236: John Evans - A Soft Answer Turns Away Wrath

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   Welcome to Good Burger selfie and talks. I’m Levi and I’m Chris and I’m Brian, thank you for joining us this week. On this podcast, we select one taco week to help us get the Bible in our daily news feed. We post a new episode of the start of each week with a short intro before. Hand to kind of set the stage for the talk. You’re about to listen to and now let’s talk more about this week’s talk.

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   Welcome to the good. Chris Italian talks podcast, this is brother Brian. This week’s talk is a Class by Brother John Evans. That was given in 2016 at the teacher, Gully, Ecclesia The class is called a soft answer turns away wrath. And this is part. One of a two class series all about anger.

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   This was not a recommendation. This was actually a series that I was looking at myself because I feel like I struggle with having an anger problem. And I found it to be not only helpful to to myself, but good enough that I felt the community worldwide would benefit from hearing these classes brother.

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   John looks at how this tumultuous emotion has been used in a biblical sense, both by God and man and what are the key lessons that we can take away and I found that the more and more instances he kept going into as like oh man I forgot like yeah that’s a great story that deals with anger and that’s a great story that deals with anger.

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   One of the points that I appreciate, was he, he makes clear anger is not a sin. and anger in and of itself is not necessarily a problem, but the challenge for us, is preventing it from quickly becoming Wrath or something worse, he reminds us that Paul cautioned in Ephesians 4, be angry and sin.

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   Not. So that’s that’s our struggle to allow ourselves to be angry about things but have the mind of the spirit and not just react with the mind of the Flesh. And one of my favorite take away lines that I think brother, John for, is he He says anger is only one letter away from danger.

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   And such a good reminder that like, you know, if we ignore the warning signs, if we ignore the cues that our bodies giving us, we very quickly can move from being angry into being in a dangerous situation, with our words, with our actions. So I found that between the two classes, there’s just lots of great practical gems regarding dealing with anger within our families anger. With our young children frustration within our colleges and a really think would benefit everyone to hear how this can be approached from a biblical sense. so, as always, We hope this strengthens your faith and brightens your day. Brother.

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   John Evans, a soft answer turns away wrath, thank you for the German good evening. My brother and sisters in young people. It’s wonderful to have an opportunities and it during the middle of a busy week to stop and to consider the word of God. It’s what we do every Wednesday night and we have a opportunity to open the word and to let the word speak to us. And the challenge of course, of any Bible study is to see how do we make that apply to ourselves.

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   It can be very interesting, it can be very academically challenging but of course if it’s not going to affect us in our daily life then it’s just those two things academic or interesting, the word of God of course has the power to change the inner man as we know and our aim is to look at tonight.

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    An interesting subject that of a soft answer turns away wrath. That’s our overall title. What really going to look Tonight is the challenge that we Face a lot of in this world today around about us and the challenge for ourselves of being angry about things. We live in an evil world. I don’t need to tell you that, we look at the news, we see what’s happening in the world around about us.

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    We see the challenges in the occlusal environment that we dwell in. We seem to be facing an avalanche of decline in the world outside, people challenging everything that’s been ever conceived to be holy or righteous as God except for that his word, the Bible.

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    Society calls. Evil good and good evil. And we know that means we’re in the time of the end. And of course, we’ve seen Russia just recently move itself into the, into the Middle East Theater, which is very exciting for us. As we witness the current events. We see men are artists who are covered us. An evil man who had Godless and all they were interested in is themselves.

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    And of course, we recognize that as a disciple and follower of Christ, that’s not the way, we should conduct ourselves in our daily life and I believe, brother and sisters were not participating in the Covetous evil things that are happening in the world around about us. We tend to stand aside from that and say, no, that’s not something we should be involved in. But we live in a very angry world, you know, a common term, you’ll hear is that people have short fuses. What’s that mean?

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    It means doesn’t take much in the explode, people in the workplace people in the school place. People just seem to have a lot of anger, you know, the term today which wasn’t around probably 40 years ago called road rage 40 years ago. They probably weren’t enough cars going up and down the road out there for anyone to get cross with each other. And now there’s a term now and is road rage. What is it?

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    It’s really just anger and people unable to contain their anger who then beat their horns. Jump out of cars will do worse things and that to each other. It’s a world we live in where anger is seen. Before us all the time, we see it in our political leaders, they slog it out in Parliament.

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    We see it in the things that we witness around about us and I think all of us would say is Brethren sisters of our law. That that’s not the way we ought to behave. Yet of all the issues that challenges perhaps his Brethren and sisters. And sometimes we graduate things. Don’t we say?

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    Well, this is a really bad thing. We don’t want to be involved in this murders or robberies or theft. How do we graduate our relationship with each other and our ability to get very angry with each other, perhaps we can think. Well, that’s not so bad. Well what we’d like to do tonight is to look at the perspective, our heavenly father and say, is that bad or not? Because I think that’s one of the great challenges for all of us in these last days how we interact with each other and how we let that affect us, So what we want to look at tonight is is probably four points.

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    We want to look at what anger is. We want to say, where does it come from? What is this Spirit of being angry? Then man. Exhibits. How does God view, anger? And then we look at some scriptural examples of bad anger and surprisingly good anger. Am I find that surprising but bear with us because you’re going to see some examples where anger is used very positively in the scripture. So if we went to look up about anger, what will we do? We grab a dictionary off-the-shelf, we look up the word anger, and if we picked up an order, a dictionary would read this.

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    It’s a feeling of great annoyance or antagonism as a result of some real, or supposed grievance, Rage or Roth. That’s your standard English dictionary. Let’s pull off a Bible. Victory off a shelf though. And say what’s the word anger got to do with, with the scriptures. And we read in the Old Testament, the translation of several Hebrew words, especially that of off. Literally means the nostril or the countenance. When we get to the New Testament, the word only occurs four times in the New Testament.

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    That’s the word anger. But it’s place is taken by the word Roth, which we see on multiple occasions in the New Testament. So we’ve got the opportunity to open God’s word and see him talking about anger. And to see how it affects our Brethren and sisters, those who have gone before us, and the way that they were affected by this emotion of anger. Well, the first question was where does human anger come from?

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    What we’re going to do tonight because we look at a lot of scripture and pick out bits and pieces we go what I’d like to do is to say be nice if we could get this thing to work.

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    From the bottom. How about James you can we make this work? Because we’ve got to get through a fair bit of. Here we go.

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    Here we go. Don’t ever panic and whatever you do. Don’t get angry. Okay, I’m not getting angry. Okay, James, thank you. I’ll just get James to have a look at that for us. Let’s turn up in our Bible, Matthew 15:19. What we’re going to do is use PowerPoint to get through a lot of quotes tonight but Matthew 15:19 and we know this quiet very well. Thank you very much, James.

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    Lucky, no one got angry. Good, Matthew 15 verse 19. What do we read for out of the heart? Proceed evil. Thoughts murders adulteries, fornications thefts, false witness, Nice to meet you. Where’s that all come from? Well, of course we know the Lord tells us it comes from with a man within a man comes out of his heart. What else do we know from scripture? Well, we know that the heart of man is deceitful, Jeremiah 17 verse 9.

