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\nbrother and sisters.
\nOur subject for the second talk <\/p>\n
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\nis dealing with the Man of Sin
\nin 2nd Thessalonians 2, but I’d <\/p>\n
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\nlike to draw some threads over
\nfrom our first study and join <\/p>\n
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\nthem into this second very
\nimportant study which has very <\/p>\n
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\nclose links with Daniel.
\nAnyways, as we’ll see what we’ve<\/p>\n
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\nseen so far, I hope, is that our
\nsubject of the continuity of <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon is something indeed
\nthat’s easily to demonstrate <\/p>\n
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\nright back from the time of
\nGenesis, right straight through <\/p>\n
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\nthe Old Testament.
\nThat says a lot for the <\/p>\n
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\ncontinuity of this theme.
\nWe have seen that the early <\/p>\n
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\nreferences in Genesis tie in
\nthis subject of Babylon with <\/p>\n
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\nsome very important associations
\nas early on as the life of <\/p>\n
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\nAbraham.
\nIt becomes an antagonistic city <\/p>\n
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\nor power to the people of God.
\nIt’s conjunction with Jerusalem <\/p>\n
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\nand Daniel.
\nChapter one, verse one. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s important to note, since
\nit’s those two cities that <\/p>\n
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\nfigure so prominently in the
\nBook of Revelation. <\/p>\n
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\nWe know from the Book of
\nRevelation that in somehow, some<\/p>\n
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\nway Babylon as a real power is
\nstill on the earth in some form <\/p>\n
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\nof manifestation at the time of
\nChrist’s return. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’ve seen that there is value
\nin looking at the book of Daniel<\/p>\n
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\nin Revelation from the point of
\nview of large pictures, big <\/p>\n
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\nthemes, the beasts being one
\nvery important large picture, <\/p>\n
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\nand we should hope that by
\ngetting that picture understood,<\/p>\n
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\nsome of the smaller supporting
\ndetails will fit into a definite<\/p>\n
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\npattern.
\nWe have seen that the question <\/p>\n
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\nof the beasts in Revelation has
\nto find part of its answer from <\/p>\n
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\nthe book of Daniel itself.
\nSince those beasts are drawn <\/p>\n
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\nfrom that source, we’ve seen how
\nBabylon is glued to this whole <\/p>\n
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\nquestion of the beasts.
\nThey are brought together very <\/p>\n
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\nearly on in the book of Daniel
\nbeing set in Babylon as it is. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd again later on, as we’ve
\nseen in Revelation, we <\/p>\n
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\nterminated our first class in
\nthe book of Zechariah, where we <\/p>\n
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\nhave the last reference to
\nShinar or Babylon in the Old <\/p>\n
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\nTestament in conjunction with a
\nwoman. <\/p>\n
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\nNow, brothers and sisters, we’re
\ngoing to move quickly through <\/p>\n
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\nthree key passages.
\nAnd Daniel, I’d like to spend a <\/p>\n
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\nlot more time on them.
\nWe’ll come back from time to <\/p>\n
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\ntime in the next two studies.
\nWe’re not going to do them full <\/p>\n
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\njustice, but only to pick up a
\nfew more concepts that are <\/p>\n
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\nimportant to support the big
\npicture. <\/p>\n
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\nSo Daniel, chapter two we have
\non the overhead for you fairly <\/p>\n
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\nstandard representation of
\nDaniel’s dream. <\/p>\n
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\nThere are details in this dream
\nwhich deserve careful attention <\/p>\n
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\nas they relate to our theme of
\nBabylon continuous. <\/p>\n
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\nLet’s just notice the following.
\nIt is a fairly standard approach<\/p>\n
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\nto emphasize, when we’re using
\nNebuchadnezzar’s image in public<\/p>\n
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\nlectures, the fact that this is
\nour most remarkable prophecy, <\/p>\n
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\ndealing with the sequence of
\nfour great empires. <\/p>\n
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\nWe tend in presentations such as
\nthat to put a tremendous amount <\/p>\n
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\nof emphasis on these metals
\nrepresenting distinct national <\/p>\n
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\npowers that were once on the
\nearth. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd there’s a sense of
\ncorrectness about that, of <\/p>\n
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\ncourse.
\nI fear that at times we may <\/p>\n
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\nperhaps put the emphasis on the
\nwrong syllable by doing that. <\/p>\n
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\nNo doubt that it is the most
\nremarkable prophecy in advance <\/p>\n
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\ntelling of four great world
\nempires, and it’s valuable for <\/p>\n
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\nthe public platform from that
\npoint of view. <\/p>\n
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\nBut we can perhaps overemphasize
\nthe thought that these four <\/p>\n
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\nmetals were essentially
\nrepresenting 4 political <\/p>\n
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\nnational powers that came and
\nwent. <\/p>\n
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\nI say we perhaps can
\noveremphasize that aspect, and <\/p>\n
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\nwe’ll try to demonstrate why we
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\nin mind.
\nWell, first as an overview, it’s<\/p>\n
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\nrather curious isn’t it, that as
\nwe go from the gold head down to<\/p>\n
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\nthe base metal and clay at the
\nbottom, we have a descending <\/p>\n
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\ngold being the most valued. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd of course down to iron and
\nclay which are base, we have a <\/p>\n
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\ndescending scale of values.
\nNow what seems to be curious in <\/p>\n
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\nthat regard is the following.
\nIn your notes I have a map <\/p>\n
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\nfurnished for you on page 4
\nwhere we have the boundaries of <\/p>\n
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\nthese four empires outlined for
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\nI just notice the following When
\nwe move from Babylon in the <\/p>\n
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\nfirst map to Rome in the last,
\nBabylon was relatively small as <\/p>\n
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\nan empire compared to the
\nPersian Empire which followed. <\/p>\n
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\nThe Grecian Empire was much
\nlarger than the Babylonian, <\/p>\n
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\nat its zenith.
\nRome is about the same size as <\/p>\n
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\nmaybe not quite as large as the <\/p>\n
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\nPersian Empire.
\nNow I ask you, brothers and <\/p>\n
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\nfrom a very valuable metal to <\/p>\n
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\nportray Babylon down to the
\nbasest of all metals at the <\/p>\n
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\nbottom, when in fact the size,
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\nRome or Greece or Persia would
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\nAnd yet, gold is what’s placed <\/p>\n
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\nFirst of all, chapter 2 of
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\neven though they have larger
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\nVerse 37.
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\nstrength, and glory. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd wheresoever the children of
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\nfield, the fowls of heaven, hath
\nhe given unto thine hand, and <\/p>\n
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\nhath made thee ruler over them
\nall Thou art this head of gold. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd as we go through the
\ndescriptions of the remaining <\/p>\n
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\nWhy such an attention to what
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\nthe empires?
\nFurthermore, in chapter two we <\/p>\n
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\nfind this description given to
\nMedo, Persia. <\/p>\n
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\nWe look at verse 38 and 39.
\nWheresoever the children have <\/p>\n
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\nmeant well the beast, the field,
\nthe fowls, that they haven’t <\/p>\n
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\nhath he given his thine hand,
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\nover them all.
\nThou art this head of gold. <\/p>\n
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\nThen verse 39, After thee shall
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\nto thee, and another third
\nKingdom of brass, which shall <\/p>\n
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\nbear rule over all the earth.
\nNow wait a minute. <\/p>\n
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\nHow is that true?
\nAs a matter of political <\/p>\n
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\nhistory, let’s just remind
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\nThat Medo Persia could be
\ndescribed as being inferior to <\/p>\n
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\nInferior then? <\/p>\n
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\nIn what sense?
\nThe puzzle, when you think about<\/p>\n
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\nit, You have the descending
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\nthe statement that Medo Persia
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\nGod is issuing here as being
\ninferior. <\/p>\n
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\nas far as the borders of India
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\nunder Cyrus.
\nSo we might ask ourselves, <\/p>\n
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\nwhat’s the sense in which it is
\ninferior? <\/p>\n
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\nAgain, I’m just going to ask you
\nto suspend your judgment on <\/p>\n
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\nthat.
\nFurthermore, why does it say of <\/p>\n
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\ngrace that she bears rule over
\nall the earth? <\/p>\n
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\nWhat political truth was there
\nin that? <\/p>\n
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\nWell, let’s just review our
\nhistory. <\/p>\n
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\nAlexander the Great, who’s
\ndescribed in Daniel 8 as the <\/p>\n
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\nlittle horn that comes up.
\nAlexander the Great conquered <\/p>\n
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\nafter his father Philip of
\nMacedon, a large part of the <\/p>\n
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\nMediterranean world, and he too
\nwent over almost to the borders <\/p>\n
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\nof India.
\nBut as Daniel Eight shows, <\/p>\n
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\nAlexander held on to that
\ndominion for a very, very short <\/p>\n
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\nperiod of time.
\nHe no longer he no sooner had <\/p>\n
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\nconquered all those territories
\nthan he died within about a <\/p>\n
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\nyear.
\nHe himself never presided over <\/p>\n
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\nthat empire for very long.
\nHe never really enjoyed, in <\/p>\n
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\nother words, the fruits of his
\nvictory. <\/p>\n
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\nIn fact, he never even got back
\nhome. <\/p>\n
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\nHe died away from home on his
\ncampaign back. <\/p>\n
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\nBut furthermore, shortly after
\nAlexander died, the four <\/p>\n
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\ngenerals that emerged after him
\ncarved up his empire into four, <\/p>\n
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\nand then into other parts
\nbesides. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd there really was no single
\nrulership of Greece under one <\/p>\n
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\nhead over the whole dominion
\nlike there was with <\/p>\n
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\nNebuchadnezzar.
\nLet’s say there never was a time<\/p>\n
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\nwhen Greece had that kind of
\nrulership as a matter of <\/p>\n
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\npolitical history.
\nSo there’s some sense in which <\/p>\n
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\nmedo Persia is inferior to the
\nrulership of Babylon. <\/p>\n
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\nThere is some sense in which
\nGreece is said to bear rule over<\/p>\n
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\nall the earth.
\nHow could that be? <\/p>\n
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\nIt didn’t seem.
\nIt doesn’t seem to ring true if <\/p>\n
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\none just looks at the facts of
\npolitical history. <\/p>\n
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\nUnless there is some other
\nperspective, of course, that God<\/p>\n
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\nhas in mind some other values by
\nwhich he is measuring the <\/p>\n
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\nrulership or the control or the
\ndominance of these powers. <\/p>\n
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\nLet’s just look at another
\ndetail concerning the metals. <\/p>\n
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\nDaniel chapter 2.
\nGoing back to verse 35, take a <\/p>\n
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\nlook at this one.
