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338: Roger Lewis - The Faithfulness Of The House Of Asaph

March 9, 2025 51 min

This week we are listening to the a class by Bro. Roger Lewis from his series on "The House of Asaph - Family of Faith and Masters of Music" that he has given at several Bible Schools over the years (we are unsure which Bible School this recording is from). This is the fifth class from that series titled "The Faithfulness of the House Asaph" .

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  1. 0:13

    Welcome to good Chris Selfian talks. I’m Levi, I’m Chris, I’m Jason, and I’m Brian. Thank you for joining us this week on this podcast. We select one talk a week to help us get the Bible in our Daily News feed. Each week we post a talk that we previewed from suggestions sent in by listeners from around the world. Then we record a short intro beforehand as a personalized recommendation to you on why we are sharing the talk. And now let’s talk more about this week’s talk. Hi, this is Brother Levi.

  2. 0:52

    This week’s class is titled The Faithfulness of the House of Asaph that Roger Lewis gave a couple times. I actually can’t find from where I download this class. I can’t find exactly where he presented it, but I do know that he presented this series multiple times. I listened to it in person when I was much younger, which is how I remembered this class. I was actually reading Ezra chapter 3 and, and, and ran into some notes in my Bible of from this class, from this series and from this session in particular.

  3. 1:27

    I really, I, I, I remember this class very well and it was really fun to listen to it again. It’s an excellent kind of use of Bible study, but also a really inspiring story about how the House of Asaph kept the songs, kept the old songs for hundreds of years. And it’s a neat, neat kind of verse chain to see them showing back up, presenting it. It’s absolutely an example of faithfulness. Roger also ends with a discussion kind of on our own hymn book, on the Christophian hymn book and the importance, you know, of, of maintaining the same kind of songs that are biblically sound but also identify in a way us as Christadelphians.

  4. 2:11

    And I I that thought has also has stayed with me since he presented it that I mean, some some have even said before that you could kind of define a Christadelphian as someone who sings from the Christadelphian hymn book, which is what Roger says or someone who reads from the Robert Roberts reading plan.

  5. 2:28

    It’s those two things are actually kind of our most unifying documents as a larger community. So, and I do think our community has that same heritage as the House of Asaph that we need to hold our principles and you know, the the truths that we understand from the Bible from generation to generation as as the House of Asaph shows here.

  6. 2:51

    So it was fun to revisit this class and I’m excited to to share it here on the podcast. This is the house, the faithfulness of the House of Asaph. Well, thank you, brother chairman, and my dear brothers and sisters in the Lord Jesus Christ. You’ll remember that in our in our previous study yesterday, we looked at the House of Asaph from the time of Jehoshaphat to the time of Hezekiah. You’ll remember how we saw Jehoiada’s revival 25 years after Jehoshaphat in approximately BC 835, and how he insisted on having the very best of the singers present at the coronation of Joash.

  7. 3:40

    And how that the sons of Asaph, in fact, were the leading cause of those leading singers in praise who were there at the coronation of the King, so that the very best of standards might be the benchmark of the young King’s reign. And then you’ll remember that about 120 years later, in approximately BC 715, we saw the tremendous readiness of the House of Asaph in the days of Hezekiah.

  8. 4:11

    And we learned how this amazing family had practiced their songs in secret through all those years of dreadful apostasy. And we learned to appreciate, did we not, the excellence of endeavour. And to know that for the House of Asaph, even their practice each day was considered to be out of their offering to Almighty God.

  9. 4:34

    So what happened then to the House of Asaph after Hezekiah died? Well, you know, the reigns of the next two kings in Judah, we’re amongst the worst in the history of the nation. In fact, if you come to the Second of Kings and chapter 21, we’re told of the circumstances of the king that followed Hezekiah, who was of course his son Manasseh. And we’re told him the Second of Kings chapter 21. And reading from verse, perhaps reading from verse 4, it says this.

  10. 5:12

    And he built altars in the House of Yahweh, of which Yahweh said in Jerusalem, I will put my name. And he built altars for all the hosts of heaven, and the two courts of the House of Yahweh. Verse 7. And he set a graven image of the Grove that he had made in the House of which Yahweh said to David and to Solomon his son.

