Dave Pogson - Atonement - Class 4

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1. 0:04

   Words to act As an introduction, we’ll call upon our brother Dave to come forward and to continue his class for us on the Atonement. Well, good evening, brothers and sisters. You’re really in trouble tonight because I brought my Greek into Linear with me, so I’m going to bore you with all this technical stuff, OK?

2. 0:33

   All right, next class is holiday time and some of you may be at the Bible school and so on. All right, so tonight I thought we would jump forward a class and deal with the main pivotal point, the main verse that deals with the atonement, which is Romans chapter 321 onwards. OK, All right, so you’ve got to, you blokes have got to really concentrate for once in your life all night, OK? It’s this is your life, OK.

3. 1:11

   And if you can get this, you’re 20 years ahead of yourself. All right, so you young people try and get with this, but you older people know it backwards. But I think we all enjoy going through it again and again. As we pointed out, brother and sister’s brother Carter, on the last occasion I mentioned, said that the he believed the two most important scriptures on this subject was Romans. Five, and we did a bit of Romans 5 doing we had a look through that and the other one is these verses in Romans chapter 3. Now I hope Phil announced on Sunday that you’ll need a pencil.

4. 1:57

   I did all right, So just keep your pencil handy and don’t when I say cross something out and put something else there. Do it very lightly. OK, don’t do it so deep that you can’t rub it out again. OK, it’s just a method for this class to identify a couple of things. OK. So don’t put it in that deep.

5. 2:21

   You can’t rub it out, OK? And the rule that we use is not a rule that can be used universally throughout the New Testament anyway, OK? So just go back a bit and look at the proposition we put at the 1st place because we’re going to go ahead first into this proposition, OK?

6. 2:43

   Our proposition to you is a sacrifice is actually a full demonstration of certain facts and truths. Pick up demonstration. OK, That word is actually used in Romans tonight. You read it. But we didn’t read demonstration. We read declare. OK, it says to declare the righteousness of God. The word declare. They’re very poorly translated. OK?

7. 3:14

   It should be to exhibit or to demonstrate. OK, So what we’re looking at here, There’s Jamie. Thank goodness you’re here, Jamie. I knew there was something easy from the class. There he is. Look at that. Hey, he’s a top technician at Telecom. I get working these Mcgraths out very carefully. I think I’ve got them all now. There’s one mixed up with Apache. Yeah, that’s Jared, isn’t it?

8. 3:49

   Jared, you’re mixed up. Yeah, I’ve got your workout. He was at Wilson last week. Very important. It’s very hard to remember that when he and I fell, all these different faces and these young people. OK, Now my proposition to you is that what’s going on here is actually a climax of what’s been going on right through the life of Christ, OK? But it all sorts of comes to a head, OK. God was working in Christ.

9. 4:18

   And he’s demonstrating certain facts, 1 facts about man and two facts about God. Now we’ve looked at some of the facts about man. We found out where we’re coming from. From Romans chapter 5. We found out that man is a mortal being, that by man sin in the world and death by sin again.

10. 4:41

    And it passed on to all men by inheritance. We became sitting brown and we became mortal, and we’ve exacerbated that. That is, we’ve made things worse by our own conduct, OK? An actual sin we inherit, we have caused to it, but to even grow by our own conduct. So we’ve got real problems, OK? And so man has that problem.

11. 5:02

    He’s more sitting brown. He’s mortal, OK, Rightly related to death, and he can’t save himself, OK. But Christ was also he had to represent man. He had to demonstrate man’s position, but at the same time he had to manifest God and in Romans 5 had talked about we get certain disabilities from Adam, but we get certain benefits from a second Adam. Remember that?

12. 5:32

    And he was the Son of God and he was a tempted no punch yet without sin. And because of that, and because he it was obedient under the death of the cross, wherefore God has highly exalted him, Philippians chapter 2. And all sorts of benefits come from the fact that he was the sinless Son of God, Son of man. And we share the benefits of Christ’s victory over sin. I repeat, we share the disabilities of Adam. We share, you know, the blessings that came upon Jesus Christ because of his perfect obedience, because of one man’s disobedience, we suffer certain disabilities, but one man’s perfect obedience, we can share with him the benefits of that obedience.

13. 6:27

    Now that’s fundamental. The atonement, the doctrine of sharing fellowship. It’s called the word village means. Sharing so he had to two jobs to do, he had to demonstrate certain facts. He had to expose man for what he really was because we’ve got a problem and recognising just how big a sinners we are.

14. 6:52

    We’ve all got that problem. That’s a very serious problem. And that was what I was going to deal with tonight. But I want to jump forward, OK. And he had at the same time the manifest God. So his job was to expose man’s weakness and his the enormity of his transgression and how rightly related to death he was. You know, on the other hand, he had the job of manifesting the power of the divine holiness when you take it on board. And he took it on board from a very early age. So much so he’s called the Word.