\nThen was the iron, the clay, the<\/p>\n
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\nbrass, the silver and the gold
\nbroke into pieces together and <\/p>\n
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\nbecame like the chaff of the
\nsummer threshing floors. <\/p>\n
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\nProblem is, what does it mean
\nbroken to pieces together? <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s at the time when the
\nstone strikes the image. <\/p>\n
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\nOf course, it’s at the time of
\nChrist’s return, but how could <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon political still be
\ndescribed as being in the earth?<\/p>\n
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\nWill ancient Greece be on the
\nearth as a real power, when <\/p>\n
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\nChrist returns to destroy and
\nbreak in pieces all the metals <\/p>\n
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\ntogether?
\nWill ancient Rome be on the <\/p>\n
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\nearth at that time, as she was
\nonce a great political power <\/p>\n
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\nruled by a Senate or by a
\nCaesar? <\/p>\n
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\nIn what sense then could it be
\nsaid that these medals are still<\/p>\n
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\npresent at the return of Christ
\nto be destroyed together? <\/p>\n
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\nAnd of course, the context by
\nway of time we can see very <\/p>\n
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\nclearly deals with the latter
\ndays. <\/p>\n
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\nIn other words, there are
\nseveral clues in Daniel chapter <\/p>\n
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\n2.
\nBut God has a perspective here <\/p>\n
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\npolitical powers as they rise <\/p>\n
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\nand fall, as He is concerned,
\nperhaps about another plot or <\/p>\n
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\ntheme altogether.
\nIt’s not to downplay entirely <\/p>\n
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\nthe importance of political
\npower as part of the message, <\/p>\n
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\nbut the sense in which these
\nmedals could be destroyed <\/p>\n
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\ntogether at the return of
\nChrist. <\/p>\n
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\nThe sense in which Medo Persia
\ncould be described as inferior <\/p>\n
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\nto Babylon, considering the
\nfacts of history and the size of<\/p>\n
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\nthe boundaries, points to
\nanother direction. <\/p>\n
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\nNow we will suspend our judgment
\nthere and move on to Daniel. 4IN<\/p>\n
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\nDaniel, chapter four we receive
\na picture of a tree. <\/p>\n
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\nWhen we’re told in the vision
\nthe tree represents Babylon <\/p>\n
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\nNebuchadnezzar, and the tree is
\ncut down. <\/p>\n
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\nNow we get the following
\ninformation. <\/p>\n
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\nHe cried aloud and said thus <\/p>\n
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\nhewed down the tree and cut off
\nhis branches. <\/p>\n
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\nShake off his leaves and scatter
\nhis fruit. <\/p>\n
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\nLet the beasts get away from
\nunder it, and the fowls from his<\/p>\n
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\nNevertheless, nevertheless, <\/p>\n
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\nleave the stump.
\nThat’s the stump of Babylon. <\/p>\n
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\nLeave the stump of his roots in
\nthe earth, even with a band of <\/p>\n
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\niron and brass in the tender
\ngrass of the field, and let it <\/p>\n
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\nbe wet with the dew of heaven,
\nand let its portion be wet with <\/p>\n
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\nthe beasts in the grass of the
\nearth. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat is the brass and the iron
\ndoing together at the same time <\/p>\n
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\nwith this stump which is encased
\nby these two metals? <\/p>\n
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\nWhat does it mean that the roots
\nwill remain in the earth even <\/p>\n
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\nafter the tree is cut down and
\nafter it is cut down and the <\/p>\n
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\nroots remain in the heart of the
\nearth? <\/p>\n
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\nHow is it that the iron and
\nbrass are in a sort of <\/p>\n
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\ncoexistence with the stump of
\nBabylon behind it? <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s not so obvious?
\nYou see the point, brothers and <\/p>\n
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\nsisters.
\nThere aren’t clues here in <\/p>\n
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\nDaniel chapter four that Babylon
\nlives on. <\/p>\n
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\nThere are clues here that
\nBabylon continues as a concern <\/p>\n
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\nin the kingdoms of men.
\nEven after the national power <\/p>\n
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\nthat had certain boundaries and
\nwas ruled by certain dictators <\/p>\n
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\nof Babylon has long since been
\ncut down, there’s some sense in <\/p>\n
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\nwhich Nebuchadnezzar’s empire is
\ngoing to terminate. <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon’s going to be destroyed,
\nbut the roots of Babylon will <\/p>\n
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\nremain in the earth after the
\npolitical power has long since <\/p>\n
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\nbeen destroyed.
\nThere’s a sense in which the <\/p>\n
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\ntogether and are meant to be <\/p>\n
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\nseen together with one another,
\nand they are encasing Babylon, <\/p>\n
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\nThe source, The root is <\/p>\n
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\nis seen to be in conjunction <\/p>\n
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\nwith the iron and the brass.
\nNot the silver, not the silver. <\/p>\n
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\nSomehow, Amito Persia doesn’t
\nfigure as being terribly <\/p>\n
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\nimportant relative to the other
\nfour empires, especially to <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon.
\nThere’s something about Babylon <\/p>\n
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\nthat continues on and is that
\nthe clue as to why the head is <\/p>\n
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\ngold?
\nAs to why Babylon is associated <\/p>\n
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\nwith something that doesn’t
\ntarnish, something that doesn’t <\/p>\n
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\ndisappear in a road with time,
\nthere’s something about Babylon <\/p>\n
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\nthat is not weathered or
\ndestroyed by time it continues <\/p>\n
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\non.
\nIs that the clue And is that <\/p>\n
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\nperhaps the reason why Medo
\nPersia’s importance is <\/p>\n
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\ndownplayed as being inferior?
\nNot in the political sense of <\/p>\n
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\nboundaries and peoples, but
\nrather in terms of the dominant <\/p>\n
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\ninfluence that would continue in
\nthe earth. <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon is pre eminent relative
\nto any of them in Medo. <\/p>\n
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\nPersia is the least of the four
\nin its importance. <\/p>\n
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\nIt is not one of the bands
\naround the sun. <\/p>\n
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\nIt does not continue as silver
\nany further in the prophecies 4 <\/p>\n
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\nWhen we continue in our
\nunderstanding of the prophecies <\/p>\n
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\nwe discover in Daniel Chapter 7.
\nIf you just go there now, <\/p>\n
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\nwe discover in Daniel Chapter 7
\nthat the brass and the iron are <\/p>\n
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\nmentioned once again, this time
\nin relationship to the 4th beast<\/p>\n
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\nwhich has the little horn.
\nNow isn’t that curious that when<\/p>\n
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\nDaniel sees the 4th beast which
\nis destroyed by Christ, Now we <\/p>\n
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\nknow it’s destroyed by Christ
\nbecause in Daniel Chapter 7 <\/p>\n
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\nthat’s spelled out very clearly
\nby the angel’s word and by what <\/p>\n
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\nthe man of God sees in vision
\nhimself? <\/p>\n
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\nFor example, when we come down
\nto verse 11 of Daniel 7, Daniel <\/p>\n
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\nsays he beholds because of the
\nvoice of the great words which <\/p>\n
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\nthe horns spake.
\nI beheld even till the beast was<\/p>\n
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\nslain.
\nThat’s the 4th beast, and his <\/p>\n
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\nbody destroyed and given to the
\nburning flame. <\/p>\n
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\nIsn’t that interesting?
\nThe 4th beast is present at the <\/p>\n
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\nreturn of Christ.
\nThe 4th beast, though, is now <\/p>\n
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\ndescribed by the Angel as having
\ntwo medals. <\/p>\n
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\nIt’s not something Daniel saw at
\nfirst when he observed it, for <\/p>\n
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\nin verse 19.
\nThen I would know the truth of <\/p>\n
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\nthe 4th beast, which was diverse
\nfrom all the others exceeding <\/p>\n
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\ndreadful, whose teeth were of
\niron, and his nails of brass, <\/p>\n
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\nwhich devoured breaking pieces,
\nstamped the residue with his <\/p>\n
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\nfeet.
\nNow we might ask, how could it <\/p>\n
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\nbe that this 4th beast that will
\nbe destroyed by Christ when he <\/p>\n
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\nreturns, which is diverse from
\nthe other three beasts. <\/p>\n
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\nThis little horn which is
\ndescribed as being diverse from <\/p>\n
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\nthe other horns, has organic to
\nthis beast, brass and iron. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a link with the stump.
\nObviously we were not wrong in <\/p>\n
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\nsurmising in Daniel Chapter 4,
\ntherefore that there’s some <\/p>\n
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\nsense in which there’s a
\ncontinuous presence of those <\/p>\n
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\npolitical dominions have <\/p>\n
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\nSomehow the Babylonious route <\/p>\n
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\nremains in the earth after
\nNebuchadnezzar has gone, after <\/p>\n
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\nthe political dominion of
\nBabylon has vanished. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s some sense in which the
\nbrass and the iron that banned <\/p>\n
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\nthat stump are meant to be
\nassociated with the stump that <\/p>\n
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\nlives on, with the roots that
\ncontinue in the heart of the <\/p>\n
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\nearth.
\nNot the silver, but the brass <\/p>\n
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\nand the iron.
\nAnd then in that beast which <\/p>\n
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\narises in Daniel Seven, we’re
\ntold once again that brass and <\/p>\n
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\niron are Co inexistent with one
\nanother. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s some sense in which
\nbrass and iron are still present<\/p>\n
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\nin this beast that is to be
\ndestroyed by Christ, and it’s <\/p>\n
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\nconnected with this little horn
\nthat speaks great things. <\/p>\n
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\nNo wonder then, in
\nNebuchadnezzar’s image, the <\/p>\n
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\nmetals were destroyed together
\nat the return of the stone <\/p>\n
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\nreturn of Christ.
\nNo wonder it could be said that <\/p>\n
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\nthe metals are ground together.
\nThere’s a sense in which those <\/p>\n
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\nmetals have lived on through the
\ncenturies in their influence. <\/p>\n
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\nNow it can’t be, as we said,
\nfirst and foremost in the <\/p>\n
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\npolitical sense.
\nAnd that’s why I said that in <\/p>\n
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\nour lectures we perhaps put the
\nemphasis on a syllable. <\/p>\n
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\nThat isn’t quite the way the
\nscriptures put the emphasis. <\/p>\n
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\nThose four empires must
\nobviously be illustrating powers<\/p>\n
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\nthat are more important and more
\nlong lasting than simply the old<\/p>\n
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\nancient powers with certain
\nboundaries. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a sense in which Iron
\nRome lives on. <\/p>\n
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\nThere’s a sense in which the
\ninfluence of Greece lives on <\/p>\n
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\nbeyond the old empire.
