793
\n00:46:40,080 –> 00:46:41,400
\nappendix.
\nI. <\/p>\n

794
\n00:46:41,400 –> 00:46:44,040
\nI brought this up to someone and
\nhe said, well, without that, a <\/p>\n

795
\n00:46:44,040 –> 00:46:46,560
\nlot of doctors wouldn’t be
\nearning all this money from <\/p>\n

796
\n00:46:46,560 –> 00:46:48,880
\nappendicitis.
\nAnd so, But, you know, that <\/p>\n

797
\n00:46:48,880 –> 00:46:51,920
\nmight be a joke.
\nBut in fact, there’s no no one’s<\/p>\n

798
\n00:46:51,920 –> 00:46:53,680
\never figured out the reason for
\nthis. <\/p>\n

799
\n00:46:59,120 –> 00:47:04,160
\nLet me see how many more we got.
\nI’ll just Oh yes, this is again <\/p>\n

800
\n00:47:04,160 –> 00:47:09,400
\nanother the failure some
\norganisms to evolve at all the <\/p>\n

801
\n00:47:09,400 –> 00:47:15,360
\npeople at Johns Hopkins Stanley,
\nwho’s a who’s a similar type <\/p>\n

802
\n00:47:15,360 –> 00:47:18,400
\nperson from Ghoul, they’ve been
\nworking on and off for the last <\/p>\n

803
\n00:47:18,400 –> 00:47:21,840
\n2025 years on this.
\nHe he has shown that some <\/p>\n

804
\n00:47:21,840 –> 00:47:28,320
\norganisms never seem to evolve.
\nFor example, a clam today the <\/p>\n

805
\n00:47:28,320 –> 00:47:32,600
\nfossil would look identical to a
\nclam that you might find in a <\/p>\n

806
\n00:47:32,600 –> 00:47:37,320
\nlevel 500 million years old.
\nNo change whatsoever. <\/p>\n

807
\n00:47:37,520 –> 00:47:41,320
\nIn fact, many, many shellfish
\nhave never ever evolved or <\/p>\n

808
\n00:47:41,320 –> 00:47:44,680
\nchanged at all.
\nAnd that’s, that’s kind of <\/p>\n

809
\n00:47:44,680 –> 00:47:46,360
\nstrange.
\nWhy did some get triggered and <\/p>\n

810
\n00:47:46,360 –> 00:47:49,520
\nsome don’t?
\nWhat what is the mechanism that <\/p>\n

811
\n00:47:49,720 –> 00:47:52,680
\nsome species evolve and others
\nnever, never change? <\/p>\n

812
\n00:47:53,800 –> 00:47:56,400
\nThe answer from biologists is we
\ndon’t know. <\/p>\n

813
\n00:47:57,680 –> 00:47:59,520
\nAnd so you have you have this
\nkind of thing. <\/p>\n

814
\n00:47:59,720 –> 00:48:01,760
\nMaybe the normal kind of
\nthinking about evolution is <\/p>\n

815
\n00:48:01,760 –> 00:48:03,400
\neverything gets bigger, better,
\nsmarter. <\/p>\n

816
\n00:48:04,800 –> 00:48:07,640
\nBut in fact, in the real
\nevidence in fossils and in <\/p>\n

817
\n00:48:07,640 –> 00:48:10,240
\nnature is that is almost never
\ntrue. <\/p>\n

818
\n00:48:12,480 –> 00:48:14,200
\nThere is no, there is not a
\ndirect link. <\/p>\n

819
\n00:48:14,200 –> 00:48:17,000
\nIf you want to read this book,
\nit’s by Taylor and it’s called <\/p>\n

820
\n00:48:17,000 –> 00:48:21,000
\nThe Great Evolution Mystery, OK.
\nAnd I’ve found that one of the <\/p>\n

821
\n00:48:21,000 –> 00:48:24,040
\nbest ways to really get an
\ninsight into what the thinking <\/p>\n

822
\n00:48:24,040 –> 00:48:26,960
\nis among biologists and
\nevolutionists is to actually <\/p>\n

823
\n00:48:26,960 –> 00:48:30,720
\nread their own writings.
\nBecause the idea that everything<\/p>\n

824
\n00:48:30,720 –> 00:48:34,400
\nis all figured out and they have
\nall the answers, this is not at <\/p>\n

