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\nNow, I realize that these
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\nfor our purposes in this class
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\nOr they may have have been
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\nThat there’s no absolute truth,
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\nwritten by a man named Richard <\/p>\n
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\nbut that’s not biblical faith.
\nNow I’m going to play for you a <\/p>\n
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\nIn 2007, The God Delusion was <\/p>\n
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\nyear there was a debate between <\/p>\n
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\nThat’s way better. <\/p>\n
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\nWhat needs to be faith I mean is<\/p>\n
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\nRemember you said with that the <\/p>\n
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\nWhereas we only need to use the
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\nIs there any evidence for that?
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\nthan I need to so we can see
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\nnature of faith, the whole
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\ncourse that was the whole nature
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\nsure that shaped his feeling
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\nBut that’s not biblical faith.
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\nHebrews Chapter 11.
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\nguessed we might go here, the
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\nThe people of old received their
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\nmade out of things that are
\nvisible. <\/p>\n
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\nNow when I read verse one I read
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\nevidence in the Greek is alejos,
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\nOur our faith is is very much
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\nin a jungle somewhere, somebody <\/p>\n
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\nIsn’t that what happened for
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\nconvincing the world that <\/p>\n
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\n00:20:04,800 –> 00:20:08,720
\nscience and religion are opposed
\nfor a long time now, and I think<\/p>\n
342
\n00:20:08,720 –> 00:20:10,880
\nit all started back in the year
\n1860. <\/p>\n
343
\n00:20:11,160 –> 00:20:15,360
\nIn 1860, Darwin published his On
\nthe Origin of the Species, and <\/p>\n
344
\n00:20:15,360 –> 00:20:17,720
\nof course that was quite a quite
\na controversial thing. <\/p>\n
345
\n00:20:17,720 –> 00:20:21,560
\nWhen that came out, the concept
\nof evolution was introduced to <\/p>\n
346
\n00:20:21,560 –> 00:20:24,640
\nthe world and and people had
\nvery strong feelings about it <\/p>\n
347
\n00:20:24,640 –> 00:20:27,400
\none way or the other.
\nAnd later that same year, in <\/p>\n
348
\n00:20:27,400 –> 00:20:31,160
\n1860, there’s a famous debate
\nthat took place between two men.<\/p>\n
349
\n00:20:32,720 –> 00:20:36,440
\nAnd those men were on your left,
\nReverend Samuel Wilberforce, <\/p>\n
350
\n00:20:36,440 –> 00:20:40,760
\nknown as Soapy Sam.
\nHe was known as one of the best <\/p>\n
351
\n00:20:40,760 –> 00:20:44,440
\npublic speakers of his day, but
\napparently quite pretentious, <\/p>\n
352
\n00:20:44,440 –> 00:20:46,280
\nwhich is why he was called Soapy
\nSam. <\/p>\n
353
\n00:20:46,800 –> 00:20:50,360
\nAnd on the right we have TH
\nHuxley, Thomas Henry Huxley, <\/p>\n
354
\n00:20:50,360 –> 00:20:54,520
\nknown also as Darwin’s Bulldog.
\nAnd these two are going to <\/p>\n
355
\n00:20:54,520 –> 00:20:58,480
\ndebate the merits of of the
\ntheory of evolution and this <\/p>\n
356
\n00:20:58,480 –> 00:21:02,880
\nfamous debate And interestingly
\nenough, Thomas Henry Huxley on <\/p>\n
357
\n00:21:02,880 –> 00:21:04,720
\nyour right, who would be
\ndefending the theory of <\/p>\n
358
\n00:21:04,720 –> 00:21:07,960
\nevolution, didn’t really want to
\nparticipate in this debate, but <\/p>\n
359
\n00:21:08,040 –> 00:21:10,600
\nhe had a lot of scientific
\ncolleagues who peer pressured <\/p>\n
360
\n00:21:10,600 –> 00:21:12,920
\nhim into doing it.
\nThey happened to be atheists <\/p>\n
361
\n00:21:12,920 –> 00:21:15,560
\nalso.
\nAnd so the debate took place in <\/p>\n
362
\n00:21:15,560 –> 00:21:19,240
\na very crowded hall in the
\nMuseum of Natural History at <\/p>\n
363
\n00:21:19,240 –> 00:21:22,080
\nOxford University in the year
\n1860. <\/p>\n
364
\n00:21:22,760 –> 00:21:24,640
\nAnd interestingly enough,
\nthere’s no transcript of the <\/p>\n
365
\n00:21:24,640 –> 00:21:26,240
\ndebate.
\nSo we don’t know actually what <\/p>\n
366
\n00:21:26,240 –> 00:21:30,160
\nwas said, except for one thing
\nthat apparently all eyewitness <\/p>\n
367
\n00:21:30,160 –> 00:21:32,040
\naccounts agree on that this took
\nplace. <\/p>\n
368
\n00:21:32,040 –> 00:21:36,880
\nAt one point Samuel Wilberforce
\nsaid to TH Huxley, is it from <\/p>\n
369
\n00:21:36,880 –> 00:21:39,160
\nyour grandfather or your
\ngrandmother that you claimed <\/p>\n
370
\n00:21:39,160 –> 00:21:44,640
\ndescent from a monkey?
\nAnd TH Huxley, clearly angry and<\/p>\n
371
\n00:21:44,800 –> 00:21:49,040
\nred faced, composed himself and
\nstood up and calmly replied. <\/p>\n
372
\n00:21:50,240 –> 00:21:53,200
\nI would not be ashamed to have a
\nmonkey as an ancestor, but I <\/p>\n
373
\n00:21:53,200 –> 00:21:56,360
\nwould be ashamed to be connected
\nwith a man who used his great <\/p>\n
374
\n00:21:56,360 –> 00:22:01,200
\ngifts to obscure the truth.
\nAnd that comment apparently had <\/p>\n
375
\n00:22:01,200 –> 00:22:03,800
\nsuch an impact on the audience
\nthat one woman fainted and had <\/p>\n
376
\n00:22:03,800 –> 00:22:10,040
\nto be carried out the bag.
\nNow this debate has come down to<\/p>\n
377
\n00:22:10,040 –> 00:22:15,360
\nus as the first great victory of
\nscience over religion. <\/p>\n
378
\n00:22:15,840 –> 00:22:18,840
\nWhich is weird, because when we
\nlook at the facts, it doesn’t <\/p>\n
379
\n00:22:18,840 –> 00:22:22,320
\nlook like that at all.
\nFor example, TH Huxley wrote <\/p>\n
380
\n00:22:22,320 –> 00:22:24,960
\nafterwards.
\nI think the very next day he <\/p>\n
381
\n00:22:24,960 –> 00:22:27,000
\nwrote.
\nI believe that I was the most <\/p>\n
382
\n00:22:27,000 –> 00:22:30,640
\npopular man in Oxford for a full
\n4 and 20 hours afterwards. <\/p>\n
383
\n00:22:31,480 –> 00:22:33,720
\nBut Samuel Wilberforce would
\nwrite. <\/p>\n
384
\n00:22:35,120 –> 00:22:39,560
\nI think I thoroughly beat him.
\nSo both men felt that they had <\/p>\n
385
\n00:22:39,760 –> 00:22:44,640
\nwon the debate and no major
\nnewspaper picked up the story. <\/p>\n
386
\n00:22:44,640 –> 00:22:48,000
\nBut there was 1 magazine that
\ndid, and in the article about <\/p>\n
387
\n00:22:48,000 –> 00:22:50,440
\nit, which was very short, the
\npublication was called the <\/p>\n
388
\n00:22:50,440 –> 00:22:53,560
\nAthenaeum.
\nThey said these two men, Huxley <\/p>\n
389
\n00:22:53,560 –> 00:22:58,040
\nand Wilberforce have each found
\nfoe men worthy of their steel. <\/p>\n
390
\n00:22:58,040 –> 00:23:01,280
\nWhich is to say in modern
\nEnglish that this was was a very<\/p>\n
391
\n00:23:01,280 –> 00:23:06,520
\nevenly matched debate.
\nAnd it turns out that Samuel <\/p>\n
392
\n00:23:06,520 –> 00:23:10,200
\nWilberforce, even though he was
\na theologian, he was a reverend.<\/p>\n
393
\n00:23:10,840 –> 00:23:14,040
\nHe was very much educated in the
\nsciences, he knew a lot about <\/p>\n
394
\n00:23:14,040 –> 00:23:16,720
\nit, and he was friends with
\nCharles Darwin, who was sick and<\/p>\n
395
\n00:23:16,720 –> 00:23:19,680
\ncouldn’t attend the debate.
