The opening exhortation by Bro. Matthew Blewett from the same Idyllwild Bible School was used in GCT Episode 308.<\/p>\n
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\nOur third period teacher is
\nBrother Matthew Blewett. <\/p>\n
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\nHis general topic is Heaven and
\nEarth and today’s topic is <\/p>\n
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\nSymbolic Synergy.
\nBrother Matthew. <\/p>\n
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\nWell good morning everyone, good
\nto be back with you all here for<\/p>\n
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\nthe third session.
\nAgain, I don’t think I’ll be <\/p>\n
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\nneeding physio like John, but I
\ncertainly was taught a lesson <\/p>\n
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\nwith my wife on the pickleball
\ncourt yesterday. <\/p>\n
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\nSo yeah, I think I got off just
\nbefore the physio would have <\/p>\n
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\nbeen required.
\nBut great to enjoy some sporting<\/p>\n
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\nactivities yesterday.
\nSo we’re going to be continuing <\/p>\n
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\nour series on heaven and earth
\nand trying to reveal this <\/p>\n
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\npattern and specifically in this
\nparticular session, talk about <\/p>\n
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\nsymbols and how this relates to
\nsymbols, how we use symbols in <\/p>\n
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\nour worship and how symbols
\nactually appear all around us in<\/p>\n
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\nthe world that we live in if we
\nare activated. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so to a large extent, I
\nguess what we’ve been talking <\/p>\n
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\nabout up to now might seem quite
\ntheoretical. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’re establishing some
\nprinciples. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’ve been talking about the the
\noverriding purpose and pattern <\/p>\n
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\nwhich is found in Genesis one
\nverse one very simple answer to <\/p>\n
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\nthe purpose and meaning and
\nmission of all creation being <\/p>\n
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\nthe joining together of heaven
\nand earth. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd that that pattern is
\ndesigned into all reality, both <\/p>\n
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\nwhat we discover as we’ll see
\nover and over again in the word <\/p>\n
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\nof God and what we see in the
\nworld around us. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I think this is really
\nimportant. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd what I really want to get to
\nis that even though the ultimate<\/p>\n
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\nmacrocosm fulfilment of heaven
\nand earth is the Kingdom is <\/p>\n
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\nRevelation 21 verse one, this
\npurpose is real and present and <\/p>\n
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\nit’s happening all the time
\naround us if we are aware to it <\/p>\n
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\nand we can actually participate
\nin the joining of heaven and <\/p>\n
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\nearth.
\nAnd so that’s what I mean. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd hopefully I’ll be able to
\ngive some pragmatic examples <\/p>\n
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\nthis morning about becoming
\nactivated disciples. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd we’re going to focus on on
\nthree words that we’ll mention <\/p>\n
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\nhopefully a few times.
\nAnd that is becoming more <\/p>\n
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\nintentional in.
\nOur worship intentional in our <\/p>\n
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\ndiscipleship, becoming more
\npresent and becoming more <\/p>\n
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\ncurious.
\nSo those are three principles, I<\/p>\n
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\nthink that are very helpful in
\nterms of becoming activated in <\/p>\n
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\nthe way our discipleship plays
\nitself at. <\/p>\n
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\nSo we ended yesterday by really
\ntrying to, to, to open up the <\/p>\n
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\npattern of heaven and earth to
\nshow that you have in these 3 <\/p>\n
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\nwords, a whole bunch of ideas
\nassociated with heaven that have<\/p>\n
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\nto do with idea, that has to do
\nwith word, light, meaning, <\/p>\n
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\norder, understanding, name.
\nAnd then you have earth, which <\/p>\n
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\nhas to do with concreteness,
\nmateriality, chaos, to a certain<\/p>\n
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\nextent, darkness.
\nThese are the words that we <\/p>\n
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\nassociated with, but also
\nfruitfulness and, and those kind<\/p>\n
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\nof ideas.
\nAnd we show that in between <\/p>\n
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\nthere is this joining word vav
\nand that when heaven and earth <\/p>\n
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\nare joined, which is the
\nultimate purpose. <\/p>\n
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\nBut whenever they are joined,
\nthis is when the real <\/p>\n
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\ntransformation takes place.
\nThis is when something really <\/p>\n
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\nimportant is going on because
\nthis is the design of all <\/p>\n
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\nreality.
\nSo what we’re going to start <\/p>\n
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\nwith this morning is to
\ndemonstrate that pattern that <\/p>\n
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\nwe’ve identified in Genesis one,
\nverse one. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd now that we understand it
\nperhaps a bit more broadly, I <\/p>\n
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\nwant to show how it plays itself
\nout. <\/p>\n
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\nIf you haven’t seen throughout
\nthe rest of the creation record,<\/p>\n
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\nwe’ve said that heaven and earth
\nis the mother of all dualities. <\/p>\n
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\nIn other words, we use that word
\nduality, the pair and, and that <\/p>\n
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\nfrom that, all of these other
\npairs or dualities that you see <\/p>\n
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\nthroughout Scripture are
\nactually an example or a <\/p>\n
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\nrepetition of that pattern.
\nAnd there’s no better place to <\/p>\n
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\nactually demonstrate that to you
\nthan actually in Genesis 1, <\/p>\n
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\nbecause I’m sure you’ve noticed
\nwhen. <\/p>\n
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\nYou’re reading the.
\nCreation record. <\/p>\n
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\nThe creation is actually
\npresented to us with dualities. <\/p>\n
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\nSo if you haven’t, hopefully you
\nwill see it right now. <\/p>\n
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\nSo there’s a slide and if you’re
\nsitting at the back that does <\/p>\n
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\nnot abide by the 34 point
\nprinciple. <\/p>\n
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\nSo you might find it difficult
\nto see. <\/p>\n
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\nBut hopefully you are able to
\nsee that quite busy slide. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd I want to just take you
\nthrough a part of that slide so <\/p>\n
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\nthat you can get this idea of
\nthe repeating pattern of heaven <\/p>\n
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\nand earth and it.
\nHelps really for us to begin to <\/p>\n
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\nunderstand how.
\nFirst of all, how intrinsic this<\/p>\n
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\npattern is to the Scripture and
\nthen also help us to understand <\/p>\n
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\nwhy it’s useful in terms of the
\nlens that we look at Scripture <\/p>\n
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\nand then the lens that we look
\nat the whole world. <\/p>\n
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\nSo obviously on the left hand
\nside, we’ve got Genesis one <\/p>\n
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\nverse one establishes the
\noriginal duality, heaven and <\/p>\n
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\nearth.
\nAnd then we see that for each <\/p>\n
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\nday there is this, this, this
\nsort of flowing out, as I said, <\/p>\n
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\nof duality.
\nSo for day one, the key duality <\/p>\n
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\nis represented in light and
\ndark, in day and night. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so we have this, this
\nunderstanding that you had the <\/p>\n
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\nearth which was without.
\nForm. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd void and you know, it’s this
\nidea of, of chaos, this idea of <\/p>\n
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\nnothingness.
\nBut but but it isn’t really <\/p>\n
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\nthat.
\nWhat we’re going to see from <\/p>\n
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\ncreation is that which looks
\nlike it’s dark and nothing has <\/p>\n
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\npotential if it can meet with
\nheaven. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so that’s what’s going on in
\nday one. <\/p>\n
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\nYou’ve got the light of heaven
\nmeeting with the darkness, the <\/p>\n
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\nchaos of earth.
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\nday one, a meeting of heaven and
\nearth. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd again, it’s, it’s teaching
\nus about how this operates in <\/p>\n
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\nour daily lives.
\nWe we, we can find ourselves in <\/p>\n
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\ntimes where in our earthly
\nrealm, in our earthly <\/p>\n
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\nexperiences, things feel
\nchaotic. <\/p>\n
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\nThere, there it.
\nSeems like things don’t have any<\/p>\n
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\nmeaning and in those times it
\nfeels like we’re in the <\/p>\n
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\ndarkness, in the valley of the
\nshadow of death and and <\/p>\n
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\nsuddenly.
\nWe, we, we, we’re. <\/p>\n
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\nAble to connect with the
\nmeaning. <\/p>\n
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\nOften it may be by by by someone
\nconnecting us back to the <\/p>\n
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\nspiritual insights that we’ve
\nlost and the right chance. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd suddenly there is all the
\npotential that can come out of <\/p>\n
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\nthat dark.
\nSituation. <\/p>\n
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\nSo that is a joining of heaven
\nand earth in that particular <\/p>\n
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\nexample.
\nAnd so we come to day two again.<\/p>\n
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\nDay two presents us with the
\nidea of sky and earth. <\/p>\n
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\nIn fact, day two specifically
\nsays it like this. <\/p>\n
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\nIt says there are the waters
\nabove and the waters below. <\/p>\n
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\nRemember we said we associate
\nheaven with above and we <\/p>\n
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\nassociate earth with below.
\nReally interesting. <\/p>\n
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\nSo waters above, think about
\nthat waters above the waters <\/p>\n
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\nthat are are fresh, the waters
\nthat give laugh or out that <\/p>\n
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\nprovide laugh.
\nIt’s it’s because of the waters <\/p>\n
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\nabove that when we put a seed
\ninto the earth, when the waters <\/p>\n
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\nabove come down, that the
\npotential. <\/p>\n
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\nOf the seed.
\nComes to laugh and the waters <\/p>\n
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\nbelow, well again, that’s going
\nto be used a lot as a pattern <\/p>\n
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\nthroughout scripture.
\nThe dark chaotic waters below <\/p>\n
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\nthe salt, the waters where there
\nis like the Dead Sea as an <\/p>\n
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\nexample.
\nSo that’s the idea of chaos and <\/p>\n
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\nused over and over again
\nthroughout the pattern of <\/p>\n
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\nScripture to represent that, to
\nrepresent the nations, a place <\/p>\n
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\nwhere there is no meaning, where
\nthere is no order. <\/p>\n
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\nSo there.
\nWe have it coming out again. <\/p>\n
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\nLook at day three as well.
\nReally interesting. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd you would have noticed this.
