{"id":1188,"date":"2024-09-15T21:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-09-15T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/313-stephen-whitehouse-wrestling-face-to-face-with-god\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T04:38:11","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T04:38:11","slug":"313-stephen-whitehouse-wrestling-face-to-face-with-god","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/313-stephen-whitehouse-wrestling-face-to-face-with-god\/","title":{"rendered":"313: Stephen Whitehouse – (Wrestling) Face to Face with God"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week we are listening Class 3 from the series “From Jacob to Israel: A Journey of Many Faces” by Bro. Stephen Whitehouse entitled “(Wrestling) Face to Face with God” that was given at the Midwest Bible School in United States in 2024. Slides for the entire series can be found HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to good Chris.
\nElphin talks. <\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to the 7th season of the
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\nThis is brother Brian. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that’s right, folks, this is
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\ngoing into the 7th year of
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\nPretty amazing.
\nSo first, we want to say thank <\/p>\n

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\nyou to all of our listeners,
\nthose of you who have sent in <\/p>\n

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\nrecommendations over the years.
\nYou really are what keeps this <\/p>\n

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\nproject going for the sake of
\nthe gospel. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week’s talk is the third
\nclass in a series that was given<\/p>\n

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\nby Brother Steven Whitehouse
\nthis past summer at the Midwest <\/p>\n

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\nBible School.
\nBrother Stevens spoke on the <\/p>\n

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\ntheme of Jacob growing into
\nIsrael and the idea of the many <\/p>\n

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\nfaces that he had or saw.
\nAnd what we’re listening to is <\/p>\n

24
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\nClass 3 called Wrestling Face to
\nFace with God. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I don’t know if it was
\nnecessarily the standout class <\/p>\n

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\nof the week since I think
\nthey’re all phenomenal. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I hate having to choose just
\none when you end up getting a <\/p>\n

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\nreally solid series of 456
\nclasses, because then having to <\/p>\n

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\npost just one feels a bit like a
\nRIP off sometimes from a host <\/p>\n

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\npoint of view.
\nSo they all will be on the GCT <\/p>\n

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\nextended channel along with the
\nslides that will be made <\/p>\n

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\navailable through YouTube.
\nBut this class can definitely <\/p>\n

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\nstand on its own as it breaks
\ndown the iconic and mysterious <\/p>\n

34
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\nwrestling match that Jacob had
\nwith an Angel before his name <\/p>\n

35
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\nwas changed to Israel.
\nAnd Brother Steven answers so <\/p>\n

36
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\nmany questions along the way.
\nDrops in a ton of great gems. <\/p>\n

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\nVery practical takeaways for us
\nas well in the perspective of <\/p>\n

38
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\nwrestling with God while he is
\nworking through US via trials <\/p>\n

39
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\nand tribulations.
\nThis class was a multi repeat. <\/p>\n

40
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\nListen for me and I advise you
\nnot to be a silly person. <\/p>\n

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\nMake sure you listen to the
\nwhole series and pass this along<\/p>\n

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\nto someone who you think needs
\nto hear it as well with the <\/p>\n

43
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\nmessage.
\nHold on, he is with you. <\/p>\n

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\nSo as always, we hope that this
\nstrengthens your faith and <\/p>\n

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\nbrightens your day.
\nBrother Steven Whitehouse <\/p>\n

46
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\nwrestling face to face with God.
\nWell, good morning, brothers and<\/p>\n

47
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\nsisters, young people, I think
\nthis is the halfway point. <\/p>\n

48
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\nHope you’re feeling good.
\nWell, we explored Jacob’s <\/p>\n

49
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\njourney yesterday, didn’t we?
\nFrom deceit to a divine <\/p>\n

50
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\nencounter at Bethel.
\nHe laid that foundation stone, <\/p>\n

51
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\nthe Lord Jesus Christ, in
\nfigure, the chief corner. <\/p>\n

52
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\nAnd we reflected, didn’t we, how
\nwe too are stones being shaped <\/p>\n

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\nby life’s challenges.
\nAnd we are poised to join at <\/p>\n

54
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\nBethel, the chief cornerstone
\nbeing our Lord. <\/p>\n

55
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\nBut we’re going to change gears
\nnow. <\/p>\n

56
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\nAnd I want you to imagine in
\nyour minds at the beginning of <\/p>\n

57
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\ntoday, a moonlight jewel by the
\nJabok. <\/p>\n

58
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\nWe have Jacob and a mysterious
\nfigure. <\/p>\n

59
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\nWe have a a battle of faith and
\ndestiny. <\/p>\n

60
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\nAnd the lesson, the lesson for
\nJacob and the lesson for us all <\/p>\n

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\nthis morning is to hang on, to
\nhang on in faith. <\/p>\n

62
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\nWell, let’s open up our
\nscriptures then. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd we’re going to begin our
\nstory today in Genesis chapter <\/p>\n

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\n32.
\nSo we’ve gone forward in time. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s 20 years, 20 long years for
\nJacob since we last saw him at <\/p>\n

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\nBethel yesterday.
\nAnd here he leaves Laban’s house<\/p>\n

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\nwith his two wives and his
\nfamily, and a big showdown is <\/p>\n

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\nlooming.
\nJacob sends this lavish offering<\/p>\n

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\nof 580 animals to Esau in Eden.
\nSo Esau 20 years later is still <\/p>\n

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\non Jacob’s mind.
\nBut here there’s a twist. <\/p>\n

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\nRemember how Isaac told Esau
\nthat he would receive a land? <\/p>\n

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\nRemember this from chapter 27
\nand verse 39. <\/p>\n

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\nA land away from the fatness of
\nthe earth and away from the Jew <\/p>\n

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\nof heaven.
\nHe was going to claim Edom and <\/p>\n

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\nSeer, and it’s at this very
\nmoment that Esau now is <\/p>\n

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\nengaging, embarking on claiming
\nthat place for himself. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so then Jacob would be very
\nmuch in Esau’s mind, the <\/p>\n

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\nfrustration that he didn’t take
\nthe land. <\/p>\n

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\nHe hadn’t received the blessing.
\nAnd so the tension here is <\/p>\n

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\nelectric.
\nAnd make no mistake, Jacob is <\/p>\n

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\nterrified at the prospect of
\ncoming face to face with Esau, <\/p>\n

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\nand he prays to God.
\nLook at the words there in <\/p>\n

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\nchapter 32 and verse 11.
\nSo we see here that he’s still <\/p>\n

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\nconcerned about Esau.
\nDeliver me, he says, I pray <\/p>\n

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\nthee, from the hand of my
\nbrother, from the hand of Esau, <\/p>\n

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\nfor I fear him.
\nAnd the mother with the <\/p>\n

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\nchildren, that phrase there, the
\nmother with the children should <\/p>\n

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\nbe in the Hebrew Mothers,
\nmothers and the children. <\/p>\n

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\nHe had his whole family with
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\nThere was Rachel and Leah, there
\nwas Bilhar and Zilpah. <\/p>\n

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\nThere were eleven sons.
\nYoung Joseph was there with him <\/p>\n

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\nand Dinah.
\nWe have to go on a few chapters <\/p>\n

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\nto chapter 35 for him to have
\nBenjamin. <\/p>\n

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\nThe whole family is with him.
\nAnd he imagined in his mind the <\/p>\n

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\nmighty hunter approaching him.
\nIt was an ominous picture. <\/p>\n

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\nHis wives, his children
\nslaughtered, bodies piled high <\/p>\n

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\nin a grisly mound of blood
\nsoaked flesh. <\/p>\n

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\nThis was the mind, the
\nimagination of Jacob. <\/p>\n

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\nHis thoughts were flooded with
\nsheer terror. <\/p>\n

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\nDon’t you worry.
\nDon’t you wrestle and have <\/p>\n

101
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\nsleepless nights.
\nDon’t you worry about husbands <\/p>\n

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\nand wives, children,
\ngrandchildren, family. <\/p>\n

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\nHere was Jacob.
\nHe was tormented. <\/p>\n

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\nHe was grappling with fear.
\nHe was in imagining a a worst <\/p>\n

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\ncase scenario.
\nAnd aren’t we the same brothers <\/p>\n

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\nand sisters?
\nBut the lesson that he had at <\/p>\n

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\nBethel.
\nI am with you Jacob, and I’m <\/p>\n

108
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\nnever going to leave you.
\nWe must remember that, brothers <\/p>\n

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\nand sisters, when we too are
\nbeing tormented, when we too are<\/p>\n

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\nfearful, our family, that our
\nimaginations are running wild, <\/p>\n

111
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\nwe, we, we, we think about a
\nworst case scenario. <\/p>\n

112
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\nWe must always remember that
\neven in our darkest hours, our <\/p>\n

113
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\nLord is there with us at our
\nside. <\/p>\n

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\nBut Jacob, he feels compelled to
\nmeet Esau. <\/p>\n

115
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\nHe’s haunted by two decades of
\nguilt. <\/p>\n

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\nLook at these words here.
\nI want you to notice this. <\/p>\n

117
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\nThis, this Hebrew word is a
\nparticularly strong word. <\/p>\n

118
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\nThere in verse 20, he says, I
\nwill appease Esau with the <\/p>\n

119
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\npresent that goeth before me.
\nI want you to notice that word <\/p>\n

120
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\nappease.
\nIt’s a strong word. <\/p>\n

121
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\nIf I said the word kapaa, you
\nwould know, I’m sure what that <\/p>\n

122
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\nword means.
\nIt means cover, purge, reconcile<\/p>\n

123
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\nto make atonement.
\nHere Jacob is seeking Esau’s <\/p>\n

124
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\nforgiveness.
\nHe’s fully aware of the depth of<\/p>\n

125
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\nhis wrong to his brother.
\nSo imagining the worst case <\/p>\n

126
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\nscenario, the bleakest
\nsituation, he’s imagining that <\/p>\n

127
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\nthat that that disaster is about
\nto strike. <\/p>\n

128
\n00:09:44,480 –> 00:09:48,000
\nJacob now separates himself from
\nhis family. <\/p>\n

129
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\nHe’s imagining the worst, and
\nhere he is. <\/p>\n

130
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\nI want you to picture this in
\nyour minds, with all these <\/p>\n

131
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\nthings going through his head.
\nHe’s alone, He’s restless. <\/p>\n

