190: Dan Knowles - God Knows
May 9, 2022 51 min
This week we are listening to an exhortation by Brother Dan Knowles given at the Tea Tree Gully Ecclesia in 2022. We hope this strengthens your Faith and brightens your day!
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Scripture references
- Psalm 142:1-2, 5
- Psalm 31:1, 13
- 1 Samuel 21:4, 13
- 1 Samuel 22:10
- Job 23:10
- 1 John 3:18
- Romans 8:2
- Hebrews 5:7
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Transcript 106 sections, automatically transcribed
Automatically transcribed. Accuracy is good but not perfect, and words are sometimes wrong. Trust the audio over the text.
- 0:13
Welcome to good for selfie and talks. I’m Levi and I’m Chris and I’m Brian, thank you for joining us this week. On this podcast, we select one taco week to help us get the Bible in our daily news feed. We post a new episode of the start of each week with a short intro. Hand to kind of set the stage for the talk. You’re about to listen to and now let’s talk more about this week’s talk
- 0:49
stock is an excitation by brother Dan Knowles again at the teat regally, Ecclesia earlier this year, the title is, God knows very much enjoyed Station found very instructive and uplifting and inspiring I guess. Recognizing that our heavenly father does have empathy. And anytime that we felt alone or overwhelmed or confused about our, you know, what’s happening, our lives, God knows and doesn’t oppress us beyond what we can bear. This was a suggestion, very thankful to the sister that sent this in.
- 1:29
He’s do, send us any talks to you here that are that are beneficial and we will likely share them. Thank you again. So, here is God Knows by Well, thank you Mark. And thanks for those hoping thoughts as well. And that there’s some that you quoted to us earlier which is very relevant to our theme this morning and good morning. Brothers and sisters.
- 1:55
It’s lovely to be with you all again here. To share a morning together where we can reflect on the word of our god, what he’s given us and what he’s offered to us in our Lord. Well there are times in life aren’t their brothers and sisters. When we Face trials or challenges or maybe just situations that have come upon us, whether brought Upon Us by our own mistakes and poor choices or just by the circumstances of life. and there are times times when we can feel quite alone, In the sense that no one understands what we face.
- 2:41
Sometimes we say that to ourselves, don’t we? if only someone else, understood We can feel perhaps at times, that everything is against us. All everyone is against us, whether that’s reality or just our perception, our frame of mind. Sometimes we feel we have these situations in our life that either. No one else understands or no one else knows or even if they did know, they wouldn’t understand but the reassurance for us brothers and sisters is that Your experience is not alone. People in scripture felt this to and poured out their hearts. they poured out their emotions, sometimes despair, sometimes frustration, even anger their circumstances that they found themselves facing Yet, the hope is that they work through this. They came to a realization.
- 3:42
A realization that became a calming influence in their minds even changed their perspective and this realization I think can be summed up in those two words which is our theme this morning. God knows, God knows. And that might seem overly simplistic. I mean, that’s something we teach our children, isn’t it? God knows everything that you do. Be careful what you say.
- 4:07
Be careful what you do. Be careful where you go. God knows. But it doesn’t hurt us to reflect on that, and to revisit that does it as adults. as grown-ups even fact, we have grown up and to think about whether we remember that. We also like a children are in the presence of God. He knows what we’re thinking.
- 4:33
That’s the challenge for us. I think as disciples is we, we look at last issues, big issues or small issues. The small interactions we have within our family and our friends through the bigger issues that we might work through in a collegial life. And what I find brothers and sisters is that we, you know, we can easily give or we can easily hear talks on the concept of God in our lives and all these lovely ideas. And yet, they can be a huge disconnect sometimes in our lives.
- 5:05
Between that theory between that thought and that ideal, that we are all very happy to talk about. And how we actually deal with the situations that we come across in life. And I think subconsciously, we may never think this thought, but subconsciously, we can act as, though well. That doesn’t apply to this particular situation or this aspect of my life.
- 5:30
Not sorry. That the spirit of Christ can’t be applied here. I just have to deal with it in my own way. I don’t think any of us would ever consciously think, or say that necessarily That our actions, not words thoughts, even might belie that. We might be striving for an outcome. We see is Right, a cause we believe is the best.
- 5:55
But if we stopped and examined the way we get there, the way we get there does matter as well. Do we think about how God looks at the way we travel? Not just where we’re going.