\nWe’ve mentioned this before, <\/p>\n
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\nseed and fruit.
\nSeed representing heaven. <\/p>\n
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\nWhy you might say, well, heaven
\nis about identity, it is about <\/p>\n
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\nmeaning, it is about purpose, it
\nis about a name. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd from that seed, from that
\nmeaning, from that purpose, then<\/p>\n
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\nthere’s a materialization of the
\nfruit. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd this is beginning, beginning
\nto also. <\/p>\n
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\nShow us that both heaven and
\nearth are playing a role in our <\/p>\n
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\nexperience of reality, in the
\nworld that we live in, the way <\/p>\n
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\nthat God created it.
\nWe’ve mentioned this before. <\/p>\n
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\nA part of the role that Earth is
\nplaying is it’s materializing <\/p>\n
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\nthe spiritual idea.
\nThe seed that we can hardly <\/p>\n
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\nexperience or understand becomes
\nthe fruit. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd so we have seed and fruit.
\nDay four, sun and moon won’t go <\/p>\n
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\ninto that in detail, but you can
\nthink about that as a heaven and<\/p>\n
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\nearth duality.
\nLook at this one. <\/p>\n
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\nIn day five, you got birds
\ncontrasted with fish in the day <\/p>\n
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\nfive creation record.
\nAnd again, if you think about <\/p>\n
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\nthis from what you know about
\nscripture, why would I say birds<\/p>\n
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\nheaven?
\nWell, because they’re up above, <\/p>\n
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\nthey fly up above and then
\nyou’ve got the fish down in the <\/p>\n
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\nchaotic sea and just think about
\nhow that rolls out. <\/p>\n
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\nIf you think we’re we’re
\nstretching it when the spirit is<\/p>\n
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\ngoing to be.
\nRepresented as an animal in the <\/p>\n
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\nWord of God.
\nWhat have we got? <\/p>\n
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\nA dove when we’re going to use
\nthe word of God to use an animal<\/p>\n
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\nto represent death in the.
\nGrave What are we going to use a<\/p>\n
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\nbig fish.
\nI can lip read you. <\/p>\n
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\nNobody said that a big fish
\nJonah in the in in the. <\/p>\n
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\nBelly of the whale.
\nSo we have that same heaven and <\/p>\n
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\nearth contrast coming up.
\nThis is the part that I always <\/p>\n
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\nget nervous with.
\nAll right. <\/p>\n
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\nWell, we’re not quite there.
\nMan and animals. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd remember, This is why we
\nstarted by looking at the <\/p>\n
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\nfractal patterns.
\nYou’re going to start seeing <\/p>\n
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\nthat depending on the scale or
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\nbetter just to look it up. <\/p>\n
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\n00:18:55,480 –> 00:19:01,240
\nGenesis Chapter 9 and we’re at
\nthe record of Noah and at verse.<\/p>\n
340
\n00:19:01,240 –> 00:19:03,640
\nWe’ll just read the one verse
\nbecause I think now that you’ve <\/p>\n
341
\n00:19:03,640 –> 00:19:05,280
\ngot your heaven and earth lenses
\non. <\/p>\n
342
\n00:19:05,960 –> 00:19:08,560
\nYou’ll see how this is the
\nlanguage of heaven and earth. <\/p>\n
343
\n00:19:09,080 –> 00:19:18,680
\nSo Genesis 9, verse 13, I set my
\nrainbow in the cloud and it <\/p>\n
344
\n00:19:18,680 –> 00:19:22,080
\nshall be for the sign of the
\ncovenant between me and the <\/p>\n
345
\n00:19:22,080 –> 00:19:24,880
\nearth.
\nSo this is the meeting point. <\/p>\n
346
\n00:19:25,280 –> 00:19:29,240
\nSo I’m showing you, I’m showing
\nyou that this pattern will not <\/p>\n
347
\n00:19:29,280 –> 00:19:34,000
\never end, that we are going to
\nhave a union between heaven and <\/p>\n
348
\n00:19:34,000 –> 00:19:36,120
\nearth.
\nAnd this this beautiful meeting <\/p>\n
349
\n00:19:36,120 –> 00:19:39,720
\nthat you’re seeing in the.
\nHarvest of Light is a covenant <\/p>\n
350
\n00:19:39,720 –> 00:19:46,920
\nis a token is a symbol to show
\nyou that this is being fulfilled<\/p>\n
351
\n00:19:46,920 –> 00:19:50,920
\nnow and will be fulfilled
\ncontinuously until it’s <\/p>\n
352
\n00:19:50,960 –> 00:19:54,120
\nultimately fulfilled in the
\nmacrocosm of the purpose of all <\/p>\n
353
\n00:19:54,120 –> 00:19:57,960
\ncreation.
\nWell, other examples. <\/p>\n
354
\n00:19:58,360 –> 00:19:59,640
\nWell, let’s bring it closer to
\nhome. <\/p>\n
355
\n00:20:02,600 –> 00:20:07,480
\nThe creation, arguably of the
\nthe most important being or <\/p>\n
356
\n00:20:07,480 –> 00:20:12,320
\ncreature that was created by God
\nin Genesis 2 verse seven reads <\/p>\n
357
\n00:20:12,320 –> 00:20:16,760
\nlike this and the Lord God.
\nFormed man of the dust of the <\/p>\n
358
\n00:20:16,760 –> 00:20:20,640
\nground and breathed into his
\nnostrils the breath of life and <\/p>\n
359
\n00:20:20,640 –> 00:20:25,120
\nman became a living being.
\nAnd so we can now see that <\/p>\n
360
\n00:20:25,160 –> 00:20:29,720
\nabsolutely we as the unique
\ncreation of. <\/p>\n
361
\n00:20:29,720 –> 00:20:33,480
\nGod are the.
\nUnion of heaven and earth that <\/p>\n
362
\n00:20:33,480 –> 00:20:40,520
\nbreath that that Ruach that
\nspirit is put into the clay, the<\/p>\n
363
\n00:20:40,520 –> 00:20:44,640
\nsoil.
\nAnd this is this unique, unique <\/p>\n
364
\n00:20:44,640 –> 00:20:49,480
\nposition that we were put into
\nby God so that like he joined <\/p>\n
365
\n00:20:49,480 –> 00:20:52,760
\nheaven and earth and has as his
\npurpose to continue to join <\/p>\n
366
\n00:20:52,760 –> 00:20:56,080
\nheaven and earth.
\nWe were designed with a unique <\/p>\n
367
\n00:20:56,080 –> 00:21:00,120
\nability to do that.
\nThat spirit, that thing that <\/p>\n
368
\n00:21:00,120 –> 00:21:04,600
\nmakes us in the image of God,
\nthat word that’s implanted in <\/p>\n
369
\n00:21:04,600 –> 00:21:06,960
\nevery one of you, that actually
\nallows you to sit in this room <\/p>\n
370
\n00:21:07,120 –> 00:21:09,080
\nand hopefully make some sense of
\nwhat I’m saying. <\/p>\n
371
\n00:21:09,080 –> 00:21:13,800
\nBecause you can, you can, you
\ncan understand, you can see <\/p>\n
372
\n00:21:13,800 –> 00:21:16,600
\nmeaning and purpose, which
\nseparates you from the rest of <\/p>\n
373
\n00:21:16,600 –> 00:21:18,760
\neverything else out there.
\nAnd that’s why you can walk <\/p>\n
374
\n00:21:18,760 –> 00:21:20,160
\naround and join heaven and
\nearth. <\/p>\n
375
\n00:21:21,160 –> 00:21:25,760
\nAnd this is in our very
\nconstruction of who we are as <\/p>\n
376
\n00:21:25,800 –> 00:21:29,920
\nliving beings.
\nAnd then of course, perhaps the <\/p>\n
377
\n00:21:29,920 –> 00:21:34,200
\nultimate example of the joining
\nof heaven and earth in the Lord <\/p>\n
378
\n00:21:34,200 –> 00:21:38,200
\nJesus Christ.
\nWe have these words in Luke one <\/p>\n
379
\n00:21:39,120 –> 00:21:44,320
\nand the Angel said to Mary.
\nThe Holy Spirit will come upon <\/p>\n
380
\n00:21:44,320 –> 00:21:46,880
\nyou and the.
\nPower of the highest will over <\/p>\n
381
\n00:21:46,880 –> 00:21:50,200
\nshadow you.
\nTherefore also the Holy One who <\/p>\n
382
\n00:21:50,200 –> 00:21:52,760
\nis born will be called the Son
\nof God. <\/p>\n
383
\n00:21:53,400 –> 00:21:56,000
\nBeautiful.
\nJust think of the imagery, the <\/p>\n
384
\n00:21:56,000 –> 00:21:58,520
\nSpirit of God.
\nComing down into the womb of the<\/p>\n
385
\n00:21:58,520 –> 00:22:03,120
\nwoman, the idea of heaven and
\nearth meeting in this man in a <\/p>\n
386
\n00:22:03,120 –> 00:22:07,600
\nway like it had never happened
\nbefore in a macro version of the<\/p>\n
387
\n00:22:07,600 –> 00:22:10,000
\nAdamic creation with the second
\nAdam. <\/p>\n
388
\n00:22:10,640 –> 00:22:11,800
\nAs a meeting of heaven and
\nearth. <\/p>\n
389
\n00:22:11,800 –> 00:22:14,880
\nAnd that’s why John, you know,
\nhe just pulls all these ideas <\/p>\n
390
\n00:22:14,880 –> 00:22:17,280
\ntogether.
\nHe says, look, I mean you, you <\/p>\n
391
\n00:22:17,280 –> 00:22:20,520
\nknow that, that the Genesis
\nrecord, Genesis 1 teaches you <\/p>\n
392
\n00:22:20,520 –> 00:22:24,960
\nthat it was all made with words
\nand and spiritual ideas. <\/p>\n
393
\n00:22:25,800 –> 00:22:28,280
\nAnd he says that in the
\nbeginning was the word. <\/p>\n
394
\n00:22:28,960 –> 00:22:30,800
\nSo that’s that’s, that’s the
\nseed. <\/p>\n
395
\n00:22:30,800 –> 00:22:35,160
\nIt’s all wisdom, everything in
\nthis dense seed of word. <\/p>\n
396
\n00:22:36,000 –> 00:22:38,280
\nThere it all.