132
\n00:10:03,400 –> 00:10:10,000
\nEsau’s confrontation looms.
\nHe’s consumed by guilt and past <\/p>\n

133
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\nexperiences with his brother,
\nand the face of Esau that he had<\/p>\n

134
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\nat Bethel the first time is
\nstill with him even after the <\/p>\n

135
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\nlong 20 years in Laban’s house.
\nHe fears the face of Esau. <\/p>\n

136
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\nSo that’s the picture.
\nAnd then suddenly, out of the <\/p>\n

137
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\nblue, something totally
\nunexpected happens. <\/p>\n

138
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\nVerse 24 of chapter 32.
\nAnd Jacob was left alone with <\/p>\n

139
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\nall these pictures in his mind,
\nand there wrestled a man with <\/p>\n

140
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\nhim until the breaking of the
\nday. <\/p>\n

141
\n00:10:53,120 –> 00:10:55,920
\nAnd when he saw that he
\nprevailed not against him, he <\/p>\n

142
\n00:10:55,920 –> 00:10:59,320
\ntouched the hollow of his thigh,
\nand the hollow of Jacob’s thigh <\/p>\n

143
\n00:10:59,480 –> 00:11:02,880
\nwas out of joint, and he
\nwrestled with him. <\/p>\n

144
\n00:11:02,880 –> 00:11:07,200
\nSo without warning, Jacob finds
\nhimself in the middle of a <\/p>\n

145
\n00:11:07,200 –> 00:11:10,080
\nwrestling match.
\nSo there’s lots of confusion as <\/p>\n

146
\n00:11:10,080 –> 00:11:12,600
\nyou read these two verses.
\nIt’s between night and day. <\/p>\n

147
\n00:11:12,720 –> 00:11:15,000
\nThere’s an unknown, unknown
\nlocation. <\/p>\n

148
\n00:11:15,200 –> 00:11:18,680
\nAnd, and we’re wondering as we
\nread this with Jacob, who was <\/p>\n

149
\n00:11:18,680 –> 00:11:21,160
\nit?
\nWho is this unidentified person?<\/p>\n

150
\n00:11:21,160 –> 00:11:28,760
\nWas it Esau?
\nAs Esau’s face burned in his <\/p>\n

151
\n00:11:28,760 –> 00:11:36,560
\nmind, was it Esau?
\nFirst detail I want you to <\/p>\n

152
\n00:11:36,560 –> 00:11:40,360
\nnotice is that it takes place
\nhere at Jabok. <\/p>\n

153
\n00:11:40,360 –> 00:11:43,920
\nNow that’s very significant.
\nI, I think this, this begins to,<\/p>\n

154
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\nto reveal a narrative that’s
\ngoing to unravel. <\/p>\n

155
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\nNow, before us, Jabok was the
\nthe border where Israel first <\/p>\n

156
\n00:11:53,800 –> 00:12:02,000
\ntriumphed over the Kingdom east
\nof Jordan as they made their way<\/p>\n

157
\n00:12:02,000 –> 00:12:04,120
\ninto the land.
\nAnd that’s very significant. <\/p>\n

158
\n00:12:04,120 –> 00:12:08,200
\nThat was the first battle, That
\nwas the first victory for Israel<\/p>\n

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\nunder the leadership of Joshua
\nas they took, as they, as they, <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:12,840 –> 00:12:15,840
\nas they went into the land of
\npromise. <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:15,880 –> 00:12:22,200
\nSo it’s telling us here that
\nJacob in chapter 32 is standing <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:22,200 –> 00:12:24,440
\non the threshold of the promised
\nland. <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:24,600 –> 00:12:27,000
\nThis was where the first victory
\ntook place. <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:27,480 –> 00:12:29,720
\nHe’s on the threshold.
\nHe’s on the verge of the <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:29,720 –> 00:12:31,280
\npromised land.
\nThis is where Jacob is. <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:31,400 –> 00:12:34,760
\nIt’s almost as if, as we begin
\nthis narrative now with Jacob <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:34,880 –> 00:12:40,960
\nand the wrestling, that Jacob
\nneeds a push, a push. <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:41,280 –> 00:12:44,920
\nHe’s on the threshold.
\nHe needs a push to enter the <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:44,920 –> 00:12:50,680
\nland, to enter God’s Kingdom.
\nAnd isn’t that the case for all <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:50,680 –> 00:12:53,360
\nof us brothers and sisters?
\nWe’re very needful of pushes, <\/p>\n

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\n00:12:53,360 –> 00:12:59,280
\naren’t we?
\nFrom time to time says there <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:00,760 –> 00:13:03,560
\nthat they wrestled.
\nI want you to notice that word. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:03,560 –> 00:13:08,520
\nIt’s the Hebrew word aback and
\nit means to grapple, to get <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:08,520 –> 00:13:12,600
\ndusty.
\nSo, so the image here is that <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:12,600 –> 00:13:16,320
\nthey that the two of them fought
\nso hard that they created a a <\/p>\n

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\ncloud of dust.
\nIt was hard if you were a a <\/p>\n

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\nbystander, if you witnessed this
\nmoment, it would be very <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:25,080 –> 00:13:27,920
\ndifficult to identify who was
\nwho. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:28,000 –> 00:13:32,440
\nThat’s the whole idea.
\nIt created a dust ball as they <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:32,440 –> 00:13:37,480
\nfought.
\nThis was a a terrific battle, a <\/p>\n

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\nterrific battle.
\nAnd notice here that there’s a <\/p>\n

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\nplay on words.
\nJacob, Jabok, Abak to wrestle. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:48,640 –> 00:13:53,280
\nThey all share the same Hebrew
\nroot. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:54,520 –> 00:14:02,720
\nJacob, Jabok, Abak to wrestle.
\nIt’s almost as if when we’re <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:02,720 –> 00:14:07,320
\nreading the scriptures now, that
\nthe whole scene is wrestling. <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:07,520 –> 00:14:12,240
\nThe whole world was shaking,
\ntrembling violently from the <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:12,240 –> 00:14:15,840
\nunfolding drama.
\nIt’s as if we’re seeing a <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:15,840 –> 00:14:20,480
\nrebirth.
\nA rebirth. <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:21,160 –> 00:14:25,600
\nThere was a tremendous shaking
\nso under the dim moonlighter, a <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:25,600 –> 00:14:27,840
\nfierce struggle between two
\nsilhouettes. <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:28,000 –> 00:14:30,880
\nAnd it was an even match, an
\nencounter between the <\/p>\n

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\nterrestrial and the celestial,
\nthe human, the divine, the <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:34,000 –> 00:14:36,600
\ntemporal and the eternal.
\nAnd this wasn’t just a a <\/p>\n

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\nphysical battle, it was a
\nspiritual battle too. <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:39,320 –> 00:14:42,600
\nAnd upon Jacob’s face would have
\nbeen a face of intense <\/p>\n

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\nconcentration as he embarked
\nupon this wrestling match with <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:47,560 –> 00:14:56,080
\nthis unidentified man.
\nIt tells us, doesn’t it, that he<\/p>\n

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\n00:14:56,080 –> 00:15:06,280
\nwrestled with a man not named.
\nThe identity’s not disclosed <\/p>\n

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\nthere.
\nAnd we have to wait 1000 years. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:16,280 –> 00:15:23,400
\nWe have to wait one 1000 years
\nto find out who this man was. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:23,400 –> 00:15:25,880
\nCome with me now to the book of
\nHosea. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:25,880 –> 00:15:30,000
\nI’d like you to put a marker in
\nHosea, Hosea chapter 12. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:30,000 –> 00:15:35,040
\nIf we are to interpret just as
\nwe’ve interpreted Esau through <\/p>\n

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\nHebrews 11:00 and 12:00, we have
\nto use Hosea to interpret what’s<\/p>\n

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\ntaking place here in the battle
\nbetween Jacob and this <\/p>\n

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\nunidentified man, this wrestling
\nmatch, and we have to wait 1000 <\/p>\n

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\nyears for the identity to be
\nrevealed. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s incredible, isn’t it?
\nThat’s absolutely amazing. <\/p>\n

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\nSo here then, Hosea, chapter 12,
\nverse four, we read these words <\/p>\n

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\nfrom this minor prophet with a
\nmajor message. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:04,520 –> 00:16:10,800
\nYeah, Jacob noticed there had
\npower over the Angel. <\/p>\n

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\nThat’s the disclosure.
\nNow Jacob eventually knew he was<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:16,520 –> 00:16:20,200
\nwrestling with an Angel, but the
\nScriptures do not reveal the <\/p>\n

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\nfact until 1000 years later.
\nYeah, he had power of the Angel <\/p>\n

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\nand prevailed.
\nHe wept and made supplication <\/p>\n

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\nunto him.
\nHe found him in Bethel and there<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:29,320 –> 00:16:34,440
\nhe spake with us.
\nSo it’s not confirmed until now.<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:36,280 –> 00:16:43,400
\nAn Angel, remember at Bethel an
\nAngel stood by him. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:43,400 –> 00:16:46,840
\nRemember that when we were
\ntalking about the staircase and <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:46,840 –> 00:16:50,280
\nhow the Angel stood by him, you
\ncan put in your margin. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:50,280 –> 00:16:57,240
\nGenesis 28, verse 12, I believe
\nit’s the same Angel, the same <\/p>\n

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\nAngel that told him I am with
\nyou and I will not leave you in <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:00,400 –> 00:17:03,400
\nverse 15.
\nAnd that Angel had followed him <\/p>\n

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\ninto Laban’s house.
\nHe had followed him like a twin <\/p>\n

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\nand still now, 20 years later,
\nJacob didn’t know that he was <\/p>\n

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\nbeing divinely protected by his
\nGod. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so suddenly now that Angel
\nappears to him and wrestles with<\/p>\n

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\nhim.
\nI believe that Angel was <\/p>\n

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\nMichael, the Angel in Daniel 12
\nverse one that standeth for the <\/p>\n

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\nchildren of thy people.
\nAnd that journey and that <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:32,240 –> 00:17:36,640
\nadventure was going to begin
\nwith this man, Jacob. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:36,960 –> 00:17:42,920
\nPerhaps Michael was the guardian
\nAngel of Jacob who was made <\/p>\n