825
\n00:48:34,400 –> 00:48:37,840
\nall true.
\nIt just is not does not appear <\/p>\n

826
\n00:48:37,840 –> 00:48:39,680
\nin the in the literature that
\nway. <\/p>\n

827
\n00:48:41,720 –> 00:48:45,200
\nI told you about this sort of
\nstandard thing about the fish <\/p>\n

828
\n00:48:45,240 –> 00:48:47,800
\ngetting legs and then walking
\nout of sea. <\/p>\n

829
\n00:48:48,120 –> 00:48:52,760
\nThere was this cartoon some
\nyears back and that now defunct <\/p>\n

830
\n00:48:52,760 –> 00:48:57,360
\nBritish publication Punch.
\nBut there’s 22 spacemen and <\/p>\n

831
\n00:48:58,240 –> 00:49:01,720
\nthey’re standing on a beach and
\nthey’re watching 2 scuba divers <\/p>\n

832
\n00:49:01,720 –> 00:49:04,040
\ncoming out.
\nAnd they say, wait, we may just <\/p>\n

833
\n00:49:04,040 –> 00:49:06,560
\nhave landed at a significant
\nmoment in this planet’s <\/p>\n

834
\n00:49:06,560 –> 00:49:09,920
\nevolution.
\nSo the idea this is sort of the <\/p>\n

835
\n00:49:09,920 –> 00:49:13,720
\ncommon fiction that that man
\nevolved from the sea. <\/p>\n

836
\n00:49:13,920 –> 00:49:16,880
\nBut the real fact of the matter
\nis that it is worth poking fun <\/p>\n

837
\n00:49:16,880 –> 00:49:20,040
\nat because there is not one
\nsingle piece, piece of evidence <\/p>\n

838
\n00:49:20,040 –> 00:49:24,160
\nto prove it.
\nOK, I’ll stop at this point and <\/p>\n

839
\n00:49:24,720 –> 00:49:26,840
\nI promise to leave some time for
\nquestions. <\/p>\n

840
\n00:49:27,360 –> 00:49:31,080
\nAnd I and on the on the topic
\nand the nature of the universe, <\/p>\n

841
\n00:49:31,080 –> 00:49:35,320
\njust small questions, OK.
\nAnd I’ll be glad to answer them.<\/p>\n

842
\n00:49:36,120 –> 00:49:38,520
\nAnd if I don’t get questions, I
\nusually give a quiz. <\/p>\n

843
\n00:49:38,520 –> 00:49:40,000
\nSo help me out.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

844
\n00:49:40,000 –> 00:49:46,320
\nBen.
\nOh, I think the earth is very <\/p>\n

845
\n00:49:46,320 –> 00:49:49,320
\nold.
\nI I don’t know exactly, but <\/p>\n

846
\n00:49:49,320 –> 00:49:52,760
\nit’s, it’s pretty old.
\nThe, the, if you look at Genesis<\/p>\n

847
\n00:49:52,760 –> 00:49:58,480
\n1.
\nAnd I think it’s dangerous to <\/p>\n

848
\n00:49:58,480 –> 00:50:01,160
\nget into dating things that we
\ndon’t have totally firm <\/p>\n

849
\n00:50:01,160 –> 00:50:03,000
\nevidence.
\nBut but the earth is very, very <\/p>\n

850
\n00:50:03,000 –> 00:50:05,360
\nold.
\nHe says in the beginning God <\/p>\n

851
\n00:50:05,360 –> 00:50:07,320
\ncreated the heaven and the
\nearth. <\/p>\n

852
\n00:50:08,280 –> 00:50:10,120
\nAnd so God did.
\nThat was the first thing he did.<\/p>\n

853
\n00:50:10,120 –> 00:50:13,760
\nThen he said the earth was
\nwithout form and void and <\/p>\n

854
\n00:50:13,760 –> 00:50:17,240
\ndarkness was upon the face of
\nthe deep, and the Spirit of God <\/p>\n

855
\n00:50:17,240 –> 00:50:18,840
\nmoved upon the face of the
\nwater. <\/p>\n

856
\n00:50:18,840 –> 00:50:23,680
\nSo when God set up to create the
\npresent order of things, he, he <\/p>\n

857
\n00:50:23,680 –> 00:50:26,360
\nwas already building on what he
\nhad earlier created. <\/p>\n

858
\n00:50:26,800 –> 00:50:32,280
\nAnd whatever was here before, it
\nprobably messed up and he <\/p>\n