\nIs meaning, purpose, <\/p>\n
397
\n00:22:38,280 –> 00:22:42,280
\nunderstanding all in in the word
\nand then what happens? <\/p>\n
398
\n00:22:42,400 –> 00:22:46,160
\nWell, we know verse 14 and the
\nword became flesh. <\/p>\n
399
\n00:22:47,080 –> 00:22:51,480
\nThe word meets the earth.
\nThe heaven meets the earth and <\/p>\n
400
\n00:22:51,480 –> 00:22:52,920
\ndwelled among us and what
\nhappens? <\/p>\n
401
\n00:22:53,520 –> 00:22:54,760
\nWhat happens when heaven meets
\nearth? <\/p>\n
402
\n00:22:54,760 –> 00:22:57,920
\nWhy do we want to see it today
\nand why are we hoping to see it <\/p>\n
403
\n00:22:57,920 –> 00:22:59,200
\nin the future?
\nWell, that’s the. <\/p>\n
404
\n00:22:59,200 –> 00:23:02,160
\nMoment of transformation.
\nChoose your word. <\/p>\n
405
\n00:23:02,160 –> 00:23:06,800
\nBeauty, glory, these these very
\nhigh level words, that’s what <\/p>\n
406
\n00:23:06,800 –> 00:23:09,360
\nhappens.
\nAnd that’s why he says in John <\/p>\n
407
\n00:23:09,360 –> 00:23:14,320
\none, when flesh word became
\nflesh and dwelt among us, we <\/p>\n
408
\n00:23:14,320 –> 00:23:18,920
\nbeheld his glory, the glory of
\nthe one and only. <\/p>\n
409
\n00:23:19,480 –> 00:23:21,080
\nAnd so that’s what.
\nHappened. <\/p>\n
410
\n00:23:21,520 –> 00:23:26,760
\nJesus hosted the purpose, he
\nhosted the word, everything that<\/p>\n
411
\n00:23:26,760 –> 00:23:30,640
\nGod ever intended, and he was
\nable to manifest and live it <\/p>\n
412
\n00:23:30,640 –> 00:23:33,960
\nout.
\nAnd for us, it is through his <\/p>\n
413
\n00:23:33,960 –> 00:23:37,160
\nlife that we gain a better
\nunderstanding of that word. <\/p>\n
414
\n00:23:38,240 –> 00:23:43,400
\nWithout it, we’re all the worse
\nbecause we can, we can get into <\/p>\n
415
\n00:23:43,440 –> 00:23:45,640
\nhis life.
\nWe, we, we, we think, you know, <\/p>\n
416
\n00:23:45,640 –> 00:23:50,680
\nI can tell you that God is love.
\nOr you can can enter in as best <\/p>\n
417
\n00:23:50,680 –> 00:23:55,200
\nyou can, into the story of a man
\nwho’s pulled up on a cross, <\/p>\n
418
\n00:23:55,200 –> 00:23:58,880
\nwhose hands are nailed to it
\nwith a crown of thorns thrust <\/p>\n
419
\n00:23:58,880 –> 00:24:02,320
\nupon his head.
\nAnd it’s full of physical <\/p>\n
420
\n00:24:02,320 –> 00:24:06,440
\nreality.
\nAnd he’s sweating and the blood <\/p>\n
421
\n00:24:06,440 –> 00:24:11,000
\nis pouring from his brow.
\nAnd the barbaric soldiers are <\/p>\n
422
\n00:24:11,080 –> 00:24:16,480
\nhurling insults at him, and
\nthere’s pain in his face and <\/p>\n
423
\n00:24:16,480 –> 00:24:19,640
\nthere’s dust.
\nAnd in the midst of all of it. <\/p>\n
424
\n00:24:21,120 –> 00:24:25,480
\nHe says, Father, forgive them
\nfor they know not what they do, <\/p>\n
425
\n00:24:26,800 –> 00:24:30,720
\nand heaven meets earth.
\nAnd now we know that when Paul <\/p>\n
426
\n00:24:30,720 –> 00:24:36,840
\nsays in Romans, it is only when
\nwe perceive love through the <\/p>\n
427
\n00:24:36,840 –> 00:24:40,160
\nLord Jesus Christ, through the
\nreality of that meeting, that we<\/p>\n
428
\n00:24:40,160 –> 00:24:43,200
\ncan begin to comprehend the
\nlength and the width and the <\/p>\n
429
\n00:24:43,200 –> 00:24:47,160
\nheart and the breadth of this
\nthing that is incomprehensible <\/p>\n
430
\n00:24:47,160 –> 00:24:50,400
\nother than through experiences
\nsuch as this that we can enter <\/p>\n
431
\n00:24:50,400 –> 00:24:53,440
\ninto.
\nSo those are some really clear <\/p>\n
432
\n00:24:53,440 –> 00:24:56,120
\nexamples and.
\nWhat I’d like to do now is to, <\/p>\n
433
\n00:24:56,760 –> 00:24:58,840
\nlike a university lecturer, give
\nyou a. <\/p>\n
434
\n00:24:58,880 –> 00:25:01,960
\nWorked example.
\nI think there’s no better, more <\/p>\n
435
\n00:25:01,960 –> 00:25:06,160
\npragmatic way to show the the
\nthe joining of heaven and earth <\/p>\n
436
\n00:25:06,160 –> 00:25:09,360
\ntogether and some of the ideas
\nrelated to that than the story <\/p>\n
437
\n00:25:09,360 –> 00:25:11,880
\nof Jacob’s letter.
\nSo if you’d like to go there. <\/p>\n
438
\n00:25:12,560 –> 00:25:16,720
\nIt’s in Genesis 28 and we’re
\njust going to spend a few <\/p>\n
439
\n00:25:16,720 –> 00:25:18,760
\nminutes in this well known
\nstory. <\/p>\n
440
\n00:25:18,760 –> 00:25:22,160
\nYou know it well, but I’m going
\nto try and pick out a few points<\/p>\n
441
\n00:25:22,160 –> 00:25:24,400
\nthere that.
\nJust maybe you haven’t seen it <\/p>\n
442
\n00:25:24,400 –> 00:25:27,760
\nthrough this lens, because this
\nis a classic joining of heaven <\/p>\n
443
\n00:25:27,760 –> 00:25:30,880
\nand earth, Verse 10 of Genesis
\n28. <\/p>\n
444
\n00:25:31,720 –> 00:25:35,240
\nNow, Jacob went out from
\nBeersheba and went toward Heyro.<\/p>\n
445
\n00:25:35,240 –> 00:25:38,360
\nAnd by the way, every detail.
\nYeah, man, we could spend a <\/p>\n
446
\n00:25:38,360 –> 00:25:41,680
\nwhole day on this.
\nJust very briefly, when Jacob <\/p>\n
447
\n00:25:42,080 –> 00:25:44,800
\nhas caused trouble and there’s
\nchaos because his brother now <\/p>\n
448
\n00:25:44,800 –> 00:25:47,120
\nwants to kill him and he’s got
\nto run. <\/p>\n
449
\n00:25:47,640 –> 00:25:51,480
\nIt’s very interesting that his
\nmother points him to family, <\/p>\n
450
\n00:25:52,000 –> 00:25:55,400
\npoints them to identity, points
\nthem, as it were, in brackets. <\/p>\n
451
\n00:25:55,400 –> 00:25:57,760
\nEven though we might say, well,
\ngoing away from Israel, you’re <\/p>\n
452
\n00:25:57,760 –> 00:26:00,600
\ngoing now to Heiran.
\nAll right, That doesn’t look <\/p>\n
453
\n00:26:00,600 –> 00:26:01,760
\nlike he’s going in the right
\ndirection. <\/p>\n
454
\n00:26:01,760 –> 00:26:03,680
\nBut in that sense, it was the
\nright direction. <\/p>\n
455
\n00:26:03,840 –> 00:26:07,280
\nHe’s got to go back from chaos
\nto find his identity, to find <\/p>\n
456
\n00:26:07,280 –> 00:26:10,040
\nhis purpose.
\nAnd that’s why she sends them to<\/p>\n
457
\n00:26:10,040 –> 00:26:12,920
\nto Laban.
\nHe came in verse 11 to a certain<\/p>\n
458
\n00:26:12,920 –> 00:26:14,040
\nplace.
\nI love the way the Scripture <\/p>\n
459
\n00:26:14,040 –> 00:26:16,360
\ndoes that because, you know,
\nit’s kind of like this is just <\/p>\n
460
\n00:26:16,360 –> 00:26:19,480
\nsome random place, some
\narbitrary place suddenly looks <\/p>\n
461
\n00:26:19,480 –> 00:26:20,880
\npretty good.
\nI can spend the night. <\/p>\n
462
\n00:26:21,000 –> 00:26:23,920
\nIn fact, the text kind of
\nimplies that he, he had to rush <\/p>\n
463
\n00:26:23,920 –> 00:26:26,280
\nto make a decision because the
\nsun was setting and he doesn’t <\/p>\n
464
\n00:26:26,280 –> 00:26:28,640
\nwant to be out in the dark.
\nHe was obviously in a big rush <\/p>\n
465
\n00:26:28,640 –> 00:26:30,280
\nbecause he decides to use a
\nstone as a pillow. <\/p>\n
466
\n00:26:30,600 –> 00:26:34,080
\nSo things are happening here.
\nAnd of course, we know what <\/p>\n
467
\n00:26:34,080 –> 00:26:36,160
\nhappens.
\nHe, he has a, a decent night’s <\/p>\n
468
\n00:26:36,160 –> 00:26:39,360
\nsleep, it appears.
\nBut then he has a dream and <\/p>\n
469
\n00:26:39,360 –> 00:26:41,240
\nthere’s a ladder.