\nThere’s a sense in which the <\/p>\n
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\ninfluence of Medo Persia was
\ninferior relative to these other<\/p>\n
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\npowers in the Earth.
\nThere’s a sense in which even <\/p>\n
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\nafter Nebuchadnezzar’s empire
\nhas fallen and been destroyed by<\/p>\n
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\nthe Persians, in which the roots
\nof Babylon remain in the earth <\/p>\n
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\nand continue on.
\nAre we wrong in that conclusion?<\/p>\n
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\nWe’re not wrong because when we
\nopen the Book of Revelation, <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon is still there.
\nNo wonder Babylon is still there<\/p>\n
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\nbecause Daniel Four has told us
\nso. <\/p>\n
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\nDaniel 4 is the explanation,
\nsurely, of how it is that <\/p>\n
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\nBabylon is present in the Book
\nof Revelation. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat is that power?
\nIn what sense is that power <\/p>\n
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\ncontinuous?
\nIn your note, we try to bring <\/p>\n
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\nthese thoughts together by the
\nfollowing diagrams. <\/p>\n
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\nWe’re introduced to the iron and
\nthe brass. <\/p>\n
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\nWe show how they are shown again
\nin the stump, even after ancient<\/p>\n
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\nBabylon has been cut down and
\ndestroyed. <\/p>\n
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\nAnd we see how that they are
\norganic to the body of the 4th <\/p>\n
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\nbeast which is present to be
\ndestroyed by Christ. <\/p>\n
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\nConclusion, somehow the metal
\nand the brass mean more than <\/p>\n
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\njust the political empire.
\nWhat’s the other choice? <\/p>\n
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\nThen?
\nWhat is the other choice? <\/p>\n
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\nWhat’s the choice of Babylon?
\nHow does Babylon live on to be <\/p>\n
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\npresent at the time of
\nRevelation? <\/p>\n
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\nHow is it that in Zechariah 5
\nthis wicked woman is put into a <\/p>\n
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\njar containing her and holding
\nher down, and is taken to the <\/p>\n
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\nland of Shinar to set up her
\nbase there, when Babylon <\/p>\n
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\npolitical has already been
\ndestroyed at the time of <\/p>\n
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\nZachariah?
\nSee how it ties together? <\/p>\n
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\nSee brothers and sisters.
\nThere’s really a concept here of<\/p>\n
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\ncontinuity that is more
\nimportant than the old political<\/p>\n
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\npower itself.
\nThe only other choice really is <\/p>\n
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\nideology.
\nThere must be something said <\/p>\n
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\n00:23:56,400 –> 00:24:03,440
\nhere about the philosophy, the
\nideas, the apostate beliefs, the<\/p>\n
341
\n00:24:03,440 –> 00:24:10,200
\nrebellious forms of worship, the
\nseeds of error and untruth that <\/p>\n
342
\n00:24:10,200 –> 00:24:14,520
\nare behind these powers.
\nAnd it’s those that live on in <\/p>\n
343
\n00:24:14,520 –> 00:24:16,640
\nthe earth.
\nAnd you know, it’s a fact. <\/p>\n
344
\n00:24:16,640 –> 00:24:20,000
\nYou only have to take a course
\nin classical history university <\/p>\n
345
\n00:24:21,160 –> 00:24:23,240
\nwithout looking very far.
\nIn most of those kind of <\/p>\n
346
\n00:24:23,240 –> 00:24:26,760
\ntextbooks, they’ll start off by
\nsaying that the Western world is<\/p>\n
347
\n00:24:26,760 –> 00:24:31,040
\nfurnished by Greek and Roman
\nideas, Our law system, our <\/p>\n
348
\n00:24:31,040 –> 00:24:34,320
\nvarious codes, some even some
\nthings to do with our language, <\/p>\n
349
\n00:24:34,320 –> 00:24:38,080
\nthe Latanic languages and so on.
\nThe Romance languages all have <\/p>\n
350
\n00:24:38,080 –> 00:24:42,000
\nhad their influence in the
\nthinking, the vocabulary, the <\/p>\n
351
\n00:24:42,000 –> 00:24:44,800
\nvalues, the ideas of Roman
\nGreece. <\/p>\n
352
\n00:24:45,480 –> 00:24:48,360
\nThat is quite apparent to
\nhistorians and scholars even <\/p>\n
353
\n00:24:48,360 –> 00:24:50,680
\ntoday.
\nIt’s not hard to find proof of <\/p>\n
354
\n00:24:50,680 –> 00:24:52,800
\nthat, as we’ve said.
\nBut you know what isn’t so <\/p>\n
355
\n00:24:52,800 –> 00:24:54,840
\nobvious?
\nIt’s in one of those classical <\/p>\n
356
\n00:24:54,840 –> 00:24:57,000
\nhistory classes you were to
\nraise your hand and say, but <\/p>\n
357
\n00:24:57,000 –> 00:24:59,600
\nBabylon, it’s very important
\ntoday too, Sir. <\/p>\n
358
\n00:25:00,160 –> 00:25:02,440
\nBabylon lives on today as well,
\nyou know. <\/p>\n
359
\n00:25:02,440 –> 00:25:04,520
\nYou’d be laughed at.
\nBabylon. <\/p>\n
360
\n00:25:04,520 –> 00:25:07,080
\nNo, no, no.
\nGreece and Rome, yes, not <\/p>\n
361
\n00:25:07,080 –> 00:25:10,360
\nBabylon said yes.
\nFrom God’s point of view, <\/p>\n
362
\n00:25:10,640 –> 00:25:15,320
\nBabylon does live on.
\nThere are ideas, there are <\/p>\n
363
\n00:25:15,320 –> 00:25:18,720
\nbeliefs, there are concepts of
\nworship and so on. <\/p>\n
364
\n00:25:18,720 –> 00:25:22,160
\nThat, in God’s estimation, have
\nhad a continuous corrupting <\/p>\n
365
\n00:25:22,160 –> 00:25:25,520
\ninfluence and a rebellious
\ninfluence down through the years<\/p>\n
366
\n00:25:25,520 –> 00:25:29,640
\nin man’s history.
\nThe historians can see the brass<\/p>\n
367
\n00:25:29,680 –> 00:25:34,240
\nand they can see the iron, but
\nwhat’s not so obvious is the <\/p>\n
368
\n00:25:34,240 –> 00:25:39,960
\nfact that they are encasing a
\nrotten Babylonian stump that is <\/p>\n
369
\n00:25:39,960 –> 00:25:43,480
\nnot obvious to man’s vision.
\nIt’s the iron in the brass which<\/p>\n
370
\n00:25:43,480 –> 00:25:46,960
\nare discernible the most clearly
\nby man, even by an observant <\/p>\n
371
\n00:25:46,960 –> 00:25:49,920
\nscholar.
\nBabylon is not so obvious. <\/p>\n
372
\n00:25:50,440 –> 00:25:55,280
\nBabylon’s influence and ongoing
\ncorruption in the earth is not <\/p>\n
373
\n00:25:55,280 –> 00:25:59,080
\napparent.
\nIt takes the scriptures in God’s<\/p>\n
374
\n00:25:59,200 –> 00:26:03,680
\nvision to see who the real
\nvillain is behind the scenes, as<\/p>\n
375
\n00:26:03,680 –> 00:26:06,800
\nit were.
\nNow, brothers and sisters, that <\/p>\n
376
\n00:26:06,840 –> 00:26:09,440
\nis where I believe the emphasis
\nshould lie. <\/p>\n
377
\n00:26:09,440 –> 00:26:13,120
\nWhen we look at Nebuchadnezzar’s
\nimage, it is first and foremost <\/p>\n
378
\n00:26:13,120 –> 00:26:17,480
\nan image of a man, man’s way of
\ndoing things. <\/p>\n
379
\n00:26:17,800 –> 00:26:21,120
\nIt is an image of man’s
\nthinking. <\/p>\n
380
\n00:26:22,120 –> 00:26:25,960
\nAnd Babylon, back in Genesis 10
\nand Genesis 11, was the first <\/p>\n
381
\n00:26:25,960 –> 00:26:29,800
\nKingdom of man.
\nAnd that’s why in Genesis 10 <\/p>\n
382
\n00:26:30,000 –> 00:26:32,080
\nmention of the Gentiles comes
\nfirst. <\/p>\n
383
\n00:26:32,120 –> 00:26:35,280
\nThe Isles of the Gentiles we
\nread and then we zero in on <\/p>\n
384
\n00:26:35,280 –> 00:26:39,200
\nShinar and Babylon.
\nIt’s the first dominion or <\/p>\n
385
\n00:26:39,200 –> 00:26:42,600
\nKingdom in Genesis 11 that
\nrebelled against God and built <\/p>\n
386
\n00:26:42,600 –> 00:26:45,960
\ntheir own city.
\nCome, let us build our city, man<\/p>\n
387
\n00:26:45,960 –> 00:26:50,480
\nin his world.
\nSo it’s the image of a man man’s<\/p>\n
388
\n00:26:50,480 –> 00:26:52,440
\nway of thinking, man’s way of
\ndoing. <\/p>\n
389
\n00:26:53,360 –> 00:26:56,520
\nAnd in relationship to that,
\nthere are certain influences <\/p>\n
390
\n00:26:56,520 –> 00:27:00,280
\nthat go right back to the
\nbeginning of the kingdoms of men<\/p>\n
391
\n00:27:00,480 –> 00:27:03,320
\nand have had a continuous
\ncorrupting thread down through <\/p>\n
392
\n00:27:03,320 –> 00:27:07,160
\nthe years.
\nThat obviously then explains the<\/p>\n
393
\n00:27:07,160 –> 00:27:10,200
\nsense in which Babylon is still
\npresent in Revelation. <\/p>\n
394
\n00:27:11,880 –> 00:27:16,040
\nNow, brothers and sisters, let’s
\nsee how that ties in then with <\/p>\n
395
\n00:27:16,120 –> 00:27:19,600
\nour theme.
\nBabylon. <\/p>\n
396
\n00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:26,960
\nContinuous in the Earth, Babylon
\nhas a kind of continuity which <\/p>\n
397
\n00:27:26,960 –> 00:27:34,600
\ngoes all through the scriptures.
\nBabylon is not to be viewed so <\/p>\n
398
\n00:27:34,600 –> 00:27:37,880
\nmuch as a political power with
\ndistinct boundaries and a <\/p>\n
399
\n00:27:37,880 –> 00:27:42,600
\ncertain type of rulership.
\nRoman Greece, coming second in <\/p>\n
400
\n00:27:42,600 –> 00:27:47,480
\nimportance, are to be viewed as
\npart of this whole picture, as <\/p>\n
401
\n00:27:47,480 –> 00:27:51,120
\nhaving influences in the earth
\nthat are really far more <\/p>\n
402
\n00:27:51,120 –> 00:27:53,880
\nimportant than just when they
\nwere within certain years on the<\/p>\n
403
\n00:27:53,880 –> 00:27:58,360
\nearth as a political power.