\nAnd later Sam the Wilberforce <\/p>\n
396
\n00:23:19,680 –> 00:23:23,040
\nwould write a review of Charles
\nDarwin’s On the Origin of the <\/p>\n
397
\n00:23:23,040 –> 00:23:25,960
\nSpecies.
\nAnd And Darwin himself, who was <\/p>\n
398
\n00:23:25,960 –> 00:23:29,320
\na lot less adamant about his own
\ntheories than many other <\/p>\n
399
\n00:23:29,320 –> 00:23:32,240
\nscientists would eventually
\nbecome, wrote this about <\/p>\n
400
\n00:23:32,240 –> 00:23:35,840
\nWilberforce’s review.
\nHe said it’s uncommonly clever. <\/p>\n
401
\n00:23:35,840 –> 00:23:38,920
\nIt picks out with skill all the
\nmost conjectural parts and <\/p>\n
402
\n00:23:38,920 –> 00:23:42,280
\nbrings forward, well, all the
\ndifficulties it quizzes me most <\/p>\n
403
\n00:23:42,280 –> 00:23:45,720
\nsplendidly, said Darwin.
\nSo, So Samuel Wilberforce was <\/p>\n
404
\n00:23:45,720 –> 00:23:47,680
\nnot ignorant at all when it came
\nto science. <\/p>\n
405
\n00:23:48,040 –> 00:23:53,440
\nAnd from all factual references
\nthat we have, this was a pretty <\/p>\n
406
\n00:23:53,440 –> 00:23:56,760
\nevenly matched debate.
\nSo why then has this come down <\/p>\n
407
\n00:23:56,760 –> 00:24:00,360
\nto us through history as the
\nfirst great victory of science <\/p>\n
408
\n00:24:00,680 –> 00:24:03,920
\nover religion?
\nWell, just that very sentence <\/p>\n
409
\n00:24:03,920 –> 00:24:05,520
\nhas framed it in a certain way,
\nhasn’t it? <\/p>\n
410
\n00:24:05,720 –> 00:24:08,480
\nScience over religion, science
\nversus religion. <\/p>\n
411
\n00:24:09,160 –> 00:24:11,840
\nIt’s framing the narrative to
\nsay these two things are opposed<\/p>\n
412
\n00:24:11,840 –> 00:24:14,360
\nto each other.
\nAnd there have been historians <\/p>\n
413
\n00:24:14,360 –> 00:24:18,120
\nwho have written about this
\ndebate, John Henley Brooke wrote<\/p>\n
414
\n00:24:18,120 –> 00:24:19,480
\nin his book Science and
\nReligion. <\/p>\n
415
\n00:24:19,480 –> 00:24:22,640
\nIt’s a significant fact that the
\nfamous clash between Huxley and <\/p>\n
416
\n00:24:22,640 –> 00:24:25,880
\nthe Bishop was not reported by a
\nsingle London newspaper at the <\/p>\n
417
\n00:24:25,880 –> 00:24:28,280
\ntime.
\nIndeed, there are no official <\/p>\n
418
\n00:24:28,280 –> 00:24:30,920
\nrecords of the meeting, and most
\nof the reports came from <\/p>\n
419
\n00:24:31,000 –> 00:24:33,800
\nHuxley’s friends.
\nYou see, what happened is <\/p>\n
420
\n00:24:34,200 –> 00:24:36,800
\nHuxley’s friends who had
\npressured him into participating<\/p>\n
421
\n00:24:36,800 –> 00:24:38,680
\nin the in the debate.
\nAs soon as it was over, they <\/p>\n
422
\n00:24:38,680 –> 00:24:41,000
\nwent throughout the scientific
\nworld and they told everybody <\/p>\n
423
\n00:24:41,000 –> 00:24:43,480
\nthis was a great defeat of
\nscience. <\/p>\n
424
\n00:24:43,560 –> 00:24:46,720
\nScience defeated religion, a
\ngreat defeat of religion by <\/p>\n
425
\n00:24:46,720 –> 00:24:51,840
\nscience, another historian,
\nFrank James from the Royal <\/p>\n
426
\n00:24:51,840 –> 00:24:54,800
\nInstitute of London, said.
\nHad Wilberforce not been so <\/p>\n
427
\n00:24:54,800 –> 00:24:58,360
\nunpopular in Oxford, he would
\nhave carried the day and not <\/p>\n
428
\n00:24:58,600 –> 00:25:01,680
\nHuxley.
\nApparently Wilberforce was not <\/p>\n
429
\n00:25:01,720 –> 00:25:03,680
\nvery well liked because he was
\nso pretentious. <\/p>\n
430
\n00:25:03,680 –> 00:25:06,400
\nEven the Prime Minister of
\nEngland at the time apparently <\/p>\n
431
\n00:25:06,400 –> 00:25:08,000
\nhad some nasty things to say
\nabout him. <\/p>\n
432
\n00:25:08,440 –> 00:25:11,760
\nSo Frank James said because he
\nwas so unpopular, the favor <\/p>\n
433
\n00:25:11,760 –> 00:25:14,360
\ndidn’t go in his way.
\nBut this was he very much <\/p>\n
434
\n00:25:14,360 –> 00:25:16,880
\ncarried his own weight in this
\ndebate. <\/p>\n
435
\n00:25:18,720 –> 00:25:23,640
\nAnd ever since that time, this
\nhas been the narrative science <\/p>\n
436
\n00:25:23,640 –> 00:25:26,880
\nversus religion.
\nThe two have to be at odds with <\/p>\n
437
\n00:25:26,880 –> 00:25:29,000
\neach other.
\nThat’s the way it would seem <\/p>\n
438
\n00:25:29,000 –> 00:25:32,760
\nwhen you say it like that.
\nAnd yet the Apostle Paul said in<\/p>\n
439
\n00:25:32,760 –> 00:25:37,440
\nRomans chapter one that when you
\nlook at creation, at the things <\/p>\n
440
\n00:25:37,440 –> 00:25:40,880
\nthat that God has put into
\nplace, you should be able to see<\/p>\n
441
\n00:25:40,880 –> 00:25:44,120
\nthe stamp of the Creator.
\nAnd if you can’t then you’re <\/p>\n
442
\n00:25:44,120 –> 00:25:47,760
\nignorant, said the Apostle Paul
\nin Romans chapter one. <\/p>\n
443
\n00:25:49,560 –> 00:25:52,160
\nAnd so here we are today talking
\nabout it still. <\/p>\n
444
\n00:25:53,160 –> 00:25:57,040
\nAnd from here on out, I want to
\nstart by saying that I’m, I’m <\/p>\n
445
\n00:25:57,040 –> 00:25:58,560
\nnot a scientist.
\nI think it’s important to <\/p>\n
446
\n00:25:58,560 –> 00:26:00,760
\nacknowledge that I’m not an
\nexpert in, in some of the fields<\/p>\n
447
\n00:26:00,760 –> 00:26:03,440
\nI’m going to be talking about,
\nwhich is why I’m going to rely <\/p>\n
448
\n00:26:03,440 –> 00:26:06,640
\non people who are in this class
\nand especially in the third <\/p>\n
449
\n00:26:06,640 –> 00:26:08,640
\nclass today.
\nThese two, those two classes <\/p>\n
450
\n00:26:08,920 –> 00:26:11,480
\nwill be based in the sciences
\nand in math. <\/p>\n
451
\n00:26:13,480 –> 00:26:16,200
\nI’m going to rely on people who
\nare at the top of their field <\/p>\n
452
\n00:26:16,200 –> 00:26:18,600
\nscientists and some of them are
\nChristians and some of them are <\/p>\n
453
\n00:26:18,600 –> 00:26:21,880
\natheists and some of them are
\nagnostic and we’re going to see <\/p>\n
454
\n00:26:21,880 –> 00:26:24,160
\nwhat they have to say about it
\ndespite whatever their belief <\/p>\n
455
\n00:26:24,160 –> 00:26:27,920
\nsystem might be.
\nAnd the 1st Ave. of the sciences<\/p>\n
456
\n00:26:27,920 –> 00:26:29,600
\nI want to talk about is
\ngenetics. <\/p>\n
457
\n00:26:29,880 –> 00:26:32,040
\nI hope this doesn’t make you too
\nuncomfortable if you if you <\/p>\n
458
\n00:26:32,040 –> 00:26:33,840
\ndon’t like this subject in
\nschool. <\/p>\n
459
\n00:26:34,200 –> 00:26:39,600
\nBut most of you have probably
\nseen this, a strand of DNA and <\/p>\n
460
\n00:26:40,520 –> 00:26:42,880
\non the right hand side you see
\nDNA and on the left hand side <\/p>\n
461
\n00:26:42,880 –> 00:26:47,360
\nyou see RNA.