859
\n00:50:32,280 –> 00:50:36,560
\nstarted all over again.
\nBut I, I think, you know, I <\/p>\n

860
\n00:50:36,560 –> 00:50:39,560
\nthink the Earth has been used
\nfor other purposes in the past. <\/p>\n

861
\n00:50:39,560 –> 00:50:41,360
\nI think the evidence of it is
\npretty obvious. <\/p>\n

862
\n00:50:41,360 –> 00:50:43,360
\nWe’re not the only thing God has
\never created. <\/p>\n

863
\n00:50:43,360 –> 00:50:47,680
\nAnd I think it would be pretty
\nego egocentric of us to think we<\/p>\n

864
\n00:50:47,680 –> 00:50:49,080
\nwere.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

865
\n00:50:54,480 –> 00:50:57,240
\nThe Big Bang theory.
\nWhat’s the latest Big Bang <\/p>\n

866
\n00:50:57,240 –> 00:50:59,760
\nTheory?
\nThere was a Big Bang in the <\/p>\n

867
\n00:50:59,840 –> 00:51:04,760
\nuniverse.
\nWell, you notice you just said <\/p>\n

868
\n00:51:04,760 –> 00:51:09,680
\nThe Big Bang theory and there
\nwere about 20 different Big Bang<\/p>\n

869
\n00:51:09,680 –> 00:51:14,200
\ntheories.
\nAnd it doesn’t have too much to <\/p>\n

870
\n00:51:14,200 –> 00:51:17,000
\ndo with with evolution.
\nYeah. <\/p>\n

871
\n00:51:17,000 –> 00:51:20,640
\nThe, the, the interesting thing
\nabout The Big Bang theory is <\/p>\n

872
\n00:51:20,640 –> 00:51:23,680
\nwhatever model you take, it’s an
\nadmission by scientists that <\/p>\n

873
\n00:51:23,680 –> 00:51:28,360
\nthey must have at one time or
\nother been a creation until, <\/p>\n

874
\n00:51:28,360 –> 00:51:31,360
\nuntil, you know, until this
\ncentury, actually, until about <\/p>\n

875
\n00:51:31,360 –> 00:51:35,040
\n40 years ago, most scientists
\nbelieve the universe was forever<\/p>\n

876
\n00:51:35,320 –> 00:51:39,600
\nand it always existed and they
\ndidn’t believe there was ever a <\/p>\n

877
\n00:51:39,600 –> 00:51:42,720
\ncreation.
\nSo The Big Bang and whatever <\/p>\n

878
\n00:51:42,720 –> 00:51:45,800
\nmodel you, you put, is it
\nadmission by scientists that <\/p>\n

879
\n00:51:45,800 –> 00:51:48,960
\nthere was a time when the
\nuniverse had to be created? <\/p>\n

880
\n00:51:49,520 –> 00:51:54,520
\nAs far as the specific Big Bang
\nTheory, I I wouldn’t even begin <\/p>\n

881
\n00:51:54,520 –> 00:51:57,920
\nto argue about a theory because
\nI’m, you know, I’m not, I don’t <\/p>\n

882
\n00:51:57,920 –> 00:52:00,640
\nthink any of them are, are, are
\nsolvable right now. <\/p>\n

883
\n00:52:03,760 –> 00:52:14,840
\nYep,
\nright. <\/p>\n

884
\n00:52:21,880 –> 00:52:27,440
\nI mean, the way the scripture is
\npresented, Oh, I, I, I, I don’t <\/p>\n

885
\n00:52:27,440 –> 00:52:30,280
\nthink that science has a, a good
\nmodel for creation. <\/p>\n

886
\n00:52:31,160 –> 00:52:34,280
\nI mean, if, if you go by what
\nGhoul was saying, he they take <\/p>\n

887
\n00:52:34,280 –> 00:52:36,240
\nit, he takes it to be an
\naccident. <\/p>\n

888
\n00:52:46,040 –> 00:53:09,480
\nYeah.
\nOK, that’s it. <\/p>\n

889
\n00:53:09,480 –> 00:53:12,800
\nThat’s a fairpoint.
\nAnd someone, someone who <\/p>\n

890
\n00:53:13,400 –> 00:53:16,440
\nbelieves in Darwin, says we need
\nmore and more evidence. <\/p>\n