\nSomehow or another, Babylon is <\/p>\n
404
\n00:27:58,360 –> 00:28:02,000
\nfused with those other two, or
\nthey are at least fused with <\/p>\n
405
\n00:28:02,000 –> 00:28:04,960
\nBabylon.
\nAre they not in some ways the <\/p>\n
406
\n00:28:04,960 –> 00:28:08,520
\nmajor perpetrators, the major
\nmouthpieces through which <\/p>\n
407
\n00:28:08,520 –> 00:28:12,120
\nBabylonious Doctrine and
\nBabylonious ideas and concepts <\/p>\n
408
\n00:28:12,440 –> 00:28:16,720
\nwill continue to be spoken and
\ntaught and have their influence <\/p>\n
409
\n00:28:16,800 –> 00:28:21,320
\non the earth, suggest brothers
\nand sisters that that is the <\/p>\n
410
\n00:28:21,320 –> 00:28:24,160
\ncase.
\nIt is the best explanation which<\/p>\n
411
\n00:28:24,160 –> 00:28:27,960
\nexplains the meaning of the
\nstump, how it is related in <\/p>\n
412
\n00:28:27,960 –> 00:28:29,960
\ndrawing 2 metals out of the
\nimage. <\/p>\n
413
\n00:28:30,480 –> 00:28:34,280
\nHow it is that the 4th beast in
\nturn draws out those same 2 <\/p>\n
414
\n00:28:34,280 –> 00:28:37,440
\nmetals and puts them organic to
\na beast that is still present <\/p>\n
415
\n00:28:37,440 –> 00:28:40,720
\nwhen Christ returns.
\nMore than that, look at Daniel <\/p>\n
416
\n00:28:40,720 –> 00:28:45,600
\nSeven once again.
\nEven after the 4th beast is <\/p>\n
417
\n00:28:45,600 –> 00:28:50,400
\ndestroyed in verse 11 there is
\nsomething said you know about <\/p>\n
418
\n00:28:50,400 –> 00:28:53,600
\nthe other beasts that is about
\nthe bear. <\/p>\n
419
\n00:28:54,280 –> 00:28:56,960
\nThere is something implied about
\nthe leopard still. <\/p>\n
420
\n00:28:58,720 –> 00:29:03,200
\nJust notice what is said after
\nthe 4th beast is destroyed. <\/p>\n
421
\n00:29:03,720 –> 00:29:07,200
\nWe read in verse 12 as
\nconcerning the rest of the <\/p>\n
422
\n00:29:07,200 –> 00:29:10,160
\nbeasts.
\nThey had their dominion taken <\/p>\n
423
\n00:29:10,160 –> 00:29:16,200
\naway, yet their lives were
\nprolonged for a season and a <\/p>\n
424
\n00:29:16,200 –> 00:29:19,280
\ntime.
\nThat’s the return of Christ <\/p>\n
425
\n00:29:20,280 –> 00:29:22,320
\nafter he’s destroyed the 4th
\nbeast. <\/p>\n
426
\n00:29:22,520 –> 00:29:27,720
\nThere still is a sense in which
\nthe rest of the beasts, even <\/p>\n
427
\n00:29:27,720 –> 00:29:31,280
\nthough they’re shorn of their
\ndominion, have their lives <\/p>\n
428
\n00:29:31,280 –> 00:29:35,200
\nprolonged.
\nSo they’re present at the return<\/p>\n
429
\n00:29:35,200 –> 00:29:39,560
\nof Christ, and there’s a sense
\nin which they still continue in <\/p>\n
430
\n00:29:39,560 –> 00:29:43,200
\nthe earth in some way or
\nanother, although they don’t <\/p>\n
431
\n00:29:43,200 –> 00:29:47,000
\nhave dominion, although they’re
\nnot exercising real authority <\/p>\n
432
\n00:29:47,000 –> 00:29:50,440
\nand power.
\nEven after Christ act against <\/p>\n
433
\n00:29:50,440 –> 00:29:55,000
\nthe 4th beast, the seeds of
\ntheir influence may be lying <\/p>\n
434
\n00:29:55,000 –> 00:29:56,760
\ndormant.
\nIs still there. <\/p>\n
435
\n00:29:57,840 –> 00:30:00,720
\nThat we believe has a very
\nimportant link with rebellion at<\/p>\n
436
\n00:30:00,720 –> 00:30:04,480
\nthe end of the Millennium.
\nThere still is a sense in which <\/p>\n
437
\n00:30:04,480 –> 00:30:08,720
\nmortal flesh can organize itself
\nat the end and rebel against God<\/p>\n
438
\n00:30:08,720 –> 00:30:11,240
\nin so doing.
\nWhat happens then? <\/p>\n
439
\n00:30:11,520 –> 00:30:15,320
\nThe attitudes, the ideas, the
\nchallenges that occur there at <\/p>\n
440
\n00:30:15,320 –> 00:30:18,600
\nthe end of the Millennium have
\ntheir roots with these beasts. <\/p>\n
441
\n00:30:18,920 –> 00:30:22,720
\nThey still, in a certain sense,
\nare not totally obliterated. <\/p>\n
442
\n00:30:24,280 –> 00:30:28,920
\nThat then, perhaps doesn’t
\nchange by any means 100% our <\/p>\n
443
\n00:30:28,920 –> 00:30:30,760
\nunderstanding of
\nNebuchadnezzar’s image. <\/p>\n
444
\n00:30:30,800 –> 00:30:33,880
\nNot at all.
\nBut there’s a certain emphasis <\/p>\n
445
\n00:30:33,880 –> 00:30:37,320
\nthat perhaps we might give it,
\nnamely the political old empires<\/p>\n
446
\n00:30:37,760 –> 00:30:40,720
\nthat really aren’t the major
\npoint of the lesson. <\/p>\n
447
\n00:30:42,200 –> 00:30:44,920
\nHe wants us to see that Babylon
\ncontinues. <\/p>\n
448
\n00:30:44,920 –> 00:30:48,320
\nHe wants us to notice the brass
\nand iron especially living on <\/p>\n
449
\n00:30:48,560 –> 00:30:52,200
\nand being coextensive with that
\nBabylonious root. <\/p>\n
450
\n00:30:52,520 –> 00:30:55,720
\nThat’s what Daniel for is trying
\nto bring to our attention after <\/p>\n
451
\n00:30:55,720 –> 00:30:58,280
\nthe image.
\nThat’s what Daniel 7’s fourth <\/p>\n
452
\n00:30:58,280 –> 00:31:02,080
\nbeast is trying to emphasize,
\neven after the stump vision has <\/p>\n
453
\n00:31:02,080 –> 00:31:05,600
\nbeen given.
\nAnd you know, when I went back, <\/p>\n
454
\n00:31:05,920 –> 00:31:10,480
\nhaving done this little study
\nmyself, I went back from Eureka.<\/p>\n
455
\n00:31:10,960 –> 00:31:18,240
\nHe says this in volume to page
\n652, that he, Nebuchadnezzar, <\/p>\n
456
\n00:31:18,240 –> 00:31:20,000
\nmight know the thoughts of his
\nheart. <\/p>\n
457
\n00:31:20,920 –> 00:31:24,840
\nA symbolical representation was
\npresented before him in a dream <\/p>\n
458
\n00:31:25,640 –> 00:31:30,800
\nillustrative of the general
\nfortunes and consummation of the<\/p>\n
459
\n00:31:30,800 –> 00:31:33,680
\nKingdom of Babylon.
\nIn the latter days. <\/p>\n
460
\n00:31:34,880 –> 00:31:39,080
\nThomas is constructing that
\nsentence presented before <\/p>\n
461
\n00:31:39,080 –> 00:31:42,760
\nNebuchadnezzar in a dream
\nillustrative of the general <\/p>\n
462
\n00:31:42,760 –> 00:31:47,720
\nfortunes and consummation of the
\nKingdom of Babylon in the latter<\/p>\n
463
\n00:31:47,720 –> 00:31:50,560
\ndays.
\nBut Thomas was looking at that <\/p>\n
464
\n00:31:50,560 –> 00:31:55,520
\nimage as being a representation
\nof things, especially to do with<\/p>\n
465
\n00:31:55,520 –> 00:31:58,880
\nthe last days.
\nNot so much the emphasis of <\/p>\n
466
\n00:31:58,880 –> 00:32:01,520
\nthese being 4 consecutive
\npolitical empires that will come<\/p>\n
467
\n00:32:01,520 –> 00:32:05,000
\nand go.
\nRather he says hence the Kingdom<\/p>\n
468
\n00:32:05,000 –> 00:32:10,480
\nof Babylon has been in
\ncontinuous existence from his <\/p>\n
469
\n00:32:10,480 –> 00:32:14,880
\nreign until now in continuous
\nexistence. <\/p>\n
470
\n00:32:15,720 –> 00:32:19,200
\nSee the point, mother?
\nThomas didn’t have that point to<\/p>\n
471
\n00:32:19,200 –> 00:32:22,040
\nelude him at all.
\nIn fact, the inflection that we <\/p>\n
472
\n00:32:22,040 –> 00:32:26,320
\nplaced on Daniel chapter 2 is
\nsomewhat aside from the emphasis<\/p>\n
473
\n00:32:26,320 –> 00:32:31,360
\nfor the Thomas is giving them in
\ncontinuous existence from his <\/p>\n
474
\n00:32:31,360 –> 00:32:35,120
\nreign until now, for we are
\nliving in the last days. <\/p>\n
475
\n00:32:35,760 –> 00:32:37,440
\nAnother quotation from Mother
\nThomas. <\/p>\n
476
\n00:32:39,480 –> 00:32:43,600
\nThis is a game from Eureka.
\nIt is true that the House of the<\/p>\n
477
\n00:32:43,600 –> 00:32:46,760
\nKingdom has not always been the
\nBabylon, which was the beginning<\/p>\n
478
\n00:32:46,760 –> 00:32:48,800
\nof Nimrod’s dominion, Genesis
\n10. <\/p>\n
479
\n00:32:49,400 –> 00:32:52,800
\nIt has been sometimes at one
\nplace, sometimes at another, <\/p>\n
480
\n00:32:53,280 –> 00:32:55,920
\nuntil at length Rome became the
\nHouse of the great city. <\/p>\n
481
\n00:32:56,720 –> 00:33:00,360
\nVarious dynasties have come,
\nhave become the inheritors. <\/p>\n
482
\n00:33:00,680 –> 00:33:04,440
\nThat’s the key point.
