070: Matt Colby - Where There is No Vision

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   Welcome to the Good Christadelphian Talks podcast. I'm Levi. And I'm Chris. Thank you so much for joining us this week. On this podcast, we select one talk a week to help each one of us get the Bible in our daily news feed. We post at the start of each week for you to listen with a short intro beforehand to kind of set the stage for the talk you're about to hear. And now let's hear more about this week's talk. This class is by Brother Matt Colby. It's an evening program at the 2016 Ontario Winter Bible School. So Matt does mention that he is giving a series this week on the Sons of Korah, but this class is a standalone class in the evening titled, Where There Is No Vision, The People Perish, which is a study from the verse in Proverbs 28. I very much enjoyed this class. I found that in preparing for this podcast, these evening programs can be so, you know, fit the mold of the podcast very easily because they do stand alone. And I'm actually also close friends with Matt and I messaged him that I really enjoyed this class and I was thinking about putting it on the show. And he shared kind of some more background, which really did explain kind of the passion that he uses in this class. So Matt goes into a description of this verse and an understanding of the original words, and then kind of reminding that we are made to have the character of God. And that is the vision. And without having that God manifestation in our lives, then that is how we will get distracted or perish. And a way that we're made that way is by tragedy.

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   And Matt goes into detail, which you'll hear in the class very passionately about the very scary circumstances around the birth of his son, which had happened just a month before. That's really a remarkable thing about this class. And Matt did say that he had considered canceling on the Bible school due to just how tough that had been, but instead decided that he'll do it. And then in pulling this class together, he figured that he might as well speak about what's really been going on with him recently. So it's a very powerful class. This is an excellent study, very encouraging, and you'll see Matt shares quite a lot. And I think it's very encouraging. So happy to share. Here is Matt Colby, Where There Is No Vision, The People Perish, from 2016.

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   So this is the 2016 Ontario Winter Bible School. Speaker for this evening is our brother Matt Colby from the Book Road Ecclesia, and his subject is Where There Is No Vision. And our reading was taken from 1 John 3, verses 1-3. Brother Matt.

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   Thank you, Brother Jonathan. Good evening, brothers and sisters and young people. Our subject for tonight, while it might not be evident from the title, is God Manifestation, which is probably the single most important concept to understand in all of Scripture, because it seems to be behind just about every doctrine that we believe and every principle that we teach from the Scripture. And so we're going to start in what some of you might consider to be an odd place. Now, God Manifestation is beautiful in its simplicity, in the sense that you can quite easily describe it to a child. Well, God has told us what he's like, and he wants us to be like him.

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   But when you start to delve into it, and when you look at it from different perspectives in Scripture, it starts to take on all kinds of different shades of meaning, which is what we hope to do this evening. So please turn with me to Proverbs chapter 29, and let's have a look at verse 18, which is where our title comes from for this class.

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   A pretty well-known verse. And this is how the verse reads in the King James. Proverbs 29 and verse 18. Where there is no vision, the people perish. But he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

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   Now, the King James could have done a better job with two particular Hebrew words in this verse. And the first one is vision. The word vision in the Hebrew is kazon. And in this context, it means, yes, a vision, but a prophetic vision. That is a special revelation to a prophet. This is something that sometimes in the nation of Israel was rare.

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   And we know about a number of those cases. For example, and we won't turn to it, you remember in 1 Samuel chapter 3 and verse 1, it says that in those days there was no open vision.

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   This is talking about a prophetic vision. The word of God being spoken through a prophet, using a prophet as his mouthpiece. And so, brothers and sisters, the second word in this verse that's important to understand is perish. I feel like this one, perhaps even a little bit more than vision, once we understand the meaning of it, will help us to get to the root of what's being said in this verse.

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    The word perish is para. Literally, though, it means to cast off restraint. And perhaps one of the most famous uses of this word is in Exodus chapter 32 and verse 25. But in that verse in the King James, that's the time when Moses is up in the mountain and the people start to give up on him.

