{"id":1036,"date":"2023-11-19T22:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-19T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/270-dev-ramcharan-israels-spiritual-adultery\/"},"modified":"2026-07-28T09:59:35","modified_gmt":"2026-07-28T09:59:35","slug":"270-dev-ramcharan-israels-spiritual-adultery","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/goodchristadelphiantalks.com\/index.php\/podcast\/270-dev-ramcharan-israels-spiritual-adultery\/","title":{"rendered":"270: Dev Ramcharan – Israel’s Spiritual Adultery"},"content":{"rendered":"

This week we are listening to the second class from a series titled “Hosea – When Israel was a Child, I Loved Him” that was given by Bro. Dev Ramcharan in Australia in September of 2023.<\/p>\n

We hope this strengthens your Faith and brightens your day!<\/p>\n

Thank you for listening, God bless, and talk to you next week.<\/p>\n

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\nWelcome to Good Chris Selfie and
\ntalks. <\/p>\n

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\nI’m Levi.
\nAnd I’m Chris. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd I’m Brian.
\nThank you for joining us this <\/p>\n

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\nweek on this podcast.
\nWe select one Talk a week to <\/p>\n

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\nhelp us get the Bible in our
\nDaily News feed. <\/p>\n

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\nWe post a new episode at the
\nstart of each week. <\/p>\n

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\nWith a short intro beforehand to
\nkind of set the stage for the <\/p>\n

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\ntalk you’re about to listen to.
\nAnd now let’s talk more about <\/p>\n

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\nthis week’s talk.
\nThis is Brother Brian. <\/p>\n

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\nThis week’s talk is the second
\nclass in a series that was given<\/p>\n

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\nby brother Dev Ramsharan.
\nOn the topic Hosea, from this <\/p>\n

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\npast September in Australia, it
\nwould appear that Brother Dev <\/p>\n

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\nwas brought over to give a
\nnumber of different talks in <\/p>\n

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\nvarious places.
\nSo there’s plenty of good <\/p>\n

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\nmaterial to scope out and we
\ncertainly thank the sister who <\/p>\n

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\nsent in these recommendations
\nwith active links hot off the <\/p>\n

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\npress.
\nThat’s very much appreciated. <\/p>\n

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\nOut of all the classes, the
\nHosea study was the most <\/p>\n

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\nintriguing to me because the
\nstory on face value is just <\/p>\n

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\nbrutal to have to put yourself
\nin his shoes and imagine what <\/p>\n

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\nthat scenario would be like.
\nSo Brother Dev does a great job <\/p>\n

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\nof bringing out all the finer
\nand more blunt points over the <\/p>\n

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\nseries of four classes.
\nBut the second one that we’re <\/p>\n

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\nlistening to here stood out the
\nmost, with an abundance of cut <\/p>\n

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\nto the heart, practical
\ntakeaways, and memorable <\/p>\n

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\nanalogies and metaphors.
\nFrom a study perspective, <\/p>\n

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\nthere’s a cool tidbit in here
\nabout the price that Hosea had <\/p>\n

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\nto pay in order to get Gomer
\nback. <\/p>\n

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\nIt being half in silver, half in
\nbarley, and what was the meaning<\/p>\n

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\nof all of that?
\nBut overall, I would suggest <\/p>\n

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\nthis class as one that was just
\na very powerful take on a very <\/p>\n

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\nharsh story.
\nBrother Deb reminds us that <\/p>\n

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\nthrough all of the heartbreak
\nthat Israel put him through, God<\/p>\n

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\nwas all the more willing to
\nshow. <\/p>\n

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\nHis long-suffering and care for
\nhis people, even to the offering<\/p>\n

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\nof his only begotten son as a
\ntestament of his commitment to <\/p>\n

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\nall of us.
\nAnd nothing will separate us <\/p>\n

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\nfrom his love for us.
\nSo as always, we hope that this <\/p>\n

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\nstrengthens your faith and
\nbrightens your day. <\/p>\n

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\nBrother Dev Ramchuran Hosea,
\nIsrael’s. <\/p>\n

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\nSpiritual adultery.
\nThe second chapter of Hosea <\/p>\n

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\nbegins with the following words.
\nSay unto your brethren, AMI, and<\/p>\n

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\nto your sisters.
\nRuhama plead with your mother, <\/p>\n

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\nplead for she is not my wife.
\nSo it’s almost as if God is <\/p>\n

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\nsaying.
\nGo tell your son Jezreel to <\/p>\n

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\nstand up and plead a case
\nagainst her mother as if his <\/p>\n

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\nmother as if she was in in court
\nand we were in front of a judge,<\/p>\n

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\nand talk to her about how she’s
\nliving and the way she is <\/p>\n

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\ntreating her family and treating
\nher marriage and through through<\/p>\n

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\nthis.
\nActed out parable in a man’s <\/p>\n

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\nlife, God is showing Hosea and
\nthe nation what it was that <\/p>\n

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\nIsrael put him through.
\nNow when you look at the <\/p>\n

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\nprophets to Israel, they come
\nright at that end stage the last<\/p>\n

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\nfew years of the existence of
\nthe Kingdom of Israel and the <\/p>\n

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\nnorth.
\nAnd you, you would ask yourself <\/p>\n

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\nthe question.
\nWhy would God go to the trouble <\/p>\n

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\nwhen they wouldn’t listen and
\njust a tiny remnant of them <\/p>\n

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\nwould survive?
\nWhy would he go to all this <\/p>\n

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\ntrouble?
\nWhy did Jesus offer Judas <\/p>\n

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\nIscariot the SOP?
\nHe knew he had betrayed him. <\/p>\n

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\nHe knew he wouldn’t turn from
\nwhat he was going to do. <\/p>\n

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\nHe knew that Judas would go all
\nthe way through, and even <\/p>\n

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\nknowing that and knowing that
\nScripture had predicted all <\/p>\n

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\nthese things, there is Christ
\nstill working with a brother, <\/p>\n

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\njust in case he can turn him
\naround. <\/p>\n

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\nHe did that because that’s the
\nway God is, because that’s the <\/p>\n

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\nway God was.
\nWith this rebellious people. <\/p>\n

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\nGod, God knew them.
\nHe says it right in the chapter <\/p>\n

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\nthat was just read for us.
\nI know your heart, O Ephraim. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd yet he still sends a Hosea.
\nHe still allows this man to <\/p>\n

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\nplunge into the depths of
\nheartache and loss. <\/p>\n

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\nAll of those things.
\nBecause he loved Israel deeply, <\/p>\n

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\ndeeply.
\nSo it goes on in chapter 2 and <\/p>\n

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\nhe says, look, you need to do
\nthese things lest I strip her <\/p>\n

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\nnaked and set her as the day
\nthat she was born. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd surely some of you will be
\nthinking of Ezekiel chapter 16, <\/p>\n

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\nwhere God represents himself as
\nwalking along and he sees this <\/p>\n

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\nlittle baby girl.
\nShe still has the umbilical cord<\/p>\n

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\nattached to her.
\nShe’s thrashing around in her <\/p>\n

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\nblood.
\nShe’s just been born and pitched<\/p>\n

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\nout, rejected by the mother that
\nbore her. <\/p>\n

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\nHe picks up that baby in her
\nnakedness, in her blood, and he <\/p>\n

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\nsays live.
\nAnd he cares for her and he <\/p>\n

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\nloves her.
\nAnd so here he says. <\/p>\n

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\nI need you to talk to her so
\nthat her thinking will change, <\/p>\n

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\nso that I don’t have to put her
\nback down onto the ground, so <\/p>\n

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\nthat she can continue to thrash
\nin her blood pitched out by the <\/p>\n

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\npeople who should have loved her
\nand looked after her. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd so he goes on and he says.
\nAs in the day that she was born <\/p>\n

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\nand make her as a wilderness and
\nset her like a dry land. <\/p>\n

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\nLook at the attitude that Israel
\nhas. <\/p>\n

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\nIsrael looks at all of these
\nlovers that she has, and in the <\/p>\n

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\ncontext of the passage, it’s
\nabout the gods that she worships<\/p>\n

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\noutside of Yahweh, together with
\nworshipping Yahweh, that <\/p>\n

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\nhorrible, nasty amalgam.
\nOf religion that she had and it <\/p>\n

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\nsays in verse 5 for she said I
\nwill go after my lovers that <\/p>\n

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\ngive me my bread and my water
\nand my wool and my flax and mine<\/p>\n

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\noil and my drink.
\nLook at the repetition of that. <\/p>\n

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\nThat word, mine, mine.
\nIt’s all about me. <\/p>\n

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\nIt’s this thing that belongs to
\nme that I have, that I’ve gotten<\/p>\n

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\nfrom my lovers.
\nAnd she hadn’t gotten it from <\/p>\n

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\nthose lovers.
\nShe’d gotten these things from <\/p>\n

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\nher actual God, Yahweh, her
\nhusband, that she’d spurned. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd then he goes on verse seven,
\nshe shall follow after her <\/p>\n

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\nlovers.
\nBut she shall not overtake them,<\/p>\n