\nInside of all living cells, we <\/p>\n
462
\n00:26:47,360 –> 00:26:52,000
\nhave DNA and the DNA is called a
\ndouble Helix structure, which <\/p>\n
463
\n00:26:52,000 –> 00:26:54,120
\nmeans it’s kind of like a
\nladder, but a ladder that’s been<\/p>\n
464
\n00:26:54,120 –> 00:26:58,200
\ntwisted and twisted and twisted
\nand the the sides of that ladder<\/p>\n
465
\n00:26:58,640 –> 00:27:03,200
\nare made-up of sugar phosphates
\nand inside are rungs, if you <\/p>\n
466
\n00:27:03,200 –> 00:27:06,560
\nwill, of each ladder and those
\nrungs have two pieces each one <\/p>\n
467
\n00:27:06,560 –> 00:27:11,040
\nof those two pieces on every
\nrung is called a nucleobase and <\/p>\n
468
\n00:27:11,040 –> 00:27:13,720
\nthose two nucleobases are joined
\nin the middle but by a weak <\/p>\n
469
\n00:27:13,720 –> 00:27:15,520
\nbond.
\nSo it’s very easy to go down the<\/p>\n
470
\n00:27:15,520 –> 00:27:18,680
\nmiddle and just split it right
\nin two and get a strand of RNA. <\/p>\n
471
\n00:27:19,880 –> 00:27:22,560
\nAnd those nucleobases, there’s
\nonly four of them in DNA, <\/p>\n
472
\n00:27:22,800 –> 00:27:25,000
\ncytosine, guanine, adenine and
\nthymine. <\/p>\n
473
\n00:27:25,280 –> 00:27:26,920
\nAnd scientists have categorized
\nthem. <\/p>\n
474
\n00:27:27,080 –> 00:27:30,760
\nSo they’re simple by letters,
\nCGA and T, as you can see. <\/p>\n
475
\n00:27:31,040 –> 00:27:34,280
\nAnd the order of those
\nnucleobases in a strand of DNA <\/p>\n
476
\n00:27:34,280 –> 00:27:36,400
\nis extremely important because
\nthis is actually we’ve <\/p>\n
477
\n00:27:36,400 –> 00:27:39,880
\ndiscovered it’s actually a
\nlanguage built inside of all <\/p>\n
478
\n00:27:39,880 –> 00:27:45,680
\nthings DNA, has been described
\nas a like a computer program or <\/p>\n
479
\n00:27:45,680 –> 00:27:48,400
\na computer hard disk.
\nIt contains a database of <\/p>\n
480
\n00:27:48,400 –> 00:27:54,120
\ninformation and the program to
\nproduce a specified product. <\/p>\n
481
\n00:27:54,720 –> 00:27:57,720
\nNow when the DNA splits in two,
\nand we’re going to talk about a <\/p>\n
482
\n00:27:57,720 –> 00:28:01,920
\nlittle bit about how that works
\nin a second, the nucleobases are<\/p>\n
483
\n00:28:01,920 –> 00:28:05,080
\nalmost all the same and the half
\nof a strand of DNA which becomes<\/p>\n
484
\n00:28:05,080 –> 00:28:06,680
\nRNA except for the very last
\none. <\/p>\n
485
\n00:28:07,480 –> 00:28:10,280
\nSo thymine is replaced with
\nuracil. <\/p>\n
486
\n00:28:11,840 –> 00:28:15,160
\nNow, for life to continue to
\nexist, all living cells have to <\/p>\n
487
\n00:28:15,160 –> 00:28:16,920
\ncontinue to replicate
\nthemselves. <\/p>\n
488
\n00:28:17,240 –> 00:28:21,880
\nAnd to do that, the DNA itself
\nis split in two, and it will <\/p>\n
489
\n00:28:21,880 –> 00:28:24,480
\nactually also leave the cell
\nthat it’s in. <\/p>\n
490
\n00:28:25,560 –> 00:28:28,480
\nSo a DNA will split from 1
\nstrand into two new strands. <\/p>\n
491
\n00:28:28,480 –> 00:28:31,320
\nHere’s a diagram of that and
\nsomething called the healer <\/p>\n
492
\n00:28:31,320 –> 00:28:33,320
\ncase.
\nKind of like a pair of scissors <\/p>\n
493
\n00:28:33,320 –> 00:28:35,560
\nwalks right down the middle of
\nthe strand and cuts it in two <\/p>\n
494
\n00:28:35,560 –> 00:28:38,840
\ninto two different pieces.
\nAnd then an enzyme called adna <\/p>\n
495
\n00:28:38,840 –> 00:28:43,200
\npolymerase walks up to each half
\nof each strand and builds the <\/p>\n
496
\n00:28:43,200 –> 00:28:44,960
\nother half of that strand of
\nDNA. <\/p>\n
497
\n00:28:44,960 –> 00:28:48,520
\nAnd as it goes along, it puts
\nall the nucleobases in place for<\/p>\n
498
\n00:28:48,520 –> 00:28:53,280
\neach rung of of that ladder.
\nAnd that DNA polymerase, once <\/p>\n
499
\n00:28:53,280 –> 00:28:56,280
\nit’s done with a new strand, it
\nactually walks back and forth up<\/p>\n
500
\n00:28:56,280 –> 00:28:59,120
\nthe strand as a proofreader to
\nmake sure that nothing’s out of <\/p>\n
501
\n00:28:59,120 –> 00:29:01,880
\nplace.
\nIf it finds a nucleobase that’s <\/p>\n
502
\n00:29:01,880 –> 00:29:03,880
\nwrong, it kicks it out, puts the
\nright one in. <\/p>\n
503
\n00:29:05,440 –> 00:29:08,120
\nSo every once in a while it
\ndoesn’t catch it and there’s a <\/p>\n
504
\n00:29:08,120 –> 00:29:10,120
\nmistake.
\nThat’s what we call a genetic <\/p>\n
505
\n00:29:10,120 –> 00:29:14,400
\nmutation.
\nSo each of the between 10 and <\/p>\n
506
\n00:29:14,400 –> 00:29:18,920
\n100 trillion cells in the human
\nbody contains a database larger <\/p>\n
507
\n00:29:18,920 –> 00:29:22,000
\nthan the Encyclopedia
\nBritannica. <\/p>\n
508
\n00:29:23,440 –> 00:29:27,040
\nAnd the human genome is over 3
\n1\/2 billion letters long. <\/p>\n
509
\n00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:31,240
\nIf you think of letters as those
\nnucleobases CGA and T 3 1\/2 <\/p>\n
510
\n00:29:31,240 –> 00:29:33,840
\nbillion letters long.
\nWhich is why there was a project<\/p>\n
511
\n00:29:33,840 –> 00:29:37,320
\ncalled the Human Genome Project.
\nRemember that it was completed <\/p>\n
512
\n00:29:37,320 –> 00:29:40,440
\nin 2003.
\nIt took a long time to decode <\/p>\n
513
\n00:29:40,440 –> 00:29:48,640
\nthe entire human genetic code.
\nSo the RNA will also leave the <\/p>\n
514
\n00:29:48,640 –> 00:29:52,280
\ncell behind and enter this thing
\nwhich is called a ribosome, <\/p>\n
515
\n00:29:52,600 –> 00:29:55,080
\nwhich to us you know is
\nmicroscopically small. <\/p>\n
516
\n00:29:55,080 –> 00:29:58,280
\nBut on the on the subatomic
\nlevel, it’s actually quite big. <\/p>\n
517
\n00:29:58,280 –> 00:30:03,680
\nIt’s like a giant translation
\nmachine and the RNE gets RNA <\/p>\n
518
\n00:30:03,680 –> 00:30:06,520
\nstrand as you see there, it’s
\nfed into the ribosome. <\/p>\n
519
\n00:30:06,520 –> 00:30:10,160
\nAnd as it gets fed in the, the
\nribosome reads every single <\/p>\n
520
\n00:30:10,160 –> 00:30:13,120
\nnucleobase like a letter, like
\nit’s translating a code as it <\/p>\n
521
\n00:30:13,120 –> 00:30:16,320
\ncomes along and every single
\npiece that it sees is the next <\/p>\n
522
\n00:30:16,320 –> 00:30:19,760
\npiece of the recipe for protein
\nthat is being created. <\/p>\n
523
\n00:30:20,440 –> 00:30:23,000
\nAnd as this happens, proteins
\nare being created within the <\/p>\n
524
\n00:30:23,000 –> 00:30:26,560
\nribosome.
\nHere’s where it gets really <\/p>\n
525
\n00:30:26,560 –> 00:30:33,160
\ninteresting.