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    He's been gone for so long. It says that they are made, or they make themselves, naked. Now, it's the very same Hebrew word para that's used for perish here in verse 18. But once again, it means to cast off restraint. And that's probably how it should have been rendered in that verse as well, in Exodus chapter 32 and verse 25.

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    Not that the people were literally naked, but that they had cast off restraint. All discipline was gone, because Aaron had allowed them, it says, to cast off restraint, or to break loose, or to run wild. Now, the first word, kazon, translated vision in the King James, this was a special thing for the children of Israel.

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    And it's hard for us to understand it a little bit today, because we live in a different era of scriptural revelation. But imagine that you lived in Israel at this time, in ancient Israel, and you relied, if you were a faithful person, if you believed in Yahweh, then you relied on his word.

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    It was your spiritual sustenance, but it only came, in many cases, from the mouth of prophets. You, of course, would have the law. Not that many people would have their own copy of the law. Memorization was very important. And you relied on knowing what God's will was, from the mouth of a prophet.

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    And so, when the prophet's mouth dried up, that was a problem. Imagine being in the nation of Israel, at a time like that, like 1 Samuel chapter 3, and verse 1, where there was no open vision. As if God had turned his face away from you, and he wasn't speaking to you anymore.

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    But you relied upon, the mouth of the prophets. And there's just such a time, at the end of, between the end of the Old Testament, and the beginning of the New, that period of about 400 years, when God stopped speaking, to the nation of Israel. And if you read their literature, in that time, not from the Bible, but books like the Maccabees, and reading from the Talmud, you'll see, the despair that they felt, in that time.

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    And would continue to feel, of course, because most of them, wouldn't accept Jesus, as their Messiah. But in that intervening period, of 400 years, they say, the prophets have stopped speaking, speaking to us. God has turned his face, away from us. And you get this feeling, of despair. And we then, can feel pretty blessed today.

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    We live in a different era, where we have, the revelation of God, right in front of us. In its entirety. And anytime we want, anytime we need it, we can open it up, and there it is. It wasn't true, in that sense, in this time, in the nation of Israel. And when there was, no open vision, no word from the prophet, that was a problem.

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    And the people would tend, to cast off restraint, to lose any discipline, that they had gained, from the laws of Yahweh. And so, today, what does that mean for us? Because this idea, of the word of God, or a special revelation, for us today, must take on meaning as well. They learned from God, from the mouth of the prophets, but we, have his word before us.

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    And so, in a sense, the more universal application, of this verse, is where there is no word of God. The people cast off restraint, there is no discipline. Or perhaps, put another way, there can be no morality, without God.

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    In the young people's classes, this week, we're tackling a lot, of different challenges, that have come from, atheists, especially the new atheists, in the world today. And in tomorrow's class, we're going to be talking, about morality. And one of the things, we're going to discuss, is the fact that, if you don't believe in God, there is no intellectual, foundation for morality.

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    Now, many new atheists, in the world today, would disagree with that. And in fact, one of the atheist campaigns, goes just like this, good without God. And they'll list, various famous atheists, who have done, what seem to be good works, and they'll say, so and so is good without God.

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    But the fact of the matter, is that if you don't believe, in a higher power, if you don't believe, in a deity, then there's no, intellectual foundation, for good, or for evil. And further to that, as we'll see tomorrow, the very fact, that human beings, are even capable, of having a morality, of grasping the difference, between right and wrong, points in only one direction.

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    And that's to God. But that's not our subject, right now. That will be our subject, with the young people, tomorrow. So let me ask you a question. We've mentioned, in the adult classes, a number of times now, the way that the nation of Israel, seemed to operate, throughout its history, its ancient history, in the Old Testament.

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    How they would sometimes, turn to God, but it would often, only last for a generation, before they turned away again. And there would be, peaks and valleys, but sometimes the valleys, seemed to last, a lot longer, than the peaks. But the interesting thing was, it would seem that, when things were going, really well, when God blessed the nation, that's when, slowly but surely, they'd start to turn away, from him.

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    And then, when God cursed them, that's when they'd start, to turn back, or something dramatic, would happen, or a new righteous king, would arise, in the kingdom of Judah, and they would turn back, to God. When things were good, they turned away. When things were bad, they turned back, to God. And if we think, about our own lives, perhaps, that can be said, for many of us as well.