891
\n00:53:16,440 –> 00:53:19,040
\nOK, They’ve had 150 years to
\nlook for this evidence. <\/p>\n

892
\n00:53:19,560 –> 00:53:23,400
\nAnd in fact, the evidence has
\ncontradicted the original model.<\/p>\n

893
\n00:53:24,160 –> 00:53:25,960
\nOK, This is exactly what Ghoul
\nsays. <\/p>\n

894
\n00:53:25,960 –> 00:53:28,440
\nSo we do not see gradual
\nchanges, period. <\/p>\n

895
\n00:53:28,440 –> 00:53:31,360
\nWe don’t see it.
\nSo Darwin’s a middle original <\/p>\n

896
\n00:53:31,360 –> 00:53:35,760
\nmodel, in fact is almost
\nuniversally accepted as being <\/p>\n

897
\n00:53:35,760 –> 00:53:37,520
\nwrong today.
\nAll right. <\/p>\n

898
\n00:53:37,720 –> 00:53:41,160
\nAnd So what it what has come
\nabout is that people like Ghoul <\/p>\n

899
\n00:53:41,160 –> 00:53:44,880
\nand others are now calling a
\nbeing called Neo Darwinist a new<\/p>\n

900
\n00:53:44,880 –> 00:53:47,280
\nDarwinist because they don’t
\nwant to admit that there was any<\/p>\n

901
\n00:53:47,280 –> 00:53:52,560
\ndesign or creation.
\nSo they have this new model of <\/p>\n

902
\n00:53:52,560 –> 00:53:54,800
\naccidents.
\nSo I would say that the first <\/p>\n

903
\n00:53:54,800 –> 00:53:58,480
\npoint is that the Darwinism as a
\ntheory has already been proven <\/p>\n

904
\n00:53:58,480 –> 00:54:00,000
\nwrong.
\nJust to correct what you said, <\/p>\n

905
\n00:54:00,360 –> 00:54:03,840
\nthe the theory of gradual change
\nevolving better and better has <\/p>\n

906
\n00:54:03,840 –> 00:54:05,800
\nbeen proven wrong by the very
\nevidence. <\/p>\n

907
\n00:54:05,880 –> 00:54:08,520
\nOK.
\nSecond point, that doesn’t prove<\/p>\n

908
\n00:54:08,520 –> 00:54:10,960
\nthe creation.
\nAnd you’re, you’re absolutely <\/p>\n

909
\n00:54:10,960 –> 00:54:13,240
\nright.
\nAt some point you have to accept<\/p>\n

910
\n00:54:13,560 –> 00:54:16,520
\nfaith.
\nThe the difference, I would say,<\/p>\n

911
\n00:54:16,520 –> 00:54:19,840
\nin the way I would believe faith
\nis that the Scripture says that <\/p>\n

912
\n00:54:19,960 –> 00:54:22,600
\nfaith is the substance of things
\nhoped for. <\/p>\n

913
\n00:54:22,920 –> 00:54:26,160
\nSo the Bible has confirmed its
\nword in other ways, through <\/p>\n

914
\n00:54:26,160 –> 00:54:29,680
\nprophecy, through history,
\nthrough its moral presence, <\/p>\n

915
\n00:54:29,840 –> 00:54:33,200
\nthrough other things that we can
\nsay make sense and are good and <\/p>\n

916
\n00:54:33,200 –> 00:54:36,640
\nin themselves give me confidence
\nthat that’s the word of God. <\/p>\n

917
\n00:54:36,960 –> 00:54:40,440
\nSo if I, if I, if I have a, a
\nmodel of something and I find <\/p>\n

918
\n00:54:40,600 –> 00:54:42,560
\nthat this fits, that fits, that
\nfits. <\/p>\n

919
\n00:54:42,800 –> 00:54:45,520
\nAnd I look at prophecy and I
\nlook at the moral teachings and <\/p>\n

920
\n00:54:45,520 –> 00:54:48,120
\nI look at what the Jesus Christ
\nhas presented and everything, <\/p>\n

921
\n00:54:48,440 –> 00:54:50,400
\nthen I, I feel much more
\ncomfortable. <\/p>\n

922
\n00:54:50,480 –> 00:54:52,920
\nAnd when I said earlier, I said,
\nI, I don’t, I don’t have enough <\/p>\n