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\nIsrael.
\nAnd there this man who carries <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:48,560 –> 00:17:51,480
\nthe name of Yahweh himself stood
\nthere. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:53,120 –> 00:17:55,840
\nNow it’s interesting, isn’t it,
\nthat there was there was Jacob <\/p>\n

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\n20 years early, and he’d seen
\nthe staircase and the angels <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:58,280 –> 00:18:01,480
\nascending and descending.
\nAnd there was perhaps Michael, <\/p>\n

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\nthe great Archangel of God, who
\ntold him, I’m with you, I’m with<\/p>\n

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\nyou, Jacob.
\nAnd he goes into Laban’s house <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:10,240 –> 00:18:12,880
\nand all the affairs that
\ntranspired there. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:12,960 –> 00:18:15,960
\nAnd now, 20 years later, he
\nstill doubts. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:16,120 –> 00:18:19,320
\nAs we reflect upon our own
\nlives, the moment where God has <\/p>\n

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\nhas clearly intervened,
\nintervened in our own lives. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:21,720 –> 00:18:23,520
\nAnd we still doubt, don’t we,
\nbrothers and sisters? <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:23,520 –> 00:18:26,800
\nOf course we still doubt.
\nAnd now this Angel wants to make<\/p>\n

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\ncertain that Jacob understands
\nand believes. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:30,080 –> 00:18:34,440
\nAnd so then this Angel holds on
\nto him and grips him and says, <\/p>\n

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\nI’m with you, Jacob.
\nMake no doubt about it. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:41,840 –> 00:18:50,480
\nI am with you, Jacob.
\nNow, if this Angel had been with<\/p>\n

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\nJacob for 20 years, this Angel
\nwould know everything about <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:54,720 –> 00:18:59,200
\nJacob, wouldn’t he?
\nIt’s in every day of Jacob, his <\/p>\n

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\nups and downs, his crests and
\nhis, his valleys, his tears and <\/p>\n

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\nhis triumphs.
\nHe would know everything about <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:09,120 –> 00:19:13,040
\nJacob.
\nHe would know all his <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:13,040 –> 00:19:18,560
\nweaknesses.
\nThis Angel had an advantage over<\/p>\n

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\n00:19:18,560 –> 00:19:24,320
\nJacob as they wrestled.
\nThis Angel knew everything about<\/p>\n

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\n00:19:24,320 –> 00:19:27,760
\nJacob, yet what does Hosea 12
\ntell us? <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:28,800 –> 00:19:33,360
\nVerse four?
\nYeah, Jacob had power over the <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:33,440 –> 00:19:40,240
\nAngel and prevailed.
\nHow is that so brothers and <\/p>\n

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\nsisters?
\nHow does a man who is 100 years <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:44,240 –> 00:19:51,880
\nof age prevail perhaps over
\nMichael, an Angel of God? <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:52,800 –> 00:19:54,960
\nAnd we read these words.
\nYou can just flip back to <\/p>\n

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\nGenesis chapter 32.
\nWe’ll come back to Hosea <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:57,560 –> 00:20:00,880
\nimmediately, but just look at
\nthese words here in Genesis <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:00,880 –> 00:20:06,400
\nchapter 32 just to confirm this
\nmessage that that Hosea here is <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:06,480 –> 00:20:09,440
\naccurately interpreting Genesis
\nchapter 32. <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:09,440 –> 00:20:11,560
\nOf course he would.
\nBut just let’s just see the <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:11,560 –> 00:20:15,240
\ndetails in Genesis 32 here.
\nLook at verse 25. <\/p>\n

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\nIt says there very clearly the
\nAngel saw that he prevailed not.<\/p>\n

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\nAgainst Jacob.
\nI want you to reflect upon that.<\/p>\n

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\n00:20:27,600 –> 00:20:30,360
\nBrothers and sisters, come back
\nto Hosea 12. <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:31,200 –> 00:20:38,240
\nHow was that possible?
\nHow does a mortal man who was <\/p>\n

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\nfearful of Esau, who was 100
\nyears of age, how does he <\/p>\n

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\novercome an Angel?
\nWell, we’re told the answer in <\/p>\n

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\nHosea chapter 12.
\nYou see there he had power over <\/p>\n

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\nthe Angel and prevailed.
\nSo you can put in your margin <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:58,320 –> 00:21:05,080
\nGenesis 32, verse 25.
\nAnd then we see how He did it. <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:05,400 –> 00:21:09,760
\nHe wept and made supplication
\nunto him. <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:10,360 –> 00:21:16,640
\nHe wept and made supplication.
\nJacob fought with prayers and <\/p>\n

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\ntears.
\nThese were his big and powerful <\/p>\n

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\nweapons.
\nAnd so imagine picture as this <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:24,360 –> 00:21:29,920
\nman is wrestling.
\nHe’s he’s praying, he’s crying, <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:30,800 –> 00:21:34,960
\nhe’s pleading, he’s in utter
\npain. <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:35,680 –> 00:21:40,040
\nThis was a, a spiritual warfare
\nthat that that resulted in a, a <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:40,040 –> 00:21:44,120
\nphysical battle.
\nBut this was a a wrestling with <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:44,120 –> 00:21:53,920
\nhis mind as he prayed, as he
\ncried, as he pleaded with his <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:53,920 –> 00:21:57,520
\nGod.
\nWant us just to reflect upon our<\/p>\n

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\n00:21:57,520 –> 00:21:59,200
\nown battles, brothers and
\nsisters? <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:59,200 –> 00:22:03,440
\nAnd is that the way that we
\napproach our own battles, that <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:03,440 –> 00:22:10,840
\nwe pray, that we cry, that we
\nplead? <\/p>\n

291
\n00:22:12,440 –> 00:22:17,960
\nIf we are to be a Jacob, to be
\ntransformed to Israel, These are<\/p>\n

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\n00:22:17,960 –> 00:22:25,000
\nthe steps that we need to take.
\nI want you to notice something <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:25,000 –> 00:22:27,960
\nelse here.
\nNotice it says there in verse 3,<\/p>\n

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\n00:22:28,680 –> 00:22:33,960
\nHebrews, Hosea 12, verse three.
\nHe took his brother Jacob. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:34,120 –> 00:22:36,840
\nHe took his brother Esau by the
\nheel in the womb. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:37,280 –> 00:22:40,040
\nSo that’s the meaning of the
\nname Jacob, the heel catcher. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:40,800 –> 00:22:47,280
\nAnd then we read and by his
\nstrength he had power with God. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:47,520 –> 00:22:50,400
\nI want you to notice that now.
\nNow look in your margin, please.<\/p>\n

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\n00:22:50,760 –> 00:22:53,920
\nBy that phrase, by his strength,
\nHe had power with God. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:53,920 –> 00:22:56,240
\nWhat do you see?
\nThis is a really important <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:56,240 –> 00:22:57,240
\ndetail.
\nWhat do you see? <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:57,480 –> 00:23:00,920
\nBy that phrase, By his strength,
\nhe had power with God. <\/p>\n

303
\n00:23:01,120 –> 00:23:04,520
\nIf you look carefully in your
\nmargin, you should see in his <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:05,160 –> 00:23:06,720
\nmanhood.
\nHave you got that? <\/p>\n

305
\n00:23:07,920 –> 00:23:14,560
\nYes, in his manhood.
\nSo the battle, the wrestling, <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:15,760 –> 00:23:20,680
\nJacob reaches adulthood.
\nSomething is now changing in <\/p>\n

307
\n00:23:20,720 –> 00:23:23,640
\nJacob.
\nHe has hit maturity as he <\/p>\n

308
\n00:23:23,640 –> 00:23:29,840
\nwrestles with the Angel.
\nAnd so as he grows, he becomes <\/p>\n

309
\n00:23:29,840 –> 00:23:34,360
\nmore and more powerful.
\nHe becomes stronger and stronger<\/p>\n

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\n00:23:34,360 –> 00:23:36,400
\nin God’s strength.
\nNow this is really interesting, <\/p>\n

311
\n00:23:36,400 –> 00:23:38,000
\nisn’t it?
\nBecause look at the contrast <\/p>\n

312
\n00:23:38,000 –> 00:23:40,200
\nnow.
\nIt says there at the beginning <\/p>\n

313
\n00:23:40,200 –> 00:23:42,840
\nof verse three, he took his
\nbrother by the heel in the womb.<\/p>\n

314
\n00:23:43,280 –> 00:23:49,520
\nHe’s an infant, he’s a child,
\nand by his strength in his <\/p>\n

315
\n00:23:49,520 –> 00:23:52,560
\nadulthood, can you see that
\nWe’ve got this progressive step <\/p>\n

316
\n00:23:52,560 –> 00:23:55,360
\nof maturity here.
\nHe had power with God. <\/p>\n

317
\n00:23:55,480 –> 00:23:59,080
\nSo he starts off as a child, an
\ninfant, and as an infant he’s <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:59,080 –> 00:24:03,840
\nholding on to the heel of Jacob.
\nAnd then something happens to <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:03,840 –> 00:24:07,960
\nhim that he reaches adulthood.
\nAnd in this adulthood, he has <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:07,960 –> 00:24:13,640
\npower with God, and he applies
\nthat power with God against the <\/p>\n

321
\n00:24:13,840 –> 00:24:16,200
\nAngel there in verse four.
\nAnd he prevailed. <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:16,200 –> 00:24:18,760
\nCan you see that?
\nSo he starts off holding the <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:18,760 –> 00:24:21,240
\nheel.
\nHe hits this point of maturity. <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:21,280 –> 00:24:24,320
\nHe has power with God, and he
\ndirects that power over the <\/p>\n

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\nAngel.
\nAnd in that wrestling, he <\/p>\n

326
\n00:24:26,880 –> 00:24:35,200
\nprevails against the Angel.
\nSo in his immaturity, he’s a <\/p>\n

327
\n00:24:35,200 –> 00:24:38,720
\nheel catcher.
\nAnd in this wrestling here in <\/p>\n

328
\n00:24:38,720 –> 00:24:44,320
\nHosea chapter 12, he becomes a
\nman because he realises the <\/p>\n

329
\n00:24:44,480 –> 00:24:51,520
\npower, the power only comes from
\nGod. <\/p>\n

330
\n00:24:52,840 –> 00:24:55,040
\nThat’s an important lesson,
\nbrothers and sisters, in our own<\/p>\n