  11. 5:41

    In this house and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all tribes of Israel, will I put my name forever their brothers and sisters inside the very House of God. Manasseh put a graven image of the Grove. What would it have been like to be one of the singers in the days of this man Manasseh brothers and sisters and and his successor Amon was little better than he because in this same chapter in the reign of Amon, we’re told in the second of Kings chapter 21 and verse 21, it says of Amon or Amon his son, and he walked in all the way that his father walked in and served the idols that his father served and worshipped them.

  12. 6:28

    And he forsook Yahweh, Elohim of his fathers, and walked not in that particular way, the way of God, but his son, son of Amon, surprisingly, was a man altogether different in spirit to his father, because of course, the son of Ammon was none other than good king Josiah of Judah. And if you come to the Second of Chronicles chapter 34, this man was going to launch yet another revival in the nation of Judah.

  13. 7:03

    And the history of that people we’re told in the Second of Chronicles, chapter 34 and verse 30, right at the end of the chapter, it says this. It says, And the king went up into the House of the Lord, and all the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the priests and the Levites, and all the people great and small, He read in their ears all the words of the book of the covenant that was found in the House of Yahweh. And the king stood in his place and made a covenant before Yahweh to walk after Yahweh, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statues with all his heart and with all his soul, to perform the words of the covenant which are written in this book.

  14. 7:48

    And so he was a man that was going to begin things afresh. He repaired and he cleansed the temple, and then standing here at the temple, he bound the nation into a covenant promise that they might keep the law of God. Again, as it was written in the scroll of the book of Deuteronomy. You see, Josiah, I believe, knew by this stage that judgment could not be avoided.

  15. 8:11

    He knew that judgment would come and that it could not be avoided. But the desire of Josiah was that he would try to build nevertheless a spiritual remnant who, although carried away to Babylon, would become the spiritual core of those who might one day come back to the land of promise. He knew that he could not avoid the judgment on Judah. It had already been pronounced in this chapter. God had already said, they will go into captivity, the nation will be judged.

  16. 8:42

    But I think Josiah’s spirit of endeavour here in causing the nation to be pledged again to the law was that he might build a remnant that could be saved out of Babylon in due course. And then we’re told in chapter 35 and verse one of the great Passover that Josiah celebrated in his 18th year.

  17. 9:05

    Now I want you to notice something really interesting about the opening verses of the Second of Chronicles 35. It says in verse one. Moreover, Josiah kept the Passover unto Yahweh in Jerusalem, and they killed the Passover on the 14th day of the first month, that he set the priests and their charges and encouraged them to the service of the House of Yahweh. And he said unto the Levites, that taught all Israel, which were holy unto Yahweh, put the holy ark in the house, which Solomon the son of David king of Israel, did build. Now if those words are true, you brothers and sisters, in the second of Chronicles 35 and verse 3, then the burning question of this chapter is where was the ark and who had it?

  18. 10:11

    If the command came to the Levites in the third verse that they should put it back into the house, where was the ark of God?

  19. 10:22

    And I think that there are three possibilities as to what had happened to the ark on this occasion in the history of the nation. The 1st is, and it has been suggested and it’s perfectly reasonable that it was taken out by by Josiah himself at the time of the cleansing of the temple.

  20. 10:38

    So that’s one possibility, and it may well be so, that Josiah had removed the ark in the course of his cleansing and repair of the Temple in the previous chapter. A second possibility is, and this is what the rabbinical writers of the Jews say, is that it was actually sent forth by Manasseh to make room for the idolatrous statues that he wished to bring into the House of God.

  21. 11:05

    That it was at the request of Manasseh that the ark was removed in order that he might bring in his own private worship, idols of worship, into the house. But a third possibility is, and I’m going to suggest to you this morning, that this is quite possibly what did happen. 1/3 possibility is that the Ark of God was removed by the Levites themselves in order to prevent the desecration of the Ark in these times of the apostasy of Manasseh and Amon.

  22. 11:41

    Now were the Levites who have taken the Ark, who would carry the Ark? And of course, well, there’s no doubt about that, is there? It would be the Koathites. Only the Koathites were allowed to lift the Ark, but who would be with them in spirit? And the answer is surely the House of Asaf, because the House of Asaf, Well, their whole job was to sing before the Ark of God and to celebrate the sacredness of that ark and what it stood for.