923
\n00:54:52,920 –> 00:54:58,440
\nfaith to believe in Darwin, but
\nI do have enough faith to <\/p>\n

924
\n00:54:58,440 –> 00:55:00,840
\nbelieve in what the scriptures
\nis teaching. <\/p>\n

925
\n00:55:00,920 –> 00:55:02,160
\nAnd that’s the way I would look
\nat it. <\/p>\n

926
\n00:55:02,160 –> 00:55:06,680
\nAt some point when we have not
\nactually been there and <\/p>\n

927
\n00:55:06,680 –> 00:55:08,840
\nwitnessed it, faith does take
\nover. <\/p>\n

928
\n00:55:09,000 –> 00:55:11,240
\nBut faith isn’t doesn’t have to
\nbe blind. <\/p>\n

929
\n00:55:12,280 –> 00:55:13,760
\nAnd I think that’s the
\ndifference. <\/p>\n

930
\n00:55:14,840 –> 00:55:18,680
\nSo I think the evidence that the
\nBible presents comes at many <\/p>\n

931
\n00:55:18,680 –> 00:55:21,520
\ndifferent levels and to me is
\nlogical. <\/p>\n

932
\n00:55:22,480 –> 00:55:25,440
\nBut it to for me to say to you
\nwhile I was there and I saw the <\/p>\n

933
\n00:55:25,440 –> 00:55:27,080
\ncreation, well, obviously I
\ncan’t do that. <\/p>\n

934
\n00:55:27,080 –> 00:55:28,480
\nAt some point we have to have
\nthat faith. <\/p>\n

935
\n00:55:28,840 –> 00:55:31,360
\nNow that’s important because
\nnone of us have ever seen the <\/p>\n

936
\n00:55:31,360 –> 00:55:36,240
\nresurrection either.
\nSo we we have to at some point <\/p>\n

937
\n00:55:36,240 –> 00:55:39,880
\nto have faith in God that the
\ntwo things he did do, create and<\/p>\n

938
\n00:55:40,040 –> 00:55:42,200
\ngive eternal life are going to
\nactually happen. <\/p>\n

939
\n00:55:42,320 –> 00:55:44,440
\nIt’s got to be based on
\neverything else is in between in<\/p>\n

940
\n00:55:44,440 –> 00:55:47,200
\nthe scriptures and see if that
\nmodel makes us comfortable. <\/p>\n

941
\n00:55:49,600 –> 00:55:52,640
\nFair enough.
\nOK, yeah. <\/p>\n

942
\n00:55:52,640 –> 00:56:00,720
\nWe, I, I think what I would like
\nto see taught in the classroom <\/p>\n

943
\n00:56:00,720 –> 00:56:04,200
\nand what I finally convinced my
\nson’s high school to do is to <\/p>\n

944
\n00:56:04,200 –> 00:56:06,160
\ngive me an hour to talk to the
\nclass. <\/p>\n

945
\n00:56:08,320 –> 00:56:11,280
\nThey never did that again for
\nthe other, for Peter. <\/p>\n

946
\n00:56:11,280 –> 00:56:13,520
\nAnd I’m sure in Sunny Hills they
\nwouldn’t, wouldn’t not be near <\/p>\n

947
\n00:56:13,520 –> 00:56:17,000
\nthe building.
\nI think they ought to at least <\/p>\n

948
\n00:56:17,040 –> 00:56:21,680
\nlet young people know that it is
\na theory, that there are other <\/p>\n

949
\n00:56:22,520 –> 00:56:28,160
\ncompeting ideas, and that that
\ncreation by design and by a God,<\/p>\n

950
\n00:56:28,160 –> 00:56:30,680
\nand I don’t think you have to
\nshove anything down their throat<\/p>\n

951
\n00:56:30,680 –> 00:56:34,240
\nspecifically, is also something
\nthat ought to be considered. <\/p>\n

952
\n00:56:34,400 –> 00:56:36,120
\nI’d be happy enough if they do
\nthat. <\/p>\n

953
\n00:56:36,480 –> 00:56:37,400
\nI don’t think they have to teach
\nthat. <\/p>\n

954
\n00:56:37,400 –> 00:56:40,320
\nI certainly don’t want to teach
\nin creation science and young <\/p>\n

955
\n00:56:40,320 –> 00:56:42,800
\nEarth and all that, because I
\ndon’t think that’s right either.<\/p>\n