331
\n00:24:55,040 –> 00:25:01,200
\nchallenges in life, the strength
\nonly comes from God. <\/p>\n

332
\n00:25:04,240 –> 00:25:08,480
\nSo the question is then, why
\ncouldn’t the Angel overcome <\/p>\n

333
\n00:25:09,480 –> 00:25:12,920
\nJacob?
\nWell, think what we’re seeing <\/p>\n

334
\n00:25:12,920 –> 00:25:16,880
\nhere in Hosea chapter 12.
\nJacob was locked in prayer. <\/p>\n

335
\n00:25:17,160 –> 00:25:20,560
\nThe effectual fervent prayer of
\na righteous man availeth much <\/p>\n

336
\n00:25:20,560 –> 00:25:25,560
\nJames 5 verse 17.
\nFaith and prayer has the power <\/p>\n

337
\n00:25:25,720 –> 00:25:29,200
\nto move mountains.
\nAnd you can imagine now as Jacob<\/p>\n

338
\n00:25:29,200 –> 00:25:32,680
\nis wrestling with this Angel,
\nJacob is praying to Almighty God<\/p>\n

339
\n00:25:32,800 –> 00:25:35,880
\nthat he overcomes this Angel
\nbecause he wants a blessing. <\/p>\n

340
\n00:25:36,480 –> 00:25:40,200
\nAnd although the Angel is is
\nstrengthened and empowered by <\/p>\n

341
\n00:25:40,200 –> 00:25:44,960
\nAlmighty God himself, God was
\nanswering the prayer of Jacob. <\/p>\n

342
\n00:25:47,320 –> 00:25:53,640
\nThe Angel was powerless,
\nhelpless, incapable of defeating<\/p>\n

343
\n00:25:53,640 –> 00:25:56,400
\nJacob in this moment.
\nIt is an extraordinary moment, <\/p>\n

344
\n00:25:56,400 –> 00:26:00,240
\nbrothers and sisters, an
\nextraordinary moment in time. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:26:03,760 –> 00:26:08,360
\nCome back to Genesis chapter 32.
\nYou might be thinking, well, <\/p>\n

346
\n00:26:09,600 –> 00:26:14,680
\nperhaps the Angel allowed Jacob
\nto prevail. <\/p>\n

347
\n00:26:17,480 –> 00:26:21,480
\nOr look what Scripture says.
\nBrothers and sisters, let’s not <\/p>\n

348
\n00:26:21,480 –> 00:26:25,720
\nuse our own imaginations.
\nLet’s keep close to Scripture. <\/p>\n

349
\n00:26:26,000 –> 00:26:30,560
\nIt doesn’t say that, does it?
\nGenesis 32, verse 55. <\/p>\n

350
\n00:26:30,560 –> 00:26:34,280
\nWe’ll read it again.
\nAnd when the Angel you can put <\/p>\n

351
\n00:26:34,280 –> 00:26:37,080
\nthere instead of he, the Angel,
\nbecause sometimes we get <\/p>\n

352
\n00:26:37,080 –> 00:26:40,440
\nconfused there.
\nAnd when the Angel saw that he <\/p>\n

353
\n00:26:40,440 –> 00:26:48,400
\nprevailed not against Jacob, he
\ntouched the hollow of his thigh.<\/p>\n

354
\n00:26:48,840 –> 00:26:51,120
\nIf you have a look at other
\ntranslations, you’ve got the new<\/p>\n

355
\n00:26:51,120 –> 00:26:54,840
\nLiving Translation.
\nWhen the Angel saw that all he <\/p>\n

356
\n00:26:54,840 –> 00:26:58,440
\nwould not win the match by when
\nthe Angel saw that he prevailed <\/p>\n

357
\n00:26:58,440 –> 00:27:02,080
\nnot the new living translation,
\nhe would not win the match. <\/p>\n

358
\n00:27:02,080 –> 00:27:06,360
\nThe ESP he did not prevail
\nagainst him the net Bible he <\/p>\n

359
\n00:27:06,360 –> 00:27:13,920
\ncould not defeat Jacob.
\nThis was not the Angel letting <\/p>\n

360
\n00:27:13,920 –> 00:27:20,280
\nJacob win.
\nSo here we have after a close <\/p>\n

361
\n00:27:20,280 –> 00:27:25,800
\nmatch, the Angel was forced to
\ndo something to make a move, to <\/p>\n

362
\n00:27:25,800 –> 00:27:31,000
\ncreate an advantage for himself.
\nWe, we, we can see in a way that<\/p>\n

363
\n00:27:31,000 –> 00:27:36,440
\nthe Angel here needed some help
\nas he wrestled against Jacob. <\/p>\n

364
\n00:27:37,360 –> 00:27:43,640
\nAnd so he touched Jacob’s thigh.
\nIt’s literally the socket of his<\/p>\n

365
\n00:27:43,640 –> 00:27:45,440
\nhip.
\nNow think about that. <\/p>\n

366
\n00:27:45,440 –> 00:27:49,040
\nThe the hip is where you get
\nyour mobility and your strength.<\/p>\n

367
\n00:27:49,360 –> 00:27:51,960
\nIt’s in a wrestling match.
\nIt’s the it’s the joint where <\/p>\n

368
\n00:27:51,960 –> 00:27:54,680
\nyou exert pressure on the
\nopponent. <\/p>\n

369
\n00:27:59,200 –> 00:28:03,160
\nAnd so by touching the hollow of
\nhis thigh, it would have been <\/p>\n

370
\n00:28:03,160 –> 00:28:08,360
\nexcruciating for Jacob.
\nHe would have been writhing in <\/p>\n

371
\n00:28:08,360 –> 00:28:11,840
\npain.
\nAnd instantly for the Angel, the<\/p>\n

372
\n00:28:11,840 –> 00:28:16,440
\ntables now are turned.
\nJacob was prevailing against the<\/p>\n

373
\n00:28:16,440 –> 00:28:18,800
\nAngel.
\nAnd so then the Angel needs to <\/p>\n

374
\n00:28:18,800 –> 00:28:22,280
\ntouch the hollow of his thigh to
\ngive an advantage to the Angel. <\/p>\n

375
\n00:28:22,720 –> 00:28:24,680
\nIt’s what’s taking place,
\nbrothers and sisters, it’s <\/p>\n

376
\n00:28:24,680 –> 00:28:28,080
\namazing, it’s astonishing, it’s
\nunbelievable, but it’s true. <\/p>\n

377
\n00:28:35,430 –> 00:28:42,510
\nAnd Jacob now was no match.
\nThe fight was now over. <\/p>\n

378
\n00:28:44,070 –> 00:28:49,960
\nBut this is Jacob, and now Jacob
\nshows unparalleled <\/p>\n

379
\n00:28:49,960 –> 00:28:53,800
\ndetermination.
\nJacob now can’t overcome the <\/p>\n

380
\n00:28:53,800 –> 00:28:56,080
\nAngel, but he’s going to hold
\non. <\/p>\n

381
\n00:28:56,880 –> 00:29:01,640
\nHe’s going to hold on until the
\nAngel blesses him. <\/p>\n

382
\n00:29:03,480 –> 00:29:06,760
\nNow, brothers and sisters, have
\nyou in your own life, when <\/p>\n

383
\n00:29:06,760 –> 00:29:10,480
\nyou’ve been going through life
\nhappily, comfortably, and then <\/p>\n

384
\n00:29:10,480 –> 00:29:15,320
\nsuddenly in your own personal
\ncircumstances, all your strength<\/p>\n

385
\n00:29:15,480 –> 00:29:20,040
\nhas been taken away, that you’ve
\nbeen broken, that you’ve been <\/p>\n

386
\n00:29:20,040 –> 00:29:22,200
\nliterally reduced to nothing
\nunexpectedly. <\/p>\n

387
\n00:29:22,200 –> 00:29:24,480
\nHas that ever happened to you?
\nI’m sure it has. <\/p>\n

388
\n00:29:25,000 –> 00:29:28,080
\nI’m sure it has.
\nAnd, and when we reflect upon <\/p>\n

389
\n00:29:28,080 –> 00:29:31,600
\nthose moments in our own lives,
\nit’s in those moments, isn’t it,<\/p>\n

390
\n00:29:32,040 –> 00:29:34,760
\nthat our true selves are
\nrevealed. <\/p>\n

391
\n00:29:35,040 –> 00:29:37,720
\nIt’s when our true character
\nshines through. <\/p>\n

392
\n00:29:39,520 –> 00:29:42,480
\nAnd the lesson in all of this,
\nbrothers and sisters, Jacob <\/p>\n

393
\n00:29:42,480 –> 00:29:45,080
\ncouldn’t overcome the Angel.
\nThe the, the, the battle, the <\/p>\n

394
\n00:29:45,080 –> 00:29:49,640
\nwrestling match was over,
\nnaturally speaking, but not in <\/p>\n

395
\n00:29:49,640 –> 00:29:54,600
\nJacob’s mind.
\nHe was in excruciating pain. <\/p>\n

396
\n00:29:54,840 –> 00:29:57,040
\nEverything was stacked against
\nthis man. <\/p>\n

397
\n00:29:57,600 –> 00:30:02,640
\nBut he’s holding on now for dear
\nlife until he gets the blessing.<\/p>\n

398
\n00:30:02,800 –> 00:30:04,960
\nThat must be the lesson for you
\nand for me. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:30:04,960 –> 00:30:06,920
\nBrothers and sisters, we’re
\nnever going to overcome an <\/p>\n

400
\n00:30:06,920 –> 00:30:10,120
\nAngel.
\nBut what we can do is hold on <\/p>\n

401
\n00:30:10,120 –> 00:30:14,280
\ntight until we are blessed by
\nGod. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:30:14,880 –> 00:30:18,360
\nThat surely must be the lesson
\nfor us all. <\/p>\n

403
\n00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:21,240
\nAnd and in all of this and in
\nall our challenges in life and <\/p>\n

404
\n00:30:21,240 –> 00:30:26,320
\nwhatever life throws at us, we
\nneed to appreciate all times <\/p>\n

405
\n00:30:29,240 –> 00:30:33,520
\nthat we only have strength and
\npower. <\/p>\n