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    You may want to take notes. If you want to copy afterwards please come and see me. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it. Now, we know these quotes, we put them up at a lecture. When we talked new interested friends about the fact that, yep, man is not in only good, but rather, he actually deviates or Falls over towards sin. Those quotes prove that for us so anger comes from within us, it’s an emotion.

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    How do we let it affect us and what do we know about, God, and anger? Well, we know God’s holy we know that he can’t look upon sin. But we also know, when we come back to Exodus 34:6, we find a lot out about his character, don’t we? And we look at this with a young people. We talked about the character of Yahweh and we find it described for us because he says to Moses.

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    This is my character and he said he’s gracious. Merciful long-suffering abundant in goodness and Truth. However he keeps Mercy for thousands forgiving iniquity, transgression and sin but will by no means clear. The guilty visiting the iniquity of the father’s upon the children. Children and upon the children’s children unto the third and fourth generation, what have we got? Was we say to people it’s a balance, isn’t it? He’s got Justice and mercy and it’s perfectly balanced. Their heavenly father, is it perfectly balanced and US brothers and sisters.

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    Will, of course not. We know that God’s consistent. He’s consistent, he’s reliable, he’s predictable. You know, how he’s going to react to any situation because he said he was affording the word and said, this is how I operate. This is what I think this is what I do, he is consistent, but what else do we know about him?

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    Let’s turn over to the New Testament. First John 4:8 and we read together, he that loveth not knoweth not God for God is love. Remember what we said we’ve got Justice and we’ve got Mercy, the principles that he stands for, he won’t change but his ability to show Mercy to those who wish to repent. They’re the two characteristics of our loving Heavenly Father. It’s a central part of his being those two welded together. Do you know what?

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    We don’t read. We never read anywhere in Scripture. That God is anger. We read that God is love. We don’t read got his anger. Why is that? That’s an emotion that he exhibits but at the core of his buried, very being God is love and he’s prepared to exhibit that to those who want to worship and come before him. So if you got your, your Strong’s out, you looked up the word anger or its derivatives and you said, okay, how many times does this word occur in the Bible? Well, in the Old Testament, as we saw it occurs, many times, it actually occurs 455 times.

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    So, 450 5 times the word anger occurs in the Old Testament. Do you know what I found? Amazing, out of those four hundred and fifty five times, three hundred and seventy five of those times, relate to go away. He’s angry, he’s Roth, he’s annoyed. Look at that. Psalm 7 verse 11. He says God, judges the righteous and God is angry with the wicked every day. He’s angry with the wicked.

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    He’s angry with the nation’s, he’s angry with Israel when they turn their back on him. CC anger is a Divine emotion that dwells within got. He tells us these angry about things was. He angry about his angry about challenge to his Holiness and his righteousness, and he’s not going to tolerate it and because he is holy and righteous, but because he is merciful, he welds those two characteristics together, doesn’t he? His Holiness stands against in?

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    He won’t tolerate that But his Mercy seeks those who wish to come before him and to serve him, he seeks to be able to provide a way for that to happen. So all of God’s laws as we know are based upon his Holiness and his mercy and I’m not telling you anything, you don’t already know. How does that affect us when we come to look at the situation of God’s ability to deal with anger? Well, in Deuteronomy chapter 13 and verse 15. And 16, we see Moses recounting, what you always said? He said, look, I’ve set before you this day. Life and good and death and evil. You’ve got to challenge life and death, good and evil. And it’s that constant challenge, isn’t it? We’re going to serve God, are we going to serve ourselves? And the messages go forward, serve God. Because if you do, he’ll be merciful, he will be gracious. He is consistent.

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    He is predictable. He is reliable. He doesn’t change. And so therefore if you follow this pattern which is serving him he will recognize that and be merciful unto you if you choose not to well, his anger is shown to those who choose not to follow his principles and he’s very righteous in his anger. So God’s justice and his righteousness stimulates his anger, he looks at a situation says that’s wrong. That challenge is my Holiness and I won’t tolerate that. What about we come to the New Testament? Well, of course we got the Lord.

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    Jesus Christ. What did he say? If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the father and how did he witness that? Well, he did that his life, didn’t he? And so, a couple of quotes we’ll look at in a minute. Mark 3 John 2 examples of Our Lord showing anger or Roth. We know he never sinned.

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    So we know Christ, never sinned. And yet he shows anger or Roth. And we can struggle with that brother and sisters and young people. We can think of ourselves. How do we put that together? Because so often, when we get angry, very quickly switches from anger to Us actually speaking in advisory with our lips or acting in advisor.

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    Li how did the Lord Do It? Well, I guess the challenge is to think, first of all, what what makes us get angry? What drives us to become angry? Well, nabal. Sorry, not Nathan came to David, didn’t he? After the tragic events that have Bathsheba and Nathan came with a parable second Samuel, chapter 12 and, you know, the story very well and he came and he spoke about the fact that a rich man had a huge flocks and there was one poor man, had a little ewe lamb. He cared for that lamb and he loved it and that lamb loved him.

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    And Along came a rich man, and he sent someone to get, hold of that lamb. Bring it back and let’s barbecue that for my visitor. What’s David say? A look at that verse for verse the bottom on there, David and David’s anger was greatly kindled against them and he said to Nathan. As Yahweh liveth the man that has done this thing shall surely die.

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    What happened in David? Do you know the sheer Injustice, the she wickedness of what had happened in this story. That was being portrayed to him, fired up within David a feeling of justice, and, right? And he said that man’s Gotta Die. I’m not going to tolerate that my kingdom. I will stand for justice and right and his anger was killed with Kindle within him so that sheer Injustice aroused within David, the action to do something. Now as we know, first of all, he was overreacting to the situation.

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    Secondly, tragedy is about to find out. Actually it’s a parable and it’s all about you David. However, David was a man after God’s Own Heart and what he saw that sheer Injustice. He said no I’ll act about that. The evil of the situation, made him act. And a creator with him anger and it made something happen, you know, we’re going to find brother and sisters throughout scripture that God works with people who show real anger will come back to our reading that Matt read for us tonight, Jonah for unusual reading perhaps until look at the subject in it.

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    God works with people who show some amazing attributes as far as anger. Okay, question for all of us. Try to remember the last time that you experience anger and ask yourself the question, why did I get angry? If you can sit there honestly and say, I can’t remember myself, personally don’t look around and see is I remember that brother got angry and my husband got angry, or my wife.

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    Got angry and my kids getting on it. You, it was the last time you got angry about an incident, if you can’t remember check your pulse, no, not really. If you can’t remember drive it harder or you’re in a marvelous category, but it’s likely your answer was somewhere in your answer. You will mention some injustice, something that was Inequitable something that really annoyed you because that just isn’t fair that shouldn’t happen to somebody or something those incidents just they challenge what is right and wrong. And you might have directed your anger, against a person or against an object, or even Brethren sisters against God. Now, please note, we are not discussing, whether your perception of wrong is valid or invalid. It’s not what I’m asking you.