956
\n00:56:43,040 –> 00:56:46,120
\nBut I think they ought to at
\nleast be honest to young people <\/p>\n

957
\n00:56:46,120 –> 00:56:48,840
\nand say this is a model.
\nThe model has a lot of <\/p>\n

958
\n00:56:48,840 –> 00:56:51,360
\nexperimental problems.
\nThere’s a lot of evidence <\/p>\n

959
\n00:56:51,360 –> 00:56:53,640
\nlacking.
\nScientists themselves are not <\/p>\n

960
\n00:56:53,640 –> 00:56:56,720
\nfully convinced of it.
\nAnd there is another alternative<\/p>\n

961
\n00:56:56,720 –> 00:57:00,000
\ntaught through faith by by most
\nmajor religions, not just <\/p>\n

962
\n00:57:00,280 –> 00:57:03,040
\nChristians, by the way, the
\nQuran and others teach, teach <\/p>\n

963
\n00:57:03,040 –> 00:57:05,880
\nalso God’s creation.
\nAnd they ought to at least spend<\/p>\n

964
\n00:57:06,000 –> 00:57:10,120
\n20 minutes telling children, you
\nknow, that there is more than <\/p>\n

965
\n00:57:10,120 –> 00:57:12,440
\none way to look at this.
\nI’d be happy if they do that. <\/p>\n

966
\n00:57:12,440 –> 00:57:14,320
\nI’ve been arguing.
\nI’ll tell you something else <\/p>\n

967
\n00:57:14,320 –> 00:57:16,800
\nthat happened.
\nAny of you get Scientific <\/p>\n

968
\n00:57:16,800 –> 00:57:21,000
\nAmerican.
\nOK, then I’ll talk. <\/p>\n

969
\n00:57:21,320 –> 00:57:25,720
\nI won’t.
\nI won’t bring it up, but if you <\/p>\n

970
\n00:57:25,720 –> 00:57:27,840
\nhaven’t read the article, this,
\nthis, there’s no point. <\/p>\n

971
\n00:57:28,920 –> 00:57:32,200
\nI I may publish something on
\nthis in commercial on the <\/p>\n

972
\n00:57:32,200 –> 00:57:33,640
\ntidings in the next couple of
\nmonths. <\/p>\n

973
\n00:57:33,680 –> 00:57:44,800
\nOK, Yeah.
\nSo what do you think about that?<\/p>\n

974
\n00:57:50,520 –> 00:57:53,240
\nWell, yeah, I read something
\nabout that too, but that that <\/p>\n

975
\n00:57:53,240 –> 00:57:57,680
\nwas a speculation.
\nFrankly, it wouldn’t surprise me<\/p>\n

976
\n00:57:57,680 –> 00:57:59,360
\nif there was life elsewhere in
\nthe universe. <\/p>\n

977
\n00:57:59,360 –> 00:58:00,800
\nI would.
\nI would think that God is a God <\/p>\n

978
\n00:58:00,800 –> 00:58:03,520
\nof creation if he’s going to
\nfill the earth with his glory, <\/p>\n

979
\n00:58:03,520 –> 00:58:04,760
\nfill the universe with his
\nglory. <\/p>\n

980
\n00:58:04,760 –> 00:58:07,560
\nSo I just don’t know about it
\nand I don’t know what he’s done.<\/p>\n

981
\n00:58:12,680 –> 00:58:15,600
\nThe main problem of finding and
\nproving life within our own <\/p>\n

982
\n00:58:15,600 –> 00:58:18,480
\nsolar system is that anything we
\nsend out there, you know, might <\/p>\n

983
\n00:58:18,480 –> 00:58:21,040
\ncontaminate it.
\nAnd all we’ll bring back is <\/p>\n

984
\n00:58:21,040 –> 00:58:23,680
\nsomething we are we put there
\nourselves. <\/p>\n

985
\n00:58:24,720 –> 00:58:30,320
\nBut I personally think that that
\nGod has no other intelligent <\/p>\n

986
\n00:58:30,320 –> 00:58:33,640
\nlife in this, you know, in this,
\nin this solar, you know, this <\/p>\n

987
\n00:58:33,640 –> 00:58:36,040
\nwhole solar system.
\nWe’re we’re quarantined. <\/p>\n

988
\n00:58:37,520 –> 00:58:39,400
\nI mean, would you let anyone
\nelse near us? <\/p>\n