- 6:10
The thoughts going through our heads of times, our personal responses, to what he’s bought in our lives. Does he see in us a consciousness of his being of his presence? I say this because this is something I’ve struggled with. So I assume that there are others, that also struggle with this. The possible disconnect between what we profess and how we actually act and respond. What are some examples in scripture just to name a few quickly, people who experienced Injustice, we misunderstood discredited.
- 6:43
How it impacted them how they responded. Well, I’m sure you could some examples would start to run through your heads, but some of that spring to mind straight away, think of Joseph misunderstood, you know, considered by his brothers egotistical self-centered when he was in fact there. To seek his Brethren’s, welfare.
- 7:03
But had to suffer in silence for all those years without objection. They’re complaining without lashing out knowing that it was God’s will. Moses, you take too much upon yourself, Moses. The people said to him as Moses struggled there through the desert, trying to care for them all like a father to a million people. Jobe.
- 7:27
Jobe just accepted you’ve sinned job. In fact, job the consequences you have less than you deserve job. Enjoy the new that he hadn’t done any particular thing wrong that he was in general a righteous man, he struggled with that clearly. And we get to see all the thoughts going through his head. As he struggled through that concept, couldn’t even understand why God was putting him in that situation.
- 7:53
But he had to learn to trust, didn’t he? To trust that? God had it in hand and would judge fairly in the end. And it throughout his term oil on his struggles, he had these little moments of clarity these truths, which came through in his words. There’s one I particularly, like, in Job, chapter 23, and we might just turn there for a moment beekeeping Mark, when the sun will come back there later. But joke, 23 some favorite words of mind and in the struggle of jobs life, Starting from this base 8 of Job, chapter 9, at Joe chapter 23.
- 8:34
Sorry. As Joe reflects on the struggles in his life, he says, behold I go forward but he that is God is not there and backward but I cannot perceive him on the left hand. Where does he work?
- 8:51
Not the right, he hideth himself on the right hand. I cannot see him, but he says in verse 10. One thing is for sure. He knoweth the way that I take And when he is tried me, I shall come forth as gold. My foot hath held his steps. His way have I kept and have not declined and although I think job is still struggling with the concept of how God is treating him.
- 9:17
You might say in the situation, the struggles he’s putting him through. He accepts, he cannot reject. This one fact that God knows he knows the way I take. He sees beyond what I see. And he can bring me forth as gold of the end. we have, of course then people like Nehemiah who labored amongst the nation? What about reforms rebuilt?
- 9:49
The city. And then went away for a few years and came back and found all his reforms uprooted. What was the purpose? What did he even achieved in his whole life? At the end of that book? As he found people turning his back on the things he’d set up.
- 10:05
And yet, it wasn’t a wasted life. Why? Because God knew God, saw and so his classic phrase To God is remember me. Oh my God for good. Jeremiah imagine a man with a mission to prophesy doom and destruction on your own City. And all these people saw him him as was a doomsayer, a traitor, to the cause of Israel, when he was completely the opposite, imagine being in that situation. And of course, we have David who we’re going to consider today. Imagine a man who we know was spiritual at heart, but imagine being written off being labeled in the mind of the nation as an adulterer, and a murderer.
- 10:52
Yes, God had forgiven him as Nathan said, but who else knew that in the nation except for Nathan? The prophet, As far as the rest of the nation was concerned, David was still labeled with those names. No longer a spiritual man. Certainly in the eyes of people like a hit, the fell when his followers.
- 11:11
David was like a dog to them one cursed by God and yet David knew that his own relationship was God With God restored. but he couldn’t change what people think thought of him hoodie, and he didn’t try to He just trusted in God.
- 11:28
And it’s only that we have the full record and able to look back in hindsight that we know that he was a changed in a spiritual man. Of course, we have our Lord Jesus Christ, the ultimate example.
- 11:43
Yet in his day, in the moment, the most misunderstood and unappreciated, man, in the world, his enemies throwing slow on his birth in this credentials, his motives twisting, his teaching, and his friends and followers, not malicious, but completely failing to understand what he was going through to comprehend, what he had to do in his real purpose in life. And so we’re going to come back of course, to our Lord Jesus Christ.