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    When we live in luxury, when there's no fear, or danger, it's easy to become, apathetic. But when things get bad, that's when we turn to God.

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    Now my question is, why is that? Why do we work that way? Shouldn't the opposite, be true? Isn't it logical, that it should work, the other way around? That when God blesses us, we should be more thankful, and more zealous, for his word? Seems that it should be, that way. And yet, that doesn't seem to be, the way that human nature works.

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    Now in 1943, a man named, Abraham Maslow, published an article, it was called, A Theory of Human Motivation. And he published it, in a publication called, The Psychological Review. And it would come to be known as, and some of you have probably, heard about this, or learned about this, Maslow's Hierarchy of Numerous, and Needs.

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    And it looks, something like this, maybe familiar to some of you. And it explained, how human beings work, how we're built, from the bottom up. And this is how it works. At the bottom, at the base, of each of us, are our core needs, our physiological needs. These are things like, air, food, water, clothing, shelter.

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    That's what we're built upon. Next, after that, in terms of priority, at the bottom, are the biggest priorities for us. Then we're worried about our safety. If we meet all of those, initial needs, all of our physiological needs, that we, those things that we need to survive, then we start to worry about our safety.

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    And for us today, that can take many different forms. It can be our own personal safety, it can be our financial safety, it can be the safety of our loved ones. Once you meet those bottom two pillars, of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, then you can start to focus on the ones, that are a little bit higher up.

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    Things like, the human need for love, or a feeling of belonging. And after that, perhaps, our esteem, or our ego. And it's only once, we meet all of these needs, said Abraham Maslow, that we can start to reach the point, of what he put at the top, of the pyramid, self-actualization. Where he said, this is when you're growing, as a human being, becoming whoever it is, you feel you should be.

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    The point of self-actualization. Now since 1943, this has become sort of a pillar, of our understanding, of how human beings work. But it's also been criticized, in a number of ways. For example, people say, well he didn't really get it right, because the order is not always, the same for everyone. For example, if you took this, particular chart, to a different part of the world, because we live in a, capitalist society here.

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    If you were to take it, to a communist country, for example, you might not have, self-actualization, at the top. It might be the good, of the community. Because the culture, operates differently. And this chart, might look different for you, at different ages too. For example, children, tend to value love, and belonging, very, very highly.

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    But once they become teenagers, that becomes less of a priority, and esteem, becomes very, very important. And perhaps that moves, lower down, on the pyramid for them.

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    And while this may look different, for different people, the core idea, is the same. If you can't breathe, you're probably not thinking, about your self-esteem, or even love. Because instinct, kicks in. That's true, to a lesser degree, but still true, with water, once you desperately need it, and true, even to a lesser degree, with food, or clothing, or shelter.

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    When you don't have, those basic things, that becomes, what consumes you. And everything else, higher on the list, stops being a priority, until you can fulfill, those basic needs. And then, once those basic needs, are met, safety becomes, very important. And this tends to be true, for everyone too. From a personal perspective, or a financial perspective, or a family perspective.

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    And if we don't feel safe, or we don't feel our family is safe, then none of the rest of that matters either. And this week, with the sons of Korah, we've been talking about tragedy, and how God uses it, as a tool to change us. And while we might think of it as a curse, quite often we don't realize the gifts, that God gives us, through it.

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    Because when tragedy comes along, and all of a sudden, our safety is gone, we can no longer be assured of it, this is what happens.

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    The rest of the pyramid, comes crashing down. And the sad truth is, that for many of us, God exists, right up at the top, in that part, that Abraham Maslow called, self-actualization.

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    And if our love, or our loved ones, seem to go away, or our ego is challenged, or our safety, is taken away from us, God disappears. This is what tragedy, will do to us, when our safety is gone, and we can no longer be sure, that we're safe. Or sometimes, perhaps, all that's left, are our physiological needs.

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    We don't even know, where our next meal, is coming from. Our son Jack, was a month old, turned a month old, on Sunday. And, in the moment, when he was born, he gave out, two very weak cries, and he went silent.