15. 7:31

    Is he the Word made flesh? So when you look at this set of circumstances, you look at all this sort of things climaxy. If he was a man, yet a divine by divine inheritance and a divine education, he was God manifest. Then within him there was a conflict. There was a conflict, as it is in all of us, the conflict between the forces of weakness and the forces of strength from God.

16. 8:00

    So weakness from man, strength from God. And that conflict goes on, but it’s not only weakness from ourselves, it’s weakness from all our world and the people around about us. So Christ, representing God and at the same time representing man, had to deal with this tremendous conflict, a conflict which came to an apex here.

17. 8:24

    As he died upon the tree. So that what you’re looking at the final moment of the conflict. OK, if you’re going to choose any part of the life of Christ to represent that conflict, the best point is the final moment. The final moment represents his total life of conflict between sin and righteousness, human sin and divine righteousness, and then the purpose of God. We know God was dishonored by.

18. 8:54

    Adam. That left God’s educational method in question, all right. It was the work of Christ to demonstrate the educational effect of the Word of God upon a person capable of fully receiving it, to demonstrate its power and vindicate an honour God. So God had been dishonoured primarily God’s. Christ’s work was to honour God. And that’s why we said Christ died for God before he died for any of us.

19. 9:29

    He died to uphold the honour of God. In fact, we think we get no benefit unless we can see that, unless we can see that God’s been glorified and vindicated and seen to be right and just and fair and equitable and all these dealings both with sin and in matters of holiness. OK. It’s the absolute recognition of that, right? Recognition, acknowledgement, right? It’s called faith in his blood.

20. 10:01

    This recognition and acknowledgement of these facts lived out by Christ is called faith in his death, His blood. His faith in his blood means believing that God was vindicated. Right believing it and being educated just how sinful we are and just how righteous God is and how merciful He is in providing this belief in this.

21. 10:25

    They acknowledgement this as a basis of forgiveness. It’s an awesome concept and that constitutes the gospel. So. I’ve just put to you again the concept. There was a demonstration of the facts, and the longer you look at it, you can sit there and look at it for hours and hours. You can see thousands of details about human sin and divine holiness.

22. 10:49

    You can look at the outside and you can look at the crowd. They crucified it. You can look at humanity here, one that identified with Christ. Lord Remember Me when there come a it’s in their daily readings today. Lord, Remember Me when there come a sin to thy Kingdom, OK? He represented a group of the crowd that eventually saw his position and identified with this sinless son of God.

23. 11:13

    And because he identified with it and because he had a good knowledge of the gospel before he got into this sort of trouble, Christ said, you’ll be with me in paradise. OK, this one here said, now I should. We shouldn’t be up here if you’re the Christ. We shouldn’t be up here. This blood says, yes, we should.

24. 11:31

    He said that we shouldn’t be up here if you’re the Christ. You can’t come down from the cross and take us down too. He refused to recognise the. Fallen state of man. He refused to recognise that that’s he was receiving his due. He failed to confess. The facts. So God demonstrates the facts. We’re called upon to confess the facts. It’s called faith in His blood in Romans chapter 3. Now what I’ve just put to you is the most important concept possible.

25. 12:10

    I haven’t proved anything. I’m just putting it to you as a proposition, OK? So I’ve got a leap forward and look at Romans chapter 3. OK, we’re going to do with that tonight about how sin blinds us. It’s a very important concept you I keep quoting to you Proverbs 2813. He that confesses and forsakeeth his sin will find mercy with God. But it’s a problem with that and the problem is that our. Ability to yeah, I’d like to talk about that, but we can’t do not, OK?

26. 12:58

    We’ve got to start, get into Romans 3 in this topic of the righteousness of God, OK? So get your pencil ready. Romans is all about two methods of righteousness. That is how a man can be righteous in the sight of God the Judge. OK, so he is God, the holy and righteous judge of all the earth.

27. 13:26

    Shall not the judge of the old earth do right? God can only do what’s right. We sometimes forgive our kids wrongly. He won’t do it wrongly. He can only do things right. OK, and here is you and. I all start with Jesus Christ. OK, all right, so we have this subject called the righteousness of God, and in Romans it deals with two systems of righteousness.

28. 13:59

    All right, one was the. Jewish system, the Judaizers view of righteousness. That is how you can be righteous in God’s sight, how you can stand there and receive the OK from the judge. They had their method. There’s a method based upon plain and simple wrong doctrine. It’s amazing how a wrong doctrine produces terrible attitudes. OK, and they had some wrong doctrines, very fundamental wrong doctrines.

29. 14:32

    And the and the most fundamental of them all. You’ll find all this just by reading Philippians chapter 3. It talks about what Paul used to be like. It all boiled down to the fact that the Jews trusted in the flesh to earn salvation by keeping a set of divine rules.