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\nand she shall seek them, but
\nshall not find them. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd just before he says that,
\nGod says I’m good, going to put <\/p>\n

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\na hedge in place so she can’t
\nfind her lovers anymore. <\/p>\n

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\nGod made it hard for Israel to
\nsin, but she still found ways. <\/p>\n

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\nNow it’s the same thing with us,
\nisn’t it? <\/p>\n

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\nGod puts in boundaries, things
\nin our conscience, things from <\/p>\n

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\nthe word of God, words our
\nparents have taught us or or or <\/p>\n

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\nor or told us as they were
\nraising us, the words of our <\/p>\n

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\nbrothers and sisters around us,
\nAll these things. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd yet we still find ways to
\nsin. <\/p>\n

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\nEvery one of us.
\nWe know the bypass, We know how <\/p>\n

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\nto get under, get over, get
\naround that hedge. <\/p>\n

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\nBut God still puts a hedge in
\nplace. <\/p>\n

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\nHe still put something in place.
\nThat provides A boundary line, a<\/p>\n

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\nlimit, a deterrent to doing
\nthose things we want to do. <\/p>\n

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\nBut Israel found a way around
\nand it says in verse 9. <\/p>\n

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\nTherefore will I return and take
\naway my corn? <\/p>\n

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\nIt was mine.
\nIt wasn’t from the gods that she<\/p>\n

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\nworshipped.
\nIn the time thereof, and my wine<\/p>\n

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\nin the season thereof, and will
\npluck away my wool and my flax, <\/p>\n

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\nwhich should have covered her
\nnakedness. <\/p>\n

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\nSo he corrects all the My’s and
\nminds, and he says all that <\/p>\n

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\nstuff, all those things, all
\nthat prosperity. <\/p>\n

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\nIt belonged to me.
\nI’m going to take it all back. <\/p>\n

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\nIt was the story of a brother
\nwho had everything a person <\/p>\n

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\ncould want in this world.
\nHe’d worked hard, he’d <\/p>\n

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\naccumulated it, put it together.
\nIt was his life. <\/p>\n

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\nHe was full of it, full of
\npride. <\/p>\n

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\nBecause of all the things that
\nhe had, it lifted him in his <\/p>\n

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\nmind, above his brothers and
\nsisters. <\/p>\n

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\nHe became unapproachable,
\njudgmental, hard, critical, <\/p>\n

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\nedgy.
\nCircumstances changed in his <\/p>\n

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\nlife and he lost every penny he
\nhad. <\/p>\n

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\nHe was more destitute than the
\npoorest brother that he knew. <\/p>\n

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\nYou know who showed him the most
\nkindness? <\/p>\n

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\nThe people who had nothing.
\nNothing at all. <\/p>\n

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\nThey took what little food they
\nhad, what little clothing they <\/p>\n

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\nhad, and they shared it with
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\nThey gave him a place to stay in
\ntheir little tiny apartments, <\/p>\n

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\nand they slept on the floor and
\nput him in the bed. <\/p>\n

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\nAnd that brother realized I had
\nnothing when I had everything, <\/p>\n

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\nand now that I have nothing.
\nI have everything because now I <\/p>\n

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\nknow what my faith is.
\nNow I I know who my brothers and<\/p>\n

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\nsisters are.
\nThe brother still has almost <\/p>\n

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\nnothing, but he’s happier than
\nhe ever was when he had <\/p>\n

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\neverything.
\nIsrael had everything, she <\/p>\n

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\nthought.
\nIt was hers, she thought. <\/p>\n

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\nPeople gave it to her that
\ndidn’t even exist. <\/p>\n

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\nGod takes that misunderstanding
\nand corrects it by taking <\/p>\n

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\neverything away from her.
\nNow these are the things he said<\/p>\n

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\nthat he would do to her.
\nBut she didn’t believe what he <\/p>\n

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\nwas saying.
\nShe didn’t listen to what he was<\/p>\n

158
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\nsaying, but he still tried.
\nHe still gave her that SOP. <\/p>\n

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\nHosea, go and talk to her.
\nJezreel, talk to your mother. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:19,480 –> 00:13:23,080
\nPeople, listen to me.
\nTake the SOP. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:23,680 –> 00:13:26,600
\nDo the right thing, change your
\nways. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:29,600 –> 00:13:34,320
\nAnd so God in the end, would do
\nall of these things. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:35,360 –> 00:13:39,800
\nHe would take away Israel’s
\nfeasts, festivals, sacrifices, <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:39,920 –> 00:13:43,240
\ntemple.
\nHe take away all of that because<\/p>\n

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\n00:13:43,320 –> 00:13:46,520
\nout in the lands in which she
\nwas, he was. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:47,080 –> 00:13:52,160
\nHe catapulted her.
\nHe sowed her like seed strewn <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:52,160 –> 00:13:55,440
\ninto the wind, out into foreign
\nnations. <\/p>\n

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\n00:13:56,520 –> 00:14:01,760
\nShe couldn’t worship him.
\nShe wanted to, but she couldn’t.<\/p>\n

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\n00:14:01,760 –> 00:14:05,480
\nShe couldn’t keep the feasts,
\nfestivals, fasts, any of those <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:05,480 –> 00:14:12,840
\nthings she found.
\nEverything that was of value was<\/p>\n

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\n00:14:12,840 –> 00:14:14,560
\ntaken away from her at that
\ntime. <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:16,960 –> 00:14:20,520
\nAnd so, as Brother Rodstell was
\npointing out to me, there are <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:20,520 –> 00:14:27,080
\nthree interesting uses or places
\nand contexts that the word <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:27,080 –> 00:14:31,480
\ntherefore is used something,
\nsomething therefore, and then <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:31,480 –> 00:14:35,480
\nsomething else.
\nThe first one then or one of <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:35,480 –> 00:14:44,120
\nthem is in verse.
\nSix therefore, behold, I will <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:44,120 –> 00:14:47,000
\nhedge up thy way.
\nSo, because she has these <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:47,000 –> 00:14:52,840
\nattitudes, my me, mine, and my
\nlovers, the idols that I worship<\/p>\n

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\n00:14:52,840 –> 00:14:55,680
\ngave this stuff to me.
\nTherefore I’m going to put a <\/p>\n

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\n00:14:55,680 –> 00:14:59,840
\nhedge between them and their
\nability to worship these things.<\/p>\n

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\n00:15:01,680 –> 00:15:03,920
\nBut she wouldn’t have anything
\nto do with that hedge. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:04,440 –> 00:15:07,640
\nShe found a way around it.
\nAnd then in verse 9. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:08,960 –> 00:15:13,640
\nVerse nine, he talks about.
\nTherefore, because of the <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:13,640 –> 00:15:16,840
\nattitudes I’m going to take
\naway, I’ll take those things <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:16,840 –> 00:15:20,560
\naway, but it still doesn’t have
\nthe desired effect. <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:22,320 –> 00:15:25,280
\nAnd then I put it to you.
\nThe real heart of God comes out <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:26,000 –> 00:15:29,640
\nunderneath the discipline,
\nunderneath the correction, <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:30,400 –> 00:15:35,680
\nunderneath the terror and
\ntragedy comes the love that is <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:35,680 –> 00:15:40,640
\nunderneath all of that.
\nAnd he says in verse 14, <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:40,640 –> 00:15:46,680
\nTherefore the third.
\nTherefore, behold, I will appeal<\/p>\n

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\n00:15:46,680 –> 00:15:52,400
\nto her, I’ll bring her into the
\nwilderness and speak tenderly to<\/p>\n

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\n00:15:52,440 –> 00:15:57,360
\nher.
\nAnd what God is saying is I’m <\/p>\n

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\n00:15:57,360 –> 00:16:02,080
\ngoing to take her back to when
\nshe was my young bride. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:04,320 –> 00:16:07,600
\nI’m going to take her back to
\nthat first little apartment that<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:07,600 –> 00:16:12,400
\nwe had, where the only furniture
\nin the place was stuff we found <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:12,920 –> 00:16:17,400
\nthrown out in front of people’s
\nhomes or that had been given to <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:17,400 –> 00:16:21,200
\nus by brothers and sisters,
\nwhere even the curtains were <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:21,200 –> 00:16:23,120
\ngiven to us by brothers and
\nsisters. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:24,000 –> 00:16:27,000
\nWhere we had old pots and pans
\nthat didn’t match up, furniture <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:27,000 –> 00:16:30,600
\ndidn’t match, but that’s where
\nwe started. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:32,080 –> 00:16:37,920
\nThat’s where our love was young.
\nAnd where was the love of Israel<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:37,920 –> 00:16:38,960
\nand Yahweh?
\nYoung. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:40,440 –> 00:16:47,040
\nAnd he brought her out of Egypt
\ninto the wilderness, and she <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:47,040 –> 00:16:51,840
\nfollowed him around through the
\nwilderness, even as she made her<\/p>\n

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\n00:16:51,840 –> 00:16:54,520
\nmistakes.
\nAnd a generation was lost. <\/p>\n