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    He wasn't breathing. Later on, not that much later on, but it seemed like, much later on, we'd find out, that one of his lungs, was completely full of fluid. And the pediatrician, whisked him away, to the other side of the room.

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    And a team of four people, started to try to, suck the fluid, out of his lungs. And nurses and doctors, started to fill the room.

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    I knew he wasn't breathing. And every second, felt like a minute. And every minute, felt like an hour. And there was nothing, that I could do.

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    Except pray. And I think, that probably, before that, I thought, that I knew, what it meant, to pray for something. But I was wrong.

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    And I learned, what it really meant. to pray for something. And fortunately, only a few minutes went by. But the initial prognosis, was grim.

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    And messages, started pouring in. And they all said, we're praying for you. And he was on 100% oxygen, at that time. And as the messages poured in, we watched.

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    And by the next morning, he was breathing, breathing perfectly. This is what God does, with tragedy. He was on 100%, sometimes he brings us, to the point, where there is, nothing we can do, except to rely on him. And perhaps he knows, that we've gone too high up, in this pyramid, when we put him, wherever we put him, in our lives.

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    Because when tragedy happens, we realize where he belongs. that he's the foundation. Our air, our food, our water, our clothing, our shelter, all of it depends on him.

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    And then he rebuilds us from the ground up. But now he's at the base. And that's what tragedy does. It makes us realize our position in relation to God. And perhaps where he needed to be in our life.

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    Turn with me to Psalm 18. I think David perhaps knew this better than most. In the early part of his life there were many, many times where he didn't know where his salvation was going to come from.

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    And he had to rely entirely on God. Psalm 18 starting in verse 1 he writes I will love thee, O Lord, my strength. The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer. My God, my strength in whom I will trust, my buckler and the horn of my salvation and my high tower.

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    I will call upon the Lord who is worthy to be praised. So shall I be saved from mine enemies. The sorrows of death compassed me. And the floods of ungodly men made me afraid. The sorrows of hell compassed me about. The snares of death prevented me. In my distress I called upon the Lord and cried unto my God.

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    He heard my voice out of his temple and my cry came before him even unto his ears. Do you realize all the things that David is listing in verse 2? These were the things that saved his life on different occasions. His buckler, the horn of his salvation, a high tower, his rock, and other places his shield that would stop the arrows of his enemies, the rock where he took refuge or where he hid.

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    These were the things that saved his life but when David looked at those things he didn't see things, he saw God. Because God would make him experience this kind of thing over and over again.

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    And he would be known as the man after God's own heart. So let me change direction a little bit and ask you another question. What does God look like? And I mean physically, what does he look like? Have you ever thought about it? Do we know? Do you know what God looks like?

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    And many early Christian depictions of God, paintings like the creation of Adam by Michelangelo, for example, depict God as an old man with a long white beard. Is that what God looks like? Perhaps people thought that was what he looked like because God said, let us make man in our image. But we know the word God.

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    There is Elohim. I would suggest that's probably not in the indication of what God looks like. If you search the scriptures, can you tell me physically, what does he look like? Does he have a face because it says no man can look on the face of God and live? Or is that metaphorical language?

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    Does he have hinder parts because Moses looked upon his hinder parts? Or once again, was that metaphorical? Do you have a hand or an arm? To have an outstretched arm or an open hand, which is written about God? Or once again, are those metaphors to help us to understand God from our limited perspective?

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    Someone who we can only begin to comprehend. And if you look at other civilizations besides Israel and the things that they worship, they worship things that were within their own frame of reference. They worship nature. They worship the animals or the sun and the moon and the stars because these were things they could see, things they were familiar with.

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    But I don't have an answer for you. I don't know what God looks like because from a physical perspective, when we look in the scripture, that detail remains strangely absent. Perhaps the thing that I think about more than anything else is, does God have a physical presence or a body where he dwells at any one place so that he moves around?

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    Or is he everywhere at once? And I don't have an answer for that either. And I find it's interesting that we don't know that scripture does not tell us. Because you remember the story when the prophet Samuel was looking for the next king of Israel and God directs him to the house of Jesse.