30. 14:57

    So it was flesh. This is 1 the wrong method of of being pronounced righteous. This is the background of Romans all. Through. Romans. He’s arguing against this concept, so get the background boy, you won’t know why. Things are said the way they said. You won’t know why it’s there. All right, So he’s fighting this concept of the Jews, which taught the way to be righteous was to trust in the flesh, to do your best to keep a set of divine rules called the Law of Moses.

31. 15:32

    OK. And if you do that, you actually earn righteousness or acceptance. I used to think about that when I was a little kid. I used to think, oh, yeah, I did something pretty awful. But if I do a lot of good things, that will cover that. And the good things are more than the bad things.

32. 15:57

    And I don’t feel so bad about it that that’s a. And that’s exactly how they thought. They all recognized man had weakness, but they also believed man had a lot of strength. OK. And that God had created us. There’s a lot of goodness. People believe that in every church and humanists believe it today. They all recognize human beings are weak in some areas, but they believe there’s a lot of goodness in it too, OK. And what it means is the exercise of goodness. And, and if you exercise yourself in God’s set of rules, and that’ll strengthen that goodness and that and you do more acts of good than you do of evil, therefore you’ve sent the balances the right way.

33. 16:38

    You’re more righteous than you are sinful. Therefore you’re righteous. You’ve earned the position. OK, Law, law. And they had this concept expressed in Romans as law too, not the law, even though it’s referring to the law of Moses. They simply called it law. And by law they meant equity, Yeah. Can you follow what I mean by equity German?

34. 17:08

    Well, I’ll tell you, you got to work. How much an hour do you get $10? OK. So you got $10 probably get 25 in blood and been a pensioner. I get about 5. So, so that if if if you have agreed for $10 and you work for 10 hours equals equity, that equals $100. Can you see the idea of equity?

35. 17:37

    OK. So they saw law as a principle of equity, OK. And that was there and they were very vehement about it, OK. And of course, because the rituals of the. Law were a lot easier to keep than its moral requirements. They put a lot of emphasis on all the rituals. Of the law.

36. 18:00

    You know, every the flesh is very capable of doing ritualistic things. It’ll traverse land and sea that convert somebody and build churches. They’ll do all sorts of things. And we can be doing it. We can be doing it right now. We can be coming here giving out leaf is doing everything. And it might all be on the basis of the strength of the flesh. It mightn’t be out of taking on board the divine mind and. Attitudes and out of gratitude.

37. 18:27

    Operating from that as a motive force, OK, they’re two different motive forces, OK. Faith energized by love, the Galatians is the great motive force of the gospel. Faith in the fact generates a spirit of gratitude. You take on board Christ’s own methods. You take on board divine attitudes. And they became a mental, moral motivating force that you receive from outside of yourself into your faculties.

38. 19:05

    And they became become a motivating force for you to do the things that God wants you to do. Works made for repentance. There’s no argument about works are needed. There’s no argument about obedience. Everyone agreed, the Jews agreed, the Christians believed obedience was necessary. There’s no doubt about that. The problem was your motivation.

39. 19:29

    What motivates you? And we can be Christadelphian or Judaizer, and you can live your whole life in the truth, keeping virtually a set of rules in the strength of yourself. It’s and you’d be quite blind of the fact you’re doing it. And that’s why this doctrine, the atonement is so important. We have a basic understanding of that.

40. 19:51

    Fortunately, amongst Christelphians, we always push the importance of the Word of God, something studied and taken on board day by day. But Saturday and they still do it. If you retire in a Jewish Home, all morning, all the old Jews, they sit around studying the first five books of Moses, the Torah, they spend the whole morning. Doing nothing else but studying the Torah in the afternoon they’re given magazines about the revival of Israel and so on in between meals and that I mean, but the the problem is what’s missing in their study of the word is those simple words in Timothy you know or you know from a child there was known the whole.

41. 20:37

    Scriptures which were able to give wise to salvation through the. Faith that, as in Christ Jesus, the Word of God won’t work for you as it should as a moral force. It’ll be just a set of rules which you’ll do your best to keep. You’re missing out on divine mind motivation. Missing out on. OK, OK, so deals with Romans the righteousness of God. If you got your pencils ready.

42. 21:17

    If we go to Romans chapter 1 and we go to what’s called the thesis and Alan will take you through this all again, but that’s good to do it a couple of times reading from Romans chapter 1. Have your pencil ready verse 15

43. 21:37

    so as much as as in me is I’m ready to preach the gospel to you that at Rome also for I’m not ashamed of the gospel the of Christ is not in the originals, but that makes no difference anyway. I’m not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the. Power of God under salvation.

44. 22:03

    Obviously a great moral power. It’s the power of God under salvation. He’s probably quoting Numbers 1417 when Moses in our that’s in our readings tonight. That’s in our readings today. Did you? When he pleads for Israel, they, you know, the spice, came back with an evil report in their readings and they wanted to make a captain and go. Back in God.