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\n00:16:54,920 –> 00:16:59,600
\nBut a generation was gained and
\nbrought, brought into the land <\/p>\n

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\nof promise.
\nBut that was their little <\/p>\n

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\napartment.
\nThat was their first time <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:07,920 –> 00:17:14,400
\ntogether as a couple.
\nGod says she won’t respond to <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:14,400 –> 00:17:19,880
\nthese other disciplines.
\nLet me take her back to when she<\/p>\n

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\n00:17:19,880 –> 00:17:26,640
\nwas my young wife and see if
\nthat will turn her around, and I<\/p>\n

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\n00:17:26,640 –> 00:17:28,520
\nwill give her her vineyards from
\nthence. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:29,280 –> 00:17:31,760
\nThe Valley of Ayko for a door of
\nhope. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:32,960 –> 00:17:36,240
\nNow, yes, he’s talking about how
\nhe’s going to deal with Israel <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:37,040 –> 00:17:40,920
\nat this time, but he’s pointing
\nforward into the future too, <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:41,360 –> 00:17:45,560
\nisn’t he?
\nHe’s pointing forward to a time <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:45,920 –> 00:17:51,840
\nwhen Israel will be saved by his
\nson Jezreel, that he’s going to <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:51,840 –> 00:17:55,640
\nsend and look at the wounds in
\nhis hands. <\/p>\n

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\n00:17:55,760 –> 00:18:00,680
\nAsk him about them.
\nAnd He will save them with His <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:00,680 –> 00:18:07,600
\nbride, that thundering army on
\nhorses together the word of God <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:07,600 –> 00:18:11,800
\nmade flesh and His bride, when
\nthey save the remnant that’s <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:11,800 –> 00:18:18,720
\nleft in Jerusalem and Israel.
\nAnd and then there will be a <\/p>\n

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\nreuniting again the valley of
\nAcor, which reminds them of <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:23,520 –> 00:18:25,880
\nAcan.
\nAnd what had happened to him and<\/p>\n

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\n00:18:25,880 –> 00:18:29,080
\nthe cursing of that man when
\nhe’d stolen the Babylonian <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:29,240 –> 00:18:33,280
\ngarment and the bars of gold and
\nall the things of this world <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:33,280 –> 00:18:35,640
\nthat he thought would give him
\nhappiness and just gave him <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:35,640 –> 00:18:41,320
\ndeath?
\nAnd that instead will be turned <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:41,320 –> 00:18:50,960
\naround and Acor will instead be
\na door of hope, open for this <\/p>\n

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\nstubborn and resistant.
\nNation, verse 19. <\/p>\n

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\n00:18:56,640 –> 00:19:00,200
\nI will betroth thee unto me
\nforever. <\/p>\n

232
\n00:19:00,200 –> 00:19:02,720
\nYeah, I will betroth thee unto
\nme. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:03,400 –> 00:19:07,480
\nWith what things, what
\nqualities, what aspects will <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:07,480 –> 00:19:11,800
\nmark that relationship?
\nIn righteousness and in <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:11,800 –> 00:19:16,680
\njudgement, and in loving
\nkindness and in mercies. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:17,120 –> 00:19:22,960
\nI will even betroth thee unto me
\nin faithfulness, and thou shalt <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:22,960 –> 00:19:26,960
\nknow Yahweh.
\nAnd so he’s he’s looking forward<\/p>\n

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\n00:19:26,960 –> 00:19:30,600
\nto a time he knows he has to
\ndiscipline this nation. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:30,960 –> 00:19:35,280
\nHe has to put them through the
\nhorror of what the Assyrians are<\/p>\n

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\n00:19:35,280 –> 00:19:38,800
\ngoing to do to them, those
\nwicked Assyrians. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:40,360 –> 00:19:47,080
\nBut he looks forward to the time
\nwhen the remnant of that people <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:47,800 –> 00:19:53,000
\nraised from the grave will be
\nunited as one people. <\/p>\n

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\n00:19:53,640 –> 00:19:59,200
\nWith Gentiles to become the
\nbride of his son and his people <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:00,120 –> 00:20:03,840
\nforever.
\nSo it goes on in this chapter, <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:04,920 –> 00:20:10,200
\nand it says in verse 23.
\nNow just look at this exquisite <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:10,240 –> 00:20:14,720
\nverse and puzzle it out, he
\nsays. <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:15,800 –> 00:20:22,840
\nAnd I will sow her unto me in
\nthe earth. <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:24,560 –> 00:20:28,120
\nAnd I will have mercy upon her
\nthat have not obtained mercy. <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:28,400 –> 00:20:32,000
\nI will say to them which were
\nnot my people, Thou art my <\/p>\n

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\n00:20:32,000 –> 00:20:36,600
\npeople, and they shall say, Thou
\nart my God. <\/p>\n

251
\n00:20:37,880 –> 00:20:44,280
\nNow now look at look, look at
\nthat wonderful little sentence. <\/p>\n

252
\n00:20:45,640 –> 00:20:50,320
\nAnd I will sow her unto me in
\nthe earth. <\/p>\n

253
\n00:20:51,160 –> 00:20:55,280
\nWell, what does that remind you
\nof, 1st Corinthians 15? <\/p>\n

254
\n00:20:56,800 –> 00:21:04,320
\nThe seed sown in the earth, the
\ndead in Christ in the earth, <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:05,360 –> 00:21:10,760
\nthat seed that is sown unto me,
\nbecause they’ll be raised and <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:10,760 –> 00:21:15,800
\nafter judgement will be God’s
\neverlasting, ever living <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:15,800 –> 00:21:21,120
\nchildren.
\nSo God is not just looking and <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:21,120 –> 00:21:25,200
\nwhat’s going to happen to Israel
\nas a nation only and what he has<\/p>\n

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\n00:21:25,200 –> 00:21:28,960
\nto put Israel through.
\nHe’s looking forward and pass <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:28,960 –> 00:21:33,480
\nthat to the fulfillment of his
\npromises, his mercies, the <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:33,480 –> 00:21:37,440
\nmercies of David.
\nHe’s looking forward to the time<\/p>\n

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\n00:21:37,440 –> 00:21:40,560
\nwhen the resurrection has
\noccurred through his son <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:40,560 –> 00:21:43,960
\nrepresented by Jezreel.
\nGo talk to your mother, the <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:43,960 –> 00:21:49,000
\nnation, when they will be raised
\nfrom the dead. <\/p>\n

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\n00:21:49,760 –> 00:21:56,360
\nThose people who were sown, he’d
\nsown them like seed amongst Jews<\/p>\n

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\n00:21:57,040 –> 00:22:00,920
\nand Gentiles to be his children
\nforever. <\/p>\n

267
\n00:22:02,640 –> 00:22:05,640
\nThat’s beautiful, that little
\nverse. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:08,200 –> 00:22:10,960
\nYou have troubles in your life
\nsometimes, brothers and sisters,<\/p>\n

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\n00:22:13,480 –> 00:22:19,760
\nand just just when you think you
\ncannot take any more, God adds <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:19,760 –> 00:22:30,000
\nanother trial on top of that.
\nThis this man, Hosea had two <\/p>\n

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\nterrible jobs.
\nHe had to preach to the nation <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:33,960 –> 00:22:35,320
\nthat didn’t want to listen to
\nhim. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:36,560 –> 00:22:39,480
\nHe had to marry a wife that
\nwould not be faithful to him. <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:40,080 –> 00:22:45,240
\nHe had to raise other people’s
\nkids, and then she left him to <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:45,240 –> 00:22:52,200
\ngo and live with somebody else.
\nNow when that happens, your <\/p>\n

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\n00:22:52,200 –> 00:23:00,360
\nheart is broken into little
\nsplintered bits. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:02,360 –> 00:23:04,480
\nYou wake up in the morning and
\nyou don’t want to wake up. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:06,520 –> 00:23:08,760
\nYou go to sleep at night and you
\ncannot sleep. <\/p>\n

279
\n00:23:11,080 –> 00:23:14,800
\nYou go to sleep exhausted.
\nYou wake up exhausted. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:16,000 –> 00:23:17,840
\nYou can barely think.
\nYou can’t work. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:19,000 –> 00:23:20,600
\nYou can barely take care of
\nyourself. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:21,880 –> 00:23:26,600
\nBut then as time goes by,
\nthere’s a a kind of healing, a <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:26,600 –> 00:23:30,320
\ntrigger, a circuit breaker that
\ngoes off in our minds. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:31,880 –> 00:23:36,440
\nYou never get over the loss of
\nthe person you love. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:37,720 –> 00:23:42,920
\nYou just slowly get used to the
\nfact that they’re not there <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:42,920 –> 00:23:45,880
\nanymore.
\nThat hole is never filled. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:46,880 –> 00:23:50,920
\nThat was them in your life, but
\nyou grow used to it. <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:56,880
\nAnd then you begin to forget the
\nsound of their voice, and <\/p>\n

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\n00:23:56,880 –> 00:23:59,120
\nsometimes you can’t remember
\nwhat they look like, except for <\/p>\n