  23. 12:06

    If there was ever a family in Israel that would want to see, that, would want to prevent any desecration to the Ark, it would be the House of Asaph. And we wonder whether perhaps the House of Asaph, in collaboration with the Koathites, had had ensured that the Ark was spirited away at this time into a place of safety so that it might, might not be defiled or profaned. Now, do you know why we suggest that that is possibly what happened?

  24. 12:32

    It’s because of the strange phrase that occurs later on in this third verse, because you see what the verse goes on to say. Josiah says, put the holy ark in the house which Solomon the son of David, king of Israel, did build. And then he says this. It shall not be a burden upon your shoulders.

  25. 12:57

    Now, by the way, those words come from the first of Chronicles 23 and verse 26, as the margin tells us. And, and in those words of David on an earlier occasion, what we’re being told is that when the ark of God finally came to its resting place in the temple, the Levites were told that it would no longer be their burdens to carry the ark anymore.

  26. 13:17

    It had come to its final resting place. So why does Josiah in chapter 35 of the Second of Chronicles, in verse three, say to the Levites, It shall not be a burden upon your shoulders, unless the ark had in recent times become yet again a burden of responsibility to the coophytes?

  27. 13:44

    And why might it have become in recent times a burden again to the coophytes? The answer is because they had recently borne the ark 4IN collaboration with the sons of Asaph, who would be determined to safeguard it from damage and defilement. After all, as the verse says, it was the holy Ark. So I believe, brothers and sisters, that when Josiah in this verse asked the Levites to put the ark back in the house, I, I think, well, sorry, when he asked for, for the Levites to put the ark in the house, I think he meant for them to put it back in the house because they had it. And that that’s therefore exactly what they did. And what then follows is a magnificent Passover celebration, the like of which had not been seen for hundreds of years in the history of the nation. They observed everything according to the writings of David and the writings of Solomon and the writings of Moses.

  28. 14:44

    Everything was to be done according to Scripture and the writing of Scripture on this occasion. And one thing I can tell you, brothers and sisters, and it’s a remarkable thing, is that when the ark of God suddenly reappears back in the temple on this occasion, guess who’s there? Quick as a flash, verse 15.

  29. 15:06

    And the singers, the sons of Asaph, were in their place according to the commandment of David and Asaph and Heman and Judithan, the King’s seer, and the porters waited at every gate. You know, it was not a requirement of the Passover law that the singers be present at Passover time. So the House of Asaph are not there in verse 15 because it is in any sense a commandment of Moses. And I don’t think that they were there because Josiah had instructed them to be there, because the record doesn’t tell us in any, at any stage of this chapter that Josiah had specifically requested that the House of Asaph be there. And although they were there in accordance with the instructions of David, I don’t think they were there because of the commandment of David either.

  30. 16:05

    I think the House of Asaph was there in the 15th verse for one reason only. They were there on an entirely voluntary basis, brothers and sisters. They were there because no power on earth could have stopped them from being there that day. This was their chance to minister before the Ark with the singing of their family.

  31. 16:26

    Family psalms. You try stopping them from being there that day. There must have been tears for joy in the House of Asaph as they sang their psalms before the Ark on this occasion, because the discipline of practice now had its fulfillment and an outpouring of praise in public worship. Some of these here this day had waited all their lives for this one moment, this one day in the time of Josiah, for the chance to sing before the ark just this once. Can you imagine, brothers and sisters, if we were told that we had but one chance, but one opportunity, to sing in an evening of song and praise, in a choral evening of worship to our Father?

  32. 17:18

    One chance in our life to sing in a choir and to offer praise to the Father. How would we sing on that night? Wouldn’t we strain every fiber of our being and lifting up our our songs of praise? You know, this is the last occasion, Brothers and sisters, this chapter, the second of Chronicles 35, is the last occasion in recorded history that the Ark of God appears amongst the children of Israel.

  33. 17:54

    And who’s there singing in front of the ark with all their hearts but the House of Asaph? It’s exactly the spirit that we would have expected of this family. You know, Psalm 81 celebrates that particular time in the life of Josiah. If we come back to Psalm 81, we’re told this, and we’ve already looked at this in terms of the fact that the great theme of Psalm 81 is connected with both the book of the Law and the theme of Passover.