45. 22:30

    Wanted to splat them out and so. Moses the prophet Christ is a prophet like unto Moses, a great mediator, and he mediates for their forgiveness, and he appeals to the great power of God should. Manifest your power. And what was the power? It was the power. To forgive, the power to forgive, that’s what it was, the power of God unto salvation. OK.

46. 22:58

    And he quotes, you know, he quotes Exodus 33 and 34, gracious and merciful and long-suffering, but by no means will clear the guilty. Well, we know we’re guilty. We acknowledge that. We know you won’t likely pass by sin, but now let your great power, your goodness, come pardon. And he said immediately. Well, according to your word, because of you, Moses, I forgive them, but let them know that my purpose is not all about forgiveness. And he swear before them the whole. Earth would be filled with his glory. He wants we’re always looking forgiveness. He was always looking for holiness. OK, and that’s the context of that. So he’s probably referring to that when he says the gospel is the power of God under salvation to everyone that faiths that believeth Jamon.

47. 23:59

    That’s something you’ve got to get in this, mate. In this Romans bit, faith, belief of the same Greek word, and right through Romans, OK. In fact, right through the New Testament, OK, except except one’s a noun. Faith’s a noun, and believing is a verb. I bet you don’t even know what a verb is, dear.

48. 24:27

    What do you say? What did he say? What did he say? Oh, you did? Well, why don’t you see if you know the next one? I’ll come to it in a minute. Test you out. I don’t think they teach English at school these days. I had Matthew home the other night. I took him to clause 12 and he couldn’t even pronounce propitiation. And then he said, what’s this viz bit? What’s viz?

49. 24:54

    He says OK, Yeah, Anyway, I love picking on you blogs with your bad English and not that I’m any good at it either. So so I’ll, I’ll tend to use the word and it doesn’t exist in English to him that faiths I’ll tend to use. I’ve created an English verb for faith called faiths or faithing, OK, instead of using the word believe, OK, because I think there’s a difference between belief and faith.

50. 25:26

    I believe you can believe a thing as a fact that may not affect you. Faith is believing the thing that’s strongly right, that it affects you and changes your conduct. It’s a converting belief. That’s the difference between ordinary belief and faith. So we should have an English word OK fighting or something like that, OK. And the other one?

51. 25:57

    The other one to note is the word just and righteous, the righteousness of God. Sometimes it’s called the justice that God may be just. Now in the Greek, there’s no difference between just and righteous. They’re the same word basically. But here again you got the problem all right. To. The problem of noun and verb. So sometimes instead of using the word just, I’ll say righteous.

52. 26:32

    Fine, there’s no such English word, but I’m trying to explain to you I’ll. Try and use. The one word, even though they they don’t exist in English. Can you follow me? You’ll see it as we go along. So I’ll just read that again, verse 16. I’m not ashamed. The gospel for it is the power of God under salvation to everyone.

53. 26:53

    June Gentile. That faiths to the Jew 1st and also to the Gentile of Greek you ready with your pencil for therein that is within the gospel is the righteousness of God revealed. Now I want you to change one word there. See the righteousness of God. I want you to lightly cross out the word the and put A and it’s above it, in its place, a righteousness of God.

54. 27:28

    OK, very lightly. You’ll be able to rub it out later when you’ve got the message about it, you know, in a few months time. Rub it out. Of course it tells us something. OK, It tells us something. You see the righteousness of God as a term in Romans. The Testament and in the Old Testament can be one of two things that express the righteousness of God means God’s or righteousness, his own holy character.

55. 28:09

    OK, can mean that, but in this place it doesn’t mean that that’s what I’m putting to you. It means #2 to be reckoned righteous. It’s all they call the righteousness of God. Takes a long while to sink in. The girls pick it up straight away, but boys boy takes a while. Can you follow me, John?

56. 28:46

    Well, can you understand that it could refer to God as? Righteous. He’s a righteous God, but the very same phrase is also used. When you were baptized, you were pronounced righteous. You had received the righteousness of God. But that means something completely different to God’s personal. Righteousness, doesn’t it? That means he’s converted and forgiven you, and he’s going to help you from there on.

57. 29:17

    Isn’t that true? You were baptized not so long ago, were you? Can you see the difference? Now you can oversimplify it and say it can mean God’s personal holiness and righteousness, his righteous character, or it can mean the forgiveness we receive from God. And only forgiveness is oversimplifying.

58. 29:41

    And that forgiveness method is also called the righteousness of God. Why would it be called the righteousness of God? Because in Romans it’s dealing. With this other righteousness called unrighteousness, man’s method of righteousness, this is saying, God’s method of righteousness. See. I’ll prove it to you. Prove it to you. OK, let’s look at Romans chapter.

59. 30:13

    This is why I said you’re going to do Romans 1 to 8. That’s not good enough. You got to do Romans one to 10.

60. 30:22

    If you look at Romans 10 verse 3, he’s pressing total buttons here and this is a key verse, Alan. It’s a key verse for thy that is the Jews be ignorant of God’s righteousness, God’s method of righteousness for you and going about to establish their own method of righteousness have not submitted themselves to the method of righteousness that comes from God. So there’s two righteousnesses here, their own method or God’s method for you to be righteous.