290
\n00:23:59,120 –> 00:24:05,880
\npictures that you’ve still got.
\nNow you get to that stage, <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:05,880 –> 00:24:14,200
\nperhaps in your Hosea, and then
\nLord God Almighty says to you in<\/p>\n

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\n00:24:14,200 –> 00:24:17,600
\nHebrew this is literally,
\nliterally what it says. <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:18,480 –> 00:24:23,400
\nGo again.
\nExclamation point love <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:24,760 –> 00:24:32,200
\nexclamation, or whatever the
\nHebrew equivalent is 2 strong <\/p>\n

295
\n00:24:32,520 –> 00:24:37,200
\nordered commands.
\nGo again love. <\/p>\n

296
\n00:24:39,120 –> 00:24:42,600
\nSo what he’s telling him is it’s
\nnot over with that woman, son. <\/p>\n

297
\n00:24:45,200 –> 00:24:48,400
\nCommentators do backflips and
\nall kinds of things that they <\/p>\n

298
\n00:24:48,400 –> 00:24:53,320
\nread into a woman loved of her
\nfriend, who is the friend that <\/p>\n

299
\n00:24:53,320 –> 00:24:59,240
\nshe is loved by, and it’s Hosea.
\nHe never got over that love for <\/p>\n

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\n00:24:59,240 –> 00:25:03,160
\nhis for his wayward wife.
\nHe never stopped loving her. <\/p>\n

301
\n00:25:04,760 –> 00:25:08,040
\nHe he he was without the stress
\nof her being with him and <\/p>\n

302
\n00:25:08,040 –> 00:25:15,400
\nwandering for a while.
\nBut then God said, you have to <\/p>\n

303
\n00:25:15,400 –> 00:25:18,600
\ndo it like me.
\nGo. <\/p>\n

304
\n00:25:20,000 –> 00:25:26,880
\nContinue to love her.
\nShe is beloved of you and yet <\/p>\n

305
\n00:25:26,880 –> 00:25:31,200
\nshe is an adulteress.
\nAnd this is how you need to love<\/p>\n

306
\n00:25:31,200 –> 00:25:33,600
\nher.
\nWhat? <\/p>\n

307
\n00:25:33,600 –> 00:25:39,760
\nWhat did Christ say?
\nI want you to love each other as<\/p>\n

308
\n00:25:39,880 –> 00:25:44,480
\nI love you.
\nAnd that was a new commandment. <\/p>\n

309
\n00:25:44,480 –> 00:25:47,560
\nWell, how was it new?
\nHow was it new that they would <\/p>\n

310
\n00:25:47,560 –> 00:25:50,480
\nlove each other?
\nWell, what was new was the <\/p>\n

311
\n00:25:50,480 –> 00:25:55,080
\nstandard they had.
\nThey had to love each other the <\/p>\n

312
\n00:25:55,080 –> 00:26:00,720
\nway Christ loved them.
\nAnd they knew what Christ had to<\/p>\n

313
\n00:26:00,720 –> 00:26:04,120
\nlook past to love them, and he
\nstill loved all of them. <\/p>\n

314
\n00:26:05,400 –> 00:26:08,280
\nAnd God essentially is saying
\nthe same thing to Hosea. <\/p>\n

315
\n00:26:09,640 –> 00:26:14,240
\nI want you to love her like I
\nlove Israel. <\/p>\n

316
\n00:26:17,040 –> 00:26:23,160
\nThat’s what God is saying to
\nhim, according to the love of <\/p>\n

317
\n00:26:23,160 –> 00:26:28,840
\nthe Lord toward the children of
\nIsrael now. <\/p>\n

318
\n00:26:28,840 –> 00:26:33,320
\nSo he goes out to find his wife,
\nand he knows where she is. <\/p>\n

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\n00:26:34,960 –> 00:26:36,520
\nAnd I want you to just imagine
\nthis. <\/p>\n

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\n00:26:38,400 –> 00:26:43,240
\nHe marries beautiful, wayward
\nyoung Comer. <\/p>\n

321
\n00:26:45,280 –> 00:26:49,080
\nAt first she’s faithful to him
\nlike Israel was faithful to God,<\/p>\n

322
\n00:26:49,440 –> 00:26:55,600
\nas Jeremiah chapter 2 says.
\nBut then her eye wandered and <\/p>\n

323
\n00:26:55,600 –> 00:26:59,480
\nshe thought she could do better,
\nand she spurned him and <\/p>\n

324
\n00:27:00,320 –> 00:27:02,880
\nundervalued who he was and what
\nhe was to her. <\/p>\n

325
\n00:27:03,720 –> 00:27:06,840
\nAnd she went out with one man
\nand another man and another man,<\/p>\n

326
\n00:27:07,400 –> 00:27:09,840
\nand of course she was beautiful,
\nso that could happen. <\/p>\n

327
\n00:27:09,840 –> 00:27:13,160
\nAnd continue until as time went
\nby. <\/p>\n

328
\n00:27:13,160 –> 00:27:17,480
\nShe wasn’t beautiful anymore.
\nShe wasn’t young anymore. <\/p>\n

329
\n00:27:19,040 –> 00:27:20,640
\nNow, now look what has to
\nhappen. <\/p>\n

330
\n00:27:23,600 –> 00:27:32,000
\nI bought her to me for 15 pieces
\nof silver and a Homer of barley,<\/p>\n

331
\n00:27:33,800 –> 00:27:41,000
\nand a half Homer of barley.
\nNow why this mixture of silver <\/p>\n

332
\n00:27:42,480 –> 00:27:46,360
\nand and and a Homer and half of
\nbarley? <\/p>\n

333
\n00:27:48,640 –> 00:27:49,880
\nNow of course we might read into
\nit. <\/p>\n

334
\n00:27:49,880 –> 00:27:53,000
\nSilver having to do with
\nredemption and the sacrifice of <\/p>\n

335
\n00:27:53,000 –> 00:27:56,800
\nthe Lord Jesus Christ.
\nThe barley once again the grain <\/p>\n

336
\n00:27:56,800 –> 00:28:01,000
\noffering, reminding us of the
\nbread that’s in the bread and <\/p>\n

337
\n00:28:01,000 –> 00:28:03,080
\nwine that represents Christ
\nagain. <\/p>\n

338
\n00:28:03,080 –> 00:28:07,240
\nAnd of course it sews things
\ntogether when Zama pointed out <\/p>\n

339
\n00:28:07,240 –> 00:28:11,840
\nthat when you add up according
\nto what a Homer of barley was <\/p>\n

340
\n00:28:11,840 –> 00:28:16,400
\nvalued at in the days of the
\nkings during whose time Hosea <\/p>\n

341
\n00:28:16,400 –> 00:28:20,440
\nwas writing, this would add up
\nto 30 pieces of silver, the <\/p>\n

342
\n00:28:20,760 –> 00:28:29,840
\nprice of a slave.
\nWhy did he give barley and <\/p>\n

343
\n00:28:29,840 –> 00:28:32,960
\nsilver?
\nBecause he gave everything he <\/p>\n

344
\n00:28:32,960 –> 00:28:36,080
\nhad.
\nHe had nothing else to give. <\/p>\n

345
\n00:28:37,640 –> 00:28:40,280
\nHe didn’t have it all in silver
\nbecause he didn’t have that kind<\/p>\n

346
\n00:28:40,280 –> 00:28:45,080
\nof money.
\nSo he he supplemented what he <\/p>\n

347
\n00:28:45,080 –> 00:28:48,240
\nhad, all the silver.
\nHe had everything he had to give<\/p>\n

348
\n00:28:49,960 –> 00:28:58,320
\nwith all the food he had so that
\nhe could redeem his beloved <\/p>\n

349
\n00:28:58,680 –> 00:29:05,240
\nsinful wife.
\nDoes that remind you of another <\/p>\n

350
\n00:29:05,240 –> 00:29:09,080
\nwoman?
\nOf course it does. <\/p>\n

351
\n00:29:10,120 –> 00:29:14,320
\nShe’s sitting in every chair in
\nthis room right now. <\/p>\n

352
\n00:29:16,720 –> 00:29:21,920
\nThe woman that a man gave
\neverything he had for that you <\/p>\n

353
\n00:29:21,920 –> 00:29:25,760
\nmight sit in this room and
\nlisten to these words. <\/p>\n

354
\n00:29:27,720 –> 00:29:35,680
\nAnd so he gives everything and
\nhe takes Gomer is broken, <\/p>\n

355
\n00:29:36,560 –> 00:29:47,000
\nchastened, demoralized, depleted
\nwoman who is now a slave in <\/p>\n

356
\n00:29:47,000 –> 00:29:53,840
\nsomebody’s house property,
\nsomeone of no value, mistreated <\/p>\n

357
\n00:29:53,840 –> 00:29:58,360
\nand abused, and he takes her
\nback home. <\/p>\n

358
\n00:30:01,040 –> 00:30:06,280
\nWould you do that for your wife?
\nYes, you would. <\/p>\n

359
\n00:30:07,800 –> 00:30:11,120
\nI know you think you wouldn’t.
\nI know you would be thinking of <\/p>\n