\nYou cannot have DNA without <\/p>\n
526
\n00:30:33,160 –> 00:30:38,360
\nfirst having proteins, but you
\ncan’t create proteins without <\/p>\n
527
\n00:30:38,360 –> 00:30:41,800
\nhaving DNA as the recipe.
\nYou see. <\/p>\n
528
\n00:30:41,800 –> 00:30:43,800
\nThe two cannot exist without
\neach other. <\/p>\n
529
\n00:30:45,360 –> 00:30:48,640
\nSo the theory of evolution is
\nbased on the idea that life <\/p>\n
530
\n00:30:48,640 –> 00:30:53,440
\narose from many, many steps of
\nvery simple processes, from very<\/p>\n
531
\n00:30:53,440 –> 00:30:56,800
\nsimple to more and more complex.
\nBut every single step in that <\/p>\n
532
\n00:30:56,800 –> 00:31:01,320
\nprocess was very simple.
\nWell, this presents a problem to<\/p>\n
533
\n00:31:01,320 –> 00:31:06,640
\nthat, because at a certain point
\nyou get what you might have <\/p>\n
534
\n00:31:06,640 –> 00:31:09,920
\nheard before, the term
\nirreducible complexity. <\/p>\n
535
\n00:31:10,760 –> 00:31:13,840
\nIt’s the all question which came
\nfirst, the chicken or the egg? <\/p>\n
536
\n00:31:13,920 –> 00:31:16,160
\nBecause you can’t have DNA
\nwithout proteins, but you can’t <\/p>\n
537
\n00:31:16,160 –> 00:31:19,160
\ncreate proteins without DNA,
\nwhich would suggest at some <\/p>\n
538
\n00:31:19,160 –> 00:31:24,560
\npoint there was a chemist
\ninvolved, a mind to put these <\/p>\n
539
\n00:31:24,560 –> 00:31:26,760
\ntwo things together for the
\nfirst time. <\/p>\n
540
\n00:31:28,960 –> 00:31:32,720
\nAnd if you think that maybe I
\ndon’t know what I’m talking <\/p>\n
541
\n00:31:32,720 –> 00:31:35,160
\nabout because I’m not a
\nscientist, let’s rely on some <\/p>\n
542
\n00:31:35,160 –> 00:31:38,640
\nscientists.
\nThe man who was the leader of <\/p>\n
543
\n00:31:38,640 –> 00:31:43,520
\nthe Human Genome Project was a
\nman named Francis Collins and in<\/p>\n
544
\n00:31:43,520 –> 00:31:47,400
\n2003 it was publicly announced
\nthat the project was completed <\/p>\n
545
\n00:31:47,400 –> 00:31:49,880
\nAnd at the public announcement
\nof the completion of the Human <\/p>\n
546
\n00:31:49,880 –> 00:31:52,520
\nGenome Project, this is what
\nFrancis Collins had to say to <\/p>\n
547
\n00:31:52,520 –> 00:31:56,200
\nthe press.
\nIt is humbling for me and awe <\/p>\n
548
\n00:31:56,200 –> 00:31:59,520
\ninspiring to realize that we
\nhave caught the first glimpse of<\/p>\n
549
\n00:31:59,520 –> 00:32:04,760
\nour own instruction book
\npreviously known only to God. <\/p>\n
550
\n00:32:05,960 –> 00:32:12,800
\nYou see, Francis Collins is and
\nwas a Christian, not in spite of<\/p>\n
551
\n00:32:12,800 –> 00:32:16,800
\nhis professional work, but
\nbecause of what he saw. <\/p>\n
552
\n00:32:16,800 –> 00:32:21,880
\nHe’s on the breaking edge of the
\nwork in genetics, and everything<\/p>\n
553
\n00:32:21,880 –> 00:32:26,080
\nhe saw proved to him that there
\nmust have been a mind behind it <\/p>\n
554
\n00:32:26,080 –> 00:32:29,280
\nall.
\nNow, before the advent of some <\/p>\n
555
\n00:32:29,280 –> 00:32:32,480
\nof the more popular New Atheists
\nlike Richard Dawkins, one of the<\/p>\n
556
\n00:32:32,480 –> 00:32:35,400
\nmost well respected atheists in
\nthe world was a man named <\/p>\n
557
\n00:32:35,400 –> 00:32:40,240
\nAnthony Flu.
\nAnd in 2003, Anthony Flu was <\/p>\n
558
\n00:32:40,320 –> 00:32:44,240
\npretty old, and he’d spent his
\nentire career being an advocate <\/p>\n
559
\n00:32:44,360 –> 00:32:49,280
\nfor atheism.
\nBut in 2004, he switched teams, <\/p>\n
560
\n00:32:50,640 –> 00:32:54,040
\nhe changed his mind, and he said
\nI’m not an atheist anymore. <\/p>\n
561
\n00:32:54,760 –> 00:32:58,080
\nAnd here’s what he said in an
\ninterview with ABC News in 2003.<\/p>\n
562
\n00:32:58,080 –> 00:33:00,600
\nHe said my whole life has been
\nguided by the principle of <\/p>\n
563
\n00:33:00,600 –> 00:33:04,320
\nPlato’s Socrates.
\nFollow the evidence wherever it <\/p>\n
564
\n00:33:04,320 –> 00:33:06,880
\nleads.
\nWell, I like this quote. <\/p>\n
565
\n00:33:06,880 –> 00:33:08,680
\nI think it’s a very
\nintellectually honest one. <\/p>\n
566
\n00:33:09,400 –> 00:33:11,560
\nIf you’re really looking for
\ntruth, then you’re going to be <\/p>\n
567
\n00:33:11,600 –> 00:33:14,360
\nall consumed by the evidence and
\nyou’re going to follow it in <\/p>\n
568
\n00:33:14,360 –> 00:33:17,600
\nwhatever direction it leads.
\nSo he says, I’ve always said <\/p>\n
569
\n00:33:17,600 –> 00:33:19,840
\nwherever the evidence takes me,
\nthat’s where I’ll go. <\/p>\n
570
\n00:33:21,320 –> 00:33:23,920
\nYou see the title of this
\ninterview. <\/p>\n
571
\n00:33:23,920 –> 00:33:25,920
\nFamous atheist now Believes in
\nGod. <\/p>\n
572
\n00:33:25,920 –> 00:33:30,160
\nAnd it’s no coincidence that
\nthis happened in 2004, right <\/p>\n
573
\n00:33:30,160 –> 00:33:33,880
\nafter the completion of the
\nHuman Genome Project, because at<\/p>\n
574
\n00:33:33,880 –> 00:33:36,440
\na symposium a little bit later,
\nthis is what he had to say. <\/p>\n
575
\n00:33:36,560 –> 00:33:40,280
\nThe reason why he said what I
\nthink the DNA material has done <\/p>\n
576
\n00:33:40,280 –> 00:33:43,880
\nis show that intelligence must
\nhave been involved in getting <\/p>\n
577
\n00:33:43,880 –> 00:33:46,440
\nthese extraordinarily diverse
\nelements together. <\/p>\n
578
\n00:33:49,520 –> 00:33:52,960
\nThe enormous complexity by which
\nthe results were achieved looked<\/p>\n
579
\n00:33:52,960 –> 00:33:56,280
\nto me like the work of
\nintelligence. <\/p>\n
580
\n00:33:57,240 –> 00:33:59,440
\nAnd he said there must have been
\na mind behind it all. <\/p>\n
581
\n00:33:59,640 –> 00:34:02,560
\nNow, to be fair to you right
\nnow, Anthony Flew didn’t become <\/p>\n
582
\n00:34:02,560 –> 00:34:04,440
\na Christian.
\nHe became what I described <\/p>\n
583
\n00:34:04,440 –> 00:34:07,360
\nearlier, a deist, somebody who
\nbelieves that there must be a <\/p>\n
584
\n00:34:07,360 –> 00:34:10,040
\nGod, but but that that God
\ndoesn’t speak to us now. <\/p>\n
585
\n00:34:10,040 –> 00:34:11,800
\nSo he wasn’t religious in that
\nsense. <\/p>\n
586
\n00:34:11,800 –> 00:34:16,159
\nBut you can imagine how this
\naffected the new Atheist <\/p>\n
587
\n00:34:16,159 –> 00:34:17,960
\ncommunity.
\nAt the time they were not very <\/p>\n
588
\n00:34:17,960 –> 00:34:20,920
\nhappy with Anthony Flu making
\nthis announcement and Richard <\/p>\n
589
\n00:34:20,920 –> 00:34:22,880
\nDawkins and Christopher Hitchens
\nand others. <\/p>\n
590
\n00:34:23,760 –> 00:34:27,560
\nWell, they said this once, Great
\nmind has gone senile and soft <\/p>\n
591
\n00:34:27,560 –> 00:34:30,520
\nand it’s a real tragedy.