61. 31:06

    Therefore, it carries this idea sometimes here, God’s method to make you righteous, He grants you getting it. Anyone got any problems with that? So I go back to Romans one again, and you must get that, or everything I say from here on won’t mean a thing to you

62. 31:40

    because we’re about to jump to Romans 3, where we’ve got to sort it out there. So verse 17 says for therein, that is within the gospel is a method of righteousness from God

63. 31:56

    and it’s revealed in that gospel. This method of God to make you righteousness is revealed. It’s from faith. That’s Eck. It’s based on faith. So within the gospel is a method for you to be righteous in God’s sight based on faith.

64. 32:20

    Then it says to. Faith that is East. That is toward faith and as many interpretations of that nothing Brother Carter gives the most logical and it is it got the idea of here is a righteousness of Gods of God, a method of righteousness based on faith. That’s all. One phrase within the gospel is a method of righteousness based upon faith, and that righteousness goes toward those who actually faith. That the idea toward those E toward those who fight. And then he gives a quote and there’s not a double faith in the quote he quotes from Habakkuk. The the just shall live by faith or as it literally is in the Hebrew, My righteous one by faith shall live. Have a Cath chapter 2 We we won’t go there. See how I change just The just shall live by faith, my righteous 1.

65. 33:35

    The righteous shall live by faith. The word just and the word righteousness in this verse comes from the same basic root. The word just and righteousness come from the same root. Connect the idea of just to the word righteousness, right? Faith is belief to the point, belief in the gospel, the point where it changes you.

66. 34:08

    And live. It means not only live now, it means to live eternally. Getting too heavy is it? Never mind, so I read. It again for within the gospel is a method of righteousness from God revealed. It’s based on faith, and that pronouncement of righteousness comes on those who actually faith as it is written.

67. 34:50

    The righteous shall live by faith. OK, In fact, he becomes righteous because of his faith in the work of Jesus Christ. OK, he was. If you like. If you want to oversimplify it, it’s saying that a method of forgiveness has been revealed in the gospel based upon faith. You got to believe certain facts and acknowledge them as it is written.

68. 35:28

    The righteous that is the forgiven and this doesn’t strictly mean this. The forgiven will live eternal because of their. Faith, can you follow that? OK, OK, let’s take that now up. It’s hard work tonight and it’s the main bit. Let’s go to Romans 3.

69. 36:01

    Now this is all on tape. OK, you fellas, this is all on tape. And you may have to listen to the tape several times to get these messages. OK. When I’m preparing people for baptism, I expect them to be able to explain verses 19 to 31 of Romans 8. And that becomes. Part of their examination well, I find I always have to put on tape a paraphrase of what it’s saying and I have to listen to it quite a few times before it becomes part of themselves OK all right, so this is all on tape.

70. 36:36

    Isn’t fellas, it’s all on tape. OK, but let’s. Pick up the flow of thought. Well, maybe you can just do the pencil changes. We need to change verse 21. It says, but now the righteousness. Let’s change that to, but now a righteousness. Can you do that and do exactly the same in verse 22, Even the righteousness? Should be even a righteousness.

71. 37:13

    So we’re we’ve got this a righteousness. It’s referring to God’s method of making new righteous. OK. It’s not referring to God’s personal righteousness. But both meanings occur continuously throughout these verses, right in the beginning of chapter 3 on the whole issue in chapter 3 is about whether God’s righteous and how you can become righteous.

72. 37:41

    That’s the whole subject. OK. And if we had time, we’d do the whole chapter that better. Alan can do that with you right now. The other little things I suggest with your pencil you don’t have to do. You just do it if it suits you. OK, you’ve got the three that matter. OK, you’ve got the three that matter.

73. 38:06

    The one in chapter 1 and the 2 here in in those two verses 21 and 22. If you’ve changed into a. Righteousness. A righteousness you. That’s enough. But just for the advanced student, keep your pencil going and we can get some other points, but this is not essential for you fellas. You try and get the basics. OK, verse, you’re ready.

74. 38:32

    Verse 19 for we know that is we perceive that whatsoever things the law says, put a tick over the Jamin. What’s the definite article? Did you do your high school certificate or did you just do year 10? He only went to year 10 and you don’t know what the definite article is. He doesn’t know what the definite. I’ll tell you what, you’ve got to mate. You’re going to mate.

75. 39:09

    In fact, I think you’ve got a lot of them. You don’t know what the definite article is. The definite article. I’m just trying to think of his name. Nutter. What’s his first name? Chris. Chris Nutter has done his high school certificate, done all that, and he’s sitting right down the front row at the school of the Prophet. And I’m saying to him now you’ve you’ve got your high school certificate.