\nThe inheritors of the Kingdom of<\/p>\n
483
\n00:33:04,440 –> 00:33:08,200
\nBabylon after Nebuchadnezzar’s,
\nthere was the Silver Dynasty and<\/p>\n
484
\n00:33:08,200 –> 00:33:11,600
\nthe Brazen Dynasty and the Iron
\nDynasty and the Clay Dynasty. 5 <\/p>\n
485
\n00:33:11,600 –> 00:33:15,680
\ndynasties ruling over the one in
\nthe same Kingdom, called also <\/p>\n
486
\n00:33:15,680 –> 00:33:17,880
\nthe Kingdom of Men.
\nSee the point? <\/p>\n
487
\n00:33:18,200 –> 00:33:21,840
\nThe image is a picture of the
\nKingdom of Men and Babylon is <\/p>\n
488
\n00:33:21,840 –> 00:33:24,880
\nshown to be in continuous
\nexistence through the Kingdoms <\/p>\n
489
\n00:33:24,880 –> 00:33:28,280
\nof Men.
\nAgain, another quotation, this <\/p>\n
490
\n00:33:28,280 –> 00:33:31,560
\ntime from the third volume.
\nThe literal Babylon was the <\/p>\n
491
\n00:33:31,560 –> 00:33:36,720
\nbeginner and supporter of
\ntyranny and idolatry, first by <\/p>\n
492
\n00:33:36,720 –> 00:33:38,960
\nNimrod and afterwards by
\nNebuchadnezzar. <\/p>\n
493
\n00:33:38,960 –> 00:33:42,720
\nTherefore, in Isaiah 47 and 12,
\nshe’s accused of the magical <\/p>\n
494
\n00:33:42,720 –> 00:33:47,680
\nenchantments from her youth or
\ninfancy, namely from the very <\/p>\n
495
\n00:33:47,680 –> 00:33:52,320
\nfirst origin of her being a city
\nor nation Literal Babylon was <\/p>\n
496
\n00:33:52,320 –> 00:33:58,320
\nthe beginner and the supporter
\nof tyranny and idolatry. <\/p>\n
497
\n00:33:59,280 –> 00:34:03,160
\nIt’s the ideology the brother
\nThomas is underscoring as the <\/p>\n
498
\n00:34:03,200 –> 00:34:07,440
\nmost important that is connected
\nwith the continuous existence of<\/p>\n
499
\n00:34:07,440 –> 00:34:10,880
\nthat power finding.
\nFrom his book on Daniel, the <\/p>\n
500
\n00:34:10,880 –> 00:34:14,080
\nKingdom of man has been
\ndiversified in his constitution,<\/p>\n
501
\n00:34:14,080 –> 00:34:17,760
\nextent and throne.
\nSince its foundation by Nimrod <\/p>\n
502
\n00:34:17,760 –> 00:34:21,840
\nto the present time, it has
\nnevertheless been the same <\/p>\n
503
\n00:34:22,080 –> 00:34:27,840
\nNimrodian Kingdom with Babylon
\nand Assyria for its <\/p>\n
504
\n00:34:27,840 –> 00:34:31,760
\ncharacteristics.
\nNow to be honest with you, <\/p>\n
505
\n00:34:31,760 –> 00:34:35,159
\nbrothers and sisters, I must
\nadmit, having gone through this <\/p>\n
506
\n00:34:35,320 –> 00:34:40,040
\nexercise myself, come to these
\nconclusions myself, I was amazed<\/p>\n
507
\n00:34:40,040 –> 00:34:42,880
\nand somewhat ashamed to go back
\nand finally check out these <\/p>\n
508
\n00:34:42,880 –> 00:34:45,920
\nreferences to Brother Thomas’s
\nwritings and discover that <\/p>\n
509
\n00:34:45,920 –> 00:34:48,080
\nreally that was his emphasis
\nhimself. <\/p>\n
510
\n00:34:49,719 –> 00:34:53,320
\nIt’s not so much a picture of a
\nsuccessive, A successive number <\/p>\n
511
\n00:34:53,320 –> 00:34:57,880
\nof empires as it is that these
\nempires pick up a common chorus.<\/p>\n
512
\n00:34:58,400 –> 00:35:01,480
\nAnd these powers, two of them
\nespecially Roman Greece, become <\/p>\n
513
\n00:35:01,480 –> 00:35:06,120
\nthe most vocal agent for this
\ntyranny and idolatry in the <\/p>\n
514
\n00:35:06,120 –> 00:35:09,120
\nkingdoms of men.
\nAnd that’s the common thread. <\/p>\n
515
\n00:35:09,480 –> 00:35:12,200
\nAnd that surely is the plot of
\nthe story. <\/p>\n
516
\n00:35:14,400 –> 00:35:16,440
\nSo we’re really not trying to
\nsay anything radical, brothers <\/p>\n
517
\n00:35:16,440 –> 00:35:19,760
\nand sisters.
\nIt amounts to a matter of <\/p>\n
518
\n00:35:19,760 –> 00:35:23,760
\nemphasis, but it’s an emphasis
\nwe believe that can’t be lost <\/p>\n
519
\n00:35:23,760 –> 00:35:27,680
\nsight of.
\nTell you why recent expositions <\/p>\n
520
\n00:35:28,920 –> 00:35:33,480
\nhave tended to stress a gap
\nperspective in Daniel and <\/p>\n
521
\n00:35:33,480 –> 00:35:35,360
\nRevelation.
\nWe won’t go into that in detail,<\/p>\n
522
\n00:35:35,360 –> 00:35:39,200
\nbut some recent expositions in
\nthe Brotherhood have tended to <\/p>\n
523
\n00:35:39,280 –> 00:35:44,120
\nstress the idea that
\nNebuchadnezzar’s image and some <\/p>\n
524
\n00:35:44,120 –> 00:35:47,640
\nof the other visions in Daniel
\nare looking at a picture where <\/p>\n
525
\n00:35:47,640 –> 00:35:50,400
\nwe have a continuous line up to
\na certain point and a mammoth <\/p>\n
526
\n00:35:50,400 –> 00:35:53,160
\ngap.
\nAnd then after that gap is over,<\/p>\n
527
\n00:35:53,160 –> 00:35:57,040
\nwith a whole number of details
\nfrom Revelation and Daniel are <\/p>\n
528
\n00:35:57,040 –> 00:36:00,800
\nsqueezed into that 3 1\/2 final
\nyears at the time of Christ’s <\/p>\n
529
\n00:36:00,800 –> 00:36:03,160
\nreturn.
\nIt’s what we would call a <\/p>\n
530
\n00:36:03,160 –> 00:36:07,920
\nparenthesis or a gap perspective
\non the timeline of prophecy in <\/p>\n
531
\n00:36:07,920 –> 00:36:12,120
\nDaniel in Revelation.
\nNow I believe that what we’ve <\/p>\n
532
\n00:36:12,120 –> 00:36:16,720
\nseen so far completely counters
\nthat the picture and the <\/p>\n
533
\n00:36:16,720 –> 00:36:21,040
\nemphasis in Daniel 4 and
\nNebuchadnezzar’s image is a <\/p>\n
534
\n00:36:21,080 –> 00:36:25,600
\nperspective of continuity of no
\ngap whatsoever. <\/p>\n
535
\n00:36:25,920 –> 00:36:29,920
\nBabylon is there and has always
\nbeen there and manifest its <\/p>\n
536
\n00:36:29,960 –> 00:36:33,560
\ninfluence on the earth in many,
\nmany forms through 2 chief <\/p>\n
537
\n00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:38,920
\nagents, Greek and Roman
\nideology, but it’s really <\/p>\n
538
\n00:36:38,960 –> 00:36:43,440
\nBabylon down below now, brothers
\nand sisters. <\/p>\n
539
\n00:36:43,480 –> 00:36:45,920
\nWith that in mind, we’d like to
\ntake a look now, and we’ll <\/p>\n
540
\n00:36:45,960 –> 00:36:49,200
\nperhaps need more than just this
\nclass at the Man of Sin. <\/p>\n
541
\n00:36:50,400 –> 00:36:53,720
\nAnd we’re going to see, I
\nbelieve, how this prophecy in <\/p>\n
542
\n00:36:53,720 –> 00:36:58,720
\nthe New Testament is a great
\nhelp in unlocking some of the <\/p>\n
543
\n00:36:58,720 –> 00:37:02,440
\nmore difficult parts of our
\nexpositions of Daniel and <\/p>\n
544
\n00:37:02,440 –> 00:37:07,800
\nRevelation.
\nSo let’s take a look at 2nd <\/p>\n
545
\n00:37:07,840 –> 00:37:15,000
\nThessalonians chapter two.
\nFirst we’re going to look at it <\/p>\n
546
\n00:37:15,000 –> 00:37:18,800
\nfrom an overview, and then we’re
\ngoing to take a look at some of <\/p>\n
547
\n00:37:18,800 –> 00:37:21,720
\nits finer details.
\nBut we’re going to do it with a <\/p>\n
548
\n00:37:21,720 –> 00:37:26,120
\nspecific purpose in mind.
\nWe’re going to discover that <\/p>\n
549
\n00:37:26,120 –> 00:37:30,000
\nthis book, or rather this
\nprophecy in 2nd Thessalonians 2 <\/p>\n
550
\n00:37:30,600 –> 00:37:33,720
\nhas undoubtedly linked with
\nRevelation and Daniel. <\/p>\n
551
\n00:37:34,640 –> 00:37:39,720
\nIn fact, all of our recent
\nexpositions that have taken a <\/p>\n
552
\n00:37:39,720 –> 00:37:42,600
\ndifferent course from that of
\nBrother Thomas, all of our <\/p>\n
553
\n00:37:42,600 –> 00:37:46,520
\nrecent expositions have all
\nagreed on at least one thing, <\/p>\n
554
\n00:37:46,520 –> 00:37:51,520
\nand that is that the Man of sin,
\nprophecy and the beast system <\/p>\n
555
\n00:37:51,520 –> 00:37:53,360
\nand Daniel revelation are one of
\nthe same. <\/p>\n
556
\n00:37:53,440 –> 00:37:57,360
\nThat is agreed by the three
\nchief expositions in the <\/p>\n
557
\n00:37:57,360 –> 00:38:00,280
\ncommunity today that take a
\ndifferent course than that found<\/p>\n
558
\n00:38:00,280 –> 00:38:03,360
\nin Eureka.