406
\n00:30:34,280 –> 00:30:42,680
\nWith God, we only have strength
\nand power with God. <\/p>\n

407
\n00:30:45,120 –> 00:30:49,960
\nNow this is such a momentous
\nmoment that the psalmist now <\/p>\n

408
\n00:30:50,080 –> 00:30:53,560
\npicks this up.
\nI just want you to notice a <\/p>\n

409
\n00:30:53,560 –> 00:30:59,680
\nphrase before we go there, Verse
\n25, that Jacob’s thigh, I want <\/p>\n

410
\n00:30:59,680 –> 00:31:08,360
\nyou to remember was the little
\nphrase out of joint, out of <\/p>\n

411
\n00:31:09,080 –> 00:31:11,840
\njoint.
\nLet’s have a look now at Psalm <\/p>\n

412
\n00:31:11,840 –> 00:31:19,760
\n22.
\nThe psalmist here inspired, <\/p>\n

413
\n00:31:20,040 –> 00:31:23,680
\nguided by the Spirit, picks up,
\nI believe, the wrestling match <\/p>\n

414
\n00:31:23,920 –> 00:31:30,160
\nof Jacob with the Angel and now
\napplies it to the Lord Jesus <\/p>\n

415
\n00:31:30,360 –> 00:31:33,280
\nChrist.
\nLook at these words here Psalm <\/p>\n

416
\n00:31:33,520 –> 00:31:38,280
\n22, the messianic Psalm begin
\nthere in verse one. <\/p>\n

417
\n00:31:38,280 –> 00:31:40,280
\nMy God, my God, why hast thou
\nforsaken me? <\/p>\n

418
\n00:31:40,280 –> 00:31:45,040
\nThe whole Psalm is is littered
\nwith with messianic references. <\/p>\n

419
\n00:31:45,360 –> 00:31:51,480
\nBut where I’d like to look at is
\nverse 14 personal pronoun. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:31:51,480 –> 00:31:59,320
\nHere I am poured out like water
\nand all my bones are out of <\/p>\n

421
\n00:32:00,040 –> 00:32:03,320
\njoint.
\nMy heart is like wax. <\/p>\n

422
\n00:32:03,840 –> 00:32:07,280
\nIt is melted in the midst of my
\nbowels. <\/p>\n

423
\n00:32:08,320 –> 00:32:12,560
\nSo we’ve got the same phrase
\nhere, out of joint. <\/p>\n

424
\n00:32:14,280 –> 00:32:17,640
\nBut there’s something incredibly
\nsignificant about this because <\/p>\n

425
\n00:32:17,720 –> 00:32:23,320
\nout of joint with the Angel and
\nJacob, the out of joint in the <\/p>\n

426
\n00:32:23,320 –> 00:32:26,640
\nHebrew simply means to be
\ndislocated. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:32:27,840 –> 00:32:34,640
\nSo his thigh was dislocated,
\nexcruciating, painful, but it <\/p>\n

428
\n00:32:34,640 –> 00:32:38,640
\nwas dislocated.
\nBut brothers and sisters, when <\/p>\n

429
\n00:32:38,640 –> 00:32:42,480
\nthe psalmist picks up, I believe
\nthe wrestling of Jacob, he <\/p>\n

430
\n00:32:42,480 –> 00:32:47,400
\napplies now guided by the
\nSpirit, a much stronger Hebrew <\/p>\n

431
\n00:32:47,400 –> 00:32:50,760
\nword to describe the wrestling
\nof our Lord. <\/p>\n

432
\n00:32:51,320 –> 00:32:57,720
\nBecause out of joint here in
\nPsalm 22 is to separate and to <\/p>\n

433
\n00:32:57,720 –> 00:33:01,520
\ndivide.
\nNot, not at all to be <\/p>\n

434
\n00:33:01,520 –> 00:33:08,800
\ndislocated, but to separate, to
\nbreak away. <\/p>\n

435
\n00:33:13,160 –> 00:33:15,760
\nSo for our Lord, it wasn’t out
\nof joint. <\/p>\n

436
\n00:33:15,840 –> 00:33:20,920
\nIt’s as if although we know that
\nnot a bone was broken to fulfill<\/p>\n

437
\n00:33:20,920 –> 00:33:29,160
\nthe Passover lamb, the pain for
\nour Lord was if every single <\/p>\n

438
\n00:33:29,480 –> 00:33:36,960
\nbone was broken.
\nThat was the feeling of our Lord<\/p>\n

439
\n00:33:37,920 –> 00:33:40,960
\nas He wrestled.
\nHe gave everything. <\/p>\n

440
\n00:33:42,560 –> 00:33:46,280
\nThe whole idea is that every
\nbone was broken from another. <\/p>\n

441
\n00:33:47,840 –> 00:33:49,520
\nThink of that, brothers and
\nsisters. <\/p>\n

442
\n00:33:49,840 –> 00:33:53,840
\nAnd there’s a real play here
\nbecause it says there I am <\/p>\n

443
\n00:33:53,840 –> 00:34:01,200
\npoured out, and the meaning of
\nthe name Jabok is to pour here <\/p>\n

444
\n00:34:01,920 –> 00:34:07,640
\nin this moment in verse 14 was
\nour Lord’s Jabok moment. <\/p>\n

445
\n00:34:09,040 –> 00:34:13,480
\nNow look at this.
\nCome with me to Hebrews chapter <\/p>\n

446
\n00:34:13,480 –> 00:34:19,600
\n5 now.
\nAnd suddenly these words that we<\/p>\n

447
\n00:34:19,600 –> 00:34:23,719
\nknow familiar, we can see how
\nthey are rooted in the life of <\/p>\n

448
\n00:34:23,719 –> 00:34:28,480
\nJacob.
\nHebrews 5 verse 7, concerning <\/p>\n

449
\n00:34:28,480 –> 00:34:33,600
\nthe Lord, who in the days of His
\nflesh, when He had offered up <\/p>\n

450
\n00:34:33,600 –> 00:34:37,880
\nprayers and supplications, with
\nstrong crying and tears unto <\/p>\n

451
\n00:34:37,880 –> 00:34:40,880
\nHim, that was able to save him
\nfrom death, and was heard in <\/p>\n

452
\n00:34:40,880 –> 00:34:43,080
\nthat He feared.
\nAnd you can put right by there <\/p>\n

453
\n00:34:43,159 –> 00:34:47,239
\nverse 7, Hosea 12, verse 4,
\nwhere it says He prevailed <\/p>\n

454
\n00:34:47,360 –> 00:34:51,840
\nJacob, He prevailed, He wept and
\nmade supplication unto him. <\/p>\n

455
\n00:34:51,840 –> 00:34:54,639
\nCan you see that the writers of
\nthe Hebrews now picks up the <\/p>\n

456
\n00:34:54,639 –> 00:34:57,600
\nJacob moment?
\nAnd the way that Jacob contended<\/p>\n

457
\n00:34:57,600 –> 00:35:01,000
\nwith the Angel with prayers and
\nsupplication and tears is <\/p>\n

458
\n00:35:01,000 –> 00:35:05,840
\nexactly the experience of our
\nLord throughout his life, <\/p>\n

459
\n00:35:08,080 –> 00:35:12,240
\nthroughout his life.
\nSo that when he died, the <\/p>\n

460
\n00:35:12,240 –> 00:35:18,520
\nfeeling within him was that
\nevery bone had been broken, the <\/p>\n

461
\n00:35:18,520 –> 00:35:24,040
\nsacrifice was complete.
\nHe had given all for you and for<\/p>\n

462
\n00:35:24,040 –> 00:35:25,640
\nme.
\nIsn’t that amazing, brothers and<\/p>\n

463
\n00:35:25,640 –> 00:35:28,000
\nsisters?
\nIsn’t that absolutely <\/p>\n

464
\n00:35:28,000 –> 00:35:32,880
\nastonishing?
\nAnd so the words then that we <\/p>\n

465
\n00:35:32,880 –> 00:35:38,480
\nhear each Sunday take eat, this
\nis my body which is broken for <\/p>\n

466
\n00:35:38,480 –> 00:35:40,440
\nyou.
\nSuddenly, I believe that makes <\/p>\n

467
\n00:35:40,440 –> 00:35:42,360
\nsense, isn’t it?
\nWhich was broken for you. <\/p>\n

468
\n00:35:42,360 –> 00:35:47,560
\nAnd we think the Lord’s body
\nwasn’t broken, but it was. <\/p>\n

469
\n00:35:49,200 –> 00:35:56,160
\nIt was in terms of how the Lord
\nfelt that every bone he felt had<\/p>\n

470
\n00:35:56,160 –> 00:35:59,640
\nbeen broken in that Jacob
\nexperience. <\/p>\n

471
\n00:35:59,640 –> 00:36:06,000
\nBrothers and sisters, isn’t this
\nso moving and so humbling that <\/p>\n

472
\n00:36:06,000 –> 00:36:09,240
\nour Lord did this for you and
\nfor me? <\/p>\n

473
\n00:36:11,600 –> 00:36:13,800
\nCome back then to Genesis
\nchapter 32. <\/p>\n

474
\n00:36:16,160 –> 00:36:18,760
\nSo we left Jacob here wrestling
\nwith an Angel. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:36:19,440 –> 00:36:22,880
\nHis hip is outer joint.
\nHe’s in excruciating pain, but <\/p>\n

476
\n00:36:22,880 –> 00:36:25,760
\nhe’s holding on his Jacob, He’s
\nnot letting go. <\/p>\n

477
\n00:36:26,360 –> 00:36:31,560
\nVerse 26 So now the Angel,
\nalthough the Angel has an <\/p>\n

478
\n00:36:31,560 –> 00:36:34,440
\nadvantage, he now can’t let go
\nof Jacob. <\/p>\n

479
\n00:36:36,200 –> 00:36:38,480
\nVerse 26, the Angel said let me
\ngo. <\/p>\n

480
\n00:36:38,480 –> 00:36:42,240
\nCan you see this, that there’s a
\nfeeling here, there’s a sense of<\/p>\n

481
\n00:36:42,240 –> 00:36:46,840
\nanxiety with the Angel that the
\nday was breaking, this battle <\/p>\n

482
\n00:36:46,840 –> 00:36:48,800
\nwas over as far as the Angel was
\nconcerned. <\/p>\n