76. 39:35

    Yes, yes, I said, and yeah, you’re an electrician, so yeah, you’ve got a. So what’s the death? An article, he said, I don’t know. OK, OK. The definite article. It’s the word the. Got it. You only have my grants and misfortune, not a crime. And, you know, just don’t take it serious. The indefinite article is I I is it?

77. 40:07

    OK, it’s definite. Definite. Got it. You got it. Oh, you knew that, Pete. You’ve been through this before, haven’t you? Or didn’t I ask that before you tell your girlfriend that? OK, All right. All right. She’s she’s not a patch on you, mate. OK, Right. So put a tick over that first one.

78. 40:34

    Now, we know that whatsoever things that law said, it’s said to them that are under the law. Yeah. Tick that one. All right. So the Jews, they were under the law and the law here is Speaking of the law of Moses. OK, but the term the law can mean the law of Moses, or can mean the first five books, or can mean the whole Old Testament or can simply mean.

79. 41:09

    The Word of God. OK, so the term the law is very general, can refer just to the law of Moses, refer to the Pentateuch, can refer to the whole Old Testament. It can actually refer to the whole Bible just called the law. OK, But we find later that the word that is dropped in some places and where it’s dropped, the emphasis is?

80. 41:37

    The Law of Moses has equity law. In principle, the Law of Moses was more than law, but law. It was revelation, it was excitation, it was prophecy, it was all sorts of things. It was history. But as a covenant, it was law. And law is strict equity. If you do that, this is what you get. If you commit adultery, not forgiveness, you’d be put to death, OK.

81. 42:11

    And if if one of the young fellows, if a 14 year old or 15 year old plays up, he really plays up as a drunkard and drugs and so on and so on. He had to take him to the elders and say you can’t do anything with him and he had to take him out and everyone’s to stone him. If anyone actually OK, the law was saying what you deserve, OK, David should have been put to death with his Summa Bathsheba. That’s equity.

82. 42:42

    He wasn’t OK. That law is equity. The Jew said OK and he’s using in their sense earning equity. So when the drops off, the emphasis is strong on the law, strict equity, the message. Can you follow that?

83. 43:09

    It’s all on type verse 19, that every mouth may be stopped and that all the world, June Jindal might become guilty before God. That was the purpose of the law, to make the whole world guilty before God. He wants to conclude everyone under sin, that he might have mercy on all. That’s just God’s business. It’s his method.

84. 43:33

    He’s made a subject of vanity, not willingly, but by reason of humour, subjected the same in hope. That’s our position. We didn’t ask to be born the way we are, but we’re born the way we are. And He’s given U.S. law to teach us what we are, that we’re sinners, but we might all become guilty before God.

85. 43:53

    Verse 20 Therefore by deeds of law cross out the the by deeds of. Law, which was the Jewish view. Deeds of law, works of law earn earn righteousness right by deeds of law shall no flesh be justified in his sight? And that last phrase, no flesh be justified or righteous fide shall no flesh be pronounced righteous in his sight or righteous Fie. And that’s actually in the margin there against you’ll see some. 143 verse 2.

86. 44:36

    He’s actually quoting that in Psalm 143, verse 2, the expression Shall no flesh be a righteous fight in his sight. For by law epigmosis, the acknowledgement of sin, the full knowledge, sometimes translated acknowledgement of sin. It’s a knowledge is can be a theoretical knowledge, but when you actually experience that knowledge in practice becomes EPI gnosis, it becomes a knowledge born of from experience. I mean, when you go to tech, they teach you certain things. You go into the exchange, they talk, oh, that’s what they meant When you muck it up the first time and the second time and then the boss says you mucked that up again, you had it and eventually you get it right after you’ve done it becomes second nature to you.

87. 45:46

    You don’t even have to think about what you learn at tech anymore. Gnosis was what you learned at tech by putting you got to he knows this you acknowledge it becomes a skill now I learned how to experience by trying to keep the law of God that just couldn’t do it and it just taught you from experience just how big a Sinner we are get the message. So that’s the purpose of the law equity. That’s what equity is all about.

88. 46:20

    All you ever learned from the law is that you’re worthy of death, but the Jews couldn’t say that now. As my acts of righteousness exceeded my sins, as long as I had these five acts of righteous and only two of sins, then equity says I’m in front and therefore I’m earning salvation. OK the way they but we very well.

89. 46:44

    Paul’s are going to bounce that against this. It says cursed as everyone that continueth not in all things are written in the book of the law to do them. It’s Laura, right and it’s equity and and and the more of equity is sin. Once and you’re out, you’re worthy of death. That’s equity.

90. 47:06

    Look at Adam, he said once death, but they made the mistake had wrong doctrine about it. Wrong doctrine leads to wrong action leads to wrong motivation. They rely on the flesh that are relying on their works. OK, wrong. Wrong doctrine, wrong attitudes. And they lose the way of eternal life.