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    We’ll talk about that later on what I’m just saying. Think about the last time you got angry and was it because someone made you angry, was it? Something that happened. Let’s have a look in scripture for some examples of people who went down that path. First of all, a person a person who got very, very angry with tragic consequences.

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    Genesis for Cain and Abel to Brethren to Brethren, who decided that one was going to follow the ways of Yahweh and the other one was going to do what he wanted to do. What happens but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect and Cain was very wroth and his countenance fell.

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    What it came. Think it happened well, he actually felt slighted by able, didn’t he? He thought that able have gone out of his way to make it example of Cain and came toward upon that and we don’t know what the time frame was, whether it was days hours, weeks months. But he dwelled upon that. And what was the outcome?

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    The outcome was he actually killed his brother? If you want to know where anger left unchecked can end up your reading in Genesis chapter 4, you let that run and you’ll kill your brother and maybe you won’t kill your brother physically while whacking him. Over the head with a big stick, your brother might leave the truth because of the things you do or say to him because you’re angry with him.

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    So we challenge that we there’s someone who’s angry about a person would have been an object. Oh, come on John. You say no one gets angry at an object. What would you get angry in an object. Remember Balaam. And he wrote his little donkey to get that house full of gold and silver, and his whole Focus was on that.

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    And his silly little donkey wouldn’t go where he wanted. So what happened? Well, he wouldn’t go into the angel, you know, this story with no heard it from Sunday school lessons, but what really happened, what really happens is Balaam jumps off the ass and his anger was kindled, and he gets his stuff and he whacks his poor donkey the ass and he lays into the donkey, that’s an object and we go the foolishness of the prophet. Brethren ever had your lawn mower. Not start the Saturday morning.

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    And thought boy, this is really annoys me or maybe maybe something like a computer. It’s in and out of it object with bits of wire and a bit of glass and I don’t know what’s in there. No idea. But sometimes it doesn’t do what you want. Does it? Have you ever got angry at your computer and we laughed everything?

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    All people wouldn’t get angry at donkey. How silly is that ever? Whack your computer hoping to make it work or shout it? Shout it at your computer or your lawnmower but your sewing machine or whatever it is you’re angry at an object. It’s pointless. Except the aspect about Denis because God was in control.

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    Perhaps, we’re starting to see that. Hmm, maybe some of their Brethren and those in the scriptures, do have same challenges that we have. What, about angry at God? Turn to the reading that Matt did for us in Jonah, chapter 4, and unusual reading, probably for a class it’s often challenged the sister we get to the end of Jonah and this is what we find.

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    Here’s an example of a brother who was obviously God-fearing and godly. He went out to do the work of God. He was a prophet he went and did what he was told to do what happens? He he saves Nineveh. And what’s the result? He is extremely angry about that. Who’s he angry with? He’s angry with God.

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    You know, Jonah for should be a celebration chapter at least 120 thousand. People got saved. What do we know? God is not willing that any should perish? He saved at least a hundred and twenty thousand people and what’s Jonah? Say you’re wrong. And I’m I’m mad at you. I’m so angry about the way you’ve dealt with this situation. Look at it, if you cut it, in the words, very angry verse 1, but it displease Jonah exceedingly. He was very angry.

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    God says, do what are you angry about? He says, well denied, this was my saying, I told you in my country. Therefore, I fled Tasha’s for. I knew that they were gracious and merciful and slow to anger. Oh, we’ve already seen that. Heavenly God is absolutely predictable and reliable. He doesn’t change and Jonas, and I know you don’t change. Engine.

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    Because of that, these people have been saved. Because his, you’re angry. Yeah. And then he ends up with a good, doesn’t he? And he sits under a GERD. And the good guys and what happens to China? He’s angry again. God says, to him, do you be do well to be angry and Jonah said, yeah, I’m doing well, to be angry.

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    I’m very angry about what’s happened in my life. But let’s stop for a minute. Think about why did Nineveh repented are? Because it was in the plan of purpose of Yahweh? Yes, that’s true. What happened? What drove them to repent? A man going through the city with a message forty days and Nineveh destroyed. Oh, that was a catalyst to it.

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    Let’s have a look at what actually it says, in chapter 3 and verse verse 9, this is the king talking in the leaders saying and who can tell, if God will turn and repent from his away from his Fierce anger that we perish. Not, here’s a gentile nation of non-believers ago. Hang on a minute. In this is Israel’s God.

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    He has a fierce anger. If we choose not to obey him, we know what that Fierce anger will do. It will destroy us 40 days and we’re gone. And they listen to that. And what happened? Verse 10 and God saw their works. And they that they turn from their evil ways and God repent of the evil that he had said, he would do unto them.

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    And he did it. Not God, repented did Jonah have a right to be angry? Well, he certainly thought he did. He’s prepared to challenge the Almighty. Is it will go head-to-head with his messenger and say. Yep, absolutely. I’ve got a right to be angry. He was very, very clear because he expresses to God, how angry is actually actually is, and what was his problem? He saw that.

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    God had conducted, a great Injustice upon him. You did listen to me. I told you this would happen upon his Nation, they’re going to come down and Destroy Israel, all of which were true in time. And we’d sit here in this Hall tonight and go with Jonah was wrong. That was clearly. That was wrong.

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    He didn’t understand God, Brethren and sisters and when we sit down and think about ourselves, if we ever got that angry, do we sometimes use language like Jonah? Oh, perhaps, we’re not brave enough to actually speak it out loud. But if you ever thought that and perhaps, towards God situation has happened in your life, and you think that’s just not fair. I’ve done this and this and this God, where are you? What’s this happened?

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    Why is this going on? Perhaps we haven’t said it. Absolutely. As Brave as Jonah, but I’m sure probably at some stage. All of us have thought thoughts like that can get? It was yahweh’s anger that led to them to repent because we saw he gave him the warning. If you don’t repent or destroy you.

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    They’re fierce anger was with the thing that they were terrified of and they dealt with it. God’s anger brought a better response that he designed. He wanted to see that happen and it happened. What if are anger brother and sisters could be used to the same effect? What if we could actually make a positive use of her anger? Because, as we said, when we started anger is an emotion The challenge for every one of us is what Paul wrote to the Ephesians where he said, be angry and sin.

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    Not and the challenge for us and we’d like to spend some time tonight. Looking at is okay, we can be angry about it. Injustice, how do we not sin? How do we actually work our way through that? That challenge I said, we’d look at the example of the Lord. Jesus Christ. Here’s some examples.

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    When he went into the, into the temple, you know, this and he drove out those were selling oxen and sheep. Why? Because you’ve turned my father’s House into a house of merchandise and he drove them out. Take these things. Hence he says, look at the end of that, his disciples remembered that it was written the Zeal of thine house.

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    Hath eaten me up The disciples saw the anger of their master and attributed that for a deep concern for his father’s house, they knew him then. Spent time with him, they didn’t just go, oh, he’s had a bad day. He’s got out of bed on the wrong side and I don’t mean that flippantly.

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    Sometimes we do with each other, we got having a bad day. No, they said this is the Zeal of these father’s house. He’s making a stand on behalf of his father because he knows what this house stands for and he knows it. Turning into a Marketplace is wrong.