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    And he looks at all the sons of Jesse and he looks at the oldest and he says, surely this is the next king of Israel and must have been a good looking young man, strong and tall. But do you remember what God said to him? First Samuel chapter 16 and verse 7. The Lord sees not as man sees.

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    Man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart. And that has been and continues to be comforting to us, does it not? It doesn't matter what we look like. It doesn't matter our gender or our skin color. God only cares about what's in our heart.

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    And so it's so interesting that God doesn't tell us what he looks like. He tells us what's in his heart. Now turn with me to Psalm 85, which we looked at. It was the subject of our class this morning, a Psalm of the Sons of Korah.

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    God has told us in many ways what the kingdom will be like, but we know as well that we will be changed and that there are many things that in our current form we cannot comprehend. And yet the psalmist in Psalm 85, this son of Korah, in the most eloquent language that he can muster, describes what surely must be a picture of the kingdom age from human terms.

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    Verse 10 of Psalm 85, mercy and truth are met together. Righteousness and peace have kissed each other. Or as the ESV says for verse 10, a steadfast love and faithfulness have met together. Remember the picture from this morning?

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    It's as if the faithfulness of the believers in that day will meet the steadfast love of God and the justice that only he can provide will meet the peace that's the result of that justice. And then verse 11, truth or faithfulness, as the word means, shall spring out of the earth and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

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    Truth or faithfulness coming from the earth, from the believers, righteousness from God looking down from heaven. As if in that day the faithful will stretch their arms up to God, but their arms will not span the distance and God will look down in love and outstretch his arm to them in righteousness from heaven.

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    The psalmist writing about the kingdom age in some of the most eloquent language that he can muster. 1 Corinthians chapter 2, verses 9 to 11. Just as it is written, things that no eye has seen or ear heard or mind imagined are the things that God has prepared for those who love him.

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    God has revealed these to us by the Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the things of a man except the man's spirit within him? So too no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. And that word knows literally means, as it's translated in the ESV, comprehends.

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    Nobody comprehends the things of God except the Spirit of God. And while many things have been revealed to us, our capacity to fully understand what it will be like in the kingdom age has not yet been given to us. And what a wonderful thing that is to contemplate.

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    The Apostle Paul once again, and we're looking at Corinthians here, which was remarkable for a certain reason, which we'll talk about. 2 Corinthians 3, verses 12 to 18.

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    Therefore, since we have such a hope, we behave with great boldness, and not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from staring at the result of the glory that was made ineffective, but their minds were closed. For to this very day, the same veil remains when they hear the Old Covenant read.

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    It's not been removed because only in Christ is it taken away. But until this very day, whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their minds. But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. And this whole analogy of Moses is now leading up to what he's about to talk about.

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    Next, when Moses shone, his face shone with the glory of God, such that he had to put a veil over it so that that glory was diluted when the Israelites looked upon him. He says, that's what this is like. Verse 17, Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is present, there is freedom.

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    And we all, with unveiled faces, reflecting the glory of the Lord, are being transformed from one degree of glory to another, which is the Lord, who is the Spirit. And that word, in verse 18, I've just read to you from the Net Bible translation. In the Net Bible, it's reflecting. In the Greek, it's katob tridzomahi, which means literally, a mirror, which is such an apt description of God's manifestation.

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    Our faces like mirrors reflecting the glory of God, being transformed. And many of us know what that word transformed is in the Greek as well, metamorpho, the English metamorphosis. the caterpillar, changing form into something that was unimaginable when you looked at its previous form.

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    And in another place, in Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, 1 Corinthians chapter 13, starting at verse 8, reading from the ESV, love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away. As for tongues, they will cease. As for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

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    When I was a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. And the analogy that Paul is using here is this. This is what it will be like the difference between now and the kingdom age. The way we thought when we were little children compared to the way we think when we were adults.

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    The way we think now as adults is like the way little children think compared to what we will be and the way we will be able to think in the kingdom age. Verse 12, 1 Corinthians 13, For now we see in a mirror dimly, or as the King James says, in a glass darkly, but then face to face.