  34. 18:30

    But just have a look at the recurring refrain, the recurring refrain of Psalm 81, because you see, I think that this Psalm was brought forth by the House of Asaph at the very time of Josiah’s reformation, and that what it captures is the bittersweet sadness of Josiah’s reformation. He knew that the bulk of the people were lost.

  35. 18:57

    He desperately wanted to build a remnant if he could. And here’s the refrain of Psalm 81. Verse 8 Here, O my people, and I will testify unto thee, O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me. Verse 11 But my people would not hearken to my voice, and Israel would none of me. Verse 13 Oh, that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways.

  36. 19:34

    And you see what this Psalm dwells on, Brothers and sisters, it is a lamentation of the tragedy of a people for whom the time of repentance had gone. If only they had listened, if only they had hearkened, what could have been done? What might have been accomplished? It’s a Psalm of lamentation that shows all the pathos and all the heartbreak of those there who saw Josiah’s mighty effort and who knew the desperate sadness of the king in his endeavours of reformation. I think that that Psalm from the House of Asaph breathes all the sadness of that moment in the history of the nation. Do you know when this episode took place? The great Passover of Josiah in the Second of Chronicles, chapter 35?

  37. 20:22

    Well, this is about BC 620. And therefore it is 95 years after Hezekiah’s reformation in the Second of Chronicles chapter 29. So from the time that the singers sang in the days of Hezekiah, we’ve marched now another 95 years to come to the great Passover of Josiah in the Second of Chronicles chapter 35. That’s about another 3 generations of the House of Asaph, but they’re still there, quick of the flesh, when the Ark of God reappears in the temple in Josiah’s time. So what must this family have felt when a man, when a king as good as Josiah died?

  38. 21:11

    Well, we’re told actually in the Second of Chronicles chapter 35, because of course, this is the tragedy of what happened in the time of Josiah. He embarked upon this reformation and upon this wondrous Passover at which the House of Asaph sang. But we’re told in the Second of Chronicles chapter 35 and verse 23, and The Archers shot at King Josiah. And the king said to his servants, have me away, for I’m sore wounded.

  39. 21:41

    His servants therefore took him out of that chariot and put him in the second chariot that he had. And they brought him to Jerusalem. And he died and was buried in one of the sepulchers of his fathers. And all Judah and Jerusalem mourned for Josiah, and Jeremiah lamented for Josiah, and all the singing men and the singing women spake of Josiah in their lamentations to this day. You see, I can imagine how how desperately sad the House of Asaph would have been when such a man as this, who was so close in spirit to them, died.

  40. 22:18

    And that work of revival began to decline again, because with the death of Josiah, the nation now rapidly did decline through the reign of Jehoiahs, through the time of Jehoiakim, through the reign of Jehoiah Qin, to the time of Zedekiah. When finally all was lost and the nation was about to be carried forth into captivity, the House of God was burned with fire. And Psalm 74 and Psalm 79 were written by the House of Asaph, weeping as they went forth into captivity in Babylon at the desolation that had come upon the House of God, and bitter lamentation or the spiritual failure of the nation. In the meantime, brothers and sisters, the sons of Asaph were put in the basket of good figs, and they were carried to Bebelen.

  41. 23:17

    And what was their spirit when they got to Bebelen, do you think? What do you think the spirit and the attitude of the family of Asaph was when they came into the land of the stranger and into their place of captivity? Well, I think we know. I think we’re given a Psalm that tells us exactly how the how the whoops, how the House of Asaph felt in captivity. Now, what might that Psalm be, you know? Well, it’s Psalm 137.

  42. 23:49

    Now come and have a look at this because I think that this Psalm tells us exactly what the spirit of this family was in the time of their captivity in the land of Babylon. It says there in the first verse, you see what this Well, in fact, before we even get to the first verse, they’re heading over my Bible for Psalm 137 says the constancy of the Jews in captivity. That’s the heading for the Psalm, the constancy of the Jews in captivity.

  43. 24:21

    But I, I don’t think that the Psalm celebrates the constancy of the Jews in general. I think that this Psalm celebrates the constancy of a particular group of Jews in captivity. Now, do you know who that that group might be? Well, I’ll tell you. It’s the group who are known as the Singers.