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    There was another occasion, he’s in a synagogue, you know it? Well as a man with a withered hand and the Pharisees set him up right at the very front and they challenged Christ as to whether you’re going to heal this man or not. What’s he say? Mark chapter 3 verse 4 and 5 it says, Under them. Is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath days or do evil to save life?

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    What he killed but they held their peace. And when he looked around upon them with anger being grieved for the hardness of their hearts. He said to the man stretch forth his hand and we know he healed him. But look, what happened? He was angry, why was he angry? Because those evil men were prepared to take a poor individual like this man subject him to ridicule and and mocking, put him right in front of the Lord. Jesus Christ.

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    Why? Because they want to try and catch a man and he said you’re evil that’s wicked what you’re doing and he was angry. Because the Injustice that whole event struck our Lord was a desperate need for that man to be healed and all those in that room would say, well, see if you will or not because it’s a Sabbath day.

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    Brought about an angry response in our Lord and I brought about a scripture response and it brought about a healing of a man. You know, anger, you could describe anger. As a big red flashing light on the dashboard of Life. What is it? It’s a light that flashes. It’s saying something is in just something is wrong. It goes off from time to time in our life and we look around things, occasionally in a place of employment, and we go, that’s not fair.

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    That’s in, just that challenges, you always Holiness. It’s just the big light. It’s flashing to us challenge for us, brothers, and sisters, is what do we do? Because anger can be a very powerful motivator to move us towards doing something positive and right to do something, which will uphold yahweh’s Holiness to correct an injustice like David and the rich man. For example.

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    David just didn’t gawa. Send the poor man. Another lamb. No, then just as of what had just happened struck him and he said I want to do with that.

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    But I tell you what, brother and sisters we need to be particularly careful because of this angers only one letter short of danger. You have seen those signs. They put them over deep holes, they put them on building sites. Danger, do not enter danger, danger danger. You know what? When we start to let that big red, light of anger, flashing our on our dashboard as it were of life. We’ve got to be very careful because we’re actually one step away from danger.

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    We actually can very easily sin, and our reaction can be anything, but Godly We can forget about what God would do. We consider get forget about what our Lord Jesus Christ has done, and we can end up making things a whole lot worse, because we have allowed anger to drive us forward. So, the challenge tonight is, how do we process anger in a spiritual way and actually make it positive.

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    We’ve looked at Cain and Abel. That was a disaster. We looked at Jonah and God not, not a good place to be. We’ve looked at table, dr. David David, and Nathan. And we saw how that interacted the rich man and what happened in David’s life. You know, all those three people came. Jonah and David all felt angry towards the same object. You know what it was.

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    Someone else. They’re not angry with themselves, they’re not beating themselves up, they’re angry with someone else. The challenge for this is this. As we look at the subject, it’s really easy to break it back to being purely theoretical, analytical, pull it apart. The challenge, for all of us is how do we relate in our relationships, our interpersonal relationships, our husbands, our wives, our children, our parents, our Ecclesia, our Brethren and sisters. And of course, it doesn’t, just stay. There goes out into our work place, or a place of study. How do we react in the ongoing relationships? We have What do we need to do first, when we get angry that big red light goes off in our head and we get angry, what’s the first thing we need to do?

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    You know what you need to do? You need to consciously acknowledge to yourself that you’re angry. You go off. Seriously, John like one. Look at me. I look in the mirror. Everyone can see how angry my ears have gone red. I’m angry. Oh no. You need to stop. And actually acknowledged for yourself and say I’m angry because you need to ask yourself the question. What’s happening to me, you know, anger can hit us that fast like that.

79. 31:59

    Someone tells you something like that, you’re angry. You’ve built up a head of steam as it were and you’ve got a real anger and of course because we think fast and act fast we tend to speak Farsi you open your mouth and outcomes exactly what you’re thinking about that NS. We’re always busy framing the response. We’re going to give to the brother or the work made or whoever it is.

80. 32:22

    We haven’t stopped. We haven’t listened. We haven’t thought through the fact we’re angry. You know what we are far more likely to make a very positive response to anger if we recognize what’s happening. inside our head Wow, I’ve just got angry. Okay now I’ve got some choices to make.

81. 32:44

    Paul said be angry and sin not that’s the challenge and that’s our goal. We want to try and work to that. So as we said before anger isn’t seen it can’t be the Lord Jesus Christ showed anger yet. He never sinned anger is not sin when you become angry. You’ve got to say okay stop for a minute. What’s happening to me?

82. 33:00

    I’m becoming angry challenge was never don’t get angry challenge Paul gave the Ephesians is don’t see him. Well, I’m because the wrath of man worketh not. The righteousness of God is James tells us in chapter 1 and verse 9 could be pretty careful over this. So, how do I respond to my anger?

83. 33:18

    So that my actions will be constructive and in his spiritual, vain well. Step number one, we need to acknowledge her angry. If you don’t ever give you self the time to think. Actually, I’m angry about this, you’ve just launched straight into stage two, which may be constructive. Usually, it’s destructive because you’ve allowed yourself to think, right?

84. 33:37

    I need sort this problem out. I need to sort out right now. So it’s about restraining our immediate response. And from there, there’s two usual patterns, which we can follow. Once we’re angry and everyone tends to follow them. And neither of them are very useful to a disciple, a follower of Lord Jesus Christ.

85. 33:57

    But look at the wild Ranger, look how people respond to being angry, they respond with either number one verbal or physical venting. You’re a complete idiot or worse and they know some very horrible language or worst case they thump somebody. So I’ve responded, I’m angry bang on. Fixed it thumb. You’ve got thumped. that’s not the way any discipling Christ wishes to conduct themselves, but acknowledge that What’s the second option you’ve got? Well I withdraw, I’ll say nothing. I’ll just suck it all in and just bear it and be silent. That’s not very helpful either.

86. 34:38

    We’ll see why in a minute, you know, we need to be able to restrain our human nature. We don’t need to fire off an answer. We need to just stop and think for a minute that’s not the same as storing anger.

87. 34:53

    It’s refusing to take the action, which would come naturally to us, which is give the person a piece of our mind and often, when we really angry is not the time to give a piece of your mind away, you’re going to need all the mind you’ve got, don’t start throwing that around the place, just stop and think.

88. 35:08

    What happens? Well, you know what are we trying to do? We’re trying to stop that natural reaction. Hi, John never never experienced it. Give us an example. Sure, I’ll share an example with your 30 years ago. Don’t even bother trying to work out who it is. It’s really quite funny. We do the marriage seminars and sister came up afterwards and said, I really enjoyed that.

89. 35:28

    I tried very hard to work out who all the people when you’re talking about serious, that’s not the point of the example. I’m driving down the street and I see a brother jumping into his castle. Give them a beep. Maybe I shouldn’t beat him and out of the window. Comes this as he turns his head a quickly became this.