483
\n00:36:48,920 –> 00:36:52,520
\nBut Jacob was holding on and the
\nAngel couldn’t do anything about<\/p>\n

484
\n00:36:52,520 –> 00:36:55,080
\nit.
\nThat was the determination of <\/p>\n

485
\n00:36:55,080 –> 00:36:57,760
\nthis man.
\nLet me go, says the Angel for <\/p>\n

486
\n00:36:57,760 –> 00:36:59,320
\nthe daybreaker.
\nCan you see this? <\/p>\n

487
\n00:36:59,480 –> 00:37:02,080
\nThis is not this is not the the
\nwords of an Angel that we would <\/p>\n

488
\n00:37:02,080 –> 00:37:08,760
\nexpect, but it was true.
\nAnd Jacob said, I will not let <\/p>\n

489
\n00:37:08,760 –> 00:37:15,880
\nthee go except thou bless me.
\nSo even with a dislocated hip, <\/p>\n

490
\n00:37:16,680 –> 00:37:22,440
\nJacob wasn’t letting go.
\nThe Angel wasn’t getting his own<\/p>\n

491
\n00:37:22,440 –> 00:37:26,640
\nway, was he?
\nBrothers and sisters, the Angel <\/p>\n

492
\n00:37:26,640 –> 00:37:30,200
\nwanted to stop.
\nAnd why did the Angel want to <\/p>\n

493
\n00:37:30,200 –> 00:37:33,800
\nstop?
\nBecause Hosea Chapter 12 tells <\/p>\n

494
\n00:37:33,800 –> 00:37:39,480
\nus that when the Angel looked at
\nJacob, the wrestling had changed<\/p>\n

495
\n00:37:39,480 –> 00:37:44,360
\nhim.
\nHe’d gone from an an infant to <\/p>\n

496
\n00:37:44,360 –> 00:37:49,400
\nan adult in the wrestling during
\nthat night, he had reached <\/p>\n

497
\n00:37:49,520 –> 00:37:53,920
\nmanhood and for the Angel, his
\nwork was over. <\/p>\n

498
\n00:37:55,080 –> 00:37:58,360
\nBut for Jacob, there was more to
\ngo. <\/p>\n

499
\n00:37:59,720 –> 00:38:02,160
\nNow when you reflect upon that
\nand you you see now that the <\/p>\n

500
\n00:38:02,160 –> 00:38:05,440
\nAngel wanted to stop and and
\nJacob wanted to continue. <\/p>\n

501
\n00:38:05,440 –> 00:38:11,080
\nYou can see here that in one
\ncontest during a long night, <\/p>\n

502
\n00:38:11,720 –> 00:38:13,240
\nthere’s 2 battles that are going
\non. <\/p>\n

503
\n00:38:13,360 –> 00:38:14,480
\nHave you ever reflected upon
\nthis? <\/p>\n

504
\n00:38:14,480 –> 00:38:16,080
\nThere’s actually 2 battles that
\nare going on. <\/p>\n

505
\n00:38:16,520 –> 00:38:22,160
\nThat the Angel is wrestling with
\nJacob so that the Angel can <\/p>\n

506
\n00:38:22,160 –> 00:38:28,360
\nchange the character of Jacob.
\nAnd when the Angel sees that he <\/p>\n

507
\n00:38:28,360 –> 00:38:31,960
\nreaches adulthood, that he’s
\nfully mature, that no longer is <\/p>\n

508
\n00:38:31,960 –> 00:38:35,640
\nhe holding onto the heel of
\nEsau, the Angel wants to stop. <\/p>\n

509
\n00:38:35,880 –> 00:38:37,720
\nHis mission is complete.
\nCan you see that? <\/p>\n

510
\n00:38:40,200 –> 00:38:42,360
\nBut there was another battle
\ngoing on. <\/p>\n

511
\n00:38:43,040 –> 00:38:46,600
\nJacob was wrestling with an
\nAngel. <\/p>\n

512
\n00:38:47,480 –> 00:38:51,200
\nAnd why was Jacob wrestling?
\nBecause he wanted to receive the<\/p>\n

513
\n00:38:51,200 –> 00:38:52,680
\nblessing.
\nNow, brothers and sisters, <\/p>\n

514
\n00:38:52,760 –> 00:38:54,960
\nthat’s a very important lesson
\nfor you and for me. <\/p>\n

515
\n00:38:56,600 –> 00:39:01,760
\nGod works with us in our lives,
\nin our challenges, and in our <\/p>\n

516
\n00:39:01,760 –> 00:39:07,800
\nproblems to change our character
\nand we ought to hold on in that <\/p>\n

517
\n00:39:07,800 –> 00:39:13,080
\nexperience, hold on for dear
\nlife, however hard that <\/p>\n

518
\n00:39:13,080 –> 00:39:16,800
\nexperience is in order to
\nreceive the blessing. <\/p>\n

519
\n00:39:16,800 –> 00:39:18,800
\nCan you see that?
\nIt’s a two way thing. <\/p>\n

520
\n00:39:20,560 –> 00:39:23,520
\nWhen our characters are being
\nchanged, it’s painful. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:39:24,120 –> 00:39:29,280
\nAnd the lesson in all of this is
\nto hold on, to look past the <\/p>\n

522
\n00:39:29,280 –> 00:39:36,630
\npain.
\nA little surprising. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:39:36,630 –> 00:39:43,720
\nThen in verse 27, you read these
\nwords and he said unto him, the <\/p>\n

524
\n00:39:43,720 –> 00:39:48,760
\nAngel, what is thy name?
\nAnd he said Jacob. <\/p>\n

525
\n00:39:48,760 –> 00:39:52,120
\nNow just imagine that in in the
\nmiddle of the the wrestling <\/p>\n

526
\n00:39:52,120 –> 00:39:56,200
\nmatch, Jacob’s adversary here
\nthe the Angel, this mighty Angel<\/p>\n

527
\n00:39:56,200 –> 00:40:01,800
\nsaid something really odd.
\nHe asks a Jacob, what is your <\/p>\n

528
\n00:40:01,800 –> 00:40:04,360
\nname now?
\nNow the Angel knew Jacob, didn’t<\/p>\n

529
\n00:40:04,360 –> 00:40:05,880
\nhe?
\nHe’d been with Jacob for 20 <\/p>\n

530
\n00:40:05,880 –> 00:40:09,320
\nyears.
\nIt was most unconventional, <\/p>\n

531
\n00:40:09,320 –> 00:40:10,680
\nwasn’t it?
\nHe’d fought all night. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:40:10,680 –> 00:40:15,800
\nAnd now Jacob, his hips out of
\nout of joint, his heart is, is <\/p>\n

533
\n00:40:15,800 –> 00:40:17,880
\nbursting, his legs are
\nunbearable. <\/p>\n

534
\n00:40:17,880 –> 00:40:20,880
\nHe’s his arms are numb.
\nHe’s been wrestling with an <\/p>\n

535
\n00:40:20,880 –> 00:40:25,080
\nAngel all night long.
\nAnd then out of that moment, the<\/p>\n

536
\n00:40:25,080 –> 00:40:30,720
\nAngel has the audacity to ask
\nJacob politely. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:40:31,000 –> 00:40:40,920
\nExcuse me, what is your name?
\nWhy, brothers and sisters, this <\/p>\n

538
\n00:40:41,160 –> 00:40:46,520
\nis where it happens.
\nIt’s not an unusual moment. <\/p>\n

539
\n00:40:46,520 –> 00:40:50,040
\nIt’s a development of a
\nstoryboard. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:40:50,360 –> 00:40:54,120
\nCan we have a look back to
\nchapter 27, Chapter 27, as I I <\/p>\n

541
\n00:40:54,120 –> 00:40:57,280
\nmentioned yesterday, was going
\nto cast a long shadow over <\/p>\n

542
\n00:40:57,280 –> 00:41:01,640
\nJacob’s life when he stole, he
\nrobbed Esau of the blessing. <\/p>\n

543
\n00:41:01,760 –> 00:41:05,120
\nAnd remember, and I emphasized
\nand I told you to take note of <\/p>\n

544
\n00:41:05,120 –> 00:41:09,320
\nit yesterday, that Jacob lied
\ntwice, didn’t he? <\/p>\n

545
\n00:41:09,800 –> 00:41:18,120
\nVerse 19 when when Isaac, when
\nhis curiosity was aroused, he <\/p>\n

546
\n00:41:18,120 –> 00:41:24,000
\nwas asked, verse 18 Who art
\nthou, my son? <\/p>\n

547
\n00:41:24,640 –> 00:41:30,880
\nWhat is your name?
\nVerse 19 I am Esau. <\/p>\n

548
\n00:41:34,280 –> 00:41:38,600
\nVerse 24 Art thou my very son
\nEsau? <\/p>\n

549
\n00:41:38,760 –> 00:41:44,240
\nWhat is your name?
\nAnd he said, I am. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:41:46,640 –> 00:41:51,440
\nCan you see what’s happening?
\nThe very same question is being <\/p>\n

551
\n00:41:51,440 –> 00:41:55,000
\nasked of Jacob in the middle of
\nthe wrestling match. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:41:56,000 –> 00:42:02,000
\nWhat is your name?
\nAnd when that question was asked<\/p>\n

553
\n00:42:02,000 –> 00:42:11,400
\nbefore Jacob received the
\nblessing of his father and he <\/p>\n

554
\n00:42:11,400 –> 00:42:18,160
\ndeceived his father, and in
\norder to receive the blessing of<\/p>\n

555
\n00:42:18,160 –> 00:42:23,600
\nGod, how is he going to answer
\nnow? <\/p>\n

556
\n00:42:25,520 –> 00:42:30,320
\nAnd he has to answer, he has to
\nreveal his name in order to <\/p>\n

557
\n00:42:30,320 –> 00:42:39,520
\nreceive the blessing.
\nAnd he says, I am Jacob. <\/p>\n

558
\n00:42:42,520 –> 00:42:47,640
\nI’m a heel catcher.
\nI have held onto my brother’s <\/p>\n

559
\n00:42:47,640 –> 00:42:54,960
\nheel all my life and now I’m a
\nman. <\/p>\n

560
\n00:42:57,080 –> 00:43:01,360
\nI have maturity.
\nI have power. <\/p>\n

561
\n00:43:01,360 –> 00:43:08,080
\nWith God, I’m a cripple.
\nI can no longer run from the <\/p>\n