360
\n00:30:11,120 –> 00:30:15,040
\nall that she did to hurt you and
\nsaid about you and said against <\/p>\n

361
\n00:30:15,040 –> 00:30:18,720
\nyou did to you.
\nHow she blackened your <\/p>\n

362
\n00:30:18,720 –> 00:30:23,400
\nreputation, ruined your name,
\nhow she hurt you to the core. <\/p>\n

363
\n00:30:24,320 –> 00:30:26,280
\nHow many years it took you to
\nget over it. <\/p>\n

364
\n00:30:28,360 –> 00:30:33,520
\nBut when you see her in the
\ncondition she is in, and you <\/p>\n

365
\n00:30:33,520 –> 00:30:39,080
\nremember the love you have for
\nher, how could you do otherwise <\/p>\n

366
\n00:30:40,520 –> 00:30:47,920
\nthan what Hosea did here for
\nGomer and what God did for <\/p>\n

367
\n00:30:47,920 –> 00:30:57,400
\nIsrael, and what Christ did for
\nyou, How could you do otherwise?<\/p>\n

368
\n00:30:59,480 –> 00:31:04,800
\nNow are you willing to do that
\nfor the brother or sister that <\/p>\n

369
\n00:31:04,800 –> 00:31:06,920
\nfails beside you in the
\necclesia? <\/p>\n

370
\n00:31:08,720 –> 00:31:15,920
\nAnd the full shame of the bad
\ndecisions or actions they’ve <\/p>\n

371
\n00:31:15,920 –> 00:31:21,400
\nbeen engaged in is out there for
\neveryone to see? <\/p>\n

372
\n00:31:22,600 –> 00:31:27,080
\nWould you do that for them?
\nWould you do that for your child<\/p>\n

373
\n00:31:27,080 –> 00:31:29,000
\nthat has bitterly disappointed
\nyou? <\/p>\n

374
\n00:31:32,840 –> 00:31:35,200
\nFor your brother that you’re
\nrelated to? <\/p>\n

375
\n00:31:37,120 –> 00:31:45,040
\nFor, for your aunt, your uncle
\nriddled with disease, whose life<\/p>\n

376
\n00:31:45,040 –> 00:31:49,520
\nhas fallen apart into drugs and
\nalcohol and all kinds of <\/p>\n

377
\n00:31:49,520 –> 00:31:51,240
\ndegradation?
\nWould you do that for them? <\/p>\n

378
\n00:31:54,400 –> 00:31:57,280
\nYou see, we’re all fine
\nupstanding, well dressed <\/p>\n

379
\n00:31:58,200 –> 00:32:03,400
\nbrothers and sisters in Christ.
\nBut every one of these suit <\/p>\n

380
\n00:32:03,400 –> 00:32:14,680
\njackets covers a broken person,
\nbroken because of sin, broken <\/p>\n

381
\n00:32:14,680 –> 00:32:19,560
\nbecause of all the folly and
\nfrailty that we carry about in <\/p>\n

382
\n00:32:19,560 –> 00:32:23,320
\nourselves, in our hearts, in our
\nminds. <\/p>\n

383
\n00:32:25,320 –> 00:32:30,760
\nAnd sometimes when someone’s
\nbrokenness becomes public, we <\/p>\n

384
\n00:32:30,760 –> 00:32:35,280
\npull back from them, so none of
\nit splashes up unto us. <\/p>\n

385
\n00:32:36,400 –> 00:32:42,520
\nBut that’s our flesh and blood.
\nIsaiah 58 talks about the fact <\/p>\n

386
\n00:32:42,520 –> 00:32:48,520
\nthat we cannot hide ourselves
\nfrom our own flesh and blood. <\/p>\n

387
\n00:32:49,440 –> 00:32:52,000
\nWhen the leper came up to Christ
\nand said, if you will, you can <\/p>\n

388
\n00:32:52,000 –> 00:32:55,800
\nmake me clean, he didn’t step
\nback and say yes, stand back a <\/p>\n

389
\n00:32:55,800 –> 00:32:56,760
\nbig will you?
\nYes. <\/p>\n

390
\n00:32:56,960 –> 00:33:00,800
\nBe clean.
\nHe put his hand on him and by <\/p>\n

391
\n00:33:00,800 –> 00:33:07,520
\nevery tradition and social norm
\nof Israeli life, rendered <\/p>\n

392
\n00:33:07,520 –> 00:33:10,040
\nhimself utterly unclean by
\ntouching that man. <\/p>\n

393
\n00:33:10,240 –> 00:33:18,640
\nBut he touched him so that he
\ncould show you, you’re connected<\/p>\n

394
\n00:33:18,640 –> 00:33:22,120
\nto me.
\nWhat you have on you that <\/p>\n

395
\n00:33:22,160 –> 00:33:29,840
\neveryone can see on the outside,
\nI have in the nature I bear, and<\/p>\n

396
\n00:33:29,840 –> 00:33:34,960
\nI do want to make you clean, and
\nI do want to treat you with <\/p>\n

397
\n00:33:35,040 –> 00:33:39,640
\nhonor and respect.
\nSo that man picked up his <\/p>\n

398
\n00:33:39,880 –> 00:33:47,480
\nbroken, pitiable wife in his
\narms, and he took her home. <\/p>\n

399
\n00:33:49,040 –> 00:33:54,640
\nAnd he said to her when he took
\nher home, Thou shalt abide for <\/p>\n

400
\n00:33:54,640 –> 00:33:59,040
\nme many days.
\nThou shalt not play the harlot. <\/p>\n

401
\n00:34:00,320 –> 00:34:06,680
\nThou shalt not be another man’s,
\nAnd so will I also be for thee. <\/p>\n

402
\n00:34:07,880 –> 00:34:12,880
\nFor the children of Israel shall
\nabide many days without a king, <\/p>\n

403
\n00:34:13,760 –> 00:34:17,920
\nwithout a Prince, without a
\nsacrifice, without an image, <\/p>\n

404
\n00:34:18,239 –> 00:34:20,800
\nwithout an ephod, without
\nTerrapin. <\/p>\n

405
\n00:34:21,040 –> 00:34:24,679
\nAnd afterwards shall the
\nchildren of Israel return and <\/p>\n

406
\n00:34:24,679 –> 00:34:28,639
\nseek the Lord their God and
\nDavid their king, and shall fear<\/p>\n

407
\n00:34:28,639 –> 00:34:34,400
\nthe Lord and his goodness in the
\nlatter days. <\/p>\n

408
\n00:34:35,760 –> 00:34:42,000
\nAnd so the this this picture is
\nnot just about a man and what <\/p>\n

409
\n00:34:42,000 –> 00:34:46,159
\nGod put him through, so he could
\nunderstand what it’s like to <\/p>\n

410
\n00:34:46,159 –> 00:34:49,080
\nthink like God, to feel like
\nGod. <\/p>\n

411
\n00:34:49,639 –> 00:34:51,679
\nAnd you?
\nSome commentators say you know <\/p>\n

412
\n00:34:51,679 –> 00:34:55,719
\nthis this business about these
\nfeelings God is expressing. <\/p>\n

413
\n00:34:56,080 –> 00:34:58,640
\nWell, that’s not really what God
\nfeels. <\/p>\n

414
\n00:34:58,960 –> 00:35:02,120
\nGod is trying to explain his
\nemotions and terms that we <\/p>\n

415
\n00:35:02,560 –> 00:35:06,520
\nordinary humans can understand.
\nAnd that’s rubbish. <\/p>\n

416
\n00:35:07,200 –> 00:35:09,480
\nWhere do you think those
\nfeelings and us came from? <\/p>\n

417
\n00:35:10,320 –> 00:35:11,880
\nMums.
\nWhere do you think your motherly<\/p>\n

418
\n00:35:11,880 –> 00:35:15,000
\nfeelings came from?
\nFrom God? <\/p>\n

419
\n00:35:16,040 –> 00:35:20,000
\nFrom God?
\nAll of these feelings hurt. <\/p>\n

420
\n00:35:20,400 –> 00:35:22,920
\nLove.
\nSadness. <\/p>\n

421
\n00:35:23,160 –> 00:35:31,880
\nDisappointment, elation, joy.
\nThese feelings come from God and<\/p>\n

422
\n00:35:31,920 –> 00:35:38,040
\nare in us too.
\nSo God did feel hurt and <\/p>\n

423
\n00:35:38,040 –> 00:35:42,560
\ndisappointment.
\nGod did feel a deep sense of <\/p>\n

424
\n00:35:42,560 –> 00:35:46,000
\nloss.
\nWith Israel, it’s not just that <\/p>\n

425
\n00:35:46,000 –> 00:35:51,120
\nHe’s talking in language so we
\nmortals can understand, but <\/p>\n

426
\n00:35:51,120 –> 00:35:54,400
\nthat’s not really how he feels.
\nThat is exactly what he feels. <\/p>\n

427
\n00:35:55,320 –> 00:36:06,240
\nSo that means when God saw his
\nchild, his baby, pinned to that <\/p>\n