  44. 24:44

    This Psalm is all about the singers who went to Babylon, and the Psalm will reveal the spirit of the House of Asaph. Here’s a break up or a breakdown as the case may be of Psalm 137. It’s a very simple 1 verses one to three pathos, verses 4 to 6 defiance, verses 7 to 9 judgement.

  45. 25:13

    This Psalm is the spirit of the House of Asaph in Babylon. They were determined not to give up their songs, but they were equally determined that they would not sing them to the heathen. And so when it says, well, wedding in verse one by the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down. Yeah, we wept when we, when we remembered Zion. We hanged our hearts upon the willows in the midst thereof. For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song, and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. Now who might the Babylonians have asked to sing the songs of Zion?

  46. 25:57

    Brothers and sisters, but the families of the singers, of course. And what was the spirit of the singers? Verse 4? How shall we sing Yahweh song in a strange land? Now you see, I think that the words of verse 4 is not the spirit of apathy. I think that here instead was that silence which sprang from a burning loyalty to the truth, only made more intense by the disaster of the captivity.

  47. 26:25

    It wasn’t that this family weren’t prepared to sing the songs of God, brothers and sisters, that they would not sing them to strangers. You see what verse, what verses 5 and 6 say? If I forget the O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth. Tongues and hands.

  48. 26:55

    Now who might those two words refer to in Psalm 137? Tongues and hands, but the singers on instruments. This is the vow of loyalty that the singers made in Babylon, that they would never forget Jerusalem in all of their captivity. Now, you see, I think that this particular Sam is appropriate to the overthrow of Babylon.

  49. 27:27

    That has been used, by the way, on some occasions in the brotherhood to argue other causes, such as relating it to the time of the Assyrians and Seneca. But I do not think that that’s so. I think it is definitely a Sam relating to the Babylonian captivity. I can think of three good reasons for saying so. Firstly, in verse 7, the day of Jerusalem that is referred to is the day when the foundations of the city of Jerusalem were discovered.

  50. 27:54

    It is clearly the day of Jerusalem’s overthrow. The overthrow of Jerusalem never happened in the days of the Assyrians. Sennacherib never got even inside the city. He never did overthrow Jerusalem. But this Psalm is a lamentation for the day when Jerusalem fell that relates to the Babylonians in verse 8. The words happy, the word reward, and the words served are all deliberately taken from Jeremiah chapter 51 and verse 56 concerning the future overthrow of Babylon. The very verbs of Psalm 137 verse 8 are taken specifically from the prophecy of Jeremiah chapter 51, verse 56, which most certainly is not about Assyria, it’s about Babylon. And lastly, verse 9 says, Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. And Rotherham’s translates that blessed is the man that shall do these things.

  51. 29:02

    And this Psalm looks forward to a particular individual that one day would conquer Babylon and answer the prayers of the singers who were there. And you see, I think that what Psalm 137 is talking about, brothers and sisters, is that the way by which the singers would not forget Jerusalem was that they would continue to practice the songs of Zion in the blazing conviction that one day they would return there.

  52. 29:28

    This Psalm is the passion and the drive and the commitment of the House of Asaph in captivity. It wasn’t that they wouldn’t sing the temple songs in a strange land, but they wouldn’t sing them for the public amusement of profane and scornful heathen. So in public, therefore, they showed that their singing was over and their harps abandoned.

  53. 29:57

    But in private they practiced like they always had, because they vowed in the Psalm that they never, ever would forget Jerusalem with their heart or their hand or their tongue. You see, this family never gave in, and they never gave up. And one day, one blessed day, the deliverer of their prayers appeared, and his name was Cyrus.

  54. 30:34

    And then Ezra chapter 1, we’re told of the great proclamation of Cyrus that would lead to a return of the Jewish people from captivity. And this is what we’re told in Ezra chapter 1 and reading from the second verse.

  55. 30:55

    Thus saith Cyrus, king of Persia. The Lord God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him in a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all His people? His God? Be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and build the House of Yahweh, God of Israel.