989
\n00:58:41,240 –> 00:58:43,800
\nI mean, you got to realize that
\nthe, the Earth and our solar <\/p>\n

990
\n00:58:43,800 –> 00:58:45,880
\nsystem is like on the fringe of
\nthe Galaxy. <\/p>\n

991
\n00:58:46,320 –> 00:58:49,040
\nWe’re not in the densely
\npopulated star part of the <\/p>\n

992
\n00:58:49,040 –> 00:58:51,360
\nGalaxy.
\nI mean, if, if you know, if this<\/p>\n

993
\n00:58:51,360 –> 00:58:54,840
\nis the galactic center over here
\nsomewhere like over, if I can <\/p>\n

994
\n00:58:54,840 –> 00:58:57,440
\nget this thing to work.
\nIf we, this is the galactic <\/p>\n

995
\n00:58:57,440 –> 00:59:01,640
\ncenter, we’re way out here at
\nthe fringe and we’re a long way <\/p>\n

996
\n00:59:01,640 –> 00:59:04,280
\nfrom the galactic center and,
\nand, and, and we’re in a very, <\/p>\n

997
\n00:59:04,880 –> 00:59:08,160
\nvery sparsely populated part of
\nthe universe. <\/p>\n

998
\n00:59:08,440 –> 00:59:10,880
\nI think, I don’t think it’s
\nentirely an accident. <\/p>\n

999
\n00:59:12,240 –> 00:59:15,120
\nI mean, I, I wouldn’t let
\nanywhere near this race. <\/p>\n

1000
\n00:59:17,800 –> 00:59:22,040
\nYeah, sure.
\nI’m not a geologist, though. <\/p>\n

1001
\n00:59:22,040 –> 00:59:24,080
\nI may I may, I may not be able
\nto answer it. <\/p>\n

1002
\n00:59:41,080 –> 00:59:43,320
\nOh, I, that, that one, I can’t
\nanswer for you. <\/p>\n

1003
\n00:59:43,920 –> 00:59:47,040
\nThey did a chemical analysis on
\nit and it was very similar to <\/p>\n

1004
\n00:59:47,040 –> 00:59:50,600
\nsome stuff that was sent back
\nfrom data recording from the, <\/p>\n

1005
\n00:59:50,800 –> 00:59:55,280
\nthe, the probe that they landed
\non Mars, the Viking probe. <\/p>\n

1006
\n00:59:56,000 –> 00:59:58,080
\nSo there was a, there was a
\ngreat deal of similarity and <\/p>\n

1007
\n00:59:58,080 –> 01:00:02,520
\nthey think that maybe a
\nmeteorite, a very large one, hit<\/p>\n

1008
\n01:00:02,520 –> 01:00:05,040
\nMars, knocked something in the
\norbit and we got some of that <\/p>\n

1009
\n01:00:05,040 –> 01:00:07,560
\ndebris.
\nBut I, I think to be careful, <\/p>\n

1010
\n01:00:07,560 –> 01:00:09,680
\nyou know?
\nThey they did say, if I remember<\/p>\n

1011
\n01:00:09,680 –> 01:00:11,840
\nthe article I read that there
\nwas a high probability. <\/p>\n

1012
\n01:00:13,000 –> 01:00:14,080
\nI don’t think they could have
\ndent. <\/p>\n

1013
\n01:00:16,440 –> 01:00:20,520
\nWell, if it was in the LA Times
\nthen what can I say? <\/p>\n

1014
\n01:00:21,800 –> 01:00:23,440
\nWas it in the New York Times
\ntoo? <\/p>\n

1015
\n01:00:26,600 –> 01:00:29,320
\nI I’m getting the signal to I
\nthink I’m going to be pulled off<\/p>\n

1016
\n01:00:30,520 –> 01:00:31,160
\nanyway.
\nThanks. <\/p>\n

1017
\n01:00:31,160 –> 01:00:33,720
\nThanks a lot.
\nIt’s been a pleasure to to visit<\/p>\n

1018
\n01:00:33,720 –> 01:00:36,960
\nand if anyone wants to stick
\naround until they throw me out, <\/p>\n

1019
\n01:00:36,960 –> 01:00:38,200
\nI’ll be glad to talk to you
\nmore. <\/p>\n

1020
\n01:00:38,200 –> 01:00:53,540
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\nThank you for listening to the <\/p>\n

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1039
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