428
\n00:36:06,240 –> 00:36:14,520
\ncross, he felt everything a
\nfather would feel everything. <\/p>\n

429
\n00:36:15,560 –> 00:36:21,520
\nEvery pang his child felt, he
\nfelt it too. <\/p>\n

430
\n00:36:22,720 –> 00:36:28,640
\nSo like Abraham and Isaac, they
\ntoo went along together. <\/p>\n

431
\n00:36:29,640 –> 00:36:36,560
\nAnd when that great darkness
\nunfolded around that scene on <\/p>\n

432
\n00:36:36,560 –> 00:36:43,880
\nGolgotha, it was God coming
\ndown, some presence representing<\/p>\n

433
\n00:36:43,880 –> 00:36:49,280
\nhim there with his child.
\nJust like that same cloud had <\/p>\n

434
\n00:36:49,280 –> 00:36:54,480
\ncome down upon Mount Sinai, just
\nlike that same cloud had come <\/p>\n

435
\n00:36:54,480 –> 00:36:57,840
\ndown on the Mount of
\nTransfiguration, just like that <\/p>\n

436
\n00:36:57,840 –> 00:37:03,240
\nsame cloud had filled up the
\ntemple and pushed the priests <\/p>\n

437
\n00:37:03,280 –> 00:37:08,840
\nout because of its presence.
\nHe was right there with his <\/p>\n

438
\n00:37:08,840 –> 00:37:19,280
\nchild, feeling every pang with
\nhis child, and that’s how he is <\/p>\n

439
\n00:37:19,280 –> 00:37:26,160
\nwith you.
\nSo I know brother or sister, you<\/p>\n

440
\n00:37:26,160 –> 00:37:30,400
\nhave a hard life.
\nYou have to live, and I <\/p>\n

441
\n00:37:30,400 –> 00:37:34,360
\nunderstand the loneliness that
\ngoes with that life. <\/p>\n

442
\n00:37:36,920 –> 00:37:40,480
\nI understand those long, long
\nevenings. <\/p>\n

443
\n00:37:42,280 –> 00:37:45,040
\nJust know that you are not
\nalone. <\/p>\n

444
\n00:37:46,240 –> 00:37:53,720
\nThat your God is with you, that
\nyour God cares so much for you <\/p>\n

445
\n00:37:54,640 –> 00:37:58,240
\nand what you feel and what
\nyou’re going through, That he <\/p>\n

446
\n00:37:58,240 –> 00:38:03,720
\nwill never let you go.
\nHe’s always there with you. <\/p>\n

447
\n00:38:06,000 –> 00:38:11,520
\nChapter four, he goes through
\nall the evils of the nation, he <\/p>\n

448
\n00:38:11,520 –> 00:38:14,960
\nsays in verse six.
\nMy people are destroyed. <\/p>\n

449
\n00:38:14,960 –> 00:38:19,720
\nFor what?
\nFor lack of knowledge, because <\/p>\n

450
\n00:38:19,720 –> 00:38:25,440
\nthou hast rejected knowledge, I
\nwill also reject thee, that thou<\/p>\n

451
\n00:38:25,440 –> 00:38:29,040
\nshalt be no priest to me.
\nSo this is like the words in <\/p>\n

452
\n00:38:29,040 –> 00:38:34,960
\nMalachi, where God is rebuking
\nthe priests, and they were to be<\/p>\n

453
\n00:38:34,960 –> 00:38:40,320
\nthe sources of knowledge and
\nteaching in the nation. <\/p>\n

454
\n00:38:40,600 –> 00:38:44,440
\nThe prophets came and went.
\nThe priests were supposed to <\/p>\n

455
\n00:38:44,520 –> 00:38:50,160
\nalways be there, teaching,
\nleading, reaching into the <\/p>\n

456
\n00:38:50,160 –> 00:38:52,360
\nnation, showing them out of the
\nlaw. <\/p>\n

457
\n00:38:52,360 –> 00:38:57,040
\nAnd you know, brethren, that’s
\nour job today. <\/p>\n

458
\n00:38:57,480 –> 00:39:00,960
\nAnd sisters who teach Sunday
\nschool, that’s your job with the<\/p>\n

459
\n00:39:00,960 –> 00:39:05,480
\nkids.
\nThis is part of what Psalm 78 <\/p>\n

460
\n00:39:05,480 –> 00:39:12,840
\ndescribes, generation, passing
\nthings on to generations after <\/p>\n

461
\n00:39:12,840 –> 00:39:15,240
\nthem.
\nAnd if if we don’t have the word<\/p>\n

462
\n00:39:15,240 –> 00:39:19,240
\nof God right in the center of
\necclesial life and it’s so easy <\/p>\n

463
\n00:39:19,240 –> 00:39:23,200
\nfor it to be pushed off, you
\njust just think the ecclesia <\/p>\n

464
\n00:39:23,200 –> 00:39:28,160
\ngets together, everybody is
\nplaying games, having fun, and <\/p>\n

465
\n00:39:28,160 –> 00:39:30,080
\nthe word of God is pushed off to
\nthe side. <\/p>\n

466
\n00:39:30,080 –> 00:39:33,720
\nMay or may not even be read.
\nPerhaps if it’s read it’s just a<\/p>\n

467
\n00:39:33,720 –> 00:39:36,360
\nshort passage no comments.
\nAnd on to the games. <\/p>\n

468
\n00:39:37,280 –> 00:39:42,760
\nWell, the the the problem is
\nthat’s appealing to flesh if the<\/p>\n

469
\n00:39:42,760 –> 00:39:44,920
\nword of God is not kept in the
\ncenter. <\/p>\n

470
\n00:39:46,680 –> 00:39:51,920
\nAnd brothers, you might listen
\nto speakers travelling through <\/p>\n

471
\n00:39:52,520 –> 00:39:57,800
\nlike, oh, it’s so easy for that
\nbrother to get up there and say <\/p>\n

472
\n00:39:57,800 –> 00:40:00,800
\nthis or that.
\nI couldn’t do that. <\/p>\n

473
\n00:40:02,160 –> 00:40:06,280
\nYou are making for yourself, The
\nbiggest cop out an excuse <\/p>\n

474
\n00:40:06,280 –> 00:40:13,040
\nimaginable.
\nThousands of hours of Labor. <\/p>\n

475
\n00:40:13,920 –> 00:40:20,600
\nAre poured by speakers into the
\nspeaking that they do up till <\/p>\n

476
\n00:40:20,600 –> 00:40:24,560
\n2:00 in the morning.
\nYour eyes can barely stay open. <\/p>\n

477
\n00:40:25,160 –> 00:40:28,600
\nYou just have to get through a
\nfew more words in the passage to<\/p>\n

478
\n00:40:28,600 –> 00:40:32,920
\nunderstand what is this saying?
\nWhat does it mean? <\/p>\n

479
\n00:40:33,600 –> 00:40:36,440
\nHow can I bring it out to my
\nbrothers and sisters? <\/p>\n

480
\n00:40:37,240 –> 00:40:42,840
\nThe labour, the backbreaking
\nlabour that goes into study? <\/p>\n

481
\n00:40:43,800 –> 00:40:47,760
\nIt’s not easy for anyone what
\nwhat you’re saying effectively <\/p>\n

482
\n00:40:47,760 –> 00:40:51,560
\nin that cop out is this, oh,
\nstudy is easy for some kinds of <\/p>\n

483
\n00:40:51,560 –> 00:40:54,360
\nflesh.
\nAre you crazy or something? <\/p>\n

484
\n00:40:54,680 –> 00:40:57,840
\nCrazy, by the way, is not a
\ndiagnostic term that clinicians <\/p>\n

485
\n00:40:57,840 –> 00:41:00,240
\nuse today.
\nThey don’t say, well, actually <\/p>\n

486
\n00:41:00,240 –> 00:41:03,640
\nyour mother is crazy.
\nThey don’t use that term. <\/p>\n

487
\n00:41:04,120 –> 00:41:07,640
\nBut are you crazy that you think
\nthat we just throw it together <\/p>\n

488
\n00:41:07,640 –> 00:41:10,880
\nbecause we’re talented?
\nThere’s no such thing. <\/p>\n

489
\n00:41:11,720 –> 00:41:16,040
\nIt’s all work.
\nSo put in the work. <\/p>\n

490
\n00:41:16,920 –> 00:41:18,880
\nThe priests weren’t putting in
\nthe work. <\/p>\n

491
\n00:41:19,560 –> 00:41:23,120
\nThe truth was lost for lack of
\nknowledge. <\/p>\n

492
\n00:41:23,800 –> 00:41:28,760
\nThe Ecclesia was falling apart,
\nperishing without anchor this <\/p>\n

493
\n00:41:28,760 –> 00:41:32,040
\ndirection, that direction and
\naway and away from God. <\/p>\n

494
\n00:41:33,640 –> 00:41:35,400
\nAnd don’t think it couldn’t
\nhappen to you. <\/p>\n