  56. 31:21

    Now Can you imagine, brothers and sisters, this phrase in the third verse utter than the proclamation of Cyrus? Can you imagine the impact of this phrase upon the House of Asaph in particular? Who is there of all His people that might, might respond to this call? Well, you just know that it would have to be the House of Asaph, wouldn’t you? That of all the families that would desire to go back to the land of Israel killer, to the place of the House of God and to the presence of God amongst his people, it would be the House of Asaph.

  57. 31:50

    So it is with no surprise then that when we come to Ezra chapter 2 and we read the list of the genealogy of those who returned in this first wave, this first return of the redeemed to Zion under Zerubbabel and Joshua. That in Ezra chapter 2 and verse 41 amongst those who came in this very first wave, it says the singers, the children of Asaph and 120 and 8. So this was the family, perhaps above all others who celebrated the spirit of Psalm 137 that they would never forget Jerusalem.

  58. 32:33

    Because when the when the chance first came to come back to the land, the House of ASA are there right at the front, right in the forefront. And that brings us you see to to Ezra chapter 3. Now just come and have a look at Ezra chapter 3 then, because here and there is the story in Ezra chapter 3 of the laying again of the foundation of the Temple. This was an exciting, exciting moment in the history of the nation.

  59. 32:58

    Now you see what the seventh verse says in Ezra chapter 3. It says that they gave money also unto the Masons and to the carpenters, and meat. Now that word meat, by the way, in verse 7 ought to be translated meal, shouldn’t it? It’s the word for meal. So it’s really to do with grain.

  60. 33:18

    So they gave grain and drink, and that drink is wine and oil unto them of Zeidan, and to them of Tyre, to bring cedar trees from Lebanon to the sea of Joppa. So what this first tells us is that they made arrangements to supply exports of grain, of wine and of oil in return for Cedars from Lebanon floated down to Joppa.

  61. 33:47

    Do you know where that all comes from? That is a deliberate reenactment of the days of Solomon. Now hold your hand in Ezra chapter 3 and come back to the Second of Chronicles chapter 2 because, well, this is what happened in the days of Solomon. You see, we’re told in the Second of Chronicles chapter 2. And then reading firstly from verse three, it says this here’s Solomon building the temple.

  62. 34:13

    And I think that you see in Ezra chapter 3 that those who had come back to the land deliberately did it this way that they might echo the days of Solomon. They wanted to recreate the golden age of Solomon all over again. Now in the second of Chronicles 2, verse three, it says, And Solomon sent to Hiram the king of Tyre, saying, As thou didst deal with David my father, and didst send him Cedars to build him an house to dwell therein, Even so dwell with me. And then in verse 2, verse 10, he he, he said that this is what he would be prepared to pay.

  63. 34:50

    Behold, I will give to thy servants the hewers that cut timber, 20,000 measures of beaten wheat and 20,000 measures of barley. So that’s the grain, and 20,000 baths of wine and 20,000 baths of oil. So there was an arrangement for the export of grain, of wine and of oil. In return for what?

  64. 35:22

    Well, in return for trees. And Hiram agreed. Because verse 15 says Now therefore the wheat and the barley, the oil and the wine which my Lord has spoken of, let him send unto his servants, and we will cut wood out of Lebanon as much as thou shalt need, and we will bring it to thee in floats. If I see so Joppa.

  65. 35:44

    Oh, now that’s the very language you see of Ezra chapter 3 and verse 7. And I think that what happened is when they came back to the land that they deliberately reenacted the story of Solomon. They wanted to recreate the temple as it was in its glory in earlier times. Come back to Ezra chapter 3 and and now read verse 8.

  66. 36:05

    So in Ezra chapter 3 and verse 8 it says now in the second year of their coming into the House of God at Jerusalem in the second month began Serababul and Jesua. And if we were to ask what was it that they began in the eighth verse, the answer is they began to lay the foundation of the temple. But when did they lay it?

  67. 36:30

    Well, the eighth verse says it was in the second month, but if you come back to the First of Kings chapter 6, you’ll find that that was the very month that Solomon began to build the temple. And I think that they chose this time deliberately. You see in the First of Kings chapter 6, we’re told in the first verse, it came to pass on the 480th year after the children of Israel would come out of the land of Egypt in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel in the month Ziff, which is the second month that he began to build the House of Yahweh, first of Kings 6, verse one. And not only that, but if you come to the very if you come to verse 37 of that chapter, first of Kings 6, verse 37, it says in the fourth year was the foundation of the House of Yahweh laid in the month Ziff.