\nBut if you were to go back to <\/p>\n
592
\n00:34:30,520 –> 00:34:33,639
\nand watch YouTube videos of
\nclips, interviews with Anthony <\/p>\n
593
\n00:34:33,639 –> 00:34:36,639
\nFlu at this time, you’ll find
\nthat this guy, at this time in <\/p>\n
594
\n00:34:36,639 –> 00:34:39,520
\nhis life, when he changed and
\nsaid I’m no longer an atheist, <\/p>\n
595
\n00:34:40,120 –> 00:34:42,840
\nhe was anything but senile.
\nYou’ll find him eloquent and <\/p>\n
596
\n00:34:42,840 –> 00:34:47,920
\nintelligent.
\nHe died in 2010, but he died <\/p>\n
597
\n00:34:47,920 –> 00:34:50,960
\nbelieving in God because of
\nwhere the evidence LED in the <\/p>\n
598
\n00:34:50,960 –> 00:34:53,880
\ngenetic field.
\nNow I want to switch to another <\/p>\n
599
\n00:34:53,880 –> 00:35:00,600
\nAve. of science.
\nThis is physics at the big sense<\/p>\n
600
\n00:35:00,600 –> 00:35:05,400
\nand the big sense, we’re looking
\nat the whole universe now, and I<\/p>\n
601
\n00:35:05,400 –> 00:35:07,840
\ndon’t even pretend to be able to
\nexplain this equation to you, <\/p>\n
602
\n00:35:07,840 –> 00:35:11,800
\nbut this is one of Einstein’s
\nfield equations, and right in <\/p>\n
603
\n00:35:11,800 –> 00:35:15,240
\nthe middle of it is this symbol,
\nthis one here it’s the Greek <\/p>\n
604
\n00:35:15,240 –> 00:35:18,960
\nsymbol Lambda.
\nAnd in this field equation it <\/p>\n
605
\n00:35:18,960 –> 00:35:22,200
\nrepresents the value of the
\nenergy density of the vacuum of <\/p>\n
606
\n00:35:22,200 –> 00:35:24,840
\nspace.
\nAnd when Einstein came up with <\/p>\n
607
\n00:35:24,840 –> 00:35:27,760
\nthis equation, he believed that
\nthe universe was static. <\/p>\n
608
\n00:35:28,200 –> 00:35:31,920
\nThat means it’s not moving, just
\nsitting here in one place, which<\/p>\n
609
\n00:35:31,920 –> 00:35:35,880
\nmeans that that number, which is
\nreferred to as the cosmological <\/p>\n
610
\n00:35:35,880 –> 00:35:41,760
\nconstant, was 0.
\nEinstein would later call this <\/p>\n
611
\n00:35:41,760 –> 00:35:46,440
\nhis single greatest blunder,
\nbecause later we discovered that<\/p>\n
612
\n00:35:46,440 –> 00:35:48,400
\nthe universe actually is not
\nsitting still. <\/p>\n
613
\n00:35:48,400 –> 00:35:50,080
\nIt’s not static.
\nIt’s expanding. <\/p>\n
614
\n00:35:51,880 –> 00:35:54,880
\nAnd in the 1990s, we discovered
\nthat not only is the universe <\/p>\n
615
\n00:35:54,880 –> 00:35:58,520
\nexpanding, it’s accelerating in
\nits expansion. <\/p>\n
616
\n00:35:58,560 –> 00:36:02,000
\nSo it’s not expanding at a
\nconstant pace, it’s expanding at<\/p>\n
617
\n00:36:02,000 –> 00:36:07,320
\nan ever more rapid rate, which
\nmeans that this cosmological <\/p>\n
618
\n00:36:07,320 –> 00:36:12,360
\nconstant representing the energy
\ndensity in the vacuum of space, <\/p>\n
619
\n00:36:12,360 –> 00:36:14,320
\nhad to be something other than
\n0. <\/p>\n
620
\n00:36:15,760 –> 00:36:19,400
\nAnd scientists don’t know
\nexactly what that number is. <\/p>\n
621
\n00:36:19,880 –> 00:36:25,920
\nThey’ve got a theory that it’s
\nsomething like this 10 to the <\/p>\n
622
\n00:36:25,920 –> 00:36:31,520
\npower of -120, which is an
\nextremely infinitesimally small <\/p>\n
623
\n00:36:31,960 –> 00:36:40,280
\nnumber.
\nWhatever that number is, if it <\/p>\n
624
\n00:36:40,280 –> 00:36:47,920
\nwas just marginally larger or
\nsmaller, the universe we are in <\/p>\n
625
\n00:36:47,920 –> 00:36:50,480
\ntoday would look nothing like
\nthe universe we’re in today. <\/p>\n
626
\n00:36:50,480 –> 00:36:53,520
\nIt would either collapse upon
\nitself or fly apart. <\/p>\n
627
\n00:36:54,080 –> 00:36:56,560
\nThat number has to be exactly
\nwhat it is. <\/p>\n
628
\n00:36:56,800 –> 00:37:01,320
\nThis is what is referred to by
\nmany as the fine tuning of the <\/p>\n
629
\n00:37:01,320 –> 00:37:06,920
\nuniverse and in a documentary
\ncalled Particle Fever about the <\/p>\n
630
\n00:37:06,920 –> 00:37:09,240
\ndiscovery of the Higgs boson.
\nIf you don’t know about that, <\/p>\n
631
\n00:37:09,240 –> 00:37:12,800
\nI’m going to tell you a little
\nbit about it in a minute, one of<\/p>\n
632
\n00:37:12,800 –> 00:37:16,440
\nthe world’s youngest and
\nbrightest physicists named Nima <\/p>\n
633
\n00:37:16,440 –> 00:37:19,760
\nAkani Hamed, says.
\nThis about the cosmological <\/p>\n
634
\n00:37:19,760 –> 00:37:23,520
\nconstant, he says.
\nIt needs to have an extremely <\/p>\n
635
\n00:37:23,520 –> 00:37:26,560
\nprecise value, and if the value
\nis different even by a tiny bit,<\/p>\n
636
\n00:37:26,560 –> 00:37:29,960
\nit would radically change what
\nthe world looks like around us. <\/p>\n
637
\n00:37:31,320 –> 00:37:34,400
\nIf you saw a situation where a
\nparameter has a very dangerous <\/p>\n
638
\n00:37:34,400 –> 00:37:37,160
\nvalue, where if you change it a
\nlittle bit, the world would <\/p>\n
639
\n00:37:37,160 –> 00:37:40,760
\nchange radically and we’d be
\ndead, you would wonder where <\/p>\n
640
\n00:37:40,760 –> 00:37:44,040
\nthat came from.
\nHow is that possible? <\/p>\n
641
\n00:37:45,640 –> 00:37:48,000
\nSo just on the face of it, you
\nwould look at the situation and <\/p>\n
642
\n00:37:48,000 –> 00:37:52,800
\nsay, wow, someone really cared
\nto put this parameter at just <\/p>\n
643
\n00:37:52,800 –> 00:37:56,320
\nthe right value so that we get
\nto be here and that it’s a <\/p>\n
644
\n00:37:56,320 –> 00:37:58,880
\npleasant universe.
\nThis is the sort of thing that <\/p>\n
645
\n00:37:59,040 –> 00:38:02,600
\nreally keeps you up at night.
\nNow, I’ve looked into Nimr Khani<\/p>\n
646
\n00:38:02,600 –> 00:38:04,280
\nHamad.
\nI really wanted to know what his<\/p>\n
647
\n00:38:04,280 –> 00:38:05,960
\nbeliefs were.
\nIs he an atheist? <\/p>\n
648
\n00:38:05,960 –> 00:38:08,800
\nIs he, is he religious?
\nIs he agnostic? <\/p>\n
649
\n00:38:08,800 –> 00:38:11,160
\nI couldn’t find out.
\nI don’t know. <\/p>\n
650
\n00:38:11,840 –> 00:38:14,440
\nBut nevertheless, here’s a
\nscientist, a physicist at the <\/p>\n
651
\n00:38:14,440 –> 00:38:17,720
\ntop of his field, saying this
\nkind of stuff. <\/p>\n
652
\n00:38:17,720 –> 00:38:20,160
\nMan, think about it all night
\nlong. <\/p>\n
653
\n00:38:20,160 –> 00:38:22,760
\nSometimes it just seems like
\nthere must have been a <\/p>\n
654
\n00:38:22,760 –> 00:38:25,720
\nmathematician behind it all.