495
\n00:41:37,200 –> 00:41:39,120
\nDon’t think it couldn’t happen
\nto your Ecclesia. <\/p>\n

496
\n00:41:40,120 –> 00:41:46,440
\nSo this is an excitation to us.
\nThat’s for us to be able to look<\/p>\n

497
\n00:41:46,440 –> 00:41:52,040
\nat and learn from.
\nAnd then chapter 5 hear this. <\/p>\n

498
\n00:41:52,040 –> 00:41:57,880
\nSo you priests hack in the House
\nof Israel, O House of the King <\/p>\n

499
\n00:41:57,880 –> 00:42:05,000
\ngave ear, he says, for judgment
\nis towards you because you have <\/p>\n

500
\n00:42:05,000 –> 00:42:10,160
\nbeen a a snare on this path and
\na net spread upon table. <\/p>\n

501
\n00:42:10,880 –> 00:42:14,080
\nNow he’s using very famous
\nlocations in Jewish history and <\/p>\n

502
\n00:42:14,080 –> 00:42:20,360
\nhe’s saying instead of you being
\nthe kind of people who in those <\/p>\n

503
\n00:42:20,360 –> 00:42:25,080
\nhistorical circumstances were
\nheroes of the nation and helped <\/p>\n

504
\n00:42:25,080 –> 00:42:30,240
\nto save the nation who trusted
\nin God, you’re spreading a net <\/p>\n

505
\n00:42:31,320 –> 00:42:36,280
\nto trap your people like birds
\nand to kill them, he says in <\/p>\n

506
\n00:42:36,280 –> 00:42:42,080
\nverse three.
\nI know Ephraim, and Israel is <\/p>\n

507
\n00:42:42,080 –> 00:42:45,440
\nnot hid for me.
\nAnd so brother, that’s that’s a <\/p>\n

508
\n00:42:45,440 –> 00:42:49,840
\nmessage to you and me, brothers
\nand sisters, God knows us. <\/p>\n

509
\n00:42:50,680 –> 00:42:54,920
\nWe might pretend to be one
\nperson to our people at large, <\/p>\n

510
\n00:42:55,320 –> 00:42:57,560
\nbut inside with somebody
\ncompletely different. <\/p>\n

511
\n00:42:59,600 –> 00:43:02,560
\nAnd what God is saying is you
\ncan’t pretend with me. <\/p>\n

512
\n00:43:03,480 –> 00:43:05,440
\nYou can’t make like you’re
\nsomebody you’re not. <\/p>\n

513
\n00:43:05,440 –> 00:43:10,000
\nI know you.
\nI know who you are, with <\/p>\n

514
\n00:43:10,000 –> 00:43:12,840
\neverything that’s good and bad
\ngoing on inside of you. <\/p>\n

515
\n00:43:13,480 –> 00:43:16,360
\nAnd I still love you.
\nAnd I still love you. <\/p>\n

516
\n00:43:17,920 –> 00:43:21,840
\nAnd so God talks about the
\nrebuke He even says in verse 5 <\/p>\n

517
\n00:43:22,560 –> 00:43:26,200
\nJudah also shall stumble with
\nthem. <\/p>\n

518
\n00:43:26,920 –> 00:43:32,160
\nSomething about the mentality of
\nprosperous, sinful, heedless, <\/p>\n

519
\n00:43:32,280 –> 00:43:36,320
\nstubborn Israel affected Judah
\nas time went by. <\/p>\n

520
\n00:43:37,440 –> 00:43:39,680
\nWe want to be prosperous like
\nJudah too. <\/p>\n

521
\n00:43:40,560 –> 00:43:44,360
\nMaybe what they worship, maybe
\nthe way they live is OK. <\/p>\n

522
\n00:43:44,640 –> 00:43:48,920
\nMaybe if we’re more like them
\nwe’ll be as well off as them. <\/p>\n

523
\n00:43:49,800 –> 00:43:52,240
\nAnd Judah started to slip and
\nslide. <\/p>\n

524
\n00:43:52,640 –> 00:43:56,640
\nAnd God is saying, look, even
\nJudah is going to stumble <\/p>\n

525
\n00:43:56,880 –> 00:43:58,560
\nbecause of you people.
\nVerse 12. <\/p>\n

526
\n00:43:59,080 –> 00:44:03,640
\nTherefore will I be unto Ephraim
\nas a moth into the House of <\/p>\n

527
\n00:44:03,640 –> 00:44:05,560
\nJudah.
\nAs rottenness. <\/p>\n

528
\n00:44:05,960 –> 00:44:08,400
\nOf course.
\nThat ties up with James, doesn’t<\/p>\n

529
\n00:44:08,400 –> 00:44:11,320
\nit?
\nYou’re moth eaten gold and <\/p>\n

530
\n00:44:11,320 –> 00:44:15,080
\nsilver.
\nAnd what he’s saying is this. <\/p>\n

531
\n00:44:15,240 –> 00:44:18,080
\nIt’s the story of that brother I
\ntold you who lost everything. <\/p>\n

532
\n00:44:18,960 –> 00:44:20,080
\nHe says.
\nI’m going to take everything <\/p>\n

533
\n00:44:20,080 –> 00:44:25,840
\naway from you now.
\nFirst Corinthians, First <\/p>\n

534
\n00:44:25,840 –> 00:44:29,600
\nCorinthians 14.
\nLet’s go there for a minute. <\/p>\n

535
\n00:44:30,160 –> 00:44:32,960
\nYou are so tired this evening,
\nbrothers and sisters. <\/p>\n

536
\n00:44:34,560 –> 00:44:37,560
\nI’m standing here and looking at
\nyou, and you look terrible. <\/p>\n

537
\n00:44:41,680 –> 00:44:43,680
\nSee, now you’re up a little bit
\nmore, right? <\/p>\n

538
\n00:44:45,200 –> 00:44:51,080
\nOK, so let’s see if I can find
\nit not just by memory, but <\/p>\n

539
\n00:44:51,080 –> 00:44:53,040
\nactually find the passage I’m
\nlooking for. <\/p>\n

540
\n00:44:53,800 –> 00:44:55,560
\nMight have to do a little bit of
\ndigging around. <\/p>\n

541
\n00:44:55,560 –> 00:45:01,720
\nStill, just bear with me here.
\nSee if I can find that passage. <\/p>\n

542
\n00:45:01,920 –> 00:45:04,800
\nThere it is.
\nOK, First Corinthians Chapter <\/p>\n

543
\n00:45:05,320 –> 00:45:09,520
\n11.
\nAnd let’s end with this, shall <\/p>\n

544
\n00:45:09,520 –> 00:45:13,160
\nwe?
\nSo that you can just rest a <\/p>\n

545
\n00:45:13,160 –> 00:45:15,440
\nlittle.
\nI know it’s been a long day. <\/p>\n

546
\n00:45:17,040 –> 00:45:21,360
\nSo, First Corinthians Chapter
\n11, verse 31. <\/p>\n

547
\n00:45:22,680 –> 00:45:24,840
\nThere are three forms of
\njudgement. <\/p>\n

548
\n00:45:25,200 –> 00:45:32,120
\nOK, if we would judge ourselves,
\nwe should not be judged. <\/p>\n

549
\n00:45:34,400 –> 00:45:39,200
\nSo the rebuke of the word of God
\nis not to make us feel down. <\/p>\n

550
\n00:45:39,720 –> 00:45:44,800
\nIt’s to give us the incentive to
\nchange, to look at ourselves, <\/p>\n

551
\n00:45:45,160 –> 00:45:48,320
\njudge ourselves and say, look, I
\nI can’t be like this anymore. <\/p>\n

552
\n00:45:49,000 –> 00:45:51,480
\nI can’t do things this way or
\nthat way anymore. <\/p>\n

553
\n00:45:51,480 –> 00:45:56,680
\nI have to change that, right?
\nSo if we would judge ourselves, <\/p>\n

554
\n00:45:57,560 –> 00:45:59,680
\nthen God is not going to have to
\njudge us. <\/p>\n

555
\n00:45:59,680 –> 00:46:03,760
\nAnd what judgement is that?
\nIt’s the correction. <\/p>\n

556
\n00:46:04,120 –> 00:46:08,800
\nIt’s the the experiences.
\nWe go through Indiana, this life<\/p>\n

557
\n00:46:09,600 –> 00:46:18,560
\nwhere God takes who we are and
\nconfronts us with painful and <\/p>\n

558
\n00:46:18,600 –> 00:46:23,640
\ndifficult circumstances.
\nThat’s that’s what the second <\/p>\n

559
\n00:46:23,640 –> 00:46:26,280
\njudgment is.
\nAnd why did we receive that <\/p>\n

560
\n00:46:26,280 –> 00:46:29,680
\nsecond judgment?
\nWhy did God put Israel through <\/p>\n

561
\n00:46:29,760 –> 00:46:31,760
\nall the terrible things he put
\nher through? <\/p>\n

562
\n00:46:32,440 –> 00:46:36,040
\nSo that she wouldn’t have to
\nundergo that final judgement, <\/p>\n