91. 47:32

    Verse 21 But now that is for the coming of Christ, and the revelation of the gospel says, But now. A. Method of righteousness from God without law cross out of the without law without strict equity is manifested. I was witnessed by the law tick was witnessed by the law and the prophets that is was witnessed by the whole Old Testament. You go through all the Old Testament, you’ll find the prophecies about this method of we can call it grace, righteousness, if you.

92. 48:15

    Like OK, this method of righteousness by grace. It’s been talked about, right? Through the Bible, even in the law of Moses was typified in a million and one ways. And right from the very first promise, God promised that he’d raise up a man who would overcome and destroy the effects of the serpent’s temptation. OK, it was a promise.

93. 48:39

    OK, it’s grace. It’s mercy. It’s not equity. No one did anything to entitle them to that thing. Verse 22, even a method of righteousness of God, which is through faith that relates to Jesus Christ. So it’s a method of righteousness witnessed in the law, says verse 21. Verse 22 says it’s a God’s method of righteousness, but it’s through. Your faith.

94. 49:17

    In what Jesus Christ did, and he says, when it comes unto all that is due in general, and upon all them, let faith. If there was such an English word, I’m using faith as a verb now, not as a noun to. All them that. Faith. They believe it to the point where it changes their direction of life.

95. 49:40

    And shouldn’t it? Oh, we haven’t got that shot up now. I mean, but you’ve got Christ crucified. When you see what the crowd did to the glory. Here’s the glory of God in their midst. When you see what the crowd. Did to that and you realize that you belong to the crowd once and now and again we seem to jump back into the crowd every time we sin we actually the honor of God OK so that’s how dreadful transgression is if you can if you kind of.

96. 50:11

    Realize how awful that is, and yet how wonderful the mind of Christ was, all because He took on board the divine mind Himself. And if that won’t turn you around from chasing the life of sin and relying on itself, to turning around to seeking after God’s mind as a method of motivation, nothing will do it. It’s supposed to.

97. 50:36

    Turn everyone of you from your iniquity. The very awareness of the enormity of sin and the wonderfulness of God manifestation should to good and honoured hearts. It actually converts them. It converts them. If I be lifted up, I’ll draw all men under me. That is all that are intended to be saying the good and honest heart.

98. 51:03

    Verse 20. Three says the reason why there’s this method of righteousness from God and not by works of law is because all have sinned, Jew and Gentile, they’ve all sinned and they’ve all come short of the glory of God. You cannot earn it. More is equity you can’t earn. Righteousness. You can’t be pronounced righteous by the God on the basis of equity. Law can’t be done, OK, Because all of sin and come short of the glory of God, OK, That was the easy part, OK. Verse 24 Being righteous fired.

99. 52:06

    If there was such an English word being righteous fired, that is pronounced righteous freely he. Is the God, and he pronounces this Sinner. Here he pronounces him righteous. Freely and freely is the exact opposite to earning. It’s not unconditional, but free is the opposite of earning. There’s. No way you can earn a pronouncement of righteousness, OK?

100. 52:37

     It’s a free thing, being righteous, fired freely by God’s grace or favor, unmerited favor. It’s a matter of grace, OK, but it’s conditional. It’s through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. It’s through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. I should have. Been turning these over justified freely right through faith in his blood. He is God’s grace in the form of justification or a pronouncement of righteousness.

101. 53:27

     It’s through and it means through. It’s channelled through Christ and it reaches the person who. Fights. OK, who believes what Christ crucified was all about? It’s a free thing. It’s not unconditional, but it’s not earned. It’s free in the sense of not earned.

102. 54:12

     I’m missing something here Child or something turn 2 pages. Yes, through the red, that’s the one I missed, wasn’t through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. So it’s conditional, it’s free, but it’s conditional. There is a redemption. And it’s actually in Christ Jesus. He actually possesses it. He’s actually gone before. And obtain personal redemption.

103. 54:49

     He’s the first fruits of them that sleep. First Corinthians 15. He’s the first fruits of God’s method of salvation. He’s the first one that walked the path perfectly and completely. Others had walked before him, but they’d never completed. It they couldn’t get past remember those earlier charts on the Gap? They couldn’t get past temptation and death. Christ did, and he’s held a complete right. And in Christ we have a perfect manifestation of salvation from being a man right to become an immortal man. OK, so it’s a redemption that he has in himself, who by his own blood entered once into the the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption.

104. 55:38

     The forest shouldn’t be there. That means he had. It in himself. But he did obtain it in himself God gave the privilege to actually. Share it on certain conditions he had to if he. Hadn’t obtained personal redemption. He couldn’t share it with anybody. OK, so he obtained personal redemption. Redemption that salvation on how that refers to purchasing a slave, but using in the general sense the salvation that’s actually embodied in Christ Jesus because perfectly though he was a son, he emptied his off been found in fashion of Manning humiliate himself became obedient under the death of the cross wherefore God highly. Exhorted him, OK, so he’s redeemed, but he’s redeemed par excellence.