562
\n00:43:08,080 –> 00:43:12,400
\nface of Esau.
\nI am Jacob. <\/p>\n

563
\n00:43:12,520 –> 00:43:16,520
\nCan you see that in order for
\nhim to receive the blessing, he <\/p>\n

564
\n00:43:16,520 –> 00:43:20,360
\nhas to renounce Esau?
\nRemember, he was the twin. <\/p>\n

565
\n00:43:20,440 –> 00:43:24,040
\nHe had Esau within him.
\nAnd then when he he deceives his<\/p>\n

566
\n00:43:24,040 –> 00:43:30,640
\nfather, he says I am Esau.
\nBut now after the wrestling, I’m<\/p>\n

567
\n00:43:30,640 –> 00:43:34,120
\nno longer Esau.
\nI’ve let go of the heel. <\/p>\n

568
\n00:43:35,000 –> 00:43:39,800
\nI am Jacob.
\nI am the heel catcher. <\/p>\n

569
\n00:43:41,680 –> 00:43:45,120
\nI am the one who is not fully
\nmade like my brother. <\/p>\n

570
\n00:43:45,840 –> 00:43:50,440
\nI am the one who is made in your
\nstrength. <\/p>\n

571
\n00:43:52,480 –> 00:43:54,080
\nIsn’t that wonderful, brothers
\nand sisters? <\/p>\n

572
\n00:43:54,080 –> 00:43:55,960
\nSo moving.
\nIt caught me just a moment <\/p>\n

573
\n00:43:55,960 –> 00:43:58,720
\nthere.
\nJust so incredibly moving. <\/p>\n

574
\n00:43:58,720 –> 00:44:02,040
\nIt was a, it was an open
\nconfession, wasn’t it? <\/p>\n

575
\n00:44:02,440 –> 00:44:05,520
\nI’m Jacob.
\nI’m a mast. <\/p>\n

576
\n00:44:06,720 –> 00:44:10,600
\nI’ve always been Jacob.
\nI’ve always been a heel catcher.<\/p>\n

577
\n00:44:10,800 –> 00:44:12,840
\nI’ve always been running from
\nthe face of Esau. <\/p>\n

578
\n00:44:15,280 –> 00:44:22,040
\nThat’s who I am.
\nI am nothing, he was saying. <\/p>\n

579
\n00:44:23,440 –> 00:44:26,120
\nNow.
\nIt’s in that moment that <\/p>\n

580
\n00:44:26,120 –> 00:44:31,000
\neverything happens to Jacob.
\nNotice this as soon as he <\/p>\n

581
\n00:44:31,000 –> 00:44:34,520
\nconfesses who he is.
\nWhat is your name? <\/p>\n

582
\n00:44:36,240 –> 00:44:43,040
\nVerse 28 And he said, can you
\nsee that suddenly as soon as he <\/p>\n

583
\n00:44:43,040 –> 00:44:47,640
\nconfesses who he is, God now can
\nwork with him. <\/p>\n

584
\n00:44:49,080 –> 00:44:52,480
\nThy name shall be called no
\nmore, Jacob. <\/p>\n

585
\n00:44:53,080 –> 00:44:55,520
\nI am a heel catcher.
\nHe’s just acclaimed. <\/p>\n

586
\n00:44:55,520 –> 00:45:02,280
\nNo, no, no, no, says the Angel.
\nThy name now shall be called no <\/p>\n

587
\n00:45:02,280 –> 00:45:07,520
\nmore, Jacob.
\nYou’ve hit maturity, says Hosea,<\/p>\n

588
\n00:45:07,520 –> 00:45:10,920
\nchapter 12.
\nYou now have power with God. <\/p>\n

589
\n00:45:11,600 –> 00:45:16,320
\nThe work of the wrestling Angel
\nwas complete. <\/p>\n

590
\n00:45:17,200 –> 00:45:22,280
\nFor as a Prince hast thou power
\nwith God and with men hast <\/p>\n

591
\n00:45:23,040 –> 00:45:28,600
\nprevailed, so he now bears the
\nname of Israel. <\/p>\n

592
\n00:45:28,600 –> 00:45:30,640
\nSo important, brothers and
\nsisters, this is the first <\/p>\n

593
\n00:45:30,640 –> 00:45:35,560
\nmention of the name Israel in
\nScripture, the first mention of <\/p>\n

594
\n00:45:35,560 –> 00:45:39,360
\nthe name Israel in Scripture.
\nAnd it’s after this wrestling <\/p>\n

595
\n00:45:39,360 –> 00:45:43,960
\nmatch with the Angel.
\nNow, given that we believe in <\/p>\n

596
\n00:45:43,960 –> 00:45:48,360
\nthe hope of Israel, I think
\nsometimes we get confused with <\/p>\n

597
\n00:45:48,360 –> 00:45:51,600
\nthe meaning of the name Israel.
\nAnd it’s not surprising, is it, <\/p>\n

598
\n00:45:51,720 –> 00:45:53,960
\nthat we’re a little confused
\nwith the meaning of the name <\/p>\n

599
\n00:45:53,960 –> 00:45:57,800
\nIsrael because verse 2028 is not
\nentirely clear, is it? <\/p>\n

600
\n00:45:58,960 –> 00:46:02,280
\nSo just look at different
\ntranslations on the screen here.<\/p>\n

601
\n00:46:03,760 –> 00:46:07,120
\nSo the new King James Version
\nsays your name shall no longer <\/p>\n

602
\n00:46:07,120 –> 00:46:09,960
\nbe called Jacob, but Israel.
\nWhy? <\/p>\n

603
\n00:46:10,160 –> 00:46:13,440
\nFor you are struggled with God
\nand with men and have prevailed.<\/p>\n

604
\n00:46:15,480 –> 00:46:18,600
\nAnd then the the new living
\ntranslation has these words. <\/p>\n

605
\n00:46:18,640 –> 00:46:22,360
\nFrom now on you will be called
\nIsrael because you have fought <\/p>\n

606
\n00:46:22,360 –> 00:46:25,760
\nwith God and with men and have
\nwon. <\/p>\n

607
\n00:46:26,920 –> 00:46:31,400
\nOK, just just think about those
\ndifferent renderings there. <\/p>\n

608
\n00:46:33,680 –> 00:46:38,560
\nLook in your margin in chapter
\n32 and verse 28 by the name <\/p>\n

609
\n00:46:38,680 –> 00:46:40,360
\nIsrael.
\nAs I mentioned, that’s the first<\/p>\n

610
\n00:46:40,360 –> 00:46:44,200
\ntime and you can see in your
\nmargin, and perhaps this is the <\/p>\n

611
\n00:46:44,200 –> 00:46:46,200
\nreason why it triggers some
\nconfusion. <\/p>\n

612
\n00:46:46,200 –> 00:46:48,040
\nYou’ve got, you’ve got two
\nmeanings there, haven’t you? <\/p>\n

613
\n00:46:48,160 –> 00:46:52,560
\nBy the name Israel, you’ve got a
\nPrince with God or a striver <\/p>\n

614
\n00:46:52,560 –> 00:46:55,320
\nwith God and they feel very
\ndifferent things, don’t they? <\/p>\n

615
\n00:46:55,320 –> 00:46:58,160
\nA Prince with God and a striver
\nwith God. <\/p>\n

616
\n00:46:58,160 –> 00:47:03,080
\nBut perhaps we can think of this
\nin a dual way, that the lesson <\/p>\n

617
\n00:47:03,080 –> 00:47:12,160
\nin Jacob’s life was that if you
\nstrive with God in faith, then <\/p>\n

618
\n00:47:12,160 –> 00:47:15,680
\nyou will become a Prince with
\nGod. <\/p>\n

619
\n00:47:16,680 –> 00:47:22,360
\nSo if we in the present strive
\nwith God, then we will be a <\/p>\n

620
\n00:47:22,360 –> 00:47:24,840
\nPrince with God.
\nSo in fact, rather than two <\/p>\n

621
\n00:47:25,160 –> 00:47:29,800
\nseparate meanings, it’s a
\ndevelopment, it’s a progression,<\/p>\n

622
\n00:47:30,640 –> 00:47:34,880
\nit’s a narrative of our lives.
\nIf we strive, then we will <\/p>\n

623
\n00:47:34,880 –> 00:47:39,280
\nbecome a Prince.
\nBut I think there’s something <\/p>\n

624
\n00:47:39,280 –> 00:47:43,120
\neven more beautiful than that.
\nAs you, as I said, if you look <\/p>\n

625
\n00:47:43,120 –> 00:47:46,760
\nin your margin there, Israel’s
\nname means striver with God. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:47:46,760 –> 00:47:50,400
\nJust just see that in your
\nmargin, striver with God. <\/p>\n

627
\n00:47:50,800 –> 00:47:53,280
\nAnd the explanation is given in
\nthe verse there. <\/p>\n

628
\n00:47:53,520 –> 00:47:58,400
\nYou have fought with God and
\nwith men and have prevailed. <\/p>\n

629
\n00:47:59,240 –> 00:48:04,200
\nYou have fought with God and
\nwith men and have prevailed. <\/p>\n

630
\n00:48:09,360 –> 00:48:13,120
\nThink about what we’ve just seen
\nin Jacob, and I believe this is <\/p>\n

631
\n00:48:13,120 –> 00:48:20,360
\nthe meaning of the name Israel.
\nIf you wrestle with God in <\/p>\n

632
\n00:48:20,360 –> 00:48:26,600
\nfaith, you will prevail against
\nworldly foes. <\/p>\n

633
\n00:48:26,680 –> 00:48:30,160
\nI’m going to repeat that because
\nI believe this is the meaning of<\/p>\n

634
\n00:48:30,160 –> 00:48:33,560
\nthe name Israel, something so
\nfundamental to us as followers <\/p>\n

635
\n00:48:33,560 –> 00:48:37,160
\nof the Lord Jesus Christ.
\nIf you wrestle with God in <\/p>\n

636
\n00:48:37,160 –> 00:48:43,960
\nfaith, then you will prevail
\nagainst the enemies and the foes<\/p>\n

637
\n00:48:44,040 –> 00:48:47,720
\nof God.
\nNow, if that’s the case, and I <\/p>\n