- 12:08
As when we conclude by what I’d like to do. Now is just to take a small sample from David’s life in the summer brother. Mark read for a some water 142 because this is just one I think of many Psalms that Where David reflects on his situation in God’s eyes? There are many Psalms, and many deep reflections of David, brother, Mark Credit, another one relevant, one this morning as well, where he reflect on the way God knew all his thoughts.
- 12:42
But we’re just going to take this example. which is as, as it describes, a masculine David, a prayer when he was in the cave, some 142 before we get into the summer itself, notice that a mask. You actually means a contemplative song. So that means that David has taken a moment to pause and to contemplate his situation.
- 13:07
But not simply to contemplate it from a human point of view, but to reflect on it. With God in mind. With God’s view on his life. You might say, He stands back for a moment and looks at his life, through God’s eyes. in our Busy World, in our busy life, when we are often dealing with problems by doing and acting, Often on our own so-called wisdom. Meditation is almost a lost art, isn’t it? It’s something that’s not so much done or if it’s spoken of in this world its context, it’s much of it, more of a mind emptying thing than a god-centered thing. And with we have this challenge, don’t lie, especially when we’re in the thick of fast or fast moving or significant events. Do we force ourselves to pause and to reflect deeply on our situation from God’s perspective? Considering for considering for a moment that it’s just you and God leaving for a moment, other parties out of the equation. Shedding those layers, those protection. Those barriers that we put around our self and our motives, The barriers, we might have between us and other people that we hired someone out in ourselves and stopping to just open that.
- 14:28
She’ll Delay. Our hearts open to God. It’s probably a struggle with our Western culture as well, that we don’t do this, as well as perhaps we caught and people in times past did our culture, where it’s stiff, upper lip, you try not to show emotion, you keep things bottled up. But we can’t be like that without God brothers and sisters even if we might be with each other.
- 14:55
What’s the situation David’s in here? Well, it says a prayer when he was in the cave. Now, clearly there’s two cave incidents. There’s, there’s the cave of a dull. Mm, where David first gathered with his 400 men, and there’s the cave of engedi, but the cave of a dull. Mm, seems to lend itself to this situation, better.
- 15:15
If that’s the case, it’s that incident which is described in inverse of Samuel 22 and it might be helpful just to turn back back there for a moment. Just to remind ourselves of that context. First of Samuel chapter 22.
- 15:38
So, just for the context on this, if you look back just before chapter 22, you’ll see, this is, this is the time when David has first fled from. So, he’s first gone to him, like the priests obtain some items. Then gone on, not felt safe. And in verse 10 of chapter 21, a rose and fled that day for fear of Saul and gone to a Koosh, the king of gath.
- 16:04
And so, you can get a sense of David’s mindset at the moment, and it’s not stable. He feels initially that there is no safety for him. In the land of Israel itself amongst the nation, no one’s going to Harbor him and he was right in the sense that everyone was was afraid of salt 1 and he’s his fear was justified in the next chapter when dog.
- 16:24
And and still come through and wipe out that whole city of priests families and children and all just because they help David and so feeling so isolated, he thinks we’ll know what’s my next option gas? Achish clearly not a Choice but this shows the frame of mind and that the state that David was in. And so now saying he jumped out of the frying pan Into the Fire. And we know how things went for him and gath, and he ends up to escape from a Koosh in verse 13, a dribbling mess on the ground, doesn’t he?
- 16:56
Absolutely humiliated pretending to be a Madman just so that he can escape from this situation. And we know from other Psalms that he was at this point. Pouring out prayers to God as he did. So, And indeed, it wasn’t his own Ploy of being a Madman, that saved him, but God’s Providence. And so now he returns back to this cave dull, mmm.
- 17:20
A dejected man. He’s gone everywhere. He’s tried all human help. The nation of Israel. Let him down. Gentiles are no help. Either Human Resources, human protection is exhausted.
- 17:32
And hence we have the thoughts and the prayer that he pours out in this some it’s a realization that there was no human health that he could rely on as you’ll see in verse 4. For example, if you flip back to the psalm 142, There was I looked on my right hand but there was no man, that would know me my refuge failed me. Whether I tried it in Israel or tried it in gath. No man cared for my soul.
- 17:59
You get this emphasis, don’t you know, man, no man but I Cried unto thee o. Yahweh So that’s sitting. That’s the setting for these words. David. Now, in this cave, About to cry out to God. It’s interesting that the word cave itself means a cavern or a dark place, and that’s fitting for David state of mind isn’t at the moment.