90. 35:45

    He saw who he was shaking his fist at. You see the natural reaction was to shake his fist. Maybe I shouldn’t have been. No, I was just saying hi. Maybe he always says hi to people by shaking his fist at them. Which automatically became the hand. The natural response was I

91. 35:59

    right? It’s about being able to manage our natural responses because the natural man is worth nothing to us. In our spiritual senses. It, it’s about being able to think through and say, what are we going to do? Let’s go back to scripture. Proverbs Solomon, says 29:11 to fall out with all his mind, but a wise man, keep it into afterwards.

92. 36:21

    Now someone tells you something, someone upsets you and a fool. Just goes where and how it all comes. Thomas is that’s not a wise man. Wise me thinks it through, doesn’t mean. He’s gone to sleep, doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. He’s just he’s thinking that through brother translation of that says, a full gives vent to his anger but a wise man keeps himself under control, it really is self control. What about this?

93. 36:47

    The discretion of a man defers his anger and His glory to pass over a transgression or another translation insightful people restrain their anger My you insightful, am I can you see where this is going to leave? If I had down this path is would be what may happen historically. When I react like this, this is what happened. People end up in tears.

94. 37:06

    Things, go wrong. I’ll be a bit smarter than that. The writer of Proverbs is saying, yeah, just Settle he that is soon. Angry deal with foolishly. Yes, you hear things in life, that make you very ill, make you very unhappy, you need to be to take that on board and think that through because you know what, our Heavenly father’s watching and seeing things that make him extremely angry unhappy and he will deal with it. so what I’m being told to do think before we open our mouth, you know, there’s a Monumental speech that was given by an individual in scripture.

95. 37:48

    Monumental I think you probably could could think it through it last for about one verse. Jonathan speaks to his father Saul and says you are have got David completely wrong and Saul who was not known for holding back launched with this dissertation. Upon Jonathan pain Jonathan’s mother. His wife and saw his anger was kindled against Jonathan. He said to him, thou son of a perverse rebellious woman, do not.

96. 38:15

    I know those chosen. The son of Jesse to thine own confusion under the confusion, a mother’s nakedness. What a magnificent speech that deliver not. Why? Because it does not a spiritual bone in the man’s body but he just launched with an attack. Someone once wrote speak, when you are angry and you will make the best speech that you’ll ever live to regret.

97. 38:36

    And this means gone down in history preserved, in the word of God has been a god less and be that’s one of his great speeches. Because he got angry, he did Think Through the situation. And he was prepared to challenge. Jonathan and we know what happened, not only destroy his own family, he lost he lost the kingdom. He lost the respect of his son because when you are starting to dish out language like that, you’re not in a very good space, spiritually.

98. 39:09

    And I think we all acknowledge that. Sometimes we do say things in a flash of anger later. We regret it. Unfortunately, you can’t erase it. Saul’s writings there, therefore for anyone to read 4,000 years later, he can’t arrays that. You might think, yeah. But I only said that to brother, you know what that person might forgive you, but that hurt that you’ve done might last a lifetime.

99. 39:34

    Be careful what we say to each other. Sometimes, you hear? Someone say I didn’t mean to say that. You know what? You’d be more honest to say. Actually, I wished I hadn’t said it, you meant to say your brain, thought it your mouth engage. You said it. Really what you say is? I wished I hadn’t said that and he part of processing anger.

100. 39:50

     It’s about to be able to break that and say, yeah, I’m not going down that path. Why? Because we know the tongues that little member which causes so much trouble for all of us. So oh, if someone says to you, well, that’s fine for him. But I can’t control my anger, just the way I am. It’s my upbringing.

101. 40:09

     It’s my just genetic. Predisposition, this is how I am. There’s nothing I can do about it and I just lose it. And that’s how it is. Should say sorry. Should say sorry them, because they’re in put themselves in magnificent company with people like Saul, who didn’t have a Godly bone in their body.

102. 40:24

     You see, we can change the word of God can change. It’s not an excuse to say that’s how I am genetically. That’s how I am. All Jonathan. Saul’s son, you find Jonathan firing off Rockets like that. Not recorded for us, suggest you add that, he didn’t speak like that. You see, we can make changes if we want to, once you begin, an explosion is very hard to pull it back in. Again once that lava of the volcano’s going, you can’t really just put it all back together. It’s pretty hard to get back together. So what do you need to do?

103. 40:52

     You need to think about it. You know, I don’t know about you. My mother said to me once look, just if you’re angry count to 10, That didn’t work. So I had to learn to count to 100 and 1000, then I think my sister said, you better learn to count to ten thousand.

104. 41:05

     No. But seriously, you know what? We’ve all got a different trigger points. But we will say, hey if it takes counting to ten as this calmly, think this through, or if it’s 100, do it rather have an explosion because a long delay, make well that volcano that’s going to explode within you. And it’s much better not to have an explosion because once you’ve done it you it’s difficult to put back together. We’ve seen it, the problems of said, don’t seem with our lips. We need to be circumspect in the things that you say, why does it matter?

105. 41:35

     Well, he that slow to anger is better than the mighty and he, that rule is spirit and he had taken the city. It doesn’t say he who doesn’t have anger, is better known on says he that slow to anger. Actually, if it’s used in a Godly sense, can help you to clearly see issues.

106. 41:52

     Now. What happens then to someone like David and Jonathan sorry Saul and Jonathan is our that was learned behavior. He will know, it didn’t follow through, Jonathan didn’t follow that. Knees life someone says well it’s a challenge though, that’s how I always react. I’m the marrying brother from Enfield most of you know that there was a group of marine Brethren and their wives who got together a couple of years ago now and there was a couple of nights put on at the Hyde Park hall, for just the Marine Brethren their wives and the subject subject didn’t really matter.

107. 42:27

     As I outside speaker, who came and spoke, his name is Martin guarantee. If you ever get a chance to hear him, his very good, but he spoke about the fact that communication and listening and hearing, and those sort of things, we build a rapport with this gentleman and wasn’t a crispy too often, but over a period, Period of nights.

108. 42:42

     We’ve got to know him. And one night I said and his background was he dealt with extremely troubled youth, who did very violent things and he was trained as a, as a specialist in that work, for that for 25 years, which probably do your head in, but he said this, he said, you know, anyone got any questions as yeah, we got a commission that there’s a brother, I know and he gets very angry.

109. 43:03

     He gets very angry with his family and his storm out of the house and we’ll do this. He said stop. Stop chomping at ask you two questions. I want straight honest. Answers it. Go ahead. Martin. He said when he’s pushing his trolley through a war shopping center. He’s going down the aisle and someone cuts his trolley off. Does he just ran his trolley into the baked bean display and bring the whole thing to the ground. And then, run over to the jam, I’ll in the coffee, I’ll extend both arms and run down the whole, passage pulling, all the glass jars onto the ground.

110. 43:29

     No, no man. I don’t think he’s ever done that. Right. Second question in your community or your church. Yep, if he doesn’t something goes wrong. Does he rip up his Bible? Throw the hymn book at someone allowing the ground. Swearing, I said, no mr. My knowledge has never done that either he said right then he’s got a behavioral problem, not a mental problem.