638
\n00:48:47,720 –> 00:48:50,360
\nbelieve that is the case, I
\nbelieve that is at the heart the<\/p>\n

639
\n00:48:50,360 –> 00:48:53,240
\nmeaning of the name Israel.
\nThink about that. <\/p>\n

640
\n00:48:53,240 –> 00:48:56,320
\nWhat’s taking place if you
\nwrestle with God and then you <\/p>\n

641
\n00:48:56,320 –> 00:48:59,400
\nprevail against the enemies?
\nBut what’s going on? <\/p>\n

642
\n00:49:00,120 –> 00:49:03,000
\nHow can you wrestle with God and
\nthen prevail against the <\/p>\n

643
\n00:49:03,000 –> 00:49:04,480
\nenemies?
\nWhat’s the picture, Brothers and<\/p>\n

644
\n00:49:04,480 –> 00:49:06,440
\nsisters, have you ever thought
\nabout this? <\/p>\n

645
\n00:49:06,560 –> 00:49:10,120
\nWhat’s the picture here of the
\nmeaning of the name Israel? <\/p>\n

646
\n00:49:10,320 –> 00:49:14,880
\nIt is a picture of a father and
\nson. <\/p>\n

647
\n00:49:16,680 –> 00:49:20,880
\nWe’ve all seen how a father can
\ntoughen up a son or a daughter <\/p>\n

648
\n00:49:20,880 –> 00:49:24,280
\nwith a little bit of wrestling.
\nThat’s the whole picture here. <\/p>\n

649
\n00:49:24,880 –> 00:49:28,360
\nIt’s this really beautiful,
\nintimate picture of a father <\/p>\n

650
\n00:49:28,360 –> 00:49:35,200
\nwrestling not to, not to defeat
\nthe child, not to hurt the <\/p>\n

651
\n00:49:35,200 –> 00:49:41,360
\nchild, but to strengthen the
\nchild for the real battles <\/p>\n

652
\n00:49:41,720 –> 00:49:43,160
\nagainst the enemies.
\nCan you see that? <\/p>\n

653
\n00:49:43,280 –> 00:49:46,480
\nIsn’t that lovely?
\nThat’s the meaning of the name <\/p>\n

654
\n00:49:46,480 –> 00:49:50,040
\nIsrael.
\nOur experiences in life with <\/p>\n

655
\n00:49:50,040 –> 00:49:55,520
\nGod, our wrestling with the
\nAngel, is to strengthen us in <\/p>\n

656
\n00:49:55,520 –> 00:50:00,560
\nfaith, in order that we can
\nreally battle against the <\/p>\n

657
\n00:50:00,600 –> 00:50:03,960
\nenemies of God.
\nAnd so then Israel at the heart,<\/p>\n

658
\n00:50:03,960 –> 00:50:11,720
\nat the centre is all about being
\na child of God, being a child of<\/p>\n

659
\n00:50:11,720 –> 00:50:21,680
\nGod, and how God wrestles with
\nus in order that we will win, in<\/p>\n

660
\n00:50:21,680 –> 00:50:25,880
\norder that we will win.
\nWe might not feel like that at <\/p>\n

661
\n00:50:25,880 –> 00:50:31,800
\nthe time, but God has got the
\ntrue perspective of our lives <\/p>\n

662
\n00:50:32,200 –> 00:50:37,800
\nand winning is all about being
\ngranted God’s coming Kingdom. <\/p>\n

663
\n00:50:38,480 –> 00:50:42,160
\nNow the theme of this week is
\nall about the faces, all about <\/p>\n

664
\n00:50:42,160 –> 00:50:45,080
\nthe faces.
\nAnd so then verse 30, at the end<\/p>\n

665
\n00:50:45,080 –> 00:50:51,920
\nof this wrestling and receiving
\nthis blessing, Jacob called the <\/p>\n

666
\n00:50:51,920 –> 00:50:57,880
\nname of the place Peniel.
\nFor I have seen God face to face<\/p>\n

667
\n00:50:57,880 –> 00:51:01,680
\nand my life is preserved.
\nNow look again in your margin, <\/p>\n

668
\n00:51:01,680 –> 00:51:04,640
\nplease, by the name Peniel,
\nyou’ll see the face of God. <\/p>\n

669
\n00:51:04,640 –> 00:51:06,560
\nAnd that’s part of our theme,
\nthe face of God. <\/p>\n

670
\n00:51:06,840 –> 00:51:15,240
\nAnd so in that wrestling, in
\nthat wrestling, Jacob saw the <\/p>\n

671
\n00:51:15,240 –> 00:51:19,560
\nface of God.
\nBut it goes a step further <\/p>\n

672
\n00:51:19,560 –> 00:51:22,200
\nbecause that’s not entirely
\naccurate. <\/p>\n

673
\n00:51:22,200 –> 00:51:27,960
\nYour margin hasn’t got it
\nentirely right because Penny L <\/p>\n

674
\n00:51:29,040 –> 00:51:37,840
\nis 2 root words.
\nPen is to turn and L God. <\/p>\n

675
\n00:51:40,280 –> 00:51:50,880
\nPen is to turn and L is God.
\nSo the wrestling caused Jacob to<\/p>\n

676
\n00:51:50,920 –> 00:52:00,440
\nturn his head, see that he went
\nthere seeing the face of Esau, <\/p>\n

677
\n00:52:01,840 –> 00:52:08,160
\nand the wrestling turned his
\nhead to face God. <\/p>\n

678
\n00:52:09,280 –> 00:52:11,800
\nAnd so Penny L means the face of
\nGod because at the end of the <\/p>\n

679
\n00:52:11,800 –> 00:52:14,400
\nprocess, when you turn your head
\nto face God, that’s what you’re <\/p>\n

680
\n00:52:14,400 –> 00:52:15,400
\ndoing.
\nYou’re facing God. <\/p>\n

681
\n00:52:15,480 –> 00:52:16,720
\nIsn’t that lovely, Brothers and
\nsisters? <\/p>\n

682
\n00:52:16,760 –> 00:52:18,240
\nThat’s what it’s all about,
\nisn’t it? <\/p>\n

683
\n00:52:18,480 –> 00:52:21,600
\nThat’s what our wrestling is, so
\nthat we can see our Maker and we<\/p>\n

684
\n00:52:21,600 –> 00:52:23,960
\ncan see the Lord Jesus Christ in
\nour lives. <\/p>\n

685
\n00:52:24,120 –> 00:52:29,480
\nThat’s what it’s all about for
\nyou and for me, so that we too <\/p>\n

686
\n00:52:29,480 –> 00:52:34,200
\ncan find Penny L, that we can
\nturn our faces from our <\/p>\n

687
\n00:52:34,200 –> 00:52:38,320
\nadversaries and all the things
\nthat are causing us trouble, and<\/p>\n

688
\n00:52:38,320 –> 00:52:42,320
\nwe can see God working in our
\nlives. <\/p>\n

689
\n00:52:46,920 –> 00:52:54,200
\nThat morning, Jacob found
\nhimself to be a cripple for <\/p>\n

690
\n00:52:54,200 –> 00:52:57,760
\nlife.
\nHe was always going to limp. <\/p>\n

691
\n00:52:58,440 –> 00:53:01,960
\nAnd brothers and sisters, our
\ncrises are real. <\/p>\n

692
\n00:53:03,120 –> 00:53:09,000
\nOur suffering and the deep cuts,
\nthey hurt and they are painful, <\/p>\n

693
\n00:53:10,240 –> 00:53:16,160
\nand when the sun rises it bears
\nour scars. <\/p>\n

694
\n00:53:17,520 –> 00:53:24,560
\nBut for Jacob that morning they
\nwere honourable scars because <\/p>\n

695
\n00:53:24,560 –> 00:53:28,960
\nJacob that night had fought
\nbravely, hadn’t he? <\/p>\n

696
\n00:53:29,320 –> 00:53:33,360
\nHe had fought bravely and won in
\nGod’s strength. <\/p>\n

697
\n00:53:34,720 –> 00:53:37,520
\nAnd so, brothers and sisters,
\nthen at the end of this talk <\/p>\n

698
\n00:53:37,520 –> 00:53:41,160
\ntoday, what is the big lesson
\nfor you and for me? <\/p>\n

699
\n00:53:41,320 –> 00:53:47,080
\nIt’s only when we admit to our
\nGod that we are heel catchers, <\/p>\n

700
\n00:53:48,480 –> 00:53:54,240
\nthat we are nothing, that we are
\nin need of God’s salvation. <\/p>\n

701
\n00:53:54,840 –> 00:53:58,720
\nIt’s only then, brothers and
\nsisters, when we are reduced to <\/p>\n

702
\n00:53:58,720 –> 00:54:03,200
\nnothing, that we are broken,
\nthat we are in a state of <\/p>\n

703
\n00:54:03,200 –> 00:54:07,520
\ndespair and we are just hanging
\non for dear life. <\/p>\n

704
\n00:54:08,320 –> 00:54:12,680
\nIt’s then and then only, that
\nGod can work wonders and <\/p>\n

705
\n00:54:12,680 –> 00:54:18,560
\nmiracles in you and me.
\nWhen we confess to Him who we <\/p>\n

706
\n00:54:18,560 –> 00:54:25,600
\nare and that we need His help,
\nthen God can change us. <\/p>\n

707
\n00:54:26,760 –> 00:54:30,000
\nAnd so then I leave you with
\nthis question. <\/p>\n

708
\n00:54:32,080 –> 00:54:36,360
\nHave you, brothers and sisters,
\nas we sit here comfortably at <\/p>\n

709
\n00:54:36,360 –> 00:54:43,040
\nour Bible school today, have
\nyou, have you taken your mask <\/p>\n

710
\n00:54:43,040 –> 00:54:48,120
\noff?
\nHave you taken your mask off and<\/p>\n

711
\n00:54:48,120 –> 00:54:51,720
\nconfessed to God who you really
\nare? <\/p>\n

712
\n00:54:53,320 –> 00:55:12,560
\nAnd if not, why not?
\nThank you for listening to the <\/p>\n

713
\n00:55:12,560 –> 00:55:14,120
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\n00:55:15,000 –> 00:55:17,400
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\n00:55:17,400 –> 00:55:19,800
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