\nNow, if you’ve looked at the <\/p>\n
655
\n00:38:25,720 –> 00:38:27,880
\ntitles of these classes, you’ll
\nknow that the third class is <\/p>\n
656
\n00:38:27,880 –> 00:38:30,440
\ncalled the language of
\nmathematics. <\/p>\n
657
\n00:38:30,440 –> 00:38:36,240
\nSo stay tuned for that one.
\nI want to talk to you about <\/p>\n
658
\n00:38:36,560 –> 00:38:39,840
\nsomething that’s kind of a
\ndangerous mindset sometimes for <\/p>\n
659
\n00:38:39,840 –> 00:38:42,400
\npeople who believe in God.
\nIt’s a phrase. <\/p>\n
660
\n00:38:42,400 –> 00:38:47,280
\nIt’s called God of the Gaps.
\nGod of the Gaps is the mindset <\/p>\n
661
\n00:38:47,320 –> 00:38:50,320
\nthat goes like this.
\nYou believe that whatever God <\/p>\n
662
\n00:38:50,320 –> 00:38:54,640
\nhas done, we’re incapable of
\nbeing able to explain it or <\/p>\n
663
\n00:38:54,640 –> 00:39:03,200
\ncomprehend it in any way.
\nSo if we can explain it, maybe <\/p>\n
664
\n00:39:03,200 –> 00:39:07,000
\nthat means God didn’t do it.
\nNow we don’t think that. <\/p>\n
665
\n00:39:07,000 –> 00:39:10,240
\nWe don’t think that far through,
\nbut often perhaps we fall into <\/p>\n
666
\n00:39:10,240 –> 00:39:12,720
\nthis trap of thinking that we’ll
\nnever be able to understand this<\/p>\n
667
\n00:39:12,720 –> 00:39:14,680
\nstuff because God is so much
\ngreater than we are. <\/p>\n
668
\n00:39:14,680 –> 00:39:15,960
\nWe’ll never be able to explain
\nit. <\/p>\n
669
\n00:39:16,120 –> 00:39:19,880
\nBut the problem with thinking
\nthat way is that the God that <\/p>\n
670
\n00:39:19,880 –> 00:39:22,760
\nyou believe in exists within the
\ngaps of human understanding. <\/p>\n
671
\n00:39:23,800 –> 00:39:26,200
\nThings that we didn’t know 100
\nyears ago that we thought of as <\/p>\n
672
\n00:39:26,200 –> 00:39:29,120
\nmiraculous, we can now explain
\nthe mechanics of how those <\/p>\n
673
\n00:39:29,120 –> 00:39:32,760
\nthings work.
\nSo if this is the way you think,<\/p>\n
674
\n00:39:32,760 –> 00:39:35,840
\nthen the God you believe in is
\nshrinking as scientific <\/p>\n
675
\n00:39:35,840 –> 00:39:39,880
\nunderstanding grows.
\nAnd so the important thing to <\/p>\n
676
\n00:39:39,880 –> 00:39:43,360
\nunderstand is that God is the
\nGod of the whole show and we <\/p>\n
677
\n00:39:43,360 –> 00:39:45,480
\nmight be able to explain some of
\nwhat he’s done. <\/p>\n
678
\n00:39:45,480 –> 00:39:47,320
\nThat doesn’t mean he didn’t
\ndesign it. <\/p>\n
679
\n00:39:49,000 –> 00:39:51,880
\nJust because those Aboriginals
\ntore apart that Ford truck and <\/p>\n
680
\n00:39:51,880 –> 00:39:55,080
\nthere was no God inside doesn’t
\nmean that there is no God. <\/p>\n
681
\n00:39:55,280 –> 00:39:57,720
\nJust because you can explain the
\nmechanics of how the universe <\/p>\n
682
\n00:39:57,720 –> 00:39:59,880
\nworks doesn’t mean there was a
\nmind behind it all. <\/p>\n
683
\n00:40:00,040 –> 00:40:03,120
\nEspecially when you look at
\nevery Ave. of science and you <\/p>\n
684
\n00:40:03,120 –> 00:40:06,880
\nsee purpose there.
\nThat’s the stamp of the creator <\/p>\n
685
\n00:40:06,880 –> 00:40:11,520
\nthat Paul talked about.
\nEvery once in a while we think <\/p>\n
686
\n00:40:12,000 –> 00:40:16,200
\nas a species, maybe as as a
\nscientific community, scientific<\/p>\n
687
\n00:40:16,200 –> 00:40:19,640
\ncommunity thinks they’re about
\nto close the door, close the gap<\/p>\n
688
\n00:40:19,880 –> 00:40:25,480
\non some grand subject only to
\nrealize that, man, we really <\/p>\n
689
\n00:40:25,480 –> 00:40:26,840
\ndidn’t know anything at all, did
\nwe? <\/p>\n
690
\n00:40:27,480 –> 00:40:29,880
\nAnd this is the case with the
\ndiscovery of the Higgs boson. <\/p>\n
691
\n00:40:30,240 –> 00:40:33,200
\nWe talked about the mass, energy
\ndensity in the vacuum of space <\/p>\n
692
\n00:40:33,200 –> 00:40:36,840
\nand and the reality is in space
\nthings move the way they <\/p>\n
693
\n00:40:36,840 –> 00:40:39,680
\nshouldn’t based on what we could
\nsee before the discovery of the <\/p>\n
694
\n00:40:39,680 –> 00:40:42,840
\nHiggs boson.
\nSo that there was theorized this<\/p>\n
695
\n00:40:42,840 –> 00:40:45,920
\nfield called a Higgs field by a
\nscientist named Peter Higgs. <\/p>\n
696
\n00:40:45,920 –> 00:40:49,240
\nAnd that’s some other scientists
\nin the 1960s think of it kind of<\/p>\n
697
\n00:40:49,240 –> 00:40:53,560
\nlike just molasses, which would
\ndescribe why things move slowly <\/p>\n
698
\n00:40:53,560 –> 00:40:56,040
\nthrough space when it seems like
\nthey should move a lot faster. <\/p>\n
699
\n00:40:56,040 –> 00:40:58,680
\nSome uninvisible field that we
\ncan’t see. <\/p>\n
700
\n00:40:59,320 –> 00:41:02,960
\nAnd if this were true, then he
\ndefined what the particle that <\/p>\n
701
\n00:41:03,160 –> 00:41:05,280
\nwould look like that created
\nthis field. <\/p>\n
702
\n00:41:05,280 –> 00:41:07,360
\nIt was called the Higgs boson.
\nIt would look like this. <\/p>\n
703
\n00:41:07,360 –> 00:41:09,720
\nIt would have these
\ncharacteristics, but it would be<\/p>\n
704
\n00:41:09,720 –> 00:41:12,600
\nreally hard to see.
\nAnd it wasn’t until modern times<\/p>\n
705
\n00:41:12,600 –> 00:41:14,520
\nthat we had the technology to be
\nable to see it. <\/p>\n
706
\n00:41:15,640 –> 00:41:20,240
\nAnd from 1998 to 2008, a Large
\nHadron Collider was built in <\/p>\n
707
\n00:41:20,240 –> 00:41:23,120
\nGeneva, Switzerland.
\nThis is a 27 kilometer long <\/p>\n
708
\n00:41:23,120 –> 00:41:25,040
\nloop.
\nIt’s a particle accelerator. <\/p>\n
709
\n00:41:25,040 –> 00:41:27,240
\nIt shoots particles around and
\naround so they’re almost the <\/p>\n
710
\n00:41:27,240 –> 00:41:29,720
\nspeed of light and then it
\ncrashes them into each other. <\/p>\n
711
\n00:41:29,920 –> 00:41:33,400
\nAnd it has very precise cameras
\nthat take pictures of what <\/p>\n
712
\n00:41:33,400 –> 00:41:37,520
\nhappens in a very minuscule
\nfraction of a cent second and <\/p>\n
713
\n00:41:38,040 –> 00:41:39,920
\nthat moment when the explosion
\noccurs. <\/p>\n
714
\n00:41:40,480 –> 00:41:42,880
\nAnd finally, we had the
\ntechnology to be able to see and<\/p>\n
715
\n00:41:42,880 –> 00:41:45,840
\ndiscover the Higgs boson if it
\nreally exists, and they had to <\/p>\n
716
\n00:41:45,840 –> 00:41:48,800
\ntest it for a few years.
\nIt wasn’t until 2012, when the <\/p>\n
717
\n00:41:48,800 –> 00:41:52,440
\nfirst Test was officially
\nperformed with the Large Hadron <\/p>\n
718
\n00:41:52,440 –> 00:41:57,040
\nCollider and around the world,
\nscientists sat in rooms with <\/p>\n
719
\n00:41:57,040 –> 00:41:59,640
\ntelevisions, sometimes in the
\nmiddle of the night in some <\/p>\n
720
\n00:41:59,640 –> 00:42:03,200
\nparts of the world, waiting to
\nhear if they’d see it. <\/p>\n
721
\n00:42:04,160 –> 00:42:06,560
\nAnd they did.