- 18:24
He is in a dark place in his life. And so this arm seems to have a couple of sections in that. It changes tense partway through. You’ll notice in the first few verses he’s talking in the past tense. And he’s talking about God in in the third person as as him. So I cried past tense unto Yahweh. This verse 2, I showed before him my trouble, so, this sum must have been written after David, had his cry and his, his, his pouring out of emotion to God in the cave. And the interesting thing is that he’s now at some later point taken, the time to stop and to look back on that moment in time and reflect, this is what happened and this is what I did.
- 19:09
God, I I stopped in that cave and and I cried to you. It’s Wasabi speaking actually to another audience. Perhaps it’s even his four hundred followers because he says it’s to him. He’s not speaking to God and those first two verses, he speaking to some third party audience, whether it’s his men all the readers of this.
- 19:29
Some that’s what happened. I, I was in this moment and I poured out my complained to God and the next section he changes tents again, he starts talking about You or thee. So God verse 5 I Cried unto thee. Second person, o Yahweh. So he’s now changed the address of his some rather than addressing these audience in these readers is now addressing God.
- 19:57
And speaking with God about what happened in that scenario, I just shows the value of reflection isn’t it? That he didn’t just go through the moment and move on. He paused and thought, back on it. And then wrote this, some so, the first section Is a reflection which begins with quite some distress, you can get the sense of it. In verse 1, I Cried unto Yahweh with my voice with my voice unto Yahweh.
- 20:26
Did I make my supplication? There’s a, there’s a parallelism, there’s a structure in the Hebrew isn’t there, which is repeating for emphasis my voice. And the only thing that changes in both those sentences, some translations, put it with my voice. I Cried unto Yahweh with my voice to do, make supplication. It’s just the last part of the phrase that changes.
- 20:47
I cried, I made supplication for both are used my voice. There’s a there’s a lesson in that itself brothers and sisters when we were alone and we’re praying to God. We often probably just pray in our heads as we say that speaking out loud and there’s no one else there to pray for not doing a prayer for a group or a family, but it doesn’t hurt.
- 21:09
Actually as David does to, to say, his prayer out loud to make his cry out loud. I’ve done this a couple of times and you’ll find if, if you haven’t tried this before, It does make you think a bit more about your words bit more deeply and to make a more realistic connection between you and God as though, you are speaking to a real person, not just having some random thoughts flow through your head. so David says, no, I had to voice this and it’s it’s also Those times when you can’t help. But cry out to God.
- 21:47
It’s almost a first that the word cry means to shriek. It reminds us of those, those groanings. That cannot be uttered. In Romans 8 where someone, I can’t at first as David put words to it. So first, I just cried, I made this noise like a, you know, a child that needs its father or mother, I just had to tell you God that I was in trouble. And then gradually, I could actually articulate that into words. it says, in verse 2, that
- 22:16
I poured out my complaints before him now. The complaint is not a negative word as we have it in English, it’s probably better. Rob rendered, my troubled thoughts, the any new English translation says, I poured out my lament before him. I tell him about my troubles so it wasn’t complaining against God in that Nest sense.
- 22:34
Necessarily it was an openness David’s obviously feeling deep in the issue in the moment. we just imagine, after all the excess that he enjoyed after the defeat of Goliath moving up promotions through the ranks of cells courts to Leading the Army, being a general and that a very fast descent into the depth where he was no longer a national hero – People either freighting to associate with him or snubbing him because of his status as a runaway. Servant, no one stood by him.
- 23:15
And yes, you might say, people joined him in the cave. 400 people, but we’re these people coming to support David. Now, what sort of people were they everyone in distress, everyone in debt, everyone in trouble. they weren’t, they were there to get support from David and it’s interesting that God does that to us at times when we think I need help God from someone else. Will God send someone else to us for us to help. Sometimes, that’s the best thing for us to help us out of our own misery, our own focus on our own needs. It’s one commented on my notes, trouble and lack of human sympathy or help have done their best work on David since they have driven him to God.
- 24:04
He wasn’t brought to that point of having no human help. He wouldn’t have poured out his thoughts in this way. When it says, in verse 3, my spirit was overwhelmed Within Me. Then thou knewest my path in the way wherein I have walked have they privily laid a snare for me? But one just says of that word, overwhelmed that in the Hebrew, it means was darkened.