  68. 37:29

    So the second month was the very month that Solomon laid the foundations of the temple. And now in Ezra chapter 3 and verse 8, Joshua and Zerubbel begin to lay the foundations of the temple in the second month. Oh yes, I think they knew exactly what they were doing on this occasion. Now come back to Ezra 3 and verse 10.

  69. 37:55

    And when the builders laid the foundation of the temple of Yahweh, they set the priests in their apparel with trumpets and the Levites, the sons of Asaph with symbols to praise Yahweh after the ordinance of David, King of Israel. And you see, what we’re being told in verse 10, I think, is that this was again exactly the same as it were in the day that the ark of God was taken in, in Solomon’s celebration.

  70. 38:28

    It’s all the same all over again. You see, the trumpeters are there, the singers are there, the instruments are there. They’re all clothed in the in the robes of linen. It’s exactly as if it’s Solomon’s day all over again. And yet of course, it wasn’t Solomon’s day and it was. Honestly, brothers and sisters, in the 10th verse of Ezra 3, really there is rending pathos to this particular scene on this occasion because as we looked about the hill on which they stood on the occasion of Ezra 3 and verse 10, the signs of desolation are everywhere.

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    The Temple Mount is still scarred and ravaged from Babylonian fire. That there, amidst the signs of ruin, embedded into the good earth of Mount Moriah, sunk into its rocky outcrop, was a row of freshly dressed stones, clean and sharp. That was the beginning of a new foundation for a new temple. And who’s there ready to sing the songs of the Lord? Verse 10.

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    Why the sons of Asaph? You notice, by the way, in the 10th verse it doesn’t mention either Heman or Judithan. There’s no record that either the sons of Heman or the sons of Judithan returned at this time. Only the sons of Asaph are there. You see, these are the ones, perhaps more than any others, who kept that burning flame of Psalm 137 alive. And look what it says in verse 11. They sang together by course.

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    Do you know that the Nehemiah Chapter 7, we’re told that when some of the priests came back to the land that they couldn’t prove their lineage, could they? And they were not able to establish what priestly course they belonged to? Do you remember that the sons of Asaph had no trouble with knowing what their course was? They were ready to sing in their courses after all this time without hesitation.

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    They knew exactly what their orders and their courses were, and they were ready to sing at the command of Joshua and Zerubbabel. And what are they sing? Verse 11? They sang together by course in praising and giving thanks. Also there there are two keywords. They praised and gave thanks, and you’d never believe, but the words of their song were brothers and sisters, would you? They gave thanks unto Yahweh because He is good for His mercy endureth forever toward Israel.

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    Why? That’s the first of Chronicles chapter 16 and this 34. You see, the foundation might be new brothers and sisters, but the singers who sang in front of that new foundation this day sang their old songs to the old words. They didn’t find them old fashioned. They found them absolutely fresh and new because they believed that they were singing eternal truths. Do you know that this episode and Ezra chapter 3, brothers and sisters?

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    Well, it’s 85 years after the time of Josiah in the Second of Chronicles 35. It’s 85 years later. This is BC 535, but it’s 460 years after David gave this Psalm to this family in the first of Chronicles 16, 460 years later, brothers and sisters, you know, we’re told on the occasion of this chapter that there were some who wept, some who wept because of the joy of building a new temple, some who wept because they remember the glories of the old.

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    I would have wept on that day, brothers and sisters, for a family who after 460 years could stand up and sing the same hymn for the same words, and never have forgotten it in their family through all those generations. And you see, this is the spirit of Psalm 137. They said, never let us forget those who said, raise it, raise it to the very foundations thereof.

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    And now in triumph they sing before a fresh foundation that arises upon the good earth. You see, they didn’t despise the day of small things. They were always there. At the time of a spiritual revival of brothers and sisters in the nation, the House of Asaph were there, ready to sing their ancient songs all over again.