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    Now I know in part, then I can know fully, even as I have been fully known. And there's the word mirror again. Now it's a different Greek word this time than we just looked at. In this case, it's the word esotron. It's another word for mirror. And it's interesting that these two times the Apostle Paul uses specifically to the Corinthians the analogy of a mirror.

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    Because Paul said, I will be all things to all men. And he knew his audience. And Corinth had a light industry where they manufactured highly prized bronze works. That was one of the things they were known for. And one of the things they were known for manufacturing were mirrors. But mirrors that were made in these days are not like mirrors that we have today because they were not made out of glass.

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    They were instead made out of highly polished metal. which made them far, far less accurate than the mirrors we have today. Have you ever looked at your reflection in the side of a car that's just been washed? And you can see your image and your likeness there but it's distorted in different directions.

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    You have a vague idea of what it looks like but it's not fully clear to you. That's the analogy that he's using. Right now it's like we're looking into a polished piece of metal but in the kingdom age everything will be crystal clear as if face to face. Now he says I know only partially then I will know fully even as I have been fully known.

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    God knows fully now. He sees completely clearly now. But that's what we still have to look forward to. We don't know what God looks like. We only have a vague idea of what he is but we know well what his characteristics are. He told us what he wanted us to know. And we looked at this passage this morning we'll look at it again now Exodus chapter 34 when he revealed those characteristics to Moses.

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    And you'll remember them well. Exodus chapter 34 starting at verse 6. The Lord passed by before Moses and proclaimed the Lord, the Lord God merciful and gracious long-suffering and abundant and goodness and truth keeping mercy for thousands forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin and that will by no means clear the guilty visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and upon the children's children unto the third and to the fourth generation.

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    And those of you in the adult class will remember from this morning that while the word generation is implied at the end of the verse and the translators got it there they missed it at the beginning of the verse. At the end of the verse it says to the third and to the fourth full stop in the Hebrew but the translators realized the word generation was implied and so it's implied at the beginning keeping mercy for thousands of generations or to the thousandth generation and the point is such does God's capacity for grace and mercy outweigh his willingness to punish.

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    These are the characteristics of God full of mercy and grace patient abundant in goodness and truth but he will by no means tolerate evil. and there was one verse that we left unread in the last passage in Corinthians 1 Corinthians 13 it was the last verse of the chapter now abideth faith hope and love but the greatest of these is love because in the kingdom age our hope will have been realized and so there will be no more need for faith it will be right before our faces and the only thing that will remain is love and here is the reading that we had read as our opening reading see what kind of love 1 John 3 verses 1 to 3 see what kind of love the father has given to us that we should be called the children of God and so we are the reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him beloved we are God's children now and what we will be has not yet appeared but we know that when it appears we shall be like him because we shall see him as he is and everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure and as we have talked about tragedy all this week and we have considered how the family of the sons of Korah was shaped by it for over a thousand years we realize that tragedy is just another tool in God's arsenal that he uses to make us look more like him to turn us into mirrors reflecting his glory as a mirror reflecting the sun

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    so that one day the earth will be filled with people that look like him and thus it will be filled with his glory and I'm thankful that we cannot fully comprehend what that day will be like because there's nothing in this life that I can imagine wanting to do forever but the promise is it will be so much better than anything we can imagine or that we can comprehend in our current form and what a wonderful promise that is and so I'll leave you with my favorite biblical passage Romans chapter 8 verses 35 to 39 who will separate us from the love of Christ will trouble or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword as it is written for your sake we encounter death all day long we were considered as sheep to be slaughtered no in all these things we have complete victory through him who loved us for I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things that are present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor thank you for listening to the good Christodalphian talks podcast please subscribe for new episodes and leave a review on apple podcasts or whichever service you are listening from to help people find the show when they search for it if you enjoyed this talk share it on social media so other people can find it too for show notes and links to the talk that you just listened to visit our show page at anchor.fm slash gct we want to encourage everyone to share their thoughts from the talk this week on facebook

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    and talk to you next week