\nAnd look at the detail with the <\/p>\n
470
\n00:26:41,240 –> 00:26:45,960
\nheaven and earth lens set up on
\nearth and its top reaches to <\/p>\n
471
\n00:26:46,200 –> 00:26:48,560
\nheaven.
\nAnd the angels of God are <\/p>\n
472
\n00:26:48,800 –> 00:26:52,960
\nascending and descending on it.
\nOh wow, this is Genesis one <\/p>\n
473
\n00:26:52,960 –> 00:26:57,200
\nverse one heaven and earth
\nconnected. <\/p>\n
474
\n00:26:57,560 –> 00:26:59,240
\nThat’s what he’s having revealed
\nto him. <\/p>\n
475
\n00:26:59,320 –> 00:27:03,120
\nThis is what it’s about Jacob.
\nAnd behold, the Lord stood above<\/p>\n
476
\n00:27:03,120 –> 00:27:04,720
\nit.
\nLook at what the Lord says to <\/p>\n
477
\n00:27:04,720 –> 00:27:06,120
\nhim.
\nWhat’s heaven going to offer <\/p>\n
478
\n00:27:06,120 –> 00:27:08,240
\nhim?
\nSo you might think we’re <\/p>\n
479
\n00:27:08,240 –> 00:27:09,480
\nstretching all these
\nassociations. <\/p>\n
480
\n00:27:09,480 –> 00:27:10,520
\nWhat’s heaven going to offer
\nhim? <\/p>\n
481
\n00:27:10,760 –> 00:27:11,760
\nThis is what it’s going to offer
\nhim. <\/p>\n
482
\n00:27:12,080 –> 00:27:14,880
\nI am the Lord God of your
\nfather, Abraham, the God of <\/p>\n
483
\n00:27:14,880 –> 00:27:16,360
\nIsaac.
\nThe land in which I will give <\/p>\n
484
\n00:27:16,360 –> 00:27:17,960
\nyou, I will give to you and your
\ndescendants. <\/p>\n
485
\n00:27:18,160 –> 00:27:20,800
\nYour descendants shall be as the
\ndust of the earth. <\/p>\n
486
\n00:27:21,000 –> 00:27:23,080
\nYou shall spread abroad to the
\nWest, to the east, to the north <\/p>\n
487
\n00:27:23,080 –> 00:27:25,040
\nand the South.
\nAnd you, you, and in all your <\/p>\n
488
\n00:27:25,040 –> 00:27:27,760
\nseed, all the families of the
\nearth shall be blessed. <\/p>\n
489
\n00:27:28,160 –> 00:27:30,920
\nBehold, I am with you and will
\nkeep you wherever you go, and <\/p>\n
490
\n00:27:30,920 –> 00:27:33,600
\nwe’ll bring you back to this
\nland, for I will not leave you <\/p>\n
491
\n00:27:33,840 –> 00:27:35,320
\nuntil I’ve done what I’ve spoken
\nto you. <\/p>\n
492
\n00:27:36,320 –> 00:27:39,680
\nHe gives him identity, He gives
\nhim purpose. <\/p>\n
493
\n00:27:40,240 –> 00:27:46,520
\nHe says here’s promises, here’s
\ndirection, here’s a name and and<\/p>\n
494
\n00:27:46,520 –> 00:27:50,360
\nhere’s a seed.
\nAnd as a result, you are going <\/p>\n
495
\n00:27:50,360 –> 00:27:52,560
\nto be fruitful.
\nYou’re going to host this, <\/p>\n
496
\n00:27:52,840 –> 00:27:55,560
\nyou’re going to have and you see
\nhow he describes the the <\/p>\n
497
\n00:27:55,560 –> 00:27:57,680
\nfamilies of the earth as the
\ndust. <\/p>\n
498
\n00:27:58,320 –> 00:28:01,040
\nOf the earth.
\nThat’s not that’s not just used <\/p>\n
499
\n00:28:01,040 –> 00:28:04,920
\nas a metaphor, that’s absolutely
\nin keeping with the pattern. <\/p>\n
500
\n00:28:05,400 –> 00:28:08,440
\nYour families will be as the
\ndust of the earth. <\/p>\n
501
\n00:28:10,200 –> 00:28:15,840
\nYou see Jacob heaven and earth
\nwill be connected and here is an<\/p>\n
502
\n00:28:15,840 –> 00:28:19,880
\nexample of that pattern and
\nJacob gets it says verse 16, he <\/p>\n
503
\n00:28:19,880 –> 00:28:22,480
\nwoke up from his sleep.
\nHe said surely the Lord is in <\/p>\n
504
\n00:28:22,480 –> 00:28:24,640
\nthis place and I did not know
\nit. <\/p>\n
505
\n00:28:25,680 –> 00:28:28,480
\nHe was afraid and said how
\nawesome is this place? <\/p>\n
506
\n00:28:28,680 –> 00:28:29,760
\nThis is None.
\nOther than the. <\/p>\n
507
\n00:28:29,760 –> 00:28:33,040
\nHouse of God, this is the gate
\nof heaven. <\/p>\n
508
\n00:28:34,160 –> 00:28:36,960
\nSo this is this is where the
\nrubber hits the sand because you<\/p>\n
509
\n00:28:36,960 –> 00:28:38,880
\nknow.
\nThe place that he came to, we <\/p>\n
510
\n00:28:38,880 –> 00:28:40,880
\nwere told a bit later on, was
\nnamed Laz. <\/p>\n
511
\n00:28:40,880 –> 00:28:43,240
\nYou all know that.
\nAnd he renames it Bethel, the <\/p>\n
512
\n00:28:43,240 –> 00:28:46,480
\nHouse of God.
\nNow the word Laz actually comes <\/p>\n
513
\n00:28:46,480 –> 00:28:50,680
\nfrom the, the, the origin is an
\nalmond tree or, or a similar <\/p>\n
514
\n00:28:50,680 –> 00:28:54,000
\ntype of, of nut tree.
\nAnd really the, the etymology of<\/p>\n
515
\n00:28:54,000 –> 00:28:56,640
\nthe word is the idea of those
\ntrees that were twisted. <\/p>\n
516
\n00:28:57,360 –> 00:29:00,160
\nSo in a, in a sense, you’ve got
\nthis place that was twisted. <\/p>\n
517
\n00:29:01,360 –> 00:29:03,760
\nMaybe the idea is a little bit
\nto do with chaotic. <\/p>\n
518
\n00:29:03,760 –> 00:29:06,000
\nMaybe I’m stretching it.
\nAnd then he says but. <\/p>\n
519
\n00:29:06,400 –> 00:29:10,040
\nNow I’ve discovered this is the
\nHouse of God. <\/p>\n
520
\n00:29:10,840 –> 00:29:13,520
\nThis is the place of the ladder,
\nthe place of connection. <\/p>\n
521
\n00:29:14,560 –> 00:29:19,040
\nAnd why?
\nBecause He had a moment where he<\/p>\n
522
\n00:29:19,040 –> 00:29:22,360
\nwas intentional, He was present
\nand he. <\/p>\n
523
\n00:29:22,360 –> 00:29:25,520
\nWas able to realize that
\nconnection between heaven and <\/p>\n
524
\n00:29:25,520 –> 00:29:27,280
\nearth.
\nAnd so the question is, you <\/p>\n
525
\n00:29:27,280 –> 00:29:31,440
\nknow, how many times, how many
\nplaces, how many spaces do we go<\/p>\n
526
\n00:29:31,440 –> 00:29:37,440
\nto that are just certain places?
\nAnd we miss the opportunity for <\/p>\n
527
\n00:29:37,440 –> 00:29:40,640
\nthe House of God.
\nWe miss the opportunity to make <\/p>\n
528
\n00:29:40,640 –> 00:29:44,280
\nthat place a place where heaven
\nand earth meet. <\/p>\n
529
\n00:29:44,280 –> 00:29:48,920
\nAnd what’s really interesting
\njust to bring this together is, <\/p>\n
530
\n00:29:49,320 –> 00:29:50,920
\nI mean, whether Jacob got all of
\nthis. <\/p>\n
531
\n00:29:50,920 –> 00:29:53,840
\nThe point is that the patent
\nplays it out itself out over and<\/p>\n
532
\n00:29:53,840 –> 00:29:55,960
\nover again.
\nBut Jacob actually does two <\/p>\n
533
\n00:29:55,960 –> 00:29:59,480
\nthings in response to this dream
\nthat he has. <\/p>\n
534
\n00:29:59,920 –> 00:30:02,240
\nAnd they both really interesting
\nbecause they haven’t really <\/p>\n
535
\n00:30:02,240 –> 00:30:04,800
\nhappened before.
\nThe first is he does something <\/p>\n
536
\n00:30:04,800 –> 00:30:06,160
\nwhich I’ve always thought is
\nrather crazy. <\/p>\n
537
\n00:30:06,360 –> 00:30:08,680
\nHe takes some very precious oil.
\nDidn’t didn’t look like he had <\/p>\n
538
\n00:30:08,680 –> 00:30:12,240
\nmuch, didn’t even have a pillow,
\nbut he had some oil and he takes<\/p>\n
539
\n00:30:12,240 –> 00:30:14,720
\nit and he pours it over the rock
\nthat he was sleeping on. <\/p>\n
540
\n00:30:15,560 –> 00:30:19,800
\nIt’s the first occasion we have
\nanointing, so he institutes the <\/p>\n
541
\n00:30:19,800 –> 00:30:22,240
\nidea of anointing.
\nWhy would you do that? <\/p>\n
542
\n00:30:22,800 –> 00:30:25,120
\nNow there’s some beautiful
\nechoes all the way to the <\/p>\n
543
\n00:30:25,120 –> 00:30:27,960
\nMessiah, to Christ, absolutely.
\nBut why would you do that? <\/p>\n
544
\n00:30:28,960 –> 00:30:32,080
\nI put it to you.
\nHe’s understanding the exchange <\/p>\n
545
\n00:30:32,080 –> 00:30:35,840
\nbetween heaven and earth.