105. 56:30

     John 526 says God’s passed all judgement over to me. He’s also passed over to me the power to to raise the dead and give them eternal life as the Father hath life in himself, saith He given the Son to have life in himself. So he’s embodied in Jesus Christ because he was the one, the way of eternal life, perfectly OK. He gave him the ability, this redemption in such a way that enabled him to actually share it with those who might be able to walk it as perfectly as he did.

106. 57:09

     But make that endeavour and believe that Christ did it perfectly and use the same methods and use the forgiveness that comes because he had vindicated God. OK to use that forgiveness along with the method God let’s Christ share his own personal redemption with them the same as God shared his own immortality with Jesus Christ.

107. 57:35

     It’s amazing concept. Try and catch it. Very different than Jews. We’re keeping a set of rules to earn eternal life. God owes you to you to give it to you. You earn it, you know, so you know, that’s Roman’s chapter. If if the if the reward is is by works, then it’s of debt. God owes it to you and Abraham never got it his righteousness by death.

108. 58:01

     It says Abraham believe God and that was accounted to him for righteousness. OK, and that’s another key verse that Romans 4. I think it’s verse three or something that shows the Jewish attitude in the background.

109. 58:19

     So we’re justified freely by the redemption that’s embodied in Christ Jesus. OK, there’s hands of fellowship. When you shake somebody hand at the meeting, you’re indicating you you’re both sharing the one hope. You’re both sharing with God and you’re sharing with each other the one thing even in business and that you shake someone hand, that’s a sharing of of confidence in each other for business purposes or whatever. OK, there’s a sharing idea.

110. 58:50

     The word fellowship actually means sharing and in John chapter one it talks about how we have fellowship with God. We have fellowship with each other. The blood of Christ cleanse us from all sin. They make sharing God’s purpose is all about sharing himself with His people, his sons and daughters, and he does it through Christ by letting Christ share what He is.

111. 59:13

     Behold on the children who go and give the doctrine of sharing. It’s a very important doctrine and it’s laid out by Brother Roberts. OK, I suppose it’s another way of saying, however, however, it’s another way of saying that it’s a matter of grace and there has to be the element of forgiveness. But in the end, God’s sharing and Christ sharing with you what He is. It’s a beautiful concept, right?

112. 59:45

     We share Christ’s victory over sin We’re we’re being able to be presented before the presence of his glory, faultless with exceeding joy. That can’t be understood except on the basis that it’s a mixture of manifesting God and being forgiven. It’s a mixture, isn’t it right. The righteousness of God is a is a mixture.

113. 1:00:10

     Repentance means that the. The the truth of God’s got into your mind. There is real God’s righteousness an element of it in there. You know so that’s the beginning of God manifestation in you right and be baptized for remission of sins and for remission of sins. You need that ongoing all the time for David baptism on OK and you’ll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit means God will help you from there on OK, I mean the Holy Spirit they we haven’t got it today in the powerful but 99% of the Holy Spirit was always ever used for writing the scriptures. The scriptures are called the Holy Spirit and instead of the New Testament they had spirit and the elders that have to get up and speak the things you read in the New Testament until it was written.

114. 1:00:57

     So we’ve got the Holy Spirit there it is on your left. There’s nothing greater than the mind of God. I mean Balaam had the physical power of God. We didn’t have the mind of God didn’t do him any good, did it? You can’t go higher than taken on board the mind of God.

115. 1:01:11

     I think we’ve said that many times you can’t go higher than that. All right in Christ Jesus and later on are taken from Isaiah 4524 and 25 which I don’t know that we’ve got time to look at which 5 minutes to go. OK, it looks like we’re not going to do it finish tonight.

116. 1:01:45

     That’s a pity isn’t it Redemption is in Christ Jesus can’t be done. Sorry we’re not going to finish it tonight. I I purposely jumped forward so we do all Romans 3 in those verses. We just can’t do it. We’re we’re going on to the most complex is whom God has set forth to be of appreciation.

117. 1:02:13

     OK, any of you boys know what a propitiation is? Mercy seat? Yeah, it’s a propitiatory place. It’s only used twice here and in Hebrews 9 where it’s translated mercy seat. OK, what was the mercy seat? The mercy seat was the place. It was a caporeth. See the lid on top of the ark, the two Caribbean, the glory, and that high priest had to go in once a year and sprinkle with blood. It was the place of forgiveness.

118. 1:02:55

     OK, the place of forgiveness, Hitler. Sterion actually means the place of favor. So in the Hebrew it’s the place covering Caporeth, here it’s the place of favour. No difference. OK, so Christ is set forth as. The. Place of favour, God says, I’ll meet you there. I’ll meet you at Christ crucified, I’ll meet you at what he was declaring. I’ll meet you at that demonstration of certain facts. I’ll meet you at you believing what those facts were. If it’s changed your direction of life, that’s where I’ll meet you, and that’s where I’ll forgive you. OK.

119. 1:03:43

     But we’ll run over that again on the next time. Thank you, Andrew.