\nThey have a common note on this <\/p>\n
559
\n00:38:03,680 –> 00:38:06,120
\nthat the man of sin is linked
\nwith the beast system. <\/p>\n
560
\n00:38:06,480 –> 00:38:08,880
\nWho he is and who they are is
\none of the same. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:38:08,880 –> 00:38:12,600
\nNow that’s important to have
\nseen that common denominator and<\/p>\n
562
\n00:38:12,600 –> 00:38:17,120
\nbear that in mind.
\nIf we then can solve the mystery<\/p>\n
563
\n00:38:17,120 –> 00:38:21,960
\nof who the man of sin is, if we
\ncan solve the mystery of who the<\/p>\n
564
\n00:38:21,960 –> 00:38:26,520
\nman of sin is, we have it’s so
\nfactor, the old saying <\/p>\n
565
\n00:38:26,560 –> 00:38:30,480
\nautomatically got the key as to
\nwho the beast system is. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:38:31,160 –> 00:38:33,840
\nWe’ve got the key of who it is
\nnot only in Daniel but in <\/p>\n
567
\n00:38:33,840 –> 00:38:36,280
\nRevelation.
\nAnd I believe that’s a valid <\/p>\n
568
\n00:38:36,440 –> 00:38:39,320
\nstatement to make.
\nThe connections with those two <\/p>\n
569
\n00:38:39,320 –> 00:38:43,120
\nother books, Daniel in
\nRevelation make it obvious that <\/p>\n
570
\n00:38:43,120 –> 00:38:46,720
\nhere is a master key in
\nexplaining identity. <\/p>\n
571
\n00:38:47,800 –> 00:38:50,680
\nAs I said, even the other three
\nmajor expositions that differ so<\/p>\n
572
\n00:38:50,680 –> 00:38:54,080
\nwidely from Bubba Thomas have
\nthemselves concluded from the <\/p>\n
573
\n00:38:54,080 –> 00:38:58,000
\nclues within this prophecy.
\nBut you can’t separate it from <\/p>\n
574
\n00:38:58,000 –> 00:39:00,840
\nthe B system in either Daniel or
\nRevelation to that we would <\/p>\n
575
\n00:39:00,840 –> 00:39:03,280
\nagree conclusions would be
\notherwise. <\/p>\n
576
\n00:39:03,400 –> 00:39:06,040
\nSo we want to start off by
\nsaying, as we look at 2nd <\/p>\n
577
\n00:39:06,040 –> 00:39:10,360
\nThessalonians 2, what’s the
\nnature of this man, this man of <\/p>\n
578
\n00:39:10,360 –> 00:39:11,640
\nsin?
\nIs he religious? <\/p>\n
579
\n00:39:12,280 –> 00:39:15,840
\nIs he essentially political?
\nOr is he both? <\/p>\n
580
\n00:39:16,880 –> 00:39:21,200
\nAnd what’s the timing?
\nIs this man of sin a power that <\/p>\n
581
\n00:39:21,200 –> 00:39:26,800
\nis to arise only in the future,
\nlet’s say at the time of Christ,<\/p>\n
582
\n00:39:26,800 –> 00:39:28,440
\nas some of our brethren have
\nsuggested? <\/p>\n
583
\n00:39:29,320 –> 00:39:33,080
\nDoes he represent a power or a
\nsystem that would arise <\/p>\n
584
\n00:39:33,120 –> 00:39:38,520
\nimmediate to the time of the
\napostle, contemporary with him, <\/p>\n
585
\n00:39:38,920 –> 00:39:41,600
\nand only contemporary for a few
\nyears, and then go away and <\/p>\n
586
\n00:39:41,600 –> 00:39:44,280
\nthat’s it?
\nOr instead, does the man of sin <\/p>\n
587
\n00:39:44,280 –> 00:39:48,280
\nrepresent a continuous link past
\nand future? <\/p>\n
588
\n00:39:48,920 –> 00:39:50,400
\nNow let’s bear those questions
\nin mind. <\/p>\n
589
\n00:39:50,400 –> 00:39:52,920
\nI’ve got to come back to them
\nwhen we finish our exposition of<\/p>\n
590
\n00:39:52,920 –> 00:39:55,720
\n2nd Thessalonians 2.
\nTwo key questions. <\/p>\n
591
\n00:39:55,720 –> 00:39:58,160
\nNow remember what we said in our
\nfirst class? <\/p>\n
592
\n00:39:59,200 –> 00:40:01,960
\nThe man who asked the right
\nquestions is the one who’s going<\/p>\n
593
\n00:40:01,960 –> 00:40:05,160
\nto find the right answers.
\nA lot of it depends on what <\/p>\n
594
\n00:40:05,160 –> 00:40:06,720
\nquestions you’re asking
\nyourself. <\/p>\n
595
\n00:40:07,560 –> 00:40:11,680
\nWe can fresh around in this
\nwhole area of study and ask all <\/p>\n
596
\n00:40:11,680 –> 00:40:14,040
\nkinds of questions that won’t be
\nhelpful at first. <\/p>\n
597
\n00:40:14,720 –> 00:40:18,160
\nWho are the frog like spirits?
\nWhy is the #666? <\/p>\n
598
\n00:40:18,160 –> 00:40:21,760
\nAll kinds of supporting detail,
\nBut they are the small details, <\/p>\n
599
\n00:40:22,160 –> 00:40:25,240
\nThe supporting detail.
\nIf you start with those, we may <\/p>\n
600
\n00:40:25,240 –> 00:40:28,120
\nnever find a satisfactory answer
\nto the big picture. <\/p>\n
601
\n00:40:28,800 –> 00:40:32,000
\nWe’re looking at the B system,
\nand we’re looking at some <\/p>\n
602
\n00:40:32,000 –> 00:40:34,360
\nimportant concepts that are tied
\nwith it. <\/p>\n
603
\n00:40:34,720 –> 00:40:38,560
\nIf we master that and have a
\nrelatively good understanding of<\/p>\n
604
\n00:40:38,560 –> 00:40:42,160
\nwhat that represents, then the
\nother pieces of the puzzle will <\/p>\n
605
\n00:40:42,160 –> 00:40:44,920
\nfit in.
\nSo here we come to a New <\/p>\n
606
\n00:40:44,920 –> 00:40:48,880
\nTestament passage.
\nIt’s nowhere near as symbolic as<\/p>\n
607
\n00:40:48,880 –> 00:40:51,720
\nDaniel.
\nIt’s not a symbolic book like <\/p>\n
608
\n00:40:51,720 –> 00:40:55,360
\nRevelation.
\nThe clues for the timing and the<\/p>\n
609
\n00:40:55,360 –> 00:40:59,920
\nnature of this man are much
\neasier to discern than Daniel <\/p>\n
610
\n00:40:59,920 –> 00:41:01,720
\nseven or the Beast of
\nRevelation. <\/p>\n
611
\n00:41:02,000 –> 00:41:05,480
\nSo it’s kind of like starting
\nwith the easier section that’s <\/p>\n
612
\n00:41:05,480 –> 00:41:08,640
\nrelevant to an answer to our
\nquestion, who are the beasts? <\/p>\n
613
\n00:41:09,040 –> 00:41:13,200
\nWhat are they?
\nWell, let’s very quickly take a <\/p>\n
614
\n00:41:13,200 –> 00:41:17,680
\nlook at how the prophecy of a
\nman of sin is structured. <\/p>\n
615
\n00:41:18,520 –> 00:41:22,280
\nThis reveals a great deal.
\nI’m going to have to do this <\/p>\n
616
\n00:41:22,400 –> 00:41:26,080
\nfairly quickly, but the notes
\nI’m showing you now are in your <\/p>\n
617
\n00:41:26,080 –> 00:41:31,760
\nbook anyway.
\nWell, first of all, it seems <\/p>\n
618
\n00:41:32,200 –> 00:41:35,200
\napparent when one analyzes the
\ndetails of the man of sin <\/p>\n
619
\n00:41:35,200 –> 00:41:40,080
\nprophecy that several key
\nconcepts are brought out in the <\/p>\n
620
\n00:41:40,080 –> 00:41:44,080
\nprophecy.
\nThere seems to be a movement <\/p>\n
621
\n00:41:44,080 –> 00:41:49,640
\nhere described, not just a man.
\nWe know from the third verse <\/p>\n
622
\n00:41:50,840 –> 00:41:55,800
\nthat this man of sin is
\ndescribed as being to do with a <\/p>\n
623
\n00:41:55,800 –> 00:42:00,240
\nfalling away first.
\nNow the Greek word for falling <\/p>\n
624
\n00:42:00,240 –> 00:42:04,080
\naway is only one.
\nIt’s only one word that <\/p>\n
625
\n00:42:04,080 –> 00:42:07,880
\nrepresents that falling away in
\nEnglish, and it’s the word in <\/p>\n
626
\n00:42:07,880 –> 00:42:10,960
\nthe Greek Apostasia that’s
\nimportant. <\/p>\n
627
\n00:42:11,800 –> 00:42:15,880
\nIn the Greek, falling away is
\none word and it’s the Greek word<\/p>\n
628
\n00:42:15,880 –> 00:42:18,480
\napostasy from which we get the
\nword apostasy. <\/p>\n
629
\n00:42:19,040 –> 00:42:23,720
\nSo right off the start, this
\nmovement or this individual is <\/p>\n
630
\n00:42:23,720 –> 00:42:28,400
\nassociated with apostasy, which
\nmeans to have been on a course <\/p>\n
631
\n00:42:28,400 –> 00:42:32,000
\nof action and then to have
\ndeviated or fallen from it. <\/p>\n
632
\n00:42:32,760 –> 00:42:36,040
\nThe English says falling away or
\nturning away. <\/p>\n
633
\n00:42:36,280 –> 00:42:39,720
\nAnd that’s that’s the general
\nsense, to be on a certain course<\/p>\n
634
\n00:42:40,000 –> 00:42:45,080
\nand then to later leave it to
\nbreak away from that course. <\/p>\n
635
\n00:42:46,680 –> 00:42:48,640
\nHe is described as being
\nlawless. <\/p>\n
636
\n00:42:49,920 –> 00:42:54,920
\nIn verse 7, Paul says that he
\nalready exists. <\/p>\n
637
\n00:42:55,040 –> 00:43:00,000
\nIn fact, he who now letteth
\nSpeaking of the restraining <\/p>\n
638
\n00:43:00,000 –> 00:43:05,240
\npower, he who now letteth or he
\nwho now restrains will continue <\/p>\n
639
\n00:43:05,240 –> 00:43:08,440
\nto restrain the RSB is more
\nhelpful there than the King <\/p>\n
640
\n00:43:08,440 –> 00:43:10,920
\nJames.