\nAnd the first is that earth will<\/p>\n
546
\n00:30:35,840 –> 00:30:40,640
\nhost the meaning, the meaning of
\nheaven that this pillar comes to<\/p>\n
547
\n00:30:40,640 –> 00:30:43,440
\nrepresent the fact that you’ve
\nmade these promises and it’s my <\/p>\n
548
\n00:30:43,440 –> 00:30:47,680
\nresponsibility to host it.
\nAnd so in a sense that the oil <\/p>\n
549
\n00:30:47,680 –> 00:30:50,280
\nis is is the.
\nSpirit, as we will see later on <\/p>\n
550
\n00:30:50,280 –> 00:30:53,440
\nin the Tabernacle, in the temple
\nthat is poured out on the earth,<\/p>\n
551
\n00:30:53,440 –> 00:30:57,120
\nit’s heaven poured on earth, it
\nmakes something holy. <\/p>\n
552
\n00:30:57,760 –> 00:31:00,320
\nThat’s what’s going on there.
\nWe receive. <\/p>\n
553
\n00:31:00,440 –> 00:31:02,200
\nThe purpose and the meaning from
\nheaven. <\/p>\n
554
\n00:31:03,160 –> 00:31:06,600
\nAnd then what does he do?
\nHe says what I’ll do is I’ll <\/p>\n
555
\n00:31:06,600 –> 00:31:09,600
\ntake the power that I have and I
\nwill make an offering. <\/p>\n
556
\n00:31:11,280 –> 00:31:13,160
\nIn this specific example, he
\nsays, I’ll give you a 10th of <\/p>\n
557
\n00:31:13,160 –> 00:31:15,600
\neverything I’ve got.
\nYou want to understand where the<\/p>\n
558
\n00:31:15,600 –> 00:31:17,560
\nbasis for offering and sacrifice
\nis. <\/p>\n
559
\n00:31:18,720 –> 00:31:21,840
\nWell, you see, once once I
\nunderstand that I’m hosting a <\/p>\n
560
\n00:31:21,840 –> 00:31:25,320
\npurpose, I will give up what I
\nhave towards that purpose. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:31:26,280 –> 00:31:28,920
\nMy life completely, that the
\nthings that I do now are <\/p>\n
562
\n00:31:29,040 –> 00:31:33,720
\noriented towards that purpose
\nand things must be given up so <\/p>\n
563
\n00:31:33,720 –> 00:31:36,840
\nthat I can be refined towards
\nthat purpose. <\/p>\n
564
\n00:31:37,560 –> 00:31:40,360
\nThat’s the principle of
\nsacrifice, and we know that to <\/p>\n
565
\n00:31:40,360 –> 00:31:43,960
\nbe true at all layers when we
\nhave a purpose. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:31:44,160 –> 00:31:47,760
\nWe refine ourselves towards that
\npurpose and those principles I <\/p>\n
567
\n00:31:47,760 –> 00:31:51,000
\nhope are being demonstrated in
\nmy little picture here and and <\/p>\n
568
\n00:31:51,000 –> 00:31:53,880
\nwe know that just to put it all
\ntogether, as we were saying <\/p>\n
569
\n00:31:53,880 –> 00:31:58,240
\nyesterday, the true way in which
\nthat comes together is through <\/p>\n
570
\n00:31:58,240 –> 00:32:00,720
\nthe Lord Jesus Christ.
\nHe’s the one that that truly <\/p>\n
571
\n00:32:01,080 –> 00:32:04,560
\nmade that connection possible,
\ncertainly for us. <\/p>\n
572
\n00:32:05,120 –> 00:32:09,720
\nAnd so it is that Jesus says in
\nJohn one in verse 51 at the very<\/p>\n
573
\n00:32:09,720 –> 00:32:12,280
\nend when he’s talking to
\nNathaniel and he says, you think<\/p>\n
574
\n00:32:12,280 –> 00:32:14,600
\nit was amazing.
\nThat I could tell you that you <\/p>\n
575
\n00:32:14,600 –> 00:32:16,720
\nwere sitting under the fig tree.
\nYou’re going to see greater <\/p>\n
576
\n00:32:16,720 –> 00:32:21,760
\nthings coming.
\nYou will see the angels going up<\/p>\n
577
\n00:32:21,760 –> 00:32:26,720
\nand down the Son of Man.
\nHe pulls back from Genesis 28 <\/p>\n
578
\n00:32:26,920 –> 00:32:28,720
\nand says, actually, I’m the
\nlatter. <\/p>\n
579
\n00:32:29,600 –> 00:32:33,400
\nI’m the VAV.
\nI’m the true ultimate connector <\/p>\n
580
\n00:32:33,600 –> 00:32:36,480
\nbetween heaven and earth.
\nSo really so many of the ideas <\/p>\n
581
\n00:32:36,480 –> 00:32:38,840
\nwe’re trying to share with are
\nare in that space. <\/p>\n
582
\n00:32:41,840 –> 00:32:44,760
\nWe’ve caught this section
\nsymbolic synergy, and we are <\/p>\n
583
\n00:32:44,760 –> 00:32:48,840
\nthere at last.
\nSo we talk a lot about symbols <\/p>\n
584
\n00:32:49,400 –> 00:32:52,520
\nin our public or conversations,
\nour spiritual conversations. <\/p>\n
585
\n00:32:52,520 –> 00:32:57,440
\nBut of course, symbols are are
\nused throughout language and, <\/p>\n
586
\n00:32:57,440 –> 00:33:00,440
\nand, and I want to spend a bit
\nof time maybe just using the <\/p>\n
587
\n00:33:00,440 –> 00:33:04,080
\nheaven and earth lens to show
\nyou the value that symbols can <\/p>\n
588
\n00:33:04,080 –> 00:33:06,120
\nhave when we approach them
\ncorrectly. <\/p>\n
589
\n00:33:06,840 –> 00:33:10,920
\nSo we’re specifically wanting to
\nfocus on symbols as they relate <\/p>\n
590
\n00:33:11,200 –> 00:33:14,520
\nto heavenly things because
\nsymbols can be used in all sorts<\/p>\n
591
\n00:33:14,520 –> 00:33:16,080
\nof areas.
\nAlthough many of the principles <\/p>\n
592
\n00:33:16,080 –> 00:33:18,080
\nactually that we talk about
\napply as well. <\/p>\n
593
\n00:33:18,520 –> 00:33:23,160
\nSo here’s a very sort of generic
\ndefinition for a symbol. <\/p>\n
594
\n00:33:23,680 –> 00:33:28,360
\nA symbol is a mark, a sign, a
\nword or object that represents <\/p>\n
595
\n00:33:28,360 –> 00:33:31,840
\nor stands for something else,
\ntypically an idea, an object, a <\/p>\n
596
\n00:33:31,840 –> 00:33:35,600
\nconcept or relationship.
\nSymbols can be visual, verbal, <\/p>\n
597
\n00:33:35,840 –> 00:33:37,920
\nbehavioural and they often
\ncarry. <\/p>\n
598
\n00:33:37,920 –> 00:33:40,840
\nSpecific meanings or convey
\nparticular messages that go <\/p>\n
599
\n00:33:40,840 –> 00:33:44,080
\nbeyond their literal sense.
\nSo here’s an interesting thing. <\/p>\n
600
\n00:33:44,640 –> 00:33:48,080
\nIf you look at that definition,
\nwe see that that’s exactly what <\/p>\n
601
\n00:33:48,080 –> 00:33:49,920
\nwe’re encountering with the
\nduality of heaven and earth, <\/p>\n
602
\n00:33:50,560 –> 00:33:53,840
\nthat what we have in a symbol is
\nsomething that is. <\/p>\n
603
\n00:33:54,280 –> 00:33:58,240
\nPhysical in the sense that it
\nmight be visual, it might be <\/p>\n
604
\n00:33:58,240 –> 00:34:01,880
\nsomething we can hear, it might
\nbe a behaviour that we practice <\/p>\n
605
\n00:34:02,840 –> 00:34:07,920
\nthat is connected to a more
\nimportant idea or message or, or<\/p>\n
606
\n00:34:07,920 –> 00:34:11,719
\nconcept.
\nAnd when those two things come <\/p>\n
607
\n00:34:11,719 –> 00:34:16,760
\ntogether, there is a, a power,
\nsomething more than they are <\/p>\n
608
\n00:34:16,760 –> 00:34:19,239
\napart, as it were.
\nI, I like to call that a <\/p>\n
609
\n00:34:19,239 –> 00:34:20,960
\nsynergy.
\nThat’s why we’re calling this <\/p>\n
610
\n00:34:20,960 –> 00:34:23,800
\nsymbolic synergy.
\nAnd it’s really important to <\/p>\n
611
\n00:34:23,800 –> 00:34:26,840
\nhave that framework because, you
\nknow, sometimes you hear people <\/p>\n
612
\n00:34:26,840 –> 00:34:30,639
\nsaying, well, it’s only a
\nsymbol, like as if symbols don’t<\/p>\n
613
\n00:34:30,639 –> 00:34:34,000
\nreally matter.
\nWe, we have this idea that a <\/p>\n
614
\n00:34:34,000 –> 00:34:36,159
\nsymbol is just a visual aid or a
\nmetaphor. <\/p>\n
615
\n00:34:36,159 –> 00:34:38,719
\nWell, that would be a mistake.
\nIt can be both of. <\/p>\n
616
\n00:34:38,719 –> 00:34:40,520
\nThose.
\nBut it’s something more than <\/p>\n
617
\n00:34:40,520 –> 00:34:42,120
\nthat.
\nIt’s the idea. <\/p>\n
618
\n00:34:42,280 –> 00:34:45,239
\nThat if we can keep the symbol
\nand understand all of its <\/p>\n
619
\n00:34:45,239 –> 00:34:49,120
\nphysical attributes and can be
\nsensitized towards them whilst <\/p>\n
620
\n00:34:49,120 –> 00:34:53,320
\nat the same time joining it.
\nWith the heavenly that we can <\/p>\n
621
\n00:34:53,320 –> 00:34:57,000
\nexperience the true transform
\nformation that is intended in <\/p>\n
622
\n00:34:57,000 –> 00:35:01,160
\nsymbols.