- 24:32
My spirit was darkened within me, and you can imagine it’s as though the dark storm clouds of his situation of come over him, the sky has darkened for David and the ESV, he says, mice, when my spirit faints within me, you know, my way, Down newest my path or you know my way and that’s our theme this morning, isn’t it? So what is that actually saying, it’s a rather peculiar phrase if you look at it when my spirit was overwhelmed with in me, Then God knew what my path was.
- 25:06
Let’s seems a bit strange. Didn’t God know what his path was regardless of David’s feelings. Well, there’s two possible explanations for this. I can see that one David reflects on the fact that even though he was overwhelmed and couldn’t see his path forward that God could, The other explanation, which I think fits better, is that, it wasn’t until David was overwhelmed, and saw that, there was no human way out that he realized only God knows my path. And we have to be brought to that point. Sometimes, don’t we to brought to exhaust Human Resources until we realized that it’s only God.
- 25:47
That knows our path forward. He says, in verse 4, I looked on my right hand and the held and there was no man. That would know me Refuge failed me. No man cared for my soul. Well, the Amplified says, no man cares for my life or my welfare, whether it’s his physical life or his spiritual life. No one wanted to know him.
- 26:13
If you know, David of you associate, if you even appear to associate with him, you could have Saul on your back with his army and do egg. So either they were afraid or they just didn’t have time for David or people like neighbor who just rejected him in school and him out, right?
- 26:32
Either way, no man cared for my soul and so his response. Seeing no human help. In verse 5 is I Cried unto thee. O, Yahweh. I said Thou Art my refuge and my portion in the land of the living attend unto my cry for. I am brought very low deliver me from my persecutors for.
- 26:54
They are stronger than I He made this statement of confidence in God. Thou Art my refuge in the land of the living. Let’s let’s work through that phrase and see what it contains his Refuge. So he’s the one he turns to you for protection as though he has before. He has no physical force does.
- 27:16
He doesn’t have a castle with walls that he can take around to defend him from school. God is like he might say he’s his mobile protection. He’s portion. He had no prospects have been held in city. I mean, what, in what land or what position is, is a fugitive man, who’s been disgraced and kicked out of the court of the king? What sort of portion is he going to get in the land and let alone actually possessing some land as the other other Israelites would actually have stability.
- 27:48
There actually have a place that he could call home and safely attend just the basics of Life David had no place to call home at this point. It’s like, oh, what God had for him was a portion and inheritance and it’s in the land of the living. In other words, if you turned that around the other way, David saying, well, there’s nothing else in life. In this life, the land of the living, if it wasn’t for God, there would be nothing worth living for Well, that’s actually the reality for all of our Lives, isn’t it? But how often do we think that?
- 28:25
How often do we remember that? We can easily find other things to occupy ourselves with ought to live for. We might say, but when we come to David’s point of realize, actually, when everything else fails, there is nothing else, but God to live for so, David says, In verse 7, he drink makes this appeal. Bring my soul out of the prison that I may praise thy name. The righteous shall Compass me about for Thou. Shalt deal bountifully with me with me. So what is David’s appeal?
- 29:01
People have clearly been unjust to him. So, his followers others who should have been faithful and stood up to him, but stood up to us all, but deserted David.
- 29:14
What does he want? Does he want justification for himself? Does he want Vindication for someone to stand up? Say look, this is all unfair. So I was wrong. David was right. David was doing the right thing. Listen, everyone. Is that what he asks for? No.
- 29:33
It simply says bring my soul out of the prison. Release me from the prison that that we’re all in the presence of sin and to death. You see David steps back and realizes. There are bigger issues at play here. It’s so easy for us when we have a trouble or a problem that’s come on us in life to either blame something or something else in life as the cause of that problem. Have we ever reflected on the fact that something, that perhaps frustrates us the most or gets us affects us negatively, can’t be an accident. It’s probably being purposefully Allowed by God. is that personal that thing or whatever it is that Upsets us, always causing us trouble.
- 30:18
We turn that around and think. Well, God has purposefully allowed that and actually probably the real root cause for it is not a particular individual group, or whatever it might be, but human nature and the sin that is I’m guilty of, as well as everyone else. Just us to change our perspective, it a bit, doesn’t it?