\nThey discovered the Higgs boson,<\/p>\n
722
\n00:42:07,600 –> 00:42:11,160
\nand a lot was riding on the
\nactual mass of this particle. <\/p>\n
723
\n00:42:11,720 –> 00:42:15,680
\nIf it was about 115 giga
\nelectron volts, then it was <\/p>\n
724
\n00:42:15,680 –> 00:42:18,640
\ngoing to go to prove one
\nparticular theory about the <\/p>\n
725
\n00:42:18,640 –> 00:42:21,440
\nscope of the universe called a
\nbody of theories called <\/p>\n
726
\n00:42:21,440 –> 00:42:23,960
\nsupersymmetry, which kind of
\nsays that every particle has <\/p>\n
727
\n00:42:23,960 –> 00:42:26,280
\nanother corresponding particle,
\nwe just haven’t discovered them <\/p>\n
728
\n00:42:26,280 –> 00:42:29,280
\nall yet.
\nBut if the mass of the Higgs <\/p>\n
729
\n00:42:29,280 –> 00:42:34,280
\nboson was more like 140 giga
\nelectron volts, then it was <\/p>\n
730
\n00:42:34,280 –> 00:42:38,480
\ngoing to instead go to prove the
\nmultiverse series of theories. <\/p>\n
731
\n00:42:38,480 –> 00:42:39,760
\nMaybe you’ve heard of the
\nmultiverse. <\/p>\n
732
\n00:42:40,000 –> 00:42:42,320
\nThis is the idea that there are
\nan infinite number of other <\/p>\n
733
\n00:42:42,320 –> 00:42:45,600
\nuniverses out there, and we just
\nhappened to be in the one that <\/p>\n
734
\n00:42:45,600 –> 00:42:48,360
\nwe’re in, the one that supports
\nlife, but they’re just an <\/p>\n
735
\n00:42:48,360 –> 00:42:51,640
\ninfinite number of others.
\nThat’s the body of of multiverse<\/p>\n
736
\n00:42:51,640 –> 00:42:54,360
\ntheories.
\nAnd the mass of the Higgs boson <\/p>\n
737
\n00:42:54,360 –> 00:42:57,000
\nwas going to determine, I cannot
\nexplain to you why, but was <\/p>\n
738
\n00:42:57,000 –> 00:42:59,120
\ngoing to determine for many
\nscientists which one of these <\/p>\n
739
\n00:42:59,120 –> 00:43:05,600
\ntheories was most likely true.
\nSo several weeks went by before <\/p>\n
740
\n00:43:05,600 –> 00:43:08,680
\nthey’re able to actually go
\nthrough all the results and <\/p>\n
741
\n00:43:08,680 –> 00:43:13,960
\nconfirm them.
\nAnd it turned out to be right in<\/p>\n
742
\n00:43:13,960 –> 00:43:19,120
\nthe middle, 125 giga electron
\nvolts, which meant that nobody <\/p>\n
743
\n00:43:19,120 –> 00:43:21,400
\nknew anything anymore.
\nAll the theories had to be <\/p>\n
744
\n00:43:21,400 –> 00:43:23,960
\nrewritten.
\nNeither one of them was really <\/p>\n
745
\n00:43:23,960 –> 00:43:25,480
\naccurate.
\nAnd at the end of that <\/p>\n
746
\n00:43:25,480 –> 00:43:28,200
\ndocumentary I told you about
\nearlier, particle fear, which is<\/p>\n
747
\n00:43:28,200 –> 00:43:30,040
\nall about the discovery of the
\nHiggs boson. <\/p>\n
748
\n00:43:30,040 –> 00:43:32,960
\nOne of the scientists that’s
\nfeatured in it had this to say, <\/p>\n
749
\n00:43:32,960 –> 00:43:36,680
\nas he’s driving home from just
\nfinding out that this is the <\/p>\n
750
\n00:43:36,680 –> 00:43:40,880
\nmass of the Higgs boson.
\nHe he’s still struggling to to <\/p>\n
751
\n00:43:41,040 –> 00:43:44,080
\ncomprehend it.
\nAnd he says if this is true, the<\/p>\n
752
\n00:43:44,080 –> 00:43:48,000
\nHiggs is about 125 Gev, and that
\nmeans that almost all of my <\/p>\n
753
\n00:43:48,000 –> 00:43:50,680
\nmodels are ruled out, which is
\npretty cool. <\/p>\n
754
\n00:43:51,280 –> 00:43:53,520
\nSupersymmetry could still be
\ntrue, but it would have to be a <\/p>\n
755
\n00:43:53,520 –> 00:43:55,320
\nvery strange version of the
\ntheory. <\/p>\n
756
\n00:43:56,800 –> 00:43:59,960
\nIf it’s the multiverse, well,
\nother universes would be amazing<\/p>\n
757
\n00:43:59,960 –> 00:44:03,080
\nof course, but it would also
\nmean that no other new particles<\/p>\n
758
\n00:44:03,080 –> 00:44:08,520
\nwould be discovered.
\nSo anyway, we have something to <\/p>\n
759
\n00:44:08,520 –> 00:44:10,720
\ndo.
\nScientists can be weird <\/p>\n
760
\n00:44:10,720 –> 00:44:12,760
\nsometimes.
\nHe was really excited about the <\/p>\n
761
\n00:44:12,840 –> 00:44:15,120
\nfact that all of his theories
\nwere wrong and he had to start <\/p>\n
762
\n00:44:15,120 –> 00:44:16,160
\nall over again.
\nHe said. <\/p>\n
763
\n00:44:16,160 –> 00:44:20,800
\nWell, we’ve got work to do
\nbecause there are a lot of times<\/p>\n
764
\n00:44:20,800 –> 00:44:24,160
\nwhen we realize how small and
\ninsignificant we are in our <\/p>\n
765
\n00:44:24,160 –> 00:44:27,880
\ncomplexity when compared to our
\ncreator, and how much we don’t <\/p>\n
766
\n00:44:27,880 –> 00:44:30,320
\nhave figured out.
\nAnd sometimes it seems like a <\/p>\n
767
\n00:44:30,320 –> 00:44:33,800
\ngap is almost closed and then it
\ngets blown wide open again. <\/p>\n
768
\n00:44:35,600 –> 00:44:40,440
\nNow, we’ve talked a lot about
\nscience and several different <\/p>\n
769
\n00:44:40,440 –> 00:44:42,880
\nscientific fields and the
\nhistory of science. <\/p>\n
770
\n00:44:44,480 –> 00:44:47,120
\nAnd you might be wondering, are
\nwe going to deal with evidence <\/p>\n
771
\n00:44:47,120 –> 00:44:51,080
\nfor the Bible at all, For the
\nproof that the Bible is the <\/p>\n
772
\n00:44:51,080 –> 00:44:54,160
\ninspired word of God, that Jesus
\nis the son of God, that he <\/p>\n
773
\n00:44:54,160 –> 00:44:55,400
\nreally was resurrected from the
\ndead. <\/p>\n
774
\n00:44:55,400 –> 00:44:59,240
\nAnd the answer is yes.
\nWe’re going to start with that <\/p>\n
775
\n00:44:59,240 –> 00:45:02,360
\ntomorrow morning.
\nAnd to segue into that, I want <\/p>\n
776
\n00:45:02,360 –> 00:45:06,000
\nto show you another video clip,
\nand this is a clip of the second<\/p>\n
777
\n00:45:06,000 –> 00:45:08,560
\ndebate that happened between the
\nsame two men you saw before, <\/p>\n
778
\n00:45:08,560 –> 00:45:12,400
\nRichard Dawkins and John Lennox.
\nThis one happened in 2008. <\/p>\n
779
\n00:45:13,280 –> 00:45:17,720
\nAnd the Oxford Museum of Natural
\nHistory, the historic site we’re<\/p>\n
780
\n00:45:17,720 –> 00:45:21,120
\nseeing, the Wilberforce and TH
\nHuxley had that debate in 1860, <\/p>\n
781
\n00:45:21,320 –> 00:45:25,280
\nall those years ago.
\nSo have a listen and then we’ll <\/p>\n
782
\n00:45:25,280 –> 00:45:28,120
\nclose after we listen to this
\nvideo that I think is just a <\/p>\n
783
\n00:45:28,120 –> 00:45:31,720
\nlittle over 2 minutes long.