\nNow as we know in the old <\/p>\n
623
\n00:35:01,160 –> 00:35:04,880
\ncovenant there were many more
\nsymbols that God actually put in<\/p>\n
624
\n00:35:04,880 –> 00:35:08,360
\nplace to help with this very
\nthing, to help people on a <\/p>\n
625
\n00:35:08,360 –> 00:35:11,160
\nconstant basis to be joining
\nheaven and earth. <\/p>\n
626
\n00:35:12,080 –> 00:35:15,960
\nAnd we know that what happened
\nto a large extent is they <\/p>\n
627
\n00:35:15,960 –> 00:35:19,520
\nfailed.
\nThey failed to to work with the <\/p>\n
628
\n00:35:19,560 –> 00:35:24,200
\nearth, the object or practice in
\na way that it was joining the <\/p>\n
629
\n00:35:24,200 –> 00:35:27,360
\nheavenly.
\nAnd so eventually you had these <\/p>\n
630
\n00:35:27,360 –> 00:35:29,240
\nkind of verdicts like we have in
\nAmos. <\/p>\n
631
\n00:35:29,480 –> 00:35:31,960
\nI hate, I despise your religious
\nfestivals. <\/p>\n
632
\n00:35:32,120 –> 00:35:33,840
\nYour assemblies are a stench to
\nme. <\/p>\n
633
\n00:35:34,040 –> 00:35:36,160
\nEven though you bring me burnt
\nofferings and grain offerings, I<\/p>\n
634
\n00:35:36,160 –> 00:35:38,200
\nwill not accept them.
\nThough you bring choice <\/p>\n
635
\n00:35:38,200 –> 00:35:40,840
\nfellowship offerings, I will
\nhave no regard for them. <\/p>\n
636
\n00:35:41,160 –> 00:35:44,160
\nAway with the noise of your
\nsongs, I will not listen to the <\/p>\n
637
\n00:35:44,160 –> 00:35:48,320
\nmusic of your hops.
\nBut let justice roll on like a <\/p>\n
638
\n00:35:48,320 –> 00:35:52,640
\nriver, righteousness like a
\nnever failing stream. <\/p>\n
639
\n00:35:53,400 –> 00:35:55,520
\nSo what’s happened there?
\nWell, of course. <\/p>\n
640
\n00:35:56,400 –> 00:36:00,720
\nAs is, is something that we’re
\nall at risk of doing when that <\/p>\n
641
\n00:36:00,880 –> 00:36:06,760
\nearthly practice or that earthly
\nthing no longer is working <\/p>\n
642
\n00:36:06,760 –> 00:36:12,560
\ntogether to amplify and to host
\nthe heavenly idea well, it just <\/p>\n
643
\n00:36:12,560 –> 00:36:15,920
\nbecomes an object.
\nOr at worst, it becomes an idol,<\/p>\n
644
\n00:36:16,000 –> 00:36:19,240
\nsomething that we’re addicted
\nto, to, to being with because we<\/p>\n
645
\n00:36:19,240 –> 00:36:22,000
\nthink it has some value in and
\nof itself. <\/p>\n
646
\n00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:26,000
\nWhen the ritual is something
\nwe’re just going through the <\/p>\n
647
\n00:36:26,000 –> 00:36:28,440
\nmotions and we’ve lost its
\nconnection and its ability to <\/p>\n
648
\n00:36:28,440 –> 00:36:30,720
\nconnect us with heaven, it just
\nbecomes a ritual In the <\/p>\n
649
\n00:36:30,720 –> 00:36:32,360
\npractice.
\nI should rather say it becomes a<\/p>\n
650
\n00:36:32,360 –> 00:36:34,920
\nritual.
\nAnd so it’s no longer actually a<\/p>\n
651
\n00:36:34,920 –> 00:36:36,160
\nsymbol.
\nBy definition. <\/p>\n
652
\n00:36:37,480 –> 00:36:39,720
\nThe connection is lost.
\nIt’s a ritual. <\/p>\n
653
\n00:36:39,720 –> 00:36:43,840
\nIt’s an idol, it’s an object.
\nBut when they are merged <\/p>\n
654
\n00:36:43,840 –> 00:36:48,880
\ntogether, there is this power of
\nsymbolic synergy. <\/p>\n
655
\n00:36:49,920 –> 00:36:52,680
\nSo these symbols all around, and
\nwe’re going to talk about them <\/p>\n
656
\n00:36:52,680 –> 00:36:56,040
\nfor a moment.
\nIn the time that remains, as <\/p>\n
657
\n00:36:56,040 –> 00:36:58,640
\nI’ve said, I think there’s
\nsomething way more powerful than<\/p>\n
658
\n00:36:58,640 –> 00:37:03,480
\nperhaps we perhaps traditionally
\nas a community put to these <\/p>\n
659
\n00:37:03,480 –> 00:37:06,280
\nsymbols.
\nAnd, and really it’s this idea <\/p>\n
660
\n00:37:06,280 –> 00:37:09,680
\nof participating in a more
\nactivated way to being <\/p>\n
661
\n00:37:09,680 –> 00:37:13,960
\nintentional, present and curious
\nwhen you are working with <\/p>\n
662
\n00:37:13,960 –> 00:37:15,920
\nsymbols.
\nSo the new covenant, we know <\/p>\n
663
\n00:37:15,920 –> 00:37:20,600
\nthat many of the symbols of the
\nold covenant are, well, you <\/p>\n
664
\n00:37:20,600 –> 00:37:23,840
\nmight argue removed, but
\ncertainly they are certainly not<\/p>\n
665
\n00:37:23,840 –> 00:37:26,080
\nrequired.
\nAnd I would say to you that <\/p>\n
666
\n00:37:26,080 –> 00:37:29,760
\nactually the idea of any symbol
\nbeing required as something you <\/p>\n
667
\n00:37:29,760 –> 00:37:32,280
\nhave to do for salvation.
\nWell, that doesn’t work. <\/p>\n
668
\n00:37:32,320 –> 00:37:34,240
\nAnd we’ll talk a bit more about
\nthat tomorrow because we’re <\/p>\n
669
\n00:37:34,240 –> 00:37:36,800
\nsaved by grace.
\nSo we’re, we’re looking at it <\/p>\n
670
\n00:37:36,800 –> 00:37:39,120
\nfrom the wrong angle, but
\ncertainly when we come to the <\/p>\n
671
\n00:37:39,120 –> 00:37:41,640
\nNew covenant, I want to focus on
\nsome of the symbols that we’re <\/p>\n
672
\n00:37:41,640 –> 00:37:45,920
\nall familiar with and some of
\nthem you might not think of <\/p>\n
673
\n00:37:45,920 –> 00:37:47,000
\nsymbols.
\nOne of the. <\/p>\n
674
\n00:37:47,000 –> 00:37:50,440
\nSymbols, that is, by our
\ndefinition, a symbol is the fact<\/p>\n
675
\n00:37:50,440 –> 00:37:53,480
\nthat we practice music and and
\nsinging as worship. <\/p>\n
676
\n00:37:53,760 –> 00:37:56,280
\nYou’ll see that was one of the
\nexamples given by Amos. <\/p>\n
677
\n00:37:56,520 –> 00:37:59,320
\nSo that’s an earthly activity,
\nall right. <\/p>\n
678
\n00:37:59,520 –> 00:38:03,320
\nYou can hear the music, you hear
\neverybody else singing. <\/p>\n
679
\n00:38:03,400 –> 00:38:05,480
\nYou can actually watch them
\nsinging, which is often a lot <\/p>\n
680
\n00:38:05,480 –> 00:38:08,240
\nmore fun.
\nIt’s a material activity, but <\/p>\n
681
\n00:38:08,480 –> 00:38:13,440
\nwhat we do is we try and connect
\nthat with heavenly ideas and so.<\/p>\n
682
\n00:38:13,680 –> 00:38:16,960
\nIt’s the right symbol when the
\ntwo things come together <\/p>\n
683
\n00:38:17,000 –> 00:38:18,920
\nbeautifully.
\nAnd of course, this has been <\/p>\n
684
\n00:38:18,920 –> 00:38:21,720
\nsomething that’s that’s been,
\nyou know, around for a long <\/p>\n
685
\n00:38:21,720 –> 00:38:24,280
\ntime.
\nThe first song that we actually <\/p>\n
686
\n00:38:24,280 –> 00:38:27,080
\nhave recorded in the Bible is
\nwhen Moses and the children of <\/p>\n
687
\n00:38:27,080 –> 00:38:30,920
\nIsrael go to the Red Sea and
\nMoses comes through successfully<\/p>\n
688
\n00:38:31,120 –> 00:38:35,520
\nand in Exodus. 15 We read Moses,
\nand the Israelites sang this <\/p>\n
689
\n00:38:35,520 –> 00:38:37,840
\nsong to the Lord, and we’ve got
\nall the words of the song, we <\/p>\n
690
\n00:38:37,840 –> 00:38:39,160
\njust don’t have the music.
\nPity. <\/p>\n
691
\n00:38:39,560 –> 00:38:43,880
\nSo we’ve got the first song
\nthere, and this symbol of <\/p>\n
692
\n00:38:43,880 –> 00:38:47,280
\nsinging and praising goes all
\nthe way through to this ultimate<\/p>\n
693
\n00:38:47,440 –> 00:38:48,960
\nexample we have here in
\nRevelation. <\/p>\n
694
\n00:38:48,960 –> 00:38:51,720
\nFive of this beautiful song.
\nThat we’re going to be able to <\/p>\n
695
\n00:38:51,720 –> 00:38:54,960
\nparticipate in with a, with a
\nchoir and with musical <\/p>\n
696
\n00:38:54,960 –> 00:38:58,360
\ninstruments like we can’t even
\nbegin to imagine. <\/p>\n
697
\n00:38:59,160 –> 00:39:04,800
\nBut the beauty is like now and
\nlater on today we are going to <\/p>\n
698
\n00:39:04,800 –> 00:39:07,200
\nbe able to have a moment to try
\nand experience. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:39:07,200 –> 00:39:09,160
\nIt.