- 30:42
And we’re not so ready to kick against the Pricks, if it may. Well, we got a ministering them. There is none of those selfish self-defensive sentiments here, rather David just appeals for release so that he can walk free in the land and enjoy all the Privileges other did. No, that’s not. The really is. He’s looking for not just so that he can have physical freedom to walk about without being chased by a spear. That all my Priceline Name.
- 31:15
bring my soul out of the prison that I might praise thy name and you might think of another song where David says In are summarized in today’s language. Please don’t let me die God, because if I die, I can’t Praise You In the soul. In the grave, who shall give thee prize? And that was David’s, genuine view.
- 31:34
It wasn’t just old saved me because I’d really like to have a nice life living in this land. As king I’m persecuted by Saul. No David thinks broader minded than that.
- 31:46
Now he says the righteous will surround me for you will deal bountifully with me. So David’s got this vision of other people joining him not just to support him and Pat him on the back and say, yes, David you’re great, but to join him in praising God. For what God had achieved in David’s life, that they’ll see that you’ve dealt bountifully.
- 32:03
So God would deal generously with him. And we know that because we have the hindsight of his life. He didn’t know what was coming up after this point. He didn’t know that, he would become king and all things would go well for a while. And so he didn’t take an approach of anger, requesting destruction, but rather.
- 32:25
He said that what will impress people when they look at my story? My life is God’s positive work with me. The work that I have submitted to. That’s what turns the tables and that’s what people see is. David’s positive response to God. That’s what turned the tables in his life. Not because he was so good with the salt and with fighting that he got up and won the issue defeated. The people who are arguing is cause made his point and everyone agreed.
- 32:52
Yes, David, you’re right? No, It was because he was probably in their eyes week. Humbled himself and submitted himself to what God had in store.
- 33:05
Compare his words in Psalm 31, just turned back there for a moment. It’s on. 31e reflects again. At a different but probably similar 20 in his life.
- 33:33
On his need for God facing when facing other challenges, says, in verse 1 of some 31. In thee o Yahweh, do I put my trust? Let me never be ashamed, deliver me in my righteousness. That’s that’s how he starts his thoughts. Now, see what he has to deal with. In verse 13, come down to verse 13, for I have heard the slander of many fear was on every side while they took counsel together against me, they devised to take away my life. I mean, I’m probably I’m sure all of us have had personal attacks at times. that if we really had that much as David has, but I trusted in thee away.
- 34:15
I said, thou my God, my times are in my control. Know, my times are in thy hand. Deliver me from the hand of mine enemies. And from them, that persecute me make thy face to shine upon thy servant, save me for thy Mercy’s sake Can you get the sense of David when he’s got slander fearing raising its him. People counseling like doing really hard work and and putting their brains together as to how they can take him down. And what’s his response?
- 34:48
Well, I’m going to build a couch and plan. I’m going to sabotage what they’re doing. Going to infiltrate them. No. All I just said was Thou Art my God and that’s all that matters. I’ll leave it in your hands God and if Aunt, I didn’t presume that he was right either. He would accept the possibility that he was wrong and he would say, whatever is right in your eyes. God that’s what should be done.
- 35:20
So just consider that example with salt, right? A consider for a moment. If it was us, what’s all in the wrong? Absolutely. He first hit attempt murder of David murder of his son. Jonathan and shortly after this he’s going to mass murder, a whole city of priests was David on right grounds to object.
- 35:40
And it to round up support for him for his cause against Saul among the nation to even leaves an upright lead an uprising. I mean he had people singing, David is saying is that his ten thousands and so lonely is Thousands do not think David could have gained popular support. If he did a bit of campaigning, for sure, he could have.
- 35:58
Did he do this? Not For a Moment. You could have said he was justified. He had Divine appointment that he’d already been anointed to be king. I mean, what more can you want? What more endorsement do? You want justification to stand up to soil? If it’s bad for the nation, it’s bad for them. Spiritually sources, taking them down, hill. The right thing for me to do is to step in take control. It’s God’s will No, did I would go around just just then bad-mouthing sort of people world. Look, you know, you can see, saw wasn’t as much control. I think things are pretty bad, but he’s doing a pretty bad job. Look, he’s not good for the nation turned to me. No, he fact he makes that point to solve it in the cave and Getti when First thing he says to him is. So why do you listen to men?