111. 43:49

     He said, please understand the difference. A mental problem is and we meet them. Poor people who have a mental issue in their brain, they can’t digest what’s right and wrong in the situation. It’s a very small percentage. He’s got a behavior problem because in the world were shopping center, he doesn’t destroy things. When it doesn’t go his way in your community. He doesn’t do it.

112. 44:09

     But at home, he doesn’t get his own way. He just Chuck’s a full-on wobbly. That’s behavioural. You need to call it for what it is. You can change that. And it struck me off it. Yeah, that’s why we spend time around the word of God because we can change it. And yes, sadly, there might be. Someone is Afflicted with a mental illness. Most of us aren’t reflected with human nature and sometimes we like to hide behind that.

113. 44:33

     So we need to look at why we really angry. What does that mean? Sorry. In our personal relationships. I don’t know about you. I can’t remember the last shouting matching in food hall or the last punch up in the car park and neither should there ever be one. You might have them here regularly but I doubt it you see because good nature and good manners dictate their way. We speak to each other when we were in a community like this is proper and correct challenge for us. All is how do we interact at home? When our front doors closed?

114. 45:01

     How do we interact with our children? How do we interact with our wife or a husband or our parents? If you’re a young person That’s where you really going to say. Yes, I am living these principles or no, I’m not. Because good manners dictate, you’re not really going to have a fit here at the hall. And that’s the challenge for us to Think Through, isn’t it? Okay, so we’ve said, we’ve got to try and temporary automatic response.

115. 45:24

     We also need to think through an issue as to why we angry is the real issue. What’s in front of us? Just a while were angry or not. Example, I’m mowing the lawn on Saturday morning if this were true and to just to defend my two sons, let’s just use this for an example.

116. 45:36

     I’m mowing the lawn on, on a Saturday morning, at 11:00 in the morning and I am really angry. I’m mowing the lawn. Actually Laura Ingraham angle or I’m angry because my two boys are sound asleep in bed by 11:00 on a Saturday morning and my dad would never let me do that. And I’ve failed as a father because I can’t get him out of it. You see what’s happened.

117. 45:51

     I’m actually upset about my boys. It’s nothing to do with mowing the lawn. But if you ask me, why you upset, I’m upset because I’m mowing the lawn. No you’re not. Sometimes we need to step back and say what are we really upset about? What’s really got us angry. What’s driving? Our feelings is on this particular case. And also we need to be a scalar, you know, we’re on a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is.

118. 46:14

     Yeah. Who cares and 10 is World War 3? If it’s up to 10 and you need to sit back and think it through if it’s a number one, perhaps the whole world doesn’t care what you think about everything, okay so we’ve now stop to think about things. What do we do then? Well we can launch but song as a retard assets foolish a wise man keeps his counselor thinks through the issues.

119. 46:34

     He says yeah I’m not just going to deliver my whole thinking on this here. I think through what’s happening. You know, there’s two options for a disciple of Christ. We’ve only got two really. As I see it, I’m happy to have a discussion afterwards. The world’s got more actually go back to the Old Testament, you know, quite Ephesians 4, be angry and sin.

120. 46:53

     Not know if you know where that comes from its picked up out of some for and it’s actually working from the incident of David fleeing from Absalom second Samuel. 16 he’s going down there cigar butt of the Hill. If you remember she may I comes out and curses him in the most filthy way. And it’s abishai us.

121. 47:12

     Is just let me go over and I’ll fix this problem. One hit, he’s gone, that’s it. Remember he says no, God must have sent him. I’m not you sons are alive, too hard for me. I’m not going to deal with that. David was probably very angry about it, but he didn’t sin. He didn’t go and take to have someone go and take that man’s head off. So we’ve got two options, we don’t have the option to take someone’s head off because that’s wrong. Our Lord’s told us.

122. 47:34

     That’s not what we to do. What can we do? Here’s what we can do. We can lovingly confront the person and say I am really unhappy about this or we can consciously decide to overlook a matter.

123. 47:47

     Let’s look at the second one first and see how it affects us. Do you know if we decide to consciously Overlook a matter? What’s it mean? Probably applies to Something in the workplace. Perhaps, it’s not to do with our family. Our brother and sisters. This is example, someone has wronged us. Someone said you’ve got your line manager.

124. 48:02

     Said, look fill out. This Excel spreadsheet, populate ourselves. Make sure it works is going upstairs to the big boss. You do that, he then tampers with it. All the cells fall out, it goes upstairs, the big boss, the big boss comes down and gives you a real ticking off because you just don’t even know what you’re doing. You’ve done the right thing.

125. 48:20

     You have been accused of something that you didn’t do. What do you do? Well, you can choose to say, is there any Redemptive value and me confronting the big boss, probably not is the person that work with.

126. 48:32

     Well, I can accept the wrong and I can leave the matter to God. Now that sounds really easy to see. Say sitting here, isn’t it? But actually you can apply that now life. How do we know we can apply it because look what Peter says, you know that very well taking the Lord Jesus Christ and he says this is what our Lord suffered this is what he went through and He was a totally just innocent righteous man who never was angry to the point of cine and out of that. They took him and hung him on a tree. so he says, you know, if you suffer for something which isn’t your fault, so, be it pass that over, understand that that is you’re following your Lord and Master Look at that last line there but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.

127. 49:16

     What of the Lord do? He said, I know that there’s a righteous judge, he’s consistent, he’s predictable, he’s reliable. And he wept over Jerusalem because he knew was going to happen to that City when they killed him, God will deal with it, and he left that to him. I want to be really clear. This is not the same as burying anger, what’s burying anger? I’m so mad with that person that I am not even going to tell them if they went up.

128. 49:42

     And said well, yeah, everything. All right, is something wrong move. You don’t know. I’m not telling you. No, that’s bearing anger. What happens if you Barry anger? Scriptural example, have a look at this. Absolute, let’s make it really clear. More Godless, man. You’re not going to find in David’s life but Absalom When his half brother forced, his sister was utterly Furious.

129. 50:06

     And what did he do? He went and dealt with, he said that’s wrong. That’s abominate. No, he didn’t. He spake neither good nor bad to Amman, and it came to pass after two full years. He dwelled on that for two years and said nothing. He just was almost like a little plant and he just kept ending it. Every time he saw.

130. 50:26

     He was angry. I was going to let go of it. He wasn’t going to deal with it. He internalize that and he said, right. I’ll deal with this one day. I’m angry and I’m going to do what’s right? There’s no question what his brother did was evil. I’m not suggesting that but he planned this revenge for two years and then what’d he do had him killed.

131. 50:45

     You have been upset about something two years, five years. There’s something in your life. You go at brother three years ago, three months ago, three weeks ago, really upset me. I am not going to let him have the satisfaction of knowing I’m upset, but I am upset. I’ll keep watering and tending. My little upset Bush because that keeps me just going brother says, that’s wrong. We’re not to actually dwell on it. You need to be able to move on and why? Because Our Lord, Jesus Christ.

132. 51:18

     Really believe that God would judge righteously and Paul says, the Romans rather give place to wrath is written vengeance. Is mine? I will repay. You know what you need to be able to let go of those sort of issues. We’re not talking about their here, we’re talking about saying, okay, there’s no Redemptive value in this person in the world.