\nAnd that’s what’s happening when<\/p>\n
700
\n00:39:09,160 –> 00:39:13,160
\nwe are engaging in singing and
\nmusical worship. <\/p>\n
701
\n00:39:14,600 –> 00:39:16,680
\nAnd so when someone says to me,
\nwell, all that matters is the <\/p>\n
702
\n00:39:16,680 –> 00:39:19,160
\nwords, well, they don’t
\nunderstand heaven and earth, <\/p>\n
703
\n00:39:19,760 –> 00:39:22,320
\nthen we might as well just put
\nthe music off and let someone <\/p>\n
704
\n00:39:22,320 –> 00:39:25,520
\njust read the words.
\nNo, that’s not what’s going on. <\/p>\n
705
\n00:39:25,520 –> 00:39:28,160
\nYet something else is happening.
\nThe earthly element is <\/p>\n
706
\n00:39:28,160 –> 00:39:30,360
\namplifying the message we know.
\nThis is true. <\/p>\n
707
\n00:39:31,120 –> 00:39:33,640
\nYou, you know that you’ve been
\nin the circumstance in your life<\/p>\n
708
\n00:39:33,640 –> 00:39:37,520
\nwhere suddenly there’s been some
\nmusic or a song and you’re able <\/p>\n
709
\n00:39:37,520 –> 00:39:39,920
\nto connect with it, meaning that
\nperhaps because of the <\/p>\n
710
\n00:39:39,920 –> 00:39:41,840
\ncircumstance of your life or
\nwhatever that’s going through, <\/p>\n
711
\n00:39:41,840 –> 00:39:44,640
\nyou’ve never been able to do
\nbefore and you will move deeply.<\/p>\n
712
\n00:39:46,120 –> 00:39:49,440
\nThis is what’s going on this.
\nIs the the, the, the power of a <\/p>\n
713
\n00:39:49,440 –> 00:39:53,960
\nsymbol when it’s approached in
\nthe correct way kind of running <\/p>\n
714
\n00:39:53,960 –> 00:39:55,080
\nout of time, but I want to do
\nthis. <\/p>\n
715
\n00:39:55,840 –> 00:39:59,560
\nYou know, Handel, he wrote that
\nbeautiful Handel’s Messiah. <\/p>\n
716
\n00:39:59,560 –> 00:40:02,240
\nHe was actually inspired, I
\ndidn’t know this, but that <\/p>\n
717
\n00:40:02,240 –> 00:40:04,320
\npassage there to write Handel’s
\nMessiah. <\/p>\n
718
\n00:40:04,320 –> 00:40:06,640
\nSo I thought he would have been
\nan Isaiah, but that’s actually <\/p>\n
719
\n00:40:06,640 –> 00:40:11,600
\nthe original passage that
\ninspired him to use music to to <\/p>\n
720
\n00:40:11,600 –> 00:40:15,040
\ntry and join all of these ideas
\ntogether with the earth. <\/p>\n
721
\n00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:18,320
\nAnd he wrote that, that that
\nwhole, is it called a concerto, <\/p>\n
722
\n00:40:18,960 –> 00:40:21,720
\nthe whole thing.
\nWhat do you call that? <\/p>\n
723
\n00:40:21,720 –> 00:40:24,040
\nI don’t know why I’m looking at
\nyou, but she’s got experience <\/p>\n
724
\n00:40:24,440 –> 00:40:27,160
\nhandles oratorio.
\nThere we go. <\/p>\n
725
\n00:40:27,160 –> 00:40:28,160
\nI knew it was something like
\nthat. <\/p>\n
726
\n00:40:28,160 –> 00:40:30,400
\nHe wrote the whole oratorio in
\n24 days. <\/p>\n
727
\n00:40:31,400 –> 00:40:32,760
\nHe kind of.
\nLocked himself up. <\/p>\n
728
\n00:40:32,760 –> 00:40:35,680
\nHe just like he was just so
\nmoved and and I’m sure you you <\/p>\n
729
\n00:40:35,680 –> 00:40:41,760
\nwould be able to to remember
\nthis part of it if it works. <\/p>\n
730
\n00:40:57,480 –> 00:41:26,120
\nNone.
\nSorry you got to hear my voice <\/p>\n
731
\n00:41:26,120 –> 00:41:30,760
\nagain, but like, how do we how
\ndo we activate that more? <\/p>\n
732
\n00:41:30,760 –> 00:41:33,600
\nHow do we participate with it?
\nAre we just going to be passive <\/p>\n
733
\n00:41:33,600 –> 00:41:36,800
\nin our music, or are we going to
\nlisten as clearly as we can to <\/p>\n
734
\n00:41:36,800 –> 00:41:38,520
\nall the elements of the
\ninstruments? <\/p>\n
735
\n00:41:38,920 –> 00:41:41,960
\nAre we going to be intentional
\nwhen we stand up to sing? <\/p>\n
736
\n00:41:42,160 –> 00:41:44,480
\nYou know, some of us don’t quite
\nhave the voices of others, but <\/p>\n
737
\n00:41:44,480 –> 00:41:46,200
\nthen we’ll try and make a joyful
\nnoise to the Lord. <\/p>\n
738
\n00:41:46,360 –> 00:41:48,960
\nOr we’re going to activate in
\nthe hope that the more we <\/p>\n
739
\n00:41:48,960 –> 00:41:54,040
\nparticipate in the music, in
\nlistening carefully, using all <\/p>\n
740
\n00:41:54,040 –> 00:41:56,360
\nof our senses whilst at the same
\ntime. <\/p>\n
741
\n00:41:57,360 –> 00:42:00,840
\nJoining it to the heavenly
\nconcepts and ideas that that’s <\/p>\n
742
\n00:42:00,840 –> 00:42:02,840
\nthe moment of transformation
\navailable for us. <\/p>\n
743
\n00:42:03,040 –> 00:42:06,520
\nThat is how the symbol can bold
\nthe experience of our <\/p>\n
744
\n00:42:06,520 –> 00:42:08,600
\nrelationship with God in our
\nlives. <\/p>\n
745
\n00:42:09,040 –> 00:42:11,760
\nAnd that’s an example in
\nsinging. <\/p>\n
746
\n00:42:14,920 –> 00:42:19,160
\nHe’s going to start singing.
\nWhat about another one? <\/p>\n
747
\n00:42:19,880 –> 00:42:25,760
\nHere’s a symbol, baptism.
\nNow we we know that the physical<\/p>\n
748
\n00:42:25,760 –> 00:42:30,160
\nact of baptism cannot be saving
\nus, but yet we as a community <\/p>\n
749
\n00:42:30,160 –> 00:42:32,080
\nwill say that you should be
\nbaptized. <\/p>\n
750
\n00:42:32,640 –> 00:42:36,000
\nWell, again, it’s because we’re
\npracticing the idea of the power<\/p>\n
751
\n00:42:36,000 –> 00:42:38,920
\nof the symbol.
\nIf there was no power in the <\/p>\n
752
\n00:42:38,920 –> 00:42:42,760
\nearthly aspect of that, in other
\nwords, going down into the <\/p>\n
753
\n00:42:42,760 –> 00:42:45,440
\nwater, taking the first breath
\nwhen you come out of the water, <\/p>\n
754
\n00:42:45,640 –> 00:42:49,000
\nif there was no, no value in
\nthat, then we might as well call<\/p>\n
755
\n00:42:49,000 –> 00:42:51,840
\nthose who want to be baptized
\ntogether, show them a picture <\/p>\n
756
\n00:42:51,920 –> 00:42:54,120
\nand say, let me use this as a
\nvisual aid to show you what <\/p>\n
757
\n00:42:54,120 –> 00:42:57,680
\nreally you’re coming to do,
\nwhich is just, you know, this is<\/p>\n
758
\n00:42:57,680 –> 00:43:01,000
\nthe spiritual idea that you are
\nhaving your sins washed away. <\/p>\n
759
\n00:43:01,800 –> 00:43:04,680
\nThat you are going to become a
\nnew creation, that you’re going <\/p>\n
760
\n00:43:04,680 –> 00:43:07,080
\nto be associated with the death
\nand resurrection of Jesus. <\/p>\n
761
\n00:43:07,200 –> 00:43:08,480
\nHave you got it?
\nYes, you’ve got it. <\/p>\n
762
\n00:43:08,600 –> 00:43:11,880
\nWell, that’s fine, but that’s
\nnot the way it works. <\/p>\n
763
\n00:43:12,960 –> 00:43:15,560
\nWe, we, we, we intrinsically
\nbelieve. <\/p>\n
764
\n00:43:15,920 –> 00:43:19,160
\nAnd I believe we are right when
\nwe look at all of this, this <\/p>\n
765
\n00:43:19,160 –> 00:43:23,840
\npattern of heaven and earth,
\nthat the participation in this <\/p>\n
766
\n00:43:23,840 –> 00:43:28,320
\nsymbol is incredibly valuable.
\nSo that’s baptism. <\/p>\n
767
\n00:43:28,560 –> 00:43:32,920
\nWell, let’s move it to one
\nfurther step, the breaking of <\/p>\n
768
\n00:43:32,920 –> 00:43:37,880
\nbread and wine.
\nSo yes, again, if I had to ask <\/p>\n
769
\n00:43:37,880 –> 00:43:40,280
\nyou what’s going on here, lots
\nof spiritual ideas, lots of <\/p>\n
770
\n00:43:40,280 –> 00:43:46,040
\nheavenly ideas, forgiveness,
\nunity, sacrifice, remembering <\/p>\n
771
\n00:43:46,040 –> 00:43:49,680
\nthe Lord Jesus Christ, all of
\nthose are heavenly principles <\/p>\n
772
\n00:43:49,680 –> 00:43:53,480
\nideas.
\nSo again, if the symbol is just <\/p>\n
773
\n00:43:53,480 –> 00:43:56,680
\na visual aid, just put a picture
\nup there, or maybe just put it <\/p>\n
774
\n00:43:56,680 –> 00:43:58,680
\non the front and you can look at
\nit and that can remind you. <\/p>\n
775
\n00:43:59,480 –> 00:44:03,160
\nBut we don’t do that.