\nHe who now letteth means he who <\/p>\n
641
\n00:43:10,920 –> 00:43:14,680
\nnow restrains or holds down will
\ncontinue to hold down or <\/p>\n
642
\n00:43:14,680 –> 00:43:19,000
\nrestrain until the time comes
\nwhere the man of sin system will<\/p>\n
643
\n00:43:19,000 –> 00:43:24,200
\nbe full blown and revealed.
\nNow if the restraining power on <\/p>\n
644
\n00:43:24,200 –> 00:43:27,840
\nthe man of sin was doing its
\nrestraining at the time of the <\/p>\n
645
\n00:43:27,840 –> 00:43:30,600
\nApostle Paul, there was
\nsomething to restrain. <\/p>\n
646
\n00:43:30,840 –> 00:43:35,320
\nAlready there was something
\nbeing held down until the right <\/p>\n
647
\n00:43:35,320 –> 00:43:39,840
\ntime, and that holding down had
\nsomething to hold down. <\/p>\n
648
\n00:43:40,200 –> 00:43:44,800
\nThere was then, in a German
\nstate, at least some aspect of <\/p>\n
649
\n00:43:44,800 –> 00:43:49,640
\nthe man of sin contemporary with
\nthe apostle Paul, some aspect <\/p>\n
650
\n00:43:49,760 –> 00:43:52,400
\nstill contemporary at the time
\nof the Apostle Paul. <\/p>\n
651
\n00:43:53,320 –> 00:43:56,680
\nHe was restrained, verse 6, but
\nlater to be revealed. <\/p>\n
652
\n00:43:57,640 –> 00:44:00,680
\nBut this is to be focalized,
\nwe’re told in a man. <\/p>\n
653
\n00:44:01,720 –> 00:44:05,040
\nFirst we’re told it’s apostasy.
\nThen we’re told that it’s to do <\/p>\n
654
\n00:44:05,040 –> 00:44:08,600
\nwith a man of sin.
\nVerse three tells us he will be <\/p>\n
655
\n00:44:08,600 –> 00:44:12,560
\nlawless.
\nHe will oppose God. <\/p>\n
656
\n00:44:13,440 –> 00:44:16,680
\nHe will exalt himself.
\nHe has a seat. <\/p>\n
657
\n00:44:16,920 –> 00:44:21,360
\nVerse four, he sits in the
\ntemple of God, or what seems to <\/p>\n
658
\n00:44:21,360 –> 00:44:25,920
\nbe the temple of God, and he
\nproclaims himself to be God. <\/p>\n
659
\n00:44:27,440 –> 00:44:32,960
\nHis converts are one or seduced
\nby verse 9. <\/p>\n
660
\n00:44:32,960 –> 00:44:38,560
\nSatanic activity.
\nHe exercises power pretended <\/p>\n
661
\n00:44:38,560 –> 00:44:41,840
\nsigns.
\nVerse 9 wonders. <\/p>\n
662
\n00:44:41,880 –> 00:44:45,520
\nVerse nine.
\nHe perpetrates belief in lies. <\/p>\n
663
\n00:44:45,560 –> 00:44:47,600
\nVerse 11.
\nHe has pleasure in <\/p>\n
664
\n00:44:47,600 –> 00:44:50,760
\nunrighteousness.
\nVerse 12 And he has a strong <\/p>\n
665
\n00:44:50,760 –> 00:44:53,160
\ndelusion from God.
\nVerse 11. <\/p>\n
666
\n00:44:54,440 –> 00:44:58,600
\nHe’s labeled as the son of
\nperdition before his end in <\/p>\n
667
\n00:44:58,600 –> 00:45:03,960
\nverse 3, he’s destroyed by
\nChrist in verse 8, and his <\/p>\n
668
\n00:45:03,960 –> 00:45:07,240
\nfollowers are condemned.
\nVerse 12. <\/p>\n
669
\n00:45:07,720 –> 00:45:10,800
\nAnd it’s that verse that
\nreinforces the fact that this is<\/p>\n
670
\n00:45:10,800 –> 00:45:14,160
\na movement, not just a single
\nman, not just an autocrat. <\/p>\n
671
\n00:45:14,160 –> 00:45:17,280
\nHe was working on his own.
\nThere’s the confirmation that <\/p>\n
672
\n00:45:17,280 –> 00:45:21,040
\nthe man is representing a system
\nas well as just himself. <\/p>\n
673
\n00:45:21,920 –> 00:45:25,800
\nNow, as you survey that picture,
\neven before you see the links <\/p>\n
674
\n00:45:25,800 –> 00:45:29,240
\nwith the Old Testament, certain
\nfacts emerge. <\/p>\n
675
\n00:45:30,520 –> 00:45:34,760
\nIs automatically an apparent
\nlink with the 4th beast. <\/p>\n
676
\n00:45:35,880 –> 00:45:43,960
\nThat 4th beast, who when he
\nappeared, had a little horn that<\/p>\n
677
\n00:45:43,960 –> 00:45:49,280
\nemerged amongst the other ten,
\nfinally tore down three of <\/p>\n
678
\n00:45:49,280 –> 00:45:55,760
\nthose, and who spoke great
\nthings against the Most High, <\/p>\n
679
\n00:45:57,160 –> 00:46:01,560
\nand as a power that was diverse,
\nsays the Angel. <\/p>\n
680
\n00:46:01,920 –> 00:46:05,320
\nAs a power that was diverse from
\nthe other horns, a different <\/p>\n
681
\n00:46:05,320 –> 00:46:09,120
\nnature, a different type of
\nhorn, he was nevertheless <\/p>\n
682
\n00:46:09,360 –> 00:46:14,640
\norganic to this larger body.
\nTo this fourth beast there was <\/p>\n
683
\n00:46:14,640 –> 00:46:19,960
\nsomething he was attached to,
\nlarger than just himself, and as<\/p>\n
684
\n00:46:19,960 –> 00:46:25,880
\na horn part of a body in this
\nbody is iron and brass, two <\/p>\n
685
\n00:46:25,880 –> 00:46:29,800
\nmedals that go right back to the
\nimage, into the stump, to <\/p>\n
686
\n00:46:29,840 –> 00:46:34,800
\nancient powers.
\nBut Daniel seven shows that he <\/p>\n
687
\n00:46:34,800 –> 00:46:38,800
\nand the beast are destroyed by
\nflaming fire from Christ. <\/p>\n
688
\n00:46:41,280 –> 00:46:44,480
\nWho is this horn?
\nWho is the beast? <\/p>\n
689
\n00:46:44,480 –> 00:46:47,400
\nOr what is the beast that he was
\norganic to that was really <\/p>\n
690
\n00:46:47,400 –> 00:46:51,320
\ngreater than him?
\nIn a certain sense, he was part <\/p>\n
691
\n00:46:51,320 –> 00:46:56,000
\nof a system that has links with
\nRoman Greece in some way, and by<\/p>\n
692
\n00:46:56,000 –> 00:46:58,600
\nhaving those connections he’s
\nconnected with a little stump <\/p>\n
693
\n00:46:59,480 –> 00:47:03,760
\nand therefore connected with the
\nBabylonian root around which <\/p>\n
694
\n00:47:03,760 –> 00:47:07,400
\nthose two metals are encased,
\nwhose root remains in the heart <\/p>\n
695
\n00:47:07,400 –> 00:47:10,920
\nof the earth.
\nHe is part of a beast that has <\/p>\n
696
\n00:47:10,920 –> 00:47:15,160
\ntwo metals that go right back to
\nthe image that is destroyed by <\/p>\n
697
\n00:47:15,160 –> 00:47:18,520
\nChrist.
\nThose two metals are two of the <\/p>\n
698
\n00:47:18,520 –> 00:47:21,400
\nmetals that are ground together
\nand destroyed together. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:47:21,400 –> 00:47:26,840
\nWhen the image is destroyed, he
\nis tied in with some power or <\/p>\n
700
\n00:47:26,840 –> 00:47:31,880
\nsystem that has continuity, that
\nhas ancient links with the past,<\/p>\n
701
\n00:47:32,120 –> 00:47:35,880
\nand yet he is present as part of
\nhis beast to be destroyed by <\/p>\n
702
\n00:47:35,880 –> 00:47:42,840
\nburning fire when Christ comes.
\nHere is a man who speaks great <\/p>\n
703
\n00:47:42,840 –> 00:47:46,560
\nthings against the Most High who
\nis apostate. <\/p>\n
704
\n00:47:47,080 –> 00:47:51,960
\nLawless existed at the time of
\nPaul, but was somewhat subdued, <\/p>\n
705
\n00:47:52,080 –> 00:47:56,960
\nrestrained later to be revealed.
\nHe would sit, if it were in the <\/p>\n
706
\n00:47:56,960 –> 00:48:00,640
\ntemple of God, be pompous and
\nproclaiming himself to be God, <\/p>\n
707
\n00:48:01,000 –> 00:48:05,720
\ndo certain signs and wonders,
\nand significantly, let’s look at<\/p>\n
708
\n00:48:05,720 –> 00:48:10,960
\nhow he’s destroyed in Second
\nThessalonians chapter two. <\/p>\n
709
\n00:48:14,440 –> 00:48:18,760
\nHe is destroyed exactly in the
\nsame way as the 4th Beast and <\/p>\n
710
\n00:48:18,760 –> 00:48:20,560
\nDaniel seven with the little
\nhorn. <\/p>\n
711
\n00:48:22,160 –> 00:48:24,640
\nNo wonder there are links.
\nVerse 8. <\/p>\n
712
\n00:48:27,320 –> 00:48:32,240
\nThen shall that wicked the man
\nof sin be revealed, whom the <\/p>\n
713
\n00:48:32,240 –> 00:48:36,560
\nLord shall consume with the
\nspirit of his mouth, and shall <\/p>\n
714
\n00:48:36,560 –> 00:48:42,480
\ndestroy with the brightness of
\nhis coming, with the brightness <\/p>\n
715
\n00:48:42,520 –> 00:48:45,480
\nof his coming.
\nNow when you see how that is <\/p>\n
716
\n00:48:45,480 –> 00:48:50,720
\nlinked with the flaming fire of
\nfirst the Thessalonians, chapter<\/p>\n
717
\n00:48:50,720 –> 00:48:54,200
\none just mentioned previously by
\nPaul. <\/p>\n
718
\n00:48:54,200 –> 00:48:59,840
\nVerse 7, verse 8, verse 9.
\nThe Lord will come and be <\/p>\n
719
\n00:48:59,840 –> 00:49:04,720
\nrevealed with His mighty angels.
\nChapter one, verse seven in <\/p>\n
720
\n00:49:04,720 –> 00:49:10,400
\nflaming fire, verse 9.
\nPunished with everlasting <\/p>\n
721
\n00:49:10,400 –> 00:49:13,600
\ndestruction from the presence of
\nthe Lord and from the glory of <\/p>\n
722
\n00:49:13,600 –> 00:49:16,680
\nhis power.