133. 51:34

     I’ll just suffer in silence and move on. Perhaps in this situation, overlooking the transcription aggression is the best thing that we can do as an option at moment. The discretion of a man’s to furth is to defer his anger, and it is Glory to pass over a transgression brother and sisters far more often and far more useful for us in our occlusal interactions and our interactions with their Brethren and sisters, our families, our husbands, our wives, our children is to lovingly confront the person. Not what I said lovingly confront. You’re not going to try and settle a score. You’re not trying to win a battle. You’re going to try and work through an issue. Who did this very well?

134. 52:18

     Our Lord and Master. Do you remember Peter? Kay new said, no Lord. You’re not going to go up to Jerusalem. Yagami crucified. And he said to him, he rebuked Peter saying get behind me. Satan, you know that situation. What did he rebuked him? So the only person that Lord rebuked. No, two. More of his disciples came with another brilliant idea. Let’s call down fire from heaven and completely incinerate the Samaritans, he turned and rebuked them and said, you know, not what manner of spirit you are. She didn’t just say, no, that’s okay. He rebuked them.

135. 52:52

     Take heed to yourselves, If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him, if he repent, forgive him, what’s Happening Here? You look up the word rebuke, it means to censure or to admonish. Let me tell you what it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean to verbally abuse, Sometimes we think, right? That particular situations like this, I’m going to deal with it.

136. 53:12

     And boy, when I’m finished that brother or sisters, certainly going to know what I think about this. No rebuking. According to scripture translation is to sensual demolish. Peter said John’s Christ, says in Luke 17. You know what? Take it ease up if you Brothers trespass, go and talk about it with him or her rebuke him, say I’m sorry, it didn’t appreciate that.

137. 53:37

     If he repents forgive him, why you’re going to lay a matter before someone who you perceive has wronged you. But always remember, you might have perceived it wrong. You might have misunderstood the words or the nuances or the situation you might actually be wrong. What do you do by following the Lord’s example, in Luke 17, you’re going to go and say to them.

138. 54:00

     I’m giving you an opportunity to share more information. Perhaps, I don’t have all the facts. Perhaps I came in halfway through the discussion. Perhaps, I’m missing some of this, I’m angry, but I need to talk about it with you or you’re also giving them an opportunity to explain their motives. They might say, well, look brother. Here’s why I said that because I know that ten years ago, when the closure a person, an individual went down that path is where they ended up today.

139. 54:21

     I’m concerned for you go. Okay, thank you, I appreciate that. Well, they might actually Around and say, you know what? I haven’t slept, since I said that to you, I’ve been very distressed, I’m very sorry. Please forgive me. What’s happened? Forgive him and you’ve gained your brother, Matthew 8, a s about reconciling. Party’s back together.

140. 54:41

     Isn’t it confrontations? Never the purpose. It’s about to reconcile that situation. Now it comes to taking some sort of constructive action. You got a choice, you can let the offense. Go Christ, says to forgive them, Absalom didn’t just remember how that ended up. You can actually do something about it. And if we choose to lovingly confront the person who’s wrong, it wronged us unique to do with that anger. You need to do it as Paul says Brethren. If a man be overtaken in a fault ye which are spiritual restore, such a one in the spirit of meekness considering yourself, lest you be tempted.

141. 55:20

     You might raise a conversation. I you say, John, that’s impossible. How am I going to bring up? This person’s hurt me, company to the quick. How am I going to do it? Well, you make it a matter of prayer and then perhaps you go with something like this. I’m feeling hurt and angry over something that happened.

142. 55:35

     Maybe I misunderstood you But I need to resolve this today. Can we talk about it, please? It’s got to be positive way of moving forward, doesn’t it? It’s a lot better than just dwelling upon it. There’s might explain to you. Like it is said that, sorry you misunderstood me or I’m sorry, I didn’t mean that and I’m very upset.

143. 55:57

     Please forgive me, both have an anger. The anger that welled up in you, the red light is that we’re on the dashboard is actually got you to do something. If you weren’t angry, you probably would sit for a long time and just now I’ll just bury it. No, that’s not good. You need to actually be able to get that on the table and talk it through it.

144. 56:13

     Served a good purpose. You might think we’ll John if anger so marvelous. How come the so many problems in the world around about us? Why is this emotion allow people to get completely out of control and do utterly ridiculous things in the world? And in the Ecclesia let’s be blunt. I’ll tell you why human nature would have us, believe, brother and sisters.

145. 56:36

     This is without the word of God that all anger is of equal value. If I perceive I’ve been wronged, then I’ve been wronged I perceived that way perceive reality, I believe it. It happened to me as I see it, so I’m right. Everyone else is wrong. This leads to the conclusion that I have a right, I have a right to be angry, it’s not great.

146. 56:56

     That’s not what we’re seeing in scripture. We’ve got two types of anger, if you allow me to split it in half, you’ve got what we going to call definitive anger, it’s born out of wrongdoing. Is when you witness, perpetrators conducting evil acts and you feel very angry about that, you open up a newspaper and in someone in serious, drop chlorine bombs on homeless children and killed 500 of them. That’s evil, that’s wicked.

147. 57:26

     Well, your open up your paper and you see, you know, some African leaders flying around the world in a million dollar, 5 million, 25 million, hundred million dollar jet while he’s Nation starves. That’s evil, that’s theft. That’s wickedness. Or a brother leaves, his wife and leaves behind children and leaves the truth and goes out in the world and teams up with some secretary in the office.

148. 57:50

     That’s evil. That’s wicked. And that’s what we call defined anger. It’s the only kind of anger that God has his anger is only ever spurred because his Holiness is challenged and all his examples of just raised with it challenges, you always holiness. The second time of that type of anger is where we feel disappointed, but we’re in a bad mood or we’ve got out of bed on the wrong side in the morning. And we feel hurt because of something, we think someone might have done.

149. 58:20

     This is distorted anger. And you know what the scary thing is, there is absolutely no difference in the feeling. Weather is distorted and you feel that someone’s done that to you. Or whether you actually open newspapers say this is evil. The feeling of anger internally will not be any different, but the reason is incredibly different. In the first reason, it’s, that’s evil against everything God stands for.

150. 58:48

     The second reason. Is this is all about Justice for me. Me me me. And this is where the World Views anger. It’s all about me. I’m allowed to be angry because he cut me off. I’m allowed to be angry because they took my car. Parking space, I’m allowed to be angry because whatever. Why?

151. 59:05

     It’s all about me. That ever happened in scripture where someone got angry because of them. Oh yeah. Second Kings five Naman. He comes down and he says to Elijah. No I’m here. I’m here with his whole Entourage and Luscious as yet turns out he’s little messenger and says, go and dip in the Jordan 7 times.

152. 59:23

     Naaman was Roth. This man had problems with anger, probably made him an excellent leader of an army which went round massacring slaughtering people because he just didn’t really control anger, very well. Look, at the end there, he says, Arbor are not a bother and Firepower wizard two rivers of Damascus better. So he turned and went away. You know, right age it was Roth he’s got, did he seriously has anger management issues.