\nWe want to I love the way Paul <\/p>\n
776
\n00:44:03,160 –> 00:44:05,200
\nsays it.
\nPerhaps I’m I’m cheating a bit <\/p>\n
777
\n00:44:05,200 –> 00:44:07,480
\nwith the use of the word in this
\nparticular content, But he says <\/p>\n
778
\n00:44:08,120 –> 00:44:10,720
\nis not the cup of Thanksgiving
\nfor which we give thanks a <\/p>\n
779
\n00:44:10,720 –> 00:44:13,760
\nparticipation in the blood of
\nChrist and is not the bread that<\/p>\n
780
\n00:44:13,760 –> 00:44:16,800
\nwe break a participation.
\nThere’s this invitation to <\/p>\n
781
\n00:44:16,800 –> 00:44:19,240
\nparticipate.
\nThere’s an earthly element to <\/p>\n
782
\n00:44:19,240 –> 00:44:22,160
\nit.
\nThere’s, there’s the opportunity<\/p>\n
783
\n00:44:22,160 –> 00:44:24,400
\nfor you to raise all of your
\nsenses. <\/p>\n
784
\n00:44:24,640 –> 00:44:27,800
\nAnd you know, if you think about
\nit as as a symbol that Jesus <\/p>\n
785
\n00:44:27,800 –> 00:44:32,520
\ninstituted, it’s very sensory.
\nThere’s the visual element of <\/p>\n
786
\n00:44:32,520 –> 00:44:36,760
\nthe bread and wine.
\nThere’s the texture in your <\/p>\n
787
\n00:44:36,760 –> 00:44:41,400
\nmouth or in your hands.
\nThere’s the taste, there’s the <\/p>\n
788
\n00:44:41,400 –> 00:44:45,200
\nsmell, all of those elements of
\nearth. <\/p>\n
789
\n00:44:45,200 –> 00:44:48,480
\nAnd, and, and what do we do?
\nAre we heartening those? <\/p>\n
790
\n00:44:48,480 –> 00:44:52,720
\nAre we thinking about them as we
\nas we eat the bread and as we <\/p>\n
791
\n00:44:52,720 –> 00:44:56,240
\ntaste the wine and as we’re
\ndoing that and we’re heartening <\/p>\n
792
\n00:44:56,240 –> 00:45:00,440
\nour physical senses, we’re
\njoining that as much as we can <\/p>\n
793
\n00:45:00,440 –> 00:45:02,720
\nwith all of the ideas that are
\nrepresented by it. <\/p>\n
794
\n00:45:02,840 –> 00:45:05,400
\nAnd in that moment, there’s a
\nmoment of transformation. <\/p>\n
795
\n00:45:06,760 –> 00:45:09,760
\nYou don’t need me to tell you
\nthat some of you have had 2500 <\/p>\n
796
\n00:45:09,960 –> 00:45:13,520
\nopportunities or more.
\nI was seeing a calculation to. <\/p>\n
797
\n00:45:13,680 –> 00:45:16,720
\nTo break bread and drink wine.
\nBut you know that there have <\/p>\n
798
\n00:45:16,720 –> 00:45:19,320
\nbeen those moments when just
\neverything has come together, <\/p>\n
799
\n00:45:19,520 –> 00:45:23,720
\nand in the very act of the
\nparticipation, something moved <\/p>\n
800
\n00:45:23,720 –> 00:45:27,000
\ndeep within you.
\nAnd you never think to yourself,<\/p>\n
801
\n00:45:27,000 –> 00:45:29,280
\nwell, I’ve done it 2500 times
\nup. <\/p>\n
802
\n00:45:29,520 –> 00:45:32,160
\nI won’t bother to do it the 2500
\nand first time because I know <\/p>\n
803
\n00:45:32,160 –> 00:45:33,200
\nwhat it’s, I know what it’s
\nlike. <\/p>\n
804
\n00:45:34,440 –> 00:45:38,440
\nNo, we’re intentional.
\nWe’re present and we’re. <\/p>\n
805
\n00:45:38,440 –> 00:45:42,880
\nCurious, we expect there to be
\nan opportunity for something to <\/p>\n
806
\n00:45:42,880 –> 00:45:47,040
\nsurprise us, something to to be
\nnew to be revealed to us in a <\/p>\n
807
\n00:45:47,040 –> 00:45:50,640
\nway that we haven’t seen it
\nbefore and you know, sometimes <\/p>\n
808
\n00:45:50,640 –> 00:45:54,280
\nI, I do get a bit concerned
\nbecause, you know, we come to <\/p>\n
809
\n00:45:54,280 –> 00:45:57,000
\nthe breaking of bread and, and.
\nOf course, there’s so many <\/p>\n
810
\n00:45:57,000 –> 00:46:00,720
\nthings going on here.
\nYes, yes, it’s about reminding <\/p>\n
811
\n00:46:00,720 –> 00:46:02,320
\nus about the death and
\nresurrection of Jesus. <\/p>\n
812
\n00:46:02,320 –> 00:46:05,280
\nAnd yes, there’s an element of
\nthe breaking of bread that says <\/p>\n
813
\n00:46:05,280 –> 00:46:07,640
\nthat Jesus is going to do it
\nagain with us in the Kingdom. <\/p>\n
814
\n00:46:08,760 –> 00:46:11,360
\nAnd, and we use the term, I
\ndon’t know about you, but, but <\/p>\n
815
\n00:46:11,360 –> 00:46:13,680
\nover in South Africa, we call it
\nthe memorial service. <\/p>\n
816
\n00:46:15,440 –> 00:46:18,560
\nI don’t like it.
\nI know it has some basis because<\/p>\n
817
\n00:46:18,560 –> 00:46:21,200
\nJesus said Remember Me.
\nAnd so we take the word remember<\/p>\n
818
\n00:46:21,200 –> 00:46:23,080
\nand we say memorial.
\nBut you know, the problem is in <\/p>\n
819
\n00:46:23,080 –> 00:46:25,520
\ntoday’s language we have
\nmemorial services for dead <\/p>\n
820
\n00:46:25,520 –> 00:46:29,160
\npeople.
\nWe put up memorial plots for <\/p>\n
821
\n00:46:29,160 –> 00:46:32,400
\ndead people.
\nWhat is going on? <\/p>\n
822
\n00:46:32,800 –> 00:46:36,360
\nWhat makes this particular
\nparticipation so powerful? <\/p>\n
823
\n00:46:36,360 –> 00:46:40,960
\nJesus says this is my body, this
\nis my blood. <\/p>\n
824
\n00:46:41,320 –> 00:46:46,560
\nI am your living Saviour.
\nI’m alive and present and so as <\/p>\n
825
\n00:46:46,560 –> 00:46:50,880
\nyou’re participating in that, in
\nthat eating of the bread and the<\/p>\n
826
\n00:46:50,880 –> 00:46:53,440
\ndrinking of the wine, you’re
\nparticipating in adjoining of <\/p>\n
827
\n00:46:53,440 –> 00:46:57,840
\nheaven and earth in the most
\npowerful way, the very one who <\/p>\n
828
\n00:46:57,880 –> 00:47:03,400
\nis the bar, the very nail
\npresent and wanting to enter <\/p>\n
829
\n00:47:03,400 –> 00:47:06,400
\ninto you.
\nYou know, I heard it once <\/p>\n
830
\n00:47:06,400 –> 00:47:08,520
\ncontroversial.
\nHe said that the most. <\/p>\n
831
\n00:47:08,520 –> 00:47:12,240
\nUseless thing we do is to break
\nbread and drink wine. <\/p>\n
832
\n00:47:13,160 –> 00:47:14,800
\nI thought I’d say that to see if
\nanybody’s still awake. <\/p>\n
833
\n00:47:15,000 –> 00:47:18,120
\nThe most useless thing we do is
\nto break bread and drink wine <\/p>\n
834
\n00:47:18,120 –> 00:47:19,480
\nnow you might say.
\nWhy do you say that? <\/p>\n
835
\n00:47:19,480 –> 00:47:24,440
\nWell, because we use the word
\nuse to mean that we have <\/p>\n
836
\n00:47:24,440 –> 00:47:26,200
\nsomething that has another
\npurpose. <\/p>\n
837
\n00:47:26,400 –> 00:47:30,960
\nLike scissors are useful.
\nI use them so that I can cut a <\/p>\n
838
\n00:47:30,960 –> 00:47:33,240
\npiece of paper or do whatever I
\nwant with them. <\/p>\n
839
\n00:47:33,240 –> 00:47:36,120
\nThe scissors of themselves, I
\nmean they are there for a use. <\/p>\n
840
\n00:47:37,120 –> 00:47:39,160
\nThe breaking of bread and the
\ndrinking of wine. <\/p>\n
841
\n00:47:39,840 –> 00:47:42,400
\nYes, it can have a lot of uses.
\nWe can come and we can learn and<\/p>\n
842
\n00:47:42,400 –> 00:47:47,080
\nwe can we can praise.
\nBut it is in of itself a <\/p>\n
843
\n00:47:47,080 –> 00:47:51,160
\npowerful moment for the joining
\nof heaven and earth, for your <\/p>\n
844
\n00:47:51,160 –> 00:47:56,560
\nfaith, for your relationship.
\nIt is in and of itself the <\/p>\n
845
\n00:47:56,560 –> 00:48:00,160
\nmoment that you can experience
\nheaven and earth joining. <\/p>\n
846
\n00:48:02,200 –> 00:48:04,520
\nI’m ready. 5 minutes over.
\nSo we’ve got some exciting stuff<\/p>\n
847
\n00:48:04,520 –> 00:48:07,520
\nto talk about how Jesus
\ninteracted with symbols and I <\/p>\n
848
\n00:48:07,560 –> 00:48:09,080
\ndon’t think I’m going to do that
\nnow. <\/p>\n
849
\n00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:12,240
\nSo thank you for your diligent
\nattention and for not walking <\/p>\n
850
\n00:48:12,240 –> 00:48:12,640
\nout on me.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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