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    You see, I think that this is the great lesson of our study this morning. It is the lesson of the virtue of constancy. The virtue of constancy is one of the great principles that the House of Asaph stood for. You know, we have hymns in our hymn book today that come from the Golden Harp. Now you know what the Golden Harp is. Golden Harp was the very first Christadelphian. The hymn book.

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    You know that we’ve still got hymns that we sing today from that first hymn book. I think that’s marvellous that we still sing according to the principles of our own ancient heritage. You know our hymn book, brothers and sisters, the Christadelphian Hymn book over the years. Well, it did borrow hymns from other sources, but I’ll tell you what, our earlier brethren that borrowed those hymns put them through a mighty fine sieve. And by the time they got through that soothe into our hymn book, the words and the spirit so utterly echoed what we believe, that we could sing that Psalm or that song and give a hearty Amen to the words.

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    It preserved the heritage of our faith, and we need to appreciate how vital a hymn book is in holding together a community to those principles that we believe in. You see this house, they never, ever once changed their hymns because they believed that the truths they sang were eternal. Will sow out our truths, brothers and sisters, and therefore we believe that we should treasure and value the hymn book that we have. Whenever I hear a brother or sister saying that they think the hymns are boring, I think there’s a problem. I think they haven’t discovered the true majesty and power of the scriptural record that will make those hymns come alive. But what I do know for certain is that the solution doesn’t lie in borrowing from modern Christian sources. And there is a bit of that in the Brotherhood today, isn’t there?

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    And increasing use of music from modern Christian sources. But the danger is that we may not use the same careful discriminating process that was used by earlier generations of Christadelphians, especially given the fact that modern Christian music is nothing other than pure humanism with a religious coat on. It’s nothing more than that.

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    It’s utterly different to the spirit of the truth. We need to be very careful, brothers and sisters, in terms of the source of our music. Now, I’m all for exploring new music and worship. I think it’s good, and we do, especially in our special evenings of of song and praise. But if the spirit of searching for new music is to replace our hymn book because we think it’s boring, then I’m passionately against new music if that’s the motive.

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    But if we want to sing other spiritual songs as well as treasure our hymn book, then I think that’s a wonderful thing. Our hymn book should remain the core of our spiritual worship. And that hymn book, in turn, ought to maintain the heritage of our faith and be the standard bearer for what we truly believe is proper music according to the benchmark of the House of Asaph.

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    You see, the spirit of today is we want something new. We want something new. The spirit of the House of Asaph was treasure. The old, treasure the old. It’s a different spirit, isn’t it? But you see, that spirit of that family is what kept them faithful down through all these years. You know, change sometimes can seem to be very small.

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    Such a little change here and there may seem to be harmless. The where the triumph of gradualism. It is by little changes, brothers and sisters, that our songs of worship might imperceptible be altered over time until our faith is lost, and we don’t ever want that to happen. So you watch for trends, you see, you watch for trends. And if the trend is towards an increasing focus on music at the expense of the words, then resist the trend and stay with those old and lovely things that we have sung as a community and that have kept us faithful as a brotherhood now for a long period of time.

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    Not as long, mind you, as the House of ASAP who managed to stay on the same hymn book without revision for an awful long period of time. The virtue of constancy. You see, the instruments of music were specially made by David for praising the Lord. It suggested that David received the pattern for these by the divine revelation, and that he received this in common with the pattern for all other instruments that were used for service in the temple.

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    They were known, therefore, as musical instruments of God. Later revivals of the temple worship did not deviate from this standard, and the songs of the Lord were still sung with the instruments of David, the man of God. In similar fashion. The words of these songs were jealously guarded by the House of Asaph.

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    The original Psalm delivered them, delivered to them by David. To sing became the center of their praise. It’s simple majesty, undimmed by centuries. It is reasonable to assume that just as both instrument and word did not vary, so also the music played remained unchanged throughout the centuries. I believe that brothers and sisters, I believe that when the House of Asaph sang their songs in Ezra Chapter 3, that they sang the same words played on the same instruments, sung to the same tune. They never, ever varied.

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    This faithful family. Well, brothers and sisters, they’re back in the land. They’ve come back. And there’s more to the story yet, because the story’s not quite finished. But as to what finally happened to the House of ASAP, well, we must wait until tomorrow to find out. Thank you for listening to the Good Christadelphian Talks podcast.

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