\nThe language used here to <\/p>\n
723
\n00:49:16,680 –> 00:49:20,440
\ndescribe the destruction of the
\nman of sin and Chapter 2 is <\/p>\n
724
\n00:49:20,440 –> 00:49:24,640
\ndrawing upon the language of
\nchapter one, which in turn has a<\/p>\n
725
\n00:49:24,640 –> 00:49:28,400
\nvery close word link with the
\ndestruction of the 4th beast and<\/p>\n
726
\n00:49:28,400 –> 00:49:31,400
\nDaniel 7.
\nNow that’s an overview. <\/p>\n
727
\n00:49:32,760 –> 00:49:35,440
\nThere are closer details to
\nwatch. <\/p>\n
728
\n00:49:36,200 –> 00:49:40,080
\nWe’ll take the end of this class
\nas we just terminated now, and <\/p>\n
729
\n00:49:40,080 –> 00:49:43,200
\npart of the next one just to
\nexhaust some of the highlights. <\/p>\n
730
\n00:49:43,760 –> 00:49:47,720
\nJust before we end, let’s notice
\nthe following Back to Second <\/p>\n
731
\n00:49:47,720 –> 00:49:55,360
\nThessalonians Chapter 2.
\nLook at the scriptural <\/p>\n
732
\n00:49:55,360 –> 00:50:00,600
\nassociations with the language
\nchosen to describe the man of <\/p>\n
733
\n00:50:00,600 –> 00:50:02,080
\nsin.
\nWe’ve mentioned the word <\/p>\n
734
\n00:50:02,080 –> 00:50:08,040
\napostasy.
\nApostasy doesn’t mean a power <\/p>\n
735
\n00:50:08,040 –> 00:50:12,760
\nthat is atheistic like
\ncommunism, or like some dictator<\/p>\n
736
\n00:50:12,760 –> 00:50:16,040
\nthat will arise in the future,
\nthat will oppose Christ and have<\/p>\n
737
\n00:50:16,040 –> 00:50:20,120
\nreally no basic religious front
\nto describe in scriptural terms <\/p>\n
738
\n00:50:20,120 –> 00:50:23,720
\nas apostate.
\nApostasy means to have once been<\/p>\n
739
\n00:50:23,720 –> 00:50:26,560
\non the right course and then to
\nhave deviated from it to have <\/p>\n
740
\n00:50:26,560 –> 00:50:30,280
\nwandered away.
\nSo term #1, as it’s used <\/p>\n
741
\n00:50:30,280 –> 00:50:32,920
\nelsewhere in scripture and as
\nit’s associated with scriptural <\/p>\n
742
\n00:50:32,920 –> 00:50:36,680
\nthoughts, shows that there must
\nbe a must have been some link <\/p>\n
743
\n00:50:36,680 –> 00:50:40,640
\nwith religion, some link with
\nGod’s teachings to start with. <\/p>\n
744
\n00:50:41,360 –> 00:50:47,040
\nSecondly, look at verse 3.
\nHe is called the Son. <\/p>\n
745
\n00:50:47,160 –> 00:50:51,080
\nOf perdition.
\nNow that’s an extremely <\/p>\n
746
\n00:50:51,080 –> 00:50:55,480
\nimportant clue, brothers and
\nsisters, as to who he is or what<\/p>\n
747
\n00:50:55,480 –> 00:50:57,960
\nkind of person or system he
\nrepresents. <\/p>\n
748
\n00:50:59,280 –> 00:51:03,040
\nOnly one other place in the
\nBible is the term son of <\/p>\n
749
\n00:51:03,040 –> 00:51:07,480
\nperdition used.
\nIt’s used in the Gospel of John,<\/p>\n
750
\n00:51:08,240 –> 00:51:13,640
\nand it’s used to describe Judas
\nonly other place in the New <\/p>\n
751
\n00:51:13,640 –> 00:51:16,520
\nTestament.
\nIn other words, in terms of how <\/p>\n
752
\n00:51:16,520 –> 00:51:21,240
\nScripture reveals its own terms.
\nSon of perdition is first used <\/p>\n
753
\n00:51:21,240 –> 00:51:24,560
\nof Judas and secondly used of
\nthe man of sin. <\/p>\n
754
\n00:51:25,280 –> 00:51:29,040
\nWas Judas an atheist?
\nWas he a political power all on <\/p>\n
755
\n00:51:29,040 –> 00:51:33,080
\nhis own?
\nDid he represent instead though <\/p>\n
756
\n00:51:33,480 –> 00:51:37,160
\nan individual who had some
\nconnection with Christ, who had <\/p>\n
757
\n00:51:37,160 –> 00:51:40,200
\nsome semblance of being a
\nfollower of Christ? <\/p>\n
758
\n00:51:40,240 –> 00:51:43,680
\nYes, he did.
\nHe was one who was a kind of 5th<\/p>\n
759
\n00:51:43,680 –> 00:51:47,360
\ncolumnist in the end.
\nBut he did have associations <\/p>\n
760
\n00:51:47,440 –> 00:51:50,640
\nwith Christ.
\nHe did have the trappings, as it<\/p>\n
761
\n00:51:50,640 –> 00:51:53,640
\nwere, of some kind of
\ndiscipleship in his way of life <\/p>\n
762
\n00:51:53,640 –> 00:51:57,000
\nfor a period of time.
\nAnd yet he rebelled and went <\/p>\n
763
\n00:51:57,000 –> 00:52:01,080
\naway, and he ended up being, of
\ncourse, in revolt against <\/p>\n
764
\n00:52:01,080 –> 00:52:03,640
\nChrist.
\nSo to. <\/p>\n
765
\n00:52:03,640 –> 00:52:07,480
\nBe a son.
\nOf perdition describes, again <\/p>\n
766
\n00:52:07,680 –> 00:52:12,760
\nwith the word apostasy, someone
\nwho’s got religious semblance, <\/p>\n
767
\n00:52:13,080 –> 00:52:16,720
\nsomeone who is appearing to be
\nthe true but in fact is the <\/p>\n
768
\n00:52:16,720 –> 00:52:20,800
\nfalse, Someone who looks like or
\nappears to be one of the <\/p>\n
769
\n00:52:20,800 –> 00:52:26,560
\nfollowers of Christ, but instead
\nis a betrayer to the real cause <\/p>\n
770
\n00:52:26,560 –> 00:52:29,160
\nand the real truth.
\nA. <\/p>\n
771
\n00:52:29,160 –> 00:52:33,240
\nFurthermore, it says here in
\nthis second Thessalonians 2 <\/p>\n
772
\n00:52:33,240 –> 00:52:37,920
\ncontext, that they shall or he
\nshall be associated with a lie <\/p>\n
773
\n00:52:38,440 –> 00:52:42,400
\nand with strong delusion.
\nOne of the details we just <\/p>\n
774
\n00:52:42,400 –> 00:52:47,000
\nnoticed earlier on.
\nNow the Greek word is the Greek <\/p>\n
775
\n00:52:47,000 –> 00:52:52,360
\nword plenaille, and it means to
\ncause to wander, and it’s used <\/p>\n
776
\n00:52:52,360 –> 00:52:55,240
\nin the New Testament elsewhere
\nof wandering from the path of <\/p>\n
777
\n00:52:55,240 –> 00:52:59,560
\ntruth once.
\nAgain by strong. <\/p>\n
778
\n00:52:59,560 –> 00:53:04,200
\nDelusion or a lie.
\nTheir associations reinforced <\/p>\n
779
\n00:53:04,200 –> 00:53:08,040
\nthe concept of apostasy and the
\nconcept of being a son of <\/p>\n
780
\n00:53:08,040 –> 00:53:12,800
\nperdition.
\nFurthermore, we see that he has <\/p>\n
781
\n00:53:12,840 –> 00:53:17,560
\na temple in verse four.
\nHe poses to be as God. <\/p>\n
782
\n00:53:19,280 –> 00:53:22,920
\nHe thinks he is God.
\nHe acts as though he actually is<\/p>\n
783
\n00:53:22,920 –> 00:53:26,560
\nthe God of the earth in heaven.
\nThat’s. <\/p>\n
784
\n00:53:26,560 –> 00:53:28,080
\nNot obviously the terms that
\nwould be. <\/p>\n
785
\n00:53:28,080 –> 00:53:31,800
\nUsed of an atheistic figure, it
\nis someone who is trying to <\/p>\n
786
\n00:53:31,800 –> 00:53:36,480
\nmimic God, trying to reveal
\nhimself or present himself. <\/p>\n
787
\n00:53:36,680 –> 00:53:41,400
\nAlthough he is God and he sits
\nin a place that in some ways <\/p>\n
788
\n00:53:41,400 –> 00:53:45,680
\nmimics God or the true temple,
\nand he even claims to have a <\/p>\n
789
\n00:53:45,680 –> 00:53:48,720
\nseat of authority in that temple
\nas though he was sitting on a <\/p>\n
790
\n00:53:48,720 –> 00:53:52,240
\nthrone.
\nEverything about him is intended<\/p>\n
791
\n00:53:52,240 –> 00:53:56,920
\nto mimic or parallel the true
\nalthough in fact he’s a <\/p>\n
792
\n00:53:56,960 –> 00:54:01,800
\nbetrayer, he is apostate.
\nHe in fact is to be destroyed by<\/p>\n
793
\n00:54:01,800 –> 00:54:06,440
\nChrist, although he’s got links
\nhere with the first entry now <\/p>\n
794
\n00:54:06,440 –> 00:54:07,960
\nbrothers and.
\nSisters will terminate. <\/p>\n
795
\n00:54:07,960 –> 00:54:12,280
\nAt that point.
\nWith one final thought. <\/p>\n
796
\n00:54:13,160 –> 00:54:14,800
\nWhich will lead us into our next
\nstudy. <\/p>\n
797
\n00:54:15,960 –> 00:54:18,880
\nAlthough we’ve said that Son of
\nperdition is only found one <\/p>\n
798
\n00:54:18,880 –> 00:54:21,560
\nother place in the New
\nTestament, namely for Judas and <\/p>\n
799
\n00:54:21,560 –> 00:54:27,040
\nJohn’s Gospel, the only other
\ntime perdition occurs. <\/p>\n
800
\n00:54:27,960 –> 00:54:31,800
\nThe only other time Perdition
\noccurs is in the Book of <\/p>\n
801
\n00:54:31,800 –> 00:54:36,160
\nRevelation, and it’s not
\nsurprising that it has to do <\/p>\n
802
\n00:54:36,160 –> 00:54:36,960
\nwith the Beast system.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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