- 36:47
Who say, David seeks your hurt or David’s trying to pull you down and drag you down? I’m not running. Rumors about you, I’m not sabotaging you behind your back here. I am. I’m honest with you, if I wanted to damage you, I would have done it here and now David was straightforward of Integrity.
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What you see is what you get? Why did he endure this? All the David Cedars Source fault and poor all his troubles on Soul. No, he doesn’t have have you don’t find Psalms rant against Soul saying, it’s all cells fault. He’s so bad. He accepted that God brought this trouble on this trial on him. It wasn’t about the individual attacking him. They were really just an example of human nature. And in this case, they were God’s chosen instrument of trial.
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We know that his response of trust. To his men. He wouldn’t. He said he tells them. I won’t turn my hand against God’s Anointed. God has the situation in control. God puts all in the role and God will take him away when he’s ready for it, if that’s what he chooses. David did not in Jesus words, kick against the pricks. And think about it too, would David have become the merciful the understanding King that he was that really benefitted the nature and spiritually.
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If we did not go through this situation for years to. It wasn’t just a quick trial and then it’s all over. So that’s all very well. But how do we make sense of David situation in in our day-to-day? How is that relevant to us? Well, let’s take the test, let’s question ourselves. How do we respond?
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When issues arise? Whether it’s in our individual life, our family life or our Ecclesia, Because actually brothers and sisters wherever they are humans, there will be issues. Well, the first challenge for us is to see these things. There’s not necessarily done to us or done to someone by someone else or something else, but mostly As Allowed by God, for our development, but I can hear you saying Daniel, the negative things that are happening around me, can’t possibly be part of God’s work with me or this Ecclesia, they’re so bad. How can any good come of them?
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Rockin C is negative. I say this because I thought this same thought at certain points in my life. and I’ve learned the falseness of that statement later on, but perhaps not, for some years later, Look at scripture, brothers and sisters, the good, the bad. The ugly is there in the lives of people that we know God worked with And while God was by, no means the author of evil. The author of wickedness and sin. It’s not prevent negative things happening on occasions. I mean, why on Earth would he allow the David and Bathsheba to Bathsheba situation to occur the murder of Uriah, an innocent man a bystander to occur?
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And then the the ongoing family upheavals that followed David and his sons in their life. The uprisings, the revolts the assassinations, how can the purpose of God works through a mess like that? Yet it did. And this event was part of the journey that led to Messiah. It’s almost incomprehensible to us but God can work through that. maybe he could even say God chooses to work through that bizarre, as that may seem So let’s not limit god let’s not consider that and let’s consider that anything that is of significance. In our lives that is really impacting us may well be his hand. because it taught David at taught those around him, some critical lessons, and let that be our first response when issues come and then, perhaps it won’t be such a reactive or to self-defensive, even angry response, when we consider the patient submission that we see in David, but secondly, as we spoke about earlier, let’s pause and deeply reflect On the response that’s Brewing us.
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It’s a useful skill to practice to stand back and look at yourself from the corner of the room. to picture how you are reacting to a situation, take yourself out of the moment if you like, Helps us to generate a response, that’s born of the spirit of Christ, rather than one that’s born with that.
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Instant natural selfish reaction, which we all have Gives the chance at the mind of Christ, a chance, a moment to work. So then, how with that, in mind, how do we react to others based around us based on what’s happened to us? So, the first thing is, how do we wrapped within ourselves when things happen, the second is, how do we react to others around us?
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How do they do they see us as that person? That’s arcing up. Resisting what’s happening to around us? Trying to drive our own agenda.
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If a trial, is that we feel we’ve been wronged whether by our family, by individuals by our Ecclesia, how do we react? Do we go about garnering support for our cause telling people how Terrible Things Are For Us? Because it goes without saying, doesn’t it that? As, as humans our view in our cause is always the right one, isn’t it?
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How could it be anything else? We have to just for a moment. Abandon that thought. What did David do when he was? You might say wrongfully. Deposed, as King, when he was kicked out of the nation. Kicked out of the Ecclesia. His response was this and second Samuel, 15 is, as he trudged up that hill on the other side of Kidron.