\nJust to note this video, I’ve <\/p>\n
784
\n00:45:31,720 –> 00:45:34,560
\nspliced a few parts of it
\ntogether to keep 1 theme of the <\/p>\n
785
\n00:45:34,560 –> 00:45:36,720
\nconversation going.
\nSo just keep that in mind. <\/p>\n
786
\n00:45:36,720 –> 00:45:39,160
\nThere’s one point where somebody
\nsays, well of course it is. <\/p>\n
787
\n00:45:39,440 –> 00:45:40,760
\nThat’s when I jumped forward in
\ntime. <\/p>\n
788
\n00:45:40,760 –> 00:45:42,640
\nIt doesn’t relate to what was
\njust said. <\/p>\n
789
\n00:45:42,760 –> 00:45:43,600
\nKeep that in mind.
\nThe dog. <\/p>\n
790
\n00:45:49,200 –> 00:45:54,400
\nDivision, you said that it’s
\nunder sorry, the issue among the<\/p>\n
791
\n00:45:54,400 –> 00:45:57,920
\nstories that Jesus actually
\nexisted. <\/p>\n
792
\n00:45:58,800 –> 00:46:00,640
\nI check for the age of the
\nstory. <\/p>\n
793
\n00:46:00,760 –> 00:46:04,920
\nThat is not so.
\nAnd the story history is not <\/p>\n
794
\n00:46:04,920 –> 00:46:09,240
\nnatural science.
\nBut what I don’t understand is <\/p>\n
795
\n00:46:09,240 –> 00:46:11,400
\nthis why you would write
\nsomething like that? <\/p>\n
796
\n00:46:12,880 –> 00:46:15,160
\nI don’t think it’s very
\nimportant question. <\/p>\n
797
\n00:46:16,000 –> 00:46:47,880
\nThat has not even.
\nWay of history and let’s let’s <\/p>\n
798
\n00:46:47,880 –> 00:46:52,280
\nsee the time and maybe like like
\nthe other vision of possibility <\/p>\n
799
\n00:46:52,280 –> 00:46:56,080
\nthat some sort of thing Jesus
\nexisted. <\/p>\n
800
\n00:46:56,720 –> 00:47:00,600
\nHowever, you’re going to say
\nthat Jesus will form a virgin of<\/p>\n
801
\n00:47:00,640 –> 00:47:03,240
\nJesus water eternal washing into
\nwine. <\/p>\n
802
\n00:47:03,560 –> 00:47:07,640
\nThat is probably as decided
\nthere is no religious. <\/p>\n
803
\n00:47:08,920 –> 00:47:15,520
\nSo when you say anti scientific
\nI what I mean like that is that <\/p>\n
804
\n00:47:15,520 –> 00:47:18,880
\nif at the good science you
\nconstantly have to keep in mind <\/p>\n
805
\n00:47:18,880 –> 00:47:22,320
\nthat any then my little magic
\ntricks. <\/p>\n
806
\n00:47:24,200 –> 00:47:33,720
\nNo, no.
\nBecause in order to recognize <\/p>\n
807
\n00:47:33,760 –> 00:47:38,520
\nthe testament called miracle,
\nespecially after God, you must <\/p>\n
808
\n00:47:38,520 –> 00:47:41,520
\nbe living.
\nThe universe that has <\/p>\n
809
\n00:47:41,640 –> 00:47:43,840
\nregularities that will be
\nrecognized. <\/p>\n
810
\n00:47:43,920 –> 00:47:48,480
\nI agree with you with the fact
\nthat that’s exactly, I would <\/p>\n
811
\n00:47:48,480 –> 00:47:51,320
\nrecognize, deadly, more public
\nall over the place. <\/p>\n
812
\n00:47:51,320 –> 00:47:54,720
\nYou would think it was very
\nspecial, but the fact is you <\/p>\n
813
\n00:47:54,720 –> 00:47:59,600
\nneed two things, not one.
\nWe’ve got the regularities, <\/p>\n
814
\n00:47:59,600 –> 00:48:02,920
\nwhich we call the laws of
\nnature, but we’re not called in <\/p>\n
815
\n00:48:02,920 –> 00:48:05,640
\na sense descriptive that we can
\nuse. <\/p>\n
816
\n00:48:06,280 –> 00:48:11,560
\nHe also need to be able to
\nrecognize those so that, for <\/p>\n
817
\n00:48:11,560 –> 00:48:18,200
\nexample, when Joseph discovered
\nthat his right to be very <\/p>\n
818
\n00:48:18,280 –> 00:48:21,200
\nfriendly, he certainly didn’t do
\nthe he was over the North. <\/p>\n
819
\n00:48:21,360 –> 00:48:24,480
\nHe did exactly where they stand,
\nbut he didn’t do anything. <\/p>\n
820
\n00:48:24,960 –> 00:48:29,400
\nIt took very special convincing
\nfor him to realize that <\/p>\n
821
\n00:48:29,400 –> 00:48:34,320
\nsomething extremely special can
\nhappen, but science cannot stop <\/p>\n
822
\n00:48:34,360 –> 00:48:36,200
\nthat.
\nThe question is of course. <\/p>\n
823
\n00:48:36,720 –> 00:48:40,840
\nDid such a thing ever happened?
\nAnd the central focus of the New<\/p>\n
824
\n00:48:40,840 –> 00:48:44,520
\nTestament is not that which is
\nnot so readily accessible to <\/p>\n
825
\n00:48:44,520 –> 00:48:48,600
\nevidence, version, perception,
\nbut the resurrection of Christ <\/p>\n
826
\n00:48:48,920 –> 00:48:52,160
\nand ancient historians,
\nfascinatingly. <\/p>\n
827
\n00:48:52,160 –> 00:48:56,400
\nBasically going over ancient
\nhistorians whose discipline is <\/p>\n
828
\n00:48:56,400 –> 00:48:59,920
\nvery available and not only
\nChristian ancient historians, <\/p>\n
829
\n00:49:00,480 –> 00:49:04,560
\nancient historians.
\nMany of them, even at the <\/p>\n
830
\n00:49:04,560 –> 00:49:08,480
\nsceptical end of the spectrum,
\nsay that the evidence for the <\/p>\n
831
\n00:49:08,480 –> 00:49:10,840
\nresurrection of Christ is very
\npowerful. <\/p>\n
832
\n00:49:11,040 –> 00:49:14,520
\nThe explosion of the Christian
\nChurch from a long process of <\/p>\n
833
\n00:49:14,520 –> 00:49:18,280
\nChristian group of Jews in the
\n1st century, the empty trim of <\/p>\n
834
\n00:49:18,280 –> 00:49:21,880
\nthe whole rest of it, has even
\nLED gates on Hermesh, is one of <\/p>\n
835
\n00:49:21,880 –> 00:49:26,280
\nthe most distinguished ancient
\nhistorians of Oxford to to say <\/p>\n
836
\n00:49:26,360 –> 00:49:36,160
\nyes to plenty and hallucinae.
\nSo we have to ask her about how <\/p>\n
837
\n00:49:36,160 –> 00:49:39,160
\nbeing prepared to believe the
\nstory potentially or not. <\/p>\n
838
\n00:49:44,800 –> 00:49:48,600
\nSo we’ve just spent a lot of
\ntime talking about science and <\/p>\n
839
\n00:49:48,600 –> 00:49:51,960
\nhow we can see God in the
\nnatural world and how science is<\/p>\n
840
\n00:49:51,960 –> 00:49:55,120
\nnot opposed to religion, that
\nthe two very much work in <\/p>\n
841
\n00:49:55,120 –> 00:49:56,560
\nharmony.
\nApostle Paul said that you <\/p>\n
842
\n00:49:56,560 –> 00:50:00,800
\nshould be able to, through
\nscience, see God, and we’ve seen<\/p>\n
843
\n00:50:00,800 –> 00:50:03,880
\nhow that is true in in several
\nareas of the sciences. <\/p>\n
844
\n00:50:05,400 –> 00:50:09,000
\nBut once we believe that there
\nis a God, then we’ve still got a<\/p>\n
845
\n00:50:09,000 –> 00:50:13,960
\nlot of questions in front of us.
\nLike did he speak to us? <\/p>\n
846
\n00:50:15,040 –> 00:50:17,800
\nIs this book that we have in
\nfront of us reliable? <\/p>\n
847
\n00:50:17,800 –> 00:50:21,360
\nIs it the word of God?
\nWas Jesus truly the Son of God <\/p>\n
848
\n00:50:21,360 –> 00:50:24,080
\nor just a regular historical
\nfigure? <\/p>\n
849
\n00:50:25,840 –> 00:50:30,120
\nAnd that last one is where we’re
\ngonna start our thoughts <\/p>\n
850
\n00:50:30,200 –> 00:50:30,840
\ntomorrow morning.\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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