153. 59:46

     It’s all about him. But why was he so angry? Well, in his mind, Elijah had done him a huge Injustice. He had given a lie, sure, a chance to come out and prove that his God was great. The mighty name in it, tuned up and allowed the God of this little Nation, Israel, to show how powerful he was and that hadn’t happened.

154. 1:00:08

     What had happened. Well, the fact that what happened was Elijah had cured and incurable disease had given him the remedy to cure leprosy. That was unheard of, it’ll be like if you had cancer and someone came said he’s the remedy for curing cancer. Like just just understand this. This is an incurable disease, he’s got and Elijah’s, give him the Cure and he’s angry because he perceives that upon him.

155. 1:00:31

     There’s been great hurt done and he rages to all those round about him. The only thing that actually saved him was the fact that some of the men who Probably looked at each other and went. Here We Go Again. Calm down. Talked him through it. And God could work with that. So, there’s a person you got very angry. How do we recognize when would be affected by distorted anger? That’s that anger, which talks all about me? Well, it’s all about my perceived wrongs of led. Me to be angry.

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     Take name it, he perceived that he had been treated bad. It was all in his head, it wasn’t real. He just been given the cure for an incurable disease, but in his head, he said, oh I perceive I’ve been treated poorly. You know what we need to stop and think and ask ourselves.

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     Preven sisters. Is this anger based on my perception? This is why we’re stopping our responses while we’re getting all upset begin to examine our anger. Why are we so cross about this? Is it distorted ingersoll’s. A great example of that, he just showed the store – he genuinely believed in his head, that David was going to kill him. David raised an army.

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     David was going to wipe out his whole family and he was going to take the kingdom. The reality was David had at least two opportunities to kill him. And never acted upon it. The reality was that, every time Saul went after him, David says to him, right here to kill you. So the reality was, he was going to kill him, but the perception his head was, he’s going to so he acted upon his perception.

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     And he dealt with what we call distorted anger, How do we handle bad anger? What’s bad angle? Well, I guess distorted angers bad anger. So often we base our decisions upon information, that’s wrong. You know, something comes fast as we hear something, it’s circumstantial, its generalizations expectation, is personal preference, whatever it might be, we go, we’ve been wronged, we create an anchor, that’s distorted.

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     And if we dealt well upon it, we’ve got the potential to turn that into sin. That ever happened in Scripture? And a Joshua, remember two-and-a-half drives a heading back to the Eastern side of the, the River Jordan. And when they got there, they built a huge pile of stones because they wanted to remember that they were still part of the nation of Israel. What happened?

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     What are the nation of Israel? Do they quickly all Rush together? I went, huh. We know what they’re doing. They’re building an altar. Well, they were better than that. They teamed up got their soldiers, got their captains of thousands, and went charging down to say, what on Earth are you doing? So look at that, the whole Congregation of the children of Israel, gathered them together, at Shiloh, to go up to war against them.

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     This wasn’t just a couple of Brethren coming to ask what he doing. They’ve armed up to load up and they’re going off to war. What are the men Everybody Get Enough? Try to master say they say, whoa! Whoa! If that was what we were doing. Building an altar. The first so worship false gods, kill us.

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     Now, don’t save save us. Not this day. Destroy us. That was never Our intention. And what happened like talked about it and they said we’re happy. We’re now, we’ll go back, you go on. And the thing please, the children of Israel and they bless God.

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     I guess that’s never happened in occlusal life in the last 100 years has it we want to cleanse yourself to another closure. What on Earth are you doing? Wyman. Yeah, can happen Carter. What if you decided to paint your hall? I think you’ve just painted it on the outside and done lots of work.

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     What if someone driving past and a little cliche Down, the Road Enfield, drove past and came into infinitely, tedric Alice, panted the whole bear with me here, that painted it pink. And we all say p in a situation of the world where these evil effeminate colors are speaking about a Godless perception of where people want to live pink. So we all quickly break open the cabinet’s. Got our paint rollers got brother. Jeff hands is a painter and said, lead the charge. We coming up to teach regalia.

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     We all marched up the road. We got up here and we said, what are you doing? And the brother who’s running the painting and might have been able to his Brethren course, it’s pink. It’s the primer. We can only put on a pink primer, you get primer and two colors. It’s pink, it’s pink and we put on Pink and then we’re going to paint it another color.

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     Silly story. Isn’t it would never happen in reality because we don’t talk to each other first. Wouldn’t we? Let’s make sure we do in the future talk to each other. Let’s not launch pre-emptive. Strikes against someone who’s put the pink primer and the examples. Silly on the outside of their Hall. Without actually going and saying, brother, I know you here in the same city or any others in the same country or in the same Fellowship, you mind, if I come in, have a cup of tea or coffee with you or can I ring you let’s talk this through. You know what the ten tribes never would have stood for false worship and that’s right.

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     God wouldn’t either But the way you go about, finding that out is pretty important. And, of course, Reuben could have said, I’m by the way, we’re leaving now. And when we get down there, going to build a huge pile of stones, and this is what it’s for. That would have helped the situation too.

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     We need to make sure that we’re not angry before we get our paint brushes and go charging up the road. And if you see em feel, paints, their haul, any other color, but cream actually, if you want to help us, find out how we can come down, that’s fine. You see the action was correct with the ten tribes but their information was wrong.

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     What are we saying here? Answers the matter before. He’s it’s Folly and shame unto him. And so often we do that because we think we know why how where what’s going on? So long as his don’t do that,

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     And the challenge, of course, is our relationships. How do we Relate to each other in the news. Because the fact is the other person probably never intended to make you angry. Perhaps you’ve just to let that bad anger get control of your life.

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     So what we’ve covered tonight is some steps that we can actually apply in our life to say. Yeah. Will be angry and sin. Not will follow the example of Lord Jesus cross and we won’t get it right. But I tell you what, if we don’t try and follow it when from no hope of getting anywhere near where.

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     Here’s What do you want to do? Next time we get together because God willing there, another class is what we want to cover. We want to look at anger and forgiveness, important, absolutely? Any examples in scripture, plenty, that will make us sit up and say, yeah, how do I react to that? We want to look at how anger affects families and children.

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     What’s the impact of anger on a, on a family? And how does that transcribe into the way the children and what about, when you’re angry with yourself? I’m so angry at myself here. I am again on a Sunday morning and I’ve done the same thing. Talk about that will talk about how to speak to an angry person, plenty of information.

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     Plenty of information. And the last one I want to cover is when we are angry with God. I could promise you that sitting here tonight there are people who are angry with God. Who feel that God has let me down. I can’t understand what this person’s got this. I can’t understand why that person died and maybe angers the wrong way. Maybe it’s just struggling to understand God in relation to how I feel about things.

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     We’re going to spend quite a bit of time, looking at subject brother and sisters because some Monumental Brethren struggle with that challenge. Not only Jonah, we got to see some next week. God willing. Thank you. Thank you for listening to the good christadelphians talks podcast. We hope this talk helped you in your walk.

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