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And told them to take the art back home. He said, if I shall find favor in the eyes of Yahweh, he will bring me again and show me both it and his habitation. but on the other hand, he said, if he say thus, I have no Delight in the behold here I am. I let him do to me as seemeth, good to him, and it’s good for us, brothers and sisters to have more of that, in our lives. Of that thought, David didn’t, rip, up, turn around, and rip into Absalom.
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Do you hear that Phil to the nation to the Ecclesia? He saw it as God’s hand and he submitted to it. And what about us? If we’re not in an issue, brothers and sisters but it’s happening around us. People. Come to us. And share their issues or whatever it may be, how should we react? How should we respond?
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Should we put fuel on the fire? Should we all take up? Take our arms and join one particular side or another. What does that do? As we all know, it just adds fuel to the fire. Doesn’t it bother them sisters? Creates the division sites. Pull saw in the Corinthian a closure. No, that wasn’t the approach of David. It wasn’t approach of pool was the approach of Our Lord. Do you notice that whenever our Lord? Was trying to be pulled into arguments or sides by the different factions within Judaism. He never took one side or the other. He took a Higher Ground.
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He took a broader minded approach. He stepped back further and said what is God really trying to achieve here? What’s the purpose of God that we’re trying to achieve? No it’s not about giving tribute to Caesar or not giving tribute to Caesar. It’s about rendering to God. What is God’s showing the qualities of Christ? Let’s think then as individuals.
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How we react to a situation and the impacts of that, on our Ecclesia, the spirit of our pleasure and the future of our pleasure. And let our responses brothers and sisters, be the level. Thoughtful mind of Christ.
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Pause and examine ourselves and us. What is our real motivation? Is it to fight our cause or is it too? See, God’s will done.
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And let us not be like those around David in his life, who wanted to have their voice, heard to make their opinion, on the situation, do this, do that. David kill Saul. Did this other thing take control Let’s not be one of those but we’re on the bystanders of an issue, like David’s. Let’s not have the sense of Pride that says, my opinion on the situation needs to be heard.
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This is my view when it’s important. Let’s have some trust that God is also at work. Not just us if we really do believe in Providence, At a certain point brother and sisters that particular issue. We work through itself, becomes irrelevant What God really cares about is how we’re all reacting to it.
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Are we fighting for our own cause for our own views was our focus on feeding his sheep? We need to think deeply brothers and sisters, our search, our hearts. To consider how God views our hearts like you to turn to this quote in first of John chapter 3. It’s a very telling and very searching quote.
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First John, chapter 3 and let’s start from Verse 18, my little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue but in deed, and in truth. It is don’t think your platitudes they just say cliches be real about it for. He says if our if our heart condemn us God is greater than our heart and knoweth, all things considered our own hearts. Think about the fact that God knows our hearts. And if we can step back and see an issue, then he definitely can see issues.
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Can’t he beloved, if our heart condemn us, not when’s weave openly and honestly, assess it Then we have confidence towards God. We have that openness, don’t we? Not not confidence that we write in ourselves but openness, we have nothing to hide before him. Do we?
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so let’s conclude Now by looking at Christ is the ultimate example in Hebrews chapter 5, so, the crossed Was he unjustly treated absolutely was he self-defensive? Never was he God conscious always Was he proud and resistant to others far from it? That we read in Hebrews, chapter 5, verse 7. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears under him, that was able to save him from death and was heard in that. He feared though he were a son yet learned. He obedience by the things that he suffered. Isn’t that incredible?
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A man who was perfect? We might say, but for our views did no wrong. And yet had the most wrong done to him, as done to any human That Ever Walked the Earth. And how did he react? We offer our prayers and supplications. He cried out like David Strong, crying and tears. so he could save himself know that so that he could express his trust and his submission to him that was able to save him and was heard not because he was confident in his own righteousness in that he feared And even though he was a son, he even because he was the son of God.
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He two brothers and sisters had to learn obedience by the things which he suffered well, brothers and sisters. If Jesus had to learn obedience by the things that he suffered, why would we complain about the things that we suffer if it’s to learn obedience to God? He did not object and he had every grounds for objecting what submitted himself to him, that worketh righteousness. And so brothers and sisters, may God bless us all as we Endeavor to be like his son to Humble ourselves to follow the path, which our author said that is the only way. And may God help us as we Endeavor to open our hearts to him to place our trust in him securely in the understanding that whatever we go through in life, whatever challenge we face.
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