563
\n00:46:36,560 –> 00:46:39,680
\nwhich is rejection at the
\njudgement seat of Christ? <\/p>\n

564
\n00:46:41,120 –> 00:46:45,520
\nSo we we have these three
\njudgements, and the first is <\/p>\n

565
\n00:46:45,840 –> 00:46:49,920
\nreading the word of God, being
\nrebuked and chastened by what it<\/p>\n

566
\n00:46:49,920 –> 00:46:52,240
\nsays.
\nAnd it’s not going to happen if <\/p>\n

567
\n00:46:52,240 –> 00:46:54,920
\nwe’re not reading it.
\nSo if we’re not doing the <\/p>\n

568
\n00:46:54,920 –> 00:46:58,960
\nreadings or reading the word of
\nGod in a systematic, continuous,<\/p>\n

569
\n00:46:59,240 –> 00:47:04,480
\ndaily way, it doesn’t have the
\nchance to work on us that way. <\/p>\n

570
\n00:47:05,440 –> 00:47:10,600
\nAnd then so what’s left then is
\ncorrection in this life through <\/p>\n

571
\n00:47:10,600 –> 00:47:15,800
\ncircumstances we go through Now,
\nwhat we have to avoid is this. <\/p>\n

572
\n00:47:18,200 –> 00:47:22,240
\nThere are many tragic
\ncircumstances that attend our <\/p>\n

573
\n00:47:22,240 –> 00:47:25,840
\nlives.
\nThat does not mean when someone <\/p>\n

574
\n00:47:26,080 –> 00:47:29,680
\ngoes through those things that
\nGod is rebuking a person or <\/p>\n

575
\n00:47:29,680 –> 00:47:35,160
\ncorrecting them.
\nIt may just be a genetic <\/p>\n

576
\n00:47:35,520 –> 00:47:41,720
\ninheritance that a person has a
\npredisposition for cancer, for <\/p>\n

577
\n00:47:41,720 –> 00:47:44,560
\ninstance.
\nWhen a person develops cancer, <\/p>\n

578
\n00:47:44,920 –> 00:47:48,040
\nis it then right for you or me
\nto say, well, God is teaching <\/p>\n

579
\n00:47:48,040 –> 00:47:50,960
\nthat person this or that, that’s
\nwhy they have cancer? <\/p>\n

580
\n00:47:50,960 –> 00:47:57,280
\nNo, no.
\nGod knows when he’s correcting <\/p>\n

581
\n00:47:57,280 –> 00:48:00,720
\npeople in particular ways.
\nBut sometimes it’s just the <\/p>\n

582
\n00:48:00,720 –> 00:48:07,280
\nexperience of human life,
\nfrailty, loss, disease, and <\/p>\n

583
\n00:48:07,280 –> 00:48:11,680
\nthese things that we we all go
\nthrough and that we all have to <\/p>\n

584
\n00:48:11,720 –> 00:48:16,080
\nendure as brothers and sisters,
\nright? <\/p>\n

585
\n00:48:17,560 –> 00:48:23,840
\nSo other times God acts
\ndirectly, does something to stop<\/p>\n

586
\n00:48:23,840 –> 00:48:30,880
\nyou from going too far, and that
\nusually involves loss or pain or<\/p>\n

587
\n00:48:30,880 –> 00:48:35,960
\nsome experience that is not easy
\nto bear up under, but it can <\/p>\n

588
\n00:48:35,960 –> 00:48:40,000
\nhave the effect of cutting you
\noff at a point where you would <\/p>\n

589
\n00:48:40,000 –> 00:48:44,360
\ngo too far.
\nBut if you still do not take <\/p>\n

590
\n00:48:44,360 –> 00:48:51,360
\nheed, well then there is the
\njudgement seat when we will be <\/p>\n

591
\n00:48:51,360 –> 00:48:54,800
\ntold so.
\nIf, brother, you, you mistreat <\/p>\n

592
\n00:48:54,800 –> 00:49:02,360
\nyour wife, you disrespect her,
\nyou make her life a life full of<\/p>\n

593
\n00:49:02,360 –> 00:49:08,320
\npain, a veil of tears, and and
\nyou read in scripture about the <\/p>\n

594
\n00:49:08,320 –> 00:49:11,760
\nway a man should behave, and now
\nwe should love his wife as his <\/p>\n

595
\n00:49:11,760 –> 00:49:14,840
\nown body.
\nAnd you don’t take heed to that,<\/p>\n

596
\n00:49:15,680 –> 00:49:17,400
\nand you continue to behave that
\nway. <\/p>\n

597
\n00:49:19,160 –> 00:49:24,320
\nYou will hear about it at the
\nJudgement seat, and that’s not <\/p>\n

598
\n00:49:24,320 –> 00:49:25,680
\nwhere you want to hear about
\nthat. <\/p>\n

599
\n00:49:27,720 –> 00:49:31,960
\nBut Israel would not listen.
\nGod loved her. <\/p>\n

600
\n00:49:33,200 –> 00:49:39,520
\nGod gave her so much.
\nGod gave her his beloved Son, <\/p>\n

601
\n00:49:40,840 –> 00:49:46,600
\nand she still put him to death.
\nBut sections of the nation <\/p>\n

602
\n00:49:47,200 –> 00:49:54,240
\nbelieved there was 5000 that
\ndidn’t bow the knee to bow the <\/p>\n

603
\n00:49:54,240 –> 00:49:59,320
\nball of tradition and the
\npriesthood and the Roman <\/p>\n

604
\n00:49:59,320 –> 00:50:03,200
\nauthority.
\nThey believed in Jesus and <\/p>\n

605
\n00:50:03,200 –> 00:50:05,040
\ncontinued as his brothers and
\nsisters. <\/p>\n

606
\n00:50:05,720 –> 00:50:12,760
\nSo here we are, the broken bits
\nand pieces of the bride of <\/p>\n

607
\n00:50:12,760 –> 00:50:17,000
\nChrist.
\nAll of us working with different<\/p>\n

608
\n00:50:17,000 –> 00:50:22,280
\nforms of trouble, addiction,
\nwrong headed notions, <\/p>\n

609
\n00:50:22,600 –> 00:50:26,040
\nstubbornnesses, difficult areas
\nto change. <\/p>\n

610
\n00:50:26,280 –> 00:50:29,200
\nEvery one of us.
\nI’ve got my things, you’ve got <\/p>\n

611
\n00:50:29,200 –> 00:50:32,120
\nyour things.
\nMany of us have certain things <\/p>\n

612
\n00:50:32,120 –> 00:50:34,720
\nin common.
\nYou know there’s a brother here <\/p>\n

613
\n00:50:34,720 –> 00:50:38,640
\nand this just it is unfortunate
\nfor you that I have so many <\/p>\n

614
\n00:50:38,640 –> 00:50:41,760
\ndistractions that run across my
\nhead while I’m speaking. <\/p>\n

615
\n00:50:42,200 –> 00:50:47,520
\nThere’s a brother in this in
\nthis room today, who was born on<\/p>\n

616
\n00:50:47,520 –> 00:50:52,640
\nthe same day of the same month,
\nof the same year that I was <\/p>\n

617
\n00:50:52,640 –> 00:50:57,080
\nborn.
\nPeter Osborne. <\/p>\n

618
\n00:50:59,080 –> 00:51:00,960
\nWe’re twins.
\nIt’s pretty sad, isn’t it? <\/p>\n

619
\n00:51:02,640 –> 00:51:08,000
\nSame day, different sides of the
\nearth and part of the same <\/p>\n

620
\n00:51:08,000 –> 00:51:12,360
\nfamily in Christ.
\nBut he’s my brother and you’re <\/p>\n

621
\n00:51:12,360 –> 00:51:15,800
\nmy brothers and my sisters, and
\nwhatever trouble we’re going <\/p>\n

622
\n00:51:15,800 –> 00:51:21,640
\nthrough, God is at work.
\nGod does love you. <\/p>\n

623
\n00:51:22,520 –> 00:51:25,560
\nThe pain in your life is not
\nevidence of the opposite. <\/p>\n

624
\n00:51:27,120 –> 00:51:32,920
\nHe loves you in that pain,
\nworking with you through it to <\/p>\n

625
\n00:51:32,920 –> 00:51:37,760
\nto to shape you into the gem
\nthat you are. <\/p>\n

626
\n00:51:39,240 –> 00:51:42,560
\nJob did not go through what Job
\nwent through because God didn’t <\/p>\n

627
\n00:51:42,560 –> 00:51:46,720
\nlove him.
\nGod absolutely loved him. <\/p>\n

628
\n00:51:47,680 –> 00:51:50,480
\nSo hold on to that.
\nThis evening when you go to <\/p>\n

629
\n00:51:50,480 –> 00:51:56,440
\nsleep, thank him for his love,
\nand thank that woman or man <\/p>\n

630
\n00:51:56,440 –> 00:51:59,000
\nbeside you for their love for
\nyou. <\/p>\n

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\n00:52:14,640 –> 00:52:16,760
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270: Dev Ramcharan – Israel’s Spiritual Adultery<\/a><\/blockquote>